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Even though it's illegal, has been illegal for a very long time. It appears that members of Congress are personally making tens of millions to hundreds of millions of dollars in their personal portfolios, trading off of information that the average people don't have in the stock market. What did you just say about Nancy Pelosi?
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133 million in profits and she started.
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Trading as a member of Congress. 17,000% return.
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Guys can punish me all you want, but like, you guys are going to be here as fossils. Oh, I'm so out of grace. But they, like, love to hate me, but they still love me.
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I have recently gone down a massive rabbit hole that I can't stop thinking about. And honestly, because I saw it, now you have to too. And maybe I'm really late to the game. Honestly, most of you have probably been paying ATT attention to this much, much, much longer than I ever have. But it turns out, even though it's illegal, has been illegal for a very long time. It appears at the very least that members of Congress are personally making tens of millions to hundreds of millions of dollars in their personal portfolios, trading off of information that the average people don't have in the stock market. And I know everybody's gonna leap out at me in the comments section saying insider trading is illegal. Insider trading is illegal. Well then riddle me this. How are these members of Congress buying and selling stocks at exactly the right opportunity based on the committees that they're assigned to, based on legislation that they are introducing, and making millions in the process? You should not be worth a hundred plus million dollars as a member of Congress. That does not make any sense. And yet here we are, where entire websites and social media accounts and even stock portfolios are based upon trades from people like Nancy Pelo Pelosi. This has recently picked up a lot of steam on social media and in the interview world because some people who have dedicated their entire lives to tracking all of this stuff have appeared on Tucker Carlson's show, on Fox News, and so many others. The main guy tracking all of this being the founder of a group called Autopilot, which I'm like half interested in maybe just throwing a hundred dollars in and seeing what happens. At this point, Autopilot helps you with your investment accounts automatically start investing in the stuff that Nancy Pelosi and company might already be purchasing stuff in. If you look at their website, you can see that they have this whole thing offered to their users, literally called the Pelosi Tracker, which cracks me up. And if you click on it, it tells you that the Pelosi tracker, plus this is like the new version of it, is up 222%. People have invested $478 million into the Pelosi because they want to make the same amount of money that she already has. And I guess the way that it works is it just tracks everything that she's buying. It links your brokerage account, and then automatically it will execute trades based on what Nancy Pelosi is already buying. And it's not a perfect science, obviously, because ultimately, the way that she's reporting this might be a couple of weeks later from when she actually bought this stuff. But people seem to be making, like, a lot of money, like, a lot of money off of trading the exact same way Nancy Pelosi is, which is, at the very least, raising a whole lot of eyebrows and at the most, exposing the fact that even though it's illegal, these people may be participating in insider trading or trading stocks off of information that the average person in the general public doesn't really have access to. As a lawmaker, there are other websites doing basically this exact same thing. One of which that regularly gets mentioned on social media is called Capital Trades, that ranks recent stock purchases and sales from members of Congress to show you exactly when these things happen, when they sell them, how much they're selling them for, what they're buying, how much they're buying them for. It looks like yesterday, Senator Richard Blumenthal, who is one of the people that have gained most of the money in Congress based on these trades, and it notes that his spouse is the one buying most of these socks and selling them, made like 50 purchases and sales yesterday in the stock market. Look at this. So you can see it's his spouse that's buying all this stuff, but it'll track exactly when they reported all of these purchases and sales. Usually it's a couple of days or a couple of weeks after it's happened, like 34 days, 15 days, 27 days, whatever. And it's in all of these insanely different massive portfolios. I don't know. Let's click on the Kirkoswald Global Macro Fund and see what happens here. This is so interesting. I'm wondering what they're actually responsible for. One politician continues investing in all of these things, and it's Richard Blumenthal over and over and over and over and over again. Really? Since last July. Yeah, last July. And continues to be doing all of these things. So this will track various members of Congress. You've got Richard Blumenthal, you've got Michael McCall, who's a Republican in the House, not the Senate from Texas. And he is buying a lot of stocks right now. Like, a lot. He's also selling a lot. Oh, my goodness. How many of these belong to Representative McCall? But capital trades is really popular, so is unusual whales. If you look up the history of Nancy Pelosi alone, by the way, you're seeing that what she's buying and selling are very interesting choices for someone in a position of making the laws. Most often AI companies and technology companies. So you see stock in Amazon Alphabet, which is the parent company for Google. You see stuff for Nvidia or Tempest AI, lots and lots of Apple, Walt Disney Company, PayPal. And it begs the question, are these people making laws that they know they are going to personally financially benefit from? Are they blocking laws from getting passed to protect their financial interests? And why is it possible that we have stricter regulations on people in the private sector buying and selling stocks based on things they know are going to happen than we do for our elected officials? This really, really, really bothers me. Luckily, not all of them are evil. It's interesting to track some of these things and see who's making the most money compared to everybody else. But there are a few members of Congress that have had a lot of fun mentioning some of these websites. I know we have several people from Florida paying a lot of close attention to this. We have lots of people from Tennessee paying very, very close attention to this. But one member of Congress stands out in particular as someone who is just fed up with other members trading on potentially inside information. And that's someone I've known for a very long time, well before she was a member of Congress, Representative Annapolina Luna, who is from Florida. We used to work together years ago at Turning Point usa, and now it's really exciting to see her, as a member of Congress, be completely unafraid to take crap from party leadership on both sides. So now that I'm, like, down this rabbit hole and I'm unable to sleep at night thinking about all of this, I feel like we should go ask a member of Congress what the heck is going on. I mean, I live here, after all. Should we go figure out what they're doing about it? Before we head over to the Hill, though, I want to talk to you guys about something that has hit me really hard. Since becoming a mom myself, I have realized that every decision I make about my health isn't just about me anymore. It's about showing up for my daughter Isla, and Having all of the energy to keep, keep up with her, with all of her milestones that she's hitting right now in her first year of life. And that is a totally different kind of motivation. But in America, we have a problem. And it's not just insider trading on Capitol Hill. Our healthcare system is built to be reactive. You wait until something is very wrong and then you try to fix it. So when you want to take a proactive approach, it can be really hard to know where to even start. That's exactly why I've been partnering with our friends at Jevity who make proactive health easier than ever. Jevoty offers you different membership tiers so that you can choose what fits your specific health needs. They give you an at home comprehensive blood draw that tests over 100 different health markers way beyond what your standard checkup at the doctor's office will ever cover. 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All right, now let's go check on the mental health of the people running our country, shall we? Producer Dean and producer Jess are like my pack mules whenever we go anywhere. It's very nice because truly I used to have to carry all my own stuff and now I just get to enjoy. I just get to take the scenic route, live life to the fullest. But I always feel bad for putting them through the wringer, having to roll around all of my crap. Blessings and love to them. We are in the Canon House office building today, which is a beautiful building and typically right here in the middle is where members will do media hits. Up on the top balcony. You'll see a bunch of lights set up because different members will take the time to join CNN or Fox News or msnbc. But we are here to have a much more chill setup inside of Congresswoman Luna's actual office, which I've actually never been to before. I see her everywhere here in D.C. and I've known her for years, but I've never been to her office. So I was scrolling through X today and I saw the greatest clip of Congresswoman Ana Polina Luna, one of my favorite people in the world, on cnn, talking about her quest to ban insider trading in Congress.
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It was so good.
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You guys have to watch this.
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This legislation, specifically on the insider trading stuff, is vehemently opposed by both parties. Look, you just had Speaker, Speaker, Leader Hakeem Jeffries that said recently that he doesn't want to support it if it doesn't include the executive branch. But I would argue, look, I'm open for negotiations. I'll even talk to the Speaker. I'll talk to Hakeem Jeffries about this. If we had the same standards as the executive branch, insider trading wouldn't be happening. But the fact is, is that it's no question that if you don't necessarily fall in line and it happens in both parties, that they will try to prevent your legislation from coming to the floor, but it doesn't mean that you give up. And so that's, that's exactly why I have this discharge petition of which I will say every single member of Congress, if you've told your voters that you actually fight for them, I don't care what party you are, you need to support this because there's so much happening here on the Hill, so much special interest money, so much lobbying that goes into it, and it's not fair. You can never genuinely advocate on behalf of the American people. And so I will continue to do what I have to do. But I think that this is more not just a single party issue. I think that this is a systemic issue in Congress anyway, because I'm here.
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On Capitol Hill, decided I would wander over to her office and see if we could ask her about her attempt to ban insider trading in Congress and how both sides seem to be taking the news. So let's go check it out. Congresswoman, it always makes me so happy to get to call you that I'm so excited to be here in your beautiful office.
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Thanks.
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And to get all of the tea behind the scenes on everything that's been happening with the legislation that you introduced, for a lot more transparency on understanding Congress's relationship with stock trading, hopefully banning members of Congress from a lot of what we would call insider trading, although that may not be the proper legal term that people witness every single day here on Capitol Hill. Can you give us an overview into our legislation? The end Congressional stock trade?
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Yeah, so I was, the story goes, it's pretty simple. So all last Congress, I'm seeing these people make these massive stock trades. And you know, one of my besties on the Hill, I have two, but one of my besties is Tim Burchett from Tennessee. And so we're sitting there and I think it was unusual whales. And it's just like tracking these stock trades. And there's someone in GOP that made a big trade and someone in the DNC that made a big trade. I'm looking at these trades, I'm like, this is A, not legal and B, it's so insanely corrupt because you have people that are coming in, making, you know, the congressional salary and leaving after a couple of terms as multimillionaires like 10x. And so we got sick of it basically and they kept saying, oh, we'll do something about it, we'll do something about it. That never anytime someone tells you in Washington, we'll do it next time. It never happens. Like next time is that means it's not going to happen. So I was sitting with him on the steps of the Capitol and I said, let's just do discharge petition. And he goes, all right, I'm with you. Like, we got to stop this. And so for those that don't know.
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What is a discharge.
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So discharge petition is basically a tool and it's old school way of legislating. You collect signatures like you're kind of out there with the petition and you have to collect 218 signatures from any member of Congress and it allows you to bring the legislation to the floor manually. Going around leadership. And they hate it because especially with people like me, they can't control things. And it's so crazy because whenever I do these things which are well within my right as a member of Congress are like, you can't do that. I said, actually can. It's in our rule book. Thomas Jefferson put it in there like, sorry, but they're effectively telling us not to represent what our constituents want. And my constituents wanted to ban government corruption. This is literally a part of it. It affects legislation, it affects everything that we vote on. When you have members of Congress personally enriching themselves, Nancy Pelosi, 17,000% return, famously on her portfolio outperforming Warren Buffett, both Democrat and Republican, that engaged in individual stock trades, on average are getting over 600% returns, which is still outperforming S and P. So what ends up happening is we're sitting on the Capitol steps, we introduce this, and of course, our phones start lighting up, and we're getting grilled, and they're just like, you're trying to cost us the majority. And, like, how could you put your colleagues in this type of position? And then other members of Congress that were getting mad because they wanted to, you know, get credit for it, we're like, she just parachuted in and stole her idea. It's like, stealing an idea. You guys aren't doing anything with this. Like, what do you mean? This is.
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I'm just trying to stop having introduced.
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The bill in the first place, or, like, yes. And so, like, I actually did something that was, like, crazy, because I. I just know the ego is up here. And I was like, I'm gonna get a bill that's been filed that's not going anywhere, and I'm gonna introduce that. So I actually called up someone else's legislation, and I just, like, pulled it, put on this vehicle of the discharge petition. And then so they're just like, the minute that that happened, though, it went viral in the media. And so then it kind of boxed them into, like, going on record saying, okay, we're gonna do something with this. So it went from, like, me getting lit up, basically saying that I was gonna destroy my colleague's future and they cost us the midterms, to then I stood up at the Capitol Hill Club and asked one of the White House pollsters how polling was for banning instead of trading. The minute I did, you heard, like, a murmur among the gop. They're just like, gravel, gravel, rumble, rumble. And he's like, oh, this is a wildly popular issue. And then everyone got quiet, and I was like, see, I told you guys this is a. The right thing to do. But also, there's, like, a massive incentive, like, people support it. And then it became, I think, a national thing, where now you're seeing this massive bipartisan support and push. But the thing is, it's actually from some of the members that you would never expect to work together. So it's kind of like that horseshoe in Congress. But just as you have massive bipartisan support, support from within the chamber, you also have huge opposition. And Hakeem Jeffries famously told his members to not support the discharge petition. And they got mad, the Democrats, and they went to the press and they outed Hakeem Jeffries for it. And now we have this bill that's been introduced from House Admin. Brian Stiles actually been championing it. And we actually have a very good consensus bill. It's not as popular as the one that I introduced and the one that we worked on collectively together, but that the one that we had. The reason why it did not get support from the conference is because it would force members of Congress to sell off all of their stock. And the agreement that we came to is that if you are, for example, wanting to have a diverse amount of people representing, you want business owners, you want people that were CEOs, and you also want, you know, normal people as well that might not necessarily have that business background. You want farmers, etc. You have to understand that some people, before even getting into office have this as a part of their packages if they are CEOs, et cetera, business leaders. And so to basically punish them for coming into Congress and saying, you must sell your stock. I personally think you should have to because I think optically it doesn't look good. However, I understand the argument there as well. And so the agreement that we came to is that if you get elected to office and you come into a stock, you can hold onto the stock or if you decide to sell it, you are required to do it in a seven day notification window so that you can't have that benefit, you can't short the market. Basically, that's very similar to what happens with some of these Fortune 500 companies. But you cannot, as a member of Congress, your spouse or your dependent child, engage in purchasing any more individual stock trades. And that's a big one. And so that's the legislation that will be voted on around the time of the State of the Union, either before shortly thereafter. And it'll be interesting to see what the Senate does because as you know, the Senate. I'm wildly popular in the Senate right now. That's a joke. So we'll see what they decide to do. But President Trump supports it. So.
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Yeah. What's really interesting to me is the general firing back people will give to this is. But wait, I already thought insider trading in Congress was illegal.
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Really?
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They passed legislation on this in 2012.
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Where the stock Act. Yeah.
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Nope. Where is that happening right now? Why is this needed?
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So it's still happening and these people are still actively engaging in getting information. A lot of them are on committees and of jurisdiction. By the way, isn't it so funny the ones that are so for war, right? Like, we need to bomb the heck out of this country. Bomb the heck out of that country. Boots on the ground, foreign intervention, whatever it might be. You know, a lot of them have massive investments, personally, in a lot of these defense companies that are getting massive government contracts on the very committees that they're overseeing when they know that the bills are coming through where we're doing government contracts, they're making purchases prior. You can see this clear as day. Or like, you know, they're married to Peggy sue from middle of nowhere, that's never sold a stock in her life, and now all of a sudden, she's just like the Wolf of Wall Street. And so that's a problem. And it's going to end. And I'm happy to have championed that. But, you know, I champion these things. I get them over the finish line, I get them there, I get the support. And then they punish me for it because they don't like that I'm going around traditional means of leadership. And I think that that's kind of the funny thing. It's like, you guys can punish me all you want, but, like, you guys are going to be here as fossils and I'm gonna help get other people elected. And we're really changing the institution. So I've championed out two things that are pretty big game changers in this country. One, the Save America Act. Like you saw, I was like, basically like, let's shut it down. Like, I don't care. And then all of a sudden, you saw Chuck Schumer say, we want mass amnesties for all illegals after they lied to their people. They're like, we're not gonna do it. They're totally gonna do it if they win in the midterms. And so we got him to make that admission, and then the president came out supported. I met with the president, he's like, we, you know, we want this through, and so we're gonna work together on it. And so that happened. And then also the banning incentive trading, which were also getting done. So those were two anaisms that we were able to get done.
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It's hugely important. And honestly, it's something that I feel like the average, especially young voter may not be aware of has been a persistent problem here in Washington.
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Oh, yeah.
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On so many different fronts. These are just two really examples that you're dealing with right now. But ultimately, what I hear from one term, two term, three term congressmen who don't end up coming back to Capitol Hill because they fall out of grace.
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With leadership oh, I'm so out of grace. But they, like, love to hate me, but they still love me, so if that makes sense. Yeah, it's important all the time from.
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People who are here for two years or four years or six years, and then they go home is that they ran on things like term limits, or they ran on things like insider trading and making sure that the little guys still represented the constituents who were serving, not party leadership. And then they show up for their first day of Congress. I've heard multiple previous members tell me this, and they're cornered, literally, by members of leadership in both parties to say, we will never allow your legislation to come to the floor. We'll never assign you to a committee. We will make sure that your career is basically dead on arrival if you keep.
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Yeah, they tried to do that with me, and I have a really big megaphone. And then so I started talking about it, and they had to back off. And I'm still talking about it. And so I think it's kind of funny because they're like, we can't exactly shut her up, which I'm sure they'd like to do, but we can't because she has a megaphone. And also, at the same time, she's right. And so a lot of the things that she's talking about are getting national traction, like voter id, like banning insider trading. And she's correct. And it actually does help the party. And it does help. And it's funny, too, because Democrats don't really know what to do with them either, because they're just like, well, we agree, but then we can't agree because it's you, Luna. But then, you know, 80% of their voters do, or 70% of them voters do. So it's kind of funny to see that. But I also think it's not good to come up here with the perspective that you're just gonna be here the whole time. But you can force the vote on these things, but no one wants to do it. Cause they just don't want to upset people. And I'm not saying I want to go run upsetting people, but, you know, if you run on that and you can do it, you should at least try if you're not watching a little upset. Yeah, yeah. You know, I just kind of stir the pot a little bit. And so it's kind of cool because at the end of the day, I wouldn't be doing my job if I wasn't actually pushing the envelope on these issues. And a couple of people that actually helped get Me elected that are now elected to office. They're like, we always love kind of absorbing you because they've known me now for, like, eight years plus. And they're like, you push it just to where it blows up and then you pull off, and then it just, like, does. It creates its own kind of snowball. And I'm like, yeah, so we're having fun. But I do think that those two things, banning and cytotrading and. And the Save America act, which is voter D plus proof of citizenship, will absolutely change the political landscape as we know it. And even if people like myself don't want to come back to office and we want to go out into the, you know, private sector and private life, it will actually change the landscape and the political future for the better to where, you know, you don't have to worry about people cooking the books on elections, and you can actually get good people into office that have those utilities points and perspectives.
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Do you think there's going to continue being that generational shift of values in what's popular with young voters right now is what the party is going to honor here on the Hill and beyond?
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I think that they're shocked at social media up until I got elected, and it was really the Adam Schiff vote that proved it. They were hiding on their legislation or the things that were happening. And then you saw that I famously called out the deal that happened on the floor where we couldn't hold members accountable and, like, literally voting to censure people because they're cutting deals to protect themselves, 100% happened. 100%. They denied it. Hundred. And I promise you, like, it wasn't just me as other members of Congress coming forward because we were so pissed about it. But social media's allowed for a certain level of disinfectant up here, and I think that it's necessary. But again, I mean, it's. It's, you know, I sit on a certain task force that kind of looks into some of these, like, unclassified files, and it's the same perspective in that you have to shine a little sunlight to kind of see what's happening. And so, you know, we find that out with a lot of what we do. So that's kind of my M.O. up here.
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Back to our conversation with Congresswoman Luna in a second. Honestly, one of the things that I love the most about chatting with her every single time is the reminder that not everyone on Capitol Hill is on death's doorstep.
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Okay.
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Yeah. So some of the actual most egregious emails. So like there was one that was. Is circulating of a little girl who is telling Epstein that she's protected by Jesus and they're mocking her for it. And someone was saying, you should come up dressed as Jesus, like before the act and. Or like implying it. That was said by a woman and that woman claimed to be a victim. I say that for a few reasons. There were some victims that did not engage in trafficking children. And they are completely removed from the monsters that some of these other women became. There's also the aspect of at what point does a person, if they're engaged in trafficking as an adult, knowingly, and not just trafficking of. You know, some people try to say, well, but they were teens, A child is a child, but, you know, as young as 10, as young as 11, and they're taking plea deals to testify. And the only co conspirator is Ghaleen Maxwell and she's the only one in jail. When we have seen proof and evidence now in these files that have been released that these other women who are now being given victim status for plea deals are just walking and they're a part of all this. We had other emails specifically, again, the age 10, the age 11 emails. There was one talking about Snow White. There's another one talking about how she had located. The implication was three poor underage children. And one of them was really pretty trafficking. There is one where they're talking about locating the birth certificate for a girl who is Russian, trafficking her into the United States. These were all women doing this. And what I don't understand is this goes back to the initial arrest under Bush. So what the hell was Bush's FBI and DOJ doing? And then Obama had these, they didn't do anything. Biden had these, they didn't do. I mean, at a certain point, maybe it's just gross negligence because a lot happens, but I just don't see that being the case in here. I think that a lot of people didn't know what to do with this. And so they didn't want to touch it. Cause they didn't want to deal with the fallout of everyone involved. But you literally have people around the world right now that are up in arms. People are here, are just like, what the heck's going on with these files? And it's because of the fact that you realize as an elected official that there was a gross negligence that took place in handling of these. This should have been handled like over a decade ago and it wasn't. And so I will say this, what's been so frustrating about this is because I was one of the first elected officials just kind of being like, hey, like what's up with this is that you have this all out now. So the question is what is going to be done about it? And so I think that there needs to be a task force assembled out of the Department of Justice to reopen these files and look to see if these co conspirators that were taken taking plea deals to be given victim status even though they were trafficking can be looked at with potentially being hit with civil rights violations, which there is no statute of limitation. And then in addition to that, if you find proof, which I think that there's a ton of evidence of various people that were engaged in this, who all were these victims working with? Because again, not all victims were doing this. But we've seen specific email on the more egregious emails or specific warning where we know that trafficking was taking place. So who else was involved in this? Do you have names of people that were sleeping with underage girls? What happened to the 10 year old? What happened to the 11 year old? I've seen, unfortunately I was at the DOJ the other day and I've gone out three days in a row and spent a couple hours each day at the computers looking at this. I found redacted CSAM materials and I'm actually in this case glad that the FBI sent over the files to the DOJ already redacted because you have to manually go through and unredact the image. When you're going through the system to look at these files you have to click on the original and I had the audio on so I could hear what it was and then I could see kind of like the borders and you know that it's obviously someone underage and like the size and the makeup of the individual, obviously a young girl. But there was one that I came across and it was an image of a girl whose face was blurred out. So usually that's done for victims. She couldn't have been older than like 9 or 10. And I was sitting actually in there with, with Nancy Mace and I asked her, I said how old do you think this girl is? And she's like very young. And then you see that there is pornography on there. And I was actually glad that I didn't have to see that because I don't want to. It's really A lot to process when you look at that stuff. And so I think that this is the only way to atone for the negligence that happened under previous administrations. And I also understand though, the gravity of this. And I think that it is a delicate topic because there is a gray area. You do understand that, yes, some people are, are coerced into doing bad things. Some people are blackmailed. However, I think that that's the difference between good and evil. And not all the victims did this. There are genuinely victims that were victimized in horrible ways. And I've talked to them and they didn't do this. And then there were the ones that were coerced, and then they became older and then they still chose to do it. And then they were doing it to very young, young children. And that's not okay. And so all of that to say that it's been a very interesting. I mean, I would have to spend like probably a couple years in those files to get like a full grasp on everything. Yeah, there's millions of files. But in just the stuff that I've been able to uncover, then you have this aspect of, you know, people are like, okay, Epstein's foreign intelligence. Well, I did find something interesting and that Jeffrey Epstein. I was able to locate a passport actually declassified under an FBI co conspirator document that I found and actually has an alias that Jeffrey Epstein used. It was Austrian passport, totally different name, and it's Jeffrey Epstein. And so it was looking for his travel, traveled a lot to France using this passport in the 80s, but totally different name, meaning it was an alias. Well, how the hell did he get an Austrian passport under a different name unless he was an intelligence asset? So we know that. But whether or not he was a United States intelligence asset, I don't think so, because I've asked directly, they've said no, but how do you have someone operating in and out. And also too, you have the aspect of. Now you have these files that have been in custody of the US Government. There was alleged evidence destruction under the Biden administration. I got reports of that I can actually walk you through. So this is the passport that was found. Here's the documents. I'm surprised I haven't seen more of this. But Marius Roberts. So this was actually an Austrian passport location. He lived in Saudi Arabia. But this is like a legitimate passport. It has all of the stamps for where he travels. So, like, the question is, is that this guy basically now we have a known alias. Right. And so I looked up the locations the FBI had gotten it, the internal correspondence was like, where is this passport? It was actually in a, I call it a go bag. So it was in a, in like a piece of luggage, I guess, where he also had diamonds, cash, various currencies.
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And this in file for a co conspirator.
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It was an FBI document that listed out co conspirators.
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Got it.
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It was like, that's how I actually found it. And then, yeah, you can see there's an EFTA number and I'll try to get it to you because he's bringing it in. But I mean, literally, in addition to this passport, there was 48 diamonds found. Cash, travelers checks, various things. And so obviously the guy has all the marks of an intel gathering operation. But it's just interesting because I spent a few hours and you know, you're able to uncover this stuff and I just think that regardless of that, you still have this aspect of it does not feel like justice was served with some of these young women. But then the truth is, and this is, I guess the dark truth in all this is that the most egregious emails that came out were from women trafficking other young girls and children. And to me, I just, if you want to get into the human nature of things, like, it's just how could, especially as a woman, you do that? And you know, I'm a mom now and so it is hard to go through this because I'm like, my God, like a 10 year old. Like, it's just. And there was one too that was circulated that was talking about little. I think it was like, little girls have good bodies, but their faces are weird. That was sent by a woman. Another one talking about the littlest girl was the naughtiest. Was sent by a woman. I remember saying, yeah. And so all of that, it's just like. And they were given protection and you know that they're running, you know, the books and the operations for Jeffrey. I just, I don't respect that. And so that's why I think, and I'm going to encourage and I think, I think the DOJ will do it. I genuinely feel that this has been such a monumental thing. And I think to, to deal with what they've had to uncover, I mean they've had to bring these files in from the FBI. They've had to go through this. Then you saw that judge in New York City that was trying to issue the second redaction. Then there was people that were over redacting, but you had over 500 attorneys. So who was redacting and over redacting. What was that done intentionally or not? Because you can't have direct oversight over 500 different people working on this at all times. And so I think that there needs to be definitely a task force assembled for this with law enforcement capabilities that needs to reopen the files.
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Oh, 100%. And it better be a big task force because as you're saying, the breadth of this is just so difficult. I mean, wrap your head around.
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But there's, there's, I think they need to pick off where the FBI left off in New York and look at the co conspirators, bring them in, seek different charges and then say give us names because we've asked for the names directly and we have not gotten those names yet.
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Yeah, this is explosive, obviously. So we'll make time to make sure that we walk through all of these. But in the interest of the Congressman's time, what I'm really interested to pick your brain in in our last couple minutes ties back to your insider trading bill. But I think part of the big explosive revelation of this 3 million document file dump of the Epstein files and where people out there outside the beltway are so deeply emotionally invested in this is it's revealed that we really do kind of live in a two tier society where there is an elite circle of individuals all over the world that truly believes they are pulling the puppet strings to run society and there's nothing you can do about it. There were emails back and forth years before something like Covid between Bill Gates and many other people about the planning of pandemics and how can we get the WHO and the CDC involved in all of these things. There were emails about, I mean Wayfair furniture being purchased. And that was a conspiracy theory from a very long time ago. I'm not really interested in going into the conspiracy side of things.
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Well, I have more of this and just to. But yes, to your point, there is, I call it the donor class. Yes. Yeah, that's what a lot of us in Congress do. Because you have members of Congress and it's kind of like being a racehorse. Sometimes you have people that support you, your donors and your supporters. But a lot of the people were very rich and powerful. And you're seeing it from every, it wasn't just Americans, it was literally every aspect of society globally. And there is that top, you know, 1% and then there's the 1% of the 1% and that's what we're talking about here. But like to just go through kind of, this is the Stuff that I was able to uncover. And this is stuff that I've been able to uncover too, working with some Democrats on this. Right. And this is why it's so disturbing, the permission to kill video. I don't know if you saw that. You have my permission to kill so and so sent by a woman who's now an alleged victim.
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Can you explain the video for those that didn't see it?
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So they didn't show, they didn't attach a video. But these are specific email. I have the EFT numbers and I'll actually be happy to give these to you to link these. But this was. Well, I actually, I can't. So I have the names of the victims on here. So I can't give that to you, but I can give you the EFT number. So the permission to kill email was EFTA01922235. You know, you have age 11. That famous email sent by a victim. There was a blackmail bitcoin video where alleged victims were strangulated that was actually sent to the FBI as a tip. But it also did not seem to be a credible tip. And that's why there wasn't follow up on that one. There was the littlest girls, the naughtiest. That was sent by a woman. The mocking prayer of the little girl sent by a woman. There was another one about again, I think I had laid this out earlier, but about a young beauty queen, three being very poor and one was the prettiest talking about trafficking. That was sent by a woman. The little girls have good bodies, but weird faces. That was sent by a woman. And then a majority of the conspirators are co conspirators. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 were given plea deals and one is sitting in jail. And the other one is Ghislaine Maxwell. There's a very disturbing1. It's EFTA 00509258. It's a Pornhub intro where they're talking about. It was a pornhub website introduction email where they said that they had made the introduction and they're talking about a kid's Social Security card that they're trying to locate in Russia to I could only assume bring to the United States because that was the back and forth correspondence that was sent by a woman, one of the traffickers. And there was also the Snow White costume, one that's kind of explicit. Sent by a woman. And of just the New York case alone that the state of New York brought and the FBI under the Human Trafficking Crimes Unit, they had there, they identified 92 victims.
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Wow.
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Just. Just in, in New York alone. And that's actually the document. It's 00828161. Sam, when you got that, you were able to pull that directly from that file? Yes. Yeah. So that's where that is from. And that's now all been declassified and is online. I don't know if people found that. I actually found that just kind of scrolling through the documents. So, yeah, there's, there's a lot there. And I think the more that we kind of look, the more that you see that there's definitely some second set of eyes that are needed to be looked on this. So, yeah, it's shocking to say the least.
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How do we move forward then with this awareness that we really kind of are living under a thumb of a 1% of a 1%.
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Well, that's, that's, I think, the moral responsibility of every single individual to get involved. And I tell people, you should look at the, the files, you should just stick your head in the sand. You should see what's happening and then you should get involved. Did your member of Congress, are they trying to bring accountability to this? But then also there's this aspect of the doj, which I think they're going to do. And I think that they also are trying to do everything they can at this point to bring out. And if we have any issues with over redactions, immediately they're taking out the redactions, releasing the files. But I don't think that there's enough people there that are split that are able to actually just focus on this. And that's why we're advocating for the task force to go through. Is there over redactions? Are people intentionally being redacted? Who did the intentional redactions? Because I'm telling you right now, there are so many things going on at the DOJ, but 500 attorneys, who is the ones that put the over redactions in place. So I think that there's this aspect of this definitely needs to be sorted. But to be clear, you know, when you had people back in, I was following this since January. No one gave a about this. No one cared. And even today I was in there and no one was showing up because the cameras weren't there. And that's the reality is you have people, they were in committee, some of them, but the doj, I was like, hey, I'm gonna come back over. And they're like, okay, we have computers. It was supposed to be booked out. No one showed up. It's just me and Nancy Mace. And that's the reality that we live in, is that they try to use this to smear the president. He's been exonerated I don't know how many times, millions of times.
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Yeah.
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And then they're trying to pull files from a random FBI tip line. I get people that call my office saying weird stuff all the time. A tip line is one thing. Do you have actual evidence is a whole different ballgame. And if they didn't find any there, there on the tips, then guess what? They're not credible. That's like, no different than me saying, you know, I saw you sell a really big red bridge in San Francisco one time. Like, clearly that's, you know, you're not selling the Golden Gate. But, like, this is the reality that we're in, in some of these tips that came into the files. But then you have the real stuff, and the real stuff is the ones that are being sent from Jeffrey, from alleged victims, et cetera. So it's a lot. And I think once that task force is assembled, if they choose to do it, which I think they will, I think that they're going to be able to reopen, investigate, and then also, I think, bring justice for some of these legitimate victims that had awful things done. And I have questions, too. Where those kids, 10 and 11 years old, where are they at?
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Yeah. In our last few minutes, do you have a message to other members here on the Hill about this, about the Epstein files and. Or about insider trading and some of the other initiatives you've been working on to better serve real people?
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Yeah, these are. These are some of the most bipartisan issues right now in the country. This voter id. These are very, very important issues that should be addressed. And I think, you know, some people were, I think, also afraid of looking at the files and because they didn't want to, like, be, you know, I don't think that they know how to address it. But you can't be afraid of that if you're being. You're supposed to represent and serve. And so I just. I think people need to just remember what you're up here to do.
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Very grateful for you, my friend. Reminding everyone here of that every single day you have to head home to Florida. Happy, warm place. Yeah.
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Not the swamp. Not the swamp. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you.
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One of my favorite TV shows in the world is the West Wing. They just don't make TV like that anymore. And in one of the Very first episodes, the Deputy Chief of Staff Josh Lyman says, ugh, I'm just so sick of Congress I could vomit. And that was. That pretty much sums up my exact feelings related to Congress. I've been asked if I would ever run for Congress like multiple times, especially in Colorado, where I grew up. I don't think you could pay me all the money in the world, but I'm grateful there are amazing freedom fighters out there, like the beautiful Congresswoman Luna, because we need people here, like, desperately producer Jess, carrying our stuff. How's it going? The queen of the hour Dean ran into some of his old co workers here on the Hill, which was fun. It's a beautiful day in Washington. Maybe if we're really lucky, we'll be back here in a couple of weeks for the State of the Union. Fingers crossed. That is like literally my super bowl every year. You guys might not know this if you're new to following me. I live stream the I say the Super Bowl, I live stream the State of the Union and live react to it every year. The only way I wouldn't do that is if I was in attendance in the audience myself, which is on my DC bucket list. So it's on February 24th. You never know. Okay, that was actually like explosive revelation. So as we posited on my episode the other day, and as Michael and Matt beautifully posited as well in their own episodes the other day, it is incredibly odd how many emails in the Epstein file drop involved this person emailing back and forth between presidents and leadership and prime ministers of other countries. As we pointed out, there were emails back and forth related to Israel, Dubai, Saudi Arabia, Russia. I'm forgetting many others, but countless other countries all at exactly the same time. And so people are wondering if Jeffrey Epstein has been an intelligence expert asset, and if so, what country was he working for? We just finished our interview with Congresswoman Luna, who's been a dear friend of mine for a long time, and she's kind of headed up the declassification efforts of a lot of these different things from the congressional side. So the JFK files, the MLK files, and of course the Epstein files. And she said that at her trip to the DOJ this week, she got a chance to just go scroll through the unredacted versions of everything. This has now been unredacted. So you can go look this up as well and I'll show you the file numbers to look up. But while she was scrolling in a different email that was listing potential co conspirators she found pictures of an Austrian passport for the country of Austria. And the person listed in this passport is appearing to be an alias of Jeffrey Epstein himself. Obviously, that's him in the photo, but the name in the passport is Marius Robert. He says in his Austrian passport here that he lives in Saudi Arabia, which is incredibly interesting. And there's also pages of this passport that have stamps on them. Travel back and forth to France mostly, but there are a couple of other stamps related to Saudi Arabia and other countries. So you can go through and see all of the countries that Marius, Marius Robert, AKA Jeffrey Epstein, or who knows, from Austria, currently living, according to these emails in New York, Southampton, New York, was visiting. The email back and forth is really interesting here. Apparently this was found, like, in a suitcase, in a trunk or something alongside massive stacks of cash. Nearly $73,000 in cash. $100Amex. Travelers check 48 different diamonds with appraisal sheets attached to all of them in this suitcase trunk that all of this was found in. And they compare the US passport of Jeffrey Epstein to this Austrian passport. Begs the question, how does an ordinary American citizen get an Austrian passport for a different name? Questions that we deserve answers to. I don't know. It's weird. And if you guys want to look this up for yourself, the file numbers here are the EFTA numbers. This is what you can search in the DOJ's Epstein database to figure all this stuff out. Very bizarre. Okay, we're going home to play with some of these search engines that are tracking all the members of Congress's stock trades. But I asked my team while we're in the car to play pull the top 10 biggest wealth jumps from members of Congress and their percentage of returns since they've become public servants. What did you just say about Nancy Pelosi?
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133 million in profit since she started.
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Trading as a member of Congress. 17,000% return. $133 million. Must be nice. Our poor, lowly public servants. $133 million. Okay, who else? And the average across members of Congress is 600% of the S&P return or 600% returns, which beats the S and P by like. Can I just express that? They purposefully. These people fund our education system, our public education system, and they purposefully teach us nothing about financial literacy. They never teach you how to buy a single stock, ever. And then they turn around and have on average, a 600% return on investment for their stocks when they. They are in public office. I'm just pointing that out at the end of last year, the top 10 congressional traders, the people making the members of Congress who are making the most on their personal stock trades. Representative Gil Cisneros, who's from California. He has made 527 stock trades and almost $18 million. Nine is Representative Cleo Fields, a Democrat from Louisiana. Made 185 total stock trades to make $20 million. This was during one year, by the way, one year period. Number eight was Nancy Pelosi, Democrat from California, made 12 trades to make $27 million in 12 stock trades in one year. Seven, Senator Dave McCormick, a Republican from Pennsylvania. 200 trades for about $29 million in a year. Six. Representative Darrell I think it's Issa Isa. There you go. Republican from California. One trade worth $30 million in one year. Number five, Representative Jefferson Shreve, Republican from Indiana. 617 trades worth $30 million. Number four, Representative Josh Gottheimer, a Democrat from New Jersey. 420 trades for $45 million. Three, Ro Khanna, Democrat from California. 3923 trades worth $56 million in one year. Number two, Representative Michael McCall, Republican from Texas. 1029 trades worth $75.52 million. And number one, any guesses, any guesses who made the most money from Our team in 2025 for stocks team, his name, Senator Richard Blumenthal, Democrat from Connecticut. 406 trades. He made $80 million last year. Eight, zero million dollars in one year. So great. Okay, and then if you zoom out past just 2025, by far the person who has personally profited the most from insider, what we appear to assume is insider trading allegedly in Congress, is Nancy Pelosi. She has a almost 17,000% return on investment. That is not coincidence. She has beat the market by 581%. Ah, let's see what she's purchased stock in. Nancy Pelosi has made a 16,930% return on investment, blasting past 2,300% for the Dow Jones over the same period of 37 years. Yeah, it actually really hurts, by the way, when you start thinking about the fact that Nancy Pelosi, I'm not even making this up. Was born before the invention of the microwave oven. She was born before Pearl Harbor. She's been in Washington for longer than twice the time I've been alive. So great. So great. January 2025, she purchased an AI stock with 50 tempest. AI. Sorry, tempest AI. She purchased 50 call options at $20 strikes valued between $50,000 and $100,000. That stock surged more than 150% in 2025, a clear case of what they call the Pelosi effect. Stocks often jump when her trades are disclosed. I wonder why Microsoft In 2021, she exercised options to buy 15,000 Microsoft shares at $130. This move came just 12 days before Microsoft announced a $22 billion contract with Broadcom. In June 2024, she purchased 20 Broadcom call options at 800 stock I can't talk strike price just weeks before the company's 10 for 1 stock split. She later exercised those options, purchasing 20,000 shares at a 71 discount to market price. The stock has more than doubled, generating potential gains exceeding $3 million. In November of 2023, her husband purchased 50 Nvidia call options for approximately A$88 1.88 million. By mid 2024, those options had ballooned to 5.83 million, delivering nearly $4 million in gains. And Google of course. In 2021, Paul Pelosi's 40 Alphabet call options converted to 4,000 shares, producing approximately a 5 million dollar windfall. The Pelosi's have bought Google repeatedly across multiple multiple years. Alphabet currently represents 14% of their total stock portfolio. Must be nice is all I'm saying. People. New Year, new me. Cute, but how about New Year, new Money? With Experian you can actually take control of your finances. Check your FICO score, find ways to save and get matched with credit card offers giving you time to power through those New Year's goals. You know you're gonna crush start the year off right. Download the Experian App based on FICO Score 8 model offers an approval not guaranteed. Eligibility requirements and terms apply subject to credit check which may impact your credit scores. Offers not available in all states. See experian.com for details. Experian.
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