A Warning to America From Britain’s Front Lines

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Isabel Brown Show

A Warning to America From Britain’s Front Lines

Host: Isabel Brown (The Daily Wire)
Guest: Tommy Robinson
Date: February 27, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode features controversial British activist Tommy Robinson, known for his outspoken criticism of Islamic immigration and its perceived effects on British society. Isabel Brown hosts an in-depth discussion about the transformation Robinson has witnessed in the UK, focusing on topics like immigration, grooming gangs, loss of national identity, legal persecution (“lawfare”), and what he believes is an impending Christian and cultural revival. Robinson offers warnings to Americans about similar trends, advocating for proactive cultural defense. The conversation is passionate, combative, and full of firsthand reflections, aiming to illuminate issues largely ignored, according to the guest, by mainstream media and political elites.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Tommy Robinson’s Background and Awakening

• Robinson describes his upbringing in Luton, a British town he claims was transformed by Islamic immigration—from “one mosque” at his birth in 1982 to “45” now.
• He traces cultural and safety changes to the influx of Muslim immigrants, describing them as unassimilated and pointing to the rise of extremist groups and street-level crime.
• Quotes:
  • “More Islam, the less freedom.” (Robinson, 00:37)
  • “I watched the change in demographic and the effect that comes with open border, mass immigration.” (Robinson, 03:29)
• Early activism began in 2004 when, after witnessing and documenting sexual abuse and crime in his town, he organized protests and distributed leaflets alleging official inaction:
  • “Whites and blacks are being religiously and racially targeted by Muslim gangs.” (03:29)

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2. Grooming Gangs and Official Silence

• Robinson describes his first-hand experiences and family stories involving organized sexual exploitation of girls by “Muslim gangs”—a scandal he insists was ignored for decades due to political correctness and fear of “racism” allegations.
• He references the infamous Rotherham and Telford cases, asserting the authorities, media, and political establishment colluded in a "conspiracy of silence" to protect themselves and the Muslim “vote bank.”
• Notable statistics and claims:
  • “Rotherham… 3.7% Muslim population… 1400 children were raped.” (21:06)
  • “90% of the groups of men who rape children, Muslim.” (34:54)
• Quote:
  • “Political correctness… allowed the rape of a generation so no one would be called racist.” (Robinson, 21:31)

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3. Rise of the English Defence League and Legal Persecution

• In 2009, after a soldiers’ parade was disrupted by Islamist protestors, Robinson co-founded the English Defence League (EDL) to confront radical groups and publicize abuse scandals.
• He attributes the government’s eventual crackdown on radical groups not to concern for victims, but reaction to popular outrage prompted by street protests.
• Robinson and associates became subject to extensive legal and financial pressure—a strategy he calls “lawfare”:
  • “Since that start of that in 2009, three weeks into that movement, there’s not been one time… where I haven’t had a court case hanging over my head.” (19:01)
• Quote:
  • “The process is the punishment, because it exhausts you, it tires you, it breaks you... it financially destroys you.” (Robinson, 49:19)

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4. Warning to America: “Don’t Think It Can’t Happen Here”

• Brown questions Robinson about parallels between trends in the UK and current developments in the US (e.g., Somali communities in Minnesota, imams declaring intent for an Islamic America).
• Robinson urges Americans to “wake up,” warning of demographic change, electoral consequences, and the political use of mass immigration:
  • Quote:
    • “1% Muslim population is 1%. Look how brave they’re getting already... It’s a population replacement. They're bringing in voters.” (26:38)
  • He cites examples from Europe of rising violent crime statistically associated with recent Muslim immigration and asserts similar patterns will emerge in the US unless actively countered.
• Quote:
  • “Islam’s a political ideology... and they will use democracy to end it.” (27:28)
  • “Are you willing to sacrifice your daughters, your women, your mothers, your sisters? ...When your borders are open, you’re being told, diversity is your strength... Maybe you do [need immigration], but... not from host countries that... promote supremacy and hatred and violence.” (34:54)

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5. Cultural and Christian Revival as Response

• Robinson and Brown discuss what they see as an emerging tide of Christian and cultural pride in the UK and US, driven by anxieties about cultural loss and backlash against left-wing or “woke” policies.
• Robinson describes attempts to unite influencers and “patriots” across the UK around a core set of values: free speech, opposition to sexualization of children, control of mass immigration, recognition of Islam as a challenge, and affirmation of British cultural identity.
  • “We need to agree on these values… If we agree to work together… we’re going to reach every single demographic in this country.” (36:03)
• He credits large citizen rallies (30,000 and later 100,000+) and social media coordination (supported by Elon Musk’s ownership of X/Twitter) for catalyzing a “revolution brewing” in Britain.
  • “Citizen journalism is the cure.” (43:29)
  • “Seen more than 3 million people were walking through London at your event to reclaim British culture… I saw something bigger than humanity moving through that crowd. I would call it the Holy Spirit.” (Brown, 44:46)
• Robinson, initially non-religious, now stresses the power of spiritual unity and identifies the “void” left by attacks on Christianity as a vulnerability exploited by radical ideologies.

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6. Lawfare, Media Manipulation, and Resilience

• Robinson details legal tactics used to silence opposition, media “smears,” and even solitary confinement as parts of a larger, pan-European trend to suppress anti-immigration, anti-Islamist voices.
  • “What they’ve done to Donald Trump… is what they do to us… The process is the punishment.” (49:19)
• He claims his documentary about his own legal case became a viral sensation (thanks to renewed X access via Elon Musk), mobilizing support and exposing systemic corruption.
• Quote:
  • “I walked straight up to the camera as I walked out of prison gates: 13th of September. We’re coming… There’s a revolution brewing in Britain.” (50:50)

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7. Call to Resilience and Defiant Message to the West

• In closing, Robinson appeals to Americans—and Westerners in general—not to be cowed by accusations of racism or threats to livelihood, but to defend inherited freedoms and cultural identity.
  • “You’ve got to speak. And if you don’t, your kids are next… Free speech is not free. Previous generations sacrificed everything…” (Robinson, 53:00)
• Brown thanks Robinson, emphasizing the need for courage and cross-Atlantic solidarity.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "More Islam, the less freedom." (Robinson, 00:37; 03:29)
• “Political correctness… allowed the rape of a generation so no one would be called racist.” (21:31)
• "Citizen journalism is the cure." (43:29)
• “You’ve got to speak. And if you don’t, your kids are next... Free speech is not free.” (53:00)
• “Revolution’s brewing, yeah... The fight’s on.” (02:09; 51:37)
• "Are you willing to sacrifice your daughters, your women, your mothers, your sisters? ...That's what you're being asked to do." (34:54)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• 00:32 — Robinson introduces himself and outlines demographic change in Luton
• 03:29–11:30 — Detailed description of early experiences with crime, protests, and resistance
• 14:25–19:01 — EDL formation, lawfare, mainstream media response, grooming gang coverups
• 21:31–23:51 — Political correctness, vote bank politics, parallel trends in the US
• 26:38–30:49 — Warning to America, parallels with Minnesota, Manchester, and crime statistics
• 36:03–44:46 — Cultural/civic revival, influencer coalition, large-scale rallies, police-community relationship
• 44:55–51:37 — Specifics of mass demonstrations, spiritual/Christian elements, media coverage, documentary release and legal reprisals
• 53:00–54:36 — Final exhortation on resilience and historical context
• 55:20 — Where listeners can follow Robinson’s work (trfilms.co.uk, X, YouTube)

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Closing Thoughts

This episode is charged, assertive, and unapologetically polemical, fusing personal testimony, political critique, and cultural advocacy. Tommy Robinson, heavily controversial in both the UK and abroad, recounts his experiences and offers a transatlantic warning—urging Americans to recognize, resist, and reverse what he sees as the social and legal consequences of unregulated immigration and ideological intimidation. The conversation ultimately points toward collective action, identity revival, and renewed engagement as antidotes to Western decline.

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

I was born in 1982 and when I was born in Luton, there was one mosque. It's now 45.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

More Islam, the less freedom. I'm in a unique position where my fingers on the pulse as I walk down the prison gates 13th of September. We're coming. The revolution's brilliant.

[C]

You guys have been begging for this conversation for a very long time. And I got an extra special text message earlier this week that our friend from across the pond, Tommy Robinson would be here in the United States for several weeks and he's here in Washington D.C. right now to tell us what's really happening inside of the UK with the mainstream media with the biggest talking heads and even what most politicians are refusing to ignore with the erasure of Western civilization right before our eyes. And this guy has seen the writing on the wall long before anyone else and I can't wait to pick his brain. Please join me in welcoming Tommy Robinson to the show. Tommy, thank you so much for being here.

[B]

I'm blessed to be here. I've been waiting to come America. I've kept my eye on American politics for so long. I've been engrossed in it. And I think I've watched the January 6th. I've watched the election, Joe Biden's election. I think we were feeling the pain but I don't know if Americans realize the hope that what we've witnessed happen with Donald Trump and, and the hope is give us. If America loses, which you had lost over those four years, your borders rope and all the same diseases and problems are infecting us. We saw affecting here.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And if, if America falls, we all fall. If America has free speech, then that ripple shoots to us.

[C]

I bet that's hard to admit as a Brit, a little bit right The. The sad, evil, rebellious Americans who broke off and destroyed the empire. They have all of the writing on the wall for what's right now. Right. I hear that a lot from Brits. They hate to admit it, but America's doing some great stuff.

[B]

Like, yeah, I'll watch it. And just think, I know that even our. There's a revival happening in Britain. We'll get onto all this. There's a Christian revival, there's a political revival, some. There's a cultural revolution happening. It would not have happened without the election of Donald Trump. It would not have happened with Elon Musk. We sit and listen to. I listen to JD Vance's speech in Munich. I listen to Rubio. And we just sit there. And for us, it gives us light for us. Because. Because many times I'm. We've been. We're in a bad situation. And many times we. I felt beaten. And there's always something. And then as we're watching, we're thinking right now, let's go. The fight's on.

[C]

The fight's on. Okay, so let's just start with what you're fighting for and maybe fighting against. Years and years ago, you were called this terrible extremist on British television because you saw some terrifying predictions for what would happen if Islam really were to take over the United Kingdom and their values were to perpetrate British culture. Everyone said you were crazy. This crazy conspiracy theorist, some guy who needs to be locked in prison because your views are just too insane. Walk us through now. What the. The last few years have felt like watching this happen, despite your warnings.

[B]

So I was born in 1982, and when I was born in Luton, which is a town 30 miles north of London, there was one mosque. There's now 45. Wow. So I'd sat and watched the change in demographic and the effect that comes with open border, mass immigration. I'd seen the problems that Islam brought to the town. The more Islam, the less freedom. The attacks, the hostility, the violence, the rapes. I had a cousin who we can get onto. We're going to get onto grooming gangs. They call it grooming. It's rape jihad. It's young English girls being kidnapped by very large numbers of Muslim men. Passed around the entire community, switch from one community to another. They're being raped, tortured, murdered, even across the whole of the uk. But I saw this in Luton. I witnessed it, I experienced it. I. And Luton is a very diverse. One of the most diverse towns in. In Britain, in Europe, actually, one of the most. I've Earned people from every culture and every background. So I got to experience what works and what doesn't work. And growing up, we had the Islamic community and the non Islamic community. The divide lines in our town were never racial. There's never been racial problems. It was religious. When I went to school, you had the Muslim playground and the non Muslim playground. Now, we didn't create that because we all integrated and assimilated all the other groups, whether it be Saint Lucian, Jamaican, Bulgarian. My mother come to the UK as an Irish immigrant. We all just get on great. Yeah. But then there was this one section and at the time I didn't. When I was growing up as a kid, I didn't put it down to them being Muslim or Islam because there wasn't that much talk around it. They were Pakistani. 50 in the town's Pakistani. So they're Pakistani, they're from Kashmir. Kashmir. And they're just different. There's a whole different value system. They think differently, they treat women differently. Their views. What we think's good, they think's bad. What they think's bad, we think's good. So it's a total alien culture. It's like. And it. You can only describe it as mixing oil and water. That's not to say there's not some great Pakistani lads. There's not. I knew some great lads growing up, some wonderful human beings. I still have a lot of love for them. But per se doesn't work. So I watched all of that. I'd seen the rapes, I'd seen the. The terrorism. Luton was known. Named by the CIA as the epicenter of all terrorist activity for Europe. So Almajreddin, who are now a prescribed terrorist organization. But they weren't. Omar Bakri, Abu Hamzah. Some of the most famous terrorists in the world. Well, that organization's head office was on Biscuit Road in my town. Yeah. So that. So growing up, I remember it was the Beslem school massacre. After the Beslem school massacre, I remember standing there and it stopped me. And everyone. Everyone who's woke up, everyone who's opened their eyes and you know once you open your eyes, you can't close them. Yeah. Even if you wanna, you can't because you realize the fit. The danger that we're in the day. So I remember watching the Besom school massacre. And anyone who hasn't seen this, Chechnyan terrorists have took over a school. And then the parents. And this is coming again, mark my words, they're going to do it again. It's going to hit a UK school. It's going to hit a European school, probably a Jewish one. But they're going to do it. Yeah, they're going to take over a school, but they took over the school. And when they took over the school, the parents have come outside the school. And I remember as a young man, I was probably 19 or 20. I remember as a young man, I was watching this and I was seeing it happen. And then I realized it wasn't one man that took over this. It's a whole group of men. And then as the parents are outside, they start butchering and slaughtering the children inside the school. And the mums are on their knees and they're screaming and there's nothing they can do. And I remember just watching it, it was real. And I thought, what the hell is this? Like, what drives someone to do this? And it was a group which is 5. This isn't a psychopath. There's something else here. So I looked and I started looking at what had happened. A week later, I see a group of Pakistani Muslims in a chicken shop in Luton doing a video. There was a video online saying an attack like that would be justified in a UK school. And I was quite. I'm from Luton, was. Luton's a rough town. And I grew up and I elevated towards the football culture, which is young English men coming together on a football on a Saturday. And I looked at these men and thought, you're talking about a school in our country. Who the are you? Yeah. So then I went down the rabbit hole and excuse my French, I went down the rabbi. I thought, let me see who they are. That's when I realized Alma's reddened. So I started looking into terrorism, a jihad. And then I started understanding how they think and looking into how they think and understanding this organization are in my town. So then on this, this was going back to 2 fat. Then, then 2004, it was the first ever demonstration I'd organize and I made leaflets and I went around the town handing these leaflets out. And I called it ban the loot and Taliban because this same group was sending people to fight against our armed forces. Now when you go into our town center, you have to. You have to think about this. This is where you live. Yeah. When you go into our town center, they used to have paste tables set up outside Don Millers, which is a bakery every Saturday. And they're openly hordes of jihadists. And they're recruiting and they're. They're promoting so much hatred. They're Sending people on planes to fight against Britain and nothing stopping them. So I'm thinking you, how are they doing this? And I remember going down the week before and I stood in the town center, a police officer was there, I said, how are they doing this? And she said, it's his free speech. I said, let's see if this free speech next week. Yeah. So then the next week I got about 200 lads together and said, we're coming down to. We're coming. They're not. These terrorists are not taking over our town on Saturday. So, but I made the leaflets and in the leaflets and, and I've pulled these leaflets up for a presentation I give Oxford University. I went into the local library and I went back through history and I got the, got the front page of the newspaper. So because this leaflet is exactly what I'm saying now, I've never changed. And what I said in the leaflet is whites and blacks are being religiously and racially targeted by Muslim gangs. Muslims are using drugs as a weapon against our community. And they're getting our daughters and young underage children hooked on heroin and hooked on drugs to use in prostitution rings. That's what we now know as grooming. So I spoke about all these issues and what I asked in leaflet is if we know what shops they're using, we know who their gangs are. Why are the police not tackling this? Why? Because my cousin was 14, she woke up, she was in a house in the Muslim community, bearded men all raping her. She was 14 years old. Oh my gosh. Yeah. And the giant police. The police done nothing. I can remember the family meetings, the police didn't. And then. This is going to sound so far fetched, but we'll get into the details of what's going on across the whole of the uk and it's insane. This is the darkest stain on British history ever. When you hear what happened, and it's not just happened in my town, but I saw all of these experiences. I saw the terrorist attacks. I know children I grew up with have become lead figures in the terrorist organizations. I went, I used to hang around with one of the main ginger converts in our country. He was my mate. Yeah, I knew him growing up. He went to jail. We come out of jihadi, everyone's coming out of jailer jihadi, but all of it. So I've experienced all this, I see this in 2004, I make this leaflet and we all hit the town. The Muslims didn't turn up. The, the radicals didn't turn up because they knew 200 young men who were quite up for it are coming. So then we went there. But the full. And I stood on the town center steps and I read. And I've done this as my name. Stephen Lennon. Yeah, Stephen Yax Len. And I stood up and I read this leaflet out basically demanding the police act. Said you've got to act. They can't because there was literally every week someone's getting hurt in the town, whether it be women being raped or young men being beaten by Pakistani mobs and 20 men jumping one man and just attacks. That a level of a ferocity of violence that was just alien. It's just like, where's this come from? And when we look back now and the older generations look back, it was after the Gulf invasion, I think that was the radicalizing factor that really, boom, that jihad was born in Luton and these outside groups were coming in, terrorist organizations were coming in, setting up base in the UK across the UK And UK was used as a platform for these jihadis who were then sending people to fight against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan. But the radicalization factor was spreading throughout our town. And I'm just watching it and. And living it. We're living it after September 11, that I showed this in my Oxford Union presentation. They put posters everywhere. We lived the magnificent 19. They had celebrations in the town. The college erupted into cheers. This is where we live. So. And I tried to explain because I get condemned by. Oh, I used to get condemned by so many. I say, well, this isn't where you live. I get this, but this is where I live. This is my home. We have to stand in the bank next to these people. We have to share the community space with these. These barbarians.

[C]

Well, let me guess what happened. Your demonstration got shut down. So not free speech.

[B]

2004, we have that one demonstration, five years from that one demonstration where I used my own name and I stood in the town center. Every Pakistani gang in the town went for. I named the Gambit. So I named in 2007 A Pakistani heroin dealing gang called Gambinos. I named them in the. I named them on my leaflet and they printed the leaflet in the paper and I named their influence. What we have is a street level violence of gangs who sell drugs and pimp young girls. And they're aligned with the jihadists. They work together. Yeah. And 2000. So I said that in 2004. Now 2007, national newspapers run the same story, saying that and naming the same gang. It's like, yeah, I told you, it's three years ago. I lived there. Yeah, I've experienced all of this. But the full. The problem for me was after this they all went for me. So my house got smashed up. I couldn't go out. So if I went out, I'm lucky. As I said, I gravitated towards a football culture of young English men who just. Luton's a rough town within mind we're not going to back down. At that time, we weren't backing down. And so if I went out on the town, I had to go out in a group of 20 or 30 lads. When we're going out, we had to have a group because they're out and they'll come for you and if they're driving down the road, they're getting out of the car and hurting you. So that went on for years now. Fast forward 2009, I've got to the point in my life, I've got seven properties, I've got two businesses, I've got a family. We had a soldiers homecoming parade. The soldiers were given the freedom to march through Luton town center. As they march through Luton town center, what we didn't realize is that this same group who are out of control, you know, 60 of Muslims in jail for terrorism are ex members of this group. Yeah, that's the effect that they had. And they weren't prescribed, they weren't banned. Now they attacked our soldiers. They called them butchers of Basra, baby killers. They spat in the soldiers mum's faces. But that wasn't the issue. The issue for me, witnessing everything I'd witnessed in my life was I stood in the town that morning on a Tuesday morning, and I watched as all the jihadists and I know them all, so I watched as they. I went down, I saw police everywhere. I thought, what's going on for soldiers homecoming, there's so many. There's too many police here. And I watched as a large group of jihadists were taken through my town hall by the police. And they took them through and I thought, what's going on? Then I heard the commotion and the police took them through our council building to then be out that when they brought them out the back doors, they're on the front of the military march and they attacked the march. And I've run around the back and I'm watching it and I'm just thinking, you let them do that. How could you? You've. And the point we're at in the UK at that point is the government don't say no, to them. Yeah. About anything.

[C]

So this was 2009.

[B]

2009.

[C]

We're here more than a decade later now and certainly we see that same fear from the uk, culturally in the media and with people with the loudest microphones, but also from a legal perspective. And in fact, if you do speak out against this, typically you are the person that's going to be thrown in prison for a hateful Facebook comment or retweeting, maybe one of your posts as a British citizen. How did that escalate so quickly?

[B]

Well, it had. So 2009, when that happens, we form an organization called the English Defence League, which we sat down and said, right, no, this can't happen. This group we've got, we've got to combat this group. If the police are letting them get away, the government let them get away. We need to let the country know who they are. So we started a street protest movement and we hit the streets and we hit this group and we started following the group and highlighting the crimes they were doing and what they were, what they were up to. And lo and behold, after a few years of clashes, the government prescribed them. But they only prescribed them because they realized 10, 000 Englishmen are charging through the streets, they're upset, we're not having. And. And then this. When I, When I left Luton, we started as a united people. Luton. We realized. Then I started speaking to other football supporters around the country and I realized, well, this isn't a looting issue. Jesus, they're raping girls in every town. So I started meeting with families in other town groups in other town. Realized we need a national movement here. English Defense League. That's. So we formed a group and it was never going to be. I just. Because we get a bit of criticism. It was never going to be school teachers or nurses that were going to combat jihadists. Yeah. Or be brave enough to stand and say a certain sort of mentality. It says, no, we're not backing down. You're not beating us into submission. Yeah, you can beat us up, but we're not submitting you. So the English Defense League went on the. On I'll say the offensive. We hit the towns, we hit the cities and we made the point. And the biggest thing that shocked me was these rape gangs because I realized I know so many girls we've lost in Lewin. I know so many families whose daughters are gone. Cousin, my cousin, I know so many people. Yeah. And then I went to the other towns and I'm meeting everyone. I'm thinking this is Every town.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So we then started talking about the rape gangs. Now when you talk about lawfare. Yeah. You have to understand the level of, the level of criminality that was allowed to happen. There's been a conspiracy of silence. Religious leaders, political leaders, all of them, church leaders, they all knew this was happening. The media. Piers Morgan, you spoke about him earlier. He was in charge of the Daily Mirror newspaper. It's not hard to find out these crimes are happening. But no one spoke about it. Everyone was too scared. Now what's come out in government reports. So we form in 2009, we start hitting the cities are affected and there's videos, which. I'll go back and get the videos. I've done it for a presentation of us marching through these cities, saying with signs, our daughters are not allowed me street. Yeah. And Muslim rapists off our streets. And there's literally thousands of men. And the world's media's come because there's this explosion happening in the uk. Who's. I went from working on a building site and I was a successful young man. I. I didn't have to. I was, I was. As I said, I had seven properties, two businesses. I was very successful. But with what I experienced in 2004, I knew you can't talk about this. They're going to come for you. The violence you're going to face. Fast forward 2009, I'm witnessing it. I'm thinking, we've got to stand up. So I used a pseudonym, Tommy Robinson, and I wore a mask and no one knew who I was at first. So I'm leading this and I've gone from working on a building site to six months later. I can only call it a phenomenon that swept the country. It was like a wildfire. The English Defense League set up divisions in every town and city. Within months, like, there was just all men. Men had been waiting for something. So when someone stood up, men were just warm. It's happening. And then so. And we went. I went from leading. Working on a building site to leading the biggest street protest movement Europe has seen. But we highlighted the grooming issue now to understand the lawfare, because within the first six months of leading the English Fence League, three times my doors were kicked off. They arrested my pregnant wife, she was six months pregnant. They froze my assets, closed my companies. They come in like. And to understand why they done this, you have to understand. So the rape scandal, which we can get onto in Rotherham, where 1400 children were raped in this small town of Rotherham, that has a 3.7 Muslim population in this small town. The police officer that was in charge of the police the entire time during that is now in charge of counter terrorism. So the counselors, the Muslim councilors and many of the counselors were in charge of these towns and cities that allowed this to happen. They've all rose up through the ranks. So there's a hell of a lot of people in high ranking positions in Britain in 2009. They've covered this up for 30 years. They've allowed it. Now here's this group and they're pumping it and they're telling the country and I'm giving speeches on and I'm saying they're raping our daughters. And there's interviews. I was invited onto the Jeremy Paxman News Night and it has aged so badly for them because I'm sat on Jeremy Paxman, who's the most fearful, fierce interviewer for the BBC and I just said they're raping our daughters in every town and city. And everything. I said everyone didn't believe me. The media said I was fear mongering. The accusation of racist extremists. All of these things were thrown at me.

[C]

All of these before it was fashionable. Really. Now everybody gets called that for anything. Yeah.

[B]

But the thing is, it worked. So you see, you talked about fear earlier. I asked you prior to this interview, what's the biggest dangers? And it's fear. Well, fear is paralyzing and fear paralyzed an entire nation. It's embarrassing. We allowed a community to be imported into our nation and rape and pillage their way through it for 30 years. We allowed our daughters and what's come out. So we, we have this organization, we hit the streets, we face lots of criticism. Everyone attacks us, police raid us. I'm put in prison multiple times. They clamped down. They, they went for all of my family, they went back on all of my family taxes. They got me into negotiating positions where I had to plead guilty to charges for an agreement that they leave my wife alone. Yeah. So they got. We had the most extreme law fair since that, since that start of that in 2009, three weeks into that movement, there's not been one time from then till now, not one single moment where I haven't had a court case hanging over my head. Not one. I've got one now. I face 10 years in October. I face a 10 year prison sentence or so. I've just got off with two cases. Yeah. There's not been one single moment. So we talk about lawfare. There's not been one moment since then that I've had any peace of mind because I've been waiting for court, waiting for prison the whole time. But fast forward 2015, I'm sitting jail, I'm in jail, I'm in prison. And then bang. This Rotherham report that this explodes. Everything I've been saying has come out and I'm in jail watching it. And then I can see it on the news. I'm thinking whether to say vindicated. But yeah, you, you crushed us. Now, now. And you know what? I don't want Americans thinking this problem has been solved. And I don't American thinking this problem's immune. It's British problem.

[C]

Amen. Yeah. I want to get into that for sure.

[B]

Every town city in the uk, in Morocco. So in. In Holland they call it lover boy, it's tactic, which is Moroccan men. So they made educational videos dating back in 2007 where they tried to educate Dutch people about how the Moroccans are acting and, and grooming and raping the kids. Now in India it's called love Jihad. In the uk, they call it grooming. It's everywhere.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Wherever there's an Islamic community, this. But these problems. So this, this Robin report come out. 3.7 Robin has a 3.7 Muslim population. 1400 children were raped. The other town you'll hear about which has had a report like this is Telford. Now, Telford had a thousand victims. Five are dead, five are murdered. That. That town has a 1.77 million population. There's none there. My town has 50. So you can imagine what it's like there.

[C]

Sure, yeah.

[B]

In these sorts of places. So these sorts of crimes. And then when this report come out, we started finding out that the police knew, the senior ranking up police officers knew, the politicians knew. We find out that the reason the police didn't prosecute any of these men for raping kids was because they were scared of being called racist. So if you want to know how powerful political correctness is, because that's what this is, it's a disease. It allowed the rape of a generation so no one would be called racist. And not just that, the other, the other. You've just seen it in Minnesota. The other reason why the Labour Party, which is our Democrat Party, turned a blind eye and allowed it is for the vote bank. They can't upset the vote bank because they rely on the vote bank. And that ever increasing vote bank is going to be more and more powerful as we go forward. So no one wants to upset the Muslim community. We'd rather let The English kids get raped because we need these 50,000 votes, we need these 40,000 votes. So that's what we draw. So fast forward now where we are now, these issues which were impossible to talk about, which people went to jail to talk about, which people had death threats. I've had so many. There's six Muslims in jail, they got caught with guns and bombs on the way to kill us. They got 30 years. All of this has late. But all of this had to happen at the same time. It had to happen. You have to get. You had to, America. You had to have that election that was stolen. You had to have Joe Biden in for four years to awaken your nation.

[C]

I think of it as a gift now, to be honest.

[B]

Had to happen because otherwise you'd have in this position, the elections would have carried on being corrupted and you'd have been in this position another 10, 15 years and it would be worse off.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So we had to have all of these things had to happen. I know it's no consolation to the people who have been murdered, killed, terrorist attacks, but you need to get to the public, to a position. And for a decade I was banging my head against a brick wall and people hated me. And now we're a position where the problems I talked about in Luton, the rest of the country can see and they think, geez, he wasn't lying. Every word I said, there's nothing. And I'm not extreme, Eva. So they call me all these names. It's like, I'm not racist, I'm not extreme. I have a problem with an Islamic ideology that is supremacist, that wishes to subjugate us, that promotes hatred and violence. That's my problem. Shoot me down. It's pretty normal, but yeah, and now we're, now we're in.

[C]

I think the question that clearly we need to all ask ourselves based on the courage of this incredible man, is can we hit the pillow every single night knowing that we did everything we could that day to fight for our culture? I do that every single night on my absolute favorite mattress in the world, which is the only way I can get any sleep right now. With a 10 month old daughter, that can be a really confusing process. Making sure that the right mattress is something that is in your home and not just something you picked randomly off off of Amazon. But it doesn't have to be complicated. Our friends at Helix actually make it incredibly straightforward with their sleep quiz, which matches you to the perfect mattress based on your specific preferences and sleep needs. They are not Just another mattress company either. Helix is the most awarded mattress brand out there with glowing reviews from major publications like Forbes and Wired. And I promise it is not just marketing hype. A study they recently did found that 82% of participants actually saw an increase in their deep sleep cycle when they were sleeping on a Helix mattress. Which is pretty impressive when you think about how crucial quality sleep is for everything else in your life. You guys know the bags under my eyes speak for themselves. I'm not getting many hours of time at asleep when I go to sleep. Wow. See, there you go. I need even more sleep these days because I cannot get through an advertisement. But every time I do hit the pillow on my Helix mattress, I sleep like a baby. I am immediately out. There's no problem falling asleep. I immediately wake up feeling rested every single time I hear my daughter crying from the other room and my husband snores soundly throughout the entire night. So we know someone is sleeping through the night. Helix could not be more recommended for my family and we will never go back to another mattress. They even offer you free shipping straight to your door, a 120 night sleep trial so that you can test it out in your own home. And they make returns and exchanges so, so seamless if it's not quite right for you. Plus they back everything up with a limited lifetime warranty so you can start sleeping right tonight by ordering a Helix mattress today. Go to helixsleep.com isabel for 27% off site wide. That's helixsleep.com isabelfor 27% off site wide. And make sure you enter our show name the Isabel Brown show after checkout so that they know we sent you. You mentioned the threat to America that has become a bit novel in the last couple of years related to this Islamic takeover of culture. I think the last eight to nine months have been the loudest we've ever seen from this community in America. You see imams in places like San Diego say we are going to make America an Islamic country. There's basically nothing you can do about it. Certainly the election of Zoran Mamdani rattled a lot of cages, politically speaking, here in America. And everything we're seeing out of Minneapolis and beyond is as well. Do you have a message of warning to Americans for paying attention to this now as it was in your little small town where people think that could never happen here. Sure, it's happening in New York City, but it'll never happen in my state or my backyard. How can we prevent that from happening?

[B]

It's here it's here. Wake up. Yeah. 1% Muslim population is 1%. Look how brave they're getting already. Look how vocal they're getting already. Look at Minnesota. Look at the power. Look at the way they were allowed to commit such fraud. We'll take the fraud. It's not just for fraud. They'll be allowed to commit fraud. They'll be allowed to commit female gender malation. They'll be allowed to commit rapes. There will be a blind eye turn so long as agreement can be given. You see your swing states, there's. I think There was a 700 increase in your swing states in illegal immigration. What do you think they're doing? There will be no swing states. They're flooding them. Yeah. It's a population replacement. They're bringing in voters. If you look at the Somali community, they've come from one of the hottest places in the world and then they've put, they've. It's not like they've just found Minnesota. It's not like they've just stumbled across this freezing and they've set up base there. They've been bought there.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

They've been positioned. These communities are being positioned because they know the demographical change that they bring and they know you see them, they vote in a military fashion. Yeah. You don't. We don't. 86 million people didn't vote in America last year. The key Islam was elected off 9 million votes. 20 million didn't vote. We are asleep. You luckily sounding like your upbringing were brought up within the. With politics. Well, we're not. Most of us aren't. Most of us don't care. Yeah. In, in the UK anyway. We're asleep. Islam's a political ideology. They're political and they will use democracy to end it. And the biggest weapon, or the biggest is is the numbers. People say, oh, there's not that many of them. Do you know how quickly that changes? I don't think people understand the city of Manchester, which is the northern capital of, of the uk. Yeah. I looked at the numbers when, when there was a terrorist attack, Ariana Grande was. Her console was blown up. 26 children were massacred. Yeah. Joe, if we would had a, a band like Donald Trump bought in in his first presidency and he's bought in again. If Europe would have had that ban, there'd be another 300 people who wouldn't have been killed through terrorism. So those 26, Salman Abity was allowed to fly to Libya. You had a Libyan plan under Donald Trump. He was allowed to fly to Libya. Receive terrorist training in a failed state, an uncontrolled controllable state with, we don't have intelligence sharing with at the time. And he was allowed to travel back and then blow up a concert. And because people are worried about offending or getting upset or getting called a name, Donald Trump wasn't afraid. He put a ban. If we would have that ban, those 26 families wouldn't have lost their children. Yeah, but we see this attack. So when this attack happened in Manchester, Manchester's not really known for that many problems around Islam. Luton is my hometown. East London and Birmingham, major places. Yeah. Bradford, overseas. So I went up to Manchester, I stood outside of mosque, I started researching Manchester and when you start going down these rabbit holes, I stood outside the mosque and I found within a two mile radius of where I stood, 16 ISIS fighters from that two mile radius. Now in Britain we had in a three year period of that ISIS conflict, four times as many British Muslims in those three years went and joined ISIS than have ever joined the British military. We've had a Muslim population for 40 years, 50 years. In those three years, four times as many went to join ISIS. We have 40, 000 British Muslims on a terror watch list. 40, 000. Now this is where, this is where it's simply a numbers game. Yeah, yeah. 3,000 of those, 40,000 are monitored 24 hours a day, seven days a week. That cost 9 billion pound. Yeah. Think of all the jihad attacks, all the terrorism, all the murder we've, we've faced in the uk, Soldiers being beheaded in time, massacres in sh. In shopping centers, in, in, in restaurants, in, in theaters. We've had all these terrorist attacks now, 40,000. So when, when you looked at Manchester, I looked at the demographics in Manchester and they went from 25000 Muslims to 50000 in ten years. And then the next ten years they went from 50000 to a hundred thousand. So the pop. There's only a population of 500,000 in Manchester. So you skip another 10 years, your city's gone. Yeah, 30 years gone. Right. So what you don't understand is the doors were opened and they weren't open by mistake. So you have had Hispanic, Mexican immigration into the United States. I know it's been a problem. I know the cartels, I know all of this. But not for the last eight or 10 years. Your border has been open to Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Eritrea, Iraq. You do not know what's coming.

[C]

You know, I grew up outside of Denver and last year, the year before it was quietly announced that TSA had arrested more than 50 members of Al Qaeda in a one year period at Denver International Airport of all places. And no one was covering that in the media ever. But this has been going on for a very long time and I think it's just now dawning on people that this is a bit of a fight between Islam and the west, arguably in a much scarier, more sinister sense than the fight that we've had for my entire lifetime against the cartels and so many of these criminal organizations nations.

[B]

The seeds have been planted. The seeds are there, they're there, they're here. They've been bought in, they've been flooded. Your nation under Joe Biden. If you didn't let Donald Trump under Joe Biden. But, but that idea, that mindset, see your immigration. I used to look at America. I'm going back 10, 15 years when I first come here. I first come here in 2010 and I gave a speech called A Warning to America. I didn't have the platform I've got now, but my speech was called A Warning to America. And what I said is I wish someone come to my town 40 years ago, 30 years ago, and told me what they're going to do and how they're going to do it. Someone who had lived it. So I weren't there to talk about what I've read in the book. I'm just saying I've seen it. I've seen the way the government panda, the police panda. I've seen the control they get, the way they. And so you can understand why the parties then pander to them. Luton, my hometown, 2013, I'm leading the English Defense League. So I look at the demographical future of the town now. The Bangladeshi and Pakistani community. This is on the government website. The projected growth forecast for those communities by 2030, which is a 17 year period period is 70 to 77%. So say like a Minnesota, that community is going to double. Okay, it's going to double. Your community ain't. Now the white and black community increase in my town at the same time over the Same period was 1.2 to 1.4%. So as far as the Labor Party go, which is the Democrat Party here, we're irrelevant. Now in these towns have got this community that's doubling and doubling, doubling. They say 3.6 children is up to some, some, some, some numbers say five children per family, seven children per family. In, in, in France we have in the UK my local imam's got three wives and 14 children. We pay for all of it. This all sort of stuff's meant to be illegal. There's so many aspects that will come in. So I know there's a big push and you are. Get the fact that you've got politicians now. I met one yesterday, Keith Self. The fact that you've got a caucus set up within. Within. Within the Republican Party, within Congress, that's now up to the number of 42 that are willing to even have this discussion. You can get ahead of the curve. You don't have to end up like Europe. You don't have to. You've got a strong leader. You don't know if you're. Have a strong leader soon. So you need to get. He needs to. You need to get on this. But you've got the ability to prevent what's happened in Britain and Europe now, when you want to know what I'm. What I'm telling you to prevent. Yeah. Because this is what you need to prevent. Muslim population in the UK, men make up a population of 3%. The men do. Yeah. 3% the UK population. 90% of the groups of men who rape children, Muslim. So from 3%, you've got 90. 30 of the men convicted for those crimes are called Muhammad. 77 of the rapes in Paris last year, Muslim migrants. 77. 63% of the rapes across Sweden last year, Muslim migrants. 56% of the rapes in Germany last year, Muslim migrants. Now, if you look at Germany, when Angela Merkel said we need to open the borders because of the aging population, she let in a million Syrian migrants last year. From 2017 to 2022 rapes went up 45% in Germany. Yeah. Now, are you willing to sacrifice your daughters, your women, your mothers, your sisters? Because that's what you're being asked to do. Do. When your borders are open, you're being told, diversity is your strength and you need immigration. Maybe you do, but you can have it from host countries that don't. That don't have an alien culture which promotes supremacy and hatred and violence and wishes to subjugate your women under Sharia law. There's a big discussion happening now in the United States about Sharia law and it's being led by brave congressmen and sometimes people shift over in windows. Charlie Kirk shifted it. You've played your part in shifting it. If it wasn't for characters like you, these discussions wouldn't be happy and had. Yeah. Now you've got congressmen now and I've seen they're taking quite a lot of flak. Some of them, yeah. They are shifting that over window. They're making palatable to have this discussion that then brings a discussion area where people can actually listen and talk and understand what's going to happen to the United States. And you have to stop it. You have the ability. You can look, the failed state of France, the failed state of Germany, the failed state of Britain. They're failures. Why are they failures? Islamic immigration, not immigration.

[C]

Islamic immigration and cultural takeover in so many ways, which is why I'm honestly so inspired by your continued movement and what I'm seeing in the last year, more than anything out of the UK and so many other places around the world that are now realizing we can't just fight on defense against these ideas. We also have to go on offense and revive our culture and be proud of it. There are so many incredible voices doing that. We just spoke about Ava Vlaardingerbrook a few minutes ago, who's fantastic. She's so amazing. But I'm seeing that out of the UK right now. And you mentioned before we started recording that there is a growing Christian revival happening in the uk. We're certainly seeing that mirrored in America right now. Do you think that's out of a response to an Islamic takeover of culture and rerouting yourselves in Britain's identity as a Christian country?

[B]

Again, there was. There's a void and where they've attacked the church that, you know what they made it. They made it embarrassing to be a Christian. They made it embarrassing to be British. They made it. You made. They made you feel isolated. They made you not be able to celebrate identity, be ashamed of identity. This is through the education system, the media, the constant attacks and the attack on the church, the attack on the family. They've celebrated all these other cultures and identities. And when you have this void, which we have in Britain, we lost our soul. That was pretty much. I'd say the country lost its soul and it's lost its identity. It lost what built it. And when you have that void, things fill that void, whether it be LGBTQ plus, whether it be Marxism, Communism, or Islam. Yeah. So young British men who would have been attracted to a movement like ours, who many of them lost, started converting to Islam under pressure, wanting influence, and also wanting a sense of community. They've broke our community. They've used and they've. You. When you break the church, when you break all of these things, you've broke the community spirit. And I can tell you, I knew everyone, every single family, in every road, everywhere we went. Well, now they're moving and they're flooding and they're escaping and then you've lost that sense of identity and community. It brings people together, encouraged in that. And this is all what like, it's like chip, chip, chip, chip, chip. They slowly chip, chip, chip away. Like, the pub is the beaten heart of British culture now. When we started the English fence league in 2009, we built that movement from pubs. We met in pubs as young men. We spoke that. That was our meeting point. The pubs are closing 2,000 this year. They're making it impossible to have a pub because they do not want you together. They do not want you to come in together. They want to censor you in every way possible when they want to isolate you in every way possible, whether it be. We saw it all through Covid, but they want all these things now. What that left is a population and who are searching and who are lost. And that when you start realizing that your culture is disappearing. Which two years ago we, we sat down and I got, I'd say you, you, you're an influencer. You have a large platform. We approached 10, 15 influencers and we, I invited them all for a two day thing and said, our culture's growing. Yeah. Our country's in danger now. You will shift. If you shift the culture, you're going to shift the politics. We can't set up a political party. We don't have funding. We don't have hundreds of millions of pounds. Yeah. But if we change the culture, they're going to ch. They're going to, they're going to ride that wave. Yeah. So we sat down and we had a meeting and this is what I'd say conservatives here and I've been. This is what you need to do. Yeah. In the sense of everyone has egos and this group don't like that group and he doesn't like her. And trying to get them all together is very hard. Yeah. So we bought them together and said, I don't want to hear what we don't agree on. Let's just. And we gave everyone a bit of paper. We've done our own workshop. You, you write down the top 10 problems and we're. We got it down to five. So we want to find five things we agree on. That's it. We agree on free speech, we agree on preventing the sexualization of the next generation of children, LGBTQ plus, this, this disease. We, we, we agree on this. We agree against mass immigration, we agree Islam's a problem and we agree that our culture needs defending. This Is it? That's the values we need to agree on. Yeah. If we agree on that, you've got. You've got a million followers. I've got a million followers. You've got 500, 000. You're large on TikTok, you're large on YouTube, you're large on Facebook. Right. Right. If we agree to work together and we. The thing that made it work so well, I said, this isn't my movement. I don't want this to be my movement. This is our movement. We're deciding the values of this movement. And if we decide to work together and we make a video, then we're going to beat them in the BBC. We're going to reach every single demographic in this country. We're reaching because we all have different bases, we all have different platforms, but we need to agree on these values. And what we need to do is we need to make it accessible for people to celebrate free speech and celebrate British identity. And most people, you're not going to get them through politics. Those 20 million people haven't voted. You'll get them for identity. The reason why English Defence League was so successful is we ingrained that identity and it gave us back the sense of community and identity. We felt part of something. So we had this plan. It was a plan for a cultural movement. We set it up, we called it United Kingdom and we held our first event. And in our first event, 30,000 turned up. And when 30,000 turned up, which is a large number for patriots to come to life In London, when 30,000 turned up, we put on gospel singers, we. And you know what it was? It was the day after the. The Paris, no, the Paris Olympics had happened. And I watched the opening ceremony.

[C]

Ugh, I remember that. That was crazy.

[B]

I wasn't that religious. I wasn't religious, actually. I wasn't religious and I didn't think. I didn't think religion needed to play that much of a part. And I watched that and I felt so outraged at what they'd done. The mocking of Christianity, the mocking of Jesus. I thought no one would do this to their faith, to Muslims. It wouldn't happen. Yeah. So on that one, I invited a priest up, up and said, get up here and preach. Yeah, come and preach. And I saw something on that day as we marched and one lad had a sign saying, Christ is King. And as he had it, the place erupted and I thought. And then when the priest got up, I thought some. Something was happening. Fast forward. So we had 30, 000. We had a beautiful day. And what we did with the police, I don't know if you've seen the police are used. A totalitarian state has large tentacles. The media are a weapon, the police are a weapon and we live under the totalitarian state. Ignore democracy in Europe, right? The European Union, all these things. It' about taking your freedom. It's all about enslaving you. It's all about taking your speech. It's not about protecting it. That's why we're relying on you guys here. Yeah, we literally relying on you. We need you. Yeah. So Europe, nature, Britain, nature. So as we had our first event, we then organized our next one and what we've said to the police and I sat down with the police in the meeting and there'd been, there'd been all these rallies since October 7th. October 7th had to happen because the west needed to see the level of influence that Qatari money, Iranian money, is influenced through universities, the biggest funders of your universities. All of this into the next generation. The hatred on the streets, how confident they were to take over every capital C, the confidence to take over the universities. The real anti Semitism and proud anti Semitism that they were screaming. Yeah, people need to see it. And Britain watched it. And at this time, the police had banned me from my capital city. They fabricated a charge, it got proven in court, they held me. It's a long story, I won't go into it because it takes us off this point, but they had me for six months banned from my capital C. The reason why, because if one man could bring people on the streets, they knew it was me, so they didn't want me in the Capital C. My ban runs out, so I'll go for a meeting with the police. I'll say, right, this is. And unfortunately say, you have to negotiate. I said, you know, I can bring men and I'm going to bring men and I can do it on the day that there's a Palestinian rally. Yeah. And we can shut down London. I don't really want to do that. I want to celebrate our culture and identity and I want you to work with us. So if every demonstration for years prior to this, you may have seen it, there was a real clash between British police and British patriots. Patriots, I'm explained. We don't want to clash with you lads. Yeah. We all know there's problems here, so what we're asking is, we're asking you to stay away. We will police ourselves. Yeah. We don't need you forming lines on roads, blocking roads. We'll work with you wherever you want us to do. We just want a successful day that's safe. So we held this event. We've done what we said we'd do. The police done what they said they'd do. Yeah. And that was the first event, and it started a whole new relationship. It started a whole new relationship. They're not our enemy. I know I've been frustrated with the way police have acted against me and all the things that have happened, but the average police officer, I supports us. We support them. Yeah. They are on the front line with their hands tied behind the back. They're not allowed to do their jobs. So the next event, we had a hundred thousand people turned up, and I was very vocal about this new movement. And I was laughing, saying, you're going to lose to the press. Like you don't realize it. Yeah, yeah. You don't matter anymore. Yeah, we. Because what we've done is with the promos for these events, with the videos from these events, we set up the group of 15 influencers and we dropped the videos in. And then we all, all at the same time, blitz the Internet. So then, boom, we're getting the algorithms. We're going everywhere. But at the same time, what we did, which again, America needs. Everyone needs to do this citizen. Mainstream media is the cancer. Citizen journalism is the cure. So we need to bring those citizen journalists together. So at our first event, what I did is we give VIP treatment to tick tockers, youtubers, all the new ones that we're watching. We give them all this VIP treatment. And when we had 880,000 people watching live. Live, thanks to Elon Musk. None of this would happen without Elon Musk. 800,000. 8,000 people live. And I said, each one of you get up here. And we've got them up one by one, said, introduce yourself to the crowd. Who are you? What you do? Oh, I. I just. I live. And they said, I've never been this side of the camera because they're always just live streaming. I live stream demonstrations. I go to speaker's Corner, and we're telling the audiences, follow them, support them. This is the new media. We're fighting them. Yeah, we're gonna fight them. So we went from 30, 30 invites on that first one. One we then went to, most recently, September 13th. 185 invites. We've built a network. Yeah. The next one, we're expecting 350. They're coming from all over the globe.

[C]

That September event was very touching to watch from this side of the pond, certainly because Charlie had just been killed and there was a lot of conversation.

[B]

Did you watch the tribute?

[C]

I did, yeah. And bawled my eyes out the entire time. I'll try not to cry now thinking about it. But it was incredibly moving. And what I saw, the biggest estimate said more than 3 million people were walking through London at your event to reclaim British culture. But even more importantly, what I saw was something bigger than humanity moving through that crowd. I would call it the Holy Spirit. And I think people re centered themselves around the idea of being one nation under God. And that is a very American concept. But I think it really extends to the west at large. You previously weren't religious. Now you're watching all of these events start to happen and bring people together to a level that seems unexplainable. A huge pendulum shift that's happening in the United Kingdom. Do you think religion has a whole lot to do with that?

[B]

It has a massive part to it. There's a. There's a spiritual war as a 2027 of July 2 demonstration. 100,000 people. Trafalgar Square never been filled. We filled it. Christ is King, the whole place. I'm standing there watching it and I could feel it to, to explain. 2015, I went to Poland's Independence Day in Poland, 250000 Poles. I stood at the front and I felt something. And on the video, if you watch, I said I can feel power. There's something I can feel here. Which is why they don't want people coming together. But I could feel it. Yeah, I could feel it. And I explained it afterwards. I said I'm jealous. We don't have this sense of identity in Britain. But I remember standing on the 27th of July. I remember thinking, wow, I can feel it. And then I remember looking at people and seeing all the crosses everywhere and seeing the. And all I can explain is something massive happened happening something. The huge shifting. And then 27th of July, the day after that demonstration, the government are worried. They don't know what to do. This is the biggest event. This is the biggest Governor patriots London's ever seen. Not the biggest event, but the biggest governor patriots on the London's ever seen come together. 28th of July, they arrest him on terrorism charges. They charged me under terrorism Act. Elon Musk stepped in. I received a not guilty police fact that the judge overruled the police and said this is persecution, state persecution. But from that they were trying to stop it. I then end up in an 18 month prison sentence for A documentary that I made, I played it on the 27th of July. I had an order. I made a film which was far greater story than Tommy Robinson because it was about the corruption of the judiciary. I wore covert cameras and I recorded evidence to show that everything they said in court about me, they, they, they ruled against me and bankrupt me for 1.3 million pound. The whole story was a lie. There was a story they give to the public, public and I had the proof that the whole thing was a lie. And everyone, and I call it the unholy alliance, the judiciary, the media, the police, all of them, all these agencies coming together as well as far left organizations, Muslim organizations, to destroy someone. And they destroyed me. But the story I had, which I had, the evidence of which I produced to a judge, I showed him all the recordings. I wore a hidden camera. I went up to a school and I got teachers on camera saying they're paid to lie. And I looked at who paid them and it was the government, Muslim groups. So I got all the records approved all this evidence. I proved everything I said was true, true, but yet they ruled against me. When I showed it to the judge, the judge wrote down every single point I made on covert recording and said, if you ever share this to the public, you'll get a two year prison sentence. So I walked out of court and for two years that hit me up. The public were told I lied it at me up. I was in a terrible place. I was censored, I was de platformed. I'd lost all my. I'd lost everything. My marriage had broke down from all the things you see on this film. They sent people to my house, they targeted my family, they threatened to kill my kids. All this. So I've gone abroad board. I'm sat there and I'm. It's eating me up and eating me up. Elon Musk gives me back my ex account. I come back to the uk, we start this cultural movement and then I've got a hundred thousand people in Trafalgar Square, I've got 800, I've got a million people watching live and I knew I'd get to, I knew they'd send me a jail, but I knew that that documentary is what they've done to Donald Trump. That documentary is what they've done to an exchange. It's what they've done. It's a weaponization of the judiciary to target citizens who are speaking out now. Every single just good. Google this. Look up Morton Messenger, Schmidt, look up Gert Vilders. Look up Marie Le Pen. Look up any political party's leader that has stood against the status quo of the European Union who has tried to talk about immigration. And you will see lawfare. Court case. Court case. Court case. Court case, Yeah. A weapon that you've seen against Salvini. He had five years of court cases. It was now only just now overturned. Now, those court cases, the weapon of lawfare, the process is the punishment, because it exhausts you, it tires you, it breaks you.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It financially destroys you. Yeah. So they're using the court. So I know I had this evidence. So 27th of July, I played the film. I played the film and said, come and get me. Yeah, come and get me. Because if you come and get me, the world's going to watch the film. And if the world watches the film, they know you're corrupt. And then. And then they come and got me, and they sentenced me to an 18 month in prison. I spent seven months on soldier Confinement for playing that film. But. But on the first week of January, I'm 10 weeks into solitary confinement. I ring home, I ring my son. He says, dad, dad. I'm like, what? What? What? He said Elon shared it. Elon's quote. Elon's pinned it, and that was the film. So when I went to court, I. So on that day, I released the film on my social media, because I had social media because Elon gave me it back. If Elon didn't give me back, no one ever sees the film. They tell everyone I lied. I go to jail because he gave me it back. I pinned it. When I got into court, the judge said, remove the film and I'll. I'll drastically reduce this sentence. So I'm not removing that film, that film staying there. If you want to send me a jail, send me a jail. I told the truth. The world will see I told the truth. So he sends me a jail. Then 167 million views, that film, Brick gets bought to. And in that first week in January, because soldier confinement messed me up. Yeah, I've done two years ago. It messed me up, man. But. And it was a risk I was taking at the time. But I remember I've gone through 15 years of this. I've had relentless court cases. I've been in prison, I've been hurt in jail. I've been faced death threats. So I'm in a position where I'm. I'm here anyway, now I've got this weapon. It's like a bomb. That film's like a bomb for Me, I think, boom, go. Let's see. And it took me, it took me here. I'm here now.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I wouldn't have been here without releasing that film. I wouldn't have been here. Elon Musk wouldn't give the support. If Elon Musk didn't buy X. All these things played their part. The millions of people you saw would not have been on the streets if I didn't release that film. The whole public watched that film. So the minute I walked out of jail, I come out of jail in a bad place. I didn't want to, I want to pretend I was all good. But I come out and I walk straight up to the camera as I walked out of prison gates. 13th of September. We're coming. Yeah. And we're, we're reviving. There's gonna, there's a revolution brewing in Britain. And then I'll sit confidently and I'll say, revolution's brewing. Yeah. And I knew the numbers were coming because everywhere I went I get, I, I'm in a unique position where I get my fingers on the pulse because I experience the reaction I receive everywhere I go. So I kept saying in the build up to that demonstration, it's gonna be the biggest event Britain's ever seen now. The largest event fighter. That was 750, 000. We killed it. We killed it.

[C]

But.

[B]

And Charlie Kirk had just been killed. So all the things that you, the discussions you were having, people were trying to have with me, you need to cancel it. Shut up. I listen to what I watched Charlie's videos. Who, who said? And even courage, when you talk about courage, coverage is being scared and still doing it. So we went on, we've done it. We held our demonstration. Elon Musk stepped in, saved me. He saved me in my court cases. I'd be in jail now. I got not guilty on both cases. He stepped in for my last two cases and he stepped in now. He's agreed to pay my legal fees to fight on my next case. I face a 10 year prison sentence. But this relentless campaign of lawfare, it used to work, now it has the adverse effect that they want it to have.

[C]

Yep. It lifts the fire under you even more. And it's that resilience, it lifts the

[B]

fire under the public.

[C]

True. Yeah. It creates a movement. Courage is contagious, as I often like to say. And I think there's far few examples like you out there in the world with that sense of resilience that no matter what they throw at you, you are still able to get up tomorrow and the next day and the next day day. And keep fighting for your family, for your culture, for your identity. I know we have very, very short time left because it's a very busy day here in D.C. for the state of the Union tonight, which I'm so excited about. If you had one last message about what it means to embrace that resilience, especially for those of us who do have a microphone and often are questioning whether we speak up about some of these things because of that fear of being called all the horrible names or getting thrown in prison or maybe even losing your life, life. What would you say to them?

[B]

I'd say, go back and look at what your forefather's done. And when I, I'm quite deep on looking at things and I think really we're scared of being called names. Not even people who say, they say you're a legend. I think I've had a couple of black eyes, I've had a couple of death threats. I'm not getting bullets fired at me. I'm not running onto a beach. Reality. Let's put it into perspective, right? Speak. You've got to speak. And if you don't, your kids are next. If you allow this and if you allow it through what, you're worried about being called a name, even losing your job? I. Okay, right, you're worried about losing your job. And if everyone understood the danger that the west is under, there'd be revolution on the streets tomorrow. But many people are asleep to it. And what we, what we've created is a generation of a cowards and selfishness where they care about themselves and people think, well, I'm all right, I'm all right. Well, this is far bigger than you. Yeah, My ex wife used to say to me, what about our kids? What about. I said, this is far bigger than us, that. Do you not realize what's happening if we lose, if we, if we let this continue. There's a thousand years of Christian history in England. A thousand years. And you're going to give it away over 60 years because you're too scared for a load of barbarians coming from the Middle East? Because you're scared of being called a racist. You're scared of a name, even. What, you're scared of getting a punch in the nose. Just look at your forefathers. Look at the sacrifice given. Free speech is not free. Previous generations sacrificed everything. Blood, sweat, tears, torture. Every single emotion, pain you can think of. Your parents, your grandparents and those generations went through it to protect, preserve hand Down. Prosperous Britain. The what we have, we're custodians of it. Don't lose it.

[C]

Yeah, well, thank you for your sacrifice, Tommy. We are cheering you on every step of the way and I hope I can join you across the pond for the future. I would love to.

[B]

May 16th.

[C]

Good. I'll write it down. I'll come. Provided they approve my visa, of course, which is always.

[B]

Please come because we need, we need, need the world's eyes. We need everyone to see our view beyond. This is, this is May 16th. The next time after this, what we're doing in London, we're going to do in every capital city in Europe.

[C]

Wow. I can't wait to see where that all pans out. Last question. Where can people follow you, support you and make sure that they see your incredible film on X?

[B]

No, I'm not. I'll go straight to jail.

[C]

Oh, I forgot, I forgot. People can't watch anymore. Apologies.

[B]

I'm not allowed to talk about the details. That's why I had to scoot around it, because I'll go straight.

[C]

Other people may be able to tell you guys where you can watch this important content, but people can follow.

[B]

You can watch my work, the documentaries. I'm allowed to to watch [e-mail] I've done a five part series on the rape gangs. Gone in on them, found them, confronted them. There's some. I've exposed the BBC, exposed the far left, your Media Matters. The same group in the UK is called Hope not. Hey. Exposed them, showed how they operate. So I've done some amazing journalism. But you can follow me at T Robinson new era on X and Tommy Robinson online on YouTube. I've got my you. I've got my YouTube channel back.

[C]

Yay. That's huge.

[B]

Yeah. They won't monetize it. They've refused this week. But I've got the channel back two weeks before going out of Jack. That's the ripple. When you vote for Donald Trump, we were gone. Right, that ripple of free speech. So thank you for your votes. Thank you, Donald Trump. Thank you, America.

[C]

Courage is contagious. Go follow him if you haven't already. Before you start the weekend,

[A]

Legal sent this list of everything we're not allowed to do in season two. We're gonna do do all of it.

[C]

We've got games, more celebrity guests and yes, the mailbag is somehow worse.

[A]

If you thought season one was extra, season two, we're doubling down.

[C]

We're not supposed to be doing this.

[A]

Exactly. Ben After Dark, Season 2 streaming on daily Wire Plaza.