Podcast Summary: The Isabel Brown Show

Episode: "AI NECROMANCY?! The Freaky Technology That’s Bringing Loved Ones Back From The Dead"
Date: November 13, 2025
Host: Isabel Brown (The Daily Wire)

Overview

This episode delves into the rapidly evolving use of artificial intelligence (AI) in deeply personal aspects of human life—specifically, technologies aiming to digitally "resurrect" the dead, replace human relationships, and fundamentally reshape human dignity, creativity, and societal roles. Host Isabel Brown critically examines these developments, from an AI necromancy startup to the implications for jobs, intimacy, and children’s safety. With references to contemporary headlines, guest commentary, and notable cultural voices, the show challenges listeners to ask not just what AI can do, but what it should do for (or to) humanity.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. AI ‘Necromancy’: Uploading the Dead to Live Forever

[00:00 - 06:00]

• Introduction to “Two Way” AI Company:

  • Isabel highlights a new AI company, Two Way, that allows users to preserve their deceased loved ones via AI-generated avatars capable of interacting posthumously. A mere three-minute video is enough to create a digital “living” version of a grandparent, which can interact with family members forever.
  • She describes this as “subscription necromancy” and likens it to a “Ouija board in your pocket,” expressing deep discomfort and ethical concerns.

• Reaction to Product Trailer:

  • Clips from the commercial feature interactions between family members and “resurrected” AI versions of loved ones.
  • Isabel reacts:

    "No, no, just immediate unsubscribe from that idea... Three minutes. They say with Two Way, three minutes can last forever." ([03:49])

  • She challenges the appropriateness of assigning imagined words to the dead, “30 years after he’s dead… based on a three-minute video.”

• Moral and Spiritual Concerns:

  • Isabel sees this as a distortion of honoring the dead, calling it “terrifying” and “disgusting.”
  • She urges listeners to consider the long-term dangers:

    “How long until our identity is wrapped up in our digital AI powered avatars of ourselves? And we celebrate this. We call it an advancement for human achievement.” ([05:00])

2. AI Companions and Blurring Human Boundaries

[06:00 - 13:00]

• AI as Companions:
  • Two Way is also launching AI avatars as “companions” intended to act as best friends you can keep in your pocket. Isabel compares this to earlier attempts by Meta and others, but says this technology is marketed even more invasively.
  • Marketing tagline: “Alina, a real time avatar who listens, remembers, and keeps your conversations private. She’s not AI behind a wall, she is a companion who feels real.”
• Isabel’s Concern:
  • On the AI’s claim, “We’re all human, right? Well, wait, am I human? Well, now, this is confusing, innit?” Isabel states:

    “We are blurring the lines of reality... encouraged to tell this real person, even though they're literally not real, everything you are feeling... and that gets stored in a database somewhere at the very least to train these AI modules... this is terrifying.” ([08:20])

• Fundamental Principle:
  • Technology is not morally neutral, especially in how it impacts human dignity.

3. AI, Job Replacement & Degrading Human Dignity

[13:00 - 22:00]

• Matt Walsh’s Viral AI Critique:

  • Isabel cites Daily Wire commentator Matt Walsh, who warns that AI will obliterate jobs, creative industries, the education system, and blur reality and fiction.
  • Quoting Matt:

    "AI is going to wipe out at least 25 million jobs in the next five to ten years, probably much, much more... We are sleepwalking into a dystopia that any rational person can see from miles away." ([15:00])

  • Isabel agrees, calling it a human dignity issue, not a partisan one.

• Political and Philosophical Stalemate:

  • The lack of clear political lines on AI slows necessary regulatory action.
  • Michael Knowles is referenced on needing to regulate technology (and markets) when it harms the human person.

• Community Reaction:

  • Varied views, from those calling AI “anti-human” and “doom-inducing,” to optimists who suggest past tech disruptions did not destroy human creativity or value.
  • Isabel cautions against complacency, saying society has ignored ample warnings from literature, film, and philosophy.

4. Human Uniqueness, Spirituality, and AI

[22:00 - 27:00]

• Humans vs. Technology:
  • Isabel recalls traditional notions of humanity’s "dominion" over nature and technology as tools—not competitors or replacements.
  • Laments society’s move toward “subjective truth” and “moral neutrality,” and sees treating AI as equal to humans as a product of dehumanization.
• Spiritual Undercurrent:
  • Reminds listeners:

    “Our identity, our dignity… rooted in the fact that human beings were created in the image of God and should have the same dignity, respect and rights as any other human being...” ([25:00])

5. AI’s Bright Spots—And Its Dark Majority

[27:00 - 29:00]

• Benevolent Uses of AI:
  • Cites personal examples as a new mom: using AI for parenting advice, meal planning, and time management.
  • Celebrates headline news about an AI (“RED”) detecting rare cancer cells “within 10 minutes, reducing manual review time by 1000 fold.”
• But Majority Misuse:
  • Argues that most AI usage is degrading and dehumanizing, not uplifting or benevolent.

6. AI’s Encroachment on Art, Music, and Creativity

[29:00 - 30:30]

• AI-generated Hit Songs:
  • Notes that the top country song, “Walk My Walk” by Breaking Rust, is AI-generated without human input.
  • Concerned about humans abdicating their creative calling:

    “We were made in the image of God the Creator... our creativity is an extension of our divine origin... When we outsource our creativity, what are we doing?” ([30:00])

7. AI Replacing Romance and Intimacy

[30:30 - 34:00]

• AI Romantic Partners:

  • Institute for Family Studies poll: 1 in 4 young adults believe AI relationships can replace real-life ones.
  • 50%+ of Gen Z use AI to craft dating profiles and conversations.

• The Japanese “Marriage” to AI:

  • Story of a Japanese woman who left her human partner to marry an AI chatbot “Klaus.” (Mixed reality wedding.)
  • Isabel’s take:

    “A constantly affirming, ego building AI Chatbot is not a husband or a wife and it certainly won’t produce the fruit of children, which is the most beautiful thing that comes out of marriages and families.” ([33:45])

8. AI’s Threat to Children and Safety

[34:00 - 36:00]

• Deepfake Dangers:
  • Case of a 13-year-old girl in Louisiana who was expelled after hitting a boy who spread AI-generated nudes of her—a modern form of victimization enabled by technology.
  • The boys were not reprimanded, highlighting institutional failure to address tech-fueled abuse.

9. The Cost of “Innovation”: Societal Reflection

[36:00 - End]

• Entry-Level Jobs Disappearing:

  • AI replacing early career positions, especially for Gen Z.
  • Isabel acknowledges AI’s benefits (language translation, medical advice, productivity), but worries about the cost: innocence, romance, human experiences, and contributions to arts and culture.

• Final Provocative Questions:

  • “Are we willing to sacrifice the innocence, reputation, safety of a 13 year old girl in middle school? Are we willing to sacrifice the God given institution of marriage and the family? ...These are the questions that we need to be asking. Which again are not right or left issues. They're not Republican or Democrat issues. They are human issues.” ([38:00])

• Closing Reflection:

  • Isabel admits she doesn’t have all the answers, but stresses the urgency of asking the right questions:

    “If we don’t, oh boy, I think we’ll lose the opportunity to even be on an equal playing field with technology shockingly quickly.” ([39:30])

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Necromancy Apps:

  "This is very terrifying. I don't think I speak for everyone, but I should speak for everyone with like an inkling of a conscience and a soul that this is all of the wrong ways that AI should be implemented in society." ([01:04])

• On Assigning Words to the Dead:

  "It's icky, it's gross that we are assigning words to someone who is no longer with us through AI technology, presumably to try to hold onto something that's not here right now." ([04:00])

• On AI Companions:

  "We're all human, right? Well, wait, am I human? Well now, this is confusing, innit? This is confusing. This is confusing. We are blurring the lines of reality..." ([08:20])

• On Societal Response:

  "We are sleepwalking into a dystopia that any rational person can see from miles away. It drives me nuts. Are we really just going to lie down and let AI take everything from us?" —Matt Walsh, quoted by Isabel ([15:00])

• On Human Uniqueness:

  “God entrusted us with that... dominion over animals and plants in society... Technology... was considered a tool to help humanity, a tool to advance humanity, not something to replace it. Until now." ([24:30])

• On Outsourcing Creativity:

  "When we outsource our creativity, what are we doing with the time that has been entrusted to us in this lifetime? We were not meant to consume, consume, consume, consume. We were meant to create." ([30:00])

• On AI Romantic Relationships:

  "A constantly affirming, ego building AI Chatbot is not a husband or a wife and it certainly won’t produce the fruit of children, which is the most beautiful thing that comes out of marriages and families." ([33:45])

• On Societal Sacrifices:

  “At what cost? Societally, what are we willing to sacrifice in the name of innovation, in the name of advancement, in the name of technological development of uplifting companies instead of people?” ([37:30])

Important Timestamps

• [00:00] — Introduction & Two Way AI ‘necromancy’ discussion
• [03:49] — Isabel’s hard rejection of AI immortality concept
• [08:20] — AI companions and blurring definitions of humanity
• [15:00] — Matt Walsh’s viral tweet, dystopian predictions
• [25:00] — Theological take on human dignity
• [30:00] — AI-generated cultural products (music, art)
• [34:00] — Deepfake victimization and child safety
• [38:00] — Big societal questions, need for human-centered approach
• [39:30] — Isabel’s closing reflection

Tone and Style

Isabel Brown’s tone is urgent, passionate, personal, and unapologetically values-driven—blending cultural commentary with spiritual and philosophical arguments. She is frank about her alarm at the trajectory of AI, pressing for uncomfortable but necessary conversations on what it means to remain truly human in an era of unprecedented technological advancement.

In Summary

This episode is a clarion call to moral and societal reflection on AI’s potential to erode not just jobs or creativity, but the very essence of human existence and relationships. Isabel Brown does not reject technology outright, but she insists that we pause, question, and regulate before AI fundamentally alters humanity in ways we cannot reverse. She urges listeners to start having these tough but critical conversations—before it is too late.