“They Offered Me $1,000,000!” JasonTheWeen on Leaving FaZe, MrBeast Rumors & Spending Everything

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Iced Coffee Hour – JasonTheWeen on Leaving FaZe, MrBeast Rumors & Spending Everything (Feb 16, 2026)

Episode Overview

In this engaging episode of The Iced Coffee Hour, hosts Graham Stephan and Jack Selby welcome streamer and content creator JasonTheWeen for an in-depth conversation about his meteoric rise in streaming, financial decisions, family pressures, the inside story on FaZe Clan, and the realities (and pitfalls) of influencer success. Known for his humorous and self-deprecating content, Jason shares his unconventional journey from NFT and crypto hustling to internet stardom, discusses rumors about his work with names like MrBeast, and opens up about spending, burnout, and lessons learned in one of the most high-stakes corners of the creator economy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Early Hustle: Crypto, NFTs, and Shoe-Flipping

• Jason started out as a hustler, making six figures as a teenager through NFT flipping and sneaker reselling. He joined “HiddenNFT” Discords to catch drops, turned $300 ETH into over $100,000, and moved profits among ETH and Solana.
  • “My mindset was always like, my parents are getting old. I gotta make money fast.” [02:03]
  • He admits to gambling away much of his profit during an “NBA playoff” streaming phase and cautions listeners, “do not gamble.” [03:54]
• Even before streaming, Jason was heavily involved in various online money-making schemes, driven by a sense of family responsibility and urgency.
• On what he spent his early profits on: “I didn't buy anything because I didn't understand [...] I would redeem credit cards or gift cards and buy, like, clothes... I really wouldn’t buy anything.” [04:08]

Parental Pressure, Dropping Out, and Streaming Origin

• Jason describes the pressure to be a “model Asian son,” with parents urging him towards safe professions. He initially stayed in college, not revealing his streaming income until his first big "Subathon."
  • “I was really more scared of disappointing them.” [06:21]
  • Managed academics, a relationship, and streaming (“getting like four hours sleep. It was horrible. But I was so obsessed with streaming”). [07:15]
• Used a UCLA program as a cover story to move out for streaming (“they believed me”). [07:29]
• First big moment convincing his family: bought them cars after a major streaming payday: “I bought my mom a 2025 Lexus, bought my dad a nice Ford truck, and I bought my aunt a Lexus SUV...” [11:32]
• Key turning point: “First subathon, I made around like 600k.” [12:16]

Mindset, Burnout, and Family Motivation

• Jason emphasizes his obsession and “living in the present” as the keys to his rapid success, not five-year plans.
• Motivation rooted in the desire to provide for his aging parents (his father had him in his late 40s, now in his 70s).
  • “That was my main motivator — my parents.” [13:38]
• Recounted first viral TikTok (2M views) during Covid: “That dopamine hit my brain and I was like, oh, I gotta keep going, got to keep going.” [15:50]

Streaming vs. 9 to 5: The Workload and Pressure

• Lively debate with hosts about whether streaming is “harder than a 9 to 5.”
  • “With streaming you always got to keep your head afloat, right? You always have to stay on top of the game...” [17:55]
  • Host Graham: “Streaming is harder than a 9 to 5. You have to be a self-starter, self-motivated, consistent. You have to battle every single odd out there...” [18:35]
• Jason's daily life: gym, streaming, group strategy calls with his creative and tech team, constant brainstorming to keep content fresh. [19:55]
• “If I’m not streaming, I’m on a call with my team talking about my future streams... I'm always trying to think of the next big thing.” [19:33]

Big Project Spending: The $270K “Stranded on an Island” Stream

• Upcoming content: spending $270,000+ on a week-long survival challenge on a rented island, inspired by MrBeast and Ryan Trahan, with live chat-triggered “punishments” planned.
  • “As a streamer...I got to survive seven days straight on an island with minimal gear.” [21:04]
  • “I spent over like $270,000 on this idea because it’s just straight production. No cameraman, just me surviving.” [21:37]
• MrBeast advice: “Stay consistent and be obsessed...be delusional to the point where it’s not delusion.” [48:29]
• On financial risk: “I’m streaming not to make money, but to make good content and entertain.” [50:41]

FaZe Clan, Content Houses, and the Business of Collaboration

• Joined FaZe via Stable Ronaldo, motivated by the dream of a content house, likening it to Sidemen or Beta Squad.
  • “The idea of a content house was always one of my dreams...let’s leave my dream, just make content together.” [38:30]
• On leaving FaZe: “On the business side of things, we just always had our differences...it was like a breakup. It was better if we both just split.” [41:14]
• Now living with a group of creators (no longer under FaZe brand), splitting $12k/month LA rent per person. [42:36]
• Acknowledges very few content houses survive (“Sidemen, Beta Squad, Bop House” are exceptions) and highlights the huge earning power of top creators (Sophie Rain $100M+, “printing money”).

Finance: Monthly Earnings, Spending, Regret, and Advice

• Income breakdown (per hosts’ estimates, which Jason says are “scary accurate”):
  • Twitch (20k subs, sponsors): $100k–$120k/month
  • YouTube: ~$40k–$50k/month
  • Snapchat: ~$15k–$20k/month (shared with team)
  • TikTok: Pays editors; little direct income [57:14–58:04]
  • “Probably making right now like 200 grand ish or so per month before expenses.” [59:01]
• Largest 24-hour stream: $30–$40k in five hours. [59:16]
• On feeling rich: “I do, yeah...to be able to just like, like Apple pay and not look at my bank account.” [60:04, 63:11]
• Turning point: started feeling “financially free” at $20k–$30k/month. [63:36]
• Discussed challenges of financial literacy among creators and the need for discipline, particularly with taxes, gifts, and high spending.
  • “Content creators...are very financially illiterate...they don’t consider taxes...they’re frivolous with their money.” [66:15]
• Admits early mistakes: “That 600k kind of got depleted because I just bought three cars...did not take taxes in consideration.” [67:15]
• Car choices: Regrets depreciation but makes content from purchases (“Maybach Monday”). [69:24, 69:31]
• On investing: Leaves it to a financial team, admits lack of personal knowledge but openness to learning. [80:48, 81:10]

Mental Health, Burnout, and Internet Criticism

• Highlights the psychological toll of streaming: frequent burnout, public scrutiny, constant doubt in downturns.
  • “It’s a lot of self-doubt, right?” [29:13]
• Least favorite part: parasocial viewers “trying to micromanage” his life, especially around relationships.
  • “People on the Internet that judge you...it’s creepy and weird.” [30:07]
• Cites advice to keep relationships private (from Ludwig, Cutie Cinderella, Rug): “Public relationships...lot healthier and less toxic online.” [31:28]
• Acknowledges online drama—streaming is “the new reality TV,” with both opportunity and “toxic” culture. [53:55–54:56]

Financial Discipline, Regret, and Influence

• Admits abandoning frugality after moving to LA, feeling pressured by peers and the content grind to spend and “invest in himself.”
  • “I was going to get a little Civic out here, but then...my homie Silky was like, yo, you need a Civic? You need a… Put a Civic in a garage full of supercars.” [75:10]
• Spending highlights: sometimes $300k/month when investing heavily in content (e.g., event months). [79:17]
• On what’s frugal: “No. That’s why I said I feel rich, because I kind of just swipe my card and I’m okay.” [79:07]
• On giving to family: “Sometimes more money equals more problems…when your family sees you making all this money, they ask for money...” [64:24]

Networking, Fame, and Community

• Iconic opportunities from LA networking: random FaceTimes with MrBeast, run-ins with NBA players, surreal realization for 15-year-old self. [46:34]
• Most “fangirl” moment: meeting xQc and MrBeast at events. [47:17]
• Largest inspiration in closet circle: friends/creators (Kai Cenat, Speed, Ronaldo, etc.) and industry role models.
  • “We all have the same goal of trying to be the best and that motivates me and I'm sure it motivates them.” [35:19]

The Streaming Meta: Trends, Reality TV, Future Concerns

• Streaming as reality TV, intense drama culture (e.g., Kai Cenat breakups), constant speculation and rumors.
  • “I think streaming is turning into reality TV… the drama is insane right now. I think the streaming space has been really toxic, I'm gonna be honest.” [53:55]
• On business sustainability: Warns how quickly “absurd income” can dry up, importance of saving and investing for the inevitable dry spells or disruptions (like AI replacing influencers).
  • “There’s kind of just a limited window to create generational wealth, but no one is capitalizing off that. And five to ten years, maybe influencers will be replaced by AI...” [70:02]

Family, Relationships, and Personal Values

• Family is central—motivates his grind, yet also a source of pressure and guilt about time and money. [13:38, 92:45]
• Skeptical about trust, particularly in LA’s networking-driven, competitive environment.
  • “In the entertainment industry... it's hard to find people that truly want to be friends for you.” [87:36]
• Expresses insecurities (height—“five seven and a half, round up” [88:47]), moments of gratitude and self-awareness, and insistence on avoiding alcohol due to allergy and productivity cost.

Lightning Round & Streamer Tier List

• “Would you quit streaming for $20 million?” — “No, I wouldn’t. ‘Cause that’s my passion. I think I would just be sad.” [95:56–96:12]
• Fast answers: Biggest financial flex (“My Maybach...House back in Texas.” [91:13]); Main bucket list item (“$10 million Texas mansion.” [91:19]); Secret to a happy life (“Being content with what you have.” [94:47])
• Gives a rundown of top streamers, putting Aiden Ross, Kai, Ninja, Speed, XQC, Tyler1 in S-tier. [97:50–106:12]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Motivation:
  “My main motivator was my parents. My dad’s like 70 and I'm 21. So in my mind, I was like, yo, I gotta make money quick so I can provide for them...” [13:38]

• On Streaming vs 9-5:
  Host: “Streaming is harder than a 9 to 5. You have to be a self-starter, self-motivated, consistent...Every single day, that's a lot of jobs.” [18:35]
  Jason: “With streaming, you always got to keep your head afloat, right? You always gotta stay on top of the game...” [17:55]

• On Burnout & Trolls:
  “With streaming and content creating in general, it's ups, downs, and, you know, it's a lot of downs... a lot of self doubt.” [29:13]
  “People on the internet... try to micromanage your life. Like, ‘Oh, I seen you treat this your girlfriend like this on, on stream.’” [30:07]

• On Money & Risk:
  “That 600k kind of got depleted because I just bought three cars...did not take taxes in consideration at all.” [67:15]
  “I’m streaming not to make money, but to make good content and entertain.” [50:41]

• On The Streaming Meta:
  “Streaming is turning into reality TV...the drama is insane right now. The streaming space has been really toxic, I'm gonna be honest.” [53:55]
  “I think in LA, there’s parties where…the stereotype is like, ‘how many followers you got? Yeah, you can come in.’ Like, that’s a real thing.” [88:16]

• On Gratitude:
  Host: “What is the secret to a happy life?”
  Jason: “Being content with what you have.” [94:47]

• On Being Outpaced by Tech:
  Host: “Five to ten years, maybe influencers will be replaced by AI and then...[Creators] all have to work like normal jobs.” [70:02]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:03] – Early money hustle (NFTs, crypto, sneakers)
• [06:21, 07:15] – Parental pressure, college story, subathon
• [11:32, 12:16] – First major streaming payday; gifting family cars; $600k month
• [17:55, 18:35] – Is streaming harder than a 9 to 5?
• [21:04, 21:37] – The $270,000 “stranded on an island” stream
• [29:13] – Mental health, burnout, and self-doubt
• [31:28] – Keeping public relationships private
• [35:19] – Inspiration from creator friends and healthy competition
• [42:36] – LA rent cost: $12,000/month per person
• [50:41] – “Streaming not to make money, but to make good content”
• [63:36] – “Financial freedom” at $20k–$30k/month income
• [66:15, 67:15] – Financial illiteracy, losing money to spending/taxes
• [81:10] – Investing (“I literally just have a team that does everything...”)
• [88:47] – On insecurities and being a “pretty secure person”
• [94:47] – “The secret to a happy life”
• [95:56–96:12] – Would you quit streaming for $20M? (“No, I wouldn’t.”)

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Final Thoughts

This candid, sometimes hilarious, and occasionally sobering episode traces JasonTheWeen’s rise from hustler to streaming star, offering real talk on the financial, emotional, and relational realities few see behind viral videos and million-dollar pay days. Whether discussing content strategy, money mistakes, burnout, or the future of the creator economy, Jason’s voice will resonate for anyone chasing the wild new American dream online—or just curious what really happens when “they offered me $1,000,000!”

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Notable Closing Quote:

“Sometimes more money equals more problems…when your family sees you making all this money, they ask for money.” — JasonTheWeen [64:24]

Transcript

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[Host 2]

I saw on a podcast you mentioned you're frugal.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, I was.

[Host 1]

And what happened?

[Jason the Ween]

Things change.

[Host 1]

The Streamer's Choice award goes to Jason the Ween.

[Jason the Ween]

Sometimes more money equals more problems. Jimmy. Welcome back to the Maybach. Yes. I don't think I've ever been in one before.

[Host 1]

Did you always know that you were gonna be successful?

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, honestly, I was just really obsess with making it as a streamer. With streaming, you always got to keep your head afloat, right? You always got to stay on top of the game and be obsessed to be successful. I'm streaming not to make money, but to entertain.

[Host 2]

What's your least favorite part of your job?

[Jason the Ween]

Oh, my. The drama is insane.

[Host 1]

What happened to Faze?

[Jason the Ween]

So there's a lot I can't speak about, but I'll say this.

[Host 2]

Jason the Ween, thank you so much for coming on the Iced Coffee Hour.

[Jason the Ween]

I appreciate you for having me. I'm ready to answer some questions or whatever y' all got for me.

[Host 2]

Okay, so you're fascinating because you kind of played up to be somewhat of a fool online, but I think you're incredibly strategic and maybe even a content genius. In fact, one of the things that was a big part of your brand was debating whether or not you should drop out of college for a long time. How much were you making as a college student?

[Jason the Ween]

Before I even went into my content journey, I was doing a lot of, like, NFTs and like, crypto, that type of stuff. Because I was always trying to make money quick in a way. Like, my mindset was always like, my parents are getting old. I gotta make money fast. Like, and to me, that was like the Internet or. Or online businesses. And I would, like, bought shoes. I was like a scalper. I was one of those. No way. Yeah.

[Host 1]

What shoes were you buying?

[Jason the Ween]

I was buying, like, whatever was on the Supreme Drop or dunks. Whatever. Whatever was Literally popular. I was. I was a big shoe head at the time.

[Host 2]

But were you making money doing that?

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, I was. I was profiting make. I was buying, like, easy boost. I was literally just, like, scalping what I was like, in a discord called Hidden nft. And they would. They would, like, ping me. Oh, there's a drop on this day. And then. And then it slowly became like an NFT discord with mint NFTs and flip them and hold them.

[Host 1]

What's the most you made?

[Jason the Ween]

I made well over six figures.

[Host 2]

No, wait, before content.

[Jason the Ween]

Before content. Holy 16, 17. And I made over six figures and eth was at like 4 or 5k or no, 4k, I think. And I was balling out. I was feeling good. But then ETH went all the way down to 1k and NFTs died, and I kind of just held.

[Host 1]

So what.

[Host 2]

How you.

[Host 1]

So you lost all the profit?

[Jason the Ween]

No, I put most of it into Solana. Now, like, all my. I don't really do crypto anymore at all. All my money's in Solana, but I had, like, this gambling phase with my. With my streams, and I would just bet on NBA playoff games, and I lost a lot of my ETH doing that, so do not gamble.

[Host 2]

So this was before content, though. You were already making pretty good money online doing, like, the NFTs and stuff.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the. But the gambling part was when I was.

[Host 2]

That was when you're already streaming.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host 2]

So then what did you ball out on once you made all of this money on crypto and NFTs?

[Jason the Ween]

I didn't buy anything because I didn't understand, like, I mean, I would literally go on this website, actually, and it was called Bit Refill, and I would redeem credit cards or gift cards and buy, like, clothes, and I. I really wouldn't buy anything.

[Host 2]

What does that even mean?

[Jason the Ween]

Wait, wait, is like, you. You pay for gift cards in crypto and I. It'd be like doordash. Uber Eats.

[Host 2]

So, Sketch, it literally sounds like you were either getting scammed or you were scamming someone. That just sounds scam.

[Host 1]

This is scam.

[Jason the Ween]

No, there's no scam there'.

[Host 2]

I don't know what it is, but it sounds like it was a scam somewhere.

[Jason the Ween]

You could look at the website.

[Host 1]

Okay.

[Jason the Ween]

I think it's still around.

[Host 2]

That's hilarious.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, I was just like. My friend put me on. I wasn't even that, like, smart in that field. I would literally follow the discord and then.

[Host 2]

And it worked.

[Jason the Ween]

It worked.

[Host 2]

Yeah, it Literally sounds like you were just existing. And then some guy's like, hey, man, come check out this way to make a lot of money.

[Jason the Ween]

And you're like, okay, my friend for the elementary school just put me on. I was like, yo, I seen him doing NFTs. And he sent. And he told me, make a metamask wallet. And he sent me $300 in ETH. And then I just ran that up. It's. It's actually kind of crazy. How much?

[Host 1]

So you turned 300 into a hundred thousand dollars.

[Jason the Ween]

It was, it was crazy. It was crazy.

[Host 2]

Where is your friend now?

[Jason the Ween]

He's actually in Puerto Rico wearing full chrome hearts, living the crypto millionaire life.

[Host 1]

I'm.

[Host 2]

I'm.

[Host 1]

So he made it.

[Jason the Ween]

He made it.

[Host 2]

What did, where did he make all of his money?

[Jason the Ween]

Crypto. I, I meme coins.

[Host 2]

Just buying the right ones.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah. Flipping them. I. I don't know what he's doing now.

[Host 2]

It's crazy how many influencers, content creators, whatever you want to call them, make a lot of money in crypto before they do their YouTube stuff. Because even Togi, we were talking to him, and in high school, he had made close to like a million dollars in Pepe coin.

[Jason the Ween]

Wow.

[Host 2]

Like, he literally just hail married into Pepe. Whatever you want to, however you want to pronounce it. And he made close to a million dollars. And then of course, he spent it all.

[Jason the Ween]

Hey, I gambled on mine away, so.

[Host 1]

So why not drop out of college?

[Jason the Ween]

Well, I'm first generation. My parents were super old, traditional Asian parents. And I'm sure y' all hear the stereotypes. It's like, go to school, be a doctor, be a lawyer, be this, be that. And I was really more scared of disappointing them. So I was waiting until, like. Because they didn't even, like, when I said I made this. In crypto, they don't believe in crypto money. Like, they think it's like fake money in a way, and that it's like, then it'll go down, all the way down the next day. And, like, it's not real money. So I didn't drop out because of that. And I was managing it at the time. Like, I was a. I was a business student, you know, so it wasn't that hard. And I would also cheat.

[Host 1]

Did your parents know you cheated?

[Jason the Ween]

No, no, no. But I, I managed.

[Host 1]

They know now.

[Jason the Ween]

They know now that I managed school streaming. And I was in a relationship at the time. It was, it was, I was getting like four hours sleep. It was horrible. But I was so obsessed with Streaming. I just had fun doing it. And yeah, I. I dropped out when I finally did the first phase subathon. I'm not in phase anymore, unfortunately. But first phase subathon, I told my parents there's a UCLA program, online program out there and I gotta move out there for a month. And they believed me. So if y' all don't know what a subathon is. Streaming every day, every night for 30 days. Well, it was capped at 30 days, but, yeah.

[Host 1]

Weren't you worried that they would see you online and, like, wait a second, he's supposed to be in this UCLA program. Why is he online chronically 15 hours a day?

[Jason the Ween]

I was, but I just told him, like, everything. All the schoolwork was online, so I did it online and I. And then I streamed.

[Host 2]

So, I mean, to me, like, I just think, okay, well, your parents have friends, their friends have kids, the kids see you online. Like, somehow the information is going to get to them.

[Jason the Ween]

They saw me, they saw me. But I would always tell them, like, they would literally call me. They would literally call me on stream and they'd be like, did you do your homework at. And I'd be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I did my homework. But at this time, I already, like, dropped.

[Host 2]

Okay. So I'm curious, with streaming, how much were you making as a streamer while in college?

[Jason the Ween]

While in college, I was probably making not a crazy amount. Like, what. I mean, this is good. But compared to what I make now, obviously, is I was making like 5 to 10k. Okay. Every month? Various.

[Host 2]

Okay, then that's. I mean, that's still really strong.

[Jason the Ween]

That's still really good. But I think I could have managed college at the same time.

[Host 1]

So what do you tell your parents in terms of what you do? How do you explain this to them?

[Jason the Ween]

I literally say that I just, like, make videos, dumb videos on the Internet. And for the longest time, even my cousin, who is, you know, there's always that golden boy in the family. And when it comes to, like, Asian parents, it's like, oh, you got to grow up and be like him, right? But then that was my cousin. And my cousin had told me, stop making TikTok. Stop doing all this. Your digital footprint. That it was. It was. It was bad. And I was like, a lot of the times demotivated because if I didn't have support, but I just. I don't know, I just had fun doing it and I just kept going.

[Host 2]

Does any part of you wish that you didn't come up in the way that you did on TikTok. Because I remember I was seeing your TikToks like before I even saw your streaming or anything and it was like these like, like, like, I don't even know how to describe it, like cringe bait sort of stuff. And. And that still exists online?

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host 1]

Digital footprint, man.

[Jason the Ween]

Cooked. My digital footprint is pretty cooked. But listen, honestly, no, because that to me was funny and I liked. I don't, I don't mind being a butter joke at all. And it got me to where I'm at today. So you know, I'll do it over again if I need to.

[Host 1]

What did success look your parents, what did, what did they have in mind for you and what did your cousin do by the way? That they're like, you got to be like your cousin.

[Jason the Ween]

Oh, my cousin was like a computer engineer. Okay, so he was successful. I think he worked for Charles Schwa Schwab.

[Host 1]

Okay, so good finance, we like Charles.

[Jason the Ween]

Schwab shout out to my cousin. But yeah, my parents just like, you know, success to them it was like a steady income every single year, A good office job or doctor or literally any stereotypical Asian parent thing.

[Host 2]

At what point were your parents fully on board with what you're doing?

[Jason the Ween]

So after the first subathon that I did, which was September of 2023 or 2020, 2024, after I went home and I finally told them the truth after I bought them cars.

[Host 1]

So it took a car. What car did you buy?

[Jason the Ween]

I bought my mom like a 2025 Lexus, bought my dad like a nice Ford truck and I bought my aunt Alexis suv. It was like, you know, the typical Asian car.

[Host 2]

How did you afford that though, if you're making five to $10,000 a month?

[Jason the Ween]

No, no, no. First subathon I made, this was like two one and a half years into my streaming career and it was the face hub a thon first face upon after I joined Face. So like I kind of skipped the timeline a bit. That month I made around like 600k.

[Host 2]

600,000. And you were you in college then?

[Jason the Ween]

No.

[Host 2]

You were out of college?

[Jason the Ween]

I was out of college.

[Host 2]

So you made $600,000 in the first phase of it though?

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, yeah, it was a good month for me.

[Host 1]

Did you always know that you're going to be successful?

[Jason the Ween]

No, honestly, I don't like for me people like map out their next five years or whatever, but I really live day by day and like I plan for the year. I don't, I don't like look five years in the future, like I want to do this in five years or 10 years down the line, I want to do this in 10 years. Like, I focus on the present. To be honest. That's my mindset.

[Host 2]

Do you think that that mentality is the one that served you to help you get to, like, where you're at right now? Like, that is the main thing or like, what made you any different than other people that do the same thing?

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, honestly, I was just really obsessed with being a streamer and making it as a streamer. And I just was. Every day after after school or whatever it was, I would just plan, plan, plan, and I would literally sacrifice times with my time, with my friends, even family, and just think of ideas or I'd be streaming of a lot of.

[Host 2]

The people that we have on this podcast, we've noticed that hunger is kind of one of the main things that helps people be super successful. You don't even have to worry about motivation because you just want something so bad that it just seems like the obvious thing to do is to work on it. Where do you think your hunger came from?

[Jason the Ween]

Mentioned this earlier. My parents obviously, I mean, not obviously, they're on the older side. Like, my dad had me when he was like late 40s. Mom was like early 40s. So now my dad's like 70 years old and I'm 21. So in my mind I was like, yo, I gotta make money quick so I can provide for them and buy them the things that would make them happy at a young age so they don't like, you know, they don't pass before I'm able to do those things. So that was like my main motivator was my parents.

[Host 2]

So what was the first piece of content you posted online?

[Jason the Ween]

I was trying to be a YouTuber. Those videos are lost. I don't know where where that.

[Host 2]

But they exist online.

[Jason the Ween]

They exist somewhere on the Internet if someone can find them. They might be privated, actually. But I was like, probably like 13, 14 just making. I was just talking to myself on YouTube or maybe it was musically or trailers. Oh my gosh. Yeah.

[Host 1]

Who was your inspiration back then? Like, who would you watch?

[Jason the Ween]

I would watch a lot of Ryan Higa OG YouTubers, Vanoss Ricegum. Yeah. And I would. I'd be early in the Twitch. I. I would watch like Raj Patel. LOL. Tyler1 all Tyler1. Yeah, I would watch Greek God X. I really, I was just like an Internet kid. I was always on the Internet because I was the only child. I don't know, I didn't really go outside I'm gonna be honest.

[Host 2]

Do you remember the first time you went viral?

[Jason the Ween]

Yes. It was on TikTok. Posted a video. It was Covid. I told my friend, we made a bet. I told my friend, I bet you I can get a viral video before we get back to school next week. Obviously we didn't get go back to school next week, but I made a TikTok. It was me at the free throw line and the caption was what Asian kids hear at the free throw line. And it was me like saying Jeremy Lin and Yao Ming. So it was just a dumb video.

[Host 2]

And I just popped off.

[Jason the Ween]

It got like 2 million views and that dopamine hit my brain and I was like, oh, I got to keep going, got to keep going. And I just had the cringy shit happened. And yeah, never stopped.

[Host 2]

What was the cringiest video you made?

[Jason the Ween]

This video 4 poses. My chat knows about this. I went on like all fours and like I posed in like a dumb outfit, got like 3 million views.

[Host 2]

Did you ever film a video that was too cringy, you couldn't post it?

[Jason the Ween]

No, I posted every cringy.

[Host 2]

You did not care.

[Jason the Ween]

I went for cringe. Like that was my niche was cringe. That's what got the views for me. So I posted everything and then after I'd post, I just like hit one of these and then go on with my day.

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[Host 2]

Is streaming harder than a 9 to 5?

[Jason the Ween]

This question. Ah, man. Is streaming harder than a 9 to 5? I would, it just depends on the 9 to 5. Like if it's obviously like doctors, surgeons, way harder than streaming. But like fast food workers, I would say nine, nine to five is easier because you know, with streaming you always got to keep your head afloat, right? You always gotta stay on top of the game. And if you're, if you're, if you're not streaming, you gotta think about streaming. You gotta like be obsessed to be successful. But overall, I think streaming is definitely easier. I mean I can, I don't think so.

[Host 1]

I'm gonna, I'm gonna be on record saying streaming is harder than a 9 to 5.

[Jason the Ween]

Really.

[Host 1]

You have to be a self starter, self motivated, consistent. You have to battle every single odd out there. You have to basically compete with tens of thousands of people every single day. That's a lot of jobs though. You have to be hr, editing, marketing, design, ideation.

[Host 2]

The only reason why people say streaming is easier than nine and five is because you make a lot more money streaming. Like if streamers were not making the money they were making and you're just making like average incomes, people probably not be saying the same thing.

[Jason the Ween]

I mean they just, it just depends on the 9 to 5. Like 9 to 5 workers, like someone at McDonald's, like they don't really do that much, you know, shout out to my burger flippers. But you know, I feel like me as a streamer like is way, like way harder than a burger flipper at McDonald's, right?

[Host 2]

How many hours you work per week?

[Jason the Ween]

I don't even know. But I'm very obsessed. Like if I'm not streaming, I'm on a call with my team talking about my future streams. And I've been planning out a lot of big. I've been always trying to think of the next big thing.

[Host 1]

Like walk us through an average day, like what time do you wake up? How, how long do you stream? When do you come up with ideas? Do you ever just like wake up one day and you're like this? I just don't feel like doing this?

[Jason the Ween]

No, I mean, I've been burnt out before. But I always push through like I don't know, I think it's the obsession. It just pushes me through. But average day of my, of Jason Ween, I. I wake up around like 10. Ideally I would go to the gym. Now I'm on my fitness arc. Nice. Go to the gym. And then I would go to the xphase house and I would just stream. And then after stream I would hop on a call with my team who consists of my creative, my tech person Woj, my creative Siggy, and also my editor and my assistant Lou. And we just brainstorm, map out the week, the month, even, you know, the next couple months. And yeah, that, that'd be all. And then I go. And then I just go to sleep and then repeat. Really? That's my schedule. Nothing, nothing crazy. I don't really go out at all. And unless I'm traveling, that's basically my life.

[Host 1]

How do you keep the streams fresh though? And interesting because I feel like you always have to one up it with streaming.

[Jason the Ween]

You got to have a balance of like desktop with your community and keep your cords height. But also try to think of the next big thing to cater to the bigger audience. So in these meetings is what I'm talking about like, oh, tomorrow what am I doing? Like and next week what am I doing? I've been planning this seven day stranded idea where I'm put on an island by myself, right. And as a streamer. I mean look at me, I'm not a survival expert, right? I got to survive seven days straight on an island with minimal gear. And I spent over like $270,000 on this idea because it's just straight production. No cameraman, just me surviving.

[Host 1]

What do you spend $270,000 on?

[Jason the Ween]

I have the PDF is just the production crew, 24 hour medical assistant just in case I get bit by anything crazy. Hopefully not. Or e. Yeah. And the island itself, where do you rent an island? I had my team look for me, but there was a lot of options. You can really to rent the whole. No, Epstein, you can literally get any island in the world if you have enough money. But my island, it was around like 100, 125. For a week.

[Host 2]

For a week?

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Is there anything on the island, like bathrooms or like a hut or is it just like a straight island?

[Jason the Ween]

It's pretty like tropical. Not really any civilization. Civilization on the island.

[Host 2]

Are you gonna get food? How are you gonna get food? Water?

[Jason the Ween]

Like I gotta climb coconut trees. I'm living off coconuts.

[Host 1]

So you, you scouted out the island to make sure there's, like, enough food on the island. You could survive.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, wo's my tech guy, my prop, my. My production guy. He actually was just on the island yesterday. Checked it out, scoped out the area like, oh, the camera's gonna be right here. Camera's gonna be right here. And I'm trying to create, like, a chat box, a literal box where I can go in and read the chat for.

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[Jason the Ween]

A minimal amount, Nothing crazy. I don't know. I'm still working out the ideas, the creative.

[Host 1]

You know what I think you should do? I liked Ryan Trahan, where if someone donates, like, 50k, something happens. It's like a punishment.

[Jason the Ween]

Oh, yeah, that's that old punishment.

[Host 1]

I would like to see. Yeah, I would like to see if someone gives you, like, 10k or 20k or 50k or like, a certain dollar amount or like, something happens to you where you have to spend, like, another day on the island. Like, it's like 50k and you spend another day on the island.

[Jason the Ween]

Seven days or, like, already.

[Host 1]

Or maybe it's 100k, but it's got to be an amount where, like, you spend another day on the island or like, you get your coconuts taken away or like, something like no water for 24 hours.

[Jason the Ween]

Like, you're going to be struggling something crazy.

[Host 1]

Or you can't slee. Like, I'm already have to be up, like, all night.

[Jason the Ween]

I was told there's sand fleas. I was told the bug situation is crazy. And I was talking to Mr. Beast about this because he's done the seven days on an island, done the deserted island videos, and he said it was the first video he ever had to leave and redo it was because of the bugs. It lasted two days on the island, and he was like, I can't do this anymore.

[Host 2]

And he how are you gonna fight the bugs then? Bug spray.

[Jason the Ween]

Mental fortitude.

[Host 1]

I don't think. I don't think it's fair to go to an island with bug spray like that. Seems to me that's cheating.

[Host 2]

Graham. Good luck surviving 20 minutes on an island.

[Host 1]

Are you doing it?

[Host 2]

Yeah, but either way, you cannot survive in a room that's under 68 degrees. Like, and you're gonna be like, oh, yeah. You can't survive with bug spray on an island. That's just crazy. He's already gonna be like, hungry, thirsty. Yeah.

[Jason the Ween]

But I do have. I'm trying to implement this idea. I might partner with a charity where, like, oh, if you. If I risk this amount of subs or donate a dollar amount, there'll be a care package with like, I don't know, some type of loot in the care package? Yeah.

[Host 1]

What other ideas have you had like this that maybe you've decided is too far?

[Jason the Ween]

I went skydiving. I mean, that's not that bad though. It wasn't that bad. That. That was pretty good.

[Host 1]

Like, would you ever bury yourself alive or do anything crazy like that?

[Jason the Ween]

Like two. That's too. I wouldn't do that. No. So props to Mr. Beach for doing that. I couldn't. That is terrible.

[Host 1]

What about like, Fear Factor where you're eating insects?

[Jason the Ween]

Oh, I've done that. That wasn't that bad.

[Host 1]

What have you eaten?

[Jason the Ween]

Crickets.

[Host 1]

Live.

[Jason the Ween]

No. Live. No. But I've eaten live octopus.

[Host 1]

What was that like?

[Jason the Ween]

It was disgusting. Where? Like in Korea. It was like. It squirted in my mouth. It was horrible. And never do it again. Yeah, when I swallowed, the tentacles were like, still moving. So.

[Host 1]

Why did you do that, though?

[Jason the Ween]

I'm. I'm a dumb streamer.

[Host 1]

How much was it?

[Jason the Ween]

I don't. It wasn't that much.

[Host 1]

Did you feel bad for the octopus? No, because they're pretty smart, you know?

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

They say the intelligence of an octopus is like a fifth grader.

[Jason the Ween]

Really? Yeah. Dang. I did not know that. Actually, maybe not.

[Host 1]

True. It is. Look it up.

[Host 2]

What are you even talking about?

[Host 1]

Look it up. A fifth grader?

[Host 2]

11 year old kid. The octopus is as smart as an 11 year old kid.

[Jason the Ween]

Oh, he's googling.

[Host 2]

Dude.

[Host 1]

You.

[Host 2]

What 11 year old kid are you talking about? Cause I hope it's not my son. I don't have a son, but if I eventually have one.

[Host 1]

Second grade.

[Jason the Ween]

Okay.

[Host 2]

Okay, that's cognitive.

[Host 1]

Oh, wow. Overall cognitive level is ages five to seven. Where they're advanced. There are skills that look like third to fifth grade plus sometimes better than adult humans. And that's problem solving puzzles, learning by watching others tools and spatial reasoning.

[Jason the Ween]

Well, he. He's in my stomach, so he must.

[Host 2]

Have been doing something wrong.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Okay, so technically a second grader. You ate a second grader I don't.

[Jason the Ween]

Know if I want to put it like that.

[Host 2]

That's crazy.

[Jason the Ween]

Wow.

[Host 2]

I still don't necessarily buy it, but.

[Host 1]

Octopus are very smart and that's why I've stopped eating octopus.

[Jason the Ween]

Really?

[Host 1]

Yeah. Because apparently they're very receptive to pain.

[Jason the Ween]

No.

[Host 1]

And when you kill these things, like, they actually seem to show awareness of what's happening to you.

[Host 2]

Feel guilty.

[Jason the Ween]

It's true, dude, I already ate him.

[Host 1]

Yeah, I know. I'm just saying now when, when I see octopus on the menu, I don't eat it anymore because I've seen these, these whole experiments showing like, how they think and how they understand. And there's like all these things within octopus where I feel like that's too smart. Like if it's a dumb thing or it just doesn't. Like, like, you know, like a jellyfish, there's no, no brain or anything like that. It's just, it just sells. So I could, I could rationalize eating a jellyfish, but an octopus just knows what's going on a little too much.

[Host 2]

Do you feel bad now?

[Jason the Ween]

I feel horrible. I ate a second grader.

[Host 2]

Aside from octopi and squid, now that you're traumatized, your trauma in regards to your work, what is the most mentally exhausting part of being a streamer?

[Jason the Ween]

I think it was streaming and content creating in general. It's ups, downs, and, you know, it's a lot of downs. And when you're at the downs, like, oh, what am I doing wrong? Like, it's a lot of self doubt, right? And it's like you got people telling you, oh, you fell off and all these things. But it's like one month, right? And you know, it could be January, it could be December. We have a bad month. But as long as the trajectory is up at the end of the year, then you're doing fine, right? And every content creator goes through the same thing and it's mentally taxing, right? You get burnt out when you don't see the results that you want. But as long as you're consistent and you keep going and you keep moving forward and thinking of new ideas, you will, as a content creator, be okay.

[Host 2]

What's your least favorite part of your job?

[Jason the Ween]

People on the Internet that judge you and, and try to micromanage your life. Like, oh, I seen you treat this, your girlfriend like this on, on stream, like there's no way you deserve her. Like, you should be buying her more flowers or, you know, just trying to like parasocial people. Two parasocial. It's Creepy and weird.

[Host 2]

If you as a viewer think you can read between the lines, I would say 99 of the time you are incorrect. You know, like I would just take most of what influencers tell you, or YouTubers, whatever you want to call them at face value with a healthy level of skepticism, and then that's it. Anything else, you're just completely speculating and you're probably wrong.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, I mean, I think those people should put their, put that time into like a job.

[Host 1]

What do you think is the biggest thing they've gotten wrong about?

[Host 2]

They need to get a job. Yeah. Streamer says you got to get a job, guys.

[Host 1]

What's the biggest thing you think they've gotten wrong about? Stuff like that?

[Jason the Ween]

Especially with my. My first relationship was very public. They would just say that she's cheating.

[Host 1]

Is that like to go to?

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, yeah. Especially twitch cultures like, oh, your girlfriend's cheating on you because she hang out with a guy one time.

[Host 1]

What's it like having a relationship just so public out there?

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, I mean, right now it's very public, but especially in the beginning when, when things were first starting out, it was way more public. And I had advice from Cutie and Ludwig and they've just said to keep it as private as possible. And obviously it's a public relationship and people know that we're dating. But I feel like now people don't really know what we do off the cameras and it's been a lot healthier and less toxic online.

[Host 2]

So everyone is extremely invested in my dating life, like concerningly invested. Yes, I see the comments. Yes, I've been on the dating apps and yes, I took a break. Eventually I came to the obvious conclusion that being on those dating apps and having the exact same boring conversation, like, what do you do for work? What are you doing out here? Made me tired without even going on the date. Which on the opposite end is exactly what I like about our sponsor, the league. It just feels way more intentional. I've used it before and the matches were consistently solid. You're not digging through hundreds of different profiles. You get a smaller filtered set every single day, which honestly feels like someone else did all of the homework for you. The league is thoughtfully curated to keep the community high quality and intentional, which is absolutely insane because somehow I made it on the app. I'm kidding. That's a self deprecating joke. But some people will not make it on the app because they're really selective with who gets on. Obviously that just means you're not there to rack up matches you're there to find the one that actually matters. Way less scrolling and way less small talk and more momentum towards something real. One of my personal favorite things about the league is their multi city dating. Because I happen to live in Las Vegas and I gotta be honest, it's not really my cup of tea to date out here. And I also happen to visit basically the exact same places all of the time for the podcast, of course. And so putting my location in all those other places has just been incredibly helpful. And it's just another thing that the league offers that all these other dating apps do not less noise, clearer signals, a smarter way to spend your time. The league find someone in yours. Apply today.

[Host 1]

Do you think streamers make more than YouTubers at this point?

[Jason the Ween]

I was actually at Rugs Faze. Rugs. Well, I guess not Faze anymore, but Rug's house yesterday and he showed me his earnings. I'm not gonna leave his earnings, but if you're averaging his views, he's clearing me at least every month.

[Host 2]

So, no, I think Rug, his lifetime earnings on YouTube, my guess has gotta be over 40 million for sure. Yeah. I would say. I would say close to 50 million is what I was thinking. Maybe a little bit higher, but like between 40 and. And 60.

[Host 1]

He is, in my opinion, one of the smartest, most financially responsible YouTubers with one of the best careers, the best work ethic, good investments, solid foundation, and he's just smart with it. Like, when it comes to anything financial, I would trust him.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Jason the Ween]

Oh, 100%. He has a whole real estate business.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Jason the Ween]

Then not a lot of people know about. Right? Yeah, he's doing his thing.

[Host 1]

And what advice does he give you?

[Jason the Ween]

He's helped me with public relationship. He just says to keep it private. I mean, I think most people say that, but financially, I haven't had a conversation.

[Host 1]

You don't ask about money advice. Like, he'd be the first one. I'd be like, if Rug, what do I do with this money? Like, where do I put?

[Jason the Ween]

I think he would just tell me to invest in property. And as basic as it sounds, that has made him an abundant amount of money. He's told me, and I'm like, just shocked. So definitely want to get more into property this year. Yeah.

[Host 2]

Rug, if you're watching this, we're huge fans. Come on the podcast.

[Host 1]

Love to have you on, man.

[Host 2]

We'll drive down to you. We were just in San Diego. Yeah. Anyways, love you, Rug, but who, who would you say you most take inspiration from? All I know, like who, who's your mentor now?

[Jason the Ween]

I think I take a lot of inspiration from like big streamers around me and like. Or could be around me or like Kai Speed or even people that I live with. Like you had him on this podcast. Stable Ronaldo, Lacy Marlin, Adapt Silky. Literally just people around me. I take inspiration. I see their worth ethic and it once. It also motivates me. It's like friendly competition in a way. Right. It just. I see them doing good, I see them putting effort in. It makes me want to do the same. Right. We all have the same goal of trying to be the best and that motivates, motivates me and I'm sure it motivates them.

[Host 1]

What was the appeal of joining Faze Clan? Like, how do they reach out to you? What was that like?

[Jason the Ween]

I was friends with Stable Ronaldo who was at the time was in faze. Obviously that whole thing happened and none of us are in phase anymore. But yeah, he was in phase and I developed a relationship with him online. We just playing games on stream. We met through a Twitch chat and we were just calling Discord play games and we got closer. I visited LA and I met him for the first time and we did some IRL streams out out here in la and yeah, I remember our first stream. We went to Venice beach and ate edibles like it was super stupid. And yeah, I just became close friends with Stable Ronaldo and he pitched me two phase and when they were launching the new phase, I was a part of it.

[Host 2]

And when did things start to get a little more serious between you and Ron?

[Jason the Ween]

Like serious as in like, like when did you guys.

[Host 2]

I'm sorry, when did you take it.

[Host 1]

To the next step? Like when did you and Ron make it official?

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Jason the Ween]

What would mean official? Like closer friends?

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Old guys become really close.

[Host 2]

It just. I don't know. We got some people DMing us some stuff, but no, we don't need it. We don't need to get into it.

[Jason the Ween]

So Stony.

[Host 2]

But you just made it seem like. Yeah, we started talking online and then like, you know what I mean?

[Host 1]

We met up in person.

[Host 2]

Really well, we kind of hung out.

[Host 1]

We're gonna put some romantic music behind this.

[Jason the Ween]

You are funny.

[Host 1]

But when did things get serious with.

[Jason the Ween]

You and on Closer Friends? Okay, I guess when we first moved into the first Phase LA house when we lived together, we just naturally talked more and. Holy.

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[Host 2]

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[Jason the Ween]

Maybe we. We both have girlfriends, but there might be something going on. No, I'm Just kidding. I'm just kidding. But yeah, the LA house, me and all the guys, we, we got closer. Jesus Christ. Okay. But yeah, that house.

[Host 2]

That's awesome.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

How does the business with Faze work? Is it like they, they would take a percentage of earnings or do they give you deals?

[Host 2]

What was in it for you to join Faze? Why did you.

[Jason the Ween]

I. I didn't have. They didn't give us like anything money wise, but like they would pay for production and rent in return and we would do just group sponsors and things like that. But yeah, just be the. The idea of a content house was always like one of my dreams. Like, you could probably find a clip of me somewhere where I'm back in Arlington, Texas, literally talking about, oh, I want to make a group with, with my friends. Let's leave my dream, just make content together. Like the sidemen or, or like these, these content groups where you literally just hang out with your record videos. That's literally the, the dream, you know, I mean, and, and hearing the LA face house, I was like, I'm down, I'm down. This sounds exciting, it sounds new, it's fresh. So let's do it.

[Host 1]

How much of an impact did that have in your career?

[Jason the Ween]

It had a huge impact. Right. Moving to LA and, and just meeting all these people, it was huge. Right. And when I first moved out to la, we, we all started to IRL stream a lot more. And I would argue that we popularized IRL streaming. We would literally just go to In n Out and play basketball just as a group and just have fun.

[Host 2]

Would you ever join another content house?

[Jason the Ween]

No. No. I mean, right now I live in a concert house, but there's no name behind it. It's just me, Ron, Lacy, Silky Adapt, and Marlon.

[Host 2]

And what content houses were actually successful? Like, very few have stood the test of time. I mean, you have sidemen, which I'm in a content house, but like they.

[Jason the Ween]

You know, that content group, I say Simon, the Beta Squad, the Bop House.

[Host 1]

Dude, they're printing.

[Host 2]

They are printing. I think. Sophia Rain, Sophie Rain. Sophie Rain just did a hundred million dollars. She just finally cleared $100 of earnings. Thank you.

[Jason the Ween]

I actually saw a Twitter post today saying she makes more than LeBron James in a year.

[Host 2]

She works pretty hard. I actually think she must be somewhat of a genius in order to be making the money she's making. Like, you can't just stumble upon making that much money in the way she's doing it. That's up for debate. But in order to actually go and be that productive. Economically productive. There has to be some or she's has the right people around her, you know.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah. I mean I feel like she's harder. Harder working than LeBron James.

[Host 2]

I'm joking. No, I don't think she's harder working LeBron James.

[Host 1]

What happened to Faze?

[Jason the Ween]

So there's a lot I can't speak about, but I'll say this. The business side, we as a group, we were always aligned. We always wanted to make content together and we were happy to be in the same house together making content. But on the business side of things, we just always had our differences and sometimes we would never align and that problem just never went away. And it was like a breakup. It was better if we both just split. Both.

[Host 1]

It just seems so sudden because when we had stable on, things were seeming to be on the up and up and that was like two months ago. And then it just seemed like it.

[Jason the Ween]

Was a build up. But a lot of it we didn't talk about. Obviously we were in phase up phase. And yeah, we just over time just realized like things were never going to work out on the business side of things.

[Host 1]

And what's it like now being out of that and like having to pay rent? Because I saw that one clip of the. Who was it who was talking about like having to pay like 17k in rent?

[Jason the Ween]

I think it was lacy.

[Host 1]

It was lacy.

[Jason the Ween]

That's a bit of an over exaggeration.

[Host 1]

Was it like 15k in rent? Like it's like 11.11k with utilities though.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

17.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, yeah. I mean it's the first time I'm paying rent. So.

[Host 1]

How much is rent?

[Jason the Ween]

It's like 12.

[Host 1]

You pay $12,000 a month.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah. In rent, which is pretty holy.

[Host 1]

That's a lot.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, that's a lot.

[Host 1]

Do you split that with anybody or that's just like. That's just not your portion?

[Jason the Ween]

No, the, the house is like split in between six people. So it's 12k per person.

[Host 1]

Holy. 12.

[Host 2]

$72,000 a month is what they're taking on the house?

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah. Holy.

[Host 1]

That's a big house.

[Jason the Ween]

That's a. Are they over huge house?

[Host 1]

Are they overcharging you? Because they see like six dudes and the guy's just like, hey, I'm not gonna rent to you, but If I get 72, 000amonth, sure.

[Jason the Ween]

I have no idea. Because Faze actually picked a house and they're like, yo, this is the, this is a new phase house. So we didn't really have a say in picking oh, it's, it's that house. It's the. Yeah. So the old offline TV house.

[Host 1]

Oh, it's not worth that really.

[Host 2]

He, he was in real estate. That was his thing here in la. Yeah, yeah.

[Host 1]

Yes, I was in real estate. I'm familiar with that property. Decent location. Yeah. But that, that to me, 70 to 80. No, I don't think it's worth more than 45 000amonth, which sounds crazy to say, but when you look at the carrying cost of that house and the property taxes of the house and how much they were trying to sell that house before in the past, that in my opinion, is what it's worth.

[Jason the Ween]

What that's.

[Host 1]

But listen, it's a great house. And listen, if you spend 7,000 or 12,000 and the big, it's not going to make that big of a difference.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

In your life you got a great house.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, it's a good house. But I think we're moving out soon.

[Host 2]

And is everyone going to get their own place?

[Jason the Ween]

That conversation has not been said yet. I think we all want to stick as a group and who knows, we might create something new. Don't know yet.

[Host 2]

Is Faze Clan completely over?

[Jason the Ween]

I think on the, on the content side of things. Yes. But they still have a whole like esports thing which is doing well.

[Host 1]

Crazy because they bought it back, right?

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah. But literally everyone left. Like, like adapt left. That's how you know it's over.

[Host 2]

I just, to me it sounds suspicious like, and especially how people are saying, oh yeah, I can't get into some details of it. Then it's like, okay, there probably is something more than just like a line item business thing where it's like, oh yeah, like we couldn't come to terms on this percent and then this cost, this profit. How are we splitting it? It seems like there was something else just from an outsider's perspective. And I feel like most people are probably thinking the same thing.

[Jason the Ween]

A lot I can't speak about. Not on the Internet. Not on the Internet.

[Host 1]

Fair enough.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

I'm curious though, through all of this, what's the craziest money opportunity that you've been offered?

[Jason the Ween]

I've been offered kick deals before, but I didn't take them because I don't think it's worth it.

[Host 2]

What are they offering you?

[Jason the Ween]

Like million dollar deals? I didn't really look into it. My manager just told me.

[Host 2]

So your manager came to you and said, I have a million dollar deal for you to stream on kicking. Like I'm not even gonna look at it.

[Jason the Ween]

Honestly, I, I, I don't remember. It was a while back, it was like way before even, even phase. I don't remember.

[Host 2]

So then those numbers were even more significant to you at the time?

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, they were. I actually considered it, but if I took it, I would definitely not be where I'm at today because I feel like it's hard to grow on that platform.

[Host 1]

Yeah, for sure.

[Jason the Ween]

And I don't think the platform like the mobile app to his ass, like I don't know.

[Host 2]

Yeah, but being a part of Faze, Faze's thing I feel like is being so well connected. Like I saw on someone's stream or it was a clip or something. Lamello Ball just like casually walking up to the Faze house.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

That's crazy.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

You guys contact list must be insane. I imagine there are opportunities just flooding your life. What would you say is like another crazy opportunity just due to the network you have?

[Jason the Ween]

I mean moving out here alone. Like I've met so many cool people, so many cool creators. Literally. Mr. Beast FaceTiming me randomly at the day, like, bro, that is surreal. Like 15 year old me would be freaking out, right? And yeah, I mean I met so many cool people. I met Bronnie James before. Trying to think. Who else? Yeah, I met Lamelo Ball.

[Host 2]

Who did you fangirl most over?

[Jason the Ween]

Loki, when I was on my come up. And like I was like a way smaller streamer when I would go to TwitchCon. Every big streamer I saw, I would literally just start jumping up and down.

[Host 2]

Was there one moment in particular you can think of?

[Jason the Ween]

I remember meeting xqc. You saved my life, but I was also on camera so I was, you know, exaggerating it a bit. Who else? Mr. Beast.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Jason the Ween]

My mind is drawing a blank.

[Host 2]

Who's the most famous person in your contacts?

[Jason the Ween]

Definitely Mr. Beast.

[Host 2]

Mr. Beast.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

You know he's more followed now than.

[Host 2]

Cristiano Ronaldo on all social media accounts.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, yeah, kind of.

[Host 1]

That's wild.

[Jason the Ween]

Insane. That's insane.

[Host 1]

I think he's going to be one of the most recognizable people in the world pretty soon, I think over the next 10 years.

[Jason the Ween]

Yes, he is.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

But even more so because now he's expanding into like, like every country in the world. His, his videos are like in like 30 languages or more at this point.

[Jason the Ween]

I saw, I saw what he's doing is he's building an empire and he's, he's actually gave pretty good advice to me about content creating and he's talked to me about his Obsession for being number one and, and just trying to create the best content and always one. Upping his last video.

[Host 2]

What did Mr. Beast tell you?

[Jason the Ween]

Just to stay consistent and be obsessed. Literally. I probably said that word maybe 30 times. Now. This video is to be obsessed with trying to be the best and be delusional to the point where it's not delusion. I take this advice from him to always invest back into your content. He said that he's lost money on videos before, spent millions of dollars on content. And that's why I'm doing the island thing. Like, I'm putting. That's the most money I've ever put into my content. I'm putting 300k almost on onto this idea, filming trailers. Like I'm putting so much money into this and you know, I could bleed and, and not make any money at all. And it could be horrible, it could go wrong. But, you know, I'm investing in myself and hopefully things go well.

[Host 1]

How much do you expect to make from the island?

[Host 2]

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[Jason the Ween]

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[Host 1]

Like if things go right, zero dollars.

[Jason the Ween]

Of that go even.

[Host 1]

Really? See, wait, the best case is you just breaking even.

[Host 2]

There's no way. If you're streaming on an island for seven days, I feel like the amount of virality, the potential there is crazy. If you just get like 40,000 subs, 50,000 extra subs, that's an element. I feel like it's doable like that you could be overnight getting crazy viewership because of all the clipping.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, I mean, I. I'm going into it thinking I'm just gonna go. I'm just trying to go even because I'm. I'm streaming not to make money, but to make good content and entertain.

[Host 2]

What about Kai Sanat? What did you learn from him? What do you think about him quitting YouTube as well?

[Jason the Ween]

I think Kai, great streamer great YouTuber. Definitely made streaming a lot more mainstream, especially in the US he pushed the limits of streaming and made streaming what it is now, and it's inspirational. I take inspiration from him and what he's doing now. I think, you know, I think his path is. Is pretty smart. I think he's a genius. Like, what he's doing. Like, he's already basically completed streaming. Hit a million subs. Did the mafia thon three? Yeah, he hit a million subs. I. I don't see him. What is he gonna do now? Right. I think in his mind, he completed streaming and now he found this new passion, which is fashion, and he wants to try and beat that boss.

[Host 2]

A million subs is crazy. I mean, if you're making $3 a sub, $3.50 a sub, you know, you could be pulling over $3 million.

[Jason the Ween]

Oh, yeah.

[Host 1]

Just from guess description, he has to spend a fortune, though.

[Jason the Ween]

Nah, he spent definitely a lot of money.

[Host 1]

Yeah. My guess is he probably has 25 to 30% profit margins on that. Just still a lot of money. But my guess, if he makes three, he's probably spending about two to two and a half. Yeah, I just like, Maine is having it.

[Host 2]

What was your incentive for doing this podcast is just more views to a different audience, more exposure online?

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, I would say that. And also I've seen stable Ronaldo do a senior clips as well. And Ron doing it makes me more.

[Host 1]

Comfortable doing It's a huge compliment, honestly, is that if we have someone on and they say, like, hey, I had a great experience. You should do it too. Like, that to me, makes me feel so good. Everybody benefits and we feel great knowing put, like, a good piece of content.

[Host 2]

Out there, you might experience the same thing. But even for us, like, we work super hard on our podcast, on our YouTube, on our work. But even then, I'm like, how are this many people watching our show? You know? Like, I'm like, are we really that entertaining, or can we provide that much value to viewers for them to want to tune in as regularly as they do? I don't know if you experience a similar thing.

[Jason the Ween]

I mean, I think people watch y' all because y' all are smart and y' all know how to articulate yalls words and. And when they consume yalls content, they learn something. People watch me because I'm just dumb and I do stupid on the Internet. It's, like, entertaining.

[Host 2]

But there's a lot that could be learned from studying you. Maybe not like, necessarily watching your content itself, but, like, seeing you as A person and your development, you know, you'd be a really. You're really big inspiration to a lot of people.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, I appreciate that.

[Host 1]

I think most people don't realize all the work and thought that goes into creating content like this and capturing so many eyeballs. And it's like, this is the new version of tv.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah. I think streaming is turning into reality tv. It is. Because, oh, my, the drama is insane right now. I think streaming. The streaming space has been really toxic, I'm gonna be honest.

[Host 1]

See, now you said it's similar to reality tv. Why has nobody come in there and just had a big house, cameras everywhere, 24 7. And they just have people come in, like five guys, five girls, and one person gets voted out every week. And then they have to, like, substitute someone. New island, any. Yeah, but you could tune in at any time.

[Jason the Ween]

Someone has done that.

[Host 1]

Really?

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, I think. I mean, not 24 7, but, like, that concept and idea.

[Host 1]

No, I want to be able to tune in at like one o' clock in the morning and just see the cameras and watch, like, the living room and again. But you have these, like, personality matches that are either gonna, like, clash. Like, I want fights to break out. I want, like, romantic relationships between the two. And then you see, like, I think.

[Jason the Ween]

DDG might have done that. He did. Like, I forgot what it was called, but something similar that. So I think it has been done. Yeah. I mean, streaming is the new reality tv and it's. It's created a very toxic environment. But I mean, it's still fun.

[Host 1]

What's so toxic about it?

[Jason the Ween]

Just quite recently, it was just Kai breaking up with his girlfriend and then the girlfriend making a video, talking about, oh, I didn't chi. And then I'm just. I'm just saying what I see on. On Twitter. Right? And then, you know, we got. Got everybody speaking on it because it's a. It's a hot topic. And, you know, people want to farm drama.

[Host 1]

But see, that's all it takes. I've noticed with Mr. Beast too, people will make these outrageous claims that get millions of views. And then he'll comment and be like, none of this is true. This is completely false. You're saying this just to get blown up on Twitter and then you get ad revenue from me.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, it's very annoying. And it's. It's weird because you can't really address it because then you put more attention to it. But then if you don't address it, like, oh, my God, did he actually do it like, it's so.

[Host 2]

It's like, yeah, what did it happen? Like, how were you misunderstood?

[Jason the Ween]

I don't remember exactly, but I don't know, like, sometimes Twitter captions, they can, like, twist your words. Or, like, I could be walking past a homeless man, and then the captions like, Jason the wing walks past homeless man and doesn't care for him. Or, you know, just, oh, wow.

[Host 1]

So whatever narrative they want, whatever they.

[Jason the Ween]

Want to put it, it's annoy. Very annoying, but you can't really speak on it or you put more attention into it. It's. It's. It's a lose, lose. But that's the game.

[Host 1]

Yeah. So how is your income broken down these days? Like, where is it all coming from?

[Jason the Ween]

Well, obviously, Twitch, YouTube. I do have a brokerage, but, yeah, Twitch, YouTube, Tik Tok, Snapchat, and. And that's literally all socials, really.

[Host 2]

All right, we're gonna guess how much money you're making on each and you're gonna tell us if we're right.

[Host 1]

Each.

[Host 2]

I like each. Well, we could do well, each and then total.

[Jason the Ween]

Okay. Okay, Twitch, like just by month. We're doing month.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Monthly income. Twitch, how many subs do you have? Right now?

[Jason the Ween]

I almost have about 20k.

[Host 2]

20,000. Okay, so probably like, do you have, like, sponsor streams ever? Okay, I would guess off of Twitch, you're probably making like 115, 110, 000amonth.

[Host 1]

I'm gonna say 120 with sponsors, YouTube.

[Host 2]

I would say you're probably making like 45. 45k a month. Do you have sponsors or no?

[Jason the Ween]

Sometimes I would say like, yeah.

[Host 2]

50K a month.

[Host 1]

50, yeah, yeah.

[Host 2]

And then Snapchat. I have no idea how much Snapchat makes. 30, I would say. Yeah, maybe like 15 to 20 on Snapchat. And then what are we missing? Brokerage. That's just like. It depends on how much you have invested.

[Jason the Ween]

TikTok.

[Host 2]

TikTok.

[Host 1]

TikTok.

[Host 2]

You prob. Five grand a month.

[Host 1]

Seven, maybe ten at the.

[Host 2]

Unless if you have sponsors, then it could be, you know, infinitely scale.

[Host 1]

10 at the most is my guess.

[Jason the Ween]

Y' all are pretty accurate. It's kind of scary.

[Host 2]

So. So how much are you making per month?

[Jason the Ween]

I don't want to say the exact amount that's gonna add it up, but. Yeah, I mean, you could add it up and really, if you doing the math, but for twitch, you said 100, 110, 115. That. That's was literally like pretty accurate. YouTube damn near on the dot. I would say like 40, 40, 45 and then tick tock. I actually don't make money. I put all that money into. I just pay my editors. Yeah, that money. Like I just give them all the creative rewards program. I just give them all the money. Snapchat, I give 50 to my cameraman. So honestly, it's sometimes weird. Like you can literally take the money out whenever you want. So I don't, I don't really know the monthly.

[Host 2]

So you're probably making right now like 200 grand ish or so per month before expenses.

[Jason the Ween]

Depends on the sponsor.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Jason the Ween]

Have a good sponsor and yeah. Yeah.

[Host 2]

What's the most you've made in 24 hours?

[Jason the Ween]

24 hours, I had a stream where I averaged like a hundred K viewers. I probably made 30 to 40.

[Host 2]

30 to $40,000 in 24 hours.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah. And it was probably like a five hour stream, six hour stream.

[Host 2]

So you were making like $5,000 an hour.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

In that stream.

[Jason the Ween]

Run at running good amount of ads. So that was a very blessed day.

[Host 2]

That's. And what did you spend that money on?

[Jason the Ween]

I don't really spend my money on anything crazy. Most of my money I put back into my content or pay my employees and maybe buy clothes sometimes, but that's about it.

[Host 1]

Do you feel rich?

[Jason the Ween]

I do, yeah. And I'm very blessed and I'm very grateful for what I have. And my parents always taught me to stay disciplined, stay grounded. And.

[Host 1]

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[Host 2]

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[Jason the Ween]

Hmm.

[Host 2]

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[Jason the Ween]

To be able to just be financially free. Like you know, you're. I feel rich because I'm able to just like, like Apple pay and not look at my bank account, right? And it's just like, okay, I'll pay for this And I'll not look at my bank account. Like, I'm very blessed to be able to do that and to be able to wake up at any time of day and just be okay.

[Host 2]

At what income did you get to that point of feeling so comfortable?

[Jason the Ween]

I would say, like, I. Like, probably when I started making, like, 20, 30k a month, I was, like, just buying food. I felt like a lot of people.

[Host 2]

Echo that same amount where they're like 20 to 30k, that's like 300 grand or so a year after taxes. You, you know, depending on where you're living, could be. If it's California, maybe you have like, 200 grand or so after taxes, and then after that, maybe 170. After that, you know, you have your rent payment, whatever. You could have a really nice place.

[Jason the Ween]

I didn't pay rent at the time, so I was just like, yeah.

[Host 2]

So then you had good 10k a month, basically, to just spend on whatever you want. Wanted.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Which is more than enough. I mean, it's hard to spend that amount of money.

[Host 1]

So did making that money solve the problems you thought it would solve?

[Jason the Ween]

Sometimes more money equals more problems in your case. Yeah. I mean, especially with family. Like, you know, when your family sees you making all this money, they ask for money and they're like, yo, can you do this? Can you do that? Can you do this for your uncle and your very distant cousin? I'm like, you know, I don't really know them. Right. But I'll do it because, you know, I'm in a position where I can. But, you know, and I guess that's.

[Host 1]

A slippery slope, man.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Once you start doing that and it becomes an expectation, like, they just start.

[Jason the Ween]

Asking for money, and I'll do it because, you know, it's family. But sometimes I feel like. Like, I don't know. I don't know.

[Host 2]

Kevin o' Leary said it best, I think, which is he will always give someone 50 grand if they need help with something and they need a lot of money. He'll be like, okay, I'll give you $50,000, but you will never be able to ask me for money ever again.

[Host 1]

Yeah, this is your one chance, and this is it.

[Host 2]

I promise you, I will only ever say no. Obviously, $50,000 is a lot. Kevin O. Is in a completely different financial position than all of us.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

But it's interesting. It's like, yeah, I'll help you out once, and that's it, you know, because you don't want them to become reliant on you, which is clearly just objective fact based off of everybody's like, people will become reliant on that income.

[Jason the Ween]

It's true. True.

[Host 2]

The one thing also that we always talk about, Graham and I, we discuss like in our car, random car rides, we're going to an event or something. When we were going to Beast premiere, we were talking and we're like, okay, a lot of content creators are making like a common income is between $50,000 a month.

[Host 1]

Month.

[Host 2]

And $300,000 a month. Like a lot of people fall within that window, which is absurd income. Like they're making so much money.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

The problem is they're very financially illiterate and so when they make a hundred grand, they think they have a hundred thousand dollars a month to spend and so they don't consider taxes. They live in probably California where taxes are very high, their rent is really high, their payments are high, their payroll grows out of control, they start giving money away, they're frivolous with their money. And people assume that if you're making 50 to 300,000 DOL dollars a month, then you're a millionaire. Or you have $2 million, $3 million. That money comes easily. But money takes a long time to save up post tax, first of all. And so even if you say, oh yeah, making $200,000 a month, I would venture to say that you have less than $5 million.

[Jason the Ween]

Yep.

[Host 2]

Like you, like I would say if I'm, if I'm pocket walking, pocket watching to the max. Like even when you had that $600,000 month and you've been making money since you were how old? Like good money money.

[Host 1]

17, 18.

[Host 2]

So like four years of earning like absurd income, it's probably like 3 million bucks maybe like if you're really smart with it, but it could be a million and a half.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah. I mean that month where I made that 65 first 600k the first, that was like my first, like really, really good month. I told you I bought my parents cars and I did not take taxes in consideration at all. And literally that money just disappeared kind of. Because I just bought three cars.

[Host 2]

Couldn't you write it off, make a video about it?

[Jason the Ween]

I did make a video about it.

[Host 2]

Couldn't you write it off maybe?

[Host 1]

Yeah. But then they have to report it as income, which is actually better.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

For you to lower without state income tax.

[Jason the Ween]

I mean, I didn't fully understand it at the time.

[Host 1]

Do you have an accountant who is telling you what to do or you just did it?

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, my accountant was like, you can't write it off unless you put the car under your name and, and they're like your employees, like my parents.

[Host 1]

There might be some rules with this of gifting certain things to family members. Like I see Steve will do it doing this all the time. And I'm thinking how on earth is he writing this off? Is he writing it off? If he's not, he's getting shafted so hard. He is paying so much money to the IRS to be able to give out these gifts.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, yeah. That month that, that 600k kind of got depleted because I think all the cars were like, it was probably like 200k in total. And then California buy used cars.

[Host 1]

Why new car? Why not get a three year old car, top of the line at half the price?

[Jason the Ween]

That's what I did for my Maybach. I bought 2023 and that because like 2026 and instantly depreciate.

[Host 2]

How much did you pay for your May back?

[Jason the Ween]

Paid like 230.

[Host 2]

230. What's it worth now?

[Jason the Ween]

No idea.

[Host 1]

One, it's, it's, it's probably worth about 121 30. Maybacks depreciate a lot Maybacks. Ideally you wanted like the old version. One year old, five year old. No, no, no. You want like a 2018 right now I think it's like a 42S Maybach and you could find those in like the 60s and those are like the cool long wheelbase those you won't lose.

[Jason the Ween]

A lot of money on the new.

[Host 1]

Ones, the DS Class rebadged Maybachs, you lose so much money on this.

[Jason the Ween]

You know I definitely.

[Host 1]

They look great though.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, they look good. And I got a series out of it Mayback Monday.

[Host 1]

Wow.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

So the problem though that we see is that people could be making like I was saying absurd income. But unfortunately social media is pretty fickle. Like it can come and go. It's not like you're building in most situations a real business with a product that you are refining and you have like a demographic that you're able to market to and you can have ad spend and then have a return on your ad spend. In social media, something random can happen and then end your career like this.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

And so that's why I always think, okay, if there's potentially a very limited window of making this amount of money, it should be one of the main priorities to make sure you're saving up as much post tax income and building your investment base as possible. But I feel like most influencers do not see it that way and so there's kind of of just like a limited window to create generational wealth, but no one is capitalizing off that. And five to 10 years, maybe influencers will be replaced by AI and then. Which probably won't happen, but let's just say they do. Some catastrophic, catastrophic event occurs and, you know, they all have to work like normal jobs or they, you know, that's.

[Jason the Ween]

I mean, even myself, I, I, I, I wouldn't say I'm like fully educated financially. Like, I don't really know, know, like the deep in the depths of that type of stuff. And I'd probably learn a lot from y', all, but I do have like a financial team and someone who manages my money and someone who does all that for me.

[Host 2]

Do they provide that to you?

[Jason the Ween]

No, no, no.

[Host 2]

So you found that on your own?

[Jason the Ween]

My manager found.

[Host 1]

Here's what I'd consider. I'd strongly consider moving to Miami, moving to Florida, get the zero state income tax.

[Jason the Ween]

That's what I heard. Yeah.

[Host 1]

Then in start saving 20% of your income and you could reinvest or spend 80, but you take 20% gross and you stash that away and you just invest it. That's it. And I'd say if you could, if. And all you have to do is say, hey, I gotta do this for five years. And after five years I'm set, set for life. I don't have to do this if it goes to zero, it doesn't matter. That's it.

[Host 2]

If you were to do that after five years, you would be at the point right now, you said 20 to $30,000 a month, you could get that passive where you don't even have to work anymore. And because you're so financially disciplined, you'd be able to have that.

[Host 1]

Yeah. By the time you're 30, you would be, you would have such a stack of cash that would replace what you're able to earn today working. And you could do that passively.

[Jason the Ween]

But anything. The thing was moving to Miami, content here is better. And that's why people fly here for content. Like la, like, like everybody's out here in la and the networking opportunities is better. Out in la, you got still, you.

[Host 1]

Could still come here and do some content, but your base would be in Miami six months in a day. That would be your domicile.

[Host 2]

The thing is, do you think you make 13% more money living here in Los Angeles than you would in Florida?

[Jason the Ween]

No, I would definitely make way more money in Florida because that tight, like.

[Host 2]

Well, let's just pay, right?

[Host 1]

Yeah, but if you pay 13, can you make 13% more money being here?

[Host 2]

Like is is the opportunity. 13%.

[Jason the Ween]

I do make more money in LA, yeah. But I would probably profit more living in Miami.

[Host 1]

So here's what I want you to do. I want you to ask your accountant, am I doing the salt cap workaround for my taxes? Just, just that, just ask that.

[Jason the Ween]

If they say salt cap workaround, yes. Okay.

[Host 1]

If they say, what's that? Fire them immediately because they're costing you hundreds of thousands of dollars a year.

[Jason the Ween]

What is assault? What is that?

[Host 1]

What this means is that you're able to prepay the state income tax through your llc. And what that does, you're able to use that now as a write off against your federal income taxes. So if you pay, just for round numbers here, if you pay $500,000 to the state of California, if you don't do this, you pay that money and that money's gone. But if you do the salt cap workaround, you pay it through your S Corp, then that $500,000 acts like a deduction. And in a 37% tax bracket, that takes it down from 500,000 down to $300,000. So you save $200,000. And if they say, what is this? They have no idea what they're doing. Fire them, get someone else. If they say, oh yeah, we're doing.

[Host 2]

That, we'll mention it to you afterwards.

[Host 1]

If they say, oh yeah, we've already been doing that. That, then that means your 13% California state income tax is not as bad and it's manageable and you could justify it. Okay, so it's one thing to keep in mind. I still think Miami, you could do crazy good content there. Especially like on the beach, with the nightlife there, with every. It seems like everyone right now is like moving to Miami.

[Jason the Ween]

Really?

[Host 2]

Yeah, it depends what groups you're talking about. But yeah, a lot of people are moving to Miami.

[Host 1]

And the tax, you could be the chain change. You could be the change that brings everybody to Miami. I don't think people need a lot of convincing. Yeah, just, hey, come to Miami with me for seven months. If you hate it, we move back. And if it sucks after a few months, we move back.

[Jason the Ween]

Okay, that's it. Okay.

[Host 2]

But we just think in terms of like being financially disciplined because we see it as such a looming destructive problem for a lot of content creators that sometime down the road they're gonna be like, holy crap, my views are down. AI people are replacing us. Something happened. I'm in a controversy that I Didn't expect to be in. They did not save any post tax money, you know, and then they're gonna go become a marketer for some company or some random. Yeah, I saw on a podcast you mentioned you're frugal.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, I was.

[Host 1]

And what happened?

[Jason the Ween]

Things change. Things change. Like I was like, like especially on my startup, like when I first started streaming, I mean my parents were always taught me to stay frugal. I would always be like, can I get this? And they say no. And I. And that of was implemented into my brain, like, oh, don't spend too much money. Right. But when I moved out here, I learned a lot about content creating and how much you need to invest in yourself if you want to grow and create entertaining content. And you know, that went out the window. Also. This is a bad quality to have, I think. Think I might be easily influenced. Especially, I mean, maybe not now, but like when I first moved out here, definitely way, way easier to be influenced. I was going to get like a little Civic out here, but then my homie Silky was like, yo, you're need a Civic. You need in a. Put a Civic in a garage full of supercars. And he was joking. But I thought about it was like, okay, if I'm gonna buy a car, I could have this car for four years. Might as well buy like a nice. A nice. Well, Civics are nice, but you know what I mean, my nice, like cool.

[Host 1]

What'd you buy?

[Jason the Ween]

I bought an Audi RS7 which lasted like, like year and a half.

[Host 2]

So what did you pay for and what do you sell it for?

[Jason the Ween]

I paid like maybe 80, 85k for it or maybe. Yeah.

[Host 1]

What do you sell it for?

[Jason the Ween]

Like 68.5.

[Host 1]

That's not bad. It's pretty good for a year and a half. That's not terrible.

[Jason the Ween]

I bought a 2021 Smart. So it was already like kind of depreciated, but smart.

[Host 2]

That didn't affect what you did with the Maybach stuck.

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[Jason the Ween]

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[Host 2]

Do you regret that purchase, or are you.

[Jason the Ween]

No, I'm happy with the Maybach because in my brain, it was an investment because I. I have a series out of it now.

[Host 1]

Yeah. Does the Maybach get girls?

[Jason the Ween]

No, no, no. It's more guys.

[Host 1]

Really?

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Which ones?

[Jason the Ween]

The straight men. It's like going to the gym. All right. When you go to the gym, you. You think, oh, once I get this body, all the girls are gonna come after me? No, it's dudes. They like to see you muscular. I don't know. And, like, same way, dude. Like, when I went down to rodeo, it's just mostly dudes, like, oh, that's a cool car. Are.

[Host 2]

I mean, are you frugal on anything in your life right now? Something that you just, no matter how much money you make or have, you will not spend money on?

[Jason the Ween]

No. That's why I said I feel rich, because I kind of just swipe my card and I'm okay.

[Host 2]

What do you. How much are you spending a month?

[Jason the Ween]

December, I spent 300.

[Host 2]

And how much did you make?

[Jason the Ween]

I made 4. 4. 4 50.

[Host 2]

Is all of the 300 deductible, or is some of it personal?

[Jason the Ween]

A lot of it was for content. Like, almost everything is for content. But that was a very high month for me. I don't. It's because phase miss was that month, and I'm just putting a lot of money into it.

[Host 2]

Why don't you drink?

[Jason the Ween]

I'm allergic. Oh, I have that. Yeah. So I can't break down alcohol. I got that.

[Host 1]

What does it do?

[Jason the Ween]

I don't know. I don't know. Like, sometimes I get really bad Asian glow. The red throat, like, clogs up. Like, I just. I just don't like drinking. It's not fun.

[Host 1]

Yeah, I'm the same way. I, I, I don't. I don't get the glow, obviously, but for me, it just. It throws. It throws me off. The opportunity cost for me of drinking is so high, high that I see that one drink is actually being worth thousands of dollars because my productivity the next day is completely blown. And then I think, would I rather have one drink or $1,000? And if the answer is yes, then I'll have to drink. But otherwise it's just, you know, it, it, it's become so important for me to be productive that I can't have a drink. Yeah, it serves nothing.

[Jason the Ween]

I agree.

[Host 1]

So, yeah.

[Host 2]

What about investing? How much are you investing? Or are you investing at all?

[Jason the Ween]

I am investing, but honestly I haven't checked my brokerage in a, in a while.

[Host 1]

Do you have access to it?

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, I do.

[Host 1]

I, I could rate it afterwards if you want me to.

[Host 2]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that would be interesting to see what, where they're putting your money and how much are they returning you like what percent per year? Cuz I'm always like skeptical when it comes to financial managers. Whatever you want to call it, are they even returning s and P500?

[Jason the Ween]

I'm going to be really honest. I don't know. I literally had just have a team that does everything and everything that I do is content. And I know it's bad, but I'm just trying to focus on my content. But I do have people that manage money. But I would love for y' all to like look at my, my brokerage and see if, you know, things are good.

[Host 1]

You know, what we do so well is just a financial management firm that we could create for specifically creators where all we do. Because I see so many people where it's just like sometimes they just need a phone call. Like, hey, you shouldn't spend the money on that. Like, what, what are you doing today? Don't, don't buy that. Or like you come to me with a Maybach as, hey, listen, let's, let's shop around and save you 50 grand. That's it. Let's put 20% away before you even see it.

[Host 2]

Would you do that?

[Jason the Ween]

Honestly? Yeah.

[Host 2]

To stream, stream all the time, IRL streaming, going to these events, being watched by tens of thousands of people. I imagine it has to build your confidence. Would you say that you're a very confident person?

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, I think streaming did build my confidence. It taught me to like, not be embarrassed, to embarrass myself and not care what other people think. And it's definitely helped with my social anxiety. I don't really have that if the camera's on me. Like I'm, I'm more shy if the camera, cameras are off me.

[Host 2]

Did you have social anxiety?

[Jason the Ween]

Not like a crazy amount. Like I, I was growing up, I was Like a class clown kind of vibe. So not really. Definitely boosted my confidence. Like the camera makes me want to do more. Like I feel like I have to do more if the cameras are on.

[Host 2]

And what about girls?

[Jason the Ween]

LA girls are kind of demonic.

[Host 1]

What are they like, what do they do?

[Jason the Ween]

I went to a, I went to an LA party one time time and this girl literally like most of her hand to come to the bathroom and I didn't even know who she was or anything but it was like a, it was like a phase party. So I guess she knew me. I was like, it's just, it's just weird. Like I, I don't know.

[Host 2]

So what did you do?

[Host 1]

I just went to the bathroom.

[Host 2]

I didn't go, hey Ron, I'll be right back.

[Host 1]

But no, Ron, honey, it's way right here.

[Host 2]

That's interesting. And let's just say I'm a girl at a bar. How would you approach me?

[Jason the Ween]

What's going on right now? Okay, I'm probably like, hey, what's your name?

[Host 2]

Hi, I'm Jack.

[Jason the Ween]

Jack, nice to meet you. I'm Jason. You look beautiful tonight. Is there anything I could get you?

[Host 2]

Hi, yeah, I mean I would love. I'll take a vodka Red Bull. And then could I get 11 tequila sodas for my friends and could I also get. I see that they have some wagyu on the menu. Could I get a few orders of that and then buy. Could you also just pay everyone else's tab? All my friends tabs.

[Jason the Ween]

I would leave, I was just, I would be, I would be like, okay, that's a lot of money. I'm good.

[Host 2]

So it's as simple as just going up. Hey, what's your name?

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, I think, I think. But I don't really like my past relationships. That's not how I met them. I just naturally just went, friends first.

[Host 1]

How do you know who you could trust though? Like if you're going out and dating in la?

[Jason the Ween]

I don't know. You don't know?

[Host 1]

Do you have a good intuition about people?

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, I feel like I do feel, I have a good feel for good people, good hearted people. But I'm always skeptical. Even people that I know for a while, I'm always skeptical and I feel like you kind of have to think like that. Especially you know, if you make the money that you do and you have the status that you have. Like you never know someone's intentions. So it's always good to be skeptical. But it's kind of sad in a way, always having one foot in One foot out.

[Host 1]

What are you worried about though? If you're like, what are you skeptical about? Like, them stealing ideas or like not.

[Jason the Ween]

Just being used for, like a stepping stool to meet someone else? Like, that's a real thing in la. Like for example, Cutie, you know Cutie Cinderella?

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Jason the Ween]

Cutie told me this story about I'm not gonna expose who, but like, there's a lot of streamers. I go to Cutie and try to be friends with. With Cutie to get to Ludwig, right? And it's, it's messed up, but like, that's a real thing. So you just gotta be careful who you hang out with. Her.

[Host 2]

Did something ever happen to you?

[Jason the Ween]

I've never had a bad experience, no. But I was always taught to be skeptical and my dad always tells me to never fully trust someone.

[Host 1]

What's a red flag that you look.

[Jason the Ween]

For if they ask if I'm friends with Blank? That's happened before. Are you friends with Mr. Beast? You friends with Kai? You friends with.

[Host 2]

I don't know. I mean, I can see, see that perspective. And I 100, 000 agree that it's better to be more skeptical as opposed to less. But even the simple question of like, hey, are you friends with this person? I don't really see that as, you know, obviously it depends on the context of the situation.

[Jason the Ween]

If I, if they ask that and then they start like, oh my God, oh my go like, fanning out.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Jason the Ween]

And it's like, that's a red flag for me.

[Host 2]

But if it's like, even that can happen to you because if you think of someone that you're like a massive fan of and then you're like, wait, are you friends with Cristiano Ronaldo? And then like, like, yeah, like, I know. Holy cow. Like, I think that, you know, it's. It's a little hard to like completely line that out.

[Jason the Ween]

I guess that's true. I mean, personally, I don't think I would fan out because I don't know, I think, unless it's like LeBron James.

[Host 2]

Does it bother you to feel like you can never 100 trust someone?

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, it does, but. But I try not to think about it. Honestly, it is what it is.

[Host 1]

I like to think that Most people are trustworthy. 90 something percent of them, not a bad bone on their body. And then the 10%, usually maybe they're a little squirrely, but you know, if that happens, it's. It is what it is. That's my, that's my thing.

[Jason the Ween]

I think in the entertainment industry, especially it's hard to find people that truly want to be friends with you. Do for you. I agree.

[Host 2]

Try to get to know you in Los Angeles especially. And I. I was living here, like, in the beginning of the iced coffee hour, beginning of, like, getting started on YouTube. And I feel like the people that I met that lived here in Los Angeles completely different than the people that I've met that do content, that live elsewhere. And it's like hyper competitive here. A lot of people are being used as stepping stones. A lot of really great people out here. But at the same time, I think that there's a culture to the city that makes it a little more toxic. Hyper competitive.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

In that way that you're describing.

[Jason the Ween]

I mean, yeah, I think in la, like, there's parties where if, like, oh, the stereotype is like, oh, how many followers you got? Yeah, you can come in. Like, that's a real thing. Which is, like, kind of dystopian.

[Host 2]

Have you ever been denied because of the amount of followers you have?

[Jason the Ween]

No, I don't go to parties, so. But yeah. Nah.

[Host 1]

What's your biggest insecurities? 30.

[Jason the Ween]

Probably my height.

[Host 1]

Really?

[Host 2]

How tall are you?

[Jason the Ween]

Five' eight. Nah, nah, I'm not really that insecure. I'm pretty secure.

[Host 1]

I don't know.

[Host 2]

Are you actually five' eight?

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, five' seven and a half. Roundup. Nothing really pops up to my. In my head, I'm pretty. I'm a pretty secure person. But if you could. If you were like, my therapist and you start jabbing at me, then I'd probably be able to think of something. But right now, nothing comes in my mind.

[Host 2]

You know what was funny is we were listening to your podcast, like, all your appearances. We were doing some research on you before we came up with our outline, you know, our talking points and everything. And when you just listen to you, not watch you, you don't sound the way you look. Have you been told that before?

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, plenty of times. Because I was raised around a lot of Hispanic people and black people. Like, at my school growing up, there's no white people, no Asian people. And I had, like. And I went to, like, the quinceaneras, and I had the Edgar haircut. Like, yeah, I was, like, growing up, I was not ashamed, but, like, kind of scared to speak my own language even, because people would make fun of me.

[Host 2]

The only thing that I'm a little bit suspicious of. Not for you, necessarily. Your situation checks out. But, like, every single streamer sounds the same. Like, they have that kind of, like, swagged out like yo chat. You know what I mean? Like, like Aiden Ross. Where did he grow up?

[Jason the Ween]

I don't know. Florida.

[Host 1]

Sounds like New Jersey to me.

[Host 2]

Like, but he'll even talk like, man, you know, so I'm just out here like doing my. Yeah, like where do people learn how to talk like that?

[Jason the Ween]

I don't know. Maybe it's just streamer slang.

[Host 2]

It might be streamer. They could have their own streamers.

[Jason the Ween]

Watch streamers.

[Host 1]

So maybe they all influence each other.

[Host 2]

Because it's just collective. I just feel like you could have someone who grew up in like Wisconsin, you know, like a normal suburban neighborhood. Then they get into streaming and then all of a sudden they're going to be talking like that. Have you ever thought about that?

[Jason the Ween]

I have not go from like country.

[Host 1]

To like all of us.

[Host 2]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. Maybe it's. Maybe it's just me, but it's. Yeah. That's interesting.

[Jason the Ween]

That is interesting. To be honest. Honest.

[Host 2]

Okay, so now we have some rapid fire questions. So we're going to ask you a question and you're going to give us your. The first response that comes to your mind.

[Jason the Ween]

Got it?

[Host 2]

Okay. If you could buy stock and three content creators, who would it be?

[Jason the Ween]

Maddie, Reem and Arky.

[Host 2]

What's your biggest financial flex?

[Jason the Ween]

My Maybach. I know. House. House back in Texas.

[Host 2]

What's your main bucket list?

[Jason the Ween]

I item bigger house.

[Host 2]

How big?

[Jason the Ween]

10 million dollar Texas mansion big.

[Host 1]

That's huge. That's like 20,000 square feet.

[Jason the Ween]

I know.

[Host 2]

Why do you want a house that big?

[Jason the Ween]

I don't know. I just don't.

[Host 2]

Do you really want it?

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

So you think about it often?

[Jason the Ween]

I do.

[Host 1]

What would it, would it have like a lazy river and like I just.

[Jason the Ween]

Want my, my whole family to be there. Like literally compounds every single single person.

[Host 2]

I don't understand why you couldn't do that right now. Like you could finance it. They could all move in. You could call that your home base and then fly out of there to certain shoots.

[Jason the Ween]

I don't. I just, I guess I could, but I don't know how, how, how to start. I mean I, I do, but it's a lot. Yeah, I'm lazy.

[Host 2]

When is the last time you cried?

[Jason the Ween]

I don't remember. I didn't really cry growing up because my dad was always like, yo, I mean the typical, like if you cry, you're not a man. So I don't really cry.

[Host 2]

You haven't cried anytime in the past couple years?

[Jason the Ween]

No, I have, but I try not to like If I cry, like, I'll try my best not to, but probably. Oh, wait, I remember now is when I went home for Christmas and I saw my dad and we had a conversation about him growing older. I cried.

[Host 2]

What about it specifically?

[Jason the Ween]

I mean, you know, when you look at your dad and he just looks older and you see him just growing older, and it's just like a scary feeling of, you know, him passing, you know, that.

[Host 1]

That conversation, I think sometimes, and this keeps me up at night, I'll be like. Like 1:30 in the morning, about to fall asleep. And then I just think about it. I say, wait a second. You know, if you look at the average lifespan, my life is almost half over, which is.

[Jason the Ween]

Don't think about that.

[Host 1]

Crazy. I'm. I'm about to be 36. And for men, I think it's like in the mid-70s. And so, like 36 times two, you know, 72 and like, holy shit, that's almost half over. That's why, like, hopefully I'm hoping to live through, like, 90s. I want to live to, like, 103, ideally. But still, when you. When you put that into perspective, it's like, oh, things go fast. And then I see other things that, like, when I was born in 1990, 1955 is the same thing as, like, 35 years from now, which is 1955. I start doing these calculations in my head.

[Jason the Ween]

I'm like, oh, my God.

[Host 2]

I feel like what the scary. The scariest thought is is like, okay, I live in a different state than my parents. You do as well. You do as well. And you think, okay, when do I see my parents? Christmas, some other events. Maybe I'll go back and visit them a couple other times per year. And so maybe I'm seeing them like six times per year. Right. Once every two months if I'm lucky. And then you map out the amount of life that they likely have based on averages, because whether you like it or not, everyone's a part of a statistic. Then, you know, how many times do you have left statistically to see them? It could be like 40, you know, like, depending on how old your parents are and average lifespans and whatnot. But that's a scary thought for me.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

It's like, how much more time do I really have? Who is the biggest fashion influence on you?

[Jason the Ween]

Pharrell.

[Host 1]

Yeah, I could see that.

[Jason the Ween]

That's cool.

[Host 2]

What is the secret to a happy life?

[Jason the Ween]

Being content with what you have.

[Host 1]

As you say that wanting the 10 million dollar compound house kind of hypocritical huh?

[Jason the Ween]

I mean, I just learned like. And I still struggle this with this. I think human nature. You always want more. You always want more. And if I just like step back and like think about and I have my lifestyle and, and what I have, and I'm just like, damn, I'm blessed and I'm happy to have what I have and to be able to do what I do every single day and live my life doing that and be financially free and make money doing, really hanging out with my friends in the house, streaming, like that makes me happy. But sometimes I get incomplacent and I want more and that makes me kind of sad.

[Host 2]

It's gratitude, you know, counting your blessings. It's good. On the topic of being happy with where you're at, would you quit streaming for $20 million?

[Jason the Ween]

That's a lot of money.

[Host 1]

But no, after tax, just 20 mil in your bank account. No taxes, it's yours. But you quit today day.

[Jason the Ween]

But what could I like, do? YouTube?

[Host 1]

Nope. You got to be off social media.

[Jason the Ween]

No social media, nothing. No, I wouldn't, cuz I. That's my passion. I don't know. I think I would just be sad. I would just be sad. I don't know what I would do with the money. Travel the world. But then what? I'm 21.

[Host 1]

Have a family, have kids, settle down.

[Jason the Ween]

Get a nice place.

[Host 1]

Get a nice place in Florida. Florida. On the beach.

[Jason the Ween]

Take up golf, tennis for the rest of my days. I feel I just get bored and sad and depressed.

[Host 1]

Walk the beach, get into making coffee.

[Jason the Ween]

How many times could I do that?

[Host 1]

You could. You could start a reef aquarium.

[Host 2]

Graham, would you quit all social media for 20 million?

[Host 1]

No, not for 20. There would be a price, though. There would be a price. No, because you see the trajectory. It's like, you know, 20 million at the current trajectory of that, you know. Now, I would say if you gave me 50, I would. I would do it.

[Host 2]

What about you?

[Jason the Ween]

100.

[Host 2]

I would probably quit for 20 million. Post tax. Yeah. Would you do one of those old cringy tik toks for the camera?

[Jason the Ween]

No, I can't. I can't.

[Host 2]

How much would that cost?

[Jason the Ween]

Oh, that would cost a pretty penny. I can't go back. I can't. I can't.

[Host 1]

Give us a teaser, like just a little something something.

[Host 2]

Oh, my gosh. All right, that's gonna be in the intro. Last thing we have for you is a tier list. All right, Jason the Ween, let's see what your streamer tier list looks like.

[Jason the Ween]

All Right. All right. Even if I've never watched one of these streamers, can I just put.

[Host 2]

Put them wherever you want. Okay. Yeah.

[Jason the Ween]

All right, here we go. So who should I. Should I just start from top and to bottom?

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Jason the Ween]

All right. Aiden. I think Aiden would be Mountain Rushmore. He made it mainstream for sure. Is like all time.

[Host 2]

Yeah, just like. Just like. Where would you put these people on the tier list? There's no, like, strict criteria. It's whatever criteria you want to assign.

[Jason the Ween]

I would put Aiden probably. I put a ton. He was the first person bring a rapper on stream, which made streaming a lot more mainstream. Wasn't the first person to make streaming mainstream, but first person to bring a rapper on stream, which opened doors for sure. Agent. I'm put Asian at Agent. Been doing this for a long time. I'm putting that at A. Because. Because his consistency and his grind and him not being burnt out and. Yeah, he's been always consistent. Is this Andrea Botez or which process.

[Host 2]

Sister Is this Andrea Botaz?

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah, I'm Put her at a. Put her at C. I'm not really a chess streamer. Asmongold. I'm gonna put Asmin at. I don't watch him at all, so I'm gonna put him at A. Cinna. I'm gonna put her at a. A. Oh, she's. She went back to back Sapphire wars. So best female streamer here at Extra Emily. And put her at a B. Put her to B for in. I don't know too much about force. I know he does Minecraft speedruns some. Put him out of B. Fousy tube. I don't really watch Fousey. He doesn't really stream anymore, but he has some funny, funny clips. Put him out of C. Fousley. I don't know you watch Fously. But she's. She's a staple in the streaming community. Hassan Put Hassan in like a Jack D. No, no, Poor Jack. Johnny Salami Salami. I'll put him out of S.

[Host 1]

Would.

[Host 2]

You put him above or below Jack Doherty?

[Jason the Ween]

Jeez, that's like Hitler versus Stalin.

[Host 1]

Which one is worse?

[Jason the Ween]

Probably. Probably fight Johnny Samali. I don't know, bro. I don't know. Kai. I'm putting out a S for obvious reasons. Change the streaming game changer going crazy killed it. He literally killed it. Lacey put. I'll put Lacey at least. Yeah. IB it's my boy Ludwig. I'm gonna put at. I'm putting him at a B. Marlon real pusher. I put Marlana a B. Actually, I put I'll put him out of B because he's been doing this for literally, I think, like one year and he going absolutely crazy. Neon. Put Neon at a. Like a. You can see Ninja s tier. I would argue that ninja made shree me was the first year to make it mainstream with like Drake, Travis Scott. Like crazy Pokemon. Put Pokemon like a. Like a B. Soda. Put soda like a A. I know he's one of the streaming goats. Didn't watch him too much, though. But I'll give him this respect. Speed s internationally like known insane streamer. A lot of inspiration from Speed Squeaks. I don't really watch squeaks. I've never watched Squeaks, but I've only heard good things about him. So put him out of d stable. Ronaldo. Put my boy at an A. Hilarious. Dude. Tim the tap man. Put Tim at. I watched a lot of Tim. I can't lie. Put him on a togi. I didn't even know Toby String. I thought he was a YouTuber. I don't really know.

[Host 1]

He does. I thought he does.

[Host 2]

Gambling few times. Yeah.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Jason the Ween]

I don't really watch his streams. I want to put him on a D. Vitali. Damn. I don't. He's out now. He's out now. Yeah. I don't know him. I don't really watch his streams or if he streams. Put him right. Asthma Gold. This is Will Nelson. Ne. Yeah, Will Neff. Put him at a. Put him out of the se world. World of T shirts. Right?

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Joshua Block.

[Jason the Ween]

I put him. I'll put him. I don't really watch his streams. I'll put him next to Asman Gold. Jeez.

[Host 1]

Josh next to Asman Gold.

[Host 2]

He's the goat streamer, in my opinion.

[Jason the Ween]

Is he?

[Host 2]

Yeah. I think he's rushing.

[Jason the Ween]

Has been.

[Host 2]

No, Josh.

[Jason the Ween]

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I saw him one time on Stream and like, he looked at a bit out of it.

[Host 2]

I think that's his brand. Yeah, he. He leans into the character a lot. He's actually pretty normal, I think.

[Host 1]

Oh, he's faking it.

[Host 2]

No, I'm kidding. I don't think that's the case.

[Jason the Ween]

It's all an act Xuc. I put out a s. Okay. I watch a lot of xuc on my come up and growing. I think he's like pure desktop. Great desktop streamer. Paved the way for. For new streamers as well. Tfue put out an A Tyler one. I'm not gonna lie. I'm putting Tyler at a s. Wow. Because this dude I watched like the Most growing up on Twitch. Him and Greek God X. Yo, hilarious duo. I think. I think he's hilarious. Austin show. I'll say this. He. He's very clippable and he knows how to get clipped, but he. He's saying some outrageous. So I put him. I put him. Put my stuff. C. Sneako. Put him. Put him in D. Me, I'm put myself at B. Silky. Silky. I love Silky. I think he's hilarious. I put him at B as well. Max. I'm put him out. I'll put him at A. This is me. Cool.

[Host 2]

Interesting. So you had Aiden Ross. Okay. Aiden Ross, Kai, Ninja Speed, XQC and Tyler as. As S Tier.

[Jason the Ween]

Thank you.

[Host 1]

Well, thank you for coming on. Really appreciate it. We'll link to all of your info down below in the description.

[Jason the Ween]

Thank you so much for having me.

[Host 1]

I'm looking forward to watching your island. I'm gonna. I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna watch it. I'll tune it into a little. A little bit and I'm looking forward to.

[Jason the Ween]

To it. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[Host 1]

You know what? You should also have someone for a day hunt you down and see if you could escape them. And if you escape them for the day, then you get a cheeseburger.

[Jason the Ween]

Well, the thing is, I don't want to, like, script it because then what.

[Host 1]

If people like, oh, it's not scripted, but like, you actually. They actually will hunt you down like they have.

[Jason the Ween]

They hunt me down, I just die.

[Host 1]

No, no, if they hunt you down, then you get penalized. You have to spend like an extra like five hours on the island or something like that, like, to do something like that. Because that'll keep it interesting for the day if. If like a Navy SEAL tries to hunt you down and you have to, like, hide out.

[Jason the Ween]

Oh, okay.

[Host 1]

I think that'd be interesting. You, like, climb trees or like bury yourself in the sand. Be like, oh, my gosh.

[Host 2]

I do agree. If there was like kind of somewhat of a schedule. Day one, this is happening. Day two, this is happening. Yeah. Yeah. He knows what's up. He knows what's up. Jason, thank you so much for coming on the podcast. That was a blast. Love talking to streamers because it's like completely new information for us. It's not what we do, so it's interesting. Appreciate you coming on.

[Host 1]

Also, big thank you to White Glove Estates here in West Hollywood for allowing us to film in their showroom. So if you're building any sort of high end properties, I highly recommend you at least consult with them because their work is phenomenal. They help with remodels, design, architecture, all this sort of stuff. A sound engineering too. So if you're interested in that, check them out. They have a whole showroom in West.

[Host 2]

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[Host 1]

It's gorgeous.

[Host 2]

Absolutely beautiful. It's gorgeous.

[Host 1]

So I'll link to their info down below in the description as well. Thank you so much. Until next time.

[Host 2]

Thank you guys so much. Thank you.

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