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Congressman Suha Subramaniam
FOREIGN.
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Jim Acosta
Welcome to the Jim Acosta Show. It's another day that ends in Y and the MAGA Trump shutdown here in Washington. And guess what, folks. Attention all air travelers. Your flight plans could be in jeopardy as the federal government is slashing traffic at major airports, all due to the shutdown. I'm going to talk about this in just a few moments with my pal Molly John Fast. We've got lots of politics to cover with Molly. A little later in the program, I'm going to be interviewing Congressman Suha Subramaniam. He and Robert Garcia, who is the ranking Democrat on the House Oversight Committee, they have fired off a letter seeking the former Prince Andrew to have his testimony in front of the committee regarding Jeffrey Epstein. That is big news. It is, is obviously a huge development over in the UK But I'm just going to read you the headline from the Washington Post. The top Democrat on the House Oversight Committee, Congressman Robert Garcia, along with Congressman Subramaniam. They have requested that Andrew Mountbatten Windsor King Charles III's younger brother, appear before Congress for a transcribed interview about convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. I guess we're not supposed to call him Prince Andrew anymore as he was stripped of that and all of this. And this is what the letter says. We seek, we write to seek your cooperation in the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform investigation into Jeffrey Epstein sex trafficking operations. The committee is seeking to uncover the identities of Mr. Epstein's co conspirators and enablers and to understand the full extent of his criminal operations. That is huge, guys. That, that's a big development here in Washington and over in the UK I'm going to talk about this with the congressman in just a short bit from now. But, and, and we're waiting for Molly, John Fast. She's going to hop in in just a moment. But the reason why I wanted to get on as close to 4 o' clock as possible is that, I mean, this is according to the New York Times, this is a major development for people who have travel plans in the next day or two, which includes yours truly, by the way. This is what the New York Times says, transportation officials, they are planning to slash traffic by 10% at 40 major airports because of the government shutdown. Could affect hubs across the country including New York, Washington, Atlanta, Chicago, Charlotte, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Seattle and many other cities. That's according to the faa. You can see the map right there. It's just about every major airport in the country is going to be affected. And you know, a lot of Conversation, a lot of chatter in recent days that, you know, how is this shutdown going to affect me? This is just a Washington exercise. They're fighting with one another. How is this going to affect regular folks across the country? And, and I'm, I'm with the caveat. Let me just say, of course, I understand this affects soldiers and people who work in law enforcement and so on, but there have been a lot of folks who are not federal government, government employees or connected to federal government employees who've been wondering, how is this going to affect me? Well, guess what, folks, this is about to affect a lot of people across the country. If you're going to the airport, you're heading to a major city, you're heading from a major city, your flights could be affected, could be impacted as a result of these, these delays that are going to occur. I mean, the FAA and the Transportation Department are saying that there will be delays. It just depends on whether or not your flight is going to be impacted. They have said that the traffic reduction is necessary to ease pressure. This according to New York Times on air traffic controllers working without pay during this longest government shutdown in U.S. history. Let's keep in mind, as I've said many times on this program, there's been a lot of discussion and debate in corporate media. We marched to a beat of a different drummer here. Corporate media likes to pretend as though the Democrats have caused this shutdown. I don't quite understand the logic behind that. When the Republicans obviously control the House, control the Senate, obviously. Donald Trump is in the White House. He is sending out the marching orders to the Republicans up on Capitol Hill. House Speaker Mike Johnson, of course, has not sworn in Representative Elect Adelita Grijalva, who was elected six weeks ago in Arizona. She has still not been sworn in because they're afraid that she will become the final, decisive vote to force the release of the Epstein files. And so Mike Johnson has been keeping a lot of his members out of Washington, much to the chagrin of even some of his own members. People like Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene has been going after Mike Johnson saying, you know, where's our Obamacare plan, by the way? You know, a lot of the folks in corporate media will blame this on Democrats and say, well, Democrats are, are doing this because they're demanding that these Obamacare premium subsidies for the poor be extended. Well, of course they're doing it. It's the least that should be done right now in the course of this government shutdown. And, you know, if, if there is not some relief in that area, then a lot of people across this country are going to be feeling the pain from that vantage point. People who can't afford Obamacare are going to drop off the insurance rolls. And guess what, as we talked about on this program with many experts and members of Congress and so on, if people get out of the insurance marketplace, what does that do? It raises the price of insurance for everybody else, people like you and me. Somebody has to pick up the slack when folks who don't have insurance anymore start showing up and at the emergency room. And what happens when you go to the emergency room? The price of health care goes up and so on. And so, folks, this is, this is why all of this is so important. And keep in mind, Donald Trump could.
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Dave Ehrenberg
Call.
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Jim Acosta
The speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, he could call John Thune, the Republican leader in the Senate, the majority leader in the Senate, and say, open the damn government. Just give them what they want and it's over. So let's stop pretending that the Democrats are driving the train here when they don't control any of the branches of government. But I digress. They're only, I'm only saying that because folks have been wondering when is this going to have an impact on people? And it's having an impact on people starting in a major way, starting tomorrow morning. I just was looking at my social media feeds and I just saw on Instagram there were some video of the lines that are building at DFW in Dallas Fort Worth, the big airport there in North Texas. The, the lines are starting to get pretty long there. And remember, the pilots don't want this. The airlines don't want this. The FAA people don't want this. The air traffic controllers don't want this. But they're all saying this is for the safety of air travelers because you don't want stressed out, maxed out air traffic controllers. And you can see that there's the map again, folks. You can see just about every major airport in the country. We're waiting for Molly Zhang fast to join us. She's going to join us in just a few moments here. And the other big headline today that I wanted to talk about with Molly is there's big changes happening here in Washington. Speaker emerita Nancy Pelosi. She will not seek reelection. She announced earlier today this, according to the Associated Press, she will not seek reelection to the US House, bringing to a close her storied career as not only the first woman in the speaker's office, but arguably the most powerful in American politics. Pelosi who has represented San Francisco for nearly 40 years. Forty years she represented San Francisco. She announced that decision earlier in the day. I will not be seeking re election to Congress, Nancy Pelosi said in a video addressed to voters. And I will tell you, I've had lots of, I shouldn't say lots of interactions with Nancy Pelosi over the years, but I've had some and, and one of the most memorable ones. I'll just share a quick story. I was watching the D Day exercises in France. This was several years ago during the first Trump administration. And Nancy Pelosi was there standing there at Normandy as one of these remembrances was taking place. And, you know, it was one of those moments where Republican, Democrat, it doesn't matter which side of the aisle you're from, when you're in Normandy, you salute the people who sacrifice so much for this country. Let me just check in with Molly here. How's it going, Molly? Molly is supposed to be here any second. The other thing we wanted to talk about, and this, I'll get all the headlines out that way when Molly jumps in, we'll be good to go. The other thing is, apparently things are getting a little testy inside the Republican House conference, as they call it. House Speaker Mike Johnson is, according to the Hill, he responded to Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene publicly criticizing the party. He says it is because she wants to secure the, quote, big interview with media outlets ahead of the midterm elections. She says he says, quote, I'm not unaccustomed to hearing criticism from Marjorie. We have intense fellowship, as we say in the Deep south. And she knows I've got an open door. I guess Mike Johnson said that to Stephen A. Smith on his podcast. But that, that is been a very interesting storyline in recent days. Marjorie Taylor Greene got into a little bit of a back and forth with Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, AOC it looks like. There she is. Bring Molly in. I think Molly's there. There she is.
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Molly John Fast
I'm so sorry.
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Jim Acosta
No, no, it's okay. The show must go on. So we'll, we'll squeeze in as much as we can while we have you. Where were you coming from, by the way?
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Molly John Fast
You know what? I have very. I, first of all, I do want to point out that I, there are multiple people mad at me for not. I was supposed to be so. Well, you are so, like, lovely. And one of the things about you that maybe people don't know is that you are like one of the nicest people. Like, you're just A lovely human being.
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Jim Acosta
It gets me in too much trouble.
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Molly John Fast
It's. It's a delight. So I'm happy to be here with you.
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Jim Acosta
Oh, no, that's okay. We were just talking. I was just doing a grab bag here. But since you were in transit, I should bring this up only because it is. We've all been waiting for. Of course, the shutdown affects the soldiers and people in law enforcement and all these important. And. But now it's going to affect a lot of people. What happens with these air traffic controllers and the flight shutting down. And what do you think?
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Molly John Fast
What do you think is the move here? So Donald Trump, he just had this, like, bloodbath on 20, you know, the 2025 cycle. It was like every group that he made inroads with was like, no, no, no, no. You know, exactly, like, got destroyed. Right? Just got destroyed. And. And then the next day, he's touring the White House with senators being like, look at what I'm doing to the East Wing.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah.
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Molly John Fast
And it. It's like.
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Jim Acosta
And they put the gold lettering up by the Oval Office. Did you see that?
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Molly John Fast
The Cheesecake Factory. It says the Cheesecake Factory.
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Jim Acosta
It says the Cheesecake. Here it is right here we're showing the video.
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Molly John Fast
In case you're wondering, it's not now called the Oval Office. By the way, how surprised are you that he didn't. He wasn't just like the Oval Office. Trump. The Trump Oval Office.
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Jim Acosta
The Trump Oval Office. Right.
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Molly John Fast
The Mara. The Mara Office. Low.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah, I know.
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Molly John Fast
I just.
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Jim Acosta
It's so tacky. It's becoming more and more like a Cheesecake Factory, which I guess, you know.
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Molly John Fast
Which let us not besmirch the Cheesecake Factory because it has a lot of items on its menu, but like a.
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Jim Acosta
Phone book, you get, like, you have Chinese, you have Mexican, you have Italian, you have steak.
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Molly John Fast
Respect for that. It's like living on a cruise ship. But the point here, if we're going to talk about politics, is that this is a man who has had, like, he has managed to get elected not once, but twice. The second time after killing a million of his supporters. Right? Like the COVID numbers. A million people more died than would have had. We just had a normal president who said, like, you know, wear a mask, wash your hands instead. You know, instead of like, mister, you put the light inside the body. So here's my question for you. You have a guy who clearly has very good political instincts.
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Jim Acosta
Let's give him that.
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Molly John Fast
He seems to have absolute disconnect when it comes to this. And in fact, like my favorite point would, you know, I was on morning to this morning and there was a statement from the White House and it said we're going to be laser focused on affordability. Right.
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Jim Acosta
Oh my God. What? Where they finally got the memo on affordability, which is what he said he would tackle when he was running for president in 2024. By the way, everybody posed with the groceries.
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Molly John Fast
Yeah, right. Bacon, if you're the weave about bacon. But if you are going to be laser focused on affordability, when the first move to be would be to take off the 10, 15, 20, 30, 40% tariffs on goods made all over the world that are then paid for by what I think this John Sauer Sauder, the Supreme Court, Trump's lawyer said that the 50 poor guy percent of it is being paid by the American consumer.
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Jim Acosta
They finally admitted it. It's just like Rudy Giuliani saying, you know, outside of the courtroom, they, they, you know, the election was rigged in 2020. And then he goes in the courtroom and he has to tell the truth to the judge. Yeah, like that whole, it's that whole thing outside of the courthouse, Trump could say China's paying the tariffs, Japan's paying the sheriffs, and then his lawyer gets in the Supreme Court and they have to admit, no, no, no, Americans are paying the tariffs.
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Molly John Fast
But anyway, you have to remember Rudy Giuliani from season one.
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Jim Acosta
Exactly.
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Molly John Fast
We have to go back Rudy Giuliani, who is now, you know, real proof that you can. Donald Trump will make you do illegal things, but eventually the only person who gets away with it. I mean, maybe there are some peripheral people who get away with it, but really, in the end, Trump is the only one who gets away with it.
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Jim Acosta
No, it's true. And then, but you know, besides the tacky gold lettering, another tacky thing to bring up. Marjorie Taylor Greene, apparently. Is she going to run for president or the Senate or what is she doing? She, Trump said she couldn't run for the Senate. That's according to aoc.
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Molly John Fast
So this is my favorite story. Okay.
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Jim Acosta
So she was worried if I, if I could bring it up with you because I didn't know if it was like beneath our level of conversation.
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Molly John Fast
Yes, it's way beneath. We only talk about high level things like Tommy Tuberville.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah.
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Molly John Fast
We shouldn't be dragged down to Marjorie Taylor Greene.
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Jim Acosta
We shouldn't. But she's elevated herself. She was on the View, so, you.
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Molly John Fast
Know, she was on the View and she was on Bill Maher, which like that is a booking. So here's my thought about Marjorie Tilkreen. Clearly, Donald Trump said she couldn't run for Senate in Georgia. This caused a schism, I think that is widely reported. I think we can allow. We can. You know, it's American politics. We got into trouble in the first Trump cycle by thinking that people were ever acting out of their own goodwill.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah.
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Molly John Fast
As opposed to out of their own self interest. Like, these are not people who take this job because they, you know, it's a nice sentiment that these public servants should serve the public, but.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah, but Donald Trump was okay with Herschel Walker running for the Senate, but not Marjorie Taylor Greene.
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Molly John Fast
I mean, who even knows what the thinking there is? But so he. So she had this break with him, and during this break, she's now, she's done, like, two very interesting things. One is that she's like, she and Thomas Massie and Rand Paul are like the five Republicans who are allowed to disagree with Trump, which is so sort of shocking. Like, if you think about it, like, all of these other people who are like doctors or who have, you know, have their lives, spent their lives advocating for free trade are like, Donald Trump is the smartest. Tariffs are amazing. Yeah, it is.
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Jim Acosta
But are we getting punked by Marjorie Taylor Greene? I feel like we're getting punked. I feel like this is a punky.
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Molly John Fast
By all of them. They're all punking us. There's no. When you start thinking these people are good people, you're being punked.
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Jim Acosta
Right, Right.
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Molly John Fast
But, you know, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. And right now, you the one person. And this I think says more the House gop, Is that the one person speaking truth to power?
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Jim Acosta
Yeah.
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Molly John Fast
Is Marjorie Taylor Greene now, is she doing it because she's mad at him? Sure. But yes. You know, I think ascribing good motives for these people's action is where the mistakes happen.
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Jim Acosta
The one thing that is good of out of what she's done lately is she has said the truth on health care. No, she has.
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Molly John Fast
She and she, like, we both do. She has young adult children.
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Jim Acosta
Right.
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Molly John Fast
Like, mom, I can't find a job. Mom, my health care is going to expire.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah.
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Molly John Fast
And she's like, what the fuck is this? And by the way, she's not wrong. I mean, this.
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Jim Acosta
And that's what everybody's going to be saying when they get these Obamacare premiums. Apparently, it's already showing up on healthcare.gov if you try to sign up for Obamacare, the premiums are already up a gajillion dollars and People are like, what the fuck is this? And so at least she's saying that. And I, I mean, maybe it has something to do with her running, wanting to run for president. I don't know, but it sounds as though she just is of that popular or populist, I should say, part of maga. I mean, I, I, I, again, I don't, I think I'm being punked. So I, as, I, as the words are coming out, I feel like I'm being punked.
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Molly John Fast
The real question is not can she run for president? Because she can and she won't. I mean, she might try to, but I think she has enough sense to know she probably won't be president. But the, the real question here is, like, you have Trump having just had this election that showed he had no durability with any of these voters. So all of these voting groups that he made inroads to. Inroads with have disappeared.
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Jim Acosta
Yes.
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Molly John Fast
You now have him. He's underwater on everything from the economy to immigration to this to that, to, you know, things that people didn't, you know, the immigration has now the, the most positive. You know, legal immigration has the highest rating ever. Like, they have made, you know, these people have made legal immigration popular. Right? Like, they have made, they have, they've sort of convinced people of something. So the question, I think, is Republicans have a problem, Right. Donald Trump demands ultimate fealty, right?
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Jim Acosta
Yes.
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Molly John Fast
He demands that you say, you know, you're a genius, Mr. Trump. Remember those North Korean pressers? But he's not popular and he's a huge drag on the ticket. So the question is, like, Marjorie Taylor Greene has one motivation, but when do we see the Lindsey Grahams? When.
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Jim Acosta
Is this the start of a jailbreak?
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Molly John Fast
Well, if it's, if it is, then they've read the writing on the wall. They probably can't do it, though, because Trump will get furious and primary them. But if it isn't, here's the question. Then they're all completely screwed because this guy, what you see in the 2025 numbers is like, my man is an albatross.
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Jim Acosta
He's the captain of the Titanic.
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Molly John Fast
Right.
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Jim Acosta
He'll crash that Titanic more than once.
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Molly John Fast
And like, Chitter Rally is a great example. It's like, you know, you can't be, like, I give him an A plus the only way. And again, this is that if you think about, like, Youngkin, the way Youngkin won in Virginia and was talked about as, like, going to be president. Remember that? And he run, by the way, by, like, two points, and Spanberger won by, like 17. So, you know, no.
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Jim Acosta
And I was talking to Larry Sabato about this yesterday, and. And, you know, they pointed out at the University of Virginia, Abigail Spamberger won Loudoun county, which is one of those suburbs outside of D.C. by 29 points. And it's one of those bellwether counties that they look at what the. What the margin is. It tells us the storyline of each election cycle. But I want to go back to this affordability thing because it's so important. It's what helped Mom Donnie win, help Spanberger, helped Mikey, Sheryl, and so on. When Donald Trump comes out, when the White House comes out and says we're about affordability, now, I just have to say, I have to. I. I need to go to the tallest mountain and scream it at the top of my lungs that this is. This is the guy that threw the Great Gatsby party before kicking people off as snap benefits. This is the guy who's gonna just throw a huge Obamacare bill in your face. This is the guy who. Who bulldozed the east wing of the White House to build a Golden Ballroom. I mean, he. To say that he has any clue or care whatsoever about affordability is a complete joke. And nobody should buy this or believe it whatsoever, ever.
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Molly John Fast
I mean, I think the biggest problem that Trump has, believe it or not, is that I actually think Trump is that the tariffs are like you say you're for affordability. Like Harris and Biden would have killed to be able to have just taken off, just cut off 5% of the cost of things or 10% of the cost of things, or 20. Like, had they been able to wave a magic wand and say things from China are now 20% less in, they would have just absolutely died for that. Donald Trump could do it tomorrow, but he doesn't want to because he believes tariffs are like this genius thing. And so the question is, like, you care about affordability. Okay, just take off the tariffs.
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Jim Acosta
Right, Exactly. And he may get forced to do that. And what do we. Did we pay these countries back? Do we say, here's $20 trillion.
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Molly John Fast
Pay the fucking consumers back. Who paid for it? But the question is like, no, they get hosed. Well, when you look at these, when you look at the Supreme Court, because that Supreme Court has been so incredibly pathetic. And so, you know, just. Mr. Trump, we. Your immunity. You are God king. And that. Shameful, shameful. And then I thought, when I was listening to that tariff. That tariff argument, I thought you heard Gorsuch and you Heard Amy Coney. Now, I think it's important to realize, like, you have two members of the Supreme Court that are, like, basically Fox News hosts, right. Alito and Thomas. Like, they're oan.
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Jim Acosta
They might be more oan.
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Molly John Fast
They're more OAN. Yes. 100% like those two. They're never going to say. They're going to like, Mr. Trump. He's a God king. We love him. And then you have Justice Keg Stand. Who even knows what's going on there? But the two people you have who are sort of interesting and a little bit smart. Amy and Kavanaugh, who believes basically in light fascism, except when it comes to Native Americans. He loves Native Americans. Okay.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah.
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Molly John Fast
But the point is, those two were like, we're a little skeptical of this. And it's like, you have to wonder. You have this job for the rest of your life, Right. It's a lifetime appointment. You are as unpopular as the Supreme Court has ever been.
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Jim Acosta
Exactly.
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Molly John Fast
You have hitched your wagon to the anvil to end all anvils.
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Jim Acosta
And.
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Molly John Fast
And now he's explaining, you know, and.
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Jim Acosta
I completely felt the same thing when I was watching this yesterday, and I was bored to tears at times, but I was thinking, are they putting their finger in the wind and saying, oh, wait a minute. We gave a blank check to this guy, the guy that doesn't pay his contractors, the guy that bankrupts casinos. Oh, shit. Maybe we shouldn't have done that. And maybe we're tanking our own legacies in the process. I mean, they're going to put paper bags over their Supreme Court justice portraits someday. I mean, they should.
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Molly John Fast
They should.
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Jim Acosta
Instead of a picture of John Roberts, there should just be a paper bag.
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Molly John Fast
Yeah. And I think that mo. That moment of them, like. And when you had Gorsuching. Well, like, that would be giving away constitutional power, giving away Congress, Congressional power. Yeah, you. I was like, donald Trump made the speaker of the House like, his little Muppet. Like, he put Mike Johnson in there because he knew that Mike Johnson wouldn't try to, like, disobey him.
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Jim Acosta
Yes. As Bruce Willis said in Die Hard, welcome to the party, pal.
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Molly John Fast
I mean, so it just. It was so. To watch that and to see them sort of in real time, like, clicking through, like, this could really be bad for us, was just so incredibly fascinating. And. And I agree. Yeah. I think we'll see. My guess is we'll see more of that. I don't think we'll ever see it from Alito and Thomas, but I do think we're going to start to see more of that.
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Jim Acosta
I think you're right. I think you're absolutely right. Well, I. And, and just very quickly, because I've got Congressman Subramaniam standing by. No, it's okay. It's totally fine. Quick thought on Mom Donnie. So what is your hot take on Mom Donnie, if I may ask?
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Molly John Fast
Yeah, please.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah, I'm fascinated by this. And Fox News went crazy, I guess. Sean Hannity apparently was like, breathing into a paper bag. He was, like, hyperventilating and, you know, they had to give cold towels to Dana Perino or something. But yeah.
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Molly John Fast
So Mandani is really. Mondani is a really interesting candidate. He is wildly popular. He has turned out voters that Democrats have tried desperately to get out. Now, it's important to note that, like, those younger voters also turned out for Spamberger and for Mikey Sherrill. So it's not, it's not just. If that makes sense. It's not just.
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Jim Acosta
It's just voting for change for a lot of people.
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Molly John Fast
Well, yeah, but I also think he's very. He's very focused. When you hear him, like, someone asked, well, Donald Trump says, you're as that he's better looking than you. What do you think of that? And he's like, I am laser focused on affordability.
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Jim Acosta
I know he's on message, right. And he is hella on message.
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Molly John Fast
So he's really on message. He's very charismatic. He speaks extremely well and he talks to everyone. So you never have, like, he's not gone for the month of August, Right. He's just there doing interviews. And so I think that those are big lessons. And then I think that we'll see the problem. I think the worst thing going for him is that he has the mayoral job. It's a terrible job.
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Jim Acosta
It's a terrible job.
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Molly John Fast
It's an undefeated. The worst job you can ever have. And, like, literally no one has ever had a good experience with it. So I, I don't, you know, I like him better than most.
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Jim Acosta
It's hard to charm those firefighters and those cops. They're sort of like, okay, take a hike, pal.
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Molly John Fast
It's union contracts. It's right. It's plantation workers, it's rats. I mean, it's just not like, it's not sexy. Right. If you were a member of Congress or a senator, you would say, well, like, this will be. Or even the governor. But this is like a city that is in some ways too big to fail and in other ways too big to succeed. You know, and there are Just so many elements of it. And, you know, it's millions upon millions of people and billions of dollars, and I am glad it's not. It's like my. This. My anxiety dream is being mayor of the city.
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Jim Acosta
Well, I think I wish him luck. And, yes, New York is impossible, but.
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Molly John Fast
I think it's got some people in there. He got Lina Khan in there.
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Jim Acosta
I mean, get some good people to run the city for you, and then go do some more interviews and ride the subway and you'll be fine.
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Molly John Fast
Well, listen, man, you know, I mean, we. It's good when they ride the subway. We've had mayors who didn't ride the subway. And that is not, you know, the limousine liberal.
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Jim Acosta
Was it John Lindsay or whatever? Yeah, yeah. I'm dating myself.
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Molly John Fast
No, but I mean. Yes, you are. But also, like, so. I mean, de Blasio.
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Jim Acosta
De Blasio, Gosh. Yes.
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Molly John Fast
Eric Adams, like, Eric Adams.
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Jim Acosta
He didn't even live in New York. Didn't he live, like.
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Molly John Fast
I mean, I don't know about Eric Adams. Was it my. He was like, in Zero at Zero bond all the time. Like, just completely not interested in the job whatsoever. And also did crime.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah. Something that. Which doesn't always work. Molly, great to see you. Thank you so much.
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Molly John Fast
Do you think he gets in the Trump administration?
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Jim Acosta
I think he's going to get. It sounds like they were talking about, like, a HUD position or. I don't know. They're. They're not gonna. I mean, if they give him some. It's like George Santos, you know, I.
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Molly John Fast
Can see George Santos getting a job in that.
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Jim Acosta
It's like the George Costanza. Where can we put him? You know, and he can't do anything. Not work. Just go to sleep under your desk for six hours and go home or something. I don't know. We'll see.
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Molly John Fast
We'll see.
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Jim Acosta
If only I could get that job. Great to see you, Molly. No, no, you did great. We'll fix it in post. It's all good. Okay, See ya. Thanks a lot. And there's Congressman Suha Supermanyam. Congressman, thank you so much for hanging in there. I was running a little bit late. Molly was running late. Then I'm running. Okay, remember, you're a member of Congress and many of them run late, but you were exactly on time. If anything, you were early. So we appreciate it. Thanks. Thank you, guys.
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Congressman Suha Subramaniam
On time. Molly's always very great and entertaining. So she was fine.
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Jim Acosta
And what. I mean, just very quickly. I'll just run it past this. Mom. Donnie Craze In New York. I know you're Northern Virginia congressman and everything, but what did you think of that? I think it's kind of remarkable to see Mamdani as the mayor of New York City coming in.
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Congressman Suha Subramaniam
Yeah. I mean, you know, Democratic Party, we have everything from Jared golden in Maine to Mamdani. Right. You know, we're a big tent party. And what works in New York City may not work in Virginia or other places. But that's the beauty of our party, is that we disagree with each other sometimes, but all politics is local. So, you know, I talk a lot about data centers and federal workers, but, you know, someone in California may not be talking about those same things.
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Jim Acosta
But, you know, and I know that the data center thing has been a huge issue in your district. If only we had time to talk about that. Because, Congressman, one of the reasons why I wanted to have you. Come on. Is I know that you and Congressman Robert Garcia, he's the head Democrat on the Oversight Committee, you both fired off this letter to none other than former Prince Andrew. Do I have this correct? We're showing it on screen right here. Although we're not supposed to call him Prince Andrew anymore. That's right. You've requested that Andrew Mountbatten Windsor. I think I'm saying that correct. King Charles III's younger brother appear before Congress for a transcribed interview about convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. And we were just showing your letter on screen there, and all the Democrats looks like on the committee signed that. Your thoughts? Why. Why do this now? To me, I think it's a. It's a really welcome bit of news because the survivors, the victims, their families, they want justice. They want the truth. And maybe former Prince Andrew has some of that to offer. What do you think?
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Congressman Suha Subramaniam
First of all, I think it's absolutely crazy that no Republicans would sign on to our letter. I think this is more evidence that Republicans care more about covering up for Donald Trump and covering up this whole thing than actually getting to the truth. And I just can't believe they didn't sign on. But, yeah, you know, all the Democrats on the committee have signed on, and it's very simple. We want information from everybody who had information about Jeffrey Epstein's crimes. And if we had more people coming forward and sharing information, it helps our investigation. We've had victims help us behind the scenes and tell us what they know, and it's helped us tremendously. And knowing what to subpoena, which records to go after. You know, financial records, for instance. They told us to go after the financial records because they will tell a story about Epstein's crimes. It's the same thing. We want people like Andrew to come forward with information, but clearly, you know, he is hiding right now. And part of the reason is he's, you know, Virginia Giuffre pointed him as a perpetrator of these crimes. And so, you know, he's a foreign national. We can't compel him to testify. You know, he would have to come voluntarily. But we're giving him the opportunity, on his terms, under his, you know. You know, whatever he wants to do under his scenario, to come forward with information that can help us with this investigation.
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Jim Acosta
And I guess, first of all, have you heard back from him yet? Did you reach out to him through an attorney? How. How did he. How did this letter get. Was the letter delivered? Do you even know if it got delivered?
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Congressman Suha Subramaniam
Yeah, my understanding sent it to the address that's on the letter to his, I guess, his people. And he doesn't live in Windsor Castle anymore.
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Jim Acosta
Right.
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Congressman Suha Subramaniam
But I think he'll get this letter one way or another, and he'll have the opportunity if he wants to testify remotely. He wants to testify on Zoom, we're happy to do that. But whatever he wants to do, in the end, we just want the information because the victims deserve it. The reality is, you know, this entire scheme and this entire criminal enterprise was built on the idea that rich and powerful people can get away with whatever they want, including sexually assaulting underage girls. Right. And whether you're Andrew, who was a prince at the time, or Jeffrey Epstein, who's a billionaire at the time, or anyone else, you should be held accountable, and you should come forward with information if you have it. And so, you know, I know he's potentially trying to clear his name. This is a great opportunity to do that by coming forward and doing right by the victims and telling us what, you know.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah. And, Congressman, I mean, you mentioned Virginia Giuffre. She has accused Andrew of abusing her. She, of course, she committed suicide earlier this year, but her family is still seeking justice. He shows up in these flight records, Andrew does, repeatedly. You know, the evidence I. I suppose, was so astounding that he was stripped of his royal title. And so they must have thought internally inside the royal family, that there was enough there. There to take this sort of action. He's denied, I guess, any wrongdoing, but, I mean, you know, to me, this is somebody who potentially could tell us, tell the American people a lot of what needs to be told. And, you know, it just seems like There's a giant cover up going on right now, Congressman. The speaker of the House won't swear in Adelita Griaba. She would be the final, decisive vote to compel the release of the Epstein files. I mean, there's a part of me that thinks that this whole shutdown is happening because Donald Trump is trying to delay that as long as possible. He's trying to delay the inevitable. Your thoughts on just what has been a massive cover up?
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Congressman Suha Subramaniam
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, Donald Trump, remember, he campaigned on releasing the files because so many people were incensed that the files weren't out there, that there wasn't more information, there wasn't even a real investigation. Every time the FBI and DOJ would actually try to get to the facts, get to the truth, find financial records, even investigate financial crimes, they were stopped in their track. Junior people were stopped in their track by senior people. We had Alex Acosta come to our committee and tell us what he knew and interview with us. And we've already gotten information that contradicted what he told us. For instance, that he knew about the financial crimes and many other things. And so, again, I'm not going to stop this. I know other members of the committee, at least the Democrats, are not going to stop, because we don't want rich and powerful people to be getting away with crimes because of their status and their wealth. And if the American people could trust us, at least do that, at least hold rich and powerful people accountable. I think we go a long way in restoring trust in government.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah. No, it's interesting that you mentioned Alex Acosta, and as I try to remind our viewers, no relation, but he was brought in and, and there were some. There were some problems with his testimony. And it's in the financial element of all of this is very important. Was Jeffrey Epstein kind of laundering his money with these big banks, hiding his financial activities, hiding his personal activities, these criminal activities by using different banks and that sort of a thing.
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Congressman Suha Subramaniam
Yeah. One of the great mysteries is how Epstein made his money, Right?
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Jim Acosta
Yeah.
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Congressman Suha Subramaniam
But in any case, one of the things I want Andrew to do if he does come interview with us, is to at least do so under oath in some form, because I don't want someone to come to us and just lie through their teeth. I know Ghislaine Maxwell's lied under oath herself, but at least, you know, under some sort of penalty of perjury. Tell us what you know, because I want the truth, really, and, you know, I want to see him come forward and actually help us, not just you know, play games with us.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah. And the, and the survivors, the victims, their families. I know that they've come to Washington, they've met with folks like yourself up on Capitol Hill, and your hearts just go out to them. I mean, they've. They've been put through the ringer so many times, and they've been given false hope, false expectations so many times. And I. It seems to me the Democrats on the Oversight Committee are just not letting up. Why won't Chairman Comer go along with this letter to have Andrew testify? Why? What's. Why hide? Why protect Andrew? I don't understand that.
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Congressman Suha Subramaniam
Well, it's the same thing that they've experienced over and over again, from the time when prosecutors were interviewing them and then taking their interviews and sharing it with Epstein's team, right to the time when, you know, the conviction, the charges against Epstein were basically a sweetheart deal for him. And then he continued during his work release for working for a nonprofit that didn't actually exist to sexually assault girls in his home. Right. The whole time this past 15, 20 years, they've been let down by the government over and over again, and Republicans are continuing to do it. The Trump administration said they released the files. They haven't released the files. Republican members of this committee continue to say that they will back us up in trying to get information, get to the truth, but they have a limitation, and that's trying to protect the President. And so I don't know who the President's trying to protect. Seems like he has friends who are involved and engaged in this. He himself was a friend of Jeffrey Epstein's. And so this goes all the way to the top. And I'm not going to disappoint them, though. I'm not going to continue to let them let the perpetrators of these terrible crimes off the hook.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah. Well, Congressman Subramaniam, I always appreciate it when you come on. We really enjoyed talking to you last time. Thanks for coming on again. It's such an important issue. As soon as I saw this story this morning, I wanted to reach out to you because I just thought, you know, this is, this is important stuff, and I've spoken with, you know, these folks and the, the survivor community, and they just deserve better than this, better than what they've got. And, and it's, it's really important. So hope, let us know what happens with Andrew. That'll. That'll be fascinating if that indeed happens. But thank you for your time.
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Congressman Suha Subramaniam
Absolutely. Thank you.
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Jim Acosta
Really appreciate it. Good to see you, sir. Thank you. That's Congressman Subramaniam from Northern Virginia, very close to where I grew up in Northern Virginia. So I appreciate his time very much. The, the other, the other big development today, folks. I don't know if you saw this. I'm pretty sure you saw this, that the sandwich guy was acquitted. He was found not guilty by a jury in Washington, D.C. and earlier I spoke with legal analyst Dave Ehrenberg. Our buddy, Dave Ehrenberg, he was on earlier this week. I had him on again because we had to talk about sandwich guy. Remember, this is the guy that threw a Subway sandwich at a police officer when everybody was pissed that, you know, what Trump was doing here in Washington, D.C. and they tried to throw the book at him. Well, it turns out he's been acquitted. He's been found not not guilty. Here's my conversation with Dave. And joining me now is legal expert Dave Ehrenberg. Dave, great to see you as always. We're bringing you back again. How about that?
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Dave Ehrenberg
I love it, Jim. Twice in a week. Thank you.
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Jim Acosta
Twice in a week. Well, and the reason why is because this just in, big news from the legal world, Sandwich guy found not guilty. According to NBC 4 here in Washington, a D.C. man who threw a sandwich at a federal agent and what he called an act of protest this summer was found not guilty of a federal assault charge. Jurors found Sean Dunn not guilty of one misdemeanor assault charge. Earlier in the day in federal court in D.C. dunn apparently told local reporters he's glad the trial is over. Dave, this is, this is the hero we need in this moment, so to speak. Your thoughts?
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Dave Ehrenberg
I love how you use that hero, that double meaning of the word hero. Yes.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah.
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Dave Ehrenberg
They say you can indict a ham sandwich, but here he was not indicted by a grand jury. So maybe the ham sandwich wasn't fresh enough or it was too crusty. We don't exactly know if a salami turkey, that was an issue that came up in this trial. And the fact that we're having fun with it shows you why the jury said, what are we doing here? I mean, this is a waste of our time. We have a government shutdown and you're putting a guy on trial for throwing a wrapped Subway sandwich at a federal officer. And the question for the jury was, was there bodily harm? Of course not. Or was a reasonable fear of bodily injury and the victim's own.
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Jim Acosta
That's a mustard on that throw, I should say. But anyway, you know, well, you know.
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Dave Ehrenberg
If you're wearing a white shirt and someone splats a sandwich on you, it's all mustard. Yeah, okay, maybe, but that's how it happened here. You've got a rap sandwich, you've got a guy in his body armor and a sandwich was thrown at him. And if you want to know whether he was in reasonable fear of bodily injury, well, he testified the victim, and he said, oh, I got all these gag gifts. Someone gave me a stuffed animal that was in the shape of a sandwich and stuff. So it was all fun and games for him. So if the victim is joking about it, why should the jury take it seriously?
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Jim Acosta
Yeah. And I mean, first of all, I, I wonder if the judge told the prosecution that's the way the cookie crumbles. But, you know, putting that to the side, I mean, this was a ridiculous case to pursue to begin with. I mean, come on, he threw a sandwich. Give me a break.
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Dave Ehrenberg
Well, the fact that a grand jury, which really will indict just about anyone, rejected this. And then Jeanine Pirro, the D.C. u.S. Attorney, then said, okay, we'll follow misdemeanor charge where we don't need a grand jury. That was an L. That's a loss. That's a mistake. Because they've created a hero out of Mr. Dunn. A martyr, a hero. He's now a national celeb. And part of it is not just that he was found not guilty, but also the way that they treated him. Do you know how they. They got him? They. They raided his place. Part of the reason why this guy became such a hero to people is the way that law enforcement raided his place. They raided his home in a militarized way to grab him, to arrest him for a nonviolent offense. And this wasn't the type of Mar a Lago document raid that Trump complains about, where he was called in advance. The Secret Service was called, and they arranged for a peaceful entrance without guns a blazing. To execute a search warrant.
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Molly John Fast
No.
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Dave Ehrenberg
They sent in 2020 militarized agents crazy to arrest him at his home. So this is the reason why he became a folk hero. It wasn't just that he threw a sandwich. It was the way that he was treated by the system. And now you have an acquittal. It's an embarrassment for Jeanine Pirro and law enforcement, the Trump administration. Now you've got a hero that perhaps we do need in this day and age.
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Jim Acosta
Well, yeah, and the other thing, too that's happening, Dave, is. And going back to jury nullification is that, I mean, this has been written about here in D.C. that people are just so pissed at, you know, what's been happening with the National Guard coming in and the ICE raids and so on. You're going to have jury, jury pool members saying, you know what? I'm, I'm not down with this. And, you know, they may not disclose when they're being selected for a jury that they harbor these kinds of frustrations, and they make it on that jury and say, I'm not going along with this. And I'm just. I'm just saying it's a fact of life. You know, I'm not encouraging it. I'm not condoning it. I'm just saying this is what happens.
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Dave Ehrenberg
Washington, D.C. voted for Trump with, like, 5% of the vote, something like that.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah, yeah.
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Dave Ehrenberg
So you have this grand jury system in D.C. where the grand jurors are part of the resistance, where they are rejecting cases against Trump critics, and this.
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Congressman Suha Subramaniam
Was one of them.
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Dave Ehrenberg
And now you have the actual jury saying, what are we doing here? Not guilty. And this wasn't a hung jury. This was a unanimous jury saying, not guilty, acquitted. And so it's a real repudiation. I mean, this case should never have been brought. And will it stop Jeanine Pirro and the D.C. u.S. Attorney's office from doing this more? No, I don't think so. But I do think, combined with Tuesday's election results, it should really give MAGA some pause that they're going in a direction the country does not want them to go.
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Jim Acosta
Right. It was assault with a deli weapon. I guess you could say it was. It was. At least it wasn't a club sandwich. I'm trying to run through all the puns I can off the top of my head.
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Dave Ehrenberg
You've done this. You've got good ones. And I had heard some good ones. I forgot them. You know, I. I guess that's the difference between you and me. That's why you get paid the big bucks.
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Jim Acosta
I'm just thinking back to when the story broke. I'm just thinking back to all the. All the puns, but just doing the best. But, you know, on a serious note, and this is somewhat related, Dave, we should tackle this just for a second. Apparently, down in South Florida, the Justice Department is preparing to issue a series of grand jury subpoenas as part of a investigation into former CIA Director John Brennan. And, you know, they're. They're still trying to go after John Brennan on the Russian interference investigation and claim that he was somehow in cahoots and trying to get Trump. And this is all part of the Trump retribution. Campaign. My, my characterization and, but it says the investigation is being supervised by the U.S. attorney in South Florida, Jason Reading Quinones. And you were, I believe you were saying that there might be some tie here, some connection to somebody very interesting in Trump world. That kind of explains what's going on here.
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Dave Ehrenberg
Well, yeah, the U. S. Attorney there was nominated. It was promoted by individuals on, you know, the far right of the Republican Party, the folks who are involved with Project 2025. I know that Mike Davis was very supportive of him, and so he's very conservative. And now this case is being reviewed by him down there. And again, I think this is a case that, like Comey, like Letitia James, will end up nowhere. Will, will be dismissed by a court as vindictive prosecution because they just don't have the goods. This is about whether Brennan lied when he was a witness in August 2020. About. Right. About whether or not he knew about the Steele dossier and whether he was involved with Steel Dossier. He said, you know, I wasn't involved in any of that stuff. And there was a German Fox News.
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Jim Acosta
Mumbo jumbo, you know, Newsmax. Oan they just. It's there. It's all these conspiracy theories run running around in their heads.
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Dave Ehrenberg
Well, you know, that's why Bill Barr put John Durham in charge of a special investigation into the origins of Russia. And John Durham, who wanted to please Bill Barr and President Trump and wanted convictions and eventually failed. They had two weak cases, quick acquittals, embarrassment, humiliation. Well, they decided not to charge Brennan. They said, there's nothing here. So if Bill Barr and John Durham, whose focus was prosecuting folks like John Brennan, said, no, there's nothing here, how is the case getting stronger two years later? Or maybe there's a political motivation to it.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah. And the point is, it seems in a lot of these cases is just to make their lives difficult, harass them for a window of time to sort of what, soothe Donald Trump's feelings, whatever he's, you know, these, these feelings that he has deep down inside that I guess he can't control these impulses, these retribution impulses or something. I mean, it's, it's a joke.
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Dave Ehrenberg
And, you know, you can get away with it on a podcast. You can't get away with it in a court of law.
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Jim Acosta
Right.
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Dave Ehrenberg
It's going to be a humiliation once the cases against Comey and Letitia James are dismissed before they ever get to a jury. They're not going to jury now. The case against John Bolton is different. It looks like they've got something there. And also it's telling that that was indicted by the career prosecutors involved with national security, not the Lindsey Halligan who had never prosecuted a case before, who was Trump's insurance lawyer and who had to do it on her own because the career prosecutor said, no, Bolden case is different. But here's the thing. Once you go down the road of vindictive prosecutions over here, Jim, it infects the real prosecutions over there. So John Bolton's best friend is Jim Comey and Letitia James, because that could give him a get out of jail free card here.
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Jim Acosta
Right? Bolton can just say, hey, it's happening to me, too. And, and, and perhaps it is. We don't know. We'll, we'll see how the facts are laid out in that case. But Dave, always great to see you. Thanks so much. And hold the mayo.
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Dave Ehrenberg
Hey, thank you. Can I plug my substack always, please.
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Jim Acosta
It's right there at Dave Aronberg. Don't forget, folks, Dave is new to substack, relatively new to Substack. We all need to subscribe and follow Dave because we always enjoy his legal analysis on, on MSNBC is one of those great places. And, and here as well.
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Dave Ehrenberg
Love being on your show, Jim. Keep up the great work in independent media and let's do it again.
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Jim Acosta
We'll do it again. Thanks, Dave. Appreciate it. And I'm sorry about all the puns there, folks. I should be put in the penitentiary. You know, I, I should hold the cheese. But I, I love the dad jokes too much. Guys, one thing that we should tackle one last time is. And because, I mean, maybe it's because I'm flying within the next 24 hours. At least I think I am. We put that map up again one more time of the, the flight delays and how they're gonna. I mean, this is what the FAA is going to be doing to just about every big airport in the United States of America. It is about to go through hell because Donald Trump won't tell the Republicans to reopen the goddamn government. I repeat, the airlines, the airports across the country, air travelers across the country are about to go through hell on earth because Donald Trump will not reopen the goddamn government. And keep in mind, this is now the longest government shutdown in the nation's history, and it's happening under Donald Trump. And what does he care? You know, he, but let me just, maybe I should just cut him a little slack here, right? Maybe I should cut him a break, right? Because he's working on the really important things right now. I. Isn't he working? Oh, he's not. What's he working on right now? Oh, yeah, that's right. They're cha. There. They added a sign. Did you see this? They added a sign outside the Oval Office over at the White House. It says the Oval Office next to the Oval Office outside the White House. It's sort of like, you know, when they put the male sign next to the men's room and the woman's sign next. I mean, it's kind of. I, I mean, maybe it's just me because I've been to the White House a lot and I know what the Oval Office is like. That's, that's the bloody Oval Office. And. But Trump cannot help himself walking around the White House making these tacky changes to the People's House. And I just have. I, I just want to know, like, even the Trump supporters out there, if there are any watching. And I don't think there are, but if there's one of you out there, if you could go in the comments and just answer honestly if you like that it says the Oval Office. That, that you like that they painted in gold paint, in cursive, the Oval Office. It looks like something out of Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. And I apologize, I'm dating myself again. I mentioned Mayor John Lindsay earlier, which I'm sure people like, God, you're old. He predates me, by the way. But I mean, this looks like Robin Leach, Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous, Champagne wishes and caviar dreams. There's the President of the United States. He loves gold. He puts gold everywhere in the Oval Office. And now he has gold lettering outside the Oval Office. This is Robin Leach. For all the young kids out there who don't know who the hell Robin Leach is, and Lifestyles of the Rich and famous go on YouTube. I promise you, I'm pretty close to a dead on impersonation of Robin Leach, who used to host this show, Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. And it typically focused on extremely wealthy and tacky people with their gold everywhere. And this is basically what Donald Trump has done to the White. In addition to bulldozing the East Wing, he has made it quite possibly the tackiest building in the United States of America next to Trump Tower. And if you go into Trump Tower in Manhattan, that also has a lot of fake gold everywhere, and it's tacky as hell. But now the People's House, the Oval Office, and the rest of the White House just might be the Tackiest building in the United States of America. So air travelers, when you're heading off to the airport and your flight's been canceled or delayed or there's a six hour line to go through TSA and you've missed your flight and you've, you're pissed off and you're angry, there's one person, there's one human being, there is only one American to blame. It is this guy right here. It is Donald Trump. Donald Trump is the only person blame. He could get on the phone right now, call Mike Johnson. He can get on the phone right now and call John Thune and say, reopen the goddamn government. Give the Democrats the Obamacare thing and reopen the goddamn government. But he's not going to do that. He's not going to, he, he wants to inflict more pain. This is a president who will throw a Great Gatsby party right before cutting off snap benefits. And he's also the same president who will put tacky gold lettering on the Oval Office, on the outside of the Oval Office, right down, right before he shuts down all of the nation's airports. Donald Trump, the President of the United States, the tackiest man in America. And now the tackiest building in America. Ladies and gentlemen, I want to thank all of you watching on Substack on a regular basis. I think we've got a large, pretty large audience today. I think I just noticed like 8,000 people in the live. Fantastic. Love this so much. Appreciate the comments. And just a reminder, if you're, if you want to be a subscriber, you're watching on YouTube and you want to subscribe. We love that. It means so much. Hit the subscribe button, hit the like button, send a comment. All of those things go into the little algorithm thing, machine that they have at Substack and YouTube and it somehow translates into us having more success, which means that we can continue to do this. We can continue to thumb our nose at the corporate media and do this independent media pirate ship thing that we're doing over here. And if you're like me and you enjoy pissing everybody off in the corporate media landscape, the best way you can do that is to continue to support this program however you can. And it will also piss off the tackiest man in America in the tackiest building in America who, who is like out of a Robin Leach, Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. For those of you who are kids, go look it up. It's worth a Google, it's worth a YouTube. It's probably on Tick tock. My thanks to everybody for watching. As always, really appreciate it. All of the folks in the comments really appreciate all the great comments. We love them so much. And in the meantime, still reporting from Washington, I'm Jim Acosta. Have a good evening. I'll see you next time. Sa.