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AI Happy Noah Khan Day everybody. I've been up since the crack of dawn listening to this album on repeat. It is no notes Chef's Kiss Spectacular. If you're looking for a weekend to do highly recommend a listening party of the Great Divide greatest album I can remember in recent history. But it's also Friday, which means it is interview day here on the Isabel Brown show and you guys have had all kinds of exciting, exciting topic suggestions, two of which we are going to cover today. As you guys know, I am a part of the amazing Daily Wire family and we've been working really hard behind the scenes on building some incredible new content offerings for you guys. Today we are sitting down with two other members of our Daily Wire family to talk about their new shows and endeavors here at the Daily Wire. First up is the beautiful Reagan Conrad who is about to have her first baby. I'm so, so excited for her here in the next couple of days who just recently announced a pretty big switch up with her content, going more into her roots of investigative journalism and deep dives into some very incredible content. Then we'll be talking to my friend Pavel who normally you guys may know his name as a behind the scenes behind the camera guy who helps make all of our production stuff possible. He just recently launched a show with us at the Daily Wire called Be a Man. And if you've ever wondered why men matter now in 2026, maybe more than ever before, have got to check it out for yourself. First up though with Regan. You guys have been asking me a lot about endometriosis specifically and I have so many friends who are walking through seasons of infertility, they're struggling with particular diagnoses related to their reproductive systems. And I have met so many women in the last few years, in particular dealing with endometriosis specifically. Usually they are given the same runaround treatment. They are slapped on a birth control prescription from their primary care physician or their OB gyn. They want to start having children, but they're basically told it's impossible unless you pay us $30,000 for IVF. And most of the times, women are having to wait 8 to 10 to 15 years to even get a diagnosis of endometriosis to begin with. Reagan has some experience in this in her personal life and just recently covered this on her new YouTube channel, Reagan Conrad, which you guys should go check out. And I decided to sit down with her and ask her all about it as she gets ready to knock off for maternity leave to have her beautiful baby boy. So please join me in welcoming Reagan Conrad. The beautif Reagan Conrad of our Daily Wire family joins us on the Isabel Brown show today. Reagan, you're not in the hospital, which tells me you haven't had your baby yet, but it's imminent. Yeah, it's what I'm hearing.
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It's imminent any second, any hour now. But yes, I'm still here and loving it and honored to be here.
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How are you feeling as a mom to be? You're already a mom in my book, but getting ready for this exciting new chapter of your life?
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Yeah, I'm thrilled.
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It still feels sort of surreal.
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But then my baby will move a certain way and I'll be like, oh, no, there's Stephanie. Definitely a baby. This is definitely happening. Like, it is as real as it gets. Except for the fact of labor. That will feel totally real.
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I wish I could impart some, like, magical wisdom on you about the secret to getting through labor, but I actually think, and a lot of my friends told me this, too when I was getting ready about a year ago. Exactly. My daughter will be one a week from today, which went way too fast. But I remember so many of my friends with kids telling me there is literally no way to mentally prepare for labor until you just do it. And then after that, it's going to be a walk in the park. And every other kid after that, you'll think, I got this. But that first time is a lot to wrap your head around. So we're praying for you and your beautiful family and can't wait for this new chapter of your life. But you also Have a new chapter here at the Daily Wire going on as well. With the launch of your new show, I have been loving all of your content. And for those that have been following along with the comment section, they may not know that this is a new venture that you have undertaken. Can you tell us a little bit about what's changing?
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Yeah, so we have a new channel, it's just called regenconrad, my name. And what we wanted to do was have a place for a bunch of different type of storytelling. Because I have found that when I deep dive certain stories, some kind of determine and kind of require long form conversations. Some of them could be told in a video essay format, some could be told with a mini doc and having to go out in the real world and actually explore something. So then I'm like, okay, how do we put all of those storytelling in one place? And I was like, okay, new channel. It's not really gonna have a name, it's just my name. And it's just gonna be everything that we deep dive. Any kind of reporting will live on that. So I come from like a journalist background. And so the storytelling world, I love that new media is so different right now where we can do multi different formats and that actually works. And so yeah, it's gonna be a
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home for all of that.
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So some of them are gonna be, you know, the mini doc, some of them are gonna be these long form conversations. And I think it's so much fun. It's given us so much creativity to really explore stuff the appropriate way that I think they should be told.
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So I love that. And I will say, as a Gen Z creator myself as well, I feel so creatively stagnated sometimes when we're just expected to do the exact same thing every single day. My content usually doesn't perform as well when I do that. I get stuck in the same loop of just look for the biggest trending story or whatever, rather than trying to create something meaningful. And so we're having a lot of those fun conversations too with my show. And some of our best performing content this last year has been getting out of the studio, going to visit a farm or a homeschool co op or something here in Washington D.C. and I've loved that about your first few episodes that you've put out on your new channel as well. So everybody make sure you go check it out. But you have a new episode specifically about one topic in particular. I am getting so many questions about every single day from our audience and that's on endometriosis Your episode is called the invisible illness that is impacting millions of women. What made you want to talk about this particular subject and what did you find out along the way?
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Yeah, well, I wanted to dive in because I have endo. And I didn't know that until probably midway through last year. I was experiencing pain. I'd had pain my whole life, especially during, like, you know, my period. But I thought that was normal. Everyone says that's normal. Newsflash, it's not normal at all. Had no idea. Which is kind of groundbreaking. But eventually I ended up going to multiple doctors trying to figure out what's wrong, and they found a cyst, and they found out it was an endometrioma, which meant I have endometriosis. And then I went down this whole journey of figuring out, what does that mean? What kind of lifestyle things can I change to help myself? Because I'm also getting into that holistic world of I don't want to be on meds, I don't want to do things like that, but also I have something that's wrong. And the more that I dove in, I'm like, wow, okay, A lot of women have this. This is so normal. If you're scrolling on social media and you see another celebrity that's like, okay, just had endometriosis surgery for the third time, like, something's off here. So many women are dealing with this, or they don't know that they have it and they're dealing with it. And so I went down the rabbit hole myself and thought, okay, you know what? This channel especially is for any kind of deep dives, and this is a deep dive that I've personally been on. So I'm gonna bring my audience on and show this for a lot of women so that we can all learn together. And it was so helpful. I mean, talking to so many different specialists and doctors, it gave me more hope than what I was experiencing with my, essentially, my interactions with the medical industry. Like, I wasn't feeling good about it. Even having had surgery now, I still was like, there's no, what are the solutions? What can we do about it? And thankfully, through a lot of this research and these conversations, they've actually provided some solutions too. So there was just a lot there that I was like, okay, we just gotta. We gotta start somewhere. Because not a lot of women are talking about it, or if they are, they're like, here's the problem. Okay, next. And there's no, like, solution oriented stuff up there.
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I am sorry. So excited for Reagan to become a new mom. And speaking of moms, Mother's Day is right around the corner in case you're not paying attention. And if you're anything like me, finding a gift that actually feels meaningful for the moms in your life can be really, really tough. There are so many options and it ends up just feeling really generic or rushed. Which is exactly why I was so excited to discover our friends at Kexi, A family owned bakery that truly puts so much love into what they do. They have created a special Mother's Day cookie box this year that they have sent me in advance. And it's is beautiful. Filled with the most amazing flavors created just for moms. We love Kexi cookies. I am nothing if not a cookie snob around here. They cannot be crunchy. They have to be the right ratio of soft. It's gotta be sweet, but not too sweet. You know what I'm saying? That's just too disgusting. 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Again, that's Code Isabel for an exclusive 20% off. Yeah, for most of my friends that have endometriosis, I have heard just horror stories from them about what it's been like to go through the diagnostic process. More often than not, they aren't diagnosed for years and years and years and years and years. Like you said, they are told it's totally normal to experience just debilitating pain every single month. Not a normal period cramp or hormonal fluctuation, but like can't get out of bed type pain. And they are usually prescribed birth control pills as the magic solution to fix everything because that will reg your hormones and it masks a lot of their symptoms for a long time. But most of my friends who have had issues with this in the last few years are then getting off the pill after taking it for upwards of a decade throughout their teenage and adolescent years. And now they're married and they want to have a baby and they're realizing they're having all of these problems naturally conceiving a child more often than not dealing with endometriosis. But doctors aren't helping them go through that diagnostic process. Instead, they're just saying, oh, well, everything looks fine on paper. There is no logical explanation. You have unexplained infertility, and now we're going to sell you on IVF so that you can pay us $30,000 per round and make sure that we can just help you scientifically through the process. It feels so exploitative and honestly so demeaning to women who are being honest about the symptoms that they are experiencing. But the big pharma medical complex is refusing to help them go through this diagnostic process and actually get answers for what they are experiencing. Did you have any of that similar journey with your healthcare practitioners? And I'm actually shocked you had surgery so early in the process. Most of my friends, it takes years. Tell us a little bit about that.
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Yeah, so I did. I went to at least three different practitioners who I said, okay, I know I have an endometrioma. We found it. Typically you don't even find them. I only found it because I had a pain on my side that was unexplained for long enough that I was like, something's wrong. I wasn't thinking endo at the time, but I was like, is it stress induced? Is it cancer? You know, you freak out about, like a certain pain. So that's how I found it. So by the grace of God, frankly, I found something that I could have gone many more years and having no idea that it was in there. That being said, though, once I found it and knew that it was an endometrioma, which again, means you have endometriosis, I went to three.
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And really quick, Reagan, for those that are watching who don't know what this is, I don't want to assume everybody knows what endometriosis is. What does that actually mean?
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So part of, like the material that grows inside of the uterus, it mimics that type of material, but it grows outside of the uterus. And unlike what happens in the uterus where it sheds every month, the stuff doesn't shed. So it attaches to different. It can attach different organs. It lives places it's not supposed to live. It can grow into cysts, and it just causes extreme pain and inflammation and things like that. So a lot of different symptoms can come from it, but that's essentially what the material itself is.
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Interesting. Okay, so you found out that you had this, and then what?
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And then I went to doctors and said, I have this.
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We know.
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Here's all the documentation. And I wanna get pregnant. So I'm More concerned that I have this and it's growing in my ovary, so it could kill the ovary, and that's like an imminent threat as well. So knowing all these things, what do I do? And three different doctors looked at me and said, go on the birth control pill.
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And after you just told them you wanted to get pregnant.
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I can't describe the. Like, I was so dumbfounded every time.
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Like, did you hear what I just.
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I just said, I'd like to get pregnant. I wanna get rid of this because I wanna protect my ovaries so that I can continue to get pregnant. And you're encouraging, like, the birth control pill. One woman blew my mind. And again, these are women that were saying. This one woman said, oh, just treat it like Advil.
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What? Treats the birth control Advil.
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And she's like, you can just get on for a few months and then hop off. And I was like, no, no. First of all, that's not how birth control works. It's way more dangerous than that, frankly. You're not just gonna pop on and pop off, but also, it's gonna mitigate the pain. What, for three months? Great. Well, the endometrioma's still gonna be there. You know, it's just a band aid solution. And it was so infuriating to hear that from multiple people.
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Wow, that's shocking.
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Yes.
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So obviously you didn't do that and you wanted to keep getting answers. How did that then progress into surgery?
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So I started talking to women that I know who have it, and I just tried to find out, like, okay, unfortunately from the doctors, I'm getting confusing takes and things that are not necessarily helpful. And finally I found a young girl that was like, hey, have this. And I did excision surgery, and she kind of talked me through the whole process. This is what I recommend. She had multiple failed other types of surgeries. And finally she found the right form, which is excision. There's different versions of it that you can get done. Some are safer than others, and excision is the best and the safest. And so she advised that. And then I finally was like, okay, I'm gonna find a specialist. Because she's like, don't go to neob. It has to be someone who really knows what they're doing, because everyone can do the surgery. That doesn't mean they should be the ones doing it. And so found a specialist in Nashville and kind of went that route immediately. She was like, yeah, you shouldn't go on birth control. You should have the surgery. I'm like, thank you. So shopping round two. I think it's like that empowerment of, you know, we're raised in this medical system where we think, like, okay, doctor says this, we do this, we just. We don't really ask a lot of questions. But I think it's important for any kind of medical decision that you're actually asking questions. And if you maybe want a second opinion or a third opinion, you go and you get those.
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What was the timeline for you between having your first symptoms and actually getting that diagnosis of endometriosis?
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I mean, now that I look back, the symptoms I've probably had my entire, like, adult life, but I would say so. I mean, over 10 years, at least, probably 15 years. But the heavy symptoms, the issue that I was caused, like, had enough pain to go get checked out, was only a couple months because I didn't let that fester because something was off. But again, so many women go a decade plus without knowing you have it.
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You covered that so beautifully in your episode, actually. And I study endometriosis a lot. I look at the fertility crisis our country is dealing with. I certainly studied this from a scientific perspective when I was in college and in graduate school as well, but I didn't even realize how prevalent this actually was for the women of our generation. I learned from you that 1 in 10 women in our country are suffering from endometriosis. And on average, it takes eight years, on average, to remotely get the diagnosis. And most doctors don't suggest surgery or make sure that they can mitigate the problem immediately. They do just try to slap a pharmaceutical solution through the birth control pill on you, which I try not to fault the doctors for, because more often than not, when you're seeing your primary care physician or you're seeing your OB gyn, that's just what they've been trained to do. It really does take these specialists that have dedicated their life to these things to make sure that we're breaking that cycle. But for those that are watching this, that may be thinking to themselves, I have symptoms kind of like that. I've been confused about how my body is working. I don't want to wait eight years to get the right diagnosis and make sure that someday I can have a beautiful family, because that's something that I want as well. I don't want to just be on the pill forever. What advice would you give them in starting that diagnostic process?
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I would say immediately search local obs in your area that are specialists with endo, even if you might not have it, and hopefully you don't. But even if you think there are any symptoms that are off, go to someone like that because they'll also recognize maybe it's pcos, maybe it's something else, but they'll be able to give a little bit more of a specialized take on it rather than just your regular ob. So that would be the biggest thing I would say. Also, I talked about this a little bit in the episode, but Napro technology is like this new thing which I know you've talked about on the show. I'm fascinated by it now. I think it gives me so much hope for different things for women struggling with infertility. PCOS endo a bunch of different things. But also look up specialists like that in your area that are Napro specialists because they'll immediately go, yeah, that's not normal. They're not going to jump on the pill and they're going to kind of give you some other advice.
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Plus, they have awarded more than $400 million in institutional GCU scholarships last year in 2025 to support and encourage education for everyone. Grounded in Christian truth, GCU works to empower the next generation to lead with integrity, especially when we need it the most these days, to serve with purpose and to help transform their communities, building a future for all of us that matters. GCU is purpose driven education. You can take action and find your purpose at gcu. Private Christian, affordable nonprofit. Visit GCU Edu to learn more. Yeah, Napro is huge and if you guys don't know what that means, it's basically natural reproductive technology. It's people helping you understand how your body works and how you can lean into it and actually regulating your cycles, not just masking them through this pill that you take as A magic one size fits all solution at the end of the day. Up until now, very few accredited doctors have been leading the fight for napro and helping women understand naturally how to take ownership over your fertility and your cycles and your hormonal fluctuations. It's becoming a lot more popular, thanks be to God, I think largely because of the Maha movement. But the Catholic Church has been talking about this really since the dawn of time, right? I mean, this is not a new concept, and yet it does feel really new to the realm of Western medicine. I'm sure she wouldn't mind me telling this story, but I have a dear friend who has gone down this rabbit hole and a very similar story to yours, Reagan. Throughout the last few years, she was married to her husband. In the fall of 2021, I was in her wedding. And then they decided they wanted to wait about a year before they really started trying to have children. And after that year came up, they went through three years of unexplained infertility. And this is becoming so hyper normal that so many of my other friends, cousins, family members are dealing with this. One in seven couples in America actively trying to conceive today are just told by their doctor, well, you can't have a baby. But we don't know why. We've done all the tests, we've done all the scans. On paper, it doesn't make sense. So we're going to slap this label of unexplained infertility on you, and then we'll just immediately try to sell you on ivf. My friend and her husband are devout Catholics. They were very uncomfortable with the idea of IVF and just didn't want morally to go down that route. So they tried just about every other fertility option for them on the market when it came to IUI or injections and hormonal treatments and all kinds of stuff. Ultimately none of that worked as well. And so they were just going down every single rabbit hole thinking, what could possibly be the issue here? And they heard about an organization that operates out of Omaha, Nebraska, in conjunction with Creighton university called the St. Paul Institute. And this organization is the leading napro center for all of these conversations happening in our country, but were recommended by a friend. And they took a trip down there to Omaha, and she went through all of the scans and all of the diagnostic everything. Eventually, after tracking her cycles for several months, they had her come in for an exploratory surgery, a laparoscopic surgery, where, lo and behold, endometriosis was all over her abdomen just everywhere. Like, of course you weren't naturally going to be able to conceive a child because there's so much built up scar tissue. It's very difficult for a baby to actually implant here. And so they scheduled her for a follow up surgery a couple of weeks later. Now she is pregnant with twins, which is the best news ever. Wow. Praise God. When she called me and told me that a few months ago, I just immediately burst into tears. It was the best news ever. But I just can't help but thinking about all of the women who are told this is normal, this is normal, this is normal, this is normal. It doesn't have to be just because it's been accepted as reality by the leading loudest voices in Western medicine. And it's up to us to continue fighting for real science and real truth, ultimately, which is exactly what you're doing with your new channel. Reagan. What is the next big deep dive that you are planning on going into? Maybe something related to motherhood, I'm guessing. And where can people continue to support you and your show?
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Yeah, well, we're doing a bunch of motherhood episodes, a bunch of kind of, again, everything we're talking about a discount, so some darker topics. But again, it all ties back to parenting, I think too, a large part of what we want to make sure that our kids are aware of how we can protect our kids. And so a lot of that kind of core mission is connected to that. People can find me at regenconrad on YouTube and same on all their platforms, just my name. But yeah, it's been so much fun to deep dive this stuff. It's so important to have these conversations and also important to have the conversations that aren't like a lot of this stuff is taken and politicized in another way.
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Right.
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Even when it comes to the conversation around Endo. I see so many times where I'm on social media and oh, it's misogyny that's to blame for why we have Endo and why it's this crisis and these things that it's like, why are we politicizing this? This is just a women's health issue. It doesn't have to be politicized. You don't have to use they them things when talking about Endo, which I've seen and it was so frustrating to me. But I'm like, we can just have these conversations simply strictly talk about science, talk about the problem and find solutions and kind of drop that noise. So that's what we're trying to do in this channel. And. Yeah, so I'm so excited for it.
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Before I let you go, I know you've talked really openly and beautifully about how becoming a mom has totally shifted your perspective in what we do every day as content creators and the intentionality behind what we're putting on the Internet, that we're really trying to move the needle and go on offense to create something beautiful instead of just reacting to the insanity for anyone out there who's looking for a little bit of hope in that arena that it's not just doom and gloom out there, despite the fact that it's often peddled that way by the talking heads on the Internet. Do you have a message of encouragement or support?
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Yeah. I would say the deeper that you look into things, there are solutions with the other side. You know, just like we know with the way the culture is and how much darkness is that, we know there is light at the end of the tunnel, figuratively, but also literally in terms of, like, we know who comes at the end and saves us. Right. We know that. We know that goodness wins. Also, I found when we're doing these heavy deep dives, when we're in the trenches of, again, discord, cults, random things like that, there's still solutions. There's still things on the other end that are good and that we can pull from that. So I think that gives me hope when I'm looking into these stories and when we're talking about big things like this. But, yeah, there is light at the end of these tunnels.
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All right, last question's a fun one for you, Reagan. It was a beautiful but tough journey to get here, to preparing for the arrival of your beautiful baby, which I'm so excited for you here in the next couple of days. What has been the most beautiful part of pregnancy thus far, and what are you most looking forward to once you give birth to your beautiful baby boy? Gosh.
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The most fun part, I mean, obviously, has just been the miracle of it itself. Even with, again, having health struggles over the last year and being afraid that maybe this was not a possibility or what that would look like. But seeing that test and being there with my husband and being like, oh, my.
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No way, Lord.
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Really, it was such a surreal moment. So I think that has been the most fun of that initial shock and awe of it. But I think the part that I'm most excited for is getting to watch my husband kind of step into that role as well. You know, I think it's. It's. I've known him for so many years now, and it's something we've always talked about, but now I get to watch him become a father. I am so. I'm so thrilled to meet my son as well. But I'm excited to watch, you know, this man that I know bloom in this new way. So I can't wait.
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My phone screen, lock screen. Oh, I'll have to clear all my notifications, of course. Is a picture of my husband a year ago next week holding our baby.
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That's gonna be out of any day,
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and I cannot even begin to express to you how special those moments really are. So take a lot of pictures, soak it all in. Do not get on the Internet, whatever you do, as you get closer to delivery. But we're praying for you every step of the way and can't wait to support you in this new journey of your life and this new YouTube channel that you just launched.
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Thank you so much. It was an honor to be here. I can't wait.
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Can't wait to give you a hug soon. Bye. Incredible conversation again. So, so excited for Reagan to begin this new chapter of her life and highly recommend you guys check out her new channel. These deep dives that she's going into are fascinating. Absolutely incredible stuff. Now let's switch gears a little bit to talk to our friend Pavel, who is now in front of the camera, not just behind the camera, making all the magic happen at the Daily Wire, and has recently launched a new show with us called Be a Man, in which he's going into the immersive experience of all of the coolest hyper masculine career paths out there possible. He got tased by some police officers. He's putting his hand up a cow's butt on a farm, because that's just what you got to do in order to make it all happen. He's climbing power lines. He's doing some really incredible stuff to expose just how important real masculinity still is in 2026 and beyond. You guys will love this conversation, and trust me, you will love his new show. It is one of favorite content offerings out there on the Internet right now. Rumor has it there's a new show around the block here at the Daily Wire, all about men doing hard things and the revival of masculinity. There's a fun trailer for you to see what it's all about.
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I don't know if there's a more
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noble cause or better people to work with. I'm gonna see if I can be just like them. We don't see ourselves as heroes. We honestly just think it's doing our job. If you want to be a hero, if you want to be a badass, be a man like these guys. Eight episodes. I am so deep. Eight life lessons. My name is Paavo. PMN with me. Deep breath in.
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And joining us now is our very own Daily Wire Pawel to tell us the mission behind the madness. Pavel, thank you for being here.
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Oh, my God, I'm so nervous. This is my first interview ever. Usually I'm behind a camera there, you know, hiding, and now I'm here, sitting here.
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No, I love this about your story. And actually, for those that might be watching this, thinking, who the heck is this person? Tell us how this happened. You are behind the camera. You were running all the production here at Daily Wire, and now you're on the other side of it.
B
Yeah, so I've been doing production probably like 17 years, and my job was and is still, you know, making things happen, pushing things through and yelling. First AD and production manager and director of production operations, all that. So, you know, my whole life, I was trying to be as far as I can from camera, rather behind camera. And now all of a sudden, we are sitting here.
A
Why are we here? Where did this show come from? Tell me everything that led us to this moment.
B
So I guess, you know, this show is intended to interview regular guys, real men at their real jobs instead of celebrities and hear their voices and what they do with their lives. What's their purpose? And, you know, I was like, maybe I should. Maybe I should do something about it. So I came up with the idea. I went and pitched it to executives. They're like, oh, okay, well, maybe shoot the pilot. I'm like, I need host. Well, figure out. Just find someone. So immediately I went to Michael Knowles. Mr. Knowles. So here's the thing. I showed him the pitch, and I was like, I just. They're allowing me to shoot it on my own time. Why don't you just participate whenever you have a moment? And he's like, nah, I don't think so. Maybe you should just do it. Mr. Knowles, my accent.
A
You're tell. You're telling me Michael Knowles didn't want to go get tased and try all the dirty jobs.
B
He didn't even know that that's coming. So he was like, yeah, just go do it. And I'm like, my accent, you know, I'm not on camera person. Why would I do that? He said, just try it. So we went and shot the pilot, and then we showed the pilot, and executives were like, yeah, you know, let us think about it. And then they thought about it and they're like, yeah, just go and shoot a few episodes. I'm like, who's the host? You sure? So then we started, you know, coordinating everything and shows just developing as we go. You know, I really wanted to emphasize police officers because police officers, you know, are being assaulted, called names, you know, we need to defund them. They're hated. And I just cannot comprehend why it's that. Because we really, really need them everywhere, entire world needs them. We are not ready not to have authority around us. We need to follow rules.
A
I love that. And I want to jump off of that in particular, because most of the discourse that I see about men from young women on the Internet in this, like, we have to hate all men era is that men are really useless for society. That if we could just figure out a way to have kids without them, then the world doesn't need them anymore. I see posts about this every single day, but I saw one responding to that a few months ago that totally shook me to my core about how many important jobs in society are 90 plus percent done by men. These jobs that you never think about with power lines and sewage tunnels and the things that make our society function and work that women just aren't doing, which is what really inspired you, I think, to start tapping into some of these more masculine roles in society. Society. You've done a couple that look very, very fun from the trailer. What has been a couple of the standout moments in filming so far?
B
Well, you know, we've done actually eight, and we have another two or three to go, you know, so, yes, police officers, which was phenomenal experience. Very cool guys, by the way. You don't have to be scared. If you're cool with them, they're cool with you. And they are very much so needed, you know. And again, nobody talks about it, but hundreds of them die in the line of duty every year. Let's not talk about it. No, we should talk about it because they leave their homes every morning, their families, without knowing if they're going to return. And nobody thinks about those things. And we want to emphasize that, hey, there are cool guys. You can hang out with them, they can talk to them. You don't have to be scared of them. Just don't be a criminal. Easy. Same with firefighters also. A bunch of them dies every year. I think it's a little bit under 100, but still a lot of them. They are running into fire to save people. Nobody talks about it like let's emphasize that and problem with firefighters, electrical elements, police officers is all the same. People are not willing to be and do those jobs anymore. Every year there's less and less people that are interesting to participate to be those people. And that's scary because again, we need them with electrical alignment, which was very interesting. We shot the episode with them as well. They also were like, hey, this is our lifestyle. But we are on calls every weekend, every holiday. You know, we don't see our children birthdays and on and on. We are the first ones to get to the scene when there's something going on like freeze, storm. They have to be the first one to be there before fire department, before police, before ambulance. They have to be the first one to secure, make sure everything is safe so the rest of the enforcement can actually proceed with their jobs.
A
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B
Believe it or not, I have not seen even one episode. Oh, homework.
A
Mandatory homework. This feels to me like a slightly more culturally aware version of that. At the time, Dirty Jobs, I think was trying to expose a lot of the stuff that we just don't think about and why it matters. And thank you so much to all these people at that time that it was on the air, there wasn't this cultural attack against men and masculinity and the removal of these important jobs from society. And we also weren't dealing with this health crisis that so many people are dealing with where literally millions upon millions of young men are dealing with disastrously low testosterone levels, struggles with their mental health. So this feels almost like more culturally important today than Dirty Jobs did at the time. But I see a lot of parallels between them. So you gotta watch them.
B
Yeah, I mean, I'm just trying to. The funny part about this show is that, you know, I walked into this and I was like, you know, I feel comfortable with myself. I am confident guy, you know, I do yelling for a living. And I was like, I can do this, you know, I can. I don't get taste. It's fine, you know, I'll climb the pole, it's fine. But the reality is, it was a very quick reality check. You know, I am not as courageous I thought I am. I am not as tough as thought I am. It's like I am learning what it means to be a man. Every single episode I am gaining new values that I thought I have, I thought I'm capable of and I'm really not. So it's an adventure. And believe it or not, like outside of the fact that I'm on camera and that's extremely like nerve wracking for me.
A
It is, yeah. That alone is a challenge.
B
But then you're like, okay, Pawel, today you're gonna climb a 45ft pole. Okay, well, it looks easy, but it's not easy. No, you're gonna get taste. It looks easy, but it's very painful.
A
How bad did it hurt?
B
Oh, it's miserable. It's like worst five seconds of my life. You're fully conscious, but you can breathe, you can move and you just pray for it to End. And my thoughts were like, oh, my God, this thing broke. Now I'm gonna be tased for rest of my life. I'm probably dying right now.
A
There's something to this, though, about the idea of getting outside of your comfort zone. I grew up going to adventure summer camp. I know, it's so nerdy. Okay, everybody just deal with it. It also was science camp, so if you really want to make fun of me, that's fine too. But part of our responsibility as campers growing up in summer camp was to get outside of our comfort zone every single day. And the way that our counselors used to describe it, and I later went and worked at that camp as a grownup, was that the more you step outside of your comfort zone, what once was your panic zone where you said, oh my gosh, I can't possibly do this, all of a sudden becomes your growth zone where you're feeling, okay, this is hard, but I know I can accomplish something. And then your comfort zone gets bigger and bigger and bigger, and your growth zone goes out.
B
Absolutely.
A
Panic zone goes away, essentially. And whether we were kids climbing 14,000 foot mountains or going whitewater rafting, and we were scared when we fell out of the boat and thinking, oh, my gosh, I'm gonna drown, but I didn't. I'm fine. Everything's okay. It was this amazing experience as a kid to be able to learn I can do hard things and I become a better version of myself in the process. That is missing from the masculinity stories. In America, we don't tell people to do hard things.
B
Absol. I mean, challenge equals growth. And it's so important that we do that. People are asking me, Pavel, so what does your goal with this show? Do you want to be a celebrity? I care less if this show will inspire handful of teenagers to get out of their comfort zone and do something with their life. Actually, that would be a success. I would be the happiest man in the world. Because the reality is that the young men, younger generation in general, you know, they build their characters in the video games. They're investing their time to build a character in the video games, turn off computer, build a character in the real life. It's now in you. Yeah, it's now.
A
You know, it's funny, you said right at the beginning of our conversation that we have no real masculinity show at Daily Wire. And I laugh when you say that because I'm one of the only women who hosts a show here at the Daily Wire. Sometimes the criticism is that we are only very masculine and there's a lot of men. So I gotta know, are we gonna drag out the male podcast host from behind their microphones and get out there and do some of these challenges with you? Can we expect Michael Knowles and Matt Walsh and Ben Sapiro and Matt Fradd to go climb a power pole with you or shovel poop or do one of the challenging things?
B
Well, you know, I think they are good at what they do. You know, like if someone would ask me to go and talk about politics, I would be like, I don't know absolutely nothing about it, so I'm gonna be silent. And I think they see it similarly. Like, you know what, we're good at this. You do your thing. Plus, you know, I don't know if Michael Knowles would be like, hey man, let me get taste today. Probably not likely.
A
Nals, we would love to see it. Please, please consider donating your time for an episode like this. Pawel, where can people watch the new show and continue to support this important mission that young men really need to hear?
B
So we ask Everybody, go to YouTube. It's YouTube.commn with me. Go watch it, subscribe. There's, there's fun stuff coming out. A lot of pain for me, a lot of love for you. You'll enjoy it. Hopefully.
A
Be a man.
C
I love it.
A
I feel inspired even as a woman. Thank you.
B
Thank you, ma'.
A
Am. Thanks for hanging out with us on a Friday afternoon and spending some time with my friends Reagan and Pavel. Go check out both of their shows. They are fantastic. And you can find both of their shows, my show and a whole bunch of other incredible content over on Daily Wire. Plus plus, if you guys haven't joined us as a subscriber over there yet already, if you guys haven't had a chance to watch my debate with Harry Sisson that was put on by the Free Press. We did it a few weeks ago at UVA just a few hours away in Charlottesville. It is now live on the Interwebs. You can find it on my YouTube channel or over at the Free Press as well. It was an interesting conversation. Warrants a bit of a follow up, I will have to say because some of the best topics we didn't have time to get into in just a 45 minute format. But I'm hopeful that the there's some good chances for further debate in our generation here in the next couple of months. Not gonna give anything away, but you may or may not see us back in a more exciting, fiery environment. We'll just put it that way. In the meantime, happy weekend. I hope you guys have a great day and if I can recommend anything to you for the weekend again, I reiterate. Go listen to the new Noah Khan album, get in your feels, touch some grass, experience the great divide. Love you guys. Bye.
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Episode: Men & Women Are Both Under Attack in America – Here’s How We Fix It
Date: April 24, 2026
In this episode, Isabel Brown dives into the challenges facing both men and women in America today, with a focus on the cultural, medical, and societal forces that undermine traditional roles, health, and purpose. She hosts two key conversations: first, with Regan Conrad, who unpacks the silent epidemic of endometriosis and the often-dismissive medical system; and second, with Pavel, the unlikely host of the new Daily Wire show Be a Man, chronicling his firsthand journey into masculine professions that keep society running. The episode is ultimately a call for deeper understanding, solution-seeking, and a return to valuing both masculinity and femininity in modern America.
Timestamps: [03:40] – [28:12]
Timestamps: [28:12] – [44:36]
Regan Conrad:
Isabel Brown:
Pavel:
The episode offers both a sobering look at how American society and medicine fail women and men in unique but profound ways, and an inspiring vision for proactive change:
Both segments reject passive victimhood, emphasizing resourcefulness, community, faith, and the necessity to “go on offense” for a better cultural future.