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So you guys may have seen, I am on the front page of the Wall Street Journal this week, which is insane, mind blowingly cool. All that after I met with the President of the United States in the Oval Office on Friday afternoon. What is life? And as the Wall Street Journal is covering our quest to make more babies and encourage more young women to put our kids before our careers, I find it weirdly coincidental that there's a new terrifying, terrifying company called Nucleus Genomics that's introducing a whole new world of IVF. Plus, at pick your baby.com we're talking actual eugenics to select your baby's eye color, hair color, iq, risk for autism, and so much more to perfect the human race. What could possibly go wrong Today on the show? We are talking about the need and the very, very important mission to revive the American family, but also not to overcorrect and commodify human beings in the process. Buckle up. Today is a good one. Here we go. Welcome back to the Isabelle Brown show for your one and only full episode of the week. I. I know, but it's going to be a good one, I promise. That said, we all need to go touch some grass. We need to go turkey trotting. We need to turn off the screens and spend time with the people that we love this week. So we've got some very fun, short Thanksgiving content coming to you the rest of this week. But today we are zooming in on a crazy story that is blowing up over the weekend about some new suspicious ads that have popped up in the New York City subway system. Also, because this is just real life and life of a mom, our amazing nanny is on a trip this week. She is going to a wedding in Rome, which is awesome. But I'm on, like full mom duty. I don't have an extra set of hands today while we're filming, so my baby is literally being bounced at my feet as we speak. If there is screaming, please bear with me. This is just real life in real time. On the note of babies, let's just jump right into this insane story because I cannot be the only one who is deeply unsettled by what I am seeing pop up in the New York City subway system. Just a few days ago, we talked about IVF here on the show and got really interesting feedback from you guys about the subject. We're not here today to talk about the ethics of the industry at large. We talked about that a few days ago with our amazing guest, Katie Fosk. You guys know my opinion on IVF technology and how we need to be using it more responsibly or just regulating it appropriately. To ask that and answer that tough question of bioethics just because we can, should we? It seems, though, unfortunately, there are a whole lot of people who are not willing to ask that question and who are taking this technology to a whole new level of just straight up eugenics. People have pointed out, and I'm going to pull this up for you here on X, that new ads have popped up all over the New York City subway system with a link, a hyperlink to a website called it Pick your baby dot com. Pick your baby dot com. This one in particular says, have your best baby. And this is all purported by a new company called Nucleus Genomics. Their tagline on X, have your best baby with IVF plus. Apparently we have IVF and IVF plus. But with this particular ad, they tweeted, anyone, anyone can have a taller, smarter and healthier baby with IVF plus. What's wrong with short people? I'm sorry, justice for the short people. I stopped growing in sixth grade. God only lets things grow until they're perfect. And some of us didn't take as long as others. Okay, what's wrong with being five foot one? I'm sorry, Isla, as I'm bouncing you at my feet, you are not set up well in the height genetic lottery. Is that funny to you in this family? So apparently we want tall babies, we want smarter babies, and we want healthier babies. So we're going to do everything we can to follow their new campaign to have your best baby, which they are calling the future of modern family planning. This is so creepy. If you scroll through Nucleus Genomics's social media here, you can start to see some of these ads in the New York City subway system. Here's another one. Have a healthier baby with IVF plus. They've put a thousand street ads across New York City, a thousand subway car ads, and blitz medias all over the New York City metropolitan area. This is from their founder, Keon Sadegi, who we'll come back to in a second. The mainstream media is starting to pick this up a little bit, and then they have all of their physicians, investors, et cetera, posing in the New York City subway system. Nucleus, that's the company. IVF plus is their new technology. They're advertising have your best baby@pickyourbaby.com. so this was really intriguing to me when I started to see these photos and videos pop up all over the New York City subway system. I was just in New York a few weeks ago. I'll be back in New York again toward the beginning of December for some personal stuff and for some more media appearances. But I don't take the subway anymore for obvious reasons. I think generally young women are avoiding the subway at all costs as much as they possibly can when they're in New York. So I didn't see this when I was in New York a few weeks ago, even though they were starting to pop up around that time. This hyperlink is new to me. Pick your baby dot com. Just a side note, let me just say this really quick. How much do you think it costs to run that particular URL? Like, that's insane. How much to own that domain name? I don't even want to fathom. That's insane. But I haven't yet really played with this yet. I just keep seeing these advertisements going out. IVF plus makes me really nervous. So I think it might be helpful if we type this all in together. I don't know. What do you guys think as we fight so hard to restore dignity to babies of every single stage of life, whether they're embryos or in our tummies or ones that we snuggle and hold late at night. I'm so excited to tell you about our amazing friends at preborn. When Mary said, let it be done to me according to your word, in Luke 1:38, she said yes to God's plan. Despite the uncertainty, the risk, and the sacrifice ahead, that single yes brought our Savior Jesus Christ into the world. Today, mothers across the country are facing their own life changing moments when they see their baby on an ultrasound screen. Many of them are scared. Many feel alone and without support. That moment, that chance to say yes, can slip away so quickly. But you can help to change that. Thanks to listeners like you. 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You can help give a baby the chance to live by allowing a mom to meet her baby through an ultrasound. To donate securely, you can pick up the phone and dial £250 and say the keyword baby. Then that's £250, baby. Or visit preborn.comisabelle one more time. That's preborn.comisabel Every gift is tax deductible and impacts generations to come. Let's go ahead and try pickyourbaby.com. let's type it in. Pick your baby dot com. Nucleus. Have your best baby. Can I pause this? Is this like a thing? Oh, yeah, I can hold it down. I'm sorry. Does this not look like shopping for a baby? This is so weird. This looks like. Look at all of our beautiful, multi ethnic diverse options for you to pick from so that you can just pick and choose like a crop. The perfect, the best baby for you. I hate this. All right, let's see what else Nucleus has to tell us. I mean, they're cute. Babies, I'll give them that. We can never deny the baby fever. I say to my baby. Dear future parents. All right, let's see what they have to say to future parents. Here you dream about who your child will be. Their laugh, their health, their happiness. This is just what happens when you type in pickyourbaby.com. it circles through all of this. Now you can see your future child's health, traits and potential before pregnancy even begins. That's not horrifying, because everyone deserves to be understood from the very beginning. Yeah, I don't like that either, kiddo. It's the modern way to plan a family, guided by science and driven by love. Is that funny to you? You guys might be able to hear my daughter laughing in the background because it's just that preposterous. I know. Isla, it's simple. You and your partner swab your cheeks at home. Why would they be swabbing their cheeks for something like this? This is weird. For the first time, Nucleus can combine all of your genes together. Ugh. I'm like shuddering at the idea of one of these companies just holding your genetic material. By the way, they're literally swabbing your entire DNA, holding it in a library somewhere, combining it with the two that you send in together. But who's to say they won't combine it with other people's? Who's to say that they won't take your DNA and attempt to alter it in some way or edit it? I hate this. This is. No, no, no. All right, but let's see why they're trying to combine our genes together so you can glimpse the possible life you can bring into the world. There's that lovely abortion influenced lingo. There again, possible life preview. Nucleus preview is your baby's first preview. Joe and Amanda, eye color, hair color, height, iq, autism. Okay, so at this point, you have not yet sent in like an. You're not doing IVF yet. You're only sending in a cheek swab. So I imagine what this is is like a high tech, very expensive punnett sweet square where they're telling you based on your DNA and based on your spouse's DNA or your partner, whoever is sending this in, here's the possible combinations that we could give you for your children. And look what they note at the top priorities of these 2014 genetic markers. They're screening for eye color, hair color, height. So all physical aesthetics of which you get to selectively edit and alter your baby iq, which science has not yet linked to your DNA very well. And autism a risk for autism. I'm sorry, I thought we didn't know what causes autism. I thought it was actually like really evil. If you said that we don't know what causes autism and we don't know what doesn't cause autism. Was it not like five and a half minutes ago that the entire DC Media apparatus was freaking out that the CDC altered the language on their website last week to say, well, there's no actual concrete proof that vaccines don't contribute to a cause of autism because you're not allowed to say any of this stuff. This is insane. This is insane. Back to our episode in just a second, but first want to tell you about our friends over at Shopify. When I started my small business a few years ago, my llc, I had literally no idea what I was doing. I was not a business major. I had never been told how to file any paperwork for any of this stuff. I didn't even know how to code a website. It was crazy. The whole process can be overwhelming and confusing, but thankfully that is exactly where today's spot sponsor Shopify comes in. 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Their award winning customer support team is available 24. 7 to share advice and guide you through any challenges and that you might face. Turn your big business idea into With Shopify on your side, sign up for your $1 per month trial and start selling today at shopify.com/isabel. Go to shopify.com/isabelle again one more time, that's shopify.com/isabel. So you send in this preview, you swab your cheek. They do this high tech Punnett Square if you remember like fifth grade biology class. And they say you do this because the more you know, the more you can give your Baby. The best possible start. But for some parents, this journey takes a little more science and a lot more strength. What the heck does that mean? Especially in our complicated, costly, and outdated IVF system, which causes headaches, stress, confusion, anxiety, lots of paperwork, etc. But we have good news. Good news that the rest of the industry allegedly doesn't have for you. Meet IVF plus, the new way to bring your baby home. Oh, I don't know. No, no. IVF plus is every part of your journey. Doctors, testing, and support in one seamless circle of care. It's clarity, compassion, and guidance every step of the way. I hate this. Can I say that? Enough. In this episode, it's powered by the world's most advanced genetics. Embryo. One embryo. I hope we get to dig into that a little bit more once this little slideshow gets over and grounded in something timeless. Hope, science, and love working together. Now imagine this. You're going through ivf. You're doing everything that you can. Cancer runs in your family. It's always in the back of your mind. You're shown five embryos, five possible paths forward. I don't know who needs the reminder of this right now, but an embryo is not a possible path forward. An embryo is a human being. A genetically unique human being that has never existed before and will never exist again. An embryo is your baby. That is your child. Not a possible path forward. Nucleus says you're shown five embryos, five possible paths forward. They all look the same, so you are left guessing. They're not the same, actually. This is nauseatingly disgusting. This is so, so unbelievably beyond the pale. But then your doctor taps a button and the uncertainty lifts. You can see which embryo has the lowest risk for cancer. Which of your children you're artificially playing God with, practicing eugenics with, and choosing to give the opportunity to be born versus your other children. Finally, you have the clarity that you didn't have before. And with that clarity, you can choose the path that feels right for your family. Yes, of course. A multi ethnic lesbian family. Here we've got all of the experiences here offered to you through Nucleus. Compare your embryos. Wait, how do I go back to that? I don't want to start my IVF plus journey. Here we go. Compare your embryos. Look at this chart. This is easily one of the most insane things I've ever seen. With nice little graphics and pretty fonts and pretty colors. Compare your embryos. I'll zoom in on this so you guys can see a little bit better. Oh, that's a little too far. Embryo one is a girl. Embryo two is a boy. Embryo three is a girl. Embryo four is a boy. Embryo five is a girl. So they're telling you up front that these are your children. Like, these are babies. They're admitting their biological sex and everything. But they've been reduced to a chart on the Internet. They've been reduced to data points and potential risk of various risk factors, or even more disgustingly, just pure aesthetics. They've been reduced to an eye color, height, hair color. And you're supposed to like walking into the American girl doll store, pick out your ideal child based on the potential of their eye color, hair color, height. That's disgusting. None of this is progressive or pro human or advancing the human race in any way, shape or form. This is literally just eugenics. This is literally what the Nazis practiced and learned from us. By the way, watch the 1916 project if you haven't already, because it is alarming how much eugenics was actually learned from America. I know it's a sad thing if you hear my baby making noise in the background. So let's play with this. Embryo 1 has green eyes, dark brown hair. A 15% possible increase risk for breast cancer, a 1% higher risk for type 2 diabetes. Compare that with, like embryo 4 over here, who has an 18% higher risk of type 2 diabetes. Embryo 1 is 5% more likely or has a, has a growth opportunity of 5 more inches compared to the rest of the children created here. A 4% higher opportunity for IQ, which again, how can somebody please answer for me where we have asked and answered the question how IQ is determined by your DNA? Because that hasn't really sufficiently been answered for me up to this point. And of course, autism. Embryo one is a great choice here. The lowest risk of autism according to DNA. And again, I thought we didn't know what causes autism. I thought we weren't allowed to say what causes autism. I thought we were still investigating what causes autism. But now that we put it on this really fancy chart to compare your embryos. Now it's totally fine to say that at your favorite store you can go shopping to find your ideal baby. There says, it says here there's 2000 plus more genetic markers. And it says these reports are available in the full IVF plus experience, which obviously we will not be doing. So you have to sign up to even see all of the things that they scan for. But I imagine it's probably several other types of cancer. They're scanning for breast cancer here. Oh, you can Pick. This is interesting. I just clicked breast cancer on accident. Oh, my gosh. You can filter based on the, like, ideal probability of each thing. Can I click on multiple things? No, just one. So if I click breast cancer and the most important thing to me is that my kid has the lowest possible risk of breast cancer once they're born. I can look at all five of the kids that I've already created through this process. And if I click on one trait, it automatically reshuffles everything to say, Embryo 5 is your ideal choice here. Because Embryo 5 has a decreased risk of breast cancer compared to all the other embryos your babies, embryo 5 is the least likely to get breast cancer. That doesn't mean they'll never get it, by the way. We can't possibly ever predict that. If your ideal is iq, which we just saw the Wall Street Journal and several other pieces run massive pieces on the last few months about how very intelligent Silicon Valley tech bros are teaming up with super, super smart Ivy League graduates to try to artificially create, like, high IQ humans through IVF. I'm sure they're all using IVF plus now. Then it says, yeah, forget about Embryo 3. Actually, you want Embryo 1. You want Embryo 1 in the ideal column here. What about hair color or eye color? If you want green eyes? Forget about embryos 2 and 5. Get rid of them. You need embryo 1, 3 or 4. This is disgusting. This is ranking your children on a hierarchy based on things that are not even yet proven. And this is not even a potential. I. I even think. Can I go back a few steps here? Yeah, this is interesting. Let's go all the way back. This is weird. This preview concept where you send in a cheek swab from Joe and a cheek swab from Amanda, and they put together a whole list of all of the potential genetic combinations of what your kids could look like or have risk for. This is weird, but it's not dystopian quite yet. To me. Where it becomes dystopian is based on this data, what this company is telling you, what they're advertising to do, is combining all of the information they then learned about you from your cheek swab. Sorry, my baby is upset about this, as I am too. And then they're taking you all the way through the process to make your children and to remind you of all of the things that you had potentials for. But now they've already made your children and you get to choose which one you have the right path forward with. That's dystopian and insane. Back to it in a second. But first, Advent is almost here which means we are all recentering our priorities around around the real reason for the season baby. 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You guys can use code ISABELLE20 to get 20% off the complete set at saintpaulcenter.com breakingthebread set or visit the link in today's show Notes on the note of just extreme dystopia, people have started to do a little bit of digging into the origins of this company. Turns out it was started by like a 25 year old Ivy League dropout. His name is Keon. I think I'm pronouncing that correctly. They've raised over $30 million in the process of starting Nucleus Genomics. And it's wild to me, wild to me that people are saying, here's what the future of this might look like. The Nucleus team, backed by these investors, including this one particular investor that they're mentioning here in this article, are dreaming much, much, much bigger than anything you could possibly imagine in genetics right now. Here is what the Tech Crunch website says. Imagine a world where your medical treatments are tailored to your genetics, or where every single couple gets their DNA sequenced before having children together. That's so weird. I hate that. No. Or a world where one of the major investors for Nucleus imagines dating apps. Dating apps have a kid simulation that meshes your genetic tests together and shows you what your child might inherit. No, no, no. Just say no as a society. No to kid simulations on our dating apps. I'm already wildly anti dating app. Nope, not going to be a thing for me. Thanks. Thanks but no thanks. No, no. Delete them now before this becomes like a standardized part of Tinder or Hinge or Bumble or any other platform that you might possibly be using. We're now storing your genetic material. Remember when I said I was worried about what they're doing with the cheek swab information? They're just going to hold on to it and then sell it to the highest bidder. They're storing your genetic information and they are going to now sell it to the tinders and bumbles and hinges of the world so that your potential date for tomorrow's evening can see if you're even remotely a good genetic match for one another. No. This kid, Keon Sade, who is the founder of Nucleus Genomics, is advertising for his company on Reddit. Interestingly enough, he's trying to convince people this is a great idea by posting on Reddit threads about the future of his company. Eight months ago, he posted an Ask me anything Reddit post. I dropped out of an Ivy League university and raised over $30 million to build the world's most advanced DNA health test. 23 and me just collapsed. Ask me anything. Hey Reddit. I'm Keon Sadaki, founder and CEO of Nucleus Genomics. He wrote five years ago. I dropped out of Penn, of course, to open access to genetic insights and end preventable disease. Ooh, end preventable disease. I don't know. I don't like that. What could possibly, possibly go wrong today? Nucleus, his company, is one of America's fastest growing health platforms, backed by over $30 million with investors like all of these people that he just listed. Here's the proof of all of our investors. You can click on that. Our mission, he says, is personal. When I was just 6 years old, my 16 year old cousin died in her sleep. That's really sad. Because of a rare yet treatable genetic disease. I built Nucleus because I believe no one should have this fate. Everyone deserves actionable, life saving insights into their DNA. Most consumer DNA tests barely scratch the surface. Looking at just 0.1% of your genome, Nucleus sequences nearly 100% of your DNA, giving you insights about your heart health, your mental health, diseases you are at risk for, or could pass down to your children, how you metabolize different drugs and supplements, and way more. Feel free to ask me about building a startup, how I will change health care 23 and me going bankrupt. And what happens to that data? Why DNA testing is finally ready to transform personalized health care. What's next for Nucleus? I'll be around all day. Nothing's off limits. No question is too basic or complex. So fire away. Ask me anything. And 141 people asked him questions, which again, we won't have time to get through all of this today. But I find this interesting. The reason he says he started the company, when I was just 6 years old, my 16 year old cousin died in her sleep because of a rare yet treatable genetic disease. I built Nucleus because I believe no one should have this fate. Everyone deserves actionable life saving insights into their DNA. Okay, so you built a company to basically screen the entire world's DNA before we procreate because of a genetic disease that your 16 year old cousin died for in her sleep. That is incredibly tragic and my heart breaks for you and your family. But then what is the answer? Because interestingly, in the let's solve this problem journey, what you've actually created is a chart on your company's website. After you've invented this technology, you've created more people, you've brought new people into the world. These genetically unique children, Embryo 5, could be named Sarah, that have never existed before and will never exist again. And the solution to understanding every part of your DNA, every part of your genetic sequencing and preventing tragedies like your 16 year old cousin dying in her sleep would be What? For Embryo 5, or Sarah, or your 16 year old cousin to never have been born in the first place. Because that's what this company is advertising. They're saying if a particular baby has risk for type 2 diabetes or breast cancer or any other major genetic predisposition, if they have high risk for autism or risk for low iq, or even they just don't have the eye color that I really wanted for my baby, then they don't deserve to be born in the first place. That's our solution. That's our compassion. That's how we're handling the next generation of human beings. This is what we call modern family planning. If that's the case, which is just straight up eugenics, there's no way around that. It is straight up eugenics. Then shame on us. Shame on us. Because we are creating babies to instantly sentence them to death when they don't fit our picture perfect model of what a healthy, tall, aesthetically pleasing, beautiful baby is supposed to look like. And my baby's crying in the background about that, making noise because she's. She's upset about it. As she should be. While we're on the quest to actually discover real health instead of just turning babies into products, I want to talk about something that's hit me really, really hard. After becoming a mom, I have realized over the last few months that every decision I make about my health isn't just about me anymore. It's about showing up for my daughter Isla, being present for all of her milestones, and having the energy to keep up with her for decades to come, which is a totally different kind of motivation. But here's the problem. Our health care system is built to be reactive. You wait until something's wrong and then you try to fix it. So when you do want to take a proactive approach, it can be really hard to know where to even start. That's why I have been partnering with Jevity. They make proactive health easier than ever. Jevoty offers different membership tiers so that you can choose what fits your needs. You get comprehensive at home blood draws, testing over 100 different health markers way beyond what the standard checkup ever covers. They provide personalized health plans with custom supplement protocols, access to functional longevity specialists for ongoing guidance, plus so many discounts on supplements and specialty testing. Jevoti is now available in 47 states across the country. So if you are ready to be there for the people that you love, not just today, but for decades to come, you can use Code Isabel at the link in today's show notes for 20% off. Because investing in your health now means so much more time with the people who matter the most. I find it really interesting. Sorry about baby crying. So I'll. I'll repeat myself here. That this story is really picking up traction and becoming really popular on the Internet at the exact same time that the Wall Street Journal ran a piece about my family that ran on the front page of the Wall Street Journal this morning. The headline is conservative Young Women are Flipping the script. Kids first comma, then Curse Career. And there's a picture of me in our set right here before we had a fun little Christmas tree and beautiful flowers from my husband behind me. They came to our house about six weeks ago, I think, and took some really fun pictures of us doing the show of planning, the show of talking with my family, of hanging out as a family while my husband was on furlough. It was very fun. And in this piece they specifically highlight how we are encouraging people to have families the old fashioned way. I'll get to that in a second. But to have families as our number one priority as young people because this is what life is really all about. I'll read you a few excerpts from this piece and then I want to tie it back to this larger conversation about Nucleus genomics and the next generation of modern family planning. Because I think our society is at a crossroads when it comes to reviving the family or destroying the family in the effort to make more children. So we'll come back to that in a second. But first I want to read you a few of these expert excerpts because they did a really good job. The Wall Street Journal and our friend now Rachel Wolf, who is the author of the piece, she was wonderful to work with, said for generations of women, the logic has seemed airtight. Focus on a career in your 20s and worry about starting a family once you are established in a job. This mindset has catapulted women into higher earning positions and into traditionally male dominated fields. The share of women in their prime working years who are in the workforce is around a record high and women are having babies later, if they have them at all. The answer to fertility constraints, they're told, is egg freezing. Isabelle Brown, age 28, did not want to wait. She married last year and had a baby this year. Heck yeah, we were busy. She's now building her career as a conservative activist, hosting a podcast for the conservative media company the Daily W. That's us. They're talking about us. This podcast and speaking on college campuses as a representative for Turning Point, the youth organization that Charlie Kirk founded. Kirk's widow, Erica, now leads the organization and is amplifying a message especially resonant for young conservative women. Family is central. Children come first. Young people are realizing that our lives are going to be so much more meaningful if we have a family to share our success with from the start, brown said. She and other conservative women talk about timing, family and work as seasons of life. The term is from the biblical passage From Ecclesiastes, chapter 3, verse 1 For everything there is a time or sorry for everything there is a season and a time for every matter under heaven. And they have these beautiful photos in my house of me and my husband and our baby Isla. There's a picture from the picture frame right behind me, hiding behind my head somewhere in the set of me while I was heavily pregnant. I was about eight months pregnant in the Oval Office with the President and the Vice President of the United States you guys may have seen on Instagram. I was back in the Oval with POTUS on Friday. We'll talk more about that maybe later this week. But huge honor, but I have a big old baby bump in that picture, which I love because that was way more important to me than even meeting the President and the Vice President in the Oval Office. Bringing new life into the world was way more exciting to me during that time and season. So they go through all of the changing demographics of young women not wanting to get married and young women not wanting to have children, especially from the liberal perspective. In this piece they quote the General Social survey as of 2024, 75% of liberal women between 18 and 35 were childless. Wow. Compared with only 40% of conservatives. Massive gap. 35% gap between conservative and liberal women who were childless between the ages of 18 and 35. Back in 2010 the difference was only 5 percentage points. So in the last 10 to 15 years we have seen a seismic societal shift in who is even open to having children and certainly who is leaning into that. They say liberals are leaning hard into being dinks, dual income, no kids, being childless or even having fewer kids. And it very much being a choice. Whereas conservatives having kids is very much still a part of what it means to be a whole person. They talk a lot about this before coming back to our conversation toward the bottom of the piece and they included something really beautiful here that I want to hone in on way at the end Here we go. In post to her roughly 2 million mostly young Instagram and TikTok followers, Brown asks why wait for marriage and parenthood? It is not true that walking down the aisle or welcoming a child into the world will somehow limit your personal freedom. Brown records her show for the Daily Wire from her house in Washington, D.C. and often brings her daughter to the speaking engagements she travels to all over the country and even has her crying in the background on several podcast episodes. Welcome to real life motherhood. Her husband, Brock Belcher, who works in communications for the Trump Admin, shares childcare responsibilities for their daughter Isla Queen, quote, with the exception of breastfeeding. I'm so glad they included that, because the fact that chest feeding is even a thing, the fact that we even need to put this in print because there are some people out there who actually believe men can breastfeed their baby. Pathetic. They end the piece with this. Their experience as a young family, Brown says, differs from the message that she thinks a lot of young people are seeing about how they should structure their lives. We are looking around at the anti family state of affairs in our country and realizing that for the most part, people aren't happy or fulfilled. Love the piece. They did an absolutely phenomenal job, truly. But what's interesting to me now that I'm reading this back in the light of what we're seeing with this Nucleus Genomics project and the new modern era of family planning, in screening your children for exactly what you want to practice eugenics before you give birth to them, or God forbid you even compare your Dating app profiles with your genetic material. It dawns on me that it's not just not having children that is the anti family state of affairs in America. It's not. That certainly is a huge contribution to it and is contributing to the fact that so many young women have zero interest in getting married and going through pregnancy. It's why we see the girl with the list trend on social media all the time. Or giving birth or having children or raising your children. That's a huge problem and something that we address all the time. We should make more babies. But the anti family state of affairs in America as they so beautifully articulate in this Wall Street Journal profile piece also includes reducing your children to data points to a chart. It also includes matching people up based on artificial honestly genetic compatibility on a dating app profile. Instead of allowing people to naturally fall in love, to commit to one another for life and to create children out of their union of love together and their union of love with God. This entire project of the Nucleus genomics companies of the world, and they're not the only ones, but they certainly are one of the most well funded and one of the most getting off the ground examples of these projects. This is equally destroying the family just as much as the people screaming at you to not even want to get married in the first place, to not want children, to be ashamed of wanting to have children. And I think we have to be honest about it now. The answer to our society is not just to blindly make more babies. That's important and it's a beautiful slogan and it's super catchy and we use it all the time. And we should make more babies the fun way, by the way, that's way more interesting and compelling for your life than doing this in a petri dish. But when we've taken things in almost an overcorrection in society because we are rightfully concerned about disease, because we are rightfully concerned about disability, because we are rightfully concerned about population collapse, which is a huge concern in society. We cannot commodify human beings in the process. And what this IVF plus new frontier is offering to society is not just a chance to commercialize and commodify your children, which is disgusting. Your kids aren't products. They're not baby dolls that you walk into the American Girl doll store at Rockefeller center and pick out exactly what you want and customize to the nth degree, down to their eye color and hair texture. But it's also commodifying who you spend your life with, who your partnership is with whether you get married, who you are getting married to, what your marriage looks like. Because the truth is real marriage and partnership and commitment to one another has to be so much bigger than genetic compatibility. That's important and it's something to certainly consider. But love is not based on percentage points. Love is not based on charts. Love is not based on probability. Love is based in commitment. It is a choice. It is an action that you have to practice day in and day out. So please, I beg of you, as we have this important national conversation around how to revive the family, how to make more babies, how to encourage more young women to bring new life into the world, which is the single greatest honor you ever, ever could put on every day as a part of your identity and a part of your vocation into the world. Please help me to fight back against the over correction in commodifying human beings in the process. We have to be better than this in a society that we are truly proud to call home. Truly a progressive society, one based in human rights and real equality. Because this, the Giver Gattaca 1984 Brave New World vibes is just not gonna be it for me. The good news is we can be incredibly grateful for the people who are doing everything they can to revive the family. And we're trying to do that here at our house. Obviously, that's why the Wall Street Journal ran this awesome piece. I'll show you that beautiful picture that they had of my husband and I at our home. We're trying to do that every single day, including even welcoming the mainstream media into our very private lives and everything that we're doing every day because we think it's so important to share family and a beautiful picture of the joy that that brings with the world. But there are so many other people doing exactly the same thing. You guys are probably following so many other young women that are sharing that message in whatever way they can, whether that be Riley Gaines or Ali Beth Stuckey or Brett Cooper. So many people sharing this message keep amplifying their voices and keep embracing the narrative that truly the most beautiful things to be grateful for, especially during this week of gratitude, are all rooted in real love. Not selfishness, not toxic feminism, not isolated red pill bro alpha male machoism that you see on so many of these podcasts, but also comma, not genetic companies trying to commodify the human person. What an insane time to be alive. We, as I mentioned at the beginning of the show today, only have one full episode this week for you because we are going to touch grass. We are going to Turkey Trot. We are going to be cooking up a storm this week and for the first time in like I can't even remember how long our producers might be able to remind me. Eight weeks maybe. I am not on an airplane this week. I'm not going out of town this week. Which is a huge blessing. Another huge thing to be grateful for. So we are spending some quality time with our family and I highly, highly encourage you guys to do the same. That said, we will have some YouTube type content going out to you with some fun videos that have nothing to do with long form episodes or commentary about the world, but just some fun stuff for us to all be grounded in together. Reminder that Stranger Things comes back on Wednesday. Finally after three years of waiting for the final season. These kids are like 45 years old and they're playing high schoolers. I can't. It's a whole thing. Whatever. But we will be talking about that when we come back from Thanksgiving next week and we have all kinds of fun stuff planned for the last few weeks of the year with all of you. All of that to wrap up and be said. I just want to say I am so unbelievably grateful for the opportunity to keep growing our community together, to be reacting to the these stories and to be trying to share the truth in every aspect that we possibly can. Whether that's in interesting meetings in the Oval Office with the President of the United States, 15 second TikTok videos, hour long podcast episodes, or front page profile pieces with the Wall Street Journal. God just continues to blow me away at where he wants this conversation to be held in the venues that we continue to be able to speak into. And all of that, truly all of that is 100% thanks to you guys being here, supporting our content, sharing these episodes, all of our clips, following all of our community channels, whether that be my Instagram or TikTok, or subscribing here on YouTube. Every single one of you that takes the time to support the show is what makes all of the gears turn to be able to bring more truth seeking to our generation and to the world at large. So thank you so very much from the bottom of my heart. Happy happy, happy Thanksgiving. I'm truly grateful for every single one of you. Go put your fat pants on and eat some turkey this week. We will see you next Monday.