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The American Church Has A Problem: The Woke Clergy Is Losing the Plot

The Isabel Brown Show

Thu Dec 04 2025

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Episode Title: The American Church Has A Problem: The Woke Clergy Is Losing the Plot
Date: December 4, 2025
Host: Isabel Brown
Network: The Daily Wire

Main Theme

This episode addresses what Isabel Brown sees as a "crisis" within American Christianity: the growing influence of progressive, "woke" ideology among church leaders, including the affirmation of LGBTQ+ identities, changing church teachings to fit cultural trends, and the ordination of women. Isabel warns that such trends lead the church away from scriptural truth and toward self-affirmation at the expense of tradition, expressing concern about the spiritual and social consequences. The episode combines analysis, commentary, and numerous viral video examples to support these arguments.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. A Crisis of Identity and Truth in the American Church

Isabel opens by identifying “a severe problem” in the American Church, which she believes is "getting way too off the rails" by adopting the values of “the world” instead of upholding biblical truth.
- "The church has to stop making itself like the world because we are losing the plot to the Rainbow Mafia, to whatever woke demand of the left is currently popping up on your social media feed." ([01:49])

2. The Case of Pastor Phil’s Gender Transition (Example #1)

Isabel critiques a viral video of Pastor Phil Fanuf from Rochester, NY, announcing a gender transition to the congregation, highlighting both personal and theological challenges.
- Clip: Pastor Phil describes lack of parental support and calls the congregation to join in a “season of creative transformation.” ([03:50])
- “I'm not becoming a woman. I'm giving up pretending to be a man.” ([05:14])
Isabel expresses compassion for Pastor Phil, acknowledging the pain of identity struggles, but frames the issue as "brokenness" exacerbated by culture.
- “My heart honestly just breaks for this person, as it does for all people who are struggling to connect with the identity that God intentionally made them in.” ([05:23])
Central point: “It is becoming incredibly obvious to me that the American church has a serious problem, one that we can no longer continue to ignore.” ([06:56])

3. Examples of “Wokeness” in Worship

Isabel plays and critiques videos of churches:
- Pledging Allegiance to Drag Queens ([10:22])
- Pastor advocating taking children to drag shows as a sign of body positivity and openness ([12:12])
  - “Yikes. Insane." ([12:57])
- Criticism centers on the celebration/affirmation of LGBTQ+ experiences in church, arguing it's a departure from Christian teaching.

4. Progressive Theology: Abortion and Gender

Isabel examines “Progressive Christianity” video clips, particularly those where Reverend Caleb reinterprets Christian doctrines to support abortion and redefine gender roles.
- “If we discover that something we are saying or doing is causing harm to other people, then we should absolutely stop.” — Reverend Caleb ([16:21])
- “Let’s base life on scientific basis...life begins at conception...but, you know, okay, it doesn’t fit your clear twisting of Scripture…” — Isabel ([17:29])

5. The Episcopal and Mainline Protestant Shift

Examples of Episcopal priests affirming gay marriage, female ordination, and preferred pronouns ([18:52])
Isabel argues these leaders are “using position on the altar, at the pulpit, guiding and shepherding...to shove radically evil and arguably demonic influences down your throat.” ([19:12])

6. The Church as a Reflection of Self, Not Christ

“What’s happening to the American church is a sickness.” ([24:44])
Isabel argues the church is being “twisted” to reflect individual desires (sexual identity, affirmation), instead of calling adherents to transformation in Christ.
Example: Progressive clergy denying Mary’s virginity, reframing biblical prophecies ([22:26], [24:18])

7. Women in Church Leadership

Isabel distinguishes between women contributing to faith versus occupying priest/pastor roles, citing Jesus’ selection of only male apostles as precedent ([27:36])
Highlights viral clips of female priests/pastors advocating:
- For women’s ordination and LGBTQ affirmation ([29:26])
- “Welcoming and affirming churches,” where full participation is a right regardless of identity ([33:54])
- Substituting doctrine for “the God of self” ([34:57])

8. Redefinition of Prayer and Liturgy

Viral examples:
- The Sparkle Creed (“I believe in the non binary God whose pronouns are plural...”) ([48:59])
- Praying “Our Mother” or “Our Coach” instead of “Our Father” to avoid patriarchal implications ([50:41])
- Public figures like Brené Brown altering the Lord’s Prayer to fit personal preferences ([54:06])
- Isabel’s pushback: “Is this not the literal, only instructive prayer Jesus Christ himself wrote as an instruction manual for how to pray?” ([55:07])

9. Political and Cultural Influence

Critique of church leaders (e.g., woman Episcopal bishop at national prayer service) invoking biblical principles to argue for left-wing immigration or gender and sexuality policies ([44:14])
- Isabel reacts to perceived “surface-level” compassion masking radical policy recommendations.

10. Theological Arguments & Church Tradition

Isabel summarizes Catholic and broader Christian arguments against female ordination ([55:43]).
- Quotes a Catholic AI: “Men’s and women’s roles in the Church, while different, are complementary and equally dignified.” ([56:21])
Argues that secular accommodation weakens the church; “We have enough LGBTQ indoctrination in Hollywood and in our school system. We don’t need it at the pulpit.” ([58:54])

11. Call to Action and Closing Exhortation

Isabel closes by encouraging listeners to reject “woke insanity” in church leadership, seek truth, and pray for moral clarity.
- Quotes James 3:1 as a warning about the responsibilities of teachers ([61:15])
- Positive example offered: Bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel, who advocates for humility and self-negation ([62:19])
  - “Don’t think of yourself too much. It’s not about you, actually.” ([63:02])
Concludes with a call to prayer for the renewal and faithfulness of the American church.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Wokeness in the Church:
- “We have made ourselves, our sins, our opinions, God, and we are dragging other people down in the process with us.” (Isabel, [07:37])
On the Problem of Self-Affirmation:
- “100% of the viewpoints espoused by these pastors, priests...is replacing God with the God of self every single time.” (Isabel, [34:57])
On Female Ordination:
- “Women were never chosen by Christ to be the apostles...as America has begun normalizing this, I don't think it’s a coincidence...we are starting to see a severe degradation of the fundamental truth of God.” (Isabel, [27:36])
On the Sparkle Creed:
- “I believe in the non binary God whose pronouns are plural…” (Female pastor, [48:59])
- Isabel: “Actually recited at churches across America.” ([50:00])
On Redefining God:
- “Whether you pray our Father...our Mother...our Coach...whatever will elicit from you this sense of belovedness.” (Pastor, [51:49])
On Tradition and Apostolic Authority:
- “The reservation of the priesthood to men is rooted in the understanding of the sacramental nature of holy orders and the example set by Jesus Christ himself.” (Isabel, quoting Catholic AI, [56:00])
On Humility in Leadership:
- Bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel: “Don’t think of yourself too much...you are not the saint of all saints...other people were persecuted before you. You are no special.” ([62:19])

Timestamps for Major Segments

01:49 — Isabel introduces the main concern: the American church is “losing the plot.”
03:50 — Pastor Phil’s transition announcement to congregation.
05:14 — Pastor Phil: “I’m not becoming a woman. I’m giving up pretending to be a man.”
10:22 — “Pledging allegiance to drag queens” church segment.
12:12 — Pastor explains taking her 11-year-old to drag shows.
15:42 — “Progressive Christianity”: reinterpretation of Bible on abortion and gender.
18:52 — Episcopal priests: “Of course we’ll do your gay wedding.”
24:18 — Progressive pastor claims Mary wasn’t a virgin.
29:26 — “Female Catholic priest” from Catholic Apostolic Church in Los Angeles.
33:54 — Reverend Maddie: distinction between “welcoming” and “affirming” churches.
44:14 — Woman bishop at the national prayer service addresses President Trump.
48:59 — The Sparkle Creed recited in a Lutheran church.
50:41 — Rethinking “Our Father” prayer.
54:06 — Brené Brown and Jesuit priest discuss customizing the Lord’s Prayer.
61:15 — Quoting James 3:1, “Not many of you should become teachers…”
62:19 — Bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel on humility and faithfulness.

Tone & Style

Bold, impassioned, and overtly conservative. Isabel balances sarcasm, incredulity, and moments of genuine compassion (especially regarding identity struggles), all filtered through a traditional Christian theological lens. The commentary is fast-paced, highly reactive to social media content, and aims to mobilize listeners to see “woke” clergy as a clear and present danger to authentic Christianity.

Conclusion

Isabel Brown presents a sweeping critique of the “woke” direction of many American churches, focusing on what she views as the disintegration of Christian doctrine through progressive social and cultural accommodation—especially on issues of gender, sexuality, and church authority. She calls listeners to resist these trends, root themselves in traditional doctrine, and pray for the church’s renewal. The episode is filled with viral examples, memorable moments, and frequent calls to return to “truth with a capital T.”

For listeners new to this topic, this episode provides a comprehensive (and polemical) tour of the main themes animating contemporary right-of-center Christian critique of “woke church,” highlighted by viral incidents, direct scriptural application, and calls to action.

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Okay. I'm affirming certain things. I'm gonna say this out loud for the first time in front of all of you. I am a woman. I'm done preparing, or pretending, rather, to be a man. My parents really don't support me, but I'm planning on still being your pastor. I'm not going anywhere, and I am asking you to affirm me too, as I'm desperately seeking affirmation, considering my parents don't even support this announcement. Let me just say this right out the gate. First of all, my heart honestly just breaks for this person, as it does for all people who are struggling to connect with the identity that God intentionally made them in. I know it's so easy to just laugh at all of the insane, upside down woke reality of the rainbow jihad. I'm gonna keep saying that every day. Apparently this week it seems appropriate. But in truth, this is a really profound signal of a deep brokenness in an individual when the. The reality of who they are, who they were intentionally created to be, is something that they don't feel at home in. And I think a whole lot of that has to do with conditioning from our broken culture, constantly telling people that the only way to affirm themselves is to reject everything about themselves, ironically, the opp of what love actually looks like. But it's a signal that somebody is in a very, very broken state. And it's something that we should be extremely compassionate about, in truth, to tell the truth in love, because the world is shoving you more into dysphoria of who you actually are, against who you actually are. And I think it's up to us to tell the truth and be honest that people were intentionally created by a loving God on purpose and exactly as they are. That real affirmation looks like connecting with who you are now. Not after tens of thousands of dollars of mutilating surgeries, not after hormones that might render you infertile or dependent on the pharmaceutical industry for the rest of your life, not after changing your name, your identity, how you dress, your pronouns, your email signature, everything about you, but by just accepting who you are. But my heart breaks, particularly in this situation for this person, when this person is responsible for shepherding the souls of their entire congregation and attempting to guide them in truth toward unity with God. Who is the author of truth, the source of truth? Who is truth with a capital T? So this clip broke my heart on the face value initially, because I thought, oh my gosh, this is so sad. What a profoundly sad reality that this person is desperately seeking affirmation and thinks that the only way to do that is by rejecting his true identity. But it also sent me down an investigative spiral for the deeper uneasy feeling I was having to uncover just how far these churches, led by these types of pastors, have gone. And it is becoming incredibly obvious to me that the American church has a serious problem, one that we can no longer continue to ignore, and that if we are serious about loving our neighbor, if we are serious about the truth of God, if we are serious about following Jesus Christ, we have to identify now before it is too late. And we're getting there. With every passing day, we have allowed in the United States today a dark twisting of individualism to take root and to fundamentally transform the church to no longer be a reflection of Christ and what perfect unity with God in heaven looks like, but instead to allow the church to be a reflection of us. We have made ourselves, our sins, our opinions, God, and we are dragging other people down in the process with us. There's perhaps no more obvious example of what this looks like than the glorification of sexual sin and the influence of LGBTQ LMNOP ideology that you keep seeing clips of over and over and over again over the past few months. Just like the one we reacted to, but there's a whole lot more where that came from. And I want you to watch these. Not with the intention to laugh. Not with the intention to poke fun. Not with the intention to make a mockery, but instead with a heart of compassion to see just how far darkness, evil and sin have taken over even the church. This one went viral a few days ago of a congregation and that spent their time not pledging their allegiance to God, but pledging allegiance to drag queens. Watch this.

Conservative Commentator (12:57)

Yikes. Insane. As long as your body isn't hurting other people's bodies, it's good to tell my 11 year old boy that his body should be played with, that his body should be mutilated, that his body should be castrated. In search of affirmation. From who? From the world. This is a pastor telling you on why it's so important she brings her 11 year old son to drag shows back to the church insanity in just a moment. But first, a message from our friends at Meta. Meta is investing in people and communities across the United States to lead the nation in innovation and opportunity. They recently committed over $600 billion to strengthen commun, create meaningful workforce expansion opportunities and build out the next generation of AI technology and AI infrastructure. But this goes way beyond just technology. It's about real impact on real people. It means supporting new jobs that enable parents to provide for their families in their hometowns, giving them more moments to spend time with their loved ones. It means stronger local economies where small businesses can thrive and building the kind of future where our children will have incredible opportunities. This investment reaches into every corner of our country, from new job opportunities being built in local communities to workforce training programs that will help prepare Americans for tomorrow's careers. And as they build out the next generation of AI technology, we're building a stronger and more prosperous America. Because at the end of the day, American progress starts with people, with our families and with communities welcoming new opportunities for the next generation. And that's exactly what Meta's $600 billion commitment represents. A belief in America's potential and an investment in our shared future. You guys can learn more about what Meta is doing@meta.com BuildingAmerica it's not just drag. Unfortunately, there are 8 million examples. I'm sure we can all even think of just a few years ago, the original time that the sisters of what do they call themselves? Perpetual Indulgence. Drag group had mock crucifixions at Los Angeles Dodgers games. I mean, drag is making clearly a mockery of Christianity. But drag is not the only type of sexual sin that is being completed. Completely glorified, exonerated, celebrated in the American church today. There's one guy in particular we react to quite often who is the face of an account Called Progressive Christianity on Instagram. Reverend Reverend Caleb, who has a whole lot of really hot takes about religion as a reverend, but this one's particularly great. What does the Bible say about abortion? Here's what Reverend Caleb wants you to believe.

Conservative Commentator (24:44)

Studying Jewish prophecy. I feel like Reverend Caleb from America, preaching whatever ridiculous heresy you want to from the pulpit every Sunday, is probably more likely to misinterpret Scripture. But maybe that's just me. Maybe. Maybe that's just an observation. There is this insistence on dragging American politics, dragging our cultural norms of sin, dragging our own temptations, our own darkness, our own preferences, and injecting it into the American church Today. We have a problem. This is a pattern. These are not isolated incidents. What's happening to the American church is a sickness, honestly. And sickness, ironically, is something I've been thinking a lot about in my own life, too. How to prevent it. I want to talk to you guys today about something that's hit me really hard. After becoming a mom, I've realized that every decision I make isn't just about my health or me anymore. It's about showing up for my daughter Isla, being present for all of her milestones, and having the energy to keep up with her for decades to come. That is a totally different kind of motivation. But there's a real, real problem here. Our healthcare system is built to be reactive. You wait until something is really wrong and then you try to fix it. So when you want to take a proactive approach, it can be really hard to know where to even start. That is exactly why we have been partnering here on the show with our friends at Jevity. They make proactive health so much easier than ever. Jevoty offers different membership tiers so that you can choose what fits your health needs. You start with comprehensive at home blood draws, testing over 100 different health markers way beyond what your standard checkup ever covers. And then that leads into personalized health plans with custom supplement protocols, access to specialists for functional longevity for ongoing guidance, plus discounts on supplements and specialty testing along the way. Jevy is now available in 47 states across the country. So if you are ready to be there for the people that you love, not just today, but for decades to come, you guys can use Code Isabelle at the link in the show notes of Today's episode for 20% off because investing in your health now means so much more time with the people that matter the most. But I'm also seeing a concurrent thread that's being woven throughout all of these examples of something that very few people are really willing to talk about but honestly really needs to be addressed. And it's this idea of women taking on authoritative roles of pastoring congregations in various denominations throughout American Christianity. Countless clips that we just reacted to involved female priests or female pastors. Now, don't hear me say, by the way, as we get this started, that women can never speak up publicly before an audience about our faith or to share the truth of the gospel with a large audience of great influence. Countless women have done exactly that throughout human history and are among the greatest saints and doctors, the church doctors of the church that the church has ever known throughout thousands of years. I mean, Joan of Arc is hanging right behind my head, the literal goat Saint, Saint Therese, Mary Magdalene. We uniquely revere a woman for her role in salvation history, Mary the Mother of God, because she had a bigger impact than any other human being outside of her Son than anyone in history. When it comes to bringing people to God, women are uniquely used by God to transform the world for the better. But. And this is a big but. Women were never chosen by Christ to be the apostles. They were never, in nearly 2,000 years, chosen to be ordained as priests or chosen to have pastoral authority over the souls of a congregation during this lifetime. And as America has begun normalizing this, I don't think it's a coincidence to me that we are also starting to see a severe degradation of the fundamental truth of God. And as I started going down this rabbit hole and a clip came to mind that I had seen just randomly scrolling through TikTok a few weeks ago of a woman who now claims that she is a female Catholic priest in Los Angeles, California. If you want to see what the twisting of the word of God, of the church that Jesus established looked like in a perfect picture, particularly in an American picture, look no further than this woman who doesn't even call herself Father. So. And so as we refer to priests, obviously she calls herself Reverend Maddie.

Conservative Commentator (37:59)

No, that's not what the God of the Bible is telling you, actually. That's what the God of your social media algorithm, your personal perspective on the planet and woke twisted, arguably possessed individuals in the church are leading you to believe, not God. And this is what bothers me so much about all of this, honestly. Because if I can just take my politics hat off for a minute, which I think is important in the context of this conversation, and put on my theologian hat for a minute. Actual social justice, legitimate social justice. That term was coined by the church in order to actually serve legitimately marginalized people, to help people who are legitimately oppressed, to serve the poor, to help actual refugees, to advocate for actual people who have been cast aside by their society for whatever reason. Not to glorify and cement sin as normal in society or in the church. Not to facilitate mass illegal activity under the guise of compassion. That's actually trafficking children and babies across our southern border every day and bringing illegal guns and arms or arms and. And. And drugs across our southern border every single day. Not to make yourself feel better about yourself and compassion, allegedly, when you post a black square on your Instagram. But like actual legitimate social justice is a vehicle of the church to serve one another. Honestly don't know how these woke priests, pastors, whatever we want to call them, sleep at night, but I can tell you exactly how I sleep at night, which is like a freaking baby angel. Today's episode is brought to you by our friends at Helix. The holidays are here, which means your calendar is probably packed with hosting duties, shopping lists, and endless to dos. And when life gets that hectic, I should know as a new mom doing all of that plus sleepless nights at night. Sleep often takes a massive backseat, but that is exactly when you need it the most. 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I'm going to leave the me, me, me thing behind and allow myself to be radically transformed by sanctification. But this message that's often being purported, in many ways almost entirely being purported by female priests and pastors is a sick, disgusting weaponization of legitimate empathy, of legitimate social justice, of legitimate calling for the following of Christ, of the truth of the gospel. Instead, it is all about me and it is wrong. You guys might remember a few months ago, longer than a few months ago now, but the National Prayer Service that happened in January, I think it was the day after the inauguration where the bishop of the Episcopal Church here at the national shrine in Washington, D.C. gave quite the diatribe lecture behind the pulpit to President Trump and Vice President Vance and their families, lecturing them about what it means to be a good Christian. This clip is hilarious to me every time, because you can see J.D. vance start to almost laugh. He's the most uncomfortable, like, shifting in his seat, and Usha is like, stop it, stop it, honey, stop it. But look at everybody's face in the process, because it's priceless every single time. This, according to a woman bishop, first woman to hold the title, is apparently what it means to be a good Christian, if you recall from January.

Conservative Commentator (55:07)

Is this not the literal, only instructive prayer Jesus Christ himself wrote as an instruction manual for how to pray? It's as if they. And this is why I say this is almost like a demonic level of influence. And I don't like overusing that word. I say that repeatedly on the show because I really don't like overusing that word. It drives me nuts when people are like Taylor Swift. Music is demonic. Some songs suck, sure, but they're not demonic necessarily. This is like actual demonic influence. It is. This is. This is priests and multi million dollar authors with massive influences all over the planet trying to convince you that evil doesn't even really exist. Don't ask God to deliver you from evil, because evil really is just fear. It's really just shame. Um, no. Evil is very present and is rearing its ugly head in our world. So I think we have to ask ourselves point blank and honestly, even though it's an uncomfortable conversation to have, why are women not intended to be pastors or priests? This is clearly the logical conclusion of what happens when we glorify this. But it's not because God hates women or because he made us lesser than to the contrary. God loves women. He loves us deeply, immensely. He loves us enough to give us unique roles for how to bring people into the light and truth of God that are fundamentally separate from men. My friends started like a new ChatGPT thing called Truthly. It's a AI chat chatbot that is a Catholic AI Chatbot. And I loved the answer that Truthly gave me as to why women cannot be priests. I just said frankly, why can't women be priests? The reservation of the priesthood to men is rooted in the understanding of the sacramental nature of holy orders and the example set by Jesus Christ himself. There are several key reasons why the Catholic Church teaches that only men can be ordained as priests, and they go through the examples. First, that Jesus only chose men as his apostles. So we honor that. The unbroken tradition of apostolic tradition has always reserved priestly ordination to men for the last several thousand years. In the celebration of the Eucharist, the priest acts in Persona Christi in the person of Christ. Since Christ was a male, the priest as a representative of Christ is also male. To maintain the sacramental symbolism, the Church's magisterium, the entire teaching of the Church also strictly says that the Church has no authority to confer priestly ordination on women. But this is where I love their answer. It is so important to note that men's and women's roles in the Church, while different, are complementary and equally dignified. Women play crucial and invaluable roles in the life and mission of the Church, following in the footsteps of great saints like Mary, the Mother of God, and others. Oh, it's exactly what I said, right? I mean, there are countless women throughout history, throughout Thousands of years without whom we really wouldn't be here today, that made such a profound impact on humanity that they are counted among the greatest saints and doctors of the church the world has ever and will ever know. But when I'm looking at the American church today, across denominations, for the record, I'm often seeing an institution that is desperately trying to make itself as secular as possible in order to be more appealing to people. And I think that mirrors a lot of what we often see with insecurities in women. Right when we are insecure as teenagers and as adolescents, when we're trying to fit in in the popular crowd or trying to figure out our way through middle school and high school, girls feel this immense, insane pressure to change everything about ourselves to fit in. How many young adult novels and movies and coming of age stories on Broadway or in your favorite TV show or whatever have we seen repeated with that exact same mantra thousands upon thousands upon thousands of times, even just within our own lifetime? Because it's a universal truth. There is this immense pressure among women to conform ourselves to whatever is going to fit in to our environment and our surrounding. And that is what, with the rise of female ordination, I think we are now seeing with the American church. It is an institution that's desperately trying to make itself more like the world, rather than trying to make the world more like the church, but draping rainbow flags on everything, changing the gender of God, and even changing doctrine and dogma to make it more palatable to people. These things, ironically, are not even what's appealing about Christianity to our generation and to a broken world, frankly. We have enough LGBTQ indoctrination in Hollywood and in our school system. We don't need it at the pulpit. We have enough feminization of men on our dating apps. We do not need it sitting in church pews. We have enough pro abortion propaganda on our social media feeds. We do not need woke pastors twisting scripture to become abortion apologists and spokespeople for Planned Parenthood. What we desperately do need is a home. A home that is in this world, but is not of this world. A home that is radically trying to transform our broken society rooted in sin to become more like the next one and to transform our souls in the process in holiness. As we pursue sainthood and unity with God in eternal life. Pastors have a special and massive, massive responsibility to shepherd that transformation, to guide our souls and to unite us with God. One of my favorite, actually perhaps is my favorite books in the Bible is the Book of James in the New Testament, which has this to say about this subject. James, chapter three, verse one says, not many of you should become teachers.

Conservative Commentator (63:02)

The exact opposite message, by the way, of everything you just heard, right? Don't think of yourself too much. It's not about you, actually. When people call you horrible names, when you're persecuted, when you find yourself in the crossfire, it's not even about you then, it's about God. How can you surrender everything about yourself to the God of the universe and ironically find yourself in the process even more? I so wish I could wave a magic wand and suddenly just halt the demonic evil that is creeping its way into the chur, particularly in America. I do have a foundational faith to fall back on. Luckily that the church which Jesus founded 2000 years ago does remain standing and that he promised Peter 2000 years ago that the gates of hell will never prevail against this church. But that doesn't mean Satan isn't going to try. And in the last couple of months, we talk about it a lot on the show. Spiritual warfare has become even more obvious than ever before. So I believe the most powerful thing that we can do, not as a last resort, but as a first line of offense, is to pray for truth, for courage among our leaders, both secular and religious alike, and for moral clarity in our upside down world to do and say what is right even when it is scary. Please, today, if you take five minutes at the end of this episode and just hit your knees and pray for that moral clarity in the church, I think we can radically transform it for the better. Am I overreacting here? Is this pattern that I'm seeing in the American church something that I'm fabricating out of nowhere or are you guys seeing it too? I'm dying to get your thoughts, so drop them in the comments section of today's episode. We will be back tomorrow. I'm headed to New York City this afternoon. The Big Apple, or as I like to call it, the Belly of the Beast. I will be back on CNN's panel tonight with Abby Phillips in the 10:00pm hour if you are interested in watching such a thing. I know I never thought I would tell you guys to turn on cnn, but I will be there for the whole hour so it should be really fun. Hopefully you guys will get to tune into that and we have a very special, fun different format of an episode to show you guys tomorrow from the Belly of the beast. See you then. Thanks for being here.

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