In today’s episode, Shawn O’Malley (@Shawn_OMalley_) discusses how companies can age just like people, how to define and understand the corporate life cycle, why the corporate decline phase is both inevitable and almost always poorly managed, how to invest across the corporate life cycle, plus so much more from studying Aswath Damodaran and recent research from Michael Mauboussin & Dan Callahan of Morgan Stanley.

Aswath Damodaran is a renowned professor of finance at NYU who recently published a book on corporate life cycles. Shawn pulls from Aswath and other sources in painting an actionable picture of the corporate life cycle and how it affects investors while also diving into case studies on three aging companies: Intel, Walgreens, and Starbucks.

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IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN

00:00 - Intro

02:18 - Why companies age

07:37 - What the corporate life cycle looks like

18:03 - How companies can age gracefully (and why most don’t)

23:35 - How Intel, Walgreens, and Starbucks face different and similar challenges of aging

29:23 - Which declining stock Aswath Damodaran is investing in

34:31 - Investing strategies based on the corporate life cycle

36:59 - Why it’s important to diversify across the corporate life cycle

43:19 - Why younger companies carry more duration risk

And much, much more!

*Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences.

BOOKS AND RESOURCES

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Clay Finck’s interview with Aswath Damodaran on We Study Billionaires | YouTube Video.
Morgan Stanley’s paper on stages of the corporate life cycle.
Damodaran’s free online course about the corporate life cycle.
Book: The Corporate Lifecycle by Aswath Damodaran.
Book: The Little Book of Valuation by Aswath Damodaran.
Blog post on the investing implications of the corporate life cycle.
Check out the case study on aging on Intel, Starbucks, and Walgreens.
Aswath Damodaran’s YouTube channel.
Aswath Damodaran’s free mobile app for valuation.
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