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When trump everything he campaigned on i believe he wanted to do and now he's doing the exact opposite thing of.
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I don't know what he's done yeah exactly to your point if you tell me it's easier for me to believe you you wanted to do all these things if any of them were happening in the way that you said they.
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Were to that point like there'll be people that like they'll dm me be like you see what you see what your boy doing you voted for this i'm like i voted for none of this he's doing the exact opposite of everything i voted for i want him to stop the wars he's funding them i want him to shrink spending reduce the but he's increasing it it's like everything that he said he's going to do except sending immigrants back every and now he's even flip flopped on that.
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Oh boy political commentator and complete expert on fiscal policy policy andrew schultz is clearly right donald trump is doing the opposite of everything he ran on what world are these people living in i don't understand what country you are living through right this very second or what media you're consuming probably msnbc or cnn but donald trump is doing quite literally every single thing and more that he campaigned on but because andrew schultz is now upset that all of a sudden trump is a conservative shocking information you all should be upset too mostly what the piece from rolling stone is focusing on is immigration policy which i find really interesting and this is joe rogan's specific question qualm against donald trump he had this to say about rounding people up at home depot on his podcast.
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The trump administration if they're running and they said we're going to go to home depot and we're going to arrest.
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All the people at home depot we're.
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Going to go to construction sites and we're going to just like tackle people at construction site i don't think anybody would have signed up for that they said we're going to get rid of the criminals and the gang members first right and now we're seeing like home depots get raided like that's crazy.
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Not to be crass are we shocked that we're raiding a home depot i mean this has been like an open secret for a long long time right i feel like i'm being gaslit into being the crazy one now of course they're raining home depots and aiden ross in particular is just embarrassed that he ever got involved in politics to begin with and this is the message and that all young men need to take away from the podcast bros that it was a mistake for any young man to even care about this to begin with listen to this i had a call.
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With somebody my team can i tell you guys something now that i look back on it i really really wish i never got into like politics and i feel like that's a that's a cool thing to like talk about obviously it's like you know i i i just kind of like i know y' all didn't like that error at all except for the trump like stream obviously at the end of the day was the president like but like now that i look back at it's like damn like so many people just tie me to it and now it's just like like no matter what they don't even get to know who i am because they don't like even want to oh you did this room with trump ah you go what i'm saying like and i really really understand other people's side and as i'm getting older i'm just like seeing like i just don't think i'll ever care enough again for any other politician ever in the future just because it's like at the end of the day bro like humans we're all humans you know and it's we are.
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All humans but i just won't care you just shouldn't care no one should care i don't think that that's hitting the mark period at all with this generation and with where the country is at so using twisted specific sound bites from four different podcasts now the media is doing everything they can to think that you should also be following the same abandoned ship pipeline of maga conservatism i find it really really interesting and personally fascinating that the media is immediately pouncing on these few clips and specific people to create this web of concrete evidence that young men are universally abandoning ship to abandon conservatism to abandon maga to leave trump behind and to sprint back to the left or not even back to the left in the words of aiden ross to just stop caring about politics because as i as i get older i realize that we're all just people and we should just stop caring about who the president is we should just stop giving an fuck about who we're voting for or what's going on in our country it is so wildly out of touch and it just goes to show how little the mainstream media knows about actual young men and the temperature of the united states of america today um newsflash rolling stone and company aiden ross and andrew schultz and theo vaughn and joe rogan never once claimed to be conservative let alone identify themselves as the face of the conservative movement the poster child for maga they literally just had trump or vance on their podcast once and sat in the audience at the inauguration that's it that's all they did the line from that to maga is like saying bernie sanders or aoc was sitting in the audience at the inauguration and therefore bernie sanders is now the maga apologist for the united states and on that note literally joe rogan has previously outwardly supported bernie sanders for years this is not new information but the media is so shocked to discover that aiden ross and theo vaughn and joe rogan and andrew schultz people who never once claimed to be conservative are now not conservative it's mind blowing how wildly out of touch these people are it is wild to me how we've been told that vegetable oils like canola and soybean oil are the healthy choice when actually seed oils are the enemy people they are highly processed industrial products for thousands of years people have been cooking with natural fats like beef tallow lard and butter but somewhere along the way we've allowed ourselves to be convinced that these are suddenly dangerous for our health what really bothers me is learning that many of these seed oils were originally developed for industrial uses canola oil in case you didn't know actually started as machine lubricant during world war two and now that i have a baby i am even more intentional about what i bring into our kitchen we have switched to cooking everything in grass fed beef tallow it's what our great grandmothers would have used and honestly it makes everything taste that much more incredible it feels so much better knowing that my family has something to cook with that's actually been part of human nutrition for generations instead of just repurposed industrial byproducts plus beef tallow is packed with fat soluble vitamins minerals and healthy fatty acids if you are ready to go back to basics just like our family is you can give golden age beef tallow a try go to goldenagefats dot com isabel and use code isabelle for twenty five percent off your offer that's goldenagefats dot com isabel and code isabel for twenty five percent off your first order steven crowder tweeted out this article and the headline from rolling stone and then provided a little bit of his own commentary which i thought was really interesting so i'll pull that up for you here the manosphere he said isn't turning on trump the people that are turning on trump never had a conservative bone in their bodies they never claimed to be conservative and also these people never had the stomach to do what is needed to actually fix america we can't let up great take i totally agreed with this take when he tweeted it out but the responses to steven crowder's tweet were really telling to me about just how far the media is missing the mark this person says ah yes theo vaughn and aiden ross the backbone of the right wing movement maga is finished it's done pack it in donald trump you might as well just vacate the white house now because your biggest apologists on planet earth theo vaughn and aiden ross are upset with how you're handling like two policy issues total side note by the way i know it is almost entirely progressive young freelance ladies left who are writing for rolling stone these days but no normal actual adult human male outside of vegan coffee houses and ear gauge shops are using the term manosphere nobody uses that word except for the media and they are just desperately trying to lump in the joe rogans and the theo vaughn's of the world with the andrew tate fresh and fit podcast red pill alpha male bro movement when they quite literally could not be in more different universes i have said this for years but the legitimate manosphere not what rolling stone is talking about but this alpha male red pill bro thing those people are also not conservative at all despite having red pill in the name they just regurgitate the exact same scripted talking points that left wing radical feminism says to women just oriented to men while radical feminism tells women never get married marriage will ruin your life sleep with as many men as possible because that's empowering to people your career should be the number one priority in your life children are going to hold you back and destroy your your image and reputation the red pill bros are also saying that to men that women only steal all of your money through marriage so don't even bother getting married the only way to exert your dominance as an alpha male is to have children with as many women who are unrelated to each other as humanly possible like spread your seed or whatever crap they're spreading on the internet these days make sure that you don't have to pay child support or alimony because that takes away your identity as a male and the only thing you should be spending money on is is not your wife and children it's buying the sixth lamborghini sitting in your garage from your ridiculously high paying corporate job that sucks your soul out it's the exact same thing and there is nothing conservative about either male podcasters not in the manosphere a la theo rogan and joe rogan theo vaughn and joe rogan and andrew schultz and aiden ross people who just like were interested in interviewing trump but don't talk about politics or the legitimate manosphere anyway side note for another time but we'll get back on track here what rolling stone and nbc news or anyone in the legacy media apparatus is totally missing the mark on and doesn't seem to get at all is that if if there is any frustration at all with the trump administration among young men it's not that they're abandoning conservative principles it's that young men are frustrated that the trump administration isn't doing enough to bring to life the conservative agenda like do more please this was also one of the responses to steven crowder's tweet from matt graham he says our problem is that trump isn't doing enough not that he is doing too much and it's not just young men espousing this idea young women are saying the same thing in steven crowder's comment section from erica see she says some of us are starting to turn on trump because he's not going far enough and we are much further to the right than he is it is certainly not because anyone is entertaining voting for the left or that's the message that they're trying to send fascinating whether you're happy with the trump administration or you're not for whatever reason the general temperature of real people not internet podcast bros among the country is that we are not conservative enough as a society we haven't deported enough people we haven't shut down the education department fast enough we haven't fired enough federal workers we haven't cut taxes enough we haven't defunded planned parenthood enough these are all common complaints that i am hearing from you guys in our comments section from conversations i'm having on college campuses and mostly among young men so why is the media now so obsessed with trying to convince young men they're all abandoning trump and you should too i've noticed that we do this thing on the right every couple of years where somebody really famous a major celebrity or athlete somebody with a huge platform starts to align themselves with a singular conservative idea or a singular republican candidate and then everyone gets stars in their eyes really really quickly thinking that they are the new mascot for the conservative movement and we all just start clapping seals like yay this person is the face of maga now or the face of the conservative movement now when that person never claimed to be conservative in the first place and then a few months down the road after we've all adopted them into this movement and made them like the shining star of right wing politics that person decides they're still a liberal never claimed to be conservative to begin with and then everyone gets all disappointed we get completely let down and everybody's angry that that person is who they always were the entire time but what the media doesn't seem to grasp and what i think often we don't often seem to grasp is that our entire movement in the conservative movement in america has been built brick by brick by real people not by celebrities by real people because the entire celebrity and legacy media apparatus has been completely one hundred percent saturated with left wing people or rhinos the only reason we have a conservative movement of podcasts or groups on campus or speaking tours or whatever you might have been involved in in the last few years is because there was no home for genuine conservative people anywhere anywhere on our college campuses in our churches in the entertainment industry in the media and for a long time even in politics and now that that's become way more mainstream because of the die hard efforts of real people throughout the past decade or so now everyone's quick to attach celebrities to it but don't make the mistake of thinking that those people are the face of maga or those people are the face of conservatism it is the people behind the scenes that are the face of conservatism so i don't know who needs to hear this at rolling stone and company or any other major news outlet trying to persuade you to think that the podcast bros are quitting on trump so so should you to the writer of this piece no one not one person is watching theo vaughn or aiden ross to formulate their deepest held values or to change their mind on faith and politics no one they might be watching them for entertainment purposes or for a good laugh but no one is sitting down watching a gaming stream from someone on twitch thinking this is going to change the way i look at the world this is going to change how i go to church this is going to change my deepest held opinions on who should run for president who i'm registered to vote for etcetera fortunately young people and young men especially have had actual real people to listen to that have transformed an entire generation all at once and young men are not cooling on maga or cooling on conservatism at all they are only marching further and further and further into based territory as courageous men have embraced the call to tell the truth to an entire generation it's obvious to me that we've been living in a time where truth feels dangerous and silence comes comes at a cost for our society that's exactly what happened to a young mom named victoria she walked into a planned parenthood clinic scared and desperate facing a crisis pregnancy and was handed like millions of other women the abortion pill the weight of regret hit her so hard she even considered ending her own life but by the grace of god she found a preborn network clinic where compassion broke through loving staff helped to give victoria real hope and helped her save not just her baby's life but but her own as well the truth about pregnancy is that you're not just carrying a clump of cells or random tissue in your body it is a human being worthy of our love our support our dignity and our protection this is why truth matters now more than ever before because when a mom sees her baby a real baby not just a clump of cells on an ultrasound lives are saved for just dollar twenty eight we can keep providing that truth through through free ultrasounds for moms in need this is your chance to make a difference that echoes into eternity will you pick up the call pick up your phone and dial pound two hundred fifty and say the keyword baby that's pound two 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are becoming overwhelmingly based i wrote a book about this over a year ago my book the end of the alphabet how gen z can save america came out in march of twenty twenty four we went on every major news outlet possible every radio station every podcast every tv network and even conservative media was like yeah that's a nice pipe dream that gen z is so conservative but when pigs fly i guess and then we all saw the avalanche the avalanche of support from young people mostly gen z men that decisively delivered a victory to donald trump and overwhelmingly is reshaping the face of conservative politics in america all of that has been happening for a very very long time this shift generationally back to the right and it is all because of real people who simply had the courage to tell the truth to young men the voice of a generation is not theo vaughn on a comedy podcast which is funny and entertaining and i like that content it's not andrew schultz laughing with a bunch of bros about stuff guys talk about that's good content and i'm glad people have that for entertainment it's not people watching live streams for gaming or even listening to a multi hour long joe rogan interview those things are entertaining and they are interesting but what has transformed the values of an entire generation of young men are not those people it's the charlie kirks and the matt walshes and the michael knowles and the tucker carlson's of the world that have been planting seeds for the last decade on their specific message for young men that has gotten us to where we are at in twenty twenty five no one did this better make no mistake about it than charlie kirk who consistently gave the same advice to young men and i think is becoming louder even now after he is dead.
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My great hope is the spiritual hope that the young men that are lost and if any young man is listening to this right now like stop stop watching porn stop you know smoking weed stop drinking endlessly find yourself back to church that will reorient your life i agree and do what the church tells you to do find a woman marry her provide have more kids than you can afford that's my advice for young men yeah.
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Name me a single red pill podcast bro that is saying that on their podcast newsflash they're not they're not but it's the courage of people like charlie kirk to say that to young men knowing that that's the craziest most radical outlandish line of suggestions you could possibly have given to young people over the past few years stop watching porn go to church get married have more kids than you can afford take ownership over your health have responsibility for your life your life is your fault and that's a good thing actually because you have the jurisdiction to change your world and the world around you and because of the courage of people like charlie kirk and others in the conservative movement we're now seeing those values come to life you will not hear the andrew schultzes of the world telling you those things but you will hear matt walsh tell young men those things.
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In general we have to encourage as much as we can encourage young people to especially young men to be bold and to go out into the world and get married and have kids and even though there are a lot of risks involved there are more risks today in doing that than there would have been for our grandparents there are more risks than there should be and that's part of living in a declining civilization is that doing things like that it makes you vulnerable that's true but especially when you're young that's a time for risk taking for intelligent risks we don't want to be reckless with our risks but taking intelligent risks and going out and getting married and starting a family it is a risk but it's a smart risk and it gives meaning to your life because i think that's a lot of what we're missing a lot of what feeds this is there's a collapse in meaning people aren't they don't they don't know where to look for meaning and for purpose in.
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Their life how can you find meaning or purpose live boldly take risks do what everyone is telling you not to do don't just follow along with what's popular be radically countercultural and when people tell you not to get married go get married anyway when people tell you not to have children because it's destroying the planet or taking away from your bank account or making you set up to have to pay alimony for the rest of your life and child support go have more children than you think you can possibly afford that's not the manosphere that is the young male revolution that we've seen play out in the last few years and it's not just podcasters look at athletes like harrison butker giving similar advice to young men i'm very passionate about encouraging men to be courageous to not be afraid to be.
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The leader it's something that we struggle.
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With i think a lot of times.
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To go outside of our comfort zone and say you know what god has called me to be a leader and to lead by example i'm going to.
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Lead my household and i'm going to.
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Lead outside the world when i'm evangelizing.
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So that's something that i'm very passionate about.
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Be a leader be courageous practice virtue lead yourself lead your family lead your world god i'm so grateful that we have courageous voices like this because this is what is transforming society day by day by day i didn't remember this until recently but way back when in twenty eighteen when i was an intern in the trump white house as a college student they did this little like mini speakers series for us as white house interns where they brought in senior cabinet officials or senior staff at the white house to talk to us about leadership skills or career development and just helping to get our feet in the right direction as we graduated from college and moved beyond this internship hopefully to take on new jobs in government like many people did and randomly in the midst of all the cabinet secretaries coming to talk to us and like really high people in the administration the white house internship program in twenty eighteen brought in tucker carlson for an afternoon i don't even know if he remembers that he did this but i was sitting in the audience and he brought himself the white house brought him in to talk to about one hundred fifty white house interns about his advice for their career and how they can use this experience to propel their generation moving forward to all of us new gen zers in college and taking on the world by storm as we grew up and i had forgotten that he said this until i was prepping for today's episode but back then in twenty eighteen tucker upset a lot of people and ruffled a lot of feathers because he looked at all of us white house interns that had the world by the horns and were ready to storm into battle for our careers ready to serve our country in a career sense and a job sense and he said honestly nothing nothing that you are being told in the speaker series matters it doesn't you're gonna have a great job and you're gonna have a great career sure but like everybody's gonna tell you that none of that actually matters in the grand scheme of your life the only thing that matters the only thing is that you go home you go back to college you get married as young as humanly possible way before you think you're ready you have like five kids when you know you can't afford it and you raise them in value and in virtue and i remember hearing so many snickers and laughs and people being like what the heck is this guy talking about this is insane this is supposed to be career development for gen z but tucker got it back then and he still gets it even now this is the message that is resonating with young men today last piece of.
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Advice for young people get married get.
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Married and have a ton of kids i mean get married when you're too young have more kids than you can.
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Afford take a job you're not qualified.
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For live boldly stop getting high stop doing anything that blurs your vision or makes time go faster you're you're going to die before you know it don't waste a second that's the sin is living thoughtlessly and wasting time it's the one thing you can't get back you're going to die before you know it oh i thought i was done crying about this i can't believe he said that to charlie quite recently i think that was at one of the conferences in the last few months wow take ownership of your life stop getting high stop letting everything cloud your judgment and your vision wake up with a clear heart and mind every day get married have children be healthy serve your community and your country that is not the message of the manosphere or red pill bros but it is the message that has successfully transformed changed fundamentally an entire generation it is god fearing christian husbands and fathers who are authentically sharing their stories that have inspired the masses and ding ding ding it freaking worked by the way young men are more based than any generation in modern history not because they voted for donald trump although that's a nice little feather in everybody's cap and something that we're still celebrating from last november no young men are based and conservative because they are looking to conserve their own identity to preserve their values to bring what made western civilization so great forward not at the political national level but individually in their own lives following this exact message from tucker carlson and harrison butler and charlie kirk and matt walsh and all of the other courageous god fearing men of the conservative movement that had the courage to tell young men the truth when it was not a popular thing to do at all there was no bandwagon to jump on like a twenty twenty four election from the podcast bros this was brick by brick by brick for over a decade to get us to where we are now in twenty twenty five thanks to honest and authentic courage and building those little bricks is what has transformed people's day to day lives there was a new piece of information that dropped this week and is going pretty viral over on x that young men are overwhelmingly embracing christianity this is kind of a confusing graph that we'll throw up for you but i think it's important the state of the church young people especially men are leading the culture shift towards jesus gen z in dedicating their life to christ saying i have made a personal commitment to follow jesus that is still important in my life today gen z is up about fifteen points from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty five millennial men out of nowhere are up nineteen points from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty five and it's not just this graph bible sales are hitting record highs in our country church attendance experts are saying is up more than fifteen percent just in the last month since charlie's death countless mass baptisms are happening from the hearts of our college campuses football players at places like ohio state have religion podcasts this is a movement that of course is transforming the tapestry of our society but you're not going to hear it on the podcast bros conversations you're not going to hear it from the manosphere or the red pill alpha male thing these are real people transforming our society and the media is completely ignoring it outside of religion and faith political priorities are dramatically changing among young people as well you guys might remember this story going viral a few weeks ago that republicans are dominating among white zoomers which is fantastic and i think we have another chart for you as well about how young people young men are overwhelmingly embracing marriage and children this is from nbc news it was a decision desk poll among gen z what is important to your personal definition of political success these are the political priorities among young people people were talking about this a few weeks ago saying that this was really bad because women who voted for harris ranked being married and having children at the very bottom but look at what happened for men young men who voted for trump which is overwhelmingly the majority of young men in this country number one priority for personal definition of success is having children number four priority personal definition of success is being married other polls have shown that for eighteen to twenty nine year old men there is a thirty eight point margin ahead for young men agreeing with the statement getting married is important to me by a twenty point margin young men say that they want to get married not just someday but they want to get married in the near future there is a positive sixty three point margin for young men saying owning a home is important to them building your family's story in the united states and a positive three thirty seven point value among young men in america age eighteen to twenty nine not forty five eighteen to twenty nine having children none of that would be possible without the actual boots on the ground grassroots conservative movement that we've seen from the last few years even more shockingly even newsweek even the mainstream media is being forced to admit that young men overwhelmingly want it to be more difficult to to watch pornography gen z men are turning against porn is a newsweek headline from july of earlier this year they found that sixty percent of young men under thirty want to make it more difficult to access illicit content online that's not the manosphere that's not the red pill bros they would probably embrace some of that that is real cultural conservatism built over years by people who had the courage and fortitude to tell young men the truth the media is ignoring it and they genuinely believe that because a handful of male podcasters are saying they're upset with donald trump deporting people from home depot which by the way can we deport some more people from home depot please i'm begging you different conversation for a different time that all young men everywhere are quitting maga conservatism how ridiculously out of touch could these people be even more than this it is undoubtable to me that we are living in a cultural revolution that is happening and is entirely values based in our society not because of the podcast bros but because of the charlie kirks and the matt walshes and the michael knowles and the tucker carlson's of the world and this is what is going to change america i don't think people grasp the severity gosh it's been four weeks today hasn't it that just hit me all at once with what happened with charlie kirk's assassination politically speaking and what this means for the future of our society charlie kirk already was the most important conservative political figure or voice for gen alpha and gen z men and even for younger millennial men as well no one had the societal finger on the pulse like charlie did when it came to what young men were looking for what they needed to hear and what it was going to take to transform this entire generation this generation already spent the last few years saying enough is enough and i don't think the world is prepared for the unleashing of courage that we are about to see from young men and women alike now after his death what i think we can expect in the coming months is a cultural renaissance of faith in god of pride in america and the pursuit of objective truth i think we're about to see a crusade king baldwin moment for what is good and true and beautiful that is fearlessly led by young men and we need it now more than ever before i think we're going to see a lot more men like niza powers authentically pursuing god he is my current favorite creator by far on the internet right now sharing his journey as a d transitioner and walking through his first few months as a christian sharing authentically this experience with his followers on social media this is what we're 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America where are we i've never seen this i've just been really wanting to see a cathedral and i think this checks the box right do you think it's open maybe aren't all churches supposed to be open yeah i feel like all churches should have their doors open all the time so we are at the most beautiful church i think i've.
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Ever seen yeah i've never seen anything.
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This extravagant wow we found an open door i say just.
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Hi and i'll meet you by that first indoor okay thank you so much i'll be right.
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There thank you perfect newport so excited this is amazing god is present here.
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Wow.
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I don't even know what this is but i feel like i should.
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Kneel.
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Wow okay what'd you think of that that was incredible there's something about walking inside of a cathedral is that a cathedral i think so yeah that's got to be if there is something more than that i feel so at ease like as soon as you walk.
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In there it's just like all your worries and everything just go away as.
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Cheesy as that sounds but it's seriously when i walk in i'm like hit with this deafening reverence yeah that just makes me want to literally bend my knee yeah and praise god praise god.
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Deafening reverence can you remotely have predicted in the last few years that we would be watching this person be one of the most effective evangelizers on tiktok millions upon millions upon millions of views someone who lived as a woman for i believe it was twelve years and instead is so moved by the awe and wonder of god that they find themselves kneeling before the eucharist in a catholic church and millions of people seeing this happen in real time resonating with it this is where young men are at in america today rolling stone they're not running away from truth they're not abandoning conservatism they are running sprinting full speed ahead into the heart of conservatism of tradition of sacred honor and reverence of god that's what we're going to see more of in the next few months we're also i think gonna see a whole lot more unabashed pride in america from gen z to a degree that we have not seen in generations i have seen more american flags since charlie died than i've seen in the last several years even after the overwhelming mandate delivered to president trump and the majority vote given to him by the popular vote last november we already were seeing a huge resurgence of americana and flags but i've seen more in the last few weeks than ever before in my entire life and i know that's only getting stronger for teenagers like these students at a public high school football game singing worship songs to jesus and proudly waving the american flag this generation is hungry for jesus i could not have more hope more excitement and more clarity around where young men are at do not listen to the mainstream media when they are trying to gaslight and convince you that young people are overwhelmingly running away from conservatism that we've given up on maga we've given up on donald trump we've given up on religion and we're all going the way of the podcast bros none of that is true and as a little extra nugget of hope and encouragement if you think gen z is based just wait just watch out for gen alpha somebody sent this to me i hope we have this so i can pull it up for you someone said this to me the other day gen alpha is like so more based beyond what even gen z is i can't even wrap my head around it there's a kid like this one every five minutes on my feed someone sent me this channel children are taking to youtube to do political commentary now this guy is called the political kid i am the political kid and yes i am a kid and he's making videos like the future of the republican party and why the american education system sucks look at this kid sitting in front of his american flag he's getting thousands of views on his videos oh i just feel so excited for the future of gen alpha let me tell you what gen z mark my words now bookmark this save this for the future gen z is just the preview this cultural renaissance of western civilization and return to what is good and true and beautiful it's just the beginning gen alpha is going to be the real shift in america because these are the kids being homeschooled by people who got canceled in twenty twenty let's go let's go baby on that note we are covering the homeschool revolution here in the next few days here on the show make sure to catch the episode with the coolest homeschool group in america by subscribing wherever you are watching or listening to the isabel brown show we are on podcast platforms a lot of you guys have sent me questions about that we are on apple podcasts and on spotify so even if you guys like watching on youtube youtube please please please help us continue to grow in our second month of the show and head over to your favorite podcast platform give us a five star review and make sure that you are weighing in on how much you love the isabel brown show over there too can't wait for the rest of this week with you guys and cannot wait to see the future leadership led by young men who are marching us right into the heart of goodness in america in twenty twenty five and beyond see you tomorrow sa.
Episode: Joe Rogan, Theo Von, and Adin Ross Are Over MAGA--Are Young Men?
Date: October 8, 2025
Host: Isabel Brown
In this episode, Isabel Brown dives into recent media narratives suggesting that influential podcast figures like Joe Rogan, Theo Von, and Adin Ross are abandoning Donald Trump and the conservative movement. She challenges the premise that such shifts among high-profile "podcast bros" signal a broader exodus among young men from MAGA or conservative values. Instead, Isabel argues that a grassroots, faith- and value-driven movement is not only alive but thriving among Gen Z and Gen Alpha, driven by figures like Charlie Kirk, Matt Walsh, and Tucker Carlson—not by entertainment podcasters. The conversation spans cultural trends, media manipulation, religion, marriage, and the shifting priorities of America’s young men.
[00:00-04:43]
“The media wants young men everywhere to quit their support for Donald Trump and conservatism because it seems like Joe Rogan and Aiden Ross and Theo Von are all running away as fast as they can. But what they don’t seem to understand is that... young men are not abandoning the right wing, they’re only getting a whole lot more based.” — Isabel Brown [00:00]
[04:43-08:26]
Notable Quotes:
“When Trump… everything he campaigned on, I believe he wanted to do, and now he’s doing the exact opposite thing…” — Andrew Schulz [04:43]
“I really, really wish I never got into politics… as I’m getting older… I just don’t think I’ll ever care enough again for any other politician ever in the future…” — Adin Ross [07:27]
[08:26-15:40]
“No one is sitting down watching a gaming stream from someone on Twitch thinking this is going to change the way I look at the world… Fortunately young people, and young men especially, have had actual real people to listen to that have transformed an entire generation all at once.” — Isabel Brown [19:40]
[15:40-31:29]
“Our problem is that Trump isn’t doing enough, not that he’s doing too much… some of us are starting to turn on Trump because he’s not going far enough and we are much further to the right than he is.” — Matt Graham & Erica C., as quoted by Isabel Brown [16:20]
[25:10-31:29]
Notable Quotes:
“Stop watching porn, stop you know, smoking weed, stop drinking endlessly. Find yourself back to church… find a woman, marry her, provide, have more kids than you can afford. That’s my advice for young men.” — Charlie Kirk [25:10]
“We need to encourage young people—especially young men—to be bold… to go out into the world and get married and have kids. Even though there are a lot of risks involved…it gives meaning to your life.” — Matt Walsh [26:31]
“Get married when you’re too young, have more kids than you can afford, take a job you’re not qualified for, live boldly, stop getting high… you’re going to die before you know it, don’t waste a second” — Tucker Carlson [31:21]
[31:29-39:46]
“Young men are not cooling on MAGA or cooling on conservatism at all; they are only marching further and further and further into based territory as courageous men have embraced the call to tell the truth to an entire generation.” — Isabel Brown [20:32]
[41:46-44:40]
“Gen Z is just the preview… this cultural renaissance of western civilization… it’s just the beginning. Gen Alpha is going to be the real shift in America—because these are the kids being homeschooled by people who got canceled in 2020.” — Isabel Brown [44:00]
Throughout
| Timestamp | Quote & Context | |------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:00 | “Young men are not abandoning the right wing, they’re only getting a whole lot more based.” — Isabel Brown | | 04:43 | “Everything he campaigned on, I believe he wanted to do… now he’s doing the exact opposite.” — Andrew Schulz | | 06:27 | “We’re going to go to Home Depot and we’re going to arrest … like Home Depots get raided, like that’s crazy.” — Joe Rogan | | 07:27 | “I really, really wish I never got into politics… as I’m getting older… I just don’t think I’ll ever care enough again…” — Adin Ross | | 25:10 | “Stop watching porn, stop smoking weed, stop drinking endlessly… find yourself back to church…” — Charlie Kirk | | 26:31 | “Get married and have kids… it gives meaning to your life.” — Matt Walsh | | 31:21 | “Get married when you’re too young, have more kids than you can afford… live boldly, stop getting high…” — Tucker Carlson | | 42:24 | “When I walk in, I’m hit with this deafening reverence… makes me want to literally bend my knee and praise God.” — Niza Powers | | 44:00 | “Gen Z is just the preview… Gen Alpha is going to be the real shift in America…” — Isabel Brown |
Host's Tone:
Confident, fiery, deeply concerned with countering mainstream misinterpretation. Isabel’s style is both anecdotal and grounded in statistics; she mocks media elites while uplifting the ordinary young men and women driving real cultural change.
For listeners:
If you’re wondering whether young men are truly abandoning Trump or conservatism, Isabel’s message is clear: don’t mistake the moods of entertainment podcasters for the pulse of America’s youth. The future is being built day by day by young men leaning into faith, family, and unapologetic self-responsibility—one brick at a time.