Podcast Summary: The Interview – Guillermo del Toro, Director: “I Only Make Movies for Art” (BBC World Service, Mar 4, 2026)
Overview
This episode of The Interview features Oscar-winning director, screenwriter, and producer Guillermo del Toro. Hosted by BBC’s John Wilson, the conversation explores del Toro’s childhood in conservative Guadalajara, his early exposure to religion and death, his love of monsters and the supernatural, the autobiographical nature of his films, and his unwavering commitment to artistic integrity. Del Toro reflects on his creative influences, including his parents, literature, art, Alfred Hitchcock, and the Romantic painters. The episode closes with his views on technology in filmmaking, the streaming revolution, and what truly motivates his work.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
Del Toro’s Childhood and Family
- Upbringing in Guadalajara
- Raised in a deeply traditional, Catholic environment—a city that “even if it was the ’60s, it felt like the 1800s.”
- Father, a former motorcycle racer, won Mexico’s national lottery, suddenly changing the family’s fortunes and surroundings ([03:27–04:27]).
- Religious Influence and Fear
- Great aunt (whom he called grandmother) raised him strictly Catholic, instilling fear of purgatory and death ([05:45–06:39]).
- She physically punished him to “atone for original sin” by placing bottle caps in his shoes ([05:45–06:12]).
- Created deep anxiety about death.
- “Every night I would sleep at the foot of her bed... She would say, ‘If I wake up, because God may choose to pick me up tonight.’” ([07:46]; also [06:13–07:27]).
- Great aunt (whom he called grandmother) raised him strictly Catholic, instilling fear of purgatory and death ([05:45–06:39]).
- Parental Contrasts
- Mother: Bohemian, artistic, traveled, read tarot; father: practical, aloof ([06:39–07:27]).
Early Fascination with Monsters and Storytelling
- Nature of Monsters
- “That’s why I embrace monsters, because monsters have a clarity of purpose. When you look at them, you know what they are.” ([02:46], [12:06])
- Creative Origins
- Bilingual by age 4 or 5, obsessed with movies and genre fiction ([05:07–05:25]).
- Made Super 8 stop-motion films at age 8 (“Planet of the Apes,” “The Killer Potato”) ([13:48–14:19]).
- “It’s the happiest experience to this day I’ve ever had making movies, because I saw the image projected on the screen and... I made that.” ([13:48–14:12])
Connection Between His Life and His Films
- Autobiographical Elements
- Childhood feelings of abandonment, paternal distance, and the experience of orphaned children pervade his stories:
- “Every character I write has to have something of me, whether it’s Michael Mori in Pacific Rim or Hellboy or the Kids, or in this case, the creature and the Doctor on Frankenstein.” ([10:11])
- “As you get older, you write yourself as the antagonist.” ([10:11])
- Films like Pan’s Labyrinth, The Devil’s Backbone, and Kronos draw directly from personal trauma ([09:50–10:41]).
- Childhood feelings of abandonment, paternal distance, and the experience of orphaned children pervade his stories:
- Father-Son/Creator-Monster Duality
- “The physical monstrosity is something that when you grow as an outsider, for whatever reason... certain souls are made of a crystal that fractures with reality. Mine was one of those. I was not really good at reality. I was very good at fiction.” ([10:59])
- Profound curiosity with the Christ figure: “Why would a father send his child to be crucified? What was God trying to learn?” ([11:37])
Views on Art, Happiness & Faith
- From Fear to Comfort
- Once “mortally afraid of dying,” del Toro says, “Now I’m completely free of that fear.” ([07:46], [12:06])
- “I aged into a form of happiness. The most unhappy period of my life is in my childhood.” ([02:46], [12:06])
- Relationship to Religion
- “I don’t like anything that needs a building. I am very spiritual. I come to believe that good is good, and it’s a state of grace.” ([12:42–12:56])
Artistic Influences and Education
- Self-Education
- Del Toro read widely as a child, consuming medical encyclopedias, world literature, and volumes of art history ([20:11–21:08]).
- “I became the youngest hypochondriac. I would go to my mother and say, I think I have trichinosis in the brain. I think I have cirrhosis...” ([20:33–21:05])
- Deep interest in Romantic artists (Goya, Blake, Caspar David Friedrich) for their “eloquence and grandeur” ([22:14–22:37]).
- “They want to be operatic, they want to move you instantly and… transmit a mood.” ([22:21])
- Del Toro read widely as a child, consuming medical encyclopedias, world literature, and volumes of art history ([20:11–21:08]).
- Hitchcock as Film School
- Admiration for Alfred Hitchcock; wrote a 500+ page book on him at age 21 ([16:20–17:10]).
- Hitchcock taught him “the discipline of storytelling... an emotion is the effect of arrangement and composition of audiovisual elements.” ([19:26])
- “What is film but a rectangle charged with emotion?” ([19:26])
- Admiration for Alfred Hitchcock; wrote a 500+ page book on him at age 21 ([16:20–17:10]).
Technology, AI, & Modern Cinema
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AI and Art
- Strongly opposes artificial intelligence for filmmaking:
- “It offers me the opportunity of never being in contact with it. I’m not interested at all.” ([23:14])
- “Ones and zeros don’t experience loss or gain or pain or… bereavement. How can they speak about love and transcendental emotions if they’re programmed permutations?” ([23:45–24:26])
- Strongly opposes artificial intelligence for filmmaking:
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Streaming and the Value of Cinema
- Defends his partnership with Netflix for Pinocchio and Frankenstein:
- “Everybody passed and Netflix came to me… and he [Ted Sarandos] gave me theatrical release and, more importantly, complete freedom.” ([24:52])
- “It would be very hard for me, born in 64, to defend that [only theatrical experience matters]. What I can defend is that the best experience will be in a theater… But the final piece for me is Frankenstein had hundreds of millions of people were exposed to it after only a few days.” ([24:52–26:25])
- Defends his partnership with Netflix for Pinocchio and Frankenstein:
Commitment to Art over Commerce
- Making Films as Biography
- “I have never made a movie I didn’t believe was necessary…. only done for the art….every movie I made has five biographies of some sort, even Blade 2.” ([26:46])
- Has turned down major commercial projects in favor of personal work. “Rather than take a movie that they commissioned from me, I’ve been offered huge franchises, and I said, I don’t understand them.” ([27:47])
- Creative Drive
- “Lost causes. I really want to do things that nobody else wants to do. If it looks like nobody should make that movie, that’s the movie I try to make. I am the truffle seeker of impossible movies to make.” ([27:50])
- “[With] Pinocchio, yes, but I want to do it during the rise of Mussolini. Jesus Christ. Make your life a little easier, won’t you?” ([27:50])
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On Monsters and Clarity
- “Monsters have a clarity of purpose. When you look at them, you know what they are. You don’t see Godzilla enter a city and think, what does he want?”
— Guillermo del Toro, [02:46], [12:06]
- “Monsters have a clarity of purpose. When you look at them, you know what they are. You don’t see Godzilla enter a city and think, what does he want?”
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On Creative Freedom with Netflix
- “He [Ted Sarandos] gave me the scale, the chance to make them. He gave me theatrical release that was considerable for me, but more importantly, complete freedom.”
— Guillermo del Toro, [24:52]
- “He [Ted Sarandos] gave me the scale, the chance to make them. He gave me theatrical release that was considerable for me, but more importantly, complete freedom.”
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On AI in Filmmaking
- “It offers me the opportunity of never being in contact with it. I’m not interested at all.”
— Guillermo del Toro, [23:14] - “That’s the difference between a microwave and an atomic bomb. They’re not the same.”
— Guillermo del Toro, [23:45]
- “It offers me the opportunity of never being in contact with it. I’m not interested at all.”
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On Commitment to Art
- “I have never made a movie I didn’t believe was necessary for me or for someone in the world... It’s been only done for the art.”
— Guillermo del Toro, [26:46]
- “I have never made a movie I didn’t believe was necessary for me or for someone in the world... It’s been only done for the art.”
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On Lost Causes
- “Lost causes. I really want to do things that nobody else wants to do. If it looks like nobody should make that movie, that’s the movie I try to make.”
— Guillermo del Toro, [27:50]
- “Lost causes. I really want to do things that nobody else wants to do. If it looks like nobody should make that movie, that’s the movie I try to make.”
Timestamps of Important Segments
- Family Background & Childhood: [02:03–07:27]
- Religion, Death, and Monsters: [05:25–12:39]
- Autobiography in Films, Parental Figures: [08:39–10:41]
- Connection to Art, Literature, and Hitchcock: [16:10–17:46]; [20:11–22:42]
- Views on Technology and AI: [23:14–24:26]
- The Streaming Revolution: [24:52–26:25]
- Film as Biography, Artistic Integrity: [26:46–27:50]
- Closing Insights on Creative Motivation: [27:50–end]
Tone and Language
Del Toro’s language is reflective, candid, humor-tinged, and deeply passionate about the redemptive power of art and storytelling. The interview moves fluidly from personal trauma to creative inspiration, always connecting experience with artistic vision.
For listeners and creators alike, this is a portrait of an artist wholly committed to making cinema that is personal, poetic, and, above all, meaningful.
