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Nick Wright
Welcome in Watch right with Nick Right Episode 356 this episode, as always, of what's Right with Nick Wright is brought to you by Boost Mobile. A ton to do today. It is officially, as we have said a few times, football season and the Cowboys once again in August have kind of hijacked the news cycle. But this one, I think now I think I know that I feel at least, pardon me, is a little different than the last couple years. We will explain why in a moment, but first, straight to voicemail. Brought to you once again by our friends at Boost Mobile, the Bills make their Hard Knocks debut. You know, to Monty, it's kind of a sad thing that's happened. I don't even. Hard Knocks is gone. I'm not trying, I'm not taking shots. The the Hard Knocks has gone from like, oh my God, appointment television to I don't even like, the Bills are one of the teams I'm most interested in and now it's just kind of like back burner. And maybe that's also a part of that is the way people consume media these days. I figure if there's anything really awesome. I'll find out about it the next day anyway and be able to go back and watch. But I Hard Knocks once Upon a time was one of my favorite shows ever and now there's a super interesting team that is the only real alleged rival of my team and I know nothing about episode one and so I.
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Damanze
Think they just chose the wrong team or something or.
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Nick Wright
No, that's my point. I don't think they could have picked a team other than Kansas City that I would be more interested in. And I'm still not watching it. I just think that there is now so much access and there's in season Hard Knocks offseason Hard Knocks that it maybe lost a little bit of its at least for me. They needed the flares. Maybe the wrong word, but exclusivity also. Antonio Pierce Life comes at you fast in the NFL. One week you've got the blueprint for stopping Mahomes, the next week you're wearing all Chiefs gear, walking down in St. Joseph, Missouri, hoping to get a job like such is life for a lot of former Raider coaches. You talk a lot of big game about beating the Chiefs. You're not able to beat the Chiefs. And then you say, hey, maybe you need a linebackers coach. And the NFL does not ban smelling salts. They banned the team providing smelling salts, which is odd, but it really seems like players were not going to have it like the that. Have you dimant, have you ever tried smelling salts?
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Damanze
Yeah, I've done. I've smelled them one time. I'm pretty sure like one time it was just like they were around really.
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Nick Wright
So. Yeah, I don't, I've never, I don't.
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Damanze
Think it was for.
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Nick Wright
I've never like it wasn't like at.
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Damanze
A game or anything. It was just like a try it.
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Nick Wright
You were like at a like a music festival or something and you like, you huffed the smelling salt to get going.
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Damanze
I mean, not to get going. Honestly just took it just to see what it like. I've always seen people's lives after they take that. I needed to see.
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Nick Wright
When I was like 10 or 11, I was having friends sleep over and one of my friends tried to like jump down the final few steps. Going into our basement, we kind of had a low overhang from the ceiling and he whacked his head on it bad. Bad enough that it like cracked the the plaster or whatever. And I he I think was pretending now that I look back on it 30 years later, to be unconscious. But I we were all freaked out and I remember vividly Going upstairs and getting just table salt and putting a handful of it and like holding it up to his nose. I was 10 years old, man. I know what I was doing. I just.
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Damanze
I. I thought you were going to say you actually found some smelling salts and you put. No, no, no, no.
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Nick Wright
I just. I was like, I thought smelling salt was smelling. I was killed. I was like, let me. Yeah, let me try to wake this kid up. All right. Reminder. The only place you're going to get stories like that from my childhood in Kansas City, Missouri is the what's right with Nick, Right podcast. Like Rate, subscribe, review and check us out on YouTube, iTunes, Spotify, all of that. Leave a review. It actually truly does help. I would not be having us lead with the Cowboys Demon Day if I thought what was going on was a bunch of nothing, but I don't think it's a bunch of nothing. So let's start there.
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Damanze
So the Micah Parsons trade request drama continues. Jerry Jones saying that Micah might not play week one or he doesn't even know if that's going to be happening. But the weird thing is Micah's already reported to camp, so he has to be playing. Is this just another maneuver by Jerry to make headlines?
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Nick Wright
No, I don't think it is. Now, Willie, or won't he play? Week one is interesting, and that is an important clarification. Micah gave up. People famously remember a couple years ago, Chris Jones sitting out week one, sitting in the luxury box with his agents, watching the Chiefs lose to the Lions. The NFL rules on this are very. They're very straightforward. If you never report to training camp, that is your right. And the only punitive measure the team can take against you is financial. 50,000 a day fines and then game checks if you miss games. But other than that, they can't suspend you because of it. They can't. Your contract doesn't toll because of it. And you in theory, could hold out all the way until the night before. I think it's week 10, then show up, play the rest of the year and get credit for a full season if you're willing to take the financial hit. That's if you never show up. If you do show up, you cannot leave. It's a weird thing when, if you show up and then leave, it's like the NFL version of going AWOL in the military. They give you a five day letter that says you got to show back up within five days and if you don't, then you are on ice for the year. They can't, even if they Say, all right, never mind, we're cool with it. Two weeks later, doesn't matter. You are. You're essentially a retired player for that season and your contract does not advance a year. So that's why nobody ever shows up and then leaves. You can't do it. That is so Micah by showing up. And then when Jerry says he might not play week one, all that means is that might. He thinks Micah might be like my back, but he can't not be there. He can just be like, I'm too injured to play. And the reason. So that I just kind of sets the template for where we are. I want to further flesh out how we got here because there is an element of this story that I think it's obviously been reported. It's how I know it. I'm not going to act like Damonte. It hasn't been reported, but I think it has been under. I don't think it's been focused on enough. And that is this. Jerry Jones has not had one single negotiation with Micah Parsons agent. I will say that again. Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys have not had a single negotiation with Micah Parsons agent. There is absolutely no justification for that whatsoever. Jerry has made it clear since Micah's trade demand he has not talked to Micah or his agent. There is absolutely no justification for that whatsoever. Jerry has made it clear he believes he and Micah came to terms on a deal. You guys know how I feel about that. That I think that holding a non negotiating party to a deal that was struck via handshake with a negotiating party is unethical. But even if you think that should be the framework of the deal, Jerry needs to communicate that to Micah's agent. And the fact that they will not negotiate. Even if we think it's a combination of, well, Jerry's being stubborn and thinks he and Micah have a handshake deal. And the fact that Jerry doesn't mind the Cowboys staying in the headlines so he'll just get this done in late August or early September like he did with Dak and cd. I think undersells the damage with Jerry's commentary the last week he has done to this relationship. Now, is it salvageable? Sure. But there's two prongs here that in my opinion are pretty clearly problematic. Prong one is even if it gets done on the timeline of Dakota, the night before the first game, Dak was in, was practicing, Dak was in doing all of the stuff to get ready for the season. Mike is out there just chilling. And if the cow like the Cowboys Play the freaking Philadelphia Eagles Week 1 if they have any hope of having a surprisingly great season that starts with a fast start with upsetting the Eagles in week one and you're off to the races. You're now obviously behind the eight ball on that. But the other I think, longer lasting concern is this is real damage to the trust and relationship you have between you and your best player. And no one has properly explained any justification for how Jerry's handled this. There is no go ahead.
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Damanze
Jerry needs to be talking to his agent. Is his agent reaching out to Jerry? Like, is Jerry?
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Nick Wright
Yes.
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Damanze
Like we won't talk?
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Nick Wright
No. So the, the 1053. The fan in Dallas yesterday reported that the agent reached out twice in the last 18 months and that the Cowboys won't call him.
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Damanze
Jerry's just saying we are and won't engage.
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Nick Wright
Say it again.
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Damanze
Jerry's just saying we already have it in writing.
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Nick Wright
No, not in writing. That we have, we have a handshake deal. They Jerry's saying it's not in writing, but we have it agreed upon. But here is the other problem with that. And I this is, you know, yesterday's price is not today's price. If you agreed to it in March and you think that's the deal you should have, that should have been done. You should have figured out a way to get it signed in March. But you also, Jerry know, here is the problem with Jerry's comment this week about I bought the Cowboys on a handshake deal 100%. That happens like big, high level business and real estate transactions and acquisitions and mergers. All this stuff that happens over a dinner or on the golf course. General framework, handshake all the time. But that is when both parties involved are there are their organization's lead negotiator and I the comp I used on TV yesterday that I was hesitant to use but because it has bad connotations. But I don't think anyone will misinterpret it. It's why if you're questioned by the police, you say, I don't want to talk to you. My lawyer's going to like, I, I pay this guy to do this for me. Now my lawyer cannot, you know, agree to a plea bargain without me signing off on it. I am the final yes or no. But I am not engaging with you professional interrogators or negotiators, you know, depending on the analogy you want to use when I'm not that. And so I do think like there is a lot of business that is done where you verbally in a meeting, agree to something and then you paper it later. But first of all, that has to involve the people who are supposed to be the ones negotiating. And second of all, that absolutely runs the risk of facts on the ground changing and a deal not being signed. And so I, I am listen, I have I like Micah. Full disclosure, I know Micah a little bit, but he hasn't been talking to me about his negotiation. But I've never disliked Jerry Jones. I have found him cartoonish at times. I a bit of a carnival barker. But I, I think he serves a purpose in the NFL. But this is ridiculous. And to just once again remind the audience of before we move on, the thing we did on Tuesday about this Micah's draft class the first overall pick, Trevor Lawrence got a contract extension top of the market. The fifth overall pick, Jamar Chase got a contract extension top of the market. The sixth overall pick, Jalen Waddle got a contract extension top of the market at the time for wide receiver twos. The seventh overall pick, Panay Sewell got a contract extension top of the market for offensive tackles. The eighth overall pick, J.C. horn and the ninth overall pick, Pat certain junior Pat Sartan. The second, pardon me, got contract extensions top of the market for their four corners. The 10th overall pick, Devontae Smith got a contract extension at the top of the wide receiver two market and the 13th overall pick, Rashawn Slater got a contract extension at the top of the tackle market. The top 13 picks from that draft four years ago have not gotten extensions. Or Zach Wilson, who's been on a bunch of teams. Trey Lance, who's been on a bunch of teams Kyle Pitts, who has underwhelmed Justin Fields who's been on a bunch of teams and Micah freaking Parsons. It's an outrage. And it's an outrage to not directly negotiate with Micah now. I mean with Micah's agent pardon me now if after directly negotiating with David Mulaguetta you then determine Micah wants 50 million a year with 200 million guaranteed, then you can break off negotiations. Then you can say too rich for our blood but to never negotiate with him and instead hide behind we came to a handshake deal in March is absolute nonsense.
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Damanze
As your I know you're trying to finish up as your likely maybe what if from Tuesday change with the with.
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Nick Wright
Is any I still think it's likely the Cowboys resign him but I now would say maybe maybe that he just plays out this year and the what if is what if they trade him and yeah and I saw the Aaron Donald if he got traded to the Rams, he'd come out of retirement thing. I don't think the Rams can make it work. But Micah Jared Verse and an out of retirement Aaron Donald be pretty sick. Yeah, then all of a sudden I wouldn't be so worried about Matt Stafford's back. All right, dog days of summer. Which means it's time for the boys of summer to kick it into gear. And the best way to cash in on your baseball IQ is with DraftKings Sportsbook. As the stretch drive begins, DraftKings Sportsbook has you covered with live betting on home run props, odds, boosts and more. Whether you're chasing dingers or jumping in mid game, there's always action to be had. Never been on baseball before. Simple pick a guy to go yard, hammer some live odds mid game, or just ride with your squad and hope for the best. No spreadsheets, just vibes and dingers. Sadly, the Royals are off today. Thankfully it's coming off a win. Can't get swept by the damn Boston Red Sox. Nice victory yesterday. Settled things a bit. Don't like losing to a three, but it's all right. You rally. Still alive for the wild card. So tonight, how about Paul Skeens and the Pirates on the money line against the Reds. Get Paul Skeens minus 176 or you can bet O' Neal Cruz did home run at plus 425. Even though they're not good, it's one of the more exciting teams. Uman Skeens is on the mound, obviously. Also get to watch o' Neill Cruz, of course. Lines and odds subject to change. Something special for first timers. New DraftKings customers bet five bucks. Get $200 in bonus bets instantly. Download DraftKings Sportsbook app and use code right. That's code right for new customers to get $200 in bonus bets instantly. When you bet just five bucks only on DraftKings, the crown is yours.
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Nick Wright
All right Damanze, let's get to Shador.
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Damanze
All right. One of the most highly anticipated preseason games since I've jumped on the football scene. Um, so picketing Gabriel are out. Flacco obviously isn't playing for the obvious, so it's Shadora's time to shine. He's getting he's going to play against Carolina tomorrow. Do you think that he has more to gain here or more to lose?
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Nick Wright
Oh, I think he has more to gain, but he has a lot to lose too. I think that what he has to gain is if he cooks and looks, you know, hand by cooks. He doesn't it's just handles the offense well, makes a couple nice throws, doesn't make avoids any horrific mistakes, you know, running around back and forth, taking a bad sack, fumbles, those things. And then after game two of the preseason when Dylan Gabriel will get to play if Gabriel struggles to me and I think Gabriel is likely to struggle. And again folks can say, Nick, this is your bias against small quarterbacks. And I would say that is correct. One of two things Damanze is likely to what I shouldn't say likely would have to happen if Shador plays well in preseason Game one and then Gabriel struggles in preseason game two. I would think one of these two things would happen. One, Shador would elevate past Gabriel on the depth chart, which is all he could hope for. His Shador's goal realistic goal was never be the week one starting quarterback. Maybe it was personally, but it was not it. You know, that shouldn't have been. I shouldn't. I don't care what his personal goal is. That's not a realistic goal for him to do as a 5th round pick with all those quarterbacks on the roster. A realistic goal, however, was when we break camp when preseason is over, I want to be the highest ranked rookie on the quarterback depth chart. I think that's very important. And because that means when the inevitable Flacco benching happens, he can get in there. So that should be his. That's what he can. That's one of the things he can gain. The other opportunity thing, and this might be a better opportunity, to be totally honest, is if he plays well and then Gabriel struggles in week two and he doesn't move up the depth chart. I wonder if another team calls Cleveland like, hey, you know, we'd be interested. You drafted him for a fifth, we'll give you a fourth. Like it didn't make sense for us a few months ago. And the team that I keep going back to, man, is the Rams. Because if Stafford's back really is a problem, you can't in my opinion go into a year with your only real backup quarterback being Garoppolo because he is himself such an injury risk. But the Rams wouldn't be the only team that I would think it would make sense. Now, obviously the Steelers didn't have interest in shooting.
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Damanze
Dolphins.
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Nick Wright
The Dolphins, I feel like I was thinking more a team that is not looking at him for this year, but might look for him long term. Dolphins, they brought in Zach Wilson, so you know what I mean? Like they. But that's not a bad one. I'm the, the reason I said the Rams is they might have a need for spot starter this year, but also this could be Stafford's last year last.
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Damanze
Right.
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Nick Wright
You know what I mean? So like that to me is an interesting one. And I don't know if there aren't again, it's not a lot of obvious places the Cardinals, I feel like should.
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Damanze
Be looking for other options.
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Nick Wright
Oh, that's interesting. Look, I, I gotta look and see who the Cardinals backup quarterback is. I don't remember that. Oh, it's Jacoby. So yeah, I mean that's Not a terrible one either. If I were Shador, however, I don't think not that he would necessarily have a say. I wouldn't love if the Cardinals traded for me because the Cardinals hope is that Kyler is their guy for the next five years. Like the Browns are not a terrible spot for him in as much as they have no future plan. The Rams would not be a terrible spot because they have this great head coach, but an old banged up quarterback. It's the same reason a lot of people thought the Steelers in theory could sign Rogers and still draft Shador like, you know, more as a long term piece. And so that is what he has to gain. Here's what he has to lose though, pal. If he plays poorly, he is fourth string and he's going to stay there for the time being. And you don't rise up from fourth string your rookie year ever. And so this is, listen, this is pro sports. He everything. And this is a point Danny made yesterday on the TV show that came across as harsh but is correct. Shador did not earn starting the first preseason game. Now he has handled himself really well. He is, I think practiced well. That's at least according to the reports. But the Browns still have him listed as their fourth string quarterback. He is starting because their first string quarterbacks, 40, their second string quarterbacks injured and their third string quarterbacks injured. So this isn't an instance of, you know, rapid ascent. This is an instance of everything falling just right to give you this opportunity. And that can be a blessing or a curse, man, that can be damn straight. This is how I get out there and show them what I can do. And it also can be a shit. I needed another few weeks. I needed more training camp practices and now the image everyone's going to have of me is me.
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Damanze
But if Dylan does bad as well, like it's not like even if Shador does bad, like doesn't mean that Gabriel's going to do well. So I no, and I'm not saying Dylan Gabriel is going to do poorly, but it's like I just.
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Nick Wright
No, it's got to be. That's fair. But you've, you don't move if the third string and fourth string play poorly. You don't move up the fourth string. You know what I mean? So like the.
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Damanze
But just as far like as far as opportunity, like they wouldn't be looking to give him more shots.
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Nick Wright
I don't know. So here's the thing. Well, let me add one other thing then I'll answer that. If the other Thing that I think is likely to happen to Monza if Gabriel and Shador both play poorly is they're just more likely to keep picket and then. You know what I mean? And then there's more of a log jam. Like that's, that's the other kind of hang up here and so but then there I am not, I don't believe like the Browns are setting up Shador to fail or some of these kind of Colorado based conspiracies. I do think, however, there are some weird inter office politics going on about who wanted Gabriel, who wanted Shador and who gets credit for who is good. And so if it's if a lot of the speculation is true, which is the front office and coaching staff wanted Gabriel and the owner wanted Shador, does it behoove the front office and coaching staff to be on like to be like well, the guy we wanted that we were, the football people that we evaluated, we were wrong. He's no yo. And so that part I think could potentially work against Shador a little bit. But if he's good, he's good. If he plays well, he plays well.
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Damanze
Think he should be conservative or like you think he should be flashy or no more of a conservative role.
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Nick Wright
No, the goal should be Martin Cabral. Zero mistakes. So it's got to just be zero mistakes. No delay games, no false starts. 180 no 12 men in the huddle. I the you know what I mean? Like and honestly in this, this setting, interception and interception is pretty low on the list of really problematic stuff. I would say like most problematic oddly is like can't get the play in, can't get guys lined up in time. You know the pre snap stuff is the stuff he's got it. Second most problematic, holding onto the ball way too long, taking bad sacks. Third most problematic is trying to make a play with your legs and fumbling. And then the next problematic is interception because young quarterback, you know, not on the same page with receivers, whatever that's going to happen. The I mean you obviously hope it doesn't but that that can happen. It's the other stuff that they're going to want to be really tight on. I also hope, I hope he gets three full quarters. There's no reason he can't. He can't play. Say it again.
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Damanze
Flacco probably want to play.
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Nick Wright
No, it would be Snoop Huntley.
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Damanze
Oh yes. Yeah.
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Nick Wright
The but there's no reason he can't get the workload that Trey Lance got right where. You know what I mean? Where he's Playing the majority of the game like he can, he can get that workload. All right, let's move on to the Chiefs.
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Damanze
So Mahomes came out and said, I'm going to do whatever it takes to win, whether that's passing for a lot of yards or, or not passing for a lot of yards. So we've seen Kansas City win in a number of different ways. How do you think that the offense or the Chiefs need to look in order to succeed this year?
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Nick Wright
Listen, I do think there's an element of they need to get their swagger back and pump the ball down the field. Now I, I think people need to remember how we got kind of to the point that we got to with this offense being the way it is. And I talked about this yesterday on TV, but I think it's worth revisiting. Three years ago, they're playing the number one defense in the NFL in the Super bowl they score 38 points without a single play longer than 25 yards. And the longest play of the game is a Mahomes scramble. The very next year they come back, they're in the super bowl having the offense having struggled all year long, receivers just openly revolting against Patrick in the Super Bowl. The biggest drive up to that point of Mahomes his life. 11 play, 64 yard, dink, dunk, dink, dunk, field goal. And then in overtime, one of the greatest drives in NFL history. 13 play, 75 yard drive where the longest play once again is a Mahomes scramble. Dink, dunk, dink, dunk. No big explosives. And then last year, offense just eking along and pulling games out of the fire. So why am I saying when they gone super bowl win, super bowl win, super bowl loss. After being 17 and one going into the super bowl with Mahomes as a starter. Because I think one of the reasons Patrick started to press early in that super bowl demons A is because being down 14 for last year's Chiefs felt so different than any of the previous year. Chiefs down 14 three years ago was okay, we can start playing now. Down 10 in every super bowl they've ever played in. Take the lead back in a heartbeat. And so because it was so death by a thousand cuts, I they felt they needed to. I think Patrick felt like, man, we better score right? Because we don't have this one playability. So I think they need to get that back. And I think the better offensive line, hopefully healthier receivers. Even though Rashid is now dealing with a groin. Hollywood Brown still out with an ankle. That's not great. That should help that I also saw there's an unbelievable stat courtesy an unbelievable stat courtesy of Warren Sharp that I would like to go over for a moment but so quarterbacks record when trailing entering the fourth quarter over the last five years. Let me give you the top three from three to one. Damon say in third place best record when trailing entering the fourth last five years. Okay. Jalen hurts eight and 14 so that's pretty good. I mean it's third best it that so 36% of the time the Eagles are trailing going into the fourth. They win anyway when Jalen starts second place Lamar Jackson 7 and 10 41% of the time. So that's almost half the time bro that the Ravens are trailing entering the fourth they win when Lamar is the quarterback. So third place is 36% Jalen. Second place is 41% Lamar. This again courtesy Warren Sharp. First place record the last five years when trailing entering the fourth quarter. Patrick Mahomes, 14 and 7, 67%. That means the Chiefs would be an 1112 win team if every game they trailed going into the fourth quarter. And the other like CJ demands A is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. He's eighth on this list. 2 and 10, 20% Josh Allen is above average 3 and 14, 18% Joe Burrow 4 and 23 15% Brock Purdy 1 in 10, 9% like so I say that for this reason it's understandable that the Chiefs kind of carry themselves like ah, we'll figure it out. But it's harder to do that after you just got your teeth kicked in in the Super Bowl.
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Damanze
Yeah.
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Nick Wright
And that is they need to.
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Damanze
Come.
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Nick Wright
They need to go ahead. Yeah. And I and I think Josh Simmons, the rookie left tackle and Xavier Worthy's ascension is going to help that quite a bit. By the way, late the Madden ratings for this year, Xavier Worthy a higher rating than Marvin Harrison Jr. And Roma Dunes two top 10 now just barely but still like that is the highest rated. Rookie receivers were neighbors then Brian Thomas than Xavier Worthy. So yeah, I do think they need to bring back, as Brew would call it, the light show a bit and I'm optimistic that they can. All right, let's talk a little more Chiefs where we get some other stuff.
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Damanze
Andy Reid's been hyping up your guy Travis Kelsey. He's saying that he's calling him, he's calling him svelte, saying he looks 20, he's all slender. A year ago you said Travis Kelsey's got about eight more good games in him Great games. Great games. Not good. Sorry. Got eight great games left in him. Has that number changed since? Like, what would he have now at this time?
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Nick Wright
Well, so this year. Yeah. So I, I felt he, I thought he used a couple last year. Certainly the playoff game against Houston Texans.
- [42:45]
Damanze
Yeah.
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Nick Wright
Was peak. Travis and I also thought he left a lot out on the field the Christmas Day game against Pittsburgh, that if they knew they won, they were going to get the long rest that they all desperately needed. Now, those aren't the only big games he had all year, but some of the other big games yet I just thought were, you know, the teams not being able to deal with him or, you know, the. How the game plan filled up. So again, Swifties, please, because I got absolutely crushed for this take last year because people misunderstood what I was saying. I think when you are Travis's age at that position, you have to be very diligent about when you go full throttle. And I think he knows that he only has so many full throttle games left. Now do I think the added chip on his shoulder for the fact that he didn't play up to his standard, he said last year, and the way they got their ass kicked in the super bowl and the fact that he shed some weight, had probably a better off season, maybe replenish some of those games, that game count? Yeah. I've got to see him in week one to give this a real answer, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say this. I think Travis this year will once again be one of the three most impactful players in his position. I think Travis and Brock Bowers and then maybe Kittle, maybe La Porta, maybe the kid in Arizona are the other candidates. But I think Travis and Brock Bowers are going to be up there and I think Travis is, especially because teams are going to have to respect the deep ball more this year. He's going to have a lot more room to work with over that intermediate middle where he wants to. All right, this is a message that applies to 99% of you listening right now, because that's how many of you can be covered by fast, reliable service on the Boost mobile network with 99% nationwide coverage. And if you don't think you deserve a deal, listen up. You got another thing coming. Why would you not think you deserve a deal right now? When you switch to Boost Mobile, you can get iPhone 15 with Dynamic island and a 48 megapixel main camera for 149.99. That's $149.99 for iPhone 15 on a nationwide network. I'm 99% positive boost mobile just gave all of us a really good freaking deal in store offer only $35 device setup fee may apply. Requires credit, qualification, ID verification and activation on 6 hour plan taxes extra 5G speeds not available in all areas.
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- [47:52]
Nick Wright
All right, Damanze, let's get to Travis Hunter.
- [47:55]
Damanze
So Travis Hunter is listed as the starting wide receiver and backup cornerback playing both ways in practice. And head coach Liam Cohen actually came out and told Rich Eisen he thinks it's possible that Hunter wins the Offensive and Defensive Rookie of the Year. So my question to you is, which bet do you like the most? He's the Defensive Rookie of the year is at plus 800. Offensive rookie of the year is at plus a thousand. Either defensive rookie of the Year or Offensive Rookie of the year plus 42025 and both is at plus 10,000.
- [48:26]
Nick Wright
Okay, so here's what I would ask and see if we can find this our Wonderful Producers on DraftKings. What is his NFL MVP odds? Because here's the only reason I asked that if he wins, I do not. Let me put this on the front end I do not think he's going to be league mvp. I do not think he's going to win offensive and defensive rookie of the Year. I want to make that clear. But if he were to win offensive and defensive rookie of the Year, I think he's got to be in real consideration for league MVP. So like if, if the bet is offensive so plus 30,000 so he's plus 10. So you get three times better odds on him to be league MVP than you do on him to an offensive and defensive rookie of the Year simultaneously. And I'm just telling you, man, if he were to have the type of season where he wins Offensive and defensive rookie of the Year, he's going to be a real MVP candidate. Like the so how many what was Brian Thomas Jr's numbers last year? And I don't even think he who was the offensive? Oh, Jaden of course was offensive rookie of the Year, but Brian Thomas Jr. Came closest of any of the receivers. So he had 1300 yards basically in 10 touchdowns. And then Jared Verse I think was defensive rookie of the Year. Not I think I know because that was one of our preseason bets. And Jared Verse last year had four and a half sacks, two forced fumbles, two fumble recoveries, 65 tackles. I mean if the guy throw, if he were to throw up a and I guess that's a bad comp because versus pass rusher. So his stats are going to be different. My answer to this question, by the way, is defensive rookie of the Year because Greg Jennings pointed this out and he's not wrong. It's very difficult for receiver to win offensive rookie of the Year if you're not your team's number one option. And Brian Thomas Jr. Will be the number one option. He'll be a strong two but it's just is he going to get the volume, you know, of numbers? I mean Randy did it with Chris Carter on the team, but that year, as great as cece was, Randy was the number one option. Randy was just, you know, came in and totally changed the Vikings lives. I here is to me though why I like this story. Oh, thank you. And sauce when he won defensive rookie of the Year had wow, only two picks. That surprises me. But obviously was awesome. Was all pro as a rookie. I'm pretty sure he was all Pros rookie regardless.
- [51:54]
Damanze
75 tackles.
- [51:57]
Nick Wright
The no, I mean Sauce is great player. 75 tackles, 20 pass breakups. Yeah, I mean that's an amazing season. Here's to me though why I liked what Liam Cohen said it means to Monze they're going to give this kid a chance to go both ways for real. And I just want to see it, that's all. I just don't want a false ceiling on what he can do. Now. Maybe it. The downside is you just have to parrot back a bit. The upside is he changes the way your team can be run. Like, that's the. That to me, prematurely going out and being like, listen, he's only playing in spots on defense and. Or vice versa would just be silly. I understand folks talking about he's got a tackle, he's got a cover going to run nine routes. It's not the Big 12 anymore. I get all of that, but every coach that's ever been around this player has said he is literally built differently. So give him a try. Like. And I think the Jags are going to. And it's one of the reasons. You know what I'm starting to think Demons A. Everybody is going to have a bunch of, you know, AFC north, you have the Ravens, you have the Bengals, you have the Steelers with Rogers. AFC west, you have the Chiefs and the Broncos and the Chargers. Like, everybody is going to have one playoff team out of the east and one playoff team out of the South. I think we could have two playoff teams from the South. I think the Texans and the Jags might end up being able to come out of the South. The Jags with a nice little resurgent Trevor Lawrence year. The Texans with maybe the best defense in football. Like, I think. I just think there is. There's something there. That's all.
- [54:17]
Damanze
We need Trevor to come.
- [54:18]
Nick Wright
There's something there. I. You ain't lying, bro.
- [54:21]
Damanze
We need Trevor to come.
- [54:22]
Nick Wright
You ain't lying. It's a big year for my guy and de facto a big year for me. All right, let's talk Matt Stafford.
- [54:30]
Damanze
Stafford is dealing with an aggravated disc and has been taken or has been getting epidurals. You said the Rams don't work without Stafford. With that said, is this team going to be a stay away for you as far as betting with this whole injury?
- [54:43]
Nick Wright
Wow. Right now I'm staying away. I need to see. You know, talk to me in three weeks. Here's the deal. Here is my glass way too full. Oh. Texans and Jags both make the playoffs. Plus 395. Intriguing. Interesting. Very, very interesting. What are the Jags to win the.
- [55:12]
Damanze
Division, like 600 or something like that?
- [55:15]
Nick Wright
No, no.
- [55:16]
Damanze
Plus 300. It's like plus 300 or 350. One of them. It's either plus 300. Plus 350.
- [55:22]
Nick Wright
All right. Believe it or not, when I was, I was not asking you, like to just guess off the top of your head from memory, plus 290. But you, you. Yeah, plus 300. Plus 290. Maybe we moved it already just that quick. But. Okay. All right. These are things to consider now when it comes to the Rams. Yeah. Right now they're a stay away because the Stafford stuff here is the probably overly optimistic view. The Rams are actually, unlike most teams that undersell injuries, the Rams are overselling this because he's actually mostly fine, but part of their negotiation. Remember, he thought he might be traded and they will give you a little more money and you don't got to do traders show up in September. You know what I mean?
- [56:23]
Damanze
I said this like two weeks ago and you were like, no, I, I hope that's the case, I think is what you said. But yeah, yeah.
- [56:30]
Nick Wright
So I think it's, I think it's on the board and it's like, well, I'm the team leader. Like, I, you know, I don't want to not be. It's like, all right, we'll make up a back injury. Like, that's the hope. That's the hope. It also doesn't help that I just can't take these NFL insiders, a lot of them. I don't know what the real injury report is. I'm going to be the only person that cares about this, but I care about this. Fourth of July, Najee Harris, Chargers running back is in a fireworks incident. Okay. The local newspaper in Los Angeles or some local paper reports, hey, this is bad, man. This guy like messed up his eyes badly. The. Then all of a sudden the insiders parachute in and say, oh, no, no, no, no, don't you worry. Talk to the agent minor, no big deal, escaped major injury. Well, it's August 7th and Harbaugh can give us no update on him whatsoever. So, like, I don't. There is so much, much manicuring of injury. Every surgery went better than expected. Every, every injury is reported as, what a relief. He's only going to be out four to six weeks. Everything is just put in such rose colored glasses because so much of this is just relationship building with agents that I don't know what real injury news is. So when I hear Stafford, they're like, oh, the team's not worried. He'll be ready by week one. I have no idea if that's true. I just have none. So it could be hugely concerning. Also, maybe it's. He's just chilling. Maybe he's just. He and his wife are developing next podcast product project. I don't know. I hope he's just chilling because I.
- [58:50]
Damanze
Like Stafford also with it like he just got his. His big new contract with him. Right. It was like.
- [58:57]
Nick Wright
Yeah.
- [58:57]
Damanze
Was that over like the last three or four? So. Yeah.
- [58:59]
Nick Wright
Well, no, he got, he got a contract.
- [59:02]
Damanze
This is like a month ago.
- [59:03]
Nick Wright
A month and a half ago. Yeah. This summer. Exactly. He got an adjustment this summer.
- [59:08]
Damanze
Yeah. And like the, the disc like that thing had to be been lingering and I just don't think they would have.
- [59:13]
Nick Wright
Well, he's had. He's had a back stuff for a while. Yeah. So I don't know, man. But the. The short too long didn't read is yes, I'm concerned but I'm opt. You know, I'm hopeful you have a follow up here.
- [59:25]
Damanze
Yeah. So you talked about them trading for Shador. Do you think that they're a candidate to go after someone like Kirk Cousins if this goes left?
- [59:32]
Nick Wright
No, because at this point, Jimmy Garoppolo, Kirk Cousins, tomato, tomato. You know what I mean? Like they already have Jimmy G there and I think Kirk is an injury concern in a different way. So I don't, you know, I don't think that's the way they would go. All right. I want to power rank coaches and fights but before I do that, I want to. I'll take care of this part. Demons A. I'm not going to ask you to read this. I just want to say something to the dumbest people in the world. Stop throwing shit on the court at WNBA games. And I'm not a prude, but this is objectively fucking horrifying. Like what if we really like oh Nick it. Fun's fun. It. If you really just peel back a quarter of a layer. What why you're throwing that at those women in that league. It's just it's the type of shit that would get eyes rolled by high school juniors. And now it's happened three times. I am not going to overstate the danger of it. I don't think you could do real injury, but it would certainly hurt getting hit. But more importantly, Daman say, as one of my favorite sayings goes, we live in a society like can we all just recognize a certain level of human adult decency? Well, these and not do like this.
- [61:29]
Damanze
I think these are kids is the. I think that I got. I got. They showed me a picture of the last guy that did it. I think that guy's like 18 maybe.
- [61:39]
Nick Wright
Okay, maybe like 8. I'm here to tell you, buddy.
- [61:43]
Damanze
No, I'm not.
- [61:44]
Nick Wright
Hold on, hold on.
- [61:45]
Damanze
I'm not excusing anything, but it's like you're like, grow up. These aren't like 25, 30 year old people going in there. These are the type of people expect.
- [61:54]
Nick Wright
Sure, I feel like I understand that. I get that. And I. Here's the. I guess maybe the more refined take. I feel less strongly about this. If there were 18 year olds doing this across sports, just watching Mets, Phillies and you know what I mean, down the third baseline, this pops up, you know what I mean? Or we're watching Pacers, Knicks and it's like stop the game. I know that once upon a time I think it happened like in Buffalo, like a snowstorm or something. I feel like I vaguely remember it a few years ago, but it just feels targeted. And throwing sex toys on the court in that league with that gender and sexual orientation demographics of the league, I just find to be extra objectionable. And I will add as far as the 18 year old piece of it, you did a lot of dumb shit as a teenager. There is nothing you did that would have made me as mad as this would have. Think of your worst five transgressions and my reaction to it. I promise you, if I had gotten the phone call, I got arrested. For what? Whatever they called it. Disturbing the peace. What'd you do? Well, I was at the Fever game and dot dot dot I might have left you in there. I might have been like, you know what? Figure it out. Like that is just.
- [63:56]
Damanze
Yeah, I.
- [63:58]
Nick Wright
Okay. All right. Real. Now let's get to ask me the so Mike Vrabel.
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Nick Wright
Let's. Let's do this together real quick before we go. Vrabel got in the, like, tried to break up a training camp fight. Got his face bloodied. So top of the head.
- [66:00]
Damanze
That's another rule. Like that. You got to throw that in. You said there are like three rules. I think the fourth rule is the coach cannot jump in and like try to stop the fight.
- [66:08]
Nick Wright
Well, if you're a former player, you can. I think.
- [66:11]
Damanze
Okay.
- [66:11]
Nick Wright
You're foreign player in the shape that he's in.
- [66:13]
Damanze
Fair enough. I mean.
- [66:18]
Nick Wright
All right. I'm tr. I want to. All right. List of current NFL head coaches. I wish I could sort by age, but so is the number one coach. Battle royale. If they're all NFL head coach fight to the death. And I'm trying to figure out. I like, I'm. I know who the last draft pick is. I know that.
- [66:50]
Damanze
Who knew? Is it.
- [66:53]
Nick Wright
I don't want to pick on the guy, but it's Mike McDaniel.
- [66:56]
Damanze
Oh, geez. He's.
- [66:58]
Nick Wright
He's the last draft pick. Mike McDaniel's our last pick of that draft. I mean, he just. And the. I mean, there's a few. Dave, Zach Taylor, Ben Johnson. Those guys are not doing.
- [67:16]
Damanze
I feel like Ben Johnson can get in there. He must be a smaller guy.
- [67:22]
Nick Wright
Oh, maybe. I guess he's 6 1. Maybe he's bigger than I thought. But I don't want to do the bottom of the draft.
- [67:28]
Damanze
Okay.
- [67:29]
Nick Wright
I want to do number one draft pick Dan Campbell actually over variable third.
- [67:38]
Damanze
Yeah.
- [67:39]
Nick Wright
There. Yeah. I think I. This is. I. I think. I think we have a pretty strong top three. I think we are going number one draft pick. You know what? It. It's between two guys. Campbell to me is a clear third. It's either Vrabel or d'. Amico.
- [68:03]
Damanze
Oh.
- [68:03]
Nick Wright
As number one.
- [68:05]
Damanze
Yeah.
- [68:05]
Nick Wright
I just feel like Vrabel is fought more in his life than Dico. So I'm go. He's got all those sons. They're big. I like I. So I'm going number one. Vrabel Number two, demo. Number three, Dan Campbell. Dude. And what. What are you laughing about? What are you laughing about? I don't even know what you're laughing, dude.
- [68:29]
Damanze
This guy says Daniel. I mean, not Daniel, but Andy. Re. No. D. I don't know if I was to say this, but Andy Reid with a cheeseburg on the line.
- [68:37]
Nick Wright
Oh, that's pretty good. Andy. Listen, Andy's. Even though he's old, Andy's a. Like, he's not a top three or a top five pick, but Andy, you saw he was ready to fight Travis. Like, Andy's not. Andy's not screwing around. All right, so there's my top three. We're going Brable d'. Amico. Dan Campbell. Number four. I'm going Dan Quinn, head coach of the Commanders. Big dude.
- [69:11]
Damanze
Yeah.
- [69:13]
Nick Wright
Number five.
- [69:16]
Damanze
Where's Tomlin at? Is he like, six?
- [69:20]
Nick Wright
Not as high as you'd think. He. I mean, he's going to show up.
- [69:24]
Damanze
Oh, honestly. Oh, yeah.
- [69:26]
Nick Wright
But, like, McVeigh, though, is not that big. He's jacked, but not that big. I'm going, so number five. I had someone. Oh, yeah, I know who. I'm going number five, because I think he'd fight dirty. I think he's.
- [69:47]
Damanze
Dirty.
- [69:48]
Nick Wright
Oh, yeah.
- [69:49]
Damanze
Can I take a guess?
- [69:50]
Nick Wright
He's nuts. I think that, like, he could have, you know, suffer a traumatic injury and just keep going. I'm going Jim Harbaugh.
- [70:02]
Damanze
God, I was about to say one of the Harbaughs. Yeah. 100%.
- [70:05]
Nick Wright
Yeah. No, I'm going, Jim.
- [70:06]
Damanze
Gouge you in the eye.
- [70:07]
Nick Wright
I'm going. I'm going, Jim. Yeah, now it's six. Now I'll start to listen to Tomlin. I.
- [70:18]
Damanze
I am too old.
- [70:20]
Nick Wright
Oh, Todd Bowles.
- [70:22]
Damanze
Todd Bowles beat somebody's ass.
- [70:24]
Nick Wright
Yeah. Todd Bowles has whooped some ass in his life. I don't care that he's 60. Todd. Yes. Todd Bowles is six. Tomlin is seven. And now once I get there, I'm taking a long, hard look at Andy. I. The. Like, I'm taking a real look at Andy Reid. I think I'm going Andy, eight. The thing about John Harbaugh, sneaky old John Harbor Harbaugh, 61. You know what? I'm going Andy, 8. Kevin O' Connell's Young and really big, but feels like not a fighter. Dable, I'm certain, has been in some scuffles, but obviously, Sirianni fights. I still fights. I mean, you don't. You don't walk around for 40 years with that personality and not getting I mean, that guy's got in some fights.
- [71:43]
Damanze
Yeah.
- [71:44]
Nick Wright
I gotta tell you, another guy who again, is not going to be a high draft pick, but would, you know, wouldn't stop coming. And that's the oldest coach in the NFL, Pete Carroll.
- [71:56]
Damanze
Pete Carroll.
- [71:57]
Nick Wright
Pete Carroll wants to mix it up, but there it is. There's my list. You don't have to go through anymore. I think, I think that was good. But it is a very strong top three. It's a very strong top three. All right, reminder everybody, like rate, subscribe review to the podcast. We appreciate you guys who watch on YouTube, listen on Spotify, listen on itunes. Let's, let's roll through a couple listener questions before we get out of here, pal.
- [72:31]
Damanze
W asks, why is Stafford so highly regarded? He's never made an all pro team, has a career losing record, only two Pro Bowls, a 91 career quarterback rating in the passing era, and a 500 playoff record. Jeez, this guy does not like.
- [72:45]
Nick Wright
So I listen, I think that it's a combination of number one draft pick who had like individual super high highs. Instantly. His third year in the league, his first year as a full time starter, he threw for 5,000 yards, 40 touchdowns, 16 picks. So it was like, bam. You know what I mean? So I think, I think when you're number one draft pick and your first real chance as a starter, you pop like that, people are like, holy shit. So I think that, I then think the fact that people felt like, man, if only he could get out of Detroit, wonder what would happen. And then he got out of Detroit and instantly won the super bowl. So that. You know what I mean? So it's big, strong, huge arm, talent was a big what if. And then when the what if actually played out, he kicked ass in the playoffs with the Rams. It's not only his 5 and 2, he has a 109 rating, 15 touchdowns, three picks beat Brady. Like, you know, so I understand the raw numbers haven't always been there, but I think combination of eye test, draft pedigree, super high highs, all of it. All right, let's go to Ben.
- [74:09]
Damanze
Ben asks, what was your best and worst bet from last year?
- [74:13]
Nick Wright
Worst bet? Best bet was Broncos over five and a half. They ended up making the playoffs. Worst bet was Steelers miss everything. And I tied that into a bunch of stuff, you know what I mean? So that one's, that one's pretty easy. The. All right, let's go to Danny.
- [74:35]
Damanze
Danny asks, what's your favorite pre Mahomes era Chiefs moment?
- [74:42]
Nick Wright
About 10 Jamal Charles games. Jamal was my favorite player ever before Patrick and Travis and I mean Jamal. Jamal had like a five touchdown game against the Broncos. That was sick. He a bunch of Jamal Charles moments. Dorian says new nickname is Nick. We live in a society. Right.
- [75:04]
Damanze
I like that.
- [75:04]
Nick Wright
All right, thank you to boost to DraftKings to volume to Blue Duck. To all of you guys for listening and for Mike Vrabel for giving us that great content at the end of the show. See you guys on Tuesday.
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