What's Wright - Chiefs dynasty OVER? Kelce & Mahomes WASHED? Jerry Jones calls Cowboys SOAP OPERA

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd Episode Title: What's Wright - Chiefs Dynasty OVER? Kelce & Mahomes WASHED? Jerry Jones Calls Cowboys SOAP OPERA
Release Date: August 14, 2025
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
Description: The Herd with Colin Cowherd delves into the most pressing sports stories of the day with a blend of opinionated analysis and insightful commentary. In this episode, the focus is on the potential end of the Kansas City Chiefs' dynasty, the future of key players like Travis Kelce and Patrick Mahomes, and Jerry Jones' candid remarks about the Dallas Cowboys.

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1. Introduction to Chiefs' Dynasty Status

Noah opens the episode by expressing his excitement for the upcoming football season while addressing recent news that has dampened the initial enthusiasm.

• Key Discussion Points:

  • James Cook's Contract Controversy: Reports initially stated Cook secured a deal with $30 million guaranteed, later corrected to an additional $10 million. Noah criticizes the agents for misleading information.
  • Joe Burrow's Injury: Burrow being knocked down has stirred tensions at the Bengals' camp, leading to tempers flaring.

• Notable Quote:

  Noah [02:08]: "A major story in sports media today is Joe Burrow got knocked down. Like, that's where we're at in the camp calendar..."

2. The Cowboys' "Soap Opera"

The conversation shifts to Jerry Jones' recent comments labeling the Cowboys as a "soap opera," emphasizing his commitment to keeping the team in the spotlight through controversy.

• Key Discussion Points:

  • Jerry Jones' Strategy: Jones aims to maintain constant media attention, viewing controversy as beneficial.
  • Contract Negotiations with Micah Parsons: Noah criticizes Jones for refusing to communicate directly with Parsons' agent, suggesting it’s a power play rather than a strategic move.

• Notable Quotes:

  Devon [07:31]: "Winning is not a priority to our guard, Mr. Jones."

  Noah [07:49]: "There is no justification or explanation for Jerry not talking to Micah's agent."

3. Assessing the Chiefs' Dynasty

Noah tackles the debate over whether the Chiefs' dynasty is waning, countering naysayers with a deep dive into the team's consistent performance.

• Key Discussion Points:

  • Championship Consistency: Highlighting the Chiefs' appearances in three straight Super Bowls and seven consecutive AFC Championship games.
  • Comparison to Other Dynasties: Noah references the Steelers and Patriots to argue that declaring the Chiefs' dynasty over is premature.

• Notable Quotes:

  Noah [20:32]: "If your take is they're just not good enough anymore, it's a bold take. Maybe there's no evidence for it but if it's just your gut feeling, then so be it."

  Noah [27:17]: "It's just fundamentally ridiculous to say I'm declaring it dead when the Chiefs are in the midst of the greatest three-year stretch in the history of the league."

4. The Buffalo Bills and Josh Allen's Impact

The focus shifts to the Buffalo Bills, examining Josh Allen's performance and the team's prospects for maintaining their competitive edge.

• Key Discussion Points:

  • Josh Allen's Performance: Analysis of Allen's impact on the Bills' success and his role in the team's continuity.
  • Contract and Team Dynamics: Discussion on James Cook's contract and its implications for the Bills' future.

• Notable Quotes:

  Noah [34:00]: "I think Josh is good enough. Even if I wouldn't have necessarily given James Cook multi-year guarantees."

5. Broader NFL Dynasty Comparisons

Noah provides a comprehensive look at what constitutes a dynasty in the NFL, comparing various teams across different eras.

• Key Discussion Points:

  • Definition of a Dynasty: At least three championships within a recognizable timeframe.
  • Historical Comparisons: Patriots, Steelers, Dolphins, Cowboys, and others are evaluated based on their championship records and periods of dominance.

• Notable Quotes:

  Noah [35:09]: "The Patriots went a decade without winning a Super Bowl. The Chiefs have gone 16 months. It's just fundamentally ridiculous to say I'm declaring it dead."

6. The Lions’ Challenges Under Dan Campbell

A segment is dedicated to the Detroit Lions, analyzing head coach Dan Campbell's performance and the team's prospects amidst potential coordinator losses and defensive issues.

• Key Discussion Points:

  • Dan Campbell's Leadership: Setting a competitive culture and his impact on the team's motivation.
  • Offensive Line Concerns: Evaluating the offensive line's performance and its effect on quarterback play.
  • Schedule Difficulty: The Lions' challenging schedule and its potential impact on their season performance.

• Notable Quotes:

  Noah [64:31]: "I think setting a culture and motivation and the things we know Dan Campbell's great at are hugely important to turning a team around."

7. NBA Team Valuations: The Trailblazers’ Sale

Noah touches upon the recent sale of the Portland Trailblazers, discussing its implications for NBA team valuations and the league's expansion plans.

• Key Discussion Points:

  • Trailblazers’ Valuation: Set at over $4 billion, indicating the generic NBA team valuation.
  • League Expansion: Adam Silver's intentions to possibly hold off on expanding the league, affecting team valuations.
  • Comparison with Other Teams: Celtics sold for $6 billion and Lakers for $10 billion, positioning the Trailblazers within the valuation spectrum.

• Notable Quotes:

  Noah [56:37]: "The generic NBA team now costs $5 billion. Because the Trailblazers, because of market size, are a below-average value NBA team..."

8. Closing Remarks and Future Predictions

In the concluding segments, Noah and Devin recap their discussions, reaffirm their support for the Chiefs, and hint at future analyses and predictions for the upcoming season.

• Key Discussion Points:

  • Chiefs’ Future Prospects: Despite some naysayers, the Chiefs are positioned strongly for continued success.
  • Dynasty Sustainability: The importance of maintaining key players and adapting strategies to sustain a dynasty.
  • Upcoming Predictions: Insights into potential Super Bowl contenders and the dynamics of other teams like the Ravens and Giants.

• Notable Quotes:

  Noah [72:04]: "We will be back a week from Tuesday on this show with our gambling shows next week, Tuesday and Thursday."

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Conclusion

In this episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd, Noah and his co-host Devin engage in a thorough analysis of the current state of NFL dynasties, with a particular focus on the Kansas City Chiefs and the Dallas Cowboys. They dissect Jerry Jones' controversial management style, evaluate the Chiefs' continued dominance, and explore the future trajectories of other key teams like the Buffalo Bills and Detroit Lions. Additionally, a brief foray into NBA team valuations provides a broader sports context. Throughout the episode, the hosts blend factual analysis with spirited debate, providing listeners with a comprehensive overview of the NFL landscape as the 2025 season approaches.

Key Takeaways:

• Chiefs' Dynasty Status: Strong arguments against the notion that the Chiefs' dynasty is over, backed by their consistent performance and championship appearances.
• Cowboys' Media Strategy: Jerry Jones employs controversy as a means to keep the Cowboys in the public eye, raising questions about its long-term impact on team performance.
• Buffalo Bills' Prospects: Josh Allen continues to be a pivotal figure for the Bills, with the team's future looking promising if current trends persist.
• Lions' Challenges: Despite Dan Campbell's leadership, the Lions face significant hurdles that could impact their playoff chances.
• NBA Valuations: The sale of the Trailblazers provides insight into the evolving valuations of NBA franchises and the potential slowdown in league expansion.

Notable Quotes:

• Noah: "It's just fundamentally ridiculous to say I'm declaring it dead when the Chiefs are in the midst of the greatest three-year stretch in the history of the league." [20:32]
• Noah: "There is no justification or explanation for Jerry not talking to Micah's agent." [07:49]
• Noah: "Setting a culture and motivation and the things we know Dan Campbell's great at are hugely important to turning a team around." [64:31]

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Transcript

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Welcome in episode 358, what's right with Nick Wright in this episode, as always, brought to you by our friends at Boost Mobile. So here's the deal. I'm just gonna be totally transparent with the audience. I am so ready for actual football season. We've been saying the last few weeks it's football season because we have turned our attention to football. The problem is there's no news like the news we get is this we hear. Oh, my God. And I think it's in the show somewhere, but I'll discuss it for a moment. Anyway, James Cook, 30 million guaranteed with the agents credited in the first paragraph of ESPN.com story. And then of course, a day later it's like, well, actually it's really 15 million guaranteed. And he already had 5 million guaranteed. So it's really just 10 million extra guaranteed. But way to get those agents that pub. Like, that's not real, I guess. He's back in camp. That's the news. The. A major story in sports media today is Joe Burrow got knocked down. Like, that's where we're at in the camp calendar, which is why we take vacation next week. And then we come back full fledged. First things first, prediction week on this show. Back to back preseason gambling extravaganzas. So all of that is coming in short order, but today does feel a little bit like the, you know, 17th lap in the 15,000 meters. Like, man, we, the it. We're. We're trudging through. So I understand. I maybe shouldn't say that to the audience. Maybe you're turning off the podcast. Please don't do that. Like rate, subscribe, review, do all those things. I'm just being honest with you guys, which is why I was so thrilled that yesterday we got actual news in the what's right universe, which is Damanze. Would you like to share with the audience what happened yesterday?

[Devin]

Yeah, those snakes finally popped out yesterday. What was today? Day 50, 55 or 56. Got home, saw some little heads, did the routine check, saw some heads pop out.

[Noah]

I mean, look at this picture.

[Devin]

Yeah, they're looking, I mean, like a little blanket.

[Noah]

But it's. It's really unbelievable. I. So let me. Can I. All right, sorry. I'm going to put you on front street a bit here. Did you cry?

[Devin]

I did. I think something's wrong with me.

[Noah]

What, you think something? Because you told me you thought you would. Years ago when you. When Demonte started this journey of teaching himself how to breed exotic snakes, he said he was like, I'm going to be honest with you, he's like, if it ever happens. And they actually, there's actually one that they mate and they get pregnant and there's eggs and they're born. He's like, I think I'll cry. And so I was, I. It was, I was super excited.

[Devin]

Yeah, no tears came out, but. But, yeah, I mean, I think I always just start screaming. I think it's like my default.

[Noah]

Oh, so you, you yelled.

[Devin]

Yeah, yeah, I definitely let on.

[Noah]

That's awesome.

[Devin]

Yeah, 100%. All right.

[Noah]

Love it, love it. And I Also love that we have locked in a week from today your youngest sister coming traveling on her own cross country to come visit you and she'll get to see all these baby snakes.

[Devin]

It's just the timing on everything's insane and perfect. 100%. Yeah.

[Noah]

So that's great. So that's honestly the most exciting thing. I'll be totally transparent. My most exciting part of this podcast just happened. But we'll try to entertain all the same. Straight to voicemail. Brought to you by our friends at Boost Mobile. Like I said, tempers flare at Bengals camp cause Joe Burrow got knocked down. Chris Zaps Porzingis wants to pursue an MMA career. I would. He would be one of my last picks of active NBA players that I think would actually succeed in that I understand he has reached but it seems like a huge injury risk and be a guy that you could get on the ground broken. Yeah, I just. He would not like Anthony Edwards high on my MMA fighting list. Yeah, Joker, I think maybe would be pretty good. I feel like Joker can take a punch. Tough guy. Lean on you. Chris Staps not. I'd even put Wimby ahead of him because I feel like Wimby, you know, is as with his embrace of the Far east, like maybe has learned some martial arts or something. I don't know. Like I. Chris Far East, I love it. He has embrace of the Far East. Yeah. And Taylor Swift appeared on new heights in what'll probably go down as the, you know, most viewed listened to podcasts in the history of podcasts. All right, once again, reminder like rate, subscribe, review. And. And because it's our last day before vacation, let's just talk cowboys.

[Devin]

Oh my goodness. So winning is not a priority to our guard, Mr. Jones. And that's Jerry Jones. He called his cowboys a year round soap opera and said if we're not being looked at, then I'll do my part to get us looked at. He also called controversy a good thing. What's going on over there in Dallas?

[Noah]

Well, so. And he yesterday said he may or may not talk with Micah, with Micah's agent. Pardon me. And then he's like, he's under contract. So we're gonna, we're gonna try to hit 10 topics today. I'm gonna try to do them fast. I just want to hone in on this one point here. There is no justification or explanation for Mike for Jerry not talking to Micah's agent. None. We can argue about a lot of this. We can argue about whether or not it's smart for the Cowboys to pay Micah, I don't think that's a huge argument. But if someone was like, you know what? They already have the most expensive quarterback, one of the most expensive receivers, they're probably not that close. Their better path is make them play out this year franchise tag in order to trade. Like, if somebody wanted to make that argument, I would listen to it. Okay, I would disagree that I would listen to it. If there are a lot of things that you. There are legitimate opinions on both sides on with this thing. There is not a legitimate opinion that involves agreeing with Jerry Jones decision to never talk to Micah's agent. And if the justification on Jerry's end were, well, there's nothing to talk about because we are not signing Micah to an extension. The problem with that argument is Jerry's claim is we already agreed to an extension months ago. Jerry is not claiming, I don't want to sign Micah. Jerry's claiming, I did want to sign Micah. I had an agreement with Micah. Micah now essentially reneged on it. Even if that is the case, then there is no justification for not calling Micah's agent and saying, hey, here's the offer. And that I think through missed through all of the Jerry Jones nonsense has been the very simple fact that he has not had a conversation with David Mulaguetta, Micah's agent. And that to me is the only possible rationale for that is he wants to exert and show who's in charge and who has the power here. He's trying to hold over them. And here would be my biggest. And then we can move on to other topics. But my biggest concern, if I were a Cowboys fan, that Jerry quote about, basically we want to be in the news 365 days a year. You know, we're a soap opera. It's my job to drum up interest. Say what you want about Jerry, he is a brilliant marketer. That part is undeniable. And if Jerry is looking down the horizon, it might occur to him that if they sign Micah, there's no other like football adjacent intrigue, controversy left to satiate the masses next off season. Dak is done and has a no trade. CD is done. If they have, if they sign Micah and they go eight and nine, what is the Cowboys news that keeps them in the lead block of shows during the dog days of summer? There's not another train coming down those tracks. And so if Jerry is being earnest that his real goal is to keep the Cowboys front page, the easiest strategy there is, dare Micah to play out this season franchise, tag him next offseason and run this entire storyline back. I I don't think think that is the likely outcome, but I also think at this point it would be dumb to dismiss it as a possibility because the fact that we have gotten here is a testament to the fact that Jerry is not leading with smart football team management. He is leading with generating buzz. And you sign Micah, it's hard to generate if you sign Micah and you're just average next year, where where does the next buzz come from? Dax done. Micah's done. CDs done. Micah will be de facto untradable the first year after signing a contract because of what the signing bonus will be. Dak is literally untradable. They there's not a lot of paths and you just hired a brand new head coach. Like not going to fire a coach after year one. Like what is the sizzle that the Cowboys can create other than just being awesome football and awesome football team And I don't think that's likely. UFC 319 is blowing back to the Windy City. I bet Collins going to be there for the first time in six years. 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[Noah]

All right, Damanze, let's go to the chief.

[Devin]

We used an Italian accent for that man. He's South African.

[Noah]

I. Well, okay, well, I didn't mean to use an Italian accent, but I believe the name is. I was trying to do French. Actually, I believe the name is French. I duplessly. I wasn't trying to do Italian. I don't do accents, but I would. I'm guessing, even though he's South African, that that is a French name. Du Plessis strikes me as. No, listen, the.

[Devin]

I was not going to say anything about it.

[Noah]

Yeah, I mean, I. I listen, that's a production error, and that's also a rotten Burgundy style error by you. Just because it's written in the doc doesn't mean you got to read it like you got to. Every once in a while, I've got.

[Devin]

To have some discretion.

[Noah]

Yeah, you're allowed Some discretion here. All right, go ahead.

[Devin]

And you read downplayed all the naysayers saying that the Kansas City window is closing for the dynasty. Colin was also one of those naysayers saying that the winning is over. Do you think that the win. Do you think that the dynasty is continuable if they win the super bowl this year?

[Noah]

Well, hold on. I don't even think that's. Obviously, if they win the super bowl this year, the dynasty is in. In progress. I want to focus more on. Listen, I think it's well established how much I adore and love Colin Cowherd, his Chiefs takes. Now, I mostly blame J. Mac. I think that like the proximity to J. Mac's historically bad Chiefs takes have somehow there's been an osmosis of take that has impacted Colin. But they've been to three straight Super Bowls. They, they had the best record in the NFL last year.

[Devin]

They got to go to the last one, right? They gotta say they made it to the last Super Bowl. Like, I think they have to at least not make a Super bowl for the dynasty to be over.

[Noah]

Well, I would think so, right? Yeah, I. And by the way, like, when we talk about dynynasties in the NFL, the Pittsburgh Steelers is probably the most famous one. They won two Super Bowls. They then went two years without making the Super. Forget without winning it, without making the super bowl. And then they won two more. We look at that as one dynasty. The. The Patriots is an interesting one. I don't consider the Pats one continuous dynasty. But if you do, it went like this. Won a Super bowl, missed the playoffs, then won two Super Bowls, then, gosh, I'm gonna have to do this off the top of my head. Oh, six. Going for the three peat. Lost their first playoff game. I'm sorry, wait. Oh, five, going for the three peat. It's going to be hard to do off top my head, but I'm going to try. Lost their first playoff game. Oh, six. Lost in round two. 07, lost the Super Bowl. Oh, eight, missed the playoffs. 0, 9, 0 and 2010. Lost before the Super Bowl. 2011. Lost in the Super Bowl. 2012, 2013, lost before the Super Bowl. 14, won the Super Bowl. 15, lost in conference title game. 16. Won the Super Bowl. 17, lost the Super Bowl. 18, won the Super Bowl. 19, lost in round one. So if we want to do that as one long dynasty, then it's going to be impossible to say the Chiefs dynasty is over. If you consider the Patriots one long dynasty. The Patriots went a decade without winning a Super Bowl. The chiefs have gone 16 months. And so that part's just ridiculous. It's just, it's just fundamentally ridiculous to say I'm declaring it dead. When the Chiefs are in the midst of or just completed I guess you would say the greatest three year stretch in the history of the league and they have been to three consecutive Super Bowls and seven straight AFC championship games. It's now if you if your take is they're just not good enough anymore. It's a bold take. Maybe like I there's no evidence for it but if it's just your gut feeling, then so be it. Here is, here is what I find the most demand ridiculous about this chief's fatalism stuff and then we can move on every team in the AFC that is chasing them if this year they have the exact season Kansas City had last year, best record in last undefeated team, best record in the NFL, beat the Chiefs in the AFC playoffs, make the super bowl, lose the super bowl, it will be considered evidence that that team is getting closer and the best season any of those teams have had in this era. The Chiefs having that year is considered evidence of implosion. But I am here to tell you if the Baltimore Ravens are the final on or the Buffalo Bills or the Cincinnati Bengals or the Los Angeles Chargers or God forbid the Denver Broncos or any of those teams if they are the last undefeated team if they are 15 and one with the one seed locked up they then beat the Chiefs in the playoffs and then run into I don't care who call it Philly or no because Philly then would go back to back. That complicates things. Call it the Lions and get blown out in the super bowl. If that were to happen and then I were to go on TV and be like that's this year was the end of that team. They're done. Now they time for a new chapter. People would say that dude you're just a hater. And this is also an element of my a lot of my Mahomes frustration in and I'm going to talk about this on the TV show today in how he's discussed do you agree to Monze that all Lamar, Josh and Burrow the year they had last year elevated them even if not in their actual ranking but people elevated them their standard and and that people felt their seasons combined with the year Mahomes had narrowed the gap for best quarterback and in some people flipped it. You agree with that, right?

[Devin]

Yeah.

[Noah]

That's like conventional wisdom. Okay. And this is where the point that I make that Mahomes is not judged against his peers. I think is crystallized. Pretend Patrick this year had any of their seasons last year. Okay, let's start with Joe. Patrick puts up insane numbers and the Chiefs miss the playoffs. Does that help? Or does anyone be like, okay, that helped. Like, Patrick's back.

[Devin]

No, dynasty is definitely over.

[Noah]

Okay, so. All right, let's do Lamar's year. Patrick puts up insane numbers. The Chiefs are the, you know, a good but not great seed. They're the three seed. And for the first time in his career, he does not make a conference championship game because he loses in round two to one of the other rival quarterbacks. Does that help or hurt Patrick standing?

[Devin]

That would hurt him.

[Noah]

It would hurt him. All right, Stu. Josh Patrick wins league mvp. Team has a really good record. They get the two seed and then to go back to the super bowl doesn't come through at the end and Josh beats him.

[Devin]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Is anybody then being like, okay, Patrick has reclaimed. Or they're like, oh, mvpb. Damn, Josh beat him. Now do the flip side for any of those guys, all three of them. Damanze give them Patrick's year last year. They have mediocre stats, but lead the league in game winning drives and comebacks. And he beats two of those guys en route. I'm sorry, any of the. Those guys are the one seed and beat Patrick to get to the Super Bowl.

[Devin]

Yeah.

[Noah]

Imagine if I then went on TV and was like, yeah, but his tut there, you know, Lamar's touchdown interception ratio wasn't that impressive. I'm actually dinging him. It's just insane. And so I know I'm the Kansas City guy. I know I have the tattoo that I still don't know how to show on camera. I still don't know what I'm supposed to do here. It's just a disaster. There we go. I see. I don't even know what I'm. There we go.

[Devin]

Greatness, man.

[Noah]

Well, it's just. Here's the thing. It's just boring. It's just boring. And I, I also like just one other thing because what has become very in vogue and Bruce says it a lot and he and I talked about this. Not like dad like to talk about it, but discussed it on the air the other. The other day, which is because it's become very in vogue to say something along the lines of like, oh, Mahomes is doing Brady's career in reverse where Brady in the beginning won but didn't have the stats. And Mahomes and then later in his career had the crazy numbers Mahomes are, but it's just inaccurate. And here's what I mean. Mahomes early and every year of his career, except the last two first five years won and had MVP caliber stats. And the last two years he's won, but he hasn't had the crazy numbers until the playoffs. Right? But this idea that Tom Brady Post 2007 was just year in year out, this statistical monster, it's just not true. So Tom Brady 2007 had what at that point, the greatest quarterback season ever. He then misses 2008 due to injury. 2009, Tom Brady's team was 10 and 6 and he had 28 touchdowns, 13 interceptions and they lost their first playoff game. Then 2010 he had one of the greatest statistical seasons ever. 36 touchdowns, four picks and 2011 he was in line with it. 39 touchdowns, 12 picks. And then 2012 down to a 98 passer rating. And 2013, 25 touchdowns, 11 picks and an 87 rating. That's in 2013. And then he obviously 2014, they win the Super Bowl. 2015, he has an all time 2015, 16, 17 all time stats years where he has a combined, doing the math on the fly, 96 touchdowns, 15 picks, a 108 rating over the course of three years. But then the very next year, 2018, they go 11 and five, he has 29 touchdowns, 11 picks. But they win the Super Bowl 2019, 24 touchdowns, eight picks and 88 rating and leaves the Patriots and then goes on the sick run in Tampa. The point I'm making is this even peak Brady had these season like the season where it's like oh, 29 touchdowns, 11 picks, 24 touchdowns, eight picks, 25 touchdowns, 11 picks. It was not every single year statistical excellence. It was every single year when the division make the playoffs. And it is at the tail end of his Patriots tenure. Every single year make a conference championship game. But it's just, it's. We've got to be honest about what real expectations are and we've got to be honest about what the guys who are allegedly in Patrick's league, if Patrick had the season they just had, and they just had the season Patrick just had, how would we view it? That's all I'm saying. All right, let's talk the Bills Buffalo.

[Devin]

Just extended James Cook. They gave him that top of the market running back money.

[Noah]

So kind of the top of the mark again. It depends on the reporting. But yeah, they, they, he certainly got a deal that appears at least a little better. Than I would have done. Go ahead.

[Devin]

So with limited cap room going forward, if Buffalo cannot get it done this year, do you think that their window is closed for the Super Bowl?

[Noah]

No. Listen, I think if I had to bet, here's a fun exercise. Super Bowl. I don't want to do this right now. I was going to say like divvy up Super Bowls over the next five years.

[Devin]

Between teams.

[Noah]

But yeah, like, like I would say the Chiefs get to. Josh gets one.

[Devin]

Raven's got to be in there at some point.

[Noah]

Baltimore break through. Baltimore get one and then is there, you know, didn't see that one coming. Am I underrating Philly? You know what I mean? But I don't want to actually do that exercise. Like, I'd have to think more about.

[Devin]

Billy were to repeat this year. How would that.

[Noah]

If Philly were to repeat, that's all, then we get into a whole different ball game.

[Devin]

Everybody's got a dynasty.

[Noah]

Well, back to back by itself's not a dynasty, but when you add to it, they did make the super. What? They did make the super bowl two years prior.

[Devin]

Right.

[Noah]

You know what I mean? I think you've got to have three in the NFL. Typically you've got to have at least three championships. So, like the people don't consider the Dolphins of the 70s a full blown dynasty. Dolphins lost a Super bowl, then won a Super Bowl. Won a Super Bowl. That's, you know, so the. How did I rank the dynasties? I think I did this once. Let me see if I can find it. Find it. Dynasty tears. Do I have that somewhere?

[Devin]

Some Google Docs sitting somewhere?

[Noah]

Yeah, that's what I'm looking at. I'm trying to look for it on hold. Hold on. Dynasty. No, I don't have it. I did do it at some point. Daniel thinks he can find it. That would be great. But the dynasties that are undeniable are either one or two. For the Patriots, either way, they have three championships. If you want to go 01 to 18 with six titles with a gap in the middle or 01, 04 and then 14, 18. Either way, that's a dynasty. The Niners in the 80s, from 80 to 88 or in the 80s, I should say they won four Super Bowls. The Cowboys in the 90s winning three and four years, obviously. The Steelers in the 70s, those are the only official real, in my opinion, dynasties. The other ones that are close, the Broncos who went back to back in 97, 98. The packers who went back to back to start the NFL. Now the packers would be Higher up. If we're doing pre super bowl era because they won championships there. The Dolphins as I mentioned, who lost the super bowl, then won back to back Super Bowls, like those are the ones that are closer. So the Eagles, if they were to win this year, would be in that tier with the Dolphins of the 70s, the Broncos of the 90s, the Cowboys of the 70s, those teams, the Raiders from mid 70s to early 80s, but they wouldn't in my opinion be a full BL. But they would then have demons, a wide open window to get that third one and to be considered, you know what I mean? If they win this year and then three years later they win another one, then that, that definitively would make them a dynasty. But to get to the question about Josh Allen and the Bills, here's, here's where I stand and tell me if you think it's unfair. I think Sean McDermott's a good coach. I think if they lose in the playoffs this year, pre super bowl again, they probably have to fire him. Yeah, I just don't. Especially if they lose to Kansas City. Yeah. I just don't think you can. I think you would need something to make the team believe going into the next year that this year will be different and if for the fifth time in six years you lose to the same team. And honestly, I mean, but what if.

[Devin]

It'S just that guy on the other side, man, like what if I, I know why.

[Noah]

That's why I said tell me if you think it's fair. Like maybe, maybe you just keep running it back. I don't know. But I. The stat that should worry. This is a thing that Scott Kasmar tweets about a lot and I do think is interesting. The stat that should worry Bills and Ravens fans is there has never been a coach quarterback combo that one a Super bowl that didn't win their first super bowl in their first five years together. Do you follow what I'm saying? So there's never been a coach quarterback combo that actually won the super bowl together that didn't win their first super bowl within their first five years of being together. So like for Reed and Mahomes, this is their ninth year together, but they won their first super bowl in their. Technically their third year together, but really their second year together. Second year start for Lamar and for Josh with Harbaugh and McDermott, this is year eight together that parties. And for Burrow and Zach Taylor, by the way, I think it's your six. So now maybe that's, you know, a nonsense stat but it is. The fact that it's never happened in 75 years of the NFL is noteworthy to me. So I think the Bill, the Bills, I would. I am in a position to Monte where if you were to tell me I've seen the future and the Kansas City Chiefs are not in the super bowl, who's, who's in it and who wins it, my answer would be Buffalo. They would be my number one pick. I think they're good enough. I think Josh is good enough. Even if I wouldn't have necessarily given James Cook multi year guarantees. He's obviously a good player and helps him this year. I like their secondary worries me a bit but I like the team a lot. But I just don't.

[Devin]

Although I've got a follow up in here. Like where do you think that this Bill's team ranks amongst other Bills teams going into.

[Noah]

I think they're very similar. I think, Listen, I think they're very similar and I think that those teams have been. I think last year's team was good enough. I thought a few years ago those teams were a little overrated, but I think last year's team was good enough. This team should be as good as last year's team. And as long as Josh continues his trend of not being, you know, like last year, he was great on not turning the ball over. They're going to be right there.

[Devin]

Roller coaster. Josh Allen alone.

[Noah]

No, because it hasn't been the case.

[Devin]

I've had her like that.

[Noah]

No, that right. Listen, I'm, I'm just fair. And I called him a roller coaster when he was. I didn't last year because he wasn't ever sign up for a phone plan thinking, wow, what a price. And then a few months later it's like, surprise. Bill's higher. Boost mobile. You pay $25 a month. Forever. That's unlimited talk, text and data starting at just $25 a month. No price hikes, no contract. Forever. Plus Boost Mobile is now a legit nationwide 5G network. They've invested billions building 5G towers across the country. Visit boostmobile.com or head to your local Boost store today and get unlimited talk, text and data for $25 a month. Forever. 5G speeds not available in all areas. After 30 gigabytes, customers may experience slower speeds. Customers will pay $25 a month as long as they remain active on the Boost Unlimited plan.

[Manny]

Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this.

[Noah]

Attention passengers. The pilot is having an emergency and we need someone, anyone to Land this plane.

[Manny]

Think you could do it? It turns out that nearly 50% of men think that they could land the plane with the help of air traffic control. And they're saying, like, okay, pull this. Until this. Pull that, Turn this. It's just I can do my eyes closed. I'm Manny.

[Noah]

I'm Noah.

[Devin]

This is Devin.

[Manny]

And on our new show, no such Thing, we get to the bottom of questions like these. Join us as we talk to the leading expert on overconfidence.

[Noah]

Those who lack expertise lack the expertise.

[Ken Jennings]

They need to recognize that they lack expertise.

[Manny]

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[John Lithgow]

Hello, I'm John Lithgow.

[Noah]

We choose to go to the moon.

[John Lithgow]

I want to tell you about my new fiction podcast that's One small step for Man. It's about Buzz Aldrin, one of the true pioneers of space.

[Noah]

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[John Lithgow]

That's the story you think you know. This is the story you don't predisposition.

[iHeart Podcast]

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[John Lithgow]

We'll see Buzz try to overcome demons.

[Ken Jennings]

What do you say, Buzz?

[Noah]

Another beer.

[John Lithgow]

And triumph over addiction.

[Ken Jennings]

Here's to you, Buzz Aldrin.

[John Lithgow]

Good luck to you and become a true hero.

[Noah]

Buzz and I will proceed into the.

[John Lithgow]

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[Noah]

Buzz, we intercepted a Soviet radio transmission.

[John Lithgow]

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[Noah]

Can you put it through?

[John Lithgow]

Can you Translate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts?

[Noah]

Columbia.

[Ken Jennings]

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[Noah]

I guess they would be conspiracy theorists.

[Ken Jennings]

That's right. Are there Jeopardy. Truthers? Are there people who say that it. It was rigged?

[Noah]

Yeah. Ever since I was first on, people are like, they gave you the answers, right? And then there's the other ones, which are like, they gave you the answers and you still blew it.

[Ken Jennings]

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[iHeart Podcast]

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[Noah]

All.

[iHeart Podcast]

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[Noah]

Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. All right, Damonte, let's go to the Giants.

[Devin]

So D named Russ the starter earlier this summer, but Jackson Dart came out in that preseason game, was using his legs, throwing some darts with Giants front office and the head coach on the hot seat. How soon do you think that they'll want to throw Dart in if things start going wrong?

[Noah]

Listen, D sure also seemed to really, you know, he was more complimentary of Jackson Dart than you've heard him be of a quarterback in a long time. I here's what I think. I don't think they are going to want. I think that they're going to try to ride with Russ for the first half of the season. I don't know if you've looked at what the Giants opening half of the season schedule is, but not a lot of soft spots. They go at Washington, at Dallas, home for the Chiefs, home for the Chargers, a brief respite with home for New Orleans, then Philly, Denver, Philly, San Francisco. And so, and you know, playing Philly twice in three weeks with a rookie quarterback seems like a nightmare. But then after that, as far as defenses you'll be facing after that, Philly, Denver, Philly Stretch, San Francisco, Chicago, Green Bay, Detroit, New England. Your bi week, Washington, Minnesota, Vegas, Dallas. I would imagine they are going to want to give Russ time to see, you know, if he can just be Fine. And the team can be alive. The ideal spot if they're not good to go to dart. They play Philly on a Thursday and they then have 10 days until the next game. That would, that would be a good spot. The problem is that team they play after those 10 days is Denver which should have one of the better defenses in the entire NFL. And so I think eventually, let me put it like this. I will be shocked if post bye week Jackson darts not the starter. But and I think there's a very good chance and the bi week for they have the last bi week they're by week week 14. I think there's a very good chance they go to him earlier than that. I do not think it is realistic that he is the week one starter. I don't think that is in line or even on Dable's mind for that to happen. But do I think that Brian Dable might be, you know, if week nine they're struggling the way to kind of potentially keep the job, go to the rookie of the rookie, show promise and be like, hey, that's what we've got coming next year. I think that's on the board. All right, let's keep going.

[Devin]

Shador suffered an oblique injury at practice and his status is currently up in the air. So Gabriel's in line to start in the next preseason game if he's healthy. So with Shador being fourth on the depth chart right now, how big of a ding is it for him if he misses a game?

[Noah]

All right, you're going to really, really. You're going to make that face you make when you think I'm being unfair to people?

[Devin]

Okay.

[Noah]

I think one of the best things that can happen for Shadors chances of moving up the depth chart is the next game. It's not about him not playing. It's about everyone seeing Dylan Gabriel and Kenny Pickett actually play. I think that. I think that having Dylan Gabriel and Kenny Pickett play against Philly could be the best thing possible for Shador Sanders to move up that depth chart. Neither one of those guys have gotten a full training camp because of the injuries they've suffered. Gabriel, whatever Philly starters that they're playing and that is a deep team in preseason game two is a little less vanilla. I think Gabriel, who yesterday, According to the ESPN Cleveland training camp stats was 6 of 19 in 11 on 11 and 7 on 7. I, I just think that assuming Shador's injury is very minor and he's able to practice by Monday, I think that him sitting and Picketing Gabriel with the Browns offensive players against the Eagles defensive players, the Browns backups against the Eagles backups and those guys in my opinion Pickett never and Gabriel not at this point being NFL starting caliber quarterbacks. I don't think this is the worst thing to happen to Shador. Now if it's a long lingering injury, I think that's disastrous. But I don't I, I it, it does not seem like that is likely the case. All right, let's go to Caleb.

[Devin]

So after watching that preseason game week one from the sideline, Caleb and the starters will be in this next game according to Ben Johnson. So what do you need to see from Caleb in this game and what do you not want to see from him?

[Noah]

Well, I just don't want to see him running around. I just want to see if listen, I think people have gotten too far down on Caleb. I think people are pre panicking about Ben Johnson overloading him with information. I again I think Ben Johnson, you know, knows what he's doing and it was he at least is executing the plan that he had. Ben Johnson was very judicious about which head coaching job he was going to take. He waited for this one, he took this one. He could have coached Herbert, he could have coached Washington. He had other jobs he could have taken. He wanted this one. So he clearly thinks Caleb's style can work with him but he is also trying to make Caleb have to process a ton early before they parrot back later. So I would just like to see Caleb look sharp and I still I believe in Caleb. I think there has been far far too big of an overcorrection on how good is Caleb Williams actually and I will say this demons a if Jaden has earned the benefit of the doubt of for until proven otherwise he's the best player from his from that draft class at the quarterback position which he's earned that like you can't Caleb Bo Bo actually had a good rookie year. Caleb and Drake May both struggled, barely played, JJ didn't play and Jadene had arguably the greatest rookie season ever. So if if we take Jaden outside of it, if you were to ask me who what quarterback from that draft class other than Jaden who do you think is going to have the best year Caleb, Bo, drake, pinnocks or McCarthy? I would pick Caleb Williams and it wouldn't be that hard for me me you guys know I'm not a believer the way other people are in Bo Nicks we've seen almost nothing from Pinx JJ we have seen Nothing from. And Drake May. I just don't. I don't think they have the offensive personnel for him to thrive this year. So I will. I believe that Caleb is going to have a better year than people expect. And I think that he is that Ben Johnson's approach of overload him now, then make it simpler later when the games actually matter. I think that's pretty smart. All right, let's go to go. Go ahead, pal.

[Devin]

What are you expecting out of the game? Like, I mean, I know it's a.

[Noah]

Preseason game, but I mean the. All I. So they play the Bills on Saturday on Fox. I think that the Lions passing offense should look good. I think the Bills secondary, as I said earlier, is already their weakness and their, you know, so that's their starting secondary. They're going to be playing backups at some point and then five days later they play the Chiefs in a game that I think is. While it was my super bowl pick last year, I think it's very possible that Caleb does not play in that game. I think Caleb could get a lot of work this Saturday night and then doesn't play in the final preseason game. So listen, I expect them to look good. We'll see. But I expect them to look good. All right, let's go to the Blazer sale.

[Devin]

Yeah. So the Allen family is selling the Trailblazers and setting their valuation at over 4. $4 billion.

[Noah]

Yeah. So here's. So here's why this is news. The news is Celtics sold for six. The Blazers just sold for four. The Lakers obviously sold for 10. Do we now know what an NBA, the generic NBA team costs? And my answer is I think we do. I think that the generic NBA team now costs $5 billion. Because I think the Blazers, because of market size, are a below average value NBA team and it is in line with Adam Silver wanting the expansion fee to be $6 billion. And but here's the thing, and I will give after, you know, even though I disagreed with his quarterback pyramid, I will give Bill Simmons credit on this. Simmons is usually way ahead of the curve on like NBA ownership and league office going ons and he, he keeps more than alluding to that. They are pumping the brakes on expansion. Now what does that mean for LeBron's ability to own a team and what does that mean for, you know, the potential competing, not quite competing, but, you know, other league? I'm not certain but 4 billion for the Blazers is a great number for the other 29 NBA owners. As summer winds down, it's nice to get back into a routine. There's no one better to help than Wayfair. From bedding and linens to storage solutions for every room in the house. Wayfairs, your one stop shop to refresh your home. Change up your workspace with desks, bookcases, office chairs for way less. Or make weeknight dinners a thing again with quality cookware that makes meal time so simple. Football season's right around the corner. Wayfair set me up perfectly with a new recliner to watch all the games. But they offer so much more kitchen essentials. Desks, lamps, anything you need, Wayfair has it. There's something for every style in every home. No matter your space or budget, Wayfair makes it easy. Tackle your home goals with endless inspiration for every space and budget. Free and easy delivery, even on the big stuff. We had a couch delivered from Wayfair not that long ago. Again, the free delivery on something like that is a huge, huge savings. No more huge delivery fees for furniture. Get big stuff like sofas, dining tables, beds and more shipped for free. Get organized, refreshed, and back to routine for way less. Head to Wayfair.com right now to shop all things. That's W A Y F A I R.com Wayfair Every style, every home. All right, Damani, let's do the Lions real quick before we get out of here.

[Devin]

Dan Campbell said he's motivated by people doubting his that he can succeed without his star coordinators. But we've always known that Dan Campbell's never struggled with motivation. Besides motivation, what do you think that Dan Campbell brings to the table as a head coach?

[Noah]

Well, listen, I think he's a very good head coach. I think he sets a culture and I think his aggressiveness on fourth downs is. That's a Dan Campbell, not a Ben Johnson thing. And I think that instills a real edge for them. But here is my overarching take, so to speak, that I think that I said on the show yesterday that I hadn't I thought of while we were within the segment. And I was like, you know what? It just was kind of a eureka moment. I was like, I think that's right.

[Manny]

Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this.

[Noah]

Attention passengers. The pilot is having an emergency and we need someone, anyone to land this plane.

[Manny]

Think you could do it? It turns out that nearly 50% of men think that they could land the plane with the help of air traffic control. And they're saying like, okay, pull this until this pull that turn this. It's just I can do my eyes closed. I'm Manny.

[Noah]

I'm Noah.

[Devin]

This is Devin.

[Manny]

And on our new show, no Such Thing, we get to the bottom of questions like these. Join us as we talk to the leading expert on overconfidence.

[Noah]

Those who lack expertise lack the expertise they need to recognize that they lack expertise.

[Manny]

And then as we try the whole thing out for real. Wait, what? Oh, that's the Runway. I'm looking at this thing. See? Listen to no Such thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[John Lithgow]

Hello, I'm John Lithgow.

[Noah]

We choose to go to the moon.

[John Lithgow]

I want to tell you about my new fiction podcast.

[Noah]

That's One small step for Man.

[John Lithgow]

It's about Buzz Aldrin, one of the true pioneers of space.

[Noah]

You're a great pilot, Buzz. As far as I'm concerned, the best I've seen.

[John Lithgow]

That's the story you think you know. This is the story you don't predisposition.

[iHeart Podcast]

To depression, alcohol abuse, and suicide.

[John Lithgow]

We'll see Buzz try to overcome demons.

[Ken Jennings]

What do you say, Buzz?

[Noah]

Another beer.

[John Lithgow]

And triumph over addiction.

[Ken Jennings]

Here's to you, Buzz Aldrin.

[John Lithgow]

Good luck to you and become a true hero.

[Noah]

Buzz and I will proceed into the.

[John Lithgow]

Lunar module not because he conquers space, but because he conquers himself.

[Manny]

Buzz, we intercepted a Soviet radio transmission.

[John Lithgow]

Starring me, John Lithgow.

[Noah]

Can you put it through?

[John Lithgow]

Can you Translate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts?

[Noah]

Columbia.

[Ken Jennings]

Hello, puzzlers. Let's start with a quick puzzle. The answer is Ken Jennings appearance on the puzzler with A.J. jacobs. The question is, what is the most entertaining listening experience in podcast land? Jeopardy. Truthers who say that you were given all the answers believe in.

[Noah]

I guess they would be conspiracy theorists.

[Ken Jennings]

That's right. Are there Jeopardy. Truthers? Are there people who say that it. It was rigged?

[Noah]

Yeah. Ever since I was first on, people are like, they give you the answers, right? And then there's the other ones, which are like, they gave you the answers and you still blew it.

[Ken Jennings]

Don't miss Jeopardy. Legend Ken Jennings on our special game show week of the Puzzler podcast. The puzzler is the best place to get your daily word puzzle fix. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[iHeart Podcast]

Get fired up, y'.

[Noah]

All.

[iHeart Podcast]

Season 2 of Good Game with Sarah Spain is underway. We just welcomed one of my favorite people and an incomparable soccer icon, Megan Rapinoe. To the show and we had a blast. We talked about her recent 40th birthday celebrations, Co hosting a podcast with her fiance sue, bird watching former teammates retire and more. Never a dull moment with Pino. Take a listen. What do you miss the most about being a pro athlete? The final. The final and the locker room. I really, really like you. Just you can't replicate. You can't get back showing up to the locker room every morning just to talk. We've got more incredible guests like the legendary Candace Parker and college superstar AZ Foote. I mean, seriously, y', all, the guest list is absolutely stacked for season two. And you know, we're always going to keep you up to speed on all the news and happenings around the women's sports world as well. So make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Noah]

Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I think setting a culture and motivation and the things we know Dan Campbell's great at are hugely important to turn a team around, to get a team from where the Lions were to a legitimate NFL team. But I think there are diminishing returns on that. Once your team is a real contender because once your team is competing for championships, once you do have really good players, there's a lot of self starting and self motivation and the culture is set. Once you get to that point, then I do think the coordinators who are more your tacticians, those guys have an increased value when you're actually trying to win a championship. So that I have four significant concerns about the Lions this year or one is what you're talking about right there, the loss of coordinators. The second one is how does Goff respond to that playoff meltdown? I think that's a fair question. Three is, is this the worst offensive line golf has had and the Lions have had since golf has been there? I should say. And how does that impact him? And four is the this schedule plus the toll of being so close two years ago, having the best record in the conference last year and not making a Super bowl, does that is it just too much to overcome? So with all that, for all those reasons like do I think it's on the board the Lions go from the number one seed to missing the playoffs? I think that's on the board. Was that going to be my pick? I don't. I'm not sure yet. But I think that that team, they could take a major step back this year and I think the coordinators are not all of it, but a big piece of it. All right, reminder like rate, subscribe, review. We iTunes, Spotify, YouTube, all of that. All right, Damonte, let's go to Zach's question.

[Devin]

Yeah, it's pretty good if the Ravens have an MVP at quarterback and one of the best rosters in the league each year.

[Noah]

What?

[Devin]

When? Oh, yeah. When does Harbaugh start to get on the hot seat for not winning anything in years?

[Noah]

I mean, honestly, a lot of what I said about McDermotter, right? Oh, well, no, about McDermott, about like if they lose again, even if he's a good coach. Do you have to make a move would apply to Harbaugh. Except with the Ravens prior to last year, folks, people didn't blame Harbaugh. They were just like Lamar didn't. Yeah, for real now last year, again, we don't have to relitigate it, but Lamar wasn't horrific. You know what I mean? Like there was, there was a lot that went into. Oh wow. That. There's a lot that went into the. The Ravens playoff loss. But here is some news. Yeah, wow. This is shocking to me. So Rasheed Rice news. And I don't know how I feel about this, to be honest with you. All right, so Rasheed Rice is expected to have his disciplinary hearing with the NFL on Tuesday, September 30th in New York. This means Rice is likely to be able to play the first four weeks of the season before any potential discipline is imposed for his role in a multi car crash. Last, you know, in the 2024 off season with Rash. This is from Schefter. With Rasheed Rice's hearing now on track, September 30, that would make him eligible play in the Chiefs opening four games. The Chargers in Brazil, the Eagles at the Giants and the Ravens. All right, I gotta tell you, I assuming that he's not going to get 10 games and I don't think that's likely. I think the. I think it is probably going to be four or five or six. That would be my guess. This is kind of ideal for Kansas city because for three reasons demons. A1 is that opening month is brutal. You know, neutral site against the second best team in the division. Home game, super bowl rematch, week two, week three at the Giants. And again the Giants are going to have a great pass rush, but they're not a very good team. And then home for Baltimore to to have that be to know Rice is going to be there for those games when the next handful of games are At Jacksonville, home for the Lions, home for the Raiders, home for Washington, that stuff at Buffalo, they lose that game every year. Then a bye week like that. Timing I like a lot. That's first of all. The other one is this. I like the idea of the Chiefs being able to start the season whole. Like, see what it, you know what I mean? See what it looks like. And then you treat the suspension like a pulled hamstring. Like, oh, he's going to be out six weeks. That's a bummer. But we already saw it. So I, I expected the suspension to be, you know, at least those first four games. It's now not. I mean, if he's not having his hearing until September 30th, he Definitely. Now the concern would be if the NFL like throws the book at him and all of a sudden he misses the entirety of the rest of the year. Like, what if the league gives him a 12 game suspension and now instead of being back for the final month of the year, he's out until the final game of the year. But I don't think, I think when Jordan Addison got three games for dui, I think Rasheed Rashees was different. Like it was wildly dangerous and irresponsible. There were people, minor injuries. But he also wasn't impaired. At least they, you know, wasn't proven to be. So I don't. So I think it'll be probably double Jordan Addison, you know, four or five or six is what I think will happen. But the timing of that's really, really lucky for Kansas City. Start your Chiefs conspiracy theories now. Like rate, subscribe, review. Appreciate all you guys. We will be back a week from, from Tuesday on this show with our gambling shows next week, Tuesday and Thursday. Demanze. Congrats on the snakes. Thank you to Blue Duck. Thank you to Volume. Thank you to Boost. Thank you to Wayfair. Thank you to DraftKings. See you guys all on TV in a few hours. What's right?

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