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The Human Upgrade: Biohacking for Longevity & Performance
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Dr. Steven Greer
When I was 17 I got deathly ill and had a near death experience. And when I had the near death experience I literally experienced the full on cosmic and unity consciousness. When I passed on When I was 8 years old I saw a UFO so I thought it bright deer but it came over and it touched me on my right shoulder. I met my wife in a precognitive lucid dream. So I've had these my whole life and I think if you talk to native peoples around the world, these capabilities and consciousness are very commonplace. Everyone listening right now is conscious. Well, just. It's sort of a Zen process. But remove everything that you are conscious of, even yourself, your ego, and just look at the consciousness, the field of consciousness. That's what you need to experience in as pure a form as possible.
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Dave Asprey
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Dave Asprey
to be a really fun episode because we're going to talk about something that you probably don't know about me. My mom's side of the family is from Roswell, New Mexico. In fact, my grandmother dated the best friend of the guy who found the, well, whatever it was. And we maybe get to the bottom of that in this episode because even though this is a show about longevity and biohacking and consciousness, part of the consciousness exploration is just curiosity and it's knowing, well, what does science say might be out there that the narrative says isn't real? And if you don't think that there are narratives that are just plain intentionally wrong, may I just point you to Covid? So there's that maybe the recent episode with Peter McCullough. So I will say I'm open minded to these things. I also have some questions. So I found none other than a guy I followed for years who's quite interesting, who spent 35 years researching UFOs, UAPs, extraterrestrial intelligence, and the disclosure, or lack of it, by our government. He's a retired emergency physician and founder of the center for the Study of Extraterrestrial Intelligence, if I can say that right, none other than Dr. Steven Greer. Dr. Greer, welcome to the show.
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Dr. Steven Greer
Good to meet you.
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Dave Asprey
What makes you think that non human intelligence is already interacting with us?
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Dr. Steven Greer
Well, we have overwhelming evidence for one thing. I mean, I'm a scientist and I don't do this based on Ouija boards or what have you. And you know, my project has over 750 whistleblowers who have directly handled the issue, including Delta Force and other folks who've handled the craft, handled the dead bodies they call biologicals, et cetera and so on. So all of this is beginning to come out through some congressional activities and hearings that we've been pushing for since the mid-90s. And of course, the White House has just set up an operation to release some of the files. But it's a very complex story. And by the way, the foundation of everything I'm doing with this is the study of consciousness. And let me connect a quick dot for your viewers. And actually, I knew this, but from an experience I had when I was 18 with an extraterrestrial spacecraft and its occupants. And their technologies are think of conscious field nonlocality, like quantum entanglement. And I'm not talking about what you're conscious of, I'm talking about consciousness itself. And civilizations that are interstellar, people are confused as being interdimensional, but in reality, they're extraterrestrial, originating from another star system. But they're using technologies that interface with quantum entangled fields both for communication and travel. So you're talking a teleportation level on a macro level, and you're talking about, in terms of consciousness communication systems. So, like, you and I are talking on a circa 1844 radio frequency device that's a little more souped up than what they had with the first telegraph signal in 1844, but it's essentially the same thing. It's propagating through the vacuum at the speed of light, which is 186,000 miles per second. Now, when you're dealing with interstellar distances, that won't work because it's too far. And so what happens is that any civilization that becomes interstellar has become trans dimensional, and their communication technologies are actually interfacing with the ultimate quantum entangled field, which is non local consciousness, or the consciousness field that has an interface with these devices. So in other words, you can think without wires, the speed of thought and consciousness to a physical device, and it receives and transmits, and it's transmitting through that same field, but in certain frequencies. So this we've known for a very long time. And so the field of consciousness is actually going to be, in studies of consciousness, once this is fully and truthfully disclosed, will be a mass accelerator for it. It will actually create a massive alteration in our understanding of the cosmos, our own consciousness, and the, let's call it the quantum conscious field or cosmic conscious field. So, and just a little note about myself. Before I was a emergency and trauma doctor, I was a meditation teacher, and I studied the Vedas and the ancient teachings about consciousness and higher states of consciousness. And we're actually going to do an event here in Virginia, July 24th, 25th and 26th. It's going to be all centered in consciousness and contact with these civilizations and how that works and how their systems work and what we can do to do that. We actually have a training app for it called CE5 contact that people can get. And that is a whole course in remote viewing consciousness and what the technologies are that these non human civilizations have that enable us to actually achieve contact and have sightings and contact occur. But going back to the disclosure effort, I actually got involved with that accidentally. And to make a long, long story short, in 1992, I had a CE CE5 Contact team. And that's the name of the app, CE5 Contact. I see a CE5, if you go to see the movie Close Encounters of the fifth Kind that's on Amazon, is when humans initiate contact with non human civilizations. And as opposed to just shooting them down out of the sky with a directional energy weapon, which is what the military is doing. And we're sort of a peace ambassador group, which is what we'll be doing here in Virginia. And it's open to the public. Anyone can come who'd like, but it'd be fun if you came, actually. And so that's what we're working on. But it happened because I was actually on a beach in Florida and we were doing the CE5 contact and four ET craft materialized in the sky and there were about 60 people there. There were two full bird colonels, Air Force colonels there. William Moore, who wrote Bush's Brain about Karl Rove, was there, who wrote the biography for George W. Bush's presidency and whatnot, wrote about Karl Rove. There are all these people there. And it ended up on the front page of the Pensacola paper. And that got kicked up to the CIA and Army intelligence and others who then came into my world and said, wtf, you're not allowed to do this. I said, oh yeah? Watch me. And so what began then in the early 90s, grew into about a year later, me briefing the director of the CIA and the Clinton administration in 1993. And that's when I learned that there was an illegal and unconstitutional organization that had split off from oversight by the president and Congress, keeping all of this secret. And the reason they were keeping it secret was twofold. One, they wanted to be able to put out disinformation over a period of decades to convince people that there was some alien threat so they could get more money and more weapons. It's like the COVID conspiracy, a thousand times worse. Then you have the other part of it which is related, and that is the technology of how these spacecraft operate and where are they getting their energy system right? The energy is coming from the zero point of energy, which is the baseline energy field from which all space time matter is fluxing. And that was mastered and discovered in the 40s and 50s. And by October of 1954 we had mastered so called anti gravity or gravity control. And we have people who can prove this. Now the big question is why are we then using oil and gas and coal and nuclear power, fighting in the straits of Hormuz and destroying the biosphere and leaving half the world in poverty? It's about power. It's about lots of money, not the budget of the United States. We're talking a couple thousand trillion dollars in commodities and assets that would become obsolete in about 15 or 20 years once this is truthfully disclosed. So this is the biggest secret in the history of the world, bar none. I've been involved at a level of briefing presidents and CIA directors and generals in the Pentagon on this who don't know about it and who should know about it, as well as members of the Senate Intelligence Committee and House Oversight committee. Since the 90s now, it's been a very heavy lift. I mean it's been very difficult. You know, we've had people working with us assassinated, et cetera. But I think that ultimately, you know, what this is really about is the human future. And what are we going to have here on this planet. And we're not going to have it through windmills and solar panels. I'm afraid to tell you, that is never going to run a planet with 8 billion people. We're going to have to have this new physics that we've already developed. Our taxpayer dollars have developed it. It's being kept secret by a bunch of, quite frankly, true fascists. I know that word is overused, but they are truly global fascists. And they don't want us to have that information or technology because guess what, you know, it means that they wouldn't be in the catbird seat anymore. And every. Here's how this works. Every home village business would have its own source of energy. It'd fit on your table and you'd never have an energy bill. It literally is free energy. And the CEO of a Fortune 50 company who's trying to defect to our team as a whistleblower, but it's complicated. But he said, yeah, we haven't needed. We could have had free energy for everyone on the planet decades ago. And here we are destroying the biosphere and leaving 3 billion people on the planet without even energy to cook their Food. A lot of people in America don't know that. So this is, this is a real crisis. And as I have said in the briefings to the President that this is the biggest national security issue in the history of the United states, in our 250 year history, and it's not being dealt with properly. So really the future of humanity is resting on whether this gets disclosed properly. And there are a lot of actions we need to take. But that's just a real quick summary, like a quick 10 minute summary of where I came from and what we discovered here.
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Dave Asprey
That is so helpful for listeners because you have a, an enormous body of work, actually larger than mine. Which is, which is cool because one of the things people complain about is, Dave, you've written too much. I can't read it all. But I feel the Same way times 10 with you. So you are prolific in a good way. This is a compliment just because you put all of the information out so people can say no, this is as real as real gets. Which always astounds me. Because if we know how these things work, have you built them? Do people, you know, have they built these things? Or do you have to have reactor and team of Hazmat people? What's stopping the hackers of the world from just going out there and doing this?
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Dr. Steven Greer
Oh, that's been attempted for decades. I recommend people see a film we released a couple of years ago called the Lost Century and it documents 100 years of very advanced technologies that have been lost. And you can see it for free.
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Dave Asprey
The Rockefeller effect, basically.
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Dr. Steven Greer
Yeah, well, but way back then, and I'll give you a date, Nikola Tesla was standing with a homemade device that a farmer named stubblefield made in 1908 that was a type of Earth battery that was running his whole farm on free energy. So there have been various breakthroughs for way over 100 years. I'm being conservative when I say there's 100 years of this kind of corruption. And people who have tried to bring these technologies out have been universally either set up and arrested or had them confiscated under national security order by misuse of the National Security act or have been assassinated. And a number of them that I've known have been flat out killed. So one of the things we're looking for is to have this issue disclosed in such a way and then that there be adequate OPSCs or operational security around people wanting to develop these systems. Because one thing I say to people, the laws of. I'm a scientist, so the laws of the universe are universal. So if There's a civilization around the star system Alpha Centauri or whatever that has it. We can have it. Now the question is, who would be, who would benefit and who would be the big losers. So over the next couple of decades, the big losers would be the ones running the whole planet into the ground. And the big winners would be 99.9999% of all of humanity. But you know, unfortunately power doesn't work symmetrically. It works asymmetrically with those. You know the old saying, he who has the gold rules the golden rule of business and finance. So you know, what we really need to do is create a, in a perfect world, we would have an angel or venture capital fund that would open source the research and we've developed a blockchain system for that. So it couldn't be sequestered. But it's going to take, you know, at least tens of millions of dollars to set up a lab and put people in there to create something this sophisticated. And also the security around it would be terrible because the government's the least your problems is these big corporate thugs that are going to, you know, really be a problem, especially the high tech sector, sector, the Internet folks and things like that. So you know, ground zero for tech fascism is Silicon Valley and darpa.
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Dave Asprey
So I, I played a meaningful role in the creation of, of Web 1.0. Like I'm the first guy to sell anything over the Internet. Was out of my dorm room 40. Commerce had a name. It said, it was this tattoo of the caffeine molecule. It said caffeine. And then the first data center company, I was a co founder of a part of it. And you know, when Salesforce was eight guys and Google was two guys and two computers, we held all their stuff and I watched us build this beautiful information freedom thing and just watch it get turned into a surveillance platform and then a social media like cognition stealing platform. And like man, the powerful people always just corrupt anything good you build. So you got to like build, prevent that. Which is why I respect what you're doing with, with disclosure we got to
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Dr. Steven Greer
disclose the right way the technologies can come out. They just have to come out open source. You cannot put a patent around it and you cannot put intellectual property around it because that can happen later with various vertical and horizontal applications. But at the first stage of it, the basic operating system in physics needs to be open source and massively released. And otherwise it's going to get squashed and it's going to be strangled in the cradle, which is what Keeps happening. So if you look at that documentary, the Lost Century, you'll see that there have been very sophisticated devices over the decades and they've all gone the way of all flesh. So what we have studied is okay, you know, doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result is insane. So how do we do this without creating the same errors? And that's what we have created a strategic plan to do. But we don't have anyone to fund it. So, you know, maybe somebody out there someday will. And if not, good luck. The world's going to go tits up because the environment ain't getting any better. It's collapsing. And I think that if you really want to fix this problem, you're not going to do it the way everyone's putting their money into it certainly isn't going to be fixed by SpaceX.
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Dr. Steven Greer
It's a pattern. Yeah, you should send me your family member's name. We can dig into it. I have investigators in the intelligence and military world that can dig into it. But Bob Asprey is his name.
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Dave Asprey
Easy enough to guess.
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Dr. Steven Greer
Okay, well, I'll tell you that what that story take that time to a thousand or more people. And that's happened for decades. So, you know, here's one of the problems, every one of these really brilliant people who invent these systems, they get really bad advice from venture capital, business and lawyers.
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Dave Asprey
Yeah, I did.
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Dr. Steven Greer
Yeah. And here's why is that they're, you know, okay, if you have a new app or a new computer or something like an iPhone, or quite frankly something that is not consequential to the future, no one's going to care. But if you have something that's a baseline game changer for how the planet will run, the physics and the energy system, they're going to come after you with all, everything they got. And the only way to get around that corruption is to be utterly transparent. The laboratory I would create would be live streamed through blockchain continuously. Every scientific breakthrough would be released in real time. And frankly, every celebrity supporter I have that are friends like Demi Lovato and Chris Brown and others, I would say here, drop this link. We just figured out how this works because I call this squeezing the toothpaste out of the tube so hard and fast you can't put it back in. Right. Because as soon as you try to use the conventional thinking, the group think of venture capital, finance, Wall street, patents, lawyers, you're, you're done. You're absolutely done. Not because the systems don't work, but because the powers that are corrupt have surveillance capabilities to know the instant you have something like that. And it is never going to benefit the world. So this is one of the real problems. We know many people who have developed these systems, like your family member and things that would be a game changer for many things, including medicine, I might add. And yet they never seem to get out there to benefit the public due to this kind of centralized corruption of money and power. What do you think is behind the
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Dave Asprey
centralized corruption of money and power?
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Dr. Steven Greer
It's global. I mean, we call it a transnational criminal organization or Tinko or tnco, and there is a senior law enforcement group I'm working with investigating that because it is essentially a rico, a racketeering corrupt organization.
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Dave Asprey
Yeah, I think it's Rockefeller's originated and still running to this day. Or is it more?
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Dr. Steven Greer
It was a bunch of people back in that day that were the big industrialists. And a lot of people don't understand what fascism was when it originated in the late 1800s, early 20th century. Fascism is when the powerful centralized industrial oligarchs subsume the interests of the people through government corruption. That's what fascism is. And then of course, one of the first adopters of it was Mussolini and later Hitler. But in Reality, we won the battle of World War II. We did not win that war because the, that system, people forget. You know, Paul Mellon, who was one of the few billionaires at the end of World War II, his grandson is on our team, John Warner IV, whose father was John Warner, the senator. He said, yes, my whole family are fascists. And his grandfather, Paul Mellon, went over and retrieved a prototype from Germany in 1945 of a disk that was an anti gravity free energy disk that they were. That was their secret weapon. Ours was the atomic weapon. And Paul Mellon and George S. Patton and Allen Dulles, who later formed the CIA, went over there and got it. And George Patton really wanted to have it disclosed, and he kept pushing on that. And he mysteriously died in an automobile accident, which I have on good authority was set up by a group to assassinate him. So, you know, this goes back before Roswell, right? So I think that, you know, this sort of corruption has been ubiquitous for a long time. And the question is, are we the people going to demand that it change? And that's why back in the 90s, I started a project that has become the Disclosure Project. You know, Spielberg just released this movie, Disclosure Day. So I originated the term disclosure, and it's been used now everywhere. But back in the 90s, when we were doing the briefings for the Clinton administration and CI director, it was called Project Starlight. And if you go into our archive, by the way, the public can go to dpiarchive.com and there's terabytes of data and video and, you know, 700 and some whistleblowers information in there. 115 or 20 of them are their first full name, their full testimony, video transcripts, thousands of pages of government documents and other data. It's all in there. It's huge. And we're about to make it go live with AI Search. So it's really a thousand times more information than the government just released through the White House and the Department of War release that happened in the last month and a half. So I think that I would recommend people avail themselves of that, because it's all facts and it's all data and it's all direct whistleblowers and documents and schematics and information. And it lists all the black sites, the illegal underground facilities where these materials are being held. Wow. Everything is in there except the names of the whistleblowers who do not want to be known publicly because I protect their confidence. And I always say this publicly. We're looking for more whistleblowers to come forward who have dispositive evidence so that we can release it through our blockchain and leapfrog this sort of stalling tactic that's going on at the White House and in Congress right now. We need to up the game quickly. Yep.
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Dave Asprey
So do you feel confident and hopeful that we're actually going to do that? I mean, you've been at this for decades and.
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Dr. Steven Greer
Yeah, yeah.
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Dave Asprey
Why are you hopeful now?
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Dr. Steven Greer
Well, it's going to happen one way or another. It's going to. We're going to either do it right or as I've warned the President, we're going to do it incorrectly. If we do it incorrectly, it'll be catastrophic. And if it comes out the way that people who are in his circle have been saying, keep the technology secret that we have, portray the aliens as a threat. This is Lou Elizondo and Avi Loeb and people like that, they want to get trillions more to put weapons in space and have a threat from outer space. So their whole agenda, and of course the White House has been gaslit by these operatives who are actually, we call them Knocks, non official cover. They're actually carrying water for this corrupt organization. But they appear to be legitimate scientists at Harvard like Avi Loeb or former military guys like Lou Elizondo. And we know exactly who, who they are. So. And I am not at all shy about calling out such nonsense, but unfortunately you have low fund of information people like the people in Senate Intelligence and House Oversight and in the White House who are all brand new to this and they are easily gaslit and diverted. So if it goes in that direction of a threat and they put this out there, but without a truthful disclosure that we already have these technologies that could save the world and end poverty globally, that is worse than if it was kept secret. And I wrote a paper in 1999 called When Disclosure Serves Secrecy. In other words, when this type of fake spun disclosure, scripted by the very cabal of sociopaths who've kept it secret, comes out and then the world gets thrown into sort of the goal is, you know, Wernher von Braun, who invented the rocket for Adolf Hitler, told his closest assistant the year that he died in 1970, right around the time when he was dying in 1974, a woman named Carol Rosen, who was one of the first women in the aerospace industry, and told her, we're going to hoax an alien threat. It's all a lie, it's all false. But that's how we're going to unify the world around a totalitarian militaristic superstate. And that's been the goal. That was the goal of the project that began in 1953. So we can deconstruct 70 some years of this and how it all happened and how it went sideways. But the question is, that's in the past. How do we fix it now?
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Dave Asprey
Who masterminded all this 75 years ago? Some, like some crazy person said, oh, yeah, you know, in the future we're going to have all these abilities and we're going to need to do all this. Is this H.G. wells did this? Like, do we know?
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Dr. Steven Greer
Oh, yeah, no, I mean, it was what you're referring to. There were very powerful oligarchs then like there are now. And they absolutely. Look, once we knew, you know, what a Foo Fighter is, not the band, but the things that are Foo fighters, or what UFOs were called in World War II, you know, I have a man on my team who was a very. He's passed away. He was a very esteemed hematologist and pathologist, medical doctor in Denver. His uncle was General Jimmy Doolittle, who was sent over to the theater of operations in Europe by President Roosevelt to look into what Foo Fighters were. Now, this is before the war ended. And he came back to the White House and said, sir, those are quote, enter planetary vehicles. Okay, that is true. So this has been known for 80 years. More than 80 years. But once they acquired the materiel, in other words, once they discovered that they could use certain types of electromagnetic pulse weapons to scramble the electronics and nav system navigation systems on these non human craft, they figured out how to down them. So the Roswell crash was actually not an accident because they couldn't fly through a thunderstorm. It's ridiculous. They can go interstellar, but you can't fly through a New Mexico thunderstorm. Right. This is the COVID story. No, we have an FBI document that says they had put in a new, quote, radar system. And usually a radar system, when they say it in this way, is also a dual purpose. Both tracking and active warfare system using directional energy weapon technologies, electromagnetic weapons. And there were three craft that crashed there. One that went into pieces not far from Roswell, one that went further west that was cracked open. But there was one surviving extraterrestrial biological entity. This is the proper term, Eben E B E N. And another one wasn't found for a few more years after that. Going in the north, going northwest of there in the mountains in New Mexico. But. And I think that near Arizona but those craft were in the Roswell area because at the time that was the only atomic bomb squadron and location on the planet. And another part of this story, let's go back to Oppenheimer and tell her and the Manhattan Project what actually happened when we detonated the first atomic bomb. It not only puts out an electromagnetic pulse, which I'm sure everyone's heard of, that can of course take out your electricity grid and everything else, but it has embedded in it something called a scalar or longitudinal signal. So think of a wave light that you and I see. Light right here is a way, a sine wave like this that's sort of propagating through the vacuum at 186,000 miles per second. A scalar or longitudinal system. It's a point that goes out in a straight line with no wave function and it is at multiples of the speed of light. And that is embedded within the EMP signal at certain frequencies. And that disrupts interstellar communications and travel. So when that happened, a big red flag went over Earth and the ET said, oh boy, this planet's in trouble and they could be a trouble to the rest of the cosmos. That was the genesis of the modern era. Now, I believe there's no evidence to contradict this. There's plenty of evidence, suggests the ETs have been around since millennia, right? I mean, we just carbon dated this extraterrestrial device that landed in Columbia, South America a year ago that is in the possession of a researcher I'm friends with in Mexico, Mexico City, called the Buga Sphere. And we have a whole thing on this on our website that we carbon dated to 12,560 years old. So we know that they've been around for a long, long time. But, but I think the modern, let's call it the modern era of human and non human interaction began with the detonation of the atomic bomb because it really signaled that we were in deep trouble. And then of course that escalated to the hydrogen or thermonuclear bomb in 1952 when we detonated the first one of those. And then after that in 1954 near what's now Edwards Air Force Base, a place called Muroc M U r o c California. Eisenhower did meet with ETs. This sounds fantastical, but it's true. We have a letter to prove it. And they asked him to say, look, stop arming yourselves like this, we'll help you bring out technologies, start a work and let's make a peaceful arrangement. And the military industrial complex, which is What Eisenhower called the group keeping the secret shoved the President aside. There was a quiet unacknowledged coup d' Etat in 1954. In the letter I have, it stated that In May of 1954 the President Eisenhower was going to do a disclosure and announce all of this to the world. And that was one year before I was born in 55. So you know, we're living in the, let's say the ricochet effect of a quiet coup d' etat that happened in the mid-50s and now we're here trying to fix it 70 years later.
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Dave Asprey
So we have this situation where Eisenhower, I'm really clearly warned of the military industrial complex. Patton before he was killed, said, oh my God, I think we might have actually fought on the wrong side. Oops. At least we have good reports on that. We have the guy who in 1950 Admiral Byrd went down to the Antarctic and said, looks like there's a lot more land here than anyone said. And I've got seven ships and tons of military gear who got censored from that. And, and for some weird reason we can't protect the rainforest for the environment. But no country on earth will go to Antarctica because environment. I'm like, I, I don't know what to think. I'm, I'm a scientist. I know, in fact that uncle who was probably killed was one of the top 10 investors in private space travel in the early 90s before Elon got into it. So I know the equations work, I know we can make satellites orbit. I don't think the Earth is flat. But like what is going on here? Like, like my brain kind of breaks because I think bird is relevant and I think Lockheed Martin does have a bunch of stuff they haven't told us because my parents work for the national labs their whole life, but they never told me anything. But I know how much secrecy there is and I'm like, like what the hell? Like how do I sort of doubt I'm pretty smart.
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Dr. Steven Greer
Yeah. Ben Rich, who is the president of Lockheed Skunk Works, the week he died, told a friend of mine who's a well known aerospace historian, James Goodall, that anything you've ever seen and can imagine on Star Trek is out there. And he said, not Area 51, but the Lockheed Skunk Works underground in a stiff, a subterranean facility. And I've been to that facility, I've been there and I can, I can tell you, not down under, but where the opening is. And interestingly the, the about two weeks after I handed that intel, I was in a Classic chopper flying over these test ranges for Lockheed and Northrop Grumman out in the desert. About two weeks later, someone sawed through the boat on my mountain bike seat and I came off of it and was almost killed. And I had to have four surgeries. And you know, because they did not like that, I was given to the Senate Intelligence Committee and to other people senior in government exactly where the goodies are. In other words, we, where are the ET craft? Where are the man made craft? And this is something most people don't know. 80% or more of all the craft you see flying around out there are from. My, my uncle worked Northrop Grumman his whole career. They're Northrop Grumman, they're Lockheed, they're Raytheon, they're EG And G. SAIC I mean there's a whole group of corporations who have studied this and built these craft that have been used in things like abductions and mutilations as a psychological warfare operation. So what most people don't realize, almost everything you see on the Internet on this subject has been curated through the algorithms to brainwash you to think there's a threat. And this is what this guy Gary Nolan at Stanford is doing. He's putting out false information. I introduced him to the field and he's gotten money from the CIA and others to put information out that all these people have traumatic brain injuries from the aliens. No, they don't. They have it from the psychological warfare operations by covert human projects using human reverse engineered machines to try to simulate an alien contact. And it's a complete charade. And yet he's gotten on the payroll. And so there are all these people who, who are there now who have been just appointed last week on the White House Advisory Council for this, who are carrying water for this cabal of sociopaths and miscreants who have gotten us into this mess. So you know, this is where disclosure can go very wrong if we don't intervene. And the public needs to write the President and write their congressmen and senators and say, hey, you know, I just heard a podcast saying that you guys are being gaslit by a bunch of sociologists as corrupt. And you know what it is? It's the foxes that are in the hen house. I mean these foxes have what are called cutouts or knocks non official cover. You know, no one's going to wear a badge that says, hi, I'm jsoc, I'm Joint Special Operations Commander, I'm CIA or I'm whatever, right? No, it's not how it works. I know how it works because back in 1992, the former head of army intelligence, General Albert Stubblebine III, personally offered me $2 billion to not do what I'd been doing and be part of his team.
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Dave Asprey
$2 billion? How would they even have given you that?
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Dr. Steven Greer
Oh, that's nothing for this group, nothing. He said I would have full control and access over a fund, kind of like a sovereign fund that they had seized from Eastern Europe after the collapse of the Soviet Union. And it was a real offer and that's is the way the game is played. In fact, another member of that organization who has tried to recruit me said, yeah, we've given over 10,000 people $10 million a piece or more to secure their cooperation in our project, which means the COVID up and the disinformation and all that. So between the threats to your life, the defamation of your character, you know, I've been called everything from running a pedophile cult to a Russian foreign agent to a traitor to committing treason all over the place. And, you know, you have to be prepared. You got to make yourself bulletproof, you know. All right, and the problem is most people aren't going to do that, you know, if they're offered that kind of money like I was, or even a fraction of it, you know, between the threats, frankly, that I've experienced as well as the bribery and inducements, most people are going to sell out. And this is the problem. You know, three things are needed for this to happen. I'll be honest. You got to have enough people with. I don't want to sound elitist, but you have to have enough intelligence to understand the complexity of this problem. Right, right. And the science part of it. The secondly, you've got to have enough integrity not to be blackmailed or threatened. And third, then this is the hard part. This is where everyone falls off. You got to have the courage to act. Because the courage to act may mean it's going to cost you in blood and treasure more than you can imagine. But that's been our problem since the 50s. There has not been a requisite critical mass. And this is why I went public at the 2001 National Press Club event that kicked off the whole modern disclosure era. I decided the inside ball I was playing was never going to make it happen. That we needed to put this out to the public and the public needed to start weighing in. And slowly, over the last 25 years, it's led to where we are now. But now we're at this point that we have to be careful because if it comes out the wrong way, it will be catastrophic. If it comes out correctly, here's what will be. You know, my children and grandchild, 11 grandchildren will have a new world. There won't be any pollution. We'll have medical cures like you can imagine that are high tech. You're going to have new energy systems so the world's environment becomes pristine. And even the pollution, radiological and otherwise, it's happened. These technologies can reverse it. We don't have time to unpack all that. But you know, this is a really, can be a golden age of enlightenment. If we do it right, if we do it wrong incorrectly, then we're going to head into a dystopian of alien invasion week on the History Channel and nonsense like that, you know, or the movie, you know, Independence Day where you know, the world's united around an alien invasion. All of that kind of fear mongering stuff that, you know, people love it, it's a great Hollywood movie. But. But
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Dave Asprey
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Dr. Steven Greer
he got a pardon, you know, so that's that.
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Dr. Steven Greer
the other part of this though is that and this is where consciousness is so important.
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Dave Asprey
There you go.
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Dr. Steven Greer
Is that everyone thinks that change in society happens like a political election where you need 50.1%. No, it happens on a level think of I grew up very poor in North Carolina and I'm old enough to remember colored and white water fountains and stuff like that. And I was almost killed in high school because I had a black girlfriend, which was a no no back then in the early 70s in North Carolina. But but it took it wasn't the whole wasn't 50% of the population. In fact even the Kennedys were dragged kicking and screaming into the civil rights. But it was a very intent group of people who acted through their consciousness and efforts to galvanize people and make change. The same thing with women's rights, gay rights, whatever it is. But now this is the big one. But the beauty of it is if this is yce context so important, you know, there's this thing called the Maharishi effect, but basically what it is is it's a non locality in physics where in superfluidity and helium, if you get 1% of the molecules coherently aligned, as you preach absolute zero, the entire container of helium becomes super fluid and has these magical coherent properties, but it's 1%. Well, a similar thing happens in consciousness. So when we meditate, like we're going to do here in Virginia with a couple hundred people and we're meditating and going into higher states of consciousness and thinking in the same direction in a positive way that can affect way beyond our numbers. So you only need. They have found that when you have 1% of a community consciousness and in deep meditative states doing something, it has an effect on the other 99% of the population through this sort of morphogenic effect and non local effect in consciousness. So I tell people it's not at all hopeless because 1% we can do 51%, maybe not, but no big changes in history have ever happened with 51%. It's always happened with a frontier or pioneering group. That's a very small number. And so I, I feel that we need to look at that and study it and utilize that fact. It's a fact of the science of consciousness, it's a fact of physics, and it's a fact of social and history and, and of the past hundred years. So I think that that's what we really want to focus on. And I think this is why I think if we can unite as a people and all do the right thing and also the reason it's important to do CE5 contact, it gives another face of humanity to these visitors from other star systems. Right now the only thing they're seeing is chaos. The military targeting them, killing them. When we capture them alive, we torture them. We do. I know people who've done it.
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Dave Asprey
Yikes.
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Dr. Steven Greer
Personally. So you know, it's atrocious and they're obviously not hostile. I always tell people, look, I know what we in our covert programs and military programs and what my uncle's company, Northrop Grumman and Lockheed Skunk work weapons systems have been doing, right? They're electromagnetic pulse weapons being fired at these craft and downing them. That's what they're using. I've been at the facilities and have I have pictures of the weapons. Now here's the problem. Who is doing anything diplomatic or enlightened? Nobody. So that's why I call this a citizens ambassador group, where we're ambassadors to the universe instead of to another country. But we're doing it with the foundation of it is universal consciousness, the conscious field that's universal throughout the cosmos. So that's where the magic, that's where the secret sauce really is, is understanding the leverage and the fulcrum of people coming together in that state of consciousness. And it really is transformative.
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Dave Asprey
So you think the number is 1% is what it's going to take. I've been studying this for years. It's one of the reasons this 40 years of Zen is one of my programs. And just why consciousness the way I do? People go into very altered states. Not many report talking with aliens. It's not, it's not unheard of. They usually feel like they're talking with ancestors or, you know, having very profound, like spiritual, divine kind of presence. But we're focusing on loving kindness, not the kind of state you would go into for what you're talking about. These altered states though are, well, they're altered states. There's more than one of them. Right.
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Dr. Steven Greer
So when we do, just to be clear, we go into that state and it is loving kindness and higher consciousness. And then from there remote view their location and invite them to come. So we, from where you, what your group is doing, all you'd have to add to that is the, what we call the protocol of seeing them and then vectoring them in. So this is why if you look at the movie Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind, you'll see dozens and dozens of CE5 contact events where the craft have come in and in fact where ETs have been right in our circle, we have photographs of them and they come in and you should see this film actually. You know, when William Shatner saw it, he got the app, the CE5 Contact app, used it when he went up in space. And Demi Lovato on her, I think, 27th birthday used it and had this, this big UFO craft come in in a response to her using the technique. You know, anyone can do it. And I think the reason it's so effective is that these extraterrestrial civilizations are waiting for humans to do something decent and positive and forward looking instead of just, gee, there's some cool technology, let's blow them out of the sky. Which is what we've been doing since the 40s. Right. So it's like this is, is a totally different approach and I'm recommending that the US government do that. And what's happened clandestinely, there are some people who have been involved with the teams targeting and downing these ET craft that are now doing the CE5 peaceful contact protocols. And back in the around 2010 or 11, we did a whole demonstration of that for when President Sarkozy was the president of France. His Ministry of Defense and his top admiral there went with us and we did an expedition in France where all these craft came in and they tracked them. Yeah. Though this is an enormous story and so I'm hopeful that it's been a struggle, obviously. I mean, I gave up my medical career to do this stuff, but. Which has not been easy, but it's really altogether ruined my life privately. I mean, no way to put lipstick on that pig, but you know, but at the same time, you're talking about opening up a whole new chapter in human history here if this is done right. Yeah.
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Dave Asprey
Okay. We talked earlier about that integrity and courage to do this. And I turned down a $75 million bribe from, from a board member at one of my companies. You can guess which one, who wanted me to sell them the shares for weight less than the company was worth. And he's like, look, I'll split the loot with you. And of course this meant screwing all my employees who've been doing the work. And I said, I'm not going to do that. And it's one of the reasons that I believe that, you know, I was removed from the board of a 500 million dollar company I started. And you know, but hey, at least I can sleep with myself at night.
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Dr. Steven Greer
And I don't know if, I don't know if the other guys can or
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Dave Asprey
not, but I find the number of people willing to make the sacrifice you're talking about is probably less than 1% of people. So what made you that stubborn? Well, or loving, whatever you want to call it.
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Dr. Steven Greer
Well, I think part of it. When I was 17, I got deathly ill and had a near death experience. And I was raised in a family that said there is no consciousness, there is no soul, there's no afterlife, there's no nothing and everything is just linear reductionist, whatever. Okay. And when I had the near death experience, I literally experienced the full on cosmic and unity consciousness when I passed on. And I of course, obviously came back. But that caused me to want to learn meditation on my 18th birthday, I learned meditation. This is 1973. Now we're talking dark ages here. 53 years ago, on my birthday, which is actually Sunday. My 71st birthday is Sunday. Congratulations. But here's the deal that then followed six months later. I was meditating up on a mountain in North Carolina. I was 18 then. And right when I was 8 years old, I saw a UFO. I didn't think much about it. It was just amazing, though. And I got very interested in 1963 or so, but this was like 10 years later. And I'm up in the mountain, North Carolina, in October of 73, and I see this same craft that I saw when I was 8, you know, and I went, oh, they're back. Well, cool. I didn't think much more about it. I sat, meditated, went into a deep meditation, like full Samadhi. And it got dark. And when I opened my eyes, there was a glow below the crest of the mountain. And then I stood up and there was an extraterrestrial different from looking the one in the Spielberg, the new movie. It looked, but it was upright and had eyes like a deer. So I thought it was an upright deer. But it came over and it touched me on my right shoulder. And I literally, I'm not joking, dematerialized, vanished, boom, off the mountain for several hours. And that's when we created the whole CE5 contact protocols.
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Dave Asprey
Wow. Okay.
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Dr. Steven Greer
So my experience of this was very deep. It was more than just an intellectual. Now, I will Admit at age 18, I didn't understand fully the physics of the science of consciousness or anti gravity or teleportation or trans dimensional physics and all that. But in a way I didn't need to because I experienced it or saw it. So I think that is what has kept me on the path, is that I'm rooted to a deeper spiritual vision of the future that I actually saw. I've actually seen that future. I met my wife in a precognitive lucid dream. So I've had these my whole life.
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Dr. Steven Greer
Yeah. So I'm just strange that way. But I don't know, I mean, the aboriginals called it Dreamtime, you know, and my grandmother on my dad's side was full Cherokee. And I think if you talk to native peoples around the world, these capabilities and consciousness are very commonplace. It's really the Western reductionist, materialistic paradigm that scrub that out of our souls. But, you know, we can reclaim it, we can bring it back. Why not? So that's what happened to me. So luckily, before I went to med school and all that stuff, I got really involved with this and really involved in the study of higher states of consciousness and the Vedas and the science of consciousness on a deep level and began to understand it more. So that has guided me through this otherwise tormented path. So that's in a nutshell, what got me here.
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Dave Asprey
Okay, that is a fantastic story. So you kind of have a spiritual calling now. Where do you think those visions come from? Because we talk about going into altered states. And again, these don't come from a place of skepticism at all. Just I'm trying to figure out how you do it. Right. So you go into these altered states, you know, kind of loving kindness, connected everything. And you go there and you communicate and call in these alien craft. Are you in that same thing when you get your met, your mission downloads, and where are those coming from? And how do you know that those aren't coming from aliens?
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Dr. Steven Greer
Oh, no. I mean, it's you. You have to have clarity of your own mind and know your own self.
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Dave Asprey
Okay, because I looked at it, I
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Dr. Steven Greer
know thyself and thyself be true. But the other part of it is that. And with experience, you begin to be able to sort out, was this accurate or not accurate? I call it your truth meter. And as I began to have practice what the cie called remote viewing. As I began to practice these capabilities, once you begin to practice meditative states and then attempting to see remotely, then when something comes to you accurately, it has a certain ring of truth, you know? Right. And so it's experiential, it builds over time. But there's no one who can. You have to do it yourself. I think you have to start on a path of discovery that way and do it yourself. And that's when I teach people meditation and the CE5 contact protocols. In fact, it's a whole meditation course. But I always tell people, make it your own. I'm not your guru. Everyone has within them, you're awake. And here it's simple. Everyone listening right now is conscious. Well, just. It's sort of a Zen process. But remove everything that you are conscious of, even yourself, your ego, and just look at the consciousness, the field of consciousness. That's what you need to experience in as pure a form as possible. And that's what every meditative technique or whatever it should be doing. It's not the technique itself, it's the goal is the experience of that state of consciousness. Now, once you experience that state of consciousness, then you can begin to operate where you can see in your mind's eye a remote place or a remote place in time, point in time as well. And you know, Ben Rich, actually before he died, he gave a lecture at UCLA School of Engineering. And he said someone asked him how to about this whole issue of ETs and telepathy. He says, well, every point in space and time is connected to each other. And he was referring to not just quantum entanglement, but the conscious field. And he said that and it was a whole room. I knew three people who were there. So I think this is something that is a scientific as well as spiritual. And I think in the future we're going to see this coming together spirituality and science very strongly and particularly with these ET technologies because those technologies are very consciousness. It's like, I call it technology assisted consciousness. So you have technologies that assist you in that, but you also have the reverse where your consciousness is interfacing and assisting the technology, whether it's a navigation system system or your computer screen. And we're not talking neural link here, where is speed of light and wires and even wireless. We're talking consciousness and let's call it quanta of thought interfacing with machine. Like Dr. John did at Princeton with run the random number generators. So I'm sure your listeners are aware of those studies that I know knew Dr. John at Princeton. He, he was a professor of engineering emeritus and he showed that people could put their awareness on a random number generator and shift it coming out more zeros than one, et cetera. So this non locality and this kind of omnipresent field of consciousness, everyone, everyone can experience. I reject the idea that it's only your gurus and this and that or what have you, because if you're awake you can learn to be just aware of awareness. It's really simple. And I think when I died I had that experience. I kind of got a supercharged path because I dropped dead. But, but I think that it's not. You don't have to drop dead to do that.
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Dave Asprey
A lot of people have a shamanic or spiritual awakening when that happens. So it's not, it's not uncommon. But wow, I love just how personal you are with that. When you've talked about remote viewing. And I learned to do it in my, my early 20s and it turns out one of, one of my friends was recruited heavily by the CIA because she had better skills than they did at remote viewing. She did one project for them and said, ew, I'm not touching that and is not in that field anymore. But she got outed in a big book and this stuff is real. A lot of people listening are saying this is all nonsense. But I have personal experiences with this stuff. And you have 10 billion times more personal experiences because you're immersed in it. But there's enough that I don't feel like I have a coherent picture, like I do of Internet architecture or even how biology works, which is mushy, but I can hack. There's too many mushy parts in that picture. I know there's something there, but I don't know what it is. And I feel like you have a coherent picture of it, which is remarkable and special, that you're sharing it in a beautiful way. My question for you around this is trying to put the right words on it. Okay. When you're doing this remote viewing thing that you talked about, so you know how to go into the remote viewing state, and lots of people have taught that over the years. It's not that hard.
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Dave Asprey
And you have a special CE5 thing that's in your app, which is cool, that helps you call in the craft when you do time travel in that, which is something I've never been that good at. You look into the future. I've seen a few people out there with pretty good credentials in the space saying there's not a lot of people in the Future, especially after 2040. What's your take on that?
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Dr. Steven Greer
Well, what's the wonderful Chinese saying?
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Dave Asprey
Interesting times.
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Dr. Steven Greer
Unless we change directions, we're likely to end up where we're going. So I think that we're. Look at the trajectory we're on. This is 2020. You have a number of confluence of horrific things, but both geopolitical and geophysical coming together. The bugasphere that landed in Colombia, South America, there are a bunch of them that have suddenly become activated. I think it's because they're sensing geophysical anomalies and instability because they've been there for 12,560 years, since the end of the last ice age, when there was a massive geophysical event that happened, you know, and where, you know, mastodons in Siberia were quick freeze dried vegetation in their stomachs, that's been found because it happened so quickly. So I think that, yeah, we could have a near mass extinction event if we're not careful. And I think what I have been saying for now, 30 some years is that we need to be together as a people on this planet, changing how we live here and how we are really thinking. And, you know, endless wars and religious conflicts and ethnic conflicts and even the whole, you know, culture of victimology. I'm a bigger victim than you are right. I get that all the time. I say, oh, be quiet. My people survived the Trail of Tears holocaust that cost 100 million Native American people in the Americas. All right? So I said, come on, we need to just move forward in a positive way instead of fighting over the past and past mythologies and nonsense. But look what's going on now. It's like oil war and religious war. Number uncounted in the Middle East. So again, unless we change directions, we're going to end up where we're going. So I think that when people have looked into the future, what I have seen is that there are great changes now. The reduction in population may not have to be catastrophic. Remember the Malthusian dilemma? You know, the Western countries in Japan would be in negative population growth if it wasn't for immigration and the developing world because of poverty. Those women basically have no choice but to crank out 10 or 12 children until their uterus falls out. And that is in large part due to extreme poverty. So once there is this sort of technology that comes out and the whole world is lifted up and poverty is a thing of the past, when that goes away, women get educated and they're not just there cranking out a baby every nine months or a year. So I think the whole malfunction, Malthusian crisis gets ameliorated and altered over time and which is of course just a natural effect of people living in prosperity, but also with educational abilities for women and girls, which is not that prevalent all over the world, by the way. So I say this as a father of four, very accomplished daughters have done great. But so I think that we have to look at this in a very large way. And this is one of the things I'm recommending, is that there be a policy group that's set up that is advising government. You might have ideas for people to be on that. I've just come up with this idea in the past couple weeks that can put together a view of what kind of actions need to be taken. Now, with this information and technology being disclosed, how is it managed to have a soft landing macroeconomically? Because there will be a lot of displacement of people in the energy sectors and whatnot, and even geopolitically, what kind of changes have to happen so oil producing dependent countries actually can continue on, but without having to just pump black stuff out of the ground to burn into the atmosphere. Right. So there is a massive amount of brain trust that has to kick in pretty quickly here. And I'm actually making an appeal to people to submit names for that because I do have very direct access to key people in Congress and the President and White House. And I think right now they are being misguided and we need to put a team together to guide them properly.
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Dave Asprey
It feels like there's also an entrepreneurial side to this.
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Dr. Steven Greer
Oh yes, I feel like advisory work,
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Dave Asprey
meh, government advisory is what got us here and like building stuff that shows people what they can do. I, I did something reasonably sized. You know, the, the biohacking movement is supposed to be a $200 billion industry in the next five years. That's freaking awesome. And most of it is actually for the good of humans only some of it is being subjugated by the people who want to build a global surveillance net. Sorry about that. Unintended consequences no matter what you do. But net net, I think it's still driving human flourishing so.
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Dr. Steven Greer
Well, the real entrepreneurial play here is what we've talked about about an hour ago and that is the energy tech part of this. Yeah, because you know, now I can tell you that the so called electrogravitic, the things that are gravity control things that fly through those can be a missile system, but something that would fit in the hood of your car or your house or your business or your factory and run it with zero energy cost and free energy and no pollution. That is what we need to put a thing together. And that is probably a $200 trillion business, not a 200 billion. So I think that the question is, can we find people who would want to do it? The way DARPA developed the Internet, it'd have to be open source. And now look, GitHub was open source. I mean there are a lot of things have been open source. But most people I've talked to a, they want to control the company and the effort when they know nothing about the strategic risks, which I won't allow. If you want to do it, break a leg, you'll be killed. You know, I'll call you from the other side because you're going to get whacked. Number two, you got to have people who understand. Phase one of this would be an open source release. Now phase two of an entrepreneurial effort like this would be productization where you then create specific products. Once the technology is proliferated, then you can do patents, you can do intellectual property because then you could create something that is small enough to run this computer which uses very little electricity or something big enough to run a General Motors plant. Right. So there are all kinds of applications here. And I I've suggested for years that people in the. I'm a doctor, I don't pretend to be a business entrepreneur, not my wheelhouse. But there are people who are good with that like you are. And we need to kind of come together and figure out this would be a massive entrepreneurial play and would benefit humanity. And it would actually the people doing it. If you could put together probably 20 million to $100 million, you could do something. So in about a year and a half you'd have an operating system out that'd be solid state because I have enough intelligence and people working in these system areas. But boy, the OP6, the Operational Security around that would have to be massive.
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Dave Asprey
I think that the issue is trying to do this in sol. You'll get killed. So what you do is you, you start a company that either does AI data centers or crypto mining and you have a zero cost energy and you make a boatload of money with that and then you publicize it after you've already, you've already used it.
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Dr. Steven Greer
Unfortunately the, the detection capabilities for those, these type of energy systems would pick it up okay. Immediately. This is. See I. You need, frankly you need a subject expert like me advising this because reason or the reason normal entrepreneurs and tech people have been stopped dead in their tracks like your family member did. They don't know where all the landmines are and they end up stepping on them. So what, what that, what you just said. Now the way you can get around that is that you have a multinodal system where the research be going on and the workbenches is being streamed through blockchain and it's seen and the instantly you get the eureka moment where the thing works. The whole world has it. Right? Okay, so I know how to set this up to get around these security threats. But I'm just saying that part of it isn't easy and it ain't cheap and it's certainly way beyond the capability of a retired emergency doctor. It's not like we're, we're not exactly Silicon Valley billionaires who, people who are there up her eyebrows and guts and brains and whatnot. But I think that it can be done and I think it should be done. I agree with you that we have to do both. I mean we can't just write off the governments because they can muck it up badly. At the same time, I think the real action needs to be as you said, in the private entrepreneurial sector.
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Dave Asprey
Well, this is, this is so fascinating. This is an area where I've intentionally not gone too deep. Just like I didn't go deep on crypto, even though I used to teach classes on cryptography. It's because I knew if I did it I wouldn't be on the biohacking thing. Like I could have been distracted at a few key times.
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Dr. Steven Greer
Right. Right.
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Dave Asprey
Chance to go work for Elon 10 plus years ago and I'm like no, don't even talk about it. Just because you know the sense of mission. Same. Same as you. But it what you've done with your your life's work here, it's fascinating. There's absolutely something here and we do need to do something. I'm trying to figure out what to do and what I'm coming out with after all of this, Dr. Greer, is it's be a good human being and if you do that really, really well, maybe you'll affect a bunch of other humans and and that's just going to be enough. So I'm going to keep doing that,
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Dr. Steven Greer
keep doing that and well help us with the networking and I appreciate you having me on your show, getting the word out a little bit to your listeners.
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Dave Asprey
Thanks again for being on the show.
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Dr. Steven Greer
Thank you. It was great meeting you.
- [78:00]
Dave Asprey
See you next time on the Human Upgrade Podcast.
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