Podcast Summary:
The Isabel Brown Show – "What REALLY Happened At The Louvre, Celebrities Exploiting Their Kids, & High Fashion's Shocking Comeback"
Host: Isabel Brown (The Daily Wire)
Guests: Link Lauren (Host of "Spot On with Link Lauren"), Co-hosts/Producer
Date: October 23, 2025
Overview
In this episode, Isabel Brown examines recent controversies and cultural shifts regarding beauty, fashion, and celebrity parenting, exploring the larger implications for Western civilization. The conversation spans from celebrities dressing their children in provocative ways, to a renaissance of beauty in high fashion, and wraps up with a baffling, movie-like heist at the Louvre. Isabel and her guest Link Lauren offer incisive, unapologetically opinionated perspectives, tying cultural surface-level trends to deeper societal undercurrents.
Key Topics & Discussions
1. The Death and Renaissance of Beauty in Fashion
(00:26–05:53; 25:46–36:24)
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The "Ugliness" Trend: Isabel opens by noting a shift in high fashion towards "ugliness" and androgyny, suggesting this deconstruction of beauty is a continuation of a decades-long trend to break down objective standards—in art, architecture, and beyond.
- "High fashion is following the exact same pipeline as the destruction of art, architecture, [and] beautiful spaces… to destroy objective beauty standards as instituted by the Communist Party 60 plus years ago." — Isabel (01:50)
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Absurdity at Fashion Week: The co-host recounts a recent Paris Fashion Week prank where someone walked the runway in a garbage bag and was applauded before being apprehended (05:06–05:53), underlining the confusion over what now counts as “fashion” or “art.”
- "The guy gets all the way down the Runway. Everyone in the crowd is just like, yes, yes. More of this. So fashion. So art." — Isabel & Co-host (05:33–05:42)
2. Celebrity Kids and Exploitation
(05:53–22:56)
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North West’s Outfits Generate Outrage: The focal controversy: Kim Kardashian and Kanye West's daughter North West—a 12-year-old—appearing on red carpets in overtly mature, sexualized attire, including push-up bras and fake tattoos.
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TikTok commentary:
- "This is a 12 year old…this is a child…this is crazy and gonna lead to a crash out that makes the one from Brittany and Amanda Bynes pale in comparison. This cannot be healthy." — TikTok Creator Alexis Gilroy (10:07)
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Discussion Points:
- Defending versus condemning the trend; generational shifts in what’s considered appropriate.
- The challenge for “normal” parents vs. celebrity parents, and the public’s growing discomfort.
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Link Lauren’s Take:
- "She’s dressing like a little prostatot. And it’s the mom’s fault. It is Kim Kardashian’s fault. All right? … There’s a big difference between playing in the privacy of your own home and then going out there in public." (11:39)
- "Hollywood is already such a dark, demonic place…God bless this little girl growing up in the crazy world of Hollywood…" (11:56)
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Isabel: "I see a tortured soul, lost woman who has had a very dark several decades of her life and needs help escaping that. And it just makes me wonder what conversations are happening at home." (14:56)
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Comparisons to Blue Ivy and Other Celebrity Kids:
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Beyonce’s daughter Blue Ivy (age 12) also wore an arguably mature ball gown, but TikTokers and the hosts parsed the difference—Blue Ivy’s look, while not ideal, was less overtly adult and more formal.
- "Would I put my 12 year old in this? No. Is this the same as what Northwest is wearing? Also no…Let’s point out some key differences…" — Alexis (18:16)
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Examples of Age-Appropriate Dressing:
- Jamie Foxx’s daughter (age 11) and the "Stranger Things" cast shown as positive examples (20:09).
- "To say that it’s difficult to find something age appropriate is insane." — Alexis (21:07)
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Broader Trend – Celebrity Kids and Trans Identity:
- Link Lauren notes a “trend” of celebrity children identifying as transgender, suggesting (controversially) that it’s treated as an accessory or status symbol by some parents, calling the frequency statistically impossible (21:16–22:56).
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3. Celebrity Body Image & High Fashion’s Comeback
(22:56–29:46)
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Kardashians, Flip-Flopping Standards, and Body Dysmorphia:
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Isabel and Link argue that changing beauty standards pushed by influencers (e.g., big butts, now slimming down with Ozempic) are designed to keep girls—especially impressionable ones—feeling unworthy.
- "The Kardashians…have made a living off of giving girls body dysmorphia and reasons to feel bad about themselves…" — Link (21:16)
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Isabel draws a parallel to conflicting health/diet advice and a general societal confusion over what is “good,” with interesting asides on “seed oils” vs. traditional fats.
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Kim Kardashian’s Masked Red Carpet Look:
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Kim K’s recent appearance in a full-face-covering “high fashion” mask prompts Link Lauren to call it degrading and question the aim of erasing individuality (26:29).
- "There is something degrading to women to say you need to cover your faces…what was the point of paying for all those body enhancements if you’re going to put a sheet over your head?" — Link (26:29)
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The culture clash is highlighted:
- "It's not BBLs anymore. It's burkas, apparently." — Isabel (27:41)
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Despite comedic asides (Link’s pillowcase “review,” 2/10 rating), the point is that both trends—shapeless anonymity and sexualization—are departures from true, transcendent beauty.
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4. High Fashion’s "Healing": Dolce & Gabbana’s Catholic Collection
(29:46–36:24)
- The Positivity of the D&G Show:
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Isabel expresses hope as fashion houses return to objectively beautiful, tradition-inspired designs.
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Dolce & Gabbana’s Rome fashion show, inspired by Catholic liturgy and tradition, is celebrated as a refreshing counter to recent trends.
- "We have to fight to preserve Western civilization and our traditions…they’re not just going to be passed down…unless we fight for them." — Link (30:44)
- "Look how intricately beautiful this is. This is what high fashion…it’s avant garde, but it’s beautiful. Is supposed to look like. Thank you, Dolce and Gabbana, for making all of this possible." — Isabel (35:34)
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The Monstrance-inspired armor and biblical/statue references are dissected and praised for their depth of symbolism.
- "This actually is like biblical scriptural church, dogma oriented fashion. And yet it’s so striking and so beautiful and so radically countercultural to what we have seen in fashion…" — Isabel (36:24)
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5. The Louvre Heist: "The Death of Beauty"—Even Thieves Have Taste
(41:56–47:30)
- The Robbery:
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Isabel recaps the elaborate, real-world heist at the Louvre—the theft of royal French jewelry including diamond-covered pieces once belonging to Napoleon III’s wife.
- Dylan Page ("News Daddy")’s TikTok recounted: thieves masqueraded as construction workers, used a lift, broke into display cases, stole key items, and escaped in under 7 minutes (43:13).
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"They are estimating up to 600 million plus euros in value missing from the Louvre now because of this heist. This is insane. Look at these…That has like 24,000 individual diamonds in it." — Isabel (46:04)
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Questions arise about how/why the security lapse occurred (DEI implications, inside job?) (46:37), but the hosts agree:
- "These thieves did have some pretty good taste. These are objectively beautiful things…heartbreakingly are not able to be viewed by the public anymore." — Isabel (47:05)
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6. Why Culture and Beauty Matter
(36:24–41:56; Episode Close)
- Values, Beauty, and Civilization:
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Isabel argues that the embrace or rejection of objective beauty reflects a society’s stance toward the divine, tradition, and the good.
- "Why should I remotely care what a celebrity is wearing…or how they’re dressing their kid? Because that is all part of a much larger, intricate web of how our culture is responding to the demands of our time, to tradition or chaos…to beauty or ugliness, to truth or lies, to goodness or evil." — Isabel (39:45)
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She encourages the audience to contribute their perspectives, reinforcing the show’s “community of truth seekers” ethos (47:30).
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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On high fashion’s descent:
- Isabel: "Our society is systematically degrading standards of beauty…as we try to say everything is beautiful, then nothing is. And we've watched a spiritual crisis in our society in the entire Western world in the last several decades as a result." (03:30)
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On Northwest’s public outfits:
- Link Lauren: "She's dressing like a little prostatot. And it's the mom's fault. It is Kim Kardashian's fault." (11:39)
- Isabel: "I see a tortured soul, lost woman…" (14:56)
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On shifting standards for women:
- Link: "They have made a living off of giving girls body dysmorphia and reasons to feel bad about themselves…" (21:16)
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On Kim K’s mask:
- Link: "What was the point of paying for all those body enhancements if you're going to put a sheet over your head?" (26:29)
- Isabel: "It's not bbls anymore. It's burkas, apparently." (27:41)
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On the D&G Roman Catholic collection:
- Isabel: "Look how intricately beautiful this is…This is what high fashion…is supposed to look like…" (35:34)
- "Literally, the symbolism of this outfit is putting on the armor of the…body of Christ, which is the most meta level, incredible alpha thing you could ever say about fighting back against culture." (35:22–35:34)
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On the Louvre heist:
- Dylan Page ("News Daddy"): "We just witnessed the heist of the decade… historic pieces of jewelry hundreds of years old…They were in and out in four minutes…” (43:13–44:35)
- Isabel: "These thieves did have some pretty good taste. These are objectively beautiful things…" (47:05)
Key Timestamps
| Segment | Topic | Timestamps | |---------|-------|------------| | 1 | Ugliness in high fashion | 00:26–05:53 | | 2 | Celebrities exploiting their kids’ image, Northwest | 05:53–15:26 | | 3 | Blue Ivy, age-appropriate looks, cultural comparisons | 18:16–21:07 | | 4 | Trans identity trends among celeb kids, Kardashian body image | 21:16–25:46 | | 5 | Kim Kardashian’s mask & commentary | 25:46–29:46 | | 6 | Dolce & Gabbana’s Catholic collection | 29:46–36:24 | | 7 | Why beauty matters in culture | 36:24–41:56 | | 8 | The Louvre jewelry heist | 41:56–47:30 |
Tone and Style
- Isabel and guests’ tone is passionate, informal, provocative, and unapologetically conservative.
- Frequent pop culture asides and quips ("slutty Bene Gesserit from Dune"; "prostatot"), but with earnest concern for the broader cultural climate.
- Emphasis on the importance of objective standards—both in beauty and in values.
Conclusion
The episode weaves together the spectacle and absurdity of current pop culture—from runway pranks to provocative celebrity parents—tying them to deeper questions about the soul of Western civilization. Isabel and Link suggest that the trend towards ugliness and confusion in fashion and popular culture mirrors a crisis of meaning, while new signs of beauty resurrected in high fashion and the popular hunger for tradition may signal a hopeful turn. The real-world Louvre heist, bizarre and cinematic, underscores the theme: even thieves recognize what’s truly beautiful.
Why does it matter?
Because, as Isabel argues, beauty is not just taste—it’s civilization’s commitment to the good, the true, and the divine.
