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Isabelle
Of all the things I expected Representative Alexandria Ocasio Cortez to break the Internet over freezing her eggs was not one of them. But I have a lot of thoughts. We need to unpack today. In the last couple of days, AOC has created a massive Internet wide debate about freezing your eggs as a 36 year old woman. Particularly when you factor in all of the other factors that contribute to her situation. Specifically namely that she's been together with her now fiance for 15, 15 years. But at 36, she says that she's still not quite ready to have children, that her career and her lifestyle are just far too demanding for it, and is deciding to publicly share her journey of freezing her eggs as she gets closer to 40 years old. Watch this.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
Don't be weird about this. Even though I know all of you will be. All right, everyone, Deco and I. Day one of freezing my eggs. I'm diving into the process and now I've got. Let's see all of this medicine here. I'm going to inject this first, but I got a pro tip from a friend because this injection kind of stings. It kind of burns a little bit. So a friend of mine told me that if you make the first injection first and let it sit while you're making, while you're doing everything else, maybe it burns a little less, I don't know. But obviously I'm not doing this on live right now. Imagine I didn't want to distract myself too much by being on live because I'm injecting myself with things. Maybe later, maybe if I become a pro at this, I'll do that. Maybe I should start an ASMR egg freezing channel. I think they banned those on YouTube. So this is a powder. So I'm basically dissolving this powder. All right, Don't be weird about this, even though I know all of you will be okay. That wasn't so bad.
Isabelle
Don't be weird about this, even though I know you probably all will be. An interesting anecdote to include in that. And let me just first say I am all for massive transparency in the journey of motherhood. From conception all the way through every crazy moment after our babies are born. I think a lot more transparency has been a beautiful reason to encourage the beauty of families for this next generation. But there's something about this video that feels wildly performative to me, and I can't be the only person having that immediate reaction. It's honestly taking me back to when everyone was getting their shots for Covid on live streams and videoed and broadcast to the entire world with a big old thumbs up and a mask across their face, even though they probably took that mask off like four seconds later and probably didn't follow all of the social distancing and stay at home rules themselves, their own lives. But you had to get the picture out there to let everyone know that you were following the science at the time. Freezing one's eggs is a deeply, deeply, deeply personal decision. And I know many people who have gone through the process, mostly for medical reasons, being diagnosed with cancer or another terminal illness that may require you to go through treatment that could destroy your remaining eggs in the process very early in life. But that's not the case here for Representative Alexandria Ocasio Cortez. To my understanding, she's not diagnosed with a terminal illness. She doesn't have an immediate concern related to all of her remaining eggs being depleted, but at 36, should be thinking about fertility if having children is a goal that she has later in her life. In this video, before she injected herself, she actually said, and I quote, this is just not something that men deal with. Men run for office, or frankly, they interview for jobs. And people don't think in the back of their mind, okay, this guy's running for office. How old is he? Oh, well, when is he going to want to start a family? This is a choice I am making to feel more in control of my life. Presumably because she still wants to run for higher office in the future beyond her current seat in Congress, or has more career ambitions that are going to be incredibly demanding of her time, which sure is not something that men typically think about because men don't have the same biological considerations that women do. When we are thinking about when the best time to start a family may be and how that interferes with our career ambitions or may distract from them in a different way, but take us on a more beautiful journey of having kids. Men can father children until the day that they die, but women need to be thinking more strategically about, if a family is a part of our lifelong dreams, how we can start it now before it's too late for us, when we are 36 to 40 years old. On the note of people wanting to have more babies, it's not just enough for us to promote the next generation of families to be created in the first place. We have to do everything we can to save vulnerable babies from being killed today by the radically violent and dangerous abortion industry. Right now in America, there is a young woman sitting somewhere facing an unexpected pregnancy. She's scared, she's alone, and she is facing an overwhelming propaganda push telling her that she's not smart, strong or capable enough to bring her baby into the world. That's exactly where our friends at Live Action come into the picture, bringing real answers, hope and truth to a woman in this vulnerable position. We often spend so much time talking about the policies and laws of the pro life movement, which is so, so important. But we also can't forget to reach people where they are wrestling with this idea to begin with in their hearts and minds. And that's exactly what Live Action does with their pro life content every day online. About one in five women who see a Live Action video ultimately end up changing their mind about abortion, which is crazy. One video, one conversation, one moment of truth can stop save someone's life and change the hearts of an entire generation in the process. And we want to help them in their journey as much as possible. Maybe you skip buying coffee out tomorrow, maybe you don't go out for dinner as a family this week, but maybe you put some of that financial support towards Live Action in their mission to save the lives of the next generation. If you want to be a part of our help, text Isabelle to 70723 or visit liveaction.org donate/isabelle I would love to see how much money we can raise in the months of August and September for them, especially as we get into the holiday season later this year. So, so help us out. Text Isabelle to 70723 so as we start to unravel and unpack this. I have a lot of questions. First and foremost, is it not possible for members of Congress who are regularly running for office every two years to keep their seat, to also experience pregnancy, childbirth and motherhood in the process of being a member of Congress? Because there are several across the aisle, by the way, making that happen right now for their family, including my friend Kat Kamek and a representative from my home state of Colorado, Brittany Petterson, both of whom were pregnant and gave birth to their babies in office, now showing up with their babies on the floor of the US House of Representatives. Quite often controversial, but possible. Not to mention arguably my friend Caroline Levitt, White House Press Secretary, has a significantly more demanding job when it comes to international travel, regularly having last minute scheduling conflicts pop up, extremely long days at the office, and essentially a 24 hour work cycle. And yet somehow she has managed to have two babies in two years and is thriving in both her career and her personal life, while a member of Congress who regularly gets recess weeks has an unbelievably flexible schedule and an entire staff to support them, is somehow in a too demanding job to have a baby. But beyond all of that, most women who are 36 years old who choose to freeze their eggs are single. They are not currently married. They might not be able logistically to have a child in the next immediate few years of their life because they don't have a partner to share that journ with. But Alexandria Ocasio Cortez has been together with her now fiance for 15 years. 15 years. And they've been engaged for what, two? At least. I don't understand, and maybe this is just my youthful ignorance here, so correct me if I'm wrong, why it continues to be attractive to stay with a man who won't marry you after 15 years. And if children are hugely important to you, why you are still putting it off? I mean, there's no logistical reason whatsoever. I'm sure all the AOC stans are going to come at me in my comment section for this video claiming that she's just trying to normalize having children, which is a good thing. We should be normalizing this for women at every stage of their life. But the truth is, even if AOC got pregnant naturally the fun old fashioned way with her fiance tomorrow, we would still classify that pregnancy as a geriatric pregnancy. Not as a slur against her as an old person because she's not old, but because medically there are many other factors to consider and very, very important distinctions between a pregnancy in your late 30s and into your 40s than a pregnancy in your 20s and early 30s. What AOC is doing when she's talking about normalizing the process of freezing your eggs into your 40s. To experience pregnancy that late in your life is to normalize the reality of a substantially higher miscarriage rate. If you are pregnant over the age of 45, your likelihood of having a miscarriage is five times higher than if pregnant 20 years earlier. At 25, it's normalizing the harrowing tragedy of stillbirths, which are twice as high for 40 year old pregnant women than 20 year old pregnant women. Normalizing the statistical likelihood that your baby will be diagnosed with a disability like down syndrome, which doesn't change your humanity by any sense, but it is 12 and a half times more likely for women pregnant in their 40s than women pregnant in their 20s. And we're even normalizing a buzzword that the pro abortion community loves to scream from the rooftops. Maternal mortality, which is nearly five times higher for women who are pregnant in their 40s than women who are pregnant in their 20s. In the fight to revive the American family, there is such a fascinating conversation about the role of prayer in the process too. And for me, seeing aoc, of all people talk about having a baby someday is frankly an answered prayer. But on the note of prayer, I am so excited for this year's annual St. Michael's Lent Challenge with Hallow beginning on August 12th, and I want you guys to join me in the process. Incredible voices like Gwen Stefani, Bishop Baron, Jim Caviezel, Chris Stefanik, and so many be leading us in prayer through a 40 day journey covering confessions by St. Augustine the goat. His story reminds us that no one is beyond God's grace and that real transformation only starts to begin when we surrender our struggles to Him. The challenge begins August 12, and if you've been looking for a great way to incorporate prayer into your daily life, 40 days is a perfect way to get that routine started. And it'll all wrap up on the Feast of St. Michael on September 29th. You guys can download Hallow today and use code Isabelle for three months free to join the St. Michael challenge. I love that we are normalizing the family, but there's something incredibly odd about society's push to normalize. Waiting as long as humanly possible to have kids well into your 40s to prioritize other things for your immediate gratification now, because that comes with a bill of goods that I don't know that we're really prepared to Talk about with extra health considerations, risk of death and inability to have kids in the first place. And it's not just aoc. The media has been doing this with Anne Hathaway the last several weeks as well, who beautiful in her pregnancy, by the way. I wouldn't necessarily go so far as to say like a mom icon, as she's often defended abortion in very shocking ways with her public platform, but countless social media posts, headlines, talking heads on the Internet talking about how incredible and beautiful it is to be pregnant in your 40s. And it can be, don't get me wrong, but women do have a substantially different biological consideration than men do, with an extremely limited window of fertility that we are doing no one any favors for pretending it doesn't exist. The other part to this that's really interesting to consider is okay, if it really is all performative and she doesn't actually intend on having children, which many people are speculating on the Internet, why does AOC feel the need to publicly document and share her journey of egg freezing on social media? Could it be that the tide is turning substantially in America with young female voters about the role of family as a priority going into the future of American culture and politics? Everyone is all doom and gloom today about how we have a shocking record number of young women who do not want to have kids. And yes, that is true. For the first time ever in world history, we are projected to potentially see the majority of women under the age of 40 not have children, largely because of the normalization of waiting as long as humanly possible. But when you start looking at the difference between millennial and Gen Z women, something really fascinating starts to unfold. I could tell you a hundred different surveys and research polls showing that millennial women overwhelmingly do not want to have kids, and that largely our huge cliff of fertility rates in America that dropped off the edge into oblivion in the last few years, really all across the Western world, not just the United States, is because of the decision from millennial women to not have children. But as Gen Z, who mostly is still in their teenage and early 20 years, is starting to come into adulthood, there is a a seismic shift happening in American culture trending toward the family. In January of this year, the American Society for Reproductive Medicine did a survey specifically for Gen z women. Almost 70% of Gen Z surveyed said they have concerns about their future fertility. Given the world that we live in today and the massive spike of unexplained infertility that so many people are being diagnosed with now, almost 60% said they were not adequately informed about their reproductive health and wanted to be more proactive about that and asking women 18 to 27 years old in the US entirely gen Zers 74% of them said they very much want to have children in their life someday. A clear majority of American Gen Z women today think having a family should be a top priority in their life and want to have kids. Which tells me something really interesting about the political messaging that's going to start being geared towards young women in the future. And maybe why AOC feels the need to so publicly document her egg freezing journey. In the last couple of years you've seen virtually all the messaging geared toward young female voters in America be abortion, abortion, abortion, abortion. My body, my choice. No uterus, no opinion. If you don't vote for a rabidly pro planned parenthood pro abortion candidate, then you're not even a real woman. Even though I thought we couldn't define that. Anyway, now you're starting to see one of, if not the most progressive politicians in America who has been wildly outspoken in favor of the abortion industry, not exactly a family icon herself, unmarried, although partnered with her fiance for many, many, many years, start to change her messaging as she seeks higher office, whether she actually intends to have children or not. To present more pro family could it be that the more relatable thing to do today with young people so desperately wanting to have families of our own is to bring back the Norman Rockwell white picket fence, single family home, American family aesthetic again? If AOC feels the need to be posting it all over social media, that tells me everything I need to know. If you are a young woman under 45 watching this video, I'm dying to know. If you don't already have kids, do you want some? And if you do have kids, are you intending on having more? I think we are on the cliff of a massive baby boom in America that may even cross political lines, but I guess aoc, of all people could be leading the charge. In the meantime, let us know in the comments.
Host: Isabel Brown (The Daily Wire)
Date: August 11, 2026
In this episode, Isabel Brown dives into the controversy surrounding Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) publicly sharing her egg-freezing journey at age 36. Isabel explores the broader cultural and political implications: Should postponing motherhood and “normalizing” egg freezing be seen as empowering, or is it masking significant realities about women’s fertility and family life? The discussion expands to question public portrayals of motherhood, generational shifts in attitudes toward family, and the evolving messaging to young women in America.
AOC: “Don’t be weird about this. Even though I know all of you will be.” (01:41)
“There’s something about this video that feels wildly performative to me…” (03:46)
AOC (paraphrased): “Men run for office… people don’t think in the back of their mind, okay, this guy’s running for office. How old is he? When is he going to want to start a family? This is a choice I am making to feel more in control of my life.” (Paraphrased by Isabel, 05:15)
“What AOC is doing… is to normalize the reality of a substantially higher miscarriage rate.” (09:56)
“If AOC feels the need to be posting it all over social media, that tells me everything I need to know.” (14:59)
On transparency and performance:
“There’s something about this video that feels wildly performative to me, and I can’t be the only person having that immediate reaction.”
— Isabel Brown (03:46)
On biology and political double standards:
“Men can father children until the day that they die, but women need to be thinking more strategically…”
— Isabel Brown (05:49)
On normalization and risks:
“It’s not just enough for us to promote the next generation of families… we have to save vulnerable babies from being killed today by the radically violent and dangerous abortion industry.”
— Isabel Brown (06:30)
“We are doing no one any favors by pretending [biological limits] don’t exist.”
— Isabel Brown (12:55)
On changing generational priorities:
“A clear majority of American Gen Z women today think having a family should be a top priority in their life and want to have kids.”
— Isabel Brown (17:45)
The episode mixes cultural critique, statistics, and personal opinion in Isabel’s characteristically forthright style. She challenges the prevailing narrative that delaying motherhood is an unmitigated good and suggests there are under-discussed medical and cultural downsides. Her central question—are we “normalizing” a risky path for women, or responding to real challenges women face?—frames a broader look at generational and political fractures on family, gender, and aspiration.
Isabel sees the renewed focus on family—by even progressive icons like AOC—not as accidental, but as a signpost of shifting priorities among younger women. Whether for show or substance, these conversations may signal a coming “baby boom” and a recalibration of what it means to be a modern American woman.