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Darian Woods
When Juan Hernandez came to work at SpaceX in 2013, employees stock options were not front of mind.
Juan Hernandez
You're, like, looking at the bottom line, like, all right, how much are you actually paying? How much could I actually take home to feed the family? Especially me. I had no experience with the stock options or the market or anything like that.
Waylon Wong
Eventually, Juan started to learn that shares in SpaceX were growing and growing in value.
Juan Hernandez
You would go on your little webpage and they would show the value kind of going up and you get the emails. You're like, huh, this is interesting. This is starting to be worth something.
Darian Woods
Tech firms aren't the only businesses that give their employees shares of the company. In fact, sailors hunting whales hundreds of years ago would often get paid a share of the profit. But startups giving all employees stock options is a particularly Californian model. That might explain why the state is a tech hub. This is the indicator from Planet Money. I'm Darian Woods.
Waylon Wong
And I'm Waylon Wong. Today on the show, why do Californian tech companies love to give their employees stock options? We learn what they are, why they might be the secret ingredient to Silicon Valley, and how they've changed Juan's life.
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It's a year of paydays for tech employees. SpaceX put shares of its company public mid June. Also, Anthropic and OpenAI have announced they've filed paperwork to possibly do the same, too. All three companies give their employees rights to buy shares of the company as part of their pay package. And when the companies go public, it becomes a lot easier for those workers to cash out those shares.
Waylon Wong
We met one of them, Juan Hernandez. Juan was born in Mexico and raised in California. He started off working in warehouses and restaurants before moving into office work at an aerospace company.
Darian Woods
But he kept hearing about another company on the other side of town.
Juan Hernandez
They were marketing themselves as like, we hire the best of the best. And, you know, always been kind of competitive in what I do. To me, it was just kind of like, all right, I want to work where they say the best of the best work.
Waylon Wong
That company was SpaceX, and I decided
Juan Hernandez
to put my name in the hat.
Darian Woods
Juan says because he didn't have a college degree, he didn't have a lot of leverage.
Juan Hernandez
Fortunately, I was hired.
Waylon Wong
Juan became a scheduler in SpaceX's engine factory.
Juan Hernandez
I had a team under me that we would schedule, make sure that we hit our launch dates and commitments.
Darian Woods
You were responsible for making sure everybody's on target. Which, you know, coming from Elon Musk, who is like a known taskmaster, that must have been a lot of pressure.
Juan Hernandez
Yeah, yeah, there was a lot of pressure, but he took care of us. But, yeah, he was very demanding guy. And so, you know, we had skin in the game, so we wanted to execute.
Darian Woods
The team had skin of the game because they had options to buy SpaceX stock. IFA Taran is a professor at Israel's University of Haifa, specializing in startup corporate law.
Ifat Aran
They are not just workers receiving wages, they are partial owners of the firm. And that ownership interest gives them a reason and an incentive to invest their time, their knowledge, their effort in building the firm.
Waylon Wong
Ifat says that retaining workers is particularly important for tech companies and their investors. They want the talent to stay around.
Ifat Aran
You're basically investing in people, in ideas, in what they have in their heads. So you really need to work hard to make sure that you're not just creating an empty shell and the most important asset eventually walks out of the door.
Waylon Wong
Now, the way employees get ownership varies between companies, and there have been different types within SpaceX over the years. A basic employee stock option situation goes like this. At certain dates, a company gives you special contracts, stock options. Those contracts are the opportunity to buy shares in the company at the current price.
Darian Woods
Yeah, so they're not giving you the shares themselves, they're giving you the right to buy at that price.
Waylon Wong
Exactly. So let's say you have the right to buy SpaceX shares at a dollar a share. If SpaceX's shares stay at a dollar, that option isn't really worth anything.
Ifat Aran
But.
Waylon Wong
But if the company rises in value a few years later, then that option can become very valuable.
Darian Woods
Let's say the share price goes to $100 a share. You can still pay the price of that original $1, which is now worth $100. So a pretty good deal.
Waylon Wong
A very good deal, yeah.
Darian Woods
But it's worth noting that when you exercise that option, you likely have to pay taxes on that $99 gain. And when the company's private, there are limited opportunities to actually sell some of those SpaceX share.
Waylon Wong
Plus, there's often restrictions on how long you need to work at the company before you can actually get those stock options. And the options have expiration dates, say 10 years. So if you don't actually buy stock with that option, then its value goes to zero. That timeline is even faster if you leave the company.
Ifat Aran
Once you leave, you have only three months to decide whether or not to exercise the option. And that would involved involve out of my pocket costs, and maybe alternative minimum tax.
Waylon Wong
This is roughly the problem Juan Hernandez faced after six years working for SpaceX.
Juan Hernandez
Unfortunately, at 2019, I got laid off.
Darian Woods
In Juan's case, he hadn't bought any SpaceX shares while he'd been working there. He said he had 30 days to buy 50 or $60,000 worth of SpaceX stock or leave them forever.
Juan Hernandez
Convincing the wife was the biggest part, is like, hey, we need to get these. I was telling her it's almost a sure thing. And, you know, she was very nervous.
Waylon Wong
She was nervous because, A, Juan had just been laid off, B, they need to borrow against their mortgage to pay for it, and C, it's putting all your eggs in one basket. That is the exact opposite of what financial advisors tell you to do.
Juan Hernandez
She said, like, you're putting the house up. You know, we don't even own this house. Like, this is our only thing that we can leave behind at the time. And, you know, I was able to convince her, and we got to a point where she's like, okay, you know, I believe in it. Let's, let's do it.
Waylon Wong
So Juan's dilemma reflects how hard it is to take advantage of a rising company's value when you leave, whether it's voluntarily or involuntarily.
Darian Woods
But ifat Aran says what's distinctive about stock options is that they don't lock people into failing companies if the company
Ifat Aran
is not Doing well, the options aren't worth much, so employees actually have an incentive to seek a better opportunity elsewhere.
Darian Woods
Ifat says this is a huge part of why Silicon Valley became such a success. And yes, we know SpaceX started in LA and is now headquartered in Texas, but Elon Musk really is a product of Silicon Valley. Anyway. 100 years ago, there was no particular reason why California would dominate as a center for tech.
Ifat Aran
Bell Labs in New Jersey had extraordinary scientific talent.
Waylon Wong
Boston was another contender.
Ifat Aran
They had MIT engineers and defense funding and major technology companies.
Waylon Wong
In those places, workers could be subject to non compete clauses. And this is an important point. A non compete clause says you can't work for companies for a time after you leave. That's a strong way for a business to keep staff working for them.
Darian Woods
Yeah, if they want to keep the same line of work in the same region, they're basically stuck.
Waylon Wong
But California doesn't allow non compete clauses. So with roots going back to the 1950s, tech companies would do something else to keep their talent. They started to give ordinary employees more of a share in their startups.
Darian Woods
Ifat thinks that employee ownership is the big factor that gave rise to the tech startup ecosystem in Silicon Valley and not elsewhere.
Ifat Aran
Definitely, because when you are investing in intangibles, you are actually investing in people and you want them to be happy and you want them to stay and you want the incentives to be aligned.
Waylon Wong
And Juan Hernandez is very happy. He says those shares he and his wife bought for 50 or 60 thousand dollars are now worth a lot more. He wouldn't say the exact amount and if you've been following the markets, you'll know. SpaceX stock has been erratic to say the least. But he says it's between 1 and $5 million, if not more.
Juan Hernandez
I was immigrant and she kind of grew up in, you know, L. A not the best circumstances. So, you know, feel blessed that we kind of got in a situation where we can, you know, now put generational wealth in our family and set up our kids to have the advantages that we didn't have. You know, kind of the American dream.
Waylon Wong
Textbook American dream.
Darian Woods
Honestly, if I delivered this to Hollywood as a script, I'd say no, go back to the drawing board.
Waylon Wong
They would say this is too on the nose.
Darian Woods
This episode was produced by Cooper Katz McKim and Emma Ferrara, who also fact it was engineered by Maggie Luthar. Kate Co Cannon edits the show and the Indicator is a production of npr.
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The Indicator from Planet Money – June 24, 2026
This episode of The Indicator explores how employee stock options have served as a powerful incentive—transforming ordinary workers into millionaires and shaping the culture of innovation in Silicon Valley and beyond. Using Juan Hernandez’s story—a once warehouse worker who bet on SpaceX stock—hosts Darian Woods and Waylon Wong delve into why stock options are so prominent in California tech firms, how they work, and the personal risks and rewards they entail.
“You would go on your little webpage and they would show the value kind of going up and you get the emails. You're like, huh, this is interesting. This is starting to be worth something.”
—Juan Hernandez [00:30]
“They are not just workers receiving wages, they are partial owners of the firm. And that ownership interest gives them a reason and an incentive to invest their time, their knowledge, their effort in building the firm.”
—Prof. Ifat Aran, University of Haifa [04:21]
“She said, like, you're putting the house up. … And, you know, I was able to convince her, and we got to a point where she's like, okay, you know, I believe in it. Let's, let's do it.”
—Juan Hernandez [07:21]
“In those places, workers could be subject to non compete clauses. … But California doesn't allow non compete clauses. So… they started to give ordinary employees more of a share in their startups.”
—Waylon Wong [08:37, 09:10]
“Definitely, because when you are investing in intangibles, you are actually investing in people and you want them to be happy and you want them to stay and you want the incentives to be aligned.”
—Prof. Ifat Aran [09:20]
“I was immigrant and she kind of grew up in, you know, L. A not the best circumstances. So, you know, feel blessed that we kind of got in a situation where we can, you know, now put generational wealth in our family and set up our kids to have the advantages that we didn't have. You know, kind of the American dream.”
—Juan Hernandez [09:51]
“Honestly, if I delivered this to Hollywood as a script, I'd say no, go back to the drawing board.”
—Darian Woods [10:12]
This episode illustrates the personal and structural effects of employee equity—unpacking both the pitfalls and transformative potential intrinsic to Silicon Valley’s signature compensation practice.