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A
Man, whenever I use a sportsbook during the soccer world championship, I feel like I'm getting robbed.
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Dude, delete that app. You need to be using Polymarket.
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Polymarket.
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Polymarket is a prediction market, not a sportsbook. You trade against other fans, not the house. That means more money for you and less for greedy sportsbooks.
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Even during the World Championship.
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Especially during the World Championship. Whether you're trading on who wins the next match or who lifts the trophy in the final, sportsbooks take around $9 on a $100 position and pay out around $500. Polymarket pays out 650 do on that same position.
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What's the catch?
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No catch. And it's available in all 50 states. Polymarket is so confident they're giving you $50 free on your first trade.
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C
Huh?
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How do I get started?
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D
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Trading not available in all jurisdictions. Check local regulations before trading. Restrictions and eligibility requirements apply.
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A
Man, whenever I use a sportsbook during the soccer world championship, I feel like I robbed.
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B
Dude, delete that app. You need to be using Polymarket.
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A
Polymarket.
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B
Polymarket is a prediction market, not a sportsbook. You trade against other fans, not the house. That means more money for you and less for greedy sportsbooks.
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A
Even during the World Championship.
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Especially during the World Championship. Whether you're trading on who wins the next match or who lifts the trophy in the final, Sportsbooks take around $9 on a $100 position and pay out around $500. Polymarket pays out $650 on that same position.
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A
What's the catch?
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No catch. And it' 50 states. Polymarket is so confident they're giving you $50 free on your first trade.
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C
Huh?
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How do I get started?
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Download Polymarket now and use Promo code pass for $50 free on your first trade. With the world championship heating up, stop letting sportsbooks steal from you. Download Polymarket and use Promo code pass for $50 free on your first trade.
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Use Promo Code Pass Trading not available in all jurisdictions. Check local regulations before trading restrictions and eligibility requirements apply. Surprise. Literally, one of my favorite people on the planet is in D.C. xavier Jeruso. Thank you for sitting down with and I'm psyched to get into all of the things that I know we want to talk about, but I didn't even know you were going to be in town and oh, my goodness. Bumped into you by total happenstance outside the White House press briefing room yesterday, where we got to walk through the UFC arena. Insane. I also hear through the grapevine you got to see some classified files about aliens yesterday at the White House. Does he know aliens exist? Does he not? I don't know. Maybe we'll get into that. But I feel terrible this morning when we offered you a beverage here at this beautiful studio that we film out here in D.C. i couldn't offer you your Erewhon smoothie because we are on the East Coast.
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E
Well, if it's a safe space. I'll be honest and admit I've had to scale back on the Erewhon smoothies.
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No, really.
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E
I was getting fat.
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C
Oh, no.
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E
Someone told me I was pudgy during one of my walk with me.
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C
Somebody in your comment section said that.
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E
And pudgy is like the worst insult, because fat, I'd be like, you're just a hater. But pudgy is very specific.
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C
Yeah, that's like actual feedback from someone who cares about you. Not somebody, no. Oh, that's terrible. Well, smoothie or not, I'm glad you're here, and I'm super excited to talk all things Xavier's universe. Let's start with California on the note of Erewhon smoothies, because your state is in a lot of hot water these last couple of weeks after all of the election shenanigans we've been seeing. We've covered that a lot in my content, and it's been so interesting to see Californians in particular come out of the woodwork and flood my comment sections saying, you guys have no idea what's actually happening here on the ground. People are overwhelmingly supportive of the Spencer Pratt of the world. We're wanting to oust the Gavin Newsoms and Karen Basses. We just can't keep living like this. But the system is so rigged against us that it's basically impossible for that to happen on election day. A few weeks ago, you saw this massive turnout for Spencer Pratt to become mayor of Los Angeles, and people did not expect him to receive the support that he did. But it's California, so election day is really election month, and they said it's going to take up to four weeks for us to count all of the mail in ballots for all of these other candidates. Lo and behold, now the election's been really pulled the rug out from underneath of his feet. Tell me what's going on. You posted a video with your experience on election day as well, and the Insane lack of verification of who people are when they show up to vote. Can you give us a State of L A update?
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E
Oh, where do I even begin? Well, first of all, I've been grieving for, like, a week.
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C
Well, you're not in black anymore, so this is good. This is good.
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E
Yeah, this is my first day feeling like I'm coming back to light. Maybe it's because I'm over in President Trump's dc, But that being said, it's like, this is part of why, first of all, that I don't want to leave la. Everybody wants me to leave la. And as much as, like, it's exhausting being in, you know, a communist city is what it feels like a lot of the times. It's like there are very few of us that are out there fighting, and it's like LA is worth saving. And there are so many people there that want to see the change, that want to see our city become better. And it's like, if none of us fight, it's like, then LA is just going to take this nosedive. And as we know, LA and New York City, those are two of the most influential, arguably the two most influential cities in the entire world, let alone our country. So to have both cities run by radical communists, it's just something that I'm not comfortable with and I never will be, no matter where I live. But as far as what's going on in LA right Now, yes, you're 100% right. The turnout for Spencer Pratt was amazing. And, you know, it was very refreshing to be able to see it, because one of the notorious problems for independents and Republican voters alike is a lot of us are very emotional, we're very frustrated. We want to see change, but for some reason, not enough people are getting out and going to the polls. Considering the amount of registered Republicans in la, there was actually a very strong turnout for Spencer Pratt, which is why on Election Day, you saw this huge spike for him. But then, like, it didn't surprise me that as the mail in ballots started coming in, that it started to skew because Republicans tend to vote in person rather than mail in ballots. But it's still very sketchy to see the amount of momentum that Nathiya Rahman just suddenly had out of nowhere to.
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On election night, she was crying her eyes out on the stage, saying that she conceded the election and that she was sorry to everyone, like her parents who tried to help her with this campaign, not sorry to her supporters, was basically no one in the audience at her party. And now here we are with this massive insurgents of support for her in mail in ballots. That just doesn't pass the smell test to me.
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Yeah.
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And it's very weird because it's like I can understand Karen Bass still maintaining some of her popularity because even just driving around la, like, granted, I don't really go to the hood, so I couldn't tell you what the hood is saying about these candidates. But if you drive around majority of la, whether you're in the civilized areas or the little rougher areas, it's like you see a bunch of science for Karen Bass and a bunch of science for Spencer Pratt. A very impressive amount of science for Spencer Pratt, I must say. But I have never once in my life seen any Thea Rahman sign. In fact, I barely even knew who she was. And so like the last few weeks of the election cycle, to the point where it's like as, as I started to see her become more popular, it was like suddenly, oh, is she actually a threat? Because I really didn't think she was going to be even close to the top two.
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C
Yeah.
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And then out of nowhere she gets this burst in popularity. And as you were referencing as far as like how easy it is to be fraudulent and all of LA county, there was a whole situation I got canceled for where essentially what had happened was I moved to Beverly Hills in January. And Beverly Hills is not LA proper. Beverly Hills is surrounded by la, but areas like West Hollywood, Santa Monica and Beverly Hills are separate cities. So when I had moved, there was some weird glitch that apparently happened to a lot of people that moved in the last year between the two cities. Is that my mailing address? And my ballot came to the correct address, my new Beverly Hills address. However, my ballot was still for la, as if I lived in, in la. So when I took my mail in and I didn't want to risk voting in LA for Spencer and being like, okay, well this is fraud because I don't live here. So I took my ballot, which I was going to surrender my ballot regardless, over to Beverly Hills and I explained the situation to them. And I will never forget the lady at the front who looked eerily similar to Karine Jean Pierre.
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C
That's unsettling, right?
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Already did not feel safe. I said to her, I was like, I'm a little confused because my ballot doesn't match my address. And she goes, don't worry, we'll make sure you vote. We're very progressive here. And she winks at me. And I was like, yuck. And then next thing I Know, they go and they have me talk to the. They had me go and talk to, like, the. I don't know what. They're the poll workers. And I explained them the situation. They're like, it's okay. Here you go. Here's a provisional ballot. Just. Or we're going to get you a provisional ballot. All you need to do is give us your name and your address. And I was like, that's it. I was like, do you need to see id? They're like, nope. I'm like, do you even need my birthday? They're like, you can put it on there if you want, but we only need your name and your address. And I'm like, so this is all it takes?
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So all these people showing up that
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day, showing up, giving your name and your address, giving my name and my new address, and that was all it takes. And then people are trying to say that I'm an idiot. They're like, you don't know how a provisional ballot works. They have to prove your identity. I'm like, stupid. This is what I'm trying to prove. It's like, so we agree. It's like, all they're needing to prove is that my address matches the name that I provided them. So if there's anybody that I know where they live and what their name is or what their prior address was, or if I just make something up, they are able to verify just based on the address matching the name. That was literally all I had to do.
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Oh, my goodness. Okay, this is interesting, and I want to get into this because I did a deep dive on California voter registration and what it takes to actually vote in these elections. And I was even shocked at how bad some of this actually is. Obviously, Nick Shirley has had really great content about all of this. In the last few weeks, he's been going to visit with people who are like, 100 years old, and they didn't even realize they were still registered to vote. But people have been filling out their ballots for them at addresses they no longer live at. But this is the more interesting thing to me. A few days ago, the United States Attorney for the area, obviously a representative of the Federal Justice Department, said that California is blocking a federal audit of its voter rolls. They are not allowing the feds to even remotely come in and look at voter registration in the state because they consider it an invasion of state privacy to verify that these people are real people, that they're not deceased and need to be removed from voter rolls, that they are citizens. And this is the other Interesting part of this, that they allow first time voters as a state to register using forms of ID that most Americans would find incredibly surprising, including your gym membership card, your employer ID card, your credit or debit card, a prescription drug label or an insurance card. Of course, California notoriously provides state run insurance to undocumented illegal immigrants every single day. So if you show up with a Costco card or a drug label on your prescription drug bottle that you bring in, that counts as voter registration for first time voters, as verification of your id. But now you're even telling me one step further, they didn't even want to see any of that. Nothing, nothing with your name on it.
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They didn't want to see an LA fitness card. For me, they just wanted to know my name. As long as I spelled my name correctly, that's all it took. And that's insane. It's like the thing to actually sit here and think that a gym membership card or something as minuscule as that, it's like actually going to be able to allow you to affect who our leaders are in our city or our state. Insanity. But yeah, they wanted no verification from me. They just trusted me. And I remember they even made a comment about like, oh, we trust that you're telling the truth. That's really, really bizarre. And it's just, it makes it really easy when you have so many illegal immigrants and you have so many people that are not eligible to vote in California being able to affect our elections. And then you pair that with now all the different videos that we were seeing of people getting literally paid, whether it's through $5 in cash or through cigarettes, to vote for these candidates. It's egregious.
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Okay, let's talk about that. Cause this is really interesting to me. These videos have been blowing up the last couple of days of people living on skid row. You say you don't go there very often. I've been a few times around the block to Skid Row when I was working with Prager U. And it's incredibly eye opening to see how people are living in a city that has some of the most federal subsidies going towards homelessness programs. I don't think any of that is actually being spent on people experiencing homelessness in Southern California. It's really sad. But you've had all these people come out of the woodwork and say, oh yeah, we don't know who they are. We don't really ask, we don't want to know. But people who clearly work for political parties are approaching us. The homeless Population on kid row saying, we will pay you to fill out this ballot and not even to just go vote, because theoretically, you could just go vote as yourself. And presumably you don't need an id. You don't need any sort of address verification. Anybody could just show up and do that. No. They're saying, here is a name and a signature that I need you to write on this ballot. It's not your name or your signature, but if you can write this name and this signature on this ballot and then hand it back to me, I'll pay you. This one really shook me this morning, and I'm dying to get your take on it.
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F
I met a man, a man at the train depot, and he said, are you a registered voter? And I said, no. And he said, well, that's okay. I want to pay you to vote. And I said, again, I'm not a registered voter. And he said, where are you going? I said, I'm going to North Hollywood. He said, oh, I'm going the same way. Just by chance, I'll meet up with you there. And he did. We both got off the train. He said, come over here and sit down. I sat down with him, and I said, again, I'm not a registered voter. He said, oh, that's fine. He pulled out his phone, and he. He said, do you got nice penmanship? Well, yeah. Why? Okay, here's the name. What I want you to do is write this name on this form and then sign the signature, and I'll pay you. I said, I'm not doing that, but I'll pay you.
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E
Queen.
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I said, I don't care. Oh, okay. He walked away.
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Wow.
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He was. He was trying to pay me to do voter fraud, and I'm not doing that.
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C
Good for her. Good for her, good for her. And she's not the only one. This video was also posted within the last 24 hours of a woman living on skid row saying that not only was she asked to do this and to fill out multiple ballots with multiple names and do all this stuff. Better yet, they wanted you to fill out multiple ballots, and they don't want your handwriting to look similar enough on all of the ballots. So they told people living on skid row, allegedly, to sign one ballot with their dominant hand and then use their other hand for the next ballot or use their foot for the next ballot or their nose for the next ballot, so that it didn't look similar enough that it might trip the system as having the same signature. Watch this.
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What? Who do you think these people are? With the ballots.
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C
Are they like political. They're working for political parties.
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Yeah, they are.
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They are. That's obvious.
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For like Democratic parties or we don't
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ask and they don't tell, but we
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know that they got answer to somebody
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by what they said. Don't it up because it's not authentic.
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I don't want to have to scratch it out.
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And don't let your signature look like the other signature. Can you use your other hand or
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can you write with your foot or your nose?
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C
I'm serious. They ask you to do that?
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Yeah, the balance.
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C
And I've done it just so I could get the money and added up and put my Betty at the time.
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But I had a monkey on my back. That is no joke.
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E
How many ballots would you sign at once?
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At least. Like if I was lucky, four or five a month. I would sign four or five ballots a month if I was lucky and they would pay me for that. And we think they work for the Democrat party, but we didn't ask. They didn't want us to know. They clearly weren't going to answer that. That's insane.
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E
That's so. That is like pure exploitation, mind you. These are people that are in horrific times that are just looking for survival and then this is what you're dangling in front of them. Like, commit this crime and we're going to reward you with $5. Like. Like, it's just so sad and so tragic. And if this is a safe space. This is why I also feel we need fewer people with voting rights. We need to have some competency test. There needs to. Because first of all, you shouldn't be voting if you don't know whom you're voting for or what you're voting about, let alone should we just have random people on skid row selecting our leadership? Yeah, it's like this is no shade to those people. But like, when it comes to voting, like, there are real consequences to what we're voting for. We're not just voting on whether or not we should increase or lower taxes anymore. Like, we're voting about, like, do we allow invasion into our country or not? Like, how are we going to be represented on a global scale? Like, we have jihadists here. We have people hopping the border and swimming here to wreak havoc and bring communism to our country. It's like we have to get serious and lock in on who it is that's making these decisions. And if our voting system is this just. Just fundamentally broken, then our entire country is going to collapse. We have not Been a nation for that long. Look at all these empires that have collapsed for smaller reasons than the fraud and the problems that we have here. I'm genuinely terrified. And I feel like anybody with survival instinct is going to get really serious about cracking down on what's happening with these elections.
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C
Do you remember during the last presidential election cycle when Vivek Ramaswamy suggested that when you graduate from high school, you should be able to pass a very basic civics test in order to be able to register to vote and people lost their minds. And I will admit, when he first said that, I was uncomfortable by that idea because I didn't love the idea of the government, like having to put you through this extra layer, probably through the public school system, of needing to change the government. That bothered me at first. And the more I sat with him and I talked about it when I was following him a little bit on the campaign trail and getting to know more about his policies, the more I ended up agreeing with it. Because it is asinine that the vast majority of American adults could not pass the citizenship test that we require of people to become citizens of this country. It's very basic questions, by the way. Like, I just took it. Actually, Prageru did this fun challenge on your guys website where you had people take the citizenship test. And it had been many years since I took it. And the questions are very basic, like, how many branches of government are there? Who was our third president? Like, the easiest possible things that you could imagine. And most people have no idea, right? Literally no clue. Do you like that idea going forward in the future?
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Oh, yes. And I was the same way at first. I was like, okay, that's too much. Because I'm always anti giving the government more power. But I'm starting to get to the point. I'm like, you know what? We do need to crack down. We do need to lock in on some of these things because it's like, you can even see the street interviews, the amount of street interviews I've seen of people that are eligible to vote and their vote counts just as much as mine. They can't tell you who the first president was. They can't tell you how many states we have. They can't even tell you where the capital of our country is. So it's like these people know nothing about what's happening. They just know. Vote blue, no matter who or this person's darker in complexion, well, let's go and vote for that person. Yeah, like this. This is not some African tribe war, okay? This is actually who is going to be leading the. Either the biggest cities or the entire country of our free world, or the states, et cetera. You know what I'm saying? But it's like, it's very frustrating to see that these people don't know what it is they're signing up for.
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C
Let's unpack that a little bit with this idea of tribalism, because I do think that is a massive component in this conversation about voter integrity, voter ID fraud, and so much more. The main excuse that the Democrat party has been giving for the last, I don't know, 20 years, really, our lifetime, about why voter ID is so evil and why we can never, ever, ever push for that at any level of government, local, state or federal, is because it's racist. And because somehow black people are not smart enough to figure out how to go get a driver's license or an ID card or, I don't know, a gym membership card. I mean, the most basic things in California. But white people can figure that out, but black people can't. I've always found that to be disgustingly racist and the bigotry of low expectations. But is that conversation starting to change a little bit with people waking up to this, do you think?
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E
You know, the thing is, is I've never met a single black person that was against voter id. Every single black person I've talked to about it, even my, like, Democrat friends and family members, when I. At least if they didn't know what the conversation was, what I explained to them, I'm like, well, they say that it's harder for someone like you to be able to get an ID or to get an id. How do you feel about that? They are egregiously insulted. Like, it's very disrespectful to look a black person in the eye and say, I think that you are so inept and incompetent that you can't even go and get something as basic as an idiot. And then you have like. Was it Kathy Hogle who once said that black people don't even know how to use computers?
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C
Yeah. Inner city kids living in the Bronx have never seen a laptop, basically, which is insane. I forgot she said that.
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E
Yeah, I will. Never will. Because what kind of third world country do you think that we all live in? You know, just because we are people of color does not mean that we don't have the same, you know, lived experience, like, similar lived experience as an American. So to sit here and act like we don't know how to get an id, it's so repulsive. And I'll never forget, wasn't it the like MLB championship? They moved out of Atlanta because of like the Georgia voter ID situation and then they moved it to a city that was predominantly white. So it's like all those black owned businesses that could have been flourishing from having such a massive sporting event be in their city, it's like, oh no, there's so much racism happening in this state because you're considering pushing voter ID that we're going to move it to an area that's going to be predominantly white businesses. So it's again the situation where these activists and these, these typically bored white liberals that are pushing for white liberal women. Bored white liberal women love to put their foot into business that's not theirs. They love to step in front of a black person and say, we are going to defend you from this racism when all you're doing is snatching the food off of our table. It's like if you just allowed black people to thrive and be treated like Americans, then you would see a lot more progress in the black community. But instead we're told to hyper fixate on our skin color and on this oppression that you're informing us that we deal with. But when we tell you that we don't, we're constantly being told about the oppression and the victimization and the racism that we're enduring. And then we are having limitations put on us because of the people who want to save us. It's so insulting. And it's that type of situation that has made me so happy that I walked away from the left because being on the left was the most ghetto experience of my life. And I will never go back.
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C
I sometimes forget that you were once upon a time a BLM activist because it's so shocking to me to see this evolution in you. And yet I think it's possible for everyone. Right? I've always believed that anyone can change their mind anything. I think I learned that from Charlie over the years and that he never gave up on trying to change people's minds. But I just can't continue to wrap my head around so many people buying into this bigotry of low expectations. It's the same thing for women, frankly. And this idea that women need to base our entire political worldview on the supposed right to kill our babies, that's the only thing that you are allowed to care about because you're not smart enough and you're not strong enough and you're not capable enough enough to go have it all to have a beautiful family and a beautiful career, or to finish school and have a beautiful family or whatever. Family itself is like the new oppressive shackles that are dragging women down into the pit of despair. Meanwhile, I don't know how we survive as a human race if we continue with that messaging, to be honest. But do you really think that all these white liberal women just honestly believe black people don't drive cars or rent apartments or have a job or, or pay tax? I mean any anything with your name on it.
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E
I can believe that they think that low of us. I really do. Like at this point. Or you know what, honestly, I take that back. It's not even just that they always think that low of us. It's like they don't actually think about our experiences when it comes to these white liberals. They don't actually think about the quality of life of black people that they're pretending to protect. What they're really thinking about is their own social justice status. A lot of them do it for their own ego and for their own self sense of elevation of being like, look at these brown folk that I helped. I'm such a good person. And as a wealthy, affluent, bored liberal white woman, I am spending all this time and energy helping people that have lesser than me. It's literally to give their self a pat on the back. And when they get around their friend circles of their other bored white liberal friends, because it's so funny, they love to act like they're these social justice warriors. But more often than not their entire friend group is very homogenous and everybody looks just like them. And it's a competition, it's like an Olympic sport to act like they're doing the most philanthropy when really it's just them putting us in a worse situation in order to keep having a victim that they pretend to help. It's a similar way if you use social status as a currency. It's very similar to what's happening, you know, back in California because like you were hinting at like the amount of money that's gone towards like the homelessness and all of that in LA and in California as a whole. What it is, it's like the worse the problem gets, the more funding you're able to allocate towards it. So it's literally fraud. You know, it's like it's by definition far you increase the budget by $5 billion, yet homelessness and addiction and all the real problems just continue to worsen. There's definitely an agenda afoot. And this has been going on for a long time. When you think of the slippery slope of pretty much all of these movements, whether it's civil rights, feminism, gay rights, anything of that sort, the reason it continues to get worse is because it becomes so profitable. Because you start with a movement that more often than not, has pretty good intentions of trying to make sure, like, people have, you know, equal rights and protected by the Constitution. But then these movements become so big and so lucrative and so powerful that they can't just stop. The goal is never to dissolve. So what they do is they keep expanding. How do we make this issue bigger? How do we encompass more issues? And that's why so many of these issues have gotten so big that they've started to merge with each other. And it's become just this entire umbrella of this web of activism. And somehow gay issues are also black issues, which are also immigration issues, which are also disability issues, climate issues. And it all becomes this collective oppression that we're supposed to view as this blob. And it just keeps getting worse because it's become a. It's become a corporation. It's become a massive industry. It's not about helping people anymore. It is an industry to pretend to help people. And the worse the problem is, the better it is for business.
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There is no better example of that than California. And that's the other side to this conversation that I think is interesting, because the voter fraud concerns are terrifying. I think we're moving in the right direction, and thank God we have the right people in federal office right now, who just this morning announced that they're going to be pursuing charges of voter fraud at the federal level. And I hope that that changes things in California. The signature verification thing and the voter ID thing, it's all bad. But most of that is not just an institutional problem. A lot of it's a cultural problem. California has institutionalized in the government, in every fiber of the government, this oppression industry, Incorporated, where they are literally fraudulently making unbelievable amounts of money off the continued oppression of the people who live there. This idea of the homelessness industrial complex where you have vowed to fix the problem. Look at Gavin Newsom, for literal decades in the state, saying, I'm going to be the one to fix it. Nobody else has fixed it. I'm going to be the one to fix it. There are now still a record number of people living on skid row. You're sending all of these publicly subsidized housing units to be filled out by illegal immigrants, not by people who desperately need it. Who are American citizens that our tax dollars are supposed to protect and save, and then they turn around. And when you expose all of these fraudulent schemes, like the Medicare schemes and the daycare schemes and all these things, like our friend Nick Shirley has, they then pass legislation called the Stop Nick Shirley act to criminalize investigative journalism. Not because fraud isn't happening, because of course we know it's happening. There have been federal charges across the board since Nick's video in California exposing just how bad this problem actually is, but because they don't want you to ever ask the question of whether it's happening. That makes you the radical terrorist and the crazy person.
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Yeah.
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Back to it with Xavier in just a second. But first, I just recently went to the grocery store and walked through the baby food aisle and I have never been more horrified about how many healthy, organic, greenwashed baby foods actually are horrible for my daughter. Like stuff that I was actually buying, feeding her and I had no idea, but picked up my Olive app to scan it and it was completely shocking to me. The packaging makes all these foods look super healthy. But thanks to Olive, now we know the truth. The amount of stuff hiding in these healthy foods is actually insane. Which is why I love the Olive app actually. It is so easy to use now. Every time I'm at the grocery store, I just whip out my phone, I pull up the Olive app, it through the camera scans the barcode of whatever food I'm looking at, that and rates every single food that you're scanning out of a hundred. A score of 100 out of 100 is incredibly safe to eat. 0 out of 100 is avoid at all costs. You can scan entire shelves really, really quickly. They have no ads, no specific brand partners, and rely on actual scientific testing of food to prove to you what you're feeding to your kids really matters. I have cared so much more about what I'm eating since becoming a mom and Olive has made it so, so easy. Especially when you have a thousand different things going on and don't have the extra time to do a lot of research yourself. If you're trying to make better choices but don't want grocery shopping to become a full time job, Olive is definitely worth checking out. You can go download the Olive app for free for seven days in the Apple app and Google Play stores today. That's O L I V E Living in California, what's your experience with that institutionalization? And do you think that we ever reach a point where you're in too deep and there's just no chance of saving that.
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You know, I try not to be too pessimistic about it, and I also try not to be too optimistic about it. You know, something I learned from Dennis Prager is that when you are too positive about an issue's ability to be resolved, then you get complacent and you don't do the work. But when you also become too negative about it, then you become so demoralized that you don't want to work on it. So, for me, it's like I'm just focused on trying to expose as much as I can and trying to fight as much as I can to fix this problem, because I do feel great empathy for these people. There's no as frustrated as I get with the homelessness. Like, there's never going to be a time where I pull up, I get off the highway, for example, and I see somebody holding a sign that's visibly hungry, probably on drugs, skin decaying. That always makes me sad, because that's a human being that I'm looking at. And then it makes me angry because I think about the fact that a lot of these homeless shelters are empty.
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Yeah.
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And if they're not empty, they're filled with illegal immigrants. They're not filled with homeless people. And what's crazy is I actually learned that these homeless shelters are empty from the most progressive friend that I have. She's a. A podcaster named Lauren Peritra, and she was the one that told me that these homeless shelters are empty. And her explanation of why she thinks it's a problem is different from mine. You know, she believes basically that, if I remember her words correctly, she essentially said it's the homeless shelter's fault because they have all these restrictions, that you can't be there while addicted to drugs. And I'm like, I feel like we're looking at this opposite. I think, if anything, that's the problem within itself. We're not doing anything to clean the drugs up. In fact, we're making it easier for them to do drugs.
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You're bringing drugs to the people with these mobile injection clinics. It's insane.
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Yeah.
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And then their explanation is, well, we want to make sure that they have clean needles so they don't get hiv. It's like you're worried about hiv, and I'm worried about, you know, the fact that they're going to die on heroin. So it's like, what's better? So it's like, you don't want hiv, but you're going to make it more likely for you to die of heroin. It's like, okay, because that's the solution here. It's just absolutely inhumane how awful the whole thing is getting. And everybody feels it. It doesn't. Like, luckily in Beverly, part of why I moved to Beverly Hills is because it's the only area, and I mean truly the only area in LA county for the most part, that you don't encounter homeless 24 7, because everywhere else, essentially you do. Even if you live in Malibu, you'll have a $25 million home and what's in front of your front lawn is a homeless encampment. It's like you literally can't escape it. And it's like some of these people, they're tweaked out on drugs. So it's very dangerous. If you pull out the citizen app on your phone, and this is not an ad, but if you pull out the citizen app on your phone, it tells you like some of the crimes that are happening locally. And the reason I had to move out of Studio City is because where I used to live every. I'm not kidding, I can show you the notifications. It was like every four days there was a trash fire started by the homeless person that lived behind my building. He was putting our whole building through hell. We kept calling the police on him and he's always out within 48 hours. It's dangerous. He's going to burn down the whole neighborhood. But I digress. But all that to say it's very hard, it's very hard to watch. It's very heartbreaking to watch and every single person in LA feels it. So the fact that it's this hard to get these people out of office, it's very sad. And what I will also say another thing on that note, something I've noticed living in la, because I've been there for three and a half years now. I used to live in the San Francisco Bay area, Illinois before that. But since I've been in la, what I've noticed is that the people who have been there for five plus years, almost every single one of them is at minimum independent, if not right leaning. Every person that I personally know, besides one that lives in LA has they voted for Spencer Pratt. But the thing is, is the two components that keep LA so woke is one, you have the people who live like in the skid row area, so whether they actually voted or they're just getting all the propaganda, or two, you have these people that move to LA with delusion and eating disorder and a dream and they just have this perspective of, I'm gonna make it in Hollywood. In order to make it, I have to be a spec progressive as I possibly can be, right? You have these people that come into la, they vote for the worst candidates and the worst policies imaginable, and then when they can't afford it, they can't deal with the danger anymore and they realize how much of a hellhole LA has become. Instead of recognizing, oh, maybe this is because of the exact policies that I voted for. Instead, they leave LA and they leave LA with the problems that they just voted into our offices and then they
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rinse and repeat in the next city that they move to, like Dennis, Denver or Seattle or any of these cities. I mean, it's really scary. That's an interesting component. It's almost like there's this, for lack of a better term, migration problem of young progressive voters bouncing around the city after city after city all over the country and just bringing the problems with them and then leaving them behind.
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They ruin every city they go to. So, like, every so many years you see an LA Max an LA Max exodus to various cities. So like Nashville, Austin, even Dallas is getting infiltrated. These cities that you would think would be right leaning have become so aggressively woke. Like, if you ever meet someone from Nashville, particularly somebody in law enforcement, just see if they'll tell you off the record how awful the city of Nashville has become. That was a city I thought was as bleeding red as an American heart could be. But no, these people are leaving cities like LA and they're completely ruining it. Ruining it. And the crime and everything that comes with it, it's there.
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The last thing we'll talk about with California is kind of on this note as well. That's happening on the citizen side of things, on the government side of things, things you're watching very quietly. These career politicians who are incredibly corrupt, like Gavin Newsom, build up the infrastructure of government, not advertising it to the public, but to a level that then completely violates some of your most basic rights as a citizen as well. I mean, we've seen this across the board, all over the country. We saw this a lot under the Biden administration with the level of surveillance that was happening on American citizens. At the federal level too. The FBI was like spying on moms, testifying at school board meetings and Catholics going to church on Sunday and then attempting to put those people on terrorist watch lists alongside Al Qaeda and isis because they represent the same threat to society, essentially. Newsom just announced this week something that's really interesting to Me, or I guess this last month. And nobody in the mainstream media is talking about this, but I'm dying to get your take on it. California, I guess, is conglomerating, like all of their oversight regulatory agencies for businesses. Those are, you know, the parts of the government that nobody likes to deal with that just slap fines on you for being a banker or real estate agent or selling alcohol at your convenience store and all these things that you are in non compliance over. And they don't have a big threshold or burden of proof that they have to prove to you as to why they're finding you. They just like to find you because, you know, that's the government. So fun. They're combining all of this into one gigantic cabinet level agency that reports directly to Gavin Newsom called the Business and Consumer Services Agency. And this agency is going to oversee everything, the financial industry, real estate, alcohol and, and drug and cannabis sales all over the state. They are combining all of this together. Mortgage lenders, consumer facing tech companies. I mean, California is the hub of technology for the entire country essentially. Just because they want to charge you out the frigging wazoo for fines for not following state regulation. This isn't even widespread knowledge of what the law in California is. It's the very nuanced, tiny regulations in state code. And he appointed this guy that's a fascinating choice named Rohit Chopra, who used to do financial regulation for the Obama and Biden administrations here at the federal level. No coverage by the mainstream media at all. None. And I'm terrified for the future of California business owners, frankly, who now are going to have this massive gigantic magnifying glass on them, looking for anything that remotely doesn't pass the smell test for Gavin Newsom, where they'll shut you down, they'll take away your business, they'll fine you. It reminds me a lot of COVID And California was the worst perpetrator of all of that. During COVID I mean, you blinked wrong and you were immediately put out of business because you represented a threat to the government. That type of stuff happens every day in California. And this growing bureaucracy of government agency that feels almost like this hamster wheel you can't quite escape from because now it's so big that I don't know, even if by some amazing stroke of luck Gavin Newsom was recalled tomorrow, which has been tried a gazillion times and just hasn't happened, I don't know how the next guy undoes all of that. Do you even think that's possible to shrink the Bureaucracy of the California government,
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it's getting so big that I don't know how possible that is. It's like, I'm very hopeful that Steve Hilton is able to get into office, but I don't know how much of the damage he'll be able to undo. Because essentially, Gavin Newsom is like the Woodrow Wilson of our time. And what he is doing is he is making the California system so powerful that one person won't be able to. To ever fix it. Similar to, like, what's happened in our country. We're still dealing with the effects of what people like Woodrow Wilson put into place. And, you know, when you sit there and you think about it, it's like, if I know Gavin Newsom claims that he can't read, I'm like you.
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I'm no better than you. You know, I'm a 960sat guy. You've never seen me read a speech because I cannot read a speech, because
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I still am not over that little tirade he went on. But it's like, I. I genuinely.
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Also about race. Wasn't that one.
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Yeah, yeah. Just telling the group of people, oh, I'm just like you. I can't read just like you, like. But he was onto something there, considering the literacy rates in California are so horrible. But, you know, that being said, I'm not even kidding. I would love. If there was one thing I could know about Gavin Newsom, I would love to just go into his home and look at his bookshelf. I'm so serious. I want to know how much of a communist and a Marxist he truly is. Because I actually, I'm on this new kick of where, like, I need to read what the enemy is talking about. So I just read Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto.
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Been a while since I've repicked that one back up, but it's a hard read.
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Yeah, someone actually brought it up. Like, I talk about it all the time. I'm like, you know, I've never actually read that book. So I sat down to read it to understand their mindset, and it's like, oh, no, they truly want us all to be dirt broke, eating bugs, classless and cashless. Like, they want us to be that miserable. And their whole thing about it, it's like, oh, well, if you have any kind of wealth or private property or anything, that means that you exploited people to get here. But somehow, some way, they still want the people at the top of government to hold that power, but they don't want anybody else to do so. So I say all this to say, when I look at Gavin Newsom and I look at his ideas, they are making it so close to impossible to be successful in California. Yeah, like the amount of businesses that are just fleeing out of the state, the amount of wealth that is fleeing out of the state, like LA itself isn't even like the hub of entertainment anymore. It's not the Hollywood you think that it is. People are going to Atlanta, they're going to Miami, they're going to Las Vegas, even they're going to Texas, Nashville, they're going everywhere. Besides staying in la, you rarely see paparazzi anymore. Hollywood is the dirtiest hole in the world. Like literally all of the glamour of Hollywood is gone. There's barely ever even filmings in LA anymore because of how, how horrible the bureaucracy and the red tape has gotten. So now you're seeing this expanding and like I was saying earlier, how all these different sectors of activism are getting merged now. He's doing that with the oversight.
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Yep.
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All that's doing is making it that much harder to appeal. It's making it that much harder to actually function as a business. And what they do that to be slick as well. They will change the rules and the policy so often. This actually just happened to a good friend of mine who almost went to jail because of it, because a last minute rule got changed and there's no like, you know, real press release or like information that's sent out out. It's like they change it and the next week they're enforcing it and they do not make it clear what it is that they're, you know, changing the rules relating to. So it's like all these business owners are scrambling to try to keep their businesses afloat. And again, Gavin Newsom is just making it more difficult. So it genuinely makes me have so much fear of like, what is it that you want? Do you want everything to be government run? Do you want all these businesses to be owned by the government? Because that to me seems like it could be the only explanation of why he's driving out all this businesses. Everything is becoming corporatized in a way that it's not in favor of capitalism, it's in favor of communism. And I don't know where we go from here if all of these rules and laws end up getting passed.
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Well, I will say I have been maybe the conservative movement's worst black pillar about California, which I apologize for. I speak from experience as a Coloradan. Okay. I watched it happen in real time. But I have had this weird glimmer of hope about California the last few weeks, seeing people talk so candidly about this LA mayoral election, about wanting to change the systems of voting, about voter fraud, it's been a really wonderful change of pace. And I think a lot of that has to do with people like you continuing to fight for the state. So I'm glad that you're there, even though I don't have to be, thank goodness. Thank you, God. Instead, I'm just in the side of all of the insanity on the East Coast. So that's a different conversation. Let's switch gears a little bit because you've been talking a lot these last few days about the updates with the Carmel Anthony case and I really appreciate your level of nuance on the subject. I think you've had a very level headed take on all of this and yet you've pissed off the entire Internet in the process. What else is new? That's just Xavier drinking your things, I guess. We just found out that Carmelo Anthony is about to spend 35 years in prison. I think he's eligible for parole about halfway through, to my understanding, after he fatally stabbed Austin Metcalfe during an altercation when they were teenagers. This is a tragic story. It's absolutely horrifying. Metcalf's family, family has been incredibly, well, outspoken about the continued fight for their family. It is so tragic and it breaks my heart every single time I open the Internet and I see his twin brother. I cannot imagine the pain that this family is going through. And yet there's been another family involved in all of this that is breaking my brain a little bit. And that's Carmelo's parents who have raised most people are suggesting upwards of $700,000 in give send, Go campaigns and Go Fund me campaigns, chains. People suggest that they might be spending the money on some really heinous, insane personal expenses. Like, I don't know what those are, maybe vehicles or nose jobs. I've heard a lot of conflicting opinions. All of this is happening. They're going on this massive all, all national, multinational media tour about their son saying, our son did nothing wrong. Our son did nothing wrong. Wearing T shirts that say believe Carmelo. Carmelo didn't even testify, really, at his own trial. He didn't say anything. So I don't know how you're supposed to believe, believe anything that he says. Sobbing their eyes out on camera. And then when all was said and done, they didn't even show up for their own son's sentencing hearing to say goodbye to their son for 35 years in prison. What's your take on all of this and the fallout that's been happening in the race conversation in our country because of it?
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Where do I even begin? There's so much to unpack with this situation. Well, first of all, I think I guess where we should begin is justice was served. Justice was duly served. Because no matter what led up to it, no matter what the situation was, no matter if race was involved or not, what you just saw was a teenager stabbed in the heart over a very childlike argument. Something that was so adolescent that should have left. Worst case scenario of what that situation should have been is maybe they threw hands, maybe they just like teenage jocks do, got into a fight or a scrap. That should have been the absolute worst case scenario. But Carmelo putting a knife into Austin's heart is just something that's, in my opinion, unforgivable. You know, but by the grace of God, I pray for the family because they are saying that they have forgiveness in their heart. I don't know if I would be able to. You know, that's such a horrific thing to go through. So let's start there. And a lot of people were asking me if I thought 35 was enough, especially he is eligible. I think you were right. 17 years, I think that's a fair verdict. Because had he been given life in prison, I would not have bat an eye at it. I would have been like, you know what it is what it is. You took a life, you give your life. But I think 35 years is a fair sentencing only because of how young he was when he did it. His life is virtually over in so many ways. But when you think about just the scale of how the law works, 35 years to me, makes sense for somebody that's 17 years old when they committed this crime. But nevertheless, I hate that this situation became about race because I still have my PTSD from George Floyd.
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And the red feeling feels very reminiscent of a new cycle. Cycle of that.
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Exactly. Because it's like one of the things with, like, the George Floyd situation. It's like. Because that was the whole. That was one of the big catalysts of me becoming red pilled and starting to realize how much the whole racial division that happens in our country is by design. And I was on this case very, very early. Like, I'm talking, like, kids from Centennial High School were messaging me about it before it even hit mainstream news. So from the very first moment I learned about the situation, from when Austin Metcalf had, like, literally the Day he died. I had been following Case because I just had this hunch that it was going to be a huge story, and I just wanted to make sure all the facts were as correct as possible and similar. And I hate comparing things to George Floyd because I feel like that's, like, such a tired trope at this point. But if we're going to use that example, just like in the George Floyd situation, no matter how you feel George Floyd died, there's no real proof or explanation as to why people think that that was a racially charged situation. And when I look at what happened between Carmelo and Austin, that, to me, had nothing to do with race either. What I saw there, especially as someone who ran high school track, I understand 10 culture. I understand. You know, I don't know why Carmelo had his knife, but sometimes I explained to people, sometimes you do have a knife. I had a knife with me at every track meet because I would have to cut ankle tape. I would have to get. I would have to get dirt out of my spikes. I would have to cut chalk, all those different things. Would I ever use it as a weapon? Absolutely not, because I'm not a psychopath. But why, like, I tried to explain all the different things of trying to just make sense of the situation and what I understand from this situation. Carmelo Anthony did actually have a friend that was initially in the tent. I don't know if he was still there at the time of the murder or not, but the person that he went there dapped up that had him waiting under the tent because it was raining and his team's tent wasn't there yet. It was coming on a second vehicle. So it made sense why he was initially under the tent. But he 100% overstayed his welcome, and everybody was telling him to leave. I wish he would have left. I wish when you had have 15 different people or 15 times you're being told to get from under under this tent, you're clearly not welcome there. Walk away. That's literally all he would have to do, and his life would be saved, and there would still be a life on this earth in Austin Metcalfe. But instead, it turns to, basically, the locker room leader comes over, and it's like, you need to go now. Where the controversy comes in, the. The take that people got really mad at me for, and it's not even really a hot take. It's me just, like, trying to explain what actually happened happened is. I was telling you this before. My Twitter feed is very split. I have black Twitter, and I have conservative Twitter. And then they're bridged by the Nicki Minaj barb because they're the maga barbs.
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Led by you, obviously, led by me
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as a pioneer of the maga barbs. So I was able to see both narratives develop in real time again since the very beginning. And what I was seeing is all these different. And the whole thing popped off because everybody immediately made it about race. And once you start making it about race from either side, then the other side is going to retaliate. Of course. And what I started seeing is that everybody was trying to harp in on this argument that Carmela was acting in self defense. So what I was saying, it's like, okay, I'm going to acknowledge your quote unquote self defense argument. I'm going to acknowledge that yes, Austin Metcalfe, whether some of the witnesses said it was a shove, like a hard shove, some of the witnesses basically made it seem like it was just like a push on the shoulder. I will acknowledge, yes, Austin Metcalfe did, did touch Carmelo. However, that was not a proportionate response. What Carmelo did. If someone pushes you, even if it was a hard shove, that does not justify pulling out a knife and putting it into somebody's heart. So what my post said, and maybe I could have worded it better, as I said, two things can be true at once. Yes, Austin was picking on. And the reason I used the word picking on, I meant it in a childlike way. Like bullying is aggressive. When I say pick on, it's like if someone comes up to you and just like pushing you, you, it's like picking out. It's a kiddie word. Probably shouldn't have used that term because it's like it's an emotional time. So people took that and ran with it. But yes, Austin did touch Carmelo. But someone touching you, even if he shoved you, does not justify what Carmelo did. Those two things can be true at once. And the only conversation I feel like that should be racially related when it comes to this matter is let's talk about within black holes culture. Because Carmelo Anthony, everybody is assuming that he came from a really ghetto hood family. And from what I'm seeing, that's not the case. They already lived in a $900,000 home. He came from a two parent household. He actually had great grades. He was also captain of his team during at least certain years. And he really had everything going for him, which is part of why it's so sad for me to see like you were an anomaly. You were one of these black kids that had everything on paper going right for you, and you threw it and ended a life because you decided to do what I call the typical YN mentality, if you know what that stands for. The typical YN mentality, this hood rat mentality of I'm emotional. I have to show that I am big and bad. And even though my life is not threatened by showing that I'm big and bad, now I'm gonna talk about it and be about it. To touch me and see what happens. To stab someone in the heart, it's like, it really breaks my heart to see so many black, young black kids. Kids have this mindset that your violent emotional response is like the de facto response. Like that being what your go to method of communicating is, is insane. And this is why the black community is so doomed. Because instead of that being the conversation and the conversation of why are so many black kids so violent, instead of that being the conversation, instead, the racial conversation that's happening is, oh, there was racism. Where what are we talking about? Even if. And he didn't, but even if Austin said that he was a slur, that doesn't justify what happened here.
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Yeah.
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And that ultimately, as a black person, I can't tell you how many clips I've seen about this in the last couple of days as a black person. Even if all of the evidence suggested that Carmelo did this, that it was unjustified, that it was homicide, that it was murdered, murder, I wouldn't convict him because I have to stick with my people. And you're gonna stick with your people. That's scary. That is a. That is a terrifying direction for our country to be going in, and yet that's celebrated by the thousands on social media right now.
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It's humiliating for me to watch because as a black conservative, there's this. There's this trope that people say called a tragic mulatto. And what a tragic mulatto is in a general sense sense is if someone's half black and they're half white and there's like a race war, quote unquote, happening. It's like, which side do you go on? Well, as a black conservative, a lot of people will like, zoom in and be like, well, how do you feel about this? Are you going to be loyal to your race? You're going to be loyal to the conservative movement? And to me, I'm just like, I'm loyal to the truth. And the truth of this matter is I just watched a kid stab a kid and it's like. And if you never mentioned their race to me, I would still stand on my belief system. But since you want to make it about race, it's like, okay, he was a black kid. That was a white kid. White kid. You're still going to prison for 35 years because you just committed murder. And it's very embarrassing for me to watch this because it's like, I've tried to defend the good of black culture because I'm not an anti black person. Because there is, like, a weird thing that happens in the black conservative movement sometimes where, like, a lot of people feel like you have to just hate every component of black culture in order to be conservative. And I just don't buy that at all. I think that's an Internet thing. Thing more than it's a reality. There's a lot of black conservatives that love being black. I love my identity. I love my complexion. I love the history that comes with being a black American. But that being said, I would never view it in a tribal way. Even when I was woke, I don't think I ever would have viewed it in a tribalistic way of this person's black. So I have to stand beside them. It's like, I'm not going to stand besides a murderer. And I remember one of the things that really made me wake up to the George Floyd situation is I was looking at the situation like, you know, once I started to learn more facts about the case and everything, and people kept saying to me, that's like, that could have been your brother. That could have been you. That could have been your uncle. That could have been your father. And I'm like, that could have been none of the sort. What are you talking about? And if it was somebody in my family, they would not have been in that situation. So it's just very difficult as someone who wants to defend that black people don't have this mentality to see black people have that exact same mentality. It's more mortifying. And I just want so much better for the black community. But it's like, what's the expression? They don't want to be saved, don't save them. It's like, I'm watching the black community prove in real time. It's like, we can't heal and elevate as a culture because you guys are having this tribalistic mentality with absolutely no accountability.
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Yeah.
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If you can't hold Carmelo Anthony accountable, you're never going to hold your own children accountable. And then we're going to see this cycle of crime and violence continue to worsen, let alone remain.
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What it is is what's also concerning to me about this idea of, it doesn't matter. I wouldn't convict. It doesn't matter what the preponderance of evidence is. Ultimately, the presumption of innocence or guilt boils down to my affinity with the person on the stand. I think that has the tendency now to escalate into other areas of American culture and certainly our justice system, not to talk too much about the Derek Chauvin trial, but I was so glued to that trial in particular because. Because literally every single piece of evidence. I'm not saying this as like a spoiled, privileged white person telling black people, go, go look up the research for yourself. Anyone can go look up this research. Not a single piece of evidence at all in that trial would have ever led you to reasonably believe that George Floyd died from asphyxiation. Every single element of his autopsy, everything from the medical examiner, everything from suggested that he died from an overdose and from other contributing causes, not from choking to death by someone putting their. Their knee on your neck. And yet Derek Chauvin is now spending the rest of his life in prison for. For homicide. His life is ruined. His life is over for something that objectively the science said he didn't do. But that didn't matter ultimately, because the fear of being canceled by the Summer of Love BLM activists, for the members of the jury, was probably more important to them immediately, in that moment moment, than actually serving justice. And so a miscarriage of justice happened. To be totally honest with you, Xavier, I'm terrified of this happening for Tyler Robinson's trial. Not because of race or skin color, but because of this larger culturally aggravating factor that maybe it's more important regardless of what the evidence says, regardless of whether we know you pulled the trigger. Maybe it's more important for me as a juror to make some sort of political statement about the idea of a foreign government or the idea of. Of certain WOKE activism groups or whatever that's bigger than just this one kid who the evidence suggests overwhelmingly, and we'll see all of this play out in trial, was, of course, the person who killed Charlie. I mean, the amount of evidence that they have on this kid is astronomical, More than any evidence for any trial I've ever seen in my lifetime. And I'm a legal nerd. My parents are both lawyers, so I follow trials very closely. It terrifies me, this idea of, well, it just doesn't matter. Matter. Doesn't matter what the evidence says, doesn't matter what the truth is, doesn't matter whether it even actually happened. It's more important for me to make a statement about something else that's totally unrelated to the situation unfolding in this courtroom. That massive miscarriage of justice is going to be served across the board in our country. I don't know how we continue to operate as a society that way.
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What are we without a proper judicial system? Like, that's genuinely very terrifying. And I don't think that you're. I don't think that you're overstating or exaggerating that at all. It's genuinely one of the scariest things that can happen in our country. Because if we don't start, you know, if we don't have basic core principles of prioritizing the truth and the judicial system, then everything in our country can fall apart. And it's also one of Those weird catch 22s that I'm watching happen because it's like you have these people that, like these woke people that are like, well, we are going to defend this person because of our emotions or our politics rather than the truth. But then those are the. Also the same people that will be up in arms and say that the judicial system isn't fair to certain people. Right? So it's like you're saying that the judicial system isn't fair to black people, but you also want the judicial system to be based on your race or your political ideology. It's like you can't have both. Like you are literally corrupting it at both ends. So it's. And I didn't even think about the fact that like the Tyler Robinson case of this, if this. Something similar to that happens, that will be one of the most demoralizing things to have happened to our nation in a really long time. And I don't know, just without justice, we're not going to be recognizable as a country. And if people are going to be tribalistic, I wish they were at least tribalistic as Americans. I wish that people would take that energy of they have in defending their race and defending their culture and defending their political views. What about defending our constitutional republic? What about defending our right to fair and safe elections? What about defending our country from the cluster of communists and Islamists and jihadists and all these different people that want to come and wreak havoc over here and wipe out Western civilization. Why don't we have that same tribalistic mentality of keeping that out of our country? We have all these people that are fleeing other countries saying that they're trying to flee communism and come here, but really they're just bringing communism here. Here. It's like we have all these existential threats to our country. And instead of waking up and prioritizing, making sure that we are strong as a nation, as the beacon of the free world, we're instead imploding and allowing ourselves to implode on something as idiotic as your skin complexion. And I believe it was Brandon Gill. I saw him say this recently. Where he said, yes, America's a melting pot, but the problem is people are not melting. We are becoming a multicultural society at this moment point, rather than a diverse society. And that is problematic. We're seeing. I'm seeing all over Twitter, people are calling for segregation again. Like even one of my closest friends from back home who's still woke. I saw on Facebook, she posted recently that she wishes that white or she wishes that black kids would stop sending their students to predominantly white schools. And then everybody in the comments are all saying that they wish that we had segregation back and that maybe MLK did not have a point point. And I'm like, we are regressing at a way I am completely baffled by. We should be learning how to coexist and be diverse and be better again, rather than. And it. And I hate even using the term coexist. It's really like, I just don't have this mindset of viewing everything through the lens of race. And it's just scary to realize that people are doing that again.
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If you could have a message for our generation, regardless of what their skin color is for, how to live that way and how to overcome this consistent barrier of division that seems to be the driving force of the left for a million different reasons, what would it be?
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You have to remember, if it weren't for the privileges that you have in this country, you wouldn't even be able to criticize this country because there are so many people that are so frustrated and becoming so tribal and becoming so anti American and hating on our system so much. It's like the fact that you even have the right to criticize the system is why you need to defend the system. If we don't have American values, Judeo Christian values, our constitutional rights, and we allow ourselves to become this tribalistic mentality of viewing everything through race and wanting all this foreign opposition to be normalized here, we're gonna lose everything. We're gonna lose every privilege that we have. And then what does it look like then? It looks like. Like you're worried about whether I'm black and you're white, when really we're going to end up all just being equally poor, equally miserable, and probably worshiping Allah. So unless you want that to be the literal norm in our country, I really suggest you start having some patriotism.
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C
This has been a hard interview and a heavy interview. We talked about a lot of deep subjects. So to end us on a high note, what gives you hope for our country and for our generation?
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People like you, people like you and those that are willing to say something and do something, like you said earlier, California is giving a glimmer of hope. Even though I'm hoping what's recently developed isn't gonna stomp that hope out. I'm really hoping that the federal government getting involved, which is something I rarely ever say,
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C
that probably will never be
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said again, actually the first time I've ever I'm ever happy that the federal government is getting involved in local issues. Hopefully they're able to expose some of this fraud and overturn some of the lies that we are watching happen in real time. And if, if in a city like la, you can see this many people standing up and finally taking the dinner conversation to the polls and to, you know, social media and to the streets, I'm hoping that the rest of the country is able to wake up and be really willing to fight again. To.
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C
I'm seeing it every day, largely because of people like you. Next time, I'll come to your neck of the woods. I know it's been a while. It's been a really long time since I've been to Southern California.
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E
And I'll have a smoothie ready for
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C
you and you'll have a smoothie ready for me. But we won't drink too many because Lord knows what happens.
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E
Can't be much cheap.
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C
Where can people watch your show and support you and continue just praying for you and the amazing work that you're doing.
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E
Thank you so much. I'm on YouTube, SpectfullyExavier and then my Instagram, Facebook threads even and Tik Tok are Xavier, but it's a regular spelling. Xav I A E R the best
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C
spelling if you ask me. I abandoned threads a long time ago. It was like one too many things that I just couldn't keep up with. So more power to you for still being on the platform.
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E
One of the few.
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C
Xavier, thank you so much for joining us.
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E
Thanks for having me.
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