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Darian Woods
Charlotte Palomino runs a company called Dew.
Charlotte Palermino
Dew is a clinical skincare brand.
Wayland Wong
She's also popular on TikTok and Instagram.
Darian Woods
I don't know, is Skinfluencer a bit too crass to say? How would you say it?
Selmasinia
Yes.
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No.
Charlotte Palermino
I mean, I talk a lot about skincare on the Internet and so yes, I try to influence people on purchasing decisions.
Darian Woods
In 2018, Charlotte was in a specialty skincare shop and she tried on a Japanese sunscreen.
Charlotte Palermino
I remember putting it on my face and being like, what is this? Biore UV aqua Riche. It is an incredible texture. It has a beautiful cooling, watery effect. And I remember I applied so much on my face.
Wayland Wong
It was then that Charlotte learned that the United States just doesn't have great sunscreens. Unlike the rest of the world, the Food and Drug Administration hadn't approved a new sunscreen ingredient since the late 90s.
Darian Woods
And this means that the sunscreen here is gloopier and stickier. Discouraging people to use also means the US Is behind on the effectiveness of its sunscreens, which is important because there's more than 5 million cases of skin cancer diagnosed in the US each year. Sunscreen could have prevented many of those cases. This is the indicator from Planet Money. I'm Darian Woods.
Wayland Wong
Welcome back. And I'm Wayland Wong. Today on the show how to Get Better Sunscreen, we look at why the US Went into a sunscreen freeze. What this tells us about American regulation and one economist's proposal to fix the burning problem.
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Darian Woods
NPR when you Interview a skincare influencer. You have to ask for tips.
Wayland Wong
Of course.
Darian Woods
What's one piece of skincare advice you give me? I use nothing apart from daily sunscreen.
Charlotte Palermino
You are doing so great.
Darian Woods
What?
Charlotte Palermino
So I was looking at the stats. It's a ridiculous number. Like, only 13% of people in America are wearing sunscreen daily.
Darian Woods
So I'm already in the top 13% of sunscreen.
Charlotte Palermino
You and Paul Rudd.
Wayland Wong
Paul Rudd, ageless skincare icon. I also wear sunscreen on my face every day.
Charlotte Palermino
Look.
Darian Woods
But, you know, she had some more
Charlotte Palermino
to say I would recommend. Do you wash your face?
Darian Woods
I don't. I mean, I have a shower, so my face, incidentally, gets some. But I don't consciously wash my face. No.
Charlotte Palermino
Like, do you wash your body?
Alex Tavarock
Yeah.
Charlotte Palermino
So your face is part of your body.
Darian Woods
That is true.
Wayland Wong
Charlotte with the facts.
Darian Woods
I got roasted. Waylon.
Wayland Wong
Did she recommend some products for you then?
Alex Tavarock
Yeah.
Darian Woods
There's some other things about exfoliations and I don't know, but I gotta get the basics first. Anyway, it was time to move along. All right, enough about my hygiene habits. So when you learned that the US Lacks superior sunscreens, what did you do?
Charlotte Palermino
So I first. Well, I called my representatives. You know, I love complaining on the Internet.
Darian Woods
Don't we all?
Charlotte Palermino
I know, right? I'm like, I'm half French. It's part of my culture. But I also started making videos and creating, you know, resources for people to call their representatives.
Wayland Wong
Charlotte learned that one reason why the US Is slower to approve sunscreen ingredients is that it's regulated as a drug and not a cosmetic. That means that ingredients need clinical evidence not only that they're safe, but that they're effective, too. One Swiss, Dutch company was trying to meet those standards. Charlotte found out.
Charlotte Palermino
I got in touch with DSM Firmaniche, where I found out that they were actually doing a lot of the work.
Wayland Wong
DSM Firmaniche was sponsoring an ingredient to get recognized as generally safe and effective. The company's hope was that it could then sell an ingredient wholesale to sunscreen makers. The ingredient was called Bimotrizenil Parand.
Darian Woods
Selmasinia is the president of the company's beauty and care group.
Selmasinia
It's been used internationally for many, many, many years, but it had not been available for the U.S. market. It was a void in the U.S.
Darian Woods
when did the process start?
Selmasinia
Oh, my God, A long time ago. It's decades and decades that we have been at work with this.
Darian Woods
Peran says they did clinical studies on nearly 500 participants, representing the diversity of the U.S. she also says that the
Wayland Wong
COVID pandemic put them at a lower priority for the FDA for understandable reasons.
Selmasinia
There were some moments that we were very scared, oh my God, is this gonna come at the end of the day? And we knew it was a matter of time.
Darian Woods
DSM Firmaniche spent at least $18 million to try to get that FDA approval. Charlotte Palomino was impressed.
Charlotte Palermino
They had lobbyists and I had to, you know, learn the hard way on how things are actually moved through, you know, sometimes arduous legislation.
Wayland Wong
The CARES act in 2020 was a key piece among all the COVID relief funding. It also created a more streamlined process for companies to try to get sunscreen ingredient approval. But even a couple years after this passed, we still didn't have any new sunscreen ingredients. So Charlotte teamed up with a Democratic representative. Hello everyone, this is Rep. Aoc and
Charlotte Palermino
I'm here with Charlotte Palermino, am a brand owner, but also.
Wayland Wong
And they made a short video together.
Charlotte Palermino
Please contact your member of Congress, ask
Wayland Wong
them to break through some of the regulatory barriers. At the fda.
Darian Woods
This became sort of a bipartisan issue. A law was passed in 2025 that allowed more types of safety and efficacy evidence to be accepted. In June this year, Bimotrizenol was approved in the US the first active sunscreen ingredient to be broadly used in about three decades.
Wayland Wong
Alex Tavarock is a professor of economics at George Mason University who's been writing about the FDA and sunscreen for a long time.
Alex Tavarock
Only finally now, after such a long delay, are we getting it approved in the United States.
Wayland Wong
He thinks that the long delay for sunscreen is representative of a wider issue, which is an over cautious Food and Drug Administration.
Alex Tavarock
It is too risk averse. In fact, you can have over precaution, deadly precaution. Wanting to be too safe can actually make you less safe.
Darian Woods
One in five Americans will get skin cancer by age 70. Most will survive, but the numbers could be reduced with better and more frequently used sunscreen.
Wayland Wong
Now, Alex is not denying that there could be risks from new ingredients.
Alex Tavarock
30, 50 years, 100 years from now, maybe we'll find out that the sunscreens we approved were not as safe as they thought they were. Okay. But in the meantime, we know the sun can cause cancer and we ought to be making the best choices we can today.
Darian Woods
So Alex has a solution.
Alex Tavarock
If another stringent authority like the European Medical Agency, if it approves a drug or device, it ought to be automatically approved.
Wayland Wong
In the United States, this idea is called peer approval.
Alex Tavarock
If a German tourist comes to the United States, as many recently have. You know, for the World cup, we accept their driver's licenses.
Darian Woods
Yeah. The US Trusts the German government to regulate who can and can't drive. Alex thinks it should be the same for medicine.
Wayland Wong
Now that is not without risks.
Darian Woods
So what about the risk of something being approved that ends up being really bad for people? I'm thinking about thalidomide, the morning sickness drug. In the 1960s it was refused approval by the FDA, but other countries approved the drug and that resulted in more than 10,000 babies being born with birth defects. Isn't a strong FDA protecting us from repeats of the thalidomide disaster?
Alex Tavarock
In my view, thalidomide killed far more people by creating this excessively precautionary risk averse attitude in the FDA than it ever did by briefly being approved in elsewhere. People are buried in what I call the invisible graveyard. And because they're much harder to see, the political process does not take into account the deaths in the invisible graveyard as much as it does the fewer but more visible injuries which are caused when a bad drug sometimes is approved.
Wayland Wong
Republican Senator Ted Cruz actually introduced a bill in recent years to fast track the approval of drugs that are allowed in peer countries. It hasn't gained a lot of traction.
Darian Woods
We asked the FDA why it had taken so long to approve any new sunscreen ingredients, and in a statement they wrote that previous applications for new ingredients were lacking sufficient scientific information about their safety. They cited an outside group of experts that backs up the FDA's requirements.
Wayland Wong
As for Charlotte Palermino, she has plans to make a sunscreen with Bemitriginol.
Charlotte Palermino
We've been working on formulas for years and so working on it.
Darian Woods
And as for me, I've started washing my face.
Wayland Wong
Darian so Charlotte influenced you to start washing your face?
Darian Woods
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Episode Title: Why doesn't the US have better sunscreen?
Date: July 20, 2026
Hosts: Darian Woods, Wayland Wong
Guests: Charlotte Palermino (Dew skincare), Selmasinia (DSM Firmaniche), Alex Tavarock (GMU Economics)
This episode dives into a burning economic and public health question: Why has U.S. sunscreen fallen behind the rest of the world? The hosts explore the science, regulations, behind-the-scenes lobbying, and the high stakes for public health. Hear firsthand from a skincare entrepreneur, an executive from a global chemical company, and an economist, as they shine a light on the tangled regulatory process that, until recently, prevented modern, lightweight sunscreens from reaching American consumers.
FDA's Position [(09:26-09:44)]:
What’s Next? [(09:44-09:57)]:
| Timestamp | Topic | |------------|--------------------------------| | 00:28-00:47 | Charlotte Palermino discovers better foreign sunscreens | | 01:24-01:40 | Why the US is behind – FDA regulatory standstill | | 04:12-04:30 | Drug vs. cosmetic status of sunscreen ingredients | | 04:47-05:27 | DSM Firmaniche’s efforts with Bimotrizenil | | 05:44-06:19 | Legislative moves: CARES Act, 2025 law | | 06:39-07:11 | Tavarock: FDA’s risk aversion and its consequences | | 07:42-08:04 | Peer approval concept explained | | 08:13-08:39 | Thalidomide, the case for strong regulation | | 09:44-09:48 | Charlotte’s plans for a new sunscreen formula |
This episode sheds light on the intertwining of cosmetics, health, economics, and law. The U.S. lag in sunscreen innovation is tied to cautious FDA regulation designed for drugs rather than cosmetics, resulting in decades-long delays for new, potentially life-saving ingredients. Recent legal changes—and tireless activism—finally brought a breakthrough in 2026, but the debate about balancing safety and access continues. The lively panel of guests leaves listeners with both insight and a call to reexamine the American way of regulating health products.
For further questions, recommendations, or sunscreen tips, contact your representative—or just start by wearing sunscreen every day (and washing your face, too).