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It's come to my attention that leftist moms are melting down over a potential link between Tylenol and autism because it came from the Trump administration. So they're on the path to overdosing on acetaminophen. Plus, the actual health experts might need a diagnosis of their own of Trump derangement syndrome. As we ask all the right questions. What causes autism in the first place? There's a lot to learn. We're going to break it all down right here on the Isabel Brown Show. Obviously, this should go without saying. Over the past few days, I've been incredibly busy re everything associated with Charlie Kirk. We've been traveling. Now we're back. So I haven't really been keeping up much with news of the day until yesterday before bed, when I was just scrolling through my phone to catch up with what's going on in the world. But before we even start this episode, I should say there's some big news of the day today that there has been another tragic shooting in the United States at an ice facility in Texas. As we are recording this this morning, there are still a lot of details that we don't know. So we are eagerly keeping up with all of that information and praying for anyone who may have been involved in this catastrophic event. Clearly, there is such a good and evil problem happening in our culture, and it's up to us to continue fighting for the good every single day. So we'll keep you guys updated on that as we learn more. But. But one of the other big news of the day stories that really has popped up in the last 24 to 48 hours has been this new conversation surrounding Tylenol and a potential link to autism in children. I did not watch the press conference from the Trump administration as this came out. Really, the first that I heard about it was that I came across the most bizarre TikTok trend of all time. And that's saying something because I've seen a lot of crazy stuff on TikTok over the past few years. Okay. I endlessly, mindlessly scroll through the Internet so that you don't have to and bring the darkness into the light. This might genuinely be one of the craziest things I've ever seen ever on the Internet, which is insane that I'm even having to put that qualifier out there. It seems to me that pregnant women, in an attempt to own Donald Trump or to somehow prove that that they are anti Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. As our HHS Secretary, pregnant women are downing endless pills of Tylenol after multiple medical Studies have been conglomerated to suggest that there may in fact be a link statistically between prenatal Tylenol use and autism. But we gotta stick it to Trump, don't we? Just watch this. About to take Tylenol for my headache while pregnant because I don't take my medical advice from a man who doesn't have a degree in science, health care or medicine and who had a parasitic brain infection and was addicted to heroin for 14 years. Yeah, I'll trust my doctors who have their degree. So this ends up being the trend over and over and over again. Everyone on TikTok, particularly pregnant women, are saying we don't take our medical advice from anyone who's not a doctor. I'm only going to take my medical advice from people with medical degrees. Okay, well we'll get to the studies from people with actual medical degrees that have allowed us to arrive at this conclusion. But basically it's like a same script situation and we see this a lot on the left where they literally just end up posting the exact same thing over and over and over again. I what, three, four months ago, every single major huge influencer on TikTok was all getting paid clearly from the same consulting firm that eventually probably tied back to the Democrat party in some capacity where they were all saying that it's unhuman, it's against humanity to round people up in the streets and to rip them away from their families and deport them, when clearly that was not actually what was going on, but like fashion influencers and sports influencers and all of these crazy people with huge followings on TikTok were basically reading the exact same script in all of the videos that they were posting. That clearly is exactly what's happening right now. So I would love for some Internet sleuth. I am putting this challenge out there for all of you who are way better at the deep dive FBI style investigations on the Internet than I am to uncover who is behind this particular script to. But every single video on my TikTok for you page right now is a pregnant woman saying we don't trust people without medical degrees to tell us about Tylenol and I'm going to take all of these pills while I'm pregnant. There are countless videos like that one that I just showed you. Here are just a couple of other ones. It's the here's is me at the beginning for me, which I didn't catch originally, but when we reacted to that on TikTok, everyone was pointing it out in the comments. Here's is me, a pregnant woman, taking Tylenol because I don't take my medical advice from someone who doesn't have a medical degree. She's not the only one. There are many more. What? So not one, not two, but three separate bottles, gigantic pill bottles of Tylenol out on the counter, insinuating that, what, you're gonna take pills from all three bottles today as a heavily pregnant woman to stick it to Donald Trump again? This is every video on my feed right now, not just those three. We could spend three hours reacting to every single one of them. But to spare your sanity, we'll keep it at those and I want to be abundantly clear here right at the beginning of this conversation, I. I am not here today. And this show is never going to be here to make any specific medical claims or to give you medical advice from the mouth of me. As you guys may know, if you've been following my story for a while, I do have two degrees in biomedical sciences, one from undergrad and one from grad school. I was on the track to go to medical school, but I decided not to because God led my life in a completely different direction. So I'm not ever going to pretend to be the resident expert on any of these things. We'll do all of the research and we will ask all of the experts when it comes to conversations like this. More on that with this conversation coming later this week. But I do think that we should be able to have these conversations openly and without fear of censorship, because it's only through being able to ask all of the right questions, being able to do the actual scientific method of asking the big question, then looking at all of the research, then narrowing down all of the research to see how it answers our question, to arrive at the right conclusion that we are able to understand what it truly means to follow the science, not just blindly trusting the Anthony Fauci's of the world, who unilaterally, Allah, Emperor Palpatine, declare themselves I am the science. It has to start with being able to have real conversations and asking real questions. And side note, by the way, YouTube announced yesterday that accounts that were previously permanently banned for political speech would be eligible for reinstatement on the platform. And. And the tech giant acknowledged past pressure that just like Metta, they were facing under the Biden administration to specifically remove COVID 19 content. Hmm, that sounds really familiar to me from some other conversations we've been having. And it feels like very auspicious timing with this being the second biggest national conversation related to Tylenol's potential link to autism right behind Charlie's assassination. It's almost as if, when you elect the right people and you know that there's going to be consequences for thwarting people's freedom of speech, these platforms all of a sudden wake up and dust the wall out of their eyes and say, hmm, maybe we should let people have honest conversations. So now that I think we have confidence, I think we all should have confidence that we can have this conversation freely, I do think it's important for us to ask ourselves, what did the Trump administration actually say? Why. Why are people reacting this way on the Internet? And what are the next questions that we need to be asking ourselves? I said this on TikTok last night to you guys, and I know a lot of people are probably already going to come at me for this, but I will say up front, I was just pregnant. I did just have a baby. And during my pregnancy, when I needed to, with a really severe headache or whatever, I would take Tylenol. My daughter Isla is perfectly healthy. She's almost five months old. She's very advanced developmentally. There are no concerns with neurodevelopmental issues. But I'm a little mad, I'm a little angry. And if I could go back and make different decisions, I probably would. And I'm saying this as someone who is highly educated, as a scientist, who has done a lot of research on all of this stuff, who did ask diligently every single medical professional in her life what was safe or not safe to take during pregnancy. And I always tend to err on the side of caution. I'm frustrated that even after doing a bunch of research and asking all of these questions, I was repeatedly by every single doctor that I saw throughout my pregnancy in two separate states, first in Florida and then here in Washington, D.C. when we moved, which was a lot of doctors at these big practices here at D.C. at our practice, I saw probably 10 different OB GYNs during the third trimester of our pregnancy because we would rotate every single time we went into the office. I was repeatedly told by every single one of these licensed healthcare practitioners, the experts, the people who are more educated than I am on this stuff, that Tylenol not only was safe, but was the only safe thing for me to be taking for pain management while I was pregnant, for headaches, for leg cramps, etc. I've shared this a little bit with you guys, and we're not totally ready to share everything with everyone yet, but I've been struggling through a potential autoimmune diagnosis this last year. So I deal with a lot of aches and pains right now, and I was repeatedly told that the only thing I was allowed to take no alternatives was Tylenol. So I think it's fair for moms to start scratching our heads and asking ourselves, not blaming ourselves, let me start with this. Not blaming ourselves for some problem that we may have inflicted upon our children because we didn't just know any better, but at least rewinding and asking ourselves, is that decision safe for us to be making moving forward? Forward. There is an immediate backlash response from anyone who claims to hate Donald Trump and anyone who claims to be classically liberal or leftist in America, who thinks that there's this sinister agenda from the Trump administration to instate fascism in our country to immediately say anything that comes out of this man's mouth is wrong. But what they're not realizing is this wasn't just Donald Trump, like, speaking off the cuff about the potential risks of Tylenol. This wasn't just a politician trying to tell you what the government is going to make you or not make you do. This was the result of years upon years upon years of actual scientific research going into this from experts and licensed medical professionals. And I think it warrants at least a long enough pause for us to say, huh, that's interesting. Maybe that should dictate different choices because we are more educated with advancing science and advancing medicine and, and advancing technology moving forward, right? But I'm a fascist for suggesting that. I guess my sleep has become one of, if not the most important things in my life, especially being a new mom to a five month old. And we're sleep regressing over here. You can take the Helix Sleep quiz to get matched with your perfect mattress just like I did to improve your sleep. It only takes a few minutes. On their website, visit helix sleep.comisabel to get 25% off skill sitewide. That's helixsleep.comisabelle for 25 off site wide. Make sure you enter our show name after you check out so that they know that we sent you again one more time. That's helix sleep.com Isabel for this exclusive offer. And it's not just random women downing Tylenol bottles on TikTok. By the way, this immediate backlash response hesitation to anything that may be an actual scientific advancement coming out of right now in America because it's loosely affiliated with the Trump administration. This backlash is coming from actual health care practitioners who are losing their minds over the idea that what they may have studied in med school or what they have repeatedly been taught to practice in continuing education may not continue to be the science that we use moving forward. Again, I'm not just seeing random anti Trump pregnant women making these videos literal OB gyns. Board certified physicians who claim to be completely unbiased, completely driven by the science, completely driven by the research have no ill will towards any political nuance to this whatsoever. These OB GYNs are now gaslighting women into thinking that actual scientific research is not based in science because it doesn't fit their preferred political agenda. This one OB GYN for example. And we'll show you her TikTok feed right now named Dr. Jennifer Lincoln. This is her TikTok feed has almost 3 million followers as a board certified OB GYN. Of course her pinned video right there at the top is her with Obama talking about abortion and Roe v. Wade. So tell me again how you're not politically motivated in your content. Dr. Jennifer Lincoln ended up posting and it has about 50,000 views as of this morning. A several minute video explaining why everything Donald Trump said is wrong. Everything Donald Trump said is wrong. Here's how she ended this video about Tylenol and its potential link to autism. So if you're like so pro life like, help me understand. The take home message is that we.
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Don'T take medical advice from people who.
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Don'T have medical degrees and that includes Trump as well as the person he.
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Appointed to be the Head of Health and Human Rights Human Services.
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So this is America. It's where we're at. Please talk to your healthcare providers if.
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You have concerns or questions, they should.
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Be able to engage with you. Respectfully, not wellness influencers online. Because when I whisper as an OB gyn I know that I am the moral superiority on everything. Of course, of course we should only trust the licensed OB GYNs. We should only trust board certified physicians because only those people are sound and smart and wise when it comes to real science. Right? But here's Another video on Dr. Jennifer is in Dr. Jennifer Lincoln. I just call her Dr. Jen's tick tock this you this you girl Pride month and I'm an OB gyn.
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So I need you to know this. Not only women can have babies, have.
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Abortions and before you go and freak out my comment section, here's what's up. Anyone with a uterus can get pregnant. Not all people with a uterus identify as a woman. So if someone is transgender and they're.
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A trans man, but they have a uterus and they get pregnant and they identify as a man.
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Then guess what? That's a man who's pregnant. And they call me the insane one. They say I'm not the real scientist. These are board certified physicians. You guys might remember. About a year ago this fall I appeared on a friend of mine's podcast, Ellen Fisher, who I love, I absolutely adore Ellen, alongside a doctor who also previously went viral for debating with Michael Knowles, who is a board certified family medicine physician who also works in labor and delivery. And at that time I was about 10 weeks pregnant, 11 weeks pregnant. So we weren't telling people obviously, but was very early on in my pregnancy sitting across from this doctor who's my age, literally telling me that men can get pregnant with a lot less nuance than what this doctor Jen ended up saying on her TikTok. So these are board certified physicians, very well educated medical experts, and they're the ones freaking out about you listening to updated science because it came from someone without a medical degree. I mean, honestly, can we not give people the benefit of the doubt that they might be smart enough to do the bare minimum research from the actual medical experts on this stuff? They are so angry. Beyond angry. Like seething steam coming out the ears. Angry about RFK being our current HHS secretary because Secretary Kennedy isn't a medical expert. He's not a board certified physician. Well, first of all, he's dedicated decades upon decades upon decades of his life to actual expert medical research. Like this has been his career path for a very long time, whether he has an MD behind his name or not. But these are the same people, by the way, who five minutes ago were completely ecstatic with every decision coming out of the Health and Human Services Department from a non scientist under the Biden administration when it fit their political narrative and when it was rooted in their version of science. Let's not forget Javier Becerra, our previous HHS secretary under the Biden administration was not a doctor. He was a lawyer, a prosecutor, someone who actually spent decades of his life in his former career as a prosecutor going after anyone protesting abortion because he wanted to silence any scientific conversation about when life begins or whether a child is a human being in the womb or whether we should afford the same human rights to anyone of the human species. So given the choices between the non MDs who previously have served as HHS secretary, I will gladly pick someone who is actually well educated in this stuff and has spent decades of his life dedicated to it. But as I'm watching this response from all of these Doctors. The scientists in me started to get really, really intrigued. And I wanted to ask myself, okay, what did they actually say from this press conference with Secretary Kennedy and President Trump this week? Because it can't really be that bad, can it? 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I want to be abundantly clear here, just to avoid any confusion whatsoever, the Trump administration did not get up behind a podium and say verbatim, Tylenol causes autism. To the contrary, actually, they said, well, we don't know that this is a direct cause. This could theoretically be a cause of autism. And it's something that we're looking into because as we have amalgamated countless peer reviewed studies on this subject, it's becoming really, really clear to actual scientific experts that there isn't just a casual potential link here. This is an observed pattern of behavior and it's something that Warrants a whole lot more research. So what did Secretary Kennedy actually say? You can listen to his own words for yourself right now.
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Important findings from our autism work that are vital for parents to know as they make these decisions. First, HHS will act on acetaminophen. The FDA is responding to clinical and laboratory studies and suggests a potential association between acetaminophen used during pregnancy and adverse neurodevelopmental outcomes, including later diagnosis for ADHD and autism. Scientists have proposed biological mechanisms linking prenatal acetaminophen exposure to altered brain development. We have also evaluated the contrary studies that show no association. Today, the FDA will issue a physician's notice about the risk of acetaminophen during pregnancy and begin the process to initiate a safety label change. HHS will launch a nationwide public service campaign to inform families and protect public health. FDA also recognized that acetaminophen is often the only tool for fevers and pain in pregnancy, as other alternatives have well documented adverse effects. HHS wants therefore to encourage clinicians to exercise their best judgment and the use of acetaminophen for fevers and pain in pregnancy by prescribing the lowest effective dose for the shortest necessary duration and only when treatment is required.
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What am I, what is bad about that? What am I missing from this? Because everyone's screeching like a banshee on the Internet, is saying, well, what about fevers? What. What about. What about what? He. He addressed every single what about in this press conference? Hey, this is a very clear, observable pattern that we have seen. We're going to keep researching that because it warrants more research. So we're going to take that on at hhs. We're going to use the actual science that we have here to change maybe the safety label on the bottle to educate pregnant women a little bit better because it hasn't been communicated to people. And when acetaminophen is. Is absolutely necessary for stuff like lowering fevers to prevent miscarriages, we are going to encourage clinicians to use their best judgment, as is their right in a physician's office, to prescribe the lowest possible dose to keep everyone safe in the process. What is controversial about that? I feel like I am being the gaslit into being the crazy one here. I hear that. And I'm like, yeah, okay, sounds legit. Sounds totally reasonable. He references this actual series of studies that there is an amalgamation of studies that has now come together. This came out last month and was an actual series of studies that was put together into one peer reviewed article from several healthcare practitioners and research experts. We'll put up the name of the study for you guys so that we can look this up. It's the evaluation of the evidence of acetaminophen use and neurodevelopmental disorders using the navigation guide methodology. If you look up that name, it will come up for you as an actual peer reviewed study published. And the people that put this together are top top clinicians, people who are deans of faculty, people who lead research teams all over the country, including at Mount Sinai and Harvard Medical School, Harvard School of public health, etc. They found in their results that they looked at 46 separate studies for inclusion in their analysis. So four 46 different peer reviewed studies were put together used for this meta level analysis. Of them, 27 of the studies reported positive associations between taking Tylenol when you're pregnant and when you give your children and infants toddler age Tylenol and later on diagnoses of neurodevelopmental disorders, which is not just autism, but does include stuff like ADHD and autism, etc. Nine of them showed no significant link or a null association and four of the studies indicated negative associations, saying it actually does the opposite. Higher quality studies, this is important, were more likely to show positive associations. Let me read that again. Higher quality studies, when they actually take this stuff seriously, were more likely to show positive associations, meaning that there is a link between taking Tylenol when you're pregnant and a potential neurodevelopmental disorder for your child later on. This was published alongside a statement from one of the main researchers in this study. We can go to the next thing from Dr. Andrea Baccarelli. I hope I'm saying her name correctly. She is a double doctor, MD, PhD, who is the dean of the faculty at the Harvard School of Public Health, Harvard Chan School of Public Health. Colleagues and I recently conducted a rigorous review funded by a grant from the National Institute of Health. Oh, interesting. We love the NIH grants, I thought from the left. And they're angry that they're getting rid of NIH grants for stupid studies that don't need to be in existence, but this is when they are properly being used. I thought, hmm, not what it's tied to Trump, I guess, of the potential risks of acetaminophen use during pregnancy. We reviewed 46 previously published human studies worldwide. We found evidence of an association between exposure to acetaminophen during pregnancy and increased incidence of neurodevelopmental disorders in children. This association is the strongest when it is regularly taken for four weeks or longer. They then have a nuance later on down in this statement. At the same time, this is the only approved medication for pain and fever reduction during pregnancy, so it does remain an important tool for pregnant patients and their physicians. Higher fever can pose risks to both the mother and the fetus, including neural tube defects and preterm birth. I love that we're using the word mother by the way now. Thank you for sanity returning to science instead of birthing person. Different conversation for a different time. This was published a month ago. Didn't just randomly come out with Trump deciding to talk about autism from behind a podium. This was published a month ago from the dean of the faculty at the Harvard School of Public Health using an NIH grant to amalgamate actual scientific research over and over and over again. I don't know what else these people could possibly have wanted from the experts, the actual scientists, the double doctor. This woman isn't even just an MD, MD, PhD is what we're talking about. What, what more could you possibly want? I don't know. Without getting way too much into the actual scientific method of how Tylenol works, because I took pharmacology once upon a time. It was the one of the worst classes I took in college and was one of the reasons I thought, you know, I don't think I want to do this for a living because memorizing mnemonics and stupid little poems and songs to remember the actual non brand names of medications made me want to blow my brains out. But just for the record, as this is all starting to come out, the general thought here is that acetaminophen, which is the generic drug name for Tylenol, in case that's not immediately obvious, is raising some eyebrows in the scientific community generally because they're worried that acetaminophen is specifically limiting a specific detoxification process in the human body. This hypothesis is that when you keep taking acetaminophen over and over and over again, especially for weeks on end during very critical windows of neurodevelopment. So that includes when you are pregnant and that's being passed on to your baby, or when your baby is an infant or a toddler, it might deplete something called glutathione. Glutathione, Tomato, tomato. Which impairs detoxification. So it limits your body's ability to use your liver to. To detox bad things out of your body and can cause heavy metal detoxification. Heavy metal toxification and all kinds of stuff in your body related to oxidative stress and neuroinflammation. So basically all of the bad stuff that's in your body can't get out of your body because the compound that breaks those things down is being depleted as you are taking Tylenol over and over and over again. That is the level of pharmacology we are covering on this show. And please go listen to doctors talk about this on their doctor podcasts. But that's generally the school of thought that these actual medical professionals have observed over and over and over again. And in amalgamating, 46 different peer reviewed studies have found that the higher quality studies are indeed proving a link between taking Tylenol acetaminophen and these neurodevelopmental disorders in children. Again, I actually am kind of angry with myself as a mom and as a scientist for not taking the time to go look up these previously published 46 peer reviewed studies. But I also am trying to give myself some grace. And I think all moms need to give themselves some grace. Who on God's green earth is going to read 46 separate peer reviewed studies in order to make sure that every single thing that we are taking is safe? We can't reasonably be expected to do that. What you should reasonably expect is that you can sit in your ob GYN office and ask your board certified physician, someone who is reading all of these studies, is this safe for me to take and what are the potential downsides? I was consistently told, and I think every mom with little babies today was consistently told there are no negative side effects essentially of this. They're so rare, don't even think about them. They don't even exist, statistically speaking. I don't know about that. And I'm frustrated that we didn't have reasonable access to what actual experts should have been telling us for the last several years. Interestingly, Tylenol has now come out and responded. The manufacturer of Tylenol has now come out and responded to this claim from the Trump administration. That isn't really from the Trump administration. It's from actual board certified physicians and actual research clinicians. And they provided an official statement of all places to CBS News. Feels a little weird to me. I don't know that this is how they responded to that instead of doing a press conference of their own in their statement to CBS News. Ken View. I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly. That's the other problem associated with Big Pharma is All of these things are impossible to pronounce, so they just bank on you never researching it yourself. The maker of Tylenol, by the way, this used to be under the umbrella of Johnson and Johnson. It has been separated out in the last several years. The tinfoil hat person in me wonders why when it comes to potential litigation, but they are now their own company. Ken View, the maker of Tylenol, said independent sound science clearly shows that taking acetaminophen does not cause autism. I don't know that that's true. And the fact I'm not going to say that's wrong. It might be right, but why are we not even allowed to ask the question? That's what these other scientists are trying to do. They're just asking the big questions and trying to whittle down all of the research to arrive at an actual conclusion. Instead of what Tylenol is doing right here, they're telling you their scientific conclusion to then back up their hypothesis, which is the opposite of how the scientific method is supposed to work. We strongly disagree with any suggestion otherwise. They continue in their statement, not how science works, highlighting that the company says is the greater health risk for expecting mothers from other conditions if they give up on taking the drug. AKA you better take Tylenol when you're pregnant or you're probably going to have a miscarriage, or you're probably going to have a horrible pregnancy. Like, the risk is so much bigger to not take it, so you better take it. That is such weird behavior. Right? That's weird. Acetaminophen, they say, is the safest pain reliever option for pregnant women. That might be true, but that doesn't negate the fact that there could be negative side effects as needed throughout their entire pregnancy. Without it, women face dangerous choices. Suffer, suffer you must, through conditions like fevers that are potentially harmful to both mom and baby, or use riskier alternatives. Again, you heard two minutes ago from Secretary Kennedy, when there is a fever or a condition that actually warrants the necessity of taking Tylenol, use it. Use your best clinical suggestions for this, but just weigh the positives and the negatives. Why? Why is that so bad? The facts are. The facts are. We're going to tell you up front before we even ask the questions. Over a decade of rigorous research endorsed by leading medical professionals and global health regulators like the head of the whole WHO also isn't a physician, by the way, but you know, who cares confirms there is no credible evidence linking acetaminophen to autism. But then, of course, they have to add, probably for legal reasons, it will continue to explore all options to protect the health interests of American women and children. I mean, you genuinely cannot make this stuff up. So they're screaming at you through the venue of CBS News. Not their own Twitter account. They haven't tweeted in several years on their own Twitter account. Not their own press conference. They didn't hold a press conference. In the wake of President Trump and Secretary Kennedy holding a press conference, CBS News is the trusted venue of medical expertise for them to scream at you, you better take Tylenol while you're pregnant or else. But interestingly, while I was doing a bit of a deep dive on Tylenol's Twitter page to see if they did indeed put this statement out to the general public, they didn't. Back in 2017, they had a different tweet to put out that's now making the rounds and going viral again. Read this for yourself from the mouth of Tylenol, March 7, 2017. We actually don't recommend using any of our products while pregnant. Thank you for taking the time to voice your concerns today. I don't, I, I, I don't know what else to say. So in 2017, don't, don't, don't take it while you're pregnant, says the manufacturer of the drug. And here we are in 2025. And because any new evidence emerging that it's still, still same conclusion, not safe probably to take this while you're pregnant because it's loosely associated with Donald Trump and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. You better take it or your pregnancy is going to be horrible and your baby might die. Is Trump Derangement Syndrome that bad? I mean, I knew it was bad. We all knew it was bad. We all knew it was bad. But it's this bad. Really. I can't even rationalize the behavior of these people. And I hope you can't either. I hope this, at the very least makes all of us as a society, regardless of where you are falling on the political spectrum. Just to sit back for a second and say, huh, that's weird behavior. Maybe we should think about that a little bit more. I don't know. Just for kicks and giggles, I want to remind you guys again, because it's my favorite time of the year with my favorite prayer app, Hallow. This month, one of Hallow's most beloved prayer challenges is back the Saints in Seven Days series. The point is very, very simple. For just a few minutes every day to learn the story of a great saint throughout history and see how it might apply to your life too. The saints are not just these distant figures on stained glass windows that you only see in church on Sunday morning. They were real men and women, and they are still today, whose lives, with all of their struggles and triumphs, reveal the glory and the grace of God. And in discovering their stories, we may begin to see how God can work in our lives too. Back on September 15, the new Saints in 7 Days series started with King David, which was brought to life by Michael Iskender from the House of David series. David's story is one of my favorite and the most dramatic in Scripture. He was a shepherd turned warrior turned king turned poet. He was a flawed person, yes, but he always returned, turned with a passion to the Lord. His psalms still echo with raw honesty, repentance and trust. And it's why they reign so true for us today. This week they started the next saint in the series this month from Gwen Stefani, telling the story of Esther, the young queen who risked everything and stood before power to become God's instrument of salvation for her people. Coming up for the rest of the month, we're going to walk through the stories of Saint Therese of Lisu, one of my favorite favorites of all time, who shows us the holiness in the little way, our choices of everyday love and trust in our lives, and St Oscar Romero, who teaches us what it means to stand for truth and justice, even to the point of martyrdom and losing our lives for our faith together. All of these witnesses remind us that holiness is not one size fits all. It looks different for every single one of us called by God according to our own passions, interests, abilities and so much more. God writes his story in every single life, including yours. You can join us anytime for Saints in seven Days. You don't have to listen as it's coming out every Monday, but go back and listen to the old ones from previous years too, because they're really, really good. And you can get three months free at Hallow for any one of their prayer challenges, podcasts, meditations and so much more@halloween.com Isabel and beyond. The Trump isn't a doctor, RFK isn't a doctor hysteria that we're seeing from drug manufacturers, from ob gyns, and from the random women on TikTok who are now downing bottles of Tylenol. Please pray for the safety of those babies, by the way. Just please. There is a new weird social hysteria emerging in the last 12 hours or so of a new graphic Instagram post that is going viral and I'm going to preemptively call this the new Black Square. If you know, you know. Okay, from 2020 of the summer of Love, all of the people on the left wing of the political spectrum are posting this to their Instagram story. They're reposting it on Tik Tok. They're sharing it to their own Instagram feeds. It's going viral on X. I'm sure it's all over Blue sky. Although I value my sanity way too much to spend more than three seconds over there at a time. So please go fact check me on that. This new graphic was put up by the aapd, and ironically, it's the same people that are posting this that think it's okay to abort kids if they're disabled. We'll come back to that in a second. But the AAPD put this on Instagram. Autism doesn't need to be cured. And this is the new virtue signaling of everyone on the left saying, I'm such a good person. Everyone is valued equally. I need to make less of myself and more of people different from myself. Just like posting the black Square, just like posting the pride flag every month. Now I'm going to post this all over my social media pages. Autism doesn't need to be cured. This is the problem, by the way, with toxic empathy. Ali Beth Stuckey outlines this perfectly. She wrote a whole book about toxic empathy. She's the best person to articulate this I've ever seen in my life. You think you're saying something good. You think you're doing something good. You think you're contributing a net good to society, but in reality, what you're saying is like the dumbest, most ridiculous thing that you could possibly say. It makes absolutely no sense. There is nothing progressive about any of it. There is nothing pro human about any of it. There's nothing actually empathetic about any of it. It reminds me, by the way, of the fact that everyone's twisting a quote from Charlie in the mainstream media this week. When Charlie said, I don't really believe in empathy, of course they cut the quote there. He ends up saying, I believe a whole lot more in sympathy. Because empathy means you have to intimately feel what somebody else is feeling. And that's literally impossible for like 99% of situations. You can have sympathy for people and acknowledge that what they're going through is different from what you go through. But this whole everything has to be empathy driven concept is what leads us to post graphics on our Instagram story like, autism doesn't need to be Cured, huh? Again, I said the irony of all of this is that these are the same people who regularly argue with conservatives and pro life individuals that disabilities are actually so bad, so terrible, so anti human, that we should just abort disabled people before they are ever born to begin with. Do you guys remember a couple of years ago, I think we have the screenshot of the headline for you. CBS News ended up putting out. There it is. CBS News ended up putting out this headline. What kind of society do you want to live in inside the country where down syndrome is disappearing? Most wildly misleading headline I've ever seen in my life. Because they are not disappearing down syndrome or improving the quality of lives for people and eradicating a disease. No, they are literally just aborting. 99.9999% of people with down syndrome in Iceland. Like if you have a Down syndrome diagnosis, you will not be born in a country like Iceland. And they are not the only ones. I think that headline came out in like 2017. It's been many years. But many other countries are following suit with this exact same type of behavior, this exact same medical policy, and they call that progressive. So I have a really hard time believing the people who celebrate stuff like that are now thinking, I'm such a good person for saying autism doesn't need to be cured. On my Instagram story, there was another great moment of all of the old Charlie Tabling moments that are re going viral in the wake of his assassination. Charlie got the same line of questioning that I get. And I know Kristen Hawkins and Lila Rose and all the people who work in the pro life movement. We get this exact same line of argument all the time from a member of our generation who has been conditioned by the education system to believe that, that if you are disabled, it is better for you to be dead, it is better for you to never be born than to live with any element of suffering in your life. Listen to how he articulates this because it's so good.
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C
And then we have the technology today to determine if a baby's going to be born with a terrible condition with down syndrome or something, something else bad. And yet these people will spend so much time arguing for the baby not to be born, you know, when it is born. And these families are subject to these conditions. These people do nothing to, to help the baby postnatal at all. And it's like, what do they get out of making sure that these babies are born with such a terrible condition?
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D
So I want to make sure I'm understanding the Question. Yeah. Are you criticizing pro lifers for making sure that the babies are born or just.
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C
Yeah, just, just be more specific, more anti abortion more than pro life. To, to make mom have a baby that is going to be born in such a terrible state. And then no one, you know, these people that the pro lifers that want the baby to be born do nothing postnatal to help. To help the babies.
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D
Okay, so there's. There's a couple things wrong with your statement. The, the first of which, let's talk about the moral issue, which is why should a baby with down syndrome have less human rights than you and I?
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C
I think down syndrome. I think down syndrome is a bad example. I'm talking more.
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D
But you didn't.
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B
You did use that.
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C
I did. I know I did say, that's fine.
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D
So let's back up. Let me say. Then let's say a blood test says that a kid has a congenital heart failure. Okay, fair enough.
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C
Yeah.
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D
Now, according to the New York Times and many other studies, that's only about half true. Meaning like many people in this audience, I'm sure there's somebody here probably had a mom that got a test that said you were gonna have a congenital heart failure. It turned out not to be true.
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A
Yep.
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D
So those tests are not nearly as accurate as you might think. Let's even pretend that they are accurate. Okay, let me grant you that premise. Why should then that human. Not be given equal human rights, even if they get a terminal diagnosis?
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C
No, no, they, they should. I'm not arguing they shouldn't have human rights. I'm saying that if they.
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D
What is the first human right?
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C
Right to live, Right to freedom. I understand that. I'm saying when they, when they are, when the tests are more conclusive, then these, these families are, you know, they suffer. They suffer with these, these children that they have that only get to live to 15 and they're in pain their entire life.
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D
So that's an interesting moral argument that I want to try to flush out. By what standard it is okay to do something wrong that involves another suffering of another, to alleviate suffering for yourself, to basically outsource your suffering to somebody else, saying, I'm going to eliminate you because I might have a tough time.
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A
Oh, such a good, such a good line of conversation. Ah, we lost a really good one, guys. This. Every time I see. Oh, don't cry. Every time I see clips of Charlie talking with these students on campus, like the actual long versions of them, not the two second ones that the mainstream media is showing. God, the man just loved conversation, didn't he? He loved genuine thought investigation and parsing things out and working through arguments and trying to change people's minds. It was so beautiful how he was able to do that. That conversation was incredibly respectful. And even though the premise of what that young man in the baseball cap was saying was wildly disrespectful on the topic of following actual science on today's episode, I am so excited to talk to you guys about one of our amazing sponsors here on the show. 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It's this. Well, if people are going to suffer not just from a disability of some kind or a terminal medical diagnosis, but I often hear this about socioeconomic status. I hear this about single parent households. I hear this about all kinds of stuff. If a child being born into the world is going to suffer, wouldn't it be more compassionate for us to just end their life to begin with? Hence why we arrive at situations like what's happening in Iceland where, where 99% of babies with down syndrome are aborted. Hence how we arrive in an American culture where last fall, just before the election, I called up multiple abortion facilities in different states across the country. And I said I was about 15 weeks pregnant at the time. I just, I lied and I told them, hey, I'm 35 weeks pregnant. One of my tests just came back and said, my child has down syndrome. I don't want to have a child with down syndrome. Can I come in for an abortion? I said I was 35 weeks pregnant. And you guys have probably seen the video. It went insanely viral. If you haven't, it's on my Instagram and my TikTok. And every single one of them said, can we get you in here tomorrow, no questions asked. That's how we arrive when we've twisted this concept of empathy to become something so toxic at a society where we dehumanize entire groups of people saying it's not even worth them being alive because we care. Because we care. And that exactly line of thinking is what led to this graphic. Autism doesn't need to be cured. People thinking, oh well, people are just people. I love people, even though I argue for those people not to be born with to begin with. Now I'm going to virtue signal to the rest of the world and say, autism is perfect. It's perfect. And this may warrant a larger conversation about just how we treat autism in America and how we diagnose autism. The autism spectrum is such a massive contingency of different levels of ability, different diagnoses, different symptoms, different lifestyles, different everything that people who are on the very high end, functioning end of the spectrum when we think of like an Elon Musk, for example, that becomes the poster child of autism, even though those who are incredibly low functioning nonverbal need physical assistance for the rest of their life also have the exact same diagnosis. So I'm watching people, quote, tweet this graphic. Greg Price, amazing guy, ended up sharing it Twitter and said, this is a graphic currently going viral on the Instagram stories of liberals. I'm watching people who have autism, who have children with autism, who have siblings with autism, quote, tweet this and say, actually, it really does need to be cured and if you actually care about humanity and particularly those on the low functioning end of the autism spectrum. Of course we should be working for a cure for autism because that's what actual humanity would look like. This X user said, My 9 year old sister is non verbal, which often makes her feel frustrated and so she lashes out. She cannot use the toilet, she does not have any friends. She has to be zipped into a giant bed every single night and there are locks on every door to keep her safe. It does actually need to be cured. And there are other quote tweets just like this one of countless other people sharing their stories with their family members living with autism. I'll show you guys another one right now. This one for example, says the only people who say this that autism needs to be cured are parents with Munchausen by proxy. If you don't know what that is, I don't blame you. It's really specific diagnosis. It basically means parents who inflict medical diagnoses upon their children even when they're perfectly healthy. So they like pretend my child has leukemia, my child has whatever, my child has autism, and they sentence them to a life of pharmaceutical intervention even though their child is 100% perfectly healthy. It's really messed up. The only people who say this are parents with Munchausen by proxy. As the father of a son with autism, I am desperate, desperate for a cure. I think we have one more. I'll throw it up for you right now. This one's from Blake. My nine year old couldn't talk in complete sentences until three years ago. My eight year old just said his first complete sentence yesterday. They cannot regulate their emotions or speech and they are still learning how to use a toilet properly. We'll say this in the nicest way possible. The AAPD can go take a hike. These are people really living with autism on the most extreme end of the spectrum. And so maybe that warrants a bigger conversation as we move forward from here and how we learn what is causing autism. And I hope we eventually get an answer to that question. I hope that would make me ecstatic. That's science actually doing the scientific method. But maybe it also warrants a bigger conversation about how we diagnose and how we treat autism. Because the Elon musks of the world are not the same as these children whose parents are saying we are desperate for a cure. We want our kids to be able to have a normal life. We will do anything to have our children be able to go to the bathroom by themselves or be able to get married and have a job and not constantly lose their job because they can't regulate their emotions or regulate their temperament. I don't know. I just. I'm frustrated in a million different fronts here, but I'm really frustrated to see virtue signaling leftists try to twist this into a. I am actually empathetic when no one else actually is, because autism doesn't need to be cured. I don't understand why it's mutually exclusive to say a human being who has autism is a human being. They are worthy of all of the exact same human rights, legal protections, right to life and dignity as any other human person, just like any person, but any person with disabilities of any kind. That is not mutually exclusive to hey, really bad. Autism is a very horrible thing to live with, and if we have it in our capacity, we why would we not want to cure it or make it more manageable to live with? That doesn't make you a bad person to say that, and it certainly doesn't make you a bad mom. If this story coming out in the last 48 hours is making you think, huh, I want to make some different decisions moving forward in my next pregnancy, or if I'm pregnant right now, I want to make some different decisions right now. I'm angry and I'm frustrated and I'm. I'm beyond disturbed that every healthcare practitioner in my life is screaming at me to keep taking this thing when the actual research is coming out to suggest that it maybe was never safe to take in the first place. So I want to leave you with this. You're not a bad mom if you took Tylenol when you were pregnant. I took Tylenol when I was pregnant. And it's something that I'm dealing with right now, and we'll figure that out. My daughter, by the grace of God, is wonderfully healthy and shows zero signs of neurodevelopmental issues. And that's probably true for, for like, 99% of people that took Tylenol when they were pregnant. But when we're seeing the massively skyrocketing levels of autism in our society, when we're hearing these stories from parents who are desperate to have their children lead a more normal life and be able to function on their own and not constantly be angry at the fact that they can't be a normal kid or even a normal adult later on, do we not owe it to society to figure out if. Not that it does, but if Tylenol during pregnancy and infancy is linked to this, I think we do. So I will make you a promise. We're going to go talk to some actual experts about this stuff. We are going to go do the research and the scientific method ourselves, not just about this particular aspect of motherhood, but a whole lot of other things, too. Because now it is becoming abundantly clear that parents need to take the responsibility into their own hands to be as educated as we possibly can be in how to make sure our children are happy and healthy and thriving. No longer can we just rely on the experts, because there's a very mixed bag of legitimate experts who care about science and the people who are much more politically motivated to push their own partisan agenda. Maybe we'll just do that tomorrow on the show. Make sure you're subscribed to the channel to make sure you never miss an episode of the Isabelle Brown Show. And I promise we'll keep asking these questions one day at a time. Thanks, guys.