What's Wright - NFL Week 9 Reaction: Bills beat Chiefs, Cowboys CRUSHED vs. Cardinals + trade deadline | Nick Wright

Summary

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The Herd with Colin Cowherd: "What's Wright – NFL Week 9 Reaction" (Nov 5, 2025)

Episode Focus:
This episode, guest-hosted by Bill and his co-host Damanze, dives deep into the key takeaways from NFL Week 9, with special attention on the Buffalo Bills' victory over the Kansas City Chiefs, the Dallas Cowboys’ devastating loss to the Cardinals, and major storylines and surprises across the league at the midseason mark. There’s also a dose of MLB World Series emotion, NBA talk (especially on Bronny James), and a series of rapid-fire reactions to the most notable games and moments of the week.

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Main Topics & Structure

1. World Series Recap: Dodgers defeat Blue Jays

• [07:32–14:14]
  • Bill mourns the Blue Jays’ “all-time gutting” loss in Game 7, marveling at the heartbreak in a series loaded with missed opportunities for Toronto.
  • Quote:
    "That is as haunting of a series loss as I think you will ever see in sports... That is as gutting a championship series loss as you will ever see." (Bill, 12:25)
  • Blue Jays' odds for next season are given context (15:01).
  • Remark on huge television audience: "26 million people watched Game 7, Dodgers-Blue Jays in America. More than 50% higher than the NBA Finals!" (15:09)
  • Bill praises the excitement and quality of the MLB playoffs this year.

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2. NFL Week 9 Main Event: Bills Beat Chiefs

• [20:11–28:36]

A. Chiefs' Struggles and Bills' Performance

• Bills credited with an “outstanding defensive performance,” stifling Patrick Mahomes to his worst completion percentage ever.
• Josh Allen “played great,” and the run game was effective.
• Bill's View:
  "Not only did they keep up with Kansas City, they dominated most of that game. And Josh played great and Patrick played really shaky." (Bill, 20:44)

B. Playoff Implications (Chiefs' Path Forward)

• Bill does not panic about the Chiefs’ season or playoff chances:
  • "This does not change my opinion 1% about what a Chiefs-Bills playoff game could look like... The playoffs don’t start today. They have eight more games to play." (Bill, 22:37)
• Discussion of how missing key starters (offensive line, running back Isaiah Pacheco) played a role, forecasting healthier playoff rematches.
• Chiefs’ schedule softens up in the 2nd half (“quarterbacks they face soften up” [27:28])
• Chiefs projected to finish 12–5 and still win the division.

C. Big Picture AFC Playoff Conversation

• "I don't really know... doesn't seem like there's going to be any soft spots in the AFC playoffs." (24:28)
• Chiefs “still the Super Bowl favorites” for Vegas; AFC playoff seeding will be a dogfight.

D. Notable Sideline Animations

• Mahomes’ sideline “antics” compared to Josh Allen’s flopping to draw penalties.
  • "The best flopper in the league for five years has been Josh. It’s not even close." (Bill, 30:19)
  • Suggestion: Whiplash head motions = mandatory concussion tent check. (30:27–31:24)

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3. Cowboys COLLAPSE vs Cardinals & NFL Trade Deadline

• [37:32–41:44]

A. Cowboys’ Season Devolves

• “Cowboys are done. They have had plenty of opportunities to not be done... after the Raiders game in two weeks...Eagles, Chiefs, Lions. They’re finished.”
• Recent trade (for LB Logan Wilson) highlighted not as hope, but as a signal of futility.
• Bill: “They should be sellers, not buyers.” (37:49)

B. Cardinals’ QB Room Future

• Jacoby Brissett outperforms Kyler Murray; Murray's Arizona future questioned.
• “Kyler’s not going to be on the Cardinals next year."
• Potential landing spots for Murray: Jets, Steelers, Browns, Raiders.

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4. Bronny James/NBA Update & Media Critique

• [41:54–48:02]

• Bill calls out earlier media overreaction about nepotism and Bronny’s selection by the Lakers.

• "Bronny James has been a slightly above average late second round pick. The folks that used him as a cudgel because they hate LeBron should be embarrassed." (Bill, 47:03)

• Notes Bronny’s positive, if quiet, contributions in crunch time with the Lakers.

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5. NFL Week 9 Surprises & Developments

• [48:40–53:11]

A. Colts vs Steelers

• Water “finding its level” for both teams: Colts offense coming back to earth, Steelers defense regressing back up toward expectations.

B. Packers Lose to Panthers

• Ominous stat: Only 4 wins, with 5 losses and a tie, as a touchdown-plus favorite in last 10—team tends to overlook weak opponents (52:34).

C. Playoff Picture

• NFC playoff chase is fierce: “Somebody’s going to be left without a chair.”

D. Notable Injuries

• Losses: Joe Alt (Chargers), Tucker Kraft (Packers) called "massive injuries."

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6. Midseason Recap / Biggest Surprises and Misses

• [60:04–66:54]

• Colts top Bill’s list as his most major preseason miss:
  "The Colts would be the biggest one. I said I thought they could get the number one pick. Instead, you know, right now they're the number one seed." (Bill, 60:22)

• Cincinnati’s defense is “dreadful”—their problems run deeper than just Burrow’s injury.

• Other personal preseason corrections:

  • “I did not see this season from hell potential for Baltimore, and I didn’t see Pittsburgh’s weak link being its defense.”
  • On Rams and Bucs: “I think I had a Bucs-Rams NFC Championship Game, and I feel good about that right now. But the Rams are a little better than I thought they would be.” (62:36)
  • Matt Stafford is Bill’s “league MVP” at this moment [62:54].

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7. Seasons from Hell: Ranking the NFL’s Disaster Teams

• [63:08–66:54]
• Top disaster: Washington Commanders—piled resources in and lost Jaden Daniels to a devastating injury.
  "If you're a Washington fan, deep down, you're like, man, is this guy just going to be an injury concern his whole career?" (Bill, 64:19)
• Cincinnati comes second: not “one offseason” away from contending; their defense needs a complete overhaul.

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8. Category Four: “Right, But Don’t Want to Be Right”

• [67:42–68:25]
  • New show inside joke, courtesy of Damanze: Predictions you’re right about, but take no pleasure in.

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9. Quick Hitters: Game-by-Game Lightning Reactions

• [68:29–74:45]
  • Ravens 28, Dolphins 6: Lamar “was awesome again,” but Dolphins squandered chances.
  • 49ers 34, Giants 24: “Kyle Shanahan’s masterpiece. Even I didn’t think he could get this out of Mac Jones.”
  • Chargers 27, Titans 20: WR Joe Walt’s injury “devastating”; playoff spot may come down to Herbert vs. The Prince.
  • Vikings 27, Lions 24: “Shocker”; Flores “made Goff look uncomfortable”; not panicking about Lions.
  • Patriots 24, Falcons 23: “Patriots are legit. Good team. They’ve now won six in a row.”
  • Broncos 18, Texans 15: Broncos D “awesome”; Texans “on life support.”
  • Bears 47, Bengals 42: Caleb Williams “was awesome”; Bears “huge win.”
  • Rams 34, Saints 10: “Rams annihilated the Saints”; limited viewing due to focusing on Chiefs-Bills.
  • Seahawks 38, Commanders 14: “Seahawks are a legit good to really good team. Darnold’s been awesome. JSN fantastic.”

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Listener Q&A Highlights

• [74:45–77:13]

• Heartfelt thank-yous from international listeners.

• On Joe Flacco's play and Joe Burrow ratings:
  "When you see Joe Flacco fresh out the nursing home start throwing for 322 and 2 TDs a game, it at least gives you a little pause about are we giving Joe Cool just a touch too much credit?"

• Positive surprise: The Panthers' 5–4 record and being in a divisional tie with the Chiefs.

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Memorable Quotes

• "The folks that used [Bronny James] as a cudgel because they hate LeBron should be embarrassed." (Bill, 47:03)
• "Chiefs are still Super Bowl favorites because they’re the best team." (Bill, 23:32)
• "Cowboys are done... after Raiders, Eagles, Chiefs, Lions—they’re finished." (39:19)
• "Kyler [Murray]'s not going to be on the Cardinals next year... he’s too small." (Bill, 40:39)
• "Category Four. Right, but I don’t want to be. And if I’m proven right, I can’t take a victory lap." (Bill, 68:13)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• World Series Gut Punch: 07:32–14:14
• Bills vs. Chiefs In-Depth: 20:11–28:36
• Cowboys Collapse/Trade Market: 37:32–41:44
• Bronny James Media Discourse: 41:54–48:02
• Colts-Steelers & Packers-Panthers: 48:40–53:11
• Midseason Surprises/Misses: 60:04–66:54
• Disaster Seasons Ranking: 63:08–66:54
• Quick Hitters: 68:29–74:45

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Final Thoughts

Dynamic and energetic, this week’s “What’s Wright” episode delivers a whirlwind of informed NFL debate, sneakily insightful stats, and a dash of humility about preseason takes gone awry. With a side of NBA and MLB emotion, Bill and Damanze keep the tone candid, conversational, and quick-hitting, loaded with memorable one-liners and breakdowns that make sense even for a non-watcher.

Perfect for: NFL fans looking for sharp, honest takes on Week 9’s chaos, plus bonus baseball heartbreak and a reality check for NBA hot takes—served up with humor and relatability.

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Welcome in while driving the great episode 387. This episode, as always, is presented to you by our friends at Boost Mobile. Daman's a huge show today. We're actually hitting three sports, obviously. Chiefs, Bills, Game of the weekend the midpoint of the NFL regular season was last night in a somewhat underwhelming Monday Night Football game. So we'll get to all of that. I There is something I need to say about this is kind of a Takes on Take segment, but it's also about Bronnie James and we're going to get to a little NBA later in the show and right near the top of the show we're going to do World Series stuff because I it'll be brief because I know people want to hear my potential pain about cheap spills, but I don't know how as a sports fan you get over that loss if you're the Blue Jays. So we will get to all of that over the next hour or so. How are you doing this morning?

[Damanze]

I'm doing pretty good, pops. How you doing?

[Bill]

I'm doing good. Excited for the show. Excited for I have a trick planned for first things first today that I don't want to reveal because I don't want anyone to spoil it. But there is I'm very excited for the TV show and well again we'll talk about what we we might revisit this on Thursday, but today the TV show hopefully always is pretty good. Today I have something special planned so I'm excited for that and excited to talk to you guys. By the way, reminder to everyone, please like rate, subscribe review to the pod to our channel. It really does help us out. It lets you know when we go live do three or four of these a week. Subscribe on YouTube, subscribe on iTunes, Spotify, all of that right now. Quickly straight to voicemail. Brought to you by our friends at Boost Mobile, the Dolphins part ways with general manager Chris Greer and that is likely going to be phase one of a three phase teardown. Chris Greer will be first. Mike McDaniel I know there is some reporting if you can call NFL insiders reporting these days. By the way, thank God Jaden Daniel who we saw his elbow go backwards. The insiders explained to us not as bad as it could have been. M Man that's so fortunate because so often those NFL insiders say to us holy that injury is way worse than we thought. Man oh man I mean, we are on a 700 injury streak in a row. Streak of, you know, what could have been worse. So that's good. Talk about Jaden. I feel sick for Jaden. And we'll get to that later because this is where I have to wear the black hat and have the unpopular take that everyone knows is correct, but we will wait on that. So how did I even get there? I don't even remember know how we got there. Oh, as I was saying, the insiders were saying Mike McDaniel's job might be safe. I would be shocked by that. So Chris Greer's part one, Mike McDaniel's part two, and then Tua, of course, is part three, Ja Back from his suspension. I.

[Damanze]

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[Bill]

He's gonna blow it. He's gonna blow the whole thing. And this is where I, once again, Damanz, present my mercurial, talented, but underachieving southeastern point guard three way trade where John Morant goes to Charlotte, Lamelo goes to Atlanta, and Trey Young goes to Memphis. I ask once again, who says no? Like, why is what. Can we please just say some new scenery.

[Damanze]

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[Bill]

Everybody needs some new scenery. A fair. Listen, Atlanta probably is like, we would rather have Ja than Trey or I'm sorry, rather have Ja than Lamelo. The problem is we're not fixing Jaw's problems by sending them from Memphis to Atlanta. I. I think the Appalachian Mountains in North Carolina could do him some good. And Cam Little hits a 68 yard field goal and his record barely stood for a day. And because Brandon Aubrey tried to beat it last night. All right, Damonte, before we get to Bill Chiefs and before we get to Bronnie and the rest of week nine, let's do a little World Series.

[Damanze]

So we obviously had a crazy weekend of NFL football, but the World Series came to a conclusion on Saturday. It was a crazy game seven. So let's talk about it.

[Bill]

Yeah. So listen, congrats to the Dodgers. Congrats to anyone who took my advice given on this pod and on TV that I did not take. And I am sick to my stomach on when I said before the World Series on this pod that Yamamoto at 32 to 1 to win MVP, I thought was decent. And then after Game 2, and then Thursday before Game 5 on this pot, I said, Yamamoto is still 16 to 1. I think that's a good MVP bet. And then I didn't make it. I can't believe it. And by the way, I needed some wins this Weekend because I fired on the Chiefs. More on that in a minute. But the. But so that was a disaster by me. Credit to Dave Roberts for great managing. Credit to the Dodgers for in game seven being like our weakness all year was the bullpen. So what if we have four guys pitch, but there are four starters that, that we just don't even have to worry about the bullpen. So the Dodgers are deserving champs. Do I think they were better in that series? I don't, but they're deserving champs. With that said, if you're the Blue Jays, I just don't know how you ever get over it. That is as haunting of a series loss as I think you will ever see in sports. And I understand the 2011 Rangers twice were one strike away from winning the World Series. I get that. This to me feels more cruel because if you're a Blue Jays fan who, by the way, right now, tell me in the dock on Hard Rock, bet where the Blue Jays are for World Series odds next season. I bet they're not in the top six. So it's not like, oh, we'll be right back there. And by the way, my team, the Royals, lost a seven game heartbreaker, wasn't expected to be back, and then came back the next year and won it. So maybe the Blue Jays can do the same. But when you go over that series, if you're a Blue Jays fan and you think back to all the moments you could have won the 18 inning game, so they're tied for the six best odds at 15, pardon me, 15 to 1. And the 18 inning game is not even one of the four or five biggest heartbreaks. You think to game six, when you have second and third, one out, down one, well, you think the fact that you were going home up three, two, and then in game six, bottom nine, second and third, one out. And it looks like you're going to get a little blooper to score at least one and have the tying run on third with one out. And then it's caught and you're doubled off. Then you think to game seven, you can get an insurance run in the eighth, man on second, nobody out, you stranded. You give up a home run two outs away from the World Series to a guy who has hit one home run and in the last six weeks. Then after all that, you have bases loaded, one out. Bases loaded, one out, a chopper to the same guy who ripped your heart out, by the way, before you. The one out is because it looked like Vlad Guerrero Jr hit a walk off home run to win the World Series. Warning track shot. And IKF either doesn't get a good enough secondary lead or it's just unlucky. Or he's just not quite fast enough or he doesn't slide right. Whatever it is, you're out at home by an inch. By one inch. But still that's just two outs. Then you hit a bomb to left center and the guy who was just put in for defense crashes into the center field left fielder and catches it. So you don't win there. And then in the 11th, you're down a run. Second and third. I'm sorry, first and third, one out and break your bat. Double play. I just. That is as gutting a championship series loss as you will ever see. People can say like I people compared it to the spurs and the Ray Allen game. I don't know. This was worse. The spurs were the under. Like the spurs in the Ray Allen game were trailing in the fourth quarter with two minutes left. The. And then had game seven. The Heat were not infirm. Control. But control. Like I don't. You can say the. The. If we. Again, if we want to switch it to basketball. The warriors up 3:1 in the Finals. But Games 5 and 6 of those Finals, they got blasted. The Blue Jays had so many chances to win a championship and didn't. I feel sick for him. I feel absolutely.

[Damanze]

You're saying like the Blue Jays thought up until the very last second that they were going to win those other teams.

[Bill]

Yes.

[Damanze]

It. It seemed like they were done a long time ago. So it was no reason to believe. I get it.

[Bill]

I up three two going home. Chance to steal game six up with two outs or with one out in the ninth inning. And then two great chances to walk it off in the bottom of the ninth and then a great chance to at least tie it, if not win it in the 11th. And you just get beat up.

[Damanze]

Hey, either way, it sounds like some exciting stuff. Should we start buying some stock in a baseball. Maybe talking more baseball next year?

[Bill]

I listen. I do love playoff baseball. And did you see the rating for it, Demon?

[Damanze]

I did not. What was it?

[Bill]

Okay, so I'm going to you're that this is. And then we'll get to Chiefs, bills, I promise. 16 million people watched Game 7 of the NBA Finals last year. Okay, Pacers, Thunder. 16 million people watched in America. How many people do you think watched Game 7, Dodgers, Blue Jays in America, we don't get to.

[Damanze]

I'll go 56.

[Bill]

You went. You said 56.

[Damanze]

56.

[Bill]

Okay, 26 so you, you're, you're bad at these games.

[Damanze]

I'm terrible because yo, I just, I don't ever have a good gauge.

[Bill]

But that, but yeah, but my point is the fact that it did more than 50% more than Game 7 of the NBA Finals.

[Damanze]

Like baseball is more America sports than basketball is though, right? Or is it just like different when it comes to the finals and World.

[Bill]

Series and it's kind of ebbed and flowed, but right now, like, baseball's hot right now. I sound like Trump. Sorry. But like the so. And I thought these playoffs were awesome. I thought these playoffs were really great. And Daniel says team market size. I get that. But we don't get credit for Canada. One of the baseball teams is in a market that doesn't count for the ratings. So, like, as small as Indianapolis and Oklahoma City are, they're both at least out here. Yeah. Yes, LA is bigger than OKC and in Indianapolis combined, but not, not enough to make up for that. The rating wasn't because of Los Angeles. Like it. That certainly helped. But no, that was a great. It's a great post season for baseball. All right, let's get to Bill's Chiefs and Doug. Here we have the Limu Emu in its natural habitat, helping people customize their.

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[Damanze]

All right, it's that time. So the Bills won their super bowl against your Kansas City Chiefs.

[Bill]

There you go.

[Damanze]

Kansas City is heads into the buy 5 and 4 as the 8 seed and the Bills are the favorite to win the one seed. How are you? How do you want to do this one? How are you feeling?

[Bill]

Well, listen, I mean.

[Damanze]

Well, they did get the first one. They got the first one. So now they'll get them in the postseason if the rules are.

[Bill]

I mean, that's, that's the way it goes. But I let me give Buffalo credit because I got. Listen, I picked the Chiefs. I bet the Chiefs. I did not think the Bills defense, even if the Chiefs had their typical regular season against Buffalo vanilla game plan, I did not think the Bills defense would be able to keep up with Kansas City. And not only they keep up with Kansas City, they dominated most of that game. And Josh played great and Patrick played really shaky. That was the first game in Patrick's entire career. He completed less than 50% of his passes. And they pressured the Chiefs at will. And the Bills were the far better team. It was a miracle. The Chiefs had multiple possessions down seven in the fourth quarter. And that last possession when McDermott chose to go for a field goal was coaching malpractice. You have to punt there. Like the going for that field goal and giving the Chiefs a short field when they're only going to have 23 or 22 seconds if you punt is just insanity. I couldn't believe he did it. But set that aside. Buffalo steadied themselves. Buffalo stayed very alive for their division as the Patriots have just a cake schedule moving forward. And Buffalo ran the ball great. Josh was awesome. And the defense, which was my concern with them, more than stepped up. So all of that is true. That can be true. While it's also true that this does not change my opinion 1% about what a Chiefs Bills playoff game could look like. And I thought the Bills young secondary players, Cole Bishop and Xavier Hairston, after the game talking about the tells they saw on tape was a big unforced error. Save that info. Kids like you're. You're probably going to have to play this team again. And so listen, Kansas City has its work cut out for him, but the whole if the playoffs started today thing is just meaningless to me. The playoffs don't start today. They have eight more games to play. If I now, did this hurt their chances of winning the division? Sure. Do I still, right now, would I still pick them to win the division? I would. And I think that the Chiefs are going to.

[Damanze]

Vegas still has them as the super bowl favorites. So.

[Bill]

Yeah, because they're the best team. I mean, and I'm curious if they're going to add a running back or a defensive lineman or both or neither at the deadline. But they added yesterday the most important piece they could add, which is Josh Simmons came back. So Josh Simmons is back. And again, no, no, I'm not making any excuses. The Bills dominated the Chiefs. Okay. But as far as why it could be different in the playoffs. The Chiefs by the second half of that game were without three of their five starting offensive linemen and without Isaiah Pacheco, their starting running back, all of whom you expect to be back for the playoffs. Now you can say, well, the Bills without At Oliver, but at Oliver should be out. Go ahead. What were you saying?

[Damanze]

I was about to say Isaiah Pacheco coming back. I don't know what that's going to do for us, but.

[Bill]

Well, it's better than Clyde. I mean it's better than. And so. And again, maybe they trade for Breeze hall today. Yeah, we'll see. But the. The one seed is going to be. So the real damage that was done is if they had a shot at the one seed that dwindled massively yesterday, I think the Pats might end up the one seed. Like we'll see. But as far as you want to win the division, you want to have home playoff games, I'm not ignoring any of that. With that piece of it said, I don't really know. Like, it doesn't seem like there's going to be any soft spots in the AFC playoffs. Like if the AFC playoffs are in one order or another. Bills, Patriots, AFC north winner. So that's either Steelers or Ravens, Colts, Chiefs, Broncos, Chargers, which are the odd. Like that would be the Jags out Chargers in the. I don't even know who you would say, oh, I hope to get to play that team in round one. And so I just. Obviously you wouldn't want to play if you're. The Bills are the Chiefs biggest threat. There's no doubt about that. They have been year after year. They just can't beat them when it matters the most. And I've been on the record that one day I think they will. I just don't think that day is today.

[Damanze]

Do you like the timing of the buy? I think the buy kind of came at a rough spot.

[Bill]

No, I like it. I actually like that the, the.

[Damanze]

Oh. It's also probably good for Josh Simmons too. He's been out for so long. Correct the week.

[Bill]

It's very good for Josh Simmons. But here's the other thing because. And this is where I'm just going to look at it a little differently than most because people are going to talk about the Chiefs second half of the season schedule and talk about the records of the teams they face. So let me see what the. And we can. The. I. I know we can throw up the schedule, but I want to do something. I'm doing something a little different, which is strength of schedule, more strength of remaining strength of schedule. So the Chiefs right now are dead average. They're 15th as far as remaining strength of schedule. That's not what I'm focused on. What I'm focused on is this the first half of the season. The Chiefs played the following quarterbacks Justin Herbert, Jalen Hurts, Lamar Jackson, Jared Goff, the Prince, Josh Allen along with Russ Jackson Dart, Gino. No, they didn't play Jackson Dart. They played Russ in his last game.

[Damanze]

Oh yeah.

[Bill]

Russell Wilson, Gino and Mariota. So they played six of the best quarterbacks in football the rest of the year. The quarterbacks they face are Bo Nicks twice, Daniel Jones, Cam Ward, Geno again and then Dak, who's really good but that defense is abhorrent. CJ Stroud who is fine but that offense is abhorrent and Justin Herbert again. So the quarterbacks, they play soften up enough right now and I said it on the show yesterday, I'll say it again. I think they're going to go 12 and 5. I think they sweep the Broncos. I think they get the win against the Chargers, I think they have one loss, I don't know what it is and they end up winning the division. We'll see if I'm right about that. But that's why I'm not panicked and I think Hard Rock bet in Vegas is smart to not be panicked as either and go ahead pal.

[Damanze]

Casey hasn't won a game when they're, when they allow 21 plus points. Is that something or nothing?

[Bill]

So that's, I put that in the nothing bucket along with the their own 4 and 1 score games stat. I put that in the nothing bucket because would people feel better if they hadn't blown out the Lions and Ravens if they had just won those like if they, if the Lions and Ravens wins were closer then they'd be 2 and 4 like so I don't really care about that piece of it. And I the, the, the Chiefs have had, you know, some really good games and some ugly games. I the Jags game is the game that if they don't win the division, if they do get a rough seed, you're going to look back on and say we blew it. We were up double digits early. You had control of that game. The Mahomes like that's the game and we'll see how they respond to it. But I still think that I think post buy they're going to have the best offense in football and I'm still not scared of Denver. Maybe that'll be my famous last words. But I watch Denver every single week and Bo Nix is a gamer and he is, he has been clutch. But man, that offense is so bad for the first three quarters week in, week out.

[Damanze]

Yeah. So everybody, go ahead. Everybody's always cooking Patrick Mahomes about his sideline theatrics and his slide and stuff.

[Bill]

Josh Flopper in the league for five years has been Josh. It's not even close.

[Damanze]

He did like an NBA head back.

[Bill]

Yes. And, and we want to talk about rule changes. Here is a rule that I think could be implemented and have instant effect. If you make that whiplash motion with your head, it automatically triggers that you have to be checked for a concussion because. Yeah, that, that the soul like fair is fair. If you're going to try to take advantage of the fact that the NFL has put a real emphasis on protecting you.

[Damanze]

Right.

[Bill]

On protecting you and, and concussion protocol and try to get a cheap 15 yards like that one, the one from Josh this weekend was egregious. Yeah, it was egregious.

[Damanze]

It's like sportsmanlike.

[Bill]

The. Right. So the, the, the, the tax on that is. All right. Go in that blue tent, miss a few plays and your answer to the, you know, unaffiliated nor neurological consultant who I think the name is. No, I was just faking. Then so be it. But the, the. You gotta own that. You gotta own it. All right, we'll get to Monday Night Football in a second. But a reminder, today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor, Hard Rock Bet. Great week to try out the Hard Rock Bet sportsbook app because there's so much going on. Not just week 10 in football, NBA, college football, college hoops, all share the stage. Always something to bet on. If you haven't tried your first bet on Hard Rock Bet yet, there's still time for you to get $150 in bonus bets. If you win, just place a $5 bet. And if it hits, you get not only your winnings, but $150 in extra bonus bets. And if you're looking for an edge before you lock in, check out the Hard Rock Bet stats hub. It's loaded with trend streaks and stats to help guide your picks. Numbers don't lie and neither does the data in there. Here's some that stood out to me. Josh Jacobs scored a touchdown. In 13 straight games against NFC opponents. Detroit has won as a favorite following a straight up loss 12 times in a row. That's pretty good. Check out the stats up now get the edge and bet with confidence. Hard Rock Bets Sportsbook Apps the only legal sportsbook for whenever you're in Florida and it's also live in Arizona, Ohio, New Jersey, Indiana, Tennessee, Virginia, Illinois and Colorado. Coming soon to more states. Plus, Hard Rock Bet offers new promos every day, so wherever you're listening, just open the app and check out what they've got. Any day of the week, download the Hard Rock Bet app and make your first deposit payable and bonus bets. Not a cash offer offered by the Seminole Tribe of Florida in Florida. Offered by Seminole hard Rock Digital LLC in all other states. Must be 21 plus and physically present in Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee or Virginia. To play. Terms and conditions apply. Concerned about gambling in Florida? Call-888- admit it in Indiana. If you or someone you know has a gambling problem and wants help, call 1-809 with it gambling problem call 1-800- gambler in Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee or Virginia. Every now and then I rinse it out and I need Tommy rinse tonight and I need it more. My gift wears the bed and the smell never leaves I don't know what to do I'm always in the dark the sweating that you smells like a dark.

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[Bill]

Daddy's Looking Good.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

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[Damanze]

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[Bill]

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[Ben Westoff]

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[Kyle McLaughlin]

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[Bill]

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[Ben Westoff]

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[Kyle McLaughlin]

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[Ben Westoff]

Whenever I got through the window I.

[Bill]

Tried to pick him up and his.

[Ben Westoff]

Body was stiff I'm Ben Westoff, and this the Peacemaker, a true crime podcast investigating a string of mysterious deaths at a prestigious Missouri university and the fraternity brother at the center of it all. A few years back, two fraternity brothers died by suicide just weeks apart in shockingly similar ways. Both were discovered by the same student, Brandon Grossheim.

[Bill]

I laid him down and I how could you see that? He tilted his head back and proceeded to get mouth to mouth in cpr.

[Ben Westoff]

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[Bill]

The lawsuit says Grosseim was one of the last people to see each victim before their deaths.

[Ben Westoff]

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[Damanze]

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[Good Stuff Podcast Host]

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[Damanze]

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[Good Stuff Podcast Host]

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[Damanze]

Had over 50 operations and had 23 blood transfusions.

[Veteran/VA System Advocate]

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[Good Stuff Podcast Host]

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[Veteran/VA System Advocate]

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[Damanze]

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[Good Stuff Podcast Host]

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[Bill]

All right, before we get to Bronnie and the rest of week nine, let's get to last night's game.

[Damanze]

All right, so the Cowboys got humiliated last night. Arizona is just taking the ball from a Matt Will. So we know Dallas's defense is garbage and the trade deadline is ending here pretty soon. What do you think? What move should they make? What should. What should they should be?

[Bill]

Sellers, not buyers. And did you see the trade they already. They made last night? This morning, they traded. Hold on. I'm going to tell you. They traded for Logan Wilson, who has been. He's a linebacker who has been benched by the Bengals defense. The Bengals are in team mutiny right now because the defense is so bad. The Al Bolton Bengals D coordinator is like, no. Even though Logan Wilson, you're a team captain. We. We can't use you. Even though we're the worst defense in the league. And they traded a seventh round pick for him. It is. The Cowboys are done. They're done. They. They have had plenty of opportunities to not be done and they're you. They're now 3, 5 and 1. They. They were favorites last night. They. The Cardinals dominate them even though they get a blocked punt, touchdown. They lost all. They lost to the Panthers. The. They. They could have stolen that packers game. They had plenty of opportunities to not be done. But now after the Raiders game in two weeks, Daman say they go Eagles, Chiefs, Lions. They're finished.

[Damanze]

Yeah.

[Bill]

So I'm done thinking about the Cowboys as even a frisky spoiler like they listen. They're dangerous week to week because the offense can be that good. But they're done. Now the more interesting thing from that game is once again Arizona's offense is better with Jacoby Brissette than with Kyler Murray. Now the head coach, Jonathan Gannon says Kyler is going to be back when he's healthy. I don't know, man. Kyler seemed healthy. People thought he was healthy yesterday. They didn't play him and the offense hummed. The question is who does Kyler play for next year? Potential teams, the jets, the Steelers, if Rogers retires, the Browns. There was one other team that I had on my list. I'm trying to remember who was the.

[Damanze]

Other team that I thought we got bucking off. Oh, maybe Miami.

[Bill]

I don't think the Dolphins can deal with two as cap hit and kite trading for Kyler. There was one other team that I had on my list yesterday. Oh, in the Raiders?

[Damanze]

Yeah. I didn't think you would buck Geno. I didn't think.

[Bill]

I thought the Raiders might do a full tear down.

[Damanze]

Okay.

[Bill]

But Kyler's not going to be on the Cardinals next year. If Kyler is going to be available next year. Listen, Classic one or classic two, I guess eventually. Right. Kyler is too small. And when the. The. One of the reasons the offense works better with Jacoby is because they want to be able to hit routes over the middle of the field and Kyler cannot see him. Sorry. Pro sports doesn't have to be fair. It is what it is, too small. And I also, you know, I, I don't know that he is beloved in that locker room. I think it's fair to say. And so his time with the Cardinals is coming to an end. They, I think they should just accept it and keep playing Jacoby because he get a better chance to win. All right, let's get to the other story of the day that I wanted to talk about.

[Damanze]

Yeah. So we just wrapped up the first half of the NFL season with Sunday. So this is a perfect time to talk about Bronnie James. Let's do it.

[Bill]

So here's the deal. And this is a little about Bronnie and this is more about media criticism. But a little over, a little less than a year ago, we were in full blown Bronnie James meltdown in the media about the scourges of nepotism and LeBron forcing the Lakers into such a mistake and pleading with LeBron as a father to stop this farce. And folks claiming that their heart just goes out to the other potential draftees who got snubbed because the Lakers wasted the 55th pick on Bronnie. And now the last two games, the Lakers, who are super shorthanded. Sunday night, we're in a tight game with Miami, played Bronnie and crunch time, he played really good defense, had one awesome driving kick for a critical three and they won 18 minutes solid. You know, end of the bench performance. And then yesterday in a game where LeBron was out, Luca was out and Austin Reeves was out, they called on Bronnie again against the Blazers when the Blazers were double digit favorites and Bronnie played 19 minutes, had six assists, had no turnovers, and the Lakers won again. Now, do I think Bronnie is a great player? Obviously not. Do I think Bronnie is even going to be a rotation guy this year for the Lakers when they're healthy? No. Do I think if we are going to be fair and we are going to look at this objectively, we should say, hey, how does his production up to this point in the season compare to the other guys drafted in the second half of the first round? I think that's fair. So if you go picks 45 through, I think there were only 58 in that draft. Oddly, instead of 60 and you're like, oh, so of those 14 guys, seven of them are not on an NBA roster. So, you know, he certainly is providing more value than those seven. Of those 14 guys, only Quentin Post, Jamal Shed and Cam Spencer have played more minutes. Okay. Of those 14 guys, only Jamal Shed and Cam Spencer have more assists. Of those 14 guys, only Cam Spencer has more steals of those. Now, Bronnie is his field goal percentage like 20%. He hasn't shot much, but I Think he's, you know, he, I think he's one for. I think he's two for 11 on the season. So obviously he's not, he's not shooting the ball well. He's not shooting the ball much. But you look at that draft and all the crying that was done. Pick 47 has not played, is not on a roster. Pick 48 has played 11 minutes. Pick 49, pick 50, pick 51 has not played or on G League teams. Pick 52, Quentin Post, has actually been solid for the Warriors. And pick 53, Cam Spencer's been solid for the Grizzlies. Pick 54, not on a roster. Pick 55, Bronnie. Pick 56, pick 57, G League or not on a roster. And pick 58, Huck Porty. Apologies. Has played 40 minutes for the Knicks and has been given, you know, slightly less production than Bronnie right in line with it. Whole point is Bronnie James has been a slightly above average late second round pick. That's what he's been as a pro, a slightly above average late second round pick. That's it. And the folks that used him as a cudgel because they hate LeBron should be embarrassed. That's the Bronny James update. Good for him for being pressed into service for all of a sudden a frisky Lakers team that got a win as a double digit underdog without its three best players. And good for him for playing his first ever crunch time NBA minutes the night before and just looking the part of, oh yeah, that looks like the 11th best guy on an NBA team. That's what he looks like.

[Damanze]

Happy young man.

[Bill]

Yeah, I'm happy for him. And so it was, it was, I thought, embarrassing some of the coverage last season when he had that bad five minute stretch. I forget even who it was against. And I'm glad that he didn't let that throw him. And so good for him. All right, now we can get to the other NFL games.

[Damanze]

So yeah, surprising games are one of the more surprising things over the weekend. The Colts offense has looked pretty good, has been humming all season. Pittsburgh defense has not looked good and has been allowing anything to happen on the football field. Do you think that this game was. Well, obviously the Pittsburgh Steelers beat the Colts as well. Do you think that this is their identity or was this like more of a fluke situation in this game?

[Bill]

A little bit of fluke for both. But also the Steelers defense had no business being a bottom three defense. It was going to be better than that. And the Colts offense Had no business being not only the best offense in football, but one of the best offenses in NFL history. So that all of that water was going to find its level to a degree. And Jonathan Taylor's awesome. Shane Steichen is a very good play designer. And you know, you can give credit to the Colts while also recognizing that what they were doing was not going to be sustained. And listen, they get, they have the Falcons in Germany or something. Yeah, I think it's Germany Sunday morning. Then they get a buy and then it's the Chiefs. And that will be obviously the litmus test. They're going to be a playoff team. They're. They're a good story. But I am not going to apologize for my lack of cults belief. And my take all last week was the. Everyone seems fine with the media mostly ignoring the Seahawks when the sea. Because the Seahawks have two losses. But then everyone wants to get on their high horse and be like, the media has an obligation to take the cult seriously because the Colts had one loss and I'm like, no, we don't. And now the Colts, the culture, one of many, two lost teams. They are a cool story in a bad division with a fun, you know, resurgent quarterback who deep down, you know that five turnover game didn't shock you. And we'll see.

[Damanze]

Yeah, I was about to say, what if the Colts go in there and beat Kansas City? Like there's.

[Bill]

That'll be something. That, that will be something because the Chiefs need the games now. So go beat Kansas City and you'll have my attention. But I'll tell you what I think is more likely. So the culture, seven and two. I would anticipate they'll beat the Falcons, then off the by lose the Chiefs fall to eight and three and then they go Texans, Jags, Seahawks, Niners, Jags, Texans. So how many games is that? Seven games. Could the Colts go three and four starting with the Chiefs game? Absolutely they could. I would expect them to lose in Kansas City, in Seattle, and then even if you win three out of four against Houston and Jacksonville, if the Niners beat you, you're three and four. So it's a good story. It's not, it's. It's not more than that.

[Damanze]

All right, next, the packers, another surprise of the weekend, lost to the Panthers. They were huge favorites in that game. What's going on with Green Bay? Was this a trap? We know they got Philly ahead or Green Bay just not as good as everybody thought they were.

[Bill]

Yeah, I mean, maybe. Maybe a little everything Mangini had a crazy stat which is called it going.

[Damanze]

Yeah, he called the upset but going.

[Bill]

Going into that game. The packers last 10 games as touchdown or more favorites they had only won not covered. They had only won four of them that they had. They had five losses in a tie in their last 10 as touchdown plus favorite. That's a team that does overlook teams and Carolina and Carolina's 5 and 4 like Carolina's. I don't know how Carolina is is in it.

[Damanze]

And.

[Bill]

It'S also why Jordan Love is just hard to fully trust. His upsides huge but it's hard to fully trust every once.

[Damanze]

He does crazy stuff.

[Bill]

Yeah, he does crazy, crazy stuff. I also think this weekend we had two massive injuries in the NFL. Joe Al for the Chargers and Tucker Craft for the Packers. Like those are, those are really, really tough injuries and Love, he's been unbelievable. The packers demand say have one easy game left and it's on the road against the Giants. Every other game they play is either a divisional game or against Baltimore, Philly or Denver. That's a tough schedule, man. Every team they play are the Vikings at.500. Now I don't even remember. I think they are. The Vikings are 4 and 4 and the Bears are 5 and 3. So that means aside from the Giants game, they don't have a game left against a team with a losing record. Now maybe you could argue they take lightly the teams of the losing record. So it could be good. But I don't. I think the packers are going to be okay, but somebody is going to be left without a chair in that NFC playoff picture. Like that's the thing in the afc. If you don't believe in the Jags, it's very easy to know who's going to be in the playoffs. It's going to be three from the AFC west, one from the south, one from the north and two from the east. And you kind of know who those teams are with the north coming down to it. If you do believe in the Jags, then one of those AFC west teams going to be left without a chair. NFC is very different right now. The Bears are 5 and 3 and out of the playoffs the Lions are 5 and 3 and the 7 seed. So there's not a lot of margin for error. And if you're Green Bay and you're like we have two losses this season as double digit favorites, that's a rough one. And then a tie as a nine point favorite, that's no good. All right, so are you thinking about upgrading to the all new iPhone 17 Pro designing the most powerful iPhone ever. But you're also thinking about the traffic on your way to the store or the headache of transferring all your data. Good news, when you order a new phone online with Boost Mobile, they'll send an expert to your home or work to deliver your brand new iPhone 17 Pro and get you all set up on Boost Mobile within minutes. No hassle. Visit Boost mobile.com to get started. Delivery available for select devices. Purchase@boost mobile.com terms do apply.

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[Bill]

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It's accompanied by his natural ally, Doug. Uh, Limu is that guy with the binoculars watching us? Cut the camera.

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[Bill]

Daddy's looking good.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Each week I invite someone fascinating to join me. Actors, musicians, creatives, highly evolved digital life forms. And we talk about what they love. Sometimes I'll drizzle honey in there too.

[Damanze]

If I'm feeling sexy in the morning.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

What keeps them going?

[Bill]

And you're maybe my biggest competition on social media.

[Ben Westoff]

Like when a kid says bra to.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Me and how they're navigating this high speed roller coaster we call reality.

[Bill]

In Australia, you're looking out for snakes, spiders and boys, right? Hey, he's no Trey McDougal. Chill.

[Ben Westoff]

This is like the comments section of my Instagram.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

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[Ben Westoff]

Whenever I got through the window, I.

[Bill]

Tried to pick him up and his body was stiff.

[Ben Westoff]

I'm Ben Westoff and this is the Peacemaker, a true crime podcast investigating a string of mysterious deaths at a prestigious Missouri university. And the fraternity brother at the center of it all. A few years back, two fraternity brothers died by suicide just weeks apart. In shockingly similar ways. Both were discovered by the same student, Brandon Grossheim.

[Bill]

I laid him down and I tilted his head back and presented again mouth to mouth in cpr.

[Ben Westoff]

At first, people gave Brandon the benefit of the doubt. But when three more acquaintances died the following year, the tide turned.

[Bill]

The lawsuit says Grossheim was one of the last people to see see each victim before their deaths.

[Ben Westoff]

Was he profoundly unlucky, or was something much darker at play? Listen to the Peacemaker podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Damanze]

The one extremely fluid and common factor in emotion when it comes to war and battle is fear for both sides.

[Good Stuff Podcast Host]

Do you remember the fear of combat?

[Damanze]

100%, yeah.

[Good Stuff Podcast Host]

This Veterans Day, the Good Stuff podcast honors those who've served and the stories that remind us what strength really looks like.

[Damanze]

Had over 50 operations and had 23 blood transfusions.

[Veteran/VA System Advocate]

It is extremely difficult to navigate the VA system. I think what frustrates us the most is thinking about our veterans From World War II era, from Vietnam era, that don't have an advocate on the phone every day, all day calling for them. These are things that need to be talked about. These are things that need to be discussed.

[Good Stuff Podcast Host]

We're talking about resilience, purpose, and finding hope through community and connection.

[Veteran/VA System Advocate]

There are blessings in there as well that that will happen in the most unexpected places.

[Damanze]

You have to find the humor in it or I think it'll literally kill you.

[Good Stuff Podcast Host]

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[Bill]

All right, Damante, let's try this midseason recap before we get to the quick hitters of these other games.

[Damanze]

Yeah. So we're midway through the NFL season and there are some things that you were spot on about, like the Bucks being good and the Bengals being bad. And there's some things that you were dead wrong about, like the Colts being bad and the Raiders being good. What were some of the big developments that you didn't see coming in this season?

[Bill]

So I listen. The Colts would be the biggest one. I said I thought they could get the number one pick. Instead, you know, right now they're the number one seed. So that is a stone with. I'm glad you mentioned the Bengals because of this. I do not think it would be any different for them if Burrow were there. Flacco's playing out of his mind. Their problem is that defense is dreadful and acting like, oh, we just got screwed because Burrow's not here is now. Maybe they would have won some of those Jake Browning games, but as far as their ability to contend that that die was cast in the off season. So I listen. I got the commanders wrong. The commanders are now screwed because of Jaden's injury. But they were screwed before. They were going to be three and six, you know, with Jaden healthy. And we'll talk more about them in a. In a bit. I trying to think. I thought the Patriots would be a playoff team, but I did not think they would be in contention for the number one seed. Obviously, people are going to say, nick, you got the Broncos wrong. I'm not sure I did. We'll wait and see. On.

[Damanze]

No, you. I mean, you have called it up to this point and you. You called it last year. I mean, not last year, but earlier.

[Bill]

I said. I said they were going to be 6 and 2 and I wouldn't believe in them. And they started 6 and 2 and I didn't believe in them. Now I, I thought they would lose to the Texans, so I thought at this point they'd be six and three. But we'll wait and see. I'm trying to. I did not see this season from hell potential for Baltimore, and I didn't see Pittsburgh's weak link being its defense. Those things to me were misses to a degree. The nfc, aside from Washington, I was pretty solid on, I think. And I. Well, no, I underrated Seattle. I underrated Seattle, and Seattle's a really good team.

[Damanze]

What's the father on the. Yeah, I was about to say on the nfc, you were kind of hesitant to go all in on the Rams because of his back injury. If you Would you go back and change that by this point, seeing what you've seen?

[Bill]

Well, I do think I listen, I think I had a Bucks Rams NFC championship game, and I feel good about that right now. But the Rams are a little better than I thought they would be. The Bucks are what I thought they would be. But right now, this moment. I know Hard Rock disagrees with me, but I guess not necessarily disagrees. I'm just. He's not the favorite right now, this moment. Matt Stafford's league mvp. He's been awesome, quietly awesome, and his numbers have been awesome. All right, next.

[Damanze]

All right, so seasons from hell we got Washington. They're three and six and they obviously just lost Jaden Daniels to that crazy injury. Houston is 3 and 5 and have struggled on offense. And they also just lost CJ Stroud for a little bit to a concussion. Cincinnati, like we just talked about, three and six. Burrow still hurt. The defense is garbage. It sounds like the offense might be in like a open rebellion against the defense at this point, but rank the worst seasons from hell teams.

[Bill]

All right, number one's Washington. Cause they. They put a lot of resources into the season. They traded for Lattimore last year. They traded for Tunsil, they traded for Debo, they signed a lot of older veterans. The team is bad, the team is injured and this is where I have to be unpopular. I feel sick for Jaden Daniels but most quarterbacks arm does not bend that way. If they take that hit and people just like that. That was that. That part of that was. He is so slim and it is not a sport for skinny guys. It's not. And Jaden now has played 26 games to Monze. He has suffered cracked ribs, he has suffered a sprained knee. He has hurt his hamstring which has nothing to do with his frame and he's had his arm twisted backwards. So the reason Washington would be the number one season from hell team is if you're a Washington fan deep down you're like man is this guy just going to be an injury concern his whole career and go ahead.

[Damanze]

I mean yeah, I think he's definitely. He's worth the struggle. I mean you. You play the guy and see if he's worth. How can you stand up.

[Bill]

But, but yeah right now, right now this moment Damanze if you did a that quarter that year quarterback redraft right now this moment Drake goes number one. But after this weekend the game Caleb.

[Damanze]

Had you're saying it could be up in the air.

[Bill]

I think Caleb would be too. I think right now if you ask all 32 teams I think the Jaden injury stuff is so concerning. So that's the other reason they have the biggest year from hell number two is Cincinnati because I they are not one off season away from fixing that defense. Yeah they're going to blow all of Burton. Not all but a lot of Joe Burrows prime just trotting out a non competitive defense and burrow if I'm being fair. Also a huge injury concern. Guy suffered a bunch of weird different injuries Houston I. I didn't have as high a hopes for Houston as other people did maybe. And the defense has been as advertised. The offense just been brutal but. So that's how I would rank it with Baltimore flying in and taking first place to Monze if they miss the playoffs like now you like Baltimore missing the playoffs with yes Lamar got hurt but they survived it. They went one and two without Lamar like that would be the ultimate super bowl or bus team. Missing the playoffs be unbelievable.

[Damanze]

Yeah you gotta. We gotta have a new. They're also saying Lamar weighs less than Daniels in his mystery of his last five Seasons.

[Bill]

No. Listen, Lamar, like, have you guys watched. Do you guys watch football? Does Lamar Jackson look like Lamar? First of all, Lamar shed weight intentionally. Second of all, Lamar is sturdy. Lamar. When Lamar came out of college, he had a tyree kill neck like Lamar is. And by the way, Lamar has three times in his career missed significant portions of a season with injury. So the answer is kind of yes. But Lamar is. Does not have the frame that Jaden has. Not at all. All right, you want to do these quick hitters or you got something else before we do it?

[Damanze]

You gotta have a category. I think you gotta come up with, like a category four. I think you have two. Or is it three categories?

[Bill]

You gotta like, category one, instantly correct. Category two, eventually correct. Category three, cartoonishly wrong. What's category?

[Damanze]

Yeah, you gotta have like a category where it's like, I'm correct, but I just. I don't want to be correct.

[Bill]

Yes. You know what that is? Great job, Demons. Great job.

[Damanze]

Okay, you like that one?

[Bill]

Bring that to the TV show today.

[Damanze]

Oh, hell yeah. Let's go.

[Bill]

Category four.

[Damanze]

Let's go.

[Bill]

Right. But I don't want to be. And if I'm proven right, I can't take a victory. Left.

[Damanze]

Right. Exact. Exactly.

[Bill]

Like, you just have to meekly be like, I told you so.

[Damanze]

Exactly.

[Bill]

That's right. That. That great one. Category four. That's category four.

[Damanze]

Coming up, quick hitters. First off, Thursday Night Football, we had the Ravens defeating the dolphins 20, 28 to 6. Lamar's back.

[Bill]

Yeah, Lamar's back. Lamar's awesome. There's no disputing that. He was rusty for about a quarter and a half and then he was awesome again. And this. This is where Ravens fans can get mad at me. I don't care. I watched that game. I did not think your defense looked amazing. I know you allowed six points. I thought the Dolphins left so much meat on the bone in that first half. The Dolphins had so many opportunities. They got the ball within the 30 yard line six times in that game. And that doesn't count the time they had a bomb taken off the field or a bomb called back by penalty thanks to the worst tripping call of the season. Like, yeah, I think the Ravens defense still a concern.

[Damanze]

Next 49ers defeating the Giants 34 to 24.

[Bill]

This is like Kyle Shanahan's masterpiece, man. Even I didn't think he could get this out of Mac Jones. He and the Giants are just done. The Broncos loss ended the Giant season, and it might also end up costing the Chiefs the division I'll never get over Brian Dable having Jackson dart throw that pass with five minutes left. Up two scores. But Christian McCaffrey, they're just going to work him to death. And Max playing well. So shout out to the Giants. I mean shout out to the Niners.

[Damanze]

Next, Chargers defeat the Titans 27 to 20.

[Bill]

The. Well, I mean the. The Titans scored two non offensive touchdowns, a special teams touchdown and a pick six. But the Joe Walled injury is just devastating for him. And if I. The Chargers, what are the. I absolute. I think the final playoff spot in the AFC is going to come down to the Prince and Herbert. It's just great theater. And by the way, they play in Jacksonville in two weeks. And that because the Chargers was the.

[Damanze]

Last time they played them. Was. That was the last time they played. It wasn't.

[Bill]

I don't think. No, I don't think. Playoff game. My guess is they've played well, let's see. They didn't play last.

[Damanze]

It's possible. It is totally possible.

[Bill]

I feel like it is the last time they played them.

[Damanze]

Yeah.

[Bill]

Great call by you. The last time they played them was the playoff meltdown. Great call by you. All right. Next.

[Damanze]

Vikings defeat the Lions 27 24.

[Bill]

That was.

[Damanze]

Oh, my God.

[Bill]

That was a shocker.

[Damanze]

Yeah.

[Bill]

Yeah, that. That killed you? It killed me. Great game plan by Flores. Made golf look really uncomfortable. J.J. mcCarthy wasn't great, but he wasn't awful. Made a few good plays. That's a great win by the Vikings. I'm not gonna freak out about the Lions. That's just a great win by the Vikings.

[Damanze]

Next Patriots Defeat the Falcons 24:23.

[Bill]

Weird one, because the Falcons were incredibly lucky to be in that game. It was about to be 247 at half. And then Drake May just drops the ball. The Falcons return, return it almost for a touchdown. Now all of a sudden, it's 2114 at half. And all three of the Falcons touchdowns were just increasingly absurd. Drake London catches. Like just ridiculous. Drake London catches. But then they did have a chance to tie the game. And Parker Romo, who the Patriots cut this offseason, just gags the extra point and then. But the Patriots are legit. Good team. They flatly are. It felt like they were going to get a little unlucky in that game, but they didn't. They've now won six in a row.

[Damanze]

Next Belichick feel about all this. Broncos defeat the Texans 1815.

[Bill]

Yeah, I mean, and Broncos fans are like, why won't you give us more credit again? Because I watched the games and your defense is awesome. Now the most impactful play your defense made in this game was a dirty hit on CJ Stroud that knocked him out of the game. And then Davis Mills just out there with no shot whatsoever. But the Broncos defense is awesome. Even without certain it was awesome. That offense is so hard to watch, but they're seven and two and have a big margin of error now. And the Texans are on life support.

[Damanze]

Next Bears defeat the Bengals in a shootout 47, 42.

[Bill]

Yeah, I mean that would have been a season ending loss for the Bears. They were up 14 with 2 minutes left. Just over 2 minutes left and picked off Flacco. And then somehow they were down 42, 41 after giving up an onside kick. Caleb with the best drive of his pro career. And Caleb was awesome. And so we here's we know Caleb can carve up bad defenses, right? He did it to Dallas, he did it to Cincy. But that's a huge win for the bears. Get to 5 and 3 win a game like that. Steal it at the end after blowing it. Huge win by them and the Bengals. Listen, Flacco's been great. The Bengals are a mess.

[Damanze]

Next Rams defeat the Saints 34 to 10.

[Bill]

All right, I'm going to be totally honest with the audience. Rams Saints and Jags Raiders might be the two Sunday games all year that I watched the absolute least of. I didn't. I didn't. I I was solo screening Bill's Chiefs. So I know the Rams annihilated the Saints and I know the Jags Raiders game went to overtime with which bad for the Raiders. They played a full overtime, lost it and now play Thursday and now play Thursday night against Denver. That's tough for them. All right and last one the Seahawks annihilated the commander Seahawks legit good team. Like the Seahawks, the Seahawks are a legit good to really good team. Darnold's been awesome and Jackson Smith and Jigba has been fantastic. All right, let's get some listener questions.

[Damanze]

Kingston says as an English Chiefs fan since 92 this is my favorite show to listen to. To you guys both bring something unique and work so well. I love that you guys are family. Damanze is now as a natural thank you for both from England. Thank you.

[Bill]

That's really awesome. Thank you Kingston. I love that. I really love that.

[Damanze]

It's a great time.

[Bill]

Yeah good.

[Damanze]

Thanks.

[Bill]

You're doing great, pal.

[Damanze]

Thank you Kingston.

[Bill]

The and good reminder everyone like Rate Subscribe Review to the Caleb, please.

[Damanze]

Caleb. Oh wait. Sorry. Does Flaco's performance at all change the perception of how highly Joe Burrow should be ranked among qb. Good one.

[Bill]

I mean, here's the deal. We all kind of like grade Jalen hurts on a negative curve because it's like, well, look at the weapons of your has. I did a whole. I. I've done hours on Brock Purdy and the Avengers. When you see Joe Flacco fresh out the nursing home start throwing for 322 points a game, it at least gives you a little pause about are we giving Joe Cool just a touch too much credit? Just a little pause. I think that's fair.

[Damanze]

I think it's very fair. Yeah, very fair. Ari asked, can we get one word about my 54 Panthers?

[Bill]

Yeah, I mean, listen, this has been one of the biggest positive surprises of the season. When you started the year off 1 and 3, getting blown out by the Jags, losing a heartbreaker to the Cardinals, getting blown out by the Patriots. It's just like, okay, it's just the same old Panthers. The 30 to nothing Falcons win was a fluke and the Panthers are a mess. Since then you've won four out of five, including a shocking win against the Packers. And now your big favorites against the Saints to get to 6 and 4 and then have a game in Atlanta that'll be the biggest Panther game since Cam Newton was there. That's pretty awesome.

[Damanze]

You're tied with the Chiefs right now in the division.

[Bill]

Yes. Same record as the Chiefs. So shout out to you guys. People are asking if first things first on the air today. Yes, definitely. And then Giannis is in the chat evidently saying I'm the mvp. I don't know if that's the real Giannis or not, but he definitely is the MVP so far this year. Holy smokes. Giannis has been unbelievable. Giannis is averaging 34, 13 and 7 on 68% from the field. 68% and hit the game winner last night. Jumper turnaround. He's been unbelievable. Giannis has been unbelievable. All right, great job demons. A great job. To Blue Duck and to volume. A reminder everyone please like rate subscribe Review it really, really does help us shout out to our great sponsors, Hard Rock, Bet Boost and of course Zen. See you guys again on Thursday. Teeth look great Damanze. Talk to you guys soon. Watch right. Every now and then I rinse it out and I need J R tonight and I need it more My kid we so bad and the smell never leave. I don't know what to do. I'm always in the dark the smoke. What if that sh I'm Downy Rinsing tonight.

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[Bill]

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