What's Wright - NFL Week 16 Reaction: Chiefs LEAVING KC? Caleb & Bears THRILLER + Ravens on the ROPES | Nick Wright

Summary

The Herd with Colin Cowherd – “What’s Wright” NFL Week 16 Reaction

Host: Nick Wright
Co-host: Damanze
Date: December 24, 2025
Episode Theme: NFL Week 16 storylines, including Chiefs’ stadium relocation, thrilling Bears comeback, Ravens’ struggles, and more.

---

Episode Overview

This episode focuses on the fallout and highlights from NFL Week 16. Nick Wright and Damanze break down major storylines, including:

• The Kansas City Chiefs’ planned move across state lines and the new stadium debate
• Key on-field moments from the week: Caleb Williams' comeback, Ravens’ heartbreak, and AFC/NFC playoff pictures
• Deep dives into fan conduct, NFL discipline, and the evolving nature of football stadiums
• Quickfire takes on other NFL games and playoff implications

---

Key Discussion Points & Insights

DK Metcalf Fan Incident and Player-Fan Boundaries ([04:09] – [15:12])

• Incident: DK Metcalf, Steelers WR, suspended 2 games for striking a fan.
• Nick’s Take: While fans can be obnoxious, lines must be drawn. Pro athletes, especially NFL players with “gladiator mentality,” must never cross into hitting spectators.
  • Quote (Nick, 10:55): “We've become a little too liberal with words being allowed and a little too conservative with punches that are allowed.”
• Debate over Justification: Damanze and Nick discuss what, if anything, justifies a player striking a fan. Nick insists only extreme provocation (racial slurs, etc.) warrants a punch—but falsely claiming provocation is worse.
• NFL’s Zero-Tolerance: Nick drives home how the NFL must maintain a hard line (“you can’t hit the customers”), even more so than the NBA, because of the physicality and size of players.

---

Kansas City Chiefs’ Stadium Move: Geography, Politics & Football ([21:11] – [36:55])

• Move Clarified: Chiefs plan to relocate from Missouri to a new $1.8B domed stadium in Kansas by 2031.
  • Move is essentially local (20 minutes west), still retains “Kansas City Chiefs” identity (Quote, Nick, 21:26: “This is not a team moving, the way teams move, like Baltimore going to Cleveland…”).
• Public Subsidy Debate: Nick opposes public funding in major markets, but concedes smaller/mid markets like KC face real threats of losing teams, so subsidies are more defensible.
  • “The only thing that distinguishes Kansas City from Des Moines, Iowa, or Omaha, Nebraska is the Chiefs and the Royals” ([23:35]).
• Cross-border Bidding War: The Chiefs leveraged Kansas/Missouri rivalry—playing one state against another—to secure a record public funding package.
• Football Purity & Domes: Nick laments loss of weather as a game factor—from open Arrowhead to a climate-controlled dome, which diminishes what makes football special in Midwest cities.
  • Quote (Nick, 32:09): “To me, [a dome] is not worth the trade off of football slowly but surely eliminating weather as a component.”
• Super Bowl Myth: “Just because KC gets a dome doesn’t mean it will regularly host Super Bowls… it shouldn’t.”
  • Nick prefers Super Bowls in “destination cities” like Miami, New Orleans, Vegas.

---

State of the Ravens and Lamar Jackson’s Exits ([47:32] – [58:53])

• Ravens Lose Again: Another blown lead, injuries mounting, playoff hopes fading after Lamar leaves with a rib injury.
• Lamar’s Durability Questioned: Both hosts express surprise—and mild skepticism—over Lamar not returning after what is later reported as a “contusion.”
  • Quote (Nick, 53:49): “It’s just another weird injury thing with Lamar… if this was [other elite QBs], do we think we wouldn’t have seen them at least try to return?”
• Harbaugh’s Tenure: Nick wonders if the Lamar-Harbaugh partnership has run its course.
• Franchise Underachievement: Baltimore spent three years as a perceived Super Bowl favorite but has only two playoff wins in that span.

---

AFC North Playoff Picture: Pittsburgh, Detroit, and End-Game Drama ([59:12] – [63:04])

• Pittsburgh vs. Detroit: Critical goal-line sequence dissected:
  • Nick criticizes Detroit for passing on the 1-yard line instead of running (“Run the ball… You’re supposed to be smashmouth!” [59:47]).
  • Controversy, but ultimately, officials right to negate Detroit’s final lateral—progress was obviously stopped.
• Pittsburgh’s Playoff Path: If the Steelers beat the Browns, they lock up the #4 seed and a much-needed “bye” week for aging starters.

---

Bears’ Caleb Williams, Comeback Thriller & QB Development ([67:09] – [71:10])

• Dramatic Win: Bears beat Packers in OT after recovering an onside kick.
• Caleb’s Clutch: All of Williams’ big moments came after the lucky onside kick (“Sometimes you need that opening to redeem yourself” [67:35]) but the talent is obvious, though inconsistency remains.
• Backup QBs: Malik Willis (Packers) lauded; Matt LaFleur’s success developing backups may pay off as QBs look to rehab careers in Green Bay.
• Playoff Math: Detailed breakdown of what needs to happen for NFC North teams to get in.

---

Jaguars’ Upset & AFC Seeding Possibilities ([71:51] – [75:28])

• Trevor Lawrence Outshines Expectations: Jaguars’ 34-point explosion on Denver's top defense puts them in contention for the AFC’s No. 1 seed.
• Complex Scenarios: Nick quickly outlines the Jags’ playoff math—potential to land the 1, 2, or 3 seed by winning out and getting a bit of help.
  • “Sites are higher [for Jags]… I didn’t expect that good against that Denver defense.” ([72:05])

---

NFC Playoff Race and Other Notables ([76:02] – [81:54])

• Rams’ Costly Loss: A late collapse against the Seahawks makes top seed odds slim despite being deemed “the best team” by Nick.
  • “Every concern you had about Darnold… he lived up to those concerns for the first three and a half quarters” ([76:34]).
• Niners’ Offense Elite: Purdy shines, though Nick reiterates his skepticism about SF’s defense and the ongoing debate about Purdy’s real value.
• Weather as an Equalizer: Emphasized again as Nick expresses his preference for cold-weather playoff games for drama and fairness.

---

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On fan conduct and boundaries (Nick, 10:55):
  “We've become a little too liberal with words being allowed and a little too conservative with punches that are allowed.”

• On the Chiefs’ move (Nick, 21:26):
  “This is not a team moving, the way teams move, like Baltimore going to Cleveland…”

• On public subsidies for sports (Nick, 23:35):
  “The only thing that distinguishes Kansas City from Des Moines, Iowa, or Omaha, Nebraska is the Chiefs and the Royals.”

• On domes vs. weather (Nick, 32:09):
  “To me, [a dome] is not worth the trade off of football slowly but surely eliminating weather as a component.”

• Ravens collapse (Nick, 53:49):
  “It’s just another weird injury thing with Lamar… if this was [other elite QBs], do we think we wouldn’t have seen them at least try to return?”

• Caleb Williams’ heroics (Nick, 67:35):
  “Post onside kick, Caleb was unreal. Sometimes you need that little opening to redeem yourself.”

---

Timestamps for Important Segments

• DK Metcalf fan incident: [04:09] – [15:12]
• Chiefs’ stadium move and dome pros/cons: [21:11] – [36:55]
• Baltimore Ravens injuries and playoff collapse: [47:32] – [58:53]
• Pittsburgh’s goal-line stand vs. Detroit: [59:12] – [63:04]
• Bears come back, Caleb Williams: [67:09] – [71:10]
• Jags postseason chances: [71:51] – [75:28]
• NFC wild card chase and other notes: [76:02] – [81:54]

---

Tone, Style, and Interaction

The episode maintains Nick Wright’s conversational, opinionated, and slightly combative tone, with plenty of humor and off-the-cuff analogies. Damanze acts as an insightful counterpoint, bringing measured questions and supporting opinions, especially regarding player injuries and team identity. There’s a palpable mix of local pride (in KC), old-school football values, betting talk, and appreciation for drama in the NFL’s late season.

---

In Summary

This Week 16 NFL breakdown blends big-picture sports business analysis (Chiefs’ stadium politics), classic NFL debates (fan interaction, dome vs. weather, playoff seeding), and rapid-fire reactions to every major game. Notable for its honesty, jokes, and depth, the episode will delight NFL fans seeking both context and strong takes on how football—and the business around it—is changing.

Transcript

[Host]

This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human what are you reaching for? If you're a smoker or dipper, you could be reaching for more with Zen Nicotine Pouches. When you reach for Zen, you're reaching for 10 satisfying varieties and two strengths for a smoke free, spit free option that lets you lean into good times instead of stepping away for premium rewards, chances to break free from your routine and a unique nationwide community. Whatever you're reaching for, reach for it with America's number one nicotine pouch brand. Find your Zen wherever nicotine products are sold near you. Warning. This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical.

[Ad Voice]

Everybody has goals and every goal starts with an assist, whether it's on the field or off. That's why Helion is teaming up with US Soccer to launch for the Assist. It's a new campaign that celebrates those everyday acts of support that help people achieve their goals. As the makers of trusted brands like Advil, Centrum, Tum, Sensodyne and Voltaren, Halion knows how to support everyday wellness goals. To learn more, go to helionassist.com on Fox 1.

Now you can stream your favorite live.

[Host]

Sports so you can be there live for the biggest moments.

[Ad Voice]

Touchdown and catch History in the making.

[Host]

Fox one we live for live streaming now. This is Sophie Cunningham from Show Me Something.

[Ad Voice]

Do you know the symptoms of moderate.

[Host]

To severe obstructive sleep apnea, or OSA in adults with obesity? They may be happening to you without you knowing.

[Ad Voice]

If anyone has ever said you snored.

[Host]

Loudly, or if you spend your days fighting off excessive tiredness, irritability and concentration issues, it may be due to osa. OSA is a serious condition where your airway partially or completely collapses during sleep, which may cause breathing interruptions and oxygen deprivation.

[Ad Voice]

Learn more at don'tsleep on OSA.com this.

[Host]

Information is provided by Lily, a medicine company. So let me get this straight. Your company has data here, there and everywhere, but your AI can't use the.

[Co-host Damanze]

Data because it's here, there and everywhere?

[Host]

Seems like something's missing. Every business has unique data. IBM helps your AI access your data wherever it lives. To change how you do business, let's create smarter business.

[Co-host Damanze]

IBM.

[Host]

Welcome in what driving the great episode 407 this episode, as always, is brought to you by our friends at Boost Mobile. Great to see everyone today. Merry Christmas. Happy Hanukkah. Happy holidays to everybody again. We are live right now Tuesday, December 23rd and then we are bringing you later this week our gambling show. So it will be A two show week this week and next is Christmas day and New Year's Day both fall on our regular Thursday recordings. Daman, how are you? I'm doing excellent.

[Co-host Damanze]

Good to see you. Good to see you.

[Host]

So I have a very funny story that I will tell later in today's show that I have just shared with some of the our great producers at Volume and Blue Duck about a real life scenario where I 40 something year old, longtime professional grandfather, national television and podcast host had to borrow money this weekend to gamble with from demand. Say that happened and so and it was as at just the way it should have gone. It was so close to being so great and yet instead it was toss and turn.

[Co-host Damanze]

It was really was right there.

[Host]

It really was right. You know what, how many stories have started like that I would. I was right there. But such is life. So that story coming later in today's show right now we will get to Straight to voicemail. Brought to you by our friends at Boost Mobile. Draymond Green ejected himself after an argument with Steve Kerr. The the juice is still worth the squeeze with Draymond, but man, oh man, there's a lot less juice and the squeezing's getting a lot tougher and that you can kind of see how that could end. Anthony Joshua knocks out Jake Paul. And I'll be totally honest here, that was. We talked about that more. Did we talk about that at all?

[Co-host Damanze]

We did on Thursday. We did okay.

[Host]

Yeah. About the gambling opportunities from that and that one came through. Now the knockout rounds one through three did not at minus 1:30, but the knockout overall at minus 3:70 did. And two thoughts on that quickly. One is I, I was nervous watching that because I bet Joshua for knockout or tko like but I would not so I would not have won the bet if it went to the cards, which I did not think it was going to first few rounds. Obviously Jake's running around. I didn't like that. But I felt like. But I also would not have won the bet if Jake got DQ'd. And I was worried with him like consistently like wrestling and falling that they might DQ him. But Joshua caught him with a clean right, broke his jaw in multiple places. And now I have to listen to people telling me, you know, how tough Jake Paul is. Listen, I'm, I don't doubt that he's tough. Doesn't change the fact that he is a clown and the tongue wagging and the whole. He put himself in that position to get his jaw broken. Got his jaw broken and people are like, wow, you can't question that guy. I question that guy plenty. I'm glad for Anthony Joshua and then DK Metcalf. So he's been suspended for two games. That's going to cost him more than half a million dollars in salary. It might cost the Steelers. Now the Steelers, if they win against the Bronco. I'm sorry against the Broncos, against the Browns. They the Steelers have three ways to make the playoffs. Way number one they beat the Browns. They're in way number two the Ravens lose to the Packers. Then the Steelers are In way number three is Steelers beat the Ravens in week 18. But DK Metcalf obviously won't be playing in those games, so that hurts them a bit. I still think they'll be able to beat the Browns. I don't think it'll be a problem. So I just want to spend a moment here talking about what DK Metcalf did so and Reminder Everybody Like Rate Subscribe Review It'd be a great Christmas present to us if we as we inch closer to a quarter of a million subscribers, we're right short of 230,000. We we're not going to get to a quarter of a million by New Year's as was our goal. If we could maybe approach it by the super bowl, it'd be great. We we'd have to really pick up the numbers on YouTube but much love to everyone who subscribes already. If you're just watching or listening on itunes or Spotify and not subscribed on an audio platform and or on YouTube, it'd great be greatly appreciated. So you know Daman, my general feeling on a few of these topics One is this. There is almost no one more embarrassing to be around or be associated with than the full grown post college age adult that goes to games to nastily taunt pro athletes. Yeah, I, I, I don't like that guy in any way, shape or form. I think that is embarrassing behavior. I think it is shocking. Listen, I think booing is fine. I think making noise, I I think the occasional well timed wise crack if it's actually funny and witty. I think there is a room for that in sports. But the 30 something year old and I'm not saying that's what this guy was but just in generically the 30 something year old or older drunk idiot that is just being obnoxious and making it uncomfortable for those around him. I don't like that person. I also have a controversial belief which is society as a whole is better if people have a somewhat healthy fear might get punched in the face. I think that like there is the, the, the furthest logical conclusion of this is I find no one more abhorrent or a certain abhorrent might be the wrong word obnoxious than the streamer idiot kids that walk around malls and stuff.

[Co-host Damanze]

Yeah.

[Host]

Pulling pranks, messing with people with their own security because they know I can't get punched in the face. And I do think that there is a healthy self policing that can be done of if folks know, hey, yeah, maybe I'll be able to press charges. Maybe I, you know, may, maybe it's going to ruin the other person's next few months. But if I act in a certain manner, I might get punched in the face. Not shot, not stabbed, not kicked in the head while I'm on the ground, but a quick little jab. If everybody knows that that's on the board, I think people will conduct themselves with more grace and courtesy. And we've lost that a little bit. Just a little bit. We've become a little too, I would say liberal with words that are being allowed while a little too conservative with punches that are allowed. Just my personal.

[Ad Voice]

That's not.

[Host]

I don't mean that in a political sense. I mean the, the. I think that old sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never harm me. Nursery rhyme did a little damage to a generation. I think that. And so, and so moving like I do think there are. Say it again.

[Co-host Damanze]

So they're moving like chihuahuas, you know.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Co-host Damanze]

You run away.

[Host]

Correct. I do think there is a. At times, certain things you deserve to get punched. Like I.

[Co-host Damanze]

And have the facts come out about what was said. Like DK was saying that he might have called him something that you never call a black man. He was saying that he just called DK by his original name. And DK doesn't like his original name.

[Host]

So I, I think that video that I have seen with audio.

[Co-host Damanze]

He's just calling him his name.

[Host]

Sound like the guy with the blue wig is telling the truth.

[Co-host Damanze]

Yeah.

[Host]

That he didn't say anything about his wife, his mother. He didn't say a slur.

[Co-host Damanze]

I think that's also a problem on DK's on DK's side because I understand, like the fan shouldn't be there heckling, but you also shouldn't put that on the fan. That he said that just because you wanted to go over there and punch him in the face because you didn't like how you.

[Host]

Yeah, that's a whole nother thing. Which is the. If you Tell me. And I don't. You know the. If you tell me, no matter what race, creed, ethnicity, religion you are, somebody weaponized that against you in the form of a slur. That definitely checks the box for me of you're allowed to punch that person 100% right? You're not. Again, like I said, you can't shoot them, can't stab them, can't if they're unconscious, kick them in the head. But one quick punch to the face, they deserve it. And I don't think a jury of your peers is going to hold you accountable. I think just like you know what, I'm going to tell my story. So I Now the flip side to that coin is claiming that happened when it didn't happen is an extra type of dirty and that that is from the same branch of something you've heard me say before, which is folks inability to take an L these days or folks inability be like I screwed up like that. So again I am. I want to be very careful here because I also have not heard DK say that's what the guy said. I. I think it would OO Cinco reported that DK told him. So I don't. Again, I, I don't know. I definitely don't know what was said definitively. I just know what the audio shows and the video shows. Seems to back up blue wig guy.

[Co-host Damanze]

Guy wouldn't have walked up there like that if he said that.

[Host]

I feel like. And I also feel like. I also feel like there is again, you can sometimes tell what was said by the reaction of folks around.

[Co-host Damanze]

Yeah.

[Host]

And the it. And so I.

[Co-host Damanze]

My body was feeling it like. Oh my gosh. Like.

[Host]

Yeah, it didn't seem like that. And again I. So I. The. I would not. I don't have enough evidence yet to make my own full mental ruling, but I know which way I'm leaning. Okay. So now that I've laid all this out there, I want to, I want to make this point which is of course DK Metcalf got suspended two games. The NFL. There are very few black and white lines that the NFL in particular has to maintain. And one of them is you can't hit the customers. And I feel more strongly about that, honestly, in the NFL than the NBA. Even though the NBA, they're on top of the court. Because. This is. I think you have to get in such a different mind frame to play pro football.

[Co-host Damanze]

They're gladiators and these are regular.

[Host]

While you're on the field, I think you have to like psych that, that it needs to be really, really instilled that you can't take that into the stands because I think it can go massive dude. It's a massive dude who's in like a, in that moment like warrior mentality. Like you know the we've seen plenty of these guys who in their day to day life are just like soft spoken, quiet, you know, peaceful people. But they have to get in a different so I just think the size plus the mindset, all of that, it becomes like legitimately dangerous. Not fake dangerous, legitimately dangerous. And so I, I, I, as soon as it happened I texted Bruin Wild. I was like he's going to be suspended a minimum of a game, maybe multiple now maybe. And I know it voids his guarantees. I actually don't think that matters that much because he's still a really good player. You only don't want your guarantee like the Steelers want to keep paying him. So that's not going to probably be a problem now next year. If he's terrible or if he suffers a terrible injury, then those voided guarantees could matter. But that's my general take on the DK Metcalf situation. Now we have an even more nuanced conversation to be had about my hometown Kansas City Chiefs and where they're going geographically. And some of this is going to be boring. Some of and you know what, I shouldn't say it's going to be boring. Some of this is going to be just real geography and some of it's going to be real politics and some of this is going to be municipal spending. But I'll make it all good. So go ahead.

[Ad Voice]

Support for the show comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On Public, you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index with AI. It all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year. You can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. The that's public.com podcast paid for by public investing brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors, llc. SEC Registered Advisor Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. Complete Disclosures available at public.comDisclosures running a.

Business is hard enough, so why make it harder? With a dozen different apps that don't talk to each other? One for sales, another for inventory, a separate one for accounting? Before you know it, you are drowning in software instead of growing your business. This is where Odoo comes in. In Odoo is the only business software you'll ever need. It's an all in one fully integrated platform that handles everything CRM, accounting, inventory, E commerce, HR and more. No more app overload, no more juggling logins, just one seamless system that makes work easier. And the best part? Odoo replaces multiple expensive platforms for a fraction of the cost. It's built to grow with your business whether you are just starting out or already scaling up. Plus, it's easy to use, customizable, and designed to streamline every process so you can focus on what really matters running your business. Thousands of businesses have made the switch, so why not you try Odoo for [e-mail] that's O D O O.com PCs.

Powered by Snapdragon X Elite processors are made to go the distance with blazing fast performance. Next level efficiency. Snapdragon processors are built to tackle it all, from highlight reel editing to intense player research, making it all feel effortless. And with multi day battery life, you got true freedom all right without being tethered to an outlet. So from long video calls to all day fantasy drafts, your laptop stays ready so you can be at the top of your game. It's the kind of performance your lifestyle demands, so make sure your next PC is powered by Snapdragon. Learn more at snapdragon.com laptops snapdragon the heart of your PC battery life varies significantly based on devices, setup, usage and other factors.

This podcast is sponsored by Total Wireless, the official wireless partner of ufc. When you're streaming the fight or sharing those takedown highlights, you need a wireless provider that keeps you close to the action. With Total Wireless, you're covered by the Verizon 5G network, so you don't have to worry about your connection being knocked out at the biggest moments. It's not something you can usually say about a wireless provider, but Total Wireless really does have your back. They're in your corner every second of the day so you never miss a thing. Visit totalwireless.com or visit your local Total Wireless Store to learn more about how Total Wireless can be in your corner. 5G access requires a 5G capable device and a 5G service area. Additional terms apply. See website for details.

The Chase Inc. Business Premier Card is made for people who make things happen. Like me. I'm Sam, Founder and CEO of Manifest, a product design company that makes everyday products design Smarter. I get 2.5% cash back on purchases of $5,000 or more, plus unlimited 2% cash back on all other purchases, which helps us make more smart ideas into a brilliant reality.

The Inc. Business Premier Card Chase for Business make more of what's yours Real business owner compensated for their participation cards.

[Host]

Issued by JPMorgan Morgan Chase Bank NA.

[Ad Voice]

Member FDIC subject to credit approval Terms apply.

[Co-host Damanze]

The season from hell becomes more hellacious. You guys lost Patrick, you guys lost your backup quarterback and Garden Minshew and you lost the Titans. And it seems like the Kansas City Chiefs are no longer going to be in Kansas City. They might be moving over to Kansas in 2030. How do you feel about this development?

[Host]

All right, first let me explain to people what it means. Kansas City. This it Kansas City. For all intents and purposes, when people hear about Kansas City, they are talking about the Missouri side. It is where I'm from. So weird kind of border rivalry, Missouri or Kansas, but I grew up one block off State Line Road. That is exactly what it sounds like. The line between Missouri and Kansas. Now, confusingly and oddly, the Missouri side of State Line Road is Kansas City. The Kansas side of State Line Road is not Kansas City, Kansas. That's a different part. Like there is a small part of Kansas City, Kansas that touches State Line Road, but most of it that touches State Line roads like Leawood or Olathe or different municipalities. Okay, you guys don't care about that. What you what does matter is this. The Chiefs are moving about 20 minutes west of where they currently play. So this has no impact on them being the Kansas City Chiefs because they were in Kansas City proper. Yes, but they are still in the greater Kansas City area. Just like The San Francisco 49ers play in Santa Clara. The New England Patriots, which people consider Boston's team, play in Foxborough. Like this is the the Detroit Pistons used to play at the palace at Auburn Hills and this happens there. This is not a team moving the way teams move. Like Baltimore going to Cleveland, that type of Or Cleveland going to Baltimore, either. That's not what this is at all now it does for me as a native Missouri and someone who's live lived his whole life. My dad was a Kansas City, Missouri firefighter I lived in on the Missouri side. And whenever people say to me oh you're from Kansas, I correct them, say no, I'm from Missouri. I hate that the Chiefs are leaving. I don't hate that Missouri was not held hostage by pro sports owners. And this is where we get into a little bit of tricky stuff. And then we will talk about the football piece of it because there is a real football piece of it. But this is so teams because the state of Kansas via Star Bonds and other stuff is going to pay more money for this chief stadium than any local government, which means taxpayers have paid for any stadium in the history of America, $1.8 billion. And I have always believed that the call it 15 biggest cities in the country, all of the mayors slash governors of those states should have gotten together a long time ago and said folks, we need to have an agreement amongst ourselves. We are not going to pay for pro sports team stadiums because they want to be in our cities. So New York, Louisiana, Dallas, Houston, Chicago, San Francisco, that your major markets, pro sports teams want to be there. The idea that they are going to leave is a bluff if you are a major major market. So you should never pay, never pay if you're in one of those markets. If you're in a smaller market, it does get trickier because we have seen teams leave smaller markets. And one can argue, and I have argued for a long time to use my hometown as a example, that the thing that distinct that makes Kansas City different from Des Moines, Iowa or Omaha, Nebraska is that we have the Chiefs and the Royals. That's it. We're a two sport pro sport city. And there is real economic and civic pride benefit to that. And Kansas City is not a huge market. So you pro, you can't just dare a team to leave the way LA could or New York could or Washington D.C. could because they might leave. Kansas City has lost teams before and so I don't think it While I understand the argument of there are better things to be putting paying taxpayer dollars for that is correct. I agree with that. In general I also understand why if you're Memphis losing the Grizzlies is scary as shit and it might be worth taxpayer dollars to make sure they stay. And so I think I the math is not the same for mid market or small market teams as it is for major market teams. That's just my opinion. I think I have data to back that up. But it's my gut feeling on having grown up in one of those places and feeling like I'm from somewhere. And because we have pro sports teams and so this doesn't change that for Kansas City. And they will still be the Kansas City Chiefs. Nobody, half the country thought they played in Kansas already anyway. Um, and I don't think I understand the gut reaction people have and I'm with you politically on this, that it is shameful the public subsidies we will give billion dollar sports teams when I mean the city, the state of Kansas has no public transportation. None. Don't get mad at me. Governor Laura Kelly. Like I'm sure there's a few bus routes. But like there are the, the, there's. There are things that money could be used for that probably would help a greater group of people. I get that. But I also do think that if you're in a city the size of one that a team might leave, losing that team can be devastating to the community. So I do think you have to weigh that. The, the problem for the cheat for that the Chiefs were able to play into specifically is because they're on a state line. They could play one state against the other and get basically demons a the benefit that you normally only get this type of. I mean 1.8 billion. It's the biggest public subsidy ever. You normally only get that something like that. If you are threatening your fan base with. We are moving like we are going to. We are. The Seattle SuperSonics are going to become the Oklahoma City Thunder because Kansas City, that is on a state line. They were able to get the benefit without ever having to threaten. They were never threatening to move to San Antonio. Right. Just like we'll just a 25 minute.

[Co-host Damanze]

Extra drive for whoever is going to the game previously.

[Host]

Right. You still get to play the states against each other. And this has been a problem for border cities. This is a bigger problem when it comes to business taxes and municipal funding. And again this is the part that could be boring. But I'm going to give a very simplistic story of what's happened in my hometown because it's on a state line. You'll have a business, not a sports team, a business that is based in Kansas and then politicians in Missouri because they want to say we added jobs to our community will give that business insane tax breaks to move its headquarters 15 minutes east over to Missouri. And that business can then not pay the taxes it was once paying. It has no impact whatsoever actually on who has the jobs. You're not adding jobs to your community. You're just stealing them off the books of Kansas to add them in Missouri or Missouri to add them to Kansas, vice versa or. But it's the same human beings working there. And that has, you know, been. That's a problem for mayors and city councils of border cities all the time. Like how do we. Because it ends up being a. Not a zero sum game. A game a zero sum for the overall community, but a huge win for the. A zero sum for the employment of the overall community or while being a huge win for the bottom line of corporations. But that's a sidebar. Now to the football piece of it because here is the tangible effect. The Chiefs are going to play in a dome stadium starting in 2031.

[Co-host Damanze]

Hey, that's awesome. I don't know how you feel about that.

[Host]

That. That's awesome.

[Co-host Damanze]

I love the domes.

[Host]

I hate it.

[Co-host Damanze]

So you need the snow games. The. That real effect of the. The. The weather.

[Host]

Yeah, I like that.

[Co-host Damanze]

Patrick's gonna be lighting it up in there, man. So this was the other quarterback.

[Host]

Here's the. So very short term, very selfish. I like the dome for Patrick's late 30s.

[Co-host Damanze]

Oh. And then the new guy is gonna be playing in the dome the whole time.

[Host]

So. So. So if we are just talking about maximizing like Mahomes his career, having the fact that his age 35 and older seasons will be in a dome is probably good.

[Co-host Damanze]

Yeah.

[Host]

Okay. That's probably. That to me is not worth the trade off of football. Slowly but surely eliminating weather as a component. Like I think we are moving towards a reality of in a decade there are maybe three or four stadiums in the country where weather plays a part. And I don't like that for football. I think football is a game made to be played in the elements. I don't mind domes in warm weather places because it feels like that's actually like the elements aren't going to be a big issue there anyway. And so it allows you to host more events. Fine. And I don't mind the dome in Minnesota only because that specific place can get. So maybe it's just because I'm used to it, but it can get so much snow that they have like cancel games. But I guess Buffalo. So it's probably just because I'm used to it, but I don't like football removing the elements. And the idea that because they build this stadium Kansas City is going to get a bunch of Super Bowls is just not true. I think they will probably get one and people will complain about the super bowl being in Kansas City. And you know what? They should because the super bowl should not be in Kansas City. I Super bowl shouldn't. I'm from there. I love it. Super bowl should not have ever been in Minneapolis. It shouldn't have ever been in Indianapolis. It shouldn't be in Kansas City. The super bowl should.

[Co-host Damanze]

What does it need to be in New Orleans or wait, what happened New.

[Host]

Orleans, Miami, Vegas, la. That's where the super bowl elitist.

[Co-host Damanze]

Okay.

[Host]

No cities. It's. Yeah, I guess. I mean New Orleans isn't a big market. It's just awesome.

[Co-host Damanze]

Yeah.

[Host]

And the. And so I think we have seen cities that can do and I'd be honestly okay with LA not being included. I'd be fine with it just being Vegas, Miami, New Orleans, like that. That being the rotation. You can make the argument for Phoenix, but I just think they're not the idea that Kansas City is because they're add this is going to be a part of a Super bowl rotation. That's not going to happen. It's not going to be every 10 years the biggest sporting event in the country headquarters in Wyandotte county for in February. It's just not happening. But the big My biggest thing is on the field. I I don't like. I like that weather matters and I like that the Buffalo and Kansas City and Baltimore and Pittsburgh and New England have to be able to play in multiple settings. And I just. I so yes, I think it'll be good for the end of, you know, the last quarter of Patrick's career, but it's to me a bit of a bummer. And the other bummer is this. You're going to go from 80,000 seats to about 68,000. And I'm going to be very interested. And I really hope that they that they find a way because I think the tailgating will be great no matter what. One thing Clark Hunt said yesterday that's true is parking lots don't tailgate. People do. That's correct. I think the tailgating pregame stuff, I trust they will make sure that stays sacrosanct because when like if there's ever a reason to go to a NFL game, going to Arrowhead to tailgate before the game is one of the greatest things in the NFL. And I think that will stay. But I wonder if they're going to be able like and. But the other thing Clark said is seats and concrete don't make noise. Fans do. That is true. But certain stadiums are more conducive for noise. Than others. And Arrowhead has been the loudest open air stadium in the country forever. And I just hope they are able to recreate that.

[Co-host Damanze]

Is it. Is it going to have a new name? Well, still going to be Arrowhead.

[Host]

I would imagine they'll still call it Arrowhead. They've already kind of sold on that because it's technically GEHA Field at Arrowhead. And I've never totally understood naming. Right. Sponsorships. Like I don't know that anyone has paid more attention to the Kansas City Chiefs. I really don't know that anyone in the world has paid more attention to the Kansas City Chiefs than me certainly since. Because the stadium's only been named that for like five years of the field in that time. Twitter. And I still don't. But I still don't know what G H A is. Yeah, I have no idea. I, I have no clue what the. What I. I don't know. Do they sell insurance? Is it. Are they a con? I have a console. I, I don't know what it is. So it's. It's always Arrowhead to me. But that's the, the positive and the negative. That's what it is. Now. Will Kansas City get a Final Four? Maybe. Like Will. They're like having a domed stadium. There is. There are benefits for it. Go ahead.

[Co-host Damanze]

Is Government Employees Health Association.

[Host]

Still don't know what it means. Does that mean they. They, they. Does that mean they compete with the company that Gronk advertises for? So it is. They're the competitors of Gronk's company. What's that. What's the Gronk insurance company where he's like, I wasn't in the military. My granddad was. Yeah. Okay, so GEHA and USAA are competitors. All right, good for them.

[Co-host Damanze]

Do you, do you think that there's. I'm sorry, I just cut you off. Do you think there's going to be any teams that hold out on this open air stadium closed? Like, could you see Green Bay being like the last team with an open open stadium in 30 years?

[Host]

Buffalo's building a new stadium and Buffalo's new stadium doesn't have a roof. Right. Fact check me on that.

[Co-host Damanze]

Okay, well that, that's good for something then. Yeah.

[Host]

Yeah. And. But it's Buffalo.

[Co-host Damanze]

Yeah.

[Host]

It's not a dog and it's Buffalo. But I, I don't know. The Chiefs playing in a dome feels weird to me. I'm sure I get used to it. And if. And if old Mahomes is just lighting people up, maybe I'll be fine with it, but maybe because I'm a.

[Co-host Damanze]

Not a savant and like a football historian, I just don't see why you would want, like, and this is, like, I hear a lot of people. That's their take. They want there to be snow, the inclement weather. Why would you not just want them to perform to their best ability like any other sport? Like, I feel like there's no other.

[Host]

Sport, an outdoor sport.

[Co-host Damanze]

It's.

[Host]

Because. So that's. So that's where. That's where.

[Co-host Damanze]

Go ahead. I'm sorry.

[Host]

I disagree with you. No, what you're saying. A lot of people feel that way. It just. It just depends on how you look at it. I look at being great at football intrinsically, meaning that you can have different types of game plans and different abilities in different weather. Because I think that is part of building a team. I think part of building a team is teaching them how to exploit different weather conditions. I think that is as intrinsic to the game as kick returning. Like, that's part of it. And I think removing it, people. A lot of people feel like, oh, you remove it, and that then makes it more pure. I feel like it makes it less pure. And I understand in basketball, that doesn't exist. Every. The same. All of it.

[Co-host Damanze]

Like soccer. Like, I mean, I don't know if they play soccer. Definitely, they play soccer in the snow or like, light snow. They obviously like heavy rain. That's fair.

[Host]

But the soccer is an outdoor sport, and being able to handle heat is a bigger thing in soccer. Like.

[Co-host Damanze]

Yeah, yeah, the. Yeah. Yeah. I guess I'm always looking for the light show. I've seen these games, but that's fair game.

[Host]

That's the way the NFL's moving. That. It just bums me out. I mean. But again, I'm a grandpa now.

[Co-host Damanze]

And I'm sorry to those historians that stuff has changed.

[Host]

No, it's fine. I just. So many of the, like, the great moments in NFL history are playoff games in the elements, and that'll be a bummer for me, but, you know, nothing to cry about. I just. I don't love it. That, to me, matters a lot more than the fact that they're moving 20 minutes west across state lines. Want to know where I bet on sports during the holiday season? Hard Rock Bet. Not just because it's the presenting sponsor of our show, but because they make it easy to bet both pregame and live in just a few simple taps. Open the app, find a bet I like, and then, bam. Bets placed just in time for me to get back to wrapping presents and enjoying my favorite Christmas movie. We actually watched National Lampoon's Holiday Vacation last night. As cliche as that is, sign up today and bet $5 on any game. If it wins, you also score $150 in bonus bets, a winning bet plus an extra $150 to bet with. That's spreading holiday cheer. Plus Hard Rock bet fills your stockings with new promos daily, so whenever you're listening, just open the app and check out what you've got. Any day of the week, download the Hard Rock Bet app and make your first deposit today. Payable and bonus bets Not a cash offer offered by the Seminole Tribe of Florida in Florida Offered by Seminole hard Rock Digital LLC in all other states. Must be 21 plus and physically present in Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee or Virginia to play. Terms and conditions apply. Concerned about gambling in Florida? Call 1888-Admitted in Indiana. If you or someone you know has a gambling problem and wants help, call call 1-809 with it gambling problem, call 1-800- gambler in Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee or Virginia.

[Ad Voice]

Support for the show comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On public, you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index with AI. It all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy coming companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year, you can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S P500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member finra NSIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors, llc. SEC Registered Advisor Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. Complete Disclosures available at public.comDisclosures running a.

Business is hard enough, so why make it harder With a dozen different apps that don't talk to each other. One for sales, another for inventory, a separate one for accounting. Before you know it, you are drowning in software. Instead of growing your business. This is where Odoo comes in. Odoo is the only business software you'll ever need. It's an all in one fully integrated platform that handles everything CRM, accounting, inventory, E commerce, HR and more. No more app overload, no more juggling logins, just one seamless system that makes work easier. And the best part? Odoo replaces multiple expensive platforms for a fraction of the cost. It's built to grow with your business whether you are just starting out or already scaling. Plus, it's easy to use, customizable and designed to streamline every process so you can focus on what really matters running your business. Thousands of businesses have made the switch, so why not you try Odoo for [e-mail] that's O D O O.com PCs.

Powered by Snapdragon X Elite processors are made to go the distance with blazing fast performance. Next level efficiency Snapdragon processors are built to tackle it all, from highlight reel editing to intense player research, making it all feel effortless. And with multi day battery life, you got true freedom all right without being tethered to an outlet. So from long video calls to all day fantasy drafts, your laptop stays ready so you can be at the top of your game. It's the kind of performance your lifestyle demands, so make sure your next PC is powered by Snapdragon. Learn more at snapdragon.com laptops snapdragon the heart of your PC battery life varies significantly based on devices, setup, usage and other factors.

This podcast is sponsored by Total Wireless, the official wireless partner of ufc. When you're streaming the fight or sharing those takedown highlights, you need a wireless provider that keeps you close to the action. With Total Wireless, you're covered by the Verizon 5G network, so you don't have to worry about your connection being knocked out at the biggest moments. It's not something you can usually say about a wireless provider, but Total Wireless really does have your back. They're in your corner every second of the day, so you never miss a thing. Visit totalwireless.com or visit your local Total Wireless store to learn more about how Total Wireless can be in your corner. 5G access requires a 5G capable device and a 5G service area. Additional terms apply. See website for details.

The Chase Inc. Business Premier card is made for people who make things happen. Like me. I'm Sam, founder and CEO of Manifest, a product design company that makes everyday products design Smarter. I get 2.5% cash back on purchases of $5,000 or more plus unlimited 2% cash back on all other purchases, which helps us make more smart ideas into a brilliant reality.

[Host]

The Inc Business Premier Card Chase for.

[Ad Voice]

Business make more of what's yours Real business owner compensated for their participation. Cards issued by JP Morgan Chase Bank N a member FDIC subject to credit approval terms apply.

[Host]

All right, Damanze, let's get to Sunday Night Football and some of the other games.

[Co-host Damanze]

Ravens hanging by a thread. Drake May was looking poor in the first half. Rallied. Lamar Jackson came out of the game with I think like a rib injury. We lost the game. Now we have a 7% chance of making the playoffs.

[Host]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Co-host Damanze]

How who do you think this is bigger on the Ravens or Patriots? I think.

[Host]

Well listen, I think it's a. Let me start with the Patriots and what was I'm trying to remember because there was a clip from last week's show. Was it about Lamar? What was the clip? Maybe the producers saw it as well. There is a clip of I did some take that I don't even know if Demons a agreed with but it was massively aggregated and it was aggregated with the Monze and I split screen and I always find this funny because I wasn't. Do you guys remember what I'm talking about? Was it my. Was it last week from. It was from Thursday's show. I I can't even remember what we talked about on Thursday.

[Co-host Damanze]

But regardless, Lamar's health nyquil and sickness and stuff and. But it was something else other than that probably there.

[Host]

That's what I'm trying to remember. What are if I had our rundown from last week in front of me, I could, I could think of it. I was trying to think if it's Lamar because the reason I thought of that is it might happen again this week. But the let's start with the Patriots. I think that was a growing up moment for Drake.

[Co-host Damanze]

Drake.

[Host]

I think that Drake was playing one of his worst games of the year and for him to rally the way he did and make the. I mean he obviously had the one great deep pass that was robbed from him on the Ms. DPI but didn't matter. He had already the. The touchdown pass he threw to the front corner of the end zone.

[Co-host Damanze]

Yeah.

[Host]

Was unbelievable. I thought that was great and I, I think that on top of that. Hold on. I think Paul just texted to me. Oh this is what it was. Sorry. It was the thank you Paul. It was the WIMBY stuff. It was me saying I don't need to be lectured by a 20 year old French kid that the people got super mad at that take and you're just sitting there like listening like it's just super funny. Thank you, Paul. The. No, the people got mad at I think my Lamar takes from tv but. Sorry, I'm interrupting myself. I thought the Drake May touchdown pass was unbelievable. The bomb was unbelievable. The fourth and two play which kept him alive to go win the game. It was just a pass to the sideline, but it was an absolute laser that I thought was going to be knocked down. He was excellent. And Drake May's the real deal.

[Co-host Damanze]

Yeah. He can't deny that at this point.

[Host]

And the Patriots, they had to win that game because while I thought sometimes the schedule stuff got a little overblown, if they had played that soft schedule and then lost to Buffalo and Baltimore, it'd be like, okay, you know what I mean? They're.

[Co-host Damanze]

Who are we there? A really.

[Host]

Yeah, they're. Oh, they're ahead of schedule. They're better than all the JV teams, but they're not an A lister and I think they proved their A listers and so I think that is, that's the Patriots piece of it. And they've got, they got their quarterback.

[Co-host Damanze]

The guy looks like. I think that guy's going to be in the league for a really, really long time. Seems like.

[Host]

Yeah, yeah, I I solid, man. I think he is just going to be a top five quarterback moving forward. I He's legit. He is without a doubt legit. And then you get to the Ravens and there's a lot here. They blew another big lead. Everyone's blaming Harbaugh. They didn't give the ball to. They didn't have Derrick Henry on the field for their last two possessions. People are understandably blaming Harbaugh. Another. Can I call it without people freaking out. Weird injury thing with Lamar.

[Co-host Damanze]

He. I do, I do feel strongly that he could have came back in the game watching the like and it's, and it's a rib injury. I do think he could have come back in that game and I don't like doing that or like being like so I don't know what the guy was feeling, but I don't know. Like he was moving around. He's like on the side. Like, I under, like, I've had a rib injury before and I just, I don't know. I felt like he could have kept playing, especially in that situation. We have the game. We just need you to manage.

[Host]

But I so listen, I hate that you're the one that said that instead of me because, and I want this, if this gets aggregated people to understand this is devontae's favorite team and the guy he's ridden with more than anybody. Yeah, but I was shocked he didn't go back in. And when he didn't go back in, let me rephrase that. I was not shocked he didn't go back in. We didn't go back in. I assumed we were going to get the news yesterday that he broke his ribs, that he had cracked ribs, that even though the hit didn't, the, the knee didn't look that bad. But you never know. You know how that is. And so I just assumed like, oh man, there's like he's, he probably isn't going to play this coming week and that's, it's a wrap. And when Harbaugh came out yesterday and said it's just a bad contusion and he's day to day, I was stunned. Now again, it's weird because Lamar is obviously tough and obviously he's, he cares.

[Co-host Damanze]

He's also like 100%.

[Host]

So I, so that's why I'm saying it's just another weird injury thing with Lamar where now he has suffered a hamstring injury that nobody saw when it happened but obviously was a real one. Like a not real as opposed to real versus fake. I should have said a significant one to where he missed multiple games, including a game after a buy that his coach thought he would be back for and then had knee, ankle, toe injuries that made him miss practice but not miss any games. But he then wasn't effective in the games. Then his, you know, annual December cold had a missed practice and now what looked like a relatively banal play knocked him out for the most critical half of their season. Basically playing an elimination game. It's just weird. And I'm not trying to be like cagey with my analysis here. I'm not trying to hint at anything, but I'm also not going to act like it's not weird. And it's very, very hard not to go to the other quarterbacks in Lamar's tax bracket and echelon and not ask you something. Do we think they would have an injury that the next day their coach calls day to day and expects them to play the next week, that we wouldn't have seen them back on the field, at least trying, seeing, giving it a go and then maybe, okay, this isn't going to work. I don't know. I feel like you would have. And so it's just odd And I.

[Co-host Damanze]

Go back to Baltimore. See, like with the situation, Harbaugh, whatever.

[Host]

It is, let me tweak that. There you go. I don't. Because I said this a few weeks ago, I don't think he wants out. I think he might be over Harbaugh and that this has run its course and that Lamar is resigned to the fact that this is a lost season and it is a lost season. And this was the. The biggest thing I said yesterday on TV that I think people maybe took issue with. But again, we won't know for five years. But I'll. I think this will age well. I am not saying Lamar will never make or win a Super Bowl. What I am saying is I think when his career is over, we will look at the best chances he had were these past three years. They were the solitary super bowl favorite at multiple points in each of the last three seasons. They were the super bowl preseason favorite this year. And to come out of these three years with two total playoff victories come out of the 2000s so far, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25 with two total playoff victories is stunning. And now I think you start a new era with a new head coach. Damanze, before we move on to Pittsburgh side of it, I want to give you some news. Zay Flowers named to the Pro bowl this morning. Now, go ahead. I know you have a potential. Zay Flowers take.

[Co-host Damanze]

Just run straight, man. Please, just run straight and just be a little bit tighter with the football. I just think that there have been a couple of big situations and the biggest point of the season, I think the guy is loose with the football. He's trying to play like backyard football or something, making these cuts backwards. And that's not like the only time that I've seen him do that. But just in the bigger instances, it's like, dude, just. Just be tighter with the football. Don't try to get it all in one play to go down or something. It's just kind of frustrating to see something.

[Host]

And he has said he was going to do that.

[Co-host Damanze]

Yeah.

[Host]

And then he has not done that.

[Co-host Damanze]

He's loose, just loose.

[Host]

And it's the end. He doesn't fumble a lot. But you remember the fumbles. Yeah, you're. You remember they're big moments. All right. This also got, you know, there's extra bad for Baltimore because of Pittsburgh's great win earlier in the day. I know you have a question about that.

[Co-host Damanze]

What'd you think of the end of that game? Pittsburgh, Detroit.

[Host]

So I, I thought a couple Things one is this. You're the Detroit Lions with Dan the Man Campbell. You're biting kneecaps. You have first and goal from the one with 22 seconds and a timeout. Run the ball. Run the ball. You ran a little fancy little pick play. You got Opi like you're supposed to be this big, strong, tough, smash mouth.

[Co-host Damanze]

Team run game was getting cooked that day. No, I understand the one yard line. I get it.

[Host]

You're at the one yard line. So that's first point. That was on the first Opi. The second Opi. I don't know if I love that Opi call. I also don't think that should have mattered because Amanra St. Brown by any definition ever was short of the end zone on fourth down. And here's the critical piece. Had his momentum stopped, his forward progress was stopped. Now they didn't blow it dead, but that was asinine. Had there not been a called OPI and that Aman Ross St. Brown lateral, which happened three seconds and five yards after he was first hit when he was pushed backwards, had they not said that play was blown dead, that would have been an outrage. Because the reason, you know, his forward momentum was stopped and everyone thought the play was over was the other Steelers could have gone up and hit him as well. There were two pushing him, but they didn't because they knew obviously that play was supposed to be over. So I didn't think Detroit got screwed. I do think Pittsburgh, where I have to give him credit to Monza, is they're playing their best ball. Rogers is playing his best ball, you. And here is the important thing for Pittsburgh. If you beat the Browns, your old ass team with your old ass quarterback, you can give yourselves a bye week that's super valuable because you beat the BROWNS and week 18 is truly, wholly and entirely meaningless for you. You will have locked up the four seed, you will not be able to improve your seed. And you can just rest Rogers, rest whomever else DK is going to be resting either way. And you'll be at home for two weeks leading into the playoffs, which is a home game. So Steelers beat the Browns and they all of a sudden, depending on who they draw, are live. Now, I don't think they're live against Buffalo, but Buffalo's not guaranteed to be the 5 seed. And so that's a great weekend for Pittsburgh. All right, let's go on to the other game. Actually, before we do that, Damanze, let me do this. You ever notice how everything keeps going up, Rents going up streaming services Going up. Your favorite burrito spot thinks salsa should cost extra. But with Boost Mobile, you and your phone bill don't have to play the Will this go up Soon? Game. Why? Because Boost Mobile has unlimited talk, text and data plan at a price that'll never go up. In fact, same price you'll pay for Life. So switch now for unlimited wireless at a price that'll never go up. Only at boost mobile. After 30 gigs, customers may experience slower speeds. Customers will pay $25 per month as long as they remain active on the Boost Unlimited plan.

[Ad Voice]

Support for the show comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On Public, you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index. With AI. It all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year, you can look literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S P500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors llc. SEC Registered Advisor Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. Complete Disclosures available at public.comDisclosures running a.

Business is hard enough, so why make it harder with a dozen different apps that don't talk to each other. One for sales, another for inventory, a separate one for accounting. Before you know it, you are drowning in software instead of growing your business. This is where Odoo comes in. Odoo is the only business software you'll ever need. It's an all in one fully integrated platform that handles everything CRM, accounting, inventory, E commerce, HR and more. No more app overload, no more juggling logins, just one seamless system that makes work easier. And the best part? Odoo replaces multiple expensive platforms for a fraction of the cost. It's built to grow with your business whether you are just starting out or already scaling up. Plus it's easy to use, customizable and designed to streamline every process so you can focus on what really matters running your business. Thousands of businesses have made the switch, so why not you try Odoo for [e-mail] that's O D O O.com PCs.

Powered by Snapdragon X Elite processors are made to go the distance with blazing fast performance. Next level efficiency Snapdragon processors are built to tackle it all, from highlight reel editing to intense player research making it all feel effortless. And with multi day battery life, you got true freedom all right without being tethered to an outlet. So from long video calls to all day fantasy drafts, your laptop stays ready so you can be at the top of your game. It's the kind of performance your lifestyle demands, so make sure your next PC is powered by Snapdragon. Learn more at snapdragon.com laptops snapdragon the heart of your PC battery life varies significantly based on devices, setup, usage and other factors.

This podcast is sponsored by Total Wireless, the official wireless partner of ufc. When you're streaming the fight or sharing those takedown highlights, you need a wireless provider that keeps you close to the action. With Total Wireless, you're covered by the Verizon 5G network, so you don't have to worry about your connection being knocked out at the biggest moments. It's not something you can usually say about a wireless provider, but Total Wireless really does have your back. They're in your corner every second of the day, so you never miss a thing. Visit totalwireless.com or visit your local Total Wireless store to learn more about how Total Wireless can be in your corner. 5G access requires a 5G cable device and a 5G service area. Additional terms apply. See website for details.

The Chase Inc. Business Premier Card is made for people who make things happen. Like me. I'm Sam, founder and CEO of Manifest, a product design company that makes everyday products design Smarter. I get 2.5% cash back on purchases of $5,000 or more, plus unlimited 2% cash back on all other purchases, which helps us make more smart ideas into a brilliant reality.

The Ink Business Premier Card Chase your business. Make more with yours. Real business owner compensated for their participation cards issued by JP Morgan Chase bank and a member fdic subject to credit approval. Terms apply.

[Host]

All right, let's keep going with these other games.

[Co-host Damanze]

Caleb Williams and the Comeback over Green Bay I saw some beautiful stuff from this guy over the weekend. Jordan Love got knocked out of the game with, I think a concussion. Didn't matter though because Willis came in and he was cooking too, so I Think this is still a solid win. Cook the the onside kick into overtime. Some dots into the end zone.

[Host]

How.

[Co-host Damanze]

How. What should Bears fans expectations be at this point of the season?

[Host]

Well listen that was an unbelievable win and post onside kick Caleb was unreal. The fourth down throw to say keep the game alive was perfect. The overtime touchdown pass was perfect. Now you do have to acknowledge that all of Caleb's great moments happened after an onside kick. And that means by definition they were incredibly lucky that they had a chance for those to happen. Like onside kicks just you. You cover 10% of them. And so but that's football like that the sometimes you need that little opening to redeem yourself. And now the Bears are locked into the playoffs feeling great and I think feeling like we can play better because Caleb's highs have been unbelievable. But he hasn't been consistent yet. That is like a fair critique. But the is it fair to say.

[Co-host Damanze]

That he hasn't been like really bad either though? Like I feel like he's no right like if that's right either mid to great.

[Host]

I think that's a great way to put it. He is. He has had high highs and high lows.

[Co-host Damanze]

Right.

[Host]

But he has not had enough like last year. Solid.

[Co-host Damanze]

Yeah.

[Host]

So. And he just hasn't been consistent enough. But you see it and and if you're. You mentioned Malik Willis, I want to say something about him and Matt Laflore. Like Malik Willis has been excellent as a backup for them. He might get a look somewhere next year because of this. And there is a real benefit to now having the track record that Matt LaFleur built with Malik Willis which is you should always have a good backup quarterback now because quarterbacks that are trying to rebuild their value will want to go to Green Bay and he clearly can coach these guys up. So that has like a real long term impact and effect. I'm checking right now. I think Malik Willis is a free agent after this year. Yeah. Because he was still on his rookie deal. So Malik Willis could be looking at like one of those one year ten $12 million deals from a team that stop gap situation. Like could. Could the Colts sign him while they're waiting on Daniel Jones to recover? Something like that. Like I think that's on the board. So I think that is interesting. I also think that because of Detroit's loss Green Bay is going to be fine but the injuries are just piling up on them and they're not. Here's the the scenario for the Lions to get in and the packers to be out is very simple. The packers have to lose out and the Lions have to win out. Now that's not outrageous. When you say there's only two games left, it would mean the packers have to lose to Baltimore and to Minnesota. Two seven and eight disappointing teams. I know in our head one team's way better than the other, but they're not. So the packers would have to lose to Baltimore and in Minnesota and the Lions would have to beat Minnesota and Chicago in the final week of the year. So packers aren't in, but it would take a disaster. And that also means Lions are basically out. All right, let's talk about my favorite game of the weekend. Demons.

[Co-host Damanze]

So your Jags and Trevor Lawrence went and hung 34 on that top rated defense in Denver. Nobody's believed in this team except for you through and through. Are you ready to take a victory lap or are your sights higher for them in the postseason?

[Host]

Sites are higher. Man gotta be playing out of his mind. Nobody. I didn't expect that good against that Denver defense. Nobody. And Trevor carved him up.

[Co-host Damanze]

Yeah.

[Host]

And they now they have a sneaky. Not sneaky, but they have a path to the one seed. So let me tell you explain what it is. They have to win out, obviously. Who do they play? They are in Indy, which just saw essentially their season end last night and home for the Titans. 2 0. No problem. If they so if they do that we go to the old athletic playoff predictor. They have. If they go 2 0, they have a 30% chance of the three seed, a 52% chance of the two seed and a 18% chance of the one seed. So how do they get the one seed? Again, this part's pretty simple as well. The Broncos are going to beat the Chiefs. So we can't ask for the Broncos to beat the the Chiefs to beat the Broncos. But if the Broncos then lose to the chargers in Week 18, then what the Jags would need to be the 1 seed is the Patriots to lose. It's hard, I'm not going to lie either to the jets or the Dolphins. And then so what the what the Jags need is the Patriots and Broncos to lose at least once. And they'll be the one seed. What I am more interested in is how do they get the two seed they Because I think that's more realistic. I think it's the same thing, actually. They need the they for them to get the two seed. They need the Patriots to lose once. Wait, is that not right? Hold on. Maybe I'm confused here. Let me look The. I might be confused on this one because this says the more likely if the Patriots win. Oh. Because they get that they have the tiebreaker with New England and. Hold on. Is this correct? I have to look this up real quick. Sorry. I care about the Jags. I'm the only person the. They do have. They. They would have the tiebreaker with New England, but New England. I'm so confused by this right now. Hold on. Let me. Let me figure this out real quick.

[Co-host Damanze]

Oh.

[Host]

Hold on. You know what? This is bad podcasting. I'm not. Regardless, they're in great shape and Trevor's playing great and Liam Cohen's been awesome. There's just no way around it.

[Co-host Damanze]

If they go on a deep playoff run, do you think it would ease the pain of your chief season this year?

[Host]

Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Can you imagine? I gotta tell you, just like right back up how obnoxious I'm going to be if Trevor makes a Super bowl before Lamar and Josh. Come on.

[Co-host Damanze]

Yeah.

[Host]

Oh, my goodness gracious. All right, let's talk Thursday Night Football, quick.

[Co-host Damanze]

So, yeah, that game, Seahawks ended up pulling out. Pulling out the comeback last night. 49ers made sure we didn't forget about them and they beat the crap out of the Colts. I gotta. I gotta be honest. I turned that game off. The Seahawks was it?

[Host]

Se.

[Co-host Damanze]

Seahawks. Rams. Darnold threw the pick.

[Host]

16.

[Co-host Damanze]

It was like 30. 14. Yeah. 30 to 14 with nine minutes left. They came back. Yeah. How are we feeling about the nfc?

[Host]

Yeah, listen, I think the Rams are the best team, but that's a devastating loss.

[Co-host Damanze]

And.

[Host]

Darnold was awesome in overtime. And maybe that'll be a fork in the road moment for him. But every concern you had about Darnold going into that game, he lived up to those concerns for the first three and a half quarters. Seattle is such an excellent team. They. They were able to overcome it. And Rashid Shahid's punt return was great. And. But I still think the Rams are the best team. And the Niners. Credit to Shanahan. Credit to Purdy, who was great last night. Again, every. The. Somehow we're gonna have another where I'm gonna be drawn into more Brock Purdy arguments, even though we saw Mac Jones step in for him and be a B plus version of him, which proved everything I always said about that offense and that team. But whatever. It's just my destiny to have to always are. To have to argue about the 49ers quarterback, be proven right through an odd real life NFL experiment and then have Folks pretend that it's just coincidence that everything I said would happen is exactly what happened. But Purdy was excellent. I don't think the Niners defense is good enough for a playoff run, but their offense is elite right now, so I would power rank it Rams, Seahawks, Niners. What is interesting though is the Seahawks and Niners are the teams that control their own destiny for a one seed and the Rams ability. So if the because the Seahawks have two games left, Bears, Niners, if they win both, they get the one seed and the buy. The Niners have two games left. I'm sorry I said that wrong. By the way, the Niners two games left are Bears, Seahawks. If they win both of those games, they get the one seed, they get the buy. The Seahawks have two games left, Panthers, Niners, if they win both those games, they get the one seed, they get the buy. For the Rams to get the one seed, they need a very specific set of things to happen because obviously they have to go two and oh, they play Falcons, Cardinals and then their smoothest path would be the Panthers beating the Seahawks and then the Seahawks beating the Bears. But then they also need the Bears not to Seahawks beating the Niners is the last thing. I apologize, I'm explaining this poorly. I'm going to try again. For the Rams to be the one seed, they need to go two and oh, and then their easiest path would be Panthers beat the Seahawks, Seahawks beat the Niners, and then either the Bears lose to the Lions or the Bears lose to the Niners. So they need somehow essentially the Rams do the Bears, Seahawks and 49ers to all lose at least once, which is tricky because they play each other. And so the Rams ability to get the one seed is quite slim. And I think that matters because again, weather matters. They would be they would have been in sofi, they'd had the rest. So I think they're the best team. But that loss is devastating to them and I I still can't believe they lost the game the way they did. All right, let me quickly go through these other games. Eagles beat the Commanders and Marcus Mariota slash Josh Johnson. Saquon looks great. Jalen played really well. We'll see. Eagles big test this weekend against Buffalo. Panthers beat the Bucks in a game. I can't. I'm not going to explain all the ins and outs of it. The short version is this. Given the way Sunday football went, had Baker not thrown that interception, I would have taken the money that Damanze had loaned me earlier in the day that I talked about earlier and spun it into $41,000. That is not an exaggeration. That is not a. Oh, you needed all these things to happen. It's very simple. Had the Bucks won that game thanks to a very savvy bet I placed with our friends at Hard Rock, I would have hit a nice little Christmas $41,000 bonus.

[Co-host Damanze]

Are you done?

[Host]

And Baker threw one of the worst picks of.

[Co-host Damanze]

That was a really bad pick. He was like peeking or he was peeking around his old lineman.

[Host]

I can't. I can't talk about it. I can't talk. Bills beat the Browns 23:20 in a game. Josh Allen didn't have to do anything. Which is crazy because all I hear about is how Josh Allen has no help. I don't know. Having the freaking rushing champ in James Cook seems like a little bit of help. But what do I know? There's Chargers beat the Cowboys in a game I got dead wrong. Justin Herbert played great. I think you know, he was just named to the Pro Bowl. By the way, it's Josh Allen. Drake made Justin Herbert shout out. Herbert. Texans beat the Raiders in a game that nobody watched. But the Texans looked awful. And the Texans offense has been shaky all year long. All year. Bengals beat the Dolphins 45:21. Quinn, yours not really an NFL quarterback. And the Bengals ripped up the Dolphins defense. Vikings beat the Jets 1613 in the game. I didn't spend a second watching, but I saw Jackson dart through for 33 yards and played the whole game. That seems weird. Saints. He played the whole game. Demons A Saints beat the Jets 29 to 6. Tyler Shuck continues to play well and Falcons beat the Cardinals 26 to 19 in a game that happened, but I have no proof of it. All right, thank you to everybody. We're going to step aside here. We have a Week 17 gambling show coming to you tomorrow. We will bring that to you guys tomorrow. We're gonna have to firing into these lines early in the week. See how we do. We'll do that tomorrow. Thank you to Volume and Blue Duck. Thank you to Hard Rock, Bet Boost and Zen. Talk to you guys tomorrow for the gambling show. What's right?

[Co-host Damanze]

What are you reaching for?

[Host]

If you're a smoker or dipper, you could be reaching for so much more with Zynn nicotine pouches. When you reach for Zyn, you're reaching for 10 satisfying varieties in two strengths. For a smoke free and spit free experience that lets you lean in for chances to break free from your routine and a unique nationwide community. Whatever you're reaching for Reach for it with America's number one nicotine pouch brand. Find yours in wherever nicotine products are sold near you. Warning. This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical. The day begins at the Chase Sapphire Lounge by the club at Boston Logan Airport.

[Co-host Damanze]

You get the clam chowder in San.

[Host]

Diego, it's Tostadas New York Espresso Martini.

[Co-host Damanze]

It's 10am why not?

[Host]

It's the quiet before your next flight, the shower that resets your day, the menu that lets you know where you are. This is access to over 1300 airport lounges and every Sapphire Lounge by the club. And one card that gets you in Chase Sapphire Reserve the most rewarding card. Learn [e-mail] Sapphire Reserve cards issued by.

[Ad Voice]

JPMorgan Chase bank and a member FDIC.

[Host]

Subject to credit report okay, only 10.

[Ad Voice]

More presents to wrap. You're almost at the finish line.

[Host]

But first, There the last one. Enjoy a Coca Cola for a bottle. Pause that. Refreshes. If a Lenovo gaming computer is on your holiday list, don't shop around. Just go directly to the source Lenovo.com it's your last chance to score exclusive.

[Ad Voice]

Deals on the gaming PCs you want.

[Host]

Like the Lenovo Legion Tower 5 Gen.

[Ad Voice]

10 gaming desktop and Lenovo Lock Gaming Laptop.

[Host]

So avoid all that shopping chaos and price comparing, and just go directly to the source.

[Ad Voice]

Course lenovo.com where PCs are up to 35% off. That's lenovo.com.

Running a business is hard enough. Don't make it harder with a dozen apps that don't talk to each other. One for sales, another for inventory, a separate one for accounting. That's software overload. Odoo is the all in one platform that replaces them all. CRM, accounting, inventory, eCommerce, HR. Fully integrated, easy to use, and built to grow with your business. Thousands have already made the switch. Why not you try Odoo for free at odoo. Com? That's odoo. Com.

[Host]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Ad Voice]

Guaranteed Human.