The Real Reason U.S. Wants To Crush Cuba! w/ Christian Parenti

Summary

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The Jimmy Dore Show | July 6, 2026

Episode: The Real Reason U.S. Wants To Crush Cuba!

Guest: Christian Parenti (Investigative Journalist, Professor)

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Jimmy Dore welcomes back Christian Parenti to discuss the motivations behind U.S. policy toward Cuba. Parenti elaborates on his recent article in Covert Action Magazine, arguing that Cuba’s real crime in the eyes of U.S. elites is its assertion of sovereignty and independence—rather than its socialist model, which has become increasingly capitalist. The episode then transitions to wide-ranging discussions on U.S. imperialism, the psychology and policy around vaccine mandates, and prominent cultural voices on the Israel-Palestine conflict, before ending with satirical commentary.

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Main Discussion: U.S.-Cuba Relations and Imperialism

The Real "Crime" of Cuba

• Sovereignty, Not Socialism ([01:19]–[04:34])
  • Parenti shares his thesis: “Cuba's most unforgivable crime is not even its socialism... but rather its sovereignty. Cuba’s persistent independence and oppositional survival... is an American imperial humiliation.”
  • He details Cuba's economic shift post-Soviet Union, with “55% of all retail private” and 1.6M out of 4M workers in the private economy.
  • U.S. policy blocks American firms from investing, while sanctions have driven out Canadian, Mexican, Spanish, and Italian businesses.
• Ongoing U.S. Hostility
  • Despite economic liberalization, the U.S. continues to sanction and attack Cuba, under both Democratic and Republican administrations.
  • Parenti: “It doesn’t matter how capitalist Cuba becomes. Cuba needs to be humiliated and destroyed for having dared to defy and defeat the CIA on numerous occasions.” ([06:09])

Cuba as a Symbol in the Global South ([06:34]–[07:42])

• Dore quotes Parenti: “Revolutionary Cuba’s mere existence threatens the cynicism, complacency, and defeatism that maintains imperial order at a global scale… As long as little Cuba... can govern itself, there will be dissidents... who will think, if Cuba can do it, maybe we can.”
• Motivation for U.S. hostility: Preventing a contagion of anti-imperialist spirit.

The CIA’s Vendetta and Cuban Intelligence Successes ([07:42]–[13:06])

• Historic CIA Defeats: Bay of Pigs; multiple operations in Africa; failed assassination attempts of Castro.
• Parenti recalls the episode of Juan Roca, a Cuban pilot who defected, infiltrated Miami exile circles as a “spy the whole time,” symbolizing Cuban intelligence successes and patriotic motivation:
  • “He doesn’t say, ‘I would never betray the revolution.’ He says, ‘I would never betray my country.’” ([13:03])
• U.S. still seeks vengeance: CIA chief John Ratcliffe’s recent demand to extradite Raul Castro (now 95) over 1992 shootdown of “Brothers to the Rescue” pilots ([13:09]).

Current Policy Dynamics: Sanctions, Oil Embargo, and Isolation ([15:04]–[18:36])

• Escalation under Trump:
  • Oil embargo cutting Cuba off from vital resources (needs 100K barrels/day, produces only 40K). Result: blackouts, collapsing healthcare, economic disaster.
  • Sanctions now enforced beyond U.S. citizens—pressuring Mexico, Spain, Venezuela, even amidst left-wing governments, to cut vital trade.
  • Sanction enforcement is real, not just for activists: “The sanctions against Cuba have been...activated. They come down on tourists who go to Cuba.” ([15:52])

Prospects for Normalization? ([19:00]–[22:04])

• Parenti: U.S. normalized with “old adversaries” like Vietnam and China who retained one-party rule but liberalized economically.
• But with Cuba, it’s different: “There's something special about Cuba.”
• The issue isn’t socialism, but “nationalism…sovereignty...a plucky little chip on the shoulder, you know, American hemisphere thing…” ([20:23])
• Cuban government shows no sign of returning to “de facto colony” status.

Military Threats & Final Assessment

• Dore: Would Trump really invade Cuba?
• Parenti: “The dangerous thing is, I think they might be [dumb enough].” Trump’s crisis-creation tendencies could lead to military escalation as a distraction ([22:04]).
• Genuine normalization would require U.S. acceptance of Cuban sovereignty, not just economic liberalization ([23:11]).

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Other Key Segments

The COVID-19 Narrative, Vaccine Critique, and “Load-Bearing Beliefs” ([29:57]–[44:37])

Tucker Carlson’s Claims ([29:57]–[33:12])

• Clip played from Tucker Carlson: The COVID vaccine “was probably the greatest crime ever committed”; “It didn’t work…it killed a ton of people”; “It does change your DNA, actually, that’s not a conspiracy theory.”
• Parenti/Dore panel respond by highlighting the depth of official narrative control and public compliance.

Why Most People Don’t Question the COVID Narrative

• Dore: Most Americans can't question these things because “their entire self-image would collapse.” These are “load bearing beliefs”—core to identity ([34:24], [34:37]).
• Kurt: “Just think of the shattering of your worldview...”
• Dore: “If they found out that everything they believed about COVID was a lie, then who are they as a person?”

Critique of Media, Pharma, and Science-as-Religion

• Media and science communication is driven by Big Pharma; medicine “100% corrupted by big pharma” ([38:48]–[39:30]).
• Science turned into religion, dissent becomes heresy, and figures like Dr. Fauci are elevated to deity status.
• Mask mandates and the "shifted goalposts" regarding vaccines are dissected and mocked ([40:15]–[41:47]).

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Satirical Take: Mayim Bialik, Israel-Palestine, and Victimhood Culture ([46:13]–[57:36])

Mayim Bialik and Zionism ([46:13]–[54:31])

• Jimmy and panel mock Bialik’s emotional account of encountering “Zionism is Racism” shirts at a vegan restaurant.
• Dore: Accuses Bialik of narcissism and deflection from real victims: “We do know you don’t care about a genocide, or other mothers having their kids slaughtered…” ([49:11]).
• Her own kids reportedly questioned her about caring for Palestinians: “I could tattoo it on my face but there’s going to be people who don’t care” ([49:47]).

Gaza and Western Hypocrisy

• The panel juxtaposes Bialik’s tears for being confronted with her lack of outrage for Gazan suffering, labeling her as emblematic of “demonic” moral inversion ([52:13]).
• Other references: Children’s pro-Israel propaganda books and AI targeting for assassination.

The Vegan Irony

• Dore: Calls out the irony of Bialik’s veganism paired with support (implicit or otherwise) for violence in Gaza: “If meat is murder, but not murdering that girl in the picture... That’s not murder. Really, go fuck yourself.” ([57:17])

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Notable Quotes

• Christian Parenti:

  • “It doesn’t matter how capitalist Cuba becomes. Cuba needs to be humiliated and destroyed for having dared to defy and defeat the CIA on numerous occasions.” ([06:09])
  • On Cuban pilot/spy: “He says, ‘I would never betray my country.’ And that gets at this question of sovereignty and patriotism…” ([13:03])

• Jimmy Dore:

  • “[Cuba’s] real crime according to your article... is sovereignty. Great article by the way. Everybody check it out at Covert Action Magazine.” ([25:15])
  • “If they found out that everything they believed about COVID was a lie, then who are they as a person?” ([43:02])
  • “Science works on questioning... They turned it into... if you question science, you’re a heretic and they turned people like Dr. Fauci into... deities.” ([37:47])

• Tucker Carlson (clip):

  • “The COVID Vax was the one that I’ve never gotten in my mind. I’ve never understood what that was about. There’d never been a coronavirus vax that had been successful… It was probably the greatest crime ever committed, honestly.” ([30:05])

• Kurt:

  • “You could already, just based on the one line from her [Bialik's] sons, you could tell, they’re like, ‘Oh, here we go again.’” ([51:19])

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

• Cuba/U.S. Imperialism
  • [01:19] — Introduction to Cuba’s “crime” of sovereignty
  • [06:34] — Cuba’s example and global south resistance
  • [07:42] — CIA vendetta; Cuban intelligence; Bay of Pigs
  • [15:02] — Trump administration oil embargo details
  • [19:00] — Prospects/obstacles to normalization
  • [22:04] — Military threats and strategic distraction
• COVID & Vaccine Skepticism
  • [29:57] — Tucker Carlson’s COVID vaccine monologue
  • [34:24] — The “load bearing beliefs” psychology
  • [38:48] — Corporate media and medical study corruption
• Mayim Bialik/Israel-Palestine
  • [46:13] — Mayim Bialik’s reaction to criticism; panel’s satire
  • [49:47] — Her kids’ skepticism; Bialik’s defensiveness
  • [53:06] — Satirical take on Western victimhood and Gaza

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Tone and Language

• Edgy, irreverent, satirical.
  • Dore and Parenti combine detailed policy critique with humor and sardonic asides.
• Direct Speaker Attribution maintained for quotes and arguments.

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Summary Flow

The episode begins with Parenti’s thorough, historically anchored analysis of why Cuba remains a U.S. target despite economic liberalization—focusing on sovereignty, psychological wounds from CIA defeats, and Cuba’s status as a global inspiration. The conversation shifts to the U.S. embargo’s current effects, wider themes of imperial vengeance, and the improbability (yet not impossibility) of normalization.

The second half pivots dramatically: Dore and his co-panelists respond to viral right-wing and populist claims about COVID, reflecting on mass compliance, media complicity, and the religious psychology of crisis. Satirical riffing ensues on cultural figures like Mayim Bialik, using her comments as a launching pad for sharp critiques of Western victimhood narratives in relation to Gaza.

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Conclusion

For listeners, this episode is a bracing blend of historical context, media criticism, irreverent humor, and uncompromising anti-imperialism. The unifying thread: U.S. elites—whether confronting Cuban defiance or manipulating domestic narratives—prioritize control, hegemony, and the management of public perception above all else.

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Transcript

[Jimmy Dore]

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[Christian Parenti]

Establishment media sucks.

[Kurt]

August Light and so good luck.

[Guest Commentator]

Bullshit.

[Kurt]

We can't afford why he's commenting this.

[Guest Commentator]

Watch and see as his jack golf

[Christian Parenti]

the medium speeds and jumps the medium

[Jimmy Dore]

and hits some head. We got a special guest with us. Christian Parenti is here with us. He's an investigative journalist, academic, and the author of several books including Lockdown America, Police and Prisons in the Age of Crisis and Radical Hamilton Economic Lessons from a Misunderstood Founder. He's reported from various locations such as Afghanistan, Iraq, Venezuela and China. His work has been featured in an HBO documentary titled Fixer the Taking of. I can't say that nice. Currently he is a professor of economics at John Jay College of Criminal justice in New York City. Welcome back to the show. Christian Parenti. Hello, Christian. How are you?

[Christian Parenti]

Hello, Jimmy. I'm well, thank you.

[Jimmy Dore]

Great to be here.

[Christian Parenti]

Good to see you.

[Jimmy Dore]

So you wrote. So I don't know anything about Cuba except what I saw in the Godfather. But you, you do. You. You wrote this article most recently in Covert Action magazine and Cuba's. It's entitled Cuba's Real Crime in the Minds of American Elites. And let me just read a little bit of it. In the eyes of American policy elites, Cuba's most unforgivable crime is not even its socialism, which is now badly frayed, but rather its sovereignty. Cuba's persistent independence and oppositional survival as a state in an American imperial is an American imperial humiliation. So are you saying. So tell me, what are you saying there?

[Christian Parenti]

Well, Cuba has, you know, Cuba occupies a special place in the imagination of the Blob, the US Foreign policy establishment. And it's hard to say, as the left and supporters of Cuba used to say, that, you know, America hated Cuba because Cuba was socialist. And Cuba showed that socialist experiments in which there was, you know, nationalization of, that is to say, confiscation of privately held American companies and turning them into public property owned by the state of Cuba and or by the workers of the establishments, that this was the crime that that so offended the elites. But the fact of the matter is that Cuba has for a long time now, since the collapse of the Soviet Union, been moving towards a mixed economy, moving towards capitalism. It has been liberalizing its rules, backing off of centrally planned economics, allowing private ownership of the means of production that is say, private ownership of businesses. And this has been going on since the early 90s. And at this point, as I lay out in the article, it's like 55% of all retail is private. Cuba has a workforce of 4 million. 1.6 million of those workers are employed by private employers. There have been since the beginning of this liberalization of the Cuban economy in the early 90s. The United States has prevented American businesses from being involved. But there have been Canadian, Mexican, Spanish, Italian companies in there since the early 90s. Recent pressure by the Trump administration is forcing many of these firms out. For example, Sherritt is a big Canadian nickel and cobalt miner in Cuba, and they have been forced out by the expansion of sanctions under the Trump administration. So this new threat against Cuba by the Trump administration, what I'm trying to do in this article is think about what is this about? Why are they so hell bent on crushing Cuba, even though Cuba is open for business? Its original crime, I. E. Socialism, is really very, very badly frayed.

[Guest Commentator]

Right?

[Christian Parenti]

And they. I mean, they have, since the. Right after the publication of this article, they passed another law in Cuba that liberalized even further. And now really, in many ways, the only barrier that American capitalists face in investing in Cuba is the American government. So why. Why is the Trump administration after Cuba? I think it has to do with the fact that Cuba is still sovereign and that the Cuban revolution has humiliated the Central Intelligence Agency and the US Defense establishment and that this is too much and that it's still, even as it has largely abandoned socialism, it still stands as some sort of symbol to dissidents of all varieties throughout the world, across the Global south, who see Cuba surviving tattered and beat up as it is surviving 90 miles off the coast of Florida. And they think, wait a minute. Hey, if the Cubans, whether you like them or dislike them, is almost irrelevant. If the Cubans can defy the United States and survive for, you know, now almost 70 years, maybe we can. Maybe we can go up against the powers that be here in this country, even if they're also backed by the United States and the, you know, European Union, whatever. It's. I mean, it's not impossible for little countries to do daring things and to defy the empire, to defy powerful states, most importantly among those, the United States. And so I think that is what's going on here, is that, like, it doesn't matter how capitalist Cuba becomes. Cuba needs to be humiliated and destroyed for having dared to defy and defeat the CIA on numerous occasions. And. And we could get into what those defeats are. I mean, they're pretty, some of them are pretty spectacular. It's a spectacular history, really.

[Jimmy Dore]

So, so, I mean, so here's a little bit more from your article. You say revolutionary Cuba's mere existence threatens the cynicism, complacency and defeatism that does so much to maintain imperial order at a global scale. As long as little Cuba, only 90 miles from Florida, can govern itself, there will be dissidents of all political varieties and countries across the global south who will think if Cuba can do it, maybe we can change leadership and transform conditions in our own. So that's what it's really about, that, the example that Cuba sets. In fact, you say that the new U.S. economic war on Cuba is not about actually expanding the capacity of private firms to do business in Cuba. It's about imperial hegemony. So that's what Cuba really threatens. As you were just saying, the example of Cuba is they're afraid that it will infect all the other the global south. And then it's much harder for US Imperialism and hegemony. Right? That's really what it's not about Cuba itself or what's happening there. It's about the example to the rest of the world about the example.

[Christian Parenti]

Rest of the world. It's also about Cuba itself and the fact that Cuba defeated the CIA. You know, they beat the CIA at the Bay of Pigs. They beat the CIA in Africa a couple times. I mean, they have, they have gone up against the US in its proxy wars and prevailed. And I think that probably really irks people in the CIA because few states have gotten away with that. And you know, Cuba has defy, I mean, the number of assassination attempts that the CIA admits to is eight against Fidel Castro. Cuban intelligence, or characters from Cuban intelligence put it in like 640 or something, who knows what it is? But we know it's at least eight. And they were defeated. And they were defeated because the recent failures of Cuban intelligence in Venezuela with the kidnapping of Nicolas Maduro aside, Cuban intelligence has a pretty storied history. Love him or hate them, just technically speaking, it's considered a pretty good intelligence agency. And one of the, the methods that they have used, it seems, is infiltration of the very scene that, that the CIA is so close with the Cuban right wing Cuban exiles. And I mean, there's considerable evidence that the American Mafiosa, this is not in the article, but Santos Trafficante, who was a, you know, he owned a lot of, he was an Italian American Mafiosa out of Tampa, Florida. And he owned a lot of gambling and other kind of criminal rackets in Havana prior to the revolution in 1959. And it seems like he may have in fact been a double agent and had, because he was very, you know, tight with the CIA and with the Cuban exile community. And there's just, you know, people can look it up, but there's all sorts of circumstantial evidence. I actually don't know. I'm agnostic on this, but this is just an example of sort of like, you know, the kind of stuff that the Cuban intelligence would get up to, infiltrating potentially at the highest levels of this. And then also, you know, these, the quote, unquote, Gusanos, the, the exiles who fled to Miami. You know, there's always questions about like, you know, possibly a lot of these, not a lot, but I mean, some of these extremely right wing Cuban activists are double agents as well. Because it's amazing what, prior to that one operation event as well, it's amazing what the Cuban intelligence managed to do. And so I think that's a key part of it. And I think the tell and all that, like the psychological tick coming from the CIA is that they're making a big deal of the four pilots who were killed back in 1992, working with an NGO out of Florida called Brothers to the Rescue. And what happened with that was there was a Cuban pilot, you know, in government of Cuba, pilot who defected in 1992, but Soviet Union has just collapsed. Everyone's like looking at their watch, Cuba's next to go. This guy defects with a MiG jet to Miami and he ingratiates himself to the right wing there, ends up marrying the, the daughter of one of these Bay of Pig veterans and infiltrating this group, Brothers to the Rescue, which was nominally a kind of humanitarian propaganda operation that sought to propagandize in Cuba, drop leaflets and in Cuba criticizing the revolution. And the Cuban government maintained that this was a CIA affiliated terrorist organization. That was just one of the many operations, you know, that, that they've been suffering from for years. The Operation Mongoose, all these assassination attempts, biological warfare against their crops, on and on and on. I mean, it's all very well documented. And so that's the light in which the Cuban government saw the Brothers to the Rescue. And so this guy Juanque, Juan Roca, who was the pilot who defected him, becomes this right winger and kind of a celebrity in the scene disappears. And then two days later, two planes from Brothers to the Rescue in 1992 were headed towards Cuba and they're shot down by the Cuban government. Cuban government's like, turn around, get out of here. They refused and they get shot down. And then at that time, people think, what happened to, to Juan Roco? Was he kidnapped or murdered by Cuban intelligence? And then he shows up a couple days later, a couple weeks later in Havana and he holds a press conference and he says, I would never betray my country. And lo and behold, it turns out this guy was a spy the whole time. The whole thing was in Cuban intelligence operation. They, you know, he steals this MiG, you know, shows up in Cuba, I mean, shows up in Miami, ingratiates himself and is passing intelligence the entire time to, to Cuba. And what I thought was interesting about that episode in history was in part his language at that press conference. He doesn't say, I would never betray the revolution. He says, I would never betray my country.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right.

[Christian Parenti]

And that gets at this question of sovereignty and patriotism and this, you know, like that side of the anti imperialism of Cuba, that's not all about socialism. It's also about just regardless of what the political economy is, who owns the means of production. A lot of Cubans don't want to be dominated by the United States. And the US on the other hand is like, wait a minute, this set of institutions, this political party, this scene needs to pay for defeating us at the Bay of Pigs, defeating us several times in Africa. And so when John Ratcliffe went to Cuba about a month ago, head of the CIA goes to Cuba about a month ago. You know, they, they want to. And then they do indict Raul Castro, who is now 95. They indict him for the killing of these four pilots from both to the rescue from 1992. I don't know, to me it just seems like a tell sort. So you guys are still hung up about that, you know. Yeah, and here's this. And they're hung up about it because it's, it's like the most prominent example of Cuban intelligence and this little island getting right up into the grill of the CIA and getting away with it, you know, getting intelligence, defying them, killing some other operatives and getting away with it. And they're like, you know, the head of the CIA, they don't send Marco Rubio, they don't send the Secretary of State, they send the head of the CIA, John Rack, to meet with the Cubans. And the guy's like, we want 95 year old Raul Castro extradited so we can punish him for, for killing These agents of ours, essentially, you know, so,

[Jimmy Dore]

you know, yeah, you go in the article, you reference Radcliffe's demands regarding Raul Castro and economic changes. Can you elaborate on the timing and context of those statements and how they connect to the broader Trump era, current

[Christian Parenti]

policy in terms of Radcliffe going to Cuba?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. And.

[Christian Parenti]

Well, he goes there in, I think it's, you know, late May and comes after the Trump administration has imposed this oil embargo. So they are, you know, they're not allowing oil to be imported to Cuba anymore. And Cuba needs about a hundred thousand barrels of oil a day and it produces 40,000 and so it's 60,000 barrels short. And as a result, there's like, you know, constant blackouts even in Havana. There's hardly any fuel for automobiles. The health care system is falling apart. I mean, the economy is in, you know, it's in a disastrous state.

[Kurt]

Right.

[Christian Parenti]

So the Trump administration has turned up the, the volume on economic warfare has gotten very, very aggressive in this calendar year towards Cuba. And it's having, it's having, you know, a pretty serious effect. It's part of what's driving the Cubans to make yet more concessions. And they, they made this, you know, they didn't say, oh, we're doing this because John Ratcliffe asked or demanded. I mean, they're doing it in part because they realize that they have to get investment and, and they have to get out from under this blockade and, and the sanctions. So that's, that's, that's the context. I mean, there has been, for decades, there has been, you know, and there's been economic sanctions against Cuba and it's illegal for Americans to spend money in Cuba. Like, you're, you're not, it's not illegal for you to travel to Cuba, but you simply cannot spend money there because that's considered trading with the enemy. And they, you know, they've been prosecuting people for years about this. I have a friend who was, was prosecuted back in the 90s and he went like, you know, he's a lefty, but he's not, like, politically active. He teaches school on Long island and he, like, went down to Cuba to, you know, as part of a trip to Latin America just to see Cuba, and he ended up getting prosecuted and having to pay $10,000, which, you know, back in those days was kind of more like $30,000 or something. So, I mean, the sanctions against Cuba have been in place and they have, and they are actually, you know, activated. It's not just the occasional high profile case against some activist group. I mean like they come down on tourists who go to Cuba. But what Trump has done is this actual embargo where they're like, you know, threatening ships that are seeking to bring oil to Cuba, most crucially Venezuelan ships. And then they also have pressured Mexico.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right.

[Christian Parenti]

So the Latin American left has not, they've basically given up on supporting Cuba. So Mexico under Claudia Sheinbaum has, you know, agreed not to export oil to Cuba. Venezuela, after the Maduro kidnapping and this bizarre, not really regime change, you know, transfer of power to Del C. Rodriguez has also agreed to stop sending oil to Cuba. There was one Russian oil tanker that defied the blockade and Trump, the US Administration didn't do anything about it. But there hasn't been other ones since then.

[Jimmy Dore]

So, so what do you, so it's, this isn't about genuine liberal liberalization of their country or their economy. This, I mean, as you pointed out, they're, they're kicking capitalists out of the United States is using sanction power to get. So, so what would like, is there a path to normalize relations with Washington D.C. for Cuba?

[Christian Parenti]

I mean, I don't know. I mean, maybe it's like, I mean, I mean they could just do what they've done with, you know, there's the example of Vietnam, the example of China. I mean these two countries have also liberalized considerably. But their quote unquote communist parties have, have not given up one party rule. And they're basically kind of running mixed economies, developmentalist mixed economies, you know, with fairly authoritarian characteristics at times. But it's like the US has been totally fine with normalizing relationships with both of those old adversaries.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right.

[Christian Parenti]

There's something special about Cuba. So I mean, I don't know what will happen, but the path towards normalization would simply to be like, yeah, wow, you guys have really moved quite far away from, thank, from, from capital, from socialism. We want in on this. We're removing, we, the US Are removing the blockade and the sanctions and we're going to take advantage of these laws that you've passed that allow our corporations and citizens to invest in Cuba. You know, and for private enterprises to grow, you know, like one law that they changed recently was there was a cap on a hundred employees. Private companies could, couldn't have more than 100 employees. I think after that point they had to basically go into business with the state. There had to be some partial state ownership. But so now it's like the lid is off on that. You can get, you know, if you invest in Cuba as A private entrepreneur, you can probably grow your business quite a bit politically. What would make the Trump administration do that? I don't know. Maybe. Maybe realizing that they can't win in Cuba, that they could invade and they could occupy, but that it's not all about socialism. It's also about this nationalism. It's about sovereignty. It's about this, like, you know, plucky little chip on the shoulder, you know, American hemisphere thing. This thing that, like, the countries of the Americas have of having thrown off English or Spanish, you know, colonialism and wanting to. To be independent republics. And that seems to be alive and well in Cuba. And, you know, it's. The Cuban people in the Cuban government do not seem prepared to go back to the days when they were a de facto colony, when the US had, you know, direct control over much of their crucial economic decisions and all that. So.

[Jimmy Dore]

And so, you know, Trump was talking, you know, there was talk about invading Cuba, but as you point out, that would be. There would be unbelievable guerrilla resistance to that. No, I mean, so that would.

[Christian Parenti]

I think so.

[Jimmy Dore]

So you, You. So I know they're dumb enough to do Iran, so do you think they're dumb enough to do Cuba?

[Christian Parenti]

The dangerous thing is, I think that they might be. And of course, that Trump has this pattern of escaping crisis A by starting crisis B and then C and then D and then E, you know, just like. Yeah, so things are not going well with the whole Iran, you know, negotiations towards peace. So, you know, if. If that. If the end of that war, if it ever comes, is really humiliating, or if the lack of the end of that war, if that finally turns into, you know, is seen as triggering an economic crash and Trump is totally humiliated by it, then he could do something pretty insane like invade Cuba and worry about the aftermath later. So. And if that happens, I think that would be. That would be a total disaster.

[Jimmy Dore]

But the problem, you know, for me, like, the problem. If there was normalization, quote unquote, with Cuba, wouldn't that just bring in all the horrible, awful things US Western corporations do, like glyphosate and, you know, I mean, it's this. It just would wreck the country.

[Christian Parenti]

No, I mean, it could, but if there was normalization, with Cuban nationalist politics in control, maybe that could be prevented. I mean, if Cuban sovereignty could be some sort of rational filter shaping foreign investment as it has. I mean, it has played that role vis a vis Canadian, Italian, Mexican, Spanish investment. You know, they have a very big renewable energy sector. They've got a very big organic farming scene. And that, that all came out of necessity. Beginning in the 1990s they spent about 22 years following a really not very functional Soviet style model of centralized planning that allowed for zero mixed economy, like zero role for small business. And all of that was backed off of in 1991, 92 when the Soviet Union collapsed. And, and so they, out of necessity they started, you know, encouraging farming. And a lot of it out of necessity was organic because you got to pay hard currency for all these chemical inputs. And there actually there were people from UC Santa Cruz went down there and, and you know, trained with Cubans and trained Cubans and organic farming and all that. So I mean you could imagine a version of a more, a steadily more capitalist Cuban economy. It's a mixed economy currently in which it's not trenched in glyphosate, but that requires a government that maintains its sovereignty and has autonomy from the United States. And that seems to be the sticking point here. The US is not, or this administration is not okay with Cuban sovereignty. It doesn't matter how much it gives up on the old socialist program. They don't like Cuban patriotism, Cuban sovereignty, period.

[Jimmy Dore]

And that's the real crime according to your article. Great article by the way. Everybody check it out at Covert Action magazine. I'll put a link in the description. Christian, always great to see you. Great to talk with you brother.

[Christian Parenti]

Thank you very much for having me on. It's great to see you too man. Keep up the great work.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay. I'll be out in New York for that 911 thing that's happening this year. Are you aware of that?

[Christian Parenti]

I'm not. What is it is a conference?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, it's just going to be a three day thing. There's going to be all kind of panels and I'll be putting out a presentation about 9 11. I have no idea what I'm going to say that it hasn't already said,

[Christian Parenti]

but I will, I will, I will come to that. Is it going to be on 9 11?

[Jimmy Dore]

It'll. Mine is actually going to be on 9 12.

[Christian Parenti]

Okay.

[Jimmy Dore]

So

[Christian Parenti]

yeah, great coverage on the MK Ultra hearings.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh thank you.

[Christian Parenti]

Very interesting and important stuff.

[Jimmy Dore]

I'm suspect as to why they're doing those now and I think it might be to make people think that Tyler Robinson actually did it and that Crooks actually was the lone nut gunman. It just seems too, it's just, I mean it is interesting everything about MK Ultra and what's coming out but it's like why would they be doing that now? And I Think it's because too many people doubt the official narrative about the Butler assassination attempt and the Charlie Kirk assassination, and they want people to get back into it. What do you think?

[Christian Parenti]

It's definitely a response to a growing awareness of all this that comes out of COVID Right. I mean, you know, people are just like, wait a minute. The intelligence agencies lie. They're very active. They have been for a long time. And I think a lot of people got into the history of MK ultra. And so, you know, maybe it's just. Maybe it's honest on. On Luna Rep. Luna's part, or maybe she just wants headlines or maybe it is part of something more nefarious. I don't know. I mean, I think it. It remains to be seen if there's going to be more hearings, right? That would be the test.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Christian Parenti]

It's like, are we going to get into this? I mean, a friend of mine who is an academic in Virginia made this point that, you know, there are like, there's lots and lots of stuff that to still be declassified around MK Ultra. For example, there were. I think it is 139. Maybe it's 149, like institutions, universities, prisons, these kinds of things that got these MK Ultra grants all over the country into Canada. The names of the scholars who got those grants remain redacted. This is, this is information that was not destroyed by Dulles when they, you know, liquidated any evidence of MK Ultra. Let's get the names of this so that historians, like my friend who I'm mentioning here, can get to work on unpacking more of the details of how this thing went down. So that's the kind of stuff that needs to be happening. And, you know, I hope that people push these representatives to keep going. Like that was not enough. One day with three people, right? That's just the opening act. If that's where it stops, then, yeah, it's very suspicious.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. Hey, you know, here's another great way you can help support the show is you become a premium member. We give you a couple of hours of premium bonus content every week and it's a great way to help support the show. You can do it by going to jimmy dork.com clicking on join premium. It's the most affordable premium program in the business and it's a great way to help put your thumb back in the eye of the bastards. Thanks for everybody who was already a premium member. And if you haven't, you're missing out. We give you lots of bonus content. Thanks for your Support. Tucker Carlson had something to say about the COVID 19 vaccine. You heard it? It's pretty good. I gotta get him. I gotta get him on this show. He's taught. He's gone on everybody else's freaking show. We gotta. I gotta. It's my own fault. All I have to do is text him. I'm sure he'll come.

[Kurt]

Recently, though, didn't you say it again?

[Mayim Bialik]

You did.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, I did.

[Kurt]

His appearance on his show. I know it was good because Ben Shapiro was very upset.

[Jimmy Dore]

He was very upset about it. He said my name about 10 times, which makes me happy.

[Kurt]

Yeah. He was so upset, he forgot to do the old Bill Maher Go.

[Jimmy Dore]

Some guy, some gu. Comedian, Jimmy Doer in that thing. And there's Tucker Carlson laughing right along with him. That's you. You don't have to defend a widow. A widow.

[Kurt]

That's great. What am I in the Freemasons? Can a widow son not get a. What he gave him not one point. He had. Not one point where you lied. He just said, tucker's letting him talk.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's it. Tucker's letting him talk. He didn't say I lied. Okay, let's do this.

[Christian Parenti]

In a recent appearance on Jack Neal's podcast, Tucker Carlson argues that the COVID vaccine rollout was probably the greatest crime ever committed.

[Guest Commentator]

It's hard not to conclude something's going on because some of the behavior doesn't make sense if you view it through the conventional formula of what government does or big companies do for the population. They serve the population. Government does it for votes. Companies do it for money. So when you see behavior that doesn't fit that template, you're like, what is this? The COVID Vax was the one that I've never gotten in my mind. I've never understood what that was about. There'd never been a coronavirus vax that had been successful. They tried it. Didn't work. The last time they tried it, I knew that. And this one didn't work. And it was obvious immediately that it didn't work. And rather than kind of pull back a little bit or be defensive. Well, actually, it does work. They took a Stalinist line, which was, it works. And if you don't think it works, you're evil. You deserve to die. And if you don't take it, we're going to fire you and destroy your life. I've never seen anything like that in my life. There has been nothing like that in all human history at that scale. Well, in the military, and it didn't work. And in fact, it killed a ton of people, including someone I know gave another close friend of mine a heart attack. But it killed a lot of people around the world. It caused cancer. It lowered female fertility. It was a disaster. It was probably the greatest crime ever committed, honestly. And even now, there's no conversation about it at all. It's still required. The Trump administration still has it on the schedule. They're sending money to Pfizer for more COVID vaccine, MRNA vaccine. It's like, that's so bonkers that it's hard to conclude. It's not like they don't know the numbers. Excess mortality numbers alone tell you this, but it's, like, obvious.

[Christian Parenti]

That net.

[Guest Commentator]

Net. It's poison and it killed people. And yes, it does change your DNA, actually. Like, actually, that's not a conspiracy theory. So given all of that, I think the people who did that specifically are. Which would be US government officials and business leaders, internationally and foreign governments capable of literally anything. And by the way, that's such a huge scale. Like, a mass immunization project is like. It's bigger than a war mobilization. It's like the biggest thing a government ever does. And they did it on false pretenses, knowing that it harmed people, and they did it anyway. And they still haven't admitted it, and they're still doing it. So just on the basis of that experience and the evidence that we all saw, I think it's possible to believe absolutely anything about these people. Would you do that if you were behind the COVID rollout? The COVID vaccine rollout, and you found out it was killing people? Would you be like, no, no. Kids have to have it anyway. Even though the death rate from COVID for people under 30 without comorbidities was zero, but the death rate from the COVID vaccine was much higher than zero. You would never do that. I mean, ever. It didn't matter how much they paid you. You would never do that. What kind of person would do that? Well, you know, fill in the blank yourself.

[Jimmy Dore]

So why aren't there more people saying some stuff like that out there? Why is it only people like us and Tucker Carlson? Why aren't there some.

[Kurt]

You would have to. I mean, just think of the shattering of your worldview to understand that, no, it's not just human competence. They're actively trying to kill you and traffic kids. A lot of people don't want to accept that. And they become Dotty Sandusky, who still thinks Jerry Sandusky is innocent to this day.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, it's well, it's as I've described before. It's because people's belief that Ivermectin is horse pace. And you're a. And you're a moron if you take it for a human. People's belief that masks work. People's belief that shutting down schools was a smart thing to do. People's belief that Covid was deadly even though it had a 0.04% death rate. Even Bill Gates admitted it was just like the flu but a little different, affected most of the elderly, had a low death rate. People's belief that the vaccines, that vaccines are the greatest invention in human history, which is what Jon Stewart said.

[Kurt]

Well, I didn't get polio I liked. I mean, good reviews on that one, not the COVID one so much.

[Jimmy Dore]

People's belief in these Covid narratives are what they call load bearing beliefs.

[Kurt]

Well, I call it that.

[Jimmy Dore]

And if you take away those beliefs, their entire self image will collapse on them. And so they have to keep propping them up, which is when you run into people who say things like this. Well, they never said it would stop transmission. And then I show them a video of everybody from Dr. Fauci to Joe Biden to Rachel Maddow to Tony Kyle, everybody in between saying that it definitely will stop transmission. And then they go, yeah, but that's before they knew. No, no, you said no one ever said that. And now you know why you said that no one ever said that. Because that's what you're being told now on your corporate pharma funded media that no one ever said that, so you just repeat it. Doesn't it bother you that you just repeated a falsehood and then I debunked it and you just moved the goalposts?

[Kurt]

Honestly, Jimmy, it bothers me more that you kept telling me the thing I didn't want to hear.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes, I'm being honest.

[Kurt]

I don't know if I can forgive it.

[Jimmy Dore]

I had a conversation with a friend of mine who doesn't talk to me anymore, by the way. We were tight for years. One of my best friends and

[Christian Parenti]

I

[Jimmy Dore]

was on the phone with them when I figured out all this stuff about COVID And I told him all that stuff. It's got a low death rate. The MRNA vaccine doesn't stop transmission and contraction. You've been lied to. Masks don't work. It's all a lie. It's the whole thing. And I Talked for like 15 minutes straight. I was laying out the case for him about the side effects, the excess deaths, excess Mortality, the nerve damage, the myocarditis, the lower I. 15 minutes nonstop. I laid it out to him and his response to me was okay, that's a lot to take in. And that was it. That's what he said. And I haven't talked to him since. Really? We haven't had a real conversation since. He's a comedian.

[Kurt]

Doesn't David Feldman say I'm kidding

[Jimmy Dore]

and he's a comedian.

[Kurt]

And hey, my good friend Dan Soder is a total moron about go. I'm just randomly picking his name out of people that I'm friends with that I like that just the expert said it. I didn't bother to look. But I know you stupid.

[Jimmy Dore]

What?

[Kurt]

Even though you read.

[Jimmy Dore]

I saw.

[Kurt]

I don't read because of me. Smart.

[Jimmy Dore]

I saw somebody in the comments under one of our videos we did about COVID and they said what a silly thing to base a friendship on someone's. Someone's belief in vaccines. What a silly thing.

[Kurt]

Well, I have everything else spiritual taken away from me in today's fast paced modern world, Jimmy. So I got to that is all my God hole.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right.

[Kurt]

Fill it with government. The way new world order.

[Jimmy Dore]

Just like Carl Jung said, your psyche has a need for religion. And if you don't have a real experience with the divine, you're going to project it outward. And the people who call themselves liberals who used to be for my body, my choice and critical of Big Pharma completely flip the script and became mouthpieces for Big Pharma, the most criminal organization as a corporation, maybe ever.

[Kurt]

Well you don't understand those.

[Jimmy Dore]

And they turned them into. They turned science into religion. Science works on questioning. It always has, always will. There's no such thing as settled science, but they turned it into it. And if you question science you were a heretic and they turned people like Dr. Fauci into. Into deities.

[Kurt]

That's not what Professor Dave said. He's big mad at me too.

[Jimmy Dore]

Professor Dave who?

[Kurt]

Science. The famous science communicator that get your booster. And also bizarrely has bible history videos that are very much like what somebody Zionist rabbi would say. Very odd that he's all. All the science that isn't science. But just do what I say.

[Jimmy Dore]

Who is this backup? Who are you talking about?

[Kurt]

You've seen him. The guy that I was trashing on Danny Jones. I know you've seen. He's got a face like a toucan and he's one of the many science communicators that will debunk Every, oh, this is crazy what he said about vaccine. No facts, just a bunch of fucking shaming that you bothered to look into it becoming a goddamn Catholic church.

[Jimmy Dore]

And people don't realize that just like corporate media is completely corrupted and bought off by big pharma, the same thing happens with medical studies that they, you can rig a study to have an outcome you want, which is what they did with Ivermectin during COVID even though there were decades of, of studies that showed it did fight the COVID virus in vitro and that. And it's just crazy that people don't realize that medicine, just like anything else, is 100% corrupted by big pharma. That when it was taken over by Rockefeller in the early 1900s. People don't know about that. Do you know about that, Kurt? You know about this kind of stuff?

[Kurt]

Oh, I know all about it. Just like communism and Nazism is fundamental by Rockefellers and all the gang, all the things that you don't like. Oh, style. It's like Stalinist like Tucker said. Well, guess who else gave us, helped us with that. Guess who else gave the world these gain of function experiments, if you will. Because they look at you as a different species. Billionaires look at you like you're a different species that it's okay to experiment on. And can, can you blame them? Because nobody does jack shit, right? Nobody's going to go, I'm not saying never kill anybody. You don't have to. You could just not cooperate with this shit and it falls apart. But everybody's going to keep their head down and Dave Rubin it out for their career like a real genius.

[Jimmy Dore]

And you know people, you talk to people. Now we're five years, six years out after this rollout of this novel vaccine, which again does not meet the definition of what a vaccine was until they change the definition of what a vaccine is. Now people walk around going, well, vaccines aren't supposed to stop me from getting it. It's just supposed to lessen the symptoms. Really? You mean like polio? So if you got polio after you got the polio vax, you'd say it still worked. Really?

[Kurt]

I would thank them for their service, Jimmy. As the great John Jacob Fugal Scheimer Schmidt said, arguably Trump's Operation War Speed was the one good thing he did. Wow, John, you should write a book that is such a smart take. I like a whole book of your take on that. And also how Christianity supports transgenderism. Please write a book with your fucking really wise words and get boosted.

[Jimmy Dore]

Get boosted and if you ask people, when did you stop taking your boosters? And they'll go, and then they'll tell you. And then you go, why, why don't, why don't you still. This. They'll start. Big Pharma is still telling you to take them. You go to cvs, they're still going to give it to you for free.

[Kurt]

Science says to do it.

[Jimmy Dore]

The science says to do it. Why wouldn't they? And they'll say things like this, well, I took it when it was an emergency, when we were trying to stop a pandemic, but there's no longer a pandemic.

[Kurt]

How would it stop the pandemic though, if I'm never going to get an answer to that question of how me getting the shots and you not getting the shots, how I'm in any danger since I got my shots, right? We will never get the answer to

[Jimmy Dore]

that because there is no answer to that.

[Kurt]

How do you think my control, has anybody think my control is not real when, when you just watch this shit happen?

[Jimmy Dore]

It's just unbelievable. You read how the main point, you see how easy, you see how easy it is to get the people who call themselves skeptics, people who I worked with at the show for years, call themselves skeptics of the establishment who didn't. Who don't believe we landed on the moon and still think Elvis is alive. Bought the hook, line and sinker everything they said about COVID with no skepticism still to this day.

[Kurt]

Yeah, well, as a secular materialist, I have to make scientism my. My religion. And those are my priests.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes.

[Kurt]

I have to have no lateral thought of any kind because that would be schizo. And I have to, just as I said, just blindly follow. That's, that's why you're a problem. Because if you weren't making noise, we could just get back to our lives that were going so great before the pandemic. And now they're even better. But you keep complaining. Dad sleeping, you know, he's drunk and he gets cranky.

[Jimmy Dore]

So you talk to these people who bought the COVID narrative. They don't even know what the term excess death is. They've never heard it. Not only do they not look into it, they don't even know what it is. They don't even think it's a thing. And yet, and even more so, Kurt, they don't want to know. Again, we go back to. Because those are load bearing beliefs. And if they found out that everything they believed about COVID was a lie, then who are they as a person, then? They're. Then they're actually the dumb idiot moron. And the people who questioned Covid were the smart ones. And so then who are. They're the thing that they hated for five years.

[Kurt]

That's worse than a child molester, literally. In the world of Hollywood, it's better to be a child molester, literally, than write about COVID They'll defend any kind of victimization of children to the ends of time. They'll make excuses for that, you know, but not wearing a mask. My friend Charlie from South by, who's a smart guy, still thinks masks worked. Didn't bother looking into it. Thinks I'm making it up. I'm like, look, I'll be happy to send you the three years of coverage. Are you even going to look at it? I bet you won't.

[Jimmy Dore]

The virus is smaller than the holes in the mask. It's like trying to stop sand with a chain link fence.

[Kurt]

It's like wearing a lambskin condo doctors don't wear.

[Jimmy Dore]

You've seen people. People say, well, the next time you go to the dentist, have them spit in your mouth. That's not what. That's exactly what a mask is for, to stop spit. It's not there to stop a fucking virus. I had my old roommate tell me, Jimmy, when you go, that you'd call, go to the hospital to all the doctors, stop wearing masks. They don't wear masks to stop a virus. They're wearing a mask to stop literal spittle from coming out of their mouth when they're operating on you. Yeah, that's what it's there for.

[Kurt]

I still like that Ignatius Semmelweis, the guy that invented washing your hands before you put your filthy. Remember that people's bodies. He died in an insane asylum because they demonized. How much the guy was hounded who said, wash your goddamn hands. Because he weighed against the science.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right.

[Kurt]

With science.

[Jimmy Dore]

That settled science.

[Kurt]

It's just authority. And the only reason we have these terms, again, pseudoscience, was that just means fake science. Why does it have that term? That's marketing from the Carnegie Foundation. That's what that is. That's why we have that term. And the first step of mind control is controlling your language. I'm gonna tell you what words to say. I'm gonna give you a limit of acceptable discourse called the Overton window. And then you've already got a veal cage around your brain to start with. And that's how I control people. That's called magic that's what we learn in Kabbalah. And it works.

[Jimmy Dore]

If you use the WHO and the CDC data, you will find out that even they say there's been 7 million confirmed excess deaths, probably because they're fat. But if you also. They'll also tell you none of those deaths are from the vaccine.

[Kurt]

Well, I would.

[Jimmy Dore]

So it's just a mystery. Like, all of a sudden, we have 7 million excess deaths since the rollout of a novel MRNA vaccine, which never worked. All the times they've tried, it never worked.

[Kurt]

It's my Israel. That vaccine. You better criticize it, because I will take that as a form of genocide, but not the genocide that it actually did.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay. Do you know who this is? This is that. How do you say her name? Maya.

[Kurt]

Awesome.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. Mayim Bialik. She's from the Big Bang Theory. Was she also Blossom? Blossom. Okay.

[Kurt]

With Joey Lawrence.

[Christian Parenti]

Whoa.

[Kurt]

This is Joey Lawrence. Kind of hair I got right now.

[Jimmy Dore]

So you're not going to believe. Well, you. You are. You're going to believe it because I'm going to play it for you. She is. She's a genocide denier, and she acts like an arrogant victim who thinks Zionism is an innocent belief. Worse than that. Let's listen to what she had to say recently on a podcast. Let's listen.

[Mayim Bialik]

I had people approach me wearing Zionism is racism shirts in a parking lot not far from here at my favorite vegan joint with my children. And the thought occurred to me, what are my kids about to witness?

[Jimmy Dore]

Did you see her choke up? Did you see her choke up? She just choked up because someone had a T shirt on that said Zionism is because someone was telling her a fact on a T shirt. She choked up because of her kids. But wait till. Wait till you hear what her kids said.

[Mayim Bialik]

I had people approach me wearing Zionism is racism shirts in a parking lot not far from here at my favorite vegan joint with my children. And the thought occurred to me, what are my kids about to witness? When October 7th happened, it just magnified. And it was actually Sacha Baron Cohen who said, we're about to see the largest campaign of antisemitism we've ever seen in history. And I was like, what's he talking about? That's what happened. I was afraid. Like, a lot of public Jews were afraid. I didn't know what I was gonna find when I opened the gate to my house. I don't live in an expensive gated community. I live in a place where people can see me walking. I did not Know what my children would experience. And when I saw what started happening to Jewish leaders, when I still see it, I of course many of us wondered, am I next? I had people approach me wearing Zionism is racism shirts in a parking lot not far from here at my favorite vegan joint with my children. And the thought occurred to me, what are my kids about to witness?

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh my God.

[Mayim Bialik]

Like a big dude coming. Coming up to me as I'm getting into my car. What is happening? What is. That's terrifying. Oh, that's maybe all. And I said, get in the car, get in the car. But I'm like, I have like a chill right now going inside of my head because like, whatever we believe, we don't approach people in public parking lots, right?

[Jimmy Dore]

Like, no, we just, we know what we do is we just bomb their house and kill their children.

[Kurt]

And also I know she was all for doing that. Remember when nobody Trump associated could sit down to dinner and it was good to go Bother. Like, what do you. I don't believe her choking up either because I know her kids don't buy it.

[Jimmy Dore]

No, her kids don't buy it. I hope it's in this video. Let's listen.

[Mayim Bialik]

Like with a people, a grown man approaching a five foot four like mom, like what? You don't even know anything. You actually don't know. You don't know anything about.

[Jimmy Dore]

Actually, we do know one thing we do know. We do know you don't care about a genocide or other mothers having their kids slaughtered and dismembered and targeted by snipers in the idf. We know that. We know that. We actually do know that about you. That you don't care and that you actually like every Zionist. You are a narcissist and you can only think of your own pain. It all revolves around you. You're not like, oh, I wonder why people are upset about racism against the Palestinians. And Zionism is inherently racism. Okay, let's listen. I hopefully the part is about her kids is at the end my sons

[Mayim Bialik]

would say to me, well, when's the last time you posted that you care about Palestinians? I said I could tattoo it on my face. There's going to be people who don't care.

[Jimmy Dore]

Like, like you did you. So her. Even her own kids don't buy her bs. Even her own kid. When was the last time you posted something about the Palestinian kids? I could tattoo it on my face. Yeah, but you're not.

[Kurt]

Wait, hold on a minute. You don't do it because there's going to be people that don't care. You do it because it's a thing you think and it's right.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right.

[Kurt]

Or you could just not post horseshit online, too. That'd probably help you out a lot. You could do that. I mean, that's gotta be mortifying.

[Jimmy Dore]

So she's from the Big Bang Theory, Kurt, and she loves the country that actually creates a Big Bang in civilian communities in Gaza.

[Kurt]

Yeah, but she's a really.

[Jimmy Dore]

She's a really good actress because she plays someone who is very smart.

[Kurt]

Do you remember, you see James Lee when he. He was like, looking back now, the Big Bang Theory seems like these girls were honey traps for American nerds that were going to. I forget what technical school. But that sitcom was all about the kind of nerds that would be Lord Epstein island, basically, you know?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. Remember, Kurt, opinions are violent. Especially when you have lived an entire pampered existence of hearing yes your entire life, like some college improv troupe. And then you see an opposing opinion while you're eating in a vegan restaurant.

[Kurt]

You don't approach a woman and say, hey, there's me and Bialik, and wear a shirt that says racism, which is like hitting someone with a brick.

[Jimmy Dore]

And she holds up her kids as a shield.

[Kurt]

I was like, you could already just. Based on the one line from her sons, you could tell. They're like, oh, here we go again.

[Jimmy Dore]

If a T shirt terrified her so much, she should definitely avoid Twitter. So much scarier than any T shirt.

[Kurt]

I mean, oh, is she gonna be okay after a guy with a T shirt said, hey, that's bmb.

[Jimmy Dore]

George Galloway says she felt fear over a T shirt with the truth on it.

[Kurt]

She should watch a video of them eating food in front of them starving kids to make them starve harder. That's what I'm thinking about when I listen to her whine about seeing a T shirt.

[Jimmy Dore]

So I like what this person says. Maybe you can't see it. It says there is no she with actress Mayim Bialik excusing the death of thousands of children to defend Israel and claiming the victim card. That's just demonic behavior.

[Kurt]

It is.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's demonic.

[Kurt]

Fake Latin.

[Jimmy Dore]

She's the victim. She's the victim, Kurt.

[Kurt]

I bet she's right on top of hell.

[Jimmy Dore]

Instead of being angry at a. At a country committing a genocide in 4k for 3 years straight, instead of being angry at them for making you less safe, she's angry at someone who noticed that someone's committing a genocide.

[Kurt]

Right. Well, she's committed to not noticing it, and Feeling that she's. I'm blown away because, you know. Well, they lamented it later. Somebody at that. That J something convention about we taught people too good that Holocausts are wrong. We maybe shouldn't have harped on it because now they think it applies when we want to do one. Remember that we were showing that lady talk about how they regretted teaching people about the Holocaust too much.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Kurt]

Because now since it's been drummed in your head every day since you're a kid and it's good it was. Because now I can spot it when you do it.

[Jimmy Dore]

So here's what Mel, the village crazy lady says. She gets teary eyed at the thought of people saying mean things to her in front of her children. Meanwhile, Israel uses an AI program called Where's Daddy?

[Kurt]

To.

[Jimmy Dore]

To hunt down Palestinians and literally murder them when they are at home with their kids. That's. Yeah. And just. Just to let you know. This is from today. This is from today. That's from today. From today.

[Kurt]

He just assaulted me. This is terrorism. What he just did.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's from today. You want to cry about something?

[Kurt]

Did that guy just say that to me in front of my cat? She said, me and Bialik's in a Barry Wise safe room right now, hiding in the house like a big vault.

[Jimmy Dore]

Palestinians were given plastic bags with the weight of their children in them. When kids were blown up by Israel, they couldn't tell whose was who. A mother said, I don't even know if this is my son. I'm so sorry, Mariam. Bialik, after you saw someone with an anti Zionist T shirt. She's crying because someone wore a T shirt she didn't like. Meanwhile, people are losing entire bloodlines.

[Kurt]

I'm wondering if the person who had the T shirt, if they somehow could get in touch with the show. Because I'm starting to think that she maybe just saw somebody's shirt and assumed it was about her.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, right.

[Kurt]

Said something. And then she goes, hey, is that me and Bialik? You know, like Blossom gets mad at your shirt. I'll bet you just as likely as whatever the hell she's saying.

[Jimmy Dore]

I like this. They told you Hitler brainwashed the youth. Except Hitler wasn't the one who made children's bedtime books to make mass murder seem fun.

[Kurt]

Under the rockets, rockets glow. Is that a children's book about blowing up.

[Jimmy Dore]

Look. Look it up. Steph. What is rocket?

[Kurt]

That's. That's straight up evil. That she really. It's a sandler. Wait, who wrote this? The author Says Sandler.

[Jimmy Dore]

I like this baby's first genocide. Under the rockets Glow she Ra's Journey to Courage, Tales of resilience and hope. A young girl named Shira learns about her Jewish heritage through her father's inspiring stories. Finding Courage Amidst a Night of Rocket Fire. And it's by Roman Sandler.

[Kurt]

Is Roman Sandler related to Adam Sandler?

[Jimmy Dore]

I don't know. So there you go. That's the Zionist mentality in a nutshell right there. And the portion of the proceeds will be donated to the victims of October 7th massacre. So that, that doesn't bother her, but someone with a T shirt. Oh, my God. And of course, Zaka Baron Cohen is also a mental case.

[Kurt]

Well, there's no greater programming that I've ever encountered in my life besides like Catholic chicks that even if they change religion, they're still. You have that Catholic thing about them. That's the only thing I compare it to. But it's pretty intense.

[Jimmy Dore]

It's intense.

[Kurt]

It's amazing because cognitive dissonance, when you pretend you're like a big lefty and you're still for that, I would think that would just. That's why it's such a good form of mind control because it doesn't really crack under cognitive dissonance. It's still split.

[Jimmy Dore]

Her sitting there painting herself as the victim in the face of stuff like this is demonic. Demonic.

[Kurt]

I didn't know she. Yeah, I know. The children's book thing is gross. That's like really crazy.

[Jimmy Dore]

She gave us a book review of that book. Gave a book review of that book. That's why I believe leave it was included. But you know what the good thing

[Christian Parenti]

is, is she is a vegan.

[Kurt]

Yeah, that's my favorite. Oh, I can't go to my vegan place because someone, you know. Oh, I just think of like the level of demonic you are if meat is murder, but not, you know, murdering that girl in the picture.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right.

[Kurt]

That's not murder. Really. Go fuck yourself.

[Jimmy Dore]

Wheat germ is going to put her in bed for a week. A germ of A germ of an idea will put her on the therapy couch for a year.

[Kurt]

You gotta be demented to be vegan and then be for this. That's one of the craziest things I think I've ever.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, I don't. You know what's interesting now? I, I, I don't have any problem with vegans. I actually respect them. I wish I could be vegan, but I can't because of my bone disease. But I was talking To a vegan the other day, and the vegan said to me, you know, I never thought about it, but I feed my dog meat, right? I feed my dog other animals.

[Kurt]

Well, you know, who invented it? It's invented by rich people in England. It's not like some ancient practice of something. It's a bunch of people in England who had no problem with, like, World War II. And, you know, it's a classic, like, rich, snooty thing to be a vegetarian but not care about people being killed. Or in the case of some of them, like you. Oh, I prefer it if people were killed. If you want to get Peter.

[Jimmy Dore]

I do feel. I do have guilt about eating animals, just in case, you know, that's why when I eat, I try to eat that Kobe beef because it's. It's a pampered cow, right? They. They. They make sure there's no stress in their life. They massage them, they feed them that, give them beer. They have the greatest life. And then one day, boom, somebody comes up behind. And if someone gave me that. That option, hey, Jimmy, you're not gonna have any anxiety in your whole life. You're gonna be pampered. You're gonna have to eat whatever you want. You live in a nice place. And then one day, somebody's gonna come. I'll be like, you know what? I've had enough anxiety in my life. I think I would. I think I would take that. So, Hey, become a premium member. Go to jimmy door comedy.com sign up. It's the most affordable premium program in the business. All the voices performed today are by the one and only, the inimitable Mike McCray. He can be found at mikemcrae.com that's for this week. You be the best you can be and I'll keep being me. Out. Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Not freak out.

[Christian Parenti]

I'm not kidding.

[Mayim Bialik]

Do not. Do not.

[Kurt]

I'm not.

[Jimmy Dore]

I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.

[Kurt]

Freak out.

[Jimmy Dore]

Don't freak out. Do not freak out, Freak out, freak out, freak out.