Not Quite Graybeards! The Icon Garden is a show about interesting topics in the world of Apple and Technology for the enthusiast user. Hosts Dan and Jake talk news, workflow, and a special topic every show. We chat home automation with the HomeKit Chronicles, and every month there's a deep dive into Apple and Tech history with Macinography. We started from the Ars Technica Mac Ach forum and bring the knowledge to the wide world of tech.