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Alright, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites, The Chiefs join us today.

They’re a regular feature on the pod now, showing up every couple of months to bestow a little governance wisdom upon us … 3 former Chiefs of Staff to some of Canada’s most accomplished heads of government: Brian Topp, Tim Murphy, and Ian Brodie.

Alright, so today we’re talking about PMs taking foreign trips. What do they typically accomplish and what are these Carney-missions accomplishing?

Then, the machinations of Caucus management. What happens when MPs have different public opinions than the Party?

And so, making their 12th appearance on the pod:

Brian Topp – former Chief of Staff to Rachel Notley in Alberta. Deputy Chief to Roy Romanow in Saskatchewan. Co-architect of Jack Layton’s Orange Wave. Today, he’s a founding partner at GT&co.

Tim Murphy – former Chief of Staff to Paul Martin. Today, Executive Vice President and Chief Strategic Affairs Officer at AECON.

Ian Brodie – first Chief of Staff to Stephen Harper and central to the founding of the CPC. Today, Professor of Political Science at the University of Calgary, and Senior Advisor at New West Public Affairs.

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Statesman by Day, Caucus Manager by Night with The Chiefs: Brodie, Murphy & Topp