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Mitch Landrieu calls Speaker Mike Johnson's plea for no GOP town halls a "sissy move" and "The Good Liars" talk about Trump rallies and flat-earth conferences.
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Jim Acosta
Welcome to the Jim Acosta Show, TGIF edition of the Jim Acosta Show. Thank goodness it's Friday. We finally got there, everybody. And on screen right there, you can see me. Joining me on the program today is the former mayor of New Orleans, top Biden administration official, Mitch Landrieu. Mr. Mayor, great to see you.
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Mitch Landrieu
Thank you, Jim. And first of all, let me, before we say anything, let me thank you for your courage and your willingness to kind of bear witness to this kind of thing in the Constitution that says we have a constitutional right to, you know, justify our grievances against our government. It's a good, it's a good thing. And the importance of the First Amendment, which we're going to need to, you know, lean on more heavily going forward. So thank you.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah, there's a lot of use of the First Amendment going around these days, a lot of use of free speech and some freedom of the press, too, although the current administration in power has a, has a bone to pick with, I guess, that part of the First Amendment. But we'll get into some of that stuff, I guess. Mitch, first of all, I wanted to get into, you know, this question of will they or won't they? It looks like we won't have a government shutdown, although we haven't seen the final votes come in yet. But a battle has emerged inside the Democratic Party over what to do about this continuing resolution that's pending up on Capitol Hill and how to battle Donald Trump. The Washington Post is saying the spending bill is expected to pass the Senate, but it could bolster Donald Trump's push to wrest power away from Congress and give the administration even greater control over the budget as he seeks to shrink the federal government. I mean, Mitch, one of the issues with this continuing resolution, as I understand it from reading the Washington Post, is that the CR would essentially hand Donald Trump and Elon Musk something of a blank check to spend the money that goes into these various agencies and departments however they see fit, unlike a spending bill, a budget bill, which very specifically says how you spend the money. So a lot of Democrats are saying to Chuck Schumer, don't do it. Don't go. Don't go for this. Schumer, the Senate minority leader last night, as you know, said that he is going to support it. He might bring enough Democrats on board to get it passed. A lot of outrage right now. What are your thoughts?
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Mitch Landrieu
Well, I just people are angry and they're frustrated, as they should be. You know, when the folks went to the polls just to Remind everybody, Donald Trump only won by 1.5%, the lowest margin in the history of the country, save one other election in our history, if my facts are correct. Secondly, as people may recall, Donald Trump lost 2.5 million jobs, the largest number of jobs of any president in the history of the country, I think, except Grover Cleveland. So this idea that Donald Trump had some kind of mandate is a self proclamation by him, which of course we would expect of him, which you don't expect from members of Congress, whether they're Republicans or Democrat, to cede the structure of the Constitution, whether it's advice or consent, or whether or not it's given the President more prerogatives than he should be. And of course, this president, unlike any president that we have ever had, essentially said, I am a king and I'm gonna do whatever I want. So the thing that interests me a lot is why Speaker Johnson, on behalf of another branch of government, whether you be a Democrat or a Republican, but an American first, is allowing Donald Trump to give power to unaccountable people, 14 of whom are billionaires, to essentially eviscerate the services that the American people have come to know and love. Now listen, I'm a mayor every day. You have to make government work better. You have to get rid of waste, fraud, you gotta get rid of abuse. But while you're doing that, you should do that with a scalpel. You should not do it with an ax or clearly with a buzz saw. So one of the challenges is, and we've told the American people this elections have consequences and that Donald Trump was very clear when he told the American people, I'm gonna basically burn the barn down. Now, Sam Rayburn, one of the great speakers of all time, said, any jackass can kick town a barn, but it takes a really smart carpenter to build a good one. And so I'm very concerned that Speaker Johnson, on behalf of all of Congress members, are not asserting their prerogatives the way they are now. Elections matter for people who are not paying attention. The Republicans run everything. It is their government. They have the Supreme Court, they've got the presidency, they've got the Senate, they have got Congress. And if people want to push back, we have to take Congress back. If you don't have enough votes to stop them, then you get into this very bad situation that the Democrats on the Hill are, which is, listen, we wanna be against indiscriminate cuts. We don't want. We wanna make sure the American people have the services they need. So. But now you're gonna ask us to shut down the government. And that's always bad for people in Congress, whether they're Republicans or Democrats. So they're in a very, very tough place. So understand people's frustration. The bad.
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Jim Acosta
It's a crappy vote. Yeah.
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Mitch Landrieu
The battle, though. Well, look, when I was mayor, I took over in a very difficult time. My staff used to come in and they would say, look, you have two choices. And the choices were always between good. I mean, between bad and really bad. And what you want to do is get your. Get yourself in a place where your choices are between good and better. So. But you already know, the American people have spoken on this. The battle is going to be on the street, where it matters, where people live. And you see where these congressmen are courageous enough to have town hall meetings, and many of the Republicans are not. Their Republican constituents are showing up saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. I need my firefighter.
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Jim Acosta
You're right.
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Mitch Landrieu
I need to know that Noah is looking out and telling me when the hurricanes are coming and when the fires are coming or when the storms are coming. I need to know what is happening with agricultural products. And when you get into this indiscriminate, complete evisceration of your responsibilities and give it to Elon Musk, who's not really thinking about anything, what I would say to them is, don't cut stupid. You don't have to be cruel to rule. Let's kind of really be thoughtful and organized. And I think the American people are very frustrated by the situation that we have right now.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah. And so, Mitch, what would you do if you had a vote up there right now? Would you go along with this? I mean, as a mayor, I know you must be hesitant to say, yeah, let's shut down the government. You were a mayor.
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Mitch Landrieu
But this is tough. I have to say that I'm very torn about this, because when you're the mayor, you are responsible for making it work in good times and in bad, and the doors have to open and the. The lights have to come on. On the other hand, I am as frustrated and as angry as anybody else. And you want to kind of throw yourself, you know, in the front of the tractor and say, stop. I think the Democrats have a bad hand at this moment. But what Democrats should do and American citizens should do, not just Democrats, because this is not a. This is what everybody has to kind of get in the head. This is not a Democrat or Republican thing anymore. This is about how America is gonna function and whether or not we're Gonna have a king, you know, and a ruler, or whether or not we're going to have a democratic process that's actually signed off. And you've heard James Carville, and he's half right about this, is Trump is going to do some things and people need to see the consequences and go, wait a minute, that's not what I elected him for. So, for example, and let's be really clear about this, the one thing that American people said they elected him for was to reduce prices, to make my life easier. Mortgage, reduce the price of eggs, make my life easier. Let me go to work, and when I get home at night, give me a chance to be with my kids so that I don't have to work to live. I don't want to live to work. I can work to live. And that is not happening right now. So is Donald Trump really kind of. He's great at this. Focus on Greenland, focus on Panama, focus on all this other stuff. Just don't focus on what I told you I was going to do for you. Please don't see me helping out my billionaire friends. American people are smarter than that. And. And I think that they're going to rise to the occasion, but it's going to be very hard. It's going to be a very tough time for our country.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah.
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Mitch Landrieu
It turns out that. It turns out that the thing that democracy needs to survive is, is for people to bear witness.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah.
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Mitch Landrieu
And that is why I would say to people, do what you can do. And you say, well, what can I do? My question back to you is, I don't know, what can you do? What will you do? And will you stand up and be counted at a time when it matters? And I think that. I think that that's going to be the test of our time.
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Jim Acosta
A lot of Americans want to fight back. You mentioned these town halls. This Republican Congressman, Chuck Edwards had one in Asheville, North Carolina, last night, and people were screaming at him. The Associated Press says for about an hour and a half, Edwards endured a constant barrage of jeers, expletives, and searing questions on Trump administration policy. This is happening at every town hall in America right now.
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Mitch Landrieu
I think. Here's why. I think that. Because sometimes. And by the way, Washington, I'm not of Washington. I'm from. I was a local government guy. I was in the state legislation. I was lieutenant governor, I was mayor. I spent a year and a half in Washington. And, you know, Washington in many ways is a broken town. The structure doesn't produce a good result. So American People are frustrated and justifiably so. All right, now, when that congressman, I was not at his meeting, but I've been in North Carolina a couple of times since the storm hit, and I was there right after it happened, and I've been back once or twice. All those folks want to do is get back in their homes. They want to get their lives restarted again. And as frustrated as they might be with FEMA or with all these other things, when you tell them that you are taking an axe to noaa, which is, you know, oceanic and Atmospheric association.
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Jim Acosta
This is the helpless. That's right.
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Mitch Landrieu
These guys get it. Wait, wait a minute. These guys get in gains, get in planes and fly through hurricanes. The heroes. They're the ones, they're the ones who can see days out that, hey, there's a badass storm coming your way and you about to get wet, so you need to get out of way. That's these guys. When they tell them that, no, I'm going to blind you and I'm going to stop you from hearing. So you can't tell the people of North Carolina how to get away. Those people who are still wet and still tired and as soon not go, wait a minute, man. I wanted you to get rid of waste, fraud and abuse. I didn't want you to get rid of my lifeline.
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Jim Acosta
That's right.
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Mitch Landrieu
And so that's why the American people are watching this. They also know that on this cut thing that musk has gone through. And by the way, I know about this because I cut 22% out of my budget. When I became.
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Jim Acosta
You did this in New Orleans, it was bankrupt.
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Mitch Landrieu
Well, what happened was, and people remember this Katrina hit. And by the way, had no one not told us about Katrina coming, instead of losing 1800 people, we probably would have lost 10,000 people. So this is personal to me. Then when you move ahead, the city, we had to lay off a bunch of people. The. The city was 17ft underwater. We not only had Katrina, but we had Rita, Ike, Gustav, the national recession, the BP oil spill. So when I took over in 2010, the BP oil spill had just hit. The economy was flat on its back. The city was literally bankrupt. And the lawyer said to me, you got to take the city into bankruptcy. And I said, no, no, I'm not going to do that. Yeah, I'm going to do the hard thing and I'm going to do the cut. Now, I believe the government can be an active age of a change, but it's got to be efficient and effective. So I cut with a scalpel. And I cut 20% out of the budget. But I cut in a way that, to the extent that I recall, was thoughtful, was not cruel. It was tough because we had to do it. But it was done in a way so that when the economy got better, it could grow back over time, and we did not lose the heart and soul of who we were as a city. Now, this is easy to explain. If you have to lose 30% of your body weight, okay, you can either go on a very thoughtful exercise management diet, or you can just cut your right leg off, right? One of them is going to kill you and you're going to bleed to death. The other one is going to make you healthier and better. And I think the American people are thinking through that, saying, this doesn't make a lot of sense to me, so stop, because it's going to hurt me.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah, no, they'd rather use a scalpel than Elon Musk's chainsaw, which, you know, I saw somebody call it the Tesla chainsaw massacre. But, you know, this leads me to this question, Mitch, and that is, you're right. This is not about going after waste, fraud, and abuse. This is political. You know, cutting 50% of the education Department budget is political. Getting rid of Noah is political. Those kinds of things are getting rid of USAID as political. So why should the Democrats go along with Mike Johnson, your fellow Louisianan, go along with Donald Trump and keep the government open? Why not hold them to the carpet and say, listen, we will help you keep the government open, but you cannot take apart this government with a meat ax or with a chainsaw, for that matter?
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Mitch Landrieu
Well, the problem, first of all, that might be the right thing to do. What I'm just saying to people is, as they're thinking through this and they're creating a judgment of their elected officials they should think through. Well, if they do that, is that a better thing to do than waiting until October when the real budget fight happens and not harming the American people as much? So essentially, what Donald Trump and Mike are doing is they're holding your children hostage. Yes, that's what that. And daring you to help them kill them. So, you know, my dad, who was a great politician, he would say to me, when I would say, dad, you know, help me figure this out, he said, listen, man, he said, be smart and play your politics in the future. Don't be angry and stick yourself in the eye. So I would just encourage the congressmen and women to think through this really, really hard. And our constituents out there that are upset. Put your anger into getting a congressman that. So we have the votes to actually make the policies that are necessary for change, because 2026 is coming fast. 2028 is going to be here before you know it, and you got to play the short game and the long game. So, I mean, I'm just basically saying do both. And, yeah, always I hear more and give these folks room, you know, to do what they think is the best thing to do in this moment. Yeah, and make sure that. And make sure you point the finger at the right guys who. Republicans, that.
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Jim Acosta
I was just. I was about to. You're. You're from Louisiana. You must have some knowledge of Mike Johnson, the House speaker. He's relatively unknown around the country. I mean, he was sitting behind, sort of smirking behind Trump throughout that speech before a joint session of Congress. He's ultra conservative. What do we know? What do you know about him? What's your assessment?
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Mitch Landrieu
Well, he's. He's a. Mike. Mike's a really interesting guy. You know, he. He's often wrong, but never in doubt. He speaks in very kind, mellifluous tones, but he's really hardcore, and he likes to remind everybody he said this many, many times, hey, I'm a constitutional scholar and I'm a Bible guy, and I would just encourage Mike to read the Constitution that he is the third most powerful person in the country. He oversees an institution that's supposed to be an independent branch of government. From my perspective, Mike and them have basically given over the power of Congress. Can you imagine Mitch McConnell or Harry Reid or anybody else just selling to the president, do whatever you want, when you want and how you want without any. I mean, really, if you think about it.
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Jim Acosta
But that's because he knows that Trump can get rid of him, I guess. I mean, that's basically.
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Mitch Landrieu
Unfortunately, I think if anybody watched the Gladiator, which I think is a great movie, one of the old guys that was taking care of Russell Crowe, he said to Russell Crowe, his character, he said, hey, listen, if you win the crowd, you can win your freedom. And what has happened is on the far right side of what is now called the Republican Party, they're not the party of Reagan anymore or Bush or even Barry Goldwater. What has happened is Donald Trump has gotten in a position where in a primary, he can unseat any of these people. So it just turns out, again, I said democracy, to survive, needs witness. It also turns out that it needs courage and that there are some things that Donald Trump is asking people to do that are extra constitutional. They are going to eviscerate the foundations of democracy as we know it. And you got to stand up. And you know it's going to hurt because he's going to. He will unseat some people. There is no doubt about that.
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Jim Acosta
But there's true.
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Mitch Landrieu
And I'm talking to a guy. I'm talking to a guy that just gave up his job because he didn't feel like that he had the freedom to do what it is that he needed to do. So I don't mean to preach to you, but I'm not asking people to necessarily get hurt with their families, but you do have to stand up and be counted, and we have to do that through elections.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah. People want to fight back. And I think that I'm in a very live and let live moment right now where people want to fight back. People want to, you know, march in the streets and go at it. You know what? There's a lot of bad shit happening right now, and it seems to me you might as well just go for it right now.
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Mitch Landrieu
Let me say. Let me say this to all the people who are listening. Don't do anything that's violent.
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Jim Acosta
No.
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Mitch Landrieu
Don't cost anybody. Don't assault anybody. But if you want to go in the street and raise your voice, get the hell out there and say what you feel like you need to say and who you need to say it to. And by the way, those Republican congressmen, okay, they have Democrats in that district and independents in that district, and they are supposed to be answerable. Look, when I was mayor, every year I did at least seven major town hall meetings that had somewhere between 500 and 1,000 people. And I sat my behind in the front of that room. I was the first one there. I was the last one. You took it, and they beat and they beat the hell out of me. I remember that.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah.
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Mitch Landrieu
Okay. And I answered every question that they had. Just because you got to take that whooping when you're an elected official, you got to take the whooping, you got to answer the questions, and you got to be that. It's called being accountable.
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Jim Acosta
And Mike Johnson is telling these members, don't do town halls.
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Mitch Landrieu
I mean, what that stuff. I'm telling you, and I'll tell you why it's smart politically for all elected officials to do this. Because what I found, whether my constituents agreed with me or they did not agree with me, what they appreciated was being able to get after me and skin me if they wanted to. You got to Have a thick skin. And again, let me just say this. If you go to these town hall meetings, be respectful. You can be passionate, you can yell, be respectful. Stay within your time, make sure everybody else has a right to say it. But your elected representatives need to hear directly from you, and you should demand that they hear from you. And if you're the elected representative, I've done this. Look, I did 16 years in the legislature, six as lieutenant governor and eight as mayor, and this has been completely true no matter where I was. If you do that, you will do nothing but gain respect from your constituents because they don't expect you. They do not expect you to be with them 100% of the time. What they do expect is that you better damn well listen to them and hear them and have just a reasonable reason why you're gonna do whatever you're gonna do. And so if Democrats, if people out there wanna know what to do, redress your grievances against your government in a thoughtful, provocative way, because it adds to the value of public discourse. That's how America becomes great. And let me just add with this, this whole make America great again. I want to be great. Being great is a great thing, but you don't have to be mean as hell to be great. You don't have to hate to be great. You don't have to think about taking us back to a place when people didn't have opportunities to be great. We can all be great going forward and we can do it together. But it means debate. Because debate and the ability to debate each other and disagree with each other, but still live in peace, that's what makes America the strong country that we are.
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Jim Acosta
And where, where did the Democrats go from here? You were there on the Biden team. You saw what took place in 2024. Can you describe it in a nutshell, why it didn't work out for Democrats and where do they go from here?
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Mitch Landrieu
Well, I think that honestly, if you get, if you really narrow it down, the election, I believe, contrary to what people say it was about, I think it was about the cost of living and how much pressure working and middle class folks felt, notwithstanding the fact that the macro economy was good. We kept talking about the economy in macro, 16 million jobs, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But what they kept saying is, yeah, that's all great, but I'm not getting them. I'm not feeling the relief of the pressure and the public's inability. Now, Donald Trump, remember, snapped his fingers and said, hey, man, I'm King. Put me in there. On day one, I'm gonna show you what it's like. Listen, we've now been through all this stuff. Lots of executive orders waving that pen around. Gas is up, interest rates are up. Right. The stock market's down, unemployment's up. Eggs. I love eggs, by the way. I eat them every day.
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Jim Acosta
Me, too.
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Mitch Landrieu
And I think the chicken ought to be the national bird, but eggs are up. So it was about inflation, and it was also about immigration. And I think the Democrats, we really got to that immigration debate too late. Notwithstanding the fact. Let me say this, and I would offer this to people who will accuse me of being partisan here. Go back and look at Ronald Reagan's last speech to the country, the last one he gave, and it is about immigration. And so this has been a problem that's been going on for 30 years. And we as a country, meaning Congress and the president, whoever they may have been at any point in time, have not dealt with this issue. It's a solvable problem. It is a solvable problem. It's a policy problem, and it's a choice. So I would encourage Congress, even with this president, get in a room, figure out what the four or five big points are, and then let's get to it without demonizing human beings who in many instances are looking for dignity. You know, and Donald Trump has dehumanized people, and it's a dangerous pathway for us in America because we have seen throughout history what happens when we dehumanize other individuals of races, creeds, colors, religions, whether they're American citizens or whether they're not. And that dehumanization, as opposed to the issue of what's a legal entry, what's not a legal entry, and the mechanics of immigration, I think the Democrats relate to that. So inflation and immigration were the two. I think that there's a real opportunity in America to fix both of those problems if Congress can find a way to talk. But Donald Trump doesn't seem to want to get together. He just wants to talk because he believes division wins. I believe unity is better. That's just kind of where it is in its essence. And I think we have to choose as American citizens going forward what candidates we put up, what issues they talk about, what we demand of our elected officials. But I can tell you this. People don't really want to talk about all the big, big stuff. They want to talk about how my life is going to be better at my kitchen table, how I can put a roof over my head, how I can feed my kids, how I can do A little bit extra, maybe a little bit extra vacation, maybe I can get my kids lessons, et cetera, et cetera, without feeling like they have to make choices between bad and worse. They want to get to good and better.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah, I agree with you wholeheartedly on so much of that. It seems to me that is why this political environment we're in right now is so dangerous. Because if somebody like Donald Trump can just barely win an election, like you were saying a few moments ago on bread and butter issues, and then get in there and do all of these enormously destructive things, that means the Democrats have to kind of up their game a little bit and get back better at. And Mitch, are you thinking about this long term, like, where you're going to go next? Are you thinking 2026, 2028? I mean, because people like you and they like what you have to say. You speak real English, you know, the very Americans talk. Not the King's English. American English, Yeah.
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Mitch Landrieu
I mean, there's so many people that, that. That I've gotten to know that are so much smarter than me. They speak four or five languages. I can hardly speak English.
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Jim Acosta
Me, too.
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Mitch Landrieu
But, but, but listen, listen, Let me answer. You asked me a process question. I want to answer it for you. The Republicans have done a better job of creating an echo chamber between and amongst FOX and all these other groups that amplify themselves. We're behind on that. Okay, so that's a Democrat, Republican thing. But the American people eventually lose out if they don't have good media sources that they can trust Donald Trump, more so than anybody else that I know has caused the American people to doubt institutions that at some point in our lives, we actually thought we could rely on for truth and veracity, which we can't anymore. And American citizens, one and all, are gonna have to make a determination about whether they want division or whether they want unity, whether they feel like they can talk to the neighbor and get stuff done. Now, listen, as a mayor, let me try to separate this for people in Washington, which is mostly federal stuff. It's a certain world, but on the ground, where people live in cities across America, 30,000 cities and towns and communities. There are lots of examples of American citizens who don't necessarily like each other. Even in my family, I mean, Thanksgiving dinner at my house, I got eight brothers and sisters. We got 38 kids. I got 61 first cousins. It's a hellacious moment. But we all love each other. And even when we fight, we come back because we want to find each other again. We're going to have to make that decision. We're going to either fight and be separate. Are we going to find a way to come together with our differences and find common ground and move forward? That's the battle for the heart and soul of America. And I think that going forward in 2026, 2028, and by the way, in governor's races, congressional races, city council races, DA's races, who the head of the synagogue is, the mosque, the church, who the Pope's going to be, all that stuff is going to play into what kind of environment we find ourselves in. And I would just end with this so that we can put ourselves in a position of being able to have a choice between good and better, not bad and worse and unimaginable, which is where we are right now. We're in a hell of a mess and we got to get out of it.
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Jim Acosta
You're absolutely right. Those are some choices I think a lot of people can get on board with. Good or better. That sounds a lot better than what we're dealing with right now, which is pretty much neither one of those two things. But Mitch Landrieu, great to talk to you. Love that, that Cajun accent. I feel like I'm back in New Orleans, Mander's palace or, you know, one of those great restaurants down there. It's great to talk to you. Let's do it again soon.
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Mitch Landrieu
Great talking to you, too. And again, thanks. Thanks for your courage.
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Jim Acosta
Thank you so much. Really appreciate you what you do. Take care.
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Mitch Landrieu
All right.
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Jim Acosta
That's former mayor of New Orleans, Mitch Landrieu, worked in the Biden administration. I think he was pretty candid about some very important things, where things were with the Democratic Party in the previous campaign. You've heard a lot of Democrats talk about the immigration issue and how perhaps they could have handled that better. It sounds like Mitch Landrieu is one of those folks who believes that. I also thought it was interesting what he had to say about Mike Johnson, the speaker of the House, advising Republicans in the House to not have town halls. I believe the quote was he called that quote sissy stuff. So for folks out there who are perhaps think about clipping the show and putting that out there. That's Mitch Landrieu with some pretty strong fighting words there for Mike Johnson, the speaker of the House. Apparently they're getting ready to vote on this continuing resolution that would keep the government open, avert a government shutdown. And so I guess you're watching the Jim Acosta show. We've got live coverage right Now, I suppose you could call it as to what is going to happen next. But I'm going to talk to you in just a few moments about, you know, what, what's going to take place there. So we're going to keep our eyes on that. But in just a few moments, I have a special treat for everybody who is tuning into the Jim Acosta show here on this Friday TGIF edition of the Jim Acosta Show. You know, I've had a lot of heavy interviews, a lot of heavy subjects. We've been talking about a lot of heavy stuff since Donald Trump got back into the White House. I thought I would end the week with something a bit more light hearted, something a bit more fun. And that is basically what is going to lead me to my next guest. They are the Good Liars. For those of you guys out there who are on social media, you're on Instagram, you're on different platforms. The Good Liars, they're these two comedians who go around the country and just do lots of fun stuff. Sneaking up on Trump rallies, talking to folks at Trump rallies. I hope I'm saying their names correctly. Jason Selvig and Davram Steffler. I'm going to bring those guys on. I'm going to try to bring them in here into the Jim Acosta Show. It doesn't always work when I use the equipment, but I do my best. It's a noble effort on my part at all times. And we're going to try to get these guys in here because they're absolutely fantastic, absolutely hilarious. And we need to end the week with a couple of jokes and a couple of hearty horrors here if we can. There's. Okay, there's Jason right there. I'm sure I butchered your name. Jason. It's good to see you.
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Jason Selvig
Easy one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll correct it for Devram.
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Jim Acosta
Good for Devram.
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Jason Selvig
And usually people either get zero percent of it right or 50 of it right. So I think we're at zero. I think you're at zero percent.
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Jim Acosta
I'm batting, I'm not even batting close to a thousand on this. So what did we, what did we do for Devram? Because I know we were talking earlier about how he, we were going to get him on the show. What, what handle were we going to use for him?
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Jason Selvig
Was it Devram? S. I believe it is. And I can get out of here.
- [29:14]
Jim Acosta
S. Let's see here. What did we come up with for Devram? Because we got to, we can't have Just one of the good liars. We have to have both of the good liars on here. See here? Stand by for just a moment, everybody. Do not touch that dial.
- [29:38]
Jason Selvig
I can vampire for a second if you want. I can do.
- [29:42]
Jim Acosta
No, He's Davron. He's Davron1. That's what it is. Dobrom1. Did I go away for a second or did I stay on screen? I just wanted to double check there.
- [29:49]
Jason Selvig
You went away for one second there. It was just me. It was just me.
- [29:53]
Jim Acosta
It was just you. Okay.
- [29:54]
Jason Selvig
Yeah.
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Jim Acosta
All right, stand by. We're bringing in Davron one. And. Yeah, you gotta. Somebody just said a few moments ago, two liars are better than one. Aha. I see the third. There it is right there. As I've said many times, never let the correspondent or the anchor touch the equipment, which is what I'm doing right now. But we got you both in here, guys. Welcome. And Jason, I got your name right? Davron. Excuse me, but do you go by dav or is it Davram or. Please, I only watch and laugh when you guys are on my phone. I. But I don't know how to say your name.
- [30:29]
Davram Steffler
No, that's fine. I go by Devram. But I got a song called literally everything you could possibly imagine, and I've gone by all of it, so that.
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Jim Acosta
Goes for me, too. Thank you for doing this, guys, both of you. Really appreciate it. I may interrupt with some breaking news, my feeble attempt at continuing to do breaking news if the CR Thing passes. But speaking of the hijinks up on Capitol Hill, let's just jump right into it. These are the good liars. And, you know, you guys were up on Capitol Hill, what, a week ago or so when Trump was doing a speech to the joint session of Congress. And, Jason, you were, I think, like, within arm's length of Elon Musk, who is. I mean, he's not the most hated man in America, Maybe the second most hated man in America right now.
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Jason Selvig
I don't know. It's a tight race there.
- [31:22]
Jim Acosta
Yeah, he did wear a suit, which we have to give him credit for that. But what was that encounter like? Because, I mean, when I saw that, I was like, oh, my. First of all, I was like, hats off to these guys. You guys find yourselves in, like, the funniest situations, but tell us about it.
- [31:36]
Jason Selvig
Well, I was there and was. They can make you. I don't know if you've been inside there for the joint session, but they make you take your cell phone. They take your cell phone Away. I couldn't even wear my Apple watch. And I was kind of in there by myself, alone with my thoughts, and then saw Elon Musk come in. And we talked about this on our podcast. But I was kind of thinking for a second, like, well, we're kind of in the same boat right now. You know, like, we're both in all of the governments here. We're in the same place. It may be a dangerous place to be. You know, somebody doesn't like the US and we both don't have cell phones. We both have to, like, be alone with our thoughts. And then about two minutes after that, I saw him take out his cell phone and start filming everything. And I was like, oh, so the, the rules are a little bit different for him.
- [32:23]
Jim Acosta
So he had the cell phone.
- [32:24]
Jason Selvig
He had a cell phone. He had a cell phone.
- [32:26]
Mitch Landrieu
Yeah.
- [32:27]
Jim Acosta
You know, this guy, he does. Doesn't play by the rules, does he?
- [32:30]
Jason Selvig
Doesn't play by the rules.
- [32:31]
Davram Steffler
And I kind of billionaires for you.
- [32:34]
Jim Acosta
Oh, yeah, that's true. He's the richest man in the world.
- [32:36]
Jason Selvig
Yeah, richest man on earth. You can get away with a couple things. So I was sitting there, I was kind of like, made a split second decision. I'm never probably going to be in the same room as Elon Musk again. I got to go up and say something to him. And we weren't filming it. Usually we're filming this. We've got up sound and all this stuff when you go and talk to important people.
- [32:54]
Jim Acosta
Yeah.
- [32:54]
Jason Selvig
And I just decided I was just going to go up and. And talk to him and just tell him to do good and do good, like try and do good things with his money, you know, solve problems that are facing this. That would be nice right now instead of destroying our government and firing everybody. So I took the opportunity. Like, I'm thinking back on it, I keep thinking back. I'm like, I wish I did something very funny, but it's like if you tell a joke in the woods and no one's there to hear it, it. Does it really exist? So I was. I was happy I did something. I think that was better than nothing, but.
- [33:27]
Jim Acosta
Well, that's good. No, I mean, it sounds like you were being a human being first, which, you know, I mean, you know, perish the thought. But I mean, to me, you know, it is. If you don't laugh, you'll cry, I suppose. But what Elon Musk has been doing, I mean, it is sort of begging for comedy. It's kind of begging for it. I mean, it's just, you know, somebody needs to poke some fun at this guy. What do you make of this, guys? I mean, what Elon Musk has been doing over the last month and a half or so, it's just been unbelievable.
- [34:00]
Davram Steffler
It has been. We were talking about it just yesterday. It's like, you know, donate $300 million to get your candidate elected. You know, be given this immense power in the federal government, watch your own, you know, net worth plummet, watch a car commercial for your car in front of the White House, donate $100 million more dollars, and then here you are. So it's kind of just been this, this weird cycle of like ultra wealth, you know, equating to ultra relevance and involvement in the government. And those, those things are just kind of feeding themselves. So it's begging for comedy. And Jason, you said you, you probably will never be allowed in the same room as him again. But it's probably because of White. What? That was probably on you, right?
- [34:47]
Jim Acosta
That's because of Jason's fabulous. It's because of Jason's fabulous hair. Let's face it. I mean, honestly, look at this.
- [34:52]
Jason Selvig
I was looking at this before I.
- [34:53]
Jim Acosta
Got, I thought I had grown mine out.
- [34:55]
Jason Selvig
Holy crazier than usual.
- [34:58]
Jim Acosta
Yeah, it's good looking hair, man. It's good looking hair.
- [35:01]
Jason Selvig
I appreciate this. I was like, oh, it sounds like my, the trolls in my comment right now. I'm getting it.
- [35:05]
Jim Acosta
No, no, honestly. Well, this is the beauty of doing this show is you get the comments as we speak. I think somebody was just saying a few moments ago, can you please be funny? But anyway, no, we will, we will.
- [35:17]
Jason Selvig
What's funny right now?
- [35:18]
Jim Acosta
How are we going to know that was going to give me my next point? Because one of the things that you guys are also known for is going to the Trump rallies. And not necessarily, do we say, poking fun at the Trump supporters, revealing what some of the absurd things that they say. But one of you guys were talking to somebody the other day outside one of these Trump events and you were getting, you were talking to them about how he wants to be a king or he's talked about being a king, and the lady said something along the lines of, well, he's the king of the presidency or something. Well, how did that go?
- [35:50]
Mitch Landrieu
What happened?
- [35:51]
Davram Steffler
Well, so we went to CPAC and we just decided we would talk to people kind of coming in and out, and that's what it was.
- [35:58]
Jim Acosta
Cpac. Yeah.
- [35:59]
Davram Steffler
And you know, Donald Trump had just posted on Truth Social, you know, various things about being the king. I Think a fake cover of Time magazine where he had a crown on and all that stuff. And so we were just asking people, you know, do you think he, what did you think about that as an American? Or, you know, we fought a war over not having a king. What did you think about Donald Trump kind of proclaiming himself king? Yeah, and people loved it. And they loved it. I think that video, if it goes on longer, one of the people says, oh, I hope he runs for, you know, eight terms. I hope he serves eight terms. But also, we don't want a king. But also he must have meant he's like the king, like Elvis is the king, like the king of rock and roll. He's just the king of presidency. So I think how she phrases the king of presidency. But then just in case there's like any doubt, I said, did you have any problem with that, being an American? And she goes, no, no, no. He's. He's our king. Unbelievable. The king of the presidency, letting people.
- [37:02]
Jim Acosta
Talk, which makes perfect sense from a constitutional standpoint. But the thing that I always find funny with these bits, and you guys post them on YouTube, you post them on all kinds of places and feel free to talk about all the different places where you post this stuff. But you're sort of poking fun at a lot of the hypocrisy because obviously if Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton or Kamala Harris, if she had pronounced herself queen during the campaign or said, I'm going to be a dictator for the day, I'm going to be a queen on day one, people would have the Trump side. They would have absolutely lost their frigging minds. And yet you go talk to Trump supporters and they're like, oh, I hope he runs for eight terms.
- [37:45]
Jason Selvig
Yeah, yeah. It's like, it's a weird thing with it, you know, when we go and we talk to people, like, it's a lot of just like asking questions. And then that's true. You do know what, like, you just. Because if you ingest any, like right wing media, you know what the answers are going to be and you kind of know how to frame it where you can have a follow up, where, you know, hopefully somebody will have a second where they think about things or double down, which is usually what happens. Like, we, we like to think that we've changed some minds, but we've run into some people, like at other events, like after it, and they have definitely not changed their mind most of the time. Like, most of the time people have like doubled down on it.
- [38:22]
Jim Acosta
Is there a Standout moment where you. Where you just, like they just totally blew your mind, where they've just said something that's so absurd or so crazy and you're just thinking to yourself, you've just made my brain explode with what you just said, sir.
- [38:37]
Mitch Landrieu
Or Matt.
- [38:38]
Davram Steffler
I think.
- [38:38]
Jason Selvig
I think it was in 2022. We were in Ohio and I was talking to a woman and she was talking about how Joe Biden wasn't really president. And I think the theory was that Joe Biden, like, was in Guantanamo Bay or something. And I was like, well, who is Joe Biden? And she said, well, it's an actor playing. Playing the part, wearing a mask. And they said it was Jim Carrey who was playing Joe Biden. And that was a moment where it was like a truly authentic. Like. What? Wait, what? Jim Carrey.
- [39:11]
Mitch Landrieu
Wow.
- [39:11]
Jason Selvig
And then she went on to be.
- [39:12]
Davram Steffler
Like she had some. Some evidence. Right?
- [39:14]
Jason Selvig
Yes. Yeah. When she. When Joe Biden was walking up the stairs and fell down several times, not because he was very old, but because that was really Jim Carrey doing a joke, being funny to let.
- [39:27]
Davram Steffler
With his physical comedy. That could only have been Jim Carrey.
- [39:31]
Jason Selvig
Yeah.
- [39:32]
Jim Acosta
Wow.
- [39:32]
Davram Steffler
That was the evidence. Yeah. Yeah. The other time, I think it's fair to say, we went to the Flat Earth convention and it turned out real.
- [39:42]
Jim Acosta
A real one?
- [39:43]
Davram Steffler
A real one, yeah. Called Flatoberfest. So you would have thought there would have been beer. No, it's a. It's a. It's a fine pun if you serve beer there. But they. They didn't. It was just Flatoberfest because it was in October and basically, you know, the. The Venn diagram was all. Almost all, you know, Trump supporters and Flat Earthers. And I would say almost every conversation blew our minds. It was, you know, everything. Every conspiracy under the sun was believed.
- [40:15]
Jim Acosta
And there are people that really believe the Earth is flat. Because I hear this and I'm thinking to myself, no, this is complete. This is completely like a satire or, or they're just pulling my leg here. But it's.
- [40:27]
Davram Steffler
No, this is very specific. A lot of people will say the Earth is flat. And if you go far enough out, There is a 200 foot wall of ice, which is the Antarctica.
- [40:35]
Jim Acosta
Yeah.
- [40:36]
Davram Steffler
And it's actually a circle around the flat earth that the government is protecting. They don't want us to get outside of that.
- [40:43]
Jason Selvig
And that. I agree with that.
- [40:44]
Jim Acosta
Was this a lightly attended convention or were there.
- [40:47]
Davram Steffler
No, they were filling up the room. Right, Jason?
- [40:50]
Jason Selvig
I mean, there was like, probably like three or 400 people there three or 400 people.
- [40:55]
Davram Steffler
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [40:56]
Jason Selvig
No, it's a big deal. This is a big deal in the flat earth community. One guy told me that the every, that this, that every single person has their own son and that the son that I see is different than the son that you see. And then he, like. This was one of the only times, I guess the Jim Carrey one too, where it like almost broke me, where I was like, wait a second, how is that possible? And then he ended it with and the sun is cold. And I was like, okay, all right.
- [41:22]
Davram Steffler
All right, I'm done, I'm done.
- [41:25]
Jason Selvig
I'm done here. I got nothing.
- [41:26]
Davram Steffler
I got. And I have to say, about two minutes into walking into the conference room, we're trying to just get our bearings. We're really not sure, you know, how many people are here to just experience this. How many people actually believe it? What are, you know, we're watching speakers and she says, how many people in the audience drink their own pee? You raise their hand and about 65% of the room, 70% of the room raise their hand. So.
- [41:51]
Jim Acosta
Hold on a second.
- [41:54]
Davram Steffler
Wait, wait. Have a sip. What is that?
- [41:56]
Jason Selvig
Have a sip.
- [41:56]
Jim Acosta
I got.
- [41:57]
Jason Selvig
I, I wait.
- [41:58]
Davram Steffler
What is that?
- [41:59]
Jim Acosta
Water?
- [42:02]
Davram Steffler
Enjoy.
- [42:02]
Jason Selvig
Yeah.
- [42:03]
Jim Acosta
Oh, wow.
- [42:05]
Mitch Landrieu
Yeah.
- [42:05]
Davram Steffler
That, that Mind blowing moments.
- [42:08]
Jason Selvig
It's great. You gotta, you gotta check it out. Flat Toberfest. If you're Flat Tober Fest off the Las Vegas strip in Las Vegas.
- [42:15]
Jim Acosta
Well, I, I suppose if you were drinking your own pee, you might believe that the earth is flat. I mean, if you do that too long, you know, it's gonna have.
- [42:22]
Jason Selvig
The effects are gonna happen on your brain.
- [42:24]
Davram Steffler
You're gonna have a casino at Flatober Festival if you start doing that.
- [42:29]
Jim Acosta
I, I suppose, you know, if you're like in, in the desert somewhere and you might die, you know, drinking one's pee, I suppose is like one of the. At least I read that somewhere. I don't.
- [42:39]
Jason Selvig
So here's the headline. Drinking your own pee is. Okay, great.
- [42:45]
Jim Acosta
Wait a minute. What have I done here?
- [42:47]
Jason Selvig
Hold on.
- [42:47]
Jim Acosta
We'll edit this out. That's. This is not going to make the final. Oh, wait, we're live.
- [42:51]
Davram Steffler
Oh.
- [42:54]
Jim Acosta
So do you have hope for this country after doing all.
- [43:01]
Davram Steffler
That'S what I.
- [43:02]
Jim Acosta
Thought I, I had Mitch Landrieu on and Mitch Lander is like, jim, we gotta have hope. And we're gonna do this, we're gonna do that. And you guys are like, no, we're. We're completely fine.
- [43:12]
Davram Steffler
We go, Is it fair to say, Jason, we go back and Forth a little bit. I mean, sometimes we talk to people. A lot of the people are. Are certainly not bad people, if not. If not misinformed, but, like, happy people wanting to be part of something bigger than themselves. You can kind of relate to that. I think if a Democrat could really get a hold of. Of some of the emotions of people in this country and do what Trump has done on the other side, that some people could peel off and there could be, you know, some hope. But then you go to one of these things, nine out of 10 people say that Donald Trump should be the king, and you lose. You lose a little bit of hope. You lose a little bit.
- [43:50]
Jason Selvig
Yeah, it gets. It gets. It does wear. It wore on us a little bit before the election, being like, man, we are. And actually, like, we went all over the country. We're in swing states all the time. And it was very clear to us that Trump was going to win. And it felt like we, like, knew something. Like, we knew a secret that. That we were watching the news and we were like, oh, the tolls are neck and neck. And we're like, I think, no, I think Trump's gonna win. Like, just everything we'd seen on the ground, not just the Trump rallies, but, like, talking to Uber drivers, just talking to, like, people at restaurants and things like that. So it. It does wear on you a little bit. I. I'm. I. I see these new polls, and I'm like, maybe something's cracking here, but also, we might be, like, taking over Canada and Greenland, and this could be a whole new authoritarian regime right now. So I don't know. I don't know. So I'm gonna say no.
- [44:39]
Davram Steffler
No.
- [44:40]
Jim Acosta
Screw optimism.
- [44:42]
Davram Steffler
Two takeaways from this sub stack. Live drinking tea and no optimism.
- [44:48]
Jim Acosta
No. And invading places like Canada and Greenland. We're sort of running out of places to go if we do want to flee this country. But is there an assignment that you guys want to have? I mean, have you tried to go into the White House? Can you get a White House press credential? I kind of see you going to the briefing room and asking Caroline Levitt some questions, because that, to me, is a deep and rich source of comedic material for you guys, for both of you.
- [45:14]
Davram Steffler
We would love, love to do that. We've applied for some credentials a few times. Not gotten them. But another. Another one, now that you bring it up, is we kind of do want to go to Greenland. We've been talking about that for a little while. You know, we kind of want to figure out what people There think and then see the takeover if it happens. I did talk to a Trump supporter inauguration who described exactly how the takeover would happen. And he said that Donald Trump would just show up in person and say usa and that would be it. Like he would cast a spell and that would. The Greenland would now belong to the United States.
- [45:47]
Jim Acosta
Why don't you guys could go to Greenland and just proclaim it for yourselves. I mean if he can do it, you know, it could be like the.
- [45:55]
Jason Selvig
Kingdom of the Good Liars. Yeah, Kingdom of Good Liars.
- [45:57]
Jim Acosta
Oh, I got some.
- [45:59]
Jason Selvig
Just offering some free material.
- [46:00]
Davram Steffler
Yeah, yeah, that's great. I don't mind that. I don't mind that.
- [46:04]
Jason Selvig
All right, good, good.
- [46:05]
Davram Steffler
They have all those rare earth metals Donald Trump talks so much about. So I, I want, I want those two. I don't know why, but I want them.
- [46:13]
Jason Selvig
There you go.
- [46:13]
Jim Acosta
There you go. Well, gentlemen, I really love your stuff out there. Where. So where can we find the Good Liars? You're on basically every platform. If you, if you have an app on your phone, you can watch it there.
- [46:25]
Jason Selvig
Yeah, yeah. We're @TGL NYC on Instagram. Every place else it's the Good Liars. Subscribe here on Substack. We're gonna have some new fun stuff here. You can also support us if you love. Like to do that on Herohero. It's Herohero. Co. The Good Liars and yeah, check us out. Keep, keep watching. Hopefully we can bring a little laughter to this. These dark times.
- [46:49]
Davram Steffler
Question mark.
- [46:50]
Jason Selvig
Question mark.
- [46:51]
Jim Acosta
Question mark.
- [46:52]
Jason Selvig
Yeah, we're. Yeah, yeah.
- [46:54]
Jim Acosta
As we go off the edge of Flat Earth altogether.
- [46:57]
Davram Steffler
Right?
- [46:58]
Jason Selvig
That could be the next.
- [46:59]
Davram Steffler
Yeah, we are all standing on the abyss right now.
- [47:01]
Jason Selvig
It feels like I just, just was thinking that at the Flat Earth convention. Everyone hated Elon Musk there, which was a funny thing, right? Because he's going to space and space.
- [47:10]
Davram Steffler
Isn'T real, so his pictures must be fabricated. He's part of the conspiracy. Good, good memory, man. That you gotta. We need to go back. We have to.
- [47:21]
Jim Acosta
Sounds like we all need to go back. Maybe Flat Earth is where it's at. You know, maybe different beverage choices perhaps.
- [47:27]
Davram Steffler
Yeah, that's where it's at. That's what they're saying there too.
- [47:31]
Jim Acosta
Guys, great to talk to you. Really appreciate it. Everybody check out the Good Liars. Let's do this again soon.
- [47:37]
Jason Selvig
Yes, please.
- [47:37]
Davram Steffler
Absolutely.
- [47:38]
Jim Acosta
At some point I'll figure out how to roll some footage. We'll try to roll some footage and it'll be a much more official TV show. This Is. This is me just kind of winging and just doing what I can.
- [47:47]
Davram Steffler
We love it.
- [47:47]
Jim Acosta
Love what you do.
- [47:48]
Davram Steffler
Happy to be here.
- [47:49]
Jim Acosta
Thanks, guys.
- [47:49]
Jason Selvig
Thanks.
- [47:50]
Jim Acosta
Have a good weekend. Appreciate it.
- [47:51]
Jason Selvig
Take care.
- [47:52]
Jim Acosta
The Good Liars, everybody. They were great. You got Jason's hair there. One last second. One last look at Jason's hair. He was amazing as well. I mean, honestly, guys, I. I kind of felt like I needed that. And Catherine Valentine over at Substack, she reached out to me the other day, and she's like, jim, you need to have the Good Liars on. I'm like, yes, I need to have the Good Liars on, because if I don't laugh, I'm just gonna. It's just gonna get worse and worse. They were absolutely hilarious. And, you know, I just want to end the week by telling everybody once again how appreciative I am. I was talking to a reporter earlier today about how the show is going. The show is going tremendously well. I couldn't be more tickled with everybody tuning in on an almost daily basis. I'm not doing it every day. And somebody was just asking me, where's Duke? Okay. I. I'm in California right now. I have. I was at a conference, and then afterwards, I came up to wine country to hang out with my sister and my niece and their dog, Oreo, who is here right now.
- [48:54]
Mitch Landrieu
I don't even know.
- [48:55]
Jim Acosta
Can I get. Is Oreo going to be a camera shy? I'm still on right now. Where's Oreo? Maybe I could bring an Oreo. Oreo, where'd you go, buddy? Oreo. I was gonna end the show with maybe a little doggy action here.
- [49:11]
Mitch Landrieu
Oreo, where are you, buddy?
- [49:12]
Jim Acosta
Come here, baby. Where'd you go?
- [49:14]
Jason Selvig
Oreo?
- [49:15]
Jim Acosta
Over here, over here.
- [49:17]
Mitch Landrieu
Hi, Buddy.
- [49:18]
Jim Acosta
Hi. Hi. There's Oreo.
- [49:20]
Mitch Landrieu
Hi, Oreo.
- [49:21]
Jim Acosta
Come here. Well, his tail wagged me. He hit me for a second there. All right. It's just so everybody was, oh, biscuits, biscuits. Here we go. Oreo. How about a biscuit? You want a biscuit? Want a biscuit? Come over here. Come over here, Oreo. Oreo. Right here. Right here, buddy. Right here. Can you come up here? Can you get up here? There's Oreo right here. Hi. There he is. Can you. Can you. Can you eat the cookie and everybody can see you? There you go. There's Oreos. They saw us. Little name for a second there. Camera shy puppy. Come over here. Come over here. Can you come up here? Can you come over here? Can you come up here? Right here. What you think There he is. Well, somebody chimed in and said Duke is going to be jealous. He might be slightly jealous because all of my clothes smell like Oreo now, which is totally fine. He's a beautiful black lab. He has a wonderful life here in California. There you go. Waggle, waggle, waggle. Anyway, thanks, everybody, for watching. It's been a great week. My thanks to Mitch Landrieu and the Good Liars. They were. They were great tv. What else can I say? Great podcast fodder. And just want to say I'll see you guys next week. Got some good guests in store for next week. Won't give it all away at this point. Still working on the town hall thing. This effort to get a town hall going somehow involves my mom, so I need to talk to mom this weekend because I just won't explain it because I don't want to put too much pressure on here, but I've got to talk to her as well. But, everybody, thanks so much for watching Oreo. Oh, Oreo's coming back in here. He wants more cookies. Is that what it is? You want more cookies? I'm so sorry. I'm all out. All right, thanks, everybody, for watching. Have a great weekend. See you next time on the Jim Acosta Show. Take care.
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Mitch Landrieu
Bye.