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Rabbi Schneider
Let us pray. Abraham believed in God and it was counted to him as righteousness. Dear Lord, we understand that no righteous deeds or religious ceremonies could ever replace pure faith in you. Trust in your promises and redemption are what save us, not works. Keep us humble and grounded in that knowledge so we would not become boastful or arrogant. Just as Abraham believed in you and it was accounted to him as righteousness. We declare belief in the work of Christ. May that faith transform us, empower us to live righteous lives and glorify you daily. In Jesus name.
Congregation
Amen.
Rabbi Schneider
Amen. Thank you for praying with me today. Stay tuned now for another episode of Stories of the Messiah with Rabbi Schneider.
Narrator
Abram's head leaned against the stone and slowly he drifted away to sleep. He closed his eyes and then opened them to see a terrible vision. He sprang up and looked around him. He saw hundreds of thousands of people with scars on their backs, dragging stones through the sand and mud. The voice of God spoke to Abram.
Voice of God
Saying, know this, your offspring will be strangers in a land that is not theirs. They will be slaves there and afflicted for 400 years.
Narrator
Abram looked at the people. They were his descendants, a vast sea of faces, all somehow from him, their image faded and Abram was shown a mighty torrent of water thrashing against an army and his descendants running towards safety.
Voice of God
I will bring judgment on their oppressors and once I have freed them, they will have a great reward.
Narrator
Abram looked around him as millions flooded the valley he called home. They outnumbered the star. Then he saw nothing. It was just him and the Lord. God spoke tenderly to him, saying, as.
Voice of God
For you, Abraham, you will have peace.
Ethan
Welcome to another episode of the Jesus Podcast. I'm your Host, Ethan from Pray.com here to guide you through the Bible's most iconic stories. If this podcast has blessed you thus far, please take a moment to leave a comment and review. Doing so will make sure others discover these life changing stories. And be sure to download the Pray.com app to hear the Bible come to life and make prayer a priority in your daily walk with God. It's my hope that this podcast would showcase the true hero of the Bible, Jesus. As heroic and admirable as Noah, Abraham and Moses are, they are mere images of the true hero who came after them. The redeemer of the world, the Savior of mankind and the author of our faith. So join me now as we immerse ourselves in a cinematic retelling of Genesis chapter 15, where God beckons Abram out of his tent to gaze at the Stars. Within them is a promise. A promise of a greater hero that will come from his lineage. Let's begin.
Voice of God
Fear not, the voice called out.
Narrator
Abram sat up in a sweat. He looked around for the source of the voice, but he could only see Sarai sleeping beside him.
Voice of God
Fear not, Abram, the voice said Again.
Narrator
Abram looked forward. A cool breeze blew in from the entrance of his tent. He stood to his feet and walked outside. God was beckoning him, drawing him out of slumber and into a vision. He heard the voice of God again. This time it seemed he was speaking all around and within him.
Voice of God
Fear not, Abram. I am your shield and your great reward.
Narrator
Abram paused and considered God's declaration as the cool breeze brought the scent of falling leaves through the valley. His bottom lip quivered slightly, both from the cold and from the sadness within his heart. He closed his eyes and replied, oh.
Abram
Lord God, whatever reward you have for me does not matter if I continue childless. My treasure will pass with me and be given to my servant, and my name will die along with me.
Narrator
Abram's doubt was not a denial of God's promise, but rather a desire for God's promise. He wanted it to be true, but the one desire of his heart had eluded him. God's presence surrounded Abram. He was enveloped in the comforting embrace of the Lord Almighty.
Voice of God
O Abram, a son from your flesh will be given to you.
Narrator
God's presence called Abram to walk up a small grassy hill like the gentle nudge of a father.
Voice of God
Look up at the heavens, God whispered.
Narrator
Abram turned his gaze towards the heavens. Casting his gaze upward, his eyes met a cosmic tapestry that stretched infinitely beyond his reach. Unobstructed by clouds or earthly illumination, a myriad of twinkling stars painted the night canvas, each a distant sun, a silent testament to the vastness of the universe. Abram found himself entranced, humbled and insignificant. God spoke to Abram's heart in this state of awe, saying, you, descendants will outnumber the stars.
Voice of God
Through you, all the nations of the world will. Will be blessed.
Narrator
Abram's heart melted. As he surveyed the expanse of heaven. He realized just how incredible it was that the creator of the stars considered him, knew him, and loved him. Abram believed God. He had faith that the Lord would follow through with his promises. That belief, that faith, is what made Abraham righteous. No deed, ceremony or religious gesture would ever replace that pure trust in God's word. Abram looked up at the heavens, tears fogging his vision, and whispered to the.
Abram
Lord, oh, shall these things happen Bring.
Voice of God
Me a heifer, goat, ram, turtledove and.
Narrator
Pigeon, the Lord replied. Abram knew exactly what God was requesting. In his culture, covenants were made through sacrifice. Two people making promises would split animals in half and walk through the middle. To seal a covenant with blood meant that if one were to break that promise, it would mean death. God intended to make an unbreakable vow with Abram. A promise sealed in blood that would endure throughout the generations. Abram took his eyes off the heavens and retreated to his tent. The following day, he gathered the necessary animals, split them in half, then waited. The sun's heavy rays were briefly shaded by the wings of vultures flying overhead. They descended on the carcasses of the animals, but Abraham fought them off. Thrashing and screaming, he scared them away, then sat on a stone and panted. Abram was sure God would show up. He had heard his voice so clearly. Abram leaned back and looked out on the horizon. He waited for God's voice to return. He waited all day, staring, praying, pondering. Faith kept him hopeful. The day drew on, and Abram watched the sun slowly descend over the valley. Hues of orange and crimson splashed the skies, matching the blood, soaking the ground near the slain animals. Abram's head leaned against the stone, and slowly he drifted away to sleep. He closed his eyes, then opened them to see a terrible vision. He sprang up and looked around him. He saw hundreds of thousands of people with scars on their backs, dragging stones through sand and mud. The voice of God spoke to Abram, saying, know this.
Voice of God
Your offspring will be strangers in a land that is not theirs. They will be slaves there and afflicted for 400 years.
Narrator
Abram looked at the people. They were his descendants, a vast sea of faces, all somehow from him their image faded, and Abram was shown a mighty torrent of water thrashing against an army, and his descendants running towards safety.
Voice of God
I will bring judgment on their oppressors. And once I have freed them, they will have a great reward.
Narrator
Abram looked around as millions flooded the valley he called home.
Voice of God
They outnumbered the stars. Then he saw nothing.
Narrator
It was just him and the Lord. God spoke tenderly to him, saying, as.
Voice of God
For you, Abraham, you will have peace.
Narrator
Abram opened his eyes to see something miraculous. God had passed through the sacrifices himself. A smoking fire pot and a flaming torch stood at the other end of them. God had made his promise to Abram and his offspring without him.
Abram
But what of the blood that's required if I break my part of the covenant?
Voice of God
Abram wondered.
Narrator
God was the one to pass through himself. That Means God would be the one to die if Abram and his descendants broke their promise. God would later rename Abram, making him Abraham, a father of nations. He said that through his seed all the nations would be blessed. A son from his lineage would rise to redeem and bless the world. Abraham eagerly awaited that time. He believed in the future redemption. He hoped for that future blessing. And one day he would meet the promised Son in eternity.
Ethan
What a moving moment between God and Abram. Could you feel the intimacy between them? Could you sense Abram's doubt melting away under the warm embrace of his heavenly father? It makes sense that Abram would be doubtful of God's promises. Think about it. He was old and had tried to have children for years. He feared all his blessings wouldn't be shared with his descendants. But God comforted Abram and made a promise that his offspring would outnumber the stars in the sky. They would multiply, suffer from slavery, be rescued, and prosper in the land promised to them. And through them, a greater hero would come. Abram took all of this in and had faith in God. That faith was accounted to him as righteousness. It wasn't any good deeds, holy exploits or obedience that made him righteous. It was his belief in the promises of God. To seal the promise he made to Abram, God made a covenant. He had Abram prepare sacrifices for them to walk through together. These type of contracts were weighty back then. That's why God walked through the sacrifice on his own. He was going to bear sole responsibility for the promise. If Abram or any of his descendants broke the covenant, God would pay the penalty, not them. He would eventually do that through the sacrifice of Jesus. Abram was eventually renamed Abraham. And God promised that all the nations would be blessed one day through his seed. Abraham looked forward to that time. He hoped in God and believed his promised descendant would save the world. He knew his prophesied son would be greater than him. Mightier. Now let's fast forward to when Abraham's descendants are great in number. They have an established culture and way of life. They look back at Abraham as the ultimate example of righteousness. But they seem to have forgotten that someone greater than him was supposed to come.
Jewish Leader
Just admit it.
Narrator
One of the scribes shouted from a group of Jewish leaders.
Jewish Leader
You are a Samaritan dog and are possessed by a demon.
Narrator
The crowd stirred, uncomfortable with the accusation. Jesus remained calm under scrutiny. His eyes pierced through his accusers. He exhaled and shook his head.
Congregation
I do not have a demon, he.
Narrator
Replied matter of factly.
Congregation
I honor My father, Father in all things. Yet you stand here and dishonor me. I won't fret over this, though, for I do not seek my own glory. There's only one who seeks my glory, and he is the ultimate judge between you and me.
Narrator
He looked away from the group of accusers, turned to the crowd and said.
Congregation
Truly, truly, I say to you, if anyone keeps my words, he will never see death.
Narrator
A group of scribes and Pharisees stirred. Their holy veneer was slowly eroding, giving way to a more perturbed and petty countenance. Now we are sure that you have a demon. They shouted. They began to spit on the floor and mock him.
Jewish Leader
Abraham died, as did all the prophets. Yet you say, whoever keeps your word will never taste death. Who do you think you are? You think you're greater than Abraham?
Narrator
The Jews postured to threaten Jesus, but he remained unperturbed by their presence. Jesus stepped towards them, and they took a few paces back. As he approached.
Congregation
I would tell you again, I do not aim to give myself glory. If I did, it would mean nothing. It is my Father who glorifies me. Your God? But you don't know him, do you?
Ethan
I know him.
Congregation
And your father, Abraham knew him. He rejoiced that one day he would get to see me. He had faith in me and was filled with joy.
Jewish Leader
Ridiculous.
Narrator
They shouted.
Congregation
You're not even 50 years old yet.
Jewish Leader
You claim to have seen Abraham.
Narrator
Jesus gentle countenance shifted slightly. At that moment. It was as if the air around him became thick with glory. Jesus spoke, his voice resounding with calm authority.
Congregation
I was before Abraham. Before Abraham was the great I am.
Narrator
Those were the words they had been waiting for. Jesus had claimed to be God himself. With zealous rage, the Jews ran to retrieve stones. They wanted to end Jesus life. Jealous and indignant, they turned with rocks to hurl at Jesus. But he had vanished. He had escaped from the tower just in time. One day, the Jewish leaders would successfully execute Jesus. But they would do so on his timing, not theirs. He would use death as a tool to fulfill the promise made to Abraham long ago. He would be the seed that sprung up from the line of Abraham to bless every nation.
Ethan
Abraham indeed became the father of a great nation. God's promise to Abraham was kept, and the children of Israel were preserved through slavery, wilderness, war, oppression and pride. Despite themselves, God was faithful. Through them, the great hero of heaven came. But not everyone recognized him as the Messiah. Right away, Jesus was continually challenged about his identity. But we know now that he is the promised Redeemer, the seed from Abraham that would bless every nation. In his discourse with the religious leaders, he declared that he was there before Abraham. He said, before Abraham was the great I am. Before Abraham was the great, I am. What does that mean? That means that Jesus pre existed Abraham and life itself. He was the one who spoke life and light into existence. He was the one who fashioned man from the dust and crafted the heavens and the earth. Jesus was God himself. In this way, Jesus is more than just a patriarch of faith or a member of a great lineage. He is God. He's not just a man of faith. He is the one we put our faith in. Through Jesus, the lineage of Abraham was extended beyond just a bloodline. He unified different nations, cultures and creeds under the banner of faith into a nation of faith. Under the banner of faith into a nation of faith. The Church. Because of all this and more, Jesus is greater than Abraham. Be sure to join us next time as we explore another patriarch in the lineage of Abraham. This man is not known for his courage or strength. In fact, he willingly submitted himself to be killed by his own father. Join us next episode to discover why Jesus is the greater Isaac. This is an I Heart podcast.
The Jesus Podcast: Episode Summary – "Jesus Is The Greater Abraham"
Release Date: July 22, 2025
In the episode titled "Jesus Is The Greater Abraham," hosted by Ethan from Pray.com, listeners embark on a profound exploration of the biblical narrative surrounding Abraham ( originally Abram) and its profound connection to Jesus Christ. This episode masterfully blends storytelling with theological insights, presenting Abraham's faith journey and drawing parallels to the life and mission of Jesus, underscoring the latter's supremacy and divine nature.
Opening Prayer and Setting the Scene (00:00 – 01:09) The episode begins with Rabbi Schneider leading a heartfelt prayer emphasizing faith over righteous deeds. He states:
"Abraham believed in God and it was counted to him as righteousness... We declare belief in the work of Christ. May that faith transform us..." [00:00]
This prayer sets the thematic foundation—faith as the cornerstone of righteousness.
Abram's Vision of Suffering and Promise (01:09 – 02:25) The narrative transitions to Abram asleep, foreseeing a grim future where his descendants endure slavery and oppression:
"Know this, your offspring will be strangers in a land that is not theirs. They will be slaves there and afflicted for 400 years." [01:33]
Abram witnesses the suffering of his descendants but also sees a divine intervention that promises their eventual deliverance and a great reward.
Divine Assurance and Abram's Doubt (02:25 – 05:14) God comforts Abram, assuring him of peace:
"For you, Abraham, you will have peace." [02:25]
Abram voices his fears about being childless and his legacy:
"Lord God, whatever reward you have for me does not matter if I continue childless..." [04:44]
God responds by promising a son from his lineage, reinforcing the covenant.
The Covenant Ritual and Vision of Thousands (05:25 – 10:08) God commands Abram to gaze at the stars, illustrating the vast number of his future descendants:
"Through you, all the nations of the world will be blessed." [06:06]
Abram commits to the covenant through the traditional sacrifice ritual, symbolizing an unbreakable promise. Later, Abram experiences a terrifying vision of his descendants' suffering but is reassured of God's ultimate plan.
God's Sacrifice and the Foreshadowing of Jesus (10:08 – 10:52) Abram questions the consequences of breaking the covenant:
"But what of the blood that's required if I break my part of the covenant?" [10:02]
God answers by prefiguring His own sacrificial role:
"God was the one to pass through himself... He would eventually do that through the sacrifice of Jesus." [10:10]
This segment foreshadows the New Testament narrative of Jesus as the ultimate covenant-keeper through His sacrifice.
Confrontation with Jewish Leaders (13:15 – 14:19) The podcast transitions to a dramatized account of Jesus confronting Jewish leaders who accuse Him of being possessed:
"I do not have a demon, he." [13:36]
Jesus responds with authority, emphasizing His connection to the Father and His mission.
Jesus' Profound Declaration (15:22 – 15:28) In a pivotal moment, Jesus makes a profound declaration of His divinity:
"I was before Abraham. Before Abraham was, I am." [15:22]
This statement not only asserts His pre-existence but also His divine nature, echoing the God's declaration in Exodus ("I AM WHO I AM").
Reaction of the Accusers and Jesus' Escape (15:28 – 15:58) Upon hearing Jesus' declaration, the accusers attempt to stone Him, but Jesus miraculously escapes, underscoring His divine protection and the inevitability of His mission.
Ethan's Theological Insights (16:14) Ethan delves into the theological significance of the episode, highlighting:
Abraham's Faith: Abraham's belief in God's promises was accounted to him as righteousness, not his deeds.
Jesus' Pre-existence and Divinity: Jesus pre-existed Abraham, being the source of life and creation, affirming His divine status.
Fulfillment of the Covenant: Jesus embodies the promised seed from Abraham, fulfilling the covenant through His life, death, and resurrection.
Jesus' Supremacy: Emphasizing that Jesus is not just a patriarch but God Himself, He unifies various nations and cultures into a new faith community—the Church.
Ethan concludes by asserting that Jesus surpasses Abraham in both status and mission, being the true Redeemer and foundation of faith.
The episode wraps up by reinforcing the central theme that Jesus is the greater Abraham, the promised Redeemer whose life and sacrifice fulfill God's covenant with Abraham. Ethan invites listeners to continue their journey of faith by tuning into the next episode, which will explore another patriarch, Isaac, drawing further connections to Jesus' role in salvation history.
Rabbi Schneider's Opening Prayer:
"Abraham believed in God and it was counted to him as righteousness..." [00:00]
Abram's Expression of Doubt:
"Lord God, whatever reward you have for me does not matter if I continue childless..." [04:44]
Jesus' Declaration of Divinity:
"I was before Abraham. Before Abraham was, I am." [15:22]
Faith Over Works: Emphasizing that true righteousness comes from unwavering faith in God's promises rather than mere deeds or rituals.
Divine Assurance: God's steadfast promises provide comfort and purpose, even amidst uncertainty and suffering.
Covenant and Sacrifice: The episode highlights the gravity of God's covenants, sealed through sacrifice, prefiguring Jesus' ultimate sacrifice.
Jesus' Supremacy: Drawing a direct line from Abraham to Jesus, the podcast underscores Jesus' divine nature and His fulfillment of the covenant promises.
Continuity of God's Plan: The narrative illustrates the consistency of God's plan from the Old Testament patriarchs to the New Testament fulfillment in Jesus.
"Jesus Is The Greater Abraham" offers a compelling narrative that bridges the Old and New Testaments, portraying Jesus as the culmination of God's promises to Abraham. Through vivid storytelling and insightful theological commentary, the episode invites listeners to deepen their understanding of faith, covenant, and the overarching narrative of redemption.
Join the next episode of The Jesus Podcast to continue exploring the profound connections between biblical patriarchs and the life of Jesus Christ.