Daman (3:01)

I'm all for it.

Nick Wright (3:02)

That's lit and so I am not short changing joke. I don't feel Joker or the Nuggets at all. But I also care a lot about NBA history and the resonance of these things and so let's get to Ian's questions.

Daman (3:20)

Ian says it's been two more playoff runs since Jokic his title. He had one brutal loss to the Wolves and couldn't beat the Thunder last year. Yet people keep pushing him up in the rankings into the Stefan Akeem tier. I don't get it. He's better than Giannis and Durant, but is he a tier above? He has two good playoff runs and that's it. Shay could surpass surpass that all this year. You think people are going too far with Yokich praise these days?

Nick Wright (3:46)

Listen, I guess it depends on what you define as people. I if people are trying to argue, you know he's one of the five greatest players ever, yes, that's too far. Now I do think he has pretty clearly established himself ahead of Giannis and ahead of Durant and I just I don't care. Like Durant having two rings doesn't offset to me the individual dominance of Joker and the fact that he was the unquestioned engine behind his ring and that he went through. You know, people can scoff at it that LeBron and Anthony Davis Lakers team had won a title and Joker was unstoppable en route to that series and his other deep playoff run. He ran into a great team. That 2020 Lakers team was a great team. They were the best team in the league start to finish. So but and I so if we expand, you know, outside of my top 12, which we did at the end of Thursday's pod of Bron, Kareem, Jordan, Magic, Russell, Wilt, Duncan, Kobe, Bird, Akeem, Shaq, steph. After that 12, if we were to, you know, remove Jokic, I then would have Dr. J and Moses I I and Moses is a great comp, by the way, in that Moses only as the One Ring has three MVPs was this kind of forgotten how dominant he was. Dr. J's tricky because Dr. J was the greatest ABA player ever then came over to the NBA and and immediately started going to a bunch of finals but didn't win his title until he and Moses came together. I have Joker slotted right ahead of those guys as right now the 13th greatest player ever. And the reason that it's not just Demons a can he win another ring? It's about deep consistent playoff runs. Because those guys that I mentioned, here's their playoff games played. Okay. And I'm just going to kind of go down the list as I see them. Braun is at 292. Okay, that's ridiculous. Three and a half seasons of playoff games. Tim Duncan is at 250. Kareem is at 237. Kobe is at 220. Shaq is at 216. Magic, who had a shortened career is at 190. I'm scrolling further to find the so who have I wilt is at 160. And keep in mind the playoffs. Obviously back then there weren't as many rounds. Bill Russell is at 165. Akeem is at 145. And you people don't think of. Akeem is like a ton of deep playoff runs. He's at 145. Steph is. Where is Steph? Hold on, I can't find him. Oh, Steph is at 1:55. Did I, did I that cover everybody? Did I leave anybody out? Did I say Bird? Bird is at 164 and Joker is at 94 playoff games. So that's where you start hitting your head on. If everyone on the list has played nearly double the playoff games as you, it's just hard to break in to that group. And I know Shaq only has the one mvp, but what Shaq does have is it's not just the three Pete and it's not just the three straight Finals MVPs. It's that in the early 2000s in back to back to back NBA Finals, Shaquille O' Neal did the following. In his first NBA Finals, first championship, I should say he was 38 points, 17 rebounds a night for the finals. And then in his next NBA Finals against defensive player of the year Dikembe Mutombo, he was 33 points, 16 rebound tonight. And then in his third NBA finals he was 36 points, 12 rebounds a night. Which means those three finals collectively he averaged 35 and 15 with three blocks and four assists. So like that gives him real heft if you will. Akeem, who's the other center, I still and I know others don't have ahead of ha that that I have ahead of Joker. He is and maybe Wimby takes it, but he is the greatest defensive player of the last 50 years. And by his second year in the league he had led a team to the NBA Finals averaging 2712 and four blocks a game en route to it. He then like Joker was out in the Joker's not out in the wilderness, but didn't have a championship caliber team around him. And even though demand say he was the greatest defensive player alive. Akeem had a playoff series as a 25 year old that they lost in four games where he they lost in four. He averaged 38 and 17 as the greatest defensive player. And then he won back to back championships and back to back Finals MVPs averaging over the course of those two Finals 31 and 1111 rebounds along with four blocks a game going up against two other first ballot hall of Fame centers, Shaquille O', Neal, Patrick Ewing, David Robinson along the way and not shutting those guys down but winning those matchups. So as great as Joker is, if you want to elbow some of those guys out of the top 12, much less the top 10, you're going to have the opportunities two, three more deep runs or one more, one more ring, multiple more deep runs and we can start, you know, having those conversations is what I think is the fairest way to look at it. All right, go ahead Tom.

Daman (11:36)

Say poppy dreams asked do you think a team will ever repeat in the NBA again?

Nick Wright (11:42)

Ever's a very long time. And so my answer to that is is probably. But I also think it is not Demon's a coincidental but that as time has gone on and the talent level's gotten higher and the league has added more teams that the ceiling of championships one can win keeps lowering. So here's what I mean. Bill Russell, the player of the early days of the NBA, I mean post Mike and but of integrated NBA won 11 championships. Call that, call him the player of the late 50s, early 60s. Yeah, right. His teammate John Havlicek, who was on his team for some of those championships and then played into the 70s, he set the new bar which is lower the 70s era player for championships at 8. Kareem Abdul Jabbar, who played in the 70s into the 80s set the bar the ceiling of championships for that era at 6. Michael Jordan who played in the 80s into the 90s met that bar at 6. Kobe Bryant and Tim Duncan, who started their career in the 90s and then played into the 2000s set the bar of championships at five and LeBron James and Steph Curry who played in the 2000s into the 2010s and 20s have set the bar championships at four. So you like the. The defining guys. It keeps going lower.

Daman (13:52)

Yeah.

Nick Wright (13:53)

And it's also one of the reasons why I don't find the Jordan 6 versus LeBron's 4 to be as persuasive as.

Daman (14:02)

Yeah, I feel like I've never heard you bring out that argument when defending defending that case. But yeah, that makes sense.

Nick Wright (14:10)

Just like you know, so Magic who played in the 80s into the 90s has five like this. The maximum realistic championships that can be won number seems to keep decreasing. And now what we're seeing demanz is the 2020s guys, none of them have gotten their second yet. The 2010s into the 2020s guys, they're all sitting on one.

Daman (14:39)

Yeah.

Nick Wright (14:39)

And now obviously some of them are going to get two, some of them may even get three. But are we going to see the three Pete? Right.

Daman (14:48)

Three even harder.

Nick Wright (14:50)

Right. But so it's just the what is realistic as far as number of championships seems to be decreasing rather than increasing. And a three peat which I mean the Celtics had an eight Pete. The Bulls had back to back three peats. The Pistons were a game away from having a three peat but it was on the front end. They lost a game seven of the finals and then one back back championships. The Lakers had a three peat three. I the reason I'm not going to dismiss it is we might be two and a half months from the Thunder being two thirds of the way there. But I yeah it's not just gets harder in this sport in particular.

Daman (15:42)

Speaking of okc, you know how with NBA the champions it seems like the next year after you win just like a slump, OKC is kind of beaten that huh with like them winning a championship last year and they've been pretty dominant this year.

Nick Wright (15:56)

Well I mean they listen they've been dominant but we felt that way about Boston at this point last year and Denver at this point the year before. Not as dominant in the regular season like we'll see the the defending champs keep getting popped in round two. Now I OKC we would think is going to avoid that. But everyone thought Denver was going to avoid it. Nobody thought Minnesota was going to beat them and nobody like most people thought the Celtics were going to avoid that. People didn't think that the Knicks were going to beat them. So we'll see. Today's show is brought to you by our Presenting Sponsor Hard Rock BET Florida Sportsbook Springs in the air, and that can only mean one thing. Baseball's back in full swing. Hard Rock Bet makes it easy to bet on America's pastime in just few easy taps, not just picking winners. You can bet on home runs, strikeouts, and even whether there's a run scored in the first inning for quick, fast paced action right out of the gate. If you miss the first pitch, no problem. You can live bet everything every at bat all the way to the final out. But maybe you're more into the NBA hardwoods heating up as the playoff pushes on. Hard Rock Bet every night is a shot to build a same game parlay and score a major bucket. You might might like the hot hand to drop 30, the big man to control the glass with a double double point guard to dish out five assists. However you draw it up, Hard Rock Bet gives you tons of ways to stack your picks and do an epic same game parlay. If you're ever late to tip off, don't worry. Hard Rock Bet lets you live bet all game long from the first bucket to the final buzzer. Sign up today and double your winnings on your first 10 bets. Maximum $50. That's right, double your winnings on your first 10 bets. So if you would have won a hundred bucks on your bet, now it's 200. Download the hard Rock Bet app today and get the party started. Payable and bonus bets. Not a cash offer Offered by the Seminole Tribe of Florida in Florida. Offered by Seminole Hard Rock Digital LLC in all other states. Must be 21 plus and physically present in Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee or Virginia to play. Terms and conditions apply. Concerned about gambling in Florida? Call 1833 play wise in Indiana. If you or someone you know as a GAMB problem wants help, call 1-800-9 with it gambling problem, call 1-800- gambler Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, Michigan, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia on the serving Pancakes podcast,

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Lily Herman (19:22)

Ready for a different take on Formula One? Look no further than no Grip, a new podcast tackling the culture of motor racing's most coveted series. Join me, Lily Herman, as we dive into the underexplored pockets of F1, including the astrology of the current grid.

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Lewis Hamilton, Capricorn Sun Cancer Moon.

Nick Wright (19:38)

Wouldn't you know it? Michael Schumacher is also a Capricorn Sun Cancer Moon.

Lily Herman (19:43)

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We have one man who, upon hearing

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Nick Wright (20:24)

1010 shots fired. City hall building. A silver.40 caliber handgun was recovered at the scene.

Rorschach Narrator (20:31)

From iHeart podcasts and Best Case Studios. This is Rorschach murder at City Hall.

Charlamagne Tha God (20:37)

How could this have happened in City Hall? Somebody tell me that.

Serving Pancakes Hosts (20:40)

Jeffrey.

Charlamagne Tha God (20:40)

Who did it?

Rorschach Narrator (20:42)

July 2003. Councilman James E. Davis arrives at New York City hall hall with a guest. Both men are carrying concealed weapons, and in less than 30 minutes, both of them will be dead.

Nick Wright (21:00)

Everybody in the chambers ducks.

Rorschach Narrator (21:02)

A shocking public murder.

Nick Wright (21:04)

I scream, get down. Get down.

Daman (21:06)

Those are shots.

Nick Wright (21:06)

Those are shots. Get down.

Rorschach Narrator (21:08)

A charismatic politician.

Nick Wright (21:09)

You know, he just bent the rules all the time, man. I still have a weapon and I could shoot you.

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And an outsider with a secret he

Lily Herman (21:19)

alleged he was a victim of Flat down.

Daman (21:22)

That may or may not have been political. That may have been about sex.

Rorschach Narrator (21:25)

Listen to Rorschach murder at City hall on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Nick Wright (21:36)

All right, Daman, let's go to some

Daman (21:37)

NFL talk Ja Will asks if Andy Reid was to retire, would you rather have a young new coach or an experienced veteran coach from a Homes and company?

Nick Wright (21:47)

Listen, I've been on the record about this for a while. If Andy Reid retires, I want Kyle Shanahan. Yeah. That's the coach I want. And there's, you know, I, you throw in there. Sean McVay too.

Daman (22:06)

That the, you think that would even be possible?

Nick Wright (22:10)

Well, I don't know. I mean I do wonder like,

Daman (22:16)

like Shannon is like oh, like I get the chance to actually work with a great quarterback instead of having.

Nick Wright (22:22)

Yeah. If he's right. If he's never won yet and for if McVeigh, if Stafford retires and they're kind of out in the wilderness a bit like. But no, I don't want a first time head coach for the end of Mahomes prime.

Daman (22:37)

Yeah.

Nick Wright (22:37)

Is the, you know, the end. But I, so. And it becomes, depending on when Andy retires, it becomes one of the greatest jobs ever available in the NFL.

Daman (22:48)

Yeah.

Nick Wright (22:49)

So that's what I want.

Daman (22:50)

All right, next, Dirk asks what do the Chiefs need to accomplish in 2026 to officially say the dynasty did not end in 2025 and it's still ongoing.

Nick Wright (23:03)

Make it back to the AFC Championship game. If you make seven straight AFC championship games and then have every year of my home screw you make it make five Super Bowls, win three, seven straight AFC championship games and then you have one disaster year. That I guess like silver lining of the disaster year is they still have never lost in the playoffs prior to the AFC title game. But if you go disaster year followed by early playoff defeat, then it feels like we're on to a new era, you know. And so, and that's what I'm with the. That's why I've split up the patriots dynasty into two different ones because oh eight, Brady gets hurt. They missed the playoffs. 0, 9 and 10, they get popped in early in the playoffs. You know, that to me was pretty clear. And then 11 to 18 was the next iteration of it. Now if you're of the belief the Patriots dynasty was 01 to 18, then the Patriots, the Chiefs could go three years in a row without winning a playoff game. And it's still going as long as Reed and Mahomes are still there. If they win a Super bowl, it's not how I view it. All right, next.

Daman (24:18)

Regalo asked, do you think Caleb Williams can dethrone Patrick Mahomes as the most physically talented quarterback in the league? Especially considering age and the fact that Patrick is coming off an acl.

Nick Wright (24:29)

Yeah, I think he can. I think now most physically talented is very different than best. Daniel S. Isn't Josh. I don't. Josh is the most physically imposing. So, like. But this is, you know, it depends on how you look at it or whatever. They're all very different. It's the three strongest arms in the league. Josh, Caleb, and Patrick. Three guys who can hurt you with their legs, but very differently. Caleb and Patrick have the most creative, you know, kind of arm angle stuff. Patrick's the most accurate. Josh is, in my opinion, the most devastating runner. Caleb at this point's the most creative. But yeah, I think that. But so much of what makes Patrick great is all the stuff he does pre snap where he's just so far and away better than any other quarterback in the league at diagnosing stuff, at setting protections, all that stuff.

Daman (25:35)

All right, next, Jacob asked Nicks, who do you think are the next three quarterbacks to win their first Super Bowls? So exclude Mahomes, hurt, Stafford, Darnold, etc.

Nick Wright (25:45)

Etc. Yeah. So the next new super bowl champions, my money would be on Josh. What are you shaking your head about?

Daman (26:09)

Oh, no, no, no. Daniel got in my ear and he's like, lamar. And I was just like, no, I want to hear what he says.

Nick Wright (26:14)

Yeah, I, I'm, I don't think Burrow's gonna win one in Cincinnati. And you know, Hertz is obviously already won one. No, I, I would be. I think it would be disrespectful to Lamar to say Trevor.

Daman (26:38)

Okay, all right.

Nick Wright (26:40)

But I don't know that my money's on that I necessarily think Lamar is going to win one. Josh is the easy number one pick. Easy for me at least.

Daman (26:56)

Did you see a scenario and Dak getting one in the next couple of years?

Nick Wright (26:59)

So I was. I mean, that's a scenario. Yes. Would he be my. One of my picks? I really do like Ben Johnson. I really like Caleb. I think Caleb's on my list. And then it's like a debate of like Lamar, Bo Nix because of how good that team was around him and how good he was in the playoffs. Like, I have to. I can't dismiss the results. Yeah. Purdy, if the. Because the Niners have been there. You know what? You've got to include that as at least a possibility. Drake may. You'd have to include as a real possibility. But it wouldn't. I, I, the third one is hard. I will say Lamar because he's so good in the regular season and was. We talked about before. Even if he's not great in the playoffs, they might be. You know, you can win anyway sometimes. That's how Peyton did it this first time. But I would, I would be very surprised if the next first time super bowl champion quarterback is not Josh. Now like listen, I think Stafford's got the best, I think the Rams are the best team this year. So like, you know, Stafford one another, the, the Seahawks are going to be right there. The Eagles think they're going to be right back in it. I believe I know others disagree. The Chiefs are going to be right back in it. All those guys have already won one and I don't, I don't think Herbert and the Chargers have a Super bowl caliber team and we've never seen them play well in the playoffs. I'd love to be able to say Trevor, but that would just, that's just what I want. I don't really have proof of concept that they're ready for that. The all right, let's act let you know, let me do this Boost Mobile read Then we have a very interesting question. Boost Mobile's proving you don't have to overpay for great wireless Unlock the savings with the 25amonth Forever Unlimited plans, permanent price with no contracts and no price hikes. You can keep your phone and your number, but you save up to 600 a year compared to the major carriers. Stop overpaying and switch to a fair price@boostmobile.com today based on average annual single line payment of AT&T Verizon and T Mobile customers compared to 12 months on the Boost Mobile Unlimited plan as of January 2026. For full offer details, visit boost mobile.com all right, de Monte, let's go to the miscellaneous questions right above the Boost read.

Daman (29:46)

Simon asks, in your opinion, what is the importance of sports in life, especially in the current climate.

Nick Wright (29:52)

So, so listen, I, I think that particularly in the current geopolitical climate, if that's what you're talking about, sports have a very important role in providing an escape for people from, you know, what is an increasingly scary and confusing world. And you know, I've told this story before, but I'll tell it quickly again about doing radio in Kansas City and having kind of like a moment of shame almost in that I wasn't, you know, my dad's a firefighter, my sister was like literally fighting for women's rights in cases that ended up going before the Supreme Court. And my mom was doing very important work for helping women in the business world, like pro bono work Essentially like helping people out. And I'm, they're just, you know, talking about who the chief should draft in the second round. I was like, what am I doing? And my dad just flat out told me, he was like, you are helping the people who are doing those important jobs you're talking about have better days in, you know, giving them escape. Giving, you know. Yeah. Giving them moments of peace. And so that's how I've always looked at it. And I also think if I'm going to be a little extra weird or deep about it in a geopolitical climate and domestically political climate where there are more and more arguments than ever before about what is reality, what is actual fact, what is fiction, what is truth. I think sports are really nice in that we might argue a lot about sports, but we don't argue about. No, actually Michael Jordan didn't win six titles. That's fake. No, actually the Seahawks aren't the defending champions. The Pats won that game. No, actually ucla, Michigan didn't win Monday night. Like sports are one of the last places where we at least all agree on what happened. We can disagree about why it happened, should it have happened? All of it. But so much of the, the current world is we are disagreeing about what has occurred and sports, we're not, we don't do that. So I think that is, I think that is great. All right, ask. Scroll down a bit. Demonte do J.

Daman (33:16)

Lo's question JLO asks, would any of the first things first crew ever consider playing the NBA celebrity All Star game?

Nick Wright (33:25)

I would not. I am here to tell you guys, I do not understand why people play sports publicly or on television if they're not good at them. And once upon a time I, you know, I think, I think 24 year old radio host Nick Wright in better shape who played basketball somewhat often could have gone out there and you know, held my own against like other. I wasn't a celebrity or something. Yeah, but something not, not look ridiculous.

Daman (34:06)

Right.

Nick Wright (34:06)

41 year old Nick Wright would look ridiculous. Now KW's a good athlete and Brew used to be a good athlete and I think believes he still could be. Brew used to do work in these real NBA like games against NBA guys. Brew was a college basketball player and you know, had a sick hook shot like. But this is what I would say if any or all of us were invited. I would counsel my. Yes, correct me, that is exactly. I would counsel my wilds and Brew. I would counsel my crew.

Daman (34:50)

No, I'm playing in a man

Nick Wright (34:53)

them strongly. Let's not do this.

Serving Pancakes Hosts (34:56)

And.

Nick Wright (35:00)

And I. Yeah, I would. I would love if at some point Daman could play in one of those games. That'd be sick. And I would love to coach one of those games.

Daman (35:17)

Yeah.

Nick Wright (35:17)

Like, be. You know what I mean? Be one of those guys. But I ain't playing. I mean, you're not just gonna. You're not gonna catch me on video playing sports. It's just. There's just no way.

Daman (35:28)

You would never. That you would never hear the end of it. It's the new me. What they're putting under your comments under every video.

Nick Wright (35:34)

Right. And I also feel like. I feel like, you know, Shams caught a bit of this.

Daman (35:40)

Yeah.

Nick Wright (35:40)

Like, they're the. It's just. It's just a no win. All right, I got to run today. We will try to do a longer mailbag next week. A huge thanks to our sponsored Hard Rock BET and Boost Mobile. Hope you guys enjoyed it. Thank you to the Volume and Blue Dock. Enjoy the Masters this weekend. Enjoy. I almost said happy Mother's Day. That's a month from now. What is this weekend is. Did you know demanz what Monday is? Do you know what it is?

Daman (36:09)

It's Earth Day. Right.

Nick Wright (36:10)

Okay, great. Oh, wait.

Charlamagne Tha God (36:11)

Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

Daman (36:13)

It's you and mom's anniversary.

Nick Wright (36:15)

Right? And where will she be?

Daman (36:19)

Oh, crap. Yeah. She's gonna be out here.

Nick Wright (36:22)

She's gonna be with you. She's gonna be with you and the baby on the anniversary. All right, I'll talk to you guys all on Tuesday. See you on tv. You know, depending on when you're listening to this. Enjoy the Masters. Talk to you guys soon. We'll try.

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