Episode 789 | "Good Mouth Skin"

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 789 | "Good Mouth Skin"

Podcast Information:

• Title: The Joe Budden Podcast
• Host/Author: The Joe Budden Network
• Description: Tune into Joe Budden and his friends. Follow along the crazy adventures of these very random friends.
• Episode: Episode 789 | "Good Mouth Skin"
• Release Date: January 8, 2025

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1. Introduction

In this episode, Joe Budden reunites with his co-hosts Ish, Melissa Ford, Parks, and Corey after a month-long hiatus caused by a personal legal ordeal. The hosts dive deep into various topics ranging from Joe's legal battles to significant lawsuits in the media industry, all while maintaining their signature candid and unfiltered banter.

2. Joe Budden's Civil Suit Experience

Joe Budden opens up about a distressing incident that led to a civil suit. While sleepwalking, Joe inadvertently caused a disturbance that resulted in allegations of lewdness and stalking against him.

• Quote:
  Joe Budden [24:05]:
  "I've been having an ongoing battle with this racist couple. They've been complaining about everything, and it all culminated in this sleepwalking incident."

Joe discusses the challenges of navigating the legal system, the stress of being away from the podcast, and the overwhelming support from listeners and fans who stepped up during his absence.

• Quote:
  Joe Budden [35:09]:
  "I want to thank all the people out there for the love and support. Without you, I wouldn't have made it through this tough time."

3. Lawsuit Against Fox Sports: Joy Taylor and Skip Bayless

The conversation shifts to a high-profile lawsuit involving Joy Taylor, a prominent figure at Fox Sports, and Skip Bayless, a well-known sports commentator. Joy Taylor has filed a class-action lawsuit alleging sexual harassment and a toxic work culture at Fox Sports.

• Quote:
  Melissa Ford [68:06]:
  "A hairdresser at Fox Sports is suing Skip Bayless, claiming he sexually harassed her by propositioning her with offers like, 'I'll pay you $1.5 million if you'll sleep with me.'"

The hosts dissect the implications of this lawsuit, discussing how it sheds light on broader issues of sexism and power dynamics within male-dominated industries.

• Quote:
  Joe Budden [76:19]:
  "Sexual harassment in the workplace isn't just individual misdeeds; it's a systemic problem that needs to be addressed."

4. Sexism and Workplace Culture

Delving deeper, the hosts engage in a thoughtful discussion about the pervasive nature of sexism in professional environments. They explore how power imbalances can lead to exploitative relationships and the challenges victims face when coming forward.

• Quote:
  Ish [75:28]:
  "Men in power often misuse their authority, making it difficult for women to advance based solely on merit."

The conversation also touches on societal perceptions, legal protections, and the importance of creating equitable workplaces where talent and hard work are the primary drivers of success.

• Quote:
  Corey [58:22]:
  "Post-pandemic, the boundaries between work and personal life have blurred, making it harder to address these issues effectively."

5. Music and Pop Culture Discussions

Beyond the serious topics, the episode is peppered with discussions about current music releases and pop culture phenomena. The hosts review albums from artists like Lil Baby and Drake, and share their thoughts on popular series like Squid Game.

• Quote:
  Corey [146:12]:
  "Lil Baby's latest album incorporates salsa elements, showcasing his versatility beyond traditional hip-hop."

They also critique performances from events such as the Beyoncé Bowl, expressing admiration for Beyoncé's vocal prowess and stage presence.

• Quote:
  Joe Budden [176:22]:
  "Beyoncé kills it every time. Her control over her vocals is unparalleled."

6. Conclusion

As the episode wraps up, the hosts reflect on the complexities of their discussions, from personal legal challenges to systemic workplace issues. They emphasize the importance of accountability, support, and continual improvement both personally and professionally.

• Quote:
  Joe Budden [257:26]:
  "Keep us in your prayers. We've been through a lot, but with your support, we're back and better than ever."

The episode concludes with light-hearted banter, shout-outs to friends and supporters, and a promise to return stronger in future episodes.

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Notable Quotes:

• Joe Budden [35:09]: "I want to thank all the people out there for the love and support. Without you, I wouldn't have made it through this tough time."
• Melissa Ford [68:06]: "A hairdresser at Fox Sports is suing Skip Bayless, claiming he sexually harassed her by propositioning her with offers like, 'I'll pay you $1.5 million if you'll sleep with me.'"
• Ish [75:28]: "Men in power often misuse their authority, making it difficult for women to advance based solely on merit."
• Joe Budden [176:22]: "Beyoncé kills it every time. Her control over her vocals is unparalleled."

Key Takeaways:

• Personal Resilience: Joe Budden's openness about his legal struggles highlights the importance of resilience and community support.
• Systemic Issues: The lawsuit against Joy Taylor and Skip Bayless serves as a catalyst for broader discussions on sexism and power dynamics in the workplace.
• Cultural Commentary: The hosts provide insightful critiques of contemporary music and entertainment, blending serious analysis with their trademark humor.

This episode of The Joe Budden Podcast offers a blend of personal storytelling, critical analysis of media industry issues, and engaging discussions on music and pop culture, all delivered with the hosts' characteristic authenticity and candor.

Transcript

[Joe Budden]

The thoughts, views and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show.

[Ish]

Press the button with y'all.

[Joe Budden]

My question to the room. Is anybody gonna combat the Mark and Mel tandem on the. On the Joy Taylor Fox Sports story?

[Ish]

And that's the fucking problem with our people, man.

[Melissa Ford]

Right? Already out the gate.

[Ish]

Out the gate.

[Melissa Ford]

Doesn't even know what we're gonna say.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, no, no, no. Before out the gate, like when the.

[Ish]

News broke, I thought about Marc and.

[Joe Budden]

Mel on the right at the gate. Oh, Lord. I think I know what y'all gonna say.

[Ish]

I think you underestimate me, sir.

[Joe Budden]

Who you think gonna say it? What we think they gonna say?

[Parks]

Mel, not more. I think Mel gonna say it.

[Joe Budden]

Mel pussy. Cause she gonna want it. She want a job at Fox, so she. Joy.

[Ish]

Hey, Joy. I understand, girl.

[Melissa Ford]

I can't bring this thing.

[Joe Budden]

So being a woman.

[Ish]

Mel's gonna cry up, man.

[Joe Budden]

Working in male dominated spaces, sometimes you.

[Ish]

Gotta do what you gotta do.

[Joe Budden]

Having to curb.

[Parks]

For the security of men that may not be as qualified as you sometimes put in positions. Dumb yourself down.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah, I know a thing or two about that. Are we off? We off.

[Ish]

I escaped it.

[Melissa Ford]

I feel like a little bit. Yeah, I wasn't going to say any of that shit.

[Ish]

Let's go, Mel. Exactly. Teach them n. I wasn't going to.

[Melissa Ford]

Say any of that.

[Joe Budden]

Nigga.

[Ish]

What the fuck? 1.5. You got bigger offers and turn it down.

[Melissa Ford]

Listen, stop and just stop. Stop. Get me in trouble any who.

[Parks]

All right, y'all on. I already see.

[Ish]

I love it.

[Joe Budden]

I'm with bullshit. But in 2025 and I am approaching this like our first part in 2025.

[Corey]

It is kind of it.

[Parks]

It's mine. Happy New Year, everybody.

[Joe Budden]

It's mine too. I think it is, right? Happy New Year.

[Parks]

Hey.

[Ish]

Y'All.

[Joe Budden]

I have so, so much. Oh, they stole my voice from me. I have so much to say. Parks and Corey.

[Melissa Ford]

Wait, what we did vacation. We only heard from you. We haven't heard from this one.

[Joe Budden]

Parks and Corio and Rim and Keno.

[Corey]

Don't forget all co conspirators, yo.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God, what a time. I can't wait to tell you all about it. All right, let me make sure. I mean my seat is. Make sure Everything is feel the same. Get these fucking lotto tickets. Enough, Ian. Ian, it's over for your little hootenanny games. You was playing. Mark was very happy that those lotto tickets were fixed.

[Ish]

So happy.

[Joe Budden]

Nobody was happier than Mark.

[Ish]

My whole day got better.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah.

[Ish]

That's horrible. Oh, I mean, Mel was happy too. I'm snitching. She texted me. Oh, shit. With like, seven exclamation points, which hasn't happened in a long time, that's how.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, when's the last time she text you with all of my stories? Your boy.

[Ish]

When she said, I'm glad you coming to the show, she was like, I'm glad you joined in the show.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, good defense.

[Ish]

Two steps ahead of you.

[Joe Budden]

That boy is good.

[Parks]

That jazz step crossed over.

[Corey]

He might be getting this back.

[Parks]

She text you with exclamation points that said what?

[Ish]

It was fake. The video was fake.

[Melissa Ford]

It was. It was not necessarily enjoyment. It was like shock.

[Corey]

Ah.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, she's trying to play.

[Corey]

Good defense.

[Joe Budden]

Enough. She's not the greatest.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, my God. I didn't see that.

[Ish]

She didn't say she was happy. I just saw the exclamation points. I was joyous.

[Joe Budden]

The hater hopped out of you both, and I enjoyed it.

[Ish]

Oh, yeah.

[Corey]

To the fullest.

[Joe Budden]

What?

[Corey]

On camera, in hd.

[Ish]

I wasn't hating.

[Parks]

No, no, no, you can say.

[Ish]

Just say you were hating. There's a difference. I've been thinking this through.

[Corey]

I bet you have.

[Parks]

It was it. Think about your emotions.

[Ish]

Yeah, that's what adults do. We think through our emotions. We process, we reflect. I was jealous, but I wasn't hating. Hating is like, I don't want you to have it either. Jealous is like, damn, I wish I had that too.

[Parks]

Hey, bro, bro, big bro. You just said time out. Hold on, hold on. You took off running and called your wife mad.

[Ish]

I didn't call. I wasn't mad, nigga. Not when you won.

[Parks]

Not when you.

[Ish]

Not when you won. I was like, y'all ice won. That's crazy. Then when it was like, well, Ish won, too.

[Joe Budden]

Ish won.

[Ish]

Cause now she was like, wait, it was five people, two tickets, and you didn't win either of these, you bum ass niggas.

[Parks]

Yo, dawg, you just said. I was so happy when I found out they were fake.

[Ish]

I'm being. I'm joking. I'm being tongue in cheek.

[Parks]

No, he seriously sent me the exclamation points. I was like, yes.

[Melissa Ford]

Listen, I would say that you were ambivalent.

[Ish]

No, I was more than ambivalent Mel.

[Joe Budden]

You can get the fuck out today in 2025. I don't want to hear them words. I don't want to hear no big words in 2025. I ain't gonna hold you ambivalent. Your ass the fuck outta here if you gonna start that shit today. Oh, man. Oh, man. All right, all right. Feeling great. Yes. Mic check. Mic check. The levels. The levels, the levels, the levels. The levels. We back are good. Got a new laptop. These buttons here.

[Ish]

Fast as hell.

[Corey]

Struggling. I used to open that up. It was playing the same you played for the last.

[Parks]

Oh, you didn't see that? As soon as I opened the laptop up, started playing 50 Cent.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, that laptop needs to go. Yeah, it was over. I had. I had its run. Drop sound and Chris be smacking a.

[Parks]

Laptop around like y'all having sex.

[Joe Budden]

Man, I smack around.

[Ish]

What's up?

[Joe Budden]

Smack around.

[Corey]

That's not good comment.

[Ish]

Don't stop this. Y'all don't start this. Come on. 20, 25.

[Joe Budden]

Don't start this.

[Parks]

Y. I don't even remember the last time I got smacked.

[Ish]

Oh, there you go. Get your last word out. Yeah, I don't get the last word. But you've been smacked, yeah? What?

[Parks]

Yeah, I remember the last time.

[Corey]

I remember the last time I got smacked.

[Parks]

Actually, I don't. Yeah. Shout out to the doctor. I might have got.

[Joe Budden]

Shout out to the doctor.

[Ish]

I see that, bro.

[Parks]

You never had a fight before, right? What?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

You didn't. I'm not trying to be funny. I'm asking you a question. My next one could be today. You never had your first fight. Stop playing with me. Never had no fight. Why do you think I never had a fight? Cause his whole some people never had fights before, fam. Why do you think I haven't, though?

[Corey]

He must have fought his brother.

[Parks]

Talk to me. Why you think I haven't? You told us you got picked up and dropped off every day. That has nothing to do with him.

[Ish]

He might have got in a fight before his driver arrived. Sometimes in the hallway, I saw that driver. Yeah, right. Make fun of you for having shit like that. You fight the.

[Joe Budden]

That got dropped off at school. Had to have a little scrap when tried to take their little lunchbox, you know, I used to have some fly lunchboxes.

[Corey]

X Men.

[Joe Budden]

He ate the gold.

[Parks]

Yeah, I said, or.

[Joe Budden]

Or what? Or what?

[Parks]

Ate your fruit snacks. You think I made a chomp?

[Joe Budden]

Chomp?

[Ish]

You just took it, right?

[Parks]

Hey, yo, Today is.

[Ish]

You got Bravo chips. Give it. Give them. Bravo, bravo.

[Parks]

The wife. Oh, man, they Made you run your fruit snacks.

[Joe Budden]

All right. Feels good to be back. Feels good.

[Ish]

It feels good to be back.

[Joe Budden]

Good to see everybody. Y'all looking good. Y'all smelling good, fans. We appreciate you. Let's get to it, man. New laptop got sounding crisp in the house. A little better.

[Corey]

Converters.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I ain't gonna hold you.

[Parks]

Bop. This is.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, don't teach him nothing.

[Parks]

Don't teach him nothing.

[Joe Budden]

Him and Jamel, he'll never heard this.

[Parks]

Mark like this.

[Ish]

What's that? This your Jersey? Mic check.

[Joe Budden]

1, 2, 1 2. Mike Shack, 1, 2, 1, 2. Treat me right, I'll be good to you. Nah, this laptop got some crack in it.

[Ish]

I hear that shit sound a little different.

[Parks]

I can hear that.

[Corey]

And that boat's pumping.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I mean, shout out to wherever you might be listening from. Shout out to the first and last time listeners out there. Always for the ladies. Always, always for the ladies. Big info in the building, huh? They talking about shout out to the haters out there, wherever you might be listening from all over the world. Big Jersey. Big Jersey.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

This when I get up from the bar, start shaking, make eye contact with her itch. Hate me cause he don't. He don't know how to hold on. Now I turn it off, Let me shoot a hitch. Let me shoot up my man real quick. Let me shoot up my man real quick. Cause he walk around holding his water, waiting. He's doing the cute guy shit. Waiting for the girl to see. I get up gaze. All right, man. All the hoods in New Jersey, New York City. What up, what up, what up, what up? Mark ain't got no moves.

[Parks]

I don't know it.

[Joe Budden]

Mark don't know this song.

[Parks]

It's his first time hearing it.

[Ish]

So happy to be here with y'all today.

[Joe Budden]

Feel so good. Feels so good. Mark go get you going to Starbucks. Go get yourself something to drink, man. Little toothpaste medicine bothering you? Hold up now, hold up now. They talk about Boston, Connecticut, whole dmv, what's poppin out there? Carolinas, what's going on out there? Atlanta, Alabama, Chicago. What's poppin out there? Detroit, what's going on out there? Wake it up. Wake it up out there.

[Ish]

I'm surprised to see your suitcase.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, man.

[Parks]

What you say? What?

[Joe Budden]

Yo, don't talk no more. I don't know what y n do, huh?

[Ish]

He said just skate music. I ain't know y'all skating in Jersey, yo. Thought y just stole cars.

[Joe Budden]

You rob people wild what Philly niggas did.

[Parks]

Shoot people and took their shahada.

[Joe Budden]

See, I'm good.

[Ish]

Them about, you know, who we mad at? Them about? We still mad.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. I mean, shout to everybody. It was outside this weekend. Rockon was popping, boy.

[Ish]

All the subgroups out there, all the communities out there, I'm convinced that what is meant to be will be.

[Joe Budden]

Even the star.

[Ish]

Declare that you belong to me.

[Joe Budden]

Got love too Good. Not over between you and me.

[Parks]

I.

[Ish]

Don'T wanna, don't wanna be free.

[Joe Budden]

Let me fix Mark up a little bit. Hey, so we get it. My. Hey, happy to be back. We get it.

[Ish]

Celebrating this. I gotta read my New Year's part. Hey.

[Joe Budden]

Let'S get it.

[Parks]

Without knowing that life brings a chance.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, ish. There you go. Okay, Mel, who doing this verse? Right here. Who's this?

[Melissa Ford]

Ralph Tres Bant.

[Ish]

Boom.

[Joe Budden]

Big Mel, let's go. Mel.

[Ish]

You wasn't born, that's born 87. Yeah, he wasn't born.

[Joe Budden]

He's born 87. All right, man, time to get to it. Time to get to it. But I'm letting this verse rock. I totally anticipate being here for a hot second. Oh, it felt so good not driving to Queens this morning. Hey, come on.

[Corey]

I felt good driving here now.

[Joe Budden]

For nothing, huh?

[Corey]

I felt good driving here.

[Ish]

Good.

[Corey]

I haven't driven in weeks.

[Joe Budden]

Good, good. Oh, Lord, Lord, Lord, Lord. Do I even remember how to pop? I don't know if I remember how to pause, but we gonna see. We gonna see. Keep this applause going. Microphone check, Microphone check. One, two. What is this? Best broadcast in the entire world. So happy to be here with y'all today. Just applause going. God damn it. Oh, Flip. And Mel and Mark. Mark, Mark, Mark. All right, what episode is this?

[Corey]

789.

[Joe Budden]

Welcome to episode 789 of the JOE Button Podcast, brought to you by Fueled by Powered by Prize Picks. Prize pigs. Gang, I'm your humble gracious gr. Oh, my God. So grateful. So happy and grateful that the grateful is so happy to be with y'all today here with a few very amazing people to my right. You know the fucking vibes, the beautiful, the highly intelligent, the loquacious, all that bullshit. Melissa Ford is in the building. Make some noise. Totally abandoned. The origins of. Totally abandoned. The origins of hot and bothered Numbers going through the roof now that she got with the program. Come on, now. Come on.

[Corey]

Wait, what you doing on there now?

[Melissa Ford]

I'm doing the same shit.

[Joe Budden]

No, she's not. I am.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm doing the exact same shit.

[Joe Budden]

Not at all.

[Melissa Ford]

Yes, I am.

[Parks]

Pot more, wearing less.

[Ish]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Corey]

That little trampoline shit.

[Melissa Ford]

Well, I mean, you know, it's a bone density.

[Joe Budden]

Don't do that again. Don't. Don't relate it to bone density.

[Melissa Ford]

That's hate.

[Joe Budden]

Just jump on the trampoline.

[Melissa Ford]

That's hate.

[Joe Budden]

And talk about the weed shit without talking about Perry Mennon. Hey to her. Right to.

[Parks]

All right.

[Joe Budden]

Y'all know the vibes, huh? You seen him on tmz.

[Ish]

That's true.

[Joe Budden]

You seen him. You seen the boy. You seen him. TMZ at the front.

[Parks]

Yo, send me the phone.

[Ish]

How did you get that? Tmz. Who'd you text? Hey, yo, you know, y'all niggas are so washed up, y'all, you know, I gotta say that. They called me. I'm Queens Flip, nigga.

[Joe Budden]

They reached out to him.

[Ish]

They reached out to my mama. Mom called me, and I called in big.

[Joe Budden]

Queen's flip is in the building. Queen's getting the money to his, right.

[Ish]

Clap for me, nigga. Hold up. I was about to take your hands out your sweat in class.

[Parks]

I was about to ask you what you did on tmz.

[Ish]

Talked about your man negative negatively. Come on.

[Parks]

No.

[Ish]

Hell, no. No. He gave a perfect answer. But you know, you know these niggas. We gonna get to it later.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, we'll get into it later.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

King Wah, wah. Elizabeth. Elizabeth's finest. Big issues in the building, my nigga.

[Ish]

You gonna bald again. But you good. Every time he go bald again, he try to grow his shit out.

[Joe Budden]

He tried to do the S curl shit.

[Ish]

He tried to bring the S curl, man around this time of the year, he gets stressed. The summer it cools down for this shit backwards, nigga.

[Joe Budden]

This shit backwards. Got you. Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building with us.

[Ish]

Got the crispy pants on.

[Joe Budden]

This nigga will not let no air flow through his pants.

[Ish]

Never. He got to cool it down.

[Joe Budden]

Mark, how you feeling, man?

[Ish]

I'm not feeling good, man. I got a crazy toothache. They just got over a cold, man. It's been the nightmare since you. Since you've been going. You keep getting sick, Mo. You got me sick last time, man. You got me.

[Joe Budden]

I called.

[Ish]

Oh, yeah, I got you. I got the nova from you. The Nova next week. Yeah, I got real sick. It's daycare. It's daycare.

[Joe Budden]

The dirty ass kids.

[Parks]

Israel.

[Ish]

That's real right on the yard.

[Parks]

Took my doctor to the. My daughter to the doctor today. That all the little kids up respiratory.

[Ish]

All of them, and they still bringing nasty ass kids to the daycare.

[Parks]

Parents got to work.

[Ish]

I respect it now. That's what I do now, too. I be like, just, I need you to be quiet for two minutes. Just don't call me.

[Joe Budden]

Two minutes.

[Ish]

Give him some water, drop his ass right in the room and run.

[Joe Budden]

I heard you talking earlier about the, the 800 milligram Motrin. And how be having you woozy.

[Parks]

Only one of us, which was you.

[Joe Budden]

Woozy, which was on brand. Wait, what? All right, hold on. You got back up. You got back up. Wait, what happened?

[Ish]

We got action.

[Joe Budden]

The 800 milligram Motrin, it could be having your Uzi too.

[Parks]

Having your woozy, strong.

[Joe Budden]

You be dizzy a little bit.

[Parks]

Yo, I remember. Don't lie. Can't drive on that one. I only had Percocet one time in my life.

[Ish]

Being dizzy and disoriented.

[Joe Budden]

Hold up.

[Ish]

I had a 800 milligram. Cause I got a toothache.

[Parks]

Did you just compare a 800 milligram to a perk? No, I was about to tell them.

[Ish]

That'S some light skin. That's some light skin.

[Joe Budden]

Shit.

[Parks]

The only time I ever had a perk. Right, Right. I, I, I had a different type of headache. I went to the doctor. I got a perk for that.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, what the. You ain't get your perk for me?

[Parks]

No, listen, let me tell you. I come home and I'm like, yo, dog, them, they gave me the CAT scan, all that. The whole room was spinning. This was taking two and three. He said. I said, yo, how the you just be walking around on perks? The room felt like it was spinning.

[Joe Budden]

Wild.

[Parks]

No, huh?

[Ish]

For one perk?

[Parks]

Yes.

[Melissa Ford]

Half a perk.

[Parks]

That 30 or something. I don't know what the milligrams was. I just know. I came over, ask this. How do he do it? He like, ish. You know, I give you that serious low tone ish. I have a high tolerance for drugs.

[Ish]

You do.

[Parks]

Cause that, yo, I swear, the bro. The whole room was spinning, bro.

[Joe Budden]

The good perks, too. Oh, so proud of myself. Keno gave me the good molly on vacation. I threw it out. Oh, oh, I threw it out.

[Ish]

Yo, what's up with you today? You?

[Corey]

I might still be holding some of that. I ain't take it.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I didn't take it. I, I threw it out. But I was forgetting to throw it out. And it wasn't a whole bunch of garbage cans where we was at. So on the way out, I take. I grabbed the molly, give it to, like, I'll throw it out at the airport. Give it to the monkeys, we don't get out.

[Melissa Ford]

No.

[Parks]

Why would you give.

[Joe Budden]

What is wrong with you?

[Parks]

What you mean? Animal tested out there chilling. They be jumping from tree to tree.

[Corey]

That's Pete. They're gonna call PETA on you.

[Ish]

All right, Call PETA.

[Parks]

I hear you.

[Joe Budden]

It looked like the good shit, too, but I just threw it out. I changed. I changed.

[Ish]

You flew private. You ain't bringing that shit back.

[Corey]

Why?

[Ish]

You didn't bring it back?

[Joe Budden]

No, I don't want to take it.

[Ish]

I mean, give it to people who do.

[Joe Budden]

I don't want to deal drugs.

[Ish]

Fine.

[Melissa Ford]

You don't need a dealing if you're not charging for it. Exchanging money for it.

[Joe Budden]

The drug dealer. I am. Listen, my luck is never the greatest. I'll fucking deal some drugs and the nigga die. And now they come looking for me, talking about it was some fent in the molly. Then I got a snitch on fucking where I got it from. Because I ain't gonna stand tall. I'm not gonna stand tall at all.

[Ish]

I respect the honesty.

[Joe Budden]

Big freeze in the building, huh? Yes, sir.

[Corey]

Welcome back, Freeze.

[Joe Budden]

All right. A few things are changing in 2025. One, I don't want to hear nothing else about Mel's love life. That shit is bland and dry, and until it spices up, until she come in here and spice it up, I don't want to hear nothing about that dry shit. 1. But more importantly, this podcast is not to discuss music while me and Ice are not here. It's over. Corey, you are under strict instructions. Press the space bar whenever they get to talking about music. And Ice and I. Nah. Here. I didn't even know Ice wasn't here. Last fucking podcast. Ice?

[Ish]

Yeah, he just do what he want. He act like he won.

[Parks]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Corey]

He told us that.

[Parks]

Yeah, they know.

[Joe Budden]

They was talking about music when we was gone.

[Parks]

I didn't know that part.

[Ish]

I miss you.

[Parks]

I saw the clips and said no, y'all didn't.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, they did.

[Melissa Ford]

We tried to skate over as much as possible.

[Parks]

All slipped and fell right on it. Don't do.

[Joe Budden]

Don't. The quad. All right, nigga. All right.

[Ish]

We heard you, nigga.

[Joe Budden]

Milk of the bro. We heard you. We won't do it again. Big part. Elmira's finest. Elmira's finest. Big parks in the building. Y. Corey is here. Poe is here. Erickson is here. Ian and Keeb are here. Savon and Tanner, I think, are still here by remote. Listen, I've been going. I don't Know who's here, who's not, and most importantly, each and every one of you guys are here. How's everybody doing? How's everybody feeling? What's on your mind? Hearts and souls. Talk to me. Talk to me.

[Ish]

Doing great.

[Parks]

Feeling good, man.

[Joe Budden]

Feeling glad to be back.

[Corey]

Word.

[Joe Budden]

That's it.

[Corey]

Glad to have some normalcy.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, it is good to be back.

[Ish]

Feeling great, man.

[Melissa Ford]

Accessibility, shortcuts.

[Joe Budden]

This computer, doing some. All right, all right, girl. Okay, girl.

[Parks]

I was about to say that's the new Siri.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Nah, nah, that's. You must have clicked the button too many times.

[Joe Budden]

I'm hitting the round of applause again in this piece. So I'm back with my friends.

[Corey]

Oh.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, man. Missed you guys. Missed you guys. All right, so where do y'all want.

[Ish]

To start with you start. Where the hell is that?

[Joe Budden]

Okay, how do we do this? How do we do this here? Long story. Longer than it should be. So everybody here knows I have my. My sleepwalking.

[Corey]

You talked about it on the podcast.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, briefly. I mean, I said that I slept. I was sleepwalking somewhere, that I shouldn't have been sleepwalking. True. So I'll expound on that a little bit. Some people here know, those of you out there may not know, for a few months now, I've been having an ongoing battle with this racist couple. He's Turkish, she's Russian. I ain't saying nothing. I ain't saying nothing. He's Turkish, she's Russian, she's a Karen. They have been doing all types of shit for months in terms of just complaining about noise and the smell and seeing black people and having to share spaces with black people. In my one conversation I've had with this lady, in an irritable moment for her, she said, you people will never change. Y'all just refuse to grow. I was alone, so I don't know who you people or y'all was. I took that to me, okay, this lady's racist. And that explains some of the behavior. But that didn't stop. She had. They've had me investigated by the building who loves us here, by the way. They've had me investigated by the owner of the unit. They've complained about electrical outlets for my cars needing to be plugged in. They've complained about anything that you could possibly complain about for months.

[Melissa Ford]

That's a lot of energy.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, but I just be minding my business, so, like, if you're not in my. If you're not in my zone, then. Then that's it. But everybody don't operate like that. So these people have been doing this for months. This has been ongoing while we've been recording. And that's the door I slept. Walked to.

[Parks]

That's the irony, too. That's the ironic piece.

[Joe Budden]

That's the door that I decided to sleepwalk directly to. Butt ass naked. Normally, you know, you would think knock on somebody's door, be like, hey, you good?

[Parks]

Got some sugar?

[Joe Budden]

I seen you over here. You was at my door with your dick out. But no, these people decided to misuse some of the systems that are in place for real victims. And they went to the police to file a report to say that Joe Budden was outside of their door, masturbating on their door. And they don't know if I was there with the intention to r word her and her family. So what would seem like a simple sleepwalking medical condition. No. Turned into something much bigger. So I've been gone for a month having a cause. I had a civil suit. This is my first time having, like, a civil suit. I don't know how these shits go. And it just so happens that the judge. The judge picked every pod recording day to have the trial. Tuesdays, Fridays. So I understand that you fans were a bit perturbed, but sometimes you gotta wait. And if you know anything about me, you know, if I'm not at work, there's a reason that I'm not at work. That's a fact. I love to work. So, yeah, civil suit got to go to trial. So I went to trial. And the first day she got up there, took the stand. Shout out to the judge, too. Before I even get into all that, there's a few people that I want to thank. I want to thank all of the people out there for all the love and support. There was so many of y'all out there that were sending me commercial filming spaces, Y'all were sending me warehouses, y'all were sending me abandoned buildings. Like people out there really, you know, for all. For all the people. There's some people out there that hate, but there's a lot of love and a lot of people really showed up to try to. Hey, any way I can help if y'all need to use this space, as long as y'all need it, you can have it. So that's super, super dope. I want to shout out those people. I want to thank prize picks as well. Shout out to prize picks. I preach all the time about how important it is to align yourselves with companies that don't. That don't fret at the site at the first sight of something that may look problematic. Mark has some experience there. So I do want to shout out to prize picks great people over here. Thank. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. That's really important to me. Really important. Really empowering, really helpful. Wow, wow, wow. Great, great. Shout out to prize because who else do I want to shout out? Who else do I want to shout out? I got shout. I got shout out to ops. I gotta shout out the ops. Y'all niggas must have recognized that this was some medical shit and kept it low a little bit. I don't know if I would have had the same. I don't know that if a story came out, one of y'all sleepwalking it, I would have done the same. But for the most part, it was quiet out there. It was quiet out there. And the cop that put out that statement press release, that was clearly his first time in the content game. He did that shit on New Year's Eve. Where's the Costa Rica? Like, man, get this shit. Two hours, nigga. They got two hours to get their jokes on. Everybody gonna be out having fun, drunk.

[Corey]

They tried to ruin the holiday a little bit.

[Joe Budden]

They tried it, they tried it, they tried it. But we was lit out there. We was lit out there. But I do want to shout out prize picks, the ops, the. The people out there, the fans, the supporters, y'all were extremely helpful in this very difficult time. But anyway, so we go to court. All right. So we go to court.

[Ish]

This is the fastest trial in history, too. Like, how did.

[Joe Budden]

It wasn't fast to me. It wasn't fast to me. I was displaying. True. I was displaced for over a month, so it wasn't fast at all. And every time I thought it would end, it didn't. I don't know nothing about this. So if you tell me, all right, come in on the 12th, I'm like, all right, the 12th, we back. Hell, no. She took the stand, got up there a bunch of white girl tears, cried immediately. She got right to it. And you gotta sit there. You gotta sit there and keep a straight face. Cause the judge is watching. So you gotta be like a human. You can't be like from hip hop.

[Corey]

You wanna be childish?

[Joe Budden]

No, this story gets funnier. I'll tell you when I wanted to be childish. So she get up there and she does all the crying. Oh, my God. I was in fear for my life. And my kids saw this. And to be clear, I saw some of the think pieces out there. It's like, oh, if you were sleepwalking in front of kids, that was horrible. No, this lady showed this video to her kids. So basically, I don't give a fuck about none of that. And then her husband took the stand, and then they were cross examined. And that was day one. But what I learned is, and this is for stalking and lewdness. Stalking. Stalking and lewdness.

[Corey]

How long was the video? How long was the video?

[Joe Budden]

10 seconds. 10 second video. But the stalking is from the day before all of this happened. The third and the fourth. Okay, remember, we heard all that noise.

[Parks]

It was irony that the day we heard all that noise, niggas was throwing bowling balls on the floor.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

I went up there, stood there to see if I heard some noise. Left. The very next day was a sleepwalking shit. Cool. That was the end of day one. But for lewdness, you need to be naked with the intent to sexually gratify yourself. Which is why she lied on that paperwork to say he was masturbating on my door. As if I can't find a million better places to masturbate than that.

[Parks]

But if the shit is on record, that's a dumbass lie. Yeah, but go ahead, proceed.

[Joe Budden]

That's why you need a trial. Cause the whole time I'm saying, hey, we got a video. We can look at the video, right?

[Melissa Ford]

Like the building's video.

[Joe Budden]

And the judge is like, well, everybody's on the hook now. So, yes, the building's video, but they got their own video. Like, it's videos now. Which is why she told that dumbass, he's masturbating on my dude. Whatever the fuck she said. So anyway, that's the end of day one. They asked her if. Well, my lawyer asked her if she thought that I was fully erect in the video. Yo, you know what she said? She said yes.

[Ish]

Wow.

[Melissa Ford]

That's where you wanted to be.

[Ish]

Childish.

[Melissa Ford]

Right there is where you was tight.

[Ish]

You was tight.

[Joe Budden]

Childish.

[Parks]

You was tight.

[Joe Budden]

You got to sit there, just. You just got to want to get naked right there.

[Ish]

You got to sit down with a straight face.

[Parks]

Darkness.

[Ish]

He got. Put this on a table.

[Parks]

Martin, Martin. Be like, ma'am, I don't know what you mean.

[Joe Budden]

Used to.

[Parks]

Helga.

[Joe Budden]

Different around here. Helga. Hey, hey, hey, hey, Russian lady.

[Parks]

Listen, listen.

[Joe Budden]

Helga.

[Ish]

Helga.

[Joe Budden]

So that was a big point of contention. And during this, this civil trial. Is he erect? He touched his penis in this video. So was that masturbating? She says, yes. Yes. So then we gotta wait till the next. The next day we go to court. So we go to court again. Now me and my brain trust are trying to figure out, do we just call my doctor to say, like this is some sleepwalking shit. But if we do that, then he gets cross examined. Then they have, they, they're gonna call an expert witness to rebut that. And this is gonna drag this out out for another few months. What's up? I mean, another few. Pause.

[Parks]

Hey, yo, fam, pause. I would have just hit the doctor like, yo, hey, hey, judge. No, I'd hit the lawyer like, yo, that was just a picture of me. Let me show you something, Judge.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, this is what this looks like. This is what it looks like versus that. Now look at that. Yeah, well, Yanna, so I didn't want. So I didn't want to drag it out. So I did not call. Call my doctor to the stand.

[Ish]

Mm.

[Joe Budden]

Call my girl.

[Melissa Ford]

Nick to the stand.

[Joe Budden]

No, you goddamn right.

[Parks]

I slap the shit out of you.

[Joe Budden]

Goddamn right. I called my baby to the stand. Yes, you nervous as hell. Looks stupid as hell on the stand.

[Ish]

You got that lady go to up. She. I didn't sign up in. Shout the shot, man.

[Joe Budden]

Call my baby, man.

[Ish]

That's a fire. She probably like, yo, I just want the 30 piece I didn't sign up in. That was 60.

[Parks]

What I got to say? What I got to say?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, Cory, that's fire. Yeah. No, I called my girl to the stand.

[Parks]

Hello.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, yo, yo, I'm live on air. I'm talking about the amazing job that you did on the stand. I gotta give it up, gotta give it up. Thank you very much. Laura said, was he flaccid? She said, yes, absolutely, absolutely. Russian bitch.

[Ish]

Right, babe?

[Joe Budden]

Tell them.

[Parks]

They did. He was like, was he at all erect?

[Melissa Ford]

And I said, absolutely not.

[Joe Budden]

Hello. Hello. They try to play my game. They talking about. Yeah, relax, let them take it.

[Parks]

Small video your was on shrimp.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, I'm a grower, not a shower.

[Parks]

Deal with the tiny meat.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Corey]

You took cold water bath before.

[Joe Budden]

You went to sleep. So they asked her a few questions. I'm going let you go because I know you really busy, but tell, tell my amazing co host about your. About me on the stand and the job you think I did.

[Parks]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Budden]

Well, they called you up right, right after.

[Parks]

He is a big, strong black man, and that's how he comes off on the sand. Very confident. And I kept trying to tell him.

[Melissa Ford]

Stop being so goddamn confident. Because it comes.

[Joe Budden]

She wanted me to code switch. Yeah, nigga.

[Parks]

We are trying to make sure this Goes the way we want it to go.

[Joe Budden]

Hello.

[Melissa Ford]

But instead, he's just him.

[Parks]

And he can't help it. His voice comes off strong as hell.

[Melissa Ford]

The first question that was asked to.

[Parks]

Him, he overpowered the entire damn room. Everybody looked at him like, what the hell?

[Melissa Ford]

His deep ass voice.

[Parks]

Then it's in the mic.

[Melissa Ford]

It was just extra.

[Joe Budden]

I'm like this nigga, everywhere he goes.

[Parks]

He just draws attention.

[Joe Budden]

No way. But then I remember where I was at. I said, and I'm embarrassed. I'm so embarrassed by this.

[Parks]

They saw my naked body.

[Ish]

I'm like this.

[Parks]

He did.

[Joe Budden]

He did.

[Parks]

They took some shots at him. They tried to. They took shots at me. I was like, oh, shit.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah. Their lawyer tried to get him. Hey, are you married? Wait, wait, hold up, baby, hold up. They tried to get you? They were like, yeah, that way.

[Parks]

They tried to choose.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, no, no. They said. They asked her, are you married? She said, no. He said, is he married? They try to play my baby. They try to play my baby.

[Ish]

Is he like, you little bitch.

[Parks]

But guess where the judge has my back. She was like, first of all, she answered your question. Relax.

[Melissa Ford]

He's not married, she's not married.

[Parks]

And where's her own.

[Ish]

Yeah, let's. Moving along.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, exactly. But they send any shots they was getting.

[Parks]

But that be that racial stereotypical bullshit.

[Ish]

Yep, you're right.

[Joe Budden]

Ish.

[Parks]

To try to paint you looking like a heathen. You know what I'm saying? Fuck out of here.

[Joe Budden]

All right, babe, let me. I love you. Let me finish. Tell these.

[Parks]

Got Love you too. Bye bye.

[Joe Budden]

So anyway, the truth of the matter is I'm a nudist. I'm a voyer, I'm an exhibitionist. I don't give a. I know somebody seen me naked for 10 seconds. But very embarrassed by this entire ordeal. And I'm disappointed that yo, you're not in court.

[Parks]

You don't got do that.

[Ish]

Them.

[Parks]

No that I'm playing.

[Joe Budden]

But I had to give him. I had to give him a little bit of that. But. But again, long story. Less long shit. I thought it would be over after that. Judge was like, I'm gonna sit on this for the weekend. I'm gonna sit on this for the weekend and come back to it again. I tip my hat to that judge. She was fair, reasonable.

[Parks]

That's all you could ask for.

[Joe Budden]

Like, heard all the testimony, was attentive. She wasn't on no bullshit. And she came back and was like. She gave a whole breakdown, like, of everybody's. Everybody testified of their Body language, their consistencies, their inconsistencies, their reasonability, the credibility. She did say, I smirked a couple of times during the thing, but that lady was getting some bullshit off. Like, it's like, lady. So I hit a couple of smirks, but that was the end of that. And by preponderance of the evidence, kick.

[Parks]

Rocks, get out of here.

[Joe Budden]

Because then she got into what some of these things mean. Stalking means by statute 8.2 or more times where you have harassed, threatened, made somebody in fear for their life, yada, yada, all of this shit. That didn't apply to me. So she was like, by preponderance of the evidence, no, I don't find that. That is stalking. And lewdness in statute 6.423 colons, that you have to be nude where there's reasonable expectation for you to be seen. I wasn't seen. That ring video means if you see me through a ring door, that don't mean nothing. Like, nobody was in the hallway, nobody seen shit. And you have to wanna grab. Be in the act of or trying.

[Parks]

To pleasure you yourself.

[Joe Budden]

Pleasure yourself. And she said Mr. Button was not erect. Mr. Button was not masturbating. If y'all want to make jokes about my Digus Mall, go ahead.

[Ish]

I'm workshopping a few right now. Chinese. Just Chinese, right? Look at you.

[Corey]

I'm glad that you added this, his story to the end of that.

[Joe Budden]

So she said, Mr. But was not erect. He was not masturbating. The one time that he touched his penis, he appeared to be trying to cover himself. Mr. Budden was not trying to forcibly enter your. Because that's what they say. He was trying to forcibly enter my place. But the video shows me trying to put a keypad. It looked like I had to pee. It looked like a 10 second video of me having to pee. She was like, he's shifting his weight from one leg to another leg as if he had to use the bathroom. He's not forcibly trying to enter. He was out there for a total of nine seconds. And it is for that that I find. Yeah, no, it's over for that. So, Mr. Button, please take the necessary precautions to make sure that this never happens again.

[Parks]

Put the zap it on your door.

[Joe Budden]

And all of y'all get the fuck out.

[Parks]

Oh, they didn't even order you to do shit, though.

[Joe Budden]

The order at the verdict. No.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah. Because he found her not guilty of anything.

[Joe Budden]

Well, she said that I'm gonna wear. I'm gonna wear pajamas. There you go.

[Parks]

And you got a Couple dollars, you can get some nice ones.

[Joe Budden]

Like, it's a real simple fix. I'm gonna wear some boxer briefs to bed in the event that I take a stroll, y'all. Hey, let me tell you something. You have my Aunt Catherine call me. Y'all have my aunt. Y'all made my Aunt Catherine leave Wednesday night church service to call and say a prayer over the phone. My Aunt Kathryn don't call me for none of this Internet bullshit. Said, joey, I seen some things. She said, joey, I seen some things in the news I want you to know. We praying for you, darling. Come on, let's say a prayer right now. I love you, Aunt Katherine. You fucking motherfuckers. Y'all had the damn bartenders looking at me away before they handed me my juice when I went out. They gave me the juice, talking about I seen some stories. It was such a wild thing to have to answer to in the streets.

[Parks]

Oh, really? You had to answer? You had to?

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Parks]

Nigga, fuck you think happened to our phones? Fuck phones, nigga. I walked in the barbershop 10 minutes after the shit dropped.

[Joe Budden]

They looked at me like going to the barbershop.

[Ish]

That was your fault, though.

[Joe Budden]

Why is that my fault?

[Ish]

You walk in a barbershop with them jokes about to fly, nigga, nigga, you.

[Parks]

Don'T know what's going to drop and what the news about to be on the way. You ain't gonna get a haircut.

[Joe Budden]

No, that's not true. Y'all had a month. Y'all. Y'all had before the news went public. Y'all knew my business.

[Ish]

We had lead time. That's what I'm saying.

[Parks]

That's not that press release going out that morning. My. That's different. That went out, and I'm gonna shout it like, yo, what up?

[Joe Budden]

Nah, what's up?

[Parks]

My family from down, everybody, yeah, what.

[Joe Budden]

Is what they say and what y'all saying?

[Parks]

Said, I gave them niggas the emojis and put shake in my head. What the you think?

[Joe Budden]

Thanks.

[Parks]

I ain't explain that.

[Ish]

Everybody that call said, yo, tell your man put some clothes on. I just ignored them. Everybody had jokes.

[Parks]

I'm at the New Year's party, I see Mayo. Yo, man, what up? He don't even say hi. Tell your man put some clothes on.

[Corey]

Like this.

[Parks]

The kind of shit niggas is dealing with in the streets.

[Ish]

Copo, too, called me. I'm like, yo, Jeff, yo, tell Joe put some clothes on. I change the subject quick.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not talking about that nigga freak ass Boy, Yeah, listen, I'm gonna wear. I'm gonna wear. I'm gonna wear pajamas, man.

[Parks]

There we go.

[Joe Budden]

Wear pajamas.

[Parks]

All right. We got resolution.

[Melissa Ford]

Maybe one of those collars that zaps you if you, like, leave the.

[Ish]

Like, she needed right in the ch.

[Melissa Ford]

Extra protection, you know, Protect him from himself.

[Ish]

And what about the sleepwalking part? Like, you going. You got like some treatments or something?

[Joe Budden]

Yes, I'm gonna take a sleep test. Okay. I'm going to take a sleep test.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

You tried me understand with that. Oh, so you asleep walking up. Ever took a sleep test? Like, nope. It's like this doctor's note that you got. Your cousin works there, right? Wow. Like, yeah, your trial is kind of funny, but you can't laugh. You cannot laugh. You can't laugh. But trial is cut. I ain't going to hold you. It was a very. It was a learning experience. I was just happy. I was happy.

[Parks]

That different than the DOC Trial. Funny when you come out on the positive side of it. Cause this shit ain't funny if it go the other way. And think about this.

[Ish]

And it's civil.

[Parks]

Imagine if the judge wasn't understanding.

[Joe Budden]

No, she said it. She said, this is one of the rare. This is probably the only case I've. One of the only cases I've seen where there's a video. Video. When there's no video. It's your word versus they word. And that could go a little too different.

[Ish]

Yes, it would have went a whole different.

[Parks]

Whole different.

[Ish]

You get what I'm saying?

[Parks]

They paint you as the big, black, scary man. We timid and afraid. Yeah, right.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. But that's what I was grateful for. I was grateful for the growth and the maturation part on my side. Because, you know, sometimes, look, they'd have caught me 10 years ago. So my response would have been rebelliousness and to act out and to really. Oh, that's what you think of black people. Show you. But no, it wasn't time for that. Yeah. I was grateful that I got to show, like, who I am in there.

[Parks]

Which is a human being, as opposed to the rapper. Cause rappers fit in a box, you know what I'm saying? Like black rapper Rich braggadocious. And they think we don't have sense. They think we can't conjugate verbs. They think we can't speak with concise thoughts. All of that. So. And you an too in arrogance with the intelligence. It's like, all right, yeah, he a little different.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. No, I was. I was proud of myself. I was proud of Myself, that display for a month was a little annoying. But other than that, job well done. Again, thank you, guys. Thank you guys for holding it down for the month. I appreciate y'all. Boy, it was long. Boy, it was long. But we bike. Yeah, but we bike.

[Corey]

Can't wait to have my studio back.

[Parks]

I would like to have my studio back, though. Damn. Kicking us out. Get the never.

[Corey]

We can stay there as long as we want.

[Joe Budden]

But the people might have known some people. They might have known a few people at the police precinct. But I know, guys.

[Melissa Ford]

Your God don't play about you.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, y'all know y'all know some humans. I know God. I always tell y'all, my God don't play about me. And good choice by you opps. That would have been a real bad move for anybody thinking that sleepwalking was gonna be the thing that was gonna put Joe Button down for the cow. Some of y'all know I'm a little more resilient than that. Some of y'all. Yeah, that just would have been bad. That would have been low hanging fruit. Y'all know y'all good choice. Good choice, but. And I'm glad. I'm grateful. All praise due to higher power. Couldn't have done it without him.

[Melissa Ford]

There's no civil recourse for, like, the statement that the cop put out because that just seemed like a really allegedly.

[Corey]

And yeah, guilty. Innocent until proven guilty. All that was in there.

[Parks]

So I think I get why they did that, though.

[Ish]

Why it makes sense.

[Parks]

It makes a lot of sense. You gotta figure once the news hit and these. These Internet detectives blowing their phone up. So now it's like, yo, we getting calls and people stopping by trying to ask all these questions, yo, what's going on? What's going on? Let us put a statement out, address it. They probably ain't dealt with no like that, clearly. Let's put a statement out just to. In their mind and we just putting something out to address it.

[Joe Budden]

No, it's not like I'm not rolling with that. I'm not rolling with that at all. The lewdness charge is fourth degree lewdness. Like, without this civil shit. That charge was getting thrown at. That was.

[Parks]

But they said that was getting the fuck out of there. I think they addressed that. I don't know the article about it.

[Joe Budden]

But wait, before the civil trial even started, I had a date for the criminal shit, which should have been 1, 2, 3. They pushed that date. Of course they pushed that date. I also filed a whole bunch of countercharges artists that mysteriously took over a month to get where they needed to be. So if you're asking me what I think again, I feel like they know some people probably, and maybe some calls.

[Corey]

The fact that that dropped New Year's.

[Joe Budden]

Eve, on New Year's Eve, three weeks.

[Corey]

After the four weeks after the incident, says that there was a little bit of strategy.

[Parks]

Well, no, I know the strategy. Attempted to do press releases. The strategy was, yo, Uncle Murder got this rapper up dropping. Let's make sure he know so he could get his bars in there.

[Joe Budden]

Uncle Murder, your thirsty ass was finished. I ain't going to hold you. That was fire. I would have did the same.

[Parks]

I even had no more beat left.

[Joe Budden]

He was done. He was done. He went back in the booth. Throw us on there, Joe. Button your butt. Naked ass was in the hallway walking. I was listening like. I get it. I get it. Shout to Uncle Murder, man. Anybody else I need to shout out on my sleepwalking? Let me just make sure your lawyer. My lawyer. My. My lawyer. That guy's a dog. That guy's a dog. Listen, y'all go get these dads or whatever, wherever they got the attorneys from. On paper, it read Johnson and Johnson Firm. Whatever the fuck it read. We had have the network it Red got they ass ate up in here. They got you got. Go get you a hungry. That's just about it.

[Parks]

It's the video and the video. No video. They would have hung your black ass off the balcony.

[Joe Budden]

They were giving a case. Yeah, they were giving a case. I will say that. Like lewdness and stalking for what we have on this video. Yeah. No. Shout. Yeah. Shout out to my lawyer. Who. Shout out to the judge. Shout out to prize pick. Shout out to fans. Shout out to the haters. I think that's it. I think that's it.

[Ish]

Does this change how you feel about being in this space? Particularly having to walk past them or see them going into the crib or seeing them on the elevator like, you got, like, enemies. They, like, for real. Like, does it make you not want to be here?

[Joe Budden]

No, it did. It did for a minute during the month. Again, I was more worried about y'all. Not really me. Like, I don't feel like my people should be subject to certain things, certain profiling and certain surveillance that I know was going on, even in my absence. But for me, no, listen. I came here, I rented this place. I want to shout out to her, too.

[Parks]

I was going to say the owner.

[Joe Budden]

Of this unit is fly. Like, be clear. The owner of this Unit is absolutely fly. Loves me, loves this, loves it all. And I had such a great time in this building that they didn't leaked all my business. I could talk that I purchased multiple units in the building, so.

[Parks]

But that's where the problem started.

[Joe Budden]

Yep.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Parks]

That's where the class.

[Joe Budden]

That's when the beef start.

[Parks]

That is when the beefstar comes in. We've been in here for two years. Everybody in the business building loves us. The cleaning people with us, the managers with us. Everybody, like, likes us. In your place, once you buy a unit here, it change. Oh, what?

[Joe Budden]

Or two.

[Parks]

Yeah, we bought a couple. Look, look.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, no. And no, no, no, no, no. And. And then.

[Parks]

And my unit might cost more than eight units.

[Ish]

You only told us one two.

[Joe Budden]

I have a few. Don't worry about it. Mind your business. But then that Ferrari popped up. Then. And then that Cullinan popped up. Yeah, like, I'm gonna fix this little.

[Parks]

No, dog. The problem started. Pretty cars. Yeah, no, I know the problem started because even the over there was like, oh, yeah, you renting, right? Yeah. Let me get that other parking spot. You understand what I'm saying? Like, just the fact that you saying dog.

[Joe Budden]

Whistling.

[Parks]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Speaking in cold. No, that's true.

[Parks]

Oh, you bought something. Let me go research what he bought.

[Joe Budden]

So to answer your question, maybe I would feel away if I were a renter. I'm an owner. You can't. Nah. That mean I'm taking my. My owner belt to where I rent too. That mean I'm on hoas. I'm on the zooms. I'm on. I'm on the town hall meetings. I'm there, so. And I think that those people, the racist people I'm talking about, have sullied themselves with their behavior.

[Ish]

Oh, that's good.

[Joe Budden]

Like, people like me, like, I treat people with respect. And. And I'm kind and I'm polite.

[Corey]

Yeah, we fly with a lot of.

[Parks]

The neighbors in the B. N. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

So. So that had you. Y'all got him, the nice guy out there saying he did. What did y'all say he did? No.

[Parks]

And. And for the people, because I'm sure the board saw the video. They have no choice. Now I'm gonna hear what y'all said happened versus what I saw happen. It makes y'all look crazy.

[Ish]

They got no credibility to any rational.

[Parks]

Person who makes y'all look crazy.

[Joe Budden]

And that's what the judge said. The judge was like, I understand what your perception was. And being afraid. And again, naked man at your door. I get It, Yeah, for sure.

[Corey]

You can be tight regardless.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, the accountability part for me was, yo, let me bounce. Let me get my people out of there. That was a little crazy. That was a lot. Yeah, I forgot what I was about to say.

[Parks]

Accountability piece with the naked man and judge said something about, oh, the judge.

[Joe Budden]

Is like, I understand that that's your perception of what went on, but no, it's not our job. Cuz. They lawyer kept saying, well, what other reason could he have been? Could. What other reason would there for him be naked outside the door if he wasn't trying to r word sleepwalking. Like, he kept saying that. And in the final verdict, the judge was like, like you kept saying that. But it's not the court's job to assume why he was out there. Like, it's your job to prove all.

[Parks]

But look, even a lawyer's. That's like saying, yo, what was that black guy doing walking down the street at 3 o'clock in the morning? It's no different. What your perception of me walking down the street is, nigga, I might have just got off work at one, you know what I'm saying? Like all of that shit and then that goes into the mindset of the people that you can only perceive this one way.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

You know what I'm saying? And be closed minded to any other potential. Yo, this shit.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, but that shit, I'm not gonna lie. Like, it was a little jarring for me. Like, we've been over here over 20 years.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

I've never had that encounter. I've never had one encounter. This shit over here is a melting pot.

[Parks]

And I tell people that all the time. Like, this neighborhood is not that.

[Joe Budden]

It's not that.

[Parks]

It's not that. I've never been unfairly treated around here. And again, we've been here 20.

[Joe Budden]

Over 20 years.

[Parks]

Yes. Like, I've never had those issues. Because, dog, you don't know in this neighborhood who you pulling over.

[Corey]

Right?

[Parks]

So you can't do that bullshit. Because you don't. You could be pulling over fucking Quincy Jones, son. You could be pulling over Judge blah, blah blah's nephew. You don't know who the fuck you pulling over here? Everybody got a couple dollars. I've never had no real, real racial interactions here.

[Joe Budden]

Never. They start watching the pod, they try to fucking. They brought up some shit. Mel said they was just. Yeah, they was going crazy. Glad it's over with.

[Parks]

Indeed.

[Joe Budden]

So happy to be back here with y'all. Learning. Learning experience for sure.

[Melissa Ford]

Well, last question. What's the Building's stance on all of this. Because I know that they were siding with you just in terms of tactics that she was using to, you know, just become a nuisance.

[Joe Budden]

Y'all do know, outside of. Let me try to answer you out. Outside of my civil case, the state of New Jersey, there's an ongoing battle with entrepreneurs and people that work from home and what that entails.

[Corey]

That's everywhere. I think at this point, post pandemic, the entire.

[Parks]

It changed. It changed the landscape. Yeah, it changed. But they.

[Joe Budden]

They trying to. And I can't speak very well in New Jersey. They back and forth.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

In the paperwork court side of it.

[Corey]

Sure. I'm sure that's happening all over. So I'm saying.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, hopefully.

[Corey]

Yeah. I even thought about that when I moved to my new place in terms of, like, the lease agreements and all that, because most lease agreements have a commercial clause in there. And it's like, well, I work from home, so how does this work?

[Parks]

And I want to write it off that, too.

[Joe Budden]

Exactly.

[Parks]

So. So the build.

[Joe Budden]

The build. Oh, go ahead.

[Parks]

You want to put that in your company name, etc. Etc. Or so it'll just be an easier thing for taxation.

[Corey]

Right.

[Parks]

How do you do that?

[Joe Budden]

The building stance, as of today. Cause that may change. Lawyers get involved and things go different. But the building stance is not only should you be allowed to work from home, but if you say that Joe Budden can't do that there, then you saying that to the people that zoom. The people that. The YouTubers, you're saying that to the twitchers, streamers, lawyers. Streamers, lawyers, teachers.

[Parks]

Because courts have been closed. A lot of people, a lot of courts haven't opened back up. A lot of court is zoom.

[Ish]

Yeah. Telemedicine, all of that.

[Parks]

All of that shit. Yeah. So now you're saying that they can't work.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. But I mean, you know that the lawyer's jobs is to put the gray area words in there, which is commercial broadcast. Like, what is commercial? Commercial. Right. What is that?

[Corey]

It's not like we're selling wares necessarily out of the apartment.

[Parks]

We're podcasting, especially in a real estate arena.

[Corey]

Right.

[Parks]

It's really just residential, industrial, commercial.

[Joe Budden]

Right.

[Parks]

And then the industrial commercial could be one in the same. You get what I'm saying? So if you're not using this particular unit for residential purposes, what's the other outcome?

[Joe Budden]

Right.

[Parks]

Commercial, you know what I'm saying? So it could get. Get.

[Joe Budden]

Nah. But we be. That's why we be making Cory sleep in there.

[Parks]

I know, I know.

[Joe Budden]

Cory got sleeping there 2 nights, 3n.

[Parks]

I seen a little washcloth with the Dow.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, we went. I said we went to Boss Furniture. Nigga, I said, are you talking about. No. So the building stands and again, that is subject to change. But I'm not even worried about that. Right. Because the blessed part is I'll go buy a place.

[Corey]

True.

[Joe Budden]

And that'll be the end.

[Corey]

Although even with that, you never know what your neighbors like. That's. Thank God for my neighbors neighborhood.

[Joe Budden]

I'm blessed.

[Corey]

Even if you move to the burbs or whatever it may be, still gotta be careful. The neighbors might trip out and raise the same questions that they would in.

[Joe Budden]

A. I'm blessed enough to be able to buy something where the neighbors could be a little away.

[Corey]

Yeah, for sure.

[Melissa Ford]

In a freestanding house.

[Corey]

House, like it's still the same commercial versus residential can still pop up no matter where you're at.

[Joe Budden]

I figured resident versus resident then. Because in your house you could do what you want. In your house, you shoot whatever the you want to shoot.

[Parks]

You can't be having pool parties at 2 in the morning.

[Joe Budden]

But yeah, and blasting music and having the people from the pool party leave and piss on the neighbor's lawn.

[Melissa Ford]

Right.

[Joe Budden]

Like it's what was going on in 2012.

[Parks]

I knew it was you was talking about, cuz.

[Joe Budden]

Why would somebody do that? If you have a pool party now, you're going to leave and pee on the neighbor's lawn was terrible.

[Parks]

The liquor hit you when you was walking to the car. Had to go.

[Ish]

That's crazy.

[Parks]

Got to go. Got to go find a tree, a.

[Joe Budden]

Bush, the neighbor's lawn.

[Ish]

Stupid.

[Joe Budden]

Anyway, man, listen. Glad it's over.

[Parks]

Indeed.

[Joe Budden]

Happy to be back with y'all. Happy to be back with y'all again. Extremely grateful for the job that y'all did most of it and yeah, man, yeah.

[Corey]

Good to be back.

[Parks]

Word. And I'm glad all that is over or. I was so glad to be back here. I was here at 9:00.

[Joe Budden]

You was early. You was early.

[Parks]

Hell yeah. I gotta go to Queen's it.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know though. I kind of. I had so much fun at the trial. I got kind of the court bug. Now hold up now. I got the bug just while I'm selling cases. I'm suing the out of people. I'm suing the out of like seven. I got mad, mad complaints. I'm getting back to court. That was all right a little bit.

[Parks]

I'll tell you.

[Joe Budden]

If you didn't have to be serious. Like, that was. That was quite the experience. I've never been through anything like that.

[Parks]

They good at it.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, they lost.

[Parks]

I know. I'm just telling you, though.

[Joe Budden]

They lost. They lost.

[Parks]

I got the inside. I got the inside.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, my God. Don't play about me. That's it. That's it. I was shocked to see so many people out there that wanted me to lose. Oh, my God. Oh, my Lord.

[Ish]

That's terrible.

[Joe Budden]

They wanted all of us.

[Parks]

It wasn't. That was. Yeah, yeah. It's over for y'all now. What you gonna do, y'all?

[Joe Budden]

What if. What is people's obsession with wanting to see me humbled? It's gonna take more than my naked body on sleep. It's gonna take more than the little shrimp dick.

[Parks]

What's up with the mini, man?

[Joe Budden]

The fuck is wrong with these people now? But anyway, time for my favorite part. I seen up. Hey, hey. Yeah. Nah, I seen it. I seen it. You goddamn right.

[Parks]

Seen what?

[Joe Budden]

I done lost this. Prize picks gigs, price going up. They knew. They knew. You goddamn right they knew.

[Parks]

They was like, yo, y'all should stop saying that, because y'all know what's gonna happen if he lose the prize picks.

[Joe Budden]

No, that was funny. That was funny.

[Parks]

Patreon's going up.

[Joe Budden]

But again, I preach this. I preach the importance of getting with companies. I've been on the other side.

[Parks]

Yeah, you said that. You said that.

[Joe Budden]

I've been on the other side of. Of, you know, companies will put the wording. Wording in the contract. Hey, if you're charged with something, it's over. No, no, no, no, no, no. No morals clause. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Ish]

That's crazy.

[Joe Budden]

No, just charge. If I'm convicted of something, then it's over, but charge? You just letting people.

[Parks]

Dumb niggas be like, any negative press, we out.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. No, no, no. I was very happy. I'm very happy with prospects. I'm not gonna lie. I am. I'm very, very, very, very happy. So happy. Now my favorite part of the show. Prize picks. All right, it is playoff time, and it's now or never. I got third place in my fantasy league, which does bring back some return. Third place, and I got four high scores, So I win 12 grand.

[Corey]

Okay?

[Joe Budden]

Something like that. I don't have to pay out, so I've been paying out every year, so that's amazing. It's playoff time, and it's now or never. So don't miss out on the best place to win real cash while watching the playoffs. And you can now win up to 1,000 times your money, only on, you guessed it, prize picks. Who am I going with? I want to pick upset. Stay away from I want to pick upset. I do.

[Parks]

It's a lot of parody.

[Joe Budden]

Do I think. Do I think Denver has a shot?

[Corey]

I like the Chargers.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, I was. That's my upset pick.

[Corey]

Yeah. I like the Chargers.

[Joe Budden]

I like the Chargers. I do. And that's it. Pick McConkey, whatever his name is. Pick more on McConkey.

[Corey]

Yeah. Okay.

[Joe Budden]

The Chargers don't win if McConkey don't do something crazy.

[Ish]

So you don't trust ISIS man.

[Parks]

There you go. There's your upset right there.

[Joe Budden]

What?

[Parks]

Big game for pickings.

[Corey]

Y'all usually play them tough, but I think.

[Ish]

I think his trash ass Steelers been on a. A losing streak.

[Joe Budden]

Streak.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, they ain't they?

[Corey]

I don't think it's gonna change the greatest.

[Joe Budden]

But I'm rooting Feist. I'm rooting Feist and the Steelers. My team ain't doing. Lost the number one pick. Stupid. Stupid. Tyreek Hill want to leave.

[Corey]

He do.

[Joe Budden]

How you feel about that?

[Corey]

I ain't like that.

[Parks]

I don't.

[Corey]

I don't mind him wanting to leave. I don't like the way that he did it after the game like that. That was super, super corny, Matt.

[Parks]

Unprofessional.

[Corey]

Yeah. Especially when you had a bad year. Like, that's crazy.

[Ish]

Who's your team? Who's your team?

[Joe Budden]

The Giants. You good?

[Ish]

I'm great.

[Parks]

Y'all gonna get y'alls mopped up. Who?

[Joe Budden]

The Eagles.

[Ish]

I just remember the beginning of the season telling you eagles are probably gonna win the super bowl and then we gonna have a big year.

[Joe Budden]

I don't think the Eagles are winning the Super Bowl. But it's.

[Parks]

He don't either.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not listening to Marvin.

[Parks]

He don't either.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not even listening to them.

[Corey]

Who y'all got in the first round?

[Ish]

A Packers.

[Parks]

And y'all might go home. They could beat y'all. Y'all might go home. Especially if that boy's healthy. Y'all might go home. And y'all can't stop the run any given Sunday. True.

[Joe Budden]

Indeed.

[Ish]

You're right.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, if you download the app today and use promo code JBP, you will get $50 instantly after you play your first $5 lineup. I repeat, download the app today and use promo code JBP and you get $50 instantly after you play your first $5 lineup. So good luck to all participants out there and run your game. I'm gonna be running mine. Goddammit. I'm driving somewhere. Yeah, you had to see Parks face light up in Costa Rica.

[Corey]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Talking about. Oh, shit, Price Picks works. They faked me out, though.

[Corey]

They faked me out.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, man.

[Corey]

No, it didn't work, I'll tell you.

[Parks]

All right, yo, look, man, we talking about court and sports. I mean, Fox Sports.

[Ish]

Oh, man, let's get to it.

[Corey]

Freaky sports.

[Joe Budden]

This is when the pod officially began. Begins.

[Parks]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

All right, who's introing us?

[Corey]

Mel.

[Joe Budden]

Mel, take it away. Mel, take it away.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Like Cal gone. Give it to us.

[Melissa Ford]

I actually did a summarization of the entire lawsuit. Oh, yeah?

[Parks]

Okay.

[Melissa Ford]

Just because I, you know, wanted to.

[Joe Budden]

Just because you heard.

[Melissa Ford]

Well, you know.

[Joe Budden]

Hurry.

[Melissa Ford]

Exactly. So a. A hairdresser over at Fox Sports has launched a lawsuit naming Skip Bayless as a defendant in the lawsuit, claiming that he. How would I put this?

[Parks]

Sexual.

[Melissa Ford]

Sexually harassed her.

[Ish]

Sexually harassed her.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, sexually harassed her. Basically said, propositioned her. I'll pay you $1.5 million if you'll sleep with me. She also alleges that the culture scoffed.

[Joe Budden]

At that big male.

[Melissa Ford]

She also alleges that the culture really just kind of like was. It was a horrible place for women to work. And that's basically it. But Joy Taylor is catching the brunt of the conversation. This shit is wild.

[Ish]

So she's a defendant too.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, Joy Taylor is also a defendant. This is a big lawsuit.

[Ish]

So it's a class action suit.

[Melissa Ford]

She's trying to turn it into a class action.

[Ish]

It's three things. Right? It's a class action suit. Right. And that's for labor. Cause she's saying that all the part time workers, all the casual workers, the hairdresser, all the people who get paid hourly are getting screwed by the network for stuff like this. Then she's suing the head of.

[Joe Budden]

Pull your mic down, Mark.

[Ish]

She's suing the head of programming or the executive VP of programming, Charlie Dixon, and naming Joy Taylor, who's a major host on FS1, and naming skip Bayless. So they're getting sued personally, the company's getting sued. And as you said, this class action suit, which is going to be crazy and actually has implications for everybody in the business who works as a makeup artist, as a hairstylist, as everybody else. So that's really important. But it's all said, like you said, there's a culture of. They use the word patriarchy in the document of patriarchy. Of sexism, of sexual harassment, of all kinds of stuff. What I thought was interesting. Well, two things. One was how well documented it was. A lot of times these actings be just random allegations. It's like she had notes of everything.

[Parks]

She said she had a journal.

[Joe Budden]

A journal.

[Ish]

I mean it was clear.

[Corey]

Right.

[Joe Budden]

I just jump in to tell the.

[Corey]

Audience the essays journal is crazy.

[Joe Budden]

It's all the hairstylists and the muas know the tea everything for sure. It is their job and gig to know the tee. And that's across the board. So.

[Ish]

And they microphone the makeup room at Fox Sports. So they literally they're recording at all times. That's why Skip. And they say in the lawsuit Skip was like the room is bugged. So he would text her or allegedly. Or try to talk to her outside of the makeup room. Because that's where all the cameras are. Exactly.

[Melissa Ford]

So there's been a couple of responses. So Fox Sports response. Fox Sports has acknowledged that the seriousness of the allegations but has refrained from further comment due to pending litigation. Skip Bayless's response.

[Joe Budden]

So they said nothing.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah. As the latest reports, Skip Bayless and his representatives have not publicly commented on the suit. Shannon Sharp was.

[Joe Budden]

Skip is that. Skip is at Wayne's house. Skip is at Lil Wayne's house. Right.

[Melissa Ford]

Shannon Sharpe wants to make it absolutely clear that he has absolutely nothing to do with this. Don't bring his name into shit. I wasn't there. Just don't.

[Ish]

Right.

[Joe Budden]

That's facts. I'll take a small order. Cappuccino. That's facts. But that's facts.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah. And as far as I know, Joy Taylor has yet to say anything but.

[Joe Budden]

Joy went to work.

[Ish]

Joy went to work.

[Joe Budden]

Joy went to work. Covered up.

[Parks]

Covered him up.

[Ish]

And Emmanuel Acho deleted some stuff because he.

[Joe Budden]

Now that's my man right there. Hold up. You know the Internet going to keep the files.

[Melissa Ford]

Yes, they did.

[Joe Budden]

The Internet kept the fouls. Hold up.

[Corey]

Now there's a lot of horny clips that went out this morning.

[Joe Budden]

Shout out my co host Joy Taylor, a woman.

[Parks]

A black woman. Daily show sports. Do you all realize how hard it is to get into the position that she is in?

[Ish]

She put it on that sports.

[Parks]

And we don't even care what women have to say in sports. But Joy is not only.

[Joe Budden]

He put the sauce on on television.

[Parks]

As a woman, as a black woman.

[Joe Budden]

Talk to him.

[Parks]

She's an opinionist.

[Joe Budden]

So not just asking them what they.

[Parks]

Think, but providing her own unique and distinct insight. It's hard to do. Enjoy.

[Joe Budden]

All right, Shut your ass up.

[Melissa Ford]

Two things can be true at the same time.

[Ish]

Yeah, he went wrong.

[Melissa Ford]

He's absolutely. He's really not wrong.

[Ish]

You know where that's coming from.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, but he was.

[Melissa Ford]

But you feel like he was incentivized to say that because.

[Ish]

Come on. You think he's wrong, though? He just. He's not wrong. But he just left the crib. He did it right outside the crib. You know, she put it on him.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, that's what the finesse it. He's right outside of her crib in his car, in a T shirt, smelling his finger. Every time that he said something there.

[Parks]

He got the blanket across his lap.

[Joe Budden]

She sit on the couch with some wine, too. Come on.

[Ish]

Some kinky.

[Joe Budden]

And the wine. Listen, wine have the same effect to be having on me. Like, you know, Mel, get some wine.

[Parks]

Wine.

[Melissa Ford]

That's hate.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my Lord. Ahead.

[Melissa Ford]

Let me just read the. The part of this that is the most, I think, detrimental to Joy's reputation currently. Just because the court of public opinion is going to do what it does, that one sentence, and this is nuts. A few months after meeting Mr. Acho at the lunch, Ms. Faraji, who is the plaintiff. Plaintiff.

[Ish]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay. Notice him in the hallway at work. Ms. Faraji later asked Ms. Taylor if Mr. Acho also worked at Fox. Ms. Taylor confirmed and explained that she wanted Ms. Acho to eventually recommend her on the show. Speak for yourself. Ms. Faraji became alarmed and warned Ms. Taylor that she should probably not sleep with Mr. Dixon and Mr. Acho at the same time. As Mr. Dixon is a very powerful man that may become very angry. Ms. Taylor told her not to worry about it. She explained that she was also now powerful and once Mr. Dixon was no longer useful to her, she would follow through on her plan to tell the company that he had forced himself on her. She would not allow herself to be forced out by Mr. Dixon like other women. Talent.

[Ish]

That's disgusting.

[Parks]

That's the only thing I want to.

[Joe Budden]

Preface all of this with. We don't know that any of this is true.

[Parks]

True.

[Joe Budden]

I think that that's important to note. But I got a job to do. I'm assuming it's. No, no.

[Parks]

You assuming it's true.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, I'm not. I'm not assuming it's true because I don't believe that Skip Bayless offered 1.5 million to get some pussy. And if he did, I don't think.

[Parks]

You have a point, File.

[Ish]

I believe he might have. Just think he was talking shit. I think he might have said it.

[Corey]

Nah.

[Joe Budden]

No, like, as a joke.

[Ish]

Yeah, Just talking shit.

[Corey]

No, no, no.

[Ish]

From that lawsuit, it seemed like he was pressed to get her attention.

[Melissa Ford]

He's the. No, he didn't make the proposition.

[Parks]

He didn't offer 0.5.

[Joe Budden]

I don't believe that he offered that to get some.

[Ish]

Skip is not.

[Melissa Ford]

But you guys believe that he offered money compensation to get.

[Parks]

I don't know that that's possible.

[Joe Budden]

But.

[Corey]

No.

[Melissa Ford]

Plausible.

[Joe Budden]

I think it's more than nowhere near that number.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay, so.

[Parks]

And if she put that number in her lawsuit. I don't believe that. So now I must.

[Melissa Ford]

Are you doing that based on the number or because of the picture you saw?

[Parks]

I'm basing it on the number.

[Joe Budden]

The number.

[Parks]

Why is it so hard to believe.

[Corey]

That he could just say some 1.5 million?

[Ish]

I mean, I don't think it's make sense. I'm just saying, like, he could have said it and just been talking shit.

[Parks]

But let me ask you. I agree. Why do. And you, my man, why do y'all immediately give all the time credence to that? Like the same way you saying. Why do you believe that? Why is it not viable that we don't believe it?

[Ish]

What I'm saying is I don't know one way or the other. I don't assume it's not true. And because I've been in this business long enough to see what men say, particularly men like Skip. And I don't know Skip personally, but I.

[Joe Budden]

Then what does men like Skip.

[Parks]

Men like Skip mean?

[Ish]

Older, aging men who use their. Who abuse their power, who are insecure and who are. And who are constantly battling for stuff. I'm basing that on. I'm not talking about women right now.

[Corey]

You don't really give me insecure, by the way.

[Parks]

He doesn't.

[Ish]

Oh, you'd be surprised. I'm only talking about what his peers and colleagues have said at FS1 to me. So again, I don't know him, so I could be wrong.

[Parks]

Gotcha.

[Ish]

But based on his personality, he fits a type that I've seen and having worked at Fox, of powerful hosts, powerful producers, powerful people. And they do shit like that. And if you don't want to give them none, they go harder. They text you, they offer you gifts, and they just keep raising the stakes because it's their ego to chase you. I don't think Skip Bayless is notoriously cheap.

[Joe Budden]

Right.

[Ish]

Like Stephen A. Said the other night, he don't think he'd give him $50, $15. Right. 15. I'm not saying he would have done it, but it doesn't surprise me that people floss money. Just say it facetiously or to see what you gonna do. Just to see what you gonna do. Like, yo, if I gave you 1.5, would you give me some. Like, that's not a crazy thing to say to somebody just to see what they think when you talk it. That's all I'm saying. I'm just saying. He talking shit. Yeah, yeah, but I don't believe it or not believe it. I'm saying I don't know. But I wouldn't dismiss her. I would. This woman's stuff was so well documented. All the other stuff, it's like people so easily believe this stuff against Joy, but find this part to be so hard to believe. I'm saying all of it is equally questionable.

[Joe Budden]

I don't necessarily believe everything about Joy.

[Parks]

Two totally different things. The things that. That they are accusing Joy of. I've never met Joy in my life, and I have friends that are super duper close to her, okay? So I want to, you know, be respectful. But if we gonna just call a spade a spade. It's a lot of women that sleep their way to the top.

[Ish]

They do.

[Parks]

So that's not something that would be.

[Ish]

No, I'm talking about that statement. The statement of. I would.

[Parks]

I would.

[Ish]

I would say he forced himself on me.

[Parks]

I didn't. Oh, I ain't taking.

[Ish]

That's the part I'm talking about. That's the part I'm talking about.

[Parks]

But, but hold up.

[Joe Budden]

Uh, Are you of the belief that there are women out there that are.

[Parks]

Of that thinking or to play the game like that?

[Ish]

Of course.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Ish]

Again, I'm not just checking.

[Parks]

And that number's growing.

[Joe Budden]

I just gotta check the.

[Parks]

Because that's part of sleeping your way to the top. Because now if you are in a position of power, and I'm sure. I'm 1000% sure. Their bylaws we talking about condo bylaws. These niggas, bylaws say if you are in a position of power, you shouldn't be having any romantic relationships with just a Gordon's. Correct. So the second that you had any type. If you tongue kiss me, nigga, you.

[Joe Budden]

Want a hook, I got you.

[Ish]

I got you. But that's different than saying he forced himself on.

[Parks]

I know, but now I always have that in my back pocket as my trump card or my big joker to lay it out anytime anything happens. Cause the lady also said that, yo, she said, now I'm powerful, so that's my power. That's my Mike Tyson punch.

[Ish]

My issue is how we think about this conversation. Right? This is the part where y'all gonna say, this is what you was expecting, but you caping. Who have I caped for?

[Melissa Ford]

He hasn't even opened up his fucking mouth yet.

[Ish]

I haven't caked for anybody yet.

[Corey]

Go ahead.

[Ish]

I'm not caping. I'm saying. I'm saying that there's a whole system in place that denies women access to these jobs. It's men who put women by denying them jobs and saying, the only way you're gonna get a job is if you have sex with me. That's a system. And so Joy did what a lot of people do in the same way Stephen from Django did it. Right. It's a sexist system. But it sounds like if the allegations are true, she has replicated sexism. She has become the very person that we're trying to stop. So I'm not caping for Joy, to be clear. I'm saying she's wrong. If this is true, she's 1000% wrong and she should be punished the same way everybody else is. So I'm not taking that away from her. But I'm just saying I think we should focus more on the system that makes it so that the only way women can be powerful is if she has a trump card like that, as opposed to saying, I'm qualified for this job, I deserve this job, I should get this job. That's all I'm saying.

[Joe Budden]

Even if you write, nigga, I don't fell asleep during this.

[Ish]

Whatever, man.

[Joe Budden]

I ain't gonna hold you. I start snoring at that.

[Ish]

Well, just stay in your. Just stay in your seat and dressed.

[Parks]

I agree with everything you said, but I just think the world is the world. I think people play their cards how they get dealt and that's it.

[Ish]

But women get dealt fucked up cards is all I'm saying.

[Parks]

I'm not disagreeing. They play them and they playing them.

[Ish]

And it's their choice. She made a choice.

[Joe Budden]

Hall of Famer.

[Corey]

Yeah. Dolphin legend.

[Joe Budden]

I ain't gonna keep. I mean, yes, women get dealt fucked up cards. I don't know if Joy falls into that boat.

[Parks]

Even if she does, she is moving around.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know know.

[Parks]

Look, even if she does, Joy Taylor is being talked about right now. She earned that.

[Joe Budden]

However.

[Parks]

She earned it, right? We've all done some shady, questionable to get to a level of advancement. We all have done that.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Parks]

And that's just a part of the game. Now, if you are saying. I would. I would. I would take this.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. I ain't. I've been on the other side of the stick during my. My advancement.

[Ish]

No, but not necessarily anything crazy.

[Parks]

I don't. Yeah. Have done some funny. I'm just saying that. That if you are going to accuse somebody of some heinous. That's up. That was voluntary. That's up.

[Joe Budden]

I agree.

[Parks]

If that is the case.

[Ish]

If that's the case. That's the worst. That's the worst.

[Melissa Ford]

Because. Because on the flip side, if she's making it up, the hairdresser is making up. Making it up. That Joy never actually. Actually said those things, then that is super fucked up just to advance her cause.

[Parks]

I would agree.

[Melissa Ford]

So we don't know what happened, but this is a really fucked up position for Joy to be in because of the fact that nobody knows. There's no. There's no video. There's no video. And there's. As far as we all know, there's no recording of that particular thing being said. And that is.

[Parks]

I think Joy's the victim in this.

[Melissa Ford]

And also. I think.

[Ish]

The victim.

[Parks]

Yes, a little bit.

[Corey]

She getting dragged into some.

[Parks]

My nigga, I ain't did nothing to nobody in Mommy.

[Ish]

She's the victim if she didn't do it.

[Parks]

No, she's the victim, period.

[Ish]

Wait, if the suit is true, she's still the victim.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Corey]

Yes.

[Parks]

What do you. What do you mean?

[Corey]

Her suit is her suit. The hairdresser suit is her suit.

[Parks]

Why are you bringing other people in? Joy ain't suing a motherfucking person.

[Ish]

Joy is being sued for having done things to.

[Parks]

What does she do? I can fuck who I want to fuck. I ain't do nothing. If I fucked my way to the top, that's my motherfucking business. Keep that shit over there.

[Melissa Ford]

This was the business.

[Parks]

I didn't have nothing with nobody.

[Ish]

When does my body, my choice, come into play for you? When does it come into play? You can always. You can. I don't. I don't have a problem with pushy like I.

[Corey]

Something in the oven. I never. I never had flips cooking before.

[Joe Budden]

No, no. This is first time cooking.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Philadelphia cheese steak, little appetizer, chicken roll, spring rolls up in this cheese steak. I want you to answer him.

[Ish]

Yeah, I. I don't have a problem with who she fucks. If she wants to fuck everybody in that company, she can.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Ish]

I don't have a problem with that. That's not my I have no issue with that. The issue I took was the issue we were talking about with the quote, if she's not only her way to the top, as they say, but also creating a situation where once it stops working, she is now going to implicate the people she had sex with for, for, for basically sexual assault.

[Parks]

That's not what she said though. She said if they try to get her out of this, if he got mad, but he forced himself on me. No, it's not. Mark said once it stops working. Yeah, Mark said once it stops working, then she would go file charges. That's not what she said. She said that if she started fucking the other dude and homeboy got mad and tried to use it against her, she got a trump card. Like, so if I'm fucking blah, blah, blah, and you try to fire me for that, I got something in the touch.

[Melissa Ford]

I understand, but in essence, essence, doesn't that necessarily mean that the plan has stopped working?

[Parks]

No, it means that you got mad that I'm not you no more and I'm this person and now you're gonna try to blackmail me. You can't blackmail me because I got the trump card.

[Ish]

But the trump card is to lie and say he forced himself on you. Yeah, I, I, that's, that's the only issue. No, I know, but I'm saying to flips question, that's my issue with it. My issue is not who women, women can over. That's why I said the system to me is the issue. A system where you have to fuck your way to the top is the problem. But I'm not blaming an individual woman for having sex on the way to the top.

[Parks]

So tell me why she not the victim?

[Melissa Ford]

No, go ahead, you can answer that.

[Ish]

Because of this. My critique of her is not the sex part again. It's just that one line that we said is the most damning thing. Right? If she said that thing and was intending to do that thing, to say that the person that she voluntarily had sex with forced himself on her, I'm saying that would be, that would make her not a victim. That's the only thing I'm saying.

[Parks]

If she's doing that in retaliation to you doing something to him, so you.

[Joe Budden]

Get mad that I'm somebody else, and.

[Parks]

Now you're trying to cost me my job. I'm retaliating to you.

[Ish]

Yeah, I don't believe dirt with dirt.

[Parks]

Or mud with mud.

[Ish]

And I'm saying they both be fucked up.

[Joe Budden]

There's no word where I'm gonna defend that. But I understand.

[Parks]

Yeah, I'm not trying to defend it either, but it's just like she's backed in the court. That's all I got. Because at the end of the day, you. I couldn't advance without fucking you.

[Ish]

I just want to say for the record, on the Joe Button podcast, Mark is the one criticizing a woman for fake allegations. Y'all are one defending her, saying her back is against the wall. So when the people come out with the capes, right now.

[Parks]

We don't even know if the girl ever said it.

[Ish]

No, this is all conditional. Everything is conditional. And if it's true, I'm saying if this is true, that's fucking up.

[Parks]

But if she did say it, I ain't sue a person. My podcast was supposed to start this week. Her podcast season two, was supposed to start this week.

[Joe Budden]

I've been pressing refresh since Monday. I've been looking for the new episode of Joy Taylor's podcast for a week.

[Parks]

Like, dog, now I gotta tuck my. Because some shit I didn't even bring to the public.

[Melissa Ford]

Her COD with Taylor Brooks.

[Joe Budden]

That's the one I've been looking for.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, yeah. No, from what I understand, Taylor has stepped away from the podcast due to increased responsibilities in her other professional endeavors.

[Ish]

Smart.

[Parks]

That's nothing, right?

[Joe Budden]

And I do believe that. And I do believe that. Yeah, she got her Amazon show, Blade Griffin, they bringing on. They spending money. Taylor Rooks is a rising star. So I'm not mad at her wanting to get far the away from. From any of this.

[Melissa Ford]

And here's the other thing about Taylor Rooks, in comparison to Joy everybody, it seemed to open up the conversation about how statistically, how many women actually take advantage of, you know, the abuse and power and being a part of the system and sleeping the way their way to the top. This is now being made to. Women are being made to seem like this is a regular occurrence. And this is what a lot of women do. And I don't agree with that.

[Ish]

I don't think a lot of women do it.

[Melissa Ford]

I think some women do it.

[Ish]

I think the system makes success.

[Melissa Ford]

But I think that. I think there's such a. I think there's such a. I think there's such a risk involved with doing it because you can fuck a motherfucker and then he's a. You know what? I'm not gonna give a shit.

[Ish]

I'll give you example. At the beginning of time, a woman would throw her weight around and the weight would be the vagina. If a man is not really giving into her intellect or what she could bring to the table. Women throw pussy around in these offices. I disagree. I disagree. I'll give you a perfect example. Right? When I worked at FOX News, I worked on something. Can I say this?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

I can say this. I worked on the O'Reilly factory with Bill O'Reilly. Right. Trainer. I was on the visiting team. I was the one to argue with it. And I would come on and see these different, very articulate, attractive, conventionally attractive blonde, white women debating him. And they all had regular spots. And as the years went on, almost all of them that I knew sued him for sexual harassment and said that the only way they could get that job was either to have sex with Bill. I'm sorry, they sued Fox, not Bill. Some sued Bill. Some sued Fox, and they said it was either to have sex with Roger Ailes to have Sex with Bill O'Reilly. All these people, were they qualified? Yes. Were they talented? Yes. But there were a lot of people who also were qualified and talented. So out of 100, maybe the four made it to the top. So 96 women, to Mel's point, don't do it. But the four that do it are four that won. And that's part of the system. So most women don't sleep their way to the top. I didn't say my sister. I'm sorry.

[Joe Budden]

But then your math is off. Cause wouldn't you only need to look at the women that made it to the top.

[Ish]

Exactly.

[Joe Budden]

And not the entire field to determine what. To determine how many of them slept their way to the top versus how many of them, the rest of the.

[Parks]

Field don't get to the top because.

[Melissa Ford]

They don't get to the top. Top.

[Ish]

Right. But you just. I don't presume that everybody. I don't presume that everybody at the top has slept their way. I'm saying just in that particular percentages.

[Joe Budden]

It wouldn't be 96 didn't. It would be how many women are at the top. And now how many of those.

[Ish]

I'm sorry, I wasn't clear when the other. I'm saying that there were lots of women who appeared on the show. I was. The four are the ones who got a regular spot. They all appeared. They all were TV people. So they're all in the business. But I'm saying to get to the best jobs and at the top of the. Those are the ones, I think, that are often getting out to. Do you think that the women that do get to the top, they go in there with the intent of. I Know what he wants. I know what I have to give him to get here. I'll tell you this. I don't know. I can tell you just having, in my own personal experience having dated women in the business, when they come home, I know the stories they tell me about what.

[Joe Budden]

What they endure.

[Ish]

What they endure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I heard that as well. Okay. And it's actually rare that I don't hear some inappropriate shit.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, I know y'all having a really intelligent conversation right now. Ish. Do you wanna say something before I say something totally ignorant? Cause I'm gonna say something real ignorant.

[Parks]

Go ahead now. You got it.

[Joe Budden]

I don't wanna just shit on the women that are fucking they way to the top because a good part of me says you should. You gotta probably be pretty good at fucking if you fuck your way to the top.

[Ish]

You don't.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know that.

[Ish]

Wait, hold on. I'm gonna tell you why you don't.

[Parks]

That's not true.

[Ish]

Because a lot of the men who are doing the fucking are like a million years old. And when you get a certain age.

[Joe Budden]

So it's good to them.

[Ish]

What I'm saying is you ain't gotta be good at fucking, you just gotta be young. Like a lot of times it's their ego, you're fucking their age. You know what I mean? When you turn 60, you get a 25 year old girl, she ain't gotta be that good at fucking for it to be a thing for you. That's what I said.

[Joe Budden]

They say don't judge it, go ahead, you're wrong.

[Parks]

A, that is worth. I'mma don't throw a number. I'm gonna let you throw the number up. A, that's worth 30 million. He's up. If that's his thing, he can 100, 200, 320 something year old pretty women.

[Ish]

Yeah, but it's power.

[Parks]

Don't move the goal post. If you have that much money, you could a bunch of young women. Yeah, and only a few of those young women you selected to move to the top. That means those women presented something that the other 98 did not.

[Ish]

You said among that pool. I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying.

[Parks]

So the ones to Joe's point, and this is some ignorant, I'm just going say a little bit better or they made him feel better than the other ones. That was him, maybe.

[Ish]

You know what, I don't know, you know, they got the tricks. They got the tricks, dog.

[Parks]

We all been single men before We a lot of women before. I can speak to every in this room. I know him. They some quality women. They a bunch of women before. It's a few women that got extra perks. It's a few women that you would get out the bed at 3 o'clock.

[Ish]

They do the tricks.

[Melissa Ford]

You don't think that you speak from a privileged position?

[Parks]

No, I think I speak from a male position.

[Melissa Ford]

No, you speak from a privileged position. I don't have to be. I have eyes. You speak from a privileged position. Being attracted. You could be broke. And a is going to you when. When you're looking. When you look like Roger Ailes. You know what I'm saying? It's the power and the money that you use to abuse. Use in order to get the pretty young girls to fuck you. That's basically it. That's the only reason why she would.

[Parks]

Melissa Ford, who you think get more pussy? Me or Rick Ross?

[Melissa Ford]

I actually cannot answer that question confidently.

[Parks]

I bet you can't.

[Melissa Ford]

I mean, currently you are in affianced, so probably him.

[Parks]

Which speaks to my point. Who you think had more pussy in their life? Me or Trick daddy?

[Ish]

Any nigga with some. Wow.

[Parks]

Like what? So what's your point?

[Melissa Ford]

The look of this. Truly, I truly, truly do not. I cannot make that.

[Ish]

No, you're right about that. You're right.

[Parks]

No disrespect to Rick Ross, but Melissa, it's not a privilege to be attractive. When you start talking about these particular settings, talk about the money and the power that don't have nothing to do and looks exactly. That don't have nothing to do with when a woman is moving around for a man. I got 40, 50, 60, $70 million. How you look might just be a cherry on a Sunday.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay. This particular case, Charlie Dixon, I don't believe that he's worth 20, 30, $40 million.

[Joe Budden]

Gatekeeper.

[Ish]

He's a gatekeeper. He has power.

[Joe Budden]

Gatekeeper.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

He. He might. He might be the conduit to you making 10, 20 million, $30 million.

[Ish]

And he is. Which is why Joy was also wrong. And not just a victim here. Because when he allegedly touched the makeup artist inappropriately, she reported it. Reported. She told it to Joy. And Joy said. Said let it go. She said, don't rock the boat. Don't rock the boat. Again, it's not wrong. Listen to me. If we had a makeup artist here and that person.

[Joe Budden]

Which clearly we don't.

[Ish]

Clearly we don't.

[Joe Budden]

It's very clear. This couldn't be more obvious. We do not.

[Ish]

If I did something inappropriate to that makeup artist, and then they go to you or Joe or Mel or somebody and say, yo, Mark. And she said, yo, don't say shit. This will fuck up your job. Blah, blah, blah, blah. That's a power dynamic. That's wrong. It's not just an opinion. That's wrong.

[Parks]

That's not true. I don't want to sound like a creep, yo. It's wrong for somebody to do that to you.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Parks]

Now, if you come to me as a friend and say, yo, Parks, did XYZ to me, I'm going to quit as your friend. I might say, yo, dawg, you have children. Yo, dog, you have a mortgage. Yo, dog, you just got engaged. You have all of these things. Don't make an emotional, irrational decision without thinking it through.

[Ish]

But that's apples and oranges. Or maybe no, it is because we're peers. If a makeup artist does it, the host has the ability to decide whether the makeup artist works or not. It's a power dynamic. That's why it's not apples to apples. You see what I'm saying?

[Parks]

That's a great point.

[Ish]

That's all I'm saying. If I said, yo, Parks, I showed you on the dog. Parks keeps touching me. And I go to.

[Corey]

I don't want y'all being.

[Ish]

Keep your hands to yourself. Right? And I go to Joe and say, yo, Joe Parks. And he says, yo, leave that alone. Right? That's a power dynamic.

[Corey]

I don't do this stuff.

[Ish]

By the way, no park says, you have to touch.

[Parks]

I'm not disagreeing with you, but I'm saying that we not going to sit here and just act phony. Like, won't be like, yo, turn the other way for. She could be telling her, yo, if you make an issue here, this could fuck up your job and future jobs because of who he is. I'm trying to look out for you. Like, yo, I get it.

[Ish]

Yeah, but your boss can't do that.

[Parks]

I said it better than me. That's where I was going. I said it better than me.

[Ish]

I get it. And it could have been some friendship that she said it, but this literally.

[Melissa Ford]

Is a description as to the culture that she's talking about. And the culture being extremely toxic and chauvinistic and imbalanced. That's literally the lawsuit, right?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, but if there's no toxic cultures, then there will be no more docs.

[Corey]

That's a very good point. Twitter would be boring.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, like, I want the Fox Sports doc. I was grateful for the Luigi Mangione. DOC Already got a doc. Yeah, they got some shit.

[Corey]

Hulu, right?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, you know it.

[Ish]

You know, it should be Come out a week later.

[Joe Budden]

Impact.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah. Okay, but wait, hold on one second here. How did Jameel catch a stray? Because I know you were defending her on Twitter.

[Ish]

Oh, yeah, because.

[Joe Budden]

Because AB Said, ain't nobody want to fuck Jamel out of nowhere.

[Melissa Ford]

What's wrong with him?

[Ish]

That's the thing.

[Melissa Ford]

Why?

[Ish]

That shit ain't have to happen. Man, that shit corny, man. I don't like this.

[Melissa Ford]

Do they have issues with each other?

[Ish]

He doesn't like Jamel. Apparently. He told me later because he hit me afterward after I responded. Cause I said to him, I said, yo, why are you coming at a sister like that? That shit corny, right? And he was like. But it's okay when she comes at me. But it's like she was criticizing you for your behavior on the court.

[Joe Budden]

Court.

[Ish]

On the field. Excuse me. She was criticizing your antics. That's different than just saying, oh, out of nowhere. Nobody wants to Jamel. Like, that's. That's not cool. I don't like that at all.

[Joe Budden]

You know, it's not.

[Ish]

I hate y'all. Somebody cut. I'm shooting right back. That's his way of shooting back. When she come at him, I mean.

[Melissa Ford]

She did shoot back, but why the. Should she have to. She is a. She's an accomplished, intelligent, dignified, married woman. Leave her the fuck out of this.

[Ish]

She was minding her own business. Just like Trick Daddy was a few minutes ago. If she.

[Joe Budden]

I love Jamel Hill, but shout out to Jamel. But if a nigga with CTE wanna crack a joke, then I might laugh.

[Ish]

Take it to the house, nigga.

[Joe Budden]

I might laugh like, we know that Antonio Brown is a couple screwdrivers short of a toolbox. And you just gotta. I was laughing at you. Me and my girl had a blast laughing at you. Cause you'll take up the fight. You'll talk to the CTE dude like, yo, my brother.

[Corey]

Trying to reason with him.

[Joe Budden]

You're talking about. You're talking to our sister, Antonio Brown.

[Ish]

I know, I know, I know. I don't do it because I think Antonio Brown gonna act different. It's more so that the people watching the conversation get something from it. Like, yo, we ain't gotta do this shit. We ain't gotta do Drop off.

[Parks]

Mark's such a great, great guy.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Shout out to Jamel Hill. Listen again, more ignorant takes from Joe. I wish that fucking your way to the top for women were More popular today than putting SA on men, because that's been the game for the last. For the last. I want to say post pandemic, since pandemic, it seemed like some women can just throw a lie on you and it sticks. It sticks. Your career's ruined. I get my nut of this money and. And we go, I got a little pushback. Give it to me.

[Parks]

And you know, I usually ride on this. That's kind of. They get back the pendulum swinging the other way now. Yeah. Like, y'all have had all of this power for all of these decades, and now we getting a little bit of the power back.

[Joe Budden]

I wish there was another way.

[Melissa Ford]

It really bothers me.

[Joe Budden]

I wish there was another way for it.

[Ish]

Why it bothers you, man?

[Melissa Ford]

It bothers me because the real losers in this situation are actually victims of sexual assault. These are the only. These are the only losers in this particular situation because the very, very few cases where a woman does what Joy is alleged to do or had been planning to do or carried out, these are the ones that make the big fucking headlines. And everyone's like, see, look, the pendulum swing too far in the other direction. Me too was fucking bullshit. This is what bitches do. And it's like, no, it's not okay. There is a few. There's a few fucked up apples in the bunch of women that were actually victims. And this does nothing to help their cause. And that's what really frustrates me with this particular part of this.

[Joe Budden]

I agree with everything you're saying. I'm just saying that the few is bigger than what we say.

[Melissa Ford]

We'll never, ever, ever have, like, a full grasp of what the statistics actually are. We'll just never know.

[Parks]

It's not possible. Yeah, because so many women that have been assaulted or God.

[Joe Budden]

God knew not to give me. No, let me add a shit.

[Corey]

Fucking went right to the top.

[Parks]

Oh, my God. You might have had. Yo, you might have had. Had some trash.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my Lord.

[Corey]

Shit.

[Joe Budden]

You never know.

[Parks]

You never know.

[Ish]

You know what I'm saying?

[Melissa Ford]

Like, that's the Might have been trash.

[Parks]

Every girl think they shit is fire.

[Joe Budden]

Well, then you got to learn to do something with the trash, right?

[Parks]

Go look at. Go, go look and skip. New followers. Put some psal in that thing.

[Joe Budden]

You lying.

[Parks]

You go, look. They was like, how much I'm giving out 1.5.

[Ish]

That bitch is like, so all y'all would give it up for 1.5.

[Melissa Ford]

They were giving up for a apple pie.

[Joe Budden]

See, see, we saw you after the fake lotto game you would give it up for one. Enough of you. All y'all niggas would.

[Ish]

Oh, no, I would.

[Joe Budden]

We've seen you.

[Ish]

I absolutely would.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, look.

[Ish]

Okay, if Skip catch me on the right day right now, like.

[Joe Budden]

Nah, the funny shit they said.

[Ish]

They said Flip was like.

[Joe Budden]

Flip said? I mean, not Flip. Skip said, ain't you Muslim?

[Ish]

Yo, that was wild.

[Parks]

That's crazy.

[Joe Budden]

And that's my topic that I've been. That I've been suppressing. But I'm in a future episode. I'm coming with the Muslim freaks. The one that. I can't say it. Yeah, but the ones that we're saying.

[Ish]

Don'T say it, bro.

[Joe Budden]

Just let it go.

[Parks]

I followed something.

[Joe Budden]

I've had a few of those. Some of the Muslim freaks, right? Yeah.

[Ish]

Yeah. I grew up in Muslim community. I grew up. I spent much of my life in the Muslim community. And yeah, there's some. You know what?

[Joe Budden]

It's Muslim freak. That's the new church freaks.

[Ish]

The old church. Different church.

[Parks]

Different church.

[Ish]

Oh, my.

[Joe Budden]

What? Skip Wife name too. Some old like Gretchen.

[Parks]

Ernestine.

[Joe Budden]

Ernestine.

[Corey]

Winifred.

[Melissa Ford]

Phyllis.

[Joe Budden]

Phyllis. Oh, my Lord. Rest in peace, Aunt Phyllis. I lost my aunt a couple days ago. I love you. She's trans positioned in a much better place now. So shout out to Phyllis. Shout out to my family.

[Corey]

For sure.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

If you're the wife, name is Gretchen. Or some trash box. Hey, hey, Skip.

[Ish]

If your name is Ernstein, you got a trash box.

[Parks]

Hold on.

[Joe Budden]

Now, you know you. Now you go see the houses. That was built in 1931. Real two by four shell real two by fours right there.

[Parks]

They don't make no house.

[Joe Budden]

Bedrooms don't even be this size.

[Parks]

Your grandmother got some good mouth skin.

[Ish]

What?

[Parks]

Somebody said that to their grandkids.

[Joe Budden]

That's crazy. I want to laugh. I want to take a moment to laugh. And this is a dude that I'll never bring up on this broadcast. But today I'll make an exception. Did y'all hear with Jason Whitlock? Yes.

[Parks]

Yo.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Ish]

I hate that.

[Joe Budden]

Now I've seen everything as it relates to this because I've been searching Joy Taylor since last. Whenever this news broke. But.

[Ish]

Wait, hold up.

[Parks]

You said that publicly.

[Joe Budden]

Let me play.

[Parks]

I said that publicly. I know what I'm capable of.

[Joe Budden]

That.

[Parks]

That big rack of hers that she showed off.

[Corey]

It's just.

[Joe Budden]

And that peanut butter skin with that big rack.

[Ish]

Keep your distance.

[Joe Budden]

I'm playing it again.

[Parks]

What was this? So, Matt, what's he kicking with?

[Joe Budden]

Hold up. Let me play it again. I know What I'm capable of. And that big rack of hers. She showed up constantly.

[Parks]

Peanut butter skin.

[Joe Budden]

Skin.

[Corey]

It's just.

[Parks]

And that peanut butter skin with that.

[Joe Budden]

Big rack, with that big.

[Ish]

Keep your distance.

[Joe Budden]

So my. My question is. Hey, hey, Jason. Hey, OG hey, hey, hey, Unc. Like, what you capable of?

[Parks]

I want to ask it that to Mel.

[Melissa Ford]

What?

[Parks]

You see how confident he is.

[Melissa Ford]

Jason Whitlock, huh? Yeah.

[Parks]

Why you think that come from just a foreign blade place?

[Melissa Ford]

I think it's the Krueger dunning effect.

[Corey]

The who now?

[Ish]

The what?

[Parks]

Freddy Krueger.

[Joe Budden]

Freddy Krueger.

[Ish]

Freddy Krueger not alive. Freddy KRU who dun the Mifflin what mark? Nope, it's all you.

[Joe Budden]

Yo. Why does Jason Whitlock think that he would have went to. Went to town on Joy Taylor?

[Parks]

Jason Wheatlock got some bread, got some fame, and probably is accustomed to giving it out.

[Ish]

Well, that's what he said about two minutes after that clip. He said, throughout my time in the business, women have come to me a lot and offered me stuff for like, in exchange for a TV position, which.

[Parks]

Speaks to what we saying. You ain't gotta be the beauty spot.

[Joe Budden]

To be getting yo and shout out to y'all, right? There's mad girls out there that offer me some pussy to get a pot. A pot deal. Hey, come up here for a second. Make it. We. We sitting on them.

[Ish]

No, on them.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, I'm about to say get to it, mama. I get to it.

[Ish]

Get to it. I'm going back on vacation.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, man.

[Corey]

But if you're going to do it to change the bad.

[Joe Budden]

My bad.

[Corey]

I mean, what.

[Melissa Ford]

But it's called for.

[Parks]

She exchanging.

[Joe Budden]

She exchanging goods. Services are. Give it up to come.

[Parks]

P. Girls was a promoter in the club.

[Ish]

What. What we talking about?

[Joe Budden]

Get to this phone in line.

[Ish]

Yeah, talk about it.

[Joe Budden]

Can we talk about some of the dudes the girls used to. That's hate, right? No, cuz I'm not mad at the girl. The promoter, the girl that the photographer inside. It was like, come on.

[Ish]

N. Not seven days. Seven nights. Not when that was out. Seven days. Seven nights.

[Joe Budden]

Seven nights. Oh, my God. What's popping down here?

[Melissa Ford]

All the parties. All the parties.

[Joe Budden]

She ra. She r on herself.

[Melissa Ford]

I am not.

[Ish]

Give me pal.

[Joe Budden]

Mel, what you say?

[Melissa Ford]

You better. You better go biggest on the COVID Like.

[Ish]

Yeah, not you.

[Joe Budden]

Seven days. Seven nights. Them bitches was in Mars 2112 with they pussy hanging out to be on.

[Ish]

The front page of the website. Everybody see you.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, not on page 97.

[Parks]

And.

[Joe Budden]

Every time y'all Bring something up. I feel like it was one of the best times of my life. It was.

[Parks]

You said Mars 27 days, seven nights.

[Joe Budden]

What's poppin.net Johnny Nunes Good times. Listen, my heart goes out to Joy Taylor. I do think it's a shame that she's getting dragged more than Skip.

[Ish]

I agree with that.

[Joe Budden]

She should not be getting dragged more than.

[Ish]

That's the patriarchy. That's the patriarchy. Skip is just getting these jokes like, oh, this nigga paying out a million and a half a pussy. But like, Skip was one of the most powerful people at FS1. If he did what he was alleged to to do. His to me is pay for, yo. Yeah, but you can't pay your employees for pay. You can't you be married for mad long. You go through mad. If could come in easy. Just go ahead and pay. Then get a sex worker. I'm not. They are sex workers. Hold on. Listen. There's no three.

[Joe Budden]

What the are you talking.

[Ish]

Here's the truth. They work for you. You can't. The people that work for you. If I work in tv, I. I can't. There's no moonlight by the moonlight. Your employees. There's really no thrill in somebody that gives it up easy. Like sometimes the chase is good. Nigga.

[Joe Budden]

What he said in the suit.

[Parks]

The Skip says the more you say no, the more I want you.

[Ish]

Yeah. That's the beginning of time. That's predatory. It is wrong. Yes, we know predatory and all that. But listen, niggas pay for sex, bro.

[Joe Budden]

Don't succeed.

[Parks]

Dust yourself off and try and again.

[Ish]

Pay not to have a headache. There's a lot of pay for. But why they gotta work for you? I'm not saying don't pay for. I have no issue with. Because you're not going outside. It's convenient. You right there. It's convenient.

[Corey]

You look good.

[Ish]

You in my face. Listen, I got 1.5 if you shut the up. Give me some. Whatever you want.

[Melissa Ford]

Nobody stop him.

[Ish]

Is that. You think that's. Why should I be stopped? Because it's the truth. It happens. No one is saying it don't happen. We saying it's wrong. Mark. A lot of aggression. Listen, I don't want no smoke, bro. I'm just saying it's not supposed to happen. But that's life, Mark. That's all I'm saying. You acting like it's far.

[Joe Budden]

I was wrong.

[Ish]

Yes, it's wrong. Been happening since Cleopatra days. I don't even know what that means. But we the beginning of the time we making it normal.

[Joe Budden]

I'm saying Marilyn Monroe was the greatest actress.

[Ish]

Exactly.

[Melissa Ford]

She actually was a pretty.

[Ish]

She was a good actor.

[Joe Budden]

But you thought Marilyn Monroe, she was great at.

[Ish]

She said Happy birthday to the President from the wife. She's a great vocal.

[Joe Budden]

There you go. There you go.

[Ish]

Marilyn Monroe saying Happy birthday while the wife was there.

[Parks]

Happy birthday. Timeless, timeless.

[Ish]

Classic. She ain't give a bro.

[Joe Budden]

I got two others. I want to move on anytime I start agreeing with Flip too much.

[Corey]

That's fair.

[Ish]

That's fair. Y ain't going to do. Let's get out of this.

[Joe Budden]

Nah, nah. This shit was so juicy.

[Ish]

You just can't fuck your employee. Just don't fuck where you are. Understand what he's saying? I'm saying as a good rule of thumb to avoid all this shit. This is how Shannon Sharpe is not in any drama right now. He's not named in a suit at all.

[Melissa Ford]

No.

[Ish]

And that's what he said.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, okay.

[Ish]

I don't know nothing about anything else. I'm saying just don't fuck people with workout.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. I heard what Jason Whitlock had to say.

[Ish]

Yeah, Jason Whitlock is.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, I don't listen to Jason Whitlock unless he's talking about people that I do listen to.

[Ish]

Right. Going at Stephen A or some. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jason would like to be saying. Wow. I mean.

[Joe Budden]

And what I will say is this.

[Corey]

We're not getting rid of co workers, by the way. That's never happened.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, that's not gonna happen.

[Ish]

I'm not saying you have to. I'm just saying if you want to be safe, sure. It's a good rule of good advice. But your employees is always a bad.

[Joe Budden]

Does everybody here feel like we should not fucking your co worker?

[Parks]

No.

[Corey]

At my. In my mature age, yes. When I was younger.

[Ish]

No.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Now Mark.

[Ish]

Now.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Ish.

[Parks]

No, Flip.

[Joe Budden]

No.

[Parks]

No, I'm. I'm against them. No. Your co workers.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Parks]

You talking about we both grown.

[Joe Budden]

Ish.

[Ish]

How about your employees, though?

[Parks]

No, I won't. My employees. I've never. None of my tenants. Neighbors, employee neighbors, Co workers.

[Joe Budden]

You can't. Them little Mexican people, they might. They might feel like they don't need to build that house so fast.

[Parks]

They got some leverage.

[Joe Budden]

This. This is what I. This is what I'll say. And I'm not. I'm not wishing nothing on nobody, but when I watch espn, I could see it. Yeah, you are.

[Corey]

Sure.

[Joe Budden]

I've been saying that for like a year.

[Ish]

I don't watch.

[Joe Budden]

Been saying it For. For a long time on his podcast, when I watch like, I could see through the. On screen.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Parks]

It'd be to see it do the.

[Joe Budden]

Show behind the show. So of course, I don't want ESPN to have to go through that. But I'm assuming that many companies had meetings and you know, talks.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

About some of these things.

[Parks]

Reinforcing, reinforce some of them have any type of. If you have any relations, y'all have to disclose that. It has to be a disclosure immediately. Anything y'all kiss, we gotta know about it. Because now the company gotta be. Have some way to be protected.

[Ish]

Right.

[Parks]

Because if that employee come back or somebody come back. Yeah, yeah. Y'all have to sign off so that the company's not held liable with whatever y'all do.

[Ish]

And the problem is they can't sign because most of these executives that do it is married.

[Parks]

Yes, indeed. There you go.

[Joe Budden]

I don't have anything else on the matter. I think I've said all the ignorant shit that I need to say about it.

[Ish]

Do what you got to do.

[Joe Budden]

Shout out to the co workers that are out there for sure. Shout out to the girls that are their way to the top. But doing it the right way. How about the.

[Ish]

The news real quick?

[Joe Budden]

The.

[Ish]

The two people on the news that was each other got. That got fired. Remember them?

[Joe Budden]

They didn't disclose the white lady and the black.

[Ish]

Black guy.

[Melissa Ford]

How did you feel about.

[Ish]

I don't know the story. I don't know the story.

[Corey]

Oh, oh, yes, you do.

[Melissa Ford]

You know the story.

[Ish]

Just tell me the story. I don't know.

[Melissa Ford]

You don't remember America or some co anchors from.

[Ish]

Oh famous. Oh, you talking about TJ and Yes.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, look, that's man.

[Ish]

Yeah, but he get a pass. He get a pass. No, my issue with tj, there's two issues, right? One is a professional issue. It wasn't him. His co host, Amy something. Amy something.

[Joe Budden]

And it wasn't just they had a relationship.

[Ish]

They had a relationship.

[Melissa Ford]

They left their.

[Ish]

But he was accused of also the producers, the intern, all these other people.

[Joe Budden]

Let me ask you this.

[Ish]

That would be my issue. Your co host is fine if everybody's an adult.

[Joe Budden]

Let me take it off cold. If you're a record executive, Zach, can you fuck your artist?

[Ish]

No, I. I don't think you should. Yeah, I think it's always fucked. I think it's always fucked up. I get it happens and I get sometimes it's genuine, but I think it's fucked up.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Ish]

That's my only question.

[Joe Budden]

It wasn't Your question?

[Ish]

Yeah, I just think it's generally, generally fucked up. Cause usually some it's hard to be consensual. It's hard to be consensual when there's a power dynamic. That's the point.

[Parks]

Or, or it's a gray area where you don't know if it is actually consensual because she might be. Or he might be fucking you.

[Corey]

And assuming everything is sexual power dynamic, everyone's okay with everything. It can get sticky and bad for business.

[Ish]

Yeah, I agree. And relationships end. It's just. It's just a bad rule of thumb in general.

[Joe Budden]

Skip dykeman the Junction D.C. atlanta.

[Parks]

Atlanta.

[Joe Budden]

Atlanta, Louisiana. Plenty of places you could buy some for less than 1.55.

[Parks]

You buy a lot of.

[Joe Budden]

For all.

[Parks]

For less than 1 point.

[Joe Budden]

1.5. You probably get all the.

[Parks]

For less than 1.5 thousand. You talking about 1500.

[Joe Budden]

Get it done.

[Ish]

Hey man, go to Dr. Hey, we got some girls. Write the indictment.

[Joe Budden]

They got you.

[Parks]

Go to ny. Got to get on no boat. You talking about you don't got to get on no plane. Come right to New York.

[Joe Budden]

My heart goes out to all parties involved.

[Parks]

Indeed.

[Joe Budden]

Shout out to the hairdressers, spilling that tea when the tea is hot. When the tea get hot, all you got to do is talk to hairdresser.

[Ish]

That's it. That was Pepper the Limp.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, why not? Shout out for blowing the lid off of this organization. It's this ring.

[Ish]

She lost her job.

[Parks]

Don't bring, don't bring Shorty into that. Well, she got smoke with Shorty. That's all I read from that. Yeah, don't bring Shorty into that. You could do all of that with the entity, with the network, with all of that without bringing Joy into to that. No, I got smoke with her.

[Ish]

I disagree.

[Melissa Ford]

And she possibly could have like left her name.

[Parks]

Like she got 25. She got 25 John Doe's on there as well.

[Joe Budden]

But yet the Joy stuff adds to, adds to the credibility of her story.

[Ish]

Right? And it's one of her beefs. Like, I went to the person who I work for and she told me to not to cover it up. To cover it up. Like that's a legitimate like concern.

[Parks]

You can still say that without saying all that other shit too.

[Ish]

I agree.

[Joe Budden]

Agree with.

[Parks]

That's why I think.

[Ish]

I think she's making a case. She's like, look, the only way she. She got this job of acho, allegedly this person, she got this job by this dude basically saying, the only way in this company you can advance is by somebody.

[Parks]

Listen, that's your only example.

[Corey]

And this hate, if you're the hairdresser.

[Parks]

That'S your only example.

[Ish]

Exactly. Maybe that's the only thing she got.

[Parks]

Only example. This is a culture culture here. There's more than just Joy Taylor that was allegedly doing. And you got 25 jobs.

[Ish]

Here's why, though. Here's why. Because you got gossip. It's the difference between gossip and saying. She told me this directly. Like when I was in Fox. I knew a lot of people. Bill O'Reilly was right. But I. Bill didn't tell me that. You know what I mean? So I couldn't do that. But I could look at. But when somebody was telling me something directly, I could put that in my mind.

[Parks]

You wasn't a hairdresser, though.

[Ish]

But that's what I'm saying.

[Parks]

The hairdresser. Get it.

[Ish]

They get all the gossip from everybody. But you messed up. That's it, man. Go ahead.

[Parks]

She took a nigga from. She took a nigga from. Old girl she had a beef over.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, it do seem like it was some personal shit. Acho had a long day, boy. Hey, hey, hey, you. You can't delete it fast enough, buddy.

[Parks]

Yo, now they kept the files.

[Ish]

He had some horny ass videos, man.

[Joe Budden]

See, but my heart always goes out to the person that's home in bed cuddling with the current person that they. And some old shit popping up. And now it just rocked your whole Netflix too.

[Parks]

They pulled out Joy when she was like, yo, let's keep it a buck. The dude that's handsome, the dude that got some money, the dude that got some power, he got a way longer leash to up than the other people. We'll overlook some. The red flags go away when the got money, power, or they really, really good looking.

[Joe Budden]

Somebody tweeted, why y'all surprised about this? Joy like, she not from Miami. Now, that's horrible to say and it's not funny. But, boy, I understand.

[Parks]

Chris Rock said, but I understand Ocean.

[Ish]

Ocean that dine on the corner again.

[Joe Budden]

Miami. Oh, my Lord, man, listen, my heart goes out to all the most fun.

[Corey]

In Cleveland or whatever.

[Parks]

Tariq.

[Corey]

Gotta be careful what you wish for. You gotta be careful what you wish for.

[Joe Budden]

What else? What else? What else is important, unimportant.

[Parks]

We had a little breakthrough.

[Corey]

What happened?

[Parks]

We started doing our kitchen talk as normal. And Mr. My dear guy has been converted.

[Ish]

I wouldn't go that far. I wouldn't go that far. I wouldn't go that far. No. But Corey made an interview. Interesting Point which was that when Joy got into the business, they were. She wasn't a powerful personator. She was a part timer. She was a fill in. And that she got the makeup artist the job on her show and that they neither of them had any power and that they were friends. And so their dynamic and conversation was more as friends than as a boss to employee. I think that's a great point.

[Parks]

That changes the dynamic.

[Ish]

That changes a lot. That changes a whole piece of that even.

[Parks]

And that goes to what I said when. When she tells her these things. I'm talking to you as a friend saying, yo, don't make no ripples, don't make no ways, because this could you up. And shorty goes on to say that every time she went to dinner, when she would pull up in the restaurant, it was Joy and Dixon Dickerson, whatever the guy's name.

[Ish]

Charles Dixon.

[Parks]

So I'm inviting you in here as my home girl. We friends. We got a personal relationship after hours. I'm inviting you as my homegirl. You know, I'm not trying to be money girl that got some money, girl, come on here. Get that caviar and that shrimp. Girl, that be paying for anything. Go get the time of all. Like, you know how this go. Like, we acting like we don't know how that.

[Joe Budden]

We don't know how to, though. Don't say shrimp again. It's trigger.

[Parks]

Well, how's that go? A3.3 Dickinson might have got. Yeah, but so I. I think that.

[Joe Budden]

That.

[Parks]

That's a very good point.

[Ish]

You a freak.

[Joe Budden]

Yo.

[Ish]

You're crazy.

[Parks]

I'm a realist, just like you rich niggas.

[Joe Budden]

He a vanilla freak, though. He a freak. But he a. I ain't freaky.

[Ish]

You mad freaky. I'm not always got these little saddle effects.

[Parks]

Yeah, silly. But I'm potting. But, dog, we know rich niggas get real. They get you.

[Ish]

Yes, yes, they do.

[Joe Budden]

Fuck.

[Ish]

Yo, you and you. We were just talking about that the other spot. I'm just saying.

[Parks]

Yo, straighten up.

[Ish]

What were we talking about? I'm just saying you about guys with power that will come into a room and put the girls on the pj. Yo, you and you. You coming?

[Parks]

No, not you and you. You, you, you, you, you and all Turks.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Do y'all not think I'm speaking to the men now? What she did, she did love.

[Ish]

She said.

[Melissa Ford]

I did not do.

[Joe Budden]

Do y'all not think? Well, everybody in here is involved, but in the event that you were not, do power dynamics come into play with most People you even if they don't work with you just because of who y'all are.

[Parks]

Oh, you talking now? I said up here before, y'all killed me. In every relationship there is an Alpha.

[Ish]

Good job, Ish.

[Parks]

In every man, woman, man, man, woman, woman relationship there's an Alpha. So there's a lot of relationships with the woman. Might be the power dynamic. It's a lot of women that wear the pants in these relationships. That's a power dynamic.

[Joe Budden]

You're right. That's why I do want to ask Mel too the same thing. Like in your romantic affairs outside of work, do you feel like there's a power dynamic with you or do you feel like. No. Like you are who you are?

[Melissa Ford]

No, no. I wouldn't classify it as a power dynamic more than I would classify it as somebody maybe just having a tendency to manipulate.

[Joe Budden]

What do you think about that, Mark?

[Ish]

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know enough about Mel's personal relationships to know the answer to that.

[Joe Budden]

But do you think that her. That all of my IG posts are manipulation?

[Melissa Ford]

No, for sake.

[Ish]

I. I haven't seen her. I haven't had the privilege of seeing her IG too much. I just saw the hot and bothered ads cuz I'm trying to support the show.

[Melissa Ford]

Thank you.

[Joe Budden]

Y'all can't with Mark break the press.

[Parks]

By himself.

[Joe Budden]

But this for Mark for winning rookie of the year at the JB MVP. Round of applause for Mark for winning rookie of the year.

[Ish]

Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

[Joe Budden]

Smoke the money and J1.

[Corey]

This a second year.

[Joe Budden]

I thought, huh?

[Corey]

I thought this is a money second year.

[Joe Budden]

Clean it up foreign parts.

[Ish]

I'm trying to clean it up.

[Joe Budden]

Smoke the money's boots on the rookie of the year vote. A lot less games played. Still wanted over ebook. Let me keep the applause going for me. I mean I want one best dressed out this. You know what I mean? Come on, man. I gotta take what I can. Take what I can, you know? I mean, all right. Y'all don't seem happy, but all right, move on, move on. Let me move on. It's fine.

[Ish]

This is all I was gonna say to tie this up is that power's everywhere. Every relationship got power. Every dynamic has power. Whether it's money, whether it's influence, whether it's looks. Somebody's more attractive, somebody got more options. There's always power.

[Parks]

Education, education, always power.

[Ish]

The question to me is, is the power coercive? Does this power force your hand in Ways that aren't fair. That's the only thing I care about. For example, like when you. If you. If you can't date a co. I'm using that as an example because, you know, I spend a lot of time in prisons. You can't date a co. Right, because people do.

[Parks]

They definitely do.

[Ish]

No, I don't love. They do. But again, to me, that's always coerced. There's no way to know until you leave that prison.

[Joe Budden]

You know what I.

[Ish]

Whether you have a. Whether it's. Whether it's fair or not.

[Joe Budden]

The part that I don't like about that take is power is.

[Parks]

Is Mark's wrong too.

[Joe Budden]

Is cunning. Power is silent. Power is. Power can coerce you without a word being for sure on. My only issue with that.

[Parks]

Every girl you've dated. No disrespect. You know, this is my people's. But yo, every girl or a percentage.

[Joe Budden]

I. I believe your peoples.

[Ish]

He knows my wife, you know, watch him out.

[Parks]

I'm saying I'm not being disrespectful to most women you've dated. You've been smarter than.

[Ish]

Except my wife.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Like I said, not.

[Ish]

Not many, not mo, not not all. Except not all. I ain't say all, but clean it up.

[Parks]

So that. That is a power dynamic.

[Joe Budden]

Using his brains. Back in the day.

[Parks]

Exactly.

[Joe Budden]

Back in the day. What we did. What we did. We was using our.

[Parks]

Anyway, yo, fam. So if you're saying that power is co. Coercive. When you are talking to a girl and you come. Yo, dog. Now let's just.

[Ish]

I feel what you're saying.

[Parks]

We fronting up here.

[Ish]

But here's the question. Here's the question.

[Parks]

We've talked our way into some pussy maybe.

[Ish]

Sure. It's just your bad power.

[Parks]

Coercion.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Parks]

You are using. You are mentally manipulating somebody to potentially do something that they. You convince somebody to give you some pussy.

[Ish]

Convincing isn't coercing. That's the difference. I can charm somebody into.

[Joe Budden]

Into.

[Ish]

Into making a choice that's different than.

[Parks]

It's not coercion.

[Ish]

No, no, no, no, no. When I. What I'm talking about. I'm talking about people operating against. Your therapist told you the very exact.

[Parks]

Same thing with regards to dating younger women, Joe, you are way more intelligent than them. You speak better than them. So you can mentally manipulate somebody.

[Melissa Ford]

You move the goal post by saying the. That the person is younger.

[Parks]

Coercion is depression. You don't have to be younger.

[Joe Budden]

Let me give you to be.

[Corey]

Give us some definition.

[Parks]

Coercion is the practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats. Oh, that's why I think.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, so it's not.

[Parks]

So we're gonna take that. So definitely not.

[Ish]

But the, the force. And that's why I said when you're somebody's boss, that's the word.

[Parks]

No.

[Ish]

Oh, okay.

[Parks]

We had a different.

[Ish]

Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Parks]

Not forceful or, or you can all.

[Ish]

We always talking ourselves into stuff and charming and convinced. That's. That's the world. I, I don't got no problem with that. I just don't want people to be in situations where they feel like they gotta their. Or they feel like they gotta fuck this person.

[Parks]

I think that's the R word.

[Corey]

Sure.

[Ish]

Okay. You know, I don't know if I would use that word, but I think.

[Parks]

That'S the R word. At the very least, me or you fired. I think that's the R word.

[Ish]

At the very least it's harassment. At the very least.

[Parks]

There's a gray area there too because that's what is presented that way. On the other side you have people that say, hey, if I fuck him, I might can advance a little bit. I might can do this or that. That ain't coming from the powerful person. That's the subordinate. Subordinates looking to get or going in there. Trying to heard stories of them wearing right certain things to an interview. Girls are doing that in college. Exactly.

[Joe Budden]

They was pulling up all Joy Taylor's old outfits that she wore to work. Every one of them.

[Corey]

That's crazy.

[Parks]

Were they provocative?

[Ish]

And it's up.

[Parks]

I ain't see it.

[Ish]

Cuz they ain't going to let you on the air unless you dress like. I was just getting ready. Yeah, they don't let you on the air if you dress like Ellen. But you, you got to wear that to get on.

[Corey]

And she's from Miami system you're talking about.

[Ish]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The whole thing is fucked up. That's all I'm saying. Saying it ain't joyful, it ain't nobody.

[Joe Budden]

I believe that that Skip is powerful enough to not have to pay 1.5 to new.

[Ish]

Yeah, I think so too.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Have we seen.

[Joe Budden]

Look, dog, if Robert Kraft ain't got to do it, Skip ain't got to do it.

[Parks]

And he makes Skip look like a welfare case.

[Joe Budden]

Facts.

[Ish]

I just think.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, but he was going to the rubbing tug.

[Ish]

Sometimes you just got to me meaning.

[Melissa Ford]

He was going to the place where there was an Expectation of there being a transactional sexual encounter.

[Joe Budden]

Sometimes wifey had to rub and tug. Now that's. That's people consistent clientele. I'm going here for Barbara.

[Parks]

How to get there 6.

[Joe Budden]

Damn.

[Corey]

Yo.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, Shannon here.

[Parks]

Damn the going over there to get that Nancy Reagan, man.

[Ish]

Nice.

[Melissa Ford]

Nice way.

[Joe Budden]

What that mean? I don't know what that means.

[Parks]

She's the Nancy re was known as the throat goat.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

In Hollywood.

[Parks]

In Hollywood.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, what are you telling me?

[Parks]

And that mouth her took her to the White House.

[Corey]

Facts.

[Parks]

Facts.

[Melissa Ford]

What you say? Like good mouth skin inside skin.

[Joe Budden]

That's a. That's a known thing. I never heard that before.

[Melissa Ford]

It's a googleable.

[Ish]

Her biographer said yeah. She used to be known on the MGM lot not just for doing it at night, but doing it in the offices.

[Joe Budden]

Well where the is she at?

[Melissa Ford]

Dead.

[Ish]

Sorry.

[Joe Budden]

She.

[Ish]

She passed away and she.

[Parks]

If she didn't pass away, she would be well within her 80s or 90s. Hold on.

[Joe Budden]

Grandma tell you what happened when the dentures come out. Now take the dentures.

[Ish]

I don't know.

[Parks]

Don't you ever do that again.

[Joe Budden]

This ice will go.

[Ish]

Wow.

[Joe Budden]

He can't talk.

[Parks]

Exactly. I ain't trying.

[Joe Budden]

He can't suck. Exactly. The. Was that damn D re for real?

[Ish]

Yeah. She was a beast. She was like celebrated for it. Like, she was like the tough.

[Joe Budden]

She was.

[Parks]

Oh, tough. She was Superhead before Superhead. I'm not even. And I ain't mad at Superhead neither. Nope.

[Joe Budden]

Ain't none of us mad at Superhead. But only one person had to just be mad at Super. I'm with for the Superhead app of hot and bother is what I'm waiting for.

[Ish]

Do y'all have beef?

[Joe Budden]

Good. Hold up. I.

[Melissa Ford]

No, we don't have beef.

[Joe Budden]

They have beef Bar.

[Parks]

We don't have beef.

[Joe Budden]

They have beef.

[Melissa Ford]

We don't have beef.

[Joe Budden]

Alyssa is mad at what Superhead's book did to all of the video vix.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay, I'm not mad.

[Joe Budden]

She. She has feelings that she hasn't healed. Healed yet.

[Ish]

I didn't know what.

[Joe Budden]

Again.

[Melissa Ford]

Again with the narrative. No, man, you said this countless times. I didn't say that I'm not healed.

[Joe Budden]

Why you never stand on that.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm not saying I didn't not healed from it. I just talk about the. I talk about the event in history from the perspective of which I had it. Currently, I do not feel these things because time heals all wounds. I'm over it, but it was shitty at the time.

[Joe Budden]

All right, so y'all pieced it up.

[Melissa Ford]

We haven't technically pieced it up. I haven't seen her say not healed.

[Parks]

No closure. No closure. True healing comes. Gotta get that closure.

[Joe Budden]

Does anybody here care about Drea going to the game with her kid to see her kid?

[Ish]

I hate that. I hate that. I'm sorry. I'm not usually judgmental, but there's something about taking your 22 year old boyfriend to see your 22 year old. Or take your 22 year old kid to see your 22 year old boyfriend play basketball.

[Corey]

Give him some tips.

[Ish]

I hate it. Dre is good. I hate it. I just hate it. It might be my own personal. I just don't think you should date somebody the same age as your kids.

[Parks]

Or that that's fair.

[Joe Budden]

Works with you.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Narrowing the pool down.

[Ish]

Yeah. To like 99 of the world.

[Parks]

Right.

[Ish]

Like I could. You could live with that, right? I don't want to date nobody. I got my kids.

[Joe Budden]

I agree with that. I wouldn't do it. Also, in a little teaser, that's what shook up the vacation house too. Corey.

[Corey]

Oh yeah.

[Joe Budden]

That is exactly what shook up the.

[Ish]

What, what happened?

[Parks]

I could only imagine. Cuz I know the people that were there. Oh, I know they was steam coming out they head.

[Joe Budden]

Cuz Corey met some young ladies that were, let's say 27, 28.

[Ish]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Some people in the house had children that were 27, 28.

[Parks]

See what I got to give it.

[Joe Budden]

To C Rock, man. I got to give it to Cor.

[Parks]

Me no speaking.

[Joe Budden]

I really got to give it to R. I really got to give to rim. But it still was on core to even.

[Parks]

REM is Chris Paulin.

[Corey]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

Dog word.

[Corey]

No, she better than Chris.

[Joe Budden]

It wasn't Chris Paul.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Stockton, Scott scows in that 33 assist. That 33 assist game.

[Parks]

Williams.

[Corey]

Yes.

[Ish]

Wow.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Cuz we go to the New Year's Eve party which is at like some playing in Hollywood, some out of town.

[Corey]

The only that was available to us. We had to make do.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Corey]

And we got in there and I did a little scouting mission and the two that were in front of us were the best talent in the house. Good talent, good talent. Talented young ladies.

[Parks]

Remember the A R?

[Joe Budden]

They did got my man Corey inside. They didn't speak much translation barrier, but.

[Corey]

Not with old rum around.

[Joe Budden]

REM went and stepped right to the business facts, quick and sealed. Sealed it bagged, signed, sealed, delivered. I'm yours.

[Parks]

And brought him home to Universal.

[Joe Budden]

Universal brought them over to the table, had a blast, was trying to work something out for the Night. For whatever reason, that didn't happen. But they was ready. And then the next day, they hit Remy. Hey, what you doing? Hola, Corey. Bum ass. Cory's such a bum. Yo.

[Parks]

The assist thrower. She was doing that at your wedding.

[Joe Budden]

Cory, the only single in the house. He gonna bring these two stallions over.

[Parks]

It was stallion.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, yes. One was a stallion. One was slim and beautiful, like Corey be liking them so. And oh, yeah, I got beef with Cory.

[Ish]

One was a swan.

[Joe Budden]

One. Corey is a shady, yo. So the tall, beautiful, beautiful, slim woman who now again, it's nothing but relationships on the trip. So is OG soon as Corey go get these two, I'm back in the cabana hiding somewhere. You ain't gonna jam me up, cut my eyes out. I don't see nobody. I don't see nobody. I don't need them. Yeah, Keno did the same. And it looked like Corey had rhythm with the tall, beautiful girl that didn't speak much English. And she was ready. She was ready to dip. Let's go back tonight. Party time.

[Ish]

Party time.

[Joe Budden]

And then somewhere within a course of like five minutes, Corey is now not on. The tall, beautiful girl switched.

[Corey]

Switched on him.

[Joe Budden]

He switched and got on the short stallion. That's a mistake. I didn't like that from Corey.

[Corey]

That's a mistake.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't like that from Corey.

[Corey]

You gotta be singular in your target in these situations.

[Joe Budden]

That was really disgusting of you, Cory, how you switched like. Like that. So then he was hugged up or, or. Or extra communicative with this. What you clapping about? Oh, you think that fly, they jumped you? Oh, you like that movie? All right, never mind, never mind. I forgot where I was at. Room full of vultures.

[Melissa Ford]

What happened with the tall one? When? Since you went with the swan. What'd the tall one do? Just stand around, do?

[Parks]

Nobody was with both.

[Joe Budden]

Well, the tall one, this is where.

[Corey]

The problem came in.

[Joe Budden]

Ultimately had a man. And when they came. When they came over the next day, I guess he wasn't pleased that they was over there. So she dipped off to use the phone. But we had a DJ set playing throughout the speakers. There was no quiet area for her to run and talk to her man. Yo, she went off to talk to her man nigga Boo Gotti. And R. Kelly was blasting yes Nah. Yes, Nah, Yes, Nah. Jake admitted with the green. She told myself, yeah, now it's loud. It's loud. It is.

[Parks]

And I don't hear no spanning.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, she had to get out of there. We're in this beautiful big ass Mansion overlooking the monkeys and grass right there. Rainforest. She had to go cliff Save about 20 minutes. Hey, Cory invited them bitches over for breakfast. How did I fuck Cory up? This is the good breakfast. Tukino made some good ass fish. Yeah, we had mad people at the table. Cory feeding the bitch fish.

[Ish]

Yo.

[Joe Budden]

Cory at the table feeding the bitch.

[Parks]

Right? And it's a pool.

[Corey]

Yes.

[Parks]

Is that a pool? Is that a bed? Yo.

[Joe Budden]

What? Look, yo, don't feed your scragglers our good fish for breakfast. We barely made it the one good meal.

[Parks]

Guys trips.

[Joe Budden]

Now it's done. Wait, what? What? We can't go on no guys trips. Oh, yeah, you got punishment. Who you? No, but I mean, she say I can't go on no God strips anyway.

[Melissa Ford]

That's a fact.

[Joe Budden]

And her reason being I've stopped too many girl trips. But I don't believe that you stopped the girls trip. That's what she say. Oh, I don't recall that.

[Corey]

Okay. I endorse the girls trip.

[Parks]

Me too.

[Joe Budden]

I'll fund that. Go. I'll sponsor the trip.

[Corey]

Yeah, smart.

[Joe Budden]

She probably talking about one of them carnivals.

[Corey]

Well, there is. There is probably limits. Yeah, there's some.

[Melissa Ford]

There's some Trinidad. Yeah. Last year, y.

[Ish]

Trying to go this.

[Joe Budden]

She need to call Dr. Ari, cut all that off and then go take the girl trip. What?

[Parks]

Yo, shut the fuck.

[Joe Budden]

God you God. They all shaped big and stupid now. Talking about. Get your ass over here. It's gonna be tough for me to find a private eye at the carnival. That's gonna be a little more expensive than that little Miami private eye.

[Ish]

It's gonna be crazy, yo.

[Joe Budden]

All right, so we done with Drea. Mark is disgusted by Drea. Cool. Is there any music, Is there any music that we need? Look at, look at park.

[Ish]

Now.

[Corey]

Yes. The album's absolutely incredible. Musically, it's probably his best project. He's did a lot of infusion with salsa, which he's Puerto Rican, so he's really played into that. The last album was more Dominican music, merengue. And like that. Absolutely incredible album. Absolutely incredible.

[Joe Budden]

I haven't heard it yet. I'm going.

[Corey]

I've played it 30 times. Like playing with my mother in law in the car, all that. She's loving it, cuz. It's got salsa, old school vibes like.

[Ish]

Like the beating stuff. You don't understand what he's saying?

[Corey]

I understand what he's saying a little bit. Like, I can't do like a direct translation, but I understand enough Spanish to. Okay, get the gist of the song. And if I have a question, my wife speaks Spanish. I be like, what you talking about?

[Parks]

Absolutely have that. It just sound good, that's all. Get him dancing. Yeah.

[Ish]

I don't really have to know, but.

[Parks]

I don't know what he's saying.

[Corey]

Anybody that's taking some level of Spanish is going to understand a little bit of this to be like, okay, I get what he's.

[Joe Budden]

I get.

[Corey]

I get what he's stepping in.

[Parks]

Quarante 40.

[Ish]

I gotta hear it.

[Parks]

40 hills.

[Joe Budden]

Absolutely incredible.

[Ish]

Something's wrong with you, sir.

[Parks]

Stiletto. There we go. That's it.

[Joe Budden]

That's it. You talking about Shout out to Bad Bunny.

[Corey]

He don't miss.

[Joe Budden]

I. I am going to check it out. I know that's Parks, man. I ain't been listening too much.

[Corey]

I know.

[Joe Budden]

I love this. Give me some.

[Ish]

Move.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, wait, I got. Hold up. He killed that. He killed that.

[Parks]

I ain't going.

[Ish]

He really did.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, listen, buddy.

[Corey]

This is the slide who did his track. It sound like Manny Freshman.

[Parks]

Just like juvie on the remix.

[Corey]

Asap.

[Joe Budden]

This is.

[Parks]

That's Juvie Little cousin.

[Joe Budden]

On the credits, it says that Lamelo produced this.

[Ish]

Oh, for real?

[Corey]

Oh, wow.

[Joe Budden]

It says he produced and arranged it. It says that Lonzo wrote it, and it says that LiAngelo performed it.

[Corey]

Oh, wow.

[Parks]

Oh, we going to keep this money right in the family.

[Corey]

Wow.

[Joe Budden]

I love that about them. And la I fuck with. Listen, even y'all niggas that never got y'all BBB sneakers, it was still a great idea.

[Parks]

It's an amazing idea.

[Joe Budden]

He just needed to use the good glue on the sole. Cause Lonzo had broke his ankle. He was already battling some injuries when he put the shoe on. What he should have did, and he broke his ankle.

[Parks]

Should have took one Nike deal or one major deal.

[Corey]

Got the. Got the information.

[Parks]

Got a little bit of information and used that deal to.

[Joe Budden]

Ah, fuck Nike.

[Parks]

His other ventures.

[Joe Budden]

You're right. But Nike, I'm so glad at the players. I ain't like how they did Kyrie, so I like their stock dropping and all the players putting out their own sneaker, whether it's hot or not.

[Parks]

Or going to other smaller brands. Like, it's another smaller brand that my man is. Is a endorsee of, and he got some equity in it. And the. Is kind of fire. I don't.

[Joe Budden]

You know, this do sound like a big timers record to me. It does. Yeah.

[Parks]

It sounds like Manny Fresh is on that juvie coming on there. Going right after that hook.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Going crazy.

[Corey]

Sound like Juvia.

[Parks]

It sounds like juvie.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I love them with all of this. 2002, 2003 mad. And all of the memes that they coming out with all of the just. I like the song.

[Parks]

I like this.

[Joe Budden]

I like the song. I ain't gonna lie. Sorry.

[Parks]

I see gassing at his ass. No. Sometimes just dope.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Y'all think he got an album in him?

[Joe Budden]

I'm not gonna go that far.

[Corey]

Yeah, we'll see. We'll see.

[Parks]

I think a lot of these got album in them episodes.

[Ish]

Me.

[Parks]

Yo, you gotta think some of these boys grew up on that. Grew up on this ain't. This ain't Allen Iverson doing 40 bars again where they like.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, wait.

[Parks]

Interjecting hip hop into the NBA. Get this the out of here. This a new. This a new era. Yeah. Like, all these grew up literally on hip hop, so. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

They.

[Corey]

They're not from New Orleans, are they?

[Joe Budden]

I don't know where they're from.

[Ish]

The West Coast.

[Corey]

Interesting.

[Joe Budden]

All the new babies from LA, like, 20, however old. These are so stupid. That's just hard. I ain't going to lie. I might request that to strip club.

[Corey]

I was actually cool when I saw it going viral and that push play, I was like, oh, no.

[Parks]

I thought they was doing the Internet again. All right, here we go. Oh, wait a minute.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. No, I gave him a little head. No.

[Parks]

I saw a couple DJ DJs put their videos up. I dropped it in the club. Worked.

[Joe Budden]

I'd like to hear it in the club. I would. I'd like to hear with a. Power dynamics are in play, if that. Come on. When I got the power dynamic. Oh, my God.

[Corey]

Do some coercion.

[Joe Budden]

A mouse. They reviewed the Drake Freestyle while we were gone.

[Parks]

What did y'all say? Because I didn't watch. Did y'all like it? I did. Yeah, I did.

[Corey]

I did.

[Parks]

Oh, okay. I like the Drake freestyle as well. I saw the complaint of everybody saying how they didn't like he rhymed. Pretty much like the same rhyme flow throughout the entire freestyle.

[Joe Budden]

Shut up.

[Parks]

I think that's that y'all are even now. Y'all don't like it because when him and J. Cole did it on Evil Wage, I loved it. Like, I think people are looking for a reason to now not like whatever Drake does. If something. My only thing that I hated about the freestyle was one that oven line.

[Ish]

That was trash.

[Parks]

I didn't like that line.

[Corey]

What was.

[Joe Budden]

The line was closer than kitchens and ovens. Ovens and kitchens.

[Parks]

I. I didn't I just didn't like it.

[Corey]

I feel like he's had cringy bar.

[Joe Budden]

In the spirit of keeping the. The rhyme scheme going. I wasn't mad at that.

[Parks]

That's it. I just said I didn't like the line.

[Joe Budden]

And ovens and kitchens do be closed.

[Corey]

Well, they're more than close, but whatever.

[Ish]

Don't make sense.

[Parks]

They don't. But I. With the freestyle, I just. I just want.

[Joe Budden]

I want.

[Parks]

I wanted a CDQ quality.

[Corey]

Of course.

[Parks]

That's it. Of course that's it. Like, he been quiet for a minute. Finally he threw something out. It don't sound brand new. Like he just did it last night.

[Corey]

Or something is left over from the Scary Hours sessions.

[Parks]

And he's teasing more. Conductor. Shit. It had the four wires. I don't know if this is a scary. I was four coming. That's all produced by a conductor or something. I'm excited to hear.

[Corey]

Oh, you think that's what that meant? Conductor.

[Ish]

Okay.

[Parks]

Conductor.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, those were the conductor wires.

[Ish]

I thought he was rapping his ass off. I enjoyed it. I haven't enjoyed a Drake track in a long time. Probably since what Family Matters. I thought it was great. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed hearing and you know, back to that. It's lonely at the top. Drake. That it's, you know, everybody's disloyal to me. Drake. I don't like the shit was a.

[Corey]

Nothing but a LeBron diss track.

[Ish]

Well, that's exactly what it was.

[Parks]

I think it was Braun. I think it might have been a little bit of everybody, man. I think that shit was bron.

[Joe Budden]

I think it was what gave it away. The watches gave it away for me.

[Ish]

Yeah, it was very specific.

[Joe Budden]

And I don't think DeMar DeRozan was at the Hamptons party.

[Ish]

And Drake is right. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, yo, I can feel him and connect. Pause. I can feel what he's saying. I can connect with his energy on this. And I usually, again, don't. I'm not inclined to do that. But not only was he rapping his ass off, but he was like, yo, this was fucked up. This is how close we were. And this is what you did. I thought it was the vulnerable Drake again. It was the rapping Drake. I respected the track and I liked it. And again, he was rapping his ass off. And I thought rapping that same cadence was actually was fine.

[Joe Budden]

That's difficult to do. I want to say that for the people that don't know that that is difficult to do. I saw Rob Markman say the same. Anybody that has tried to do it, that's difficult to do, so salute to him had not cut you off.

[Ish]

Real quick.

[Joe Budden]

Cut me off.

[Parks]

My bad. Apologize. That's the part I don't like about it is today they just run and say, oh, you could just use AI and just punched in a bunch of words. And then like, fam. It's not easy to rhyme. Like, everybody. If everybody. If it was that easy, everybody would be doing this. So, yeah, like, y'all. It just seemed like you grasping for. For reasons or excuses to try to discredit some shit instead of just saying, all right, I see what he did here, and it's hard.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

That's a nice sweatsuit, too.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Oh, thank you.

[Corey]

Let's try to keep that best dress streak alive.

[Ish]

He got pearls on the zipper.

[Melissa Ford]

That's nice.

[Joe Budden]

No, I was do. I had to do retail therapy to survive my over a month stay in wherever the I was staying at. Thank God for my. Thank God for my experience in.

[Parks]

And niggas call me your man over here, blah, blah, blah.

[Ish]

And on top of you don't look.

[Parks]

Like I'll be knowing your whole life.

[Ish]

You don't look like you fell off at all.

[Parks]

Your man at dinner with his son. I'm looking at him, I'm like, damn.

[Joe Budden]

You was at dinner with your son?

[Parks]

You was at dinner with your son?

[Joe Budden]

I mean, I have dinner with my son sometimes recently. Yeah.

[Parks]

I don't.

[Ish]

How's every. You've been okay? Everything's been all right?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

I've been looking at your wrists this whole time on the podcast. The right one. I see a new bracelet on there.

[Melissa Ford]

No, that's not new.

[Joe Budden]

Excuse me. Mind your business.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay.

[Corey]

This is new.

[Joe Budden]

Damn.

[Ish]

How you see that? That one is new.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, okay. Sorry. I will shut.

[Joe Budden]

Pocket watching is back.

[Ish]

It's not Pocket Watching.

[Joe Budden]

Not pocket watching 2022.

[Ish]

I mean, we had the gift.

[Joe Budden]

This is cool.

[Ish]

We had the conversation. I'm not Pocket Watch. I'm just saying that, you know, you look healthy and you look happy.

[Joe Budden]

Retail therapy is how I survived being displaced for over a month.

[Ish]

Nice.

[Joe Budden]

And if you are displaced from over a month, you cannot do too much retail therapy because there's nowhere to put.

[Parks]

To store the shit loaded up that little closet.

[Joe Budden]

There's no way to walk. There's no way to walk in there. I want to. I'm so grateful for my years and years and years of tour life experience to help to help me cope.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

With having to be in a hotel.

[Corey]

For that long hotel room of the month is regular for tour.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Corey]

And at least now is a nice hotel.

[Parks]

And you had a suite.

[Joe Budden]

And without having to perform.

[Parks]

You had a suite. It was the same hotel.

[Joe Budden]

They all.

[Ish]

You got to pick up.

[Joe Budden]

Go leaves, go to another one. They all suites. You.

[Parks]

You stayed in multiple.

[Joe Budden]

The first few weeks, I had to hop around.

[Corey]

Oh, that's holiday season.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

You can see the first few weeks, it's very difficult to find a room that's for like two and three weeks.

[Parks]

And you don't know how long because you thinking like you said, they tell you a date, you're like, all right, we done then. Nope.

[Joe Budden]

Nope.

[Parks]

Another date. Another date. So you and.

[Joe Budden]

And I'm gonna tell y'all. I'm gonna tell y'all.

[Parks]

This is what I.

[Joe Budden]

This is what I learned in my month. And this is local news now. Which we are getting the local news for a second. That residence in is a lot better.

[Melissa Ford]

Than arm you really.

[Joe Budden]

It's too mixy. Army's too mixy. Every time you get in the elevator that stop at every floor, you see every. From your past on. It's on the sixth floor. You see everybody. You know, every residence in everything is a suite. You get a kitchen and ain't nobody nowhere. A Ain't a family over here. Anybody with the kids.

[Parks]

I wouldn't.

[Joe Budden]

That's it.

[Parks]

I've never been in either one of them. Well, I've been in the RV when.

[Joe Budden]

We was doing Antoine Marby.

[Parks]

I've been in the aview when we was doing it. The planning. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Antoine Marvy.

[Ish]

Yo, stop doing it.

[Parks]

I went to our view when we was doing.

[Joe Budden]

I heard you already. I'm just saying your name, my G. Probably never even been in there outside of that.

[Ish]

How much work you that stupid?

[Joe Budden]

No, it's just the man. I was getting to something. I don't. Oh, Drake is what we was talking about. Listen, I'm not saying nothing about this because I've said everything about Drake that I need to say. But it was a few bars in here. That's funny. First of all, that whole. This probably the only part where he didn't keep up exactly with the flow. He was doing. Doing. And I don't like that flow. I'm over that flow.

[Ish]

I'm tired of that.

[Joe Budden]

I'm tired of rhyming on the three. I'm. That's his thing. That's his. That's his thing. He's mastered. He's done it. I want to hear him get off of that. But I'm not here to be negative.

[Parks]

I don't even know what that means. Yeah, I looked at part.

[Corey]

Four beats in the bar.

[Joe Budden]

There's four beats in the bar.

[Ish]

Two, three, four.

[Corey]

He's hitting the rhyme of the three.

[Joe Budden]

He keeps. He keeps dropping the rhyme on the three. Three. Okay. And when he tries to get freaky, it's the one and the three. It's. It's odd, but it's his fire that don't make me have to ruin your public image. I don't like public being public, but for the flow. But what do y'all think about that bar?

[Ish]

I about to say it was the snitchy part to be there.

[Parks]

Say that's what I don't like about it.

[Corey]

Right.

[Joe Budden]

The threat. Come on.

[Parks]

Goes to the theory that why Brian wasn't fucking with him no more.

[Joe Budden]

Don't make me have to ruin your public image.

[Ish]

I've. I've heard different theories that that wasn't actually about LeBron, that that might have been about Demar and that that might have been about how Demar, when he was broken down in Toronto, was so emotionally emotional wreck at the crib when he was. When he was helping him emotionally.

[Joe Budden]

That's public already.

[Parks]

All right, so what's his public image?

[Joe Budden]

No, but Demar. They depression is public.

[Ish]

Yeah, but the idea was that he was going to talk about how basically he was.

[Parks]

How would that ruin your public image though? What is. I'm asking what is Demar's public image?

[Ish]

I'm not. I'm not saying that that's the answer.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know if Demar got enough public image for you to ruin his public image.

[Parks]

To me, that's Braun. Depends on you.

[Ish]

I hope not.

[Parks]

Depends on. That's Bron. Public image of the squeaky clean family man who ain't got no smut on him.

[Ish]

I'm with you.

[Parks]

I can ruin. And then there was the rumors of why his wife was so happy to be at the pop out and all of that. And I don't want you around him no more.

[Ish]

Yep.

[Joe Budden]

That.

[Parks]

That's what I took from him.

[Ish]

I heard all. That's how I heard it. The way you heard it. But then other people, maybe they were just caping for LeBron or for Drake. They were saying he wasn't. Drake wouldn't do that. He was actually talking about Demar. He was talking about this person. He was talking about that person. People trying to find an alternative to him just ratting out.

[Joe Budden]

That song was about LeBron James fighting Irish. The fighting Irish freestyle.

[Ish]

No, I'm with you again. I think it was about LeBron, but I've heard other theories. I'm just saying there are other people saying some other shit.

[Joe Budden]

I don't claim to know. If it is about LeBron. That's a funny bar. Why would you say that? It's fucked up.

[Ish]

It's fucked up.

[Joe Budden]

And I don't think he would ever do that.

[Parks]

Put it past him. Don't threaten me with no snitch.

[Ish]

That's enough. That is doing it.

[Parks]

Don't threaten. Nigga, the fact that you threaten a snitch is enough to get you.

[Joe Budden]

That can make my household a little rotter.

[Ish]

That's what I'm saying.

[Parks]

And that's my goal.

[Joe Budden]

And Savannah already don't talking to LeBron. Little friends. But that wasn't the funniest bar to me. I'm fast forwarding to the funniest bar N. This is a sassy little. Listen to this bar.

[Ish]

You can't help yourself.

[Joe Budden]

Only him put. Now listen to this bar.

[Parks]

I got a subtle addiction. I got my father's habits and I got my mother's permission. My dad has another child. I told him that wasn't my sister.

[Ish]

Grew up with dozens of Jews.

[Parks]

I ain't get that one.

[Ish]

I don't care.

[Parks]

Yo, guys.

[Joe Budden]

I just pictured my dad has another child. I told him that wasn't my sister.

[Parks]

I don't with him.

[Corey]

Yeah, but some people be on that.

[Ish]

That's a lot of be on that.

[Joe Budden]

That's funny, baby. It's still funny to say it. Yo, can I. I want to comment on that. I don't give a About Drake daughter that. That y'all looking for. For or Dennis's grandkid. I don't care.

[Ish]

Right.

[Joe Budden]

This witch hunt that y'all on. Even if y'all fine.

[Ish]

I don't care.

[Joe Budden]

It's 2025. I'm not Drake Kendricking my. My 2025.

[Corey]

I feel like we're gonna have to live through this forever.

[Ish]

I love that line.

[Joe Budden]

No, I'm not doing it no more.

[Corey]

I don't want to, but I feel like it's gonna.

[Joe Budden]

They gotta do something new for me to get back on. We did it. It was six months. Everybody got paid. Everybody got paid. Everybody did the content. We all got up. Us, Lucien, everything. It's over. They gotta do some new shit. And I don't think. I do think some new shit will happen this year.

[Parks]

I think so, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

It's gonna have to happen.

[Ish]

I love that sister line, though.

[Joe Budden]

Man, to me, that is the funniest. Drake is hilarious.

[Ish]

I thought he was. Cause remember earlier in the rap when he was saying that, I thought I got another brother with LeBron, right? He thought he'd come along with another brother. So he said, even my blood, I don't claim as a sister, but I thought you were my brother.

[Parks]

Like everybody.

[Ish]

To me, that shit was actually kind of dope when he tied it back. Tied it back.

[Joe Budden]

That's some PhD shit you just did right there. I didn't even think of that could.

[Ish]

Be wrong, but that's what it seems like.

[Parks]

If he said that, that's. I mean, if he was referring to potentially ratting on a nigga, that is some goofy shit. But him being upset at a nigga that you might have thought was genuinely your friend and your brother, brother, I don't think that's goofy at all.

[Joe Budden]

Me neither. I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at. Pardon me. The vulnerability of it. UMG took it down, right?

[Corey]

Yeah, yeah. And I don't think it's been put anywhere.

[Ish]

It's just on YouTube, which is interesting.

[Joe Budden]

Any takeaways from that?

[Corey]

They're the lawsuit. Yeah, I think that's what it is.

[Parks]

You suing us?

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Parks]

No, you don't get to put out music. Fuck the lawsuit. You don't know artists. You don't just get to drop music if you're signed to us. Anybody that drops a song out of nowhere on, whether it be Instagram or something, or YouTube or something, the label's gonna come and strike it down. If we don't have. No, we didn't okay it.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, but them doing that. Them doing that to Drake is different under this.

[Corey]

Under regular circumstances, I don't think they would have a problem at all with Drake or any other large artist dropping a song however they want to. They don't care. Yeah, they're gonna make some money.

[Parks]

They gonna make money. I agree. But any other artist, any artist that that size.

[Joe Budden]

Drop pause. Yo, what the is up with you?

[Parks]

Any. Any major artist wouldn't even do that. They're gonna drop with their label, cuz they making the money with them. The big names are in. They working with the labels. The labels are doing whatever the big name wants you to do.

[Corey]

I'm not sure that all the. The battle records that were getting dropped on IG were all sanctioned. I don't know. I don't know if that's true. It might have been because some of them didn't get released. So that kind of Says that true. That was just some. Hey, I'm Kendrick. I'm dropping the song When I want. Hey, I'm Drake When I Want.

[Parks]

Drake came out with a song Friday night. Twenty seconds later, Kendrick put some out. Yeah, I don't know if that got clearances first. Yeah, I had to step on this. The paperwork, right.

[Joe Budden]

Point party next door tweeted P5, which people are now saying, hey, hold up, big dog. Like, where's the Drake and party record.

[Corey]

I think all, all official releases from Drake is going to be on hold till they get some clarity in these lawsuits, I would imagine.

[Joe Budden]

I think that Drake got to be. And I'm not the biggest fan of the Drake and conductor shit. I've said that I'm already record with it. It's not a surprise. Don't try to kill me for my take. However, I don't think none of the good, good rapping is going to. Is going to. I think his biggest bout is with his label saying, you're on the downside of whatever it is you're doing and we treat you like that. So the good rapping is great for the fans that want to hear great rappers rapping. At some point, I think he has to do something to dispel the label thinking that. Which is why everybody keeps sitting around waiting for the slap.

[Parks]

For the hit, right? For the hit. Yeah, I think he. I think he's torn because some niggas be like, yo, I don't want to hear that hit. I want you to rap, nigga. This hip hop nigga. And they dissing him for, yeah, we know you can make hits.

[Joe Budden]

You gotta do both of you.

[Parks]

You know what I'm saying?

[Corey]

He's always, he's always.

[Parks]

He's never been in this position in his life.

[Corey]

That's true.

[Parks]

He's never been in this position in his life. He's always been the label darling and they suck at my dick and I could do whatever I want. He got contention there. He's always been outside of the Pusha T shirt and the Pusha T shit was a punch in the face. This Kendrick shit was a body slam and a stomp. He never been here, so he don't he trying to please everybody. I'm accustomed to being up here and everybody reveres me. This is probably the first time in his life, at least in the last 20 years, that he might be more disliked in the public than he was at one point, than liked. He's never experienced that. And the other side is you always had the label's backing yeah. You always had the machine. True. So now he's never been in this place before. You gonna see we put you there. I think it was a marriage. It was a marriage. It was a marriage, but. But we had just as much. We're just as responsible for that as you are. You think you can do it without us, and you keep trying. And I also think. I think he got shit and he don't want to release it with them. And we got beef, so if we got beef, you know what I'm saying? I think he got fire. And I'm sure you're fire. I want to get away from y'all, so I want to hold my fire so that when I go somewhere else, I can immediately release my heat and be like, suck my dick. I could still do this.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Parks]

You hear what I'm saying? Like, that's my personal opinion. I think that he got some shit in the tuck. And as soon as I get over here to wherever my new situation is.

[Corey]

I'm not positive he wants to get fully away from them either. He might just want better terms for where he's at.

[Ish]

Yeah. You may go to Warner.

[Parks]

Maybe.

[Corey]

Maybe it's possible. Just speculation. I think he's looking. Looking out for whatever's best for him.

[Parks]

I agree. Which he should at this point.

[Joe Budden]

He had business dealings with Sony, right?

[Corey]

I'm not sure. I don't think so.

[Joe Budden]

His OVO imprint was where that.

[Corey]

I don't know.

[Joe Budden]

Let's look it up. I remember him having. I remember him having some type of something with Sony.

[Ish]

So wait, when the emperor.

[Corey]

Warner.

[Joe Budden]

Warner, yes, yes. Warner.

[Corey]

Distributed by Sony and Republic.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, Warner. Yeah, yeah.

[Ish]

When you sign, you can't put any music out if you want to.

[Parks]

I mean, that's what I hear from artists. Supposed to, right? Like, it's artists that can't even go do a freestyle. Can't go and upload anything.

[Corey]

Depends on your standing. Yeah, it depends on your standing with the label.

[Parks]

And then you got other people that find a way to leak something. And if it bubble enough.

[Corey]

Yeah, we'll pick that up.

[Parks]

Oh, oh, you do got something. All right, now let's get involved in. Let's put some money behind it. So it's. It's a battle, but it's a pecking order. When you at the top, usually you.

[Corey]

Can do what the fuck you want. Drake can do what the he wants. Taylor Swift can do what the she wants, but can do what the he wants.

[Parks]

But you beefing with us. So you at the top, but you're still Beefing with us. We're not gonna try to do nothing to help you. We're not gonna let you put out a dope freestyle and catch some steam that might incentivize you to put out another. And you know what I'm saying? And another. No. You trying to leave us. We want to hurt your leverage. We want to kill your value. We're going to kill all of this.

[Joe Budden]

Did anybody hear? Hear? Wham. Little babies project?

[Parks]

I did.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

I'm halfway through. I listened to it a couple times.

[Corey]

I tried a couple times.

[Joe Budden]

Give it to me. Give it to me. What do you think? I'm seeing mixed reviews online.

[Parks]

It's not that bad. Yeah, it ain't as bad as the Internet for me.

[Corey]

It wasn't horrible. I found. I found it rather unspectacular, though. There's a couple slaps on there. But for the most part, it was kind of just cool.

[Parks]

I tweeted before this album came out that I have very low expectations and this is probably the one project that I am hoping to be proven wrong about. And I was like, I fuck with the album. It's maybe four records that I could do without. It's some that are definitely going on the playlist. I would have liked him to have some other features. I do get tired of hearing this same little group of him, 21, future thug. Like, I don't really want to hear that as much.

[Joe Budden]

This is where I wanted to hear Drake.

[Parks]

I would have loved to hear Drake.

[Joe Budden]

This is where I wanted to hear Drake.

[Parks]

So when we came in, I said that he put the deluxe out. I thought Drake would have been on the deluxe. Yeah, he did drop. I didn't get a chance to listen to the drop. I thought Drake would have been on a deluxe, especially for him to put it out that early. And it didn't get as many good reviews as he might have hoped for. I thought that Drake would have been on a deluxe and that would have been his.

[Corey]

His still requires clearance. True.

[Parks]

I got a question. That would have been his. His secret weapon. You know what I'm saying?

[Corey]

Still go. Goes right back to the conversation. Yeah, still.

[Parks]

I got. I got a question here.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, wait, real quick. What Drake features have we gotten recently?

[Corey]

The Cabela.

[Joe Budden]

I can remember all of them pop shits. Yeah, that's a great point.

[Parks]

That's it.

[Corey]

And that was still before.

[Parks]

And that was pre beef. He just pushed it back. Once the beef got got heavy, he pushed it back.

[Joe Budden]

All right, what you were saying, Coach.

[Parks]

KMP sold qc, right? Do we Know if they still active in like running it. Yeah, I think they. I think that was the report when they first sold it.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Because I'm. I was trying to see where went a little different with Lil Baby's music. And I'm like, if they sold it and they might have been like the. But the A's behind it, that could explain some things for me.

[Joe Budden]

So I was just wondering P. Hit me recently about some QC shit. So I would assume yes, if I'm assuming.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Two, when you sell your shit, typically they ask you to stay on for.

[Parks]

A period of time to run.

[Joe Budden]

To continue to run it and to try to answer your question, I was telling Parks outside side. I actually like this Little Baby.

[Parks]

I like it too.

[Joe Budden]

I like it.

[Corey]

I was just expecting more, I guess.

[Joe Budden]

See now I being that people have.

[Corey]

Been saying for a couple years now he fell off or whatever, whatever. I was kind of expecting him to try to prove extra hard that he.

[Ish]

Hadn'T like the gun.

[Corey]

It's solid. It's just not.

[Parks]

I don't get what do people expect from Little Baby.

[Ish]

That's what I was going to ask you.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know Lava, to answer you. Like, I think there was a period where anytime you heard his voice, it was absolute insanity. It was Lava, it was boiling.

[Parks]

And then we get tired of it or it gets to be the same thing for too long. And now people are starting to say, I want to hear something else from you. So I say again, what are y'all expecting him to do?

[Joe Budden]

Well, that's if I have to critique this and let me play a little bit first because I do like it. But again, I'm not the Lil Baby album fan fan. I don't go into Lil Baby albums expecting illmatic.

[Parks]

Did you hear My turn the album?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

That is a phenomenal album. That.

[Joe Budden]

At his peak.

[Parks]

That is his peak. That's his only album.

[Joe Budden]

No.

[Parks]

Oh, no.

[Joe Budden]

I'm sorry. Excuse me.

[Parks]

The one afterwards. The one afterwards. It's only me. Yeah, but that was his first album. Again, like you said, you got your whole career to make your first album. Everything else has been mixtapes.

[Corey]

Right.

[Joe Budden]

And I try not to judge artists at their peak. When you have all cylinders firing, like I want to hear you in your gunner moment when things are down, when the fans a little iffy on you, I want to hear what you coming out with.

[Corey]

But that's a good example of what kind of I expected. I guess as a. I'm a Little Baby fan. I'm not like a die hard fan. Like I don't know, my turn back and forth. I've listened to it a bunch of times. I kind of expected a gun moment from him, I. I guess.

[Joe Budden]

And it's time for the is.

[Corey]

It's not obviously as bad as it was for gunna the world against him, but people turned on him a little bit. I was expecting a bigger show and.

[Parks]

I did see an interview with him where he said like I'm. I'm kind of. It's a little harder for him because again, at this point in hip hop I gotta watch what I say.

[Corey]

Yeah, true.

[Parks]

Well, so I can't really get into too much. I gotta kind of be a little.

[Joe Budden]

Well, that's what I was gonna tell you on my critique of the project. I can by. By the second half this shit got a little redundant to me. Like some of the songs get to sounding the same and it's just all a blur. But production wise, even if the beat sound like another beat you heard, all the beats are fire and I could see people get. My barber was tired of his sing songy repetitive flow but I think that's largely due to the content show changing. He can't talk like he used to talk and on this album you hear him not talking like that. So it's fire to me but it's not what we're used to from Lil baby but this intro. Come on man. Come on, man.

[Parks]

New crib in another state of duck off you get on my nerves off run away train I didn't took off I move with a purpose give him the right influence that's how I'm the big dog I'm with the clappers I better not throw a punch for all of the rappers hope they get a mistrial no more spending more than I'm saving laying this pile living kitty that was corny I had to switch down AM's on the crib confirmation 8 minute wow I took the little bros and I mowed them they know to hold it down I got lots of dollars and years and a whole lot of pounds I lived in conditions you can't pay to go around we in Miami PJ to the BP I can't lie this okay for me locking in the studio all night she going to wait for me she told me she treat you like a lame she don't play with me she say I'm going favorite backwards they get a little money, spend it all and then they ask for something I grew up with me and dollar hitter still ain't ask for nothing it up I Probably get a front or something. Run my money up in like a month or something. I'm with the hustlers running circles around these rapping. No discussion for me. I got still stuck in the trench and she'll be with me. I was shaking emails on the plane and she start sucking on me. It ain't no bus damage.

[Joe Budden]

And you know what?

[Ish]

That's hard.

[Joe Budden]

This is absolutely crazy. This is how you start the album. This is absolutely crazy. That song is called Listen Up. It's track number one. Also, I don't want to talk like his content is changing because he can no longer incriminate himself. I don't think that's fair.

[Parks]

It's twofold.

[Joe Budden]

It could just grow.

[Parks]

He grew. Yes.

[Joe Budden]

And let me tell y'all, all of that other shit that y'all see him doing. The showing the house off, showing the art piece off. That's an expensive publicist. That's doing that rebrand. That is costly. It's costing him six figures to change how he is viewed. And fans don't be wanting to see you grow.

[Corey]

No, they don't.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, they. They, they don't. I think 21 Savage went absolutely crazy on this album. His verse streak continues for me. This is track two. Dumb, dumb, dumb, Dumb and Dumber. Young Thug and Future Future. I think Thug and Future went crazy on this.

[Parks]

Four stones and the LDs at the bottom.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. This is how I want my little baby to sound. This is how I want my little baby to sound. That beat is beat. Oh, one of my new favorites.

[Parks]

100 time platinum dealership. He went crack smoker. I was living with weird hoes. I ain't dealing with them overseas. They love a real. She don't like it but she deal with Robbies back to back. That's tough. Hear us around the corner. That's us putting on stuff. Flip phone, black Nike. We didn't done it all with.

[Joe Budden]

Trying to let him cook. But I really want to get the talking future.

[Parks]

I'm having my way the whole time. 2 Lamb Cool Lamb trucks.

[Joe Budden]

They order the honey cheese.

[Corey]

This is a complete side note. Apparently present to be. Donald Trump said he's going to rename the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf.

[Ish]

Of America.

[Parks]

And he getting Canada too.

[Joe Budden]

I just read that out. That crazy.

[Corey]

He is nuts.

[Ish]

I'm going to name the government comedy. He's definitely comedy.

[Corey]

He's comedy for sure.

[Ish]

Can he do that?

[Joe Budden]

I don't know.

[Ish]

Probably depend on who named it.

[Joe Budden]

Driver truck came with a B.

[Parks]

All they overseas. These us kind of bad college.

[Ish]

I Made her leave a frat but.

[Parks]

My brother gave the a pass Trapping.

[Ish]

In the studio I'm glad break a.

[Parks]

B just to get the trash I was taught to tell to leave I go birch and nail for the fleas Pour him at a time like a she I've been on a boat screaming ski St Loren they bring it to.

[Joe Budden]

The be she was fortunate key in.

[Parks]

Middle east she snouted off the key.

[Joe Budden]

Got a screaming IP the key I.

[Parks]

Can'T stand us Put your mans up this is hard. Yeah, it is.

[Corey]

This is hard. It's hard.

[Joe Budden]

This is hard. All right, all right. I want your future hey, oh, talk to these hey say, gang, hope it.

[Parks]

Don'T think like syrup Elevator pad at the CRE Shopping bags all on the floor Never seen me twice for the.

[Joe Budden]

Home oh, he just reminded me of when I was humbled. He just reminded me when.

[Corey]

I sure will do that, won't he?

[Joe Budden]

No, he just reminded me we was in Costa Rica catching a vibe.

[Parks]

Here goes.

[Joe Budden]

Stupid ass Cory. Hey, y'all see that boat out there with the helicopter landing?

[Corey]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

That's Bernardo. Bernardo. Whatever.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, oh, Salma's husband. No, different billion.

[Corey]

This was like a three story mansion.

[Joe Budden]

150 million dollar yacht with a hell of a comforter pad. We could. We saw that landing taking off land.

[Ish]

He was dropping people off.

[Joe Budden]

It's like, all right, we got to get out of here. It's time to go.

[Parks]

Backyard by the ocean driveway look like a car show 350 million on the go 50 birds, a dog on my wrist.

[Corey]

Future is great, man.

[Joe Budden]

He's great. He's.

[Parks]

Look, I might.

[Joe Budden]

Might get 80, might.

[Parks]

Get 80 a turn.

[Joe Budden]

He's buck now.

[Parks]

Cocaine.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, you pay Ice yet?

[Parks]

Yeah. Why you in my pocket?

[Ish]

He said yes.

[Joe Budden]

He did. You did. All right, good.

[Parks]

Why you in my pockets?

[Joe Budden]

Oh, you're my man.

[Parks]

So you care if I pay money out my pocket? Cause you're my man.

[Joe Budden]

Well, he's my man, too.

[Parks]

Oh, gotcha, gotcha. Not my 32 shots with the glitch talking Vicks then we talking Chris Micro meaning would have been friend aside ho hoes and Seline Kicking out the minions like a bean Push a button and make your mama greed Even though she.

[Joe Budden]

Working for a boss out the country Living like a boss Power Dynamics. She working, working for the boss. This song is great. Check out the rest of the album on your own time. I do see mixed reviews online. And I understand it. And I understand it. I like it.

[Parks]

Me too.

[Joe Budden]

I like it.

[Parks]

I like it too.

[Joe Budden]

But I like it.

[Parks]

I like it.

[Joe Budden]

So it ain't. I don't dislike it.

[Corey]

I think it's cool.

[Joe Budden]

I don't think it's as bad as it ain't trash.

[Parks]

I think it's been waiting to hate.

[Corey]

Saying, yeah, it ain't trash.

[Parks]

I do think that it ain't bad.

[Joe Budden]

In 2025. I hope we can bring back the fan.

[Parks]

Nope.

[Corey]

So I would also like to bring back, like, levels to the review.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Like, it doesn't have to be either amazing or trash. It can admit also being trash to most people now colloquially. So there's literally no. It's either either good or it's either.

[Parks]

A classic or trash.

[Corey]

Trash.

[Joe Budden]

I think.

[Ish]

I think this album is good.

[Corey]

It's not great, but it's a good album and that's okay.

[Joe Budden]

It's a good album.

[Parks]

Hey, look, it's better than his last album to me, and that's what I needed this to be.

[Ish]

These tracks you just played, are they. Are they exceptions or is this how I feel through the whole album?

[Joe Budden]

Listen, it go. It go.

[Parks]

It's.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, listen, listen.

[Parks]

It has a change of P. I'll give.

[Joe Budden]

I'll give you a quick. That was one and two. Here's three. I'm now playing off the phone. Oh, yeah. I didn't want to hear this. I skipped this. I can't hear this after what I just heard. Cooler.

[Corey]

It's the Glorilla shit.

[Joe Budden]

No, that's next one. Yeah, that's next. This is.

[Parks]

She cleaned him up too.

[Joe Budden]

I promise. Glorilla. Man, you rappers gonna have to be careful. Ask her to get on your joints.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Come on. It's hard.

[Parks]

I don't care to have these women in my business, but I like your energy. Couple probably feel like me cause they can't with me. You ain't getting money. You nothing.

[Joe Budden]

And that stuck with Glorilla isn't like Antarctica. Come on, come on, buddy.

[Parks]

When they made you.

[Ish]

That'S why I.

[Joe Budden]

Used to tell these yo, they stop making bad when they made you. Respectfully, I'm. Hold up, hold up. Here we go.

[Ish]

Baby, let me talk my hey, my ex say y'all be on them I'm genuinely popping all my ops still broke ain't that bad A.

[Joe Budden]

I don't do no young My youngest.

[Ish]

Ho like 36 with the Dicky must don't think that I'm a.

[Joe Budden]

They did not stop making good dick.

[Ish]

When they made choice Be lucky that I like you cuz these getting ignored but don't play with me I get you like One to four. I don't think about you hoes. I just think kind of sell.

[Joe Budden]

A big man ain't begging on stay.

[Ish]

I'm quick to let them leave. Yeah, it's a million more bad, but ain't none of them me.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, Glorilla is the current future I would pay for right now. Same. That's the one.

[Parks]

Yep.

[Joe Budden]

I can't think of another one.

[Parks]

I still pay for a 21 feature.

[Joe Budden]

I would holler at me and try get it done for free. Well, I'm just saying, if I'm saying glow, I don't have a relationship with somebody that could send it to me. I'm paying her to get that verse. Yeah, for sure. And it's a single.

[Parks]

Oh, for sure.

[Ish]

It's definitely a single.

[Parks]

Lead single.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. No. Shout out, little baby. Shout out to Gloria. Absolutely love what you're doing. Phenomenal year last year. Year Phenomenal year Last year they say ICE Spice sold 4.8 thousand copies first week.

[Corey]

I know she dropped.

[Joe Budden]

Of that. Of that. I'm just a girl deluxe.

[Corey]

Ah, okay.

[Joe Budden]

While I have y'all here, is I'm just a girl counterproductive to the women empowerment movement?

[Corey]

I think it is. I. I often clap back and say, no, you're a grown woman.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Some of them don't support the woman empowerment movement. That's really what it means.

[Corey]

Well, they do when it's convenient.

[Joe Budden]

All right.

[Corey]

In the workplace, yes. At home, no.

[Joe Budden]

That's the next hot and bother. Why you get quiet on the Drake topics? Not for real. That hot and bother out of here. Telling you, you just be stealing our sauce to forgive you.

[Ish]

So go shut the up.

[Joe Budden]

This is why I don't have an opinion. A Honda drank freestyle. All right, you guys been asking for. Here it is. What else, what else, what else, what else? Shout out to Lil Baby. Shout out to Drake. Shout out to LiAngelo Ball. Is there anything else in music that is super important or not important?

[Parks]

Not super important, but, well, super important to me. I want to shout out the Red man. Yo, I listened to the Muddy Waters 2 album. I didn't know what to expect because I haven't heard a new Redman album in years. And I like this shit. It's. I saw. I think it's like 32 tracks. I was like, oh, hip hop. I'm not about to listen in, like, 32.

[Joe Budden]

I was.

[Ish]

I.

[Parks]

With a large portion of this album.

[Melissa Ford]

32.

[Parks]

Gets in there, and it's not 32 songs. But you surprised me, so. Salute. And he had a crazy jersey Posse cut on there.

[Corey]

Just played it on the pod last week.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, okay.

[Parks]

I wasn't here.

[Ish]

Who's on the Jersey? Plus he could.

[Corey]

We released it to the public. You could have listened.

[Parks]

No, everybody from Jersey, minus Joe, like Rod digging.

[Ish]

Everybody.

[Parks]

Tretch Vin is on it. Tretch L from Artifacts is on it. Lady Luck, Nicky D, Shaq underground. Shaq, you the only. That ain't on it. I'm getting mad now.

[Ish]

They put Shaq on his call.

[Joe Budden]

You Sha Rap.

[Ish]

Shaq rap, Rap. I can see you a better rapper than Shaq is all I'm saying. I just wanted you to get the call too. That's all I'm saying. I love Sable. I. I.

[Joe Budden]

Shout out to red man, man.

[Corey]

Shout out to red man.

[Parks]

Everybody though. It was a great. It was a good part.

[Ish]

He went back.

[Joe Budden]

That's why you talking about.

[Parks]

I told you like, yo, that you. I thought you would have at least gotten the call.

[Ish]

I wanted you to get the call.

[Joe Budden]

You probably rest in peace, K. Slay. Anytime that called me to jump on the track with all 700 of them, I hung up on him.

[Ish]

You would have to say yes to this one.

[Joe Budden]

Maybe the Jersey card gets it done. But that's what I'm saying. Slay used to call like, yo, got this great idea. You and 900 people. Well, how many bars I get? Four. Get the off of my phone. I get four bars to clean up 900 people. That math ain't. That's girl math to me. That's not enough. I don't heat up to eight.

[Parks]

Had the be like.

[Joe Budden]

How many bars they got?

[Corey]

Everyone was five change.

[Joe Budden]

I need more than eight to clean up red and the other.

[Parks]

The girls ate.

[Corey]

They did.

[Joe Budden]

They did.

[Parks]

The women ate.

[Ish]

I'm guessing Lauren wasn't on it either, right?

[Corey]

No, no Fujis.

[Ish]

No Fujis. Okay.

[Parks]

They might have called her. She just ain't get to the studio.

[Ish]

She. She showed up just now.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Actually, speaking of Tretch, I want to give y'all the playlist of the DJ in Costa Rica. As we were waiting for New Year's Eve. We got some Tone loke and young MC.

[Corey]

A lot of Mr. Worldwide. Pit bull.

[Joe Budden]

Pit bull.

[Corey]

Flow rider.

[Joe Budden]

Flow rider. T Pain. Yeah, we got some ymca. YMCA for white people's electricity slide.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

It's fun to stay it up. And they was doing it.

[Ish]

You got it.

[Corey]

You got it.

[Parks]

You know what it is?

[Ish]

Mca.

[Joe Budden]

I don't remember the A. The A is this. Oh, yeah. Sir Mix a lot. Baby got back. Salt, Pepper, shoop.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Diamonds by Briana 1989, 1990s rap list.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God.

[Corey]

Some different version of the 40. What the is the.

[Parks]

They play coolio.

[Ish]

No. I bet you Shaggy made that list.

[Corey]

Shaggy? There might have been some Shaggy.

[Ish]

Shaggy usually makes that list they threw on.

[Joe Budden]

I thought of it because I didn't hear Sean Paul. I thought of it because they threw on some hip hop Hooray. None of the white people did like this side to side. Yeah, they did YMCA before they did.

[Parks]

How old was that?

[Corey]

Hey, there was like teenagers there.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, that's older people too, but.

[Corey]

Oh, the Cha Cha slide. They had some DM version of the Cha Cha slide that threw me off.

[Parks]

A little bit one time now, y'all.

[Corey]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

We didn't win.

[Corey]

I had some synthesizers in it. She was like, this is not how this goes.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, they up.

[Corey]

Everyone slid. So it worked.

[Ish]

Remember, you gotta learn to let your slide too.

[Parks]

Stallions.

[Ish]

Then learn that.

[Joe Budden]

You think Parks don't know electric slide?

[Ish]

He doesn't know the electric.

[Joe Budden]

He don't learn it.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, we talked about that.

[Ish]

Stay out of business.

[Joe Budden]

What happened? And it's just called you a. And don't do that again.

[Parks]

People. People dumb. Y people dumb.

[Joe Budden]

But don't do that again.

[Parks]

Stop.

[Ish]

We had parks so uncomfortable people.

[Corey]

Yeah, you guys were.

[Joe Budden]

No, y'all had me so uncomfortable. Y'all didn't have parks. Parks said I'm white, y'all. Like I. I was home like you guys. You guys, please. I don't give a he another one.

[Ish]

He said.

[Joe Budden]

What was I saying? What was I about to say? Let me not erase these notes. This is important. I miss Ray Sherman a little bit. I have this written down. Just cuz it was their anniversary. It was their 10 year anniversary the.

[Parks]

Other day they put out recently was it wasn't. Yeah, I don't think still get the support like that.

[Corey]

Yeah, no one put no money behind it or something like race women is.

[Parks]

Always getting to listen. They drop an album. I'm rushing to listen.

[Joe Budden]

I have a question here. That's off of music. It's not music related at all. But I did want to ask you guys, if anybody who have you been honored to share your time on earth with?

[Corey]

Greg Popovich.

[Joe Budden]

He's one for me. Kobe's another one for me. Kobe Clark. Clark Kent. D.J. clark Kent. I thought about this because while they was playing all of these white people slaps in Costa Rica New Year's Eve. I thought about D Nice and for me to purchase D. Nice's single at 9 years old and then him go on to be one of the biggest DJs in the world and be so supportive and be such a good human.

[Parks]

Just a nice guy, a nice person.

[Joe Budden]

And just be in the mix. I seen D Nice when he was going through a divorce. I seen seen D. Nice when he was moving around, like, toy or someone.

[Corey]

Was playing some D Nice set list while we were out there.

[Joe Budden]

D Nice. Gonna come on. Yeah, he's gonna come on all members of the Locks for me.

[Corey]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

All men. Just. Just men of honor. Total men of honor. I mean, I could. My list goes on and on. I'd love to hear if there's anybody on. You guys's just musicians. No. Anybody that you have been honored. Honored to share Earth with. We don't listen. Time is time. This life is fragile. It comes and goes. Stuart Scott. Good one. Great one. Rest in peace. Rest in peace. To the goat.

[Melissa Ford]

Viola Davis.

[Parks]

Wow.

[Ish]

Cricket.

[Joe Budden]

Cricket. No, no, she's on my list, too.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, okay.

[Joe Budden]

But my list is long. Like, I'd be honored at just seeing greatness.

[Melissa Ford]

Same. Yeah, same.

[Ish]

I be thinking about the great. It's like when we get to see it up close, it's like, Kobe would be one for me.

[Joe Budden]

Kobe.

[Ish]

You know, I grew up with him. So, like, seeing that Questlove. Same thing. Like, just geniuses who we also got to see kind of up close and watch the genius develop and, like, bloom. That shit for me is amazing.

[Joe Budden]

Shout out to Questlove. I think he's doing his birthday. His birthday movie tradition. Shit. I think Silence of the Lands is on one of them. There's a movie on there I wanted to see.

[Ish]

He's. Did I get kicked off the list? Oh, I made it.

[Joe Budden]

The last.

[Ish]

I've always made shit. I didn't go quite as Philly as we thought. Oh, that would be hell.

[Parks]

Your camera right there, man.

[Joe Budden]

Sorry, my bad.

[Ish]

I missed the last two. I'm like, did I get taken off the list?

[Joe Budden]

My bad, my bad. Mark, you could be my plus one.

[Ish]

Oh, no.

[Joe Budden]

He's in it.

[Ish]

He's in it.

[Joe Budden]

Okay. You feel better now?

[Ish]

A little bit.

[Parks]

Mark a hater on the low. Take all spare time.

[Ish]

Not on the low.

[Joe Budden]

No, he's a hater.

[Parks]

Not on a lower.

[Corey]

People are haters.

[Joe Budden]

Dr. Umar, I see you with Simba.

[Corey]

I see that, too.

[Ish]

I see that video.

[Joe Budden]

Dr. Umar is in Africa with Simba.

[Corey]

Salute.

[Joe Budden]

Now, I had a rough month, so we did have to reschedule Umar and Podsgiving. But he is out there as a friend of the show with friend of the show. Simba. Not trying Or Simba.

[Corey]

Salute.

[Joe Budden]

I want to know if simba is sucking Dr. Umar's dick. I know Simba. I don't give a. What y'all talking about. Listen, we know Power done is not like that. Stop. Don't do that.

[Parks]

I wasn't even talk. I'm just talking.

[Joe Budden]

Thank God.

[Parks]

No, we know how Simba think.

[Joe Budden]

We know Simba. There we go. Help me out.

[Parks]

I said we know.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, dog, help me out. Then I. I did it. You never been to Army. Yo, anybody out there lying on is it wasn't in on View. Nigga, I have been in Onvue that one time when we was doing the showers.

[Parks]

It was three times.

[Joe Budden]

We was doing the show Herbs and.

[Parks]

Then I've been there with my girl for dinner outside in the pods in the winter.

[Ish]

Nice. Ish.

[Parks]

You got the pods outside in the winter where you could look at the view.

[Joe Budden]

Back in the day when I used to cheat at Arm View, I would get caught every time. You can't do that. My girl called me. Right at the table with this bitch. Yo, are you. You not brave enough to be at home view with such and such, sending me pictures? I'm out of here. And all of you, when you got a. When you. When you cheating back in the day and you try to go find a quiet corner to talk. The corner is a little far enough.

[Corey]

It is.

[Joe Budden]

It's no longer in the cool area. You gotta take a run. Here go your girl. Why you out of breath? Yeah, I'm here. I don't like when your girl know your breathing pattern.

[Parks]

She called you while you was there.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, please. Yes.

[Parks]

You said no, I was just cleaning up. She said clean it up.

[Ish]

Sure.

[Corey]

Business meeting.

[Joe Budden]

I'll stop cheating the cheating game change and I'm in love. But the cheating game changed. This shit different out here. You gotta have the spirit.

[Corey]

You gotta thank God for cameras. And also fuck them.

[Ish]

Camera worse.

[Corey]

Yeah. Really?

[Joe Budden]

I love you, baby. I was living wrong. I grew.

[Parks]

How you feeling, Joe?

[Joe Budden]

No.

[Corey]

About what?

[Joe Budden]

Catch Steak.

[Parks]

Catch Steak man.

[Joe Budden]

Permanently closed.

[Melissa Ford]

No, that's devastating.

[Joe Budden]

Catch Steak is permanently closed.

[Corey]

Oh, your blood pressure about to be good money.

[Joe Budden]

New York and la.

[Corey]

Oh, really?

[Melissa Ford]

That's crazy.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Parks]

You know, they the first of many. They closed LA last month and then a couple days ago, just as of now.

[Joe Budden]

Damn. Both Catch Steak in New York and Los Angeles have been exceptionally successful, each generating over 18 million in annual revenue. Revenue.

[Parks]

Revenue ain't profit.

[Ish]

That seems really low.

[Joe Budden]

How? Yeah, it seems a little low for me. However, their close proximity to our flagship Catch restaurants has split the business. By consolidating these locations, we can deliver a unified and elevated experience that builds on the best of both concepts. To support this transformation, we're investing $6 million to renovate and enhance both flagship locations, creating spaces that set new standards for guests and staff experiences. This pivotal move follows the successful openings of Catch Miami Beach. I gotta get back to Miami. I know.

[Corey]

For dinner.

[Joe Budden]

And Dallas in 2020 for Dallas is another one. That's another. I can't. I'm barred from that. I can't go to Dallas. Do niggas know that Dallas is on.

[Parks]

The niggas know.

[Joe Budden]

All right. Anyway. And Dallas in 2024, as well as the launch of the Corner store, already one of the most talked about restaurants in America. Looking ahead to 2025, we have several openings in progress, including a Mediterranean dining experience in soho. We're energized by what's ahead and look forward to sharing the next chapter of Catch hospitality group with you.

[Parks]

I think that makes a ton of business sense.

[Joe Budden]

I am so depressed. I don't give a.

[Ish]

Why. I think Catch is so much better than Catch Steak.

[Joe Budden]

It wasn't.

[Ish]

I don't eat steak either, so.

[Parks]

But I don't eat steak like that, so it didn't do it for me.

[Melissa Ford]

But it was amazing.

[Parks]

But vibe wise, I Stepping on your own date. You're dope. You stepping on your own dope.

[Melissa Ford]

Well, then why open it so close? Ego, stupid.

[Parks]

It's ego.

[Melissa Ford]

Fucking take it up and take it midtown. So there's not like across the street from the Flagship, I think.

[Joe Budden]

I think regular Catch was overdone, especially. Especially in New York.

[Melissa Ford]

In la too.

[Parks]

When you say overdone, what do you mean?

[Melissa Ford]

Just.

[Joe Budden]

Ran. Ran through.

[Parks]

And then Catch State. That ran through too.

[Melissa Ford]

We weren't done yet.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, we weren't done running through.

[Parks]

You was eating it three times a week at one point.

[Joe Budden]

Not three times, but. But a lot.

[Parks]

They a tell you nothing.

[Ish]

They ain't.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, Joe, man, I'm mad I didn't get a email. I feel for some of them cool people that I was fly with that worked over there. It's like, God damn, what's our girl name? Ashley.

[Ish]

Think so. Forgot.

[Joe Budden]

But you know what I'm talking about. I do, right?

[Ish]

It's my peoples.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, speak up. Don't get quiet.

[Parks]

You don't know your people name.

[Ish]

I do know.

[Joe Budden]

Don't get quiet though.

[Ish]

I'm just saying, like, you know, we'll talk later. No, no, no, no. I told you about doing that. We're not talking about. We'll talk later.

[Joe Budden]

I'll go TMZ. We gonna talk.

[Ish]

No. Why you keep doing that? YouTube stop.

[Joe Budden]

I'm really saddened by this. Not as much as I would be if we didn't go out with a bang for my birthday party. I had a blast at my birthday party.

[Parks]

It was amazing.

[Joe Budden]

But damn, I wouldn't have minded to go back a little last time. Wagu a little last little sushi.

[Ish]

Ro Catch roll. I didn't go to Catch restaurant. I want to catch date. But what's the difference between the two?

[Joe Budden]

One, one is seafood, one is.

[Parks]

One was more seafood oriented and the.

[Joe Budden]

Other one regular catch of seafood.

[Ish]

Thank you.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Ish]

Thank you. Yeah, Catch it down for me.

[Joe Budden]

I sent me that article, man, I wanted to kill him.

[Ish]

Damn.

[Parks]

I thought you knew. I was just like, damn. Yo, my condolences. Now we just want to bring that menu over here.

[Ish]

I hope. I hope so. Nobody eat regular cat to regular catch. That's what I'm saying. You going to get the same options.

[Joe Budden]

I don't think that's.

[Ish]

Unless it's a vibe. They just. They pretty much said in the press release they going to consolidate it for me. It's a vibe thing. That's why I was asking if the vibe is better at Catch Stick. I only been to Catch Stick.

[Joe Budden]

Much better.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

It was much better at Ambiance. It was nice.

[Corey]

It was nice.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah.

[Ish]

But I didn't go to Catch.

[Joe Budden]

Are y'all Nobu people?

[Ish]

Yeah, I do know, boo.

[Parks]

Dad I.

[Joe Budden]

Or is Noble overrated to y'all?

[Melissa Ford]

No, it's a staple, especially the one on 57.

[Ish]

Noble 57 is my spot, but I.

[Parks]

Think a lot of that when you. What are you talking about? Overrated. Food wise or period?

[Joe Budden]

Whatever. Wise.

[Parks]

See, the food is just. The food is good. It ain't great, but the ambiance is good. So a lot of times when you go to these places, you not necessarily even going there for the food.

[Ish]

I some. I some lobster tacos up at no group 57.

[Parks]

It's just good.

[Ish]

Good. It's good. It's good.

[Parks]

You know what I'm saying?

[Ish]

Yo, I have taken some first dates to Nobu 57.

[Joe Budden]

Right? The power dynamics shine over there.

[Ish]

It's the game changing look in Nobu Lit.

[Parks]

You go in there because of the what?

[Ish]

The lobster tacos.

[Joe Budden]

I bet that Nobu over there. What's that? Fly Beach. Delicious.

[Ish]

Not.

[Joe Budden]

Not in la. What's the good Fancy. Fancy fancy beach?

[Melissa Ford]

Malibu.

[Joe Budden]

Malibu. That nou over there.

[Melissa Ford]

Sexy.

[Joe Budden]

Yes. I'm in the one over here.

[Ish]

This is what. But I don't. Like, sometimes they starting to feel thirsty. Like I was at Nobu, maybe. Oh, I know when it was.

[Joe Budden]

It was a long time ago, years ago.

[Ish]

Let me say this September, I was with my wife. So. No, it was like three months ago.

[Corey]

There you go.

[Parks]

Three single, walking, noble. You're having a good night.

[Ish]

That's true. But everybody in there looked like they was, you know. You know, like when you walk to a mall in Atlanta right now, everybody looks at the auditioning facility, something, everybody feels like, that's New York City, but that's no boo. Really feels like that now.

[Joe Budden]

Y'all still go to the mall in Atlanta?

[Ish]

No, I. I don't, but I did. Like, last time I went, I was like, I'm never coming here again. I was at. I was at Lennox Mall, like, in like, 2015.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, he's in 2015.

[Joe Budden]

2015.

[Ish]

And I was like, I'm never walking in this business.

[Parks]

I was in there last year. It was still.

[Joe Budden]

You was in there last year copping some. What you. What you got? My. What you got? What you got up out there?

[Parks]

Remember, I was in the mall. You called me. I should pick you up. The Gucci sneakers.

[Joe Budden]

Invest Fest. See, you got to go back to Invest Fest, too. Don't do that.

[Parks]

I was in the mall.

[Ish]

Are you going back Ish.

[Parks]

What you mean?

[Ish]

Are you going back to Invest Fest?

[Joe Budden]

Go to Invest Fest again to support. You didn't go last year. You didn't go last year.

[Parks]

I didn't go last year, but go. They're my. I support them and everything.

[Joe Budden]

They just go, yo. Sure.

[Ish]

Huh? You sure you support them?

[Parks]

So if they come to New York, you going to go?

[Joe Budden]

If they come where? I told them I go. Wait. And Best Fest in New York.

[Parks]

No, just New York, period.

[Joe Budden]

I told him I might speak at that. They pressed me when I went to speak at Steve Stout's.

[Parks]

You don't say.

[Joe Budden]

United Masters gig, they pressed me. So, yeah, if they come to New York, I'll go speak at the Jamit Center. Yeah, no, they doing. I think they do Garden. The Garden. Hulu Theater. The Garden.

[Parks]

The Hulu Theater. But none of my. But yeah, Linux ain't it. That is why I'm scared of Atlanta. My. They got metal detectors in Neiman Marcus.

[Ish]

They got metal detectors now.

[Parks]

What, they have shootouts? Well, it's open, Carry.

[Ish]

That's crazy. Yeah, definitely.

[Parks]

You got to think about where you at. You shooting out Neiman? That's correct. It's different on Site mean on site, Evidently.

[Joe Budden]

I can't believe that. Well, I can believe it.

[Parks]

Rest in peace to Neiman Marcus.

[Ish]

Well, they got bought out by sex is buying them sex on everything they done.

[Joe Budden]

Did they say they're closing?

[Parks]

They got bought out. They done.

[Corey]

That doesn't mean they're done.

[Joe Budden]

They went back at that.

[Ish]

They might keep the same name.

[Joe Budden]

They were closing.

[Ish]

Sometimes they keep the same.

[Corey]

They didn't close Bergdorf or any other shit they own.

[Parks]

It just was last week. Saxa gobbled them up.

[Joe Budden]

Well, I ain't shopping no more. No way. So I'm chilling. I know I'm on my Steve Jobs. I'm gonna pop my Parks T shirt and some jeans.

[Parks]

We know.

[Joe Budden]

So full of dog.

[Ish]

It's cool, though.

[Joe Budden]

No, for real. There's a few things I want to do less than 20, 25. Shopping is one, strip club is two. Red meat is three. Yeah, I think that's my top three. How about you guys? I didn't get a chance to hear y'all any New Year's resolutions or anything. You plan on doing different for the year for me. Anybody?

[Melissa Ford]

Nothing.

[Ish]

Sugar and work?

[Joe Budden]

No, Absolutely nothing.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm fucking awesome. Yeah. Like, I'm just gonna stay the course. That's it.

[Ish]

Respect. I gotta exercise more. You gotta just stay respected. Some salute.

[Joe Budden]

Respect.

[Corey]

Respect.

[Ish]

When make claims. You gotta respect that respect.

[Joe Budden]

Y'all are idiots.

[Ish]

Be more healthy for 2025. Mother going ozempic. I'm telling you.

[Joe Budden]

Ish.

[Parks]

That's gonna make your health better.

[Ish]

I don't give a. I'm going on it.

[Parks]

I was just asking.

[Ish]

Yeah, next week.

[Melissa Ford]

Lower his A1C.

[Ish]

Thank you, man.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Buster just lost like £70 or some shit, right?

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

You got masking probably naturally too, if you. If you.

[Ish]

We should run or something too. I'm trying to get back. I'm trying to get my heart rate up on the track. You might try to outdo me and running. Nah, man.

[Parks]

Running is the.

[Ish]

I'm not. I'm not. There's a black man run group. We should do it. Seriously. Everybody here. I think it'll be dope.

[Joe Budden]

How much if I do run? I'm not running. Running with the black men run group. What we running for?

[Parks]

That's like. It's like Africa. You about to turn the air. You about to make it colder. He thought he was turning. He's making it cooler. Just running for no reason. To lose.

[Ish]

To not die and build up your cardio vascular exercise.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah.

[Parks]

That one is your time, man. That one is your time.

[Ish]

Man, that sound black.

[Melissa Ford]

Is it just guys?

[Parks]

Yeah, no, no, I know my homegirls had a black woman run to group.

[Ish]

I know a good black woman run group.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, for sure.

[Ish]

So we gotta run like Central park.

[Joe Budden]

And shit like that.

[Ish]

I haven't joined the group yet, but they. They run. No, they run in Jersey. They run in Jersey? Yeah. It's worth it, man.

[Parks]

No, listen, running is dope. Running is therapeutic, all of that.

[Corey]

Yeah, it should have every testosterone though. Be careful.

[Parks]

It will.

[Corey]

We learned.

[Ish]

Your stopped working take muscle mass. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Unless he ranish.

[Parks]

It's been over up years. But I used to run every day. Like literally every.

[Ish]

Like run from.

[Parks]

His ass.

[Ish]

Chasing you up the block every time up the same strip.

[Parks]

There you go. Get him.

[Ish]

There you go. There you go. No, that's dope.

[Joe Budden]

Is.

[Ish]

But seriously, 20, 25. That's the year, man. I'm trying to run. Or we'll play ball. I know we said we gonna hoop, but like, I'm gonna get on the break.

[Parks]

That is different.

[Ish]

Get your heart rate up every day.

[Joe Budden]

Glad you said that. Somebody I know wants to speak to you. Yeah, sorry. Oh, boy.

[Ish]

Who's.

[Parks]

I haven't the slightest idea.

[Joe Budden]

Actually, he want to speak to Ish and Corey too. Letting this nigga sit here and talk like that.

[Ish]

Yo, he stayed with a testimonial.

[Parks]

I don't know.

[Joe Budden]

You know what it is?

[Ish]

Some nigga tied up in a basement. Man, I was good at basketball, wasn't I?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, Pop. It's. It's Joe. It's Joe Button. It's Joe Button from the Joe Button podcast. What's going on? I got this sucker in front of me right here. I got. I got a sweet vic in front of me right here. And I told Corey and is that you was mad that they let this new talk like that about me and you, so. Especially Cory boy, Especially Corey, you know, because Corey could play a little bit. Ish was a bum, so he. He was ready like that, you know? Do you have anything to say to. To Mark about his remarks regarding you and I on the spade table? Well, first of all, I can tell he's not a real spade player because you're only as good as your partner. So I don't care how great he think he is. I happen to have the best partner in the world. So for that reason alone, he can't win.

[Ish]

Y'all gonna have this just the two of us moment.

[Joe Budden]

That's my man right there. I'm going try to get a date. I'm going try to get a date from this guy.

[Ish]

I hope it's before I die, sir. You picked the net. You picked the time and the place. It won't be a problem.

[Parks]

You're right.

[Ish]

You only as good as your partner. I'm like LeBron. Every city he go to, he win a chip. That's me. I'll take anybody in this room right now and beat both of y'all. With all due respect, Pop, I got.

[Joe Budden]

It here on the radio. So he could say that stupid shit.

[Ish]

You know what I mean?

[Parks]

That don't sound good.

[Joe Budden]

He sounds stupid. He sound real stupid. Don't worry. We gonna see him on the weekend. We gonna see him on the weekend. I'm ready.

[Ish]

I'm ready.

[Joe Budden]

I'm ready to play outside right now in the snow.

[Ish]

I'm with you.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, no, hey, hey, Pop. I'mma set it up, man. I'll talk to you later. All right?

[Parks]

Make it happen, man.

[Joe Budden]

All right.

[Ish]

Can we actually set up? Set it up, bro. He just be talking, man. Setting up gyms and spades.

[Melissa Ford]

That basketball never happened, right?

[Parks]

Mac and cheese never happened.

[Melissa Ford]

That's hate. Don't throw me.

[Ish]

Leave her alone.

[Parks]

I'm just saying things.

[Ish]

Were we really looking forward to Mac and cheese from Mel?

[Melissa Ford]

That's deflection.

[Ish]

No, wait, wait, wait. Look at her nails. You think she could cook?

[Melissa Ford]

Didn't they throw you into the whole Mac and cheese conversation?

[Ish]

I don't eat Mac and cheese.

[Joe Budden]

So I was. I was down with Mel came in here and lied and said she went. She brought some Mac and cheese somewhere else. She was on Instagram. Hey, I made this. All you see all this woman do is lie.

[Ish]

But she gets away with it. She can do it. She can pull it off.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God. He let Mel cook, man. Yeah, no, but she said if we take away the power dynamics, we taking away pretty privilege.

[Ish]

Oh, hell yeah. Let's go, Mark.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, cool.

[Ish]

Oh, but Mel is talented beyond her looks.

[Joe Budden]

Well, you are good, Janitor.

[Corey]

You know, stop. You don't stop.

[Joe Budden]

Clean up Al3.3. Yo, Mark Stumb caught his mouth like, whoa, whoa, whoa. N. Mark is rookie the year. Mark is rookie of the year. Yo, you can't jam him up. Can't jam him up. I don't think I have too much more that I need to get off on this.

[Ish]

They booed the out of Hulk Hogan.

[Joe Budden]

They booed.

[Ish]

Boo. Why they. They. I felt so bad. He was limping.

[Parks]

His.

[Ish]

His limped outside. I'm like, please don't. They booed the out that son like what the is going on?

[Parks]

They tried to fix it, right?

[Ish]

Yeah, they tried to fix it. You talk about they put. They pulled that out of the building, son.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

I ain't never seen nothing like that. And it look good on from shout out to WWE on the Netflix deal.

[Joe Budden]

It look.

[Ish]

It looks amazing. It looks amazing. That whole Netflix. I don't know what's going on.

[Joe Budden]

As did the football game.

[Parks]

Football game.

[Ish]

Netflix is football game look really good.

[Joe Budden]

I watched that Beyonce bowl again. E. We'll talk on Patreon. Man.

[Ish]

Don't stop with please.

[Parks]

They going crazy.

[Joe Budden]

They pull up E family. Stop.

[Ish]

Don't start. They pull up E's mom and stuff, man.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't see none of that. But stop.

[Ish]

Don't bring it back up.

[Joe Budden]

Patreon. I'm going talk. I watched the Beyonce bowl again. You stand with E. Yeah.

[Ish]

I don't think he said I don't agree. Please. I got Beyonce in my top five. Five.

[Joe Budden]

But you don't stand with it.

[Ish]

No.

[Parks]

What I'm saying.

[Ish]

I don't think number six is crazy. I don't think he's wrong. Like I would put Beyonce above Chris Brown, but I don't think it's crazy to have. But then it found tweets where he had Beyonce in his top five. Then he saw Chris Brown perform again and said, you know what? This changed. Chris Brown killed it.

[Joe Budden]

He should watch the Beyonce bowl again.

[Parks]

He also said I could put some other names in there. And I kept trying to get him. Who are these names?

[Ish]

Patti LaBelle.

[Joe Budden]

Oh.

[Parks]

Oh my.

[Joe Budden]

That's why we talking about you. Yeah.

[Parks]

You ain't even here. Right.

[Joe Budden]

You had your time to shine on last episode. You get a bunch of off.

[Ish]

But it's not. You think it's crazy to put James Brown.

[Joe Budden]

No, no.

[Ish]

That's what I'm saying.

[Parks]

But then he started saying Bruno Mars and some other too.

[Joe Budden]

It's crazy to put Chris Brown in front of Beyonce.

[Ish]

I think so too.

[Joe Budden]

It is really?

[Ish]

That's the only one that I disagree with as follow up performance wise.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Ish]

Yeah. I think Beyonce does the thing that.

[Joe Budden]

Your people and I'm not saying. Hold up. I want to clarify myself cuz I'm a huge Chris Brown fan.

[Parks]

He not that far.

[Joe Budden]

Chris Brown, because of out of the studio incidents will never have the opportunity to make his performance look like that. So it's not that I don't think.

[Parks]

He'S capable of and I think they know it and they purposely.

[Joe Budden]

We've never seen it. We. I've never seen. I've never seen it. I've never seen it. I've never seen it. And to correct you, we. I have seen Chris. I'm not Chris Brown. Beyonce, perform. Perform with the bare minimum and go absolutely crazy, but you don't have a mic, so I don't think that's fair.

[Melissa Ford]

Can we also just acknowledge the fact that she does her entire stage, you know, presentation in high heels?

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

Can we just acknowledge that it's singing?

[Joe Budden]

Yes. The thing that blew me away on the rewatch of the Beyonce bowl, of course, was the performance. But she killed the vocals. Laying on her back, being carried. She killed the highs. She especially killed the lows, which is where you could hear people that could sing it up when they try to, you know. You know about all that vocal control. So we'll talk later. But her vocal, her. The way she controls that. Yeah, no, Yeah. I can't. I can't. Just can't. And, like, she's there and Hulk Hogan for real. That's a moment. That's something I never thought I would say in my life.

[Ish]

Me too.

[Joe Budden]

I agree with it because I grew up on Hulk Hogan.

[Parks]

But some of the whites will show you who they are when you give them a couple decades.

[Ish]

You never thought you were saying.

[Joe Budden]

Even when he said. Even when he said nigga. The first time. I wasn't all the way mad at him.

[Ish]

That's what I was telling people.

[Parks]

Wasn't mad at the Whites to show you.

[Joe Budden]

Nah. He went a little crazier. He went crazier than that first nigga.

[Parks]

That's a couple. They showed you who they are.

[Joe Budden]

The Jerry Springer dog came out today on Netflix.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

Can't wait to watch it.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

All I had was Netflix in the hotel. It kept showing me what was coming soon.

[Ish]

Did you watch Coming Tuesday? Did you watch Squid Games season two?

[Parks]

I have not.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Ish]

What do you think, Joe?

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Parks]

It's not one.

[Ish]

Well, we don't know.

[Corey]

We don't really.

[Joe Budden]

It's not going to be one.

[Corey]

It ended on a cliffhanger.

[Parks]

But I. Like I'm saying, but season one was revolutionary.

[Corey]

Season three is coming out, I guess this year. So sometime.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Corey]

Someone said maybe as soon as February. I don't know if that's true, but it was half a season.

[Ish]

Yes. But what I'm saying is that I saw so much negative reviews on it, but it wasn't as bad as they.

[Parks]

Made it seem by episode four.

[Joe Budden]

That's number four on my list. 2025. I want to read less of what the Internet has to Say yes.

[Ish]

I agree with that.

[Joe Budden]

The Internet be wrong sometimes it can.

[Ish]

Sway you from watching it.

[Joe Budden]

Like, oh, they had me thinking that Squid Games 2 was a about to be horrible. I watched it. I didn't feel like that at all. And I wasn't mad at the cliffhanger like they was.

[Ish]

I wasn't.

[Joe Budden]

Especially when it said next season for the finale, 2025. I'm like, oh, that's now, dog.

[Parks]

You got to watch the Jackal. I'm telling you is.

[Joe Budden]

Don't interrupt our squid game review. The Jack with the jack Squid game. Where is it?

[Parks]

Watch.

[Ish]

Peacock.

[Melissa Ford]

Peacock, watch.

[Parks]

All right, we came in here talking jackal.

[Joe Budden]

I'll get to cross. I'll get to. There's a few that y'all eliminated, too. The guy who plays Shut the up.

[Parks]

What's wrong?

[Ish]

Are y'all crazy?

[Parks]

Sorry, go ahead.

[Joe Budden]

Squid Game. Or as I've renamed it, Squid Non Games.

[Parks]

You ain't play many games.

[Joe Budden]

The first Squid game was revolutionary because those games were amazing. Those games were like you sitting home like, oh, if I had to do that, those games were top of the notch. Whoever created those or put that together killed it. This one seven episodes. The first game was the same game as the last game, which was red light, green light. I'm not mad at that. As far as I go, they killed that. Then it was only two games after that. And those two games, I was sitting home like, oh, I would kill this. Like, they weren't groundbreaking games to me. One was, you tie y'all. Tie the five of y'all up together. You go around in the big circle and you hop around, around, and you have to do, like a squid game appetizer. Small, small games. Spin the. Spin the thingamajiggy. The game that they initiate you on where they slap the. Whatever they call it out there. And then the next game was hit.

[Corey]

The rock with the rock.

[Joe Budden]

The next game was all us get in a merry go round and whatever number they say, that's how many people we have to go pull in the room. I like how they made it interesting. I like how they. I see how that could be tough. If it's all of us here and the niggas scream three, then we gotta fight about which three of us to go. But I'm gonna pull two of y'all in the room with me. I just didn't think that was the toughest of games to play. So, yeah, Squid Non Games for me, I hated those games. Did the games. I hated the games. I wanna shout out to Thanos Yo.

[Corey]

Tanos is a annoying.

[Parks]

Yo.

[Joe Budden]

Don't do that. Don't do that. Thanos was the rap Korean rapper guy.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

He was giving them bars in there, and he got a little crew together and he tried to thug some out.

[Corey]

Popped up on Adderall or some.

[Parks]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I want to shout out to Thanos. I want to shout out to the transgender girl. She was crazy.

[Corey]

When she hit the fan, she was.

[Joe Budden]

She was absolutely fire. I liked Squid game's character development.

[Ish]

That's true.

[Joe Budden]

And I like that whoever loses the game, it'd be a bunch of people that they wasn't introducing us to anyway.

[Corey]

That's a fact.

[Ish]

That's a band. I mean, he didn't lose the game, but.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

What happened to him?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, well, they're gonna kill a few people that they made you like. But for the most part, when all these niggas like, I don't care about him.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Move y'all wasn't teaching me about him. Him. Anyway. I like the. I like the. I like their.

[Corey]

I knew homie with the boat was shady, man.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He.

[Ish]

I like that.

[Joe Budden]

He look shady, cuz you can find this island. He wasn't trying to find the island at all. So dude on the boat is shady. I like how contestant 001 and the last one that's crazy. Was the older dude and how 001 this time was homie's brother.

[Ish]

How did you feel about 456 entering back the game?

[Joe Budden]

Did you think that that was noble? Yeah. To you? No noble of him. Got it.

[Ish]

So you like that part?

[Joe Budden]

Not originally, but once he went in there running his b. Oh, I'm trying.

[Ish]

To save all my. I'm trying to get you out of here. Stand still. No, do it.

[Joe Budden]

Do it right. He in there trying to save their life. Life, and they turned on him. How you know the rules to the game? We you up.

[Parks]

Meanwhile, 01 is the op.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Yeah. That was.

[Parks]

That was crazy.

[Joe Budden]

I love when the guards get. I liked in. In the first season how when it was time when they wanted y'all to kill each other, they gave y'all knives, like, to eat the steak or whatever. And like, oh, we got knives about to kill these. This time they gave you forks when it was time to get busy. So it was like, okay, they. They about to fight.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know how when everybody is fighting, the people hiding under the beds survived. Like, hey, what about that?

[Ish]

That put. That didn't seem hard on top of the bed. That let the girl that he like die.

[Joe Budden]

He's a.

[Corey]

He was a for that.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, no, he doing a bottle down.

[Ish]

And then watch it.

[Joe Budden]

And I just love how Squid games I. You know what? I'mma sound shady right now cuz I don't be watching all of the British shows with all of these accents and dubs. Squid Game is the only show I watch where I like these corny voiceovers.

[Corey]

Oh, it's horrible.

[Joe Budden]

But it's so bad that it's a part of the show.

[Corey]

Well, cuz it goes back to our childhood watching the kung fu flicks.

[Parks]

I like Money Heist. Y'all ain't like Money Heist.

[Joe Budden]

I like money.

[Parks]

I like Money Heist. But I like the voiceover shit they did on Money Heist.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, but Squid Game is way spoofier.

[Corey]

Yeah, it is.

[Joe Budden]

They lead into that. Money Heist did a good job.

[Corey]

They lead into that shit.

[Joe Budden]

Squid Game is a horrible voiceover, but it's kind of part of the show. What else did I like about Squid Game? I like how it. I like anything that accentuates humans need for greed.

[Corey]

Yeah, that's the whole show.

[Parks]

It's real.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Cause it's real.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, it's real.

[Parks]

That was always idealistic.

[Joe Budden]

That was always interesting. I loved, I loved how this time they did the voting system more.

[Ish]

I thought that that's what threw me. Threw me off. Because I forgot in season one they did it once. When you did it once, they sent them back home. So this one had me on a cliffhanger each time they did it cuz I'm like, okay, what's going to happen if they all say they don't they want to cancel the game. So that was something that stood out to me.

[Corey]

I can't wait to the old rich guy gets it. I'm not gonna lie. The old rich guy, or not rich, but he was like in debt like a hundred million dollars. And he's been oppie since the get go.

[Ish]

He gonna get it.

[Joe Budden]

What?

[Ish]

They can't kill 4, 5, 6.

[Corey]

Not 4, 5, 6. I'm talking about the old dude that's in there that keeps. Every time they trying to do the vote is trying to sway everybody's opinion.

[Ish]

And yes, I know what I'm saying is that. But 456 would have to die in order for him to win. Remember, only one person can win win. Oh, get killed. Oh, Unless they decide because now they're saying they can split the money. So unless everybody decide like okay, we're going to cancel the game.

[Joe Budden]

So hopefully they do the Thing that pissed me off about these. Yo, I voted for us to continue playing the game because after the next game, we'll have enough money to quit. And then they win the next game, get the money. They watched all these niggas die and be like, nope, I still want to play. And I don't know the. The. The one. I don't know. I don't know the. The one currency.

[Corey]

Oh, yeah. It's a lot. It sounds like a lot.

[Joe Budden]

It sound like a lot to my American ears, man. I'm 480 million Juan in debt. I'm like, nigga, then you're done. Yeah, yeah, you're right. I liked it. Shout out to.

[Ish]

Yes. I need to watch it.

[Joe Budden]

I do want to see the next. The next season. Hopefully it comes out soon, but. Great. It was a great watch for me, you know?

[Ish]

Hey, yo, Mel, I've been trying to find a way to watch this Luther do, man. I couldn't find. I couldn't find.

[Melissa Ford]

It's on Hulu.

[Ish]

It's on cnn, too.

[Parks]

It's out only.

[Joe Budden]

You know what's on cnn? Streaming service cnn. It's.

[Melissa Ford]

It's on Hulu as well.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, they said. They said they killing Patty LaBelle. I saw. I saw that on the blog.

[Ish]

They right.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Oh. To kill Patti LaBelle. What Patty did was wrong, but I don't like the way they framed it as. So the documentary is fine. Like, it's one of those things you just talked about where I was expected to be the greatest documentary of all time. I'm a big. I'm a huge Luther Vandross fan. I'm working on a book on Luther Vandross, and I was, like, expecting something different.

[Corey]

You're writing a book about Luther?

[Ish]

Yes, if this one was.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. You a ill nick of this nigga.

[Ish]

Did you get permission? He. You can't just do that. I mean, I did know his mother. She lived in Philadelphia. Okay, here we go. In downtown Philadelphia. Yeah, drop it. Pick it up. But. But no, you don't. I don't need permission. And I actually want to talk about Luther's love life and his love and look at his life through the lens.

[Corey]

Oh, so you Patti LaBelle, too?

[Ish]

No, that's the point. That's the challenge, right, Is how do you talk about somebody who's never outed themselves and their love life and how do you deal with their sexuality? And so when I watched this documentary, I was like, how they gonna deal with this? And every single person said Luther was looking to find somebody. Luther wanted to Find that person. It was very gender neutral. But what they did was they used this. Watch what happens Live interview of Patti LaBelle where she was very clear in saying Luther didn't want people to know he was gay. Andy Cohen asked her the leading question, like, did Luther want people to know he was gay? Why didn't Luther come out? And she answered the question right. She should not have answered that question. Luther did not want her to answer that question. Luther spent his whole life not answering that question.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, y'all don't know how old people work.

[Parks]

Yeah, I was about to say, I ain't surprised.

[Ish]

I just don't like no Mark. You know, old Patty don't give a.

[Parks]

Especially some old person that really loves you and think that you might have been embarrassed for no reason or thinking that you. You know what I mean? Like, they tell, yeah, you think she.

[Ish]

Did it without the love, without having him?

[Melissa Ford]

I don't think that her intentions were bad. I just.

[Ish]

She had good intentions.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, I think she had good intentions. But I also think that at her. At her age and as long as she's been in the business, like, diplomacy has to have, like, you know, kind of kicked in, and it didn't.

[Ish]

I think that vodka was kicking in. I think she was on the show, she was drinking, she got loose. I mean, Quincy Jones did the same thing. Not the drinking part, but toward the end of his career, he starts, oh, yeah, that could be. You know, Richard Pryor.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. He used to suck dick.

[Ish]

You know, he was. I mean, it's literally what Quincy Jones was doing. He's talking. You don't do that shit. That's not okay.

[Joe Budden]

I feel like Quincy doubted himself, though.

[Ish]

Right.

[Parks]

But Quincy is different than what Patti LaBelle did.

[Ish]

Right. He told stories about people wowed out.

[Joe Budden]

He did.

[Parks]

Like, yo, this is my friend. He wasn't doing anything wrong. He might have felt. Because, you know, back then, too.

[Ish]

Died in 2005. It wasn't like he died, like, 20 years ago.

[Parks]

Yeah, but if in 2000, that away in 25. He was the man in the 80s. Luther was the man in the 80s. He died in 2005. But that wasn't at the height or pinnacle of his dominance in the music industry.

[Ish]

It kind of was. I mean, it. It wasn't. And it was. It was. It was. It was his most crossover. He died right as he got his first number one overall hit, Dance With My Father. Dance With My Father. So the idea is now the whole world knows who he is, and he still didn't want the world to know he was.

[Parks]

Nobody care about that white. I'm talking about Luther.

[Ish]

No, I'm with. What are you talking about?

[Joe Budden]

Dancing.

[Ish]

My father. You don't disrespect that record. We told you.

[Parks]

Not disrespecting. The record of vandross in the 90s was black royalty.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Parks]

So fuck dance with my fathers. We looked at that nigga as something different from his catalog prior to that.

[Ish]

And he didn't want those people in the 80s 90s to know he was gay.

[Parks]

That's my point. So now Patti LaBelle comes on an interview. Patti LaBelle's giving an interview, saying, yo, whatever you was doing that you might have been ashamed of, it was nothing. Ashamed of that and let it go.

[Ish]

That's not her choice to make.

[Parks]

I'm not.

[Joe Budden]

Well, he's dead.

[Parks]

He's dead.

[Ish]

Joe, If I told you right now, I got a secret, and I don't want anybody to know. It's not a secret. I'm Muslim, right? So if I don't. I don't talk about religion in public, right? I don't want anybody to know. I just talk about off air, right? So when I die, you can just go tell everybody.

[Joe Budden]

No, you just moved the goalpost.

[Parks]

You did.

[Ish]

How?

[Joe Budden]

If you tell me a secret and I hold that secret down and the world learns your secret secret, and then after you're gone, the question is opposed to me with your secret. I'm going to answer the question. But here's the thing. Especially if it's a different world where.

[Ish]

Yeah, here's why. Here's a. I'm sorry.

[Parks]

I'm just saying if it's a different world, where people are now more accepting.

[Ish]

And here's why that doesn't fit to me. No one has ever confirmed Luther's sexuality in public except Patti LaBelle. It wasn't like the world discovered he was gay. And then she said, well, why didn't he come out? No one has. When you look at that whole documentary, when you. I've read every article ever. No, I haven't seen it. No friend of Luther Vandross's has ever confirmed his sexuality.

[Melissa Ford]

He's right.

[Ish]

Luther asked every single friend, or assumed every single friend to not reveal his sexuality. So it wasn't like the world found out. And then she just answered the question that I could respect. So we just assumed that he was gay.

[Joe Budden]

So you swayed me with that.

[Parks]

So she confirmed the assumption. He's right. If Luther told every single person, yo, I don't want y'all to tell.

[Ish]

He literally has said that if you ask Roberta Flack. If you. If you ask. You can't ask Ouija board to ask Aretha. If you ask anybody else who's alive, then you are. Yeah, that's my only thing. It's like, you can't do that. That's my only issue.

[Joe Budden]

Persuade me. I'm gonna come with you.

[Parks]

Now, if he specifically asked him. Yeah, then you're right. I agree with that.

[Ish]

That's all I'm saying.

[Parks]

Cause even in death, honor his wishes. But you're right.

[Ish]

Now Patty's people are coming out now saying they feel like they were made into the villain. Though in the film. In the film, they make it. They make it seem almost as if America or the world had no consciousness about Luther's sexuality. Sexuality. Until she said something about it. Which also isn't fair because the world knew Luther was gay. I mean, there came a point where the world began to feel like Luther was gay. Maybe not in the 80s and 90s because my mom. No, I'm telling you, there's a lot of old black women that go to church that don't know they man is gay. They don't know their deacon is gay. They don't know pastor is gay. There's a lot of black people who like to be in denial about sexuality.

[Parks]

They knew Luther was gay.

[Ish]

Some did. I hear about Freddie Jackson, too. A lot of people tell me they didn't realize it until 20 years later. And I'm not outing Freddie Jackson. I think Freddie started to talk about it.

[Joe Budden]

I think you out of Freddie Jackson. No, that's crazy.

[Parks]

I never heard Freddy's my man. I never heard that.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I didn't hear that either.

[Parks]

Careful when you say that.

[Joe Budden]

Shut up. Ish.

[Parks]

I never heard that. Freddie Jackson.

[Joe Budden]

Jackson. Really?

[Ish]

Wow. Yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

Hilarious.

[Ish]

You and my lady 80. That was to Luther.

[Joe Budden]

Was Whitney ever. Oh, no. It's been a great show.

[Corey]

That's crazy.

[Ish]

What's wrong with you, Mar?

[Parks]

What's wrong with you, man?

[Corey]

That book is done for.

[Joe Budden]

I'm talking about Mar.

[Ish]

I can't wait to read that book. I'm trying to find a way to.

[Joe Budden]

That's a bad question to ask. Yes.

[Parks]

What?

[Joe Budden]

Was Whitney gay?

[Ish]

Robin wrote a book about it.

[Parks]

I heard she was by some sexual. Well, we know.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

My public answer is that Robin has had. I'm sorry. That Whitney has had friends like Robin, her best friend, say that they had. Were in sexual relationship.

[Parks]

Oh, they.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Parks]

She.

[Joe Budden]

She.

[Ish]

She talks about their sexual relationship and Oprah's. This whole place was shut down. I Don't I know. He challenge everybody. Yeah, G. Stand on it.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

I never heard none but about her being women.

[Melissa Ford]

No, Gail.

[Ish]

Allegedly.

[Melissa Ford]

Those are. Those are the rumors.

[Joe Budden]

It's been a great show.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I think we absolutely killed today's show. Round of applause.

[Corey]

Welcome back, welcome back.

[Joe Budden]

Wrap it up. Oh, wait, wait, wait.

[Parks]

Before we leave, before we get to sleepers, I just want to quick send a quick, quick, quick shout out to Shotgun Sug.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Jersey. Jersey. Jersey.

[Joe Budden]

Big show. Easy.

[Parks]

I told you.

[Joe Budden]

I heard it was a 30.

[Parks]

I told you.

[Ish]

30.

[Joe Budden]

30.

[Parks]

I told you. That's all I'm saying. I told you.

[Joe Budden]

I hate. I hate that.

[Ish]

Stop.

[Joe Budden]

I hate to be happy at a man losing, but, boy, did I feel good about him losing. Easy.

[Ish]

Did you feel good? More because of all the antics behind.

[Joe Budden]

You're goofy. Some of it's goofy to me. Not him. Him. Not him the person. Because I don't have a problem with him the person, but just some of the movements. I'm cool. I hated that.

[Ish]

That with Remy, right?

[Joe Budden]

One time. Remy, you love me.

[Ish]

Yes, yes.

[Joe Budden]

That's just the punchline. I could have. No comment. Yo, out of. Out of nothing but respect for Remy, no comment. I hated that bar. That's a comment.

[Parks]

No, my thing is, it was terrible.

[Joe Budden]

Terrible.

[Parks]

I'm tired of everybody running around saying, oh, enough with the Remy bars. Enough with the Remy bar. He is using Remy Bars himself. And in battle rap. This is gonna happen. Yo is still making trick trick jokes to my brother. Niggas is still talking to Hitman about the situation that happened to him. Like, we don't get to pick and choose. Battle rap is battle rap. If something happened, your business, get out there, it's gonna be used against you.

[Joe Budden]

That little. That little four bar run where Suge was like. He was talking all that shit about Geechee hiding behind a tree, but they were strapped in the inn and he had to make a decision. But when we saw you under that tree, you changed your religion or whatever the fuck he said. I was like, oh, shit. And I want to give Suge. I don't want to call him most improved because he's been on. He's been on a little run. He's been on a run. He's been on a run 100%. That was my first time. Time enjoying him that way. Pause. Very confident. Slowed it down.

[Ish]

Slow it down. Confident.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, it was slower. It was legible. It was bar city. That was Tim. I had to show Big Jersey. Yeah. Out of here. Easy. All them excuses.

[Parks]

Yeah. Talking about the Venue about Jersey.

[Joe Budden]

Jersey.

[Parks]

Y'all booked it.

[Ish]

Also going to places where they. Where they boo the out of, bro.

[Joe Budden]

They boo.

[Parks]

When he battled Cassidy. They booed my brother the second he walked out there. He didn't even touch the stage yet. He booed the whole way. You got to fight through that. Yeah, but my thing is easy. You are. You and Rim are a thing. Y'all book this. You don't now get to say they set me up by having it in Jersey. This y event.

[Joe Budden]

I hated that little punchline bar, dude.

[Ish]

It was terrible.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God.

[Ish]

Real quick, I rewatched loaded Lux and rum nitty on YouTube.

[Joe Budden]

Rum nitty 21.

[Ish]

You changed it.

[Joe Budden]

I said it already.

[Parks]

Yeah, he said that.

[Ish]

I didn't know that.

[Joe Budden]

That's how I change it. Because he had to deal with Lux, and Lux showed up. But he. He dealt with him. He did. He dealt with him. I. I give the edge to Remy Rum nitty. I do.

[Ish]

I still got Lux.

[Joe Budden]

What am I going with for my sleepers? Sleeper? Where'd you get those sleepers? Going old school. I'm going old school. Let's see if I have this. Let's see if I can still spell. All right, I'm going with Lloyd players prayer. Why the not? I'mma find out what they put in this laptop. This sounds as strong. I heard this song a million times. Sound different every night of the week. Looking for some creepy love that I should respect your heart that I should not play you hard but I, I.

[Ish]

Did I was.

[Joe Budden]

Over and over my life on my knees I promise I'll be good and I won't ever do it again My knees I can't get over you all I need is one more chance. I was just playing with them girls. I was going to get right back. I was driving your love.

[Ish]

It's very sad.

[Joe Budden]

I'm on my knees lord please show.

[Parks]

Me some love.

[Ish]

Thou shall not put.

[Joe Budden]

His friends before you Leave you alone every week. Thou shall not waste your time thou shall not make it cry But I did.

[Ish]

I was wrong and I'm hating me.

[Joe Budden]

I miss.

[Parks]

Thank you.

[Joe Budden]

Me Lord please show me.

[Parks]

Love.

[Joe Budden]

That you love me for.

[Parks]

Oh.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, no in my prayer oh, no, oh no, no, no girl, I'm on my way I promise I be good and I will never do it.

[Ish]

Again.

[Joe Budden]

Me love, me show me some love. Yo, that was Lloyd players prayer. Shout out to the legend, man. I with Lloyd, Another one of the people I'm happy to have shared my time on earth with, man. Shout out to him. Oh, Lord, they are stupid. In the kitchen it do be some fun times in the kitchen it do.

[Parks]

It do, it do man. Yo, I'm going to Jersey City, man. Jersey, Jersey. Jersey. I'm in the Jersey mood still this is Hood Olympics remix. This is Albie Al, Benny the Butcher, Jadakiss Freeway.

[Joe Budden]

This is hard. I meant to play this for weeks too. This is hard.

[Ish]

This is the remix that was looking out the window.

[Joe Budden]

You feel me?

[Ish]

This is the Premix Put me in Million dollar Parked in the trenches and I was all in the mouth I could have been a distance Gotta keep that on me I won't be a victim too like a red nose I'm a tell Look, I ain't got oppers, I just got haters Never tell a cop nothing Never give him data when you a real you don't count favors compact 45 with the green la mask on in the streets fighting like I'm Vega D Luke Skywalker Last op I call lacking he the Skywalker got a 6 sometimes I hear the sky I hate a hoe, I hate a bitter hey, watch your kid like a see I'm the type to hop out and go get a I never seen a casket that can't fit a no cap this feel like the Avengers or something like.

[Joe Budden]

Team USA.

[Parks]

I'm always there when they call me and your bra be on ghost I pull my hammer out and let her sit on me Hood sav, your streets love me speak the hood's language Keep the ladder on My opps is getting Nick St. Fireman grab the pole because he live dangerous Came up spitting old English made the big beard famous Freezer link with Al this that feeling, ain't it? Y'all want to meet Jamaica, we can make arrangements. I'll be in Jamaica sipping daggeries with.

[Ish]

Maya to my shooter get the wire.

[Parks]

Second ass matching body hit the pain yeah, we used to hit the road to get the payment Used to have.

[Joe Budden]

To use the duffel bag to get the gauges.

[Parks]

We still hit the road to get the dough but we ain't pushing Purse promoters pay me any cap a spoken word y'all bas pull up and let me poke their bellies every time y'all trust them? Out In Earth, they ner lost my son, daughter, 5 but then I reemerged.

[Ish]

To get him out the trap. It's gonna be a standoff with SWAT.

[Parks]

My last deal gave West 100 grand off the top.

[Ish]

Ever see a grown man get ran off a block? Wait, have you ever ran off of blocks?

[Joe Budden]

The whole city know you got bread.

[Ish]

On your top that tell me ever.

[Parks]

Had that hand off a Glock and don't feel no regrets when you hear.

[Joe Budden]

All the shots the streets made me.

[Parks]

What I'm running from Heavy influence see my homie with a rolly and I wanted one now he on the tear.

[Joe Budden]

Eating honey buns I'm still here he know I got him like the gear when you bungee jump this bush I.

[Ish]

Was in the game when y'all fronted.

[Joe Budden]

In a lunch line asking for change for a hundred when it's crunch time if the clip don't hang I don't.

[Ish]

Want it Got a beam on the front but can't aim with a button Now I'm downplay this rap shit Y'all.

[Joe Budden]

Nigga'S too street huh I'm on tour for like two, three months me and a fork versus a pop like a.

[Parks]

2V1 too many bricks I call he.

[Joe Budden]

And told him you keep something watching the YSL trial duck the DA in.

[Parks]

The ATL I'm worried about the IRS.

[Joe Budden]

Now you couldn't pay me to go.

[Parks]

Back that's I just was there with.

[Ish]

Like 80 of my they trying to make bars irrelevant followers and likes all the new artists development know me I stick to the element gun in the trunk that's as damn near as big as the elephant put the cuffs on and they tell it it who shot who and who got what and who's selling it Leaking fluid see me getting to it my man got an elbow and he ain't even do it don't try to understand me muzzle on the swim me a bag on your head that's a duffel on your family it could be a key of ounce hope you see it bounce today let the bros go may they free to count give a how you feel about the old cats I'm harder than the pedal to the shin on the road back I so crack whole lot down south.

[Parks]

Middle with the trenches little with gold.

[Ish]

Caps cloth don't exist hit a sauce on your money ain't a thing but it cost to be rich Only want to hold a torch when it's lit in time you realize he ain't awesome as this you know me wherever the work be celebrate me on my birthday not when they murk me from Wal Burton to Marion we get it done Y carry on million dollar parked in the trenches man I was all in the mouth I could have been a dentist got keep that on me I won't be a victim shoot like a red nose.

[Parks]

And that is hood Olympics remix Albie, Owl Freeway, Benny the Butcher and Jadakiss.

[Corey]

That's my type of. Right there. That was hard. Oh, you know where I'm going? I'm going to Bad Bunny. I'm going to Puerto Rico.

[Parks]

I think Benny and Jada.

[Corey]

This is Nueva yo.

[Parks]

Oh yeah. Are they spinning around?

[Joe Budden]

Didn't she away.

[Parks]

The best in the world.

[Joe Budden]

Number one.

[Parks]

The best in the world.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Corey]

That's Nueva yo. Bad Bunny. The new album is absolutely fire.

[Parks]

You go by melodies just to play these songs?

[Corey]

No. I need to hear this outside.

[Joe Budden]

What?

[Parks]

ASAP up part ain't on. Mini skirts with the hills. I know you know them should be flaring and spinning.

[Joe Budden]

Sh.

[Corey]

Still going to be here in the summertime. I promise you that. They not going to look. That's true too.

[Parks]

Good point.

[Corey]

That's true too.

[Parks]

Ho. Stand outside for four hours in the cold. I'm going to. Gentleman's name is. I think it's Areit Row.

[Corey]

Sure.

[Parks]

Or Arimitro. I don't know how to pronounce it, but Remitro.

[Joe Budden]

Salon song is called you and I'm outside in your mind but it feels right you went out and I Maybe it's the way that you show me love and effects new conversations I can be the one if you let me missing them long night you will come over and get mess in the scene weed is all I need to get you ready girl I know we toxic you always telling me I'm not I know you see me wilding girl you gon make me catch a body can't imagine with no one else I doubt it don't want to be with no one else Feels like that I know I'm better myself you ain't a outside of in your mind but it feels right you went out and I but it feels right no we ain't a match but you're my side. Cause I'm outside up in your mind D. But it feels right you went.

[Corey]

That is a rem. A remitros. You and I the letters. That was fire. I'm sorry for butchering your name, cuz. That was fire. Big bell, you gonna join us today? You gonna send me something?

[Parks]

Yo, what though?

[Joe Budden]

All right.

[Melissa Ford]

Did you get it?

[Corey]

I did.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Did you listen to it?

[Melissa Ford]

You. It's called Minute by Hablo Brown. Suck a dick. It's called Minute by Hablo Brown.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, my man.

[Melissa Ford]

I suck off my son. Never. I'd be teaching you.

[Corey]

Oh, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad.

[Joe Budden]

I don't really want you.

[Corey]

Minute that.

[Parks]

I got you fading I don't really.

[Joe Budden]

Want you.

[Parks]

Minute that I got you fading what you say Got me reminiscing about the days in LA back when combined I didn't even have a face. It was fake. 13:21. That's the base SA SA.

[Corey]

That is Minute by Heblo Brown. I like it. They look like they're trying to revive Yacht Rock.

[Joe Budden]

HLO Brown's my guy. Right here. That's my guy. She my son. No been my son.

[Melissa Ford]

They're not even close.

[Joe Budden]

It's cool, man. Ish. One sleepers. It's one the sleeper award.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Really? Yeah. Oh, I don't.

[Ish]

You don't pay attention over there.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, you do. I heard his discord. A discord light next time.

[Ish]

I wasn't.

[Parks]

I was not.

[Joe Budden]

You hear every day.

[Ish]

Yo give a break.

[Joe Budden]

Heads off the streets.

[Parks]

It's not even true though.

[Joe Budden]

It's getting that discord. The hammer. The hammer on them. I seen it too. I don't go there cuz I know my let your lie. I don't know.

[Ish]

You was in there cursing out. I want to hear it.

[Parks]

Never.

[Joe Budden]

Well, do you have an award speech? Man. Why you don't look happy for him. I You thought that would be. That would have been your award.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm indifferent.

[Joe Budden]

Why are you indifferent?

[Melissa Ford]

Because I just am. Congratulations. Or sorry. Whatever.

[Joe Budden]

Jesus. You wasn't happy?

[Parks]

Thought he won a lot. The. The scratch off.

[Joe Budden]

You know.

[Melissa Ford]

I said I was. I said I was ambivalent.

[Ish]

She said she was ambivalent.

[Joe Budden]

She was ambivalent.

[Parks]

I don't know what that means. I saw Maleficent.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, she was. Man.

[Ish]

Stay away from those groups. He don't with that. He don't give a. How much time did you cheer him on? He ain't going over there. He stays stronger than you could cheer me on. I don't give a you.

[Joe Budden]

Number five. That's number five on my 2024 five list. Space less. Space less.

[Ish]

No, no.

[Joe Budden]

I'm giving y'all my list. I'm not telling nobody what to do with their list.

[Parks]

Oh no. I was saying I don't believe so.

[Joe Budden]

An active case and TMZ is involved. Outside of that. Anybody y. What?

[Ish]

Stop doing that.

[Joe Budden]

Bro.

[Ish]

This dumb gonna say that's not that but say y'all called TMZ on myself.

[Parks]

I didn't say that. I Street said it.

[Ish]

No, he said it for.

[Parks]

I said the streets.

[Joe Budden]

TMZ said it.

[Ish]

TMZ never said no like that.

[Joe Budden]

I'm joking.

[Parks]

I said I told the streets they.

[Ish]

Was lying and that is insulting to me as a character.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, your back, your street. Stop lying on me.

[Parks]

How'd your back?

[Ish]

But ice. So that park said in the group, then.

[Parks]

No, I said what the street said. The street said, yo, this flip park, tmz, how do you do it?

[Ish]

Tell him I didn't do that. That nigga. That hurt my feelings.

[Parks]

Why would you fire at me if I'm telling this truth?

[Ish]

TMZ called my mother. Somebody from TMZ called my mother, and she called me.

[Parks]

Oh, you met with them?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Oh, yeah. So it was a scheduled meetup.

[Ish]

What do you. What do you mean?

[Joe Budden]

Yes. And what store was that?

[Ish]

That was over there by Moo. I told him I'll be over in this area.

[Joe Budden]

They came.

[Ish]

They did? Yeah, they did. You did?

[Parks]

In New Jersey?

[Ish]

Of course I did.

[Parks]

I thought they caught you in Queens somewhere.

[Ish]

That's what I thought.

[Joe Budden]

I thought they caught him at an airport or something. They was just at his crib. That was your schedule.

[Parks]

Meetup. Usually they catch a nigga at the airport outside the club.

[Ish]

Nah, they don't catch you at the airport. That's not how it work. But they reached out and said, yo, we want to speak about this situation. I hit en up. He told me, nah, but it was already too late. Wait, it's cool.

[Joe Budden]

That's. It's the flipping mark beef all over again. Just let it ride. This is my man. No matter.

[Ish]

You just want to find a reason to be. Turn that off real quick. You just want to find a reason to be aggravated. I get what you're saying. I'm down with you, but there's no way you can watch that and feel like your flip did.

[Parks]

Like, yes, you could.

[Ish]

For real.

[Parks]

You said you called in.

[Ish]

No, no, no. He didn't know about that part. He just found out that.

[Parks]

That.

[Joe Budden]

About that part left freeze cook, though, for a second.

[Ish]

I got.

[Parks]

You said you called.

[Joe Budden]

Ian.

[Ish]

Ian, TMZ wants to meet me. Give me something to say to them, because I don't want to incriminate my man and I want to troll them.

[Parks]

And what did he tell you?

[Ish]

He said, give me five minutes, I'mma call you back. Then he sends me a text. Yo, Joe, got some active shit going on. I don't think you should do it. But that was like 350something. I was already on my way to meet them at 4.

[Joe Budden]

So you didn't do it yet?

[Ish]

No.

[Parks]

And you still did it. And you still did it.

[Ish]

Tell him. Yeah, I didn't think so.

[Parks]

Your loyalty is the tmz.

[Ish]

Not J.

[Parks]

Allergies to the content.

[Joe Budden]

But.

[Ish]

But what I'm saying is that.

[Parks]

Not the jb.

[Ish]

When you don't do that. Don't play. Don't disrespect me like that. Don't disrespect me like that, Nigga.

[Joe Budden]

See me out the.

[Ish]

When you watch it. I don't think it was bad at all.

[Parks]

Me. What they. What they ask you, but that's not for you to decide.

[Ish]

True.

[Joe Budden]

And.

[Ish]

And if he decide.

[Joe Budden]

It's not on me to decide either.

[Ish]

No, you didn't decide anything that was bad.

[Joe Budden]

It ain't on me to decide. If. If that judge would have took it away that you niggas are doing. Doing press while I got this active serious case going on, then that.

[Ish]

I get it. I get it. I got you. I thought I did a good job.

[Parks]

What'd they ask you?

[Ish]

Just about to talk about Joe's character, then I stopped him and. And like, hold on. That's my man.

[Joe Budden]

He didn't say nothing bad about me.

[Parks]

His response was great.

[Joe Budden]

It's just the fact that there's press being done while I got.

[Ish]

I get it. No, I get it.

[Joe Budden]

It's a very serious, serious. I was in serious shit. I get that I might have made it look a certain way, even though I. I don't even think that. I think I was looking stressed, bummed out, dirty sweats, old school was bad. What? Oh, my Lord.

[Ish]

Yo, but each time you got a call up. No, he didn't look up, you know, rich up. But each time you got a call, each time you got a call, we could see the tension come up, you know, come down and down. He ain't look up.

[Joe Budden]

He can't trick us.

[Ish]

Let's strike against this.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, right now that I showed the park crib, like, looking like that.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Melissa Ford]

No.

[Parks]

No difference. White suit, difference in.

[Ish]

You had no jewelry on, right?

[Joe Budden]

There wasn't no top, no jewelry.

[Ish]

Put his jewelry in the box.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my Lord. That jewelry had to go. That's number six on my list.

[Ish]

We a chain that though.

[Joe Budden]

That's jewelry, huh? Yacked it for me. I couldn't get it back in.

[Parks]

Oh, you did?

[Joe Budden]

Hey, yo. Oh, my God. I made the call. Hey, yo, the goon.

[Ish]

The goon walk. The goon walked in for real.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, what?

[Ish]

The goon walked in today for real. Scared the shit out of me. Watch. How's he so quiet?

[Joe Budden]

You can't be.

[Ish]

No disrespect. You can't be that size and just be that quiet.

[Joe Budden]

Like, walk that be Tiptoeing boy. Every morning I try it. I wake up. I woke up 4:45 this morning. Hey, shout out to husky. It's cold out there, isn't it? I'm like, wait, go to bed.

[Ish]

If you watch Joe's face, it really begins. He just trying to think like, what the is going.

[Joe Budden]

No. If I had hindsight back in the day, I'd have never dated a Scorpio.

[Ish]

You think it's. So you believe in the sign thing, right?

[Joe Budden]

Like Scorpio. I believe.

[Parks]

I'm starting to. I. I believe.

[Ish]

I know you didn't believe.

[Parks]

I'm starting to believe in some of that. It's just too much that's happening. That's. I believe in that point.

[Ish]

It's just signs that just fit certain people, man.

[Corey]

Yeah, for sure.

[Joe Budden]

I'm definitely seeing it now. Scorpios and Tauruses really are. Are for Virgos. I think any other sign of Virgo will spin them right into the grave. But Tauruses and Scorpios like don't know how to play, right? They like the shooters of the signs.

[Corey]

Yeah, my wife's Taurus.

[Ish]

I gotta learn more about signs. I don't really believe that Virgo.

[Parks]

Capricorn, strong girl.

[Joe Budden]

Virgo's gonna fall to anybody with fucking good sex. Which is Scorpios and Tauruses too, in the zodiac.

[Ish]

Got it.

[Joe Budden]

The zodiac, not you leave her alone. What? Cuz she be thinking she a Scorpio.

[Melissa Ford]

You.

[Joe Budden]

What's your rising sign?

[Melissa Ford]

Hey, look, I got small hands, a soft mouth. Okay, I'm doing just.

[Ish]

Hey, no stopping her now. She's on the move. Let's go, man.

[Parks]

I'm right now. I lost you.

[Ish]

Yo, you had that plan of your.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah. I don't feel.

[Parks]

Oh, that's going in my muscles already.

[Joe Budden]

I feel like I got a journal and everything. Power Dynamics should have like stopped that, but it didn't. Wait, she said small hands? What that mean?

[Ish]

I don't know. It sounded crazy. It sounded like some.

[Parks]

It'll help you. Never mind.

[Ish]

Make your look big.

[Melissa Ford]

If you know, you know.

[Ish]

Oh, she can do the two. She can. She can do the two handstand. Oh, you gonna fit that there? Oh, you gonna do the two hands to me? Not me, man. I'm talking about in general. No, you a freakish.

[Joe Budden]

Let me do that.

[Ish]

No, don't do that.

[Parks]

You can't do that.

[Ish]

You can't do that.

[Joe Budden]

I want to see.

[Ish]

That's been so hard.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, listen, good show today.

[Ish]

Nope.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let me put my headphones on for a minute. Let me put my headphones on real quick. Gotta stop. Gotta stop the broadcast, not the music, but I gotta stop the broadcast for a real one. We want to shout out to Zier Franklin, friend of the show. Yes, sir, friend of the show. Hit the round of applause. Very first Pro Bowl. Very first Pro Bowl. NFL sack. You hear me? Sacks NFL. NFL tackle leader Zaire Franklin. Oh, and gave Pat McAfee that imaginary death. Yeah, I like. I like a little lightweight. Crash out directly after I call a and say, yo, whatever you do, don't crash out. That's my favorite time when to crash out anyway, man. Yo, I want to again, shout out to the judge, shout out to pro prize picks, shout out to my attorney, shout out to the fans. Thank you for your patience during this very tough and embarrassing time for me.

[Ish]

I was.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God. So embarrassed and ashamed. I gotta work on feeling embarrassed. I don't embarrass, right? Like, even on a stand. Oh, I was getting my bag. Stop. Like, wait. And I'm embarrassed.

[Ish]

Like, oh, God.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I gotta take the stand more often.

[Ish]

No, no.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God. No, for real. That is an experience. Like, every word you say, man. I was in the ass on that stand.

[Parks]

Oh, you got cooking.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Because you can only answer the question that you asked. Yep. So it's up to your wit to say what you trying to say or.

[Parks]

Accept the yell with to make your lawyer ask you some more.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So they gonna ask a very simple question and I spend all that into these racist Here go they Lord.

[Ish]

I have checked, I have checked. I have checked.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Shut up.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, man, what a fun time. But not so fun time. It's dark and hell is hot. Let me remind y'all, keep us in your prayers. I am a shutter shining example of that.

[Corey]

Lord. Lord knows.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God. Lord knows. Y'all think it's just a pod outro. It should be real, man. We need your prayers. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be here. Until next time, I bid you ado farewell. Adios, arriba, dirche. Hasta la vista. Au revoir. So long, goodbye or a simple head nod will suffice. Remember, life is a series of months. Moments and moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. And lastly, let's go big Mel. You got it. Come on. I heard you do it while I was going. Lastly, what the. Added to Baddies and the cutie pies and the stagnant women and the closed minded. He's fucking my outro.

[Melissa Ford]

I think I did it right now. Baddies are insecure. Now you're sitting right next to me and I'm all fucked up. Baddies are insecure. Figure out what's the next.

[Joe Budden]

Stagnant women want to travel.

[Melissa Ford]

And the closed minded women want you to teach me. Teach them things. Grab you a tile and all. You're gonna need it.

[Joe Budden]

There you go.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay.

[Ish]

Big mail.

[Joe Budden]

Big mail, man. Again. Again. Thank you, guys. Thank you guys. Happy to be back with y'all. Happy to be back over here again. Round of applause for Park Studio. Parks came in, you guys.

[Melissa Ford]

Goddamn right the basement was fun.

[Corey]

Can't wait to rearrange.

[Parks]

You my up. Leaving water bottles all over the place.

[Corey]

I don't care about that. I just. My man cave is gone. My control room's the wrong side. It's all. This feng shui is all backwards.

[Joe Budden]

And you know what? As convenient as it is to just work from home or just go right downstairs, sometimes it's good to just take a little drive route real quick to work.

[Corey]

Yeah, like I enjoy. Like I said, I enjoy driving here. So I said get the out the house.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, man.

[Parks]

You got the benefit of coming the other way. Pause.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true.

[Parks]

What you mean going.

[Joe Budden]

Going into New York is different than.

[Parks]

Coming from New York.

[Corey]

I gotta go back in New York.

[Parks]

Yeah, but it's.

[Joe Budden]

But it's different then too.

[Parks]

Now it's reversed.

[Joe Budden]

It's different.

[Parks]

It's reversed. All of them. New Jersey. Yeah, the Jersey people work in the city, right? Nobody don't live in the city. City work over here. They'll pay enough. You get what I'm saying?

[Corey]

Sometimes that different.

[Joe Budden]

Rest in peace. Catch steak.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Gone but not forgotten. A lot of good times over there, man. Shout out to everybody who might be mourning with us. Shout out to Maddie too, man. I seen Rihanna hit that. Girls love karaoke. I seen that. Riri was up in there.

[Ish]

Hey, I'm so proud of.

[Joe Budden]

Proud of Maddie, man. Until next time. Y'all hold it down out there. Actually, that's only right.

[Parks]

You want to sit with that, though?

[Ish]

Don't see it worth it. I thought the.

[Joe Budden]

With the cows. He wild naked. Hey, I mean, in memory of me. In memory of naked me. Hopefully everybody heard this podcast so I don't have to continue to explain myself to bartenders while they make me pineapple juice. I'm going let this hook go. And we are going on? He need one of these. He need one of these. This ain't bad, right? He better call Tank. He better. Who wrote this?

[Ish]

Tank.

[Joe Budden]

Right? You better call Tank. Playing around, man.

[Parks]

Now he write his own music.

[Joe Budden]

You see what Tank was here. I played. I played. I'm not perfect. Sure did.

[Parks]

Hey, so much.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, this was. If this happened to anybody else, I would be on their ass, boy.

[Ish]

Can you tell me about it?

[Joe Budden]

I. I appreciate the ops, man. I appreciate the ops. Y'all take it easy on me. They took it easy. Pause. All right, man. Until the next time. Big Jersey. Big Jersey.

[Ish]

Hey.

[Joe Budden]

Why? This is too long. Sorry. Here we go.

[Ish]

Jbp. Jbp.

[Melissa Ford]

Where would you be without the jbp?