The Isabel Brown Show
Episode: Why Young Americans Are FURIOUS About The 50-Year Mortgage Plan, H1B Visas, & Feckless Conservatism
Host: Isabel Brown | The Daily Wire
Date: November 12, 2025
Overview
In this episode, Isabel Brown dives into the growing anger and frustration among Gen Z and young conservative Americans towards recent policy proposals from Washington, D.C.—specifically the controversial 50-year mortgage plan, the role of H1B visas, and the perception of insufficiently conservative leadership. Using polling data, viral commentary, and extensive feedback from her audience, Isabel unpacks why young people feel unheard by policymakers, where proposed solutions are missing the mark, and what genuine conservative governance should look like moving forward.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Gen Z’s Disillusionment with D.C. and Conservatism
- Isabel opens by highlighting the palpable anger among young Americans toward policies like the 50-year mortgage, H1B visa expansion, and growing numbers of international students, especially from China.
- “Gen Z is big, big mad about the 50 year mortgage, 600,000 Chinese college students, and H1B visas among so many other things.” (00:34)
- She references polling data showing a sharp drop in youth support for the Trump administration, with approval among Trump voters under 35 falling from 95% to 69%, and national support among voters under 29 dropping from 55% to 28%. (01:24)
- Isabel asserts that young conservatives, particularly men, want more focus on America-first policies and a government that puts citizens first—not foreign entanglements or globalist priorities.
- “If anything, I would argue young men probably don’t think President Trump is conservative enough.” (03:10)
- She pushes back on stereotypes about Gen Z, arguing her generation is more conservative than mainstream pundits acknowledge.
- “We are the most conservative generation culturally and politically in modern American history.” (05:01)
2. The 50-Year Mortgage Plan: Critique and Backlash
- Isabel explains the Trump administration’s proposal to extend mortgage terms to 50 years in hopes of making homeownership more affordable for young people.
- “One of the solutions proposed … was to change our structure of mortgages … because it would lower the monthly payment on your principal…” (07:48)
- Laura Ingraham’s interview with Trump highlights MAGA backlash, calling the plan “a giveaway to the banks.” Trump downplays the significance, but Isabel notes that the math is disastrous for young buyers.
- Trump: “It’s not even a big deal. … You pay less per month. … It might help a little bit.” (09:31)
- Isabel’s analysis:
- The average age of first-time homebuyers is now around 40, and only 21% of home purchases are by first-timers; the median overall buyer age is 61. (10:52)
- A 50-year mortgage, compared to 30 years, slightly lowers monthly payments but dramatically increases total interest paid—leaving most buyers unlikely to ever truly own their home.
- “You are saving $250 a month… but you are paying $571,000 more in extra interest paid.” (14:48)
- Powerful quote: “It’s giving you will own nothing and you will be happy. … None of this is giving American Dream at all.” (15:53)
- She critiques both left and right, saying neither side offers real ownership—only more consumption and dependence.
- Quoting Patrick "Catholic Pat": “Both sides… keep more money in your pocket each month, but they don’t help you own anything. … You are optimizing for consumption, not for wealth building.” (18:03)
- Audience Feedback
- Overwhelming opposition to the 50-year plan: 94% on Instagram, 88% on X (Twitter).
- Most common suggestions: lower interest rates, ban corporations like BlackRock from buying up homes, cut or abolish property and income taxes, mass deportations to free up housing.
- “If you guys have been following me for years, you’ll know we have dog hair like on every surface of my house. …” (21:19, comic relief).
3. Generational Disconnect: Who’s Making Policy?
- Isabel discusses the age gap in Congress, sharing a chart showing that a high percentage of lawmakers are over 70 years old.
- “It is wildly obvious to me this week… that these people have no realm of concept for the reality that young Americans are living in.” (26:23)
- She calls for age limits in Congress, noting many members are old enough to be barred from serving on major corporate boards but are still shaping policy.
- Quote:
- “If you are too old to be allowed to pilot a commercial airplane… you should not be able to sell out the financial future of your constituents…” (29:12)
- Argues older lawmakers are out of touch with issues like rent, tuition, and job prospects facing young people.
4. H1B Visas and the Education-Immigration Debate
- Isabel addresses the White House’s support for increasing H1B visas, highlighting Trump’s statement that the U.S. lacks certain “talent.”
- Trump: “No, you don’t have certain talents and… you can’t take people off an unemployment line and say… we’re going to make missiles.” (34:33)
- Isabel’s response: This is an indictment of the American education system, not American workers; bringing in foreign workers covers over education system failures rather than fixing them.
- She calls for a “completely overhaul” of education rather than importing labor, and cites Matt Walsh’s argument that even if talent were lacking, “All the more reason to stop importing foreigners.” (41:09)
- She distinguishes H1B visas (for skilled workers) from “genius” visas (for ultra-high-skill immigrants like Elon Musk), arguing H1Bs are overused for roles that Americans could fill.
- J.D. Vance’s perspective: Opposes “brain drain” arguments and calls for investing in American talent, reducing legal immigration, and reforming H1B to prioritize American workers.
- “We should not be afraid of putting a moratorium on legal immigration.” (45:03)
- Critique: H1B too often used for cost-cutting rather than attracting geniuses.
5. Conservatism and Political Strategy: Going Forward
- Isabel says the Trump 45 administration did more for young people than any in recent history but senses a new timidity or disconnect in current policy proposals.
- Calls out the right for fearing to “conserve our society” and shying away from bold action.
- “We are afraid of doing the hard thing and we are afraid of saying the hard thing. We are afraid of conserving our society. But why?” (48:12)
- Endorses more open, non-monolithic debate within conservatism and urges leaders to be responsive to the real needs and feedback of ordinary Americans rather than Washington elites.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On the “50-Year Mortgage”
- “You are saving $250 a month… but you are paying $571,000 more in extra interest paid.” (14:48, Isabel)
- “It’s giving you will own nothing and you will be happy. … None of this is giving American Dream at all.” (15:53, Isabel)
- Audience poll: “94% of you say the 50 year mortgage sucks.” (20:37)
- “Ban groups like BlackRock from investing in housing” (20:55, audience member suggestion via Isabel)
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On generational disconnect in Congress
- “It is wildly obvious to me… these people have no realm of concept for the reality that young Americans are living in.” (26:23, Isabel)
- “If you are too old to be allowed to pilot a commercial airplane… you should not be able to sell out the financial future of your constituents…” (29:12, Isabel)
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On H1B Visas and Immigration
- Trump: “No, you don’t. … You don’t have certain talents…” (34:33)
- J.D. Vance: “This idea that American citizens don’t have the talent to do great things, you have to import a foreign class of servants and professors to do these things. I just reject that.” (44:19)
- Matt Walsh (paraphrased): Even if it were true that we lack talent, that’s more reason to train Americans, not import workers. (41:09, cited by Isabel)
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On the Future of Conservative Governance
- “Asking those questions isn’t saying that you’re disloyal or you’re abandoning the cause… it’s because we believe in the cause now more than ever before.” (48:45, Isabel)
- “Conservatism is an opportunity for genuine debate, not just among those in power, but among those who elect those in power.” (49:14, Isabel)
- Isabel closes with Charlie’s blueprint for restoring the “social compact”: “1 mass deportations, 2 stop the H1B scam, 3 dramatically reduce legal immigration, 4 end chain migration… 5 build 10 million homes for Americans… 6 crush the college cartel.” (50:44)
Timestamps for Key Segments
- Intro and Youth Frustration Overview – [00:34]
- Youth Conservative Approval Ratings Discussion – [01:24]
- Why Gen Z Is More Conservative Than People Think – [04:40]
- 50-Year Mortgage Policy and Backlash – [07:48]
- Trump’s Laura Ingraham interview on the mortgage idea – [09:31]
- Isabel’s mortgage math breakdown – [14:48]
- “You will own nothing and be happy” segment – [15:53]
- Catholic Pat’s analysis quoted – [18:03]
- Audience poll and comments – [20:20]
- Congressional Generation Gap – [26:23]
- Foreign Students, H1B Visas & Talent Debate – [33:50]
- Trump and Laura Ingraham on “talent” – [34:25]
- J.D. Vance on American workers and H1B visas – [44:31]
- Conservatism and the Path Forward – [48:12]
- Charlie’s “blueprint” tweet and wrap-up – [50:44]
Conclusion
Isabel Brown’s episode is a passionate deconstruction of why today’s policy proposals on mortgages and immigration are enraging young Americans—particularly young conservatives who feel abandoned by leadership on both sides of the aisle. She delivers hard-hitting critiques, extensive audience feedback, and pointed recommendations for recalibrating conservative governance to truly serve “we the people,” not just entrenched interests in D.C. or Wall Street. The episode is a clarion call for authenticity, courage, and a return to the principles of ownership, generational wealth, and national self-determination.
