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iHeart Podcast
This is an iHeart podcast.
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Manny
Why are TSA rules so confusing?
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Noah
You got a hoodie on. Take it all.
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Manny
I'm Manny. I'm Noah.
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Devin
This is Devin.
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Manny
And we're best friends and journalists with a new podcast called no Such Thing where we get to the bottom of questions like that. Why are you screaming? Well, I can't expect what to do now if the rule was the same, go off on me. I deserve it, you know.
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Noah
Lock him up.
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Manny
Listen to no Such thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Noah
No Such Thing.
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A.J. Jacobs
Let's start with a quick puzzle. The answer is Ken Jennings appearance on the puzzler with A.J. jacobs. The question is, what is the most entertaining listening experience in podcast land? Jeopardy truthers believe in?
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Freddy
I guess they would be conspiracy theorists.
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A.J. Jacobs
That's right.
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Noah
They gave you the answers and you still blew it.
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A.J. Jacobs
The puzzler. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Freddy
We're breaking down SummerSlam, the biggest party of the summer on Wrestling with Freddy. From our bold picks to storyline breakdowns, we will discuss who walks out with gold, who shocks the night and which matches steal the show we call the winners, the upsets and the chaos to expect. Plus whatever swerves nobody saw coming. Listen to Wrestling with Freddie as part of the Michael Tura Podcast Network. Available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Unknown
Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club San Diego.
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iHeart Podcast
Coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team.
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Noah
We need to embrace this community.
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Unknown
Listen to San Diego FC behind the Flow on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Noah
Welcome in episode 355 of what's Right with Nick Wright. And as always, this episode is brought to you by our friends at Boost Mobile. So much to do. Amazing weekend. I wasn't able to say what I was doing beforehand and I'm not able to say the results yet. But if you guys remember back in the day, the NBC Heads Up Poker Championship, 64 person March Madness style bracket that plays down six rounds to one champion, $25,000 a person entry, top prize. I think back then I don't know what it was. This time it was half a million bucks for top prize. Everyone in the sweet 16 got 25k, elite 8 got 75k, final 450k, second place quarter million, first place, half a million. I was in it and got the nut low draw. I had Chino Ream in the first round. If I were to win the first round, I was staring at either Eric Lindgren or Jason Coon. And in theory, it just got harder from there. But that's what I was doing this weekend. And it will air on Peacock in October and on Poker Go afterwards. And so once it air, like, no spoilers. It's like taping a season of Survivor except, you know, you know, either more cool or less cool, depending on what you like, where I know the results and I can't discuss them. And again, no spoilers. But if on, you know, on the next pod, I'm wearing a new watch, maybe I did well, what I will tell you is it was an unbelievable experience. I can't wait to really be able to talk about it. But that's what I was doing over the weekend. Here is another thing that happened over the weekend. Damanze. This is. This is. You'll love this. You'll love this. And the listeners should love this as well, I think. So I played in. Yeah, I think it's fair. The. I played in a pretty famous private card game in Vegas and I don't want to say whose it was because all of a sudden card games, they're getting, you know, just ask Gilbert Arenas. That can go sideways on you. This, of course, had none of those, you know, unsavory elements, but whatever it was some of the more famous card players in the world and there were two people there I didn't know, but were, you know, big time card players. And my first day there, after about 20 minutes, one of the guys came over to me and, and I'd love to say who these people were, but it's privacy and whatever, so I'm not going to. And he says, I want to show you something. And he opens up his podcast app. And the podcast he was listening to on the way in was you and me, our last episode from Thursday. And I was like, that is so cool.
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Devin
And this was on what day though? This, this is Friday.
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Noah
This was on Saturday night. Saturday night. Saturday night. He was listening to Thursday pod. Yeah. So cool. Then like two hours later, this British guy that I've been sitting next to for hours, he has a similar, he had a similar chain as me. And so we were talking about it and he had talked about where he got his and, you know, whatever. And I was saying, you know, hey, if you're ever in New York, like, I've got a pretty good connect. You know that? At least you know, because whenever you buy like a. Any diamond jewelry, unless you're a diamond expert, like, it's. You just risk getting totally scammed. You know what I mean? Like, are these real? Are they not? Am I, you know, are you saying they're vivi with this? I think it's that. Like, who the hell knows? And he was like. He's like, man, I really might take you up on that. He's like, I've had this forever. And then he just drops in. He's like, but I think your two chain thing looks so cool on the pod with Damanze. I'm like, I didn't even know he knew who I was. A dude that lives in England. But he's watching, so Shout out. So it made me feel great about the podcast. So that, that was awesome. And I, as always, I can't thank Brent Hanks, Jeff Platt, Maury and all the guys at Poker Go and the guys at Poker Stars, Gary Gates and such for getting me in the field. It was an invitational only field, so it was really, really awesome. And so really appreciate all those guys getting me in there. And in October, we'll be able to talk about it. Like, I didn't even Instagram or post that I was there because then people would be like, oh, how'd you do? And I'd be like, well, I can't tell you. And so. So I'll promote it when it's on. But it's. It's great. Curtis, by the way, says Nick crazy here. It's episode 355. I've been listening since episode one. We greatly, greatly appreciate that. And we. The other thing we'd appreciate is if you would like, rate, subscribe, review, get the alerts on YouTube, put some reviews in on itunes and Spotify. That would be wonderful. And subscribe there as well. All right, let's get to. Straight to voicemail. Brought to you by Boost Mobile. Game of the year is the first game of the year. And I'm not just saying this because it's on Fox, but one versus two Texas, Ohio State in August is pretty freaking sweet. The fact that August 30th, this month that we're in right now, you have a massive, massive college football game is sick. Darren Fox signs a max extension. I don't know about that one. That was. You have Castle, you have Harper, now you have Fox, who is a player I've always liked a lot, but Fox, it 60 some million a year. A little bit Under I. The question Daniel writes in the doc is is it because he's a trade piece? My question is, is he more or less tradable on this extension or was he more tradable on an expiring? I don't know. I like Fox a lot. But is Dear and Fox ever going to be a top 10 player? Obviously not. Is he clearly and unequivocally a top 20 player? Not clearly and unequivocally. He's like in the mix for that. So that just worries me a bit if I'm being totally honest. And Noah Lyle's quest to just being totally unlikable continued, you know what I mean, in full force. And the. Of course Kenny Bednarik shoved him because he ran into his lane. Like, I, I just don't get Lyles.
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Devin
I don't think there was some stuff going on between those two before the race.
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Noah
I agree. No, there clearly was. But you still can't cross over into the Dude's Lane. Ran 100 meters basically as fast as a human being can run it. You're not going to be able to throttle down immediately. Amazing weekend for track. 16 year old ran a minute 42 800. The 16. A 16 year old just ran a time in the 800 that would have won the college national championship last year. It is un. It's for the track nerds out there. They said it's one of another poker guy, Chris Brewer, who was a collegiate track guy, said it's one of the most impressive track accomplishments ever, what that guy did. And one other thing that didn't quite make the cut and I didn't want to do a full topic on it, but President Trump says Saquon Barkley's part of the President's Athleticism Council or whatever Saquon Barkley's like then afterwards is like, I am shocked. No, I am not. And I can't believe he would say that without talking to me. To which I would say this is why some of us kind of said, buddy, like you can say you're just, you know, you play golf with everybody and everything's fine and you don't have a take. But you know, you get in that orbit a bit and all of a sudden maybe you get, you get scammed a bit. I don't know. Just, just my take. I'm not that, I'm not that shocked that that went down that way. And Saquon, I think is too smart to where he shouldn't be that shocked either. Now to the biggest story in the sports World. The six quarterbacks on the Cleveland Browns. Let's get to it. Damanze. Yeah.
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Devin
So the Browns have officially released their quarterback hierarchy, and it goes as follows, with Flacco as number one, Pickett number two, Gabriel at number three, and Shador, your guy, at number four. And so there's. They're bringing in Snoop Huntley because of injuries to Gabriel and Pickett. You wanted to leave with the show with this. Why is that?
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Noah
Okay, so here is what is so interesting about where I have found myself with the Shador Sanders conversation. Before the draft, I was one of the biggest skeptics, if you remember. Like I. I said almost immediately that I did not think there was any real like, who which quarterback's going to go first overall debate. It was Cam Ward, clearly and unequivocally. I then also talked about how I thought there was a very real chance that the Pittsburgh Steelers would be able to draft Shador without trading up. In one of my very first mock drafts, back when Shador was mocked in going top five, I had him sliding all the way to Pittsburgh. Then when the. In. In the 20s, when the. This is all pre draft, when the reports came out that Pittsburgh was flatly just going with Aaron Rodgers, I said on the TV show and on this show, sorry, I just rolled over Dexter on the TV show and on this show that I thought it was a very real possibility Shador slid out of the first round entirely. And I was discussing how I did not think that was because of personality stuff. Now, maybe I was wrong about that, but I thought everyone was focused on Shador the person. When I thought Shador, the player just wasn't a dominant player the way some people thought he was. That was my pre draft take. My pre draft take is good. Not great athlete, not a super strong arm, you know, like that. I didn't know that he was a blue chipper. Those are still all my takes on Shador, by the way. But what's happened in Cleveland, he. He then ends up going to a team where the quarterback options are the second oldest quarterback in football, Joe Flacco, an injured first round bust in Kenny Pickett, a wee little fella in Dylan Gabriel, and him. And so the point I made on last week's pod was the only guy on the roster with actual upside, even if it's very small, is Shador. And since then, all Dylan Gabriel has done is have awful practice after awful practice where the beat writers covering the team are talking about how you almost feel badly for him and gotten hurt. Kenny Pickett has also gotten hurt. So here's why I want to talk about the Snoop Huntley thing. So the Browns play Friday night. It looks like demons a Pickett and Gabriel are not going to be able to play okay. So that those snaps are gone. Flaco's 100. I would imagine they never planned on him playing preseason game one. So the only quarterback they've got is is Shador. So if that's why they signed Snoop Huntley, just because they need ensure you know, you want to be able to run your offense even in the preseason game so other guys get reps and what if something happens to Shador or something like that? So be it. That's fine that there's no there's no issue with that. But Snoop Huntley should not be taking more than five practice snaps from Shador. And the plan for Friday should be whatever you want to do with Flacco, you do. Whether that's playing one series, whatever they Flacco's their starting quarterback and going to be their starting quarterback and they don't want to just punt the season before the season starts. And even though their depth chart have you seen like the Browns offensive depth chart is something to be you just stare at it. Right now it's Flacco at quarterback. David and Joku, who's a very nice player at tight end. Jerome Ford's their starting running back. Cedric Tillman, Jamari Thrash and Jerry Judy are their top three receivers with Deontay Johnson being their number four and an offensive line of Duan Jones, Joel Petonio, Ethan Pochic, Pachik, pardon me, Wyatt Teller and Jack Conklin as their offensive line. It's impossible. So we know they're going to be bad, but they don't want to say off the top they're going to be bad. So be it. So whatever you think you need to do to have Flacco ready, you do after that should or Sanders should play the entirety of that preseason game. If Gabriel and Pickett are hurt. There is no reason whatsoever on Friday for Snoop Huntley, who is right now the sixth quarterback on the Browns roster because DeSean's on the roster. I know he's not playing he for Snoop Huntley to get a single snap. And again, this is not a knock on Snoop Huntley, who sneakily has a Pro bowl to his name and started a playoff game for your Baltimore Ravens, you know, a couple years ago. And I, I, I'm glad Huntley's getting another look this I promise it's not an indictment on Snoop but you, this is the opportunity to see how Shador looks in a big sample against a live defense. And there are local Browns fans and media have gotten a little conspiratorial about, you know, what the team does and doesn't like about Shadors, whatever it is. And are they trying to kind of, you know, slow his progress? Is it weird? Because the coaches didn't want him but the owner did? I, you know, I don't know.
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Devin
You don't think they're getting ready to like trade them or anything? There's something, something lurking.
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Noah
Well, so if that's the case, then that's even more of a reason to showcase him.
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Devin
Right.
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Noah
Like, if here's one that I find interesting and that I think actually could be like a best case scenario for Shador. Best case, if I'm Shador, I am hoping beyond hope I get three quarters, maybe the whole game. Because if Flacco is not going to play, then Shador in theory should play the entire game. Yeah, that I look decent and that the Los Angeles Rams call the Browns and the Los Angeles Rams call the Browns so I can be their third string quarterback. As odd as that sounds. Sounds, because that's right, the Rams story right now is Matt Stafford's got a bad back and that is really concerning. And their backup quarterback, while a fine backup quarterback has his own injury concerns, which is Jimmy Garoppolo. If I'm Shador and I can't like getting to Los Angeles, no, there will be no media attention. Like should he be the starter? Staffords there. And for the Rams it gives you an a chance to maybe have a answer at quarterback even if it's a long shot. And again, I, I've never believed Shador is a sure fire NFL starter, but he's got a shot have an answer at quarterback after this year. If this does end up being Stafford's last year and maybe more importantly, not more importantly, but equally important as to why you would do this trade now rather than the off season, whatever it is, if Stafford, you know, isn't ready for the start of the season. Because yesterday McVeigh was talking about Stafford and he's like, he's doing some light cardio. He's walking around like what? Like that's, that's not great. So let's just say Stafford's not available the very beginning of the season and let's say Jimmy Garoppolo gets clocked during week one. Then all of a sudden you're staring at Stetson Bennett. And so like even if it's just a little short term gap starter and we saw McVeigh get Baker ready in one day for a start like he could have. So I do hope that be and if you're the Browns, if you spent a fifth on Shador and just trade him for a fourth, you won. It's like great job. That's great. Great process. You know what I mean with so but I say all that to say I am not a conspiracy theorist. But if we get this Browns practice report and Snoop Huntley was taking a lot of reps and on Sunday Shador plays a half and Snoop plays a half. That's my conspiracy theorist. At 10 a will pop up as Wilds does on TV because that makes no sense for anyone involved. For anyone involved. So that's why I wanted to lead with the Browns. I'm actually fascinated by it. We also the only other we the court. We don't really have quarterback competitions this year except for the saddest one ever in Indy with Anthony Richardson or Dan your guy, my guy Anthony Richardson and your guy Daniel Jones.
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Devin
So winning that battle right now I.
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Noah
Seems like, oh, the Saints as well. You know what I tend to forget the Saints are an NFL team this year and I think that one is sadder. By the way, you want to know an unbelievable fact that I want to make sure is a fact before I say it. So the Saints. Yeah, it is a fact and by a lot actually the Saints quarterback battle is Spencer Rattler, Jake Haner and their second round pick, Tyler Shuck.
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Devin
Oh yeah.
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Noah
Tyler Shuck who was their second round pick this year. Demons A you're going to laugh at this is eight months older than Trey Lance is. Think about that. He's eight months older than Trey Lance who by the way, shout out Trey hall of Fame game. Still though, he just needs to get you know like the he's it it. Trey just turned 25 so like he's been in the league forever. But again he's younger than us. A second round pick this year which is so weird. Also the Saints. What are you doing? The the Monze what year did you graduate high school?
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Devin
2017.
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Noah
So Tyler Schuck, who was the Saints draft pick this year, he graduated in 2018. He's won and he's just like he finished college four months ago. That's a long.
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Devin
That's as long. As long as it takes.
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Noah
Long college career. All right, we'll keep going. By the way, if you can't tell from the leading with the Browns and the Tyler Schuck Discussion in the A block. It is the dog days of summer, which means it's time for the boys of summer to kick it into gear. And the best way to cash in on your baseball IQ is with DraftKings Sportsbook stretch drive begins. DraftKings Sportsbook has you covered with live betting, home run props, odds, boosts and more. Whether you're chasing dingers or jumping in mid game, there's always action to be had. Never been on baseball before. Simple, pick a guy to go yard. Hamilton, hammer some live odds mid game or just ride with your squad and hope for the best. No spreadsheets, just vibes and dingers. Guys, I gotta, you know, I've got a lunch for the staff. Bet with Wilds on this Royals Red Sox series. The Red Sox won the first game, so I'm pot committed on the Royals on the money line tonight. Plus 200. Also, if you want to see make some home run bets. How about Bobby Witt did a home run or Salvi did a home run. That's plus 550 and plus 650 again, of course, lines an odd subject to change, but we are riding with the Royals tonight. Something special for first timers, new DraftKings customers. Oh, this has moved up. Bet $5. Get $200 in bonus bets instantly. Download the DraftKings sportsbook app now and use code right. That's code right. For new customers, get $200 in bonus bets instantly. When you bet just five bucks only on DraftKings, the crown is yours. Gambling problem. Call 1-800-Gambler in New York. Call 877-8-HOPE&WY or text Hopeny at 467-369-IN Connecticut. Help is available for problem gambling. Call 888-78977. Please play responsibly on behalf of Boot Hill Casino and resort in Kansas, 21 and over. Age and eligibility varies by jurisdiction. Void in Ontario. Bet must win to receive reward. Minimum minus 500 odds required.
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Manny
On an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this.
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Noah
Attention passengers. The pilot is having an emergency and we need someone, anyone, to land this plane.
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Manny
Think you could do it? It turns out that nearly 50 of men think that they could land the plane with the help of air traffic control.
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Noah
And they're saying like, okay, pull this.
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Manny
Until this. Pull that. Turn this. It's just I can do my eyes closed. I'm Manny.
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Noah
I'm Noah. This is Devin, and on our new.
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Manny
Show, no Such Thing, we get to the bottom of questions like these. Join us as we talk to the leader leading expert on overconfidence.
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Noah
Those who lack expertise lack the expertise they need to recognize that they lack expertise.
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Manny
And then as we try the whole thing out for real. Wait, what? Oh, that's the Runway. I'm looking at this thing.
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Noah
See?
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Manny
Listen to no Such thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Freddy
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A.J. Jacobs
Hello, puzzlers. Let's start with a quick puzzle. The answer is Ken Jennings appearance on the puzzler with A.J. jacobs. The question is, what is the most entertaining listening experience in podcast land? Jeopardy Truthers who say that you were given all the answers believe in.
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Freddy
I guess they would be conspiracy theorists.
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A.J. Jacobs
That's right. Are there Jeopardy Truthers? Are there people who say that it it was rigged?
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Freddy
Yeah, ever since I was first on.
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Noah
People are like, they gave you the answers, right? And then there's the other ones which are like they gave you the answers and you still blew it.
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A.J. Jacobs
Don't miss Jeopardy Legend Ken Jennings on our special game show week of the Puzzler podcast. The Puzzler is the best place to get your daily word puzzle fix. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Unknown
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San Diego coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team.
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Noah
We need veteran players and we need young players. Like, you're building a team from scratch. And so the succession plan of long term success needs to be defined. We need to embrace this community.
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iHeart Podcast
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Unknown
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Noah
All right, Damanze, let's get to the news that broke right as I got to Vegas, which is the Micah Parsons news.
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Devin
Micah Parsons officially requested her trade. It was on Friday, Saturday. And he. Unfortunately, I no longer want to be here. And Jerry followed it up with. I'm not in any way revising the mentality that I have about how I go about negotiations. What do you think about the drama in Dallas and Jerry.
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Noah
Yeah, here's the deal. I. I find the way Jerry tried to go about these negotiations, whether he meant to do it like this or not, but to be unethical, and I don't appreciate it. I think. I think that it is totally fine for a manager and employee to, you know, be having a conversation. Compensation or, you know, a contract or something comes up and they start discussing it. I think that's fine. And I think that if you're, you know, the. If you're. Micah, you're smart enough to know that if you weren't comfortable having any part of that conversation, that you can just say, hey, I'm not talking money here. That's what my agent's for. You know what I mean? And I think it's fine to try to work on a framework from those conversations. I think that is totally fine. And I think that it's even reasonable at times for. I think it's reasonable at times that you might actually come to a real agreement that it might be like, yeah, yo, you'll pay me that. That's what I want. That's what you want. Great. Sure. No problem. I think it is outrageous for the management side to think whatever is said in that setting is binding in any way, shape or form. I don't think it's outrageous for the player to think what the manager is offering is a real offer because that the. Jerry Jones is the person negotiating for the Cowboys. Micah Parsons is not the person negotiating for Micah. And so here is the way I understand it. This went. Jerry and Micah got together in March. Micah thought they were having a general meeting about team leadership. During that meeting, a potential contract came up. It seems like Jerry threw out a number or they had an idea. And Micah in the moment was like, yeah, sounds good. Yeah, that would work. Micah then went to his agent and his agent said, okay, that's fine, but I think we can do better. I think we will do better. They need to talk to me. And the Cowboys stance from that moment forward has been, we don't need to talk to you. We, we are not talking to you. We have an agreement in place that's un. That that's unethical. That is when you know someone has a professional that they pay massive amounts of money to negotiate for them. And it is outrageous to then assume any negotiation that is done with without that person's involvement is binding. And Jerry now saying, and there's another piece of this that I also really, really don't like, which is I do not view rookie contracts the way I view second contracts. So let me give you an example from my team and a guy that I love, Chris Jones. So Chris Jones had a rookie deal of let me, I want to. Four years, six million bucks, right? He then got franchise tagged and then they worked out a new deal. Four years, $80 million. Okay. During the, going into the final year of that deal, he wanted a new contract entirely. And the Chiefs made him an offer. They were, you know, they made him what they thought was a fair offer. He disagreed. That led to his holdout. Remember, he missed week one against the Lions. He's watching it from the box. And then they end up giving him a little extra money to make him happy. But not a new contract. Just a little slight bump in that final year. They held the line on what they thought was reasonable. And they never used these terms, but it was, listen, man, like we, we negotiated a four year deal. We're in year four. We are open to renegotiation, but if we need to have you play this out, we're okay with that. Because we, we agreed to this contract. That's not how the rookie contracts work at all. Rookie contracts, there is no negotiation. There is no agreement. There is no back and forth. You are drafted in a certain spot, you are slotted in that spot. It is a four year contract. If you're a first round pick, the team can then add a fifth year to it. That again, you have no say in. You have no ability to negotiate, to change to. I don't want to pick it up. So that is why every single first round pick from Micah's draft class that has performed at a high level has gotten their next deal because it's the first deal they actually get to negotiate and they have it is why again, whether you think it was, you know, some of these deals you might think was done by the team but Trevor Lawrence got a new deal after year three. Jamar Chase got a massive deal this summer. Jaylen Waddle got a new deal after year three. Panay se got a massive deal. JC Horn, Matt, top of market deal. Patrick Surtan top of market deal. Devonte Smith, great deal after year three. Ran Slater just got a top of market deal. That's everyone. So I just went over 10 guys taken in the top 13. Here are the people maybe it wasn't 10, but here are the top 13 picks from the 2021 draft who did not have not gotten huge second contracts. Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin Fields, Micah Parsons. It's outrageous.
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Devin
That puts it into perspective right there.
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Noah
Yeah, yeah. The guy so top 13 picks who from that draft class who who have gotten new deals. Oh, I apologize. I left one guy out. Kyle Pitts has not gotten one. Sorry, but that may again that so the ones who have gotten it. Let me do it again. Top 13 picks. Trevor got a deal. Jamar Chase, Jaylen Waddle, Panay Sewell, JC Horn, Pat Santan, Devonte Smith, Ran Slater. Those are the eight with new deals. Here are the five without them. Zach Wilson, who's on been on multiple teams. Trey Lance, who's been on multiple teams. Justin Fields, who's been on multiple teams. Kyle Pitts, who's shown flashes but hasn't, you know, achieved up to what people expected. And Micah freaking Parsons, who's the first player in NFL history to be top three defensive player of the year voting in each of his first three seasons. And for them to be holding him hostage based on we had an agreement in March is insane. And and Jerry I now do I think they're going to trade him? I do not. Do I think he ultimately will get paid? Yeah, probably do. I think this is going to be another year where Jerry, because of the way he does business, gets the headlines, gets the discussion and you know, and then it's much ado about nothing. Maybe. But it is not in anyone's interest for Micah to not be out there practicing. They have a new head coach. They, they are he's the best player on the team and this is not a in my opinion, I don't love in general, the honor the contract stuff in the NFL because teams obviously can cut players at any time. We are so ingrained in teams cutting players that when a new contract. Think about this is where the media can be unintentionally, a little insidious. Hold on one second. If you're watching on YouTube. Yeah, Dexter, you're blocking our Boost Mobile pillow. Hold on. You gotta move, Dex. There you go. People at Boost Mobile pay good money to sponsor this show and Dexter, you're laying up on their pillow. I'm back. The the way. Think about how when a new contract is signed in the NFL, it is framed. You'll hear this. So five year, $110 million deal with 45 million guaranteed and the team can get out of it after three years. The day it's signed, it's looked at as okay, it's five years. But really if, if it's not a good contract, when is the team able to cut ties? How quickly into it? Because we know that's how it works. So I'm not a huge fan of asking players to honor the contract anyway when that. Nobody gets mad when players get cut by teams, but it is particularly outrageous to ask players to honor a rookie contract that they did not get to negotiate, that they had no say in. And especially a first. If Micah was just a slightly worse college player, he would have already been paid because the Cowboys wouldn't have had a fifth year option on him and he wouldn't have been a first round pick. So I think he gets paid. Go ahead.
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Devin
Oh, because on the subject of fifth year options, do you think the fifth year options should be taken away? You make a pro ball or all pro.
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Noah
So it's interesting. I. I think that the idea behind the fifth year option in my opinion was. I'll give you a great example. You know who the fifth year option is really good for? Kyle Pitts. Because he has not achieved at the level they wanted him to. But he, they spin a top five pick on him and he has shown flashes and they don't want to, you know, just move on immediately. Right. So I think that that is a fair compromise in his instance. So what I was going to say is I think the player should be able to decline the fifth year option. But that's probably tricky because then every player would probably decline it. Should you be able to achieve out of fifth year option eligibility? Yeah, I think that because you have to declare fifth year option for a team after year three. I think an all pro spot is a very high threshold. But I think that's probably fair if this Pro Bowl's too tricky now because what is and what isn't a Pro Bowler, you know what I mean? You could maybe you could say on the original Pro bowl team, you know what I mean? Like one of the. Not an alternate, not a replacement, whatever.
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Devin
Exactly.
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Noah
Some, but certainly. So this is what I would say. If a player in their first three years makes at multiple Pro Bowls or a singular All Pro team, first or second team, then yeah, fifth year options out of there. Like if you want. And by the way, the team still has the franchise tag.
- [43:17]
Devin
Right.
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Noah
You know, the. But at least. And for Micah, because he has been an All Pro, the, the price of the fifth year option is the same as the franchise tag. So you might say, what good would that do? Well, you can only franchise tag a player ever twice. The rule is three times. But no one's ever getting franchise tagged a third time because the third one is so exorbitant. The. And so at least if the Cowboys right now were threatening to franchise Micah, he would then know, okay, like fine, you could do this once more than I can never be franchised again the rest of my career. And I, you know, have ultimate leverage like Dak ended up getting. But yeah, so I, I don't like how the Cowboys are doing this and I don't like that Jerry, I think knows better about what ethical negotiations are and isn't really honoring that, in my opinion.
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Devin
You said that you didn't, you didn't see Michael Parsons getting traded. So you want to do a likely maybe, what if. What do you think the situation is that'll end up coming.
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Noah
So it, it's likely that he gets. Let me pull up T.J. watts deal. T.J. watt got 3 for 123 with 108 guaranteed, 41 million a year. I think it is likely that Micah gets 4 for 170 with 110 guaranteed. So 42 million a year the first three years basically fully guaranteed. And the fourth year is, you know, basically a team option. That's how I think this will play out. I think that's likely. I think maybe, maybe they don't come to an agreement and he plays this year out. That's probably the least likely. And the what if is what if a team says what if? Buffalo just says, you know what? Salary can't be damned. The fact that we tried this with Von Miller before didn't work out be damned. We are not Sean McDermott's like, I lose to Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs because we allow 30 points again, I'm out of here anyway. You know, let's figure out how to.
- [46:03]
Devin
Make that scare you.
- [46:08]
Noah
I. I would not want the Chiefs to trade for Micah Parsons, and I think Mike is arguably the best defensive player in football. I just think if you have the superstar quarterback, which the Ravens have, the Bills have, the Chiefs have you. Well, you. You have to. It's not. You can. You have to. You just can't. Like, and, you know, the Chiefs already have a super expensive Chris Jones. You know what I mean? And so, like, they. I don't think it would be a good idea for the Ravens to trade for Micah if the Bills. The Bills maybe have to change something. You know what I mean? So would it scare. Here's the answer on would it scare me? It would certainly bum me out for this season. But I think if we're looking at the Bills Chiefs rivalry as being over the next five years minimum, I think that is the type of trade that they would long term regret. Yeah. Even if Micah wins defensive player of the year twice in that timeframe, I just think you'd have to give up so much and pair away so much of the rest of the roster that, you know what I mean? You wouldn't. So scare is maybe the wrong. Here's a team that I think, you know, should. Might want to say screw it and do it. The Raiders. Oh, like, we got no Pat, we got no secondary, but we could have Max and Micah. We're trying to win right now anyway. Why not? You know what I mean? Like, that is. That's one. I think there are a few teams that might make sense. All right, let's go to Sean Payton.
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Manny
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Noah
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- [51:51]
Devin
So yeah, the media has been super high on the Broncos. You have not been. So is Sean Payton. He came out and said the short term goal is winning the division, but this is a team capable of winning the Super Bowl. I've coached six teams that I thought could win a Super Bowl. This is my seventh. Yes. Should we believe in this? Is he too high, too low?
- [52:14]
Noah
He also said Bo Nix in the next two years going to be a top four or five quarterback in the world. He also said he's going to be a superstar also. By the way, check out when you're subscribing to what's Right with Nick Wright on YouTube. There's another new channel you can subscribe to on YouTube. Did you see this? Damanze? What is Bo Nix's new YouTube channel? And my, my take that Bo Nix. My take going into the draft was Bo Nix was Mac Jones. For those of you wondering how that has, how that looks so far, well, Mac Jones in year one with new the New England Patriots made a somewhat fraudulent Pro bowl as an alternate Bonix check. The team won 10 games, kind of surprisingly made the playoffs. Bonicks check. The team played the Buffalo Bills in round one, lost by four touchdowns. Bonick's check. And Mac Jones that off season trademarked Mac 10 and all this silly stuff because he was a future star. Go follow Bo Nix on YouTube. Here is my problem with the Broncos hype and discussion. Gosh darn it. Dexter.
- [53:44]
Devin
Dexter.
- [53:44]
Noah
You know what I. You know what I actually think it's value add.
- [53:49]
Devin
It draws attention.
- [53:50]
Noah
It draws attention. Exactly right Here is. Here is what I think people are not recognizing when they are talking about the Broncos as cont. Broncos have an excellent defense and that matters. Now Dre Greenlaw is dealing with a quad already. And Huanga, who I love as a player has been injured every year since his rookie season. Those are their two big additions. The other problem is this last year, Damanze, they won 10 games, okay? The first game they won, they beat Baker Mayfield. Salute. That's a real thing.
- [54:35]
Devin
That's a good one.
- [54:37]
Noah
Here's who they beat after that, okay? Aaron Rodgers, who the jets then got rid of. They then beat Spencer Rattler, who is in a quarterback. The saddest quarterback battle of the year. They then beat Bryce before Bryce Got hot. They then beat Kirk Cousins right before they benched him. They then beat Gardner Minshew, who they. I left that out earlier. They actually beat Gardiner twice. They then beat whoever the hell was starting for the Browns at the time, Jamis, who is currently I think a third string quarterback. They then beat Anthony Richardson and they then beat Chad Henney. Yeah, that's all their wins. Now we are now saying they're contenders. Well, to be contenders. Let's just start with the conference. How did you do against playoff teams in your conference? Well, you played Pittsburgh week two and lost. You played the Chargers week six and lost. You played the Ravens week nine and lost. You played the Chiefs week 10 and lost. You played the Chargers Week 16 and lost. You played the Bengals who weren't in the playoffs, but that was a playoff level game, that game because they were still alive. Week 17 and lost. You then played the Bills in the actual playoffs and lost 31 to 7. Why am I supposed to believe that team all of a sudden is going to be great? Now folks out there like, oh, Nick, you always just hate on the Broncos. Last year preseason gambling show, our favorite win total of the year, Broncos over five and a half. Even though I didn't believe in Bo Nicks because that number was too low, they had a last place schedule. Russ, it was so terrible for him. I'm just calling it as I see it. And right now, is there any other team this year or any year that you can remember that had the pretty universally accepted worst quarterback in their own division that we were like, yep, that team look out for them. Like, let's just look at the other teams across the league who have the worst quarterback in the division. What we think of them, Justin Fields and the jets. Were we afraid of them? Whoever's starting for the Browns, Joe Flacco, how are they looking?
- [57:30]
Devin
Not getting division.
- [57:33]
Noah
The Colts with Daniel Jones, the Giants with Russ, the Vikings with JJ and again that, that's harsh on him, but he's just young now. Maybe Dean's like, maybe it's Caleb. Yeah, I mean again, I don't think, I don't think people is. Even though Caleb Stock is dropping, have JJ Ahead of him in the south, the Saints with whatever they're dealing with. And in the West, Seattle with Darnold or Arizona, I guess with like, I, I just.
- [58:18]
Devin
They just believe in them.
- [58:19]
Noah
I am. Say it again.
- [58:22]
Devin
They're believers. They believe in themselves.
- [58:24]
Noah
Sean Payton has talked a lot of shit though. And yeah, and listen, this is a tricky one because Sean Payton as great of a coach as he is, he must be a better hang because the media loves him. So many of my colleagues at Fox, just from the one year of working with him, they love him. I think Peter Schrager, my pal, he loves him. And we kind of give Sean Payton a, you know, like he walks into Denver, does the interview about what a clown show it was under Nat Hackett, and by week three, the Dolphins are hanging 70 on him. Last year, after sneaking into the playoffs and then getting absolutely demolished by Buffalo, has the audacity to say if we had won this game, we really liked our next matchup, which was going to be against the Chiefs, a Chiefs team that then beat the Buffalo team that he lost to by 100. And now he's like talking division isn't big enough for us. We need to be talking super bowl when that team has not won the division since the last year they won the Super Bowl.
- [59:59]
Devin
Weak NFL right now, I think is what's going on maybe.
- [60:05]
Noah
And here's the other thing. Damanze. I am very, very prepared for a month into the year the Broncos to maybe be four. And oh yeah. And people, yeah. And people are firing stuff back at me like because they're softest part of their schedule is the beginning in my opinion, home for Tennessee at the Colts at the Chargers, which is a home game home for Cincinnati. But I'm curious how the rest of that's going to go for them. And we'll see. But I am I this is one where I've put my money where my mouth is. I'm in the process right now of negotiating a real Broncos bet with poker legend and one of the best sports bettors ever, David Baker. I think I'm going to give him Broncos to win the division at plus 320. And I think we're also going to what demons that you look flustered by that. That's he's.
- [61:23]
Devin
He wants to, he wants to bet and give you money for the Broncos winning the division.
- [61:27]
Noah
Well, I got to give him + 320 so you know what I mean, if we bet a thousand bucks, he can win 3200. But yeah, he wants that bet and he I but I'll also I think bet him make missed playoffs. And so like maybe I'll be wrong. But I'm, I want this take understood and I want to see and you know what? Maybe I'll, maybe I'll make a third bet with David if we can find a fair price on this and have it be an either or. And if it's neither. Then it's no action. Which is the Broncos are so much more likely to finish last in the AFC west than finish first. They are like I think the Chargers are a are better than them. I know the Chiefs are better than them. And I think the Raiders because of schedule coaching quarterback, I think the Raiders can pop. Now the the most likely outcome is the Broncos finish third. I understand that. But I see no outcome whatsoever where the Broncos finish first. And we'll see. We'll see how the future superstar Bo Nix looks come November. Maybe I'll be wrong. I doubt it though. And boss Ajs says in the chat show us the team and quarterbacks the Chiefs beat. It's not that impressive last year. We can do that.
- [63:25]
Devin
That's pretty funny.
- [63:27]
Noah
I let's see who are the teams in the who are the quarterbacks the Chiefs beat last year? Lamar Josh, Allen, Cousins, Herbert Carr, Purdy, Muu, Baker, Nicks, Bryce, Minshu, Herbert I thought I said Burrow. Oh Cleveland, whoever was their quarterback then CJ whoever the Steelers quarterback. Oh Russ, then CJ again, then Josh Allen. So every single dog walking football denver.
- [64:08]
Devin
In week 18 though 38 yeah, they.
- [64:11]
Noah
Didn'T play their guys. Yeah they said everyone and and I and then they got crushed in the Super Bowl. They beat every so in other words, they beat every single good quarterback in football except for Jaden who they never played her to beat them and Stafford who they never played. Good try. Good effort. All right. By the way, this is a message that applies to 99% of you listening right now because that's how many of you can be covered by fast and reliable service on the Boost mobile network with 99% nationwide coverage. And if you don't think you deserve a deal, listen up. You have another thing coming right now. When you switch to Boost Mobile you can get iPhone 15 with Dynamic island and a 48 megapixel main camera for 149. 99. That's $149.99 for iPhone 15 on a nationwide network. I'm 99% positive boost mobile just gave all of us a really good freaking deal. In store offer only $35 device setup fee may apply. Requires credit qualification, ID verification and activation on a $60 plan. Taxes extra 5G speeds not available in all areas. All right Damanze, let's keep going. We're going to go faster through these next ones.
- [65:32]
Devin
Camp has Camp has been slightly unfortunate for your guy, Caleb Williams. He went 5 of 17 with three interceptions. He's also Trying.
- [65:41]
Noah
Can I say something real quick? I'm putting a slight asterisk on this 5 of 17. I saw one person tweet it and then I saw articles written that cited the tweet. So I'm not certain that was the exact number, but he obviously struggled in front of the fans. Now keep going.
- [66:04]
Devin
He. He had delay of game penalties and, you know, he was throwing a ball at this net and he could not get it in the net and he got really mad. Yeah, I thought that.
- [66:13]
Noah
All right, do we want to play this? Yeah. Okay. So demons.
- [66:20]
Devin
I mean, come on.
- [66:22]
Noah
Okay. Do you remember when we had the dart board out on the back deck?
- [66:30]
Devin
Yeah.
- [66:32]
Noah
That final throw reminded me of when I would be playing darts and barely miss my first two attempts. And then the third one, I would just rear back and fire it and sometimes miss the board entirely. And so here's the serious take. The little pout reaction after is, in my opinion, more concerning than the throws. Like, we know Caleb Williams can make short, quick, pinpoint throws. Like he. He didn't there. But we know, like, it's not like, oh, man, this guy, he's not. When he is not deep in his own head, he is an accurate, precise passer. The problem is the getting in his own head, and the problem is the body language and the emotional stability of him as a player. Now, I think Ben Johnson is. And I'm not talking about in this drill. I'm talking about the delay of games and that I think Ben Johnson is intentionally trying to break him down a bit to then build him back up and trying to throw. Yes. And trying to throw as much at him as possible. I know there was a. I know there was a clip or not a clip, but a report that Ben intentionally cut out the communication between Caleb's headset to see how he reacted to that. He's doing a lot. So they can then when it's time for the actual games, streamline it and things will feel easier than they actually are. I think that's smart as long as Caleb doesn't get too down on himself and as long as Caleb can handle it well. And I do think one of the. I didn't love the commentary about Caleb after he cried in college because so much of it felt. Felt kind of lowest common denominator. And there was a lot of like, winking and a nod to paints his nails carries immerse. And now he's crying and it just felt like we know what you're trying to imply and like it. And so. So I stayed out of it. I do think, though, there was something. The taking a loss that hard and not being, you know, able to compose yourself that was like, oh, that, you know, that's something, you know, just like it does. What I didn't like was it felt that I would have felt the exact. My opinion would have been the exact same if instead of crying, he had gone to the Gatorade table and thrown that and broken stuff or whatever. But it felt like the general reaction would have been very different because they were basically saying he's feminine. Like, that's what the attacks were. And that part, like, that's bullshit. But the inability to, like, keep the.
- [70:01]
Devin
Loss and keep your composure 100%, that part's real.
- [70:05]
Noah
That part's real. And that's like a fair concern. So I, I still fully believe in Caleb. I do think that he has to. He doesn't have to be excellent week one on, but he has to either be solid all year or, you know, the final two months a lot. Jordan loves first year with the, you know, packers where it, like, looks pretty shaky early. Like, oh, man, is this guy not the guy? And then bam, you know, it's like, oh, shit, he just won offensive player of the month. You know, something like that. If he's the guy I think he is, he has to give you a re. A tangible reason to believe it in year two, which, by the way, pretty good over there.
- [71:05]
Devin
I think he needs to make an effort in that department because the say on him. Right. It's not great. Like, with the attitude thing, I think it's a. It's a much bigger thing than what it needs to be right now outside of just the.
- [71:16]
Noah
I agree with you. I agree with you. And I think, you know, from your.
- [71:22]
Devin
You know, to smile.
- [71:24]
Noah
Our experience together. Yeah. In. In sports. How important I think that is.
- [71:32]
Devin
Yeah.
- [71:32]
Noah
I think that when you are a team's best player and Caleb's not, you know, maybe he's not their best player yet, but he's the starting quarterback, number one pick. Like you're the de facto leader.
- [71:42]
Devin
Right.
- [71:44]
Noah
It. People take their cues from you. And this is something that I, you know, I used to give Demanz so much about that he. That. That he wore his emotions on his sleeve. And I thought that opponents saw it. But more importantly, like, it. People that are the leader of a team or the best player on a team, you're less. The. The teammates of yours that aren't as talented as you take their cues from you. So I'm not going to, you know, Play favorites here. Like he's got to be better about that. And it is one of in my opinion, something Patrick, Josh and Lamar do exceptionally well. It's always first of all, you're pointing thumbs, not fingers. And burrow as well, by the way is great at this. And it's we got it. You know what I mean? We got it. And one of the things that you see a little bit again I'm not trying to pick on anybody, but I think it's accurate. Jalen, by the way also obviously is a great leader in this stuff. But one of the things you see a little bit from Lamar in the postseason is some of these frustration.
- [73:06]
Devin
It leaks out a little bit like whoa.
- [73:08]
Noah
Like it's where it feels like he feels like oh my God, it's happening.
- [73:13]
Devin
Yeah, yeah.
- [73:14]
Noah
In a way that never happens in the regular season. And so like I do think that stuff really matters. And so yeah, he's got to get better about it. He's got to get better about it. No doubt about it. All right, let's go to Luca Saluca.
- [73:31]
Devin
Signed his three year 165 million extension with the Lakers over the weekend. We've all been waiting on that. So now that that's finally happened, do you think that it's time for LA to really press the gas on trying to succeed in the now?
- [73:44]
Noah
Well, listen, I got it. I said after they didn't resign Dorian Finney Smith that I thought there was a chance I put Lucas signing the extension. Was it 90%? I had it. I dropped it to like 75%. So I do think this is good, important real news. I also think that because he signed the extension they are able to slow walk this a bit if they want to because Luke is not going anywhere over the next three years. And by the way, the next deal he'll sign to Monze will be the league's first million dollar a game deal.
- [74:24]
Devin
Super max. Yeah. Well, was that what he was supposed to. Was that what he was coming up on in Dallas?
- [74:30]
Noah
No, he was. No, not quite. That he could have signed. No, the he would have gotten the biggest deal ever in Dallas, but it wouldn't. We wouldn't have gotten that threshold yet. But three years from now his contract will average more than 82 million a year and there's 82 games. It's a really remarkable thing. Here is though my general lakers take that no. 1. Even the biggest anti LeBron folks haven't been able to explain to me where I'm wrong on this. I think it is overwhelmingly likely that over the lifetime of this extension, these next three years, Luca never has a teammate better than LeBron is right now. Now, listen, maybe they're going to get Giannis and I'll be wrong. Maybe they're, you know, they have their eyes on Joker, and I'll be wrong. But Shea ain't going anywhere, and now Tatum's not going anywhere, and now we're like running out of people who are better than LeBron right now. Okay? So I would, if I were the Lakers, prioritize trying to win right now, because if they think this is their last year with LeBron, I do not know that Luke is going to have a better running mate than LeBron over these next three years. Now, again, if they have real intel that if they keep the cap sheet clean in two years, Giannis plans on just coming there in free agency, then so be it. Then, you know what if they, like, then see, you know, it's not like they're drawing dead this season. Like, they've got a nice roster. Then, then keep it flexible. But that's a hell of a gamble to take. Like a hell of a gamble to take.
- [76:36]
Devin
Do you. Are you worried at all that there's like a. A rift potentially forming between Luka and LeBron or do you think that Luka knows that it's.
- [76:44]
Noah
I don't think. Yeah, I don't think it's between Luke and LeBron at all. I. LeBron was. Luke is all time favorite player. Luke is the guy LeBron tried to sign to his shoe line. Luke, like, I don't think there is anything between them at all. I think there is some obvious frustration for LeBron, fair or not, that the Lakers are not pressing the gas even more on this season. Now, you can say that's unfair, that they shouldn't, whatever, but that is, to me, the entirety of the frustration is, is that right there. All right, guys. You guys know it. We're just a couple weeks away. I am so excited to go to the US Open here in New York City. I go every single year and I go. Thanks to my friends at SeatGeek. They are a sponsor of today's show and they deserve a huge shout out. With over 28 million downloads, SeatGeek is the number one rated ticketing app. There are more than 70,000 events listed on SeatGeek, including concerts, sports, music festivals, and more. Right now, you can get tickets to the NFL season, which is right around the corner. Major League Baseball going on right now, which is in full swing. And as I've said, I love using SeatGeek. You go to the app, type in US Open tennis. Let's just see what the. I mean, look at this. The. Wow. It really is two weeks from. Two weeks from today. Mixed double session, 50 bucks. Day session, bang. Now this one. I mean, look at that. You just get in there. 50. Oh, I'm supposed to show the phone. Sorry, my bad. I was too busy looking at it. 50 bucks for at ash. 50 bucks at ash. What's the. Where's our first grounds sessions? Grounds admission. August 24th, get into Billie Jean King National Tennis Center. Grab me a ticket right there. It's just as good as it gets. You guys know how it works. Each tickets rated on a scale of 1 to 10. You know you're getting a good deal. Look for the green dots. Green means good, red means bad. Every ticket is backed by their buyer guarantee. And you guys can help me out a lot because there is nothing I like more than sponsors with products that I've used well before their sponsors. SeatGeek is definitively one of them. So use my code. If you see code, write 10, W, R, I G H T. 10 for 10% off your next set of tickets at SeatGeek. That's 10% off any tickets with promo code, right? 10. Make sure you click the link in the description, download the app, have the code automatically added to your account so you can use it later. Thank you. To SeatGeek.
- [79:31]
Manny
Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this.
- [79:35]
Noah
Attention passengers. The pilot is having an emergency and we need someone, anyone, to land this plane.
- [79:43]
Manny
Think you could do it? It turns out that nearly 50% of men think that they could land the plane with the help scope of air traffic control.
- [79:51]
Noah
And they're saying like, okay, pull this until this.
- [79:53]
Manny
Pull that, turn this. It's. It's just I do my eyes closed. I'm Manny.
- [79:57]
Noah
I'm Noah. This is Devin.
- [79:58]
Manny
And on our new show, no Such Thing, we get to the bottom of questions like these. Join us as we talk to the leading expert on overconfidence.
- [80:07]
Noah
Those who lack expertise, lack the expertise they need to recognize that they lack expertise.
- [80:14]
Manny
And then as we try the whole thing out for real. Wait, what? Oh, that's the Runway. I'm looking at this thing. See, listen to no Such thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [80:29]
Freddy
It's the biggest party of the summer. WWE SummerSlam is here and wrestling with Freddy is all over it. We're talking wild matches, big surprises. And our boldest predictions yet. From celebrity showdowns to the chaos inside a steel cage, we're breaking down every match and calling who we think walks out on top. This card is loaded. From Cody Rhodes, John Cena, Rhea, Ripley and Tiffy, just to name a few. This lineup is ready to tear down the house. We'll give you our unfiltered takes, honest debates, and you already know a ton of laughs along the way. We're covering the upsets, the wild returns, and the championship moments. Nobody expects. We'll get into the matches that steal the show, the storylines that explore, explode, and those oh my God, did that just happen? Moments that make SummerSlam legendary. Don't miss it. Listen to Wrestling with Freddy as part of the My Coultura podcast network. Find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [81:22]
A.J. Jacobs
Hello puzzlers. Let's start with a quick puzzle. The answer is Ken Jennings appearance on the puzzler with A.J. jacobs. The question is, what is the most entertaining listening experience in podcast land?
- [81:38]
Noah
Jeopardy.
- [81:39]
A.J. Jacobs
Truthers who say that you were given all the answers believe in.
- [81:43]
Freddy
I guess they would be conspiracy theorists.
- [81:46]
A.J. Jacobs
That's right. Are there Jeopardy. Truthers? Are there people who say that it it was rigged?
- [81:51]
Noah
Yeah. Ever since I was first on, people are like, they gave you the answers. Right. And then there's the other ones which are like they gave you the answers and you still blew it.
- [82:01]
A.J. Jacobs
Don't miss Jeopardy. Legend Ken Jennings on our special game show Week of the Puzzler podcast. The Puzzler is the best place to get your daily word puzzle fix. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [82:23]
Unknown
Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club. We go behind the scenes and explore the stories of those involved.
- [82:35]
iHeart Podcast
San Diego coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team.
- [82:42]
Noah
We need veteran players and we need young players. Like you're building a team from scratch and so the succession plan of long term success needs to be defined. We need to embrace this community.
- [82:53]
iHeart Podcast
When I was 13, my uncle took me to a qualifier and we watched Paraguay against Chile. Pouring rain. Just watching the fans jumping up and down, I think that was definitely a watershed moment for me. Not only was that gonna be my game, but it was gonna be my life.
- [83:11]
Unknown
Listen to San Diego FC behind the flow now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [83:21]
Noah
All right. Damanze, let's run through the, the very end here because I gotta go.
- [83:26]
Devin
Oh, yeah. So Baker Mayfield came in at number 50 in the NFL top hundred list. He answers this year's the eighth best odds for MVP. And Tampa Bay also just drafted Emika Igbuka and they're getting Godwin back from his injury. What are your expectations for Baker this year?
- [83:44]
Noah
Expectations are he has another really good season ceiling, is he is a frontline MVP candidate and they are a true contender in the nfc. Like I think that's on the board. And here's the thing. In order for them to be a contender, he has to be an MVP candidate because that defense is not going to be great. They are going to have to outscore people. But Baker had 40 touchdowns last year. He was a badass. Yeah. I mean, he was a badass last year. I'm so. And he right now has. I want to make sure I'm right about this. That I didn't miss. Yeah. He's on the best non rookie contract in the NFL. Three years, 100 million bucks for Baker Mayfield. He is one more good season away from getting a $250 million deal. He's been that level of player and I'm just happy for him, man, because shit went so sideways on him. Yeah. And his teammates love him. He is true to himself. He's tough. He is a legit, awesome playoff performer. Like this is the thing that people I think underrate with Baker. He has played, I think five career playoff games. I'm going to tell you what he did in them. First playoff game ever, the Cleveland Browns go into Pittsburgh, hang 48 on him. Baker throws for 263 touchdowns, a 115 rating. Second playoff game ever. His only ever bad playoff game. He's against the two time defending AFC champion. Oh, I'm sorry. He's against the defending super bowl champion Chiefs. And he's 23 of 37 for 200 yards, one touchdown, one pick, 75 rating. But he's in Arrowhead in round two against the 2020 Chiefs. Like, no shame in that.
- [85:53]
Devin
Yeah.
- [85:54]
Noah
He then makes the playoffs with Tampa. His first playoff game ever against Philly. And again, it's so crazy. This is Philly. This game was in January of 2024. Yeah, exactly. 32 to 9, three touchdowns, no picks, a 120 rating. The next game against Detroit, 350 yards, three touchdowns, two picks, a 95 rating. They lose by eight. And then the game against Washington last year, a wild one where he only throws 18 times. But he's 15 of 18 for a buck 85, two touchdowns and a 147 rating. In his playoff career, he's got a 106 rating, 12 touchdowns, three picks. Like, I mean, he's just been awesome.
- [86:46]
Devin
In the big game. He gets better.
- [86:48]
Noah
Yeah. So I, Yeah. So I'm a Baker believer through and through. All right, let's do these last two real quick.
- [86:57]
Devin
James Cook is holding in as he looks for his contract extension. After a few years of big dollar running backs paying off, it seemed like the debate was put to rest, but that conversation opens back up again. Or do you think Cook is just not that guy?
- [87:10]
Noah
Well, no, I just, I think Cook's really good, but I. The Bills have no cap space. He's under contract for 5 million bucks. They know they can franchise tag him for not much. And even if you think he's awesome, do you think he's going to be awesome four years from now? So, like, go ahead.
- [87:29]
Devin
Isn't he a huge part of their offense last year? Like what, what was huge? Buffalo.
- [87:33]
Noah
The last two years?
- [87:34]
Devin
Right, Exactly.
- [87:35]
Noah
I just think they think he's going to blink, bro. I don't think it's that they. You know what I mean? I think that they think we'll give him a little more money, but not long term. You know what I mean? Nothing long term. And then we'll. Or maybe a one year extension. But the report is he wants, you know, I don't know if it's that what he wants. I don't want to get this wrong, But I saw four years, 40 million bouncing around, which is only 10 million a year. But I just think they think at that position, his style, in two years he could be done. And they just. It's just such a tough business for running backs, man. It's just such a tough business for running backs. All right, like rate, subscribe, review to the pod. Let's get to some of these listener questions quickly if we can, please.
- [88:21]
Devin
Justin says Fox is getting paid more than LeBron. Is he ever going to be better than year 40 LeBron? How is his contract not holding back the Spurs? Like LeBron's contract holds back the Lakers?
- [88:32]
Noah
Yeah, I mean, that's the. So that's one of the reasons the LeBron contract discussion was so absurd. Like, no people again, I. He is. LeBron is demonstrably better than Fox. And most people. I'm not one of them. Most people like the Fox contract a lot. I'm a little skeptical of it. Like that's, it's just so much of LeBron discourse. Just so stupid.
- [88:58]
Devin
Indie. Oh, go ahead. Andy asks Nick, can you Compare the first 21 playoff games from Patrick versus Tom Brady? I think people need to see just how great Pat has been in the playoffs.
- [89:10]
Noah
I can do that another time. But Pat's 17 and four in the postseason and the all time highest passer rating, all of it. The numbers are just bananas. Nobody's play, no resume is going to compare well to that. There's just no question. All right, next, Matt asks, is.
- [89:26]
Devin
Is flat. Is flatly. Okay, Is flatly your favorite word.
- [89:32]
Noah
Do I use it a lot? I must. I have some verbal tics like that, so maybe a little bit. Yeah. So I didn't. I didn't know. But go ahead.
- [89:43]
Devin
Dustin says Nick, I watched all of the M1 movies. I don't know what M1 is.
- [89:48]
Noah
Mission impossible.
- [89:49]
Devin
Oh, okay.
- [89:49]
Noah
Mission Impossible.
- [89:50]
Devin
Mission Impossible movies. After your glowing recommendation and love them, how would you rank all eight movies.
- [89:59]
Noah
That you know that is. I will do that another time. I. I can't do that. The very end of a show. It deserves too much, you know, it deserves an impossible corner. Yeah, I mean, they're just. I mean, it's just the greatest film franchise ever. All right, Adam says that it's his 26th birthday. He got eight tickets to see the Sox play the Royals in Fenway with our seat geek code. How about that? Appreciate that he said. Much love from New Hampshire. Happy birthday also, Adam. All right, like rate, subscribe, review. Appreciate you guys. I've got Colin in about an hour and then first things first at 3 o'.
- [90:42]
Devin
Clock.
- [90:42]
Noah
See you guys there. What's right. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Thank you to volume DraftKings, Blue Duck Boost, SeatGeek, and of course, our friends at. Did I get everybody? Did I leave anybody out? I think I got everybody. Thank you to everybody. Talk to you guys later. We'll try.
- [90:58]
Manny
Why are TSA rules so confusing?
- [91:00]
Noah
You got a hoodie on. Take it off.
- [91:02]
Manny
I'm Manny. I'm Noah.
- [91:04]
Devin
This is Devin.
- [91:04]
Manny
And we're best friends and journalists with a new podcast called no Such Thing where we get to the bottom of questions like that. Why are you screaming? Well, I can't expect. What to do now if the rule was the same, Go off on me. I deserve it.
- [91:17]
Noah
You know, Lock him up.
- [91:18]
Manny
Listen to no Such thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [91:24]
Noah
No Such thing.
- [91:28]
A.J. Jacobs
Let's start with a quick puzzle. The answer is Ken Jennings appearance on the puzzler with A.J. jacobs. The question is, what is the most entertaining listening experience in podcast land. Jeopardy truthers believe in.
- [91:45]
Freddy
I guess they would be Kenspiracy theorists.
- [91:48]
A.J. Jacobs
That's right.
- [91:48]
Noah
They gave you the answers and you still blew it.
- [91:51]
A.J. Jacobs
The Puzzler listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [91:59]
Freddy
We're breaking down SummerSlam, the biggest party of the summer on Wrestling With Freddy. From our bold picks to storyline breakdowns, we will discuss who walks out with gold, who shocks the night and which matches steal the show we call the winners, the upsets and the chaos to expect. Plus, whatever swerves next, nobody saw coming. Listen to Wrestling with Freddie as part of the Mike Kultura Podcast Network. Available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [92:26]
Unknown
Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club San Diego.
- [92:35]
iHeart Podcast
Coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team.
- [92:41]
Noah
We need to embrace this community.
- [92:45]
Unknown
Listen to San Diego FC behind the flow on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [92:56]
Noah
This is an iHeart podcast.