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Nick Wright
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Matt Jones
Matt Jones, I'm Drew Franklin and this is NFL Cover Zero. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Oh my. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining and twice a week that is ex exactly what you're gonna get. Listen NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
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Greg Rosenthal
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Nick Wright
Welcome in. Watch Right with Nick Wright, episode 365 this episode, as always brought to you by our friends at Boost Mobile, demands a rough weekend. For me, there's no no getting around it. It's and it started off so, you know, rough weekend's not even the right way to put was just a rough Sunday because Friday was glorious. Doing the show live from Kansas City, it was an all timer and then Saturday was wildly profitable. Hopefully not just for me, but for our listeners. Because the great Nick Schulman, the what's Right boxing expert analyst correspondent, did an hour with us last week and gave us every single reason to bet Terence Bud Crawford in an upset and Terence Bud Crawford dominated that fight and we were rolling. And even early Saturday after really it's just the Chiefs game. Like what am I talking about? Like everything is just cheaps game. I got a little I feel unlucky with my five picks where I ended up going two and three this weekend. One of the losses was the Jags plus three and a half. They lost by four in a game. They gave away just card in total Jagsian fashion gave away. And another loss was Arizona laying six and a half. They're up 27 to eight late in the game. Like late late in the game Kyler throws a pick. They allow a touchdown. They allow the what might be the only successful onside kick of the year and all of a sudden not only do they not cover, they almost lost the game outright. But as the kids say we move, we're going to be okay. We'll get to all of that. You on the other hand just can't lose a teaser hitting prize. You're hitting hitting player props left and right. You're just, you're on fire over on the west coast.
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Damanza
I'm trying, I'm trying. Yeah, teaser look good. We hit this weekend. But but yeah, that's okay.
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Nick Wright
The teaser looked good. You gave out a winning teaser. It's all you can hope for. I will say this team what's right in the million dollar splash sports Survivor. We had the Cardinals. We have now used the Jags and the Cardinals. We're 2 0. We're feeling good now. I will say almost everyone's feeling good about Survivor at this point because nobody's lost anything. Oh one other note for the audience, I guess this is also for the Blue Duck folks, but it won't actually impact any of our schedules or anything. We are now we're going to go back to doing what we did at the beginning of the pod where the pick show is released as a separate episode on Friday. So we'll be live Thursday. We will then also after we're live Thursday do our pic show. You know what I mean? And then it will come out as its own standalone episode on Fridays. I know there was some confusion for folks who because we did that this week and I didn't tell you guys who listened to Thursday's episode and said where were the picks? They were released later as their own thing. So just so everybody knows. And by the way, to make sure you get everything we do like rate, subscribe, review, YouTube is growing great. The itunes and Spotify numbers are doing really well. We appreciate it. The only way you guys can help us more than just listening to the show is throwing us a subscription or even on top of that, a review. So we would love that. Now let's get right into it. Straight to voicemail. Brought to you by our friends at Boost Mobile. Bad couple first few weeks for the skinny football players out there. Xavier Worthy's got his shoulder popped out. Devonte Smith looked like he might have gotten hurt in the Chiefs game. And Jaden Daniels dealing with a knee sprain. That is certainly something to monitor. It is, you know, fortunately for him. Unfortunately for the rest of the league, not even close to the most dire of the quarterback injuries. This weekend we'll get to that. Crawford defeats Canelo and gives himself a real argument that if you want to call him the best pound for pound fighter of your lifetime, you can make that case. Now he's 42 and oh, he basically jumped three weight classes to beat Canelo and it was an all timer and I didn't think the fight was as close as the judges did. And then the if I wasn't having a tough enough week and I got to be careful, you know, I'm not trying to take shots at the NFL, but NFL social media tweeting out, never a doubt on what was the backbreaking touchdown for the Eagles over the Chiefs felt pointed and felt personal. I'm just going to be honest with you now. You can say that is egotistical. I don't think it is.
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Damanza
I don't think that was very niche. That's niche right there.
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Nick Wright
Well, whatever it is, I, I didn't love it. I gotta tell you. I, I didn't love it and it felt a, like a low blow. Now maybe I'm just a little on tilt because of what happened in Chiefs Eagles. So to Monze, let's not delay anymore. Let's get right into it. Go ahead.
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Damanza
Yeah. So the super bowl rematch was rough for Chiefs fans and you. So there's a few things going on. The Tush push is still alive and well. Mahomes is struggling to throw the ball deep it would seem and him and Kelsey have had a few miscues that have potentially cost them games. Where would you like to start?
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Nick Wright
Okay, so we're going to start with the chief side of things and then we'll get into the Eagles and then we will do a Tush push discussion. Okay. So I cannot and producers tell me if the mic sounds a little better. Now I am not going to sit here and act like everything's fine with the Chiefs right now. It isn't. There are some I want to focus on the concerning things that have occurred in both games. Okay. So for instance, week one the secondary which has been a strength of this team looked hugely problematic against Herbert and the Chargers. Week two, I thought the secondary looked really good, right? So like that's one good game, one bad game. I'm not focusing on that. Here is what through two weeks looks problematic and I don't know where the solve for it is. The Chiefs running game is as inept right now as it's ever been since Patrick's been there. Pacheco sadly just does not look like the same player he was before he broke his leg. And what's odd about it is his biggest problem through two weeks doesn't seem to be explosion. It seems to be vision and hitting the right hole. You wouldn't think that is related to a lower body injury, but he just hasn't been effective. Kareem Hunt is who he is. He if you need one yard way more often than not he will get it for you but he has no chance of getting you 10. And they brought in Elijah Mitchell. Nothing's happened there. They drafted Rashard Smith in the I think seventh round. He's seventh round rookie. Like they just right now don't have the horses in the running back room and that is a spot that I would not at all hate for them to be active on in the trade market. I think we have There has been a lot of discussion of should the Chiefs trade for Tyree Kill. The wide receivers are coming back. Okay I if I were doing a trade with Miami I might be equally if not more interested in Devon H. Like I think that there are you so running backs will be and should be available and that might be a spot that they have to bite the bullet and spend some draft capital via trade on. So that's one piece and here's another one. As good as Josh Simmons has been at the left tackle spot, Patrick still doesn't feel totally comfortable in his protection. Now some of that's been the left guard spots been really problematic. But Creed's great, Trey's great. Simmons is really good. Joanne Taylor, when he's not committing penalties is fine and Patrick just seems like he doesn't trust it right now. And I am as confident in Patrick Mahomes as any player that's ever played in the league that he will figure stuff out and there have been times this season where it has felt like he's out there. I don't want to say by himself but Nobody can get open, they can't run the ball, which has forced him to. And this is the part of the season that I have liked the absolute least. It is forced him to activate playoff running Mahomes in weeks one and two. And I despise that because it obviously, obviously it puts him in jeopardy, which is the biggest concern. But the other thing is one of the reasons he has had the postseason success that he's had, one of the reasons he has been so much more dynamic and effective statistically and from a winning perspective on a per game basis than any other quarterback in the history of the league come the postseason is because every single postseason he adds a huge weapon to his game that is not there in the regular season, which is the quarterback runs the scrambles. And if he's using that during the regular season, it, it has just multiple concerns. One is he can get banged up. Another is you're not getting that auto postseason boost like Josh Allen and Lamar are unbelievable runners at the quarterback position. They do it starting in week one and never stop. So it doesn't add an element to their game come the playoffs. It has for Patrick and the last listen issue on offense is the greatest tight end in the history of the league has had a really rough two weeks. There's no way around it. Third play of the season. I thought it was Xavier's mistake. He says it was his mistake that he ran the wrong depth of his route and Xavier's hurt later in that game. He and Patrick aren't on quite the same page. When they're down nine about to score, they don't connect on what would have been a touchdown. And then obviously the Eagles game, they're about to take the lead and he bobbles a pass and it turns into a game changing interception. That's all highly, it's been highly damaging. I don't know if it's yet highly concerning, but it's highly damaging. Okay, so there, there is that piece of it on the defensive side of the ball. The only complaint I have after week two is they cannot seem to get pressure without sending a blitz. Like if they rush four, they just cannot get home. So I don't know if that means the rookies, Ashton Gillott or Omar Norman lot need to be more effective. Certainly Charles Minahu needs to be more effective. Mike Dana got hurt in this game. That didn't help. George Carloftis just got paid by this team. He needs to be more effective. Like Chris Jones is a man on an island at times and so those are real problems. Okay. And right now the Chiefs don't deserve to be anything close to super bowl favorites. I'm not going to sit here and act like they got unlucky. They got this. No, if anything, it is surprising that they have had a chance to win both of these games when they haven't played well. They've missed kicks in both games. They haven't forced a turnover. So that is the true and fair sober analysis of where the Chiefs are through two weeks. Anything past that is nonsense. Anyone trying to pedal. Wow, should they be worried about making the playoffs? I think has lost their mind now. Is the division for the first time in jeopardy? Yeah, it. When you're 02 and a team that beat you is two and oh, with a divisional win, it's understandable that the Chiefs are no longer the favorites in the division. To Monse and where. Where does Hard Rock Bed have them at right now?
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Damanza
They've got them at plus 240 to win the division. Should you. Should you hammer that?
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Nick Wright
I mean listen, as. As it's not surprising to you probably. I have a lot of exposure already on the Chiefs, you know, futures and season and win total. But I think +2 40 is good value right now when I do right now. If I had to pick it, I would still pick the Chiefs to win the division. And part of that is some concerning stuff I saw. No from no from the Chargers. The. The Houston doesn't apply here. The from the Chargers last night late in that game where. And we'll get into that when we talk about the Chargers. I thought the Chargers almost went out of their way to try to keep the Raiders in that game. And it's what's true for Patrick is true for all these quarterbacks. Any quarterback that's running a ton early in the year I get worried about. And Justin Herbert's running a lot and you know that. I think that and he took a wicked shot yesterday and then they also had him late in the game when the game was decided do another quarterback run that I totally didn't understand. And so I still believe the Chiefs are the best team in the AFC West. You can't right now say they're better than Buffalo or Baltimore. You can say however right now in a span of two quick weeks after for the last few years, the AFC clearly being the better of the two conferences. The NFC right now seems far superior and far deeper. Like Daman's a who are in the AFC East. Buffalo, Miami, New England, the Jets. There's one team you believe in in Buffalo. The The AFC North, Baltimore, Cincy, Pittsburgh, Cleveland. There's one team you believe in, the AFC south. Right now, there might be zero teams you believe in. Unless you or the generic you to the audience really does believe what the culture doing is sustainable. I don't know that I believe it. The AFC west, on the other hand, might have a bunch of, you know, the Chargers, the Broncos, the Chiefs, the Raiders still like it is. It's remarkable to me how open the middle part of the conference is. And so I think it's fair to say the Chiefs have basically not punted, but given up the opportunity to be the one seed. I would, you know, I think that's fair. I think there's, you know, there are real things they need to clean up. I also feel this way. They are potentially 12 days away from everyone saying how silly we should feel for writing off the Chiefs because you beat the Giants this weekend. You didn't have a game against Baltimore that if you win, you're right back to being the Chiefs. And all this stuff about, oh, the mystique is gone or this or that, that's gone like that. And that conversation is gone. And so big, but big next few weeks and big stretch of time before Rashid comes back. Xavier might be back this weekend. He'll definitely be back for the Raven game. And listen, they need to have a receiver that can beat man to man coverage. And the idea that like Mahomes is being exposed without a dynamic receiver is belied by the fact that he won league MVP with a receiving core led by JuJu and MVS. And the next year, one Super Bowl MVP with an even worse receiving core. And last year they went 15 and 2 and made the super bowl with Rasheed missing basically the whole year. So I, I think that's too reactionary. But somebody's got to get open at some point. All right, before we get to the Tush push, do you have another. One more follow up you want to ask me? Yeah.
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Damanza
With how Philly fans are treating you, do you think treating you in person, are you thinking about taking MMA listens?
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Nick Wright
So I know we're joking. I'm going to be serious about this just for a second. The grown adult Eagle fans that live in the New York area, and I have more sympathy for folks when I was in Kansas City and ran into Eagle fans, I'd love to tell you the vast majority were great. They were not. The vast majority were obnoxious assholes. A few were great, but I had a group of four grown men in golf outfits at eight in the morning, Friday morning, in front of the hotel we were both staying at, yell like scream at me. So like that. But, but I actually give those guys not a pass. You're. You flew to town for a game. You're all right. Like you're in game mode. Whatever. It is like that, that is what it is. The Eagle fans that see me on the street in New York and accost me for lack of a better term, are just out of their mind. Like what? Like on it. Like, like you're just out of your mind.
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Damanza
What are you doing right now, dude?
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Nick Wright
Say it again.
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Damanza
Are you doing with your time right now?
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Nick Wright
Well, it's just, you're just, you're just like what are you doing? You're, you're not on the team. And I like the, like the this is, it is for forever. I've said that whenever Daman says to me like, oh, you're getting killed online or people are mad at you or whatever, what I've said is, no they're not. Like maybe they are, but it doesn't matter because I don't see it. In order to tell me your feelings, you got to see me in person. And 99% of the people who see me in person, no matter what they've said online, they're incredibly gracious. It is really surprising the level of like angst and vitriol. A team that is the defending champions their fans have and I find it.
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Damanza
Is the worst fan base. Not worst fan base, but worst fan base to you. Like I felt like Buffalo was up.
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Nick Wright
There at one point, but Buffalo fans were. Here's the thing. I think I was. You were Buffalo way more than Philly and Buffalo fans were always awesome. Always. Eds and Buffalo fans by the way, never won. They never like the combination is already.
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Damanza
Like a type away. I feel like, like they're already.
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Nick Wright
Yeah, it, it, it's. I, I, I, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not making too big of a deal over it, but I'm not going to act like it's not noticeable, right? That these like 38 year old IT pros on their lunch break that see me walking in the city like hey, Nick Wright, fuck you. Like hey man. Like we're just like that. It's a little weird. Like it's just, it's just. And I, and I, the, I just have a auto response of congrats on the Super Bowl. Like I don't know what interaction you think we're going to have here.
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Damanza
I mean but it is held up, pent up anger.
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Nick Wright
But what I'm saying is what are they you got. They won't. I don't know what they're mad about. I think that there is an element of their identity as sports fans is anger and they don't know how to deal with the fact that they won. And so it is. I'm not going to like, I'm not going to pretend it's not weird and people the producers asking if it happened with Niner fans or Buck fans. I'm telling you and I am not exaggerating, it's never happened with any other fan base across any other sport. To me, like there are some true die hard Kobe fans that really disliked me, particularly right after Kobe's tragic passing because in that time any, anybody that had, you know, tape if you will, of what they thought was being unfair to Kobe, those got shared a lot, you know, in the moment after his passing though none of those folks. If I were to make a list of the 20 worst in person interactions I've had with fans since I've been doing this, 18 of them would be Eagle fans since they won the Super Bowl.
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Damanza
Damn.
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Nick Wright
It's really weird. And so like yeah, they're the. And so it just.
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Damanza
You're out on these two.
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Nick Wright
Part of that might be geographically. Yeah. You know what I mean? There's a lot of things. But it is, it is odd. Which is why this thing we're doing next, which is shining a light on the total bullshit that is the cheating of the tush push, delights me even more. We'll get to that in a second. But first, we're so excited to be partnered with as our presenting sponsor, Hard Rock Bet. Everybody knows and loves the Hard Rock hotels and casinos. And now you can use the top rated Hard Rock Bet sportsbook app to place your bets all NFL season and beyond. Hard Rock Bet is the only legal sportsbook in the state of Florida, the only one, and is also available in Arizona, Ohio, New Jersey, Indiana, Tennessee, Virginia, Illinois and Colorado, with more states launching all the time. You can also play on Hard Rock Bets online casino if you are in New Jersey. Throughout the football season, we'll be using Hard Rock Bet lines to make our predictions for the biggest games as we gear up for the NFL season. Sign up for Hard Rock bet. Make a $5 bet and you'll get $150 in bonus bets. If you win, head over to Hard Rock Bet. Sign up and make your first deposit today. Payable and bonus bets, not a cash offer offered by the Seminole Tribe of Florida in Florida. Offered by Seminole hard Rock Digital LLC in all other states. Must be 21 plus and physically present in Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee or Virginia. To play terms and conditions apply. Concern about gambling in Florida, call 1-888- admit it in Indiana. If you or someone you know has a gambling problem and want 1-809-with-IT gambling problem, call 1-800- GAMBLER in Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee or Virginia.
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Matt Jones
Hey, this is Matt Jones. I'm Drew Franklin and this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informed, informative, and entertaining. And twice a week, that is exactly what you're gonna get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Looks like something that should not be sold. Oh my. So that was my other big Colts takeaway. They sold that?
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Nick Wright
Yes.
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Matt Jones
Might want to go back to the Colts stadium. Yeah, I might want to go back to the drawing board on that. Yeah, I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well. It's worked for generations. We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go. I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73. He is a young 73. He is spry.
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Nick Wright
I would say.
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Matt Jones
I wouldn't fight him. I would Listen NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
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Greg Rosenthal
Football is back. That's right. The new NFL season is here and you should be listening to NFL Daily as we march along to Super Bowl 60. This is a show for sickos like me. NFL Daily is your kind of show. It's in the name NFL Daily. You'll have fresh content in your feed all season long. Myself, Greg Rosenthal and an all star cast of co hosts will preview and recap every game all season long. Josh Allen coming off an MVP season.
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Matt Jones
And now lateral to Allen and reaching for the pylon. Are you kidding me? It's a touchdown. Have you ever seen that one before?
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Greg Rosenthal
Rookies making a name for themselves.
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Matt Jones
Bulldozer. He is bouncing off defenders and dragged down.
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Greg Rosenthal
And of course, the Eagles trying to win another Lombardi.
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Nick Wright
What a game, what a season, what a team. Eagles fans savor it and rejoice.
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Greg Rosenthal
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Nick Wright
All right, Daman, let's get to the Tush Push stuff.
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Damanza
So you went on a rant yesterday on tv. Some people would say you went on a whine about the Tush Push and how unfair it is. You've had 24 hours to reconsider. Are you gonna walk it back or are you still sour on it?
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Nick Wright
Listen, and you have to be my eyewitness on this demon.
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Damanza
Okay?
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Nick Wright
Okay. Well, before the Eagles and Chiefs ever played in any Super Bowls, before the Chiefs beat him in the super bowl, before the Eagles were a real top flight contender when we were doing the show from Trentage, your mom's store in Harlem together, I hated this play. Can you confirm that that is true?
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Damanza
100%. I don't think there's ever been a point that the Tush Push existed and you didn't not like it.
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Nick Wright
Right. And it started in October of 2021. And my argument had always been multilayered, but the j the basis of it is it's against the spirit of professional football because it's a rugby play, it's bad TV and it's a rugby play. And Simmons made this point and I agree with him, where it is in the same family as if a team started having guys go piggyback on each other's backs to block field goals. At the line of scrimmage. Like, oh, is there a specific rule against that? I don't know, but it doesn't feel like what we are supposed to be doing here. There was the old Reddit post of what if the warriors signed four like bodybuilders and had those four guys lock arms and Steph Curry stand in the middle of them and then shoot threes where nobody can get through? Like, is there technically a rule against it? I don't know, but it feels against the spirit of the sport we're playing. So that's why I've always hated it. It's not because and by the way, the Eagles have beaten the Chiefs in one game that really matters to me. The Super Bowl. And they didn't need the Tush push in that Super Bowl. They crushed us. They needed it in the first super bowl, but the Chiefs won. I don't give a about the regular season games, so you're just gonna have to take my word for it. Okay, that that has always been my long standing opinion. A I have had three kind of additional prongs to the opinion which is first of all, if everyone got good at would really hurt the NFL if third and short or fourth and short were no longer exciting or intriguing plays, that hurts the watchability and intrigue of the league. The second prong was if the Eagles got better at would snap ruin the sport? By and by better at it, I mean is right now they can basically get two yards whenever they want. All that has to do is change to 4 yards and for Philly to be like, okay, first play of the game, first and 10 from the 30 tush pushing the next 12 plays down the field and you'd have to change the rule mid season. But the third prong has also been this cuz one of the Eagles defenses is, well, it must not be that easy because they're the only ones who can do it that well because they're the only ones that on 80% of them half their team is offsides and the guards are firing early and thankfully Tom Brady and Dean Blandino shined a spotlight on that. It is hard enough to stop as is, but when every other snap of the game just think about how you're watching football. Every other snap you can see the ball from the the above shot because it's in front of the center and then the offensive line is in a slight arc where the center is the furthest out but his head's behind the ball, the guards are a little bit behind him and the tackles are A little bit behind them. And except for tackles like Lane Johnson for the Eagles or Joanne Taylor for the Chiefs, who are quite a bit, you know, behind to get a little early jump the tush push. You can't see the ball because the center is the. The ball is behind where the center is. Like where the center's head is. That's illegal. And you don't know when the ball's been snapped because you can't see it. Which for the refs makes it impossible to tell. Wait, did the guards go early to get an advantage? Just by a quarter of a second. And you might say what's a quarter of a second we see every day in the NFL an offensive lineman just barely shift back in his stance. It's a flag that is happening on steroids. 80% of Eagles tush pushes. Go back and watch the Vikings try it on Sunday Night Football and what you'll see is they're lined up like a regular play and those can be stopped. So you if the commissioner of the league doesn't want it, 22 of the 31 other teams don't want it. At the very least, can it be officiated correctly? At the very least can. Because here's the thing, Demons, A A false start penalty on tush push plays is devastating because they're going for fourth downs they wouldn't otherwise go for. You know what I mean that it's not like a false start on 1st and 10 is not that big of a deal. A false start on 4th and 1 when you're either at the goal line or on your own 35 as the Eagles are want to do in either those spots totally changes the math entirely and here is why.
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Damanza
So they're cheating.
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Nick Wright
Well, I'm not going to call them cheating because they're doing what the refs will let him get away with. I'm asking. Here is, here is my belief. A little over two years ago in Juwan Taylor's first game as a chief, I think it was his first game. I know it was first game of the season regardless against the Detroit Lions, Chris Collinsworth made a point to harp on on the broadcast. He is jumping early and it's something he had always done in Jacksonville before he came to Kansas City. It had never really been a problem, but Collinsworth pointed it out on the broadcast and all of a sudden every ref was attuned to it and he snapped, became the most penalized player in the league. What I wonder is will Tom Brady having focused on that they are jumping early on the tush push. And then Dean Blandino coming on the same broadcast and saying, yeah guys, I'm done with the tush push. It's too hard to officiate. Will that make the officiating crews across the country more aware? Oh, this is something we have to watch because if Philly starts just even occasionally getting false starts on massively kneecaps, its effectiveness. And my prediction is that, oh, I didn't see this. I didn't know that I I missed that last night where the refs made the Chargers O line adjust how they were going to tush push because of how they were lined up. I'll watch that. Thanks guys for doing that in the in the doc. But my guess is they're now aware that what they're doing is not allowed and it certainly is going to be banned after this year. I think there is no doubt about it, but I just wonder if it's going to lose some effectiveness during the year. Luckily, Philly will be fine without it because Jalen Hurts is such a prolific downfield passer this season.
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Damanza
Yeah, that, that graphic was pretty crazy.
- [43:35]
Nick Wright
I mean that's pretty and that's not that different from week one where now he hit the one deep ball to Johan Dotson in week one. He hit the one deep ball to Devonte Smith in week two.
- [43:51]
Damanza
That's boring.
- [43:52]
Nick Wright
Jalen. Listen, Jalen Hurts is not a dynamic drop back passer. He is better than what we've seen through two weeks. And to not be giving him the opportunities to hit A.J. brown down the field is odd. And I think that there is right now what is keeping that afloat is not afloat but under wraps is that they've won. Okay. Because I think AJ is not all too pleased about not getting opportunities. And I say that because A.J. brown told us himself. Let me see if I can find it there it is going to have the A.J. brown told us himself. What'd you say to Monse?
- [44:54]
Damanza
So they said he was going to have the the Quran memorized by the end of the season.
- [44:59]
Nick Wright
Oh so here AJ Brown on Instagram four days after the super bowl quote. I tried to feel how everyone made it seem to be a champion and unfortunately it was short lived. 2 days to be exact. Lol. I've never been a champion at the highest level before, but I thought my hard work would be justified by winning at all. It wasn't. My thrill for this game comes when I dominate. It's the hunt that does it for me. It's when the DB drops his head and surrenders because he can't f with me. That is A.J. brown's own words. So I don't know how happy A.J. brown is with what is been the Eagles offense up to this point. All right, let's get demons a to the Joe Burrow injury in the Bengals.
- [46:01]
Damanza
Joe Burrow was knocked out early with a turf toe injury, so he's going to get surgery and he's going to miss at least three months. And this is his third major injury. Where do the Bengals go from here without Burrow?
- [46:14]
Nick Wright
All right, remember our rules guys on NFL injury announcements, okay? If the initial reporting is he's fine, it means he might miss a week. If the initial reporting is escaped major injury, he's probably out a month. If the initial reporting is the team is highly concerned, he's almost assuredly out a year. In the new age of NFL Insider media, for some reason there is this I would imagine it's a request by agents to always put the sunniest possible time frame on injuries. So when the initial reporting is at least three months for Joe Burrow, you should read that to mean he is done for the season. Okay, you like there and here's why the reporting stuff on it matters. So I saw some people yesterday, like doing the math, they're like, all right, three months. So October, October, November. So he could be back by mid December. If the The Bengals are already 2 0. If they can, you know, just play.500 ball, then he's back for the stretch run, gets a few games under his belt before the playoffs. No chance. Not that's, that's not realistic. Sadly, Joe Burrow is almost assuredly done for the year. And there is this was not a fluke. This was, I don't want to call it predictable. But all off season and you guys know this if you listen to this show and by the way, we appreciate everyone who does and please subscribe on iTunes and YouTube and Spotify and all that. Leave us a review if you'd like to certainly give us five stars if you don't mind. The Bengals conversation was simply a well, if the defense can just get a little bit better, we know the offense is going to be great. And I said more than once, one of the reasons I was not a Bengals believer was I thought their offensive line, which already had been shaky, was worse this year potentially than it was last year. And through two games, really a game and a half, you saw Joe Burrow getting the hell knocked out of him. And so part of that is a team failing, right? Here's another thing and this is something that. It's just the reality. It's Damanza. You might think this is harsh. I don't mean it to be, but I think if you watch the Bengals, this is something Joe Burrow needed to improve on and didn't. He is so. He is so often hunting the big play downfield, even when there's guys diving at his legs, like the pockets breaking down. He. He has. And it's one of the reasons he's so great is because he's going to stand in there and, you know, as opposed to. Honestly, like the way Patrick played last year, which is. Nope. Get. Get rid of the ball. Get rid of. You know, he. The. The example I gave and you're too young to really have watched this guy Burrow oddly plays within the pocket a lot like Big Ben did where it is. There's going to be guys hanging all over me and I'm going to. But Big Ben, he was named Big Ben for a reason. You know what I mean? He was huge. He was incredibly durable. That's not so. Like, I'm not blaming Joe Burrow for being hurt. What I'm saying is the style. He hasn't adjusted his style of play given how critical he is to that team having any shot. And so now this is a player who. And this is the worst. I mean, the worst accolade imaginable. He has a real chance to Monze. To become the only guy in the history of the NFL to win the comeback player of the year three times. He's already won it twice. You don't want that, man. That's like, you know, he blew out his knee as a rookie, came back and won it. He got his elbow torn up a couple years ago, came back and won it, and now he's going to have played a game and a half this year.
- [51:41]
Damanza
And so saving grace that. It's like a toe thing, though. At least it's, you know, it's not knee. Oh, not his elbow. That's. Unfortunately, he's injured.
- [51:50]
Nick Wright
It doesn't. You would not expect this at all to have next year impacts. Yes, I agree. You know what I mean? You expect him to come back the exact same player. Right. The flip side of that is he's now had three catastrophic injuries to three totally unrelated parts of his body. Hey, you know what I mean?
- [52:13]
Damanza
Yeah.
- [52:13]
Nick Wright
Like he. The. Is. Yeah. I mean, you. You. You've had some similar.
- [52:19]
Damanza
You know, just everywhere.
- [52:20]
Nick Wright
Stop there. Right? The. Where it's like, man, I've got. I've dealt with a shoulder I've dealt with an ankle. I've dealt with this, like, for Joe, he's dealt with an acl, some weird elbow ligament thing, and now turf toe, which never happens to quarterbacks. And so I. And this idea that producers, if you guys don't mind, check on Hard Rock. What the Bengals are right now. Yes. No. To make the playoffs because there is, I guess, a level of. Well, they are two and oh, with two divisional wins, like, can they. Can they overcome this? And Jake Browning, obviously, when he played a couple years ago, played well enough and they went 500. I just think their next month demands a of defenses. Three of these games on the road. They're at Minnesota, at Denver, home for Detroit, at Green Bay. Yeah, that feels like one in three at best. And a real possibility, and I hate to say it, but a real possibility that Browning doesn't make it through that, like, with that offensive line the way it is. And they. They signed Sean Clifford to the practice squad today, which they have to like. I don't know. I'm trying to see. Oh, they already. They on their practice squad. They already had Brett Rippin and Mike.
- [54:00]
Damanza
White, like, going get Anthony Richardson from the Colts or something.
- [54:05]
Nick Wright
Oh, that's interesting.
- [54:08]
Damanza
Kirk Cousins, Kurt, Trey, Lance out there somewhere.
- [54:17]
Nick Wright
Trey Lance, interesting. I mean, I don't know. Like right now, Jake Browning is a better option than all those guys definitively. Except for maybe Kirk and maybe Kirk as well. Browning's fine, but. So they're on Hard Rock bet there to make the playoffs. No. Minus 210. Yes. Plus 165. That seems a little optimistic. That also, though, speaks to the power of being two and oh with two conference wins and two and oh in the AFC right now. All right, what's follow up here, pal?
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- [55:20]
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Hey, this is Matt Jones and I'm Drew Franklin, and this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informed, informative, and entertaining. And twice a week, that is exactly what you're gonna get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Looks like something that should not be sold. Oh, my. So that was my other big Colts takeaway. They sold that.
- [55:46]
Nick Wright
Yes.
- [55:47]
Matt Jones
Might want to go back to the Colts stadium. Yeah, I might want to go back to the drawing board on that. Yeah. I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well. It's worked for generations. We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go. I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73. He is a young 73. He is spry. I wouldn't fight him. I would listen NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
- [56:22]
Greg Rosenthal
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- [56:49]
Matt Jones
And now lateral to Allen and reaching for the pylon. Are you kidding me? It's a touchdown. Have you ever seen that one before?
- [56:58]
Greg Rosenthal
Rookies making a name for themselves.
- [57:03]
Matt Jones
He is bouncing off defenders and dragged down.
- [57:06]
Greg Rosenthal
And of course, the Eagles trying to win another Lombardi.
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Nick Wright
What a game. What a season. What a team. Eagles fans savor it and rejoice.
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Greg Rosenthal
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- [58:22]
Damanza
Yeah, how did your guy Trevor not pull this out against Jake Browning? And the guy threw three picks. What. What happened there, there rud me.
- [58:32]
Nick Wright
That was such a horrifying loss for the Jags. I mean, Browning threw three picks, including one that just has to end the game. So the. When the Jags are up 27, 24 early in the fourth, the Bengals go three and out. The Jags then have a nine play drive. They end with a punt. Jake Browning then throws an interception that is returned to the bet to the Bengals 20. I'm sorry, 12 yard line. The Jags have the ball. They're up three. They have first and 10 from the 12 with five minutes left. And they lose. Man. They. They. I. I'm not going to kill Liam Cohen for going for that fourth down. You guys have heard me say before, I oddly prefer sometimes to be up 3 than up 6. I hate the up 6 like up 3. It feels like the other team's a little more conservative. They will obviously kick a field goal. So I didn't blame him saying a touchdown wins us this game if we don't pick it up. You know, we're giving it to you at the 8 and you're less likely to be so aggressive and maybe they should have won. Sorry, my allergies are killing me. Maybe they should have won because I thought the Travis Hunter pass interference was a bad call. But you cannot find a way to lose that game. And early in the game, Trevor with a vintage Trevor mistake. It's seven. Oh, Jacksonville. The Bengals go three and out. The Jags move the ball right down the field. And that on third and goal from the eight, Trevor just throws a hope and a prayer that gets picked off. Now his other pass that got picked off was Brian Thomas Jr. Who had a alligator arm situation the whole game. But in Brian Thomas Jr's defense, Trevor's got to stop throwing these hospital balls, man. Like that was a great opportunity for the Jacks and to let to lose a game when Joe Burrow gets hurt and Jake Browning throws three picks. And by the way, Trevor throws for 270 and three touchdowns. You run for a buck 40. It's just such a Jags loss. Just such a Jags loss. Shout out Paige Beckers. She won rookie of the year. Breaking news.
- [61:26]
Damanza
Shout out Paige. Who do you think was more wrong? Head coach Liam Colon for telling his quarterback where to throw the ball or Trevor for waving his coach off?
- [61:34]
Nick Wright
Liam, you can't. You can't you. You listen, you just. You can do that privately on the sideline. You barking at your quarterback when he is trying, like he's still like, has to call a play, run a play. Is. There's that. That to me was ridiculous. All right, Damanze, let's quickly. We got a lot more to do here, so let's go. We'll go quickly through the rest of the games before we go to our Monday staple. All the games that didn't get their own section, we're gonna. We're gonna give them, you know, 20 or 30 seconds each. So we had every game in the league this weekend.
- [62:13]
Damanza
Oh. So the bucks moved to 2 and oh. After a late score led by Baker late in the game. Is betting Baker down a score late in the game as much of a lock is good of a lock these days?
- [62:24]
Nick Wright
Yeah. Listen, shout out producer Daniel, who texted the group when Baker got the ball back down five. You know, is this an auto bet? And I think we, you know, I bet it. I think he bet it. I also had the Bucks parlayed with the Raiders, so I'm glad I bet it because I ended up losing that one. So this made up for it. I couple things about that. One is about the specific game and then I'll get to Baker. I never feel like teams or very often announcers make a big enough deal of the 2 point conversion to go up 7. So last night, the Texans, Nick Chubb breaks off this great run. So they score with. How much time is left when they score? 2. 10 left. And that two point conversion they go for there is just so wildly important because you get it and likely overtime's the worst case scenario. You don't get it and you almost feel like, man, do we wish Chubb hadn't of scored. Because if Chubb. If Chubb had gone down and then you were in a position where. Because they were at the time Houston was down, what would they have been down? They were down 4. Right. I'm an idiot. Why. Why can I not get this right? The. Hold on. They got. Why am I so dumb right now? The score of the game five was 14:13. Yeah. Jesus. They were down one. I'm such. What the hell just happened there? And if Chub doesn't score, all of a sudden, Tampa's having to use its timeouts. You're kicking a field goal, you know, potentially later. But Chub does score. That's great. You want the seven, but what you need is the eight. They don't get the two point conversion. And now Baker's in business. All three timeouts. Two minutes can get going. With that said, Texans had him in 4th and 10. And then Baker did some really cool Baker stuff. Escaping the rush, running, seemingly got hurt, then got saved by the fact that Chauncey Gardner Johnson was talking trash. And all of a sudden he wasn't hurt anymore and he popped up talk trash right back to him. Baker's just the best. And Baker absolutely can win league MVP this year. Absolutely can. And the Bucks absolutely can be the one seed as predicted on this show. Bucks.
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Damanza
So you're not easing off of that?
- [65:28]
Nick Wright
No, why would I?
- [65:31]
Damanza
100%.
- [65:32]
Nick Wright
I mean, they, they have played two road games against teams that were considered either possible or likely playoff teams. They could have lost both. And Baker made game winning plays in the waning moments of both. Now they get the jets, then a tough home game against the Eagles. But they play the Eagles really well. Seahawks, Ners, Lions. It's not easy, but no, they've got a real.
- [66:04]
Damanza
Missing a couple of guys on offense right now too, I think.
- [66:06]
Nick Wright
Yes, absolutely. Godwin's going to be coming back. No, now I think they lost. Excuse me. Kalija can't see in that game. That's, that's concerning. But no, the Bucks are for real now on the Baker piece of really gets lost in the shuffle to Monze. Not lost in the shuffle, but I just want to reiterate this, that the Cleveland Browns spent the number one overall pick on Baker Mayfield. Watched him in his second year win a playoff game for them. And then they were like, yeah, he's not good enough for us. They're like, yeah, we can do better. You're the Cleveland Browns. And you decided that Baker Mayfield was not. And I said in his second year he won the playoff game. It was in his third year he won the playoff game. Pardon me. You decided a guy who won a playoff game as a Browns homegrown starting quarterback wasn't good enough for you because Odell Beckham Jr. S dad put out an Instagram mixtape ripping him in a year he played hurt it and, and now you're just in hell. It's really, really unbelievable. And I love seeing Baker have this success. I love it so much. The flip side to Monze is Panic meter is at a 7 for the Texans and for CJ. He needs to stop basketball.
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Damanza
Like if you're, if you're losing like after. He shouldn't bring it out in the third game. He's done it the first two games. He shouldn't be out there.
- [68:06]
Nick Wright
I don't even know. I'll be honest, I don't even know what you're talking about.
- [68:09]
Damanza
Okay. Yeah, it's, it's probably algorithm. Well, CJ's house, he's like doing between the legs, walking up and down the field, maybe be throwing it to your receivers or something. Guys need to be more in tune. But yeah, while losing that, you can't be doing that.
- [68:24]
Nick Wright
I just feel like.
- [68:26]
Damanza
Come on.
- [68:29]
Nick Wright
No, I, I like it. I mean, I, I mean I like the, your, your critique of it.
- [68:35]
Damanza
But yeah, like, like you said, ever since he said that thing to, to Caleb Williams, it's just kind of been on a downward slope.
- [68:41]
Nick Wright
Contractually obligated to give you guys the numbers on this one. C.J. stroud, let me see if I can get football reference to cooperate with me. C.J. stroud through that game with Caleb Williams in the regular season in his career, 11 and 6, 26 touchdowns, five picks, a 101 rating. C.J. stroud sense he told Caleb Williams, come here young fellow, let me teach you a thing or two. 8 and 9, 18 touchdowns, 13 picks and 85 rating. Life can come out your fast man. And the Texans offensive operation just does not look good. The defense is still awesome, but the Texans have going for them obviously is the division they're in. And if you don't believe in the Colts, that division is going to feel winnable. But they, they're at Jacksonville this weekend.
- [69:51]
Damanza
Big game.
- [69:52]
Nick Wright
That's, that's for both teams.
- [69:54]
Damanza
Big game.
- [69:55]
Nick Wright
Yeah, big game. Then they get a little respite against the Titans. Then it's at the Ravens at Seattle. Gets tough, man. And so yeah, I'd be, I'd be a little more than a little nervous if I were the Texans. All right, let's get to the other Monday night game.
- [70:17]
Damanza
The Chargers look good again for the most part last night with another divisional win. Do you think this is the cream of the crop in that division?
- [70:27]
Nick Wright
Listen, I, I think the Chiefs will end up winning the division, but I have to give credit, the Chargers have looked really good. Now I thought the Chargers at the end of the game, as I said earlier, made some really, really poor game management decisions and I don't understand like the Chargers. It's fine, I guess. But it is odd to me that both the Chargers and Otter for the Raiders spent such premium draft picks on running backs and don't want to give him the ball. Like the Raiders refusal to get Ashton Genty involved. And it's like because he's not good in pass protection we'll just have. I understand. You don't want to tip your hand on oh, we're running this guy's, you know, on the field. But you can't spend the sixth pick of the draft on a guy he, he was, you know, and give him 11 carries in a game where Gino's having the worst game of his career. Just can't do it. And my, the Chargers defense looks awesome and Herbert's been really good. My only Charger concern is I think Herbert's running it too much and that is concerning. The other piece of that game is. And do we have any reporting on what Khalil Mack's injury was? I know that he was in a sling and he was holding his arm and so that didn't look good. That could be really damaging as well. The Raiders the. It would have been amazing if the Raiders could have started three and oh or I'm sorry, two and oh they, but they'll, they'll take one and one especially because Demase Raiders next four at the Commanders in a game Jaden might not play. Then home Bears at Colts Home Titans Raiders really need to make hay this next month and Gino will bounce back. That was a really rough Gino game and we talked a little bit about the Chargers earlier. All right, guys, I am so excited and that I might for the first time in years go to a Chiefs road game. You know why? Because the Chiefs are playing in the New York area when they play the Giants and all of a sudden a must win game against the New York Giants. And if I do go, you know how I'll get there? My friends at SeatGeek, the sponsor of today's show. With over 2028 million downloads, SeatGeek is the number one rated ticketing app. There are more than 70,000 events listed on SeatGeek, including concerts, sports festivals and more. With the NFL season here and MLB playoffs approaching, now is the perfect time to get to a game with SeatGeek. How about this as a time that I use SeatGeek and here's the here it is for the Giants Chiefs game. You just see it again. The big green dots are the best. Stay away from the red dots. I thought I was going to be able to get some comped tickets to Crawford Canelo. But long story short, my guy who has a guy who I thought was going to get the tickets, that guy, my guy's guy came down with shingles so he wasn't going to go so we couldn't get the tickets. More of the story is I had promised a friend. I was like, hey, I'll get you some tickets to Crawford Canelo. I should be able to get them. Don't buy them. And then I forgot. And then he texts me on Friday. Hey, man, just a reminder. You never sent me the tickets. I'm in Vegas. So you know what I did? I just kind of bit the bullet. I was like, all right, well, I'm not getting the tickets for free. At least I'll get the best deal possible with our friends at seatgeek. And I bought a couple tickets to Canelo Crawford. Seatgeek. What? They. They Again, best deal I could have gotten. Still, you know, big fight, expensive ticket. I then ended up just kind of adding that much to the bet, and we bet Crawford, so we're fine. So neither here nor there. Point is, SeatGeek came through for me at the last minute. Every ticket's backed by their buyer guarantee. And you guys can come through for me as well by using code. Write 10W, R, I, G, H, T10 for 10% off your next set of tickets at SeatGeek. 10% off any tickets with promo code write10. Make sure you click the link in the description, download the app, and have the code automatically added to your account so you can use it later.
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- [75:53]
Matt Jones
Hey, this is Matt Jones, and I'm Drew Franklin, and this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining, and twice a week, that is exactly what you're gonna get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Looks like something that should not be sold. Oh, my. So that was my other big Colts takeaway. They sold that.
- [76:19]
Nick Wright
Yes.
- [76:20]
Matt Jones
Might want to go back to the Colt stadium. Yeah. Might want to go back to the drawing board on that. Yeah. I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well. It's worked for generations. We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go. I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73. He is a young 73. He is spry. I wouldn't fight him. I would Listen NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
- [76:55]
Greg Rosenthal
Football is back. That's right, the new NFL season is here and you should be listening to NFL Daily as we march along to Super Bowl 60. This is a show for sickos like me. NFL Daily is your kind of show. It's in the name NFL Daily. You'll have fresh content in your feed all season long. Myself, Greg Rosenthal and an all star cast of co hosts will preview and recap every game all season long. Josh Allen coming off an MVP season.
- [77:21]
Matt Jones
And now lateral to Allen and reaching for the pylon. Are you kidding me? It's a touchdown. Have you ever seen that one before?
- [77:31]
Greg Rosenthal
Rookies making a name for themselves.
- [77:34]
Matt Jones
Bulldozer. He is bouncing off defensive Sanders and dragged down.
- [77:39]
Greg Rosenthal
And of course the Eagles trying to win another Lombardi.
- [77:42]
Nick Wright
What a game, what a season, what a team. Eagles fans savor it and rejoice.
- [77:50]
Greg Rosenthal
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- [77:55]
Nick Wright
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- [79:02]
Damanza
All right, so the Lions are looking good. Back to looking good again. They demolished the Bears 52 to 21. Your guy Caleb saw his stock plummet a little bit more. The bigger story here, the Lions domination or how bad the Bears are.
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Nick Wright
Listen, I actually don't think Caleb Stock Took a hit in this game. I didn't think he was great. I thought he was fine. I the story when a team allows 52, the story can't be the team who allowed 52 their quarterback. The story can either be their defense or the other team's offense. And I think the story is the Lions kind of having a, a don't write us off, you know, after one bad game reminder and golf looking really good and Dan Campbell getting a little get back. And so that to me is the story of that game. Is Detroit steadied itself after the playoff game goes terrible, Week one goes terrible. And they know they're staring down a game in Baltimore this weekend. So had they started 0 and 2 it get late early for the Detroit Lions. Instead they demolish the Bears. And the Bears on the other hand are feeling like, man oh man, you know, how, how far away are we from just being a good team, much less a great team. And right now they look really far. Again, I did not think this was a Caleb game as far as the story. He had the one horrific pick. He had another decision that could have resulted in a pick. I'm not going to freak out about that. I am going to tell you that they have Cowboys, Raiders commander, Saints is their next four and if they don't come out of that at least 2 and 2 and probably need to be 3 and 1, they're in real trouble. They're like. And they might already be in real trouble. I think it's. I picked them to make the playoffs. I don't think they're dead on that front, but they're in quite the hole. Not just listen when I picked and make the playoffs, I thought through two games they'd be one and one. So it's, you know, they're only one game off that pace. But how they've looked and this is where blowing that Vikings game keeps you up at night. All right, next.
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Damanza
Yes. Over there in Dallas. There were five lead changes and 41 points scored in the fourth quarter alone. Aubrey sent it to overtime on a 64 yarder and then at the game winner on the fifth possession of overtime, you left this game angry with Dallas. Thoughts? Why was that?
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Nick Wright
Yeah, well, listen for Brandon Aubrey is one of the most valuable players in the league. The fact that the Cowboys were it was going to be a 67 yard field goal. They had time to try to push the ball downfield and they're like, no, we'll just hand it off because we're now well within his range is so bananas. And, you know, Dak looked great. The reason I left the game angry with Dallas is because what we have seen from the Cowboys through two weeks tells me I was too low on them before the Micah trade. And had they kept Micah Parsons, that team could be really interesting. And Jerry's whole narrative that the media ran with that we're, you know, Mike is actually so bad against the run that this trade helps us long term and short term. We've now seen the defense in two games without him, and they can't do anything. That's the best game of Russell Wilson's whole life until he threw the pick at the end like that. We were talking about that being the final start of Russell's career. It ends up being maybe the best start of his career because that Cowboys defense is that bad without Micah. All right, let's go to the Niners.
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Damanza
So last week, you soft launch that you were rooting for Mac Jones, and He passed for 279 yards and three touchdowns. How was this game about you and Jimmy G?
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Nick Wright
Well, listen, and for anyone, for the folks, if they're watching this pod at the. At the First Things first offices, turn it way up or have Wilds come down to the conference room so we can hear this, because it is so galling to me that my colleagues, really, Wilds can't just say out loud on the show, all right, Nick was right all along about the Niners quarterback position being needing to be judged differently than everyone else's because of the Shanahan system. We argued for three years about Jimmy Garoppolo, with my take being he's actually not good, and, oh, he's been a guy. He's went to a Super bowl, been in a conference championship game, and my take was he's not good. That's the Shanahan system in the weapons. And a lot of quarterbacks could have that level of success. They then drop in the final pick of the draft. He goes to a conference championship game in a Super bowl. And we now then argue for two years that actually that guy's really special, too. That guy's really good. And then we. While we see Jimmy G leave there and immediately become a backup, we then see that last pick of the draft get hurt. They drop in Mac Jones, who's been horrible for three years, he looks really good. And the answer is, well, maybe Max, a new player. Jesus, guys, I know I can be obnoxious. I know I can be annoying at times. Sometimes, though, you just got to be like, damn it, Nick was right. Turns out Shanahan, certainly Shanahan plus McCaffrey can inflate a quarterback stats in a way that EPA per play can't judge. And the whole. I wouldn't pay Brock Purdy $55 million a year. Well, when you can get that production from a guy making 5 million, that's why. So I was always and have always been right about this and why the Niners just keep doing that.
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Damanza
Yeah, they just keep paying a quarterback less money.
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Nick Wright
I don't know.
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Damanza
Keep the weapons.
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Nick Wright
That's perplexing to me. I don't know why they, they feel like they need to spend money for just average talent at the position that you're paying them. Like they're an elite talent because of what you do to make. I don't know why they do it, but at this point, folks just don't want me to be right. And so they're going to create a bunch of different. Well, here's why. Here's why. It's just so silly. Ever sign up for a phone plan thinking, wow, great price. And then a few months later, surprise, your bill's higher. Boost mobile, you paid 20amonth. Forever. That's unlimited talk, text and Data starting just $25 a month. No price hikes, no contracts forever. Plus, Boost Mobile is now a legit nationwide 5G network. They've invested billions building 5G towers across the country. Visit boostmobile.com or head to your local Boost store today and get unlimited talk, text and data for 25amonth. Forever. 5G speeds not available in all areas. After 30 gigs, customers may experience slower speeds. Customers will pay 25amonth as long as they remain active on the Boost Unlimited plan. All right, Damanze, I promise you guys, hold on. I have to text my ride that I'm going to be out, that I'm a little late. Be out in five. Apologies. All right, I want to hit every game. So Falcons beat the Vikings. The story of that game is J.J. mcCarthy got hurt. The real story of that game is J.J. mcCarthy looked totally out of sorts of. And we have. We are now at seven of eight quarters. He's looked awful. Unbelievable. Fourth quarter, game one. But quarters one through three quarters, one through four of week two, he looked way over his skis. That's a concern. So that's a real worry. And now it's a Carson Wentz time in Minnesota. Don't love that. Ravens beat the Browns 41:17. Were you ever nervous, Demon?
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Damanza
It started off pretty slow, but I. I wouldn't say that I was ever nervous. Joe Flacco just gave it to us at one point. But yeah, dude, it's.
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Nick Wright
Yeah, I mean, it was. It was a weird game because the Ravens didn't have a ton of yards. Derrick Henry did nothing and the Browns moved the ball. But the Browns just. Browns did repeatedly got a pump blocked Flacco mistake. Like, you know, just bad, bad errors. And the Ravens, you know, last year the Ravens lost to the raiders in week two. Started 0 and 2. So this for them to put it on him like that, I thought was great. Bills beat the Jets. My only concern there is Josh Allen looked like. Broke his nose. Like the little nosebleed. Yeah, I thought it was worse than just nosebleed. Like I wondered what happened to him there. But the Bills looked awesome. Josh didn't have to do much. The jets defense all of a sudden is a huge concern. You let the. The Steelers score 34 and the Bills score 30. Speaking of the Steelers Seahawks defeat the Steelers 3,117. What everyone's focused on in that game is the Steelers kick returner forgetting the rule and the Seahawks getting a free touchdown out of it. You're shaking your head. What do you.
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Damanza
Is it Aaron Rodgers just completely blaming the guy after the game or is it.
- [89:41]
Nick Wright
Well, the kid. Calvin Austin. Calvin Austin, who's your age. He's a great kid through the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, Rogers was really bad in this game and he doesn't, he doesn't know how to accept that he is no longer good. And I think the week one mirage probably made it harder for him to accept it. But the Steelers defense now on pumpkin watch, just like the jets defense is and the Steelers offense. I don't think Roger's going to save the day. I, I don't know. Let me look real quick. Who did the Steelers have next? The Steelers. Oh, wow. Steelers at Patriots. That's a huge game for both sides there. So Steelers at Patriots. That's an interesting one. They didn't get the Vikings, who should be playing a backup, and the Browns. And then the schedule really gets hard. So the Steelers need to go at least two and one in the next three. I don't know if I'm optimistic about that. Patriots beat the dolphins 33:27. One of the more exciting games of the weekend. Drake May was awesome. Tool was not. Mike McDaniel seems ready to be fired. And demons, a Mike McDaniel could get fired this week. They play Thursday in Buffalo. That could be a bloodbath. And if that happens, I. I don't know. You know. I mean two is Tua and Tyreek are still not on the same page. I it's just I don't know how that game is really ugly in Miami.
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Damanza
Given what I've seen from Miami. I don't know how that game is anything but a blowout. Like I I don't Miami.
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Nick Wright
Yeah. I mean divisional game, divisional is the saving grace but still it feels like Buffalo's gonna mollywop them. Called to be the Broncos 2928 thanks to the rarely called leverage penalty after a 60 yard missed field goal. Listen, the Broncos deserve to be one and one. They had no business winning week one. They did. They should have won week two. They didn't. Also b Knicks was terrible week one and they won so nobody cared. He was awesome in week two. He threw one bad pick but he am I right about that? I think he threw the pick late in the game but he was unbelievable in the first half. But they lost anyway. Again. I picked the Broncos dean to miss the playoffs and I said I thought they were going to start awesome. I picked them to miss the playoffs anticipating a two and o start. They're now one and one and yet to look good and they still have that brutal end of season stretch of Chiefs commanders, Raiders, Packers, Jags, Chiefs, Chargers and it they next week they're at the Chargers winner potentially in first place or will be in first place in the division. And Jacob in the chat wants me to admit Daniel Jones to the truth. I'm getting a lot of Saints last year Derek Carr vibes from this colts Daniel Jones 20 numbers amazing and Saints last year started 20 car looked unbelievable. Then it all fell apart and Cardinals defeated the Panthers in one of the worst NFL games ever played. All right great job demons A appreciate you great job to Blue Duck volume. Thank you to Hard Rock. Thank you to boost. Thank you to seatgeek. Thank you to my driver who's been waiting for an hour. I gotta run. I'll see you guys on Colin in a little more than an hour. Thursday regular show, Friday gambling show all coming up this week. Talk to you guys. Then we'll try.
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