
John Wilson speaks to comedian Eric Idle, star of Monty Python, about his life and career.
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We're more popular than populism. For this interview, I met the English comedian, writer, musician and actor Eric Idle at BBC Broadcasting House in London. He's best known for being being a founder member of the comedy troupe Monty Python, writing and performing across their four television series and films including the Life of Brian and the Meaning of Life. He was also behind the Tony Award winning musical Spamalot, based on the film Monty Python and the Holy Grail. For over 20 years, the stage musical has run twice in London's West End and on Broadway and has also been staged in 14 countries around the world. But success didn't always come easily. At one point, a member of the Beatles stepped in to fund Eric's comedic vision when others said no.
Interviewer
In 1979, Monty Python reconvened for the Life of Brian and of course George Harrison played such a key role. He underwrote the film. He paid for it, didn't he?
Eric Idle
So we started to make it in Tunisia and build sets in our own money. And then Lou Gray read it and he said, we're not making this at all. This is not us. Then we had to go to New York and try and raise the money for this film that had just been now banned. Nobody wanted to know. And George saying, I found you the money, I've got it. And he'd mortgaged his house and he'd mortgaged his offices and he raised the cash from the bank and put it all on the Life Of Brian.
Interviewer
That's astonishing, isn't it?
Eric Idle
It's astonishing. Cause it would never have been made, I think.
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Welcome to the interview from the BBC World Service with Eric Idle.
Interviewer
You were born in South Shields but brought up, I believe, in various parts of the uk. Where are your earliest memories rooted?
Eric Idle
I think I would say Wallasey. I was at School at 5, Merseyside. On the Merseyside, yes. And then at 7, I went to exotic Wolverhampton, where there are lots of memories, but not always good ones. I was there for 12 years at a boarding school which was paid for by the raf.
Interviewer
And this is because your father, I believe, died when you were two and a half?
Eric Idle
Yeah.
Interviewer
And so you were brought up by your mother alone. Did you have siblings?
Eric Idle
No.
Interviewer
So how did she cope?
Eric Idle
Well, she. I mean, she didn't really, but she was a health visitor in Wallasea and then I went to school there and then she found this RAF place where it had taken over an orphanage. Really, the oddest thing of all about being in school, there was. Was nobody had a father and I think that's psychologically very strange.
Interviewer
And none of the kids there.
Eric Idle
Well, I mean, they're all being paid for by the raf. I'm very grateful for that, actually, because without that I wouldn't have gone to university at all. I mean, it was, you know, later on, you found your escape by reading and learning as you got older.
Interviewer
In the notes that you sent us, you mentioned getting a guitar and a typewriter when you were around 12 years old. So, you know, of course, course, being known as a comic performer, a writer and a songwriter, that they sound very significant gifts to have received.
Eric Idle
Well, I think the thing was, Elvis appeared on television and that just changed our lives. We just loved him. So I wanted a guitar immediately. And now we're in a little skiffle group and we played, you know, and I. I always had the guitar. I'VE had it ever since. But my GR gave me a typewriter because I used to write short stories and, and things and read out to the form. But having a little portable typewriter was amazing.
Interviewer
So at the age of 12, did you imagine from then that you might have a future as an entertainer in some way or a writer?
Eric Idle
No, I mean, you know, it was getting through the week, really. I mean, you know, they said what you're going to be on. I think I'd always say journalists because it seemed like a writing thing to do, but I didn't have an idea what it really meant.
Interviewer
So writing was your main outlet then, at that time, with that typewriter?
Eric Idle
Well, reading has always been my main outlet because I think that allows you in a big school, like at a dormitory with a hundred yards long. In a big school, privacy is what you need. And so reading was the real escape.
Interviewer
So a whole school full of fatherless boys.
Eric Idle
I know.
Interviewer
What did that do for the bonding process or the dynamics? Social dynamics.
Eric Idle
It made you into gangs. You were very. Our form was very. You know, we'd climb over the wall and get beer and chase girls. And they never took a straight exam ever, because we'd always break into the master studies, take the back off their cupboards, get the exam papers and then exam paper itself and we'd write out the answers and take them into the exam. So the only straight exam they ever took was o level at 16. And when I came back from that, there were only six of us left. They'd all gone because they didn't really learn anything, they just copied.
Interviewer
And what was the teaching like?
Eric Idle
Pretty poor. But I mean, my history teacher was great and geography teacher. And my history teacher wrote to Pelham College and recommended me at Cambridge. And that was kind of unusual because nobody went to college, even university. So when I got to Cambridge, the first thing I did was audition for the Comedy Review because that changed my life.
Interviewer
Was that part of Footlights?
Eric Idle
No, it's just a Pembroke College review. And they gave. The first sketch I ever did, they gave to me was written by John Cleese.
Interviewer
Did you, when you first met John Cleese, at that point, did you establish a rapport relationship with him?
Eric Idle
Well, he came with Humphrey Barclay and they were very kind and encouraging and they said, you must join the. I think. And then I did the next term you had to audition a live audition with. In a smoking concert there. It was very strange because I looked down. What's his name? Amos Kingsley Ames was sitting on the front row. I remember not being able to believe Kingsley Amos was sitting there watching me audition for the Footlights. Then they put me in the Edinburgh Festival replacement cask and I did all the Bill Oddie roles, which were mainly songs, so I learned about singing funny songs. He wrote very, very witty lyrics, Bill. And then when he did I'm sorry, I'll read it again, every week he'd do a new song and I became a writer for that.
Interviewer
This is just after Edinburgh, when you started first writing for television and radio on I'm Sorry, I'll Read that again. And also the Frost Report, of course. Yes, on television and writing for those shows as well were John Cleese, Graham Chapman, Michael Palin and Terry Jones. So was there a bond between you immediately as a quintet?
Eric Idle
Well, Khalil was actually in the show and Marty Felman was a script editor and it was lovely. Every Major and Barry Choir, all the major writers and they just. We were very young at 23, and they were very kind and helpful and accepting and encouraged us. The lowest amongst the jobs was writing just one liners for David Frost. And then we won the Golden Rose from Montreux.
Interviewer
Was there a time then, was there a moment around when you were all writing for Frost that you started to look at each other and think we could work together? What was that? What was.
Eric Idle
Oh, it was a while before that, but Humphrey Barkley again, he asked me to write a children's television show called do not adjust your set. And I said, okay, I will, but I want Mike and Terry. And so the three of us wrote it and there was this very strange group called the Bonzo Dog Doo Band, an art school band, and they were very weird and I think they altered the way they put Bit of the madness into Python because we were writing tight little Oxford and Cambridge Review sketches, but they were much more situationist and did weird songs and weird performances and I think they had a very strong influence.
Interviewer
And that's where you got that absurdity, the surrealism.
Eric Idle
I think that really pushed the surrealism. And that when Gilliam came and joined for the second series and Mike and Terry said, no, absolutely not, go away. And I said, no, no, no, there's something about this bloke because he was an artist, a cartoonist.
Interviewer
So eventually you all joined forces.
Eric Idle
I think John got an offer from the BBC and then we had an offer from ITV saying, now you've done so well, we'd like you to have a grown up show at 9 o'. Clock. Unfortunately, we can't give you a studio for another 18 months. And so in the meanwhile, John and Graham said, oh, we've got this offer from the BBC for a Sunday night show. We thought, well, we might as well do that while we're waiting for a big break.
Interviewer
So Monty Python's Flying Circus first came about as a sort of fill in.
Eric Idle
Well, which we thought, well, why not? We might as well just do this one and then we're going to get that, you know. Yeah.
Interviewer
Famously, John Cleese and Graham Chapman wrote together and Terry Jones and Michael Palin were the other writing duo. Did you always write alone?
Eric Idle
Yes, I did. I don't like talking to people in the morning. I think you shouldn't speak to anybody before lunch. So I'm a very early writer. I get up early, I write at 5:30, and I write alone. And people say, well, how was that? And I said, well, I still work with myself. I've still got myself as a partner.
Interviewer
The five of you and Terry Gilliam. So it's six. Was it a comic marriage of convenience or did you all get on?
Eric Idle
I think the thing is, we had no idea what we were going to do. I think we'd done our, you know, that 10,000 hours thing. We'd done our 10,000 hours. We were in the right space and the BBC didn't really care. They were just trying out this empty slot they had at 10 o' clock on a Sunday night when the pubs closed. They had the feeling that people were still awake and so they weren't really concerned. They didn't read the scripts. They said, just go away and make 13 shows. So we didn't really know what we were going to do, so we were sort of pushing the boundaries. We got rid of punchlines, for example, because it's so boring. You do a whole sketch and then it all depends on the punchline. And Gilliam was often given the task of taking the sketch on into the setup for the next sketch, visually with his animations. And I think that gave the whole show a framework and it seemed like it was about something.
Interviewer
Yes. But it became popular even in America, though, which is surprising given so much of the humor was very, very British.
Eric Idle
It only became popular in America after we'd finished doing it, so we weren't bothered by stardom, which was very nice. It came on quite by chance when we were opening the Holy Grail, so that would be 1975. So when we hit New York, we were kind of a cult hit, you know, and then they saw the movie Holy Grail, and that was the first time we were Sort of realized that people, there's something special going on here.
Interviewer
Even Elvis was a fan, I think, wasn't he?
Eric Idle
I couldn't believe it. I found it in a book that Elvis called everybody squire after my nice night sketch, which, which was a. You know, it saved my life at boarding school. I couldn't believe it.
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BBC Presenter John Wilson
for this episode of the interview, I'm speaking to the English comedian, writer, musician and actor Eric Idle. We recorded the interview at BBC Broadcasting House in London on a Saturday morning. Eric arrived alone, no publicists or manager, and he was wearing a T shirt adorned with a hand drawn image and slogan. Under a sketch of a human skull were the words, always look on the bright side of life. Part greatest hit reminder, part memento mori. He was, as you'd expect, charming and funny and he was keen to explore the various creative influences behind his work with Monty Python and beyond. Okay, let's return to my conversation with Eric Idle. George Harrison, how did you meet him?
Eric Idle
Well, he befriended me. I mean, it was 50 years ago that I went with Gilliam to LA and we had a screening of the Holy Grail at the Directors Guild. And at the end of it, Tommy tapped me on the shoulder. I turned around, it was George Harrison. He said, I've been looking for you. Come on. And then we talked all night and we sort of bonded.
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Podcast: The Interview (BBC World Service)
Date: April 5, 2026
Host: John Wilson
Guest: Eric Idle
In this lively, revealing conversation, Eric Idle—founding member of Monty Python—reflects on a lifetime in comedy. The interview charts his journey from challenging childhood, through the anarchic creation and enduring influence of Monty Python, to his creative collaborations with cultural icons like the Beatles’ George Harrison. Idle is candid, witty, and thoughtful, examining his motivations, working processes, and why, for him, nothing is off limits in comedy.
Timestamps: 03:46–06:16
Upbringing and Loss
Mother and Solitude
Formative Gifts and Inspirations
Escape through Reading
Timestamps: 06:16–09:48
School Antics
Influential Teachers
Comedy Beginnings
Monty Python Connections
Timestamps: 08:16–10:42
“Do Not Adjust Your Set” and the Bonzo Dog Band
The Gilliam Factor
Formation of Monty Python’s Flying Circus
Innovation over Convention
Timestamps: 10:42–12:09
Writing Alone
Creative Synergy
Timestamps: 12:09–13:00
“Cult Hit” in America
Notable Fans
Timestamps: 02:56–03:41, 14:24–14:46
How the Beatles Saved Python
Bonding with Harrison
Eric Idle’s reflections traverse his unorthodox upbringing, the accidental teamwork that led to Monty Python, and his creative processes—always underpinned by a belief that in comedy, nothing is off limits. His stories about formative influences, creative partnerships, and the sheer luck involved in Monty Python’s lasting impact are delivered with characteristic intelligence, wit, and humility. The episode is essential listening for fans of comedy, creativity, and cultural history.