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Welcome in episode 399 of what's Right with the Gripe presented to you by Boost Mobile, which means Tomorrow's week 14 teen gambling show is episode 400. Let me check real quick in real time where we're at on YouTube. YouTube we are. Oh this I could screw everything up right now by going YouTube. We're still right around 226,000 subscribers. We added we had a very ambitious goal of getting to for 250,000 by the Super Bowl. I don't think that is.
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Going to happen but we're. It's still steady growth and we appreciate that and we really appreciate everybody that sent us messages that we were part of their Spotify wrapped year end most listened to. So thank you guys so much for that. And if you're new to the show, reminder to everybody. This is a full blown.
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Damanze
I'm doing fantastic, Pops. How are you doing?
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Bucky Brooks
I'm doing well. We are approaching the one month birthday I guess of Myla.
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Yeah, month day. There you go. So that's coming up in five days in. This is terrible.
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Damanze
Well, it's start. No, it's coming up four. It's four because it was Monday and I'm just thinking Monday is four days away.
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Bucky Brooks
The Am I tripping?
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Damanze
Is Monday not four days away?
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Bucky Brooks
Defin. Monday is four days away. You're definitely tripping though on a bunch of front. She was not born on a Monday. I understand for you it was fog of.
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Damanze
Oh, it was Sunday. It was. It was okay.
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Bucky Brooks
It was a long, long. Yeah, yeah. But also that's not really like the. It's not going to be Sunday to Sunday because that's just 28 days. So like her the. But regardless, that's coming up back at work back here parenting the whole nine. So we've got all that going on a ton to get to today with the single biggest NFL weekend of the year. We're going to get into that some today and some in tomorrow's show. Also we will do whittling down the 25 hall of Fame semifinalists to our five picks to actually make the hall of Fame something We remarkably went perfect on the last time we did it. We went 5 for 5 with which shocked me as much as anybody because that's a damn near impossible thing to predict unless it's no brainers. But there's never no brainers because so many guys feel like no brainers. So we'll do that and we will start the show with Is Giannis finally going to be traded? But before we get to that, straight to voicemail. Presented to you by Boost Mobile Terence Crawford stripped of his WBC title cause he wouldn't pay some sanctioning fees. It's so stupid. Listen, I'm not, I haven't researched this enough to know if Terrence is in the wrong. But even if he's in the wrong, I'm on Bud's side. Like the guys the, the biggest star boxing has had in a decade. It's awesome that he has all these championship belts. Someone else pay those fees? Lakers Celtics preview We're not going to get to that. However, I will say, you know Luca in Slovenia for the birth of his child, reportedly, which was a little surprising that the, the mother of his child doesn't live here. I think it's his girlfriend. I should have researched this more in the States. But regardless, so he's going to miss some time. The Celtics are playing really well and the Clippers move on from Chris Paul in embarrassing, very Clipper ish fashion. And I understand that it would appear Lawrence Frank has just a ton of friends in the media, but at some point someone be like, oh, he's been running that team for a decade, has had limitless resources in a huge market and they've never competed for anything. This year's team has been an embarrassment from the word go. They did create a dynasty potentially, but it's in Oklahoma City. Like anybody going to be like, hey Lawrence Frank, let's check the ledger on good move, bad move, franchise altering disaster move. And you guys can't figure out, I understand if you guys were good and Chris Paul was a nuisance, it's one thing. But when you're 5 and 16 to be like, yeah, Chris Paul's been a pain in the ass behind the scenes. Well, maybe you should just listen to him. Like what's the worst going to happen from just being like, ah, we'll try it Chris's way. So there's that reminder everybody like Rate Subscribe Review Damanze let's talk Giannis.
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Damanze
Yeah. So on Tuesday we talked about how impossible it was for Giannis to be catching LeBron on that all time season points. Today we're going to be talking about how possible it is that he's leaving Milwaukee. Do you think that's going to eventually happen? His agent and the Bucks are talking about his future there. Gianna seems a little fake too.
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Bucky Brooks
What do you mean?
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Damanze
I don't know. I feel like he says one thing and he always means another thing. Like I feel like he did the same thing with the like Drew Holiday trade. I feel like he did the same thing with this off season, saying that he wants to be there and like he kind of hasn't wanted to be there the entire time.
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Bucky Brooks
So this kind of goes back to the Lane Kiffin thing. It's very important in life to learn at an early age.
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Nobody gets everything.
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Nobody gets everything.
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iHeartRadio Host
And.
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Bucky Brooks
There are trade offs that adults have to make where they do the old cliche pros and cons list and you determine what matters most to you and what will make you happiest and act accordingly. And when you say Giannis has seemed a little fake, what I think is causing that.
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Is he wants to be beloved in Milwaukee and doesn't want to play for Milwaukee anymore. And he I think recognizes those two things might be in conflict now. I don't think he would ever be reviled or hated in Milwaukee at large. He's a franchise legend. He delivered them their only championship since Kareem there. You know, he has been a great NBA citizen and an even greater NBA player or vice versa. However you want to look at it, he's one of the 20 greatest players ever. All of that is that cement is dry. But I think he understands.
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That in whatever is left of his prime, which could be, you know, up to four years maybe you might have that mo that much longer. In his prime, this buck seems not going to be able to compete for anything. They they have mortgaged and second mortgaged and taken out payday loans on the future and those bills have all slowly but surely come due.
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And so I think it's pretty clear he does want out.
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And I think it's also pretty clear he doesn't know exactly how to do that because he doesn't want to just straightforward do a trade demand. But we are inching towards it. So in today's NBA there. And by the way, it should also be noted, last night it looked like he might have suffered a catastrophic injury. The dreaded non contact look back did someone kick me reaction which everybody these days knows that is part and parcel with an Achilles tear. But we've now had back to back big time athletes in a couple weeks have that exact reaction to what appears to be that injury. And for both of them it was the far less serious but still very scary calf strain to what happened with Sauce Gardner a couple weeks ago. I'm with Giannis last night and so I talked with.
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Yeah, I'm allowed to say this. I actually oddly, randomly.
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No, I'm not going to say who it was. I talked with one of the greatest athletes ever.
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In real time about Tyrese Halliburton's Achilles right when it happened and.
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That what that person said was.
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In our game, the calf strain is the new.
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I think he said ACL not in that you're out a year with it, but it's the most dreaded injury and it's because the there's no way this again, this was this guy's opinion but he would know there's no way to rehab it. You simply have to stay off it. So I think Giannis, like here's the thing that I think is noteworthy and why I wanted to start with this. It is very possible.
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That last night was Giannis's last game with the Bucks.
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That'S on the board. I, I might even go as far as to say it's the most likely.
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Reality because.
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If he has to miss weeks maybe up to a month with a calf strain and obviously he and Milwaukee are going to want to be incredibly cautious with this.
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Then come December 15th, you know, that's 11 days away and.
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That'S when everybody who signed this off season is eligible to be traded. More people are eligible to be traded starting the beginning of January. And this just could happen in the next month. And at this point I think it is going to happen in the next month.
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Damanze
Where do you think would be the best landing spot for them?
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Bucky Brooks
So ESPN credit to them did a good job.
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Putting together five trades and this is why I'm. I really want to credit them because with the new CBA and the aprons, it is very difficult to construct trades that actually work. So these five ESPN trades, Bobby Marks has given them the stamp of yes, the CBA would allow it. The off the board.
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Most interesting one that I actually, actually think.
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Might be the most win, win, have a chance to compete, go on deep playoff runs and you could sell it to both fan bases.
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And sadly is the least likely to happen is Giannis to the Hawks.
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So here is ESPN's Trade is as follows. Giannis and Cole Anthony for salary reasons for Trey Young and recess. So the number one overall pick from a couple years ago in Recessey, Trey Young, who's got a couple years left on his deal and then some really juicy picks. Most notably.
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The first round pick the Pelicans traded to the Hawks. Which keep in mind, here's why that trade is so interesting for Milwaukee. That first round pick the Pelicans traded to the Hawks to Monze is the better of New Orleans has picked this year or Milwaukee's pick this year.
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Damanze
Yeah.
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Bucky Brooks
So what one of them is going to be Milwaukee. Right. What Milwaukee would then allow for is if by trading Giannis you fall apart in the short term. You then have the Pelicans ping pong balls and your own ping pong balls. Right, Right.
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And whichever is the best of those two, you get that pick in this draft. Atlanta also has.
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20, 27 first round pick, top four protected in this trade that is again.
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Well, this is the worse of the Pelicans and the Bucks, but maybe you could sweeten it to the better of and then a couple other picks. So that to me is really interesting. If you keep Jalen Johnson, you keep Dyson.
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Milwaukee then can maybe flip Trey Young as well. And Recesse was the number one pick of a draft. And Atlanta, which has proven they're just as good with or without Trey Young this season, maybe better without him. Giannis, Jalen Johnson, Porzingis when he's out there to very interesting team in a wide open east and with flexibility moving forward. So that's the one that makes the most sense for everybody. I don't know that I think that one is.
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Realistic in that I don't know if that's something Giannis would sign off on.
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Damanze
Yeah.
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Bucky Brooks
And. But I think that's the best Milwaukee can and doesn't.
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Damanze
It has seemed like Giannis has wanted to play for a big market team. So the way that he talks, that.
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Bucky Brooks
Might be hard, but. Right. And Atlanta is bigger than Milwaukee, obviously. But it's not like the marquee market. I also think Atlanta is more attractive to American born NBA stars than international.
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So I think that. But it's from a basketball perspective, you stay in the Eastern Conference. The team keeps really good pieces. I think there's a lot of reasons for it. The next trade ESPN brings up is the one we talked about all summer, which was Giannis to the Rockets. Here's the thing. So this is Giannis and his brother for Shin Goon and Van Vliet, who's obviously out for the year with an injury and one first round pick.
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I don't love this for either team.
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Damanze
Yeah.
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Bucky Brooks
To be totally honest, I Don't think that's quite enough. Damanze, if you're.
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Milwaukee.
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Damanze
Yeah.
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Bucky Brooks
As much as I love, I love Shingoon, that's to me not enough because you've traded away so many of your own future picks. Like you need more draft capital. And if I'm Houston, I'm like, man.
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I'm all of a sudden getting really old. Like I already have Durant. Now I'm adding a guy in year 13.
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Damanze
Promise. Younger.
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Bucky Brooks
Yeah, right. I. It doesn't right now as is, we have the number one offense in all of basketball and we're doing it without a point guard because Shingoon kind of plays that. So that's just if I'm Houston. And the other thing is if I'm in the west this year, I don't know that I want to push all my chips in this year because I might feel like OKC is just sitting there anyway. So I loved that this off season. I don't love it as much now the, the next trade.
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ESPN had and again, I usually like to make my own trades, but the CBA is so restrictive and there's only a handful of teams that this would make sense for that. It didn't make sense for me to. I would have come up with these. Everybody's talking about these same four or five teams and if we're talking about the same teams, we're all going to be talking about the same players. So I'll just give Kevin Pelton and Bobby Marks their, their credit for getting this out there and crib off their work. The next one Dean is the Knicks, Giannis and Sims again for salary reasons. Sims back to New York, by the way, for Carl Anthony Towns Colect diadet. So it's really Giannis for towns plus a 2026 first round pick that won't be a first round pick because it's the Wizards pick that's tied to top eight protected. And where are the Wizards? So like that. That one's. That's a fake good pick. Like let me just look at the standings real quick. Yeah, the Wizards, where I thought they would be, where they always are dead last. So that, that, that the. And then some pick swaps.
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And. And just really just pick swaps. So that's the problem. The problem for Milwaukee getting to getting Giannis Demons A. I'm sorry, the Knicks getting Giannis is it's really just Giannis for Town straight up with likely no extra picks.
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Damanze
Right.
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Bucky Brooks
Man.
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That'S a tough sell. Yeah, that's a really tough sell. If You're Milwaukee.
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Damanze
Yeah, go ahead. Well, yeah, I was about saying you might. I think Carl Anthony Towns is the better shot. Obviously, Giannis is the more physical, imposing.
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Bucky Brooks
Player, but, oh, Giannis is a way better player.
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Damanze
Oh, yeah, it would change.
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Bucky Brooks
You would lose shooting, you would lose some spacing. There's no doubt about it. But if the Knicks could flip Towns for Giannis and that's the only rotation pieces they're trading, they become the overwhelming Eastern Conference favorites over the Jalen Brunson and Giannis running pick, like, there's overwhelming. I just. They traded all those picks away for Bridges.
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And so the only way Giannis goes there is if.
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The. He says, that's the only place I want to go, and Milwaukee bends to it. So there's two more.
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The spurs, they can include a bunch of picks.
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And again, it would be a real negotiation. Are you including Castle or are you including.
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Dylan Harper? Are you. Are we trading de' Aaron Fox? That's the one.
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That.
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If.
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If I were Milwaukee, I would be interested in.
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If I could get Harper instead of Castle, and if I were San Antonio, I might look at it like this, man, I do not know.
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How long Wimby's prime is gonna be.
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Like, I think that is. I think, because of his size and already the injury stuff, I think that, like, you can't treat Wimy's timeline like Cooper flags or like a traditional.
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Damanze
So basically saying he's untouchable when it comes to trading, like, and actually think about putting him in or.
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Bucky Brooks
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'd never trade him. What I'm saying is I'm. I think sometimes when you have a great, really young players not yet to his prime, you're like, let's wait to make the move.
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Damanze
Okay, so you're saying, like, move now, act now.
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Bucky Brooks
I'm saying accelerate. I'm. I'm saying if you're San Antonio, it might make sense to accelerate because you don't in 10 years, what you know, your best chance to win might be right. You know, the next four years or something. So that, to me, is an interesting one. But again, does Giannis want to go.
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From Milwaukee to San Antonio? And does Giannis want to spend the end of his prime as maybe the second guy on a team? I don't know. And then the last one is Golden State, which I just don't understand why Milwaukee would do this. This is Draymond Kaminga and Healed, none of which are at this point in their careers useful players, like, at a high level, without steph without you know, somebody that creates the offense. Draymond super useful in his role but on a bad team and then a bunch of first round picks. I totally get why the warriors would do this but I don't.
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I don't.
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I don't know why and I, I.
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Damanze
Feel like Draymond going to another team that definitely stunts it how much longer.
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Bucky Brooks
He'S in the league I think they buy yeah a hundred percent and I, I, you know Draymond, you would then maybe flip Draymond to a contender that could want right. Because he's. Draymond's still super useful if you're playing big basketball games.
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Damanze
Yeah. His IQ and all that stuff. But yeah.
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Bucky Brooks
And so and if I'm Milwaukee, I don't know that I want a bunch of first round picks from Golden State when I know Golden State's got that ownership, that coach and going to have Giannis even when Steph is gone. So Atlanta is the best trade. Houston's the most interesting. The Knicks are far and away the worst trade and would only happen if Giannis demands it and, and Milwaukee acquiesces.
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And then I don't see the warriors and the spurs. One really depends on how aggressive the spurs want to want to be. So but I think Giannis, my big takeaway demon is I think we now it is more likely than not.
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That the next because of the injury last night, the next game Giannis plays in the NBA will be for a different team, which is crazy. Today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor, Hard Rock Bet. Big news. Hard Rock Bet is now live in Michigan. Sign up today. Place your first five dollar sports bet. If it wins, you get $150 in bonus bets on top of your winnings. And and if you're more into casino games, new customers can get up to $1,000 back in casino bonus. If you're not up money after your first 24 hours playing slots, win money or get a casino bonus back. Plus you also get 200 bonus spins winnings paid in cash. Not sure what to place your first bet on? Head over to Hard Rock Bet stats hub and it'll help you out. It's loaded with trend streaks and stacks to help guide your picks. Numbers don't lie and neither does the data in there. Check out the stats hub now. Get the edge so you can bet with confidence. Plus, Hard Rock Bet offers new promos daily. Plus big legendary reward drops every Thursday like gifts under the tree. So whenever you're listening, open the app. Check out what you've got waiting for you. Download the Hard Rock Bet app and make your first deposit payable and bonus bets. Not a cash offer offered by the Seminole Trade Tribe of Florida in Florida offered by Seminole hard Rock Digital LLC in all other states. Must be 21 plus and physically present in Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee or Virginia to play. Terms and conditions apply. Concerned about gambling in Florida? Call 1-888- admit it in Indiana. If you or someone you know has a gambling problem and wants help, call 1-809 with it gambling problem, call 1-800- gambler in Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee or Virginia.
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Bucky Brooks
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Damanze
Everything's going to be okay on the other side, you know, just push through it.
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Bucky Brooks
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Wow.
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Bucky Brooks
All right, let's talk about tonight's football game. Dean.
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Damanze
All right, Jerry Jones is already talking playoffs, but they have the Lions tonight. And if they play Lions and they lose the playoff, what do you call it? The playoff simulator. That's putting it to under 10% that they make it if they lose tonight. Do you think we're done talking about Dallas for the season?
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Bucky Brooks
I don't, and here's why.
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So it's very simple. Dallas needs two more wins than Philly the rest of the way in order to steal the division. So If Dallas goes 5 and oh, and Philly goes 3 and 2, Dallas wins the division. 3 and 2 are worse. Obviously, if Dallas goes 4 and 1.
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And Philly goes 2 and 3, Dallas steals the division. Even if the Cowboys lose tonight.
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They then go home, Vikings, home, Chargers, tough at the Commanders. Short week Christmas, don't know, you know, what the commanders will look like at that point. Should have Jaden back. And then at Giants, I think the Cowboys, even if they lose tonight, have a chance to go 4 and 1 and Philly on the other hand, has a handful of oh well, given how they've been playing, they could lose that at the Chargers Monday night. Obviously they could lose home for the Raiders, you can't lose. But then at Washington, at the Bills and then home for Washington. So even if the Cowboys lose tonight, I don't think we're going to be done talking about them. Even though at that point if they lose tonight, they're going to have to basically, you know, draw to an inside straight. But I think they've got, they would have, like you said, 10% chance, maybe a little better than that because I do think the Cowboys are playing at a super high level right now. So here are and I expect the Lions to win tonight. I just think asking a team to beat Philly, beat Kansas City, then beat Detroit, the last of which is on the road is a hell of an ask. And the Lions are, you know, they haven't lost two in a row since like Dan Campbell's first year there. They've been incredible. They've been the best team in the league at bouncing back from losses. And you mentioned if they lose, the Athletic playoff predictor has them. It has the Cowboys at 10%. If the Lions lose, the Athletic playoff predictor has them at 12%. So and they don't have just one team in front of them in the division that they would need to collapse. They have the Packers Bears in front of them in the division and those teams play each other twice. So either one of them is going to go two and oh or they're going to split. So you know, they are as they sit here today. Daman say The Lions are 4% to win that division and with a loss and it's basically dead to win the division. Now I think the Lions win tonight.
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But it is going to be frisky. Go ahead.
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Damanze
I think, yeah, I think it's going to be pretty frisky.
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Bucky Brooks
Well, the Cowboys look great. Dak is playing out of his mind and Dak with a great performance tonight and a win.
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Can maybe open up the MVP Race to a third person. Yeah, right now it's Stafford in May. But Dak, if, if Joe Burrow last year ended up getting votes and finishing fourth or fifth for a team that missed the playoffs, if Dakota gets this team back from the dead and they end up, you know, running down Philadelphia and winning the division, then I think he might be, you know, him, Stafford and May will be a real discussion. And I think what people will say is Stafford's got a great defense, May's got a really good defense. The Cowboys defense, the first 10 weeks of the year was a train wreck. And so that's how they will offset the records of those two guys. I just.
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It'S hard for me to believe.
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Demonte, that the Lions season is going to end tonight. It's not hard for me to believe the Cowboy. Listen, the Cowboys, they traded Micah. They, you know, they've lost some bad games. They're hot right now. But are the, are the Lions going to, in what is supposed to be their championship window flat, you know, miss the playoffs this year, which would then mean in consecutive years they win a grand total of zero playoff games.
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They're going to go from up 17 in the conference championship game to the one seed and getting clocked in their first playoff game to out of the playoffs entirely. And by the way, even if they win tonight, they might do that. Like if they win tonight, it is. And then they lose next week to the Rams, they're back down to 35% to make the playoffs. And.
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The Lions, the Lions basically.
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Have to go four and one the rest of the way to make the postseason.
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If they do that, then they almost assuredly should be in. If they don't, then they almost assuredly are out. Their games are home. Cowboys at the Rams home, Steelers at the Vikings at the Bears. It's not easy, man. And so I don't. Let me check. Oh, I saw it yesterday. A Monroe St. Brown is listed as questionable. The. I, I think obviously seems like he might play. Yeah, I think he's going to play. And so if he were out with laporta already out and some of the other injuries they have, that might be enough to push me to Dallas with him playing. I and the fact that I just don't. Dallas has looked amazing. I, you know, I saw it up close and personal. Dallas has looked amazing the last couple weeks.
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But the week before that, you know, they lost to Arizona. They have, they, they got, I forget the other game because they lost back to back games. But regardless.
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I don't, I've got the Lions tonight.
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But if the Lions lose, they're just done and that would just kind of be going out with a whimper that I don't expect. Even having lost the coordinators, which again every year we in the off season we gloss over the coordinator losses. The Lions offense hasn't been the same without Ben Johnson and the Bears offense running game has been unbelievable. With Ben Johnson, the Lions defense has been fine, but they seem to miss Aaron Glenn and the jets might want to give him back, but it's just, it hasn't.
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And Dan Campbell taking over play calling didn't, you know, just snap fix everything.
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Damanze
All right, so big game for your boys this weekend and it's coming up against that top ranked defense and the Texans. Is it fair to say that this is the biggest regular season game of Patrick Mahm's career?
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Bucky Brooks
Yeah. And you know that's just going to keep happening like the then neck if they win or lose, next week's even bigger honestly. So if they win then next week against the Chargers, you really have a chance to get back on your feet. So if the Chiefs win and they get to 7 and 6 and critically de facto pass Houston in the standings because they'll both be 76 but Casey will have the head to head tiebreaker and then you play the Chargers. You have a chance if Philly beats the Chargers to also then draw even with the chargers and be 8 and 6 with a Titans game coming up. A Raiders game is your final game of the year and feel like okay, you know we can salvage this thing.
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If you lose then.
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Next week's game against the Chargers is a playoff game and you kind of know deep down even winning out there's a very good chance it's not enough. So the the Chiefs can make the playoffs. They will make the playoffs at if they run the table.
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They can make the playoffs at 4 and 1. But who that one loss comes to is wildly influential. So if they go 4 and 1 again, I'll just use the athletic playoff predictor. If they go 4 and 1 but the loss is to the Texans, they're 40% to make the playoffs.
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If they go 4 and 1 but the Loss is to the Chargers, they're 43% to make the playoffs. If they go 4 and 1 but the loss Is to the Broncos, they're 53% to make the playoffs and that's because the they're not trying One of the teams trying to take that last playoff spot isn't the Broncos, it's the Texans or the Chargers. So like the in oddly the team that if they go 4 and 1 but the loss is to the Titans.
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They'Re 70% to make the playoffs because that wouldn't be a divisional loss and the Titans don't matter regardless point remains losing either. The next two weeks for Mahomes are the biggest regular season games of his career, which are obviously.
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He'S played in 21 playoff games. He's 17 and 4 in the playoffs. They're not, you know they are so they are the 22nd and 23rd biggest games of his career. But that's still something. Here's the thing though. All week long Demons a I've been talking about and folks seem in the national media to also now be talking about that chief's inability to get to the quarterback has been their problem. Third down defense My pal Mina Kimes had this I'm going to read directly from her Twitter. She had the stats from 2022 to 2024 when the Chiefs blitzed, they ranked first in yards per play, second impression pressure rate third and sac rate first, second, third. When they blitzed over the last three years. This year in those same categories when they blitzed they are 31st, 28th, 31st. So they have gone from the best blitz team in the league to the worst blitz team in the league. Their third in long defense has gone from great to too awful and those are hand and glove directly correlated with that said Damanze.
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That's not my biggest concern for this game. My biggest concern. Go ahead.
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Damanze
It's the whole line. I imagine that that defense coming up.
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Bucky Brooks
Yeah. So Josh Simmons is out. He's on the ir. Even if they make I don't know. You know they haven't given us an indication on if they make the playoffs. Would he be back for a playoff run? God willing, if they make the playoffs, I'd hope so. They get but they've dealt without Josh Simmons Jalen Moore is not as good as Josh Simmons, but they signed him this offseason. Simmons missed that time with the family issue. They've had someone else play left tackle this year and been okay. But Juwan Taylor is also injured. He did not practice yesterday. Trey Smith is also injured. He did not practice yesterday.
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If Josh Simmons and your right guard and your right tackle are out against this Texans team, it is going to take one of the most brilliant Andy Reid game plans of his Life and a 10 out of 10 even by his standards, Patrick Mahomes performance to be able to move the ball. And so that's. That's what I am.
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Damanze
Scary.
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Bucky Brooks
Yeah.
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Now. Now the flip side is this Texans offense has been, you know, really a mess all year and this is an opportunity.
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For spags in that defense to cook a bit. But.
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This would be my.
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Number 32 draft pick.
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Damanze
Oh.
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Bucky Brooks
Of teams I would want to face with the offensive line in this. In this shape.
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Damanze
Yeah.
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Bucky Brooks
And Wanya Morris has just been so problematic his whole career. Now listen, he's your third string left tackle. Nobody has a good third string left tackle. But man, that is so that's my concern.
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Damanze
Is it fair to say that you need the running backs to kind of step up in this game? Yes, yes, you're right.
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Bucky Brooks
But I mean the running backs though need good blocking too. But yeah, this is a game where you would love if you could hand the ball off 35 times.
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Damanze
Right.
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Bucky Brooks
You would love it. I don't know that the Texans defense is just so good and so yeah, I'm concerned now. Hopefully Arrowhead Sunday night. That crowd helps the defense. But.
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I, I need to see the Thursday and Friday practice reports before I can give because they can deal without Josh Simmons. It won't be great, but they can deal with it. No Josh Simmons and no Joanne Taylor and no Trey Smith. That might be a bridge too far against this defense. All right, let's. You know what? Let's get to. Yeah, let's get to Eagles Chargers Damanze.
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Damanze
A little bit before, we know that your Chiefs need a little bit of help from some other teams to make this playoff push a little bit easier to get to. So the Eagles are playing the Chargers and Justin Herbert's got a hand injury. I think he just got surgery, so he's day to day. So how's it going to feel this weekend when you're rooting for the Eagles?
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Bucky Brooks
It's going to feel weird, man. I, I don't even know, like.
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Because I, it's not that I have like lifelong disliked the Eagles most of my life. I didn't really care about them. I, I did. However, I like Donovan because he was a Syracuse guy. I loved Vic when he was there.
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I did root for them in the super bowl against Brady just because it was fun seeing what Nick Foles was doing. But now they are. You know, you play my team in a couple Super Bowls, your fans regularly accost me on the street. And so I've been, you know, pretty ardently not a big fan of Philly and I think I've been fair in that. I mean, their team goes three and out more than any team in the NFL the last decade. They clearly have some issues. Can you believe that stat?
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Damanze
Yeah, that's, that's wild.
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Bucky Brooks
They have the highest three and out rate of any team in the NFL in the last 10 years.
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Damanze
Yeah, I mean, how are the Titans?
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Bucky Brooks
Right?
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So all of that, with that said, and maybe this is a little heart overhead, but I don't think so because the Eagles are favorites.
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I.
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I think the Eagles D line.
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Should be able to disrupt a battered Justin Herbert, assuming he plays enough that they can win that game with their defense alone, as bad as their offense has been. And man, oh man, do I need them to win that game now. We don't know. This is Monday doing this Thursday morning. They're not, we're not going to get a real update on Herbert probably until the weekend.
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If Trey Lance beats the Eagles, it. It's a five alarm fire in Philly and it's devastating for the Chiefs. And I like Trey Lance. Yeah, but, but. And you know, Harbaugh's got something cooked up ready for him too. Yeah, we saw him this offseason. All right, let's talk a little hall of Fame here.
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Damanze
Yeah, so we teased it on Tuesday. We ran out of time here. We're going to show the hall of Fame semifinalists who do you think is going to get in? Who are our picks this year?
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Bucky Brooks
All right, so let's do this and if you guys can keep a running tally in the dock, that would be helpful. Let's do this the way we did this before.
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Which is.
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First, let me tell the audience who are new to the ballot. First ballot possibilities are Breeze, Rivers, Frank Gore, Larry Fitzgerald and Jason Witt. Okay, now let me tell the audience who was on the ballot last year and made the semifinals last year. Okay? Or I'm sorry, last year was a finalist.
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So got close last year. Eli, Fred Taylor, Holt, Steve Smith, Reggie Wayne Vinitari, Willie Anderson, Jari Evans, Marshall Yonder, Keakley, Suggs, Darren Woodson.
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Now let me tell the audience folks that are semifinalists this year are not new to the ballot and were not finalists last year.
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Heinz Ward, Lomas Brown, Richmond Webb, Steve Wisniewski, Robert Mathis, Vince Wilfork, Kevin Williams, Rodney Harrison, Earl Thomas. Okay.
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We are going to snap do two things. We are going to snap say Breeze and Fitzgerald are in. So that's two of our five in. We are also going to snap say Rivers, Gore and Whitten are not going to be first ballot guys. This is their first time on the ballot. Any of those guys might eventually make it. They're not making it this year. So we're going to eliminate those guys. By eliminating those guys. I am also going to eliminate.
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Finalist from last year, Fred Taylor because I think Gore gets in before Fred Taylor. I think people think Gore had a better career than Fred Taylor. And if they're not going to put Gore and I don't think they're going to put him in, so he's out. I am also going to say that.
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Hines Ward.
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Who was not a finalist last year, Lomas Brown, Richmond Webb.
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Mathis, Will Fork Williams, Rodney Harrison and Earl Thomas. They didn't, they weren't finalists last year. I don't think in a stacked class they're going to go from final from not even a finalist to end. So they're out.
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So for three spots that then leaves us.
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Quarterback Eli Manning, wide receivers Tori Holt, Steve Smith, Reggie Wayne, kicker Adam Venateri.
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Offensive lineman Willie Anderson, Jari Evans, Marshall Yonder.
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Linebackers Keakley and Suggs and D back Darren Woodson. Okay, so there's that.
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I am.
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I don't, I don't necessarily. I don't think this is going to happen.
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But I do think when I'm looking at this, what would be kind of cool.
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Would be if they said.
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Venitari.
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Will fork Rodney Harrison.
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You guys are going to wait.
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And if you're going to get in, we're putting you in with Brady and kind of just having an entire class of the Patriots dynasty, I think that would be pretty cool. I don't think that's likely the way they're going to go.
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So of those guys that we have not yet eliminated, I am now going to take off. I'm going to eliminate Steve Smith because I just don't think he's better than these other guys. I'm going to eliminate Eli Manning because I don't think he was better than Philip Rivers.
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And that then leaves.
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Tori Holt, Reggie Wayne, Adam Venater, Terry, Willie Anderson, Jari Evans, Marshall Yonder, Luke Keighley, Terrell Suggs and Darren Woodson.
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I believe.
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And we already have Breeze and fits in. So we have three spots.
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I believe.
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Luke Keakley gets in.
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Just too high of a peak.
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And I think it's.
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Undeniable how great he was.
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I think they are going to want to put in.
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At least one offensive lineman.
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And I think it will be Willie Anderson.
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And in part that's because I don't think they want them all to be kind of relatively new.
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And then that would.
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And you know what.
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I think they are going to put Vinitarian with Brady. I think they're going to make him wait.
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I don't think they're going to put in multiple wide receivers. So Holt and Reggie Wayne are out. I don't think they're going to put in multiple offensive linemen. So that then means it comes down to Terrell Suggs and Darren Woodson.
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And I think that so Keakley is going to have. The argument of my peak was so insane. I played eight years. I was a five time first team all pro.
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Two time second team all pro and a defensive player of the year. I think Terrell Suggs, his argument would be I also was a defensive player of the year.
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I won a couple Super Bowls. I want it. Do I have it here how many total career sacks he had? I have 139 career sacks and I think that rather than directly compare the two, they put them both in.
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So Terrell Suggs. Sorry, Darren Woodson is not in. So Brees, Drew Brees, Larry Fitzgerald, Luke Keakley and Terrell Suggs along with offensive lineman Willie Anderson. That is my projection for this year's hall of Fame.
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I love doing this exercise. I'll never go 4 for 4 again. I also want to go ahead and plant my flag on I think it'd be pretty damn cool if.
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They could find a way to get a Patriots class. So the problem is going to be that Gronk is going to be eligible. Before Tom Gron's final year was 2021, Tom's final year was 2022.
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But if just maybe you could and Gronk deserves to be first ballot with a bullet. But Vince will fork Rodney Harrison are deserving at some point to be hall of Famers. Adam Venator, Terry at some point will get in. Gronk is eligible next year. If you could just tell Gronk wait one year and we're going to have the first ever one team class with Brady. That would be pretty sick.
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And just the Patriot dynasty sweep the board. I think that'd be pretty sick. We should put this on the Internet since Wilds is turning me back into a Patriots hater so all the Patriot fans know I respect what they did. I, I, I'm planning my flag on I came up with the idea convince Gronk that it's not an insult. He's not first ballot. He's going to have to wait one more one extra year and then everybody goes in with Tom.
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Gronk. Venateri will fork Rodney Brady and that's your hall of fame class in 2028. That'd be pretty sick.
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All right, so here's what we've got to do.
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Gotta do our gambling show. So we're gonna step aside. We're gonna end this show. We are. Then Damanze and I are gonna stay exactly where we are and we are going to bring you our red hot with teasers and with my picks week 14 gambling show. That's next. We will talk to you guys for that tomorrow. I'll see you guys on TV later today. Reminder to everybody like rate, subscribe, review to the channel. We greatly appreciate that and shout out to Blue Duck, shout out to Volume, shout out to Hard Rock, Bet Boost and of course our friends at Zen. Talk to you guys tomorrow for the Week 14 gambling show.
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