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It's not polite conversation and it makes us deeply uncomfortable to talk about. But the truth is our country has been funding through your taxpayer dollars, experimentation upon innocent babies body parts for decades, what is quite literally human trafficking of the most innocent, vulnerable people around us to research laboratories from abortion facilities like Planned Parenthood and is officially no longer going to be tolerated in the United States after Dr. J. Bhattacharya at the NIH announced this morning that no more taxpayer funding or research grants will be given for research projects using fetal tissue. This is a huge win in the continued fight for life and we are so excited to break it all down for you right here today on the Isabel Brown Show. Today is a really, really, really big day full of amazing good news, which feels like a rarity, honestly, in the world of podcasting related to current events and the news. We're going to get into today's huge announcement from the NIH and Dr. J. Bhattacharya protecting babies in just a second. But first, I know you guys have been asking. There was a huge update today and I wanted to make sure that you guys heard this. The Department of Justice has officially begun making its first few rounds of arrests and we'll be going to be prosecuting certain people that led the church infiltration that we saw in Minneapolis and covered on the show earlier this week. This is a really exciting new development because we are finally holding people accountable for the ridiculous anti Christian persecution that we are seeing in our country. I'm anxious to see where this all goes. I'm curious where they're going to be trying these people. What court system is going to be taking all this up and and so much more. So we will continue to follow these stories very closely for you as well. But even more importantly, huge news related to the continued fight for life here in Washington D.C. holy moly. Is it a crazy day in the United States today, especially in the world of science as it pertains to restoring the dignity and sanctity of human life. You guys probably know tomorrow is the march for life. I am so excited to to be rejoining the march here in Washington, D.C. i think it's the 54th, 56th year of the march this year. I'll have producer Jess fact check me on that. But it is an incredible gathering of the most amazing people that have spent decades, truly decades upon decades, fighting to restore the sanctity and dignity of human life across our country. And in particular the overturning of Roe v. Wade, which we saw in 2022. But, but if We've learned anything over the past few years in fighting for life and what it truly means to be pro life. It cannot just stop with Roe v. Wade. The fight continues and looks a whole lot different these days in 2026 than it did even in 2022, as we were awaiting the Dobbs decision and the eventual overturning of Roe v. Wade. And one of the things that I think so many people who aren't constantly plugged into the pro life movement every single day as much as we are, certainly the thing that people don't really realize is just how deep this problem goes in our society when it comes to the exploitation and the destruction of the innocent lives of babies every single day. That's happening right under our noses in the United States of America. Just one of the examples of that being the scientific research that goes on here in the United States government at the nih and extramural research that happens on college campuses and research facilities all over the country every day utilizing fetal tissue. What does that mean? Innocent babies bodies are being experimented upon day in and day out in the name of science, when really scientifically that doesn't need to be happening. And this is something that's been going on for decades in the United States. It's one of those things that's really uncomfortable that we don't like to talk about because it's a difficult subject and it's utterly heartbreaking. But today I have incredible news for you. And I think it's really important that we spend a few minutes talking about it today because of the big changes that are happening thanks to strong leadership that's rooted in moral clarity in the sciences. Now here in Washington, D.C. you guys might remember Dr. J. Bhattacharya, who was on the Isabel Brown Show a few months ago talking about his new role leading the nih, the National Institute of Health, which funds the vast majority of, of scientific research here in the government. Certainly what they call intramural research. Scientists that work for the nih, but also research projects around the country, grants that are given to professors, to scientists, and to laboratories on college campuses and research institutions all over the world. We loved our conversation with Dr. J. And please, please, please go watch that yourself because it was amazing from a few months ago about all of the things that he's learning about what, what's happening inside the NIH and the changes that they're trying to make. One change that they have been working on for a very, very, very long time officially was announced today and is a huge win for the Pro life community is a huge win for parents of babies who have such a heart for protecting babies around our society and culture. And just to restore human dignity in the United States of America, they are officially announcing today from the NIH that they are banning any taxpayer dollars from going towards research funds using fetal tissue. This is really exciting, both intramural research and extramural research, meaning research happening at the NIH in the government or funded by the government around the country that's happening in other laboratories and can no longer use fetal tissue from elective abortions at all inside of laboratories in America. This news was broken on our very own Daily Wire's Ben Shapiro show this morning with Dr. Jay Bhattacharya joining. Ben, let's hear what he had to say.
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Yeah, so human fetal tissue research is, I mean, obviously has been a quite a controversial topic for a long time. The NIH had a big debate in the early 2000s over this. The tissue itself is often derived from aborted fetal tissue. So someone has an abortion and then some researcher goes and buys the tissue and then uses it for research projects. During Trump won the policy was that if so there's two parts of the nih. There's intramural researchers that directly work for the NIH and there's extramural. All the people that the NIH funds, all in the universities. TRUMP 1 banned intramural use of aborted fetal tissue, human fetal tissue. This time we're going beyond that. We're saying not just the intramural research, but all of the support for the NIH has had, especially during the Biden administration, for human fetal tissue research more broadly outside in universities, this derived from abortions is banned. Sorry, just there's one, a couple of nuances really important here. One is that if there's tissue from a miscarriage, not from a specifically from an abortion, that's okay. The reason that's important, there are some research uses, like for instance, understanding how fetal lungs develop. That's useful to know, to have that. So there's some we've been tracking this very carefully. And the use of human fetal tissue and research has been declining pretty sharply even after the Biden administration sort of reversed the ban. The amount of money that the NIH has spent on human fetal tissue during the Biden administration research has declined very sharply. And so what's happened is there's all these, like, big advances where you can use alternate methods that you no longer need human fetal tissue. A lot of the angst and fights over this that happened over in the early 2000s. I think now that there's like better technology. It's really that the point is that there's no scientific, scientific harm to this. We're still gonna be able to do the science we need to make, you know, for human health, for advancing health of babies and all that while at the same time getting rid of this, this, this sort of, this sort of like use of aborted human fetal tissue, which so many people, including me, find morally abhorrent.
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Huge. This is a massive deal. And in particular coming from the scientific world, myself with two degrees in biomedical sciences, working in research laboratories, spending a lot of time very up close to this, I don't think the average person necessarily has a depth of appreciation for how big of a change this actually is. Fetal tissue, which is another really fancy way of saying babies body parts are being used in laboratories every single day for a whole host of scientific supposed research. And sometimes that is actually legitimate. And there is a level of nuance here that I do think is important to acknowledge that the NIH is specifically banning the use of elective aborted fetal tissue right now. So mostly when you go to Planned Parenthood and you get an abortion, they don't give you your baby's body to take home with you so that you can bury it and properly mourn your baby that you often do see with miscarriages and still births. When that happens at a hospital, you usually are given a choice to donate your baby's body to research or to take it home with you and make sure that you are properly honoring and grieving your baby. What they're really talking about here is that the Planned Parenthoods of the world are taking the products of conception, as they often call it, AKA a baby's body, and they are sending it, we'll get into that in a second, to research facilities all over the country to be experimented upon. This research sometimes is actually about babies development. So as Dr. J said on Ben Shapiro show this morning, sometimes that's like learning how the lungs develop as a baby is in the womb and making sure that we have better understanding of that. But, but more often than not, upwards of 90 plus percent of the time, I would venture to say what babies body parts are actually being used for is stuff like vaccine development or understanding stem cells, which we don't actually need from a scientific perspective in laboratories anymore. In fact, differentiating stem cells different ways. Pluripotent stem cells for example, is far more scientifically advanced at this point than deriving stem cells from, from a baby from a baby's body. So it really doesn't have any sort of necessity in the vast, vast, vast majority, some would say all the time, of laboratory settings in research, which Dr. J also explained, Dr. B. Explained on Ben Shapiro's show as well. So listen to this.
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So let's talk about the scientific value here. So you say, obviously, and so does the administration, that the use of aborted fetal tissue is now largely unnecessary. We have alternative methods for doing this. Obviously, opponents of the policy are suggesting that something terrible is happening scientifically, that research that would have gone, that would have been happening is no longer going to be done, that there will be medical gains that we have to forego because of all of this. What is the scientific case that that's false?
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Well, first I'd ask them to look at the actual policy. Right. So someone who's had a miscarriage and then wants to, you know, do a meaningful thing and they donate the tissue from the miscarriage to sc that's still allowed.
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Right.
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So the only ban is on you have an abortion specifically to terminate the baby and then the tissue then gets sold. That's what's being banned. Not all human fetal tissue. The other thing I point out is, Ben, is that if you look at the actual data on the use of NIH funds for this during the Biden administration, there was a sharp drop in spending on human fetal tissue research. And the reason is very simple, is because of the advances in alternatives to the human fetal tissue, for instance, induced polio protein stem cells for many uses. You can produce tissues that are comparable or better without having the sort of moral qualms. And Ben, if I make another sort of public health case about this, and during the pandemic, there were vaccines, for instance, the Johnson Johnson vaccine, not an MRNA vaccine, but another technology that was produced using human, basically embryonic stem cells. I heard from so many people during the pandemic that Catholics and others who had qualms about using this technology because they didn't want to be gaining from what their moral system said was a illicit fruit of the poison tree. Right. And I completely sympathize with this. In public health and in science, we should seek to produce knowledge and products that are as widely available for everybody. If there are large numbers of people with moral systems that say, well, look, if you don't go down this line and use research, do research with, you know, aborted fetal, human fetal tissue, I'm not going to, I'm not going to participate in it. I'm not going to the vaccine or whatever it is. I'm not going to use it. Well, what good was the research if a large part of the population feels ethically bound not to participate or use the products of that research?
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Again, I don't think the appreciation is there for how big of a deal this actually is. And some people have been paying attention to this for a really long time, those of us in the scientific world, those of us who have been fighting on the front lines of the pro life movement for a very long time. So I thought it was important today on the show to paint a little bit of a picture for you of what this change actually means and why it matters so much more than the mainstream media is going to give any credit for over the next few days. Back to today's incredibly important conversation in a second. But first, is it just me or did we not, like, just finish Christmas? Like, we blinked and now we're already talking about Easter? Lent is in five minutes. Apparently time is fake, but actually Lent is one of the most powerful seasons of the entire year. It certainly is one of my favorite times of the entire year. And our friend Hallow is doing something really incredible this year, starting on Ash Wednesday, February 18th, right around the corner called Pray 40 the Return every single year, Hallow's Lent Challenge brings together millions of people in prayer as we walk together towards the cross at Easter. And this year's theme, the Return, might be one of the most beautiful they've ever done yet, because this Lent is not about being perfect. It's about coming home. Coming home to God, coming home to truth, coming home to who you actually are as a beloved child of God. Hallow's Lent Challenge is inspired by the parable of the Prodigal Son. And Hallow is breaking open this story so, so beautifully. You meet these complex, deeply human characters and you suddenly see yourself in them. Their struggles, their longing, their brokenness. It all hits so close to home. That is where real transformation happens. The story holds up a mirror for each of us, inviting us to look honestly at the battle between good and evil that's waging in our own hearts and what's pulling us away from God. That is exactly what Lent is for, preparing our hearts for the crucifixion, death, and resurrection of Jesus and walking with him through the desert to the cross so that we are ready for the joy that comes at Easter. If this year you're feeling tired or distracted or far from God and you're ready for something deeper in your faith life, this is your invitation. Come home. This Lent Return to the father. He has been waiting for you with open arms and a loving heart. You guys can get three months free of all of the amazing content at Hallow, including this year's Pray 40 challenge at hallow.com Isabel and and Pray together every day with us this Lenten season. I am really curious to see how they write this up, if they even talk about this at all because this doesn't fit their narrative certainly of what follow the science actually means. Even though that quite literally is exactly what's happening here is following the science and realizing that we don't need to exploit innocent babies body parts in order to facilitate good science in a laboratory setting anymore. But to paint a little bit of a picture for you. I want you to understand that every single year the nih, the National Institute of Health, a taxpayer funded aspect of the executive branch of the government, funds upwards of 200 plus research projects all over the country that use human fetal tissue that take a baby's body and baby's body parts that are obtained mostly through elective abortions. When a woman goes into an abortion facility like a Planned Parenthood and that body is then transported or products of conception as they would label it, is transported to a research facility and spends hundreds of millions of dollars of US taxpayer dollars your money to experiment upon these babies bodies in different capacities, vaccine development in stem cell differentiation, and in so much more. In 2019, Congress put together a general FAQ page on their website on congress.gov about frequently asked questions related to fetal cell tissue research or baby body part research. You're going to hear me say that a lot today because I think that's actually important to keep reminding ourselves. This isn't a clump of cells or some random microscopic thing that nobody cares about. These are the body parts, the organs, the skin, the bones, all of it of actual human babies that we are talking about here. To humanize this a little bit for you. They put together this list of frequently asked questions and published this in 2019. And they're very open about this. This is from the United States government about what your money is being spent on. They wrote this how is fetal tissue acquired required for research? Pretty frequently asked question on this topic. And they wrote this. Fetal tissue for research is collected from healthcare facilities and then transferred to laboratories for research purposes, often through an intermediary such as a biotechnology company, a university or a medical center. Read that in like plain English language instead of government coded policy speak. Literally what they're talking about is human trafficking, but nobody wants to call it that but that's what it is. It's human trafficking. It is literally the harvesting of a human body, a baby's body, handing it to an intermediary. That's the word that they use, like a biotechnology company, a university or a medical center. That intermediary then transfers the product, the fetal tissue, the baby's body, a human being, to a laboratory for research purposes. Yeah, no, you're paying for that. Actually, they go on to say fetal tissue, babies, bodies used in research is mostly obtained from elective or induced abortions, like when you go to a Planned Parenthood for an elective abortion. Though statute also permits the collection of human fetal tissue from spontaneous abortions, which, by the way, is not an abortion, that's a miscarriage. And they specify that here. Or stillbirths for subsequent use in federally funded research. These events often occur during unpredictable circumstances where it is difficult to preserve the tissue for research purposes. In addition, the tissue from spontaneous abortions or stillbirths is more likely to have genetic or other abnormalities that preclude its use for research purposes. In other words, yeah, you might be given the opportunity if you have a miscarriage and you go to the hospital and you deliver your baby, you have a dnc, your baby is delivered prematurely, they're deceased already, you might have the option to donate their body to science, but chances are, if they passed away in the womb and they didn't make it to term, there's something genetically that's an abnormality associated with them, or they have some sort of physical abnormality that caused their miscarriage and their premature death. And so they don't really want to research upon those babies. They don't really want to experiment upon those babies, because that doesn't help research. So literally what the United States government is publishing here from Congress in 2019 is that they want intact, healthy babies who are sourced from abortion facilities, that the only thing wrong with them is that they were unwanted by their mothers, and they want to research upon these babies for research purposes, whatever the hell that's supposed to mean. Various pro life organizations have tallied up how much money is actually being spent on this over the years, and it is shocking information, truly, when you look at the actual numbers and the grants individually that are given to universities and to biotechnology institutions, to research institutions all over the country. It is enough to make you want to vomit, genuinely, how much of your money is going toward the harvesting of innocent babies and their trafficking to research institutions all over the country. The Charlotte Lozier Institute put together a really interesting table here for fiscal year 2019, the same year that Congress published that FAQ where they were quite open about what they were actually doing. And they said that they found an estimated total funding for fetal tissue projects having a history exceeding $500 million. Then they put together this funding by organization and state for different universities, children's hospitals, et cetera, with where they're located, how many fetal tissue projects they were doing in fiscal year 2019 and how much money they received. As you can see as we look through this document, it's absolutely insane. Whether it's the California Institute of Technology or Children's Hospital of Los Angeles, my alma mater, Colorado State University, University of Iowa, Boston University Medical Campus, Boston Children's Hospital, Dartmouth, Duke, New York University, SUNY Downstate, Brown, ut, Southwestern University of Wyoming. I mean these are places at every level of academia in almost every state around the country in some capacity receiving, as you can see on the right hand column of this table, millions upon millions upon millions of taxpayer dollars, grants from the NIH to experiment upon babies bodies. And when we say it that plainly, of course that makes you nauseous, of course that makes you sick to your stomach, of course that makes you shudder and think how could we possibly have allowed this to go on for decades upon decades upon decades in our society, society thinking that this was the best way to conduct science, refusing to ask the question just because we can, should we? And removing all bioethics from the conversation about fetal tissue research in its entirety. The sad reality is we have tried to ask and answer this question over the last several years, but the media, elected officials, people in high positions of power in the science, like the Dr. Fauci's of the world have refused to give it the time of day and have even run interference for shady business practices and actual human trafficking that has gone on in the background of fetal tissue research for decades. And this is why independent media matters now, today more than ever before, why shows like this are exposing this information when the CNNs and MSN NBC's of the world are refusing to touch it with a ten foot pole. And mark my words, in the wake of this announcement from Dr. J. Bhattacharya on Ben Shapiro's show this morning, I guarantee you the New York Times and Politico and the Hill and all of these accredited journalism organizations are either going to refuse to talk about this at all because they're not gonna wanna pay any attention to the major policy change, or the way they write about it is going to be so deceptive that and so deliberately disgusting that they make the Trump administration the bad guy for stopping experimentation upon innocent babies bodies. Mark my words. I guarantee you this is how this is going to be presented. Especially with the March for Life happening tomorrow right around the corner. What's really fascinating is a literal decade ago, a decade plus ago, one courageous man named David Daleyden made undercover investigators investigative videos featuring Planned Parenthood executives. Reminder that Planned Parenthood is the largest abortion provider in the United States. Today they are responsible for the vast majority of abortions that happen in America. And he went to abortion trade shows. Yes, those actually exist. Apparently posing as a researcher from one of these middlemen intermediary biotechnology companies and, and caught these Planned Parenthood executives on camera, undercover filming, saying the most grotesque things possible about the harvesting of literal baby body parts and essentially their literal trafficking to research institutions and universities around the country. This footage is incredibly hard to watch, but it is jarring for a reason. Because we aren't supposed to have this level of crass indifference and revolting exploitation of innocent babies and their precious tiny bodies. Oh, this is hard to talk about as a mom. Sorry. That should be relying on us for their protection and their care rather than being sold out to the highest bidder. When these videos were produced by David Daleiden's organization, the center for Medical Progress, this caused a massive storm in the media and in the law, which we'll get to in a second. But I want you to watch these videos for yourself and take away your own logical conclusion before we get into the aftermath storm that happened a decade ago when they were first published. If you guys have been following me for a little while, you probably know that I've covered these videos several times in Instagram reactions and previously on my live stream before I joined the Daily Wire. But I will never stop talking about this until everyone is aware, aware that this has been going on for a very very long time in the United States. And by the grace of God, we finally have leadership at the NIH with Dr. J. Bhattacharya and under the leadership of Secretary Kennedy saying enough is enough. We're not doing this anymore. Mark my words. We still have a lot more work to do after all of this. This first video features David Daleiden as a posed researcher published by the center for Medical Progress, showing a Planned Parenthood executive bragging about how effectively she pulls off babies legs at Planned Parenthood facilities in Texas. Listen to this.
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I might ask for a second set of forceps. Hold the body at the at the cervix and pull off the leg.
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Oh, okay.
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So it's not right. There are some that are like, I need you to make one more pass.
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One more pass. Trust me.
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Because, like, I would never would have had a conversation with you if I wasn't already, like, fairly confident.
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As if that wasn't disgusting enough, David caught other Planned Parenthood execs talking about how they actually are differentiating abortion procedures to begin delivering babies alive to more effectively harvest their organs and sell their body parts. That way the organs don't deteriorate so fast that they can't be sold and used.
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That goes up to 24 weeks, which is the nature of Beastly. Ann is the other provider. That goes up to 24 weeks as well. So if you want more intact ones, she's the one you kind of need a doctor.
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You're the one to see, huh?
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I had a patient. Yeah, like sometime in the past few months. I don't remember what it was, but she wanted footprints. And I had a resident with me that day. And I was like, you know what? I'm going to do this procedure because I'm going to try and do my best to get these feet out in turn.
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Right?
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We did footprints and hand prints.
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Baby.
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Dude, you guys are awesome.
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Well done.
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But they need like the liver mostly and the.
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And it's not just happening in the Gulf coast where those first two videos were captured from Texas based Planned Parenthood executives a decade ago. This happened years ago and we're just now talking about it now at the nih. David Daleiden, through the center for Medical Progress, caught California Planned Parenthood executives saying the same thing, that they were trying to change abortion procedures, differentiate abortion procedures, to not worry about killing the baby in the womb first and then take the baby's body parts out limb by limb, how abortion procedures are typically conducted, but instead to deliver live babies so that their organs would be in better shape to sell to the highest bidder at research institutions.
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So, Heather, about your larger cases. You said sometimes you're converting to breach beforehand. And then are those coming out fairly intact or what is that?
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I don't think.
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But it is breached first. So you're getting the whole thoracic cavity is coming out. Oh, it's rare. When you can, you do.
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Again. Been going on for a very, very, very long time in a so called progressive, enlightened, joyful society that honors human rights, that people are constantly protesting for human rights. But what about those humans? What about the most innocent, vulnerable children in our society that are desperate, who don't have a voice themselves desperate for us to be their voice in our society. I don't know about you, but when I hear announcements like this because there are people fighting the good fight and honestly seeking to protect the babies in our society, I just feel this weight lifted off my shoulders and just a big exhale, I can finally rest. It feels so, so so good. And honestly, that's been a feeling that we've all needed over the past six months or so more than ever before. Especially as we start a new year in 2026 and are looking for rest to be such an important part of our day to day lives. We are doing that by upgrading our home and refreshing our home. 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They talked about the last Trump administration's ethics board related to research funding and research funding going towards fetal tissue in particular. Science magazine wrote about this in 2020. They wrote this back then new US ethics board rejects Most Human Fetal Tissue Research Proposals Then HHS Secretary Azar, if you remember him, asked not to fund 13 out of 14 applications for human fetal tissue. They wrote this in the article. At least 10 of the ethics board's 15 members have publicly opposed abortion, fetal tissue research, human embryonic stem cell research, contraception, or a combination of these. Only one board member at that time, Lawrence Goldstein, who was a neuroscientist at the University of California, San Diego, has been an outspoken advocate of fetal tissue use. He told Science magazine then, I am obviously disappointed by the obvious bias in the membership of this ethics board and the biased consequences for the outcome, he said Excellent disease relevant research will likely not be funded and it will not be possible to reduce the need for for human fetal tissue in disease research Again, that was six years ago at this point. So even last time in the Trump administration, there was really only one scientist obsessed with using fetal tissue in research at the NIH several years ago. Now, obviously we're seeing a massive dramatic policy change in the right direction, with more scientists being willing to say enough is enough. Here is where we draw the line. Just because we can doesn't mean we should. And the Trump administration is taking the next step in making sure that we are banning the use of fetal tissue in research moving forward. And what's interesting to me is that as we've seen this shift happen over the last several years, I love revisiting how the media treated the David Daleiden investigative videos from a decade ago because now we watch this video and we understand that all of these things have been happening, and we're deeply uncomfortable with it. I mean, it's nauseating listening to these Planned Parenthood execs say all of this openly. They didn't know they were being filmed, which makes it even more compelling. That's why actual investigative journalism matters so, so, so much. But back then, when the mainstream media saw these videos, they were desperate to try to discredit all of it immediately and to sweep it under the rug so that no one had the opportunity to have this type of transparent, honest conversation about it right after these videos came out. This is absolutely disgusting. The media went out of their way to make David Daleyden look like this horrible journalist who had no ethics and was breaking all the rules and purposefully made Planned Parenthood look like the bad guy, when in reality, he was the bad guy. BBC News wrote this in January of 2016, literally a decade ago. Here's the headline. Filmmakers who targeted Planned Parenthood face charges. Listen to this. A Texas grand jury has cleared Planned Parenthood of misconduct after the abortion provider was accused of selling fetal body parts for profit. Instead, the panel charged the filmmakers behind the accusations with tampering with government records. The center for Medical Progress secretly filmed videos that caused an outcry and prompted efforts to withdraw Planned Parenthood's federal funding. Again, this has happened a decade ago. CMP founder David D. Leiden was also charged with buying human organs. Hang on, hang on a second. Planned Parenthood did nothing wrong. So they were let off by a grand jury then a decade ago, and the media certainly is trying to let them off. But then they charged the guy who made the video with doing something so wrong. Buying human organ.
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Who.
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Who sold you the organs? I mean, you literally cannot make this stuff up. The level of interference that the media runs for. Planned Parenthood always has and will continue to do so in the wake of this announcement from the NIH Today, Politico covered this as well. At the time they had this headline report for Planned Parenthood finds Sting videos Manipulated. Those videos that you just watched. Here's how they start this article. A report commissioned by Planned Parenthood has found that the sting videos targeting its tissue donation practices contain intentionally deceptive edits and inaccurately transcribed conversations and are missing footage. But there is no evidence that the anti abortion group behind the attack made up dialogue. Oh, my gosh. You literally cannot make this crap up. They're so mean. They. They Misled you. But actually they didn't make any of it up. And the Planned Parenthood executives actually did say all of this stuff, stuff on camera. You don't hate the media enough. I am so incredibly encouraged by the fact that the NIH is protecting the most innocent people in our society today. This is a huge, huge win and an answered prayer for those of us that have been fighting so, so hard to restore human dignity, not just inside of abortion clinics, but later on down the line as well, when we see the use of innocent babies bodies being used for the most disgusting practices you could possibly imagine. And the biggest hope that I have for this news that's coming out today is that we start dramatically changing our culture. Because the truth is we've known about this disgusting research industry and everything they've been doing for quite some time. Those videos were made by David Daleiden and his organization a date decade ago and it's been happening longer than that. But instead of holding those participating in what appears to be literal human trafficking, if you want to call it that, we blame the people that are trying to expose it. In all of my years studying science in undergrad at Colorado State, which accepts a lot of these research dollars and later in grad school at Georgetown, it was an incredibly prevalent part of the scientific community and world to just generally accept this was good science, that the only way to do actual good research was to harvest the body parts of innocent babies in the womb and make sure that we could experiment upon them. And over the years, even though I'm not involved in the scientific world as much on a day by day basis anymore, I have several friends and family members who have told me stories who are currently in medical school or working in research laboratories who have had to go out of their way to advocate for themselves and their values and objective morality to not participate in fetal or embryonic tissue research. One person in particular, in their very first week of medical school, someone personal to me in my life, had to go out of their way to tell their medical school that they weren't comfortable being assigned to a research laboratory using embryonic stem cells and had to raise a whole thing about all of this. And it was so unbelievably uncomfortable in their first week of medical school. I mean, could you imagine having to put yourself out there like that? But to say, I'm not comfortable doing harm violating what should be the top of the Hippocratic oath, I'm not comfortable exploiting an innocent person's body who did not consent to being experimented upon to continue fostering a culture of life, we have to constantly fight for restoring human dignity, not just an end to abortion. Not just to make abortion culturally unthinkable and legally outlawed, illegal in America, but to be able to recognize when a human being is a human being, when the most vulnerable in our culture are dependent upon us to use our voices for them, and when we need to go out of our way from a policy perspective to protect the most innocent in whatever setting we possibly can. Our children are desperately crying out to us to end the barbaric practices of researching upon their bodies. I am deeply grateful. Like literally was in tears this morning when I heard this announcement that we finally have the courage inside of Washington to draw the line and say enough is enough. Thank you Dr. J. Bhattacharya. Thank you to the NIH, thank you to the Trump administration for taking on such an exciting new position of leadership and moral clarity on this issue. And now we pick up the torch and head to the next fight to restore human dignity and human life in America. We will be at the March for Life tomorrow, which I'm so excited about. We'll have a full vlog coming to you on Monday. I'm gonna bring Isla. It's gonna be so much fun and I can't wait to see all of you guys there who are traveling in from all over the country and world to join us here in Washington D.C. to again, courageously say that we are fostering a culture of life. Tomorrow on the show we have a very exciting interview with a friend of ours working to dismantle how much the baby industry, diapers, wipes, baby lotions and body washes, all of these companies are donating to the Planned Parenthoods and abortion clinics of the world. You will be unbelievably shocked just how much the baby industry is propping up the abortion industry, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but we're getting into all of it tomorrow and I'm so, so grateful for your guys's continued support of the show and everything that we are working on. What a crazy week. Getting to have four cabinet secretaries on the show in literally like 72 hours. As we continue to grow and are trying to bring these important convers to the people who need to hear it the most, please do us a huge favor and if you haven't already, smash that subscribe or follow button wherever you guys are watching. 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Date: January 22, 2026
Host: Isabel Brown (The Daily Wire)
Main Topic: The NIH’s newly announced ban on funding research using elective abortion-derived fetal tissue in the U.S., its moral and scientific implications, and the cultural fight for life.
In this landmark episode, Isabel Brown unpacks a major pro-life victory: the National Institutes of Health (NIH) has officially banned its funding for research using fetal tissue derived from elective abortions. Joined by quotes and clips from NIH director Dr. Jay Bhattacharya and referencing pivotal moments and investigations from the past decade, Isabel places this news in the context of both scientific development and the moral struggle around the sanctity of human life. The episode explores what this policy change means, the science behind it, and the response from both mainstream media and the pro-life movement.
“We’re saying not just the intramural research, but all of the support for the NIH has had... for human fetal tissue research more broadly outside in universities, this derived from abortions is banned.”
— Dr. J. Bhattacharya (06:44)
“There’s no scientific harm to this. We’re still gonna be able to do the science we need... while at the same time getting rid of this... use of aborted human fetal tissue, which so many people, including me, find morally abhorrent.”
— Dr. J. Bhattacharya (08:07)
Scale of the Issue:
How Fetal Tissue is Acquired:
“Literally what they’re talking about is human trafficking, but nobody wants to call it that but that’s what it is.”
— Isabel Brown (18:35)
Undercover Exposés: Cites the work of David Daleiden and the Center for Medical Progress, whose undercover videos about Planned Parenthood’s role in fetal tissue procurement sparked outrage and legal proceedings (27:42–30:30).
“I might ask for a second set of forceps. Hold the body at the cervix and pull off the leg.”
— Planned Parenthood Exec, undercover footage (27:42)
Media & Legal Pushback:
“Who sold you the organs? I mean, you literally cannot make this stuff up.”
— Isabel Brown (37:54)
“To say, I’m not comfortable doing harm... exploiting an innocent person’s body who did not consent to being experimented upon... we have to constantly fight for restoring human dignity.”
— Isabel Brown (42:02)
“Thank you Dr. J. Bhattacharya. Thank you to the NIH, thank you to the Trump administration for taking on such an exciting new position of leadership and moral clarity on this issue. And now we pick up the torch and head to the next fight.”
— Isabel Brown (43:38)
Dr. Bhattacharya on the scientific case (11:33):
“If you look at the actual data on the use of NIH funds for this during the Biden administration, there was a sharp drop in spending on human fetal tissue research. And the reason is very simple, is because of the advances in alternatives to the human fetal tissue.”
On public health and moral concerns (12:51):
“If there are large numbers of people with moral systems that say... if you don’t go down this line and use research... with aborted fetal, human fetal tissue, I’m not going to... use it. Well, what good was the research if a large part of the population feels ethically bound not to participate or use the products of that research?”
— Dr. Bhattacharya
On media response to exposés (37:54):
“Who sold you the organs? I mean, you literally cannot make this stuff up. The level of interference that the media runs for Planned Parenthood always has and will continue...”
— Isabel Brown
On the fight ahead (43:19):
“We will be at the March for Life tomorrow... to again, courageously say that we are fostering a culture of life.”
Isabel Brown frames the NIH’s decision as a watershed moral and scientific victory for the pro-life movement in America. She emphasizes the ongoing need for vigilance—both in advocacy and in science—as cultural battles over the value and dignity of human life continue. The episode invites listeners to celebrate, reflect, and renew their commitment to fostering a pro-life culture, while exposing the historical and systemic challenges faced along the way.