People love to hear and listen intently to great stories. If you can craft them for your marketing initiatives, you’ll build your business faster. I discuss how to do that in this episode with my guest, Thom Van Dycke.

Thom is a business advisor for solopreneurs and small agencies and a certified StoryBrand Guide. He works to help his clients develop strategic offers that deliver huge value to their customers.

Thom was a pastor for 19 years. When you’re in that kind of role there’s a lot of storytelling already involved. In 2020 he left the ministry and started his own business after reading the book “Building a Storybrand” by Donald Miller. In the back of the book the author described how to get certified as a “Storybrand Guide”. Thom realized that the Storybrand framework is very powerful for organizing your thoughts around storytelling.

That sparked the idea: “I wonder if it’s time for a switch”. After getting certified Thom launched his business and started out as a copywriter. He fell in love with taking the genre of communication, marketing, and figuring out ways to interweave it with storytelling. Thom has been copywriting for four years and now and is starting to do more storytelling consulting work.

When it comes to storytelling and marketing, where do you begin?

Many people think storytelling is about telling their story and being autobiographical. While there is a place for that in marketing, that’s not necessarily what it means to tell your story in marketing. Storytelling in marketing really looks at what other parts of a story are and how do we can use them in our marketing strategy.

Storytelling begins with a hero who wants something and can’t get it, they have an external problem. Then frustration about that leads to internal problems for them. Then the hero meets a guide. The guide gives them a plan, paints a picture of success and failure, and calls the hero to action. The whole arc of the story is one of transformation. So, the idea is the framework for a story. The reason that is so powerful is that our brains are wired to recognize the patterns of stories. From the beginning of written communication humankind has used stories to make sense of their world. The more ancient you go, the more the stories are more supernatural in nature.

The Need for Storytelling

In modern times we’re still creating stories to explain the world around us. We are still using stories to make sense of the universe, often in scientific and naturalistic ways. It’s part of our DNA to make sense of the world that way. When Thom starts working with a client, he first makes sure they understand that concept. Then he helps them understand that when it comes to marketing, in order to be effective, you need to be extremely clear. The brain wants to find the shortest path to an understanding or meaning as possible.

When we put our marketing and messaging into a story format, we’re helping people’s brains get to the point we’re trying to make faster. It helps us land more deals and close more sales because it cuts out some of the brain’s confusion of trying to get to the point.

In this episode we also discuss:

How to get to the point quicker in your marketing strategy.
The case for making your clients to heroes of your stories instead of yourself.
The pitfalls of the least effective marketing campaigns and how to avoid them.
How to articulate your hero’s (customer’s) problems effectively and show them how you solve them.
The role of and need for compassion in marketing.
How to position yourself as the hero’s guide in your customer’s journey.
How to arrange the content on your website to create a hero’s journey.
The need for a call to action and how to create one.
How to balance explaining problems with explaining solutions in your marketing.
Two common storytelling mistakes most people make and how to avoid them.
The one thing that, when it comes to storytelling and marketing, that you need to do above all else.

…and more golden nuggets of advice!

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About My Guest

Thom Van Dycke is a business advisor for solo and micro-preneurs. After 19 years as a pastor, he launched his business at the height of the pandemic in 2020 and grew it to six figures in the first year. Already a certified StoryBrand Guide, Thom expanded his services to include business development consulting in the summer of 2023. He helps his clients to scale to $50,000/month of recurring revenue.

Thom is married to Tara and they have 7 children. They are both advocates for foster and adoption and have welcomed 30 foster children into their home since 2011.

Connect with Thom!

Email: thom@thomvandycke.com
Website: thomvandycke.com
LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/thom-van-dycke/
Book a call: https://tidycal.com/thom/introductions
Monthly Strategy Design Workshops: https://link.thomvandycke.com/Strategy-Design