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Olivia Troye and Michael Cohen weigh in on Trump's call for deportations of US citizens to El Salvador's prison.
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Jim Acosta
Hey, everybody, welcome to the Jim Acosta show. It is Monday and a lot of Monday madness with Donald Trump to say the least. As you can see, Olivia Troy joining me on the program, Michael Cohen for Michael Monday. Coming up a little later, we're going to be talking about our live town hall coming up Tuesday evening in New York City. Olivia will be there, we're hoping, we're praying. We'll be sending a limo, we'll be sending, you know, carriage and white horses, whatever it takes. Career pigeons are fine, all of those things.
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Olivia Troy
Yeah.
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Jim Acosta
But we'll talk about all that a little bit later because I definitely want to get to Michael and we'll discuss that as well. We've got some great guests lined up. It's going to be a lot of fun. We're also going to get into some very serious stuff because I mean, there's some really serious stuff flying around today. And I mean, I'm just going to start it with this sentence, quote, the homegrowns are next. The that is a quote from Donald Trump. Trump is looking to expand his program of deportations in this country. He's considering the idea of sending US Citizens to what critics have described as a modern day gulag in Central America, also known as the Seekot prison for terrorists and gang members as that country describes him in El Salvador. Consider what Trump said in the Oval Office earlier today with the president of El Salvador. Trump told reporters he's contemplating the idea of deporting US Citizens to this prison in El Salvador if they've committed certain crimes. He cited acts of violence. But Olivia, you heard this. He seemed to leave the idea open ended, adding he wants the White House to look into the prospect. And this is the quote. He said the homegrowns are next. Mediaite was reporting this. Those are the chilling words uttered by Trump to El Salvador's President Bukele surreptitiously captured in a casual over Oval Office conversation before the White House pool entered. Aaron Rupar captured it. Jonathan Lemire shared it. But I mean these comments are very chilling because it wasn't just the moment that Aaron Rupar captured. Trump was being asked about this as well by a reporter and he sort of played with this idea that if people are committing certain crimes, if they've been convicted of committing certain crimes, that they might get sent out of this country to this modern day gulag. Olivia, just downright chilling.
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Olivia Troy
Yeah. And a gulag that is in a country that is known for human rights abuses in these types of detention facilities. And I just question where is the sort of the human rights approach to this, of what's going to happen if we're just going to disappear people into foreign nation facilities with no oversight? And I say this as someone, by the way, little known fact, who worked on Guantanamo Bay issues many years ago. And it really is reminiscent of sort of remembering what happened there, the stain that it was, I would say, in America in many ways. And now we're going to be sending American citizens everywhere. And, you know, they already tried to send people to Gitmo. They're looking at building out facilities there. And I already had concerns about that. But watching the press conference today in the Oval and hearing that type of language, first of all, who's going to define the homegrown? Right, right. I mean, that was my first question is who's defining this? And when he says that it's going to be Pam Bondi and doj. Well, what. And Cash Patel at the FBI, like, what kind of confidence do I have in terms of how they're going to make these definitions? And it's really just, you know, it's very Putinesque is what I would say. Yeah, that's what it reminded me of. It was very reminiscent of that in terms of how they're going to go about this. And like, Jim, I don't have any. I don't have any doubt that they will carry this to fruition. I think this is all part of a greater strategy and we should be very concerned, which is why I'm very concerned about when they're taking immigrants off the streets and they're sending them away like this. We should all be concerned because it's really just one step closer to Trump's strategy of silencing dissent, controlling everything, and operating outside of the law and norms. Right. Because that's really what this is.
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Michael Cohen
Yeah.
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Jim Acosta
I mean, Trump said he wanted to be a dictator on day one. He lied, as it turns out, he wanted to be a dictator on day two, day three, and all the days after that. I mean, he continues to talk in that fashion. He continues to sound like an authoritarian leader, like an autocrat. And the question, as you put it, Olivia, and I think one of the viewers who just chimed in with a question put it, where is Congress? Where is the speaker? Where is the Senate Majority leader, John Thune? In what world do we live in where they are not saying, no, Mr. President, that is not acceptable? I mean, I just, you know, you and I have had lots of conversations about this because I just can't imagine any judge in this country or the Supreme Court just having the audacity to go along with Trump and these kinds of plans. But my goodness, we really can't say that nothing is possible these days because he absolutely seems to want to do these things. And what is cecot? The Washington Post wrote about this. Little is known about the inmates held at cecot, an isolated mega prison in the town of tocaluca. At least 60,000 alleged gang members were arrested in El Salvador during rapid construction, according to the Associated Press. And then there was a human rights observer, Ana Maria Mendez Dardone, the director for Central America at the Washington office of Latin America. She said this to the Washington Post. We don't know how many of these men have been charged or convicted with crimes, if they have access to a lawyer or if they have been or will be presented in front of a judge. And, Olivia, I mean, what's scary about this is that when you have the President of the United States saying, okay, well, maybe we'll just start outsourcing, you know, the, you know, deportations and prisoners that we don't want in this country down to El Salvador, it sounds like in El Salvador, there isn't the same kind of constitutional process, same kind of due process that we have here.
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Olivia Troy
That's exactly it. I mean, we are basically deferring our judicial system and our due process, and we're outsourcing it overseas. And I can tell you that was quite clever. I mean, that is a classic Stephen Miller special, especially when it came to this individual that we have no idea if this man is ever going to see his family again. Right. That, to me, is heartbreaking. And I think, you know, I think this was what the plan was all along, Jim, is I think, you know, they don't really think that the law applies to them. And I think that they think that they can just kind of skirt around it. And so now, you know, we've got the Supreme Court weighed in on this individual. But what they did is they used the Oval Office, they used a foreign leader to come in who already behaves in a dictatorial fashion. Right? That's what, that's what the president of El Salvador is known for in terms of what's happening in his own country. And of course, they knew what the outcome was going to be. But, yes, the combination of that, combined with the mention that American citizens possibly could be going to these facilities. And, you know, I mean, Trump basically said it out loud, right? Because he always says what he's going to do out loud. He doesn't keep. He doesn't hold secrets very well, he tells us. And he did say he's like, you know, you're going to need to build five more of these.
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Jim Acosta
That's right.
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Michael Cohen
He did it.
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Jim Acosta
He also said that, too. He was very specific. I like to say, for as dishonest as he is, he can be remarkably candid. And that was one of those moments. And I mean, some of this centered around, I mean, this came up because the president of El Salvador and Trump both basically said that they had no basis for El Salvador to return. Kilmar Abrego Garcia, the Maryland man who was wrongly deported there last month. So Bukele is saying, no, I'm not sending him back. The Trump administration is basically thumbing its nose at the judge for saying no, he has to come back. And I mean, the Supreme Court has weighed on in on all of this. And so Trump is now openly defying the judicial system. And there doesn't seem to be any recourse. It just seems to be he's just going to do this and keep tempting the courts to do something about it.
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Olivia Troy
I think that's the point, too. It's pushing the boundaries, right? Because, okay, what can we get away with this time? We pushed it. We're going to get away with this. And I think that is the whole point, is that I think that that is what they're testing out. And so what's the next test? And I think you're incredibly like, you're correct. And people watching right now are correct. Where is Congress on this? Are we a nation of laws? Are Republicans just going to stand there and say, well, we're going to let him get away with it because we're going to support him no matter what he does, even though it really is eroding at one of the main pillars of what we stand for as a country. And where does it end? Where does it stop?
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Jim Acosta
No, you're absolutely right. And I know, Olivia, you and I were talking about some of this offline the other day. We made plans to talk about this on the show. We'll talk about it tomorrow night in New York. But the situation regarding Miles Taylor and Chris Krebs. We saw Trump last week. Maybe he was trying to distract everybody from the way he was handling and mishandling the tariffs and, you know, threatening to blow up the global financial system. But he signed these executive orders. He announced that he's going to have the Justice Department go after Miles Taylor and Chris Krebs. I know you worked with Miles during the first Trump administration. Miles, of course, wrote that famous op ed saying that he's inside the Trump administration, acting as sort of like the resistance. And then he wrote that book, a Warning, which was warning about all of the things that were being done inside the Trump White House. And then really, all Chris Krebs did. He was in charge of CISA over at the Department of Homeland Security, the cybersecurity office over there. He basically came out after the 2020 election and said that the, the election of 2020 was just fine and that that pissed off Trump enough when he became Persona non grata. And I know you were upset about this. I was upset about this because this, this was, again, this was Don. And it fits in with what we're talking about today. It's Donald Trump going, talking about going after private citizens of the United States, United States citizens, simply for getting in his crosshairs and saying something that he doesn't like. And you and I are both upset about it because it just enough coverage. This should have, this should have been headlined Washington Post, New York Times, every evening newscast. But because we're all sipping from this fire hose of bullshit these days, you know, this kind of stuff gets buried, and it's just, it shouldn't happen. No.
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Olivia Troy
And, you know, Donald Trump, on the very first day that he entered his second term in office, signed that executive order which was all pomp and circumstance and projection of ending the weaponization of the federal government. Remember that? And so I think this is the exact weaponization of the federal government that we are watching, where he is directing the Department of Justice to conduct these investigations against two Republican. I want to say that, again, Republican officials who served in his administration and very loyally until the end, like, until all this goes down, when they realize, like, when they have an obligation to uphold the Constitution. Two, all they did was tell the truth. And, you know, Chris Krebs, he was doing his job. That's what he was doing. And the President fired him via tweet. I think people have forgotten that piece of it. And so now here we are, five years later, and I think Trump is still litigating the 2020 election. I guess he's forgotten that he's back in office. He doesn't seem to really kind of embrace that. It's like, okay, you won. You're back in there and you're still upset and mad at 2020. And so I was just. I think what I found so upsetting about this is that that was clearly pomp and circumstance and theatrics in the Oval Office to silence people it was to send a message. And it was scary, Jim, because I was. I actually got a text and they said, turn on Fox News right now. And I did turn it on. And part of it, I have to be honest, I was waiting. I was like, okay, is my name next? Like, who's next on this? And this isn't normal. I mean, this is clearly an attempt to use the Department of Justice. I mean, it's very broad, the way they worded it in this. And also really disturbing that the president used the word treason. And he said it during the press conference when it came to Miles Taylor.
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Jim Acosta
That what's the treason?
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Olivia Troy
I'd love to know what's the treason? Yeah, I guess. And that, I think, to me was. Was something that we cannot let go under the radar because this was a big deal, because this was Trump really formally taking a step on retribution. Right. And he's doing it again, by the way. He's right now starting to go after cbs. He's going after the media. This is another step in retribution. And I think we just need to watch this very closely. And I'm waiting to see what they do next on these eos with Chris Grubbs and Miles Taylor. And I can tell you, I am so heartbroken for their families and the toll that it takes on that. And then I'm looking around and saying, well, I hope that there are still lawyers out there that are going to help and stand up for individuals when Trump does this, because that's why he went after the law firms first. Right. I mean, this is all one big thing.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah. I mean, you know, you said a couple of things that I want to play off of. One is, I mean, for all of the talk that people in the media or the Democrats can't get over the 2020 election in January 6th, I'm sorry, that's bullshit. It's Donald Trump. Donald Trump is the one who can't get over the 2020 election, that he lost the 2020 election and that he incited an insurrection on January 6th. He is responsible for that. He is responsible for, you know, all of those things because he could not accept the loss that he sustained in that election. And, you know, the problem that I have with all of this, Olivia, is, you know, and I think you touched on this earlier, is that it sounds as though. I mean, he's back in the White House like you said, so one would think he should get over this, but it sounds as though he's somehow so damaged as a person that this is. It's haunting him, it's, it's like, it's that expression about living rent free in his head. Miles and Chris Krebs must live rent free in his head. The President of the United States, it can't afford to have that kind of stuff going on, those kinds of squirrels running around in his head. I mean, the President of the United States needs to be able to make decisions, run the country, run the government. You can't be worried about going after your enemies, real and imagined. And that's the thing that concerns me almost more than anything. I mean, the part that we can pick people up off the streets or put them under investigation and so on, to punish them and go after them, that's obviously very worrisome. But I mean, this is the guy who has the nuclear suitcase, the nuclear football. Yeah. And, and he, he, he just. There's something wrong there. Yeah.
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Olivia Troy
And he's using the tower of the Oval Office and every executive level lever that he has. Right. To possibly go after his critics. And I think, you know, they could have done a private letter, they could have done an investigation letter. They could have issued that. They could have done it silently. But no, he chose to have this moment in the Oval, have this press conference where they're reading it out loud, talking about both individuals. I mean, it was, it was all taken on purpose. Right. And so it was shocking, to be honest. I mean, the second I started watching it, I was like, here we go. And the President of the United States is holding a press conference right now talking about critics. And I think it really is meant to continue the pattern of silencing dissent. That's what it is. The next day, no reporter asked him. Right. I was reading, I was like, can somebody please ask him?
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Jim Acosta
And I remember you were upset about that. I mean, it's just, as I said in my social media post, and I said on the show, it's just downright un American when he's done with Miles and Chris. But you mentioned the CBS thing, and this falls right in with what you were just saying. You know, Trump railed against CBS on Sunday night, according to Hill, saying the network should lose its broadcast license after 60 Minutes aired segments on Ukraine and Greenland that the President said cast him in a negative light. He said on Truth Social they should lose their license. Hopefully the sec, as headed by its highly respected chairman, Brendan Carr, will impose the maximum fines and punishment, which is substantial, for their unlawful and illegal behavior. CBS is out of control, blah, blah, blah. I mean, here's the concern that I have is that CBS apparently is in talks to negotiate a settlement with Trump. And this goes back to what I've said time and again, and I know you feel the same way. You can't bend the knee. You can't bow down to the tyrant. It just. It just gives him more ammunition. It just feeds these voices in his head, and it has to stop. I mean, we're starting to see some people say, no, we're not going to go along with this, but we're seeing major institutions going along with this. And I just think it's just. It's going to make matters worse, unfortunately.
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Olivia Troy
No, you're absolutely right. I think it just enables him, and it also gives him. It's sort of. It fueled his ego and this inner circle that's surrounding him, enabling him and allowing him to do these things. And so I think when people are bending the knee and when they're giving into his demands, it's just another step, another gain for him. And that is why it's so upsetting to watch organizations like this sort of try to figure out, well, if I negotiate now, I'll get back in the good graces and then it'll shift. But guess what? He doesn't stop going after you. Right. Even when you make changes, he's not going to change. It really is about full control. It's about controlling everything. And that is the sort of authoritarian impulse of Donald Trump, is that it really is about controlling every lever of the government and society and all the messaging and the strategy on it that goes along with it.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah. I mean, and he's mad about. With Chris and Miles. He's mad about things that have happened four, five, six years ago. I mean, it's incredible. And, Olivia, it just worries me to no end. And, you know, there's also some of the absurdities of all this, too. I mean, the president of El Salvador wasn't wearing a suit in the Oval Office. I mean, where were the questions about his suit? You know, there weren't. You know, it just, you know, some of this is absurd, and I get that it's absurd, but. And I hate to, you know, go down the path of saying, oh, you know, Trump is scary. And what he's saying is frightening because I think that's what he wants. But he is taking things to a level that I don't think he even did during his first term.
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Olivia Troy
No, I think this is way worse. I think that the first term was a practice run, and I think what they're doing now, like I said before, is that they are going to continue to push the boundaries. And this is a group of people that I have heard directly, firsthand say that we'll let the law catch up to us, just do it, and we'll keep going. And so it is disturbing in situations like we saw today, where the law is there and the law has come through and it has ruled and it is standing there and it is trying to hold the line and they found a way to skirt around the law and they're just going to continue moving forward. And I think when we see executive orders like the ones he issued last week, what he's doing with cbs, I think it should not go unnoticed. And I think we have an obligation to talk to each other and tell your neighbors and explain to them what's going on, because there's a lot of people that really don't understand still the magnitude of what these executive orders on Miles Taylor mean, what it could mean. Because if you don't think that it can happen to you someday, it's likely going to. If we continue down this path, because we're either a country that still believes in our constitution, the freedom of speech, are we still into free speech, or is it free speech only for certain people now? And we're going to silence the rest. And so I think we're going to continue to see these, these tests for our country.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah, no, I mean, CBS has a right to free speech. And I hope, I mean, things are not resolved in that area. So I hope that they'll hang tough and not give in here. We talked a little bit about, we sort of hinted at Zelensky there a little bit. I mean, Trump again accused Zelensky of starting the war with Russia. That was the other outrageous thing that he did earlier today. There's so many outrageous things, it's hard to get to them all. But I know you've also, you know, as a former national security advisor, the vice president, I mean, this is, I mean, again, I think it goes back a little bit to what you're saying about free speech and so on. It's only free speech if it agrees with his points of view and what goes on inside his head. And he is trying to gaslight everybody about Ukraine. And it's astounding to me that he keeps saying that Ukraine started this war, which is straight up Putin talking points.
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Olivia Troy
Yeah, it's delivering Russian propaganda in the Oval Office. What better megaphone for Putin? I mean, he's got a direct microphone with someone delivering it to Americans in this way. And that is incredibly disturbing to many of us who worked in national security, who've been watching this for a long time because this is Putin's dream to have that. And that is what's happening here. I mean, there's no other way to say it because it's the truth. He is really lying to Americans. And this is going to get distributed and it's going to be distributed in right wing media and I'm sure Fox News is talking about it. This is really upsetting to watch once again. And I hope that people call him out again. I know my former boss, Mike Pence has called him out on it. He's like, no, that's not, that's not what happened. This is not accurate. And so I think that's what needs to continue to be done. But I think we are watching just another erosion of national security, foreign policy and, you know, just another thing. And you know, going back to cbs, I mean, when they're talking about Ukraine, they're telling the truth. They're talking about Greenland, they're just talking.
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Jim Acosta
About, they're doing the news. Yeah.
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Olivia Troy
They're doing facts about telling the truth. And, and that's what Chris Krebs did. That's what Miles Taylor did. And there are others who have since substantiated the claims that Miles made, people who lived it, people who are in the room like myself and others. And so, I mean, this is truth tellers. And Donald Trump does not like it when people tell facts and truth that are not in line with his version of what is facts and truth. And again, very similar to what people like Putin do. And it's just so linear now and it's upsetting and I think it's going to continue. Something else will happen this week or next week and they're just going to keep chipping away and it's up to us to take a stand. And I'm watching congressional leaders and seeing like, are you just going to let these people get away with it?
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Jim Acosta
Yeah. I mean, and there's a through line here. I absolutely think there's a through line here between, you know, these lawsuits against these media organizations, what he did with Miles and Chris and this, you know, these comments that he made in the Oval Office today contemplating the idea of deporting US Citizens to a prison in El Salvador. He, he uses these examples of, well, if somebody hits an elderly woman over the head with a baseball bat, he talks about those types of things. But you have to wonder to whom else would this apply? Where, you know, who, who, who else would fall into the category of people that Trump would want to send off to this place. And, you know, somebody was asking earlier, Olivia, during the comments when you were speaking, who is going to stand up Trump? Who is going to stop Trump? And, you know, my attitude has been, and I've been talking about this, and I know you feel the way the same way. It's all of us. It's all of us working together collectively. It's all of us speaking out collectively. That's why I'm doing this show. That's why we're doing this town hall tomorrow night in New York City. It's sold out. Tickets were free, but we've, we've given them all out. And I know you're going to be there, but I mean, Michael's going to be there. I'm going to talk to Michael in just a few moments. And, you know, that's what this is all about. It's about all of us coming together and saying, this ain't going to fly, man. You know, you could, you could try to do this, but we're going to stop you. We're going to stand in your way. We're going to say, no, that's not right. That's not who we are.
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Olivia Troy
Yeah. And I think it's going to take all of us, and it's going to take. When people take actions on a certain person or population that it doesn't impact you. You still have to stand. You have to take a stand because it's really about the greater rule of law and what it means as a target people individually and organizations. And what are we going to do to take a stand together? And it's rare and we have to be loud, I can tell you. And you know this, I think they were hoping that that Oval Office action with my former colleagues and people that I know well, who are my friends, would silence me. And I'm only going to get louder because I think it's important to stand up for each other.
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Jim Acosta
Absolutely. And, you know, it really seems he's leaning on Stephen Miller quite a bit, doesn't he? Really seems.
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Olivia Troy
I always said that should he return to the Oval Office, Stephen Miller would be the mastermind. And it certainly seems to be playing that way between him and Rust Vote and the enablers that they have placed in these agencies. He really is sort of the person pulling the levers. And I saw it today. I mean, I watched that press conference and I was like, he is celebrating right now. It enraged me, I'm going to be honest with you. Because he doesn't have people internally now that are guardrails that are trying to sort of control, like, what is happening here and trying to follow the law that is. That is no longer there. Right. I mean, for the, for the. For the most part. From what.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah, he seemed to be. He seemed to be speaking to Stephen during that availability, that press availability with Bukele. He kept referring to Stephen. I think that's what it sounded like to me.
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Olivia Troy
Yeah.
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Jim Acosta
And you're right. It's almost. He's almost becoming like a Bannon or Karl Rove type. I mean, that, you know, is he more powerful than Susie Wiles? It almost sounds like he is.
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Olivia Troy
Absolutely. Oh, yes. I guarantee you if one of them was going to go or get fired, it will be her before him. He has been in the inner circle. He has attempted these things before. I can tell you that directly, having lived this with Stephen Miller and navigated him in these situations, he has attempted some of these things. Some of these discussions were had during the first term, but he was not able to push the needle and the boundaries of it as much because there were people in place and there were lawyers in place who were like, no, that's not going to fly. We're not even going to attempt that. Sometimes his enablers in this inner circle would be there and they would say, well, we'll just let the law catch up with us, like I've said. But this is a classic Stephen Miller move, and it should worry us because I think there are a lot more to come on this strategy. And it is, Honestly, it's Project 2025 in full implementation. It really is. I mean, you can go through. You can look at chapters in. There it is. I mean, it is. There it is, the footprint in the playbook.
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Jim Acosta
No, it's so true. And we talked about this during the campaign. I think you and I talked about this a number of times. And, you know, you go through Project 2025, and it's all pretty. Pretty much laid out chapter and verse. Everything that they wanted to do during the campaign that Trump went out there and denied he wanted to do, he said he had nothing to do with it. And then as soon as they get into office, they put Roosevelt in charge of omb, and then they just go right about, you know, right into implementing all of these things from one page to the next. It's really, It's. It's wild.
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Olivia Troy
Yeah. And Russ has all the lines, right? That's the thing. He has all the budgetary lines. He really, really knows the government and everything that there is to it.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah, they have the true believers in there this time, they don't have the folks like yourself, the folks like Miles who are behind the scenes saying, you know, what about the law? What about the Constitution? Let me get back to you. I want to talk to the vice president about this. Yeah. Nobody's minding the store.
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Olivia Troy
No. And there are conversations about, like, how do we get around this situation and how do we get to the president, explain to him these things. And I don't think that that's happening along. And, you know, Donald Trump, when he has these enablers, they appeal to his worst. His worst tendencies. And I think power also gets to people. Right, Jim? Is a lot of it.
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Jim Acosta
Absolutely.
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Olivia Troy
And I think absolute power. We're seeing it. We're seeing. We saw it in the signal gate. We saw it in others where they start to get overzealous. And we can see when power, sort of craven power in people's heads gets to them, and they stopped making these rational decisions, and they think that they're unstoppable.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah.
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Olivia Troy
But.
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Jim Acosta
Well, Olivia. Yeah. And lots more to talk about tomorrow evening. I'm so excited you're going to be a part of this. I have to send. I'm gonna send maybe a helicopter to get you. I will figure out. We'll figure out a way to get you up to New York. Planes, trains and automobiles. But hopefully it won't be too. You know, save your receipts and send them to me if you need me to. But always appreciate talking to you and thank you for what you do. There are so many people who have chimed in and thanked you time and again. Thank you for what you do, Olivia. That's one reason why I wanted to have you there, because everybody is so appreciative of what you've done, your voice, and it means a lot to all of us.
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Olivia Troy
Yeah. And I think the message to thank you all back is that we're only as strong as, like, the fact that you have our backs and remember that. And that is why it's important to talk about what happened to Chris Krebs and Miles Taylor and others, because it's important to let people know that you're there and that we're not alone and that you're going to be there when these things happen.
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Jim Acosta
Thanks, Olivia. Appreciate it.
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Olivia Troy
Thanks.
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Jim Acosta
All right, see you tomorrow. Thanks a lot. Bye, everyone. All right, take care. The wonderful Olivia Troy. Hey, let's go right to Michael Cohen. It's a Michael Monday, as. As we all like to say, and we're gonna preview what's gonna be taking place tomorrow night. I want to get Michael's take on everything that's transpired today. Hey, Michael, how are you?
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Michael Cohen
Jim, how are you, my brother?
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Jim Acosta
Good, good. You know, let's just jump right into it.
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Michael Cohen
Listening. I was listening to go for you, obviously, you know, you. And listen, Olivia is phenomenal, and she's 100% right. We can't forget about people like Miles Taylor or Chris Krebs.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah.
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Michael Cohen
The same way I was begging America, don't forget about me.
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Jim Acosta
Yes.
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Michael Cohen
Don't forget that I was there. I was the litmus test. And I know, I know better than anyone. Not because I'm smarter than anyone, not because I'm clairvoyant. I'm not. Like who? What's his name? The Great Karnak.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah.
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Michael Cohen
I don't.
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Jim Acosta
Johnny Carson.
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Michael Cohen
Yeah, right. Johnny Carson. I don't have. I don't have some swami hat with a crystal ball. It's simply because I lived it. And I don't want to see what happened to me happened to Miles Taylor or Chris Krebs. I don't want to see it in fact happen to anyone Republican, Democrat or Independent. But here's the sad part. It's going to happen because they control the full levers of government from the White House to the Supreme Court to the Senate to the House.
- [32:08]
Jim Acosta
Michael, when you heard Trump say today he would like to send US Citizens down to El Salvador, that didn't surprise you?
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Michael Cohen
No. But what I'll tell you, the only thing that I was happy to hear him say, believe it or not, was it'll be violent criminals.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah, I heard him say that.
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Michael Cohen
Who beats somebody over the head or rape an 80 year old. I don't even know what he thinks.
- [32:33]
Jim Acosta
Where does he think of this stuff? I don't know where. It's so strange. It's disturbing. Why are these violent thoughts in his head?
- [32:41]
Michael Cohen
I don't know. I mean, does he think that that's what America is? That America is this sort of, you know, what was it? Escape from New York?
- [32:50]
Jim Acosta
Yes. Nate Plissken or whatever.
- [32:52]
Michael Cohen
Right. In that everybody's running around and everybody's got a gun. Everybody's looking to rape somebody and beat them over the head with a baseball bat. I mean, this I know.
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Jim Acosta
I just took my dog for a walk. It's 75 degrees in D.C. it's beautiful. Nothing's happening. Everybody's just having a nice time. Crime is at one of its lowest levels in a generation in this country. And yes, we have upticks in crime. It happened after Covid and so on. But this idea that we have to round people up and send them to El Salvador for these fictitious crimes that he's just concocting in his brain, it's, it's, it is disturbing. But it makes me wonder, Michael, what's next? I mean, he's talking about going after people like Chris Krebs and Miles Taylor and sending the DOJ after them.
- [33:35]
Michael Cohen
They're in big trouble. And you know what? I'm certain that this is going to be an issue that comes up tomorrow at our town hall.
- [33:42]
Jim Acosta
Oh, absolutely.
- [33:43]
Michael Cohen
That Olivia is going to be there because she also like myself. I know Miles very well and I like him. And he's impressive as he. As a young man, you know, when I say young man, I'm talking about compared to me, as. I mean, I'm an altar cocker, you know. But I got to be honest with.
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Jim Acosta
You, you know, I'm almost there, too.
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Michael Cohen
I'm nervous for him, I really am, because I don't know whether or not it's going to be even worse for him than what government. When government wants you, I don't care who you are, I don't care how you think that you are above reproach. I've never done anything wrong in my life. Doesn't make a difference.
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Jim Acosta
And it sounds like the situation that you went through because you started to criticize Trump and you started to say things and then lo and behold, bing, bang, boom, Michael's. They're taking Michael away. They're raiding his apartment.
- [34:38]
Michael Cohen
So let me say this. It was actually before I was even critical of Trump. It was because the enablers back then and we have worse one now. But the enablers back then whispered into his ear, michael this, Michael that. You need to detach, you need to distract, you need to deflect, you need to throw him under the bus to protect yourself. And they kept doing it and kept doing it and kept doing it until ultimately it happened. And the best is when he turned around and he said he had his arms crossed at that big giant table.
- [35:15]
Jim Acosta
Right.
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Michael Cohen
Turn around. He goes, well, you know, I can't. It's disgusting what the FBI did. They raided one of my lawyers homes and law office. He goes, it's un American. I was like, serious. Now I'm just one of his lawyers. Yeah. Happened to be the lawyer that for over a decade you called every morning at 4:30 5:00 in the morning and at 11 or 11:30 at night. Don't tell me now, what's the matter? You forgot my name this is the problem. This is the problem. He throws you under the bus and then he moves on.
- [35:47]
Jim Acosta
And you know, the other thing, too is why is it that he's still thinking about Chris Krebs, who all he did was say that the 2020 election was okay. Why is he still thinking about Miles Taylor, who wrote this book in this op ed seven years ago? It's. It's strange.
- [36:04]
Michael Cohen
Well, because it's still an ongoing situation in his head. Remember that every single time he has a press conference, he'll always mention that he won the 2020 election, that it was rigged. He cannot let that go.
- [36:23]
Jim Acosta
But he's President.
- [36:24]
Michael Cohen
Krebs. I understand. You're thinking logically. He's thinking like a petulant child. I want it. Biden lost it. It was stolen from me.
- [36:37]
Jim Acosta
Yeah.
- [36:37]
Michael Cohen
Plain and simple.
- [36:40]
Jim Acosta
And Michael. But what about. But he's going after CBS too. I mean, it's, it, there's something unraveling here, it seems, because he's going out. He watches 60 Minutes. He explodes, his temper erupts. He gets on True Social. He instructs Brendan Carson at the FCC to go after 60 minutes. In CBS, you can't say anything critical. You can't raise questions about what he's doing.
- [37:03]
Michael Cohen
Let me.
- [37:03]
Jim Acosta
What is this, America?
- [37:06]
Michael Cohen
No.
- [37:06]
Jim Acosta
You should be able to say whatever you want about the president. Pretty much.
- [37:09]
Michael Cohen
Nope. And nope. That's not, that's not how it works in Trump's America. To those watching, to 6,000 folks, we need. We need 20,000 people watching. That's why I constantly say, like with tomorrow, make sure the substack. Make sure you share Jim Acosta show or watch it on the Real Michael Cohen. Make sure you watch it. And you tell others to watch it as well. And there's a reason why I keep saying this, because the only way to defeat Trump's America, which, by the way, looks eerily similar to Vladimir Putin's Russia. Right. Or that looks like Mohammed bin Salman Saudi Arabia or Kim Jong Un's North Korea.
- [37:55]
Jim Acosta
Right.
- [37:55]
Michael Cohen
Or President. What was his name? Burkle. The one that was there today. Right. From El Salvador.
- [38:01]
Jim Acosta
Yeah. He sounds like a dick. He sounds like a tin pot dictator.
- [38:05]
Michael Cohen
I mean, you go ahead and you criticize them. Remember what happened to Jamal Khashoggi? Remember what happened to, for example, remember what happened to Kim Jong Un's uncle? Remember what happened to Alexei Navalny? All right.
- [38:24]
Jim Acosta
Yeah.
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Michael Cohen
Let me be very clear. Trump is setting the parameters that you either, that you either it's kiss his ass or get your ass kicked. It's that simple. CBS will capitulate just as ABC did. This is the problem with mainstream media. This is the problem even with cable news media. They are more concerned about creating profit for their shareholders than they are about disseminating truth.
- [39:04]
Jim Acosta
Well, I tell you, that's why independent media is having a revolution in this country right now. That's why people are watching Michael, wherever he is when he does his show here on Substack and in other places. That's why people are gravitating over to Substack because they want to hear from independent voices. They're pissed about what's happening in the media right now, and people should be. And Michael, I mean, the other thing that we have to get to at some point in all of this is what is going to happen with. I mean, you and I were talking about the markets last week, and I hate to make a hard right turn here, but, I mean, it goes to his psyche. It goes to the way he acts, it goes to the way he leads. What is the point of all these tariffs that he's trying to put in place if he's gonna carve out all these exceptions? He put out an exception over the weekend for cell phones and for microchips. So, okay, so then Apple's stock takes off today. What's the point of having tariffs on China if you're gonna accept certain industries and so on? And he just seems to be going back and forth, right to left, up and down, side to side. He's all.
- [40:13]
Michael Cohen
It's called chaos. It's called. Literally. It's called governing via chaos. Yeah, I wrote about it. I wrote about it in my sub.
- [40:22]
Jim Acosta
That's true.
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Michael Cohen
You did?
- [40:23]
Jim Acosta
Yeah.
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Michael Cohen
I mean, this is what. This is what they do. You see, the end game is not about the tariffs. They may tell you that it is, but it's not.
- [40:34]
Jim Acosta
Yeah.
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Michael Cohen
The end game is Trump remaining in power ad infinitum. That's what it's all about. So I'm going to distract you. Think of it as a magician. Right. You know the old coin that you used to do to a child? You take your coin, you put it in your hand. You know which hand is poof. It's not in either. Right. Because it's already down your sleeve. It's called distraction.
- [40:57]
Jim Acosta
Yeah.
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Michael Cohen
He's distracting the American people from the big picture. And what's the big picture? Complete and total control over government. It's exactly what we had said before. It's what I've been yelling about. Jim, you and I talked about.
- [41:13]
Jim Acosta
I Know if he came back in office years ago. Yeah.
- [41:16]
Michael Cohen
Five years ago. And then again at the dnc, when I said he has every intention. And when I say Donald, let me be very clear. And I want all of our. All of our followers to understand this something that most people miss. This is not about just Donald Trump. And it's not only Donald Trump, it's all of these enablers that are around him.
- [41:40]
Jim Acosta
Yeah.
- [41:41]
Michael Cohen
These enablers see a benefit for themselves to turn America into an oligarchy where they like. What we have in Russia, all right, are the oligarchs. They are the senators of Rome, and that's what they want to be. And they're willing to rip up the fucking consulate constitution. They're willing to trample on it for their own egos, for their own financial benefit. And the funny thing, too, the people who are these enablers, Jim, they have more money than they can spend in 100 lifetimes. So what do they need? Another airplane? Let me go one step further. Did you even hear today that I believe that they are trying to reaffirm the old IRS code where you could depreciate your purchase of an aircraft in year one.
- [42:31]
Jim Acosta
I mean, I'm sure everybody's lining up. All of these industries are lining up, and they've learned the lesson. If they just humiliate themselves for a little bit, if they bend over, they bow down, kiss the ring, kiss, whatever, they'll get these kinds of little special handouts. And, I mean, this is what Alexei Navalny was warning about in Russia. This is why he became the viral Internet sensation that he did on all these different platforms before. What happened to him in Russia? Because, you know, he. This is. This is the kind of corruption that eats away at a democracy and just basically turns one man into a dictator. And that's the. That's the stuff that we all have to worry about. And Michael is very much going to be on our mind tomorrow night. And I'm glad we have the lineup that we have. I have it right here. Here it is, the no Fear tour. Here it is, me and Michael at the top. We got Don Lemon coming. Don is. You know, he's. He's. He's a national treasure, and he knows how to call it out. We got Harry Dunn, we got Tara Sett Meyer, we got Olivia Troy. And then there's one other guy in here. I think he's a friend of ours. As a matter of fact, his name is Matt Friend, and he is the best impressionist when it comes to Donald Trump.
- [43:37]
Michael Cohen
Maybe next to Michael, he's like the Richard Little of our time.
- [43:41]
Jim Acosta
He really is. He's incredible.
- [43:43]
Michael Cohen
He's funny as hell. You know, I remember when I had met him about a year. Year and a half ago, I said to him, sometimes do you forget what your own voice sounds like? Because he. And it was funny. He was trying to imitate my voice. Just like Ben Stiller, who I've known for, like, 25 years. You know, Ben Stiller. I got it.
- [44:00]
Jim Acosta
I got to think Ben can do a good Michael Cohen.
- [44:01]
Michael Cohen
Nah, nah. He tries. He tries, but it's. It's. It's not. It's not good. He goes, I need. I need practice.
- [44:07]
Jim Acosta
And that's close, but no cigar. I've been working on mine, too, but maybe we'll. Maybe we'll bust that out tomorrow night. But, you know, but the other thing is to get serious for a moment, then we'll go back and we'll have some fun. I'm glad we have Olivia there, because Olivia lived through this. You lived through this. Tara Suttmeyer, you know, she was a Republican aide up on Capitol Hill for many years. She can speak to the fact that you have members of Congress, they're just. Where is their spine? Where is their backbone? Why aren't they standing up when you have the President of the United States talking about taking Americans off the street, deporting them to El Salvador? Are you kidding me? What is happening? Why aren't. And so Tara can speak to that. We have Harry, who obviously lived through what took place on January 16th on.
- [44:49]
Michael Cohen
That stage, at one point or another, in some way, shape, or form, had experienced some sort of a kick in the. You know, kick in the ass with, as they say, steel tip boots from this Trump administration in one way, shape, or form.
- [45:08]
Jim Acosta
Correct.
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Michael Cohen
I believe mine wasn't to the ass. Mine was right. Was right to the groin. Right? Yeah. I mean, who else, not once but twice gets incarcerated, in all fairness, for another guy getting his pecker pulled by a porn star? I mean, let's be. Let's be real about the entire thing. And tomorrow's gonna be great because there's no holding back, you know?
- [45:29]
Jim Acosta
Yeah. This is some of the. This is some of the Vegas ACT material folks will get tomorrow night, but just a sneak preview there. But, yeah, you know, one of the.
- [45:36]
Michael Cohen
Things that I had said, you know, what we are is raw and unfiltered. And that's the beauty of Substack. That's the beauty of the Jim Acosta show. That's the beauty of my shows. I Don't have to hold back.
- [45:51]
Jim Acosta
Yeah. That's why it says no fear. That's why it says right here, no fear. The no fear tour.
- [45:56]
Michael Cohen
Now, you, you just answered, by the way, your own question. You asked, why are these Republican Congress members, these senators, these governors, why are they spineless? Why are they feckless? Yeah, Fear. Fear. That's what he's instilling. You know, let me give you the example. You know, think about, for example, the canine program that the military use, that police use, that they used in World War II, right there in the concentration camps, the German Shepherds and so that are fierce. Fierce. The fear of being bit and mauled by a dog kept people in line, knowing that they were marching to their own deaths.
- [46:47]
Jim Acosta
Yeah.
- [46:47]
Michael Cohen
Trump is basically treating all of his enablers, whether it's the Elon Musk's, the Lutniks, the Besants, the Pam Bondi's, the Marco Rubios, whomever, like canines, like fierce canines.
- [47:05]
Jim Acosta
And these are the people who are going to sic on you. These are the people who are going to come after you if you don't bow down and praise the Dear Leader. But, you know, but Michael, it's a good group, but we're going to try to have a little fun, too. Matt Friend's going to be there. Don Lemon's going to be there. I mean, Don, Don is, you know, he's at a class by himself. And I'm, I'm really pleased that we've got this lineup. It's going to be a lot of fun. It's gonna, I mean, we're gonna, we're gonna get serious. And somebody was just saying earlier, what's the strategy? We were going to talk strategy. We're going to talk about all these things. We're going to get people's questions, we're going to stream it out live. If you've got thoughts, you've got comments, you've got questions, you can submit those. We're going to try to get as many of those out to everybody as we, as we possibly can. But, but, Michael, this is, this is something that's long overdue. You and I talked about this, what, one or two months ago or something.
- [47:55]
Michael Cohen
Like that, and even longer than that, before we were both even on substack.
- [47:59]
Jim Acosta
Yeah.
- [47:59]
Michael Cohen
To those of my subscribers, those that follow me, make sure you follow Jim Acosta, too. And please, by the way, if you're part of Jim's group, please follow me as well. Why? Why? Let me, let me. I say this all the time. And I mean it. Do you remember during the mortgage crisis, you remember that there was like a trillion dollars lost in the marketplace?
- [48:23]
Jim Acosta
Oh, yeah.
- [48:25]
Michael Cohen
Not a single banker, not a single banker was held accountable.
- [48:31]
Jim Acosta
Yeah.
- [48:31]
Michael Cohen
And there's been books written about this all over the place. It's called too big to fail. It's an adage that everybody here has absolutely heard of at least once in their life. Too big to fail.
- [48:44]
Jim Acosta
Yeah.
- [48:45]
Michael Cohen
My, my desire, along with gyms together, is to build a community so fucking big that we cannot be ignored. That when we roll up, it's like the mob on steroids. That we're dead serious.
- [49:05]
Jim Acosta
Yeah, no, I hear you.
- [49:06]
Michael Cohen
That we roll up with such fire and fury so fierce as an army of voters. An army of voters is more powerful than an army with their ars.
- [49:20]
Jim Acosta
Yeah.
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Michael Cohen
Remember that. All right.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah. Well, I've been talking about this for a while and you and I have talked about this, but it's about people power. It's about the power of the people standing together and just insisting on this country not going down the tubes. I mean, that's what we're talking about here. And you know, there are folks who've been asking questions. Am I going to be able to live stream it? Yes, you're going to be able to live stream. We're going to get you those details.
- [49:41]
Michael Cohen
At 6pm Eastern Standard Time. To those of you magas that are trying to troll us, that's 3:00 your time in Pacific.
- [49:50]
Jim Acosta
Exactly. And, and the other thing too is it's going to be recorded and it's also going to go into our recordings. And so you'll be able to watch it on Michael's. If you, if you're following Michael's, you're subscribing to Michael, you can watch it on his, you can watch it on mine. There be multiple platforms out on YouTube. We're going to make sure everybody can see it after it goes into record mode. But we're hoping to get a lot of people watching live.
- [50:13]
Michael Cohen
Yeah, I mean, I truly want to have more people with us watching this live. Then watch the Super Bowl. Imagine the message that something like in.
- [50:24]
Jim Acosta
Our minds, we hope that.
- [50:25]
Michael Cohen
But yeah, and look, I'm not, I'm not here to piss on Bernie and AOC Parade. I give them both tremendous, tremendous for what they are doing. But I do want to say this to our followers and I want to tell you what makes us different. They speak to the same people that both Jim and I saw and met with and shook hands with and spoke to at the dnc. These people are already all in on the Democratic platform. That's not who we're going after. Our goal is to go after the independent, the silent majority, the 2 million plus people who decided to vote the opposite direction, believing for whatever the reason may be, believing that Donald J. Trump was the better choice over Kamala Harris. That to me, is the person I want to talk to. That's right.
- [51:31]
Jim Acosta
We don't want to just. That's right. We don't want to just be in our own echo chamber. That's what the other side does. We don't want to do that. We want to reach Democrats, of course, independents, people who think that voting doesn't matter, doesn't count. Why throw my vote away? Blah, blah, blah. We want those folks too. Obviously we want Republicans. I mean, look at Olivia Troy, who's coming. Look at Tara Settmeier, who's coming. Anybody who cares about this country. That's who we want involved. That's we want watching. That's we want participating. So if you can't be there in person, you can send in your question, send in your comment. We're going to try to as much as possible incorporate that into the show.
- [52:08]
Michael Cohen
Yeah, I mean, I don't want this. And neither does Jim. Neither of us want this to. This isn't an anti Trump town hall. It is not. What this is, is a pro democracy, pro constitution town hall whereby what what the GOP is doing. And when I say the gop, the Donald Trump is not the gop, he may be its leader, but there are too many enablers there that are giving him that boost up. What we don't want, not today, not tomorrow or ever, is to let them sit back there numb and feckless and worthless and limpless and lifeless, doing what saying to their dear leader. Sure, yeah, it doesn't matter.
- [52:57]
Jim Acosta
That's right.
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Michael Cohen
If they violate Michael Cohen's constitutional right. It doesn't bother me if they violate Jim Acosta or Chris Kreg's or Miles Taylor's First Amendment constitutional right or any American who disagrees with his platform.
- [53:14]
Jim Acosta
Yeah, well, and the other thing too is, and Michael, you and I have talked about this, is we want to say thank you to all of the people who have been subscribing and that's why we open the tickets up to the town hall to our paid subscribers first, the folks who leave those comments every day, we appreciate them very much and we're going to continue to do that as much as we possibly can, show our appreciation to you. The subscriber, for tuning in, for doing what you do to support what we do here in independent media. It's vitally important. Michael, you and I have been talking about 30 minutes, I've been talking about an hour here, including my conversation with Olivia. You didn't see a bunch of damn ads, you know, here and there, all over the place here on Substack. And, you know, so we want to say thank you to the folks out there who have been so nice to, you know, participate and also support what we do.
- [54:05]
Michael Cohen
Right. And it's true, by the way, you know, one of the things that I truly have spent a lot of time today on, and I wake up very, very early. I have, as you know, I've talked about it multiple times and in different places. I have terrible ptsd, sleeping nearly an impossibility to sleep straight through the night. I talk a lot of it to Lev Parnas, by the way, because he sort of experienced on a smaller level, the same sort of.
- [54:36]
Jim Acosta
Oh, I get it.
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Michael Cohen
And I did.
- [54:37]
Jim Acosta
I get it. I get it.
- [54:39]
Michael Cohen
I've had, I've been working on a statement and obviously I'm looking forward very much, Jim, for yours tomorrow, you know, because I think it's the right way to start, you know, this town hall. I want you to understand where Jim and I are coming from. This is not about us individually. This is about us collectively. Again, the goal is to build an army. And when I mean an army, I'm not talking about even a million people or two. I'm talking like a 10, 20, 50 million person army that when again, so big we are, are, we are voting warriors so that all of this bullshit. Let me tell you the reason why this is so important. And I can't stress it enough. When you think of political campaigns, what does everybody think of, Jim? Donations. That's all. They, you know, as soon as they fuck up, the first thing they're doing is they're sending you a text message. Oh, my God, the Republicans are doing X, Y and z. Send me $15, then $25. Fuck you, right? I tell you, I tell you what, fuck you. I mean, that old playbook doesn't work anymore. But imagine, imagine an army of 50 million voters turning around. Well, we change the outcome of the election. And by the way, there are plenty of Democrats who I wish to God, I wish to God would either retire. There are plenty that have just come in.
- [56:23]
Jim Acosta
Well, we'll probably get into that too. We'll probably get into that too, Michael, because it's on a lot of People's minds right now. I mean, I. I talked to a couple of authors of a book last week who wrote about, you know, I don't want to go down that road again. But, like, maybe we wouldn't be in the jam that we're in right now as a country wondering if our financial system is going to, you know, go over a cliff if, you know, if certain folks have decided to pack it in instead of insisting on running for a second term. All right, I'm gonna hold this up one more time. Here's. Here it is again. The no Fear tour. Yes, I will post this. Somebody said, will you post that again? Yes, we'll post it again. And here are the folks.
- [56:57]
Michael Cohen
I know the reason you want Jim to post this. You can get my picture. Trust me.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah, I know. They're all gonna copy and paste your picture. Michael Cohen's picture is now going to be in everybody's phone, which is. That was probably the ulterior motive in the whole thing, but that's.
- [57:12]
Michael Cohen
I think you're right.
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Jim Acosta
No Photoshopping here, too. This is exact. You see, Michael in person. This is exactly what he looks like at all times. So.
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Michael Cohen
Yeah, by the way, that was taken. Not even by me. That was taken when I went to the grand opening. I went to the premiere of the movie the Apprentice.
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Jim Acosta
Is that why it's. Is that why you prefer that we use that photo? That makes perfect sense.
- [57:34]
Michael Cohen
It's one. That's high definition. And I did shows better. That's the only reason.
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Jim Acosta
Yeah. Well, Michael, I'm looking forward to seeing tomorrow.
- [57:40]
Michael Cohen
I'm gonna give you. Next time. I'm gonna give you my high school. My high school graduation. That's what we should do when I'm rock solid benching like, 295.
- [57:49]
Jim Acosta
295. Man, oh, man. All right, I. I gotta see that. I'm. I'm guessing it's maybe a little less than that now.
- [57:56]
Michael Cohen
Yeah. And my hair was nice and dark and pretty puffy.
- [57:59]
Jim Acosta
I bet it was.
- [58:01]
Michael Cohen
Listen, in. In finality here, I want to as well just thank everybody and again, remind everyone, if you subscribe to mine, make sure you subscribe to Jim's. Jim's, make sure, vice versa, to mine. And please, do me a favor. Stay with us. Make sure that. Make sure that you join this army, this voting army, and make sure you tell at least one person to do the same. Imagine if each and every one of you got one person to join the substack army. We will be unstoppable in under three months.
- [58:36]
Jim Acosta
I mean, yeah, well, and we appreciate Substack for helping us sponsor this event as well. Michael, great to see you. Let's. We got to save some of this mojo. We got to save some of this energy for tomorrow night. We can't. You know, you gotta rest up, you gotta have a nice dinner, maybe have a little pasta tonight. I want Michael to get at least five hours of sleep tonight. Michael, you take good care of yourself this evening.
- [58:59]
Michael Cohen
I will see you tomorrow and I'm looking forward to it, brother. Thank you again to everybody.
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Jim Acosta
Thanks, Michael. All right, see you tomorrow. Okay. Okay. Well, here goes. Here goes nothing, everybody. That was Michael Cohen, another successful Michael Monday. And as Michael and I were saying, and I'll post this as soon as I can this evening. We, we believe all of these folks are coming. I'll be there, Michael, Be there. We think Don's going to be there. Harry Dunn, Tara Sett Meyer, Matt Friend, Olivia Troy. It's going to be a lot of fun. We're going to get serious. We're going to talk about a lot of serious subjects. We're going to hear from the folks in the audience. We're going to try to stream it all live out to the people out there and it's going to be hopefully a lot of fun. And it's also an opportunity, as I said earlier, to thank all of you for tuning in every day. All right. In the meantime, thank you everybody for watching. My thanks to Olivia Troy, of course, my thanks to Michael Cohen. Until tomorrow, I believe I will be doing this show live, the Jim Acasho live from Theater 555 in New York City in New York, New York, tomorrow afternoon at 4:00. And then we're going to open the doors at 5:30. If you don't have a ticket, please don't. As much as I love you, you can't come in. There's only a capacity there that we have to meet. But the doors open at 5:30. I believe the show is going to start around 6ish, and we're going to end around 7:30ish, something like that. And, but it'll be a lot of fun. We're looking forward to it. I hope you're looking forward to it as well. And of course we're going to do our damnedest to get it streamed out to you live and the recording so you can watch it later and everything else. But in the meantime, thanks everybody for watching. Still reporting from Washington, I'm Jim Acosta. Have a good evening everybody. Take care.