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Nick Wright
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Nick Wright
Welcome in what's Right with Nick Wright episode 372. And as always, this episode is brough to you by our friends at Boost Mobile. So much to do today. Damanze Sorry pal. Your your team. It's not sometimes in sports you, you know lose the battle but win the war. I fear the Ravens might have lost the battle and the war on Sunday. I fear they could be in real trouble moving forward now. They they have a division that's winnable and I don't really believe in Aaron Rodgers and so they have time to ready to steady the ship.
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Damanze
But at the the Chiefs have our.
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Nick Wright
Number at the what if the moment is this era of football. Yes, that is true. So we will get to that. We will also get to listen the Monday night the Monday night doubleheader was terrible. Those were not great games and sadly the only real news from those games is a absolutely catastrophic injury to one of the greatest players of the era in Tyree Kill. So we will get to that in a bit. Also of course a bizarre Cowboys packers game where the offer did hit by the way. Demons Demon hold on before we get to Chiefs Ravens, can I tell Demons a occasionally? I don't know. Do you like dream about a bet you want to make late? It's always you have a couple couple cocktails on a Saturday night and you're like I want to get this bet in. So is do I have it about right?
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Damanze
It just gets super late and I don't know. I think it's when everybody's sleeping. My brain is the most active. I'm like this all makes sense. I'm going to lock it in but obviously I'm in California so.
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Nick Wright
So demonte's in California so he can't put these teasers in on his own. And while he has been great. Did your teaser hit this week?
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Damanze
Yeah. Yeah. Back to a cover by the jets last night.
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Nick Wright
Oh okay. Perfect. Well that's what listen, that's why you tease up those points. He has been great on following all teaser rules consistently for the show pick. However he in the middle of the night Saturday night text me can you put this in for me? My biggest wager of the season. And not only did he not follow any of the teaser rules, it's just an abomination of a bet. It's the Eagles from minus three and a half to plus four and a half, the Chiefs up to plus ten and a half playing against his team and then the PA stay resistance because he loves eight point teasers. The packers who are were a perfect teaser candidate that actually wouldn't have won a six point teaser. Yeah, I told that wouldn't have won. Oddly teasing through the zero is the only reason this one because it was a tie the packers to plus one and a half. He put it in. By the way, I paid you this morning. I don't know if you saw it but I paid you this morning. I wake up to that at 7am Sunday morning that this guy wants. The worst teaser ever. But it worked.
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Damanze
Sunday night.
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Nick Wright
It cashed. Props to you. All right, let's get to Straight to voicemail brought to you by Boost Mobile. We're we are not on the show today. Getting to NBA media day reactions. We are not going to do baseball playoffs today. We will do some of that on Thursday. And JJ Redick evidently has 90 minute conversations with his friend. Chat. It's Chat GPT. I I'm not going to judge it. I know a lot of people, you know have a lot, you know, are very productive and get a lot of things done through AI and through talking with AI and working with AI. I have not fully embraced that technology as of yet. I'm sure at some point I will. Once upon a time I used to be on the radio making fun of the concept of Twitter and how I would never be on Twitter. And you know, now it's my only social media platform. So I recognize I'll get there one day. I'm just not there yet. Where I am though. Damanze is fully relaxed and comfortable and relieved about the Chiefs. Let's get right to the game of the weekend.
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Damanze
Yeah, so we all saw what happened on Sunday. Your Chiefs crushed my Ravens. We were obviously riddled with injuries. Our quarterback went down very early into the third quarter. But you said after starting 02.
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Nick Wright
That is not. Hold on. Your quarterback did not go down early in the third quarter. He went down at the end of the third quarter when when he tapped out when they were down 17. But go ahead.
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Damanze
All right. You said your Chiefs had the chance to rewrite history after starting 0 and 2 after this game. Do you think they did so well?
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Nick Wright
Listen, I they studied themselves and the 02 start. What they had to do was beat the Giants. That was an ugly game that obviously turned on the tackle that turned the tide and then they had to go take care of business against the Ravens. And take care of business they did. And not shockingly the moment the Chiefs had close to a competent receiving core. The offense looked good again the the last and we don't have to do this full history in depth, but it is worth mentioning that the Chiefs traded away Tyree Kill Mahomes snap in an off season changed the way he played based on the receivers. They had one league mvp. The very next year dealt with more drops than any quarterback literally in modern NFL history. Figured it out by the playoffs, won the super bowl the next year, dealt with the most injured wide receiver and running back room in the NFL, got all the way to the super bowl. And the next year, which was this year, walked into the season with his number one receiver suspended for six games and his number two receiver knocked out of game one. Three plays in and it looked shaky for a bit. And I told you guys that I knew real like I guess insight that that Chargers Week 1 game plan, Xavier Worthy was the epicenter of it and him being knocked out three plays in threw everything off but this. The fatalism surrounding the Chiefs from almost everyone else in the media was and I don't want to be a scold and I don't want to be more annoying than I naturally am, but it was embarrassing and it was so fickle and so myopic. Myopic, pardon me, as if they don't have a Hall of Fame head coach, a Hall of Fame caliber D coordinator and the most talented quarterback to ever live that they couldn't figure it out. And it was as if they were getting boat raced in these early games or as if they were playing terrible teams and losing. Neither were true. Now I want to make this clear. I don't think the Chiefs are, you know, quote fully back. If back means being the highest scoring team in the league, I don't think that's who they're going to be. I don't think the Chiefs have solved all their issues. I still think the running back room leaves a lot to be desired and their ability to get pressure on the opposing quarterback without sending a blitz at the moment leaves a lot to be desired. But you looked if you going into the Baltimore game, if you looked around the afc, the only team that really you could say had no holes to poke at it was the Chargers going into week four. But they already were dealing with some potentially mounting injuries that sadly they dealt with more of during week four in a game they had no business losing but lost. And so the Bills were undefeated, but the Bills defense had looked shaky and they, they had and have played three consecutive games against just bottom feeders. The Ravens were given this huge benefit of the doubt despite having the same record as the Chiefs and then every other team that had a good record like the Steelers or the Jags, you had real reason to be concerned about.
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Damanze
And so whose first, I mean I don't know if this matters, whose first slate of games, who do you think has had the tougher schedule through the first four weeks between the Ravens and the Chiefs?
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Nick Wright
I think it's been almost identical. Okay, so, like, they played each other. So if we want to call, like, I so call the Chiefs Ravens game, you know, a wash, so to speak. The Ravens played the Browns. The Chiefs played the Giants, which is the Giant. I think the Giants are better than the Browns, but the Browns have a better defense. You know what I mean? Call that a wash. And then the Ravens played the Bills. The Chiefs played the Eagles. The Ravens play. Or I guess we could do Bills, Chargers, Eagles, Lions. You know what I mean? Like, I think the Bills are a little better than the Chargers, but I think the Eagles are a little better than the Lions. So to me, it's very, very similar. Like, as far as what the opening slate was. Now, you could argue the Chiefs Ravens game being in Kansas City, like, the Ravens having to go on the road for that tilts it. But the other piece of it that was maddening to me and has been even more maddening in the after. There have been two things that have happened in the aftermath of this game that really drive me crazy. And I had kind of a rough moment near the end of yesterday's show on TV with Wilds. Yesterday, I'll apologize to him when I see him today. It's not really the tone of our show, but I got. I got angry when I shouldn't have the. And I mean, I don't think he took it, like, terribly. Like, I think he might be surprised when I apologize to him, but maybe not. But. But it. Two things have happened that to me are so frustrating. The first one is, I understand the Ravens during the game lost Roquan Smith and late in the game lost Humphrey, and once the game was over, over, over lost Nate Wiggins. But they went into the game missing four starters every. And the defense already had been bad all year. Everyone knew that and picked them. That's fine, by the way. Like, you can pick whoever you want. And I'm not acting like that game was a lock for the. The way it played out, the Chiefs had full control. But, you know, something goes differently. Maybe not, but to know the team has those injuries going in and then afterwards be like, wow, of course Kansas City did that. Look at all the injuries on defense. It's just bullshit. It's the. If. If your handicap going into the game was. I think the Ravens at full strength are better, but they're not full strength. Therefore, I think the Chiefs will win. And then you see that game, you're like, yeah, that's what I thought. So be it. But that wasn't anyone's handicap. The handicap was even with the Ravens defensive injuries, the Chiefs offense with Patrick freaking Mahomes on it and Andy Reid calling the plays is so broken that they're not going to be able to move the ball.
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Damanze
I mean Vegas had them as underdogs as well, correct? Yeah.
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Nick Wright
Like which it's so nobody again, two and a half point underdogs at home to a one and two team that the two, the two competent offenses that they had played move the ball at will. And so to then Monday morning quarterback be like, oh well obviously this was going to happen. That's not what you believed. That wasn't people's picks, that wasn't people's opinion. The conversation going into the game was who needed it more? Kansas City. Who do you trust more? Baltimore. Good. I, I watched Orlovsky do the Ravens are built to beat the Chiefs. What it's like. No, they're built to beat the Chiefs in the Bengals. They're just, they, they're not built to beat the. I think he said the Chargers and the Lions. Something. I don't know. I. It was consent and the other piece of it was, and this is my other level of frustration because while Ronnie Stanley did go out during this game, the Ravens offense is healthy and it was that, well, the Chiefs aren't going to be able to slow down a Ravens offense that no one's been able to slow down. They score 30 plus in every game. And that of course is not what happened. And so that frustrated me.
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Daniel Jeremiah
What's up everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here and I'm Bucky Brooks on Move the Sticks. We take you inside the game. From scouting reports and player development to.
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Matt Jones
Hey, this is Matt Jones. I'm Drew Franklin and this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining. And twice a week that is exactly what you're gonna get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Looks like something that should not be sold. Oh my. So that was my other big Colts takeaway. They sold that?
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Ty
Yes.
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Matt Jones
Might want to go back to the Colts at the Colts stadium. Yeah, I might want to go back to the drawing board on that. Yeah. I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well. It's worked for generations. We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go. I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73. He is a young 73. He is spry. I wouldn't fight him. I would listen NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Dan
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Dan
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Ty
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Nick Wright
Toyota the official automotive partner of the NFL. Visit toyota.com NFL now to learn more. And the other thing that frustrated me had nothing to do with Brewer Wilds, but it had to do with me listening to Simmons Pod as I do every Monday morning, listening to Greg Rosenthal's NFL Daily Pod as I do every day, listening to, you know, a lot of them, watching the Monday morning shows and all of it. And I was like, I could not believe that I was going to once again have to be, I guess, the bad guy. In pointing out the obvious fact that this game turned on a totally predictable yet inexplicable horrific Lamar pick. And the the Ravens were up seven to three with the ball on first down around midfield, and Lamar reach pedaled backwards and then threw up a prayer for no reason whatsoever. A guy who has and again, people can be mad at me, but here are the facts of it and every year people get mad at me and then every year we get another piece of evidence that I'm stone right about this. And then every year I have to listen to folks stick their fingers in the ears and be like, nope, actually wrong. Lamar is the greatest passer of the football we've ever seen, is the highest passer rating ever, turns the ball over. And all the big game playoffs games against the chief stuff is just dumb random luck. In the last 30 games Lamar has played, he has multiple turnovers in three of them. The AFC Championship game against Kansas City, the divisional round against Buffalo, and Sunday against Kansas City. I guess that's a coincidence. In the last 30 games Lamar is played, he has thrown seven interceptions, which is remarkable that he's only thrown seven. He had like a 50 to 4 touchdown interception ratio. You know, in the stretch you move the playoffs. It was crazy. The interceptions are as follows. Four regular season interceptions prior to yet Sunday, three of which we played the video, hit his receiver in the hands and then either got like bobbled or stolen. One of which Bateman just stopped running his route. But four passes that did not need to be picked. The only three in the last 30 games. The only three interceptions Lamar has thrown where it's like, what the hell was that AFC championship game into triple coverage in the fourth quarter against Kansas City, divisional round game early against B against Buffalo, and the one Sunday he also in those three games had inexplicable fumbles out of nowhere. To pretend like that is coincidental when we once again saw Lamar throwing his helmet out of Sorts. It's just dishonest. And I know Bill Polian was mean in his commentary towards the guy eight years ago. And I know some of the worst actors in media, sports or otherwise tried to pigeonhole him as a wide receiver in a pretty nakedly, at times racist way. I get that and I understand because of that there has been a, almost protectionism and a want for folks to see him succeed at the highest level. I don't disagree with that. But why do we have to pretend what is obviously true is not. Why do we have to pretend that this is a unique thing we haven't seen across sports our whole lives? The all time great legendary player who sadly gets tight in his biggest spots and plays his worst in his biggest moments. That's part of sports, man. And nobody was going back and taking away Peyton Manning's MVPs in his records because he struggled massively in the biggest spot. But we weren't pretending it was coincidental either. Talked about the Peyton Manning face, talked about how he got anxious, talked about how his brother was like the bizarro version of him, a wholly mediocre player for giant expanses of his career who somehow in the biggest spots played his absolute best. And for some reason with Lamar, we got to pretend it's not happening. I gotta, and listen, I, I, I don't know this guy, but I think he does good work. I think he's a smart commentator. But I Deontay Lee at the ringer, I before the Lamar fumble, I tweeted, lamar is basically gone two years without making that this was on the pick, without making that exact type of mistake. Except for in the 23 AFC championship game, the 24 divisional round, and just, just now against Kansas City. Probably a coincidence. And Deontay Lee quote tweets and right. Nobody can identify the intrinsic traits of a winner and loser like Nick Wright. He is the seer. It's like, no, bro, I'm not, I'm not trying to tell you, I'm not trying to act like I look in a guy's eyes and can determine whether he has the it factor. I'm just trying to act like I've watched this guy's whole fucking career and from day one, he has been a guy who in the postseason or in these instances now when he sees Patrick across the field, plays his worst football. And we can act like it's a small sample, but he's played the Chiefs seven times. He's played, I think, 10 playoff games. Like it's not a small sample. And I My frustration is. And again. So this is the other thing. Damanze and this is what I'll say before we keep it moving and maybe Damante, you'll tell me this is unfair. I don't think if I'm a Ravens fan, I don't think the thing that I came out of that game most disheartened about was the defense. And the reason for that is obviously, if the defense is this bad, they are drawing debt. You know what I mean? They can't have the worst defense in football. But what to me was so disheartening about it, if you're a Ravens fan, is you're now going to have in the back of your head. Even if we get the defense fixed by. When we get to these moments against Josh or Patrick, are we getting MVP Lamar, or are we getting throwing his head back, slamming the helmet, taking terrible sacks, throwing off his back foot. Lamar, I. That to me is the concern.
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Damanze
Go ahead. Defense definitely has to get better. I think that'll help a lot, obviously. But with it's. It's every single time you are realizing more and more that I think it's a mental thing. It's not like a physical. He's pretty. I don't want to say he. I don't want to put it all on Lamar, but seems pretty checked out from the start. I don't want to say checked out, like disinterested. But I mean, there was a nice third and 11 that he picked up on one of the. When they were still up. And he still just kind of walked back to the huddle, looked a little sad.
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Nick Wright
He's.
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Damanze
Yeah, he's. His emotions, he's just not up in spry like I see him in other games. And it's just. It is a little disheartening.
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Nick Wright
He said he tried to take it back, but he said a few years ago that Mahomes had been his kryptonite. And he was asked like, member. And it was like the how, you know, excited do you get to play the Chiefs? And he's like, I'm not excited at all. Like, it was kind of charming almost. But then he tried to pull it back later. He's like, no, I don't feel that way. It. It's in his head. And I don't think the. His team and this is what I want your take on. I don't think the play calling in these spots does him any favors by trying to put the whole game on him. You have Derek Henry Derek.
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Damanze
Yeah, exactly. We weren't using him as much as we should have in the game.
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Nick Wright
And it was the same story in the AFC championship game. They didn't have Derrick Henry then, but they had a great running game. They wouldn't run the ball. Like it's. They. They. It's like they. It sometimes feels like they go into these games like trying to prove a point that Lamar can just, he can do it out duel Patrick, like just go get the, get the win and even.
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Damanze
And then even in a couple instances where he would have normally evaded, he just kind of. I don't know, he just seemed like he almost took the sack. I, I see Lamar getting out of some of those situations that he got trapped in, but.
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Nick Wright
Well, it's been two weeks in a row where like they. Yeah, and, and so listen, and I'm not going to kill him too much on some of those sacks because so some of the greatest Lamar plays ever are plays. It looks like he should have been sacked somehow gets away and then makes a crazy throw. So to keep those available, sometimes you're just not going to get away. But yeah, I mean, he wasn't good and I just don't think it's coincidental. Let's get to some of these follow ups here, pal.
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Damanze
So with Baltimore, do you think that Kansas City is in a good spot right now? Because obviously Baltimore super down. So like is. Is Kansas City humming or is Baltimore, you know, just at a heavy disadvantage right now?
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Nick Wright
So listen, I think that. I don't think everything is, you know, the sky is falling in Baltimore because I do think that Lamar is going to instantly be back to being regular season Lamar. Like I expect Lamar against a great Texans defense to be excellent. Yeah, I expect Lamar against the Rams to be excellent. Like, I don't. I'm not too worried about the hamstring. That was a weird one because he got no treatment. Like the trainers weren't walking on it. Yeah, yeah, it was like he wrapped. It was. That was a weird one. So I think he's going to play and I think he'll be good. But I think the defense, you know, they're going to just have to outscore people and hope the defense gets healthy by the end of the year. And I don't think Kansas City is fully fixed, but I think Kansas City has now fully steadied themselves and the Chargers did them a huge favorite by blowing that game to the Giants. And now it's like, you know, in short order, the Chargers could theoretically be. Or the Chiefs could be back in first place. What else do we have here.
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Damanze
So chat. Andy asks Nick. Nick worried that the chief success is seemingly tied to a skinny wide receiver's health? Xavier Worthy.
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Nick Wright
Yeah, I mean, I.
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Damanze
Big focal point.
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Nick Wright
He was huge. Now listen, Xavier was healthy all last year and took some big shots. Yes. But I am worried about that. I also think though that once they get Rashid back, it's less tied just to Worthy. And in theory, once they get Rashid back, the Chief should have the best receiving core Mahomes has had in four years. Rasheed Worthy. Thornton's been nice, a nice addition. Like, it kind of pushes Hollywood Brown. Yeah.
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Damanze
I gotta say, I'm obviously a Ravens fan, but you guys were. You guys did look good in the game. But.
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Nick Wright
And it was fun. And, and the Chiefs are more fun when they play like that. And Mahomes, listen, those Mahomes red zone touchdowns to Thornton and to Juju were sick. Those were starts that. Yes. He had to fire those in and I thought, I thought those were. Those were excellent. All right, let's do one more Baltimore follow up for him.
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Damanze
What's. What's going on with Derrick Henry? Like, obviously he's had the, the track record of fumbling this season, but his usage was.
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Nick Wright
I wouldn't worry about the fumbles. I just don't know why they didn't give him the ball more. It was just so weird to me that they wouldn't give him the ball more. He had, I think four carries for 31 yards on the opening drive. Yeah. And. And so listen, I, I'm not ready to do Harbaugh hot seat, especially because here's the other thing. I still think they're going to win the AFC North Demons. A. The Bengals are a mess. The. The Browns have the worst offense in the league outside of maybe Tennessee. And I don't. I don't trust Pittsburgh yet. Now, I thought they were going to lose. Like I was wrong about Pittsburgh Sunday morning. If so, let me put it like this. I think right now, 10 wins still wins Baltimore, the AFC north, and I obviously think they can get to 10 wins. They would have to go nine and four the rest of the way and I expect them to definitely be able to do that. Now, if Pittsburgh really gets rolling, maybe I'll adjust. But I wouldn't panic about missing the playoffs on Baltimore. I just panic about what have I seen this year that makes me feel like I'm a real contender? And my answer to that question is nothing. Today's show brought to you by our presenting sponsor, Hard Rock Bet new customers can place a $5 bet and if it hits you not only get your winnings but also $150 in bonus bets. The leaves are falling, but the stakes are rising. Postseason baseball is here and every swing could change the season. Step up to the plate and take your own swing on hard rock bet. Today. New customers place a $5 bet and if it hits, you get not only your winnings but also $150 in extra bonus bets. Plus, every day this week on Hard Rock Bet, you can get a profit boost for a postseason baseball parlay. New promos every day boost your same game parlay or same game parlay max so your bet pays extra winnings. Want to see what everyone else is betting on tonight? Who's going to home her top picks or parlays across any other sport? The Hard Rock Bet app literally shows you. It's another reason. Download the app just for the info tap discover and you can see trending picks and parlays at any time. Download the Hard Rock Bet app and make your first deposit payable and bonus bets. Not a cash offer offered by the Seminole Tribe of Florida in Florida. Offered by Seminole hard Rock Digital LLC in all other states. Must be 21 plus and physically present in Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee or Virginia to play. Terms and conditions apply. Concerned about gambling in Florida? Call 1-888- admit it in Indiana. If you or someone you know has a gambling problem and wants help, call 1809 with it gambling problem. Call 1-800-GAMBLER in Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee or Virginia.
- [37:37]
Daniel Jeremiah
What's up everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here and I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move the Sticks, we take you inside the game, from scouting reports and.
- [37:44]
Bucky Brooks
Player development to team building philosophies, coaching trends and how front offices construct winning rosters.
- [37:50]
Daniel Jeremiah
Every week we study the tape, talk to decision makers and share the insights you won't find anywhere else.
- [37:56]
Bucky Brooks
It's the kind of conversation that connects the dots. From college football prospects to the NFL.
- [38:01]
Daniel Jeremiah
Stars of tomorrow, we break down the draft, analyze matchups and evaluate how teams put it all together on game day.
- [38:08]
Bucky Brooks
Plus, we dig in the coaching strategies, roster construction, and the trends that shape the league year after year.
- [38:14]
Daniel Jeremiah
Whether you're a die hard fan or just love understanding the game on a deeper level, we give you the full picture.
- [38:20]
Bucky Brooks
If you want insight that goes beyond the box score, this podcast is for you.
- [38:24]
Daniel Jeremiah
Don't miss it. Listen to the Move the Six podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [38:35]
Matt Jones
Hey, this is Matt Jones, I'm Drew Franklin and this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining and twice a week that is is exactly what you're going to get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Looks like something that should not be sold. Oh my. So that was my other big Colts takeaway. They sold that?
- [39:00]
Ty
Yes.
- [39:01]
Matt Jones
Might want to go back to the Colts stadium. Yeah, I might want to go back to the drawing board on that. Yeah. I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well. It's worked for generations. We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go. I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73. He is a young 73. He is spry. I wouldn't fight him. I would listen NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
- [39:36]
Dan
I'm Dan. He's Ty.
- [39:38]
Nick Wright
Hello.
- [39:39]
Dan
And we're the Solid verbal College football podcast.
- [39:42]
Ty
College football season is here and you know what that means.
- [39:48]
Dan
Your team is going to break your heart three times probably before Halloween.
- [39:53]
Nick Wright
Uh huh.
- [39:53]
Ty
But fear not, the solid verbal will be right there with you through every soul crushing loss and impossible comeback.
- [40:00]
Dan
Join us all season long, all year long, as we ride the rollercoaster of this ridiculous sport.
- [40:07]
Ty
Whether you're a d Die Hard fan or a casual observer, we'll help you make sense of all the chaos and of course, celebrate the madness. Tune in for previews, recaps, bits you won't hear anywhere else, and all the emotional support you need as a college football fan.
- [40:23]
Dan
We don't just love college football, Ty. We live it.
- [40:27]
Ty
Listen to the Solid verbal college football podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [40:38]
Nick Wright
I'm Marcus Grant. And I'm Michael F. Florio, and together we host the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Ready to dominate your fantasy league this season? Then you need the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Your ultimate source for player news, draft tips and winning strategies. Whether you're a rookie manager or a fantasy vet, we've got the insight to help you you crush your opponents. Listen to the NFL Fantasy Football podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or.
- [41:05]
Ty
Wherever you get your podcasts.
- [41:08]
Nick Wright
Toyota, the official Automotive partner of the NFL. Visit toyota.com NFL now to learn more. Let's go to Packers, Cowboys, pal.
- [41:18]
Damanze
So you said on Thursday's show that there was no way that Dallas is going to be Green Bay, and I guess you were correct to a certain extent. That game ended 40:40 in a tie in overtime. Mike had eight quarterback pressures and probably got to Dak when it mattered the most. But you said the bigger story of the game here was Green Bay's offense late. What did you see there?
- [41:39]
Nick Wright
All right, so let me do with Micah first quickly, and then we'll do the Packers. Listen, I'm. The packers defense had been a plus through three weeks, and then they were really bad on Sunday night. There's no, you know, there's no getting around that. That's obvious. They were really bad Sunday night. I did think Micah's shoestring tackle on Dak saved the packers because Dak was going to score a touchdown. Held him to a field goal because of it. But that was a disappointing performance for the packers. And on the Mica front, I. I can't watch the. I can't watch the Cowboys offense look the way it has looked through a month and not feel like, man, had they just gotten it worked out with Micah, they. They'd be like a fringe contender. Dak is playing out of his mind, bro. Like, he's playing great and doing that against that defense without CD Lamb. Pickens having the game of his life was so impressive, and so it just feels so bittersweet. If you're a Cowboys fan where it's like, man, if we had just gotten this worked out with Micah and our defense was just average, like, we'd be a real team. I think right now they'd be three and one instead of one, two and one, and they'd be a problem for teams.
- [43:32]
Damanze
You think Jerry validated the trade with that game?
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Nick Wright
I think it's so that the thing is, I think it's the opposite. I. I know, but a lot of people had that take because the packers defense was bad, but the Cowboys defense was just as bad.
- [43:48]
Damanze
Yeah.
- [43:49]
Nick Wright
And so, like, I, I know this feels maybe a little unfair, but the better the Cowboys offense plays, the more I hate the trade because it's like, man, you had a real chance to contend. Now the end of the game is the concerning part. So I, I want to give Matt LaFleur grace in this regard. He was terrified of Brandon Aubrey. What Matt LaFleur was trying to avoid was the packers kicking a field goal with 30 seconds left and Then having to kick off to this mutant kicker Brandon Aubrey indoors where they could potentially get to God. If they get to their own 45 yard line and it's a 72 yard field goal, you'd feel like got a chance. And with the new kickoff rule, if you, you know, kick a touchback, they start at the 35. Like the Cowboys probably fought thought, man, they could start 15 yards from field goal range. So they were trying to make sure if they kicked a field goal that if they kicked a field goal that Green Bay was not going to have any time. I understand that.
- [45:24]
Damanze
And Aubrey also has the ability to. Oh, I'm sorry. To get the kickoff to you to get. Start every position.
- [45:31]
Nick Wright
No, ignore that, Ignore, ignore that. And so the, the I understand Matt LaFleur being cautious. I don't understand or I didn't understand at first his total lack of trust in Jordan Love who's playing a good game to take any chances to just win the game with a touchdown. The way you remove Brandon Aubrey from the equation is you score a touchdown, okay, you score a touchdown, the game's over. But it was kind of validated by the fact that Jordan Love almost butchered the end of that game. They're very lucky that the Cowboys timekeeper is ethical and what didn't just delay by a half second and let the clock run out, you would, that was a very nice thing for a road timekeeper to do. But Jordan.
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Damanze
But that was what happened though. Like that was the amount of time.
- [46:41]
Nick Wright
That was, I mean maybe, I mean.
- [46:44]
Damanze
Like three seconds it, when it hit.
- [46:48]
Nick Wright
The ground, like it feels like if there were tenths of a second to Monze that that thing would have been like point two.
- [46:55]
Damanze
Right?
- [46:55]
Nick Wright
And if it's point two, like you could probably just be like, oh, it's, you know. But regardless, the, the fact of the matter is it's second down, the packers have no timeouts and Jordan Love, instead of throwing it away or like scrambling and throwing it away, checks it down. And now the clock inbounds. And now the clock's running. He has to know if I cannot get this snap off at with 10 seconds left, I need to just spike the ball and we'll take the field goal. They almost got a procedural penalty which would have been a 10 second runoff. Game over. They everything happened late and they almost ran out of time. That for a guy who's not even close to a rookie, he's been in the league a long time at this point that was a brutal and almost just kill like end the game. End of game sequence that made, that made me more concerned about the Packers super bowl hopes than anything else was the fact that I still don't have full trust in Jordan Love. I just don't. And so that was, I thought that was really shaky and I thought La Flor showed he didn't fully trust Jordan Love by not letting Love just try to go for the touchdown. With the play calls, it seemed like it was very conservative out on the edges. Don't make a mistake. And seemed, and the other thing is, I was surprised Green Bay seemingly was okay with the tie when they're going to be in a dog fight for that division and for seating and the win is going to be way more valuable for them. But. So that's it. All right, what's. Follow up here.
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Damanze
Would you, would you change the OT rules, overtime rules, and if you would, how would you change them?
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Nick Wright
Yeah, I, People are like, oh, you shouldn't have ties or it make the period longer. I, I totally disagree with that. Football is a brutal, dangerous, violent sport. They do not need to be playing longer when it's the regular season. I would be totally fine with moving.
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Damanze
Overtime in the OT game.
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Nick Wright
No removing overtime. The goal is to win in regulation. And if you don't win in regulation, it's a tie. Deal with it. I would be fine with that. And if you're not going to do that, I like sudden death and I know people are. The first score wins. Have it be over. Have it over. People are like, oh, that's unfair. Then it comes down to a coin flip. Again, if you frame the conversation as I always have, which is the goal of the game is to win in 60 minutes. Once you fail at that goal, randomness and variance and bad luck comes into play. And so this idea that oh no, they should have kept that game going is absurd.
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Damanze
Yeah, no, definitely not that.
- [50:21]
Nick Wright
And so. Or bring back the 15 minute overtime. I don't like any of that. The goal is to win in regulation and if you don't win in regulation, it could be, you know, it's subject to what people consider unfair. But I, I would be fine with getting rid of OT in the regular season entirely, personally. And I think that also would lead to some very interesting late game decisions. Like if a team is down three late in a game, do they go for a field goal knowing, all right, the best we can do now is tire. Do they go for the touchdown? The team is down seven and scores a touchdown super late. Do they automatically go for two? I think that, I think those Things could be interesting. All right, let's go on to some other games.
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Damanze
So the Eagles are still undefeated, but it has not looked very Good. Hertz had 0 second half passing yards. Saquon can't get it going. A.J. brown is distraught. Even with all those injuries, we talked about how much of a disadvantage Tampa Bay was last week. They still came down. They were a baker goal line interception away from making the game. What's going over there? Yeah, what's going on over there in Philly?
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Nick Wright
So they just can't play a normal game. I give them a listen. They have an excellent team and you know, they last two weeks ago they block a field goal to win a game. This week they get the game going with a blocked punt. You know what I mean? Like I in a block punt, touchdown. It's really impressive. But two weeks ago they had negative passing yards in the first half and then were excellent the second half. This week they were excellent in the first half and then zero completions in the second half and they just can't. And AJ Brown is tweeting, you know, passive aggressive scripture. He's not happy. It's, it's now they've had a brutal schedule and they're 4 0. They played the Cowboys, the Chiefs, the Rams, the Bucks. So I, I, I'm not negging the Eagles here. I do think that they, I called them the Chiefs of last year last week where I'm like, you're undefeated but everybody's nitpicking you. I now would recommend the Eagles take a page out of the Chiefs of two years ago book. When, if you remember when the Chiefs were the defending champs and they were having some struggles during the year and I brushed it off with their practicing. I was like, they are working on things so they are malleable during the games. So they are malleable late in the year and can beat you a bunch of different ways. And then I was proven exactly correct. I think that might be worthwhile for Philadelphia. It might be worthwhile to use some of these games to be like, hey, let's have the purpose of this game for AJ Brown to leave it happy. Let's, let's draw up some in breaking over the middle routes where he never gets thrown the ball and see if, see what it looks like, see if Jalen can be more reliable as a pure drop back passer. Just so we have that club in our bag. It is because right now they are just playing weird games with weird vibes afterwards because one of the very best players on their team is clearly unhappy. And. And the other piece of it is Saquon is not nearly as effective this year as he was last year. Now, maybe that changes, but we're a quarter of the way through, and he's 3.1 yards per carry. He's gone for 60, 88, 46, and 43 in these games. He has 70 total receiving yards. And this is coming off one of the greatest years. Last year, he averaged a Monza 5.8 yards per carry. This year, he's averaging barely half that at 3.1. Like that is. That's a real, I don't want to say concern, but it's something to look at if you need to figure out, okay, if he's not dominant, what are other ways we can beat you? And so listen, Philly, they're the defending champs. They've won 20 out of 21 games or 19 out of 20 games. They've won in a bunch of different ways. I have a ton of respect for it, and I got to give Sirianni credit begrudgingly, but they're trying to get through 20 games here and. Right. And you can't have. In two weeks, like, the two of the entire league, 32 teams have played four games. So that's 128, you know, games, two halves a game. So there's been 256 halves of football played in the NFL this year. The two worst passing halves of the 256 were the first half by Philadelphia two weeks ago and the second half by Philadelphia two days ago. That's weird. And I'm not even, like, banging on jail in here or anything. It's just weird. And I don't know. I don't think they can ignore it just because they've been winning. All right, what else do we got?
- [56:59]
Damanze
Baker was talking trash, down three touchdowns. How many other quarterbacks in the league do you think are doing?
- [57:05]
Nick Wright
Maybe. Maybe just Baker. And I do understand some of the Eagle fans being frustrated, like, do the taunting rules not apply to this guy? But that's just Baker. There's a little bit of, like, the Draymond effect of, oh, he does this the entire game and always. So the refs get a little, you know, numb to it. But speaking of Baker, it's a perfect segue to our brand new sponsored segment, College Football's Walk on Mount Rushmore, presented by Chad Powers, now streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney plus for bundle subscribers. Each of the next four weeks, I'll be revealing my Mount Rushmore of college football walk ons paying tribute to the legends who started with no scholarship, no spotlight and still carved out unforgettable careers like you are going to see Chad Powers hopefully do on the new show on Hulu and Hulu on Disney plus again I've gotten a sneak preview of the show. It's really fun and we'll talk more about that later. But the first person on the Mount Rushmore of walk ons is of course Baker Mayfield who took being a walk on twice to two time being the Big 12 Offensive Player of the year, was an All American, won the Heisman. He walked on at Texas Tech and you know, found, fought his way and got a starting job but that wasn't enough for him. He then walked on at Oklahoma and had truly a record setting college career. He left college at the time with the highest passer rating ever. His first year at Oklahoma, 36 touchdowns, seven picks in fourth in the Heisman voting. His second year at Oklahoma, 40 touchdowns, eight picks, completed 71% of his passes, third in the Heisman voting and his final year at Oklahoma, 43 touchdowns, six picks again over 70% completions, first in the Heisman voting, won the one, the Maxwell Award, won the Walter Camp Award, the whole nine. And he had to walk on everywhere and now he's kind of been a walk on in the NFL. Had to walk on with the Bucks, kind of fight with Kyle Trask for his job and has just been, you know, turned himself into a great, great player. So the first up in the walk on Mount Rushmore brought to you by Chad Powers now streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney plus is Baker Mayfield. Make sure to check out Chad Powers new episode streaming every Tuesday on Hulu and Hulu on Disney plus for bundle subscribers.
- [60:11]
Daniel Jeremiah
What's up everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here and I'm Bucky Brooks on Move the Sticks. We take you inside the game, from scouting reports and player development to team.
- [60:20]
Bucky Brooks
Building for life philosophies, coaching trends and how front offices construct winning rosters.
- [60:24]
Daniel Jeremiah
Every week we study the tape, talk to decision makers and share the insights you won't find anywhere else.
- [60:30]
Bucky Brooks
It's the kind of conversation that connects the dots. From college football prospects to the NFL.
- [60:35]
Daniel Jeremiah
Stars of tomorrow, we break down the draft, analyze matchups and evaluate how teams put it all together on game day.
- [60:42]
Bucky Brooks
Plus, we dig into coaching strategies, roster construction and the trends that shape the league year after year.
- [60:48]
Daniel Jeremiah
Whether you're a die hard fan or just love understanding the game on a deeper level, we give you the full picture.
- [60:54]
Bucky Brooks
If you want insight that goes beyond the box score. This podcast is for you.
- [60:58]
Daniel Jeremiah
Don't miss it. Listen to the Move the Six podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [61:09]
Matt Jones
Hey, this is Matt Jones and I'm Drew Franklin and this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be in full, informative and entertaining. And twice a week. That is exactly what you're gonna get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Looks like something that should not be sold. Oh my. So that was my other big Colts takeaway. They sold that?
- [61:35]
Ty
Yes.
- [61:35]
Matt Jones
Might want to go back to the Colts stadium. Yeah, I might want to go back to the drawing board on that. Yeah. I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well. It's worked for generations. We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go. I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73. He is a young 73. He is spry. I wouldn't fight him. I would Listen NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
- [62:10]
Dan
I'm Dan, he's Ty.
- [62:12]
Nick Wright
Hello.
- [62:13]
Dan
And we're the Solid Verbal College Football podcast.
- [62:16]
Ty
College football season is here. And you know what that means.
- [62:22]
Dan
Your team is going to break your heart three times, probably before Halloween.
- [62:27]
Nick Wright
Uh huh.
- [62:27]
Ty
But fear not, the Solid Verbal will be right there with you through every soul crushing loss and impossible comeback.
- [62:34]
Dan
Join us all season long, all year long, as we ride the roller coaster of this ridiculous sport.
- [62:41]
Ty
Whether you're a diehard fan or a casual observer, we'll help you make sense of all the chaos and of course, celebrate the madness. Tune in for previews, recaps, bits you won't hear anywhere else, and all the emotional support you need as a college football fan.
- [62:57]
Dan
We don't just love college football, Ty, we live it.
- [63:01]
Ty
Listen to the Solid Verbal College Football podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [63:12]
Nick Wright
I'm Marcus Grant. And I'm Michael F. Florio. And together we host the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Ready to dominate your fantasy league this season? Then you need the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Your ultimate source for player news, draft tips and winning strategies. Whether you're a rookie manager or a fantasy vet We've got the insight to help you crush your opponents. Listen to the NFL Fantasy football podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or.
- [63:39]
Ty
Wherever you get your podcasts.
- [63:43]
Nick Wright
Toyota, the official automotive partner of the NFL. Visit toyota.com NFL now to learn more. All right, demons, let's get to one more game before we get to Tyreek and some of the quick hitters.
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Damanze
So your Jags improved a 3 to 1, all while making Purdy look awful. Could things have gone any better for you in this game, you hater?
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Nick Wright
Well, I'm not a hater, but, I mean, Purdy came back from injury and had three turnovers. The Jags are. The Jags are something to deal with. And you know what? The. You know, that's the Monday night game.
- [64:20]
Damanze
Oh, yeah, It's. It's the right bull is what you want to. Probably want to call that, huh?
- [64:24]
Nick Wright
Oh, yeah. Oh, nice. Nice. I like that. I should have thought of that myself.
- [64:30]
Damanze
What if Jacksonville wins? You'd be.
- [64:34]
Nick Wright
That'll be a bummer. If Jacksonville wins. You got to take them real serious. Yeah. Because here's the deal. The Jags offense has not been that good. Like, I can't be like, oh, I told you so about Trevor. Trevor's not been that good. He has five touchdowns, four picks less than six yards per attempt to 75 rating. That's not their story. Their story is last year. This is such a crazy stat that I want to make sure it's correct. I. I know it's correct, but I just want to double check takeaways. It's their takeaways compare compared to last year. So I'm double checking this. Last year, the Jaguars. Yeah, it is correct. How many takeaways do you think the Jacksonville Jaguars had last season?
- [65:29]
Damanze
I'll go three.
- [65:31]
Nick Wright
Well, that's crazy, but it's. You played the game poorly. You played the game poorly.
- [65:38]
Damanze
It's like seven or something.
- [65:39]
Nick Wright
So low. You went so low that it's no longer crazy what I'm saying. I should have said this the second. The. The second worst team in takeaways last year were the Browns and The Patriots with 12. The Jags had nine. They had nine takeaways all season. This year they have 13. They have. They have 13 takeaways through four games. They had nine takeaways through 17 last year. So that's been the story. The defense has been excellent. Liam Cohen's fired up, wanting to fight Bob Sala. Bob Sala's threatening to end his effing life. Whole thing. The. But The Jags, because the Texans have been such a mess. The Colts came back down to earth a bit. The Jags are legitimate.
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Damanze
The Colts, though, hey, I mean, came down to earth a little bit. That team is serious, though.
- [66:41]
Nick Wright
Like, that team is serious. That was an impressive game, even in the loss.
- [66:45]
Damanze
Yeah.
- [66:47]
Nick Wright
But like, if we were right now, you. It's hard to make an AFC top five and not really consider including the Jags and the Niners. On the other hand, I just. Purdy's trying to do a little too much. And now they play Thursday night. Pierce all got added to the injury report. Purdy went back on the injury report. I think the Niners could be in real, real trouble. All right, so I want to talk about Tyreek for a second here. First, I want to say this. I. I think the Internet can be real shitty at times. And the whole, like, oh, Tyreek was so sick of playing with Tua. He's clapping and smiling, guys, if you guys. Because when he was carted off the field, he seemed, like, euphoric almost. Yeah. Guys, I do not think you should take anything away from how a person is reacting moments after they suffer a truly, even by NFL standards, catastrophic injury. As far as what that. The shock and the adrenaline and the emotion, what. How. What that does to your brain. Like, I. That is, I would imagine, as close to being not sober. Like, the. The way being hammered can impact your brain. I would imagine that's similar. So I'm not. I thought that was crummy even by modern Internet standards. And listen, I'm not trying to defend across the board, you know, Tyreek, the guy. But I thought that was unfair. Here's the other thing, man. That is the type of injury to Monze that he could be out for all of next year. That's as bad as it gets. The knee dislocation is not a knee cap dislocation. It is a true full knee dislocation with all the ligament tears that go along with it. And I. I don't know if he comes back and then type of game, too.
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Damanze
He's the speedster.
- [69:22]
Nick Wright
That's.
- [69:22]
Damanze
That's the type.
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Nick Wright
Right? That's the thing. Like, I don't know what that will do to his ability to be an impactful player. And so it does feel at least kind of appropriate to at least look at if this is it for Tyree Kill, which it might be. Tyree Kill, the football player is quite simply one of the greatest receivers any of us have ever seen. And that is not an overstatement. The only the only receivers I'm. I'm going to try to do this off the top of my head, but I want to just pull up like all time receiving touchdowns just to make sure I'm not forgetting anybody, you know, obvious. I'm trying to think the only receivers that without a shadow of a doubt, you know, I feel I'd rather have than Tyreek Moss, Jerry Rice are. You know what? That's the list for me. I'm not saying he's the third greatest receiver ever and in fact he definitionally isn't. You know, because at this, you know, didn't play long enough and all, you know, all of that. But as far as guys that hands down were better than him, the only guys that I can say were hands down better than Tyreek for me are Moss and Jerry Rice. Now Megatron to those guys you can obviously make a very strong case were better than him. I don't know if I agree with that case. I. Tyreek was such a dynamic, indefensible weapon that I just. If you want, if you believe he's one of the five greatest receivers of all time, I think that's a legitimate opinion. Didn't have one. If it is over for him. And again I it's crazy we're talking about this, but you have it's on the board. It's over. Obviously didn't have one of the five greatest careers of all time. Like my old co host my pal Chris Carter had a better career than Tyreek. Marvin Harrison and Larry Fitzgerald had better careers than Tyreek. But as far as guys who I would rather have, I think it's Moss Rice to's tough. TTO was as great as to was his peak was not Tyreek's peak. This guy is a five time first team all pro and is receiving yards after his rookie year ago. 1200, 1500, 800. He's injured. 1200, 1200. And then leaves Kansas City and goes 1700, 1800. And in the playoffs he was. I mean he averaged, averaged 80 yards per game in the postseason with seven postseason touchdowns, eight postseason touchdowns. I.
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Damanze
E. Jones.
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Nick Wright
No seven postseason touchdowns.
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Damanze
What's up D. Jones in the chat says is Tyreek a Hall of Famer if he never comes back.
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Nick Wright
Oh, first ballot. It's not even. That's. That's like. That's not debatable. I mean being a five time first team all pro is bananas. Being a guy who is how many? One, two, three, four, eight time Pro Bowler in what five. This is his 10th year. And so this year if it gets wiped out. He will have played nine years and was a first team all pro five of them and his average for his career, his average season was 1300 yards and 10 touchdowns. I mean he's just one of the greatest players I've ever seen. So that's my. I hope it's not over for him, but man, it is. It's certainly on the board that it's over for him. Crazy. So thinking about upgrading to the all new iPhone 17 Pro designed to be the most powerful iPhone ever. But you're also. Are you also thinking about the traffic on your way to the store or that headache of transferring all your data? Well, good news. When you order a new phone online with Boost Mobile, they'll send an expert to your home or work to deliver your brand new iPhone 17 Pro and get you all set up on Boost Mobile within minutes. No hassle. Visit Boost mobile.com to get started. Delivery available for select devices purchased@boost mobile.com Terms do apply. All right, De Monte, let's get to these the other games quickly here.
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Damanze
Seahawks defeat the Cardinals 23 to 20.
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Nick Wright
Yeah, it was Thursday night. Listen, the Seahawks got to be taken seriously. The defense playing really well. Mike McDonald's got that team going in the right direction and Darnold's been way better than I expected. Like I, I gotta be hand up and be like I might have been wrong about this. I killed the Seahawks for what I thought was getting worse at quarterback going from Gino to Darnold. That has not been a downgrade at this point. It's been an upgrade right now. So credit where it's due. Seahawks Seahawks have to be taken seriously.
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Damanze
Next Dublin game. Steelers Defeat the Vikings 24 to 21.
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Nick Wright
Hand up on this one too. I, I did not think the Steelers be able to keep Rogers upright. Instead he threw every pass within us well and he just got rid of it so fast and he was super efficient. He was like 18 of 22 for 200 yards. And Carson Wentz was just awful. That was a. They, they. They almost found a way to blow it at the end or at least have me closer than they should have. The Steelers. That's a great win for them.
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Damanze
Next the Giants Defeat the Chargers 21 18. Upset of the week, huh?
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Nick Wright
Upset of the week. And Amari and Hampton had 12 carries for 130 yards in a game that was close against a rookie quarterback when you couldn't block well for them to not let Hampton. They called 45 drop backs and 12 runs. It was the Chargers did it was Crazy and Joe Alt got hurt in that game which is really concerning for them. That was a brutal, brutal game for the Chargers. What do you want?
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Damanze
You think they would have won the game with Russell Wilson.
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Nick Wright
The Giants? No. Yeah I think Dart, I think Dart was an upgrade for them. Even though he didn't like play great he was an upgrade for them and gave him an energy boost. And the obviously other story sadly is Malik Neighbors done for the year with an ACL Beck Odell Beckham said it was the Giants turf.
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Damanze
Next Bills to be the Saints 31.
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Nick Wright
To 19 not an impressive game from Buffalo. The Saints down five in the fourth quarter throw a touchdown pass to take a fourth quarter lead. The pass gets overturned on review and they were the catch does and they were right. They end up kicking a field goal. Josh has a great scramble on third and five to basically ice the game. But that was a two point game in the fourth quarter and it could have been Saints lead in the fourth quarter. The Bills oddly have not looked great the last couple of weeks. The Dolphins game was not that impressive. The Saints game was not impressive. Now luckily for them they've gone Ravens and then Jets, Dolphins, Saints and so the schedule's allowed for but that defense has to get better flatly they score 30 every week the defense has to get better.
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Damanze
Next Falcons to be the commanders 34:27.
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Nick Wright
Listen not much takeaway in the commander's side because no Jaden Daniels but for the Falcons it's a nice bounce back game by Pennix and he needed it after that horrible horrible loss 30 to nothing to the Panthers. That was a really nice bounce back game by Penix.
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Damanze
Next Texans defeat the Titans 26 to 0. I took the Titans plus the points.
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Nick Wright
We can't yeah I'm not can no longer Brian Callahan's a can't bet under any circumstances. Now it should be said if you didn't watch this game good for you. But also it was 6 nothing in the fourth quarter. The Texans offense was struggling mightily and then in the fourth quarter finally got clicking. Now maybe that's a sign of things to come. Maybe it's the Titans were you know kind of gave up but that was an ugly game and I got to think Brian Callahan's days are numbered at this point. That Titans team looks like far and away the worst team in the league again.
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Damanze
Next Patriots Defeat the Panthers 42 to 13.
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Nick Wright
Drake May's playing ball. You know he they they the Patriots played well against Pittsburgh moving the ball but they turned it over five times. They clean that up in this game and they annihilate the Panthers. And speaking of days being numbered, Bryce. Bryce is. Bryce is in trouble, buddy. He had that nice little stretch at the end of last year, but Bryce has been brutal. Patriots. Huge game for the Patriots, Patriots, Bills. And by the way, for the Patriots, if they can somehow upset the Bills and get to three and two, their next three games to Monze. Saints, Titans, Browns, Saints, Titans, Browns in a row. It's unbelievable. The Patriots have games left. Saints, Titans, Browns. Two games against the jets. Another game against the Dolphins, the Bengals and the Giants. What a schedule for the New England. It's unbelievable.
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Damanze
Next, watch out. Lions defeat the Browns 34 to 10.
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Nick Wright
Flacco's got to be done. I mean the defense can only do so much. They gotta. This is going just according to plan for Shador. Actually. Yeah, because Flacco's been awful. If you the idea being Flacco gets benched early enough that there's time for Gabriel to go in and then he gets benched and then Shador gets the end of the season. I think that's how this plays out.
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Damanze
Next Rams defeat the Colts 27 to 20.
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Nick Wright
Listen, story of this game is AD Mitchell. Yeah, AD Mitchell making an unbelievable catch and run after. And then just the ball slipping out of his hands. When he wasn't setting it down but he was trying to extend it slips out of his hands and then he also had a hold flag on a Jonathan Taylor touchdown. Or else this is different. A great Matt Stafford game. Great Matt Stafford game. And Tutu Atwell with the game winner. That's a great win for the Rams.
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Damanze
Next Bears Defeat the Raiders 25 24.
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Nick Wright
Listen, Gino's been brutal. Ashton Genty though, looked like Ashton Genty for the first time since Boise State. Got back to his little upright pre snap style and looked like his old self. The Bears feel like, all right, we got to two and two. We have the buy. Everything's settled. Yeah, great win. And then last night, the one game we didn't talk about. Broncos Defeat the Bengals 28 3. Ugly. The Bengals are in real, real trouble. Chase is frustrated and credit where it's due after a very shaky open in the game. Bo Nix made a great throw right before halftime that essentially ended the game. Aikman and Buck had no interest in that game at all. And the Broncos get to two, two and steady themselves. And the question for the Bengals is are they going to call about Kirk Cousins or Russell Wilson or are they going to ride with Browning? And so we'll See, and the other Monday night game, we talked about it, I guess a little bit. Tyreek injury. The Dolphins beat the Jets. Justin Fields had one sick play, but the jets don't know how.
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Damanze
I had a crazy bet on that game last night. I can't believe I'm bringing it up, but I had, I had the over three and a half on the punts and under on two is yardage. And then I had Justin Fields for a touchdown pass, which he did not throw until the end of the game. And then the Dolphins couldn't pick up like 15 yards. Ended up having to punt it at the end to give it to the jets there.
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Nick Wright
Oh, so you know what? I'm. It's a crazy bet that you would have won but didn't.
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Damanze
No, I won it because the. The Miami couldn't pick up 10 yards after they got the ball back on the last possession. And it was the last stat was.
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Nick Wright
Over three and a half punts. Oh, you had over punts?
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Damanze
Yeah, I had the overall three and a half.
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Nick Wright
It was on this. This is a great example as to why NFL ratings are so high. Because we got doofuses like my son betting over three and a half punts. So he's locked into one of the worst football games of the year. I mean, it's just. It's just unbelievable. All right, save our listener questions for Tuesday. Apologies, but if you put them in the show, listen on Tuesday, we'll get to some of them then. Thank you. Oh, by the way, shout out to our great sponsors, Hard Rock, Bet Boost Mobile, Chad Bowers, and Hulu. Our friends at Zen Like Rate, subscribe, Review. Thank you to Volume. Thank you to Blue Duck. I got to go do Colin Coward and make fun of his Chargers. See you guys later. What's right.
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Nick Wright
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Damanze
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