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"Christian Nationalism" Is The Left's New Attack - Here's Why You Shouldn't Care

The Isabel Brown Show

Mon Oct 27 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Christian Nationalism" Is The Left's New Attack – Here's Why You Shouldn't Care

The Isabel Brown Show | The Daily Wire
Date: October 27, 2025

Main Theme & Purpose

In this episode, Isabel Brown confronts the rising rhetoric around "Christian nationalism," arguing that the term is being weaponized by the political left to shame and silence Christians who openly incorporate their faith into public life. She unpacks the meaning of "Christian nationalism," challenges misleading narratives, and encourages listeners to be unapologetically Christian—especially in the context of America’s current sociopolitical climate and a broader cultural battle over faith, family, and freedom.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Viral Rhetoric on "Christian Nationalism" (00:50–07:00)

Opening Context: Isabel discusses an Instagram video featuring James Croft, a self-described atheist lead chaplain from Sussex University, who argues that “Christian nationalism” is a primary threat to Western freedom.
Croft's Critique:
- Claims the “aggressively Christian” American administration is seeking to remake the country as explicitly Christian.
- Frames Christian influence on policy—especially on abortion and marriage—as regressive and dangerous.
- Memorable quote from Croft:
  
  "One of the greatest threats to freedom and liberal society is Christian nationalism. And Christian nationalism is Christian. It's right there in the name." (02:59–03:45)
Isabel’s Reaction:
- Points out the irony of labeling current U.S. leadership as “aggressively Christian,” when many Christians feel faith is not publicly upheld enough.
- Notes that using personal and religious values to inform civic life is historic and central to the American project.
- Isabel on freedom and faith:
  
  "You simply cannot have true freedom in a society devoid of God. ... Freedom by its very definition is born out of God's love for us." (04:40)

2. Redefining "Christian Nationalism" and the True Source of Freedom (07:00–13:00)

Misconceptions Clarified:
- Isabel asserts that the term "Christian nationalism" has been distorted by left-wing media to incite fear, while at its heart, it simply means letting faith guide public engagement.
Freedom as Divine Gift:
- Contrasts biblical freedom with the “freedom” presented by progressivism, characterizing secular alternatives as pathways to authoritarianism.
Persecution of Christians:
- Cites increased scrutiny of Christians attending traditional Latin Mass and broader attempts to limit church engagement during the Biden administration.
- Memorable moment:
  
  "These are the same people who truly want a communistic, authoritarian, socialist society… but then turn around and attack you—the people living in true freedom—as a threat to freedom everywhere." (07:40)

3. The Current Christian Revival and Rejecting Apologetics for Faith (13:00–16:00)

Cultural Moment:
- Observes a “spiritual revival” among young Americans, despite attacks and tragedies (notably mentioning the assassination of Charlie Kirk).
- Emphasizes the need for Christians to be bold and unapologetic about their faith, regardless of backlash or negative labels.
Isabel’s Call to Action:
- Prioritizes Christian identity over national origin, calling for bold, public embodiment of the faith.

4. The "Separation of Church and State" Myth (18:00–23:00)

Historical Context:
- References a quote from Jerry Falwell Sr.:
  
  "The idea that religion and politics don't mix was invented by the devil to keep Christians from running their own country." (21:00)
- Argues that America’s founding was deeply rooted in faith, and that true separation of church and state was meant to prevent government interference in religious practice—not the other way around.
Warning About Societal Regression:
- Critiques attempts to remove God from public life as undermining the societal health and unity.

5. Reviving the American Family: Speech at Liberty University (24:00–40:00)

Highlights from Isabel’s Speech at the Freedom Uncensored Event:
- Compares historical figures (Mary, the Apostles, the Founders) who said “yes” to their calling, emphasizing the power of ordinary people stepping up courageously.
- On Charlie Kirk’s Legacy:
  - Praises Kirk for sparking a wave of youth activism and for preaching the importance of family.
  "The number one message he had for young people was to fall in love courageously. To get married younger than you think you possibly can, to have more kids than you could ever possibly afford." (34:32)
- Identifies a cultural campaign—by both left-wing feminists and “red pill” male influencers—against marriage and family.
- Highlights alarming narratives, e.g. “parenting is dangerous to your health” from a U.S. surgeon general, and commercial surrogacy/birth robotics as symptoms of a rootless culture.
- Stresses the family’s role as the bedrock of society and challenges listeners to seek purpose beyond self-indulgence.

6. Practical Applications: How to Fight the Culture War (40:00–44:00)

Ways to Reclaim and Rebuild:
- Delete dating apps; pursue real relationships and marriage.
- Quit hormonal birth control, pursue natural health, and be open to larger families.
- Make countercultural food, faith, and media consumption choices.
- Courageously speak the truth online and in-person, particularly about faith.
- Most importantly: Go to church, and make faith a visible, daily priority.
On Legacy:
- Credits Charlie Kirk for inspiring families and building lasting change through “quiet, simple acts of courage.”

7. Final Rallying Cry: Everyone is Needed (44:00–46:00)

Challenge to Listeners:
- Isabel exhorts listeners to pray, ask God how they can be bolder, and never apologize for manifesting their faith—no matter the slanders (“Christian nationalist” included) or repercussions.
- Closing call:
  
  "Promise me this, when you stop watching this episode today, I want you to hit your knees… and ask God, what can I do today to be bolder, to be louder, to pick up that microphone in my own sphere of influence and to never again apologize for sharing the love of God with the world, calling Christian nationalist labels and all of that be damned." (45:15)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

James Croft on Christian Nationalism:

"One of the greatest threats to freedom and liberal society is Christian nationalism." (02:59)
Isabel Brown on Faith and Freedom:

"Freedom by its very definition is born out of God's love for us… you simply cannot have true freedom in a society devoid of God." (04:40)
Jerry Falwell Sr. Quoted by Isabel:

"The idea that religion and politics don't mix was invented by the devil to keep Christians from running their own country." (21:00)
Isabel on Charlie Kirk’s Advice to Youth:

"Fall in love courageously. Get married younger than you think you possibly can, have more kids than you could ever possibly afford." (34:32)
Isabel’s Final Challenge:

"Promise me this… ask God, what can I do today to be bolder… to never again apologize for sharing the love of God with the world, calling Christian nationalist labels and all of that be damned." (45:15)

Key Timestamps

00:50 — Isabel introduces James Croft’s viral video and the attack against “Christian nationalism”
02:59–03:45 — Croft explains why he fears Christian influence in public life
04:40 — Isabel argues freedom derives from God, not the state
13:00–16:00 — Discussion on the necessity of unapologetic public faith
21:00 — Falwell Sr. quote on the church, state, and political activism
24:00–40:00 — Isabel’s speech at Liberty University (history, family, faith)
34:32 — Remembrance of Charlie Kirk’s core message to young people
40:00–44:00 — Specific practical advice for changing culture
45:15 — Isabel’s rousing final challenge to listeners

Tone & Style

Isabel’s tone is passionate, candid, and deeply personal. She blends storytelling, cultural critique, and call-to-action rhetoric, using humor and relatable anecdotes—particularly about her personal journey and the legacy of Charlie Kirk—to inspire Christian courage. She seamlessly integrates spiritual conviction with practical advice, aiming to embolden young Christians to reclaim boldness in an era of mounting societal hostility.

This summary delivers a rich, detailed account of the episode, highlighting its central arguments and capturing the essence of Isabel Brown’s message for both regular listeners and newcomers.

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Transcript

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This new administration in the states is aggressively Christian. It's filled with Christian nationalists who quite openly say they want to make Americ Christian country again. And civil society is collapsing. They're rapidly losing speech freedoms. They're looking to get rid of things like same sex marriage. They're already starting the process. I would not be married anymore. Potentially, this has profound effects on people's ability to live freely in society. They've already got rid of abortion. My state, where I lived was the first state to fully ban abortion after they overturned Roe versus Wade. And that has had terrible effects for women's health and freedom in that state. And it was exclusively Christians advocating for that regressive policy. So if we look at what's happening now, I think one of the greatest threats to freedom and liberal society is Christian nationalism. And Christian nationalism is Christian. It's right there in the name.

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Hmm. So let's recap that for a second. Aggressively Christian is the words that he used for the people leading our country today. I think most Christians would argue up to this point, our leadership hasn't necessarily been forthcoming with their faith enough. But aggressively Christian is how he categorizes the Trump administration. Everyone in Congress, the people in the Supreme Court, et cetera, they quite openly say, according to James Croft, that they want to make America a Christian country again. So I guess points for us for admitting that we actually were a Christian nation at some. Some point in American history. But because of this, bringing our faith publicly into the public square and being open and honest about it, and using our most deeply held religious values to impact our decisions. This guy claims that civil society itself is collapsing. The two main reasons that he provides some justification for that are a, that free speech freedoms, speech freedoms in general are being rabidly lost from society, and that Christians are exclusively. No one else is advocating for conservative values. But Christians are exclusively contributing to regressive policies like banning abortion, which in his worldview has had terrible effects for women's health and for freedom. You literally can't even begin to make this stuff up. And I could spend eight to nine hours explaining to you everything that is so profoundly wrong about what this man had to say. But I find it fascinating that he ends this little rant by saying this. One of the greatest threats to freedom, one of the greatest threats to freedom across the world and to liberal society is Christian nationalism. That term in and of itself has gotten a really interesting warped definition over the past couple of years. And I think it's important for us to spend a few minutes on the show today unpacking it. Because Christian nationalism is probably not what you've heard. It's not what's being talked about on MSNBC or CNN or all of the major left wing new podcasts that are popping up in response to this conservative explosion of media and Christian explosion of media in the last few years. Christian nationalism is by all real definitions of the word letting your deepest held values, your most personal relationship with God, the most important thing about you inform how you are supposed to engage with your country. That's it. And that's supposedly a threat to freedom everywhere. But freedom itself is not a man made construct. Freedom is. It has to be at its very core an idea from God. It is God's design for humanity out of love for us. You simply cannot have true freedom in a society devoid of God. And we have seen that play out through every chapter of human history. I mean, the truth is if we don't have God in society, we would all be living in authoritarian, insane, repressive dictatorships. We do not do well in society with power without first submitting ourselves to God. But freedom by its very definition is born out of God's love for us, that he did not create us to just be slaves, that obeyed his every command. He loves us enough to give us the choice to follow him, to give us the choice to repent from sin and turn and run in the other direction, to give us the choice to become saints and instead of sinners in this lifetime. And ironically, this concept of our freedom being under threat because of Christian values is being spewed by people who generally. These same people who generally want to destroy true freedom in society in the name of progressivism. These people who want to lock you up for misinformation when you disagree with the government's approved talking points on social media as we're seeing in the UK right now. These people who want to limit your ability to freely talk about your faith in the public square and want you to be afraid of going to church on Sunday mornings, as we saw here in the United States in the past several years with the Biden administration tracking, I don't know, Catholics going to Catholic Mass on Sunday as radically violent domestic terrorists, not antifa, but Catholics going to the tlm, the traditional Latin Mass on Sunday mornings. These are the same people who truly want a communistic, authoritarian, socialist society and they openly advocate for it, but then turn around and attack you. The people living in true freedom. The people who understand freedom has to come from God as a threat to freedom everywhere. It's the same playbook we see play out from the left over and over and over again, that pretty much everything they accuse anyone who's not on the authoritarian left of they probably are doing themselves. But this specific language about Christianity being on the receiving end of that target is getting louder and louder and louder and louder in the past six weeks, especially since Charlie Kirk was killed. And we're watching a organic, beautiful spiritual revival of Christianity led by young people from every single corner of the globe, but especially here in the United States of America. Like all of you, I think all of the polite, demure people pleasing to appease these rabidly anti Christian appetites from people all left my body on September 10, 2025 at 12:23pm and I'm not saying that to tell you to be a jerk about being a Christian. Don't mishear me by saying that. But I do think the culture we're living in today demands that we be unapologetic about our faith. We have to be bold in proclaiming Christianity to the world. We have to live all in body, mind and spirit for Christ. Because ultimately nothing else matters. Nothing. I pray that we never do. But even if we lose a country to fight for tomorrow, we still have to fight for our faith. We will always, always have our faith. It is the only thing that could never be taken away from us. And it is far past time that we start acting like our national identity and our country of origin is is more important, is the most important thing about us, that it's specifically more important than our Christian identity in God. Because nothing could ever rank higher than who we are as sons and daughters of the Creator of the Universe and as followers of Jesus Christ himself. And we need to stop apologizing for it. Back to the episode in just a second. But first, want to give a huge shout out to our friends at Express vpn. It is so important for you guys to start using a VPN if you aren't already. Going online without it is like checking your bag at the airport without a lock. Who knows how many strangers could be rifling through your private belongings? 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It is gorgeous and I'm so excited to be bringing you along for part of this conversation because this living unashamed for Christ, living boldly for the truth of God and not being afraid of being labeled by people who hate you and hate God and want to erase him from society as Christian nationalist and the backlash that comes from that is exactly what we are talking about here at Freedom Uncensored 2025. To see this event grow so substantially and bring in so many other speakers from last year to this year is such a privilege and I am deeply humbled that I was asked to speak both years in a row. Last year I was joined by Nick F. Freitas and Ali Beth Stuckey and Seth Dillon and Michael Knowles was here and he gave an amazing speech. But this year it is over a full two day event and we have seen quite an amazing lineup of people be so unashamed in proclaiming the Gospel to people and to encourage the next generation of college students specifically to get involved to post about this on their social media to pick up the microphone in the wake of Charlie's death especially, and to keep the mission going for this revival as a generation. We are excited to show you a couple of minutes of my speech here at Liberty in just a few moments, but I found it really poignant when I walked in to record today's episode of the Isabel Brown show into this gorgeous podcast studio here at the Standing For Freedom Center. There's a beautiful quote on the wall from the founder of Liberty University, Jerry Falwell Sr. That I had forgotten is here on the wall, but speaks so powerfully to the call to action that every single one of us has to live with today, tomorrow, the next day, and for the rest of our lives. It says this the idea that religion and politics don't mix was invented by the devil to keep Christians from running their own country. Hmm. How many times have you heard in the last few weeks that the separation of church and state was intentionally designed to keep religion out of politics, that it's a constitutional separation and it's something that we need to retain, especially under the threat of this Christian revival happening with young people across the country? We fact checked that on the show many times over over the past six weeks. But in case you need the reminder, the idea of the separation of church and state is nowhere in our founding documents. It is referenced once in a letter from Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptist Convention to talk about keeping the government out of politics. Or, sorry, the government out of religion and out of faith, not the other way around. And our very foundation as a society was indeed built upon the idea that we have to be one nation under God. If not, we fracture, we fall apart under the banner of progressivism. We actually see our society regress to a point that we can no longer recognize it. And if that isn't the exact playbook we have seen unfold throughout my entire lifetime here in the United States, speeding up like a snowball and avalanche down the hill more and more in the past decade than ever before in modern history. I don't know what else is the idea that religion and politics don't mix was invented by the devil to keep Christians from running their own country. What foresight to have the ability to say that decades ago and now to see it play out right before our very eyes. This is my third or fourth time speaking at Liberty, and every time I come to this campus, I am blown away by the missional worldview of the students here. They come from all over the world, but they understand that their call to Action has to be bigger than just getting a degree and going through the motions of college and taking classes and then leaving and forgetting about your identity rooted in Christ. Everyone that I have met at Liberty University goes on to serve something bigger than themselves, whether that's public service in government and politics, going into ministry work, becoming influencers and content creators and podcast hosts. I've met many who went here to Liberty as students themselves for the past several years, whatever that looks like. There is a heart and soul to this campus that is so special and so unique and I hope inspires an entire generation to come to realize that we all have to pick up this microphone. We all have to be a part of boldly proclaiming Jesus Christ to a world that's actively trying to erase him. And it is high time we stop apologizing for it and and we stop being embarrassed about our identity in Christ. Just like we took you along to my event at Colorado State University a couple of weeks ago. We are so excited to share my speech from right here at Liberty University's Freedom Uncensored 2025 with you here on the Isabel Brown Show. So let's take a look. How is everyone doing this morning? Some more energy than last night. We love to see it. I'm so excited to be back with with you this morning and to be engaging in this age old question of what it means to be on the front lines of fighting for culture and to pick up our call as Christians to boldly lead in our society. Two thousand years ago, the world changed forever when an unexpected, courageous young woman was visited by an angel to bring God incarnate into the world. Mary, the mother of God, was perhaps the last person society ever expected to take on such a commission, such an honor and responsibility. But her courageous yes led to all of our salvation through her son Jesus and fundamentally changed humanity. Thank God she said yes. Similarly, a group of ragtag young uneducated people around that time, certainly not the religious leaders of their time, the apostles, courageously said yes when asked by the Savior of the world. Follow me. No one expected that their call would reach every corner of the globe, that their yes would transform history as we knew it, and to make Christianity the face of God's call and covenant for humanity. But thank God they said yes. 250 years ago, the world again changed forever when an unexpected group of young men and women were willing to put their lives on the line to do something that the world had never seen before, to found a country and reinvent a society on the basis of an identity as one nation under God. Our founding fathers and mothers were not what you hear about in your history textbook or see in marble busts in Washington D.C. where I live. They were not these shriveled, ancient, elderly, out of touch people. They were mere 18, 19, 20 year olds whose power could not hold a candle to the raging flame of the British Empire. But despite all odds, they set out to create the greatest country and society the world has ever known. Thank God they said yes. Six weeks ago our world forever changed again when someone possessed by the forces of evil viciously took the life of our friend and the leader of the young Conservative movement, Charlie Kirk. We remain utterly devastated in the wake of Charlie's passing, but I think incredibly we are also all miraculously starting to see the greater place plan in all of this as God continues to do what he has always done to work all things together for good. Charlie's yes to speak the truth even in the most hostile of circumstances. And I would know I was on the front lines of most of those college insane moments on campuses with him over the past decade. That yes, inspired an entire generation to abandon moral relativism, to fight back against big government, and to seek what is good and true and beautiful in a society that is trying to convince you that those things don't even exist anymore. Truth is the bottom line of every single thing that we fight for here on the Isabel Brown show. And it matters so much. Not just in the media that we consume, but in our health too. While everyone has just been pushing the latest magic wellness greens powder on your TikTok or some magic one size fits all health solution, I have been asking myself why are we just blindly trusting everything that influencers are posting on TikTok when it comes to making sure that we feel our best, Especially as a new mom, I can't afford to just guess what my body needs to thrive anymore. Which is exactly why I have partnered with Jevity. 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Lord, send me. When we see these turning point moments, for lack of a better term in history, it is so easy to say that could never be me. I could never be Charlie Kirk. I could never be Ben Shapiro. I could never be President Donald Trump. I could never be any of the people that you're seeing on this stage today. I'm nothing special. I'm just a student. I'm just a 20 something, I'm just a mom. I'm just a girl, as we all like to say on social media. And I believed that. I 100% believed that. If you've been following me for a while, you'll know my story ended up here on this stage at Liberty, completely by accident. I set out on my educational journey as a biomedical sciences student because ever since I was yay tall, which wasn't really that long ago in the grand scheme of things, but God only lets things grow until they're perfect, right? So some of us didn't take as long as others. It's okay. I have loved science ever since I was a young child. I loved this idea of the pursuit of objective truth and wanting to use that passion to help people in whatever way I could. So I knew from a very young age I wanted to be a trauma surgeon, to take all of these problems right in front of my face. To use the pursuit of truth and fix all of them. To save something that's bigger than all of the parts that you're dealing with right in front of you on the operating table. But along the way, I realized that God was calling me in a completely different direction than I ever set myself. And the path that I was willing to say yes to led to the most unexpected and beautiful places I ever could have imagined in my wildest dreams. The longer I continue to study the history of our nation and world and see history play out before our eyes in real time, the more I realize that all of the most influential voices and impactful stories throughout our human experience are not uniquely called to greatness or uniquely called to pick up microphones like this one. We all are. Every one of us, and all it requires is a simple, quiet, courageous yes. An answer every day to wake up and to say, here I am, Lord. Send me When I began my journey in the conservative movement as a college student, just like all of you in 2017, attending an event a lot like this one for young women in the conservative movement after feeling incredibly isolated and alone on my campus, I could have never imagined the places that God would have taken me when I first courageously said yes to fighting on the front lines of our nation's culture war and to take our country back for our generation. I never dreamed that I would be working in media or politics for my career. I wanted to be a doctor, as mentioned, until Charlie Kirk of all people encouraged me to abandon my pursuit of medical school school and post videos on Instagram for a living. Sorry mom and dad. Leaning into God's calling for my life instead. In my wildest dreams, I could have never prepared for God to grow my Instagram account from just over 100,000 people to more than 1.1 million in just over a year as I sought to make people laugh, to give them hope and to share truth with them in real time through 15 seconds crazy reaction videos or hour long podcasts discussing the importance of Christians getting involved in the fight. I never dreamed that I would be spending 2025 sitting in the Oval Office with the President and Vice President of the United States, or shaking hands with the new American Pope at the Vatican, or launching my new show at the Daily Wire just six weeks ago. I never imagined the ups and downs of dating in my 20s. Which, yes, was terrible. We've all been there that just four months after a horrible, heart wrenching breakup, I would meet my incredible husband who I have the honor and privilege of loving and serving every single day. I could have never dreamed to be a mom at 28 years old. To the most beautiful little girl in the entire world, who's right backstage, right there, whose eyes and smile light up every room that she comes into and whose curiosity is already getting the better of her. Yet here I stand in utter wonder at what God has turned my life into. Because I had the courage, mostly instilled in me by mentors like my friend Charlie, to throw all of my plans by the wayside for my life and instead to surrender everything to God. A few weeks ago, we heard the courageous and beautiful Erica Kirk address the nation just a few days after Charlie's assassination as she shared with us that Charlie, if he ever were to run for president, I think we knew that eventually Charlie Kirk were to be the president. His ultimate dream for our country was to revive the American family. And you saw that come through in everything Charlie talked about more than anything else in the last few years of his life. When he was sparring back and forth with people on college campuses, when he was sitting in his podcast studio, when he was speaking to church groups all over the country, the number one message he had for young people was to fall in love courageously. To get married younger than you think you possibly can, to have more kids than you could ever possibly afford. Because Charlie loved his family, Charlie loved his wife, and he loved his children. In fact, just about a week to the day before he was killed, I had the incredible privilege of sharing the stage with Charlie at one of his last speaking engagements on this earth, at a multi denominational audience at a big church in the Fresno area of California, talking about the pro life movement. And normally both of us are sprinting breakneck speed and constantly zigzagging across the country on different airplanes. We live out of suitcases. We have about 30 seconds to give each other a side hug, catch up about the good old days, say I liked your episode of so and so and then move on. But randomly, we had about two or three hours to spend together before this event ended up being getting started. And he waved me into the green room and invited me to come watch the Chicago Cubs game on FaceTime with his family, Charlie's by far favorite pastime of all time. And as I watched this incredible, tireless young man giving everything he could to save our country, even if it meant sacrificing time with his family, more than anything else, I saw Charlie as a husband and as a father. That day, he was FaceTiming with his daughter Gigi and his wife Erica to watch the very end of the Chicago Cubs game on the hope that they would be able to sing the victory song together, which they did via FaceTime and over and over and over again. At the end of the call, his beautiful daughter just kept asking, daddy, when are you coming home? Daddy, when are you coming home? To which he answered repeatedly, over and over, as soon as I possibly can. Charlie loved the experience that he got to have in bringing new life into the world and wanted to share that experience with as many people as possible. And like many people, they owe their families to Charlie because they met working at Turning Point USA or at a conference, happened to hear one of these podcast episodes or see a clip on TikTok, and as he fought so hard to share that message above all with our generation, I don't find it coincidental that throughout the 2000 and 20s it is becoming incredibly obvious to me that with every passing day there is a unique cultural war being waged against the family, specifically in America and across Western civilization. No longer are the conversations we're having in the conservative movement about electing the right person to sit in the Oval Office or to pass legislation to make life more affordable for young people. Those things do remain important and we should keep advocating for them, but they don't nearly match the cultural significance of the efforts to undermine and erase God's design for humanity, which is the family unit by the forces of evil all around us Today, constantly on social media, we hear from the red pill alpha male bro podcasters that for you young men, marriage is a trap. It's a scam. It's an evil way for leftist women to to steal all of your money and prevent you from ever being successful and drive Lamborghinis and put six figures or seven figures or eight figures in the bank, while at the same time young women are getting the exact same talking points from the insane rabid leftist feminists telling you marriage is a trap. It's a way for the patriarchy to hold you back, to make sure that you never have a thriving career, a wonderful dating life, opportunities to go on trips with your friends. And this narrative gets louder with every passing day. Emma Watson, randomly of all people, came out of the shadows from disappearing from public life a few weeks ago to do her first podcast episode in years in which she said the pressure to get married, which I'm looking around. What pressure? Everyone's encouraging you not to get married. The pressure to get married is a violence against young people. Interesting that everything is violence except actual violence to these people. But that's another conversation for another time. We are living in a time where it's so obvious that lies are easy and the truth is costly. And nowhere is that more devastating than in the continued battle for life. That's exactly what Natalia faced when she first learned of her unexpected pregnancy. Natalia considered abortion just like millions of other women do across the world every year, largely influenced by the messaging that she had been exposed to her whole life and swirling around us all the time in our broken culture. But everything changed when she heard her baby's heartbeat on an ultrasound. In that moment, she felt a divine calling to continue her pregnancy. Trusting that God would make a way forward, whatever that would look like, Natalia chose life and found herself surrounded by the love, support, and resources that she needed at Preborn Network clinics. This happens on average 200 times a day because of support from people like you. Moms who are overwhelmed and pressured suddenly see their baby. They hear the truth, and they realize that they are not alone. That moment of Truth costs just $28 to sponsor an ultrasound. An ultrasound, by the way, doubles a baby's chance at life. I will never forget the very first time I saw my daughter on an ultrasound at just 11 weeks old, waving at me with her little te tiny hand. And even though I had always been pro life, that moment was so sacred in understanding our babies in our bodies are not just random clumps of cells or unrecognizable tissue. They are fully formed human beings who deserve our love, dignity, and all of the support that we can possibly give them now, as we continue to fight for millions of other babies who are vulnerable to the lies of abortion. This is not the time for silence. It's the time for courage. A time for truth and a time for life. You can give now to help transform a mom in need and save her baby's Life by dialing £250 and saying the keyword baby into your phone. That's £250, keyword baby. Or visit preborn.comisabel that's preborn.comisabel to save a baby's life and transform a mom's life for the better. And that narrative becomes so powerful then that they convince you not to get married. But when they fail at that, they know that you want marriage, because who doesn't want their best friend by their side for the rest of your life? They'll then convince you to never want to have children, because they know that if you can create something bigger than yourself, if your family can inspire your community and change the world, they lose their grip on controlling you. The Los Angeles Times ran a headline just before the November election last year that says essentially you shouldn't even want to have children in the first place. The headline was, it is almost shameful to want to have children, Creating a cultural narrative that changes even science. Our last surgeon general under the Biden administration, in one of his last acts in power as our most powerful physician in the United States, issued a public health warning. Big giant signs everywhere, caution tape, airport marquee flashing signs warning, parenting is dangerous to your health. This is real. The real reason given for this is because, get this, you'll be more lonely if you have children. You'll be more isolated from society if you have children and more stressed out. So the alternative is for you to live alone in your basement and never interact with another human being, ever. For years, you haven't been able to even call mothers mothers. Right? We're birthing people, or people who menstruate, or my personal favorite, being used in hospitals across the country, chest feeders so that we can undermine women from the experience of even breastfeeding our children to not just say that, oh well, that's a woman, but she's actually a man. No, no. We are stimulating artificial lactation in biological men with hormone injections so that men can chest feed their children juice. Instead of mothers nourishing their babies, we are cutting women out of the procreative process entirely. There are new startup companies in cities like San Francisco by the name of conception that are actually using the science, the pursuit of truth that God gave us to become God instead and to create new human beings entirely in petri dishes derived entirely from stem cells. No sperm, no egg cell ever required in the process. A few weeks ago, I saw photos going viral on Instagram of an all male conference in New York City for an organization called Men having babies, where a room bigger than this one was filled with thousands of men, mostly single men, talking about how to rent a woman's body to purchase a child through commercial surrogacy marketed to single same sex attracted men. In China, we've developed birth robots that are set to roll out for commercial use in the next few years for the low sticker price of $14,000. This, of course, while one in seven couples in America is dealing with unexplained infertility and we don't have the courage societally to even ask why we could keep going. But the thing about this is clear. The so called progressive left is waging a war against the family in every single facet of culture, not just to attack it, but to erase it entirely. Until God's plan, perfect design for humanity, the family is lost in our postmodern culture. This is, make no mistake about it, an injustice, because the family is by far the strongest building block of any society throughout human history. The happiest and the healthiest and the wealthiest people of all time are shocker married men and women with children. And they're statistically much happier when they're pursuing Christ at exactly the same time in their marriage. I don't tell you this to make you feel bad, and that's often the feedback that I get on social media if you're not married, or to suggest that your life is terrible or meaningless, or you're not living God's vocation for your life if you are single. To the contrary, we are all made in God's image. But I tell you this, and the conservative movement is focusing so deeply on the family today to encourage you, to tell you that it's okay and it's in fact beautiful, to seek more for your life than the lies that our broken culture has to offer. Because we want more for you than the left. What they want for you to be fat, ugly and miserable. We want you to have purpose, to be happy, to share the love of Christ with other people in the most meaningful way you can, and to leave a legacy that is bigger than making yourself the God of your own life. Charlie Kirk's greatest legacy was undoubtedly the thousands upon thousands upon thousands of families that he created. And I don't even know if he was aware of that during his lifetime. My family is just one example of that. My husband and I met working for Turning Point USA at a Turning Point USA conference. I know several people in the audience have very similar experience experiences. And our daughter Isla, who is the light of our lives and the reason that we jump out of bed every single morning to host podcasts, or in his case, to serve our country working in the government today is our daughter. To me, though, Charlie also imparted countless other invaluable lessons that I will carry with me forever, and mainly this, that it doesn't take fame and glory and privilege to change the world. He had a little sign on his desk that he referenced every single day that it's amazing what you can get done when you don't care who gets the credit and ultimately what it takes to change our country and to change the world. To answer that call from God and to say yes are quiet, simple acts of Courage. What does that look like today? Harsh truth. It means deleting your dating apps. Delete them and be willing young men to ask a young woman to go to dinner. I know it's scary. Statistically though if you just ask, chances are she's going to say yes because nobody is asking. It means actually having the courage to fall in love young women not to sit around waiting for a text from some guy named Josh at 2am you up? It's not real love, but instead to say I'm not even interested in going on a date with someone until I know that they are interested in the pursuit of marriage because my time is valuable and my life is called to something bigger than myself. It means women quitting your hormonal birth control. It's slow release poison by the way. I should know. I took it for nine years and fell for a lot of the lies sold to our generation that it was a magic pill that would make you feel so much better as a young woman. And now of course thousands are suing over brain tumors and depression and the fact that we were attracted to more feminine men when we were taking birth control explains a lot about everyone's dating history, but something we need to leave behind in an era past in American culture. It's the courage to have more children than you can possibly afford earlier than you think you are ready for it. There is no perfect time to welcome a child into the world, but the moment you meet your baby sitting on your chest, the minute you give birth to them, you will realize that is the perfect time. And it's such a privilege to share that experience all at the same time. With many of my friends in the conservative movement, I have the cutest little group chat going right now with Brett Cooper and Riley Gaines where we send baby pictures back and forth every single day. To change culture means to have the courage to eat real food instead of the processed chemicals that are keeping us dependent upon cycles of submission to the government. It means posting on your social media when you know that everyone in the legacy media is feeding you state sponsored propaganda from all across the world and to be willing to question things, to think differently, to raise your hand in class, to challenge things in any way you possibly can, and most importantly, to change the world means going to church on Sunday morning, more importantly than any other choice you will ever make. I see a T shirt in the fourth row today of this event that says I am Charlie Kirk and for those of us that knew and loved Charlie and had the privilege of working with him for the last decade or so. We are humbled and in awe and blown away by this organic movement to say you can silence one person, but if you think for a second you are going to silence a movement, you are sorely, sorely mistaken. I spent some time with Vivek Ramaswamy on the campaign trail last year. I was really fascinated by his extremely grassroots presidential campaign and his vision for the country to know that he really was the only politician remotely aware that we have a national identity crisis happening in our country. In fact, he said as much on the debate stage in Miami and every other Republican nominee for president. Obviously, Donald Trump wasn't participating, but Nikki Haley and the like laughed at him when he said that, when he said, we can't even answer the question what does it mean to be an American today? We need a generational revolution. And he repeated this talking point repeatedly on the campaign trail, especially in the snowy blizzards of Iowa where I spent time with him. And he was doing many, many news hits from the backseat of a Suburban as we're driving through snow, coming sideways, saying, this is a 1776 style revolution happening with young people today, not with arms, but with ideas, with values, with our choices as a generation together. From here at Liberty and to every other corner of our country, it is up to us to wage that 1776 style revolution every day. With the choices we make, with the values that we espouse and the courage that we have to share them with other people, we must courageously choose truth. We must choose goodness, we must choose beauty. And we must wake up every single day to say, here I am, Lord, send me. Thank you Liberty University and keep up the fight. Thank you so much from the bottom of my heart to Liberty University for having us back on campus. As a reminder, if you guys have campus groups and you want me to come speak on campus, we love doing college events so you can always reach out to our team and we will do our absolute best to make as many of them happen as humanly possible. But promise me this, when you stop watching this episode today, I want you to hit your knees in your room, in your dorm room, in your don't hit your knees in your car, but wherever you possibly can, your place of work, ask yourself and ask God, what can I do today to be bolder, to be louder, to pick up that microphone in my own sphere of influence and to never again apologize for sharing the love of God with the world, calling Christian nationalist labels and all of that be damned. Consequences be damned, my reputation be damned. Because we are at, for lack of a better term, a turning point in our country. And it desperately needs you. Not just the people you follow, not just the people in office, not just the people with a big platform. But we need you to be on the front lines of this culture war and to save our society forever. We'll see what that looks like tomorrow on the Isabel Brown Show. Don't forget to subscribe to the channel or follow us wherever you are watching or listening and find your favorite podcast platform, Spotify or Apple to leave a Leave us a five star review and download the latest episode of the show. We love you guys. We'll see you tomorrow.