Jim Acosta Show with Glenn Kirschner. Don’t forget your tickets to DC town hall Monday

Summary

Summary of "The Jim Acosta Show" Featuring Glenn Kirschner

Episode Title: Jim Acosta Show with Glenn Kirschner. Don’t forget your tickets to DC town hall Monday
Release Date: May 30, 2025
Host: Jim Acosta
Guest: Glenn Kirschner

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Introduction

In this fervent episode of The Jim Acosta Show, host Jim Acosta welcomes esteemed Justice Warrior Glenn Kirschner for a robust discussion on the pressing legal and political issues facing the United States. The episode, released on May 30, 2025, centers around the alarming trends of corruption within governmental institutions, focusing particularly on former President Donald Trump's controversial pardons and attacks on the judicial system.

The Issue of Corrupt Pardons

Jim Acosta opens the conversation by highlighting the surge in what he describes as "ridiculously corrupt pardons" issued by Donald Trump. He references a statement by Mike Johnson, emphasizing that the visibility of these actions ("broad daylight") does not legitimize them ([00:00]).

Glenn Kirschner responds with a compelling analogy: "When people rob banks in broad daylight, guess what, it's still a bank robbery" ([00:46]). He elaborates on the pervasive crime and corruption, suggesting that the public's overwhelming exposure to such malfeasance leads to disengagement rather than action. Kirschner draws parallels to his experiences with RICO cases, emphasizing the importance of jurors not "throwing up their hands" but remaining steadfast in holding perpetrators accountable ([01:30]).

Case Study: Paul Walsack Pardoned

A significant portion of the discussion centers on the pardon of Paul Walsack. Jim Acosta identifies Walsack as a key example of Trump’s questionable pardons, noting his mother’s substantial donation to a fundraiser ([03:34]).

Glenn Kirschner delves into the specifics of Walsack's crimes—embezzling Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid funds to finance a lavish lifestyle, including private jets and a $2 million yacht ([04:07]). He condemns Trump's action, stating, "Donald Trump is forever pledging things like, I will protect Social Security. Okay, sport, let's put that to the test" ([04:06]). Kirschner criticizes the pardon's impact, arguing it undermines Trump's promises and the rule of law ([05:19]).

Trump's Assault on the Judicial System

The conversation shifts to Trump's antagonistic relationship with the judiciary. Jim Acosta points out the irony of Trump criticizing the judicial system despite benefiting from favorable Supreme Court decisions ([07:10]).

Glenn Kirschner provides a stark analysis, revealing that Trump’s appointed judges are now ruling against him at an alarming rate of 96% ([08:16]). He attributes this to "third rate DOJ lawyers" who are unable to mount effective defenses for Trump, leading to unsustainable legal battles ([08:30]). Kirschner predicts that Trump's continuous attacks on figures like Leonard Leo will alienate his allies and erode his support base ([10:34]).

The Path Forward and Upcoming DC Town Hall

As the discussion progresses, Jim Acosta emphasizes the importance of civic engagement and announces an upcoming live town hall in Washington, D.C. at the Lincoln Theater. He highlights the participation of key figures such as Representative Jasmine Crockett, Rosie O'Donnell, Olivia Troy, Mike Fanone, and other notable individuals who have stood against Trump’s administration ([14:00]).

Glenn Kirschner underscores the necessity of communal resistance and optimism, asserting, "we have to engage. We have to give people reason to feel that they are part of a community that is fighting like hell or we won't have a country anymore" ([15:22]). He expresses confidence that Trump’s strategies are unsustainable and predicts his eventual downfall ([16:00]).

Addressing the Broader Impact

Jim Acosta broadens the conversation by discussing the nationwide concern over authoritarianism, referencing recent statements by Senator Joni Ernst and the strategic importance of Medicaid as a public health safety net ([17:00]). He underscores that the fight against corruption and authoritarianism transcends political boundaries, resonating even in traditionally red states like Texas ([17:20]).

Conclusion

In wrapping up, Jim Acosta reiterates the critical nature of the current political climate, urging listeners to remain vigilant and engaged. He passionately advocates against giving up on truth, democracy, or America, attributing hope to the collective efforts of individuals committed to fighting corruption and authoritarianism ([22:00]).

Glenn Kirschner echoes this sentiment, emphasizing the importance of ongoing engagement and the belief that democratic institutions will ultimately prevail over Trump's unsustainable tactics ([16:35]).

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Notable Quotes

• Glenn Kirschner ([00:46]): "When people rob banks in broad daylight, guess what, it's still a bank robbery."

• Glenn Kirschner ([04:07]): "Donald Trump is forever pledging things like, I will protect Social Security. Okay, sport, let's put that to the test."

• Glenn Kirschner ([08:16]): "Trump’s appointed judges are now ruling against him at an alarming rate of 96%."

• Glenn Kirschner ([15:22]): "We have to engage. We have to give people reason to feel that they are part of a community that is fighting like hell or we won't have a country anymore."

• Jim Acosta ([22:00]): "We are in a critical moment in this country right now. What are you going to do now? You absolutely, positively cannot give up at this point."

Upcoming Events

• Live Town Hall in Washington, D.C.: Scheduled for Monday at the Lincoln Theater, featuring speeches from federal workers, Jasmine Crockett, Rosie O'Donnell, Olivia Troy, Miles Taylor, and other key figures.

• Key Topics: Federal corruption, Trump's misuse of pardons, defense of Social Security and healthcare, and strategies for democratic resistance.

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This episode of The Jim Acosta Show serves as a clarion call to listeners, urging active participation in safeguarding democracy against perceived authoritarian threats. Through incisive dialogue and expert analysis, Acosta and Kirschner present a compelling narrative on the state of American politics and the imperative to uphold the rule of law.

Transcript

[Jim Acosta]

Welcome everybody, to the Jim Acosta show. It is Friday, as you can see, Justice Warrior Glenn Kirschner is with us. Glenn, great to see you as always. It's been too long. We should have been doing this a lot more frequently. But I'm happy to say that you're going to be at the live town hall in D.C. at the Lincoln Theater on Monday. And we've got a lot of legal news to cover. Honestly, I mean, this is like a fire hose of corruption that we're drinking from. When it comes to Donald Trump, the pardons, the way he's going off on Leonard Leo, I mean, let's just dive right into it, I guess. First of all, I mean, your sense of what we're seeing with these ridiculously corrupt pardons, I mean, as Mike Johnson says, he does it out in broad daylight. That does not make it right.

[Glenn Kirschner]

When people rob banks in broad daylight, guess what, it's still a bank robbery. You know, and I think part of the problem here, Jim, is, is there is so much crime, corruption, abuse of office, abuse of power pretty much daily at this point. And, and that really is the point and it is the goal. And I think what we see people doing is saying, you know, there's, there's just so much corruption that I am going to turn away. I can't have an immediate impact. And so why should I engage? I, you know, I would analogize to when we would charge criminal defendants with 100 counts or 120 counts, like in some of the RICO cases I tried in D.C. you could almost see the jurors after your first couple of weeks of what would be a six month trial, seeing the prosecution prove crime after crime after crime after crime, they would tend to throw up their hands, they'd begin to sit back. But they didn't throw up their hands because they felt like their participation was, was feudal. They threw up their hands because they were like, listen, we're convinced these, you know, RICO gang members committed tons and tons and tons of crime. And so when they would go back to deliberate on all of this crime, they had the, the very real ability to impact and bring consequences to the evidence they saw. So if there was any throwing up the hands, they threw up their hands and they said, listen, they're guilty of everything because we've seen evidence that they committed all these crimes. So if you, if you look at the American people, like the jury, they are seeing the evidence that Donald Trump is committing all of these crimes. However, they don't have the present ability to place any kind of consequences on Donald Trump for the crimes we all see him committing. So I think that's why instead of engaging, they tend to disengage. They turn away. Because, you know what? We can talk about the midterms all day long, Jim, and we do because they're important. But even if we vote the bums out during the midterm elections, that doesn't directly put any consequences squarely on Donald Trump's shoulders. It. It is one step in the direction, hopefully, of consequences. But that feels like weak tea when it comes to holding him accountable for the crimes and he's committed. So I think part of our job should be we have to focus in on one thing, and we have to, you know, beat it until it's dead and get the people to understand what it really means. And so when I look at all these horrific pardons that Donald Trump recently granted, and historically, the horrific pardons he has granted, there's one in particular I want to take up. It's this Paul Walsack fellow, right? Health care.

[Jim Acosta]

He's the one that has the mother. She donated a million bucks at this candlelight dinner fundraiser.

[Glenn Kirschner]

Just.

[Jim Acosta]

It's so tacky that it also happens to be probably criminal.

[Glenn Kirschner]

It sure smells criminal. But even, even beyond that, we can get to the, you know, mother paying a million dollars in the weeks before Trump pardons this guy. But, you know, Donald Trump is forever pledging things like, I will protect Social Security. Okay, sport, let's put that to the test. What did you do with respect to Paul Walzack? Well, here's what you did.

[Jim Acosta]

Yeah.

[Glenn Kirschner]

This guy was a health care industry type where. Florida. Shocking. And what he was doing, Florida man was taking Social Security, taking Medicare, taking Medicaid out of his salary, out of the payments he was making to nurses and health care employees. And what was he doing with it? Not delivering it to the United States government as he was required by law to do. He is, you know, lavishing himself with private jets. He's buying himself a $2 million yacht. He's going on expensive spending sprees. And here's the thing.

[Jim Acosta]

Yeah.

[Glenn Kirschner]

The blue. The blue. The police. And the police includes all of federal and local law enforcement agencies, including the FBI, is the Blue, the irs, Criminal Tax Division, the investigators, the police for the ir. That's the blue. Right. So. So the blue investigated these crimes for years, and there was enough evidence not only to indict this character, Paul Walzack, for all kinds of felony fraud crimes, tax evasion crimes, stealing the government's money, but he Pleaded guilty. He swore.

[Jim Acosta]

He pleaded guilty. That's right.

[Glenn Kirschner]

Swore under oath. Because when you plead guilty in court, Jim, you're placed under oath by the judge, and you have to swear figuratively on a dart.

[Jim Acosta]

Well, just like a lot of these January 6th criminals, too, by the way, who pleaded guilty. But anyway.

[Glenn Kirschner]

Exactly. So he goes in, he commits crimes, he pleads guilty, he's sentenced to prison, and he has to pay back $4.4 million in restitution to the federal government for, among other things, the Social Security money he stole. The judge ordered him to pay $4.4 million in restitution. Then Paul Walzack's mommy goes to one of Donald Trump's golf clubs, gives him a million dollars, and a couple of weeks later, right before he is set to report to the Federal Bureau of Prisons to begin serving his sentence, Donald Trump pardons him. And, Jim, he doesn't only pardon him from his jail term. He says, and I am killing the court order that requires you to pay back the 4.4 million crazy that you owe the federal government in Social Security. So let's. Okay, let's put it to the test. Protecting Social Security, my ass. Backing the blue. My ass. The blue is the one that investigated and helped charge, bring charges in this case. I mean, Donald Trump, he lies and he lies and he lies and he disrespects everybody and everything in the process. And yet this is just. Oh, it's just another one of those pardons he gave. No. Because it puts the lies to so much of what he pledges in pardon and promises.

[Jim Acosta]

And, Glenn, that's why it's so great that we're speaking with you today, because, I mean, you're so well versed in all of these issues. And the way, I mean, Trump has gone after the judicial system in America, like Freddy Krueger, I mean, and you just don't. At some point, you think, okay, it's over. The bad guy is dead, and he keeps going, going. And, I mean, you would think that Donald Trump would have a much more positive attitude when it comes to our system of justice in this country, and that he's had pretty favorable treatment over at the Supreme Court. I mean, just today, the Supreme Court said, yes, you can go away and, and keep removing these, these migrants with protective status in this country. He gets these favorable decisions from the Supreme Court. I mean, my God, you know, John Roberts, the Chief justice, and the immunity decision and so on. But yet, but yet. Yesterday, Trump went after Leonard Leo, he of the Federalist Society, he of the Sort of the dark shadows world of Washington that basically recommended a lot of these Supreme Court justices, recommends a lot of these judicial nominees. Trump goes after him in a lengthy social media post last night, calls him a real sleazebag. What did you make of that? I mean, it says to me that he is, that Trump is pissed that Leonard Leo recommended some of these justices on the Supreme Court who have been defying him from time to time.

[Glenn Kirschner]

Not only justices on the Supreme Court, federal court, judges at all levels, trial courts, appeals court, and the Trump judges are ruling against Donald Trump as much as any other judges. And mind you, some of the judges with the most scathing decisions and opinions have been appointed by Ronald Reagan, George H.W. bush, George W. Bush, I mean, and Donald Trump is losing in court. I think it's a 96% loss rate I saw reported today. You know, ordinarily I was. That's not good. In fact, it's almost the exact opposite of what federal prosecutors tend to brag. I never brag. I don't like to hear this. They say we win 99% of our cases. Well, first of all, that tells me that y' all aren't taking the really tough cases to trial because you should win 99% of the cases. I never did when I was trying cases. But now they're losing 96% of the cases. One, they have really third rate DOJ lawyers representing Donald, representing Donald Trump in court. And judges are not only calling them out and saying, the arguments that you're presenting to me not only don't hold water factually, legally, or constitutionally, but you're making them in bad faith that will get you a bar referral as a lawyer, and that can be the death of the career of a DOJ lawyer. So I actually think they're going to reach the point of diminishing returns when fewer and fewer DOJ lawyers are willing to go in and fall on the sword making bogus arguments for Donald Trump.

[Jim Acosta]

But here's my question about this, Glenn, in that, I mean, shouldn't Leonard Leo be Donald Trump's best friend? I mean, shouldn't Donald Trump be dropping like a gazillion dollars in tacky Trump meme coin in his lap based on the fact that he helped stock the Supreme Court with MAGA justices who gave Donald Trump the immunity decision that basically got his ass out of hot water so he went to the White House instead of to prison? I mean, Leonard Leo should be like, you know, in the Oval Office with him instead of Elon Musk. That's how tight those two guys should be. So this is where I don't get it. And it's partly because, as I've said before, he's the toddler in chief. I mean, he just, you know, anything that gets under his skin, he comes unglued.

[Glenn Kirschner]

Yeah, it's a great point, Jim, but I think one, one of the things that Donald Trump suffers from is, you know, there's no such thing as enough for a narcissist. And now that the judges that he appointed are ruling against him, him, he, Donald Trump certainly can't take responsibility for making a bad judicial pick. Even though it was his pick to make, it was only recommended to him by Leonard Leo and the Federalist Society. He has to blame somebody else. So what does he do? He bites the hand that feeds him judges. That is a miscalculation because. Oh, yeah, I do believe he is alienating people like Leonard Leo in the Federalist Society. Some of the people who have perhaps been willing to stick with him the longest because they thought there was something in it for them. Now the only thing in it for them they are realizing is these horrific attacks. That was really a vicious attack in Donald Trump's post about Leonard Leo and by extension the Federalist Society. So, you know, this is good. I like seeing this because this shows Donald Trump's desperation, and I believe it will result in him losing more allies, not gaining more support.

[Jim Acosta]

Well, and here's my question. I mean, the other question that we're drinking from a corruption fire hose these days with this corrupt authoritarian dictator wannabe in the White House. But I mean, one of the questions that I do these things rise to the level of illegality, because it seems to me a lot of what he is doing probably crosses that threshold. But because of the immunity decision, can you even look forward to the day when he leaves the Oval Office? If he leaves the Oval Office and might he face justice at that point? I'm very sort of gloom and doom on that. On that, on that possibility, Glenn. I just don't, I don't know if I see that happening. Although he's racked it up. I mean, if he could be impeached for tackiness, he would, he would have been impeached and convicted a long time ago. But, you know, it just seems to me that this guy knows how to play the system like a fiddle.

[Glenn Kirschner]

And, you know, I'm typically an optimist. I'm a rule of law guy, and I will never say never when it comes to holding folk a co accountable for their crime. So, you know, trying to answer your question, I share your concern and your skepticism and frankly, my fear that he will not be held accountable for some of these crimes. But if we kind of break it down, first of all, he won't be held accountable in the short term because he has his consularia over at the Department of Justice, Pam Bondi. So she's not.

[Jim Acosta]

Which is a fancy term for Pam Bondi, but yeah, it's synonymous at this point.

[Glenn Kirschner]

That's the.

[Jim Acosta]

Denotes some sophistication there.

[Glenn Kirschner]

Yeah, so. So he's not going to be held accountable in the short term. In the long term, yes, we have the presidential immunity opinion to contend with. But if he does things that are not part of his core constitutional functions and are otherwise outside the scope of his official presidential duties, Jack Smith was prepared to litigate that very point. And Jim, I predict he would have won. So never say I agree. Never say it can happen. Will it happen? I don't know, but it can happen. The other real outlier is at some point the Supreme Court may realize they've created this Frankenstein monster of a president. They have the ability anytime they want to revisit not only the wisdom of their presidential immunity ruling, but the scope of their presidential immunity ruling. And they might do it the way he is attacking all of the federal judiciary now, because the Supreme Court justices will not take kindly to that.

[Jim Acosta]

Yeah. Well, this is why I'm so happy that you're going to be at the town hall on Monday night, because we've got so much to talk about, as I was saying at the, at the top of the program, but more people are tuning in. Representative Jasmine Crockett of Texas, who's a rising star in the Democratic Party, she has said she's going to be joining us. Donald Trump's bff, Rosie o' Donnell, is going to be there. She's going to join us live from Dublin. She left the country because she was so fed up with things. And there are so many others. Olivia Troy, Mike Fanone, a lot of the January 6th police officers. We're going to be recognizing their bravery and courage. I know you've done that as well. You have plans to do that as well in the future. And, you know, I mean, this is one of those nights where I just feel like people need to come together. I know you've done events like this as well and just feel like they belong to something because, Glenn, don't you. I mean, you hear this from folks all the time. People are so disheartened. They're so disappointed. They're so outraged. And what we're seeing every day, I mean, look at Elon Musk in the Oval Office early. And it's just the way that they're bullshitting everybody about how everything is just fine and dandy between Trump and Elon Musk. They're two cock fighting chickens in the same potato sack. That's why this thing is ending, folks, honestly. And I just think people need to hear it straight for once. Not from the corporate media, but from guys like you and me.

[Glenn Kirschner]

And we have to give people reason to engage, not disengage. The disengaging part feels almost inevitable, given as we were talking about. It doesn't feel like there's anything we can do right now in the moment to put consequences where they need to be on Donald Trump and company. But, okay, the immediacy of consequences is not there. It's going to be a slow build. And the thing is, we have to engage. We have to give people reason to feel that they are part of a community that is fighting like hell or we won't have a country anymore. I've heard that said before. And, and that is part of the reason we do these events. You know, we've got the no Kings Day rally out here in Northern Virginia. I spoke at the last two rallies out here. I'm going to be speaking at this one. And I think we have to encourage everybody to participate, to get out, to stand up, to, you know, resist this. Because, Jim, I swear, I swear I believe we are going to win in the end. What Donald Trump is doing is not sustainable. He's losing support, not gaining support. It's not sustainable. I don't know how it ends. And I hope it doesn't end really badly with him calling out the military to try to remain in power, but it's not sustainable.

[Jim Acosta]

You're right. And when, when Elon Musk is hitting the bricks, when he is, when he is leaving the government and saying, oh, this big beautiful bill is not that great, you know, kicking Trump in the groin on the way out. You know, Trump must have just loved that when that happened. And so he's out the door. When you have the, when you have the traders on Wall street coming up with the phrase taco to explain how they still try to make money on Wall street with all of Trump's nuttiness with these tariffs. I agree with you. And I've been saying this to this audience and other audiences. I do think this is unsustainable and that perhaps we're just waiting for the implosion of the Death Star. Maybe we're in we're not in Star Wars. We're in Return of the Jedi. And, you know, they built a bigger and better Death Star and the implosion is going to be even bigger with better special effects. I don't know. We'll see. But I'm looking forward to seeing you on, on Monday night. It's been too long and it's great to catch up. It's great to see you.

[Glenn Kirschner]

Good seeing you, Jim. I look forward to Monday night.

[Jim Acosta]

All right. Thanks, Glenn. Thanks a lot. All right, you as well. I I'm making this a slightly abbreviated version of the Jim Acosta show on this Friday because in about 10 minutes from now, I'm going to be jumping on with the Midas Touch guys. So if you've enjoyed this conversation and you want to keep watching me, jump over to the Midas touch guys in about 10 minutes from now, I'll be on with them. It should be a lot of fun. But in the meantime, I do want to just emphasize to everybody and I wrote a substack about this just last night. Listen, we're in a critical moment in this country right now. As Glenn was saying just a few moments ago, we've got a fight on our hands and there may be a lot of you out there who think the fight is over. Trump won. What are you going to do now? You absolutely, positively cannot give up at this point. You absolutely, positively can't. What are we going to give up on the truth? We're going to give up on democracy? We're going to give up on America? No. I, I, I say hell no. I, I say no, thank you. And it's because of people like Glenn, because of people like Olivia Troy, because of people like Mike Fanon, Harry Dunn, Miles Taylor, Tara Set Meyer, Aaron Parnas, Rosie o' Donnell and Jasmine Crockett? Because of people like that who are committed to the fight, to fighting the good fight, I believe that this democracy is still going to stand. I believe that this republic is not going to fall. And I'm in Dallas right now. I will tell you, I'm not this is not the typical set that you usually see me in. I'm in a hotel room in Dallas right now. I'm going to be speaking to the Hispanic DFW communicators of this area. It's a press and media and PR group here in Dallas. And I will tell you, I talked to some of the folks leading up to this and it's not just Washington. You go outside of Washington. I like to go outside the Beltway because I want to hear what people are saying outside the Beltway. People are just as worried, they're just as concerned, they're just as scared. Even in red states like Texas. And keep in mind Dallas, places like Houston, they can be very blue. But even in red states like Texas, they don't want a king. They don't want a dictator. They don't want a tyrant. They don't want Elon Musk and whatever he's been on making decisions that affect our daily lives. And so they don't want the corrupt authoritarianism. They don't want, you know, Trump selling pardons to the highest bidder. And it is about not giving up. It is about not giving in. As I said. How many months ago has it been now? Four months ago? Now, don't give in to the lies. Don't give in to the fear. Hold on to the truth and hope. And that's going to be the message when we have this town hall in D.C. on Monday at the Lincoln Theater. If you have a chance to get tickets, go out and get them. We're going to have federal workers there talking about what they've been going through. And listen, I spoke to one of the representatives for the Federal Employees Union yesterday about this. And you know, one of the nice people who are going to be there, this nice lady who worked as a federal worker, she's now getting by on food stamps. And we're going to hear from her on Monday night. We're going to hear from Liz Oyer, who used to work at the pardons office at the Department of Justice. She's been a guest on my program. She's going to speak a little bit there and talk about what she's observed with Trump selling these pardons off to people in just a grotesque way, just to remind people that this is not what America is supposed to be like. And what I'm really happy about, I'm happy about all those things and all those people. I'm really excited that Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett of Texas, by the way, is going to be our big headliner for this town hall. I'm so excited about that because she has shown in this moment people saying, oh, what's going on with the Democrats? Or oh, you know, people just don't know how to fight back anymore. Jasmine Crockett has figured out how to fight back and get attention for it. And it's not just about getting attention. It's about getting results and she's already vying to become the ranking Democrat on the House Oversight Committee. She is becoming a star in the Democratic Party. And people listen to what she has to say when she speaks, people listen. And so you're going to hear some, I think, some very interesting comments from here, from her, I should say, some fun comments from Rosie o' Donnell. She always knows how to get Trump's goat. She always knows. And I suspect we're going to hear that as well. And the rest of the gang is going to be there and it's just going to be so exciting. Miles Taylor's going to be there, despite everything that's been happening with him. You know, Trump going after him in the way that he, he did a couple of weeks ago, saying that the Department of Justice should go after Miles Taylor. Miles is going to speak up. He's not afraid. He's going to speak up like everybody else at this town hall. And it's going to be one of those moments where people are just going to have their voices heard. And this is what needs to happen. So the doors are going to open up at 6:30. We're going to get started about 7:00. And I see somebody saying, who, who's going to be there? Jasmine Crockett, Rosie o' Donnell, Mike Fone, Harry Dunn, Tara Setm, Olivia Troy, Miles Taylor, Aaron Parnas, Glenn Kirschner is going to be there as well. We're going to have a great lineup. We're going to try to cram it all in there as best as we can. And you don't want to miss it. We, we will show this later on. But I'm, I'm a little reluctant to offer too many details on that because I want people to show up and see this live and in person. Somebody just mentioned Joanie Ernst. I saw that. Yeah. A couple of housekeeping items before we go. My goodness. Did you see, I'll just close on that. Did you see what Joni Ernst said at her town hall? She was responding to an attendee that who yelled that the GOP cuts to Medicaid would cost lives. And you know, this is according to NBC News. She said, quote, people are not well. We're all going to die. So for heaven's sakes, she said in response to those questions, we're all going to die. The reason why you have health care is so you don't die sooner rather than later. The idea is to postpone death. That is why you have health care. And as I had this conversation with the governor of Colorado, Jared Polis the other day, the very smart comment that he made is don't just think of Medicaid as healthcare for the poor, think of it as healthcare that keeps costs down for the rest of us. Remember, when people, when millions of Americans don't have health care, additional Americans don't have health care, who pays for it? Who pays for doesn't go on a Trump meme coin. We all pay for it. And so it's a very important point. Taco hats. Somebody just said taco hats for everybody on stage. My buddy Olivia Troy is working on that as we speak. She is working on the taco hats as we speak. So anyway, this is an abbreviated edition of the Jim Acosta Show. I'm going to hop off if you want to keep hearing from me. I'm going to go get a quick drink of water. I'm going to hop on with the Midas touch guys. I'll be on with them in a few minutes. But in the meantime, great to see all of you this Friday. Friday, have a great weekend. See you on Monday at the live Town hall, the Lincoln theater in Washington, D.C. make sure you go and see it. Get your tickets now. And still reporting. I'm not in Washington this evening. I'm in big D. I'm in Dallas. Still reporting, though. I'm Jim Acosta. Have a good evening, everybody. Bye.

[Glenn Kirschner]

Bye.