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Isabelle Brown
in San Antonio to sit down on the blue couch with some real life student activists living through the conservative culture wars every day on their college campuses at Turning Point USA's Women's Leadership Summit. And I'm so excited to be asking these young women today how they perceive feminism. Has it been a success story? Is it straight up leftist propaganda aimed to hold women back? Or maybe somewhere in the middle none of these women would call themselves feminists. And I can't wait to unpack why. All right, here to break down the ins and outs of feminism versus Femininity and how our culture might be lying to our generation. We have the most beautiful lineup of women here at Turning Point's Women's Leadership Summit. Who are you? How did you guys find out about tpusa and why are you here this weekend?
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Naomi
I'm Naomi. I am from Livingston, Montana. I started a chapter at my high school last September and we had some super great success with it and I'm actually going to be a field rep for Turning Point next year. And so that is kind of why I'm here and just getting to know all these amazing women and get to connect with everyone and just get to grow some relationships. Yeah.
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Eve
So my name is Eve. I'm from Corpus Christi, Texas. I currently go to school at Texas A and M. I'm a tabling chair for my chapter. Just transferred in there. I got in involved in TPUSA from like really young age about middle school when I had a girl come up to me at my youth group and say hey, are Your parents gonna vote for Hillary because they better. And I was like, who is that? So then since then I've just really been involved mostly as like an online tpusa. And then as soon as I got in college, cause I was homeschooled. As soon as I got in college, I said, yep, gonna be joining the chapter. And I'm here. Cause I just love being surrounded by like minded women with biblical ideals and truths and everything. And I just think it's so beautiful.
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Kaylee
My name is Kaylee. I'm from Washington State. I started a Club America chapter at my school. It was really hard to kick it off and get stuff going because of administration and all that. So I just kind of came here to learn how to be a better leader. And if I go to college, I want to start a chapter there or join a chapter there.
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Isabelle Brown
And I just want to learn how
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Kaylee
to strengthen my values.
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Emmy
It's awesome.
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Naomi
Yeah.
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Emmy
My name is Emmy, I'm from Indiana, I go to Hanover College and I started my chapter a year ago because my. I love to say it's 95% liberals, so I love to bring out the 5% of us. And I'm just here because it is my first WLS and I'm so excited. I want to grow in my faith. I want to listen to all these inspiring women, but I also want to listen to the inspiring women on the couch and grow closer to girls that think like me.
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Kaylee
That's beautiful.
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Sydney
My name is Sydney. I'm from Texas. And my first Turning Point event was actually WLS a couple years ago in Grapevine, Texas. And I got involved with Turning Point from that point on and started an activism hub in my hometown. And then now I'm a college chapter president. But it's my second year on Hype Squad. And that's just been such a gift to be involved with Turning Point events and make lifelong friends. And that's why I keep coming back. I love America and my faith's important to me. And so this is an incredible organization to.
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Isabelle Brown
Well, may you all keep coming back. Because this is taking me back to nine years ago this month when I went to my very first ever political event. And we used to call it ywls. It was just for students at the time. But I went to Dallas, Texas. It was before it was even in Grapevine. It was at a tiny hotel attached to the Dallas Fort Worth Airport. And there were maybe 3, 400 of us at the time. In the summer of 2017 for one of the very first ever young women's leadership summits with tpusa. And that's what ignited my fire to start a chapter on my campus and get involved in the conservative movement, too. So you never know where this is gonna take you. But what I love the most about this event is seeing how much it grows every single year. What went from a few hundred kids throwing a PJ party with Charlie Kirk that was a real thing a few years ago has now become like a massive movement of women from all generations, all age demographics, all racial demographics, all coming together to celebrate the unique gift that is womanhood and to fight back against this loud narrative in our culture that says you have to be a raging leftist if you happen to have a uterus, even if that doesn't mean that you're a woman, which is very bizarre. Right? All the rules seem to change every day. What do you guys think are some of the most powerful feminist lies that are permeating through our culture, either in the education system or not? Maybe what you're seeing on social media or amongst your friends that seem to be dictating what a strong woman looks like today.
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Kaylee
I think that the biggest lie is that you don't need a husband, you don't need to have a man, you don't need to have kids to have a happy life, that children are a burden or it's expensive and you'll never be happy. You'll be trapped. I just think that's completely ridiculous for someone like me. I don't necessarily want to, like, go to college and, like, work a lot and I don't want to work a
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Naomi
corporate job or whatever.
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Kaylee
I want to get married. I want to have a good husband. I want to be a good wife and I want to be a good mother.
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Isabelle Brown
That's beautiful. Hope you guys are loving today's conversation. I am still in Alaska, looking at the most beautiful mountain view ever for my sister's wedding, which has been the perfect break from the city. But when we get back to D.C. next week, it is already the 4th of July, America's 250th birthday. And I think it's so important that we take the time to look back on the history of sacrifice, perseverance, grit and determination that marks America as the most unique and greatest society in the world. Which is why I'm so excited about our friends at Hallow's new prayer challenge, the American Heroes challenge. It's a 13 day journey through the lives of remarkable Americans whose faith truly changed the course of history. From St. Francis Cabrini, Elizabeth Ann Seton, Dorothy Day, and even Our new pope, Pope Leo xiv. We have a chance to learn about extraordinary Americans who are bringing their faith and to our country and culture, too. And we're also going to reflect on the faith of the Founding Fathers and the fact that our faith as Christians is the bedrock and foundation of our country. On the fourth of July itself, the challenge concludes with a prayer that we all get a chance to participate in together. A chance to thank God for what has been and what still can be in our next 250 years. You can download the Hallow app today and join us for this prayer challenge or anything else on the platform for 90 days free@halloween.com and I want to
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Emmy
add on to that, I would say also the biggest lie is that child childbearing is a burden or it's something that now I would say is looked down upon. I don't know if you've seen the lady on TikTok with the pregnancy list, like, reasons not to get pregnant.
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Isabelle Brown
I rage against this girl.
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Emmy
So really just demonizing what I ultimately believe we were made to do. I think childbearing is beautiful, and it's completely flipped 180, and I think that's really sad.
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Kaylee
Well, and it's a gift. Sorry. It's a gift that God gave us specifically for women. It's not for men.
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Isabelle Brown
No. It's the only time human beings can participate right alongside God in the creation of new life. I mean, that is a superhero, right? That's not a disability. That's something that we should embrace as our greatest potential calling. And yet we're here at this women's conference, and you might be able to hear some screaming in the background, because out on the sidewalk right outside is a massive group of women in handmaid's tail cuffs costumes with gigantic signs about how it's evil to tell women that it's beautiful to have children. I guess. Are you guys encountering that a lot? That message that somehow having kids is beneath you? And where are you hearing it? What are people saying?
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Kaylee
I get it a lot because I'm graduating this year from high school and people. I get the question, what are you doing after high school? Or what do you want to. Where do you see yourself when you're 25 years old? And so I say, well, I just want to be a mom. And they're like. They give me a look. I'm like, sorry, that's how I feel. That's what I want. That's the truth.
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Emmy
It's always, don't you want more than that? Don't you want a career? And it's like, well, I could have that too, but that's not my ultimate goal. Like, I want to have a family. I want to have a happy life. And that's something that is important to us. And it's like, it shouldn't be important to us. Like, we should put it to the side and work for money or work for a position somewhere.
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Eve
I think, like, we were kind of touching on this a little bit, but, like, with first wave feminism, for example, like, we were told this is for equal rights. This is for women to be able to vote and be able to do whatever they want. But, like, the more I looked into it, it's, you know, Gloria Steinem and Simone don't even know how to say her last name. Not gonna try. But basically, you know, she said that women will never feel completely liberated until they are out of the house, which is just so interesting. And it's like, if you look at the statistics and everything, unmarried women with no children are the least happy.
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Isabelle Brown
They are miserable. 3 times less happy than married women with kids.
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Kaylee
Yes.
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Eve
I think there was a statistic. 3,000. I know they did it last year, 3,000 U.S. adults. And it said, I think 34% of unmarried women with no children, they were the least happiest. And the happiest was 47. So almost 50% of women were married and had children, were so happy. And so I just think it's so sad. And also, just children are a burden. Like the YouTuber that just aborted their child because it had down syndrome.
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Isabelle Brown
So what do you guys think about that? That's been a huge story on social media this week. What was your reaction?
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Naomi
Well, I saw it on X and I was scrolling, and somebody made a comment about how the child was parasitic and can't contribute to the workforce, so therefore they have no value. And that, like, really hit me. And I was like, I got really emotional from that because I was like, there's no way. Like, there are people with down syndrome who work all the time. And if the only thing that we can give to this world is working in the workforce, then we've really lost it, I think.
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Isabelle Brown
So this progression of feminism is interesting to me because we went from, well, it's really about equality. You can have a job and you can have your own bank account and you can be your own person legally. And all of the things that I think generally most people agree with, regardless of political affiliation today. But feminism has really progressed now. People disagree on whether we're in the fourth or fifth wave of feminism, but postmodern feminism today in the 2000s, now to this point that you are only a strong woman if you run away from everything that makes womanhood unique. And if basically you become a man or you celebrate men in women's spaces as the best women. Right. It's why trans women or biological men are winning sports championships, and they're winning Women of the Year awards and taking our sorority slots and so much more. How did that progression happen, do you think? And maybe did it originate with the origins of feminism not really being about equality or women's empowerment?
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Emmy
I would say it brings me back to Ali's speech saying, how much do you love someone to tell them the truth. And I think we've done a lot of affirming bad behavior. And I think that's why we've gotten so far to the point where us as Christians, we can't say this is wrong because we're afraid that we might lose someone we love. But at the end of the day, if we love someone so much, wouldn't we want to tell them the truth? Wouldn't we want to see them in heaven? And so I think it's been waves of affirmation and just letting it happen. I would say that's probably what contributed to it a lot.
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Isabelle Brown
One of you mentioned before we started filming, this idea of the commodification of women being presented as empowering. And a whole lot of that has to do with subscription services like OnlyFans. But I think we see it in TV shows like Euphoria being one of the most popular shows among teenage girls today, really prioritizing transactional sex, prioritizing the idea of you giving 100% of yourself away to feel good temporarily, or even to make money from it as some sort of empowerment. Where do you fall on that? And do you think that that lie is being pushed on purpose to the women of our generation?
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Emmy
I would say I think that it definitely has the potential to be pushed on purpose. I know that there's OnlyFans account managers that usually are men, that they make a lot of money. They take money from these girls that are making millions of dollars. And I don't want to bash any of the women that are OnlyFans models because part of me feels a little sad for them, because I just know if I was in that position, I wouldn't be comfortable with it. And I feel like there was a certain extent that they were pushed to that point to say, like, oh, I am comfortable with it. And so I Feel like we live in a culture and a society where hookup culture is the norm, party culture is the norm. I especially have experienced that in college and saying that these are normal things, these will make you happy, and they don't make you happy.
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Isabelle Brown
How about those of you who just graduated from high school? I'm curious what the conversations are looking like among younger teenagers or even maybe in your sex ed class, your health classes. What does intimacy look like today for teenagers?
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Naomi
I think intimacy has like really lost its kind of grip on what it used to be like. I think in a relationship intimacy was like hugs and forehead kisses and, you know, just sweet little things. And now if you're not like, you know, hooking up or having sex with your boyfriend, then it's like, well then like how do you guys have a connection? Like there people think that like the only way that you're able to connect with your significant other is through that like sex. And there is so much more to a relationship than that. And I think like just through social media and tik tok, like it gets so just normalized to, for hooking up and just to have sex and to just give yourself away like that.
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Isabelle Brown
As we spent today speaking with some extraordinary students that are doing everything they can to bring the truth to the next generation, I have spent so much time the last couple of months thinking about the few college camps campuses left in America that are truly dedicated to the pursuit of objective truth. There are many, trust me, I visit most of them. But one that I've really come to know and love over the last few years is Grand Canyon University in beautiful Phoenix, Arizona. GCU is a non profit Christian university that is truly academically rigorous, preparing students for actual industry jobs. They also believe education shouldn't be a privilege, but should be affordable to all, which is why they have not raised tuition on their main campus for the last 17 years, unheard of in the world of higher education, and in 2025 awarded more than $400 million in scholarships to their students. Most importantly though, GCU remains grounded in Christian truth and the pursuit of virtue, which in today's society is so desperately needed to prepare the next generation of leaders to impact America in the most important ways possible. If you're looking for a great place to pursue your higher education or know someone who's looking for the perfect environment for them, you guys can take action. And find more about GCU at gcu.edu this is interesting to me because I do think that is the cultural narrative right now, especially pushed to young women that you should be sexually liberated, you should have sexual relations with as many people as humanly possible. It's why platforms like Tinder go out of their way to advertise to young women and normalize this idea of the one night stand. Because that's how you live your 20s, right? That's how you live your young adult years. And you're supposed to go crazy and kids and marriage and all the boring stuff can wait until after that. But the data says the opposite. The data says we are having a record low number of teenage sexual encounters, of teenage pregnancies, of even just premarital sex in general. Do you think we've pushed the envelope so far in normalizing everything that now everything's just kind of like eh, like nobody really wants to do anything now?
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Eve
I think to go back to that idea of how modern feminism is about how can I be a man? And I think that they don't understand women. We're emotional, we have so many more neuro pathways of emotions and our hormones and men are phys. I mean men have emotions, but they're also physical beings. And so they don't really make as much of a emotional soul tie connection when they are hooking up with someone. When women keep doing that, their oxytocin is just lowering after each hookup and eventually they're just gonna feel nothing and just like they're used goods. And I think that's why you're seeing lower and lower oxytocin in women, why women don't want to engage. I have friends in college who hook up because they just, they're like, I just don't care anymore. I'm never going to find a husband. I'm not good for anything else.
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Isabelle Brown
Oh my gosh.
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Eve
And that's really, really hard to see.
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Isabelle Brown
How do you guys think we counter that narrative? How can we speak life into more young women and encourage them that they are worthy of so much more than that?
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Sydney
I mean, I think about my faith. I mean it outlines and gives a pathway for absolutely everything in my life. And especially, I mean abstaining from sex before marriage. I mean it's a beautiful thing, but within the confines of marriage. And it's a very dangerous and damaging thing outside of marriage. And I think that that's shining through right now. And people might not be making that connection, but it makes sense. I mean when you, you go back to scripture. And so I think we're losing the art of just communication. Asking questions, getting to know people for who they are and how they tick and you know, their passions. And so, I mean, losing that demand for physical intimacy before marriage and getting back to that art of getting to know someone actually for who they are and valuing them beyond just what they can give you transactionally, so to speak, I think is incredibly important.
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Kaylee
I think I see this a lot, especially in high school. There's almost like this narrative that girls need to have a boyfriend to feel. I don't know, to feel happy or whatever. So, like, they'll get in a relationship, they break up, she goes, gets with another guy. And it just reminds me of in Genesis, when God created Eve. He did it when Adam was asleep. So it was just between Eve and God, and he made her out of Adam's rib. So it's not between a girl and a guy. It's between a girl and God to find her right man, to.
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Isabelle Brown
There's a lot of happiness being talked about right now with this idea of generational spiritual revival led by Gen Z. But mostly I'm seeing it talked about through the lens of young men, that it's young men leading the crusade back to church pews on Sunday morning and reading the Bible a whole lot more. I think young women are right behind that. But what can we do to help encourage more of that? And do you think that there's enough effective messaging from the opposite of the raging feminist perspective reaching young women effectively today?
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Sydney
This actually instantly reminds me of Charlie's speech last year at cls, and he was like, you know, young women start saying no, like, it'll light a fire under these men, and it will point them back to the gospel. If you start saying no, because if they truly desire you and you want to be in a relationship with you and you say no, that's gonna change something in them. And so, I mean, we need to stand up for ourselves and hold strong to our values and not give in to that peer pressure that this culture's telling us to give in to. Intimacy too far before marriage.
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Eve
I also think. I think just such a reminder that always goes through my head is we weren't created to do the things that men can do. We were created to do the things that men can't do.
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Isabelle Brown
Oh, girl, preach. Can I get a favor?
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Eve
And it's just like, I think.
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Sydney
I think that.
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Eve
I think what's really powerful in the conservative women's movement right now is just realizing we can embrace our femininity. We can have a job and also have kids. I mean, obviously, it may differ. You're not gonna be 100% in both. But Just knowing, like you, for example, you're such a great mom and you are such a great leader and commentator. And Riley Gaines, she was just at my campus a couple months ago. I had her baby with her. And it's just so beautiful to see that. I think everyone is sold the lie. Oh, you have to be a trad wife. You have to be. No, you can do both. And if you wanna be a stay mom and just want to do that and work from home, you can do that.
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Isabelle Brown
How do you guys feel about this narrative that somehow it's impossible to have a thriving career and a beautiful family? I hear it all the time and frankly I get a lot of hate from both sides on all of this because I'm not quite trad enough because I have a microphone and I speak and I do things, but I'm also this like, raging, put everyone in the kitchen barefoot and pregnant. Which actually is quite fun to be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. I speak from existence. What does that feel like to you? Do you think that's demeaning to women? Do you think that tells us we're not strong enough? And what's your response to it?
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Sydney
Yeah, I can chime in on this. So personally I'm chasing the career path of becoming an airline pilot, but I also have the desire for marriage and potentially a family. And I think that both are beautiful. And I think that you can absolutely do both, but maybe not to the fullest extent at the same time. Like, so say I get married and have children, okay, I'll take time off or have a less demanding airline job. But I mean, that's what I'm passionate about. And so I don't think women should sacrifice their God given desires or abilities because I can be a witness like for the Lord in that career, but I can also have a husband and kids. And so I think that chasing your passion, but also knowing like your God given gift of being able to have a husband and kids is beautiful and so absolutely do both.
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Isabelle Brown
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Emmy
I would say this is one thing that I've always felt so strongly on is like, I feel like we need to get our economy back to the point where one income can support the whole household. I don't like that we're sending our kids to daycares or other, other services when we're going to work and so somebody else is raising our child. I feel like it's difficult after a eight hour workday to come home and I feel like another eight hour workday being a mom is a job in itself and taking care of the house. And so I feel like sometimes, sometimes the culture makes it so that we can't fully experience motherhood or have a thriving career at the same time. But there's women out there.
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Eve
They do do it. They do do it.
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Isabelle Brown
It's hard. Let's unpack that a little bit because this is interesting and honestly was a little taboo in the conservative world to talk about until very, very recently. Charlie was ruffling a lot of feathers on this subject just before he was killed. That these economic conversations we're having have to be so much bigger than tax breaks and child tax credits and all these things the Republican party used to talk about. But supporting a single income household so that a family can thrive and grow up or being able to buy your first home, I mean, these are important things that really do involve our stake in the American dream, but that our generation just doesn't even feel like we have access to because the system seems rigged against us. I think one of the unintended or maybe intended consequences of traditional feminism in our country has been that women have to be in the workforce and at the exact same rate that men are and in the same positions that men are in as well. And because of that, you now see that 62% of college graduates in America are women, 62%. And on average, women are starting to outearn men. So tell me about the wage gap another time. But we're making more money, so it's more of a financial difficulty for mom to stop working than it is for dad to stop working. And that's putting so much pressure on so many young families today. How do you think we get out of that? And do you have a message to anyone in politics about this being a huge problem priority for you, even if it's not traditionally the more conservative thing to talk about?
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Sydney
I will say, although I do want to be an airline pilot in the dating sphere, I do express that I want my husband to be able to support my family independently. I think that women should have the opportunity to work if they want to. Like, that's my passion, and I want to be able to chase it. But I should also have the option to stay at home with the kids and us, not be in a financial crisis. And so I think that's important to express as well and just holding firm in those values also.
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Emmy
And you know what? I would say that's feminism. Being able to support another woman's decision whether she wants to have kids or not and still be supportive of that. That's one thing I see, especially in the movement out there is that, like we said, if we want to have kids, it's gonna be like, really?
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Eve
Is that your dream?
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Isabelle Brown
Yeah. They claim that this is about choice until your choice is wanting to have kids. Are you guys getting that message right now from the voices around you? And what does that usually sound like?
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Eve
Like, yes, I am getting that a lot, especially because I'm the kind of person. I was like, oh, I want to get married after I'm done with college. I want to be able to have children. And I'm telling people I have type 1 diabetes, and they're like, oh, well, you probably won't even be able to have a kid, so. Oh, you have a thyroid condition as well. Yeah, you probably won't even. So why even try? So you should just continue on in your career. And that is just so hurtful, especially to women who are facing infertility. And I don't know if I'm infertile yet, but that is just so awful. And I just think that that is something that. That's such a sensitive subject, and I think that that's not something that we should take lightly. And I appreciate the pregnancy centers. And now I think there's a Catholic hospital in Nebraska that's helping Women with
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Isabelle Brown
fertility, they're doing the institute, they're doing really great work.
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Eve
And I just think that pregnancy centers and I think that our politicians need to talk more about that and about how we can help these women out and being able to, to combat that message of, hey, it's okay, like you can have a kid or maybe you can, maybe you can get a surgery. The protesters are loving another.
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Isabelle Brown
We got our sirens going. If you could go out and talk to them right now, which sadly we used to be able to do very easily, like three, four years ago in the conservative world. And obviously the last nine months or so have really turned all of that on its head to talking with people that you disagree with. What would you go tell those women about why you're here?
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Emmy
I wouldn't be nasty to them. I would, I would want to get down to the root of the problem. I know we bash a lot on sociology, but I actually enjoy sociology when it's used in the right way, like getting to the root of the problem in society. And so deep down I just want to ask these women, like, are you happy? Does this make you happy? When you're going out, you're hooking up with people, does that make you feel good? Because I know the answer. I've bought into the culture and it made me miserable. And so I just generally, and I want to approach it with kindness because I know some of these people are really struggling and this is what they think is going to help them. And I don't think it's gonna help them. And so, you know, I would just love to have a one on one conversation, maybe like not filmed, and just normalize that. Don't do it for the camera, don't do it for the likes. Don't exaggerate anything because you know it will go popular, go viral. Just really have a one on one conversation with them and find a middle ground.
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Isabelle Brown
A lot of people in the political world are saying that young women are just overwhelmingly leftist and we should just write them off, that there's no hope for any sort of changing of your mind or conversion of your values. I don't think that's true. I see this conference and how much it's grown as living proof and a testament to the fact that the opposite is true. But what do you think we've been missing in this conversation? To reach young women in a vulnerable and honest, authentic and loving way. To encourage them not to buy into the lies of modern feminism, but live more boldly in another lifestyle.
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Sydney
Get back to the scripture. I Mean, each and every one of us have, has an incredible calling. And I mean you were knit together in your mother's womb and like the Lord loves you more than you can ever imagine, sent his son to die for you. And so like, don't gloss over that. Like wake up to the joy of salvation and your creation every day and just live out your God given purpose. I think when you really just get back to the Bible and reading what the Lord says about you, it's so empowering and it just equips you to defeat any lie that the enemy might be throwing your way because that's what it is. I mean this stuff that we're seeing is so degrading and it's lies from the enemy, it's attacks on character and it's attacks on our, I mean God given abilities and you know, passions and callings. So just delight in the Lord every day.
- [29:01]
Naomi
I love that.
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Eve
Anybody else, I think to touch on also on Ali's speech yesterday because it was just so amazing. But God uses broken people all the time to live out his mission. And people always think, oh, it's just the men that he used. He used Ruth. Ruth is now in Jesus line through Boaz. So amazing. He used Rahab to be able to help. And it's just there's so many beautiful Mary. Mary is such an amazing person. She literally created our Lord and Savior and she trusted in the Lord and his plan. And I just think that's so beautiful and kind of just to touch on what she's saying that just remembering that we have value. Proverbs 31. I mean we, God knows, I mean, he says we're out in the fields, we know how to bargain, but we're also at home and we're the heart of our home. And I think that's just so beautiful that yes, our husband or our future husband is the head of our home, but we're the heart he's supposed to come home to.
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Isabelle Brown
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Emmy
I would say because I love women and I'll support your choice to do your dream career or I'll support your choice to have a child and I'm not going to force you to do anything. But I will tell you the truth and all the truth because I love you and I think that's what we need to do as women start telling each other the truth. Stop with the cancel culture. Say maybe you made a mistake in your life, but you're redeemable because we know we are all made redeemed. So I would say that that's what I just love women.
- [31:39]
Sydney
I love embracing femininity. I mean, whenever I go fly, I have a pink mic cover. Like, come on, I've worn a tennis skirt before. Embracing the joy of being a woman is so life giving and I think that it's sad when we are just trying to get farther and farther away from that and so truly embracing your passion and being a woman. Make it fun and girly. I think that's so important and so life giving.
- [32:06]
Naomi
I think being a woman is such a special gift too. And it's something that we take for granted so many times. And yeah, like you said, I love getting to dress up and wear my heels and cute dresses and skirts. Like it's just so fun. And girlhood is something that's so special too. And so like just being a woman is so cool and we can do so many amazing things. I mean we literally like create living beings. Like that is. Men can't do that.
- [32:35]
Isabelle Brown
Amen.
- [32:35]
Eve
Yeah.
- [32:38]
Naomi
So it's just so special. And it's like something so special that we are able to share with each other. And it's a different kind of connection. Like we'll never have that connection with men that we do with women.
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Emmy
It's a sisterhood. It's a girlhood. It's a girlhood.
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Eve
Yeah. Like she was saying, we can produce lives. Although I think James Tallarico would say that we're just neighbors with uteruses. But, you know, that's something else entirely. But I just, I think modern feminism is not giving us. And I just would want. That's why I'm not a feminist. And I think that women can do a lot. And I think that there is nothing wrong with wanting to be a wife and a mother because it's what God has called us to do if we're able. And if not, he has another purpose and a calling for our life. And I just think that's so important. And obviously embrace your femininity. I love. I'm gonna hopefully be a journalist and so I want to be able to spread the truth and be able to show that, hey, yeah, maybe this is a male dominated field, but there are beautiful women out there, not just with leftist values, but with beautiful conservative values who believe that men should be leading and believe that women should be moms, but also they can be out there telling the truth. And I just think that's so beautiful.
- [33:54]
Kaylee
On what you said earlier. Being a woman is not about doing what men can do, it's about doing what men can't do, which I think just makes us way more special, which really connects us. I mean, we can create life and we can do all of that.
- [34:11]
Isabelle Brown
It's incredible, right? And it's being diminished to the point that it's beneath you somehow. It's not worth pursuing. It's gonna disable you in some way, shape or form. And it's worth screaming out on the sidewalk with sirens to try to prevent against for our generation. But I feel so much confidence knowing that there are women like you out there in our generation and that we are seeing the pendulum swing. So thank you for your voices, thank you for your work with tpusa and I can't wait to see what you guys accomplish in your lives.
- [34:38]
Naomi
Thank you.
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Isabelle Brown
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