361: Greg Warren - I Made it Further than Shane Gillis at West Point

Summary

The HoneyDew with Ryan Sickler

Episode 361: Greg Warren – "I Made it Further Than Shane Gillis at West Point"

Date: November 24, 2025
Guest: Greg Warren

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Episode Overview

In this episode, comedian Greg Warren sits down with Ryan Sickler to discuss the "lowlights" of his life – from being a state champion wrestler with a clarinet hidden under his arm, to his time at West Point (where he lasted longer than fellow comedian Shane Gillis), battles with food, OCD, grief, and ultimately finding catharsis through storytelling and stand-up. The conversation is honest and funny, often veering into surprising depths about mental health, family, and the lasting lessons of failure and perseverance.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Growing Up in St. Louis: The Warren Family

• Background & Family (05:12 – 07:03)
  • Greg is the oldest of three boys; his youngest brother is 18 years younger, a surprise to teenage Greg.
  • His dad was his high school wrestling coach, which shaped much of Greg’s adolescence:

    “My dad was a high school wrestling coach. He was my coach.” (06:51 – Greg Warren)

Wrestling: From 5 Years Old to All-American

• Early Wrestling Life (07:44 – 11:09)
  • Began wrestling at age 5, thanks to his dad’s guidance.
  • Older brothers were more into soccer; Greg became a standout wrestler.
  • Won Missouri state championships at 138 and 145 lbs:

    “I think I won it at 138 and 145 my senior year.” (11:03 – Greg Warren)

  • His high school wasn’t a wrestling powerhouse, so the recognition was muted compared to other schools.
• Wrestling Culture & Rituals (10:27 – 12:32)
  • Ryan shares stories of “Vision Quest”-inspired spotlight matches to attract crowds to wrestling.
  • Both discuss the insane rituals of cutting weight with trash bags, saunas, and sweat suits.

Music Nerd Meets Mat Monster

• Musician and Athlete Identity (13:20 – 15:15)
  • Despite wrestling dominance, Greg also played clarinet and was musically gifted:

    “Yeah, I could do, you know, Rhapsody in Blue.” (13:20 – Greg Warren)

  • Ryan highlights the rarity:

    “Nobody’s ever sat in that seat and said they could crush the clarinet.” (13:40 – Ryan Sickler)

Choices After High School: West Point & Wrestling

• College Recruitment and West Point Arrival (16:12 – 17:40)
  • Recruited by Missouri schools and West Point; chose to attend the US Military Academy.
  • Lasted a full year (unlike Shane Gillis), but found the intense regiment wasn’t for him:

    “I made it a lot farther than Shane did. I went a full year.” (16:52 – Greg Warren)

• Military Life & Equipment Fiascos (17:57 – 19:11)
  • Lost a firing pin during a field exercise, leading to a classic military screaming scene:

    “They're screaming at me… but I could also spot the fear in his eye because he knew if I lost that, he’d… It’s coming down on him.” (18:19 – Greg Warren)

  • Realizes the military path isn’t right and quits after first year.

Back to Missouri — Success, Failure, and Comedy Dreams

• College Wrestling at Missouri (20:13 – 22:06)
  • Wrestled at Missouri, made All-American senior year:

    “My senior year I made All-American. I got seventh in the country.” (20:38 – Greg Warren)

  • Ryan and Greg bond over once being at the same NCAA nationals in 1990.
• The Wild World of Weight Cutting (27:59 – 32:22)
  • Recounts dangerous and comedic extremes of weight cuts using sauna, stationary bikes, and live albums:

    “We’d seal off the showers with a tarp… put on Scorpions Live… It was the first spin class” (28:39 – Greg Warren)

Food, Mental Health, OCD & Binge Eating

• Unhealthy Relationship with Food (32:27 – 38:40)
  • Wrestling left a lasting negative impact on his relationship with food; emotional eating and binge cycles ensued.
  • Hilariously recounts buying Oreos to supplement Jack in the Box Oreo shakes, and the time his therapist fell asleep during a session about cookies:

    “The dude fell asleep… I go, yeah man, I just like Oreos. I’m a grown man in here talking about eating cookies.” (39:37 – Greg Warren)

• Therapy Failures and OCD (Scrupulosity) (41:01 – 49:09)
  • Explains a form of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder called “scrupulosity”—obsessive guilt over things he may or may not have done.
  • Wrestling and compulsive eating were coping mechanisms:

    “I might be a criminal… Life’s over. Just go eat a bunch of Ding Dongs.” (44:23 – Greg Warren)

  • Eventually gets proper diagnosis and some effective treatment through exposure therapy.

Bonds, Grief, & Family

• Losing His Mother (55:30 – 65:33)
  • Shares touching stories about his mother’s illness, passing, and their close relationship:

    "I wanted to be with her for as much time as I had. It made me realize I didn’t want to be away from my family that much anymore." (58:05 – Greg Warren)

  • His mother was a humor columnist; Greg now shares her writing every Mother’s Day and birthday on social media.
  • Discusses moving from New York back to St. Louis to be close to family, prioritizing those ties over career chaos.
• Parental Support (61:33 – 66:52)
  • Both parents supported his comedy dreams, but dad was a bit tougher at first.
  • Emphasizes how lucky he feels to have come from a loving, intact family:

    “I did not [have a terrible childhood]. Thank you for that.” (67:16 – Greg Warren, to his mother before she died)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I made it a lot farther than Shane [Gillis] did. I went a full year [at West Point].”
  – Greg Warren (16:52)
• “Nobody’s ever sat in that seat and said they could crush the clarinet.”
  – Ryan Sickler (13:40)
• Comedy through Therapy:
  “The dude fell asleep… I go, yeah man, I just like Oreos. I’m a grown man in here talking about eating cookies.”
  – Greg Warren (39:37)
• Making Sense of OCD:
  “You just obsess, like: Did I do that horrible thing? …I just would—life’s over, just go eat a bunch of Ding Dongs or whatever.”
  – Greg Warren (44:04)
• On Family and Gratitude:
  “I did not [have a terrible childhood]. Thank you for that.”
  – Greg Warren (67:16)
• Advice to His 16-Year-Old Self:
  “Nothing is permanent… Whatever this thing is, just go try again… Things usually have a way of working themselves out… It’s never over.”
  – Greg Warren (68:46)

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Important Timestamps

• Greg Introduces Himself and Background: 04:28
• Family Dynamics, Surprising Youngest Brother: 05:17
• Wrestling Start, State Titles: 07:44, 11:03
• Band Geek & Wrestling Jock Crossover: 13:20
• West Point & Military Anecdotes: 16:49, 17:57
• Blood, Sweat, and Saunas: Cutting Weight: 27:59
• Food Binging, Therapy Gone Wrong: 32:27, 39:37
• Detailed OCD Experience ('Scrupulosity'): 41:01, 44:23
• Losing His Mom – Grief and Family Legacy: 55:30 – 65:33
• Advice to Younger Self: 68:46

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Tone & Style

The conversation is candid, irreverently funny, but deeply humane. Both Ryan and Greg trade stories like old friends, with Greg’s humility and self-deprecating humor keeping things light even as they touch on pain, therapy, and grief. The episode balances playful ribbing (“I could crush the clarinet”) with moments of genuine vulnerability and soulful insight. For fans of stand-up or tales of resilience, it’s both poignant and hilarious.

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Where to Find More

• Greg Warren’s Special: “The Champ” on YouTube (Nateland Channel)
• Greg’s Site: gregwarrencomedy.com
• Instagram/Twitter: @GregWarren
• Ryan Sickler: @RyanSickler // ryansickler.com

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Summary Takeaway

If you’re looking for a funny, relatable, and often moving exploration of the “lowlights” that shape us—and how laughter, family, and persistence can help you thrive—this is a must-listen HoneyDew episode.

Transcript

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[Ryan Sickler]

What's up, guys? I just want to say thank you very much for all the support on the special. Please, if you haven't watched it, go watch it. Like it. Comment, all that good stuff. Live and alive. Streaming now on my YouTube. What's up, guys? The holidays are coming and I'm gonna be straight up with you. I'm just trying to get rid of the merch I have. We got quite a bit of merch left, and I just want to get rid of it. And I want to get rid of it for you guys. All right, so here's what we got going on. There is a huge talking about fire sale, y'.

[Greg Warren]

All.

[Ryan Sickler]

Huge fire sale in the merch store. On my [e-mail] we've got $10 tees and hats, $20 hoodies and pants. You got stickers in there. But listen, here's the thing. Just order. Because trust me, every order comes with a free gift, and any apparel purchase comes with two free gifts. All right? That's a chance to get a lot of gifts, y'. All. All right, so go over to the merch shop right now. Get your $10 hoodies, night pants. I don't think there's anything more than $20 over there, honestly, in the whole entire store. So go get your stuff now. Ryan sickler.com the honeydew with Ryan Sickler. Welcome back to the Honeydew, y'.

[Greg Warren]

All.

[Ryan Sickler]

We're over here doing it in the night pants studios. I am ryan sickler. Ryan sickler.com and Ryan Sickler on all your social media, and I'm gonna start this episode like I start them all. Thank you for watching this show. Thank you for supporting anything I do. If you're already this far in, drop a comment, help out the algorithm. Algorithm. You know how it all works. All right, look, man, we're just gonna get into it. You know what we do here? We highlight the low lights, and I always say, these are the stories behind the storytellers. And I'm very excited to have this guest with us here today. First time on the Honeydew. Ladies and gentlemen, Greg Warren. Welcome to the Honeydew, Greg Warren.

[Greg Warren]

Thanks, Ryan. It's good to be here, man.

[Ryan Sickler]

Thank you for being here, buddy. We've been having great chats before we started here. I can't wait to get into it. But before we do, please promote everything and anything you would like.

[Greg Warren]

Okay, thanks, man. Well, I. I got a new special out. It's called the Championship and it's on YouTube. It's on Nate Bargett. See his YouTube channel, Nateland. And it dropped few weeks ago and that's what I'm most excited about, so.

[Ryan Sickler]

All right. Where can they find you on social media and all that stuff?

[Greg Warren]

It's a Greg Warren comedy.com as my website and I think that has all the links on there. But yeah, pretty excited about the special.

[Ryan Sickler]

Good for you, dude.

[Greg Warren]

Thanks, man.

[Ryan Sickler]

Let's get into it because I'm excited to hear your story. So where are you from originally?

[Greg Warren]

St. Louis.

[Ryan Sickler]

All right. From St. Louis. And family of what? How many brothers, sisters?

[Greg Warren]

Two brothers, yeah. No sisters.

[Ryan Sickler]

Are your parents together?

[Greg Warren]

My mom passed away nine years ago. She did? Yeah. And my brother. My brother Devin, actually, I didn't mention it. Is 18 years younger than me.

[Ryan Sickler]

So same parents?

[Greg Warren]

Same parents.

[Ryan Sickler]

Same mom and dad?

[Greg Warren]

Same mom and dad.

[Ryan Sickler]

Are you the middle child?

[Greg Warren]

I'm the oldest, yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

18 years younger. Was it an accident or were they really like, let's have another.

[Greg Warren]

No, I don't. I don't think it was, you know, intended. I was at some summer.

[Ryan Sickler]

You're out of high. You're pretty.

[Greg Warren]

I was. It was in between junior and senior year, high school and my dad. I was. I was doing something like. I think it was BO State. Do you remember what that. It was. It was like student government thing or whatever that you. But I did that and I was called my dad from there. He goes, we need to talk about something. And I was like, my grades must have come because it was early. And I was like, you're right, my grades can't. Yeah, it's like. This is what. I knew we were going to have this discussion. He goes, your mother's pregnant. And I was like, what? And took me a while to process. Yeah. So. Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

And how old's the middle brother?

[Greg Warren]

He's four years younger than me.

[Ryan Sickler]

So 14 year gap between him too. That's massive.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, it's pretty big.

[Ryan Sickler]

Are you guys all close?

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, man. Yeah, we are. You know, and it's kind of fun now because, like, my little brother has kids and they're my nephews and their little kids, so it's like I never had kids.

[Ryan Sickler]

He did it young.

[Greg Warren]

Well, yeah. Yeah. I'm 56, almost 57. So. Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

So growing Up. What's it like for you? You're in. Your parents are married and together. Growing up, though.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, man. They. I had a pretty ideal childhood, I guess. I mean, everybody's got stuff, but, you know. Yeah, I. My dad was. Was a high school wrestling coach. He was my coach.

[Ryan Sickler]

Oh, is that right?

[Greg Warren]

Okay.

[Ryan Sickler]

I want. I was going to ask you how you got into it. So was he his high school wrestling coach? Was he a prominent wrestler in his day as well?

[Greg Warren]

I think he was decent, you know, but nothing. He was a pretty good football player. I think he played in the Air Force and he was a good high school wrestler, but nothing like crazy. He was, you know, he was one.

[Ryan Sickler]

Of those good athlete dudes that could kind of be good at a lot of stuff.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, I think he wrestled in Long Island. He grew up Long Island. He was telling me, like, you know, when I was, you know, we talk about who's a state champ and all that stuff. He was like, we never even got to the state. It was a big deal if he just got out of Long island, which makes sense because it's so big and, you know.

[Ryan Sickler]

So he's your high school coach. Is that when you start wrestling?

[Greg Warren]

Five years old?

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he put you in it. You love it.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

Are all your brothers wrestlers?

[Greg Warren]

They all did wrestle at one time or the other. Those guys were primarily soccer players, though. I mean, they. They played in college. That you did, too.

[Ryan Sickler]

It was all juco and Really, y'. All. Community college, bro. Ca. Community college. All juco.

[Greg Warren]

Is it in Maryland?

[Ryan Sickler]

Yep. Yeah, Right next to the community college I went to is right next to. You probably heard of umbc?

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, man.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, it's right next door. Yeah, yeah, it's like their shed.

[Greg Warren]

They had a run in the tournament.

[Ryan Sickler]

A few years ago.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, they did.

[Ryan Sickler]

They took out like, a top team in the first round. Had a bit of a run. Yeah, yeah.

[Greg Warren]

So many. It wasn't me. Somebody called them. United Missouri bank or something. It wasn't me. Not my joke. But, yeah, they managed. So when I was in high school, there was a junior college called Merrimack Junior College. It was right next to where I live. It's probably a mile and a half or whatever. And they had a wrestling team, and I would go up there. That's kind of how I got good.

[Ryan Sickler]

You know, just letting the older, more experienced guys.

[Greg Warren]

I would go up there and work out with those guys every day.

[Ryan Sickler]

At what age are you doing this through high school?

[Greg Warren]

Throughout high school.

[Ryan Sickler]

So, 5. Is your dad coaching you?

[Greg Warren]

Then.

[Ryan Sickler]

Or is he just putting you in, like, the peewee stuff?

[Greg Warren]

He started the Little League team that I did part of. And. And then I was around his teams, you know, just. And I don't remember a lot of it, but I was pretty good. Pretty quick because, you know, he was. He was a good coach. Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

And so are you. Success. I didn't do it till high school, so now you got me one wondering, too. Are you cutting weight and stuff at an early age or.

[Greg Warren]

No. You're not? Not.

[Ryan Sickler]

Like, how do they protect the kids that are 5, 6, 7? Are there weight classes there?

[Greg Warren]

I think there's weight classes. I mean, the biggest protection is you have good parents, you know, and my dad was. He was a good. Good parent and a good coaching. He didn't really even let me cut weight in high school that much. I think I tried once. Yeah. I didn't cuddle. I mean, you're a little here and there, but not when I got to college. It was insane.

[Ryan Sickler]

We were getting so. You know, we were using the sauna suits, and kids would tape up trash bags. And we had this guy rest his. I think he passed away. His name was Bob Hennard. Man. Shout out to Mr. Hennard. This dude was our athletic director, but he was an older guy, and he was one of these. You know, when he walked, he'd have this kind of energy. He was bubbly and whatever. He's. He was not a fool at all. But he knew how to turn a blind eye. And he would come in and there would have been a mandate that no sauna suits or trash bags were allowed to be used anymore. All this. He comes in just, you know, 20 of us arrested. Just. He's like, okay, guys. You couldn't even hear him. It's just all trash bags wrestling. I'm like, God, and we're running into saunas.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

We would put an. We. We had a wool overcoat.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

From World War II. That we would pass around and put on. And we go outside and jog to try to drop two pounds real quick. You know, just so I know. We put our bodies through hell. There's smart that your dad said. I feel like it probably stunts a lot of kids growth. Like it. You up. But you say college was.

[Greg Warren]

Once I got to college.

[Ryan Sickler]

It was.

[Greg Warren]

It was. It. It was. Because it was still. You could do anything.

[Ryan Sickler]

All right, so let me dial back for one second. Are you a state champ? Like, do you.

[Greg Warren]

Couple times. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

What? All Missouri, like, what weight class?

[Greg Warren]

I think I won it at 138 and 145 my senior year.

[Ryan Sickler]

You did?

[Greg Warren]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

What's that like?

[Greg Warren]

It was. It was good, man. It was. Yeah, man. It was one of the coolest times ever because high school's pretty fun, and college was more rewarding, I think, at the end.

[Ryan Sickler]

But it was your high school. Were they really into wrestling?

[Greg Warren]

No, they weren't. And it bums me out because I could have been, like, the really, really cool kid at a different high school, but I was just. I mean, I had a great experience.

[Ryan Sickler]

Well, we. If you were a state champ in our school, it was a big picture on the wall with your pose and your record and all this. But our one. I don't know who started it, but one of our coaches was like, enough of this. No kids come out to watch this or anything. So. You know, Vision Quest was big.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

So this coach changed my life. He told. We'll talk about it. He. He. He told Whoever, I guess Mr. Hennard, the athletic director. So when we wrestled, they would cut all the lights off.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

Pitch black. We had a bell. Someone had made, like, a little bell light. They would drop it down low over the mat, and you would just wrestle in the pitch black, in this spotlight. Let me tell you something. That gym filled up.

[Greg Warren]

Oh, man.

[Ryan Sickler]

Filled.

[Greg Warren]

That's so I.

[Ryan Sickler]

And we weren't even a big wrestling school. We were known. You know, we were known for the band.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

Our band would play like, they would win states and they would always get on the awards like, we. We just won yester. Man. I pinned this kid in six seconds. I don't get something. Clarinet's getting love right now.

[Greg Warren]

I was. I played clarinet, too. I did. I did.

[Ryan Sickler]

I know. We re. We read, bro. You're a fan of the licorice stick. I know, bro.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

Are you good at it? Can you still play?

[Greg Warren]

I could play a little. I don't play much. I picked it up. I was. You know, I. I was thinking. Yeah, I was. I was. I was good, you. And then I. I kind of gave it up.

[Ryan Sickler]

Which.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, I think I was one of those guys, like, you know those guys, like in the movies where it's like the. The football player kid that's, like, natural athlete but puts nothing into it.

[Ryan Sickler]

And I was that Bo Jacks. Not that he didn't put anything into it.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah. More like the guy like, I was shows like, the guy's got gifted but doesn't work hard and doesn't do what.

[Ryan Sickler]

He'S supposed to kick and do a flip.

[Greg Warren]

And I was that with the clarinet, you just took to it.

[Ryan Sickler]

It's like what was like, the most advanced. I didn't do anything. You could play and, like. Could you rip through a boot?

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, I could do, you know, rhapsody and Blue.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, you can do that.

[Greg Warren]

On the way up, you bend your breath and I. I can still do it, man.

[Ryan Sickler]

You can?

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

I mean, I'm you soaking those reeds and.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, man, I sound like I'm bragging and I am a little bit.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah. Listen, I can promise you this right now, bro. Nobody's ever seen sat in that seat in all the years I've done this and said I could crush the clarinet.

[Greg Warren]

Well, Ryan, just because there not a lot of guys that can't, you know, Like, I mean, as soon as class.

[Ryan Sickler]

Was over, I was like, I'm done with this. But I did clarinet, trumpet, and I wanted to do drums, but my parents were like, you're not doing drums. We're not buying a drum set. But I would. I still have. I still want to do it. I still have nervous energy. I want to learn how to put it into a rhythm.

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[Ryan Sickler]

So.

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[Greg Warren]

I was thinking about this. Nobody seemed like in band practice, like, in band class, those guys always were having the time in their life because, like, they were in the. The drummers were always, like, way in the back, and they were always, like. It was always guys and they were always, like, screwing around, you know, like, always having the. And I was like, right up front next to the band director and those Guys, it seemed like they were always having fun.

[Ryan Sickler]

Man, you're such a juxtaposition. At our school, because it was the jocks and it didn't matter what sport, the jocks, the female, too, versus the band nerds and the theater nerds. But you're the state. God damn. You're not just a wrestler. You're the wrestler. And you're playing clarinet, bro. Nobody's with your ass.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I got made fun of, but. But yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, probably from a distance. Yeah.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah. But, yeah, I don't think I knew the, you know, the. I don't think I realized that you could fight as a wrestler, you know, in college. I did, but. Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

So you win state champ twice in high school.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

And then are you scholarship. Are you recruited? Did you get to choose where you wanted? So where were your choices? What options did you have?

[Greg Warren]

Pretty much Missouri, like, some of the different schools in Missouri, I think. S. Southern Illinois, Eversville. I got a lot of letters from, like, those, like, small, private D2, D3 type schools where, you know, it's like, oh, really good academically. And I didn't really. But then I got recruited to go to West Point, the United States, and I'd wound up going there, and I did. Yeah, I went there for a year and I. I quit, Ryan.

[Ryan Sickler]

I. Yeah, Shane Gills did, too, bro.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah. Now, listen, man, I made it a lot farther than Shane did. I win a full year. I think he went for like a. I don't know.

[Ryan Sickler]

It wasn't long. It wasn't.

[Greg Warren]

I don't know. I met him briefly. Went. But I. I really. I really want to meet him because I'd love to talk to him about.

[Ryan Sickler]

Some of that stuff.

[Greg Warren]

And, yeah, I went the full year and.

[Ryan Sickler]

And you're wrestling the whole time.

[Greg Warren]

I was hurt for about a couple months of it, but, yeah, I was on the wrestling team. That's. And I remember, like, we made it through all the stuff. Like, we made it through the hazing, like, it's over. And I was like, okay, I'm done with. You know, I'm done. I don't have to do it. And we went to this meeting and we were about to go on leave for, you know, like a month, which is amazing because you're. You just. Your life is regulated. So I was looking and there we went to this meeting to talk about what we were going to do when we came back that summer. I think we're going to, like, drive tanks and all that stuff. And we. We all go to this meeting. And they. They were like, when you get back to your barracks, we're gonna have an inspection, an equipment inspection. And I remember thinking, I don't have any of that equipment. I lost it. And they're gonna. This. This yelling thing is not going to be over. They're going to yell at me about that.

[Ryan Sickler]

Like, where did you lose it?

[Greg Warren]

I don't know.

[Ryan Sickler]

You lost a gun?

[Greg Warren]

I didn't lose a gun.

[Ryan Sickler]

I did.

[Greg Warren]

I did lose the firing pin the one time. That was the worst. One of the worst experiences. I Like, what, did they just break down the weapon? You have to take apart the weapon and put it back together.

[Ryan Sickler]

What is the weapon? What are they giving?

[Greg Warren]

M16.

[Ryan Sickler]

Okay.

[Greg Warren]

M16. So you break it down and put it back together in the field. And I. I lost the firing pin.

[Ryan Sickler]

It was, like, dropped.

[Greg Warren]

And they're, like, screaming at me, like, warren, find the. But I could also tell they're screaming at me because these were upperclassmen and it wasn't like, funny fraternity. Like, you saw them as like, I'm terrified of this person, even though it's senior in college, you know, but they're screaming at you. But I could also spot, like, the fear in his eye because he knew if they didn't. If I lost that, he's gonna.

[Ryan Sickler]

He's his.

[Greg Warren]

It's coming down on him, right? So they are screaming at me, and I like, I. I cannot find it. And it's, like, in the grass. And we're all like, look around. In some miracle. After, like, 10 minutes of them, like, being like, you are.

[Ryan Sickler]

What?

[Greg Warren]

I saw the firing pin and I got it. And he was like, Good job, Mr. Warren. Good job. And I remember this guy, Cadet Costigan, he was like, not a good job, Warren. You're an idiot for losing it in the first place, you moron. You know, he's.

[Ryan Sickler]

Good job. He knows his ass.

[Greg Warren]

He was horrified.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah.

[Greg Warren]

He was terrified. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I remember screwing that up bad.

[Ryan Sickler]

So they come to check your equipment and you don't have it. What do you mean, though?

[Greg Warren]

I just. I just was on the way back, marching back. When we had the meeting, I. I just left. I decided, I'm quitting.

[Ryan Sickler]

Is that awol?

[Greg Warren]

No, I didn't leave. I just. I had to. So I go to, like, the guy, and I'm like, hey, I'm. I'm quitting. And then I have to explain to 10 more people because, you know, it's like, okay, okay.

[Ryan Sickler]

And they want to keep telling you, you gotta stay.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, and then I got to like the top guy. I was like, I'm. I'm gonna quit. And I felt like, you know, I was a kid, I felt like I was letting down my country and all this, but I also was like, I don't want to do this anymore, you know, because I. I was pretty straight arrow kid in high school, and I wanted to party and stuff too, like.

[Ryan Sickler]

You know, but are you rest. So did you get to wrestle at all in college? West Point.

[Greg Warren]

At West Point, I did. You know, I. It was not. I think it was a red shirt year.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah. So then do you still have your seniority? Like, you still a true freshman year, four years eligibility and where you go after West Point?

[Greg Warren]

Missouri. And I was, man, I was literally thinking about doing comedy. I didn't know what it was at that point, but I was like, so this. And then I got home and the Missouri coach showed up to my house like two days later and. And I was like, all right, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go to Missouri and wrestle.

[Ryan Sickler]

And what weight class do you wrestle at? Missouri?

[Greg Warren]

150. And then my senior year, I bumped up to 158.

[Ryan Sickler]

And how'd you do?

[Greg Warren]

I was good. My senior year, I made All America. My senior year I did. I got seventh in the country.

[Ryan Sickler]

Damn.

[Greg Warren]

The top eight get all American. So. Yeah, yeah. But you were telling me earlier, it's crazy. Like, the junior year, I was at the nationals and I lost.

[Ryan Sickler]

This is small world, right? This is crazy.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, I lost in the blood round. It's what they call it. It's like, if you win, you're an all American. If you lose, you go home. And it was at the University of Maryland in College park. And I was there and you were there. That's crazy.

[Ryan Sickler]

We're talking before and I say, you know, I remember it was like, it's probably. Was it. Was it 1990s, 1990? Yeah, yeah, 1990. I'm a junior. Might have been senior.

[Greg Warren]

March of 1990.

[Ryan Sickler]

Well, March 8th is my birthday, so I'm a junior in high school. And the wrestling coach is like, hey, you guys want to skip school today? I got a couple of tickets down to the University of Maryland to watch. Whole field house is where it was. Field house to watch the nationals. Wrestling. We're like, yeah. So my buddy of mine on the team, we drive down ourselves and, you know, we go watch and I probably saw you wrestle. We were there all day.

[Greg Warren]

Well, if it was during school, because I. I was out by Friday night. Friday night. I was out.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah.

[Greg Warren]

So I was wrestling Friday during the day.

[Ryan Sickler]

It's crazy. Crazy.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

You were like. I think I was wrestling in that term. Like, it would. Had to be night.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

And you lost in that one right there, or you would have been all American back to back years.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, if I would have lost that. That match that night, Friday night, I lost. Yeah. T. Don Fleischman, he's from New Mexico.

[Ryan Sickler]

And then I want to get into the food and cutting weight because I don't miss. You say it was crazy there.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

But. So I wrestled in high school, and I was mentioning to you, we were very lucky because Maryland's this really interesting part of the country where you're close to D.C. delaware, Pennsylvania, West Virginia. Jersey's close. Virgin, you know. Yeah, it's right here.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

And we had the Carr brothers. We first had Solomon Carr, and you were like, yeah, I knows. Me away. This.

[Greg Warren]

This is insane that these guys were people you worked out with.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah. So Solomon was. I think. I can't remember where he came from originally, but Erie, Pennsy. It was Pennsylvania. That's right.

[Greg Warren]

Erie, Pa.

[Ryan Sickler]

So he comes down to Maryland and he's. He. I didn't tell you this out there. So he's working as, gosh, like a counselor for trouble kids and shit, you know, but so one night, you know, we don't have parents and stuff, so he's like, I'm gonna take you guys home. I'm like, great. It's me and my brother and another kid that live on the same street, and we all wrestle, and he's taking us home. We're trying to get the. Out of the van. We're like, solomon, we can't get out. He's like, yeah, man. Bad kids can't get out. Hold on. He had to get out and let us out. We were not. We're like, this is your work, man. He's like, yeah, it's the work, man. Kids couldn't get out at all. We're like, there's no handles in here, man. Yeah. Oh, he's driving wild.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, man.

[Ryan Sickler]

Not just. He's driving wild kids that can't let themselves out. He's got to get out. He said.

[Greg Warren]

Troubled you, man?

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, I was thinking, like, trouble. No, no, no, no, no, no. They'll beat someone like that, you know, those kind of kids, so. And he's the guy to do it. You ain't with him. So we talked about it, like, this dude's body. He's like a sumo wrestler. His ass Was like from his middle of his hamstrings to the middle of his back, all like this muscle mass. And his legs, it was. It was. He was deformed and like his. He was it. Knock knee then. Yeah. Where your knees go in toed maybe. But his feet would stay flat on the fucking ground. And he was like, it's. You couldn't move him. We'd all try to get up, take a single leg, a double. He'd work out. Boom, boom, boom. So he was so good and so well known.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

Obviously, if you even know what you're doing, that right away he got a head coaching job at our rival high school, Westminster High, where this kid I'm going to tell you about, Mike Jones, would wrestle. But he was like, I'm gonna do you a solid, not just abandon you. My brother Nate Carr, who was wrestling at wvu and this Solomon's an Olympian. Pretty sure he wrestled. I think it was Solomon that wrestled him. And there's another brother too that Joe.

[Greg Warren]

Carr was an Olympian. Joe Carr was an Olympian in high school.

[Ryan Sickler]

It might have been he. He came for like a day or something.

[Greg Warren]

Nate was an Olympic gold medalist.

[Ryan Sickler]

That's right. Nate was the gold medalist. That's right. Yeah. So Nate Carr comes in and I'll never forget, dude, he's a kid still. He's in his 20s and he's walking around, he's got his jock strap on, he' his pants down, his asses out and he's just, all right, guys, let's go. We're like, what the. We loved him. He was a great guy. Funny. He was great. And he was not built like his brother. All he was like, you know, built.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah. Explosive, man.

[Ryan Sickler]

So fat. Never seen anybody fast.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

And he taught us so much. So now he's our assistant coach, you guys. And we're going and wrestling against his brother's team. So he's like, you better those guys. But they had this dude named Mike Jones. I've told this story before. This guy was so good that he would whisper what he was going to do to you before he'd do it. So there's times where psychopath, man, he said headlock, man.

[Greg Warren]

No way, man.

[Ryan Sickler]

He would go headlock and a boom hit you, but it made you stutter enough. Cuz he knew you're listening. He would go crazy. Boom. Hit you with a cradle, whispered in your ear and every dude. And it would come off like whispering that.

[Greg Warren]

No way, man.

[Ryan Sickler]

He was so good. That's where my coaches. Which is. That's it's nice to hear from a fucking state wrestler and college athlete how great they really.

[Greg Warren]

I got to.

[Ryan Sickler]

How lucky we really were. Yes, man.

[Greg Warren]

Nate's one of the greatest wrestlers in American history.

[Ryan Sickler]

That's crazy.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, Nate. Nate was. I think he's my coach in college, used to wrestle at Nate. So, like, it was the Big Eight conference back then, and this guy Kenny Monday, who was an. It was an Olympic gold medalist, and Nate and my coach were in the same weight class. Oh, yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah. And I think Nate beat Kenny in. In. In college, I think. But yeah, Nate and Kenny both went on to be Olympic gold medalist.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah.

[Greg Warren]

I mean, I've met him a couple times. I mean, he's awesome, and his son is a really good wrestler.

[Ryan Sickler]

It's just interesting to have, you know, when you're a high school athlete, because I played every damn sport. Lacrosse, baseball, basketball, wrestling, soccer. You're always seeing new coaches come in and out. So you're like, who's this guy?

[Greg Warren]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

And then when you finally get one. So now we're real. I was telling you out there, too, like, now we're realizing who Nate is, and we're like, coach, shut the up. Nate's talking. You know what I mean?

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

The coach was like, hey, man, I'm the coach.

[Greg Warren]

Well, your coach is bringing a nick car. My dad would. He had this thing. My dad was like, anybody. He would just bring these guys in all the time because he'd be like, ah, that guy says he wrestled. Get different perspective, you know? And sometimes it would be like a, you know, a guy that wrestled in college. Or sometimes you're like, dad, that's the janitor. And he's like, you don't know anything. Like, I'm this. He doesn't know. He's talking about that. And we had to act like he's an expert and be like, yeah, yeah. He's like, coach, Coach. We're calling him coach now.

[Ryan Sickler]

He just came over from the gas station.

[Greg Warren]

Like, this guy. He has no clue what he's talking about, you know?

[Ryan Sickler]

So tell me about the. The. It's got to be insane with the weight cutting and stuff in college, huh?

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, it was. It was stupid. I mean, because I think you came on right after. So when we were there, there were no rules. You could sauna suit. So we would, you know, you. If you're wrestling 150, you know, I was probably walking around. Around 165 or 160. And, you know, so you would be start. Starting about 24 hours before you would dehydrate and you just. You basically, we'd seal off the. The shot. We turn all the showers on. We put a couple of bikes in there. We put plastics on, and we'd seal off the showers with, like, a tarp.

[Ryan Sickler]

Oh, you're like riding bike in that steam.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah. And we would put on Scorpions live. And my friend Chip on her had it, like, choreographed to.

[Ryan Sickler]

You guys are doing spin class?

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, basically.

[Ryan Sickler]

Spin class, man. This is amazing right now.

[Greg Warren]

I can't believe it's spinning, bro. I'm a professional comedian. That was my life. And I never thought that that was the first spin class. And it was.

[Ryan Sickler]

Nobody was doing that.

[Greg Warren]

You're exactly right. You're right. It was spin class. So we go in there and we had it, like, choreographed. We had it, like. You'd go through, like, the first two songs, then you could go out and you. You could rest, and then you had to come in for a second. Rock you like a hurricane yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then so we. And then by the time you got through the album, like, you could. You could drop, I don't know, seven or eight.

[Ryan Sickler]

Is that right?

[Greg Warren]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

And then how long was the album? Hour.

[Greg Warren]

Hourish.

[Ryan Sickler]

So you're just pedaling and taking your breaks.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, take breaks and then you're dropping.

[Ryan Sickler]

7 or 8 pounds just there.

[Greg Warren]

But you would get to where. I remember you would get to where, like, I think at the Big Eight tournament was the worst I ever cut weight. And. And that was my junior year.

[Ryan Sickler]

And, like, when you say worst, is it the most or was it the worst time you had doing it?

[Greg Warren]

The worst time I had. Which probably meant it was the most. Like, I didn't.

[Ryan Sickler]

What is the most? You know, what you actually.

[Greg Warren]

I don't know, it was over 10, I'm sure. I know that year at the Nationals, the. The year that you saw me. So Thursday night. Thursday night.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah.

[Greg Warren]

I wrote you weigh in Wednesday. Back then you could weigh in Wednesday night for Thursday match. So you got a lot of time to kind of get. And then Thursday night, you weigh in for Friday. So Thursday night, I weighed in for Friday. You could go Friday morning. But you don't want that, because then you got to weigh in and then wrestle, you know, like, I wanted to get it. I was the last guy to make weight, but I remember they would. They said, all 150 pounders. You're released. You have two hours, basically, to before we weigh you in. And I see. And I got on the scale, and I was nine and a half over. And I made it. I made it. But it was two and a half hours. Yeah. And. And it was one of those things where basically you get to where that last pound and a half, you got nothing. You can't. You can't. I can't go back on the bike. I can't get. So you just. Basically, there's somebody with you and, like, coach, and they'll just put you in the sauna. You know, they would. They would put you in the sauna, and they come in every now with a hose and just hose you off to make sure you're alive. And we try to drink the water. Stop drinking the water. So. Yeah, man. And then you would drink. You would drink Gatorader. You know, my friend Bobby Crawford drank a Diet Coke, which is probably the worst thing.

[Ryan Sickler]

Dude, I love Diet Coke. And that is hard after dehydrated already. Like, severely dehydrated.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah. Yeah. It's probably terrible.

[Ryan Sickler]

So, you know, I. I just want to say, like, if you're cutting weight like that, what kind of energy and performance do you have left to go out there?

[Greg Warren]

And, I mean, back then, it wasn't terrible because, like, so you weigh in Thursday night, and then I saw, you know, the day that you saw me or the day that you were there. I'm wrestling Friday, but I had a full 12 hours to kind of rehydrate.

[Ryan Sickler]

Oh. So as long as you make that weight Thursday night, come Friday, even If you are 10 pounds heavier. Not weighing in again, you're go.

[Greg Warren]

You're. You're back. Now you have to weigh in Friday night. If you keep.

[Ryan Sickler]

So if. The more you go, the more you got away.

[Greg Warren]

This is all different now. Like, they got rid of it. Some kids died and. They did. Yeah. I think they died because of creatine and dehydration, but they. Some kids died, so they. Now it's like an hour.

[Ryan Sickler]

Did you have problems with it, this cutting weight and stuff and all that?

[Greg Warren]

I mean, I think I have problems.

[Ryan Sickler]

Now because of it. Yeah.

[Greg Warren]

I don't know if, like, health. Like, I. I have an unhealthy relationship with food.

[Ryan Sickler]

Tell me about it. Me, too, bro.

[Greg Warren]

Do you.

[Ryan Sickler]

You know, I. I love to eat my feelings.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

Okay. And I also. I. If I'm bored, I like to eat.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

If I'm sad, let's eat some.

[Greg Warren]

There you go.

[Ryan Sickler]

If I'm happy, let's celebrate.

[Greg Warren]

E. Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

I definitely have an unhealthy relationship.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, man. You said you covered most of them, but. Yeah, I think it's like, bored, sad. I've had some mental stuff with, like, guilt, you know, and I, I. It was funny. I was living out here probably early 2006 or something, and I. And I realized I was. The binge eating had just gotten out of control, you know, and I would, I would just binge. And I think part of it was some. I didn't know that I had some, like, I found a lot later I had some OCD guilt type stuff, but I would just be, like, freaking out about it, and I just, I just eat. And it's also, you're trying to get started in comedy and, you know, or I'm out here and I got a little bit of heat and you're. You're up and down 10 times, and you just saw, you know, like, a lot of. It's, It's a much more boring story than the guys that have real drug problems. You know, those guys did cool stuff, but I just went to Jack in the Box or whatever.

[Ryan Sickler]

And what would be an order for you?

[Greg Warren]

Well, I know.

[Ryan Sickler]

Be honest.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, man.

[Ryan Sickler]

First of all, how big are you? You're what, six? What? You're tall?

[Greg Warren]

No, no, man, I'm. I'm five, nine, man.

[Ryan Sickler]

Are you?

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

I'm not taller than you.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, you are.

[Ryan Sickler]

I got an inch on you.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, you got an inch. You're taller than me, man. I've seen you, man. So I'm. But I remember I would go to Jack in the Box, and then when it really. I would go get that Oreo ice cream was coming out back then.

[Ryan Sickler]

And then the sweets. Huh?

[Greg Warren]

But then I would get. I didn't, at one point, I didn't think that one of them was enough. And I. And I also didn't feel that they put enough Oreos into the ice cream. So I get Oreos, and then I would get a package of Oreos to put in there to supplement. I remember I was at a checkout thing. One of them was like, hey, man, you know there's Oreos.

[Ryan Sickler]

Like.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, I know, man. Like, I. I know. So I'm doing all this and I finally realized, like, I should put those.

[Ryan Sickler]

Oreos in the Oreos.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, I know, I know. Yeah, I do. Watch your own business because. Because this is a project that I'm working on.

[Ryan Sickler]

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[Greg Warren]

But I went to see somebody in la, in the Valley.

[Ryan Sickler]

Why? What got to you? Was it your weight? Like, did you step on a scale? Like, what was.

[Greg Warren]

No, I was never terribly overweight. I just. Because I could work it off, you know.

[Ryan Sickler]

But so it made you go to see somebody to say, I think some.

[Greg Warren]

Level of depression and then some level. And just knowing the binge thing was out of control, you know. So I go into this guy in the Valley and, and you know, it was through insurance, which, if you're gonna go see a therapist, don't go through insurance. Those guys. He was a nice guy. So I'm sitting there, I'm telling him, I'm like, I've never been to therapy before. And I'm telling him about, like, yeah, man, I, you know, I, I eat cookies and stuff, you know, and he's, he's, he's, he falls asleep. Yeah, dude. The dude fell asleep. Fell asleep. And I'm telling my, and then, and I, he catches himself falling asleep. He goes, hey, man, I'm really sorry. He goes, I was up with a suicidal patient last night in the, in the hospital.

[Ryan Sickler]

I'm like, but tell me again how much you like Oreos.

[Greg Warren]

I know, exactly. I go, yeah, man. I, I just like, what? I'm a grown man in here talking about eating cookies and there's some poor guy. That's good, that's.

[Ryan Sickler]

You Know the I've heard today.

[Greg Warren]

I'm like, I. I gotta go, man. I don't want to do this. I don't want to go talk about. I. I'm here telling cookie stories. I bought him to death with my stupid cookie stories story. Since then, Ryan, I have punched it up a little bit. Like, I can get. Like, I've punched up the cookie store. Yeah, it was. This guy fell asleep, and that's when I was like. It was one of those. I was like, man, this is pathetic. And I didn't go anymore.

[Ryan Sickler]

And then I had a therapist one time, and I'm in the middle of giving him my SOB and the dude starts eating, and I stopped him right there, and I go, hey, this is my time right now. What are you doing? He's like, I'm eating. I go, you don't schedule time for yourself to eat? He goes, I guess not. I go, do it on someone else's time. It doesn't care. Like, bro, I'm sitting here talking. I don't want to hear you chew your celery. And yeah, you know what? He called himself one and he never did.

[Greg Warren]

He really?

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, I went and saw him for two years. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Weekly for a couple years. And he. He brought it up to me, too. Because you're 100 right about that. I go, how would you feel if I'm coming in here crying? And I'm just like, is that right? Oh, yeah. Picking your teeth at you. Well, you know what you need?

[Greg Warren]

I. I remember one time. This is before, because I've been a three or four therapists or whatever, but all for this. It. No, I'll tell you what, it. But this, the cookie thing was the first time I started going.

[Ryan Sickler]

I mean, what a shitty start.

[Greg Warren]

Do you know that thing? I remember one time, it was in Houston, Texas, and I was working the laptop, and it was like, I ate. I went on a binge, like that night, and I ate a bunch of cookies, you know, and whatever. And then there's, like, the stuff still sitting in the car, and I was like, I'm going to the gym. It's new leaf, you know, So I get. I go. I drive the gym, and I have eat a couple of the cookies, and I'm like, I. I don't want to go to the gym, you know? And then I remember somebody telling me, like, when you don't want to go into the gym, you go in, you get on the bike, or you, whatever you're doing, start riding. If. If three minutes later, you don't want to go. Just. Just leave, you know? So I go in, I change, I get. I get on the bike and. And I start riding. And about 30 seconds, I'm like, nope. And I just. I go back down to the locker room, I get my clothes, I go into the car, I eat all those cookies. You did? I had them all just sitting in the parking lot.

[Ryan Sickler]

Do you go back into the gym?

[Greg Warren]

No, no, no, it was over. No, once. Once I go, it's over. There's nothing pigeon or, you know, laying. Like, it's done. There's nothing. So I. If it's that kind of eating. And yet I remember, like, some woman, like, walking by the parking lot looking in, and she.

[Ryan Sickler]

We were just house and cookies, just.

[Greg Warren]

Housing in the gym, parking lot. Yeah. And. And she's. She looks at me, and she just had this level of understanding. I could tell she was like. She was like, yeah, man, I've been there. She was kind of overweight, too, so I think she kind of looked at me like. Like, yeah, yeah, I understand what you're going through. She got in. But. So, yeah, I think I went a couple more times, but I. I stuck. I did go and find out I had this thing that was like. It's called scrupulosity ocd. It's like feeling guilty about stuff sometimes about stuff you didn't even do, you know?

[Ryan Sickler]

Can you give me an example what you would go through? Like, is there anything you actually felt guilty that you didn't do?

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, man. I mean, I'll give you some of the more tamer examples, because I'm not sure. Like, I remember as a kid, like, thinking, there's, like, my brother's truck, bro. And I was like, I mean, he's a little kid. And I was like, I broke it, you know, like, just because I remember in my mind thinking, like, no, I remember thinking, like, maybe I did. Like, maybe I accidentally broke it or maybe I broke it. I didn't know, but I don't. I can't prove to myself that I didn't. I can't know for sure because it's in the past. So I'm just going to say that I did and take the. And that got into, like, you know, later in life, I just would obsess. I'd just be like, did I do that horrible thing? You know, if I saw some. Was reading a book about somebody that did something terrible, you know, or watching TV about somebody that's like, I. I would. And I think I just.

[Ryan Sickler]

Let me. I just want to be clear. I'm sorry. Then you would think to yourself, not that I. Did I do this, but did I do this to someone in my life? Yes, I got you.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah. Yeah. Did I do something like that? Am I capable?

[Ryan Sickler]

Have I ever done something like that?

[Greg Warren]

I've ever.

[Ryan Sickler]

Where's that? Why? What do you think that comes from?

[Greg Warren]

It's a form of ocd. I didn't get that. It was. And I think part of the eating binging was like, that's how I dealt with. I'd be like, I might be a criminal. And then I just would. Life's over. And just. I know it sounds. It doesn't sound reasonable now, but yeah, just go eat a bunch of Ding Dongs or whatever. And. And yeah, and I went to. I wound up seeing this. This guy. I kind of, you know, just an average checkup. Some guy was like, how you doing, man? I'm like, yeah. I was sort of from that. Like, you're fine. You know, like, walk it off. Yeah, I'm fine. What am. I'm fine.

[Ryan Sickler]

I'm a guy.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

I come from a. How are you doing? Yeah, I'm good.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

No one says, how you feeling? And if I feel like if more people to ask that question growing up, I would understand a little more to say, well, I don't feel anxious about this and scared about that, but. But also I come from the world that you do. Like. Like, nobody gives a. How you doing? I'm good. And I just move on.

[Greg Warren]

First of all, that's rough, man, what you're saying. And like, I do need to say, like, I. I had parents that did care about my feelings like that, you know, like that. But I do also think maybe it was just part of being a man or just an athletics were like, yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

Don'T be a yeah, you're fine, man.

[Greg Warren]

And then. And also, like, I looked. I think you tend to be like, man, my life's pretty good right now. I'm telling jokes for a living. And I'm. I'm like, I'm not starving, obviously, but I'm.

[Ryan Sickler]

What that you just said, right? There is a thing for me too with food. Like, nothing made me feel safer and more secure going to bed with a full belly.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

It was always, I'm gonna wake up tomorrow and not be starving. I'm not homeless tonight. I'm not starving tonight. Like, I always had that fear, like, am I going to be able to eat tonight? So I love to eat late. And as a comic, we do anyway. I love. I know I can't anymore. I used to love to eat. Eat late.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

Oh, God, Give me a pizza.

[Greg Warren]

I'll.

[Ryan Sickler]

The whole pizza, whole thing. No problem.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

I won't eat the crust 15 minutes later.

[Greg Warren]

But you order one and pass out and then.

[Ryan Sickler]

What do you mean you're waiting on it?

[Greg Warren]

When I was drinking, you know, poor pizza guys there and. Yeah, we. Yeah. So anyways, like, this. This guy kind of told me, like, this doctor is like, are you. Maybe you're depressed? I'm like, yeah, maybe he goes, talk to this person we have on staff. And she was like, explaining what's going on. I did not want to talk about it. And I, you know, started telling her some of the details and she's like, oh, this is. This is a form of ocd, man. This is just. Trust me. Like, this is. Let me go find you. So they found me, this guy, and I walked in, he was like, yeah, dude, this is called scrupulosity. Ocd. It's a thing.

[Ryan Sickler]

And you know, isn't it amazing, too? Like, once you go seek knowledge and you're just suffering so much and there's people out there that can just, oh, it's this.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, he knew right away.

[Ryan Sickler]

Right away. So what's the. How do you work on that? Is that a medication thing or is that a mind over matter? Is it a awareness? And try to work on not letting yourself do that?

[Greg Warren]

Well, I choose to ignore it. And that's why. Push it down. Push it down. Yeah, yeah. No, I've been like, there's some true. It's like exposures is one way to do it where it's like, do. Do you, like, if. If you're afraid that you left the. The heater on or you left the stove on or whatever, if you. If you left the stove on or something and. Or your gas stove on, there's a lot of people with ocd. They're like, I left the gas stove. I got to go back and check. And they go back and they check 80 times. I get. Some of the treatment is like, well, just expose your fact that maybe the house is going to just have to burn down. You know, like, that's like you. You. You consider that extreme, and it does sort of desensitize you. So with me, it was like, okay, you think that you might have done this thing. Let's just say you did. And what's that world like? You know? You know, it's scary and awful and I feel like, you know, but for some, when you do sort of sit with it for a while it becomes a little less real or it becomes a you. I have done some of the stuff I'm supposed to do. I should probably do more, but I've done some of it. And it definitely. I. I know how to deal with it. When I start freaking out about stuff I still don't exactly. I still. I've gone through periods where I'm not, I'm not. I'm eating completely healthy in the way you're supposed to for almost like years. And then I still. Every now and then, like I've had a bad run of stuff in the, in the last few months I've been like that.

[Ryan Sickler]

I watched the Rock follow him and he'll be like, cheat day. And I'm like, yeah man, I'm gonna have a cheat day. And then I'm like, the rock's burning 40, 000 calories a day, six days a week. Ryan.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, it's. But man, when I go, it's all. And it's always in a convenience store.

[Ryan Sickler]

Oh is it? It's never at like a sushi spot where you just get sick. It's always. Is it junk food?

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, it's junk food.

[Ryan Sickler]

Junk food.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah. Because I eat pretty healthy when I'm not doing. Yeah, but it's like junk food upon junk food and then that, you know, the.

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[Greg Warren]

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[Greg Warren]

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[Ryan Sickler]

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[Greg Warren]

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[Ryan Sickler]

That now you can just deliver.

[Greg Warren]

It's also, like, what we do. Sometimes you come back on a Sunday from the road and you just, like, sit down and, like, I'm not moving. And then I'm just. I'm not. And then I. Yeah, and then it gets. Yeah, it's. It's pathetic, man.

[Ryan Sickler]

But, I mean, I've had my battles with ocd, too. I. I remember, like, I used to live with my grandmother, and she had a remote control, and it just had the, like. It was like rubber. Little pads for the numbers.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

You know?

[Greg Warren]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

And there was always a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. Then some other ones at the bottom. And I would just run my fingers across. Across them and count by three in my head.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

And it go fours across.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

I got so good counting by threes in my head. And then I would notice that I'd go up the stairs, and I'd either try to go two at a time and count how many they were, and. Oh, man. And then I would hear a word in my head, and I would have to say it in my head, and I'd break it down. I would do this weird thing where I would start on this index finger. Let's say you said bicycle. I go bicycle, bicycle, bicycle, bicycle, bicycle, bicycle, until I hit the one syllables.

[Greg Warren]

Until you hit one again. Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

And then I was like, we gotta check in on this. I know there's a lot of trauma, and. Because I'm. It's right after my dad dies or living with my grandmother, and she.

[Greg Warren]

So that's what it was for sure. Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

And I would go down to the basement, bro, I'm not kidding you. Six times a night to check that goddamn door. Because I did not want to be murdered. I remember one time, my grandmother, I came upstairs, she's like, ryan, she lived in the house for, like, 40 years. She goes, I. I've never felt safer and slept better in my home. I see you go down. I go, grandma, that shit's gonna be locked. I promise it's gonna be locked. Stay. Coming in through that way.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah. She loved it.

[Ryan Sickler]

Don't go get that fish. Yeah, don't go get that fish.

[Greg Warren]

She was like. She was like this. Probably, this is a good thing you're doing.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah. I remember having to talk it out and be like, what's going on? And you realize all. You know.

[Greg Warren]

It'S funny you said, sorry to interrupt him. I remember as a kid doing, like, everything had to be, even this Is when I was the craziest and I haven't talked.

[Ryan Sickler]

What do you mean everything? Like, what are you doing? What had to be your steps.

[Greg Warren]

Yes, steps. It had to be twos. Fours. Yeah. But this is the craziest thing that I remember. I had an ice cream cone and the cone fell off. The ice cream fell off the cone. One on the floor, and I got it back up and I had. There. And then I did it again to. Because.

[Ryan Sickler]

Because you had to do twice.

[Greg Warren]

2.

[Ryan Sickler]

Even though it was a bad thing.

[Greg Warren]

And I was with my friend Ted Ruger, and he's like, what are you doing?

[Ryan Sickler]

No, that's it. I never thought of doing something negative twice.

[Greg Warren]

I just felt like this com. It's a compulsion. Yeah, man. Luckily, you know, that would have been a. Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

Terrible.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

Is that right? You dumped it again intentionally the second time? Because it happened once.

[Greg Warren]

I bet you I was in middle school at that time. Whatever. Yeah. I mean, that's insanity.

[Ryan Sickler]

Would you do that with any of, like, your work, your homework, or.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, yeah, I do remember that.

[Ryan Sickler]

Like, I think it helped me be a good student because I would memorize. I'd. You know, back then, the teachers were lazy in a way, too. Where they weren't. It was just a. Memorize it. Here it is on the test.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

You know, it wasn't a really. Did you learn so much?

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, yeah, I was able to game that a little bit.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, exactly.

[Greg Warren]

In college, I was like. I'm like, I'm not going to class. I'm too tired from. But I would just like. And then I would just practice. Memorize it.

[Ryan Sickler]

I would learn to. I'm like, does this professor. This guy made me buy his book. Okay. We're going to be going by this book. I know everything I need to know is going to be found in this book. Book. You know, that's the guy. Like, we don't need to go to his class. It's all gonna be in the book.

[Greg Warren]

You understood the hustle, ego and arrogance at that point where it's like, well, if he wrote a book, he's probably.

[Ryan Sickler]

I gotta pay this much money for your book. It's all coming out of this book, probably. Why would you want me to learn anything else? You wrote a book. Yeah, Teacher didn't write a book. I'm gonna be doing. I'm gonna memorize your.

[Greg Warren]

They would. Memorization was a big part of West Point. Like, we'd stand in formation, you know, four times a day, and they come in, they'd Be like, what's in the New York Times? And. And. Or what's in the news? And you would have to say it. You'd be like, sir, today in the New York Times, it was reported that, you know, and then you'd have to basically. Or what else? Like, you had to know the front page. You could. You had to be able to be conversant on the front page of the New York Times and the front page of the New York Times sports page and sports, too. Yeah, yeah. Which for me, that was like, kind of easy. I'm like, yeah, they, you know, whatever.

[Ryan Sickler]

Would you be comfortable talking about your mom passing?

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, man. Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

Were your parents still married?

[Greg Warren]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

They've been together all the time.

[Greg Warren]

A fantastic marriage.

[Ryan Sickler]

How's your dad right now?

[Greg Warren]

He's okay.

[Ryan Sickler]

How old is he?

[Greg Warren]

He's 80. He's remarried. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

Do you like this lady?

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, I love her. Yeah. Yeah. I love.

[Ryan Sickler]

He's happy and.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

How old she.

[Greg Warren]

Probably the same age. Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

Okay.

[Greg Warren]

They were. She was a neighbor and then moved away.

[Ryan Sickler]

And then how old was he when he got married? Remarried? Married.

[Greg Warren]

That was just a couple years ago.

[Ryan Sickler]

Wow.

[Greg Warren]

So my mom had been gone for about three years and they started, you know, just, you know, they're 75 or whatever. They started hanging out and. And, yeah, and then they got married, so. And it's, you know, I think it's elongated his life and it makes me certainly worry less about him.

[Ryan Sickler]

He's got somebody.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah. When he lost. When he lost my. I think he was shocked. My mother. I think he was shocked that my mom went before he did. And that really was hard on all of us. But I meant for him. I think he just. He was in shock for a year, you know, that he.

[Ryan Sickler]

Did you see. Did you know this was coming? Was it something. She was sick or.

[Greg Warren]

It was cancer. And it was, you know, she first told me about. Discovered it in the, like, probably May, June of 2015 and went through treatment. By November, they told us she was, you know, in remission. And then it came back, and then over Christmas it started looking mad, and she was gone by February the next year, you know. And how old was she? She was 72.

[Ryan Sickler]

What kind of cancer?

[Greg Warren]

Oh, very 70. Ovarian. I think it originated there. It was.

[Ryan Sickler]

Were you there? Were you able to say goodbye?

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, Yeah, I was. I was living in New York and I was not sure I was going to stay in New York, but I had about another six, seven months on my lease and I was going back and forth during the treatment. And then I was. I was thinking I was going to, like, I think it was maybe June the following year. I had a lease till. And I was like, okay, I'll stay out there and just ride it out and then maybe come back or do something differently. And I came home around Christmas and things were bad. And I. My roommate, Ryan Beck, comic, I go, hey, man, I'm not coming back. I'm staying here. I'm not. I'm not. I'm staying in St. Louis, and I want to be with my dad. And he. I was like, I'll pay. He was younger, and I was like, I'll pay you just drive all my stuff out. And so I never. Never went back.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah.

[Greg Warren]

And I just. I wanted to be with her for as much time as I had, and I. It made me realize I didn't want to be away from my family that much anymore. I'm pretty close with them.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah. Yeah. So then you go back to St. Louis, you stay there and you start doing. Diving into comedy there.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, I mean, I was already at that point. I mean, this was. This was not that long ago. So I was.

[Ryan Sickler]

But I mean, in the St. Louis community, did you come up there already before you went to New York?

[Greg Warren]

I came up in a few places. I came up starting in Houston, then Cincinnati, but I was always living in Saint. You know, I was always come back to St. Louis. So at that time, I'm a headliner. You know, St. Louis is a market where I sold a bunch of tickets. So when I was really close with the guys, the Funny Bone and I. A lot of my friends were there, and so it was easy for me to come back in that scene. And I was still, even when I came back St. Louis. That's part of why it was easy to move. Like, it was at that stage where I'm working 45 weeks a year on the road, so it's like, it doesn't so match me matter where you live. And it was a much. I love New York and I love the. Especially the comics I met there, but it's a chaotic situation. So you're going from the chaos of the road right back into the chaos of New York. And then I was like, I'd rather be around family in between the road gigs. So it was. It was easy. Yeah, that part of it was.

[Ryan Sickler]

Did you have any good conversations with your mom before she passed and did she ever get to see you perform?

[Greg Warren]

Oh, yeah, man. Okay. My mother was. My mother was awesome, man. My mother was a writer oh, she was. Yeah. Yeah, she was. She had a. She reviewed books for the St. Louis Post Dispatch for about 15, 20 years. And then she had a column in this paper called the Kirkwood Webster Times, which is sort of a suburban paper. It was a humor column. And I go back and read it. You know, I was.

[Ryan Sickler]

I was going to ask you, do you have any of her.

[Greg Warren]

Have all of them. Them. All of them, yeah. And I.

[Ryan Sickler]

That crush it or read those. No, I mean, emotional thinking about.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, I mean. I mean, I get tears in my eyes usually when I read one, but I also am like, it's such a cool thing to have. And I also feel like such a dirt. I was so into my own life that I didn't read them when she was alive. And my mother was extremely brilliant writer, you know, and it's not what we do. It's funny. They're very funny, but it's not where we have to be this. You know, it's more just. She's making a point. And she's also funny with. Within the point, you know. So, yeah, I try to post one every Mother's Day and on her birthday, on. Because social media.

[Ryan Sickler]

I wanted to ask you how you keep her memory alive.

[Greg Warren]

Social media is good for some things, you know, I mean, and that it's kind of cool where I'm like.

[Ryan Sickler]

You.

[Greg Warren]

Know, she was a local paper and a lot of people loved what she. They loved her column. The people that I. I still see people today out in the community, like, man, I loved your mom's.

[Ryan Sickler]

Is that right?

[Greg Warren]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

That's nice.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah. But now, you know, we have all these followers and I just put it on social media. Like, a ton of people can see it, and. And people love it, and it's a lot of. It's really cool. She. She was. She was a really, really great writer, and she was. She was very, very supportive. My dad was supportive, too. A little harder on me in some ways, but also supportive. But my mother, like. Like when I quit my job to do comedy, my dad was not.

[Ryan Sickler]

What was the job you quit?

[Greg Warren]

It was a good job. I worked for Procter and Gamble. I was in sales. I sold Jiff and Pringles and, yeah, Duncan Hines and, like, I was making a bunch of money. My dad was, like, not happy, but still supportive. Eventually. My mother was all for it right away and, you know, was very, very happy for me.

[Ryan Sickler]

Do you guys have any good conversations before she passed that really stood out?

[Greg Warren]

I remember. God, I remember a lot of. I remember she was in the Hospital for a long time. And then they were like, hey, she's gonna go home for hospice. Like, you know, And I remember.

[Ryan Sickler]

So she did get to come home.

[Greg Warren]

She did get to come home. And she called me and I. And I still feel bad that I wasn't there already, but she was like, could you come here? And I was like, yes. And I got. Got down there and I rode home with her in the ambulance, you know. And once she got home, she was much happier. I mean, I just. Much more at peace when she was in her house. She's just so sick of being in that stupid hospital for all that time. But. So I. I definitely remember that. And we talked a lot. I. I mean, I remember. This is interesting. I made her watch. I do. My mom read everything. Everything. Like she was. She read all the time. She reviewed books. She was an English major. She didn't watch a lot of tv. She didn't really care for tv. But I remember it was hard for her to read, I think, towards the end. So I. And she was terrible with technology. Like, she could not have figured out. So I got her like one of those old school, just a little pop up, put the disc in and. And it plays. And I got her that. And she watched.

[Ryan Sickler]

Just listen, just.

[Greg Warren]

She just walked. No, she. No, not. It was actual. She would watch TV shows.

[Ryan Sickler]

Oh.

[Greg Warren]

So she got into it and I remember, I think it was Modern Family. She really loved it. Er. She really like, Like, I'm, you know, I'm Watched a bunch of tv. I was like, we'll try this. Maybe Larry Sanders. I think she. She. Yeah, I think she. I think she. Yeah, I think she liked it. But yeah, we. We talked about that. And then I made her watch this Eagles. It was the Eagles documentary, you know, in the band. Yeah. And I never really watched music documentaries, so I thought when I. The first time I saw. I was like, this is amazing. They talk about. This is like. They weave the lyrics of the song into how they figured out. And like, that's. Yeah, dummy. That's what every music documentary does, you know? And I was just so like. And I remember, I'm like, why is the. One of the last things I made my mom watch was this thing. And we watched it together. And she was like, yeah, I think she was saying, like, she was like, it's good. But in her own way, she was like, yeah. And she liked the Eagles.

[Ryan Sickler]

I ain't getting that hour.

[Greg Warren]

She basically said. And Glenn Fry is a little arrogant, isn't he? She basically was like, she. And she was dead on the money. Like they, he was, he was like, like, he's like a little, he's a little self congratulatory, like in her way. And I'm like, like, God, this, I'm making my mom watch this dumb thing. But man, I, and then I remember Bob Dylan. I remember playing that. I think it was a, we played, I think I played like a Bob Dylan album or something or what. And my mother was very into music and I could just tell it affected her. So I remember sharing that moment, like so emotional, you know, at that point. And yeah, like, it really, really affected.

[Ryan Sickler]

It took her somewhere.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah. Yeah. And honestly, at that point, my mom was on some pretty heavy pain meds, I would imagine too. But I remember that was a moment of like. Yeah, but yeah, she got the pass.

[Ryan Sickler]

In your home around her family then. Yeah, she, she ultimately like she died.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah. I was at my brother's house and you know, my dad called us that night. We knew it was coming and we, Yeah, I remember going on a. Me and my brother Matt took her for a walk. She was in a, I think she was in a wheelchair or something. We took her for a walk maybe the day that she got home from, from the hospital and we took her for a walk and, and that was, that was a great, those really cool. I could just tell she was, she was really happy to be out and not in that hospital and walking with her two sons. But then I don't, man, you know, you just, I, I was, I was really, really lucky. I know, I know when you were, you know, the theme of the podcast is some of your low moments. And a lot of people, I think their low moments are like, you know, they come from screwed up family situations. And I didn't have that at all. Like, and I think it's fun, funny for me, something to talk about. My father was a wrestling coach and did push me anyway. They did. You know, but like, in my opinion, there was always a line where it was like he didn't cross. It was like, you know, I'm pushing you hard. I'm pushing it. But if he did cross it, he was immediate, like, you know, I love you and this is not as important as that, you know.

[Ryan Sickler]

Right.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, so am I. So, yeah, man, I, I, And I do remember telling my mom that, like, I remember telling her like, how that's you should tell people more stuff. And I remember telling her, like, oh, God. I, I think I was in a, some, I had a friend or somebody that was struggling and I was like, man, they did, mom, they had a terrible childhood and I did not. And I'm. Thank you for that.

[Ryan Sickler]

That's nice. You got to say that.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, I did. You know, for you. Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

You're also old enough to understand that. And especially when you get into comedy, you're like, Jesus Christ.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, man. Some of my friends went through. They went through. Well, it sounds like you lost your, you know.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, my mom was gone, my dad died. We were 16 and it's over after that.

[Greg Warren]

That. Yeah, that's. That's.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah. And I still remember. It's nice you. Because I have friends whose parents are still together and stuff now and they, they should be like, hey, thank you for a solid childhood here.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, I got lucky, man. You know, and my dad's still alive and he's 80 and he's pretty strong, man.

[Ryan Sickler]

And you know, does he ever still with your wrestlings? You ever come by me ever act like he's gonna grab you?

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

Hell yeah.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah. Yeah. He's still strong as an oxygen too, man. Like, he's got some. Played some football back when. When you played football didn't treat your injuries the way they should, you know, just give you a shot and say, go back. Yeah, he told me there's a lot of that, you know, but. So he's got some. It's. He's got some back pain, but, man, if he grabs you, you grab his shoulder, you're like, good God, man. My dad is. He's strong as still.

[Ryan Sickler]

Solid.

[Greg Warren]

Real solid, man. Yeah, yeah, real solid. It.

[Ryan Sickler]

This is a great episode. Thank you for coming on.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, man. Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

Before we wrap up, I'm going to ask you advice you give to your 16 year old self.

[Greg Warren]

Nothing is permanent. I think would be the advice that I would give myself. Like, it's. It's whatever this situ. Whatever this thing that seems like it's the most important thing or the thing that you failed at, just go try again. Or just like things change and they usually have a way of working themselves out. I don't want to steal from somebody, but you know the comedian Gary Goleman.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, of course.

[Greg Warren]

Is one of my favorite comics. But I've heard him say. I think he said it. It might have been in a bit, but he said somewhere he's like, he's like, you know that Eminem's like, you only got one shot. You know, he's like, in show business you have so many shots. And Gary Goleman, by the way, go see, he's. He's great. But I do think, like, especially. And Maybe that wasn't 6, 16 year old self, but you just. You're going to have so many runs at doing different things and it's. It's never over, right? Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

That's great.

[Greg Warren]

It's never over. Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

Thank you again.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, thanks, man.

[Ryan Sickler]

Promote whatever you'd like one more time. You're special. All of it, please.

[Greg Warren]

Oh, yeah. The special is called the Champ and it's on. It's on YouTube if you Google it. It's. It's not the movie with Ricky Schroeder and Jon Voight.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude, that movie. That's the first one. I don't know which came first, either Champ or Black Stallion.

[Greg Warren]

Oh, Black.

[Ryan Sickler]

Both of them made me cry.

[Greg Warren]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

Trying to remember which one came first, man.

[Greg Warren]

It's funny. We're talking about.

[Ryan Sickler]

I sobbed at little Ricky Schroeder. Wake up, Champ. Oh, God. I remember seeing that in the first time. I'm like, what's happening inside me? And that's like, I'm that age right there. What the. Yeah, the Champ.

[Greg Warren]

Black style. I watched Black Stallion in the movies with my mom and dad.

[Ryan Sickler]

Do you know I just went on YouTube the other night, put it on my TV. I fast forward all the way today, that race and that little kid throws. Listen, I don't know who that kid is, but I'm looking at it. It looks like he really is riding that horse. And that horse is hauling ass. And I'm in. I'm in my house, like, yeah, he threw that mask off and I'm like, oh, get it, get it.

[AMPM Advertiser]

Goddamn.

[Ryan Sickler]

I ain't gonna watch Black Sty. I just watched the. You know, the race is so good, the buildup. Yeah, man. Thank you, thank you.

[Greg Warren]

Oh, it's great to see you, man. Yes, it was awesome, dude.

[Ryan Sickler]

And as always, thank you guys as well. Ryan Sickler on all your social media. We'll talk to you all next, next week.