Episode 808 | "Meet Me At The Police Station"

Summary

Detailed Summary of "The Joe Budden Podcast" Episode 808 | "Meet Me At The Police Station"

Podcast Information:

• Title: The Joe Budden Podcast
• Host/Author: The Joe Budden Network
• Description: Tune into Joe Budden and his friends. Follow along the crazy adventures of these very random friends.
• Episode: Episode 808 | "Meet Me At The Police Station"
• Release Date: March 15, 2025

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1. Safe Meetup Practices and Online Transactions (00:00 - 05:00)

Discussion Highlights: The episode kicks off with Joe Budden emphasizing the importance of safe online transactions, humorously referencing the notion of meeting at the police station to purchase items like an Xbox. The hosts discuss the idea of using public and secure locations to mitigate risks associated with in-person exchanges.

Notable Quotes:

• Joe Budden (00:56): "Most of the audience is listening to use it against you in the court of public opinion."
• Melissa Ford (06:00): "They gonna go over here where I got the cash. You got this."

2. Student Programs and Being a Guinea Pig (05:00 - 12:00)

Discussion Highlights: The conversation shifts to student programs, particularly focusing on massage schools where students seek bodies to practice on. Parks defends the practice, highlighting it as a reciprocal arrangement where feedback is provided to students.

Notable Quotes:

• Parks (01:55): "There is an epidemic of over promising and under fucking delivering."
• Melissa Ford (02:31): "That sounds a way of giving back."

3. Personal Encounters and Street Life Stories (12:00 - 25:00)

Discussion Highlights: The hosts share personal anecdotes related to confrontations and robberies, particularly in Brooklyn. Ish recounts an incident where he was robbed, detailing how he managed to protect himself by making noise and defending his chain. The discussion underscores the unpredictability and dangers of street life.

Notable Quotes:

• Ish (12:03): "Niggas could look outside the window."
• Parks (14:00): "Brooklyn don't play."

4. Gender Wars and the Evolution of Masculinity (25:00 - 58:00)

Discussion Highlights: A significant portion of the episode delves into the concept of gender wars and the perceived erosion of traditional masculinity. Anthony Mackie's statement that "the American male is dead" sparks a debate among the hosts about the evolution of masculinity, the pressures faced by men, and how societal expectations have shifted. Comparisons are made with artists like Lil Wayne and Jay-Z to explore whether their evolution has peaked.

Notable Quotes:

• Joe Budden (56:08): "Lil Wayne is peaked. Like, I don't know what they're talking about."
• Parks (56:04): "The growth of his lifestyle. He's no longer rapping about selling drugs and shit like that."
• Ish (55:34): "Jay keeps evolving. He comes back and does music. He sounds good."

5. Dawn Richardson's Personal Struggles and Public Perception (58:00 - 110:00)

Discussion Highlights: The episode addresses a recent incident involving Dawn Richardson, a former member of En Vogue, who was videotaped stating she had been living in her car for three years. The hosts analyze public reactions, Jermaine Dupri's comments, and the implications of such revelations on public perception. The conversation touches on themes of personal struggle, media portrayal, and the stigma associated with homelessness.

Notable Quotes:

• Parks (72:37): "I've been living in my car. I respect her too much."
• Joe Budden (80:23): "She didn't sound too well."
• Ish (85:30): "She was forced to grow up a lot faster than we should."

6. Television Show and Album Reviews (110:00 - 160:00)

Discussion Highlights: The hosts review and discuss various television shows such as "Severance," "The Pit," and movies like "Terminator 2" and "Save the Last Dance." They critique plot developments, character evolutions, and production quality, drawing parallels with other popular media. Additionally, Joe Budden promotes Fridays' album "Saving My Love," highlighting standout tracks.

Notable Quotes:

• Joe Budden (131:34): "Might be the greatest sequel ever."
• Melissa Ford (146:35): "They could have been you, but you blew it nigga."

7. Legal Discussions and High-Profile Cases (160:00 - 185:00)

Discussion Highlights: The conversation shifts to legal matters, discussing cases like Adnan Syed and Christopher B.G. Dorsey's probation conditions, including the controversial requirement to surrender song lyrics to the court. The hosts express concerns about privacy, freedom of speech, and the implications of such legal stipulations on artists.

Notable Quotes:

• Joe Budden (163:02): "She couldn't defend it."
• Melissa Ford (159:55): "We all be believing that yeah, these pedophiles and these people that fuck with kids should get."

8. End-of-Episode Reflections and Promotions (185:00 - 210:00)

Discussion Highlights: As the episode wraps up, the hosts reflect on the topics discussed, reiterate stances on support and justice, and share final thoughts. Promotional segments for Prize Picks are interspersed, with Joe Budden encouraging listeners to participate in sports-related fantasy platforms.

Notable Quotes:

• Joe Budden (160:33): "Give it up for Friday. That was a lot of heat on that project."
• Ish (208:05): "We have to protect our daughters from predatory men."

9. Final Remarks and Closing (210:00 - 211:40)

Discussion Highlights: In the concluding moments, the hosts engage in light-hearted banter, joke about podcast topics, and express camaraderie. They emphasize the importance of listening and not judging, ending the episode on a note of unity despite the heated discussions.

Notable Quotes:

• Joe Budden (211:18): "She look like a few bulbs short of a chandelier."
• Parks (211:50): "She is standing there looking stupid in the face while I was taking pictures."

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Conclusion: Episode 808 of "The Joe Budden Podcast" titled "Meet Me At The Police Station" offers a blend of personal anecdotes, societal critiques, and spirited debates on topics ranging from safe online transactions to the evolution of masculinity and legal entanglements faced by artists. The hosts navigate through complex discussions with humor and candidness, providing listeners with both entertainment and thought-provoking content.

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Note: All timestamps correspond to the provided transcript segments and are included to attribute notable quotes accurately.

Transcript

[Joe Budden]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. La la la la la. Do ray me. All right, all right.

[Ish]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Budden]

Everything you're saying, everything you guys say from this point on is being recorded.

[Melissa Ford]

Can and will be used against you in the court of public opinion.

[Parks]

Oh, that's a fact. That's for sure.

[Joe Budden]

Actually, most of the audience is listening. To use it against you in the court of public opinion.

[Parks]

Absolutely.

[Joe Budden]

So just now that we're on, we are. Please commence to having the conversation you guys were just having.

[Ish]

Okay, now, from the beginning or from the middle?

[Joe Budden]

I don't know. I laugh. I laugh. Cause Mel stood on it like, Mel.

[Ish]

Don'T give a fuck. So we were talking about getting the B12 shots.

[Parks]

Well, no IV drips. Did it start with B12 shots?

[Ish]

Well, that's what I mean.

[Ice]

Same shit.

[Ish]

Yeah, IV drips. I said that I was going to Queens because I know a lady out there that she's gonna comp me. Cause of who I am. You said fancy. You said, you can go to Jersey so you could do it in Jersey. Michael Paul recommended someone, and I think you'll get comp there as well. Then I said. Then Ice made a joke and said, I like, we like the comps.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, no. Ain't no joke.

[Ice]

Yeah, so then Ice made a dead ass.

[Ish]

He made a dead ass. And then somehow Mel said, yeah, I like to hire students to do shit for me.

[Parks]

Wait, wait, hold on. So wait, hold on one second.

[Ish]

Those student programs don't work, by the way.

[Parks]

Yes, they do, Mel. So one of the best things that you can do.

[Ice]

You're a guinea pig.

[Parks]

Hold on one second. You know, there's different. There's different schools. You know what I'm saying? So, like, if you wanted to go to, like, a massage school, they're always looking for bodies to practice on.

[Ice]

Sure.

[Parks]

What?

[Melissa Ford]

You're not letting these niggas practice on you, are you?

[Ish]

Yes.

[Parks]

And I will tell them exactly what they're doing right and what they're doing wrong. Keep going.

[Ish]

You try to. You try to save money by any means.

[Ice]

Belle's a guinea pig, man. Let her come.

[Parks]

Listen, I'm helping out, okay? This is a very good massage. Please, listen. I do, but this is a very Reciprocal thing to do. You know what I'm saying?

[Melissa Ford]

That sounds a way of giving back.

[Parks]

It is. Massage students are looking for bodies to practice on and then Mel Ford walks.

[Ish]

And they can't work.

[Parks]

Hola. Yes.

[Joe Budden]

One day you have to stop being such a crackhead though.

[Parks]

How?

[Ish]

I don't think he's a crackhead.

[Parks]

Listen, I will say this. I am a crackhead for massages. I am. I like. She's cheap, frugal.

[Ish]

Those programs that I try. Listen, I try to get it. I try to do your bag. I try to get it off with the free editor. Yo, I'm looking for an editor from Premiere Pro.

[Parks]

Oh, yeah. No, no, no, I'm not playing with that. Don't worry, I'm not playing with that.

[Ish]

Them don't know how to do nothing. They don't know what they doing.

[Parks]

You know, I'm not playing for that.

[Ish]

They up and put different logos. They use the fonts. What's it called? Ariel or what they use. Those shits don't work. You can't use them from the school.

[Parks]

No, no, no. Not editing, not stuff like that.

[Ish]

No, we know.

[Ice]

Health.

[Ish]

That's your biggest beef. You want me say your biggest beef? You were editors.

[Parks]

Oh, I mean it's. Listen, it's fucking hard to find good work like. Listen, there is an epidemic of over promising and under fucking delivering.

[Ish]

No, they just charge. They charge too much and you don't like the results. That's what it is. And you try to find a way to circumvent it.

[Joe Budden]

And then you go up to Seton hall and try to get it done. Or Rutgers or nothing.

[Ish]

I'm looking for an editor.

[Joe Budden]

Any of these colleges with these programs?

[Parks]

No, no, no, not with editing. You can't skim there, you can't skimp there. But you can't skimp there.

[Ish]

You cannot.

[Melissa Ford]

But you can skimp with the massage though. I mean, you can have the rookie touching you.

[Parks]

You guys say that like it's a bad thing.

[Ish]

It is.

[Parks]

No, it's not.

[Joe Budden]

One day. One day you have to stop being you.

[Ish]

Getting too much money.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

The truth is I'm a struggle no more.

[Parks]

I used to do that in la. I used to.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, how about that? Let's not even pocket watch.

[Parks]

But here's famous. I know, but here's the kicker is not everybody knows who the fuck I am. And I don't walk through the door assuming that people are going to know exactly who I am.

[Ish]

She did it a lot in la. She had a studio. And I got.

[Joe Budden]

I got so many. Don't worry about it.

[Ice]

You will get your theories off. No, too early for the theory.

[Joe Budden]

I got so many theories about Mel.

[Parks]

Okay, well, I think parcel them out as, you know, as the. As the hours go by.

[Ice]

Start with one theory.

[Joe Budden]

Like Mel just. She looks to insert her. Her being just in certain situations, like free massages at Seton Hall.

[Parks]

We just made shit up right now.

[Melissa Ford]

That shit sound crazy.

[Joe Budden]

I think she'd just be home like, you know what'd be fun?

[Ice]

She'd be on Craigslist, go crazy.

[Joe Budden]

She'd just be home watering her fucking library vines, just thinking, do you get.

[Ice]

Like emails or something? Like, here's some free shit to go do.

[Parks]

No, you know what? LA is just like a really different place.

[Ice]

You live in New York.

[Parks]

I know, but I lived in LA for like 9 years the last time and then before that. So it's just like things like TaskRabbit or things like Offer Up. That is huge in LA. And it just. It's very common for people to meet up and not have any fear that you're meeting up with a serial killer. Here. It's way different. And I'm just.

[Ice]

No TaskRabbit in offer up is regular shit here.

[Parks]

TaskRabbit, not so much. Listen, I had a girlfriend who was trying and she literally was just like, okay, meet me at the police station.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh yeah, that's where I bought my PlayStation and my Xbox from.

[Parks]

I was like, the police station.

[Melissa Ford]

I know what time it is.

[Ice]

And my Mercedes. I know exactly what time it is.

[Melissa Ford]

Yo, we going right over there inside too. Under this camera.

[Joe Budden]

That is helmet. Wait, you bought your PlayStation and what?

[Melissa Ford]

And my Xbox back when you police station.

[Ish]

The shit is wrong with you.

[Melissa Ford]

When the shits was all sold out, you couldn't get them in the stores, so you had to pay a little. Little markup on it.

[Joe Budden]

Ye.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm not meeting up over here in no parking lot, my nigga. We gonna go over here where I got the cash. You got this.

[Joe Budden]

You listen to way too much drill for me to accept it.

[Melissa Ford]

I live in a real world.

[Joe Budden]

Why you ain't grab the strap? What is wrong with you?

[Melissa Ford]

You want me to go over there with the strap so I could possibly get myself a.

[Joe Budden]

That's how we did it.

[Melissa Ford]

A lot of niggas is locked up for doing it that way.

[Joe Budden]

Grab your nigga that got the strap and go get your Xbox, man.

[Ice]

Little box cutter. Get the job done or I'm going.

[Melissa Ford]

To show up over here.

[Joe Budden]

Me and l. Dude like that, go meet at the police station to buy the Xbox from me. Union.

[Melissa Ford]

Police department right there.

[Joe Budden]

Don't do that. That's offensive.

[Melissa Ford]

And they got a sign.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not selling it to you.

[Ice]

You could have done a Starbucks or McDonald's. There cameras there.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. That's nasty. Freeze.

[Ice]

A library, maybe.

[Joe Budden]

I got to hold you accountable.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, listen. That's nasty.

[Melissa Ford]

Let's rock out.

[Ice]

The police station is extra.

[Melissa Ford]

They got a sign for Xbox. I'm saying he's paying a stack for the Xbox. Yeah. No.

[Ish]

Act like. Don't book in the parking lot. Stop.

[Ice]

Of course they do. But let me say this.

[Joe Budden]

If you're dumb enough for the parking lot to be the meetup space, there's a middle ground. Parks just said, meet me at Starbucks, fam. You can still get robbed at Starbucks, Robbie. And Starbucks. Or not rob me and Starbucks, maybe.

[Melissa Ford]

That's not Robbie. Unless you go over here where we want to.

[Joe Budden]

I can tell that. Don't go to Starbucks. And I think y'all do go to Starbucks.

[Ish]

I don't drink coffee.

[Joe Budden]

The last time you say get robbed of Starbucks. Well, Starbucks ain't really getting their local.

[Ish]

I see. Get.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, there's a reason. There's a reason for this. I see.

[Ish]

Get racially profiled in Starbucks. Starbucks, yeah, for sure. Starbucks.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, black men peeing on themselves.

[Ish]

I'm gonna keep it real. I'm listening to you guys. And the last time I used Craigslist was for salacious activities.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, nobody said Craigslist.

[Ice]

You were probably pussy off Craigslist.

[Ish]

Somebody said Craigslist earlier in here. Someone said.

[Parks]

We did.

[Ice]

We did.

[Joe Budden]

Thank you. We did. It was in the conversation, Craig.

[Ish]

This was lit for the box.

[Ice]

You are what? You are a filthy animal.

[Ish]

Back page shut down.

[Ice]

That's just like D.C. no, that is like.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not playing with it.

[Melissa Ford]

What does that mean? I don't know nothing. You talking about.

[Joe Budden]

We need a doc. We need to doc about the Craig.

[Ice]

I knew some people that were some people off Craig.

[Ish]

Thank you.

[Ice]

Like, you shouldn't.

[Ish]

That was lit. Hit me right down the block, too. Hey, yo, Tina, where you at?

[Joe Budden]

Nah. Y'all laughing. Nah, damn, I'm cool.

[Ish]

I caught some bodies on Craigs, boy.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, you just get yours off MySpace like everybody else, man.

[Ish]

Nah. Cause listen, Craigslist, you, MySpace, you had to do some top eight, top all that.

[Melissa Ford]

No, you didn't.

[Ish]

Craigslist is straight. Craigslist is straight to the point.

[Melissa Ford]

That was MySpace.

[Ish]

Yeah, but MySpace was. But I had stack on my. I had to ask them to put Me on their top eight to get like. It was just too.

[Joe Budden]

What?

[Ish]

Too much. I had to ask.

[Joe Budden]

Okay. A lot is funny today.

[Ish]

At the time, rest in peace Stack Bundles was popping. So if stack had you on the top eight.

[Ice]

But you could just get like, you.

[Melissa Ford]

Don'T have pussy, but whatever.

[Joe Budden]

Or you could have just been cool.

[Ish]

I was cool.

[Joe Budden]

Charlie wasn't cool enough.

[Ish]

Listen n my top eight, dog.

[Joe Budden]

My MySpace page said ain't nobody's top eight. You top a is crazy.

[Ish]

My. My space page had the Sidekick opening up. My was lit. You talking about I was Queen's flip. But before that, were you? Yes. I had to act.

[Joe Budden]

You might could have made like the top 90.

[Ish]

Oh, you don't.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

When started going crazy, you was on the bottom row.

[Ish]

Something Never good.

[Melissa Ford]

Top 48.

[Ish]

I went to Craigslist. I was a Craigslist.

[Joe Budden]

Is Craigslist still around or.

[Ice]

It's not really lit like that anymore. I think people use the Facebook marketed.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, Facebook marketplace where they go Craigslist.

[Ice]

Killer D. When people was getting killed off Craigslist.

[Ish]

I'm sure.

[Ice]

Yes, I'm sure they were.

[Melissa Ford]

They should have met up at the police department.

[Ice]

Can't get pussy at the police department.

[Ish]

Well, Craigslist killer was lit next.

[Joe Budden]

You buying your Xbox at the police station? I don't know. Okay, listen, I'm not over that. I'm not okay with that. I'm not okay with that.

[Melissa Ford]

That's cool.

[Joe Budden]

I'm fine with it Some.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I feel like something has to happen today.

[Melissa Ford]

Nothing.

[Joe Budden]

Even though that was mad long ago.

[Ish]

What do you mean something has to happen today?

[Ice]

I just want to redeem his body.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah. Something gotta happen today. He gotta go merc something.

[Ish]

You want Freezey Rob?

[Joe Budden]

Nah, he got.

[Ish]

I gotta go slide another slide if you get. I'm not being funny, but I can't if I to picture you getting robbed is.

[Joe Budden]

It's funny.

[Ish]

I see you just. Hey, man, hold on. Let me get my wallet.

[Melissa Ford]

Y Y.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, you forgot something. You forgot something, bro.

[Melissa Ford]

Yes, that's exactly how I was with Freeze. You can't do you out your gu.

[Ish]

You got to go down with a fight. Freeze.

[Melissa Ford]

You have to rest in peace to the. That went down with the fight.

[Joe Budden]

All right, man.

[Parks]

That's a fact.

[Joe Budden]

Maybe. Maybe he's talking about the kickback.

[Melissa Ford]

Crazy as hell.

[Joe Budden]

Maybe the TVs are getting put up in the kickback now. Oh, no. Oh, my Lord. Holy shit. How you act when you get robbed? Flip.

[Ish]

Cool.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm queen Flip.

[Ish]

I'm going out With a bang.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, it's gonna be a bang, all right.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Ish]

I mean, I never got robbed. There was an attempt robbery in Brooklyn one time. And, you know, that went out a little different because of the current situation that I was in. But I started making noise. I told you, man. So niggas could look outside the window. But then I forgot I was in Brooklyn. No, no, no, no. I'm a rock.

[Parks]

He's got a gun.

[Ish]

I'm still staying with you. I was not gonna say that. Cause I had something. But at the same time, I was just. I was outnumbered tremendously.

[Ice]

Tremendously.

[Parks]

That's not fair.

[Ish]

And I got my chain grabbed in Brooklyn. It fell on the floor, and then I was able to pull a move and make noise. Yo, yo, yo.

[Ice]

How much does the chain worth?

[Ish]

Doesn't matter.

[Ice]

It does.

[Ish]

They wasn't looking outside. And where is it now, the chains in my house.

[Ice]

Oh, it's an expensive chain.

[Ish]

I picked it up.

[Joe Budden]

It could just be saying whatever.

[Ish]

I swear to God. It's the Flip Stack Bundles chain. I got it.

[Joe Budden]

You got it? Yeah.

[Ish]

You thought I'm lying?

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Ish]

You think my chain is going shout out to Mother G. See? Shout to the. Over there. Bad. But I got it that down so fast.

[Joe Budden]

It's in the house.

[Ish]

Right now.

[Parks]

Don't let me.

[Ish]

Don't let me.

[Joe Budden]

You know what I learned this month? Just be on these pods, lying, lying, whatever. Lies, too. Come on, think about the lies, J.R. look at this.

[Ish]

Junior with my chains, my chain.

[Joe Budden]

He's like, what? What? Change.

[Melissa Ford]

You got a chain.

[Ish]

Oh, excuse me.

[Joe Budden]

Where is it?

[Ish]

It's in the drawer. Thank you. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't get tucked away right.

[Ice]

Tied up to the dog.

[Ish]

Of course I tucked it away.

[Joe Budden]

That's what we say. Yeah. Yeah.

[Ish]

That broken, all that. That was crazy. Them Brooklyn don't play When. Why was I in Brooklyn? Brooklyn. Three in the morning, late at night, I went to go see a thing. Three in the morning. They came out. They came out the. I never forget. They came out the minivan. Huh?

[Joe Budden]

It's when he was like 15. Oh, tell me. When he was like 14 long. I remember.

[Melissa Ford]

And he put that chain back on.

[Joe Budden]

Since either too small.

[Ish]

Now 25 years, they'll see somebody go have a conversation with them three in the morning about something. Politics.

[Ice]

Politics.

[Parks]

As usual.

[Ish]

Some. Oh, whoa. Oh, look at you.

[Melissa Ford]

So.

[Ish]

I'm.

[Ice]

Such a dork.

[Ish]

I'm done with the story. I'm done with the story. That's crazy, man. That's how gigas get in trouble with their Families, you got to be careful in these neighborhoods late at night. Sometimes you just feel free spirited and think you could go anywhere. And niggas in Brooklyn will remind you.

[Melissa Ford]

It ain't just Brooklyn.

[Joe Budden]

Never again.

[Ish]

I mean, of course, I mean, that's what my incident happened. Just three in the morning. Mother gas is just walking around.

[Parks]

Woo.

[Joe Budden]

Ooh.

[Ish]

Niggas came out the minivan. Yeah, what you know where you at?

[Melissa Ford]

We got one.

[Ice]

You were skinny then.

[Joe Budden]

I stopped going to Brooklyn when I was 23.

[Ish]

Brooklyn opened the park. Brooklyn don't. I mean, it's good now, but Brooklyn don't play.

[Ice]

Depending on where you're at, we not.

[Ish]

Gonna act like Brooklyn play. They don't play over there.

[Joe Budden]

They don't play cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ish]

Why was 23 your last time? What were you doing? What's she. What are you on?

[Melissa Ford]

You learned. They learned them.

[Ish]

You were in crowd heights.

[Joe Budden]

Nothing bad happened to me in Brooklyn.

[Melissa Ford]

Cause you got up out of there fast enough.

[Joe Budden]

I've been in Brooklyn a few times where just was. It almost got crazy. Yeah, like whatever that bowling alley is over there, 360, I don't know, the gas station across the street.

[Ish]

No, you talking about the skating ring, Joe, not the bowling alley.

[Joe Budden]

Whatever the fuck it is.

[Ish]

I know what you talking about, boy. You had to walk to the gas station.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, it was a skating. Yeah, the skating rig by the. With the gas station, boy. I said, okay, me too.

[Ish]

You got a boy.

[Joe Budden]

I'm like, why would somebody voluntarily come over here? Like I was looking out a warehouse window. N was getting killed over there. Mad niggas getting robbed. I'm like, yo, why? Why am I here? Niggas on some Jersey shit, trying to be cute too. Do you all know where you are?

[Ice]

You're famous yet.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, no.

[Ish]

So here's the thing. And I learned this, right? Irish goodbyes are the best way to escape robberies.

[Ice]

That's not wrong.

[Ish]

You have to just leave randomly, nigga.

[Ice]

Or just anything bad happening in nefarious.

[Ish]

Place, niggas like to wait till. No, you leave like 40 minutes before it closes.

[Ice]

For sure.

[Ish]

You leave when there's some distract.

[Ice]

You should never go anywhere.

[Melissa Ford]

That's like lesson one, you never close the club down or the spot, wherever you at.

[Ish]

But there is a time to leave because some niggas started to catch on. And they'd be outside waiting. They'd be outside waiting. They wait by the fancy cars.

[Ice]

You can feel the energy come. That's when it's time to leave.

[Joe Budden]

Nigga, I leave places like the cloak. Yeah. Batman dropped the shit. The fuck is you talking about?

[Ish]

I saw how you left Starless that day.

[Joe Budden]

Quick smoke bomb, boom. Vamoose. I'm outta here, nigga. I'm through the side, the back door somewhere.

[Ish]

You have to.

[Joe Budden]

In my truck or waiting outside for my truck for the driver to pull up. Did the perfect escape.

[Melissa Ford]

Now it's like, God.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Now I'm just standing outside for 20 minutes. Cause so want to drive slow. You gotta be, dog. It's cool. It's cool. He ain't gonna be happy till I get robbed somewhere. That's when he gonna be happy. And he gonna drive in the whole thing too. He gonna leave. He gonna leave. Oh. Oh, my God.

[Melissa Ford]

What's up, man?

[Ish]

Y'all we good, man. We good. I'm happy.

[Melissa Ford]

Me too.

[Joe Budden]

I'm so washed it up. No, I'd be forgetting this on Friday. God damn it. It's just like a day.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, man, that's some.

[Ice]

It's kind of a good thing, though.

[Parks]

Why? The day is just blending into one another.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Ice]

In a way, it means your life is not very stressful.

[Parks]

Oh, okay. I guess so.

[Ish]

Okay, that's. That's a good way to say is washed up.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Wash is not bad. But it is when you don't want to be washed. You have to accept.

[Melissa Ford]

I like being washed.

[Ish]

You gotta accept the cleaners.

[Ice]

You can just not be washed if you.

[Parks]

Yeah, a regulated nervous system is a good thing.

[Ish]

Y'all took it from 50 year old, y'all. He Talking about young 30 something year olds that like to still go outside.

[Parks]

You know, there is your chronic.

[Joe Budden]

There ain't nobody in this room, y'all.

[Parks]

And then there's your biological age. And I wonder what yours is.

[Melissa Ford]

Ain't nobody in this room, young dog, blow it up.

[Ish]

You know she.

[Joe Budden]

No.

[Ish]

You know what she tried to do?

[Parks]

Yo, stop it right now. Wait till fucking hour two. Okay.

[Ish]

You know what she tried to do.

[Parks]

Just now wait a hour, too.

[Ish]

She tried to sell me Ozemp.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, sh.

[Melissa Ford]

Yo.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Mel, you all right, Mel?

[Ish]

She sat there trying to sell me on something and say I should put y'all on.

[Joe Budden]

Wait a second. Hold on.

[Melissa Ford]

Scheme.

[Ish]

She's.

[Ice]

I wonder what your real age is.

[Parks]

Holy.

[Ice]

They got her.

[Ish]

She said put on.

[Ice]

She's fake pharma.

[Joe Budden]

She pushing the Z now.

[Ish]

She said put them. But I saw ice was over there, but ice too.

[Parks]

Oh, my God, Bin Laden.

[Joe Budden]

Is he telling the truth?

[Parks]

I mean, a version of it.

[Joe Budden]

That means yes. Never met nobody but how did that even come up?

[Parks]

He started saying something about losing weight. I said, you should try Ozempic. I said, it would probably really help you.

[Ish]

She did.

[Parks]

I was like, it has been really stigmatized, but the benefits would be incredible for you. You dropped your cravings, you would lose weight.

[Ice]

Big Head.

[Joe Budden]

Your ass dropped.

[Parks]

Your A1C will go down.

[Joe Budden]

Your ass gonna drop a little bit.

[Parks]

You've been looking at Flip's ass to know where it's been. You're gonna lose some thighs to know where it's been.

[Joe Budden]

You're gonna lose some thighs right here. The low staff ain't gonna hit like it used to. So. Wait, hello?

[Parks]

You talking about Flip or you talking about somebody else?

[Joe Budden]

I'm just talking about some of the symptoms. Just in general, some of the Ozempic symptoms, side effects.

[Parks]

Okay, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Happens like that happens.

[Parks]

So you know what you do.

[Joe Budden]

So if you don't care about your ass sitting where it's supposed to be.

[Parks]

So you know where you know what you do. You're supposed to work out, talk about it, and lift weights while you're doing it.

[Ish]

You can't just take the zimpy and chill in the crib. Yeah, you gonna look like flob. Well, she tried to. She want me put y'all on. So let's have a meeting.

[Ice]

Oh, this is definitely a period.

[Ish]

Support Mel.

[Parks]

Not really.

[Ish]

It's just I think mel got about 500 a pop.

[Joe Budden]

I think Mel is a scam. Scammers is scamming.

[Parks]

I wasn't listening.

[Joe Budden]

What happened to those Disney on Ice booths? You were selling ice.

[Parks]

Did you pay anything for that?

[Joe Budden]

No, no, no, no. He didn't pay anything. But talk to me. Don't talk to Ice.

[Ish]

What happened to that 40 seconds with the tickets?

[Parks]

I did nothing of the sort. I sent Ice his VIP tickets. He walked in, he didn't pay.

[Joe Budden]

No, I know you a scammer. Why you keep talking about Ice?

[Parks]

Because he was fucking there.

[Joe Budden]

Nigga, you was there.

[Parks]

I know I was there week after.

[Joe Budden]

Week after week trying to get people to go selling some shit.

[Ish]

Yeah, man, what were you doing? What was the intricates of that deal?

[Joe Budden]

Cause, hey, what, you had a little. What did you do, girl?

[Parks]

I have a friend that has a box for the season and that's it. He's just like, you can invite whoever you want. Look at the schedule, blah, blah, blah. If the box is open, it's yours.

[Ish]

What did you promise him in return?

[Parks]

I didn't promise a motherfucking thing.

[Melissa Ford]

Not like.

[Ish]

Like it could be a shout Out. That was extremely defensive.

[Joe Budden]

Mighty defensive.

[Ish]

Talk about that he's game. That he's game. You had in just talking about that. Wanted to go.

[Parks]

I got friends in high places. I got friends in high places.

[Ish]

You invite Freeze.

[Joe Budden]

So that made you call Freezer.

[Parks]

Who else was at Disney get a job.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, you and I shut the up for a second.

[Ish]

Okay, Freeze.

[Joe Budden]

So you got a friend that got you to boof connect. Ah, ah, ah. Whenever's available, it's yours, girl. Do what you want.

[Ish]

And you said bet.

[Joe Budden]

Let me call up Freeze. Yeah. Who the fuck do you think you talking.

[Melissa Ford]

It's a kid show and Freeze has four kids.

[Parks]

And I. I asked. I had told. I don't think.

[Joe Budden]

All right, that's true.

[Parks]

Yes, you got it.

[Ish]

You can't argue with your.

[Parks]

And I would tell you, but you don't fucking go nowhere. And you. You wouldn't have accepted the invitation.

[Ish]

No, no. He accepts invitation, but he doesn't go.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, no, he didn't. No, no, no. I'm not gonna accept it.

[Ish]

I accepted and goes to the.

[Parks]

He wouldn't have accepted.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not accepting and I'm not going.

[Parks]

Yeah, all the things.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not going nowhere that Mel invites me. I don't trust Mel to vet.

[Parks]

Okay, that's cool.

[Joe Budden]

I don't trust her to vet the way shit need to be vetted.

[Ish]

Wait, wait. Not in a professional setting though.

[Joe Budden]

Joe, in any setting, did you feel.

[Parks]

Any sense of harm or discomfort? I.

[Melissa Ford]

No.

[Joe Budden]

If I. If I went to that at some point, my brain would say, well, the money had me in the Disney ice skating booth.

[Ice]

There would have definitely been someone to sell you something there.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

No, that's not true.

[Parks]

That is not.

[Melissa Ford]

I gotta defend Mel. That's not true.

[Joe Budden]

But that's defend it in.

[Ish]

Let's go Freeze him.

[Ice]

Not you.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, they have him there to sell.

[Ice]

No, there was someone who tried to sell him something.

[Joe Budden]

Well, yeah, yeah.

[Parks]

There's a distinct chance that everybody there was more concerned with their children having a good time than him showing the up.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, that's what everybody else.

[Parks]

I mean, you're fabulous. Okay, you're fabulous. But, you know, the. The main attraction. Calm down, calm down.

[Joe Budden]

This exactly how she lost the famous battle at the Tank show. Talking to me like this. This is exactly. She was standing there looking stupid in the face while I was taking pictures.

[Parks]

Was I really looking stupid in the face?

[Ish]

So she lost a famous battle.

[Joe Budden]

Of course she did. Who the you think is supposed to win that battle?

[Parks]

Was it really like a famous battle or Is it an approachable battle?

[Joe Budden]

O. Hey, you could twist it however you want to twist.

[Parks]

I will, I will. Just like you do.

[Joe Budden]

It was a famous battle.

[Parks]

Okay, whatever. Whatever makes you happy. Whatever floats.

[Joe Budden]

She lost by a little bit too.

[Parks]

Whatever.

[Ish]

A little bit longer.

[Joe Budden]

She lost by a nice little.

[Parks]

A nice little number floats your boat. Whatever floats your boat. It's okay. Any who's. Any who's is a friend that has a box for the season and says if it's free. Oh, knock yourself out.

[Ish]

Nice.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

At some point we have to start this podcast. I'm just telling y'all, I'm ready.

[Parks]

Yes, we're ready. Let's go.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Ice]

This is more fun than.

[Joe Budden]

That's why I'm chilling.

[Ish]

You always do that though, you know, you see the.

[Melissa Ford]

I don't give a fuck about that.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I'd love to keep talking about Mel scamming.

[Parks]

I'm totally not selling Ozempic. I was just basing.

[Ish]

Too. Yes, I'm get ozipic connect.

[Parks]

I told you. I was just like. You don't even need to connect. Your doctor's the connect. He will take a look at your BMI and put you on.

[Ish]

Why do you think my bm. No, he would not.

[Parks]

I promise you.

[Ish]

I am not borderline diabetic.

[Joe Budden]

Who?

[Parks]

I didn't say that you had to.

[Ish]

Be diabetic as well.

[Parks]

No, you don't. No, you don't. No, you don't. Not to be on a GLP1. Absolutely not. You do not have to be pre diabetic.

[Ish]

Say it again, Corey. That's how the opioids. Yeah. Thank you, Corey child. Good night.

[Parks]

Let me tell you something.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, that is how it is.

[Melissa Ford]

That really is absolutely any reason you went in there. Doctors gonna put you on.

[Parks]

But there's no addiction factor. Yeah, but there isn't.

[Ish]

Have you heard about the side effects of Ozempic melt?

[Parks]

I literally took it for two months last year. Haven't been on it it since.

[Joe Budden]

Mel, you were dying.

[Parks]

I was not dying. What are you talking about?

[Joe Budden]

I feel like dying. You had a tough time, Mel. I don't know who you talking to.

[Ish]

No, she went like this. We watched when you was on Z. That's what you did.

[Joe Budden]

You had a really tough time, girl.

[Ish]

I don't want to stay here.

[Joe Budden]

No, you did you want to.

[Parks]

That's me on a regular date.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, no, no. You was done.

[Ice]

It was extra.

[Joe Budden]

It was really, really bad.

[Parks]

What?

[Joe Budden]

It was really bad.

[Ish]

On the couch. Her stomach hurts. Yes, you fell asleep at work.

[Joe Budden]

All was Up.

[Ice]

He fell asleep right in that seat.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, you.

[Parks]

You was sleeping right over there too. Okay, that's his.

[Melissa Ford]

Come out, come out. Come up behind the tree.

[Ish]

He's going to be so.

[Joe Budden]

I'm just saying. That was disgusting.

[Parks]

I'm just saying. You have a video or a picture of it?

[Joe Budden]

Thank you very much. Hey, Paul, Meet me at the police station, battle to my Xbox. About to buy this Xbox.

[Parks]

I'm just saying there are some serious benefits. Like it lowers inflammation, it helps with joint pain. It lowers your A1C.

[Joe Budden]

You trying to say he inflamed?

[Parks]

I think y'all are. All of y'all are inflamed.

[Ish]

Yes. Not Parks, though.

[Ice]

I don't think I'm inflamed.

[Ish]

Not Parks.

[Parks]

Parks. You're excluded from this conversation.

[Ish]

Okay, what about Corey?

[Parks]

Excluded from the conversation based off of his what? His physique? Yes. He's heavily muscled. He's got. He's very lean.

[Joe Budden]

All Cory do is eat lettuce all day long.

[Parks]

Oh, God forbid he should actually eat something that bends his body. And he eats lettuce.

[Ish]

He walks to the dryer.

[Joe Budden]

That's it.

[Ish]

He washes clothes during the pod. He do pull ups. He just do bullshit that we can't do.

[Joe Budden]

Word.

[Ish]

If we had Corey's freedom, we'll be lean too.

[Parks]

Nigga, you do have Cory's freedom.

[Ish]

Not now.

[Parks]

Here's the fuck you do.

[Joe Budden]

I just ain't gonna keep taking you body shaming niggas. And you not naturally natural.

[Parks]

Holy shit. For two months last year, the shit's not even in my system anymore.

[Joe Budden]

I'm just saying.

[Parks]

She's just jealous. She's jealous.

[Joe Budden]

But wait, I think she looked amazing before.

[Parks]

Ozempic cannot look amazing.

[Joe Budden]

There's never a point where she didn't look amazing. And that's the point. So for her to sit here and say it's not addictive. And I keep seeing people who are not diabetic and not overweight on this.

[Melissa Ford]

Overweight?

[Joe Budden]

The who Was Mel overweight?

[Ish]

No.

[Parks]

Okay, listen, I'm not asking about her.

[Melissa Ford]

That's who. That's what people doing this for, though.

[Joe Budden]

We got that. Was Mel overweight?

[Ice]

No.

[Melissa Ford]

I could say okay to say it. No, no, I'm gonna say no.

[Joe Budden]

I'm ask for honesty on our Dawn Robinson topic. We're gonna be honest.

[Melissa Ford]

Does she feel that she was overweight?

[Parks]

I was. I was. And furthermore, I started. I was experiencing severe joint pain and this was helping me. Let me tell you something. The older that you get, the smaller you want to be you don't want to be carrying around a whole bunch of weight. The older that you get. You are just stressing the fuck out of your fucking joints. You are just. You are willing preventative diseases to just land on you. Like, it's just not a good idea. So I want to be slimmer. I want to be leaner. I want to have lean muscle mass. I want to maintain. Maintain joint strength. I want to maintain strong bone density. Like, that's what I want for my later years. And I'm heading right to them. I'm just being proactive.

[Ish]

Shout out to you.

[Ice]

I think you were on the way to doing all that before the Oz epic.

[Ish]

Appreciate.

[Parks]

I appreciate that, but I've listened. Let me tell. I'm a master of illusion. You guys could not see what I saw, right?

[Ice]

No, that's called bodies to dysmorphia.

[Parks]

I think maybe a little bit, but it's a healthy. It was a healthy dose.

[Ish]

Let's go.

[Parks]

Pause.

[Joe Budden]

Pause.

[Ish]

Let me tell you something. Talk that white shit to her. Talk that white. He talks white, girl. We don't know what that means, but he knows you could get that white shit off. Talk to her.

[Parks]

It was a healthy dose of body dysmorphia that I've carried around for the vast majority of my life.

[Ish]

And you were saying, and you know what's so crazy? The time that I caught you over there and you were complaining about your weight. I said, mel, you look amazing.

[Parks]

Thank you.

[Ish]

Remember, I said, mel, but she just felt like she wanted to get some crazy shit. She was saying, I want to get an extra pudge on it.

[Parks]

I wanted to get muffin top. You literally grab my muffin top at one point.

[Ish]

Did she blame you?

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, yeah, that's on page four.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

He poked. Let the record reflect I do not recall this. Oh, don't worry about it. She got no knowledge of this. Wait, what?

[Parks]

Girl, you poked it.

[Ish]

Hey, yo, Wick. Don't come in here, please. Sh. Wick, don't pop in.

[Joe Budden]

He can't count money no more if it ain't right, it ain't right.

[Melissa Ford]

Set the bag up, drop it right there.

[Ish]

I got these hating on me but I don't give a Because they is waiting on me I'm just counting all this money buying on these hammers so when these play I let my shooters go bananas down and flashing like a camera My whip sound like a monster My bitch got on that shit. She got a million dollars. Somebody call the doctor.

[Joe Budden]

Mike Sha, New York City going on out there.

[Ish]

Wipe my Ass with them.

[Melissa Ford]

With a winner millionaire make Be that if your.

[Joe Budden]

Niggas hating My niggas balling popping pants Counting dollars Buying the Magnum bottles My is patient your is born there that.

[Ish]

Friday night we both woke up that's for me, Carolina. What up, dmv?

[Joe Budden]

What's going on, Florida? What up out there? Shout out to the first and last.

[Ish]

Time listeners Shout out to the hate.

[Joe Budden]

Listeners.

[Ish]

Show money to posits See the shit did not cop it Got by the house Note in my pocket I'm a bitch with that top off Bad bitch and her ass off Something of that catalog she introduced to that lockdown and I think her name was Lisa or maybe it was Sheila My chef is sitting too high I call that West Khalifa and I'm all about that them Franklin ain't talking Aretha my league too major I'm hip hop Derek Cheeto and I'm still feeling my pocket socket Big bas in this knocked up right now Doughboys all over the world Shout.

[Joe Budden]

Out to the entrepreneur.

[Melissa Ford]

Hustle.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God. I think this my melody run.

[Ice]

That'S a little bit after, but.

[Joe Budden]

When this came out. Shout out to the parents Listen to children all over the world but it's different.

[Ish]

Yeah, yeah, that's candy. Shout out to Ross. Yo, his evolution is crazy.

[Joe Budden]

It was a little pretty. Wayne was about to go absolutely stupid just now.

[Melissa Ford]

Yes, he was.

[Ish]

How stupid?

[Joe Budden]

This one Wayne was still. Yeah, man.

[Melissa Ford]

He lost his mind on us.

[Joe Budden]

Wait a minute. Hustle, hustle man is outside this weekend.

[Ish]

Got time to be boxing Got a rib on she the traffic she right and she shopping Young money that's Polo Grilled up like O Chuck Taylor with no nigga Live on Sunday King of Diamonds Monday swagger just dumb call me Kelly Bundy Got a big house with a backyard fish tank with sharks in it Real I'm authentic I the she sharp winding Got a bad who be bartending couple home is that gang bang I get on anybody track and hit that with that Wayne train.

[Joe Budden]

Is a car with this turn right now now turn the volume up on their TV right now.

[Ish]

Coming soon.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God, man. Oh, my Lord. That took classic material right there.

[Ish]

I got a question, too. When we.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God. That was disrespectful. What? He did it. What a promo to everything. What a promo to his album is coming soon.

[Parks]

Wasn't so soon, but.

[Joe Budden]

Mic check, mic check, microphone check. One, two, one, two, one, two, one, two. So happy to be here. I wanted to wait till that applause finished before I did Ish and ice Drop. Because I was just thinking earlier when I was playing it. Listen to this acapella. Neil Ice and Ish. Mm.

[Ice]

Uh huh.

[Ish]

After.

[Joe Budden]

Let's do it one more time. Neil Ice and Ish. Mm. Like she did the. Like. These niggas is sexy. Them niggas is sexy to her.

[Melissa Ford]

Nigga, you just mad. Ain't no joke, Drama.

[Joe Budden]

That.

[Ice]

That's disgusting. That's disgusting hate right there.

[Melissa Ford]

Crazy hate.

[Ice]

That was filthy.

[Joe Budden]

She said that like dumb as the two she was thinking about in that mo.

[Ish]

Shout out to K, man.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, Kiera, I'mma ask you about it when I see you. That is funny. What's up, man?

[Ice]

What's popping?

[Joe Budden]

What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up?

[Ish]

I'm good. What's going on?

[Joe Budden]

How y'all doing? Feeling good.

[Ish]

Can you please, please remind me to ask a question?

[Ice]

Let's intro the pod first.

[Joe Budden]

My memory is horrible. Okay, I have the worst memory.

[Ice]

I got you, I got you.

[Ish]

Yeah, about Wayne. I just wanna ask a question.

[Ice]

I got you.

[Ish]

Both of y'all. Please don't.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, was Wayne.

[Melissa Ford]

No, he was not really Birdman's son.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, was Wayne really the best?

[Ish]

No, no, no, no, no. All right, let's get your depart and I'm asked.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, I got a question.

[Ish]

Don't make fun of your second. Cause you miss your man. You miss your man. Don't stop making fun of me and don't do that, man.

[Joe Budden]

That's how I say I miss you.

[Ish]

All right, let's get to.

[Joe Budden]

I got a question, y'all. Real quick, man.

[Ish]

What episode is this?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, what episode is this?

[Ice]

Welcome to episode 808.

[Joe Budden]

Welcome to episode 808 of the Joe Button podcast podcast.

[Ice]

808, episode 808.

[Ish]

I'm back.

[Joe Budden]

Episode 808. 808 of the Joe Button Podcast brought to you by Fueled by Powered By Prize Picks. Prize picks, gang. I'm your humble, grateful, gracious, happy to be here. Host Joe Button here with some really amazing people to my right. You know the vibes, man. Melissa, Fordy, Hoot. Big queens flip. Big queens get. The money is in the building. The freeziest of them, Big Ice. Huh? Still keeping in touch with the sheriffs from the Xbox purchase? We still talk to them. Say something. Say something. I'll meet y'all at the precinct. Nigga. Yeah, I'm not over there. We gonna fix it.

[Melissa Ford]

Ain't nothing to fix.

[Joe Budden]

We gotta slide on somebody.

[Ice]

Somebody slide it don't gotta be no way. Tough.

[Joe Budden]

We Gotta. Yeah. Throw a Chinese star at somebody.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

You ain't even got to be seen while you're doing something. A water balloon from spit. Water balloon from a tall Bronx building.

[Ish]

He the type of to say meet me at foot. Lock in a man. Listen, go out there, get dirty. Get dirty.

[Joe Budden]

Webster Avenue with some water balloons.

[Ish]

Just get dirty.

[Joe Budden]

You got to get Your not telling.

[Melissa Ford]

Me why though, cuz.

[Ish]

Getting dirty means that you become one with society and you're telling the soil.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm not one with that part of society, fam.

[Ish]

All right, all right. You got some niggas that's one with society in their life.

[Joe Budden]

You got to do it. Your victims create victims.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm not a victim.

[Joe Budden]

But we got to do.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm not a victim though.

[Ish]

That's why I feel like dying.

[Joe Budden]

Victims create victims.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm not a victim.

[Joe Budden]

Then why would you at a police.

[Melissa Ford]

Station to not be a victim?

[Parks]

Smart.

[Melissa Ford]

I'mma fight nigga.

[Ish]

Like you was a truck driver. Freeze. You saw a lot of shit, nigga. You saw lot lizards and all that shit. Would you locked your door when they came to knock on your door there.

[Melissa Ford]

I know what you're talking about. I wasn't over there. I wasn't over there. You got some ass from lot, Liz. I wasn't a road driver, fam. Go ahead, finish intros, man. Yeah, yeah.

[Ish]

Change the subject. Change it quick. I know that lot Liz is the bag, right? In the parking lot, they come knocking. Hey, daddy.

[Joe Budden]

To truck. To truck drivers.

[Melissa Ford]

That's what they do. They walk around to the old parking lot.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, no.

[Ice]

We've talked about that.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. You never did that.

[Melissa Ford]

I wasn't that type of driver. I wasn't in the. I was daily driver.

[Ish]

Did you ever do it though?

[Ice]

You were the hardy type of driver.

[Melissa Ford]

No, that's for the. That's got to park there overnight and all of that. I was just. You go and come back home.

[Joe Budden]

You couldn't get the drive though.

[Melissa Ford]

I never had.

[Joe Budden]

I do that. And I used to do that in a sedan. They could pull over to the little truck stop. Only section B. I barely left Jersey.

[Ish]

And what? Let the massage.

[Joe Budden]

I'm just saying. Take a break. Like that wasn't just for the truck stop. We got a 12, 13 hour drive.

[Ish]

Do you know what lot lizards are? The women that come. The women that come up to the van and sell ass.

[Joe Budden]

I know.

[Ish]

That's what I'm talking about.

[Joe Budden]

We weren't doing that.

[Ice]

Somehow ranked below the Craigslist prostitutes.

[Joe Budden]

He wasn't that type of driver. Because he was there and back. I'm saying you could still stop in that section.

[Ish]

I understand what you're saying.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, yeah.

[Ish]

No, I got it.

[Melissa Ford]

You can still stop.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, you can still stop over there.

[Ish]

Get some rest and get your shit. Get a little coffee.

[Melissa Ford]

I'll get my rest when I clock out. Like, I'm trying to get back so I can.

[Ish]

What's the longest drive you've done in a truck in one day? Yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, no. Two hours.

[Ish]

Oh, so he didn't do the long drive.

[Melissa Ford]

That's what I'm telling.

[Joe Budden]

Y'all is such a good man. That shit is trash sometimes.

[Melissa Ford]

I wasn't no driver.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, but at some point, that shit gotta go out there, the window. No, it don't. Yes, it does.

[Melissa Ford]

No, it don't. Unlearn that hood that's stuck in your brain.

[Joe Budden]

You cannot say that to me.

[Melissa Ford]

Yes, I can.

[Joe Budden]

No, you can.

[Melissa Ford]

Yes, I can. I can listen to the music. The you saying is mentality wise bars. I'm just listening to music. I don't try to live none of that.

[Joe Budden]

A baton, yo, stop. Only. If only I asked.

[Ish]

She got mad last time.

[Joe Budden]

3 to 5 inch metal.

[Ish]

She got mad.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't say nothing.

[Ice]

I think they're plastic.

[Ish]

It was plastic.

[Ice]

Yeah, probably plastic.

[Ish]

That, like. It hurts.

[Melissa Ford]

That was metal, fam.

[Ish]

Yeah, she caught a concussion.

[Joe Budden]

That girl fell out.

[Ice]

She did. The right plastic could do it, though. A little pvc.

[Joe Budden]

The right metal would do it too.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, that was metal.

[Ice]

I don't think it's a lead pipe, though. It's not the heavy, heaviest of. I could be wrong.

[Melissa Ford]

They'll tell us there's some runners out there. They'll let us know. I don't know, man.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, this is my last question on this, and I'm moving on. If you get to the precinct first before the guy with the Xbox, you're not walking in.

[Melissa Ford]

No.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, so what do you do?

[Melissa Ford]

Wait for him. Yo, I'm here.

[Ish]

All right.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm walking in there. All right, bet.

[Joe Budden]

So it's like a halfway crook, cuz you're not going into precinct. You just at the precinct.

[Melissa Ford]

No, you go inside to do the transact. They have signs up, like Internet meetup, Internet transaction sign, right? Yes.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, where, fam?

[Melissa Ford]

In the. Because that was happening so much.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, let me.

[Melissa Ford]

Let me. Let me tell you something. Yeah, I know we joking. And. But because it was happening so much with people doing Internet transactions, getting robbed or. Or fraudulent shit, stuff like that, the police station's like, all right, look, we put spots here you can meet up here. They say Internet meetup because it's cameras now. So in case, you know, this person tried to do some funny. You got some evidence.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, them cops, boy, you know what? I'll tell you, all right, I believe them. Cause them cops is slick. That's like when they started to bring. Bring us your gun.

[Melissa Ford]

No questions asked, we'll buy your gun.

[Joe Budden]

Bring us your gun program.

[Ish]

They locked my cousin up for that stupid shit, bro. My cousin tried to pull that and they tricked him.

[Parks]

Well, did it. Did the gun have body?

[Joe Budden]

I think your cousin did it.

[Ish]

First of all, rest in peace, you bitch ass niggas. Second of all, my cousin tried to pull a move like that.

[Joe Budden]

I never want to hear Mel Ford say that.

[Ish]

When he wanted to sell his gun, he put it under the garbage. He told the police where it was at, and the police locked him up. Up. That don't work.

[Ice]

That was a trick.

[Melissa Ford]

That's not.

[Ish]

Yeah, selling your gun.

[Ice]

You got to put that somewhere.

[Ish]

You bring your gun to the gun. What do you mean you got. How take it to the police?

[Melissa Ford]

You walk in and hand it to them. That's what was doing. Well, that's what they was advertising about. Nobody.

[Ice]

It might have been a scam too. It probably was, but I don't know.

[Melissa Ford]

Nobody that did it.

[Parks]

Usually there's like an exchange, like, you know, like a coupon.

[Ice]

You guys be like, yo, it's at the McDonald's.

[Melissa Ford]

I left the gun over there.

[Joe Budden]

Y.

[Melissa Ford]

Go get.

[Ish]

And he went to get his bread.

[Joe Budden]

Like, cousin. Like, is he innocent?

[Ish]

He's.

[Joe Budden]

He's.

[Ish]

He's passed away.

[Joe Budden]

But was he innocent?

[Ish]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, okay. Rest in peace.

[Ish]

My cousin John. Watch your mouth.

[Joe Budden]

Was John on straight and narrow? I'm just.

[Ice]

Did he go to the police station to sell his.

[Joe Budden]

Sometimes.

[Melissa Ford]

Was he just selling a gun or.

[Joe Budden]

Was he selling evidence? Hey, sometimes we lose people. That was. You know what I mean?

[Ish]

Yeah, well, he self transitioned.

[Joe Budden]

All right.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, good for your ass.

[Ish]

Yeah, it's good for you.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

All right. You hate, like, ooh, like me, right? You ass.

[Joe Budden]

Rest in peace, John.

[Ish]

At the time, I thought it was crazy to try to, you know, get your off and. But how else do you. You. You become afraid to bring it to the precinct?

[Ice]

Sure.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Why the would I bring. I'll do the same. I'll do that same. Yo, it's right there. Put the money down. That shit don't work. So he locked his ass right up. Come here, man. Work that gun. That was tempted in a. I would have Sopranos one Time I had a dirty ass n. I never forget. I said, oh, I didn't do it.

[Joe Budden]

When I was in my 20s and I was in court with Trey, mom fighting for visitation. And. And this is when I first was introduced to this at the precinct concept. It was like, all right, you can have your son on this day pick him up for the precinct. I was like, wait, what? That don't sound healthy at all for my child's state of mind.

[Melissa Ford]

It really don't.

[Joe Budden]

But anyway, that was what it was. I couldn't fight it. So I was picking Trey up from the precinct. Being punctual, nigga, that mean that I'm there at least 15, 20, sometimes 25 minutes just sitting inside a precinct.

[Ice]

That's Joe Budden.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. That's Joe, buddy.

[Ice]

That's crazy.

[Joe Budden]

She ain't give a fuck. She came pulling up mad late. Oh, my God. That being punctual shit. It really bites you in ass sometimes.

[Ice]

It can.

[Joe Budden]

It bites you in the ass. All right, listen, listen. If you are tuning in for the world's shortest Playboi Carti album review, you are in the right fucking place. We got you. Clap it up, Facts. If you are here for an in depth album review of Playboi Carti and the three Kendrick Lamar verses, leave. Yeah, wrong place face.

[Ice]

I did listen to the whole thing.

[Ish]

How was it? I knew it.

[Melissa Ford]

I knew it.

[Ice]

I'm okay. I'm okay with it not being for me.

[Ish]

I never.

[Ice]

I'm okay if I'm too old for it. I'm okay with that.

[Joe Budden]

Why'd you listen to it? Word.

[Melissa Ford]

That's like an hour and plus. And it dropped at 17.

[Joe Budden]

30 joints.

[Ice]

It was 30 joints. There's a couple joints I like on there. The Young Thug record is dope.

[Joe Budden]

There's some.

[Ice]

One of the future records is dope.

[Joe Budden]

I'm talking. But out of what I. I breeze through on the sample, there is some production on it. That's all right.

[Ice]

There's a couple shits on there.

[Joe Budden]

It's him for me. So I can't. I can't listen to it. I wasn't trying to listen to it. That's for the Carti fans. I'm old out of mind. I'm not. The demo for this.

[Ice]

I wasn't like that though, because it's almost like. I equate it to like. As someone who likes rock music, there's a lot of like heavy metal shit. That just ain't for me. It's not because I was Old. I might have been younger than the artist. Artist at the time. It's just not for me. And this is like heavy metal rap to me. It's just.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ice]

It don't in my ears.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. I won't blame it on age. It's just not for me.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Everything and I knew that already.

[Ice]

We don't have. Despite the audience saying that we are. We should be unbiased and should review everything.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm not doing that.

[Ice]

I'm sorry.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm telling you now. I'm not.

[Ice]

I'm sorry. Everything ain't for us. And everything is not going to get a deep that from us.

[Melissa Ford]

Shout outs to the Cardi fans.

[Ice]

Shout out to Cardi.

[Melissa Ford]

Y'all been waiting for this album for years. He's been teasing it back and forth. Pause.

[Joe Budden]

Never thought it was gonna seven years, right?

[Melissa Ford]

It's been a minute.

[Ice]

I think five years.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, four or five years. So I'm. I'm just, you know, happy for y'all. I saw people going crazy. It was funny. I thought he was trolling again when.

[Ice]

He didn't put it out.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

I knew an album had to be coming because he's on a weekend tour.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

So you're not gonna get on that big of a tour with no new music.

[Joe Budden]

Music so true.

[Melissa Ford]

Shout out to him. Yeah, I got it.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ice]

I'm not Even happy the 30 songs in this case. Just because he only put out music every five years, like, that's not the worst thing in the world to me. It's still a long listen. It was hard to like. I just had it on in the background while I was getting ready, eating breakfast, shower and all that. And again, there's a couple records I like on there, but I'm probably not gonna rush back to much of it.

[Joe Budden]

Did you buy it? I did not.

[Ice]

This is a streamer.

[Melissa Ford]

Would you.

[Ice]

This is a streamer. I might buy the couple records I like, though, actually.

[Joe Budden]

Got it. I at least want to hear the best Kendrick verse from this thing.

[Ish]

Do you have the album, Joe? I didn't have.

[Joe Budden]

No.

[Melissa Ford]

I don't.

[Ish]

Listen, I don't know.

[Joe Budden]

I do not have the album. And my oldest son came over yesterday to just vibe and kick it. And I tried to have like a relatable moment. I was like, hey, man, that Cardi. That's it. That's it.

[Ice]

That's what you kids like, right?

[Joe Budden]

I said, oh, you ready for that, Cardi? This. This Friday? Huh? Huh? He said, pop. I don't listen to that. It's not for me. I said, oh, genetics work. You did it right. Genetics work, he said, I'm still listening to Jim Jones. Ah, I love you, buddy. That's my baby.

[Ice]

I could play the. I think good credit is the record that most people are talking about with the Luca bar and all that good crazy.

[Ish]

Now I'm about to apply a Home.

[Melissa Ford]

Depot.

[Ice]

Heavy metal hip hop. You want me go right to the verse?

[Joe Budden]

Yes, yes, please. No, no, for sure.

[Melissa Ford]

Please go straight there.

[Joe Budden]

Respectfully, with all due respect.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, I don't want no smoke.

[Ish]

Wait, who the is this playboy Cardi?

[Joe Budden]

I would have said you too, but you knew that the list was for war.

[Ish]

Okay, have it my way. Like Usher dog. Red blue diamond like Gusher dog.

[Joe Budden]

Upscore on you like Rucker dog.

[Ish]

I'm sore cause I got it out the muscle, dog.

[Ice]

I'm cool, man. I'm okay with this not being for me.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I ain't gonna hold y'all. I don't even want to hear Kendrick. Yeah, I'm good. I'm salute. I'm cool. This is like when they said, if you want to hide something from black people, put it in the book. Yeah, yeah, put it. Put in a Cardi album for me. It's going to miss me. All this ain't bad.

[Ice]

This is the Thug record.

[Joe Budden]

Yo. And. And listen, even the beat on the last joint, like, the production sound like it's kind of all right.

[Ice]

Not for me.

[Melissa Ford]

This ain't that bad.

[Ice]

This is what Thug and Ty.

[Joe Budden]

I'm always like, the Ty$song Le for.

[Ish]

My b a baby.

[Ice]

There's a couple shits on here that's good. But there's a lot of heavy metal.

[Joe Budden]

I'm never going to hear.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, I'm not going to hear none of that, though. Even the one you just played, that's like, all right, it's cool.

[Joe Budden]

I'm still not rushing through.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm not.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not going to have it.

[Melissa Ford]

I will not hear it.

[Joe Budden]

It's not going to be in the phone.

[Melissa Ford]

Not going in my itunes.

[Joe Budden]

There's no I that I'm in where I'm going to look to play that.

[Melissa Ford]

And I don't think I'm going to be anywhere where they're going to play it.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, not at all.

[Ice]

That's a fact.

[Joe Budden]

And I'm trying to, like, respectfully. I don't want that to sound like we saying something.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm not on it.

[Joe Budden]

It's.

[Melissa Ford]

It's just not. It's okay for something not be for you.

[Ice]

I think I went through this same Exact experience five years ago with his last album was like, I got to check it out because everyone's talking about it. I was like, okay, babe, no.

[Joe Budden]

But you know what? You know where I will give him credit? Even though this is not for me, it don't sound like any rap shit that I hear out currently.

[Ice]

Absolutely.

[Joe Budden]

Like, it does sound very unique.

[Ice]

Original. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

And original.

[Ice]

Absolutely.

[Joe Budden]

And that's one of my complaints about just the rappers today. It all sounds like recycled, regurgitated algorithm AI music.

[Ice]

Basically, they just giving you the layup for the AI.

[Joe Budden]

Get some writing camp, AI chat, GPT.

[Ice]

No, they dead ass. Been laying up the AI. If everything sounds the same, why can't we just get a computer to do it?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, you know, they spent a decade.

[Ice]

Just like, oh, we can just make everything easy now so that when we get the computers, no one's gonna be able to tell the difference anyway.

[Joe Budden]

Like, we don't get enough music for the amount of musicians that we have.

[Parks]

Facts.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Like, all week I just be in the crib thinking of artists and how much I miss them.

[Ish]

And that was one of my questions I wanted to ask you.

[Ice]

Oh, you had a Lil Wayne question?

[Ish]

Not about missing them. I was wanting to talk about Lil Wayne's evolution. Right. Like, Drake evolves constantly because he adjusts to the time Wayne. Has Wayne evolution peaked? And does the evolution come or is he trapped by his legacy? Meaning that, you know, the fans expect a certain sound. Is this sound outdated or has evolution peaked? Like, if you look at Jay, Jay keeps evolving. Jay comes back and does music. He sounds good when he does it. His lifestyle also on the front screen or in front of us shows that he's evolving and we wants to follow it. When it comes to Wayne as being one of the greats that changed the game at one point, has his evolution peaked?

[Melissa Ford]

I wouldn't say peaked, but I will say plateaued.

[Ish]

Maybe the better word. Is it stagnant? Is it. When we look at Wayne, Right. Are we looking forward to hear something new from him in the last time? We are.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I am, I am.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm always looking forward to it.

[Ish]

But does this sound just the same? So are you doing it because of what.

[Melissa Ford]

So here's the thing with Wayne. Wayne doesn't. Wayne's not. I mean, he has a couple records where he does it, where he gets vulnerable, gets transparent, tells you about his life, shit like that. But for the most part, Wayne is just rapping Wayne's.

[Ice]

And at a high level.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, no, no, that's not a knock. But What I'm saying is still, absolutely still, He's. He's great at putting words together without saying much if. If that makes sense. Like, huh.

[Ice]

I concur.

[Joe Budden]

And I don't. But I don't have it in me to listen to y'all live just because we're on a podcast today.

[Ish]

But wait, but Joe, Joe, before that.

[Joe Budden]

Joe, wait.

[Melissa Ford]

A lie.

[Ish]

Wait, hold on. Wait, wait. Guys.

[Ice]

Wayne has been absolutely fucking destroying features.

[Ish]

I want to keep. I want to keep up with y'all real quick. Evolution to me. And when I look at.

[Joe Budden]

I want to fight with these niggas.

[Ish]

No, you can't, Joe. But let me just say that.

[Parks]

That.

[Ish]

Just please go ahead. Evolution to me. When I look at Jay, yes, he can rap. He can still rap. But I think his lifestyle surrounding it, the moves that he's making in real life, makes me feel his lyrics reflect.

[Parks]

The growth of his lifestyle. He's no longer rapping about selling drugs and shit like that.

[Ish]

You got it. So he's currently evolving. So what are we looking.

[Melissa Ford]

But that's because Jay always is talking about his life in his raps, even from the selling drugs point. And that's what I'm saying about Wayne. Wayne wasn't really doing that. He wasn't really talking about my life.

[Joe Budden]

The answer to your question is yes. Wayne is peaked. Like, I don't know what they're talking about.

[Ish]

Gotcha.

[Joe Budden]

It's a very quick.

[Ice]

Very quick and simple peak implies it's going down.

[Ish]

No.

[Melissa Ford]

Yes. That's what it means. A plateau means plateau is up and.

[Joe Budden]

You'Re going, let me fight with them. Let me have my fight with them. I don't even think y'all have a foundation to lay this argument. Wayne, we can safely say we've seen the absolute best of. I don't give a fuck if his rhyming improves for the next five and 10 years. That moment in time where what he's doing is in sync with what the people backing him is doing is in sync with how the fans are receiving him, in sync with making his best music. Songs, choruses, performance, performance, Billboard. That has happened already.

[Ice]

I think you're talking.

[Joe Budden]

We're not getting another. That whole entire run. All of the joints that we have. If Wayne go get in the booth 20 times right now, none of that's coming out.

[Ice]

I think that you're talking about.

[Joe Budden]

He's just doing some great rhyming.

[Ice]

I think you're talking about business, and.

[Joe Budden]

I'm talking about artistry.

[Ice]

Yes and no. Because I think that he's still raps at a very high level. I think that the external forces of the label being behind it and being in tune with the times and all that shit. Yes. Maybe that has passed him by and that's fine. I think that his ability to rap is still a plus plus. I don't think that that has. I think it's plateaued your ability to rap and then you keep going.

[Joe Budden]

It's only a certain percentage of your artistry and how it's defined.

[Ice]

Agree. But you.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not questioning his rap skills. When he did the niggas done started something shit a year and a half ago. Anytime he get on something and raps and is focused, he goes. His rap skills will be. And indisputable. I think his peak encapsulates a little more than just that something you forgot. If you send him in the booth 20 times today, 30 times, 40 times, that's not coming out of there.

[Ice]

I disagree.

[Joe Budden]

It was a moment in time.

[Melissa Ford]

I disagree with that.

[Ice]

As do I.

[Ish]

Is that in totality? As far as like what park said label, like what you said label, people behind them.

[Joe Budden]

I think that rapping, I think rap. Yeah. But I think a lot goes into artistry when we talk about it. Right? Like rapping is like riding a bike. For me. It's like you having a jump shot. Ray Allen today could walk on a basketball court and make jump shots.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

That is the ability to rap for rappers at this echelon. Echo echelon, the echelon. The other stuff. Your song making ability, your chorus making ability. How you come off, how you're presenting yourself, how you understand how you adapt all of those other things that you have to have to have the world in the palm of your hands like he did at one point. As you age, that goes away. I think it's natural.

[Melissa Ford]

You know what else sound like the hunger part?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Is he trapped by his cause?

[Melissa Ford]

He might not be trying to do that. That Wayne. Some people get Eminem. Then you get to a point where.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, but then you peeked.

[Melissa Ford]

Well, then you've peaked.

[Joe Budden]

Because if you don't even have the energy in you back to full circle moment to flip. Calling me. Yo, you've been a little low energy. That don't mean I can't do what I do. That just mean I ain't had the energy. Hey, news flash. Part of doing this and being received a certain way is having energy.

[Melissa Ford]

True that. You can get that energy back too and get right back to where you was.

[Joe Budden]

I haven't seen that. And we haven't seen that for a lot of years. True.

[Melissa Ford]

But that does not mean again. Wayne just sold his catalog for a shit ton of money. Wayne has some legal shit that he was dealing. Like that don't mean that he can't do it. It just means he hasn't done it.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not questioning his ability. It's not. Can't. It's not. He is not doing it for whatever the reason. I'm not saying that the man's head that okay, but I think that that's natural. When you talk about the evolution of you're not supposed to still be in.

[Ish]

Vegas, that spot, operating at that.

[Joe Budden]

So you're supposed to even want that same, right. I look at Wayne, I look at Ross, I look at some of these that have battled like real health issues while dominant and be like, wow, yo, they survived that. They alive. They still rocking, doing what they love. You see Ross having a. A money battle with 50. Like, you see niggas is alive, healthy, and doing whatever they want to do, right? That's like a fan conversation to figure out, hey, you think they still got it? You think they still like, if Carter. What Carter is he on right now?

[Ish]

This should be six.

[Ice]

I think that prime, the prime Wayne that we reminisce over and look at with rosy glasses was him destroying features. But they were on big records. I think he's still destroying features. He's just not. Doesn't have the world in the palm of his hands. Like you were saying, saying where every big artist with the big record is going to Wayne for that feature.

[Parks]

What would you guys say is Wayne's magnum opus? You know, there's a project wise. Yes, there's there that's the culmination of.

[Joe Budden]

Like, magnum opus is going to be three. The core is going to say two. Yeah, okay, the core is going to say two. But for the world, it's three. It's three.

[Ish]

So. So.

[Parks]

But wait, my secondary question would be, does he regard that as his magnum opus or does he still feel like he has not made that project that will ultimately define his legacy in a pretty pink bow and he can literally do nothing? Like, after that?

[Joe Budden]

No, I think he 100% feels like he has that project already.

[Ish]

Question, Joe, do you feel like.

[Joe Budden]

And it's two or three.

[Ish]

Do you feel like as fans of these artists from the beginning, and I brought up Jay because Jay is continuing to evolve with his daughter, with Beyonce, they continually to. To take it to different levels when it comes to their life. Do you think that lifestyle wise that plays a part in topeking. Like when you said Wayne is still there. He shouldn't still there. You said something just now stuck where he is. Right. I think you said that. I don't know if I'm quoting you right. But if we look at Jay, Jay could come out and rap. He still can rap, but his overall lifestyle is something that's impressive. Like he continued to grow.

[Melissa Ford]

Jay's Peaked album was.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

But he continues to break boundaries, which doesn't pigeonhole him in a certain category.

[Melissa Ford]

The difference with that is.

[Ish]

So you think Wayne, because when we.

[Melissa Ford]

Look at him, the difference with that is Jay's always been independent in doing partnerships. So he's not tied behind bad contracts and shit like that. He has freedom.

[Ish]

Let's look at Joe real quick.

[Melissa Ford]

That's the difference between where him and Wayne was.

[Joe Budden]

Look at me right after holes.

[Melissa Ford]

Whereas with Wayne was in such a bad position, 3 Wayne was in such a bad position where HOV had to come bail him out.

[Ish]

I understand.

[Melissa Ford]

So it's levels.

[Ice]

I also think we're talking about business versus artistry. Jay Z doesn't continue to make music even at the clip. Wayne isn't super duper active, but he's more active than ho by far.

[Ish]

No, the confusion, what I'm saying, I'm thinking cuz this with the confusion part, that's why I get confused if I look at Joe, right? Joe was still part of Slaughterhouse, but the podcast, if he was a part of Slaughterhouse and he's still raised, but his podcast is successful. To me, Joe didn't peak. He's still evolving because now he has a successful podcast, he's making a lot more money, his lifestyle changes. So when we look at Wayne, we don't really see anything pertaining to his lifestyle. Maybe because he's secretive, we just hear these things. So I'm looking at the overall artist.

[Ice]

He's secretive and he was behind some bad shit, like I said. And that shit will fuck you up for a long time. You were in a bad deal for 20 years. It's gonna take you some time to bounce back. Even if you get everything right. You know how it is already with shit that you've been through.

[Melissa Ford]

But I mean, it takes you a.

[Joe Budden]

While to come back.

[Melissa Ford]

You're saying business wise, Wayne got young money, sports, they got Travis Hunter signed over there who was about to get drafted in this draft coming up.

[Ish]

I didn't know that.

[Melissa Ford]

He's doing things. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So Wayne is doing things outside of Music.

[Ish]

He's just not as it's not broadcasting.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, got it.

[Parks]

And then also, like other projects that you get involved in will incentivize you to want to put all your time and energy into that. Like the example with Joe and the podcast versus Slaughterhouse. If the podcast is paying dividends and Slaughterhouse would require a whole lot of more, you know, more work and effort, but less reward than. Exactly. Then you just. You focus your energy on what's paying you. Paying your bills.

[Ish]

I got it. We got it.

[Ice]

True. Indeed.

[Joe Budden]

Bring it down for man.

[Ish]

You broke it down good, man. That's why I love you, girl.

[Parks]

Well, guess what?

[Joe Budden]

You got Ozempic on you.

[Parks]

I am not a pusher.

[Melissa Ford]

You got that Zimpie.

[Joe Budden]

You got that Zimpy. You're pushing it early to work, trying to push that.

[Melissa Ford]

That's crazy.

[Ish]

I think that is so fly.

[Parks]

It was literally.

[Ish]

I love it.

[Parks]

It was. It was an. It was an organic conversation.

[Ish]

Extremely organic.

[Parks]

Where flip.

[Ice]

See, this is good. Big pharma marketing. Throw words like organic into it.

[Parks]

Listen, if I'm a. If I'm going to be pushing a project or product, I'm gonna be pushing like a libido enhancing drug for women. That's what the fuck I'll be pushing.

[Ish]

Yo, man, what's up with this libido shit? Like, you good, Mel?

[Parks]

No, I'm straight. I'm straight.

[Ish]

Libido is that shit down there that make it water. Like, what's. Like, what's.

[Parks]

We all have libidos.

[Ish]

Oh, my fault.

[Joe Budden]

We all have libido is when your clit is hanging over your shit.

[Ish]

Oh, the bat wings. The bat wings.

[Joe Budden]

The bat wing. Yeah, like a kite. Yeah, like beat. Libido is when they clitorises is the.

[Ish]

Moth that drags dude.

[Parks]

Beef curtains, right?

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

There you go.

[Parks]

There you go. Guess what, guess what. Guess what time it is.

[Joe Budden]

You ever eat with one of them shits?

[Ice]

Yeah, for sure. Absolutely.

[Melissa Ford]

Yes.

[Ish]

That in the back of your throat.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God. Whoa, whoa, whoa. That was something different.

[Ish]

No pause. Be hanging pause.

[Melissa Ford]

That don't stop no show.

[Ish]

I know, of course. Cause you a freak.

[Joe Budden]

That is like a rooster neck turkey.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

You know the. I'm talking about.

[Melissa Ford]

Gobble, gobble.

[Joe Budden]

Holy. Oh, my God, you heathens.

[Melissa Ford]

Y'all nasty.

[Joe Budden]

Anyway, anyway. Yeah, let's not give him page nine of the soup. Libido.

[Parks]

I'm trying to lead you to the promised land right now.

[Ice]

That's true.

[Joe Budden]

She is. I'm uncomfortable.

[Ice]

No, no, no.

[Parks]

Literally paying our bills. Motherfucker is our Favorite part of the show. Prize picks.

[Joe Budden]

I got a girl. I'm trying to lead you to the promised land. Oh, yes. It's my favorite time. It's my favorite part of the show. Stop. I'm not giving you nothing.

[Ish]

Wait.

[Joe Budden]

Don't try to help me.

[Ish]

I ain't going.

[Joe Budden]

She killing.

[Ish]

She be selling, too. Favorite part of the show.

[Melissa Ford]

About to be in the next commercial.

[Ice]

If she.

[Ish]

If she in the next commercial, she gonna act way more bougie than she act now.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, yeah.

[Ish]

She probably ain't gonna say hello to.

[Joe Budden]

She just gonna walk in and sit down.

[Ish]

You ready, Joe?

[Parks]

Yep.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, she gonna be like Grandma Ruby Rose robes. Like Grandma Rose.

[Parks]

Hater.

[Ish]

Yo, man, I got a question real quick before prospects. Like what? You. Who be putting you on to your sneaker? Your sneaker game be up.

[Joe Budden]

Them shit's fire.

[Ice]

I like them shoes.

[Melissa Ford]

Them shits is fire.

[Parks]

Thank you.

[Melissa Ford]

I was the one compliment on them. All right.

[Joe Budden]

I thought they was cute.

[Parks]

Thank you.

[Ish]

I don't like them.

[Joe Budden]

I did. Okay, whatever they are, they do look cute.

[Parks]

Appreciate that.

[Ish]

They look good, but the colors look good.

[Parks]

I'm doing my best. I'm not a sneaker head. I never ever have been talk to one of them.

[Ish]

I've been trying to put you on to some young. Get up with FAO and them. Let them put you on. Come here with some nice. Yo.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Ish]

You got those for free.

[Parks]

No, I did not.

[Ish]

Where did you buy them from? Foot Locker?

[Parks]

I don't remember. It was a while ago.

[Ish]

Got it?

[Parks]

I promise. I don't remember, but yeah. Thank you.

[Joe Budden]

It's over, bro. It's over.

[Ish]

I want my sister. Have some good sneaks.

[Joe Budden]

Yo. You got. She chilling.

[Melissa Ford]

Those are fire.

[Ice]

My bad, though.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, she killing.

[Ish]

Cause y'all old, nigga. Yeah, that might be like clouds. Let me see. I'm perfectly fine with being old.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I'm perfectly fine with that.

[Ish]

Shout out to you, man.

[Parks]

Same, same.

[Joe Budden]

Okay. Also, Melon's absolutely right. It's time for our favorite part of the show, Prize Picks. All right. Prize Picks is the best place to get real money sports action. With over 10 million members and billions of dollars in awarded winning Prize Picks has made daily fantasy sports accessible to all really easy and simple to play. All you have to do is pick more or less than at least two players for a chance to win up to 1000 times your money. So run your game all season long with Prize Picks. All right. Give it to me. Give it to me. What we got? What we got? What we got? Karl Anthony Towns. I Was two, three points away from hitting a lick on my last one.

[Ish]

Want.

[Joe Budden]

All right, let's do it.

[Melissa Ford]

We got. We got Paces and bucks.

[Joe Budden]

Ew. Get that out of here.

[Melissa Ford]

You want that one?

[Joe Budden]

Too ugly.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay. Okay.

[Joe Budden]

It's too small market for me. Yeah. Shout out to the small markets out there.

[Melissa Ford]

Bulls and Rockets. It's not a small market.

[Joe Budden]

I don't love it.

[Melissa Ford]

Don't love it either.

[Joe Budden]

I don't love it. I don't love it.

[Melissa Ford]

Celtics and nets.

[Joe Budden]

All right, Celtics and Nets. Peyton Pritchard is my Michael Jordan. My white Jordan. Give me Tatum. Give me Tatum. For more than 21 in that. And who is on the nets? Who's on the nets? That's a good question. Campaign still on the nets.

[Melissa Ford]

I don't even know who's on the nets.

[Joe Budden]

All right, keep going. Next game. That's crazy, bro. Some New Jersey representatives we are.

[Melissa Ford]

Hey, listen, they took the net, so I don't watch them.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah, it's Brooklyn now.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, That's Brooklyn.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

OKC and the Pistons.

[Joe Budden]

All right, give me SGA. More than 24 points. Give me Cade for more than seven assists. All right.

[Melissa Ford]

And Knicks and Warriors.

[Joe Budden]

That's it. It's a road game.

[Melissa Ford]

It is a road game.

[Joe Budden]

Game. It's a road game. Cuz we got clipped in the garden and we don't have Jaylen Brunson. And they got Kaminga back. I don't know if he's back for this game, but he's supposed to be back soon. Give me Steph. I don't even really need no more. The three is fine, but give me Steph for more than 23.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I'm cool. We good? I'm cool with that.

[Melissa Ford]

Let's see how you do.

[Joe Budden]

Damn, that's a nasty Knicks game. Nasty. Next game right there. If you download the app right this second and use promo code J, JBP, you get $50 instantly. And when you play your first $5 lineup, I repeat, if you download the app right this second and use promo code JBP, you get $50 instantly when you play your first $5 lineup. So good luck to all participants out there and run your game. All right? We have a slew of topics that are straight from Mel's brain. Indeed. I'm ready to get them all out of the way in the next 30 minutes. Let's do it, Mel.

[Parks]

Let's go, Mel. It's a light, light news week, but Dawn Richards, who was one of the founding members of En Vogue, who left the group and then went To Lucy Pearl with Rafael Siddiq was videotaped. Well, she was videotaping herself in her car, and she basically said that she has been living in her car for the last three years. And, well, let's just say that, you know, people had a lot to say. Jermaine Dupri jumped into the conversation. But, you know, we can play the clip that we have where she. Where she was talking about living in her car. The first thing that I noticed was her fresh blowout in her nails. That was what I noticed was her hair was looking real good.

[Melissa Ford]

You wanna be fucked up?

[Parks]

No, not necessarily.

[Ish]

But then.

[Parks]

But then she also mentioned manager and assistant. I was like, girl, I don't even have a assistant.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, you do.

[Ish]

The free ones.

[Joe Budden]

You got a few. You got a few assistants.

[Melissa Ford]

You really know.

[Joe Budden]

You don't.

[Parks]

It just. It was just a strange kind of.

[Ish]

It just.

[Parks]

A lot of it just didn't track. It was just really, really strange. So people were just kind of debating this, you guys. For the past three, almost three years, I have been living in my car. I said it. Oh, my God, it's out. Been living in my car. Oh, my gosh. If you remember, if you guys were with me, what, in 2020, I did no Joe Button interviews. And in the interim, I was living with my parents in Vegas. And that was wonderful. Until it wasn't. I love my mom, but she. She became very angry, and a lot of her anger she was taking out on me, and I was her target all the time. And I was like, I can't deal with this. Like, I respect her too much.

[Joe Budden]

Let me get out of here.

[Parks]

And so I was like, okay. He's like, I don't have a lot of room, but I'll make room for you. And then when I got to his place, he actually didn't have room for me.

[Joe Budden]

I just fast forwarded.

[Parks]

It turned into, okay, well, I'm going to put you in a hotel for the night. And that one night turned into to eight months.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God, you guys.

[Parks]

Because every apartment looked at.

[Joe Budden]

I can't, I can't.

[Ish]

I can't.

[Joe Budden]

I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[Parks]

All right.

[Joe Budden]

I'm sorry.

[Melissa Ford]

What kind of car she got?

[Joe Budden]

I'm sorry. Important question. I can't.

[Parks]

Don't know.

[Melissa Ford]

Some of these shits got some room in them.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Don't know, but yeah.

[Joe Budden]

And in Jermaine Dupree's response, I came into the league. He was saying, let's see, was her choice to be in the car.

[Ish]

I saw somebody Send a message to.

[Joe Budden]

Say, jermaine, Monica, all of y'all, can.

[Melissa Ford]

Y'All put some money together to help dawn out?

[Ish]

From my understanding, for her to speak.

[Joe Budden]

On it, the way she spoke on.

[Ish]

It, she was basically saying that she saw other people living in their vans, living in RVs, and she welcomed the idea of doing this. Somebody said her choice or limited options was her choice to be in the car. I saw somebody send a message and.

[Joe Budden]

Say, jermaine, Monica, all of y'all, can.

[Melissa Ford]

Y'All put some money together to help dawn out?

[Ish]

From my understanding, for her to speak.

[Joe Budden]

On it, the way she spoke on.

[Ish]

It, she was basically saying that she saw other people living in their vans, living in RVs, and she welcomed the idea of doing this.

[Ice]

Okay.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah.

[Parks]

He's not wrong. She made it sound like it was something that. Like that it was. There was an appeal to it versus staying with her mom.

[Joe Budden]

What do you think, though?

[Ish]

There was an appeal to it.

[Joe Budden]

Hold up. What do you think?

[Parks]

Absolutely not.

[Joe Budden]

What do you think?

[Parks]

What do I think?

[Joe Budden]

What do you think about it? About it? I'm giving you the Runway to lead with what your thoughts are about this situation.

[Parks]

I do not know the woman, so it's really hard to. I really feel uncomfortable passing judgment. However. However.

[Ice]

But I will.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah.

[Ice]

Here we go.

[Joe Budden]

Here we go.

[Melissa Ford]

Here we go.

[Parks]

However, it has been long rumored that she's been the problem.

[Joe Budden]

Walk the dog. There you go. There you go.

[Parks]

You talking once a time.

[Joe Budden]

This is what I'm talking about.

[Ish]

As far as the problems in any.

[Joe Budden]

Situation that she know you preaching right now. Go ahead.

[Parks]

Yes, yes. I mean, like, you know, when it came to En Vogue, all of the ladies are wildly talented. Like, wildly talented, the founding members. But then.

[Joe Budden]

Let's get to the bad part.

[Parks]

But then suddenly, she was out of the group, and the rumors was that she was extremely difficult to work with. So then she ends up in Lucy Pearl with Rafael Sadiq. Similar story follows her departure. Okay, and now we see En Vogue, who's been touring forever. Like, they never stop making music or touring or whatever the case is. And it would. The logical situation would be like, well, why don't you just kind of like, you know, tuck your tail and go back to the group and tour? Because, I mean, who. Who wouldn't want to see the founding members of En Vogue?

[Ish]

We all would.

[Parks]

If you're fans, that's what you want to see. So it's just like. So there must be something preventing you from doing that. And it might be you. Yeah, it might be the bad taste that you left in their. In their mouth.

[Ish]

What do you think that.

[Joe Budden]

Hold up, man. Let me hit the round for my girl Mel with a take. She. She didn't run from it. No, she said. She said what we all were thinking.

[Ish]

Speaking, Melissa.

[Parks]

Yeah. Oh, my God, here we go.

[Joe Budden]

What do you think?

[Parks]

He's sitting in Ish's seat.

[Ish]

What do you think the advantages are of living in a car?

[Joe Budden]

No, hold up. We not there yet. We not there yet. Let's leave the light right where Mel Ford shined it at for two seconds.

[Ish]

Let's do it.

[Joe Budden]

I know it is not the favorable thing to say. It could be viewed in bad taste without tact, without couth to say it. You guys, even. It's so bad to say that even in the comments online, you can't say it.

[Ish]

Not at all.

[Joe Budden]

So we'll say it.

[Ish]

Let's do it.

[Joe Budden]

And Jermaine Debris was trying to say it, but he's too cool and classy, so he wouldn't say it. But I heard it still.

[Ish]

And we will say it.

[Melissa Ford]

We gonna say it.

[Ish]

Let him have it.

[Joe Budden]

Even Mel, classiest as they come. Super Class couldn't restrain herself at all from kind of alluding to it. But we will say we gonna say it.

[Ish]

Let's talk about it pretty.

[Joe Budden]

Sometimes you see clips of bitches after you've heard some shit about said bitches.

[Ish]

And you be like, yo, I could see that.

[Melissa Ford]

That tracks.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, this bitch is off.

[Ish]

Yeah, you need to go to the psych ward.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, Don Richardson. And finally, remember at the All Star Weekend and Vogue came out, I was like, I want to know if that's all in Vogue. Was that Dawn? Because I know dawn has some shit going on. And now, my God, it's so great.

[Melissa Ford]

He answered it.

[Joe Budden]

That dawn popped up in a Civic or some shit and taped and told.

[Ice]

Us, hopefully it's not a Civic. Wait, hopefully it's a hatchback.

[Joe Budden]

But wait, whatever it is, Station Wagon. Jermaine Dupree said, no, that was her idea. Like she wanted to go and live there. She said, ah, I said it.

[Ish]

I said it.

[Melissa Ford]

I said it.

[Ish]

I don't even think she recorded from iPhone.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, I remember I was one of the people looking for Lucy Pearl's sophomore album, all of Us were.

[Parks]

The first one was Fire.

[Joe Budden]

And they told me what kind of happened a little bit. I just never seen nothing to say that tracks. But if you watch this Dawn Richardson video, it tracks. She is just. She. Look, I don't know. I don't know. Let me Have a little bit of cool. But she look like she is a few fucking lights short of a low. Yo, you stupid.

[Parks]

Two sandwiches short of a low.

[Joe Budden]

She look like a few bulbs short of a chandelier. Even her little plan.

[Melissa Ford]

I met this guy.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, take care of me. And I went there and he did it.

[Ish]

It's like cuz he realized she escaped from Bellevue.

[Melissa Ford]

No, no, he realized she escaped from.

[Ish]

She escaped from Bellevue.

[Joe Budden]

Dawn, we love. We love you, girl.

[Ish]

We love you, doggy.

[Joe Budden]

You are in our prayers for sure.

[Parks]

For real. But you might need some help. Accountability, no?

[Joe Budden]

Well, slow down now because.

[Ish]

Oh, no, nigga, these do be. These niggas will fuck your life up.

[Joe Budden]

Well, I don't want to be too hard on her.

[Parks]

Let's backtrack.

[Joe Budden]

Cause these were the exact types of women that we preyed on.

[Melissa Ford]

Yo, that's what homeboy did, I'm telling you.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I don't want to put this all on her.

[Ish]

You get the crib in their name? Yeah. You get the will?

[Joe Budden]

You get the will?

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, what? You live where? Oh, come with me.

[Ish]

Hail Mary.

[Joe Budden]

What you doing tonight? Oh, you just in the civic, Chilling. Come through.

[Melissa Ford]

Come through.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Any plan of work? Drink coffee, a pizza date, ice cream.

[Melissa Ford]

Shower date, Move movie.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, you want a full course meal? You want a meal? Some chicken, like baked, like you want.

[Melissa Ford]

To sleep laying down.

[Joe Budden]

Homeless people don't get baked chicken. You want baked chicken? You got to offer some.

[Parks]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ish]

Up to say, man.

[Parks]

I mean, before. Before eating.

[Joe Budden]

Sister?

[Parks]

No, I don't really know. I don't know anything about her personal life.

[Joe Budden]

Anybody that was lit in the 80s and 90s, I put right with, man. I got a jack.

[Parks]

80S.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know.

[Parks]

I was a child in the 80s. I wasn't here in the 90s. So.

[Ish]

But you was popping in Canada.

[Joe Budden]

It was 1889. How old you was?

[Parks]

You said 1889. You.

[Joe Budden]

You was 14.

[Parks]

What?

[Ish]

89.

[Parks]

1989.

[Joe Budden]

In 89, how old were you?

[Parks]

I have a late birthday, so. 1989.

[Joe Budden]

All right, all right, never mind, never mind. Have a late birthday.

[Ice]

Have a late birthday.

[Joe Budden]

That used to me up too.

[Ish]

We shouldn't make fun. I mean, you know, she trying to. She on her mail. Just trying to save money by living in the car?

[Parks]

No, you don't live in the car.

[Ish]

She trying to save the bread.

[Ice]

Her ig page is nuts.

[Joe Budden]

Who doing people. What's on there?

[Ice]

It's just nothing but like meme. Like, you know, like the memes that you see that people shared from like old like, them shits, like, old.

[Parks]

Like, from early Instagram, like, 2000 on.

[Joe Budden]

We love you, girl.

[Ish]

Get help. Yo, somebody help.

[Joe Budden]

Call involved.

[Parks]

And then just to go back page the manager and assistant situation and the full doobie and the nails. I. I'm so. I am confusion. I'm. I'm confusion. I don't.

[Melissa Ford]

Ain't nothing to be confused about. I'm living in my car. I don't have no address. Y'all can't mail me none of that.

[Parks]

Okay?

[Ish]

You just run for the people. The feds can't get up. IRS can't get up.

[Melissa Ford]

Y'all talking about.

[Ish]

That's Mailbag. I moved to New York. They can't find.

[Parks]

Shut up.

[Joe Budden]

I'm just talking about how she even just spoke in a camera. She just didn't sound.

[Ish]

No, she didn't sound sound.

[Joe Budden]

She didn't sound.

[Ish]

She didn't sound too well.

[Parks]

Yeah, yeah, it was.

[Joe Budden]

I know we'd be rooting for people on.

[Ish]

But you know what, though?

[Parks]

These.

[Ish]

These. These type of moves is what help is the outrage from the people making her help.

[Joe Budden]

Remember Wendy did the Breakfast Club, and everybody was like, she sounds like herself again. Yay. Remember, it was recent.

[Ish]

Yeah, that was recent. We did hear that. Your mind. Your mind up.

[Joe Budden]

You.

[Ish]

You think. How many years ago you thought that was? That was just recent.

[Melissa Ford]

No, I don't. What he said.

[Ish]

I know what he said. I know he said.

[Melissa Ford]

That's just respect.

[Ice]

Respect.

[Ish]

That's still Wendy Jersey respect.

[Joe Budden]

Respect. There's nobody with bigger Wendy Williams pom poms than me.

[Ish]

I know.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, I still. My brain just still worked a little bit, so. The Internet be wrong a lot, man. I ain't gonna lie.

[Ish]

But even if she's not okay. Right?

[Joe Budden]

We shouldn't say that.

[Ish]

No, no, we should say it. And by us hearing that, she cool now.

[Joe Budden]

She passed the test. She passed the psych eval.

[Ish]

There we go.

[Joe Budden]

So let's not not confuse the jokes with real life. She passed. She got that rocking over there. But after the Breakfast Club interview, when the Internet was like, oh, she sounds great again. Yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

See, there's nothing wrong. Look.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. You just don't know.

[Ish]

Sometimes I get her money back.

[Joe Budden]

Dawn Robinson, girl.

[Ish]

Not Richardson.

[Joe Budden]

Dawn. Rob. I mean, Richardson. Dawn Richardson. Are you shitting me? How fine Dawn Richardson been her whole damn life to end up in the car? It be the fine one ones that when they get old, when they get older, they be. They just get.

[Ish]

They just do whatever.

[Joe Budden]

Get a dog Robinson, by the way, and a wrangler.

[Ish]

It's Robinson.

[Joe Budden]

Shut the fuck up. Wranglers Club.

[Ish]

Dawn Richardson and friends.

[Joe Budden]

When I said Robinson, I'm thinking of Holly Robinson from all the 21 don.

[Parks]

Robinson. Robinson.

[Ish]

Sorry, it is Robinson. Don Richardson is from Danity Kane, man.

[Parks]

Sorry.

[Ish]

Why the fuck would you put that up there? That girl is in a case.

[Parks]

You knew what I was talking about. We're not even paying attention.

[Joe Budden]

Dawn, we love you. Oh, shit. And we hope that shit gets better.

[Parks]

If you want it to.

[Joe Budden]

If you want it to get better.

[Parks]

You seem happy in the car.

[Joe Budden]

Come live with Mel.

[Ish]

Come live with Corey.

[Parks]

No, no, no, no. I don't have space.

[Ish]

Yo, Dawn. Corey got some space.

[Parks]

Cory got the space.

[Joe Budden]

You ever get a hold of just two roommate chicks that just didn't know what to do in life? Like you could just knock on their door and just have your way.

[Ish]

What are you doing? I know that.

[Joe Budden]

I'm serious.

[Ish]

We can't. We can't shout.

[Joe Budden]

You ever get two roommate chicks where there's no clear leader? They both are just discombobulated.

[Melissa Ford]

They just.

[Joe Budden]

They have no idea. Oh, my.

[Ice]

Living off 5, usually.

[Melissa Ford]

One of them got some crystals somewhere, too.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, for sure. Living off vibes.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, that is the greatest. That is the greatest. Oh, that was.

[Ice]

I got a couple cats out of the situation.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, y'all are so dumb.

[Melissa Ford]

It's good times.

[Joe Budden]

All right, man.

[Ish]

That's how Charles Manson got his off. I was watching that documentary on Netflix.

[Ice]

There's a new one.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ice]

They gotta stop making the same docs over and over.

[Parks]

They really do. I. I love so I Am Charles Manson doc.

[Ish]

That should look good to me.

[Ice]

O.J. yeah, Manson.

[Parks]

And he got his Dahmer.

[Ice]

Dahmer.

[Parks]

Menendez.

[Ice]

Menendez. All good.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. We need more killers.

[Ish]

They still got.

[Parks]

They still got so many more that they can.

[Ish]

They still got Steve Avery locked up, so you got to free him, right?

[Parks]

Oh, he's still locked up.

[Joe Budden]

Jeez.

[Ice]

They let homeboy from the cereal out, I think, though.

[Parks]

Adnan Syed.

[Joe Budden]

See, that is a gift. What you do? She know Ad Nan Fire.

[Ish]

They let him out. The one that was accused of killing his girlfriend, right?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Asian girl.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Ish]

At least it worked.

[Joe Budden]

Come on, let's get back to our male topics.

[Parks]

Let's do it. Okay, so what? We close that out, we're done?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, we're done. If she need. We're done with dawn until she get a month and a half security.

[Melissa Ford]

Somebody got a month and a half for D fee. Somebody got a month for Dawn.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, and the pet fee.

[Ish]

Yeah, I know what that come with and the pet.

[Ice]

She got a pet living in that car?

[Ish]

You want to live here? She get to work.

[Ice]

What kind of pet do you think she got?

[Ish]

Jabba jaw.

[Ice]

What kind of pet you think she got?

[Joe Budden]

Probably some ball cats, birds. Like, I used to do this. She got some ice.

[Ice]

Them bald cats expensive.

[Joe Budden]

She got some ice.

[Melissa Ford]

She ain't got no bald cat.

[Ish]

Nah, her cat ain't bald. That like a zoo while you living in the car? She don't got a razor no way.

[Ice]

Damn sure can't n in there.

[Ish]

She can't n. Oh, Aisha Diaz really.

[Joe Budden]

Loved her bald cats too. Anytime you seen her in person, like, she really wanted to talk about them while he was trying to.

[Parks]

They are great cats. Sphinx cats. They're so amazing. They're so sweet and affectionate.

[Joe Budden]

Point proven.

[Ish]

I really.

[Parks]

I want one too.

[Ish]

We care about the other cat.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I'm sorry.

[Ish]

Not to be all the way bald, but you know, we care about the other cat.

[Parks]

All right, all right, all right.

[Ish]

Ugly ass wrinkle cats. Get the. The out my.

[Joe Budden]

They be dead ass. Like you have to catch one of them bad chicks that you ain't supposed to in a while and you call them and they pet just died like two weeks ago. It's a whole different world. They like psych patients.

[Melissa Ford]

You like mine even calling. Talk about none of this.

[Joe Budden]

I'm here for a phone jerk like, leave her alone. They on the phone. Man say, oh, Scruffy.

[Parks]

How were you when your pets passed away?

[Joe Budden]

Mister, can you stop stepping on fun? Sorry. Can you stop backing up the fun?

[Parks]

Sorry.

[Ish]

That means a lot to me.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, yo, N, what's going on? My dick rock right now. I didn't even see him coming.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, I'm trying to come though.

[Joe Budden]

What's up, dog?

[Ish]

The cat is 30 years old.

[Joe Budden]

I took him to the hospital. Oh, Scruffy, how could you leave me like that?

[Melissa Ford]

Then you try to steal the combo back. Damn, that's crazy.

[Joe Budden]

I tried to get the nut off mad chicks who just lost Scruffy. I ain't gonna lie. Don't know my way weird. Like weird ass bitch for morning. Oh, man. Scruffy, wait. Joe, what was it like when you lost your dog? I'm trying them. I'm trying to get one. If only I had a 3 to 5 inch metal object.

[Ish]

What are you doing?

[Melissa Ford]

See?

[Parks]

Look at him. Digging a hole.

[Ish]

You know, she gets some said about that.

[Parks]

Digging a hole.

[Joe Budden]

Meanwhile, you ever go see what your ex is doing on Only Fans?

[Ice]

No, I don't have Only Fans.

[Ish]

No, we know you do, though.

[Joe Budden]

They lying.

[Ish]

We know you do. You support.

[Melissa Ford]

Wait a minute.

[Joe Budden]

Wait. I know you ain't trying to be down with park boy.

[Melissa Ford]

No, no, I do have a fix it up. I forgot. I forgot.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, you better fix it.

[Melissa Ford]

She got only fans.

[Ish]

You talk how many ex have only fans?

[Joe Budden]

Parks have someone only fans, too. If they was out of the. Yo, the rehab, wherever they be going.

[Ice]

Yo, not any better, but a little bit better. A little bit better.

[Ish]

I'll take.

[Joe Budden]

Is in the clinic trying to get healthy again. Park went and got married. Yeah, y. Yo, you can't do that. That's crazy. Yo, Parks, you.

[Ish]

You dropping crazy like that.

[Joe Budden]

No, you can't go get married after you do that. I would shoot Parks.

[Ish]

Parks.

[Joe Budden]

I would shoot the out of him.

[Ish]

You left you.

[Ice]

Kevin want to speak so.

[Parks]

Pew pew.

[Ish]

You left your ex in the clinic?

[Melissa Ford]

No.

[Ish]

All right, sure.

[Melissa Ford]

She went a little.

[Ish]

She went to rehab.

[Melissa Ford]

She went a little crazy afterwards.

[Ice]

Moving on to the next male topic.

[Joe Budden]

Moving right on this dog parlor, man.

[Parks]

Now, no dog pile on. Okay?

[Melissa Ford]

So you. You asked us the question. You ever go check and see what your ex is doing?

[Ish]

How many exes you have on only fans? Some of you, my man. Some of them, you. You choosing right? You choose. I know he talk them. Don't be looking wash.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know. Yo, you so dumb. Leave me alone.

[Ish]

No, I got to say it.

[Joe Budden]

Leave me alone. Your choice of the unsubscribe.

[Ish]

You're picking a little belittle lit.

[Joe Budden]

Unsubscribe.

[Parks]

Which one are you talking?

[Ish]

You got the fancy litter, too.

[Joe Budden]

Messy boots. Look at messy boots.

[Ish]

One of them. One of them look a little bit. You know, she like. She a little bit ate a couple of donuts, but. But still ain't taking up nothing from her.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, put a beep through this one. You need to change your dam link tree.

[Parks]

Oh, mine's gone.

[Ish]

Change her family.

[Joe Budden]

Just check. Two weeks ago.

[Parks]

It's gone.

[Joe Budden]

It was there.

[Parks]

Look at it.

[Joe Budden]

All right, right. I was like, man, I don't give a When you.

[Ish]

You mean the foot you was doing.

[Parks]

Moving right along.

[Ish]

She was doing.

[Parks]

Moving right. The.

[Ish]

She was doing. Hey, cake. I got some cake. She was stepping on cake.

[Ice]

You were not stepping on cake.

[Parks]

Shaming. Stop shaming guys who like.

[Joe Budden]

That's king shaming.

[Parks]

That's Kingston.

[Ish]

You don't have two coins on your feet. You owe. It's a thousand dollars.

[Parks]

I do not.

[Ish]

You owe Ish and me a thousand dollars.

[Parks]

I do not.

[Joe Budden]

That was subscribed to you.

[Ish]

I got Ugly ass feet.

[Parks]

I do not. My feet are cute.

[Joe Budden]

As ugly for you reaching right now.

[Parks]

Stop. My feet are cute.

[Ish]

Mel.

[Parks]

There's a page is devoted to my feet.

[Ish]

Let's go, Mel. Let's go.

[Parks]

Okay. They are cute. They don't hang over the edge of high heels.

[Joe Budden]

And then our next male topic.

[Parks]

All right. Get the round of applause going for the next topic.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Parks]

Oh, we are going to congratulate Zendaya for. For being the first black woman to make $1 million an episode for the next season of Euphoria.

[Joe Budden]

Ain't this the girl that said she wasn't black?

[Parks]

No.

[Joe Budden]

Who? The girl says she wasn't black.

[Parks]

I don't know who you're thinking about right now.

[Melissa Ford]

Zoe Zana.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, okay. All right, Round of. I'm like, wait, I be confused.

[Parks]

Z is this.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Parks]

Z is this her family?

[Joe Budden]

Black as black power.

[Parks]

Yeah, she.

[Melissa Ford]

She.

[Ish]

She.

[Joe Budden]

I'm just checking.

[Melissa Ford]

Saw the video of her and. What's Spider Man?

[Ish]

Yeah, Spider man at Holland.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

At the family.

[Melissa Ford]

Her family is.

[Ish]

Yeah, I saw that.

[Melissa Ford]

She don't look like it, but I was like, what the. So, yeah, she. They. Black.

[Ish]

Black. Shout to s. Got it.

[Parks]

Yeah, yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

Million dollars episode. That's lit.

[Parks]

That's incredible.

[Ice]

I don't know how they're gonna do the show.

[Parks]

Well, I mean, the show's fucking wildly popular.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ice]

But without homeboy. Rest in peace.

[Parks]

Oh, well, we shall see.

[Joe Budden]

Amanda.

[Parks]

I know, I know. Rest in peace. But we'll see how they handle his passing. Yeah, it's sad.

[Ice]

It is.

[Joe Budden]

Why you laughing, freaks?

[Melissa Ford]

No, I'm. I'm. Go ahead. We have other male topics.

[Joe Budden]

All right. It's the embalmer. The embalmer. The embalmer.

[Parks]

In. In. In most recent news, a Houston embalmer has been charged with abusing a corpse after allegedly mutilating the body of a deceased registered sex offender. She was working at a crematorium and she allegedly castrated the body of Charles Roy Rodriguez and she took his member and apparently stuffed it in his mouth.

[Ice]

Huh.

[Joe Budden]

Gender war.

[Ice]

I don't know. I don't know where this falls in the gender war spectrum.

[Joe Budden]

Gender war. I guess it is this gender war, Joe. I'm telling you, it's gender war time. All right, Parks, let me help you in the comments of this post. Weird story to come across. Your algorithm. Yeah, for sure, but I'm a sicko, so. I saw it too.

[Ice]

Okay, well, you're so.

[Joe Budden]

And in the comments, it was thousands of women praising her free sis. What's her bail?

[Parks]

$1,000.

[Joe Budden]

She did the right thing. Look, look, look.

[Melissa Ford]

Why?

[Joe Budden]

You know, look. Cause she paid all.

[Parks]

She paid the article. Look, okay, no, I'm funding the podcast right now. I can't.

[Joe Budden]

So that is what I mean when I say gender wars. There are a lot of women that are in support of what she did.

[Parks]

So let me ask you guys.

[Joe Budden]

And Mel ain't say that, but I feel like that's where she stands on this.

[Ice]

Oh, for sure.

[Parks]

So can I ask something to the two men here that have daughters? Let's just say that something incredibly unfortunate ever happened to them. What would you want to do to that man?

[Melissa Ford]

Mutilate the motherfucker?

[Parks]

Thank you.

[Melissa Ford]

Myself, I wouldn't even want nobody else to do it.

[Parks]

Do you think that it is entirely possible that by. That some of the comments made by these women are women that have experienced some sexual abuse or. Mm, it's possible.

[Joe Budden]

Don't start moaning now, okay?

[Parks]

I said it with my motherfucking chest.

[Ish]

The guy's dead. And it's wrong. Cause it was the other way around.

[Parks]

What was the other way around if.

[Ish]

It was the other way around? If a nigga just decided to cut some lady's tits off while she's dead.

[Parks]

But what would be the reason?

[Ish]

Who knows whatever the reason is.

[Ice]

Cause she was a sexual abuser.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, well, who cares what the reason is? It's a crime.

[Parks]

It is a crime. It is a crime. Yes, it's a crime.

[Joe Budden]

It is.

[Parks]

It's a crime.

[Joe Budden]

It's a crime.

[Parks]

But she felt in front of an.

[Joe Budden]

Audience or you don't do it in front of an audience. I think it speaks volume that she decided to do this in front of an audience. Well, it was two students, and I think it's wrong. Do we have the ages of those students?

[Parks]

No, they didn't list the ages of the students, but they were students, basically. Learning mortuary process.

[Joe Budden]

When you say students to me, that.

[Parks]

Can include kid, but it doesn't.

[Ice]

Probably young adults.

[Joe Budden]

You can't say that because you don't know how old the person is.

[Melissa Ford]

Even if this person do or don't.

[Parks]

I think that if they were minors, that would have been.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not saying minors. I'm saying kid. I'm not saying kid. No, I'm saying kid. Like we say kid, which is 22. A young person. Okay, 23. You're doing this in front of a young person. I think it's sick if you're not doing it in front of a young person. I agree. I think it's a. I think it's period.

[Melissa Ford]

I, I think the same thing. There was a story that went around. Somebody posted some screenshots of. And I'm hearing allegedly it's fake, but somebody posted some screenshots of their 10 year old daughter and the stepfather.

[Ish]

Yeah, I saw that. Yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

Had that be real.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

The same should have happened to him. Hold on, hold on.

[Joe Budden]

Let me just finish real quick. Hold on.

[Melissa Ford]

What I'm saying is we all be believing that yeah, these pedophiles and these people that fuck with kids should get. This should get fucked up.

[Joe Budden]

I would like to be careful with that because on the flip side there's a report saying that the mom set dude up.

[Melissa Ford]

Yes, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying I said if it were real. I said that.

[Ice]

But that is a big problem.

[Parks]

If it's real.

[Ice]

Right. If we're talking about castrating, whether living or dead, doing harm to someone and then you find out later they may have been innocent or something like that.

[Joe Budden]

Fucked up.

[Ice]

Then that's.

[Melissa Ford]

It's very fucked up.

[Ice]

It's very fucked up.

[Melissa Ford]

I agree with you 100%. I'm just talking about. We hear these stories, you know, think of the movie A Time to Kill.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Melissa Ford]

Which is based on a true story. Like we hear this shit happening where somebody just takes the law into their own hands. They get their revenge back. That was a father that had something happen to his daughter and he went out and got the motherfuckers who understood. I think as parents we would feel that way.

[Ish]

We all would feel that way.

[Melissa Ford]

So we can't just sit here and say, oh, that's wrong that she did that.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Melissa Ford]

We can not say she was a parent.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, we can say that because there's no feelings. Feelings are never wrong. And that's where the line is. But you keep talking about feelings. I'm not talking about how nobody feel. I'm talking about what they did based off those feelings. I could feel however I want. If I take it upon myself to now execute said plan, not only am I breaking the law, but I'm a little sick in the head to do this in front of somebody students.

[Ish]

Hold on, hold up.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm agreeing with you. I'm just talking about the feeling of saying that this person deserve it.

[Joe Budden]

The feeling we not. All right, great. But, but I'm not talking about the feeling.

[Melissa Ford]

The law is the law. So you the actual act. You still broke a law regardless to be you are. Some, some people are cool with that.

[Ish]

I'm too some.

[Melissa Ford]

Yo, I'mma Take what come with it.

[Ish]

I'm too immature for this topic. I'll tell you why. No, not that. You know, she took the law in her own hands, I guess. Oh, no, she took vigilante style, whatever the fuck she was doing. But me, speaking for me as a parent and the lifestyle that I live, even though it's not great mentally, I'm going into a space of wanting revenge if my daughter is hurt to a person that's living, I'm not gonna call the cops. Even though I should. I have to get into that mind frame, that mindset. I have to change. My way of thinking is flawed. And I know that instantly. Something happened. All right, J.R. we out. Let's go figure it out. It's not a good way of thinking.

[Parks]

But I think that's a natural reaction for a.

[Ice]

Not really.

[Ish]

Not for all parents, though, because some parents will call the cops. Some parents will get, you know, will wanna. Yeah. Not all. It's just.

[Melissa Ford]

You want justice.

[Ish]

Yeah. It's based on how you look at life.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

It's also how you look at the justice system. It's how you look at the justice system, especially if your daughter is considered a minority and how little attention crimes against minorities get versus should she be lily white with blonde eyes or. Sorry, blonde hair and blue eyes.

[Ish]

But then what happens? What laws are in place to save you from that? Right. Somebody hurts your child, gonna seek revenge. You hurt the person. Not necessarily have to kill him, but you're gonna get the same penalty as anybody else that doesn't have a fault.

[Parks]

It depends on which state. But a good defense attorney can get you off on something like it was a moment of passion or whatever the case, a crime of passion, temporary insanity. Insanity like that. There's defenses against a moment of passion. When you react to something that is.

[Melissa Ford]

You know, you were temporarily not even thinking. It was just reacting off emotion. In that moment, you are.

[Joe Budden]

And you.

[Melissa Ford]

But that person has nothing to do with this.

[Joe Budden]

You're not related to nobody. Correct.

[Parks]

Yeah, no.

[Joe Budden]

We.

[Parks]

We went off on.

[Joe Budden]

But let's bring it back. This lady is not related to nobody. And she's in.

[Ish]

She's just doing. Doing.

[Joe Budden]

Teaching. Supposed to be teaching people how to do things. And she cut his dick off at his foundation and shoved it in his mouth. Somebody in the world loved this person. Correct. Somebody is coming to the funeral to cry over this person. Certain jobs you're not supposed to have. If you're gonna just use it to fucking.

[Melissa Ford]

If you can't separate your emotions out.

[Ice]

Of it and imagine Being the students.

[Joe Budden]

They'Re probably fucking like, I can't believe that we're doing a deep dive here about this. But if it takes all of us. Us to let Mel Ford know that this is.

[Parks]

I said. No, no, no, no, no. I said that this was a criminal act. I said, I stated that.

[Melissa Ford]

But we are even in this example, bro, that could have. Let's say the embalmer was related to that to. To the person that it still ain't going to change.

[Ish]

It's still.

[Melissa Ford]

It's still legally wrong. I'm just saying that sometimes don't care about that legal and they'll just do it. And some of these deserve some of that.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, well, those people have the right to. Yeah, that's what those people have the right to. If you are willing to bear the brunt of what comes after your actions, then have at it.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Why you got serious like that? Over the topic, nigga. Cause you disgusted about his lady's actions. Cause we make she. Cause Mel's making an excuse for the lady's actions.

[Parks]

I didn't make an excuse.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't make an excuse. I do think it's disgusting, but I'm not like, disgusting.

[Ish]

I do agree with you in front of students. It could be children you're teaching. You supposed to teach.

[Joe Budden]

I would have a whole different teacher take if she did this by herself.

[Ish]

Me too.

[Joe Budden]

If she did it by herself.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Just it. Oh, I couldn't fight it. I'm here. I'm done. This bow. I would have a whole different take you doing that in front of people. I just. I don't respect it. I don't respect it.

[Ish]

I'm with you.

[Parks]

That's definitely fair.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

She could have done that on her own if she. If she was so in, you know.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. If it was in the rage of whatever you're feeling and triggered something from.

[Parks]

I understand fine.

[Ice]

It's just showing the wrong to kids. You know what I'm saying? Like to students. These are people that are learning from.

[Melissa Ford]

You how to evolve, not how to cut dicks off.

[Joe Budden]

Right. Yeah.

[Parks]

Right.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Sorry, Mel.

[Parks]

No, I mean, it's fine. I just, you know, it was an interesting story that had like, that had a very polarizing reaction in the comments and like that.

[Joe Budden]

So you chicks out there want to shove a dick.

[Melissa Ford]

And I remember how. How do you champion Lorena Bobbitt? She was a superhero.

[Joe Budden]

It's all right. It's all right to say it. We know. It's fine.

[Parks]

So anyways, what else in male news? The high School runner who's accused of boop bop. Exactly. That one.

[Ish]

She's accused.

[Parks]

So. No. So she's being charged with a misdemeanor. But the NAACP is coming in because they say that there is footage from a different angle that supports what she says that it was an accident.

[Melissa Ford]

All right, well. Well, I saw.

[Joe Budden]

Well, free her.

[Parks]

I don't know. I mean, I have yet to know.

[Joe Budden]

The girl gets well.

[Parks]

Yeah. It's interesting that she caught you.

[Joe Budden]

Should have been running in front.

[Ice]

Should have lost. Yeah, she lost the race.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, she got you. I mean, that's it.

[Melissa Ford]

She up, though.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ice]

Yeah, she did.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Indeed. NAACP is like. Was that Bob Black lawyer name to show up to anybody house right after their sun die? Ben.

[Parks]

Ben.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. We got to talk about. Excuse me. See?

[Ish]

Stop it. Stop.

[Melissa Ford]

That's why I keep my pillow.

[Ice]

Yeah, Stop.

[Melissa Ford]

When they start their. I'm ready.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, Benjamin. What's his name again? He be at your door before you while your kid is on the way to the hospital. Hey, you want to be on the news?

[Ish]

Benjamin Crump.

[Joe Budden]

Them is getting money, boy. All right. Anyway, shout out to him. What else we got? What else we got? What else we got?

[Parks]

So Anthony Mackie was giving an interview just.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah, this is our last male topic.

[Parks]

And he. He's quoted as saying, the American male is dead. So, Parks, I sent you the video if you want to, like, play that. That American male. Yeah. So he.

[Melissa Ford]

What do you mean, y'all?

[Parks]

I guess the concept of masculinity. I'm sure. So we'll listen to him.

[Joe Budden]

Let's hear this, man.

[Ice]

Let's see what old Anthony Mackey has to say, huh?

[Ish]

And then keep my boys humble. Like my boys have never had a pair of Jordans. You know, my boys don't do all that Internet fly. I'm like your kids. And no, I don't. I could be the biggest star in the world. Do not let me catch you being stupid. Do not. And my oldest gets it. My 15 year old, he tell the.

[Ice]

Other one, shout to Rhoda Clark.

[Ish]

Yo, don't make dad mad. Cause once you get one that's right, he gonna straighten the other ones out. So it's just that thing of in the past 20 years, we've been living through the death of the American male. They have literally killed masculinity in our homes and our communities for one reason or another. But I raised my boys to be young men. And however you feel about that, you feel about that. But my boys will always be respectful. They will always say yes, sir, yes, ma'am, no, sir, no, ma'am. They will always say thank you. They will always open the door for a lady. They will always make sure that their mother is taken care and provided for. They will always be met, and that's always since they were two years old. Every time I left for a job, I tell my 15 year old, you're the man of the house. You make sure these doors are locked. Every night this alarm is on. You text me or you call me every night before you go to bed and you wake up. I love that because we're men. If I'm not there to protect, he got to be there to protect. Because you can have all the money in the world climb through the window, that money means nothing. You can have all the celebrity in the world jump through the door, that celebrity means nothing.

[Ice]

This sounds like much more of a conversation about being a good father than a good father. American masculinity has nothing to do.

[Melissa Ford]

I wait for the masculinity part.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Parks]

I don't know what he. So that's what I was wondering, like, what did he mean by saying over the last 20 years, like, has killed the American male and the idea of masculinity? But then also when you. Do you guys agree with that statement of when you leave the house, you leave your 15 year old in charge. Is that like kind of hoisting too much responsibility on a child's shoulders?

[Melissa Ford]

No, I don't think so. I'm with him with that. I mean, I don't have a 15 year old, you know, male in the house, but yeah, at that age I was, that's what I was.

[Joe Budden]

You know what I'm saying?

[Ice]

Yeah. They expect you to be the man of the house.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

Look like, like he's saying, yo, make sure the doors is locked, make sure the alarm is on, make sure the windows are like, that's what I'm saying.

[Ice]

It's not talking about like going out and getting a high earning salary and.

[Parks]

No, no, no, I don't mean digging wells or no, I don't mean that. I mean like being like the protector of the house should somebody come inside kind of thing. Like should an intruder come over?

[Ish]

No, he's just saying you just got.

[Melissa Ford]

To do the, the check, the checks of the house before you go to bed. One of your brothers.

[Parks]

I was left alone, okay. All I had was dogs and cats and birds and fish. That's who looked after.

[Ish]

He was in the woods somewhere.

[Parks]

He was in the woods in Toronto property. Okay. It was the City.

[Ish]

Were you in the cabin?

[Parks]

No, I wasn't in a fucking cabin.

[Ish]

You know how the Russians do when they come here? They go deep in the woods.

[Parks]

I was not in the woods.

[Joe Budden]

What's our deep dive here?

[Ice]

It sounds like he was doing some great father talk. I think that was super cool.

[Melissa Ford]

I thought that was gonna be something else.

[Parks]

It's just his statement saying the American male is dead and the idea of masculinity is dead and all that other stuff. Like, it just had people interpreting it.

[Ice]

Just different ways in this conversation. That sounds like a clickbait headline. But if you want to talk about, is American masculinity dead? I don't think so. I think that they're.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Ice]

Okay.

[Melissa Ford]

All right, let's hear it.

[Ish]

Women has taken on the role of American masculinity in men. And not intentionally. It's just. That's what's being pushed to us because it's being highlighted that women are now the masculine one in relationships when there's still good men out there. Not being highlighted. And good men that believe in responsibility and being a man in a relationship.

[Ice]

Relationship isn't part of being a good man. Not being highlighted for being a good man.

[Joe Budden]

Not to be a dick, because I'm not trying to be a dick and I'm not trying to harp on things. This was my point with that dochi. Straight. Straight man, red flag conversation. Let's go. This was the exact. What he's saying is that, yo, there are still men.

[Ish]

Talk about it.

[Joe Budden]

Men.

[Ish]

Men talk about it.

[Joe Budden]

Whatever your interpretation of that is, he described his. A lot of men agree with. Yeah, he did that. Okay, there are still men.

[Melissa Ford]

That's not being erased, though. You think what he described as being a man is being erased?

[Parks]

No, and hold on one second here. What you're alluding what you're alluding to. What you're alluding to.

[Joe Budden]

I can't live. I know that you can't tell me what I'm alluding to if I can't live.

[Parks]

I'm basing it on your. On the last conversation that we had about this, where you landed all over the place.

[Joe Budden]

But we're having a new conversation, and I'm making a point that connects full circle the depiction of what a man looks like. Many people, and I said this in that doji conversation, feel that there's an erasure happening with that. So when you hear somebody say, hey, I'm raising mine like this, like men. Like some people still take pride in whatever that interpretation of man is. But to act like when you pick up a newspaper, a magazine, hear from prominent black people, fucking see on tv, see in movies, that that version of man is not being represented properly. Like, there's a reason for it. And that Dochi comment is part of it. She has nothing to do with this, so I don't want to get back to her. But that's why y'all that. Y'all that were like, oh, y'all making a big deal out of nothing. Some people were making a big deal out of it because they see a different picture happening over the.

[Melissa Ford]

They tying it to the other shit, our children.

[Ish]

I mean, we have children that we're raising. And what is being with what they're learning is not what they're learning is on the contrary of what's happening in the home.

[Joe Budden]

They'll show you a man sucking another man's dick today before they show you a man acting like a man.

[Ish]

Exactly.

[Melissa Ford]

What does acting like a man mean?

[Ish]

Acting like a man.

[Melissa Ford]

Being responsible.

[Joe Budden]

I keep saying that's open for your own interpretation. And so many people agree with some of the things that he laid out, which is, hey, yes, I'm 15 years old. Yes, there's older people, older women, adults in the house, but none of that matters to a man. A man is going to be a man at all points in time.

[Ish]

Preach, nigga.

[Joe Budden]

So, yeah, that's me telling my son, hey, when you get a job at 16, this is what you do. When you get paid. Paid, you take that money home.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

You live with your mom and you be the man of the house. If you. If there's no man in there, if she's not married, if there's nobody else there, that's your job. Make sure these bills are paid. Help mom in any way you possibly can, because that's what a man does. And so for you to act like it's not an erasure happening. I don't understand it.

[Ish]

Let me understand. Let me go.

[Parks]

And I want to say, I don't feel like the Doshi conversation applies here, because what to me. What she was describing, she was. Was describing her preference. And if you're saying that she's describing a type of man that lacks masculinity, then that would lend to the.

[Joe Budden]

The argument there's an attack on straight men.

[Parks]

Hold on.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not trying to interpret it from her. Strong straight men, period. I'm not trying to read through cryptic notes about how you feel about that is a fact.

[Melissa Ford]

You are 100 correct. I told back when we was over at Parks Crib I said, yo, you ever want to test that theory, go search straight black man on Twitter and put it in quotes. And you went and looked and was like, oh, this is pissing me off. Like, that's just been a thing.

[Joe Budden]

I know. But anytime. That's a thing. But anytime we start hearing from somebody who might share in those views, every excuse is made for him.

[Ish]

Every excuse.

[Joe Budden]

Every excuse is made for him.

[Ish]

They start bringing up different shit that has nothing to do with the topic about women stuffing for over the years.

[Joe Budden]

Just eliminate the excuses and say there are some people that share in the ideology that these niggas are red flags and they're dangerous and we'd rather be around a bear. Oh, that's the point of the beer conversation again.

[Parks]

It's really not. It's really not.

[Joe Budden]

A man is telling you something.

[Parks]

Let me ask you two something. Let me. Let me ask you two something as having daughters. What is. What are the things that you even.

[Joe Budden]

That's the point.

[Parks]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Budden]

Why you can't hear from a man that don't have a daughter.

[Parks]

Can I talk?

[Joe Budden]

Yes. I'm sorry.

[Melissa Ford]

And because having a daughter changed your.

[Joe Budden]

Perspective on a lot of things, but not mine. Ice. But wait. That is the point. Joke. Don't need a daughter to qualify. We speaking as men, Joe.

[Melissa Ford]

I hear you. I'm telling you as a man with a daughter.

[Joe Budden]

We got that part. But you can't talking about. I know.

[Melissa Ford]

I know. You yelling, but.

[Joe Budden]

No, we just talking about men.

[Melissa Ford]

I understand.

[Joe Budden]

We're not talking about your daughter. Your mom. Mom. Your sister. We got that part. This conversation started and should end with men telling you about men and the erasure of men.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

You don't need to speak to somebody with a daughter to see how a man feels. Speak to a man.

[Ish]

Okay, let her gush it off.

[Joe Budden]

No, please.

[Parks]

No, he.

[Joe Budden]

Please continue.

[Parks]

He completely shut down everything that I. No, because I can't respond to the Doshi thing. I can't respond to the bear. Because. Because. Because it all factors in. It does. My fucking argument. When you keep bringing up this bear shit, it's fucking pissing me off because you are being willfully fucking obtuse. All right, stay fucking there, you two. You have daughters. What is it that you are teaching your daughters in terms of when they go out into the world, how to conduct themselves in terms. Only in terms of their sense of personal safety. Safety. Who do they need to keep themselves safe from? Who? And don't. Just answer the question.

[Ish]

People.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, I'm gonna say the world.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Ish]

The world.

[Parks]

Can you be a little bit more specific?

[Melissa Ford]

People, like you said. It's not. It's not.

[Joe Budden]

It's.

[Melissa Ford]

I get where you're trying to go with that. I'm not sitting there. I mean, I'm not at that point yet, but it's not. Hey, look out for Ben. Look out for boys.

[Ish]

No, look out for people.

[Parks]

Okay? People are up out here and I'm just asking you two specifically.

[Ish]

Well, hold on. I have a 15 year old daughter.

[Melissa Ford]

He can answer better than that.

[Ish]

I have a 15 year old daughter. I tell her to be on the lookout for people. Jealous girls. But I also tell her to be on the lookout for older men that's trying to prey on younger girls offering rides and stuff like that. Is that what you're getting at? I tell her that. But that's what you learn in growing up and that's that some men do that.

[Parks]

No, and that is fair and that is fucking accurate. I can tell you stories of when I was 11 and. And. No, fuck that. Eight. Eight. We had a handyman that used to come to the house. And one day my father was just like. My parents worked and my dad was literally like, he's coming to the house. Just give him the money for the work that he did, blah, blah, blah. He came to the house. I was there alone. He was drunk and he tried to do some shit to me. It was fucking terrifying because I'm in my own fucking house and this is somebody that my parents fucking trusted. And he came there drunk and it was really, really bad. That is just one experience. I. There's so many more that I can talk about that happened before the age of 16 years old. The reality is, is that you can be in the safest environment and still there will be a situation that unfolds that. Where. Where you need to teach your daughters to be careful of predatory boys and men. And I'm not talking to people. I know because just.

[Joe Budden]

Can I ask you a question?

[Parks]

Just wait one second. Anything can fucking happen.

[Joe Budden]

That story about the handyman, was your dad there for that?

[Parks]

No, he wasn't. He was. He was at work. It was during the day. It was like fucking noon or something like that. Okay, now, so hold on.

[Ish]

There are systematic efforts that are out there to discredit and silence.

[Parks]

I'm not, I'm not. I'm. I'm just. I'm. I'm not talking.

[Ish]

But you have to acknowledge that too.

[Parks]

I'm not. I'm not.

[Ish]

Wait, wait, listen. You have not have to. You should acknowledge the Fact that there is a movement to discredit the black man. To discredit men.

[Melissa Ford]

The straight black man.

[Ish]

The straight man.

[Melissa Ford]

The straight man.

[Ish]

Online, they're showing that women have all this power and women are in control of the home. And the black men are not here to take care of different legislation where.

[Parks]

Legislation that's being passed, Roe v. Wade being overturned, anti abortion laws. There is literally.

[Ish]

We're talking about social media that's being fed to our children. And now if you go on, is always something to discredit the black man. You know that and I know that. So that's what the point we're getting at is that there's something that's going on, not taking away, that there's not. We know that there's predators out there. We know that there's men out there that take advantage. But there's also a lot of great men out there that take care of their family, that provide for their children, that protect the home. And that's not being. That's not being highlighted anymore.

[Parks]

In no way, shape or form am I fucking denying that. That at all. I'll highlight it as much as possible.

[Joe Budden]

You don't when you say I'd rather be around a bear.

[Parks]

Oh my God. Literally.

[Joe Budden]

You don't though, when you say that.

[Parks]

Stop, because the fucking bear is literally just a fucking extreme metaphor for the high rate incidence rate of fucking sexual assault against women and girls. That's it. It is a fucking metaphor. Get over it. Okay? That has nothing to do with the era fragile of the concept of the straight. It has nothing to do with it. It has to do with sexual assault.

[Joe Budden]

Melissa.

[Parks]

That is it. That is all. That is it. That is all.

[Joe Budden]

Please let me. Please let me get this one be one word, please. And we don't have to yell and get hostile here.

[Parks]

Okay, you're right. But I'm very frustrated by the way that that conversation has been handled over the course of months. Especially for somebody literally experienced it. Literally experienced it more times than I care for it.

[Joe Budden]

I'm going to say this in closing because I feel like we have rehashed the beer conversation a bunch. That's true. But if the bear conversation is being had through the lens of only sexual assault victims and victims of sexual violence, then you have now answered a question while erasing the rest of the field of men. Good men, cornerstone men, legacy building, great men. You are erasing that and answering the question through the lens of trauma and pain and horrible experiences with men. So when you hear Anthony Mackie describe what it Is to be a man. Where is the confusion at? We not talking about men that do that nasty shit. We talking about men.

[Parks]

And men should be acknowledged because we are. Because the two things have nothing to fucking do with each other. Listen, all right, look, look, just wait, okay? Just wait.

[Joe Budden]

I'm done.

[Parks]

The idea.

[Joe Budden]

Cause she not gonna get it. No matter what you say, you don't.

[Ish]

Get it, but you don't get it.

[Parks]

You don't get it.

[Ish]

Will you feel like you're part of the problem because you also highlighted that that pressure could be too much for the 15 year old son. That's the first thing you went to.

[Parks]

We are going all over the place.

[Ish]

No, I'm just saying that.

[Parks]

Listen. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Just one second. But you made an excuse. Wait one second. Wait one second. He brought up the bear. He brought it up. This wasn't even part of the fucking conversation right now. That was just throwing a fucking monkey wrench into the conversation about male masculinity. We're not. That has nothing to do with the fucking bear.

[Joe Budden]

Got it?

[Parks]

That was not.

[Joe Budden]

It has everything to do with the erasure of men and what it is to be. Look, and that's a man telling you.

[Parks]

No, just wait one second.

[Joe Budden]

But even that a man can't tell you nothing.

[Ish]

Yeah, man, go ahead.

[Parks]

There was this case that just unfolded in fucking France. And her name and the woman's at the helm of this case. Her name is Giselle pellicote. She was 70 years old and her husband. Husband spent the better part of a decade drugging her and advertising to men to come over and sexually assault her. And she did not know it. And do you know who these men were? There was like 50 of them. 51 of them got, you know, some form of, I don't know, punishment, you know, legal punishment. These men were doctors, plumbers, lawyers. They were family men. They were grandfathers. They were all the things. The whole point is that you lit. There is no face of a predator. There's no face, there is no look. There's no nothing. You can't tell. So when women are talking about sexual assault, it has nothing to do with, you know, be afraid of, you know, men, because they're just scary. It's just. There's no fucking picture as to what predatory. What a predator looks like. The predator can look like your next door fucking neighbor. The predator can look like your father. The predator can be your uncle, can be your brother, can be anybody. That's the whole point.

[Joe Budden]

Which is more reason for describe what raising a man Looks like he does not become.

[Ish]

Can I say something to you, Joe? What the f. Here's my thing.

[Joe Budden]

Go ahead, please.

[Parks]

Yeah, here's my thing. Yeah, agreed.

[Ish]

Here's my thing.

[Melissa Ford]

Because that's really.

[Ish]

We are so. We are so. We are so used to. We are so used to looking down upon black men. Not saying you're doing it, but people, is because the first thing you said, and I said this when he said about what he's teaching his 15 year old son, is that you made an excuse by saying that's an excuse.

[Parks]

Do you think I asked a question?

[Ish]

You asked a question. Sorry, ma'am. Saying that. Do you think it may be too much pressure on this child? Do you wanna know why we don't think that.

[Parks]

Do you wanna know why I asked.

[Ish]

That we teach our boys?

[Parks]

Do you know why I wanna know.

[Ish]

Why you asked that?

[Parks]

This is why I asked it.

[Ish]

Yes, ma'am.

[Parks]

Simple reason. Why? Why? Because as black people, Black women, black black men, we are forced to grow up a lot faster than we should. Okay. We are looked at as more mature than our years, actually, you know, dictate. And that is unfair. That's unfair to both black female children and black male children. They should be able and they should be allowed to have a childhood, a full childhood. That was the only reason why I asked. Had nothing to do with him making a poor.

[Melissa Ford]

I do get that. Because on the flip side, it'd be. The flip side of that be the. The girl that is maybe 13, 14, and you gotta take care of your siblings now.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

You're being forced to be.

[Ish]

Because society. Because that's, that's some of the. That's some of the positions that society afford to be.

[Parks]

And I understand that, but. And Anthony Mackie is very, very rich. He has a lot of money, he has a lot of access to things. I'm just talking about him specifically. I'm not talking about, you know, say the single mom who's got several children and she's got to work two jobs and yes, then she relies on her children. And I understand that. I'm not talking about.

[Ish]

Is that an exception? Do you give that an exception?

[Parks]

And I will give him that. He is. He could be considered an exception to the rule. That was the only reason why I asked that question. And it had nothing. And it had nothing to do with, you know, the concept of masculinity being bastardized or forced upon him too early. No, it's just like he's still kind of a kid and he should be able to be A kid. That's the only reason why I asked it.

[Ish]

Do you know what it's like in closing for me when we say be a kid. Right? People used to say that pertaining to me and my son, because I teach him the same values of being a man. You know, as soon as you take that hand off and let them be a kid, they do. They succumb to peer pressure. They do stupid shit that kids do. They forget the guidance and the rules that you instill in them. So, like, when we say, let them be a kid, what does that entail?

[Joe Budden]

Right?

[Ish]

Let them be a kid. Being a kid. Cool. You can have fun. But it comes to some rules and regulations when it comes to being a kid. You can't just let a kid be a kid.

[Parks]

Okay?

[Ish]

I mean, this is a whole separate conversation, but I wanna say that. Cause I hear that a lot, and I'm a prime example of, oh, let him be a kid and take an adult off.

[Melissa Ford]

Let.

[Ish]

And then shit go haywire.

[Melissa Ford]

Look, letting them be a kid don't necessarily mean taking a hand off. They just talk about putting the added responsibility on the kid. That ain't necessarily. You can still have your rules and, you know, the way you're guiding this kid.

[Ish]

Got it.

[Melissa Ford]

And let them grow up without basically being a parent or the father of the house.

[Ish]

Okay?

[Melissa Ford]

Both can happen.

[Parks]

I feel like, you know, in closing, I feel somebody close. I feel.

[Joe Budden]

Get out of here.

[Parks]

Okay. I was just going to say, I feel like, you know, that I had a lot of responsibility put on my shoulders way too early. I wasn't allowed to be a kid. Like, for as long as I should have been, I wasn't allowed. And so that's the only reason why I asked. The question had nothing to do with the concept master.

[Ish]

Look at what you became. Look at smart, intellectual, right? Focused, determined. Like, highlight the positivities of that.

[Joe Budden]

Can I add.

[Parks]

It's it. I will, but. Go on. Go.

[Ish]

No, I think it's great. I think, you know, like, successful.

[Parks]

Yes. Beautiful, strong.

[Joe Budden]

Resilient.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Melissa Ford]

Thank you.

[Joe Budden]

Come on.

[Parks]

Thank you.

[Joe Budden]

Come on.

[Parks]

Thank you.

[Joe Budden]

Let me think of some more adjectives. One of the brightest, one of the strongest.

[Parks]

Extreme resilient.

[Joe Budden]

With the most will determined. Yeah.

[Parks]

Thanks, mom and dad.

[Melissa Ford]

There you go.

[Joe Budden]

There you go. There you go.

[Parks]

Okay. All right. Moving right along. Yo, that shows crazy.

[Ish]

I'm a man went crazy. Shout out to Pops. Joe. Pops. I know. I can hear Joe. Pop. Them don't play when it comes to being men at all. They don't play. Joe with his Bag. It's but so long. You could be the potter and. Meaning a great potter and. And cater to everyone. Sometimes your true feelings come out. You're good.

[Joe Budden]

What you're feeling.

[Ish]

You a man. There's some going on with black man. I was waiting for you to say it.

[Melissa Ford]

No, A lot of times this been going on.

[Ish]

Yeah, but we don't highlight that, bro. I'm happy that you did.

[Melissa Ford]

It's been going on. They make straight black men as the devil. My.

[Parks]

I was.

[Joe Budden]

I was.

[Parks]

I was burping. I'm sorry.

[Joe Budden]

Don't burp while we talk about black men. Don't burp while we talking about black men. Okay. All right.

[Parks]

Sorry.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah.

[Parks]

See? Protein shake.

[Joe Budden]

That was fun.

[Ish]

Let's go, man.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't mean. I didn't mean to come off triggered. If I came off triggered. I'm sorry.

[Melissa Ford]

Nah, you good.

[Joe Budden]

I apologize.

[Melissa Ford]

It was.

[Parks]

We were impassioned.

[Melissa Ford]

There you go.

[Ish]

I like that, though. Joe.

[Joe Budden]

That's what.

[Ish]

Joe, I was talking about. I was calling for you.

[Joe Budden]

I'm just saying if you.

[Ish]

That's the one I called you for.

[Joe Budden]

I just was getting triggered off of Mel's reaction to Anthony Mackie, because then I just started hearing all of this shit from the dochi and the bear, and I just started hearing it all. And my thing is, like, go speak to men.

[Parks]

No, and here's the thing.

[Joe Budden]

If you go speak to men, like, if you change the bear pole into, like, a man positive pole, like, to really gain information, like, plenty men feel like that or that there's no room. Room to talk or speak, because we play the clips all the time of. We got to just tuck it, keep it moving, be a man, protect, serve, provide for all of the. That comes with being a man.

[Ice]

There's also plenty of men that feel horrible that women feel like she feels for sure. Because that's being a man.

[Joe Budden]

I think that's part of being a man.

[Ice]

Yeah, that's the main part of being a man. Like, damn, that's up. That you would rather be with a potentially vicious animal than be with a man.

[Melissa Ford]

Because y'all can't.

[Ish]

Yeah, but her thing is saying that it's an extreme male listing. It's extreme, and as adults, we could differentiate it. But what about the people that we're trying to teach that can't. What about the young women? Yeah, the young women that may think.

[Parks]

Like, I mean, maybe this is a possibility. Here's the thing is, like, a bunch of guys were also polled, and there was either guys who were like, what the fuck are you talking about? And other guys that were like, yeah, I totally understand what the concept of.

[Melissa Ford]

This metaphor is, had the discussion.

[Parks]

But I. But I. I will say, you know, to Parks's point, that that headline was really clickbaity. I don't. I don't think that anything he said was wrong. Say anything.

[Ish]

But that's the re. Hold on. But closing. But that's the reason we should.

[Ice]

We should be highlighting.

[Ish]

There you go.

[Joe Budden]

30 times.

[Ish]

That's the.

[Joe Budden]

Open it up.

[Ish]

That's one of the reasons they made a topic about a. Talking about being a great father and teaching his son.

[Melissa Ford]

And all they took from it. All they took from it was him.

[Joe Budden]

Saying, american man being Anthony Mack. You right, man.

[Ish]

Salute.

[Joe Budden]

That man's over with. Never done a thing of the past. It's prehistoric.

[Melissa Ford]

Never.

[Joe Budden]

It's gone. It's gone.

[Ice]

Never.

[Melissa Ford]

Never.

[Joe Budden]

Ah.

[Melissa Ford]

Never.

[Joe Budden]

All right. We did it.

[Ish]

We did it.

[Melissa Ford]

We did it.

[Joe Budden]

We did it.

[Ice]

We did it.

[Joe Budden]

We did it. We did it.

[Parks]

That's it. Okay, and that wraps up Mel's topics for the day.

[Joe Budden]

And I told y'all that when we got to the Anthony Mackie part that I was going to promote.

[Melissa Ford]

You said it.

[Joe Budden]

You did.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm going to use that one to trigger my.

[Joe Budden]

For sure, for sure, for sure.

[Ish]

Shout out to Mel, though.

[Joe Budden]

I love when the plan comes together. Give it up for a. I hate that you can. I ain't going to hold you. Give it up for a plan coming together.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm not going to hold you. I hate that you could do that.

[Parks]

What?

[Melissa Ford]

Like, you just. It's like some puppet master shit. Like, yo, I know exactly what this. On what topics to get who I want to get triggered.

[Ish]

It's just a part of profile.

[Joe Budden]

When Mel wrote that on the board and none of us really knew what the topic was like, I was like, okay, I got you, girl. I'm with you. I'm right with you.

[Melissa Ford]

That's like a superpower.

[Joe Budden]

I see what you're doing. I see where you're trying to go. Come on, let's have it. I'm with you. I'm always with you. All right, what else is important?

[Parks]

We did. We did good.

[Joe Budden]

What else is important? Unimportant. We did, we did, we did. Y. I got a question for y'all.

[Melissa Ford]

What's up?

[Joe Budden]

Shoot up 2010. Do y'all think, like, Lil Wayne? Like, was he the greatest rapper?

[Ish]

You know why that's nasty, nigga? Because we start off the topic with. We start off the part with a great topic, cuz. It flip. And now you want to try to on it. Are you doing this?

[Joe Budden]

No. Y'all been killing it.

[Ish]

Are you. Are you doing this again?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Negativity highlighter. Do we want to talk about. About Teanna's divorce results?

[Ish]

We can talk about it. Shout out to Tiana. Shout out to Shump. Yeah, you can talk about it. Anybody have the results up when she was awarded?

[Ice]

It's a long list.

[Melissa Ford]

Damn sure is.

[Ish]

I started feeling bad for my nigga Chump a little bit, but. But I think he. He saves his money though. Shout out to Shump. Shout out to Tiana too.

[Ice]

Okay, Tiana receiving four homes worth more than $10 million. A single seven figure payment. Several luxury cars, such as a $300,000 Maybach Sprinter, which is $70,000 in a tour bus. She means owner ownership of her companies. Additionally, he must pay 8,000amonth in child support. And he is responsible for the entire expense of private school tuition.

[Joe Budden]

And she has Aaron Pierre.

[Melissa Ford]

They had a prenup, right?

[Ice]

I think that was. That was mentioned somewhere. I don't know.

[Melissa Ford]

I thought I read somewhere.

[Joe Budden]

She got all of that and has Aaron Pierre.

[Ice]

Big win.

[Melissa Ford]

He got Pop out with something.

[Joe Budden]

Are you kidding me?

[Melissa Ford]

Gotta pop out with something.

[Joe Budden]

Chump is my man.

[Ish]

Shout out to sh. My brother. Love him.

[Joe Budden]

This could not have gone any more wrong. Remember Shump was talking about taking her to court to get half. Shum was talking about, aye, I'm taking you to court for child support. Girl, you're gonna pay me. This could not have. Where they at in la? Where was it done?

[Ish]

Atlanta.

[Joe Budden]

Atlanta, Home of the black. They did this to a black family.

[Melissa Ford]

He ratioed a black man.

[Joe Budden]

What the fuck did he get? He ain't get a damn thing. He lost it all.

[Ish]

No, he didn't. I think whatever. They checked on Shump or whatever, you know, Shump saves money.

[Joe Budden]

He got an orange gator.

[Ish]

He's Fruit Google when it comes to spend. I mean, when it comes to spending. So I think that he had money put away.

[Joe Budden]

You. He could. They could. They let him keep his calf shorts.

[Ish]

Watch your mouth.

[Joe Budden]

That's my man. But he getting these jokes. I got a job. They let him keep his warm ups. Shump. What the. They let him have his mixtape catalog. All right, you rhyming, right? All right, that's you. But Mayback and shit. Yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

The car's gotta go.

[Ish]

One of the. One of the calls would crash and.

[Joe Budden]

He had child support. Everything that you bought when y'all was super up, that goes to her. All the houses you get that some that Piff Records.

[Ish]

Watch your mama, my friend.

[Joe Budden]

What else Jump get the memories. A Gumby. Do you want to get a Gumby again?

[Melissa Ford]

Gummy back.

[Joe Budden]

That's you back for sure. You could get the Gumby, my G. Let me see what else they gave. So Chop.

[Melissa Ford]

They gave him a chopped cheese from his nick days.

[Joe Budden]

Oh yeah. From sandwichitos from somewhere nice.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, good one.

[Joe Budden]

Nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What else? That's up. I'm with you. Jump is my man. He's a friend of the show.

[Ish]

But Tiana my friend too. So is it? Is it? I'm just happy that they. They were able to. Because she wanted one.

[Joe Budden]

Tiana's my friend, but love Tiana. She went and got a lot more successful since we met. And I think that same thing might apply to Shump. Like she went and got like success. She started winning Emmys and shit like her. Whatever she did for her brand and cat shape my is out of here.

[Melissa Ford]

And then he went and got killed on the shot.

[Joe Budden]

Cut from the Cavs. Him and Booby something come up here, man. We ain't going to let you talk bad about Tiana cuz we New York and that's our girl. But God damn, what did they give him?

[Ish]

He got more you could have.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, no, no. That's not true. If you got some coogee outfits, that's you. You could keep it. What else?

[Ish]

You know this is an agreement that.

[Joe Budden]

Some Pele Pelle jackets.

[Ish]

You know this.

[Joe Budden]

I don't want the leathers.

[Ish]

Do you know this is an agreement that both their lawyers came up with. It's an agreement amongst each other.

[Ice]

So he knows a compromise.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, but.

[Melissa Ford]

But sometimes one lawyer spank the other one.

[Joe Budden]

And the great words of is bougie. No, hey, I don't get. I read the statement from Tiana. Mom. Shump Mom. Somebody was like, hey, they split things up evenly. Everybody left with got it. Got it. And you get Aaron Pierre.

[Ish]

Yeah, yeah, I'm you up here when we.

[Melissa Ford]

When this.

[Ish]

When it's over.

[Joe Budden]

I got a slide to the Lion King 2 taping. It was Lion King. What movie Mufasa was in? Mufasa. Jennifer Hudson. They on your ass. That's. That's Jennifer Hudson with the hallway with the dancing Muasa. Right?

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

All of them through the hallway.

[Joe Budden]

They on Jennifer Hudson ass for the hallway being empty on some of the celebs. So now ever since I read that, that's all I could see. So when big, Big Sean come dancing down, I just look at the hallway. And I'm not gonna lie, some people.

[Parks]

Was missing lunch break.

[Joe Budden]

I'm asking y'all.

[Melissa Ford]

You came a little early.

[Joe Budden]

I want to know how y'all would feel if y'all were the celebrity and you show up to do Jennifer Hudson's.

[Melissa Ford]

The little hallway.

[Joe Budden]

Hallway of dance. It ain't nobody there.

[Parks]

Feelings with being.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, I'm going to be tight. I'm just going to walk.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

Now it's like, all right, just walk real quick.

[Joe Budden]

All right. And they killed the Big Sean song. It's just people wasn't there there. Shout out to Sean, man. Shout out to everybody, man. There you go.

[Ice]

Yeah, the whole world.

[Joe Budden]

Awkward. Mel, what does it mean to be a man?

[Ice]

Like, fast Mel.

[Joe Budden]

If I. When I tell y'all that Mel is going to stab me one of these days. I'm fully aware of it. And I'mma take it. I'mma take it for the team. I'm going.

[Ice]

Just take it. Take it like a man.

[Joe Budden]

I'mma take it like a man.

[Melissa Ford]

Pay per view.

[Joe Budden]

That Mel is going to stab the out of me. Oh, are we out of here? That's what's going to happen. If we could schedule that and Poe is there with a camera, I would release it.

[Melissa Ford]

I know.

[Joe Budden]

And if you stab me somewhere non threatening, I'm okay. I'm okay with it. Look at the limps. I'll go to for the content. I get my life for this. I get my life for the content, man.

[Melissa Ford]

$50.

[Joe Budden]

Look, she thinking about it. That's how I know she a mom.

[Parks]

I'm just looking, trying to figure out where I can avoid major arteries or organs.

[Joe Budden]

I'm big enough, so there's enough room.

[Parks]

Yeah, I know. That was what I was thinking.

[Ice]

Oh, shit.

[Joe Budden]

Fuck you. Now, what else is important? Unimportant important, not important. What else?

[Ish]

What else?

[Joe Budden]

What else? Oh, man. What else?

[Ish]

What else?

[Melissa Ford]

What else? Jrock seems to have a running with the law.

[Ice]

Yeah, we don't have too many details. Right?

[Joe Budden]

Well, we have absolutely no details.

[Ice]

They said they pulled him over and he had a gun in the car.

[Melissa Ford]

They said he was allegedly drinking in public and trespassing. And when they tried to arrest him from the car, he took off running. Oh, and it was a gun in the car.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ice]

I mean, yeah, yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

When I read that, I'm like, okay, if he. There's a gun in the car.

[Joe Budden]

Free J Rock. Yeah, Free J Rock. Free J Rock. He ain't do nothing wrong.

[Ice]

Not at all.

[Joe Budden]

Fuck out of here.

[Melissa Ford]

Leave him alone.

[Joe Budden]

Come on. What do we think about Vivica Fox getting a BBL at 60 years old. How do we feel? Come on. We're gonna toss it to our BBL expert.

[Ice]

Wait, I don't know.

[Melissa Ford]

Wait, you gonna toss it to yourself? So I'll be walking back?

[Joe Budden]

Boy, am I the BBL expert? Yeah.

[Ice]

Yeah, yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

No, I'm not.

[Parks]

Yeah, you are.

[Melissa Ford]

Out of everybody in this room who's.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, if I'm protecting your covers, then, yeah, I know y'all. Y'all got podcast covers.

[Melissa Ford]

No, I ain't got no podcast cover.

[Joe Budden]

Please. You bring a bunch of with BBls to the compound. You brought a bunch of to BBls to the compound.

[Melissa Ford]

Hey, dog.

[Joe Budden]

You did.

[Melissa Ford]

I did.

[Joe Budden]

I know you tried to erase your compound image.

[Melissa Ford]

You did not erase it. My compound.

[Joe Budden]

The. That was sticking a Hennessy bottle. When they put bbls, do you know.

[Melissa Ford]

How little they was? They did not have bbls.

[Joe Budden]

My little chicks get bbls.

[Melissa Ford]

They didn't have bbls.

[Joe Budden]

I'm talking about, you know a lot of chicks with bbls.

[Melissa Ford]

I know chicks with bbo, but that's.

[Joe Budden]

And you know a lot of older chicks with BBLs.

[Parks]

Me?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

No, I don't.

[Ish]

Yeah, BBL. Melly. No.

[Parks]

What?

[Ish]

Not you.

[Joe Budden]

And you know a lot of people with bbl now you.

[Ish]

I do. I'm a BBL condo.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Just put some on me. Come on. What do we think about Vivica Fox getting a BBL at 60 years old.

[Ice]

And throwing a party for said BBL?

[Ish]

Does it look good?

[Parks]

But wait, I thought that was just 60th birthday. Like, not.

[Melissa Ford]

That's what she got for herself.

[Ice]

There you go. Double wedding.

[Joe Budden]

I was saying maybe you got a 6BBL for.

[Parks]

All right, well. Well, congratulations.

[Ice]

There you go.

[Joe Budden]

Come on.

[Ish]

That's how you feel like. Do you feel like a woman at 60 should get a BBL?

[Joe Budden]

A black woman?

[Melissa Ford]

Because Abuela gonna get one at 60.

[Parks]

Yeah. I think that a woman who wants to do that should go ahead and do that.

[Ish]

Got it. Do you think she should celebrate her body, her choice?

[Parks]

Pretty much.

[Joe Budden]

Pretty much.

[Ish]

Do you think it should be celebrated or she should just move?

[Parks]

She chose to celebrate it then. Hey, more power to you.

[Ish]

But you wouldn't do that.

[Joe Budden]

Independence for women should always be celebrated.

[Ish]

True.

[Parks]

We go.

[Ish]

That's like when you take O and lose weight. Are you gonna throw a party for it? Not you.

[Parks]

I don't know. Are you?

[Ish]

I will.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Ish]

Nah, I'm not. I'm not. I'm talking about in general.

[Parks]

Did I.

[Ish]

No.

[Parks]

Okay, there we go, then. That's the answer to the question. No.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah.

[Parks]

I think she should do what she wants to do. Whatever makes her happy. Whatever makes her happy.

[Ish]

It's.

[Joe Budden]

But what did you think about it when you first seen it? Come across your taker?

[Ish]

That's what I'm saying, man. Take this off.

[Joe Budden]

Off.

[Ish]

Come on. You threw a party for what?

[Joe Budden]

Come on.

[Ish]

I know how your mind think. You look crazy. I'm natural. You know, you was bigger yourself up.

[Parks]

No, no, no.

[Melissa Ford]

You trying to keep up, man. Leave her alone.

[Parks]

Let.

[Melissa Ford]

Let her keep up. She trying to keep up.

[Parks]

I just have some concerns. Like, have some concerns. Just some concerns. That's it. That's it though. But it's not me. It's not. It's not me. It's not my true choice.

[Melissa Ford]

She's 60, single.

[Parks]

Get it?

[Joe Budden]

Viva.

[Melissa Ford]

Got to compete out there.

[Parks]

Yeah, but cutting into your body like that just creates like a whole lot.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not saying. What are you competing with at 60 years old?

[Melissa Ford]

Girls.

[Ice]

Girls with ass.

[Joe Budden]

Them. No, you. Okay, got it. You got it, you got it. Hey.

[Ish]

It's over, Joe.

[Joe Budden]

We listen and we don't judge.

[Parks]

That's right. We listen and we don't judge.

[Ish]

We don't judge. Don't judge.

[Joe Budden]

That's the problem. Problem? These 60 year old heifers is out here still trying to compete.

[Melissa Ford]

Yes, because you don't want to age out the game.

[Joe Budden]

Go to bed.

[Melissa Ford]

No, they don't want to age out the game.

[Joe Budden]

You've aged out the game.

[Melissa Ford]

Not as long as Dr. Such and Such is still in business.

[Joe Budden]

You've aged out the game. You've aged out. Yo, go to bed. You don't have to compete at 60 years old. You are psycho and nuts, bro.

[Melissa Ford]

It's a whole crop of 20 plus year olds that.

[Joe Budden]

It's not about you looking at you go compete with the 25 year old girl.

[Parks]

I don't think the 6 year old is competing with the 25 year old girl.

[Joe Budden]

Huh?

[Parks]

I don't think that in her mind she's competing with a 25 year old girl.

[Joe Budden]

Mel is purposely trying to trigger me this episode.

[Parks]

I'm not trying to get you back.

[Ice]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

She doing something to me.

[Parks]

Why? No, no, no. What?

[Ish]

Let her expound.

[Parks]

Why do you think that she's incompetent? Why do you choose that age? Why do you think that a 60 year old hones in on 25 year olds and saying I'm in direct competition with you? Why do you think that that is? Because that's fucking weird 1.

[Joe Budden]

Because the 60 year olds are not the demo that made BBL's famous and popular. 2. Because the 20. Because the 60 year olds are going after the same men that 25 year olds are going after. That puts you in direct competition with 25 year olds.

[Parks]

I think that that's an assumption on your part.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, which part?

[Parks]

That they're going for the Same men that 25 year olds are going for. I think that's an assumption.

[Joe Budden]

Now we have proof that they're going after the same men. That's not me assuming we have proof of that.

[Ice]

Okay, so Bill Belichick got a 20 something.

[Joe Budden]

They all are going after the 25 year old.

[Parks]

That's fucking gross, by the way.

[Joe Budden]

But it's happening.

[Parks]

But hold on.

[Joe Budden]

So how old is Madonna's boyfriend?

[Ice]

Like cherished years.

[Parks]

Cher's boyfriend's like 36.

[Joe Budden]

Madonna's boyfriend is younger than that.

[Parks]

28 or something like that.

[Joe Budden]

Plenty of points that say they're in competition with the 25 year old.

[Parks]

But that's not to say that the average 60 year old wants a 28 or 35 or 36 year old.

[Melissa Ford]

We're not talking about the average though, okay? We talking about them.

[Joe Budden]

I don't think the average 60 year old is going to get a BBL.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, we're not talking about the average.

[Parks]

I don't know. I see bus drivers with fucking bbls and like they're fucking.

[Joe Budden]

When do you see bus drivers?

[Ice]

That's just.

[Parks]

That's that cushion.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Ish]

When you want a bus.

[Joe Budden]

You ain't seen a bus since that Tyrese video. You ain't seen a bus?

[Parks]

Not. Not meaning I've been on the bus. I'm just talking about.

[Joe Budden]

Drivers are not where you frequent either.

[Parks]

Crosses your timeline. You see, you know, quote unquote, regular women cops, bus drivers, whatever, who like to show the side by side of what she looks like during the day and what she looks looks like during the evening. Women in military clothing.

[Joe Budden]

Those women are typically 60 years old.

[Parks]

Okay, but 40 years old, like the.

[Joe Budden]

Cop that we were talking about on the fatty on the last episode. I mean, she's in this conversation, but she's not 60 years old.

[Parks]

She's not 60 years old.

[Ish]

She'S got the cake.

[Ice]

Listen, don't need to be here.

[Parks]

We are. We are projecting onto Vivica. We're projecting the fact that we think. We're assuming that she got the bbl because.

[Joe Budden]

Can I ask you a question?

[Ish]

Yeah, that'll finish.

[Joe Budden]

No, I'm shooting at her.

[Parks]

Go ahead.

[Joe Budden]

Men that you have coveted in the last two years, do you think that 25 year olds are not in that ballpark?

[Parks]

Abso fucking lutely. Oh, wait. Oh, sorry.

[Ice]

Sorry.

[Joe Budden]

In direct competition with whatever the 25 year old woman is doing.

[Parks]

I'm no.

[Joe Budden]

How.

[Ish]

Why not?

[Joe Budden]

No, explain it to me.

[Parks]

Because I'm not looking. I'm not thinking about another woman being my competition. When I'm in. In when I'm talking to somebody, I'm not thinking about who else is he seeing. I'm not thinking like that. I'm not. I'm actually, I'm thinking to myself, is this a person that I want to continue talking to? Is this somebody that I see that our values and our. You know, fucking like you're being dismissive of my point.

[Joe Budden]

You may not be thinking about it, but it's what is. I'm not saying that you're thinking about it, but it's what exists.

[Parks]

I'll give you that.

[Joe Budden]

And just in it exists, existing. Doesn't that put you in?

[Parks]

I will.

[Melissa Ford]

Even if you're not competing.

[Ish]

All right, fellas.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. You might not ever think about it, but you might not mean it's not.

[Melissa Ford]

Happening, but you're in the competition with that person.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Or that group.

[Parks]

Then I am oblivious to the competition.

[Joe Budden]

Okay?

[Parks]

Okay, that's it. I'm oblivious to the competition. I don't consider it. I don't think about it.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay, now that's you.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

Now some other people may be aware of that competition.

[Parks]

Entirely possible.

[Melissa Ford]

And now it's okay, I gotta compete with that. I have to tighten this up because I know what the 25 year old look like. I know what the 25 year old true and true. So that's where in competition with them come from.

[Parks]

True. However, she also might look in the mirror and say this is what I want to fix about myself. Because every time I look in the mirror I want to see this look like this. She could, you know what I'm saying.

[Joe Budden]

To get part of the mouth.

[Parks]

You're right. I am going to stab you. There's a nice block of knives.

[Joe Budden]

Insane throwing out there.

[Parks]

I'm not, I'm.

[Joe Budden]

You know, y'all ain't competition with a 25 year old. You notice, hey, when you go to blue with the Hudson and sit at the sexy side of the bar, it ain't you and a bunch of 60 year olds. What are you doing in here right now?

[Parks]

I am. Maybe I'm the exception to the rule where I really am never. I'm oblivious to competition.

[Ish]

You just keep yourself in shape and in tone. Because.

[Parks]

And that's the other thing, is it.

[Ish]

Makes you feel good about yourself.

[Parks]

The only person. Person I'm in competition with is myself. That's it.

[Ish]

Okay.

[Parks]

That's it. That's all. That's it. That's all.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Cause you want to feel good about yourself. You don't care.

[Parks]

I want to be healthy even.

[Joe Budden]

That's gap at 50. At 50 years old, there's nothing wrong with a little muffin top.

[Melissa Ford]

That's.

[Joe Budden]

But she.

[Melissa Ford]

I say that.

[Joe Budden]

No, no.

[Parks]

It might be okay for you.

[Joe Budden]

She would say different.

[Parks]

Yeah, I don't want it.

[Joe Budden]

It's not. Not healthy for a 50 year old to have a muffin top.

[Parks]

No, it's not. However, see, we gotta get with some of this.

[Joe Budden]

What do Parks call it? This box body dysmorphia. Just Internet.

[Parks]

However, yo, you could.

[Joe Budden]

Hey. If you just had a baby. It is. It is. In real life, it's not expected of you to snap back.

[Parks]

Oh, yeah, I'm not. No.

[Joe Budden]

In real life, you're 50 years old and have a little bit of muffin top.

[Parks]

All right, that's fine. But maybe. Hold on.

[Joe Budden]

You don't have to.

[Parks]

Let me tell you.

[Melissa Ford]

And depend on your profession.

[Parks]

You definitely.

[Joe Budden]

You don't have to. You. There's options today. Okay, But. But because there's options. Options. Like, I'm not on that. Because there's options. Shouldn't totally dismiss that. It's okay at 50 years old to have this.

[Parks]

It is. First of all, it is unwise to allow weight to accumulate in the trunk of your body. This is where all your organs are. And the more weight that you accumulate in this part of your body, that is visceral fat. Okay. It is unhealthy. You want to get rid of that. That's number one. Number two, I don't necessarily agree with, like a surgical procedure like that just because of the trauma that it does to the body. That's it. I'm not judging anybody, but that is a really, really specific decision to make. And if that's what she wanted to do and that's what she wanted to do and she, you know, there's a lot of risks involved.

[Joe Budden]

She looked like the mother ladybug.

[Ish]

Yep.

[Parks]

That just is scary to me. That just is scary to me. Like, that's just scary. Just, just, like the. The health implications are just scary to me. That's more what I'm thinking of when I see her.

[Ish]

I've been trying to find a picture.

[Joe Budden]

She look like I'm too mature. I can't have fun like I would have. I want to tell y'all all the things that she look like. That shit looks absolutely nuts. And it ain't moving too.

[Ish]

I don't know.

[Melissa Ford]

It got settled.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know where she went.

[Melissa Ford]

It got settled.

[Joe Budden]

She got to settle.

[Parks]

Yeah, just go get some wood therapy. Please move that edema around.

[Joe Budden]

Wait.

[Ish]

No, no, no.

[Joe Budden]

Wait.

[Ish]

Hold on. They said this meeting, this meet and greet is for Vivica's hair collection in Houston. This has nothing to do with a bbl.

[Joe Budden]

So she had a BBL when she went?

[Ish]

Yeah, but we can't say she threw a party for bbl. Nigga, I'm not saying wrong news.

[Joe Budden]

I'm only talking about getting a BBL at 60 years old. If you're not a as wella.

[Melissa Ford]

Abuela.

[Joe Budden]

Abuela. Cuz, they there. Abuela.

[Melissa Ford]

Abuela.

[Joe Budden]

They are there. They getting it. Abuela is 65. 7. Hold on.

[Ish]

Wait, wait, wait.

[Joe Budden]

They going to get it.

[Ish]

And they're admitting that they're in competition with the young.

[Joe Budden]

They admitt that look.

[Ish]

You see my daughter and that look.

[Parks]

All right.

[Ish]

You see my daughter, that look.

[Joe Budden]

All right.

[Melissa Ford]

They go get the right.

[Ish]

He want both of us.

[Ice]

Hold on.

[Ish]

Now, Esmeralda admitted that as Morrell. This is heat. There's always black people that's trying to downplay some. Oh, I'm not in competition with nobody.

[Parks]

So hold on one second here. Did she in fact get a bbl?

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Parks]

Or is this just a hair care line celebration?

[Joe Budden]

No, see, this is why you make me mad. I know you know what a BBL looks like. Melissa Ford. And you saw the picture.

[Parks]

She could just be wearing some, like, shaping garment.

[Ish]

I think it's shaping garment. I see it on the edge of her. The edge of her white pants.

[Joe Budden]

All right, then a shaping.

[Parks]

I'm putting a BBL on Ms. Viva, and she didn't get one.

[Joe Budden]

She has a BBO.

[Parks]

If she didn't say so, then. If she did not say so, then we can't speculate.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, we going back to that, cuz. That was a whole time frame before, when it was. No, I didn't get nothing done. This is natural. But niggas knew.

[Parks]

I feel like she would say so.

[Joe Budden]

Rest in peace, Oliver Miller.

[Ice]

For sure.

[Joe Budden]

Rest in peace, Oliver Miller. And. And my man Junior, the NBA businessman. Dude that played in the NBA and then went on to make a billion dollars. What's the name? What's his name? What's the name? Junior? Bridgman. Bridgman, right. Rest in peace, Junior. Bridgman, he passed as well. So. Yeah, that's it. If y'all know anybody that passed, now's the time to shout him out.

[Ice]

I don't know anyone.

[Joe Budden]

Nope. Nope.

[Parks]

Not this week.

[Joe Budden]

No.

[Ish]

No.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Melissa Ford]

Knock on something.

[Ice]

One of my good friends was in the car accident. Lou. Salute. Get well soon, my brother. Get well soon.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, shout him out. Go see him. I gotta jam people up. Go see him. I'm a piece of. Let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see. Vivica bbl. Oh, all right. Puff is saying that CNN has altered. Not only altered that Cassie video that was leaked, but seeing it. Puff is saying that's the only version that existed, so now the original is obsolete.

[Melissa Ford]

He said that?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

They deleted.

[Ice]

You ever seen a Hail Mary before?

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Ice]

This feels Hail Maryish.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ice]

Throwing at the wall. What are you talking about? Yeah, they may have sped it up. They may have edited some parts out. But the parts that we saw are still the parts that we saw.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. But that don't have nothing to do with the court of law because they.

[Melissa Ford]

Trying to get the video thrown out.

[Joe Budden]

And that's why lawyers are saying that it appears that that video will be. Be.

[Ice]

But he's not going to try for this.

[Joe Budden]

It don't matter. They were still trying to show it. They were still trying to show the video.

[Ice]

What the that got to do with rico?

[Joe Budden]

I don't know. But they were trying to show the video. So if we. Trying to get it removed, trying to show a pattern, and you have eliminated the original.

[Ice]

But it's.

[Joe Budden]

Then I went.

[Ice]

I'm lost. I'm confused in this whole. I think that's what they're trying to do on both sides, honestly, is muddy it up.

[Melissa Ford]

CNN put a statement. Statement out. CNN never altered the video and did not destroy the original copy of the footage, which was retained by the source. CNN aired the story about the video several months before Combs was arrested.

[Ice]

So they tried to. They try to what? They say they used a free video editing software. They're just trying. They're trying.

[Parks]

Do you think that Cassie's gonna be called as a witness by the prosecution?

[Melissa Ford]

Absolutely.

[Parks]

So then the video. Video, who gave us a. We all saw it. And now we're going to have a firsthand account from the person who can literally speak to the entire thing.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know if that's how that works. I did one of the jurors act like you've seen that video. I'mma removed to have you removed and have a mischief.

[Parks]

It's impossible. It's. It's impossible. It's impossible. It's just. But that goes with high profile cases. Every single one. Menendez brothers, fucking O.J. simpson. Every single. Everything jurors saw, like, it unfolded in front of their face. The Menendez brothers got a mistrial the first time around. So you think that. That for that second set of jurors didn't see anything. Like, it doesn't matter who you are, what's happened, like, and in this age, you're banned.

[Joe Budden]

The jury, you're banned from the Menendez brothers.

[Parks]

The jury pool is always going to have a certain level of taint.

[Melissa Ford]

That's like in court when they say, oh, the jury, you're instructed. You didn't hear that. No.

[Joe Budden]

Like, you saw it.

[Melissa Ford]

We heard it. Like, you can't take it back. Everybody, you're right. Everybody saw this. You're not going to be able to find a juror to say.

[Parks]

Well, to say, I didn't see it.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, they'll say, I ain't see it.

[Parks]

But you. But you literally can find jurors who, who can say, you know what? I really can be objective. I want to hear what the defense is going to say. I want to hear his case. I want to judge for myself. Regardless of anything that I've seen. I believe that you'll be able to. To find people who feel that way.

[Joe Budden]

And I don't care what y'all talking about, if the whole jury's seen it, but it's not admissible into our court session. That means that in our court session, nothing from that can be brought up. True. So while you testifying, we'll take your testimony. But, but, bro, real talk, if you're.

[Melissa Ford]

A juror and you saw that, even if they don't bring it up in court, your mind is kind of honest.

[Ish]

It's implanted in your brain.

[Melissa Ford]

This nigga a piece of shit.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not arguing what's in nobody's mind. I'm only talking about what you will be allowed to say and not say in court. That's it.

[Ish]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

And it's a. My bag. Hey, don't hit nobody and you won't go through it. There you go. Don't drag nobody. Don't fucking. Don't. Yeah.

[Ice]

In any manner.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Stay away from that type of violence and you'll be cool.

[Ice]

Keep your hands and other appendages to yourself at all times.

[Joe Budden]

That said, the video was edited.

[Melissa Ford]

Hey, R. Kelly tried it.

[Joe Budden]

Did he? Did he try that line.

[Melissa Ford]

Yes.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

It wasn't me. I was digitally imposed in the video.

[Parks]

And then he said it was his brother.

[Melissa Ford]

He said it was his brother? Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah, his brother. I would have tried depending on my brother, too. Hang a lot. They wasn't close. R. Kelly and his brother. And they look alike a little bit.

[Melissa Ford]

That wasn't me.

[Joe Budden]

And I got 70 million in the bank. Some stupid.

[Melissa Ford]

They had to remind.

[Joe Budden]

That was Roger Kelly.

[Melissa Ford]

They had to remind him, though. We saw the whole video where you walked up to the camera and wink.

[Joe Budden]

That's when R. Kelly was trying to sing for Farrakhan. Right? He was trying to clean himself up. Stop.

[Ish]

Stop it. You know? Stop.

[Melissa Ford]

Flip.

[Parks]

Do not.

[Melissa Ford]

Why?

[Joe Budden]

We can't make that joke. Joke. You can't make this go, Joe. But why not, though?

[Ish]

We don't want to know. Let's go, Joe.

[Joe Budden]

It's publicly documented. That felt.

[Melissa Ford]

I know you can make the joke.

[Ish]

Go ahead, say it.

[Joe Budden]

I ain't saying it. I ain't saying it. I'm not saying it.

[Melissa Ford]

Make a joke.

[Ish]

It's documented. And they put it in the movie.

[Melissa Ford]

There you go. You make the joke, then. Flip.

[Parks]

Yeah. You're just.

[Joe Budden]

Brother Flip. I'm joking. I'm not.

[Ice]

I'm not.

[Joe Budden]

Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on. Have you seen. We back. We back. No, it's too much work. We had to edit it out. Come on. Part. Bring your white ass back here. Let's see, let's see, let's see. What do we got? What do we got? What do we. Let's see.

[Ish]

Oh, shit.

[Joe Budden]

So I haven't kept up with this, but the Internet is telling me that some years ago, somebody shot one of K. Flock's friends, and K. Flock heard about it and didn't like it and went to spin in retaliation for the nigga shooting one of his friends. Right?

[Melissa Ford]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

And then that guy, his friend, who he was defending in his trial that started the other day has taken the stand against him. Against him to let people know that he killed them niggas. Oh, shit. So. Oh, wow. I'm not up to date with this. I haven't researched it all. I only bring it up to say to y'all out there that if we friends and somebody shoot at you, and then I go shoot at them defending you.

[Melissa Ford]

You better not.

[Joe Budden]

Never. You have to. Now shut the fuck up.

[Melissa Ford]

You gotta hold it down.

[Joe Budden]

You can't testify against me at all. At all. How would you sleep at night?

[Ish]

Oh, fam.

[Joe Budden]

I killed him for you.

[Melissa Ford]

I was chillin.

[Joe Budden]

At you. I was chillin at that day. I was drinking a little soda on the game with it. Got the phone call. You was all crying, sad. They almost got me. That's all right. Chill, man. I'll be right where you at.

[Melissa Ford]

I got it.

[Joe Budden]

I'mma take care of it, man.

[Melissa Ford]

Rest up, Rest up.

[Joe Budden]

That's up. That's my only take. I think that's up.

[Melissa Ford]

And that's why a lot of. That's why a lot of these today are saying no disrespect, but the streets is a myth.

[Ish]

Now I don't take this a lot.

[Melissa Ford]

Of people saying that like bro, all of the code and that that used to stand up for before. It ain't really there as much no more.

[Ish]

What's his angle in testifying against y'all.

[Joe Budden]

Believe streets is a myth? If you want go out, go outside.

[Ish]

Yeah. It's not a man.

[Melissa Ford]

No, I'm not talking about that part. I'm holding the street.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, that part. That part.

[Ish]

They need to say that. They say that people have to make it clear when they say the street is a myth. Say abiding by principles and morals in the streets is a myth, but the street is not a myth. Then you go outside, you get your.

[Joe Budden]

Dick knocked in a sandbox, you will.

[Melissa Ford]

Get your head knocked off.

[Joe Budden]

It's effective. Hey, when you step outside, it's active. Extremely n. And you niggas on the Internet that step outside and it's not active. When y'all talk, I could tell that it's not active. Where y'all at? And the other place blazers, when you go out, hey, assume that it's on. What's going on in Newark, man? What is happening in Newark?

[Melissa Ford]

So somebody did hit me with some extra information about that too.

[Ice]

What's happening?

[Parks]

What's the backstory?

[Joe Budden]

A 14 year old. A 14 year old murdered a policeman is a big deal. Yeah, it's a big deal in Newark right now.

[Melissa Ford]

I drove, they got the cop and.

[Joe Budden]

When I say murder murdered the. The police. The policeman undercover.

[Ice]

Huh?

[Joe Budden]

This is the. The Y N's reasoning. Undercover pulled up to the scene of the crime. The. The young niggas thought that it was the. It was op lit the car up. Just lit the car up. So the. The cop's partner got away. The guy in the passenger seat got away.

[Ice]

Sheesh.

[Joe Budden]

The policeman died.

[Ice]

Rest in peace.

[Joe Budden]

So it's like a big thing in Newark right now. So they had the memorial over there where he was killed. Yeah. And then the young came over there and the memorial Up.

[Ice]

Oh.

[Parks]

Oh, wow.

[Joe Budden]

So in my head I'm like, well, why would you the memorial up. But I guess the young are mad because y'all got my man. It was an undercover. You came over here like it was something different. So we don't know what it is. So we doing what we supposed to do and now we. We down.

[Melissa Ford]

When it first went out, they made it seem like. Like. I mean, they made it seem like he was in off.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

But my man hit me and was just like, yo. It was a. Under. Under unmarked vehicle. They were in plain clothes and really thought somebody was about to had to drop on them. So they jumped in defense mode.

[Ice]

I don't know if that's gonna work as soon.

[Melissa Ford]

It's not gonna work. No, it's not.

[Joe Budden]

No.

[Melissa Ford]

I mean just.

[Joe Budden]

They didn't.

[Melissa Ford]

We just explained it the way the story went out. Young logic, like went out and targeted and killed the cop.

[Ice]

Yeah, got it. Got it.

[Joe Budden]

And it wasn't.

[Melissa Ford]

And that it wasn't that Got it.

[Ice]

Got it.

[Melissa Ford]

And that's what they.

[Joe Budden]

That.

[Melissa Ford]

That's their whole thing is like. Yo, don't make it seem like is out here running around trying to kill police because they not like the way this happened is up. But it was like we ain't know he was a cop.

[Joe Budden]

And a few weeks before that it was a story in Jersey City. It's like. It's crazy outside. It is crazy.

[Ice]

It's crazy.

[Melissa Ford]

They got the. The his squad car parked in front of city hall and they made like a whole memorial out of it and everything. Yeah, it's. It's a lot going on over there.

[Ish]

See, I got to do my research on that.

[Melissa Ford]

It's over there yesterday.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, no, it's a big deal. It's a big deal.

[Melissa Ford]

Rest in peace. Big deal.

[Joe Budden]

Rest in peace to that man.

[Ice]

Or.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, rest in peace, cuz.

[Joe Budden]

Godamn I play you.

[Melissa Ford]

Not you you. Why you. Look, you never really know. I've told this instance before. I was sitting outside the school. We was going to open gym, and I had my cousin in the car. A car pull up next to us, and he looked over and was like, what the fuck you looking at? Like, just. We didn't. He didn't know there was cops.

[Ice]

Oh, shit.

[Melissa Ford]

It was a regular white car. They cut us off, jumped out, badges around their neck, searched us the whole.

[Joe Budden]

But you.

[Melissa Ford]

If it was something else. And we could have been in that same situation if he was on that type of time. You really don't. You don't be knowing sheesh but rest in peace, man.

[Joe Budden]

Just.

[Melissa Ford]

Just be careful out there, bro.

[Ice]

Yeah. Word.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, what's up? Anybody got some fun weekend plans?

[Ish]

Of course we do.

[Joe Budden]

Fun weekend plans?

[Ish]

Of course we do.

[Joe Budden]

Anybody lit out there this weekend? Anybody turned up this weekend? Hot dates this weekend? Anybody bringing the cars out this weekend?

[Ish]

Spending some money this weekend? What the is going on this weekend?

[Joe Budden]

What we doing this weekend?

[Ish]

Me.

[Joe Budden]

Ego.

[Ish]

All right, what else we got? What else we got?

[Joe Budden]

What else we got can be lit.

[Ice]

With this fucking Hennessy raise that's about to happen. And champagne.

[Parks]

What?

[Ice]

Wait, what the terror. He's putting the tariff on fucking European alcohols.

[Joe Budden]

Trump.

[Parks]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ice]

I'm not a fan of this personally. Jameson Hennessy, Champagne. Good gin.

[Joe Budden]

McAllen.

[Ice]

Yeah, she's been English.

[Joe Budden]

He's trying to.

[Ice]

He said get some American champagne.

[Melissa Ford]

You know, there is none.

[Parks]

There's no such thing. You.

[Ice]

In America is sparkling water or sparkling wine.

[Parks]

I said troglodyte.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah. But what do you think about yo.

[Melissa Ford]

While we here?

[Parks]

I think they never hurt anybody.

[Ice]

I don't think that's the proper terminology.

[Joe Budden]

Wrong.

[Ish]

No, it's not.

[Ice]

Yes, it is.

[Ish]

Say five times the talk of my. All right, hold on.

[Joe Budden]

I'm saying you can't say that.

[Melissa Ford]

Say that weirdos.

[Ish]

Say that weirdos.

[Joe Budden]

Are y'all nuts? Let.

[Ish]

Let me go to chat. GPT.

[Parks]

What's Jack GPT gonna tell you?

[Ice]

Yo.

[Melissa Ford]

I hate to be you, Parks.

[Joe Budden]

All right, somebody tell me about Trump selling out.

[Ish]

Okay, it's outdated and can be seen as offensive. Today, it's.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Ish]

Cross dressing.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, we're telling you that.

[Ish]

All right.

[Joe Budden]

We're telling you that.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Tell me about Trump selling Teslas.

[Parks]

Well, there has been a significant drop in Tesla stock. People are trying to trade in their Teslas en masse since the rocket blew up. No, it's been. Since Elon has become our president. Yeah, people are. This is their way of revolting. There has been a lot of vandalism at Tesla dealership ships and out in the public.

[Ish]

Like, people. People.

[Parks]

People are also like, yeah, they are, but other people who own, like, cybertrucks that can't give them the fuck away. They're relabeling them. Like, I saw a cybertruck that had Toyota on the back.

[Ice]

Oh, shit.

[Parks]

So in response to that, I'll still get. Trump decided to make a test Tesla commercial on the.

[Ice]

I was wondering why I said Tesla.

[Parks]

Because he said Tesla. Tesla. He said Tesla's are great cars.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

That's why they had all of the Teslas in front of the White House and he was picking which one he was gonna get.

[Parks]

Yeah, on the mall.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

This is like. I don't drive, but, you know, it's a great car, so I'm gonna have somebody drive it with me in it.

[Ice]

This is just grifting.

[Parks]

It's the biggest grift in US history since slavery.

[Ish]

What is that?

[Joe Budden]

Whoa.

[Ish]

What is that for the. What is grifting mean?

[Parks]

Grift is theft heist right in front of our eyes.

[Ice]

I don't know if that's.

[Joe Budden]

Is that what Griffin.

[Ice]

Yeah, I think Griffin means, like, let me go get a little definition.

[Parks]

There's a movie called, like the Grifters Girl.

[Ish]

You basing your definition of a movie?

[Parks]

No, it's a term. Park said it first.

[Ice]

She'll pass that book.

[Joe Budden]

No, but it's.

[Parks]

It's true.

[Ice]

A person who is. Engages in petty or small. Small scale swindling.

[Joe Budden]

You're a grifter. It's. Oh, yeah. Actually, you pass that back right now.

[Parks]

We. You know what?

[Joe Budden]

You're a grifter.

[Parks]

You know what? For men who really say to women, like, you know, can we let the past be in the past? Y'all sure like to bring up the past.

[Melissa Ford]

Present.

[Parks]

It is now in the far. It's. It's. It's not even the recent past.

[Joe Budden]

Would you consider yourself a grifter?

[Parks]

No.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Parks]

No.

[Joe Budden]

All right, moving on. I'm with Mel. She say. She say no, then it's no. Just on the strength of having a pussy advantage.

[Melissa Ford]

She won.

[Ish]

Sure the fuck does.

[Parks]

Yeah. Anyways, is that gonna make you guys run out and buy a Tesla?

[Ice]

No.

[Ish]

No.

[Parks]

A Tesla. Okay.

[Melissa Ford]

I still want a cybertruck, so.

[Ice]

Yeah, well, you might get cheap now.

[Melissa Ford]

I know now that I heard this, I'm gonna go look again.

[Joe Budden]

I was never going to buy a Tesla. Tesla. I wasn't. That was off the menu when the car locked homie in there and killed him.

[Parks]

Oh, yeah, yeah. The cyber truck in Vegas.

[Ish]

I thought that was intentional. The one in Vegas.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, that was.

[Parks]

Sure.

[Joe Budden]

That was some evil.

[Parks]

The same like. Same thing that Trump was almost assassinated.

[Joe Budden]

Assassinated. I'm going back to watch Terminator 2.

[Ish]

Me too.

[Parks]

To see how the world ends.

[Melissa Ford]

That might be that one.

[Joe Budden]

I think Terminator 2. I saw a meme the other day that was like, not enough is said about Terminator 2. And it's a great one. And I couldn't agree more.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Because we didn't become, you know, fact.

[Joe Budden]

That's one of the great. Outside of that. That movie for when it was Released is one of the greatest sequels ever.

[Ice]

It is probably the greatest sequel ever.

[Parks]

Agreed.

[Joe Budden]

It might be the greatest sequel ever.

[Ice]

It might be.

[Joe Budden]

And I'm talking about the one with the cop, homeboy.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I would argue that that's probably one of the greatest sequels to ever come out of movie land.

[Parks]

Yeah. And those special effects, especially back then, that was excellent. It was excellent.

[Joe Budden]

Them shits would look good today. That was 91.

[Melissa Ford]

And that looked good like that.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, they got it.

[Ish]

We.

[Melissa Ford]

We boot that one if y'all want to.

[Ice]

No, they've been making them steadily ever since.

[Melissa Ford]

No, we do it. Start over. Do it today with the cameras.

[Ice]

They never stopped doing.

[Parks]

You know what I heard they're trying to remake?

[Ice]

Oh, no.

[Parks]

The Bodyguard.

[Ice]

Oh, God.

[Parks]

You know with who? They don't know, but some names have been tossed around. No, Tiana was one of the names that was thrown around. It's. It's so far from being made.

[Joe Budden]

Who's the dude?

[Melissa Ford]

What names were they?

[Ice]

Mufasa Still Kevin Coster.

[Joe Budden]

Mufasa. Still Kevin. Outside White power, yo, that's white privilege. If Kevin Costner get that job at 107 years old, that is white power. Still white power. While we on this, another. Another movie I wanted to come and talk to y'all about. Cuz since I've been in the house recently, I just been watching. Watching old movies and shit like Terminator 2. Fucking social network. Was the talk ever had about Save the Last Dance?

[Ice]

Probably. That movie was. Was not a very good movie.

[Joe Budden]

And I think that's why we people skip talking about it the way it should have been talked about. At some point, somebody should discuss Save the Last Dance and.

[Melissa Ford]

You all right?

[Ish]

You good?

[Melissa Ford]

My.

[Joe Budden]

No, I'm telling you.

[Melissa Ford]

I follow.

[Parks]

Right after that, like some kind of wonderful.

[Joe Budden]

No, I follow a bunch of. Mel is a real life movie buff. I follow a bunch of movie buffs. So sometimes on a late night, them niggas will get high and just start getting in their movie bag and they'll be like, yo, what the fuck was up in this movie then?

[Melissa Ford]

You gotta go watch it now. Like, you know what?

[Joe Budden]

And then I'm like, well, let's see. So the white girl that got into Juilliard doing the hip hop dances, which.

[Ice]

Were not hip hop dances.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, wait, wait. She broke her hip or something. She broke something. So she couldn't do her normal dances. So she wasn't gonna go for the Juilliard acceptance thing. But then her black dick boyfriend, that she had convinced her to do it. Cause he taught her Some hip hop moves. And then she went up there looking stupid. And that's me skipping the whole.

[Ice]

That was a really good plot.

[Joe Budden]

And that's me skipping the beginning and the middle of this dumb, stupid ass movie.

[Ish]

Oh, no. The white guy came in.

[Joe Budden]

Was he? Why not? A black guy tore that hip hop dance?

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, it was a black dude.

[Ish]

The different movie. The white guy was. You're thinking of the white guy that was dancing with the girl in hip hop. Man, what movie is this?

[Joe Budden]

I want to know. This sound funnier in that.

[Parks]

With Channing Tatum and Jenna Duan. Isn't that what you tell.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God, it is Jenna Dwan.

[Ish]

What's the name of it? Moot Mill Chen's the Janitor.

[Joe Budden]

Some is Usher in it.

[Ish]

Oh, Chan Tatum. Yeah, man. This is the. Hold up, hold up. He was young.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Started.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Ice]

Bunch of.

[Joe Budden]

No, but save the last dance. When she learned the hip hop dances to get her in Juilliard. Please. We gotta bring it back up. Step up, Step up. Step Up. Oh, my God. Usher was supposed to be in stuff.

[Ish]

Step Up. That.

[Parks]

But didn't they have, like sequels to that?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, Step up, too.

[Parks]

And.

[Melissa Ford]

Yes, they do.

[Ish]

What was that movie?

[Parks]

Tango Nights or something?

[Joe Budden]

Usher was it. Was it Light it Up, honey.

[Parks]

Was it Honey, Light Up.

[Joe Budden]

What was the Usher movie in school?

[Melissa Ford]

The Faculty.

[Ice]

Oh, the Faculty.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, no, no, that was a movie. The Faculty is a movie.

[Ice]

I sure might have been in the.

[Ish]

I think he was shot.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

In the mix.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, that's some kid.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, he was in the Faculty.

[Ish]

Yeah, he was a young. In high school.

[Ice]

Yeah, he was.

[Joe Budden]

Is that the movie?

[Parks]

Light it up was in 1999. In the mix. 2005.

[Joe Budden]

Light it up.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

See, I know I'm not crazy. Light it up. Yeah, y'all. But shout out to the faculty. What else? What else?

[Ice]

She's all that. Not.

[Parks]

Honey. Yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

Did you watch the Gorge?

[Ish]

I like. She's all that.

[Joe Budden]

Did I watch what? The Gorge. No, I did not watch the Gorge yet. And I have not seen Mel's movie yet. Those are the two movies I haven't seen yet. I'm gonna get to it, Okay?

[Melissa Ford]

I want to hear you.

[Joe Budden]

No, I started the pit.

[Melissa Ford]

Hbo.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm not watching that.

[Ice]

I don't. That's a hospital.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, I'm good. I'm good on the hospital shits.

[Joe Budden]

I feel like if you've seen House, then you can't. And. And what's the other one? Gray's Anatomy.

[Melissa Ford]

Grace Anatomy.

[Joe Budden]

If you've seen ER is another one. Er? No, no, no. That's what my list stops at. House, ER and Gray's Anatomy. Yeah, if you've seen those three, it's going to be real tough to pull off the hospital show. The Pit looks good because it looks.

[Ice]

Like it's a dude from er, isn't it?

[Parks]

Noah. Noah Wiley.

[Ice]

Yeah, he was on er.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, it looks like an old FX series series on Max. Good.

[Ice]

Okay.

[Parks]

Like no, that would be great. Like no, it's good.

[Joe Budden]

It looks good and it's good. But it's not House and ER and Gray's Anatomy and it's Pittsburgh.

[Ice]

That genre is not. I'm over that genre.

[Joe Budden]

Or if it's not Pittsburgh, they're just calling it the Pit. My problem with the Pit is is there's nothing really going on so far. But sick people in the hospital, like that's it.

[Ice]

It's not a very compelling story or nothing.

[Joe Budden]

The story so far I've only seen five episodes and it's mad episodes. There's like 2015. It's a long season. Oh, it's a lot of episodes.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm not mad at that.

[Joe Budden]

All I've seen is commotion with the patient.

[Parks]

All right.

[Joe Budden]

I haven't seen much story with the people that actually work in the hospital. Maybe I haven't gotten there yet, but that's to me, what separated House and these shows from the other hospital shows is the doctors had some shit going on.

[Parks]

Absolutely. It's a realistic examination of challenges facing healthcare workers in America as seen through the lens of the frontline heroes working in the modern day hospital in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

[Ice]

With all respect to health care workers.

[Joe Budden]

I'm cool, I'm good.

[Parks]

I do like a hospital drama.

[Joe Budden]

It's pretty cool. One of the stories, I'm sorry, One of the stories about the patients, let's say a 60 year old mom is brought in by her 18 year old child. He just turned 18. They're trying to figure out what's wrong with the mom. Once they get the 18 year old out of there, the mom says, listen, I made it look like he was bringing me here cause I needed some help. But in reality I'm really worried about my son. And I found a note in his book bag that said he planned on causing havoc and harm to people at his school. Is there anything that y'all could do?

[Ice]

Oh, interesting already than how you were describing it.

[Joe Budden]

Well, but again it's just patient related. Whatever interesting is coming from the show is coming from the patient. The patients, they are interesting.

[Ice]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

They are interesting.

[Ice]

They're like super procedural.

[Melissa Ford]

They connect.

[Parks]

But eventually, does each episode connect?

[Joe Budden]

I haven't seen that yet.

[Melissa Ford]

I sound.

[Parks]

I'm pretty sure it will. And eventually they're gonna have five episodes already. But eventually they're gonna.

[Joe Budden]

At some point, eventually they're gonna have.

[Parks]

Intertwining story lines where the doctors are, like, involved with each other, nurses and stuff. Like, I'm pretty sure, because one of.

[Joe Budden]

These little intern girls, her parents work at the hospital. It feels like they setting up to have some storyline coming. I just haven't gotten it yet.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, I read it and I was like, I'm cool.

[Ice]

It could be a. Like a procedure like Law and Order or something. They don't really connect. I mean, there's a little bit of.

[Melissa Ford]

There's one main story that goes through the seasons, and then each episode is its own story.

[Parks]

Dick Wolf's Chicago Med is.

[Joe Budden]

If you're not careful with Law and Order. Law and Order connects sometimes.

[Ice]

It does.

[Melissa Ford]

Always connects.

[Parks]

What's his name? The gray haired dude who's now the lawyer that helps in Law and Order. Sbu.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, watch this.

[Parks]

What's his name?

[Joe Budden]

None of us know it. Mel.

[Parks]

Okay. All right. Well, they. We know that, you know, there's some cross pollination, like relationships develop behind, you know, behind the scenes.

[Ice]

But you can watch any individual episode, and it'd just be about a case.

[Parks]

A case. Yes, absolutely.

[Melissa Ford]

Yo, also, the show I told y'all about, Dope Thief.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Is that good?

[Melissa Ford]

It launched Friday.

[Ice]

I put it on my little thingy thing.

[Melissa Ford]

They put two episodes out. I did get the first one done. So far, so good. You know, Apple ain't been missing.

[Ice]

Yeah, well, that Severance is.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, you know, I'm glad you said that. I was coming in to say. Right. I have not started the new season of Severance because I was letting it build up.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

Hey, dog.

[Joe Budden]

But I ain't heard a peep about it. I don't hear nobody talking about it. Writing about it should have been weird, bro.

[Ice]

Hard to follow.

[Joe Budden]

That's what I want to say. If Severance is too weird now for y'all to keep up and be excited about it, then say that. That versus, hey, this is the best show on television.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, no, we.

[Joe Budden]

We.

[Melissa Ford]

It's weird. Yeah, it's got.

[Ice]

I'll keep watching it. I have faith that at some point there'll be a grand reveal. But this season has been slow and confusing and boring.

[Parks]

Yeah, right.

[Melissa Ford]

For real.

[Joe Budden]

Bill Burton. Who Stand up on Hulu.

[Ice]

I am gonna watch that Bill burn new.

[Joe Budden]

Stand up.

[Ice]

He did an interview somewhere that I want to watch, too. Some podcast. Podcast. I love Bilber.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I love him, too.

[Melissa Ford]

He's the man.

[Ice]

One of those early Apple shows. I can't remember what the was called now.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, I did.

[Ice]

They put a new season out for us. The She's a girl that gets, like, amnesia, falls off a boat, robs her man for all the money. Moves to Acapulco. No, no, something else. I'm sorry. I forgot the name.

[Melissa Ford]

Anyway, it's pretty good, though. I did watch Surface. Surface?

[Ice]

Yes.

[Melissa Ford]

I did watch Silo all the Way Caught Up. You will love it. I think you will love it, too.

[Ice]

That's a little sci fi vibe, right?

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Well, I saw season one, Asylum.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, okay.

[Joe Budden]

Well, I just didn't see season two.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay. Silo's Fire.

[Ice]

How many seasons?

[Melissa Ford]

Two.

[Ish]

Two.

[Ice]

Oh, okay.

[Joe Budden]

It's only two.

[Melissa Ford]

Ten episodes each.

[Ice]

Oh.

[Melissa Ford]

Season three. This will be dropping sometime later this year. Okay, but shout out to every. Everybody's been saying, yo, if you like paradise, you'll really like Silo. I see the paradise parallels Silo's fire, though.

[Joe Budden]

The TV is really important to me in my 40s.

[Melissa Ford]

I love.

[Joe Budden]

Honestly. Yes, I know. That just sounds like a regular, plain statement. I'll be in there reading the paragraphs to Mad Shows.

[Melissa Ford]

The best thing is that little add to my list button.

[Joe Budden]

Now.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, that's it. Yeah, you read some. Oh, add it. I get to it later.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah, that's true. All right, so we're done with tv. We're done with music. We're done with current events. We're done with gender wars. We're done with dog palling. I think we did it. I think we did it.

[Melissa Ford]

We ain't got nothing in sports, right?

[Ice]

No, nothing. No, this is.

[Melissa Ford]

Hey, Aaron Rodgers is still not on.

[Ice]

My team, so one day at a time, brother.

[Melissa Ford]

I'll take it.

[Joe Budden]

Did anybody go? Before we leave TV shows. I don't know if I said this before in this part. Has anybody seen the OG J. Manhunt on Netflix?

[Ice]

No. Pass.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm good.

[Ice]

That's back to the documentaries I don't need to see any more of.

[Joe Budden]

I'm good.

[Ice]

Unless you tell me something completely different that is captivating and amazing or someone else does, but I haven't heard nobody talk about it.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, well, it is captivating and amazing.

[Ice]

Oh, really? Okay. Still don't know if I want you to.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I'm about to say I don't know if that's the sales pitch. It's captivating and amazing. In the sense that some of the people from the. From the case they're speaking to currently.

[Ice]

Oh, okay.

[Joe Budden]

Which is exciting.

[Ice]

That's different.

[Joe Budden]

If you want to hear what Furman has to say.

[Ice]

Oh, they got Furman.

[Joe Budden]

Furman is right there.

[Ice]

Oh, that's a little extra.

[Joe Budden]

That's what I'm saying.

[Ice]

That's a little interesting.

[Joe Budden]

That's what I'm saying. Furman is there, however old he is, and they're showing him clips of the racist shit from the stand, and they like making him answer for it.

[Melissa Ford]

So which one? So what you think? What you got to say about.

[Ish]

I mean, he answered. He answered. I think he answered good. It was a time, you know, back in the days. I mean, he.

[Ice]

Doesn'T sound good at all.

[Ish]

It was back then. No, it was back then. He was in a different space.

[Melissa Ford]

He was not racist anymore.

[Ish]

No, he was in a different space. I mean, he answered it.

[Joe Budden]

That is not what a different space was made up for.

[Ish]

Some was racist back then, man.

[Ice]

It was the 90s.

[Joe Budden]

You were alive 30 years ago.

[Ish]

I was alive. I'm just saying. I'm telling you what the white man said, yo, it was a different type of support. I had a skewed view.

[Joe Budden]

He didn't say all that.

[Ish]

You didn't feel. That's not true. The white man that was sitting there, that was racist on the fucking stand.

[Joe Budden]

He said, yo, my bad. I can't defend it. Oh, shit. He said, I can't defend it.

[Ish]

He also said he said all that stuff.

[Joe Budden]

Thank you.

[Ish]

But he prefaced it with, I can't defend that ba.

[Joe Budden]

I can't defend it. Anybody that sees that, and it's like, oh, yeah, you racist piece of up. I got to wear that when I die. I know that the headline is going to say, this is a racist piece of. And while I don't feel like that, I was up back then, but I get it. I can't defend it. So I won't try to. Yeah, that accountability was. It was good to watch.

[Ish]

I agree.

[Joe Budden]

It was good to watch.

[Ice]

That's something.

[Joe Budden]

I guess they showed him every one of the. I plead the fifth on that one. I plead the fifth on that one. One, too. That one, too. You got. Give me some. A little bit of fifth. Give me some fifth on that one. Little pinch of. Oh, my God, man. That for racist.

[Ice]

That's crazy. Maybe I'll check it out if I get bored.

[Melissa Ford]

No, sir, I'm good.

[Joe Budden]

I was somewhere the other day seeing the kid, the racist kid. They all say, mommy, it's that and.

[Melissa Ford]

Wait, what?

[Ish]

Move on.

[Joe Budden]

It's fine like that. Yeah. Ain't even the most racist part of interactions now. It's like the other one.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, it's there. Oh, can we. Can we move on? I'm done. All right, That's. I mean.

[Melissa Ford]

How old?

[Joe Budden]

It don't matter. We are moving on. We already moved on.

[Ice]

Was it like.

[Joe Budden]

I swear, y'all don't know. Move on.

[Ice]

Okay.

[Parks]

All right.

[Joe Budden]

I don't have anything else that's near and dear pressing on my heart that I need to get out and share with my audience. Do you guys have any? Do you guys have anything?

[Melissa Ford]

Nah.

[Joe Budden]

I'm so mad at Mel. I look Mel dead in her face. Dead in her face. Before the last sleeper segment showed her a song in my phone that was recently purchased and said, did I get this song from you? Is this your sleeper?

[Parks]

And then when he. I was like.

[Joe Budden]

And she said, no, I've never played that. And then I played it. And it's the same exact song that she played a couple of weeks ago.

[Parks]

Was it a couple of weeks ago? No, it was longer.

[Ice]

I don't remember what the song was.

[Joe Budden]

It wasn't that long ago, cuz it was like right there in my recently.

[Ice]

Versus the old whoopsie days.

[Joe Budden]

But that just supports my theory that you know, knowing your sleepers. Oh, no, you don't know your sleepers. You and Ish keep getting people to go sleep.

[Parks]

No, I'm not good. No, I. I agree that in the. I received that.

[Joe Budden]

Wow. It's okay. Nothing wrong with some ghost.

[Parks]

I do the deep dive.

[Joe Budden]

If you don't have a pulse if you don't have a pulse on what's going on.

[Parks]

I do the deep dive. You guys don't even want. You guys wouldn't even be able to handle the. I got in my.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay, you can't handle the ch.

[Parks]

World music over here.

[Melissa Ford]

Got it.

[Ice]

We couldn't handle this.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God. All right, so I am going with Friday. Yo. We did like a quick album review of Friday and kind of never revisited. And then whenever we did revisit it, it was in that deleted episode. That Friday project is really good.

[Ish]

What deleted episode?

[Joe Budden]

It's really good.

[Melissa Ford]

You know the one.

[Joe Budden]

You know the one, the one that we.

[Ice]

Oh, we didn't talk. We didn't talk.

[Joe Budden]

Just shut up.

[Ice]

We didn't talk about that album during that time. We just talked about a bunch of shit you can't talk about.

[Joe Budden]

No. And something that we deleted. I brought up the Friday. The Friday album to say yo, we didn't really touch on this, but now that I've heard it, it's a lot of heat on there.

[Ice]

Damn.

[Joe Budden]

Like, it's a lot of heat on there.

[Ice]

Lift is getting rid of the delta points. Some dub for lift.

[Joe Budden]

All right, Friday.

[Ice]

Sorry.

[Joe Budden]

Fuck you. Let's, let's. Let's hear what Lyft is doing with the delta points. What happened? No, come on.

[Ice]

They used to give you points for.

[Joe Budden]

For delta Lift.

[Ice]

If you use lift, you get points.

[Joe Budden]

And now you don't.

[Ice]

It's over.

[Parks]

That's unfortunate.

[Ice]

Sorry to hijack it, Friday. Okay. I mean, that's important.

[Joe Budden]

That's important.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Anyway, the Friday album is dope. It is. It is dope again for me. Most of that first disc and maybe three to four songs on the second disc. I'm cool with all the over emotional that's on the end of this too. But I'm going to play Saving My Love. This is Friday, featuring Kay, Lonnie and boy is it a bop. Shout out to Friday. Great project, bro. Great project. I'm not mad at.

[Melissa Ford]

God he made you perfect. I'm taking what you serving I know.

[Ish]

I don't deserve you give it to.

[Melissa Ford]

Me like I earned it baby girl you pop out and make I'm nervous.

[Joe Budden]

It'S giving they can't with you when.

[Melissa Ford]

You know it huh.

[Joe Budden]

So bad ain't.

[Melissa Ford]

Nobody going to try you them play with you tonight Shoes if you had.

[Ish]

A twin I would choose you Right.

[Melissa Ford]

Hand on a B girl I hang.

[Joe Budden]

Up my jersey for you Men down.

[Melissa Ford]

On my I'm out the game for.

[Joe Budden]

You girl I'm saving, saving my life.

[Ish]

Let me find out you to go you acting up won't you slide in, come show me lot of girls you.

[Joe Budden]

The only one I want Is it.

[Ish]

Wrong that I want to kiss a bad good night? If I like what I see I'mma.

[Joe Budden]

Double back two times When I get.

[Ish]

To you always throw it back like it's all.

[Melissa Ford]

Them play with you Shoes.

[Joe Budden]

If you had a twin I would.

[Melissa Ford]

Choose you Right hand on a Bible girl is I hang up my jersey.

[Ice]

For you.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm at the game for.

[Ice]

You.

[Melissa Ford]

Let me get you I see.

[Joe Budden]

What you want, what you need I.

[Melissa Ford]

Want great.

[Joe Budden]

Brand new music from Friday featuring Kehlani album in your phones and on DSPs right this second. That record is called Saving My Love again. Friday got a lot of heat on that project. I might play another sleeper Friday from that album next pod. Honestly, I like when that happened.

[Melissa Ford]

When you got a couple jokes.

[Joe Budden]

It's Fire on there should be hot.

[Melissa Ford]

You just keep playing.

[Joe Budden]

I ain't even been playing from my playlist. I just been going to his shit and letting it run for a little bit.

[Melissa Ford]

That's fire. All right. I'm going down south to New Orleans. BG put his first solo album out since being released, and this record is called Freedom of Speech, Also the name of the album.

[Ice]

Let's go.

[Joe Budden]

Christopher.

[Parks]

B.G. dorsey came home last September following a 12 year prison stay. According to these documents obtained by WDSU, the rapper has to appear in a New Orleans court on supervised release conditions. But recent probation violations are putting the former hot boy's freedom in limbo. Part of those conditions means he may.

[Joe Budden]

Have to turn over the lyrics to.

[Parks]

His music to court officials. According to the documents, BG would also have to avoid X Combat.

[Ish]

Man, y'all don't even know what a real nigga have to go through.

[Joe Budden]

But through it all I had it.

[Ish]

All I hold my head up Facts.

[Melissa Ford]

Stay prayed up facts ain't gonna never.

[Joe Budden]

Let them see me sweat Facts stand.

[Ish]

On mine look they thought my career was over and I ain't had no charges cause I ain't do no talking Guess that's why I was a talking been doing the right way I'm focused in them icing tell young guys don't be like me that's free life can't get real pricey this is gonna be.

[Melissa Ford]

Different.

[Ish]

Still listen this life after the of the trenches be locked up on.

[Joe Budden]

My henchman that's that I cannot mention.

[Ish]

I want to tell them stories but I ain't about to risk it See too much in these songs that gonna land your ass in prison I'm happy they free thugger not l dirt in that struggle be careful who around a lot of these undercover be cautious who be around me My own friend tried to cross me this did me up that's why now days I'm a little I do this for soldiers I represent the soldiers I work out just to carry all this weight that's on my shoulders I learned all of my lessons I passed all of my testes I'm still here that's a blessing in these streets I'm a legend in the pen I'm a legend something like Paul in the Bible by every hood I go to tell me that I'm the idol I retire my rival I'm just chasing the people when they all of you haters left nine die later I bow down to no I only feel my makeup I'm dumb only bring to the table I'm only getting greater now that these traders that's why I'm off the streets and just been focused on my labor Been doing this minute and I ain't going nowhere I change so I'm begging please don't make me go there Cause you know that I told there Put you on that list But I'm trying to get rich Stay away from you Keep dropping these hits Never calling it quit Keep popping my keep hitting these licks.

[Parks]

Freedom is in limbo for a former hot boy. The prosecutors have asked Christopher B.G. dorsey to hand over the lyrics to his music as part of his probation. And remember, respond to our request for comments. Dorsey's attorney said this quote, we are looking forward to appearing with Mr. Dorsey and new Orleans and addressing the important legal issues before the court. The rapper says the rules are impacting his freedom of speech.

[Melissa Ford]

And that was freedom of speech. BG album of the same name. Great album.

[Joe Budden]

That's tough.

[Melissa Ford]

It was. It was good. Like, he keeps saying, hey, had to give his lyrics to the court, even get approved. So it's songs where you could tell he want to, you know, go there, but he can't. And he, he, he's. He addressed everything in his verse. I'm in that title track.

[Ice]

That was dope. That was dope. Shout out to bg.

[Melissa Ford]

Shout out to bg.

[Ice]

Shout out to bg. I'm going to New York. This is Ramez and Fortes. Face up when it all falls down.

[Ish]

Who can pick you up? I won't feel the sunshine till I switch it up. Face up when I walk Learn to lift it up up. Throw an arrow through your helix when the sweepstakes and the famine of pharaoh after a phoenix that's ph Balance your hand extends and holds oxygen there's no touching me soon as you get comfy we dump, dump. There's no ducking weed. Build crutches out of brothers Build cutlers out the enemy Build trust funds out of colors. You heard of Wikipedia? Go read for poofy and Satan with a side of sed schwarm Chase atn to get the bread I out. Off with your head now no flies on the helicopters with the leg out like Jean with the Wesleyan shirt They been racist to my face I just smirked till they hurt A natural born hustler My daughter smiles when I drive for 20 miles during the supper get your wife and a kid before the moolah Cause too many faded away off the hoopla People tell me off the music is their medicine Rapping from my Heart cause Padrino fire in a tumor prayer 3,000 miles away don't seem too far Stop wanting to be too far Just be who you are when it all falls down we can pick you up I won't feel the sunshine till I switch it up Face up when I walk Learn it, lift it up Many face gods crack phenomenons It's a foreign car but it's worthless if it's worth your heart Wary of the espionage Put our soldiers in bondage where we are the force patheth wary are the dialogue Take the gangster image off quick Like Chick sprinting home to unclip they bra you exhausted Teach me something new I know you got the money but spend a couple albums it looks funny to us. The hood needs more examples of success. After the passing out of samples Hammers and the boys in blue 50 Cent has the intelligent mind of Steve Jobs. But what if those nine clip the nine lives and died trying? That's why pops lost, hurt US Triple Act 2 Pop Rescue cut short now the devil's on the loose I don't know about y'all but I got something to prove I'm from the Dominican Republic there's only me in these rooms Face up when I walk I learn to lift it up Lift it up lift.

[Ice]

It up lift it up when it all falls down Face up Rodez and Fortes My gosh Big Mill yo.

[Parks]

All right. Mine is called could have been you. It's the remix pastels. Jessica Domingo and Relie.

[Joe Budden]

You listen to it Shut the up. It's just too late still killing you Ish out of here. If only you had made.

[Melissa Ford]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

Keep on coming back to let things go.

[Parks]

To was Once you said that you already high as you want you apologize.

[Joe Budden]

And now you hey.

[Ice]

Little vod section.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, wait a minute. Hey, wait a minute. Hey.

[Ice]

That is the pastels Jessica.

[Joe Budden]

Jessica Dominguez.

[Ice]

Relie could have been you Remix could.

[Joe Budden]

Have been you but you blew it nigga. Now I'm outside with somebody different Facts sorry huh? I understand it now your bad yeah, now I'm outside with somebody different I understand it now yeah that's how I know I'm really old. My new favorite thing that they doing in slang world is I understand it now.

[Melissa Ford]

Basketball.

[Joe Budden]

I mean that's where I saw it at.

[Melissa Ford]

That's why. That's why I saw it.

[Joe Budden]

I saw it and then I just.

[Melissa Ford]

Seen it take off from him from.

[Joe Budden]

Lethal shooters saying I understand it now with every shot but now I'm seeing people say it and what it means is when you in your. When you.

[Melissa Ford]

I get it.

[Joe Budden]

When you hem. For real. For real. Like when you just do some super amazing shit. I understand it now. Bring that back understanding of things.

[Melissa Ford]

Don't want to understand each other no more.

[Joe Budden]

What happened, man? Got the lipstick over there?

[Parks]

No, he had chips in his beard.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, he had lipstick on his teeth. Oh, he had chips in your beard. Yo, like on.

[Ish]

We had a good day today. We had a good day it up now. Don't it up.

[Joe Budden]

It was a good day.

[Ish]

Don't up the moment.

[Joe Budden]

How was my energy? Great.

[Ish]

I think it's.

[Joe Budden]

I think it's a 2012 E. Great image. You said a 12 E. Pause.

[Ish]

But 12am I mean 12.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, God. Oh, midnight. I thought you meant nigga, are you gay? I thought you meant I was on. Don't. You said I had a 12 even.

[Ish]

No, I said I think.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God.

[Ish]

Oh, and you was good. I had to give you a call, man. I mean, I need. We need some of those amongst friends. I would love for you to call me. If you see something wrong, phone with me.

[Melissa Ford]

That is a fact.

[Ish]

Yeah, I need some of that. I had that just. It was on my mind.

[Joe Budden]

I would do it more often if I didn't get attacked. Every time I pointed out something I observed.

[Ish]

But you do it here. You can call somebody phone and tell them about how you feel about their creativity and what.

[Joe Budden]

You're not gonna attack me?

[Melissa Ford]

He's absolutely right.

[Ish]

Not on the phone.

[Joe Budden]

No, he didn't need help. Xbox pre, man. Now you want to help me?

[Melissa Ford]

I don't care.

[Ish]

But Freeze believes in that.

[Melissa Ford]

He believes telling the to do it. I got a.

[Ish]

You know, to do it. Cuz you love your friends. You think you going to hurt somebody or some. You not going to.

[Melissa Ford]

This is a job. Like job have performance call.

[Joe Budden]

Yo know how they doing.

[Ish]

I seen it. He want Ian to call. Hey, buddy. Like, yo, you're not even serious. Like, get off my phone. Hey, buddy, how you doing? Like, get to the straight. Get straight to it.

[Joe Budden]

Sorry.

[Ish]

Yeah, Paul, don't get none of those calls, right?

[Joe Budden]

Oh, big marks. No, no.

[Ish]

We always got robbed by the skate r. Play that Brooklyn. Jo said, I looked up the warehouse.

[Joe Budden]

Look at Mel. Look at Mel.

[Parks]

Out of everybody here. I have lived in Brooklyn.

[Ish]

I lived in Brooklyn.

[Parks]

Sty.

[Ish]

I lived on Franklin and Union. Me, me, me.

[Joe Budden]

Look what y'all got her doing right now.

[Parks]

You said what?

[Melissa Ford]

What Brooklyn, though, cuz, it's.

[Ish]

It's.

[Melissa Ford]

It's New Brooklyn.

[Joe Budden]

Williamsburg. Brooklyn.

[Parks]

I was never in Williamsburg. I was.

[Ish]

You Wasn't in the hood.

[Parks]

I was in bed style year 2000.

[Ish]

When they your papers.

[Parks]

Keep it up. Keep it the up. And then I was in Crown Heights.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God. All right, all right, all right. Enough of you.

[Ish]

Now deal with the Aces.

[Joe Budden]

And then I was in Crown Heights, too.

[Parks]

Niggas from the projects, they had my back.

[Joe Budden]

Ooh. Why?

[Parks]

I don't know.

[Joe Budden]

They just did because they respected women so much. They was raised as good men. They was raised as good men, right?

[Ish]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Ish]

Or did you check in with the og?

[Parks]

I didn't check in with the og. I was in the fucking bodega.

[Joe Budden]

What, was you making promises again?

[Parks]

I wasn't making any promises. I was buying fucking bread. I'm in the bodega one day, and the dude walks up to me. He's like, Yo, Ms. Ford, we got your back. I was like, who the is?

[Joe Budden]

All right, Mel, we got you, girl. Yo, when I tell the audience that Mel tells the stupidest lies. It's not Yo, I was in the bodega one day, and the killer from the neighborhood saw me buying bread and said, yo, Mel, I got your back.

[Melissa Ford]

I got your.

[Joe Budden]

Mel set the mis.

[Parks]

It happened in 2000.

[Ish]

What video was out by that time?

[Parks]

I hadn't done Big Pimping. Big Pimping, Share Shayla, Ghost Thong Song remix and everything before there, but I hadn't done Jadakiss yet.

[Melissa Ford]

That might have happened.

[Ish]

Oh, God. Okay. That might have happened.

[Melissa Ford]

It might have happened.

[Parks]

It did happen.

[Ish]

You was. You was. Them video shoot money was not working for you. Was in the project.

[Parks]

I wasn't in the project. The project was, cuz, you know, it's block to block. You know it was block to block in Brooklyn.

[Joe Budden]

Ice don't know that.

[Parks]

Him, he said he lived in Brooklyn.

[Joe Budden]

Him Ice has no idea.

[Ish]

He was in Crown Heights.

[Joe Budden]

He was down above Prospect Heights out there getting cracked. She talking about I was in a video.

[Parks]

I did. Wait, no. I did come outside and my car was on bricks. Living in Crown Heights.

[Melissa Ford]

Ah, Mel.

[Joe Budden]

No, something else was on bricks.

[Parks]

6:45.

[Ish]

Was like this.

[Joe Budden]

My car was on.

[Melissa Ford]

Brick was out already, too.

[Joe Budden]

All right, we got it.

[Ish]

So you went to, like, the basement, huh? You wasn't, like, living in the basement?

[Parks]

Are you kidding me? I was on the second floor of a brownstone, not the basement. I have a really interesting story about that, but no, I never lived in a basement. Are you kidding me? Never. No basement, no ground floor level ever, Ever?

[Ish]

You got no kids.

[Parks]

It has nothing to do with that. Well, sure, okay. But Also, personal safety. Women should never live on the ground floor of anything.

[Ish]

Why not?

[Parks]

Because a can easily accidentally.

[Ish]

Stop it now.

[Parks]

Oh, my God.

[Ish]

There's a lot of swimming beards. Good men like Imani breaking. That's the point.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, shout out to our brother. Stop by, man. Shout out to.

[Ish]

She just said, I find out you putting that on my. On my. On my family.

[Parks]

No, I meant the comments. They're going to tell you.

[Ish]

Can I get some soon?

[Joe Budden]

Yo, congratulations to Steph Curry. 4,000 threes. 4,000 threes. Big feet. Big feet. Congratulations to him. My chaos days.

[Parks]

To see you on the upper level.

[Joe Budden]

You making me mad. I heard what you said. I heard what you said. Girl.

[Ish]

You know who this is? Mel, you know who this is? Who's rapping?

[Parks]

Nobody's rapping right now.

[Ish]

No, the girl.

[Joe Budden]

Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time.

[Melissa Ford]

This one here. This one coming up.

[Joe Budden]

We bid you a do farewell Adios to rea Diri Osta V. Star V. So long about simple head novels a bunch. Here you go. Yo, remember, life is a series of moments, and moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have until next time. I'm the boy. Critically acclaimed rap in the game.

[Parks]

Are you? Is that a real question?

[Joe Budden]

Look, look how you can rap when you're not focused on dissing straight dudes. She said this was Kim.

[Parks]

I'm joking.

[Melissa Ford]

She said this was Kim.

[Parks]

I'm joking.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, Mel said that this was Kim?

[Ish]

Yes.

[Parks]

You guys need to learn when I'm being facetious.

[Joe Budden]

Big dog. I saw.

[Parks]

How the fuck would I not know.

[Ish]

This quibble was like.

[Melissa Ford]

You don't know who this is?

[Ish]

She looks like you just looked at this.

[Parks]

Seriously, how would I not know that?

[Ish]

You just looked at his laptop on the low. You fast with your eyes. I can see it.

[Parks]

You guys need to learn when I'm being facetious.

[Ish]

No, you're lying.

[Parks]

You guys need to learn how you make up when I'm being facetious.

[Ish]

What's the name of the song?

[Parks]

That I don't know.

[Joe Budden]

And how long was you in line for the bread when homeboy was, like.

[Parks]

Not closing out the sh.

[Ish]

What type of bread was it? Was it like a.

[Parks]

It was Wonder. It was wheat.

[Joe Budden]

Wonder. It was the bundle.

[Ish]

Wait, stop.

[Melissa Ford]

Wheat.

[Joe Budden]

Wonder.

[Ish]

Wheat. Wonder.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, Wheat.

[Parks]

Wonder Bread.

[Joe Budden]

I slap you 44 and I never seen. I don't even know. We wonder. She about to pull up Canada. They probably got it in Tim Hortons.

[Melissa Ford]

It's bimbo.

[Joe Budden]

Now and Tim Hortons. They got it, yo. Lastly, the baddies are insecure. The stagnant women want to travel. The closed minded women think that Wonder Bread had wheat breads. That's not real, man. That's not real. That was never a no more day.

[Ish]

His own is in a wasn't in line.

[Parks]

I said I was in the bodega.

[Ish]

You use the word waiting.

[Parks]

I said I was in the bodega. I was shopping.

[Ish]

Let me guess. You was playing with a cat in a bodega, right?

[Parks]

The cat said I sure the was.

[Ish]

No, I love bodega cats.

[Parks]

They're so friendly.

[Joe Budden]

You got the nerve to do a me out?