Podcast Summary: The Isabel Brown Show – "Trans Woman to Christian Man: Neeza Powers’ Radical Encounter with Jesus"
Date: October 10, 2025
Host: Isabel Brown (The Daily Wire)
Guest: Neeza Powers

Overview

On this episode, Isabel Brown sits down for an in-depth conversation with Neeza Powers, a widely followed social media figure and detransitioner who spent 12 years living as a transgender woman ("Nicole") before radically encountering Jesus Christ and embracing a new life as a Christian man. Neeza candidly shares his journey of personal transformation, his challenges with community acceptance, and his spiritual awakening—culminating in his journey toward the Catholic Church. The episode explores themes of identity, faith, detachment from social affirmation, sanctification, and the transformative power of religious conversion.

Major Discussion Points & Insights

1. Neeza’s Background and Initial Journey

• [00:00–02:54] Isabel introduces Neeza as a surprising figure—formerly a trans woman, now an outspoken Christian man and viral creator.
• Neeza lived for 12 years as Nicole, transitioning socially and medically before a "radical encounter" with Christ.
• Neeza’s story gained attention for its unfiltered documentation on TikTok and Instagram, inspiring millions.

Quote:
"Never in my wildest dreams did I ever expect that the most effective evangelizer... was a detransitioner."
— Isabel Brown [00:00]

2. Faith Awakening and Social Media Documentation

• [03:32–04:38] Neeza explains that, after his encounter with Jesus, he felt alone and unsupported by former friends and the trans community.

• Foundered on affirmation elsewhere, he turned to social media:

  • "I didn't really have an outlet... So the only place I had to turn was sticking a phone in my face... I'm a Christian, who's willing to support me?" [03:32]

• Day 121 as a Christian: Social media became a supportive community, especially among Christians offering unconditional fellowship.

Quote:
"Christians say, I don't care where you came from, you're my brother in Christ now and let's move forward."
— Neeza Powers [04:18]

3. The Light Bulb Moment: Rediscovering Masculinity

• [05:18–06:53] Neeza describes a mystical experience during meditation that led to recurring visions of Jesus, convincing him of his identity as a man.
• He stresses the physical and spiritual transformation (“I’m in the gym, I’m playing tennis... actually taking care of the body that I was gifted by God” [05:18]).

Quote:
"I can't really describe it. Anything less than a miracle."
— Neeza [06:28]

4. Day One Reflections: Early Faith and Vulnerability

• [07:09–10:26] Isabel and Neeza listen/react to Neeza’s very first “Day One of Being a Christian” TikTok, expressing confusion, vulnerability, and gratitude for believers’ guidance.
• Neeza didn’t grow up in a faith-based household and relied on the internet community for spiritual support.

Quote:
"If you have anything, any advice about reading the Bible, about learning about Christ, please drop them in the comments. Because when I say I’m a newbie, that is an understatement."
— Neeza (from TikTok) [09:16]

5. Looking Back 120 Days Later: Personal & Spiritual Growth

• [11:04–12:16] Reflects on how different he is now compared to the start: "I don’t even recognize myself then... it's kind of uncomfortable looking at that."

6. Trans Identity: ‘Pretending’ and Cultural Pushback

• [12:16–14:27] Isabel asks about Neeza’s now-controversial language ("pretending to be a woman"). Neeza explains the process of acting the role, acknowledging it would've been unacceptable to his past self.

Quote:
"Every aspect of your life is dedicated to fulfilling that fantasy."
— Neeza [13:48]

7. Detransition & Public Sharing: Risks, Criticism, and Community

• [16:25–18:47] Sharing the journey draws both support and backlash, including criticism from some pastors who encouraged Neeza to continue presenting as female.
• Neeza believes affirmation-only environments can be unhealthy, arguing for living in “truth and reality” for lasting joy.

Quote:
"If you want people to be joyful, then let this message out."
— Neeza [16:25]

8. Physical and Emotional Realities of Detransitioning

• [19:10–20:28] Even after years on hormones and surgeries, Neeza urges, "It’s never too late to accept truth." Encourages compassion for others making this journey, referencing the "It’s not your fault" scene from Good Will Hunting.

9. Dating as a Detransitioner

• [20:28–22:28] Neeza describes meeting his girlfriend, Charlotte, and the difference authenticity made: "If you approach a situation and say, look, I was wrong... and she's like, I don't know Nicole, I know Niza. It was simple."

10. Entering the Catholic Church: First Mass and OCIA

• [22:28–27:41] Neeza shares videos of first time attending Mass—overwhelmed but peaceful, feeling both excitement and anxiety about being accepted.
• Attending and loving RCIA/OCIA (conversion classes); describes the journey as a deep dive into the history and spiritual richness of Christianity.

Quote:
"That first time going to Mass was probably the most peace I ever felt since that interaction with Christ."
— Neeza [26:09]

11. Surprising Discoveries: Mary, the Rosary, and Tools for Faith

• [28:16–30:04] Learning about Mary and the devotional practices of Catholicism has been unexpectedly powerful for him, leading to new forms of prayer and connection.

12. LGBTQ, the Church, and Transformation

• [30:04–32:20] Isabel and Neeza discuss inclusion of LGBTQ individuals in church. Neeza encourages LGBTQ folks to “go somewhere you'll be unrecognizable in 100 days”—to seek real transformation rather than mere affirmation.

Quote:
"If you go in as a gay man or a gay woman... and you truly surrender your life to the Lord, it's impossible for you to remain in that lifestyle."
— Neeza [31:17]

13. Pastoral Care and True Affirmation

• [32:40–34:59] Neeza credits his priest for being consistently present, supportive, and always calling him to deeper truth—never affirming past behaviors, but challenging with love and Scripture.

14. Churches that Affirm Sin & Cultural Christianity

• [34:59–37:44] Pushback on "affirming churches" and the dangers of watering down truth for cultural acceptance.
• Neeza warns that true Christian leadership means guiding people toward conversion, not just comfort.

Quote:
"Will [God] say, 'Well done,' or will He say, 'What is the Sparkle Creed?'"
— Neeza [36:16]

15. Spiritual Warfare and Division in the Modern Church

• [37:44–41:30] Reevaluation of spiritual influences—Neeza suspects that the strong anti-Catholic sentiment is a sign of the Church’s spiritual importance:
  • "If evil is actually working in this world ... wouldn't they paint something out that is absolutely perfect... out to be the enemy?" [39:57]

16. Catholic Church: Apostolic Succession, Tradition, Universality

• [41:30–43:28] Neeza discusses the appeal of historicity and unity in the Catholic Church, contrasting it with denominational fragmentation.

Quote:
"There’s been one church since the start ... that’s the Catholic Church. They’ve been doing it the right way."
— Neeza [41:55]

17. What’s Next? The Future of Neeza’s Journey

• [44:21–45:35] Neeza will continue sharing his faith and story, letting God unfold the future. Expresses gratitude for faithful companionship, joy, and ongoing sanctification.

18. Advice for Others: On Courage and Boldness in Faith

• [46:21–47:09] To others, Neeza advises: "Seek truth above all else... Don't be afraid if you can't see the future.” Encourages surrender to God for true courage and fulfillment.

Notable Quotes

• On community acceptance:

  "Overwhelmingly, Christians say, I don't care where you came from, you're my brother in Christ now." — Neeza [04:18]

• On detransitioning:

  "It is never too late to say, I was wrong... you can work through these things, and it is not your fault." — Neeza [19:25]

• On transformation:

  "Go somewhere that you'll be unrecognizable in 100 days... Don’t go someplace that will affirm your lifestyle." — Neeza [31:05]

• On Catholic discovery:

  "When I did start praying the rosary, I felt something great happen." — Neeza [28:53]

• On facing backlash against Catholicism:

  "If that's a cult, that I want to be there. That's Christianity at its most primitive, at its most full." — Neeza [42:09]

• On what’s next:

  "When I surrendered… I didn’t know what was waiting… But what was waiting on the other side is pure joy." — Neeza [44:39]

Timestamps of Important Segments

• [03:32] — Neeza describes social media as a lifeline for support after conversion.
• [05:18] — Radical visions and the encounter with Jesus.
• [07:09] — Day one TikTok: The vulnerable start of publicly sharing his faith.
• [12:16] — On "pretending" and the construct of trans identity.
• [19:10] — Physical aftermath of detransitioning and message of hope.
• [20:28] — Dating honestly post-detransition.
• [22:28] — First time at Catholic Mass; initial feelings and video reflections.
• [28:16] — Surprising discoveries about Mary and Catholic devotions.
• [31:00] — Advice for LGBTQ seeking faith: pursuit of transformation, not affirmation.
• [36:16] — On churches that affirm sin: “What is the Sparkle Creed?”
• [41:55] — Neeza’s perspective on church unity and Catholic historicity.
• [44:21] — Looking ahead: Neeza’s future and ongoing mission.
• [46:21] — Neeza’s advice to listeners on courage in living their truth.

Tone and Language

The dialogue is transparent and emotive, blending honest testimony with encouragement and religious conviction. Isabel’s tone is warm, supportive, and admiring, facilitating space for Neeza’s vulnerability and spiritual insights. Neeza’s language ranges from confessional to mystical to didactic, frequently expressing awe, gratitude, and humility about his ongoing transformation.

For those who haven’t listened, this episode offers:

• An inside look at the journey of faith and identity from a detransitioner’s perspective.
• Honest discussion of the personal and social challenges of leaving the transgender and LGBTQ communities.
• Insight into the appeal and process of joining the Catholic Church as an adult convert.
• Encouragement for seekers and those struggling with identity, faith, and authenticity.
• A witness to how radical personal change is possible through faith—delivered in real time, with humility and hope.