
The latest episode from the JBP begins with the Mariah Carey tribute at the iHeart Awards who seemed to be unimpressed with the performances (30:33) which leads the room to discuss tributes needing an overhaul, and which celebrities & artists...
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Joe Budden
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Malcolm
Oh.
Flip
Oh. See, I started recording. I was just yelling. How you doing?
Parks
What's up?
Melissa Ford
I'm good. How you?
Flip
Are you looking at me like that? How you doing? All right. I can't see. I can't see through them glasses.
Parks
As dark as hell.
Flip
Night crawler glasses. I can't see to the cyclops.
Joe Budden
Good.
Ish
Why'd you have your hand up?
Flip
Huh?
Ish
Why'd you have your hand up?
Flip
Meaning that I yield. I yield.
Joe Budden
Okay.
Flip
I yield because we've been using. I digress. Wrong.
Melissa Ford
Yes.
Flip
When somebody been checking me on their social media.
Joe Budden
I digress.
Flip
It's not.
Joe Budden
I yield.
Parks
How do you properly.
Flip
I don't know. You gotta ask him.
Malcolm
But I know we use a lot of words wrong. I just get my chill. I make a list, and every once in a while.
Flip
That's fucked up. You're not doing it.
Malcolm
I feel like once a month I'll intervene.
Flip
You're not down to help us.
Malcolm
Like, today's word is. Y'all say willfully obtuse all the time. Obtuse means to be willfully sort of not understanding. It's redundant to say willfully obtuse, but everybody says it all the time. It drives me crazy. But I said I wouldn't say anything about it. But since it came up.
Flip
Your homegirl said anything about it.
Ish
I absolutely did. Because sometimes you gotta double up on it. Sometimes you gotta double up on yourself. Redundancy.
Joe Budden
All right.
Flip
There you go. You try to put that on us. Are you hungry?
Malcolm
I said us. Us. We don't say that. Other people have said it too.
Ish
I was the last one to use the phrase, and I meant to use it for, like, to double up on it.
Flip
Oh.
Ish
Like literally, when I say your mark, when I say the thing, like, when I say, like, you're so repugnant, the word repugnant finds you repugnant kind of thing. Like, that's my intention.
Joe Budden
Yeah. But let's get back to this wolf leave tooth thing.
Flip
So your intent is to double up? Double shot of expressing your intent is to.
Ish
Sometimes. Sometimes I feel it necessary to do so.
Joe Budden
Yes. What do you think about that?
Malcolm
I think it's a beautiful day outside.
Parks
It is a beautiful day I love you, Mel.
Malcolm
How you doing today? You good?
Ish
I'm fantastic.
Malcolm
Love you, Flip. How you doing, brother?
Flip
I'm doing well.
Joe Budden
I'm on Mel's side in this one. It's like when we say tuna fish.
Malcolm
Right, Right.
Parks
As opposed to a tuna, right?
Ish
Oh, obviously being a tuna.
Flip
It's your tuning. Got it. Okay.
Malcolm
Yeah, right.
Flip
I see the type of shit yellow on.
Melissa Ford
Yeah, they don't for sure.
Malcolm
But we digress.
Parks
Willfully digress.
Flip
I yield. I love y'all. Let get off. We sound crazy sometimes we be especially me sound crazy, yo.
Malcolm
Oh yeah.
Ish
What have you been listening to?
Flip
Just people. Just professors. Hey, yo, you saying a lot of wrong up there.
Malcolm
It's not just you, it's everybody I get.
Flip
Hey, but you don't help. I don't think you for the black man like I thought you was. I don't pretend to be.
Malcolm
Check my phone.
Flip
You was shitting on people.
Malcolm
My lawyer, My attorney. So get with the home team, baby.
Flip
Oh, so you only let me laugh? Let me just laugh. Hold up.
Joe Budden
No, that was really funny.
Flip
Marcus, we gotta ask. Ask him the question. So you don't believe that you have.
Joe Budden
A black lawyer that should be investigated? Yeah, get him, Flip.
Flip
You don't believe you should have a black lawyer?
Malcolm
No, I think you should. I think you absolutely should.
Flip
Can you?
Malcolm
I think a black lawyer.
Flip
Why don't you have a black lawyer? Why don't you have a black agent? Why don't you support our community by putting money back into blacks pockets?
Malcolm
I put money in the blacks pockets every day.
Flip
No, let's talk about that.
Malcolm
The ones that support the blacks.
Flip
What about your lawyer and your attorney?
Malcolm
It just worked out that way.
Flip
Same thing.
Malcolm
Honestly, it just worked out that way. When I went into William Morris Endeavor, I would have happily.
Flip
Don't be shouting at you. Don't be shouting at yourself.
Joe Budden
Hey, put your mic down a little more until your mouth falls. Cause this is about to be awesome. I want to hear every word. I don't want to miss a thing.
Flip
And what doctor you prefer? What type of doctor?
Malcolm
I bought mine, so it don't matter.
Parks
Huh?
Malcolm
That's what I heard.
Ish
No, he didn't say doctorate.
Malcolm
Oh, I'm sorry.
Ish
Yeah, I know. It's okay though.
Parks
Wait, you bought your doctorate?
Malcolm
That's what I heard on the Internet yesterday.
Flip
What did you say? What doctor do you prefer to like to perform an operation?
Malcolm
Oh, like the race of the doctor. My doctor. You know what? I do have a black doctor. I have a black woman doctor and a black woman dentist.
Joe Budden
Oh, yeah. Good choice.
Ish
Good choice. Good choice. You know that there was a study done that.
Malcolm
Much better care.
Ish
Black women doctors.
Malcolm
Much better care.
Ish
Yes, exactly.
Flip
Yo, come on.
Ish
A peer reviewed study, ma'am, please.
Flip
Mel.
Malcolm
True.
Ish
Sorry.
Malcolm
I don't have to get a colonoscopy from a black man.
Joe Budden
Yo, it's a lot of y'all that's riding on the I support black women wagon. Archaeologists, a different type of horny. That's all it is. There's a lot of y'all that's waving the flag of the black woman doctor surgeon.
Parks
You missed it. He just said he's getting a colonoscopy from a black woman.
Joe Budden
You niggas are just horny next week.
Parks
That's a different level.
Melissa Ford
They always leave out a word. They always leave out a word. They support fine black women.
Malcolm
See, I don't even look at their faces.
Melissa Ford
Not today, Mark.
Ish
Happily, man.
Melissa Ford
Not today, Mark.
Joe Budden
That's hate.
Flip
That's hate.
Ish
He don't need you not even hating.
Flip
That's exposed hate.
Ish
I'm not hating.
Joe Budden
Don't be willfully obtuse.
Malcolm
When I'm looking for a doctor, I don't look to see if she bad or not. Cause like that.
Joe Budden
Yes, you do.
Malcolm
Nah.
Joe Budden
Yes, you do.
Malcolm
Not for a doctor.
Joe Budden
Yes you do.
Ish
When you're getting a camera shoved up your ass, I feel like you might not want her to be fine. Right?
Malcolm
Yeah, that's actually a good point.
Joe Budden
How come when men keep talking, it's gotta go?
Ish
A woman has the audacity to talk.
Flip
Yes, yes.
Malcolm
Sorry.
Ish
I think that's why I got fucking hired. But anyways, go off.
Joe Budden
Cause what I'm saying is one of those things where you have to have a penis. And I'm not beefing. I love you, but I think because you have a penis. Yeah. You don't have a penis. No, no, I'm not talking about yes.
Flip
Cleared up.
Malcolm
I was like, whoa. This episode took a turn.
Joe Budden
No, no, no.
Ish
I definitely don't have a penis. Definitely not.
Joe Budden
You want your doctor to be the best doctor.
Flip
True. Yes.
Joe Budden
I believe that.
Flip
Yes.
Joe Budden
Because you have a penis.
Parks
If she's a little fine, you notice.
Joe Budden
Other than what level of defined scale she falls on. Yeah.
Malcolm
When I get to the office.
Ish
Meeting you when I get to the.
Malcolm
Office, I'm not choosing her based on that, but when I get there, I notice. Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah. But I ain't looking for. Whereas there are some jobs where I.
Joe Budden
Want to know how to blind to the.
Flip
Yeah, no, I'll take Rasputia. No, nigga.
Melissa Ford
Wow.
Flip
You know how you look.
Malcolm
But when I. But certain jobs, you do care. Like you want your agent to be attracted.
Joe Budden
This right here is why Bill Burr special was so amazing to me.
Malcolm
I love that I need to watch it.
Joe Budden
I love that it was so genius. And we'll talk about it later. But it was so he. He said a lot of just wild, but in the simplest of fashions.
Flip
That's it.
Joe Budden
I actually want to talk to y'all about something he said, but we should start the part. We should start the party down. All of them female doctors and surgeons be on.
Parks
I like that he said, I don't look at her.
Joe Budden
You and ish at the 6 a game boy at the concession stand didn't mention concession stand.
Malcolm
What are those talking about? Joe's turning me into a monster, man.
Parks
Joe.
Joe Budden
No, no, you've been. You've been kind of a monster.
Malcolm
Oh.
Joe Budden
How y'all doing? How y'all feeling? Feeling great.
Melissa Ford
Glad to be here.
Joe Budden
Good. Happy to see all y'all. Look at you. Get out.
Malcolm
Get out on set. Your ass causing trouble.
Joe Budden
Audience. I want to let y'all know Mariah Carey has really divided the room.
Parks
Very much so.
Joe Budden
Mariah Carey has really divided the room in a. In a way that I never thought I'd see.
Parks
Actually, I didn't think it was possible.
Melissa Ford
Yeah.
Joe Budden
Yeah. So I guess we'll have all of those.
Parks
I thought she was a cheat coat a little bit.
Joe Budden
And I got mad. Just bullshit written in my phone. I didn't want to tell y'all and fill that whole board up. It is a bunch of bullshit. Great.
Melissa Ford
That's good. I'm down for it.
Joe Budden
All right.
Ish
What's that face for? Flip?
Flip
I'm just seeing where he's going today, that's all.
Melissa Ford
Okay.
Flip
I'm here to be a team player. I'm ready.
Ish
You're always a team player.
Parks
I would say always.
Joe Budden
Very, very rarely. Very rarely.
Parks
Being willfully obtus.
Joe Budden
Seldomly my team player.
Flip
Thank you, man.
Joe Budden
I appreciate it.
Ish
You're welcome.
Joe Budden
Oh, man. All right.
Ish
What do you got for us?
Flip
We waiting on him sometime.
Malcolm
You gotta double up on him.
Flip
Ain't gonna lie. You mean same.
Parks
That was a really good excuse.
Malcolm
Yeah, I was impressed.
Flip
He tried to put it on us, though. I gotta get him. That was nigga level of.
Ish
Hey, listen, look, baby.
Flip
Sometimes I just got done.
Ish
Sometimes you become a product of your environment. So you. That was a little complimentary.
Parks
I don't know if it was a little compliment.
Malcolm
No one felt complimented at all.
Joe Budden
At all.
Parks
Not even a little bit.
Flip
Okay. She said, I said that on purpose. She freestyled that immediately.
Malcolm
Yo, yo.
Flip
And she got serious, but she looked at me. They got some friendship. I ate that friendship.
Malcolm
That freestyle was crazy, though.
Flip
He said, yo, we sometimes up here say things. It's oxymorons. It's like, who said it? Who said that last? The man said, well, I said it.
Melissa Ford
Last, but I meant that.
Flip
Yeah, like, nah, point at that direction. Talk to each other.
Ish
But actually it's not oxymoronic.
Flip
What is it? Thank you. Help me. You know I'm saying wrong shit again. I wanted to learn. I don't want to be willfully obtuse.
Ish
I have a feeling this is the. You actually used it, right.
Malcolm
Good shit, man.
Flip
I'm learning.
Joe Budden
Killing the bars in hell. What you said. Got a pound off of that, yo. A pound used to mean so much more.
Parks
The value of a pound.
Flip
I'mma let you know. I'mma let you know you. I'mma let you know that I'm on your ass today.
Joe Budden
I gave.
Flip
I gave you a chance to chill and be humble. Don't pile up. I'm on you today. Now anything you say, I'm on your ass. I wore your ass today. Now the balls in hell. Cause he got a pound is just.
Joe Budden
Getting pounds for just like, whatever.
Parks
Yeah, yo, I'm full of. Yo, give me some.
Flip
Yo.
Joe Budden
Hey, man, I gotta fucking come to work and fucking laugh through my depression.
Parks
What are you depressed about?
Joe Budden
The world, yo. Just the world. As a non smoker, I didn't have the best sleep. Like I was in and out. Kept waking up on a part of the dateline that I didn't see falling.
Parks
Asleep to the date line.
Joe Budden
Just in and out of sleep, tossing and turning all fucking night. I wake up and Ian is talking stupid on my phone in a conversation. I tried to exit 90 times, but he wouldn't let it go. Just be so on the other side of something with somebody you love. Then I just got to thinking about sad as hell. I was like, oh, we gotta work.
Malcolm
Oh, oh.
Joe Budden
Oops, sorry. Hey, I gotta call upon the black classics. Mic check, mic check. One, two, one, two, one, two, one, two. Let's hear you.
Melissa Ford
I'll cheer.
Flip
You work every time.
Joe Budden
Let's see here.
Flip
I want to know, can you feel it too? So we go like this.
Joe Budden
Shout out to all the parents out there. Shout out to all the black people and the white people listening. We love you. And the Asians. And the Asians. That's true. All the brown people out there. The first and last time Listers. All the A listers out there. Hey, everybody at work through the depression.
Parks
I can't believe you let Ian get you depressed like this.
Joe Budden
No, it's not so much. Ian. You ever just look at all the, like, Professor X looking at the world with the mutants and just, like, not loving the effect of it? Like, oh, you ever just look at the results of all that come from you and you're like, I didn't plan on some of this with some of y'all.
Parks
Oh, you listen to a really bad podcast then, huh?
Joe Budden
Oh, my God. All right, man.
Melissa Ford
Sweet.
Malcolm
No place.
Joe Budden
There's no good place to cut that off. There's no good place to cut that off. It's not. Shout out to everybody at work right now. Shout out to all the hate groups, all the hate listers out there. Shout out to the patronage. Speaking of the billboard, doc. Shout out to anybody building that porch. What HOA thinks about it. That's right. Shout out to you. Adding that extra room, that whole extra dimension to the house.
Melissa Ford
Hey.
Joe Budden
Okay, Flip. You good?
Flip
I am.
Joe Budden
You cool? I see you. I'm watching you.
Flip
What? What you watching?
Joe Budden
I'm watching you.
Flip
How you watching me?
Joe Budden
I'm just watching you, that's all. Just watching.
Flip
I'm watching you too.
Joe Budden
Just watching you. High energy up in here.
Flip
Irs. Energy. Who irs. I'm watching you.
Ish
He's watching you.
Joe Budden
Oh, yeah.
Malcolm
Tax time.
Flip
Yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
Malcolm
Everybody ain't going to your ass too.
Flip
They are.
Joe Budden
Yeah. Don't worry about it.
Flip
They all my.
Joe Budden
Don't worry about it.
Flip
But I'm married.
Parks
Salute.
Joe Budden
Shout out all the married out there.
Flip
I learned from y'all. Y'all start to talk about it. All that refund.
Melissa Ford
What do you learn from me?
Ish
From you?
Joe Budden
Yes, sir. There. Yeah. I mean, we got 70 degrees in New York. They talking about shout out the. With a clean car out there. Shout out to everybody with. They Ross. They check out there. The weather getting nice. You heard.
Parks
Where's our Friday? We was on Friday. It was funny. My wife was like, you notice that everyone out here is, like, a little bit older? Like, yeah, cuz we haven't been outside for months. Like, we're not going outside in this cold.
Joe Budden
Yeah, we were outside this weekend.
Parks
The old.
Joe Budden
Hey.
Malcolm
All right.
Joe Budden
We got a great show lined up for you. Great show lined up for you today.
Melissa Ford
You just don't know.
Joe Budden
Everybody go to their family reunion this year. Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go. Right? I told my baby moms. Yeah, let's have that talk about the summer. Give me my baby.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Joe Budden
All right, Mel, what's up? You good? You ready? You ready?
Flip
You ready?
Joe Budden
You ready?
Ish
Ready?
Joe Budden
You want to go get dressed? Mark, the camera's on. Mark, the camera's on. Cameras is on. I'm just telling you there's six of these mothers. They work good. They work good. Watch yourself. Be careful now.
Flip
It's seven. It's seven.
Joe Budden
All right.
Melissa Ford
Enough about this, all right?
Joe Budden
I'm with y'all. I'm with y'all. I'm with y'all. I'm with y'all. Here we go. Shout out to the postal workers out there. We got ring cameras. We can see you stealing the package. They don't give a at all. Enough fun. Enough fun. Enough fun. Enough fun. Best in the world locked in officially. Some of these drops right quick, man. Keep the applause going for the best crew in the universe. Is they talking about. Microphone check. 1, 2, 1, 2. 1, 2, 1, two. You know what time it is. Shout out to the first and last time listeners. You know what we're here to do. You know what we here for. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, highly favored smoke free, fully dressed host. Are they talking about. What episode is this?
Parks
809.
Joe Budden
809. Welcome to episode 809 brought to you by Powered by Fueled by Price Pigs Prize Pigs game. All right, God damn it. And the most amazing crew in the world. Minus is Shout to our brother is whoever the he is. We should call him. Get right. Yeah, we should call him. Hopefully he's getting better. Hopefully that leg is getting right. Oh, some home cooked food, huh? Some rest.
Malcolm
He getting some more. I talked to him yesterday. He's still getting, getting. He's increasing his. His range on it. Getting, getting, getting stronger.
Joe Budden
Oh, he can take his time. Take his time. We want our brother to come back healthy.
Parks
True.
Joe Budden
Indeed. And the payroll is lessened. Applause for payroll being lessened for the month. Say I'm sorry. Stop. Look at you.
Flip
You want some broke. What's going on with you?
Joe Budden
Hey, we got to save up. It's tax time. Shout out to everybody making observations.
Flip
You know, I observed in a it.
Joe Budden
Get them receipts. Get the receipts out.
Flip
Gotta pay quarterly.
Joe Budden
Black. Oh, man.
Flip
Wanna buy? Nah, I ain't gonna say it. I ain't gonna say it. I ain't gonna say it.
Joe Budden
You cool?
Flip
I'm good. I'm good. I'm happy to be here, champ.
Joe Budden
All right. God damn it. The best crew in the motherfucking world to my right. Y'all know the Vibes. Y'all know the name. You know, the face. Face. The beautiful, the intelligent Melissa ford. Hey, big F4 next there. I didn't know that they were saying that you paid for a doctorate.
Malcolm
I saw that yesterday. Yeah.
Ish
It's fucking insane.
Malcolm
It's funny. I don't care.
Ish
And so can I be mad for you?
Malcolm
You can, but it don't. It don't matter.
Ish
How much would it cost to pay for a doctorate?
Malcolm
I don't know. I never thought.
Joe Budden
Cause Mel are gonna get that checkbook. You know, Mel got the checkbook now. I would too.
Parks
Yeah.
Melissa Ford
And.
Malcolm
Right.
Melissa Ford
That's my thing. So what?
Joe Budden
I'm about to get a college degree or some. What Meg thee stallion got what?
Ish
She actually went to school.
Malcolm
She went to school.
Joe Budden
They all went to school. Amber Rose went to College Hill. Everybody went to school.
Ish
Hey, college, what you're talking about?
Joe Budden
College Hill was giving out out something at the end of that.
Ish
Certificate.
Malcolm
Certificates.
Joe Budden
Certificates. I can go somewhere and give me a degree.
Ish
You could probably get an honorary degree.
Parks
They probably would.
Joe Budden
That's. That's what I'm saying.
Parks
Certainly in like broadcast media for sure.
Malcolm
I think Ramapo College.
Parks
You probably get a doctor for that.
Joe Budden
Oh, I should get a gold jacket or not.
Flip
Yeah.
Joe Budden
If it's that I'm getting a gold jacket.
Melissa Ford
Look them out. Jersey City.
Malcolm
Any of them Jersey schools? Yeah.
Melissa Ford
Oh, yeah.
Malcolm
Rutgers, Sam Sand, I think you. Rutgers, Newark.
Melissa Ford
They'll take care of you.
Joe Budden
Any of the New Jersey schools. I could live state. I could live state, huh?
Malcolm
Nah. None of that New York shit though. Maybe Pace.
Joe Budden
Oh my God.
Ish
Hilarious shout out to Pace. That was a shit.
Parks
Wow, man.
Malcolm
It was a shit. No disrespect to Pace.
Parks
Yeah, you just college shaved. That's crazy.
Joe Budden
Damn it, that's crazy.
Malcolm
University.
Joe Budden
See, I've been depressed for other people's stories too. Like I was staring at my little brothers over the weekend.
Melissa Ford
Like, I ain't.
Joe Budden
I've been like empath depressed. Like I'm staring at my two little twin brothers who about to go to college. One can't wait to get the out of that house. The one with the little girlfriend that he can't wait. He want to get far away, the other one want to stay. And I'm staring at them like, wow, man, you guys just been in your room for 17 years. It's the first time you're about to be split up away from your brother. My step kids about to go to college, twins in the house the whole time. Oh, yeah, now you're just going to school, separating from the. That I've been staring at my whole life.
Melissa Ford
That's sad. That is kind of rough.
Joe Budden
I would be sad about it.
Parks
I bet you for twins, it's even worse.
Joe Budden
Yeah.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Melissa Ford
That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's a lot.
Joe Budden
They're almost crying looking at these little bastards.
Malcolm
They definitely go to different schools.
Joe Budden
Yeah, local. Because the scholarships start coming in for different schools for different kids, and it's like, yo, I'm gone. I'm going over here now. Local. That shit said he right for one. For one nigga getting the fuck out of there. Anyway, sorry. What we on? What we on? We did the intro, right?
Parks
We did.
Flip
Oh, no.
Joe Budden
Dr. Mark Lamont Hill in the building did not pay for the doctorate. Fuck is you niggas talking about out.
Malcolm
There next to him?
Joe Budden
The queensiest of them all. Queens. Flip queens. Get the Money is in the building. Freeze is here. Elizabeth's finest. Y'all know the vibes. Mr. Money told him. Freezing. Mr. Take it further. Big Parks is in the building. Corey is here. Well, oh, Ian is here. Erickson is here. If Ian is here, that means Keeb is here somewhere. Savon and Tanner here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here. All right, what's poppin?
Melissa Ford
What's good?
Joe Budden
What's poppin? What's poppin? What's poppin? What's going on?
Melissa Ford
How's everybody weekend?
Flip
Great.
Joe Budden
You know, old.
Parks
I was outside a little bit, had a good time.
Ish
Shake your ass a little bit.
Parks
It was more of a bar hop than an ass shake.
Ish
Okay, all right, all right.
Parks
Yeah, more of a hop. Yeah, it was a good bar hop. It was a good bar hop. Ended up at this really weird Irish bar.
Ish
That was St. Patrick's Day weekend.
Parks
Well, we did that too, but this was Friday. This was a preemptive St. Patrick's Day.
Joe Budden
I didn't even know that till the news came on this morning. I ain't gonna lie to you.
Flip
Facts.
Parks
It was a little quiet out there.
Joe Budden
That's how in the house I been.
Parks
It was a little quiet out, but we went out and had a little corn beef cabbage. Get us yummy. Well, I did. She had whatever she had, but it was fun.
Joe Budden
We.
Parks
We had a good time this weekend.
Malcolm
Corn beef cabbage and. And beer.
Parks
That's right.
Malcolm
No, I was farting on my bathroom be a shambles.
Flip
Jesus.
Malcolm
I woke up to my.
Joe Budden
Like, God damn, that's me.
Ish
D. I'm bad.
Flip
Woke himself up. What's that smell? Oh, it's that Smell. I know what you talking about. Fox. That is nasty.
Joe Budden
Chill.
Flip
Let's be 3 million listeners.
Melissa Ford
He's crying.
Flip
Look funny. It's up.
Malcolm
You was outside Ice.
Melissa Ford
No, no, not at all. In the house. I stayed in the house all weekend binging TV shows.
Malcolm
Same.
Joe Budden
I'm old.
Melissa Ford
Yeah.
Malcolm
I went to a middle school basketball game. That was it. I may have been warned once to not yell at the refs. They were asking for it.
Parks
The refs?
Malcolm
Yeah, yeah, they. I mean, you can't. You just can't not call a walk. They weren't middle school. I'm sorry. They were nine, yo.
Melissa Ford
What? They not nine year olds, bro. They not gonna call a walk.
Malcolm
Yeah, but you can't. You gotta call them both. So Ian called me in the middle of the game. I was like, yo, I'm at the game. These refs are fucking up. He's like, don't get kicked out of a middle school or a little kid game. I didn't get kicked out, per se. That's.
Joe Budden
That would be embarrassing.
Malcolm
But I did get a warning. I got a stirring warning.
Melissa Ford
One more time, we gonna have to ask you to leave.
Malcolm
Yeah, my thing is just call the double dribble. No, no, they're not.
Parks
They can barely handle the ball.
Malcolm
No, they're not gonna learn.
Joe Budden
That's the best part about youth athletics, though. Like acting a fool at the game. Yeah. Yeah, it is. Yeah.
Malcolm
We was jumping up and down, screaming, running. My man ran out the door. You know what I mean? When the game get tight, it's fun. It's fun to watch. Yeah.
Joe Budden
Especially if it's like a bunch of white families there.
Malcolm
Oh, yeah, that's what it was. We were the black section.
Joe Budden
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Melissa Ford
There you go.
Joe Budden
Yeah. Yeah.
Malcolm
Signs and the pom poms and all that stuff.
Melissa Ford
Act a full ass out there.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Melissa Ford
Only me get them a little nervous. Just a little, honey.
Joe Budden
Watch them and take a while at the food truck and just stand there asking, Mac, what you got, man?
Melissa Ford
What that come with?
Flip
Mad ignorant. Mad ignorant. Let me get.
Melissa Ford
Let me get everything. Somebody starts.
Flip
No, you good. Let me get everything on it. Matter fact. Give me another hot dog. You want one? Yeah. Them get them a hard time. We walk in front of them while they. I don't give a. Your people be having some nerves, yo. They talk out of St. Patrick's Day. Man. I forgot my St. Patrick's Day.
Joe Budden
Yeah. Nah, me too.
Flip
This used to be lit. When I was here, it was a Monday.
Parks
It's a rough day for a holiday.
Joe Budden
The news this morning Especially a drinking holiday came on. They started showing you the St. Patty's parade. See, that added to my depression, too.
Flip
I forgot about that.
Joe Budden
Added to my depression, too. I'm seeing these niggas, they like, this is the longest tenured parade. It's been here. We've held this here for hundreds of years. I'm like, so let me get this straight. Everybody get a parade except for some niggas?
Flip
No, that's not true.
Joe Budden
What parade we got?
Flip
We got the African American parade at.
Melissa Ford
Home in Brooklyn right before Labor Day.
Flip
Hold on. They got the Labor Day Parade. They got the Dominican Day Parade. They got the Puerto Rican Day Parade. They got the African American Day Parade.
Malcolm
I should be like, in a day in Harlem.
Joe Budden
Yo, what are y'all talking about? We got Harlem Week. We got Harlem Week.
Flip
The African Day Parade. African American Day Parade. It don't be broadcast as much.
Melissa Ford
It ain't no tv.
Joe Budden
Eastern Park. Hey, let me tell y'all niggas in Brooklyn, so, you know, we all go.
Flip
Watch yourself.
Joe Budden
Hey, let me tell y'all. Y'all got about maybe one more of those up there before they pull the plug.
Flip
They've been saying that for years.
Joe Budden
I know, I know. And every day, every year they don't.
Flip
Do it, Somebody get shot.
Joe Budden
Kill more niggas. Since I was 17. Since I was 17 years old.
Flip
It's not more people that died. Yo, I was there. I was there last year.
Ish
So it's getting safer.
Joe Budden
Flip, I'm not from one of. A shooting, to me, is as bad as. As a murder. Like, if a nigga lived. The fact that you shot. The fact that you shot at all these people here, all the shooting. Oh, my God. On Dateline. All right, enough of Dateline. But the girl and her roommate, the girl's ex, came in and shot both of them in the head.
Flip
They lived.
Joe Budden
The roommate, the bullet got stuck in a place where it kept her alive the whole time.
Flip
Oh.
Joe Budden
Oh. She didn't bleed out. She laid there for nine hours. The cops came and got her to a hospital.
Flip
She lived.
Joe Budden
Lived.
Parks
Good for her.
Joe Budden
So she come into courts, about to testify.
Flip
Don't laugh. Oh, man.
Melissa Ford
She was. She was a little.
Malcolm
All right.
Joe Budden
No, but she testified and she forgave him and she handed him a Bible. He still went to jail, but.
Parks
But he had a Bible to go with, right?
Joe Budden
Material.
Flip
She came in different.
Ish
Good for her. Well, yeah, forgiveness.
Joe Budden
She's a little different now. Okay, but her speech is fine. Okay. Her eye is a little wonky.
Ish
Yeah.
Joe Budden
And she can only use one arm. Now. Oh, but she's a lot. All right, come on now. What are we talking about? What are we. I'm all over the place. What are we doing? What are we doing?
Malcolm
What's about living and dying? You came in here and had me think Mariah Carey was dead.
Parks
Oh, my God.
Malcolm
You made my heart stop.
Parks
You're not gonna walk that one in at all, huh?
Malcolm
Is that a bad place to start?
Joe Budden
I'm rolling.
Malcolm
No, let's go, man. He's like, all this was gonna. Everybody. First of all, all y'all was somber. He wearing black. You wearing black. You wearing black. I'm thinking I missed some shit. Cause I had some emergency today. I come in, you, like, write the Mariah tribute on the board. I'm thinking, mariah died. I got hit by a bus or something.
Parks
Mariah Carey is not anywhere here.
Malcolm
I was like, what happened to Mariah Carey head?
Parks
She doesn't even know buses exist.
Flip
We were talking about real. We would. How it started is that we were talking about the shade that Mariah displayed against money long while she performing Mariah's song. So we were talking about tributes and how, you know who accepts and who's receptive to tributes. Who has done a great tribute to a person that might still be alive or might passed away. So that's how the conversation with Mariah happened.
Ish
And so one of the good examples was Dionne Warwick and Luther.
Flip
I brought that up. Yeah. And then I played it.
Ish
It seemed to.
Joe Budden
Wait, hold up, hold up for two seconds. Because y'all about to make us sound like we had sense during that talk.
Ish
Oh, no.
Flip
Then we went, why you want to my shit up? I'm finally starting to do good.
Joe Budden
We coming back. We gonna come right back to. We coming right back. Save this sensible moment that you about to have. No, you can do it. You can do it.
Malcolm
You can do it.
Joe Budden
Save this sensible moment.
Ish
Put it in it.
Flip
Okay.
Joe Budden
We started telling brother Mark that that's you. Cuz when I go to sleep early now I got to put it on, right?
Flip
He depressed when n depressed. When niggas depressed. They want all type of recognition, acknowledgement from their loved ones. He wait for it. Did you text me? You text me? He asked for the text. Y'all miss your text?
Joe Budden
Dad, wife got in a car accident.
Flip
Oh, my God.
Malcolm
Is she okay?
Flip
I know how he feels. Cause I get like this. He's not wrong. Like, you just start to look at shit around you like you look at your kids.
Joe Budden
He's right. He called this morning with how much the insurance will put on the rental car. Nigga, I knew that yesterday when you called yesterday, I knew that they only had $50 for you a week for the rent a car.
Flip
That's not true.
Joe Budden
Dollar a day. I heard black people go through this beef for years about what the insurance company is willing to put on your rental car.
Flip
$30 a day.
Melissa Ford
It depends on.
Joe Budden
Your insurance company clearly don't never been to the rental car plate.
Flip
They don't get. They want you to get the kid $30, get it done right.
Melissa Ford
What you don't realize is what that 30 get.
Flip
You always want to go to the rental, get the fly.
Melissa Ford
That's $70 a day.
Joe Budden
I didn't even know the rental had other plates. Other joints apply.
Melissa Ford
You get a hellcat down here, right? They got the shit there, so they.
Flip
Cover the 30 and you play the. You play the rest. Yeah, you pay the difference.
Joe Budden
Wait, so when I go rent a car, when I go down south, somebody does it for me. So they reserve the fly shit. But when I get there and they start naming the fly shit, I don't be knowing what it is no more. Like, when they name the BMW, we got the X, such and such and such. I make them take me to go see it so I could get eyes on these motherfuckers. But anyway, back to Mariah. Mariah, Mariah, the legend. We tell Mark to write Mariah tribute on the board. Mark says, oh, my God, I thought she died. I was about to be. Oh, my God, so up and horrible. Oh, I was about to.
Flip
He said that.
Joe Budden
Which led into a. Oh, you was about to be that up if Mariah died.
Flip
Hell yeah.
Joe Budden
Conversation I would have as well. Somewhere in that.
Parks
And I don't like this. I. I feel like we gotta like, knock on wood, we love Mariah.
Joe Budden
Somewhere in that, somebody brought up who Mariah was dating.
Ish
Rumored to be dating.
Flip
Rumored.
Melissa Ford
Rumored.
Joe Budden
Rumored to be dating. And then Mark said, a bunch of hate.
Melissa Ford
A lot of hate.
Malcolm
You asked me what I thought about that. Because I said, damn. You said. I said, I didn't know I had a shot. All that time.
Flip
I didn't even hear that. But that's. That's why they were laughing.
Malcolm
Yeah, yeah.
Melissa Ford
He said, you let Terry move.
Joe Budden
Yeah. So I just want y'all to know how ignorant we've been in this. Oh, and then Ian chimed in and.
Melissa Ford
Say that he would never.
Joe Budden
He would never touch Mariah.
Flip
But, but, but I'm not. I don't disagree. I don't disagree with him. It's some people that no Matter how good they look, there's something about them that can make you say, I'm not attracted to this person, no matter how fake.
Malcolm
But that's not what he said.
Ish
That's not what he said.
Flip
But that's what he was saying.
Malcolm
He said, she's too old, basically.
Flip
No, he did not say that.
Ish
Yes, he did.
Flip
Yes, he's right there.
Ish
He did.
Flip
He said that I would not fuck Mariah Carey.
Malcolm
She just fell off. He says she fell off.
Ish
Yes.
Melissa Ford
Yeah, he literally said she fell off.
Malcolm
That means she's too old or. Or she's not in the condition she would be in to meet Ian standards.
Melissa Ford
She's not primed no more with superstars.
Flip
And Joe said.
Malcolm
Which sounds ridiculous.
Flip
Now, Johan, he tried to fuck the up and coming singer. He.
Joe Budden
His face turned red and said, oh.
Melissa Ford
Put a name on it. Put a name on it.
Joe Budden
What you talking about? A. I ain't got time for no more eating shenanigans.
Flip
Who? Which one? Put a name on the bully. He started thinking, you can't just throw out there like that on that man.
Malcolm
It's funny, you know, many waitresses in his.
Joe Budden
I could have threw him a name, but I wouldn't have done that.
Ish
I mean, it might not be appropriate. Now, listen, some people, some of you.
Joe Budden
Can see, yeah, that would be tough.
Flip
The older that they get. Or not saying Mariah. Mariah's beautiful. I think she's amazing. But some people see you, you lose that. You lose that attraction to them people. Be full of this.
Malcolm
What I'm saying, she needs be full of shit. Be full of.
Joe Budden
Did you think? Did you. This is my only question. You didn't think you had a shot at Mariah before?
Ish
No. Because who would, right?
Joe Budden
You do that so much.
Flip
Yeah, you do that so much, it.
Joe Budden
Seem like I'm suppressing you when I ain't.
Flip
Wonder Woman.
Joe Budden
Take your off, yo, I'm cornering your man. He don't even help when.
Malcolm
When I was single, I. I liked my chances with just about everybody. We go there, we go with a very small list.
Flip
Big mom who you thought you couldn't get at when you were single. Got to be somebody, Brad.
Parks
Carry Halle Berry.
Flip
She like you smart. You probably would. You know, I never.
Malcolm
I never thought about her in that way.
Flip
Oh, you see?
Malcolm
No, not in the.
Melissa Ford
Stop.
Flip
No, no, no.
Malcolm
Let me put it.
Parks
We just lying.
Flip
No, no, no, no.
Malcolm
That's not what I mean.
Melissa Ford
What I mean is never talk about it.
Joe Budden
Never looked at her, never.
Melissa Ford
Oh, she is attracted now.
Flip
Don't you mean she died he hit.
Melissa Ford
Wow. I never saw.
Malcolm
No, that's not what I mean. I mean, like, I've been very. I've friends with two people that she's dated, pretty good friends with one of them. So she's in the category of, like, that's my man's girl. So I just didn't think about, like, having a shot. I don't think about having a shot.
Joe Budden
Or you can just pop.
Parks
I didn't know you could put bullshit on bullshit.
Flip
But anytime you gotta double up.
Joe Budden
See.
Ish
How effective it is. See how effective that shit is.
Flip
Bullshit.
Joe Budden
All right, Flip, go ahead and be serious with this Mariah trick.
Flip
No, wait, hold on, hold on. Before we get into that, listen, there's some women out here and some celebrities, nightmare women that some niggas could say no to. I don't like how y'all was on Ian. All you guys attacked the poor man. And if he says, yo. He's not poor. If he says yo. Look, listen, guys, I am not attracted. I wouldn't sleep with her. You guys are supposed to respect that. I didn't like what you guys did.
Joe Budden
Too much of that going on.
Parks
You have to call your friends out when they're lying.
Flip
Yeah, sometimes we call Nigh, though, because.
Malcolm
I've never hung out with Ian one day in my life. I guarantee you he's had at least three nights of very unmemorable mid. Regrettable. Fuck mid. I ain't talking about mid. Below mid.
Melissa Ford
Reggie, so.
Flip
But we all have Mid and Arie at one point in the line. But Mariah Carey's the line.
Joe Budden
If he would catch some of them boys in the sauna slipping, then I think Mariah has a shot.
Flip
Catch some of the.
Melissa Ford
Who. Wait, wait, what happened to the ball?
Flip
The boys, the fuck? Ian, what you was into?
Joe Budden
Cause me and ian told on FaceTime every morning, but as soon as he get in the sauna, it's time to hang up.
Malcolm
And I know what his playtime.
Joe Budden
I know what that sauna. I know what them sauna clubs is about.
Flip
Yo, stop. Oh, shit.
Joe Budden
So I'm just saying, if some of the sauna niggas could catch em slipping, I think Mariah Mimi got a shot, right?
Flip
Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. To me, shout out to Mariah. I mean, a lot of people changed their like for Mariah when she started dating our brother Nick. And I fuck with Nick Cannon. I think he fly, he get old.
Malcolm
Shout out to Nick.
Flip
But I remember a lot of people saying that online, and they didn't really Know how Nick give it up? He gets him. But the. The optics of it was. Nah, man, she fucked with that. She. She fell off. Which was not the case. Cause niggas don't know how Nick carried. So we ignorant like that. I gotta pitch myself for Wild N Out. N. I gotta. I gotta pitch for Wild N Out. You know, I'm almost. The way you acting, you know how you carrying it.
Melissa Ford
You are Wild N Out.
Flip
I gotta solidify my spot.
Malcolm
Whoa.
Melissa Ford
You wanna solid? Okay, gotcha.
Flip
No raz, no razzle. But yeah, anyway, let's move on.
Joe Budden
Okay, well, Mariah and the Money Long tribute, where was that? That was the Hard Awards.
Flip
Yeah.
Melissa Ford
I don't know.
Flip
I was saying that one of the.
Parks
Shits that we don't know about just pop up.
Flip
I would say that Mariah threw Shade at Money Long. And then I asked the question that.
Joe Budden
But where was that?
Parks
That was the NAAC, Billboard or the iHeart.
Joe Budden
The Nickelodeon Awards. Right.
Flip
That's just not even around no more.
Parks
The Nickelodeon VMAs Baby Lifetime Achievement Award. I don't know.
Ish
Okay, so wait, why do you say.
Flip
That she threw shade her face when she was singing. Her face. Her facial expressions wasn't. It didn't look like she was too pleased.
Melissa Ford
Yes, it was the I Heart Music Awards.
Flip
The I Heart Music Awards. She didn't look pleased. So then the next question I asked, I said it was.
Parks
It looked like she woke herself up with a fart. Like it was bad.
Flip
And then Corey proceeded to tell me that Prince was also.
Joe Budden
Wait a second. Yo, hold up. All right. Nah, wait. All right. I was looking for a way to be on Money Long side. You can't shade me at the iHeart Awards.
Melissa Ford
Excuse me.
Joe Budden
Are you crazy?
Parks
No, that's.
Joe Budden
Are you nuts?
Parks
No, that's where you shade. That's where you shade.
Melissa Ford
Yeah.
Parks
Crazy my brought me out of my.
Melissa Ford
Castle for I don't even come out now. You heard what Nick told us. She don't leave a house. How much it costs one of them.
Joe Budden
To leave the house?
Parks
A quarter million for her to leave the house.
Joe Budden
Respectfully, with all due respect, as many people in that iheart building that I love and fuck with. So I'm not trying to be shady. If I get a tribute at the iHeart Awards, that's like me going on a roller coaster at the fair. I expect for the toothless nigga down there to leave me up here elevated for longer than I'm supposed to be. I would expect for my tribute at the IHearhardt Awards to not be so Grandiose. What are you talking about?
Malcolm
Don't call double dribble on that.
Joe Budden
Yeah, no.
Melissa Ford
Yeah.
Joe Budden
That's like Imani calling foul. Offensive foul in our street ball game. Are you not foul, by the way, I'm all with Mariah being a diva, and I know that the divas can't cut off being a diva. So you bring you wherever you go. But you at the I Heart Awards. Yo, listen. Stop it.
Flip
At the end of the day, just hilarious.
Joe Budden
Could be up here doing your tribute.
Flip
Yo, what the. Yo, I'm just saying, you know, they.
Melissa Ford
Caught Mariah and told her who was doing the trick. They gave her the whole to get her out of her bed.
Flip
And I don't think money loss and.
Melissa Ford
Money Long is dope.
Malcolm
I don't know that.
Joe Budden
So Money long is dope. I think this sus one could have just called Mariah. Like, Mariah's fly with a few niggas that we know not to pop out.
Melissa Ford
Though I could be fly with you. Now you asking me to bring my.
Joe Budden
And she might be cool with Jewish niggas that run ir. She might own a piece of ir. We don't know none of her. We don't know none of her business. But if you get here and the fucking tribute is not so Diamonds and pearls.
Parks
Nah, stop it. I'm not gonna let you do this when you big up Prince for doing the same thing with exactly nigga tributize him at the fucking MTV Awards or whatever that shit.
Joe Budden
And I'm not gonna let y'all do that. I knew one of y'all was gonna say that. Well, so for one, Prince has made it publicly clear to all, to the whole field, I'm against tributes.
Parks
I'm not sure that Mariah hasn't either.
Joe Budden
Prince has said it. So before he died, niggas knew it didn't really matter who was doing a tribute. He didn't want a tribute. So the fact that y'all kept doing a tribute against his will was like, okay. And now that we have the footage of seeing him shade people at the.
Malcolm
Tribute, like, we understand it's a Mercury face.
Joe Budden
He don't want that. And that's Prince. And Trey Songz is up there fucking that song up. Trey Solmes was up there ruining that fucking song. He was.
Parks
He was.
Joe Budden
I don't think Money Long was doing a horrible job.
Flip
She was not.
Melissa Ford
That's part of the diva, though. Nobody gonna do it good enough.
Flip
The question that I had earlier, you.
Joe Budden
Can'T shame me at the out.
Flip
The question that I had earlier was crazy.
Melissa Ford
You out your mind?
Flip
What artist was satisfied with their tribute song or tribute performance that was dedicated to them?
Parks
No one.
Joe Budden
Good.
Flip
And then I said, DJ Cassidy. No. Then I said. Then I said, dion Warwick was happy when Luther performed a tribute to her because she was extremely. She was crying. Yes. And then Cory was like, well, that's Luther.
Malcolm
And it's also personal. They're. They're friends.
Flip
Anyway. Luther bodied it, bro. Don't try to set that friend.
Joe Budden
He did.
Ish
But they also had a very strong personal relationship.
Malcolm
Right.
Ish
Like, they did. So this was like seeing her, like little mentee.
Parks
So if they didn't have Luther Vandross.
Flip
If they didn't have a personal relationship, you think that she would be as receptive?
Malcolm
She might not have been crying. She might have liked it. It's hard to hear somebody else do your song.
Flip
You know what I mean?
Malcolm
And always love it. You know what I mean? I've seen people do Aretha. Aretha keeps a steady face.
Flip
Yeah, she be tight. She was different.
Malcolm
But Aretha's just like, madonna did that shit.
Flip
She ain't like, but Madonna did that shit. The fans got at Madonna for doing Aretha Franklin tribute.
Joe Budden
I looked up, she should not have done that.
Flip
I don't remember that.
Parks
And she shouldn't have done that.
Malcolm
Right? Yeah. Some tributes are good. Obviously, Bob Marley wasn't alive for his tribute, but the Rita Marley, the I Tree, all of them love some of the renditions. They loved Lauren doing Turn your lights down low.
Joe Budden
Yes, they did. Yes.
Malcolm
They loved Erica and Ziggy Marley doing their joint. They loved Queen Latifah doing no more Trouble. Like, there's some people who did it.
Flip
Well, nigga, Michael. I was telling Ice that Michael got up and performed his own tribute. Nigga, he saw Usher and what's her name doing it. He like, yo, get on. Whitney bodied it. When Whitney came out, wannabe started something. Whitney came out. She bodied it. But when he saw that shit, he said, let me get up. My brothers is doing a horrible job. Let me get up here and turn.
Joe Budden
On that part, too. Tribute should improve.
Parks
They should.
Joe Budden
Tribute should improve. But who. Who.
Flip
Who do you put? Like, how do you choose the person?
Melissa Ford
Like. Like, today, they can't. Do you want to get names that are going to attract viewership?
Flip
Exactly.
Melissa Ford
And a lot of these can't sing.
Malcolm
They can't sing, and they can't sing.
Melissa Ford
Like, they can't sing to the songs that they trying to.
Parks
There's also mismatches, because even in, like, hip hop I forgot who. There's been a couple occasions, like Lupe with Tribe or something. There was someone else that did. Did.
Joe Budden
I forgot the words.
Parks
Didn't know the, like, the Biggie song, whatever it was.
Melissa Ford
I forgot what.
Malcolm
That's bad.
Flip
They didn't know I said the hip hop. The hip.
Malcolm
I've seen Fantasia do Fantasia did. Did Patty.
Ish
Well, yeah.
Malcolm
And that's like her niece again. It's a love thing. Also.
Ish
She's got that register. Yeah, she's got the register and the ring.
Malcolm
And they both. They both like to holler. Like. They both hit notes, but holler like it's a style thing is a good fit.
Melissa Ford
That was rich. Homie Quan. Rest in peace.
Parks
Rest in peace.
Joe Budden
Yeah.
Parks
That was bad.
Joe Budden
Thinking of that.
Malcolm
Why?
Parks
That was a bad match.
Flip
I agree with Joe. Y'all need to update the tributes. Find somebody from America's Got Talent.
Joe Budden
Yeah.
Flip
Or something like that. Somebody that's gonna. They go for star power instead of fashion.
Parks
Like actual match.
Flip
Because there's some people out there on those shows that will body a tribute.
Parks
Absolutely.
Flip
You know what I'm saying? Come on, bro.
Melissa Ford
They can't sit now. Again, it's business. We can't sell that to the advertisers. We can sell. I got this name, this name, this name, this name.
Parks
I got Trace on doing Prince, and that's right.
Melissa Ford
And then I got the person that they doing the tribute to sitting here in the crowd.
Joe Budden
What I was watching where they tried the Stevie Wonder tribute recently.
Flip
Yeah, let me look it up.
Joe Budden
That was really, really bad. It was so bad. I was like, yo, Stevie, right there. Go get him. Bring him to the stage. Y'all let him perform at every other damn thing he shouldn't be performing at.
Ish
I think Janelle Monae was a part of that tribute. She was at the end of that.
Parks
No, that was.
Melissa Ford
What's that?
Flip
That was 2015.
Joe Budden
Janelle Monae was in a bunch of. Yeah, yeah.
Malcolm
I think you guys have an ear for what sounds like. Remember when. When.
Joe Budden
Look, we hot about this.
Malcolm
When Babyface. Look, remember when Babyface did his tiny desk and he had people sing the songs that he wrote? He didn't match stars. He matched voices. So, like. So, like, he had Shantae Moore singing Superwoman. So, like, that was perfect like that. She might have even improved on the Karen White version. I love Karen White's version. Right. They had somebody do. Can we talk? They had 10. Tank can sing his fucking face off. Tank can sing anybody under the table. Tank should be doing these tributes like get the voices that match, you know, even if they're not the hottest name on the. You know, at the top of the Billboard. Right today. Get legends or get people who can sing great.
Flip
I think they just want to piss the legends off. That's it.
Malcolm
But, yo, you never answered your own question, which was, who would get you on the ground crying the way you said I was for Mariah if somebody died?
Ish
Yeah, that's where the conversation was.
Joe Budden
Oh, we never even got to that point.
Malcolm
Who would be the people that would get y'all doing that?
Joe Budden
Oh, yeah, because I didn't know I was saying to Mark and. And I'm clearly the room is against me on this, which I'm fine with. I was saying, I didn't know that Mariah Carey was at that level to where black men were saying, oh, if something happened to her, I would be totally distraught. Right. Like I was saying, I thought that was reserved for, like, the legacy. Legacy acts. And I guess she is.
Ish
She is a legacy act.
Malcolm
She already is in the game.
Flip
She is.
Malcolm
Shit.
Joe Budden
More than that, I'm not. I don't look at her like a legacy act right now.
Malcolm
I don't remember.
Joe Budden
She has the number one song every year. Like, she's still visible. She's still visible.
Malcolm
We still see her.
Joe Budden
We don't hear her. Cause she's a diva. But I mean. I mean, she is a legacy.
Melissa Ford
She's a legacy.
Parks
She's one of the top selling acts of all time.
Joe Budden
I thought it was like our Stevie Wonders, the mics, the Princes, the fucking Anita Baker.
Parks
I think she's in that crew.
Melissa Ford
She's in that crew.
Joe Budden
She's in that crew.
Malcolm
You're getting old, bro. Like. Like the people who were crying for Luther and for even Michael, like, they were younger. Michael was younger than Mariah is now, right?
Ish
Yeah, he's 50.
Malcolm
Yeah, Michael was 50. Mariah gotta be in her mid-50s. She's 57. 57.
Joe Budden
No, I understand what y'all say. Y'all are absolutely right. I do just think Mark is a liar.
Ish
No, you never knew.
Joe Budden
Some of it is, I think, like, what was it that connected with you? Like, when was it. How many Mariah albums do you have?
Malcolm
I bought, first of all. Just like you remember you said in sixth grade, you got Vision of Love from there to the emancipation. I don't. I don't know anything after emancipation to meet me, but that was. I was grown as hell when that came out. So from there to there, I look, I had every album. I used to love that dream Lover. Video.
Joe Budden
And if you stop the career.
Flip
She's 55, not 57.
Joe Budden
It's a classic career, if nothing, classic career.
Malcolm
Yeah, but I mean, as a kid, I had a crush on Mariah.
Joe Budden
I'm a legend. Not classic, but, like, legacy.
Malcolm
Yeah, she's top of the top. She's that. I mean, for me, it'd be her. Janet Jackson. There's a few people that would get me upset.
Joe Budden
Janet Jackson, I get.
Melissa Ford
Yeah, but you don't get Mariah.
Malcolm
They in the same class.
Joe Budden
I mean, y'all are helping me to understand that they are not in the same class.
Flip
Mariah said she didn't like the.
Joe Budden
Wait a second.
Flip
Mariah said.
Joe Budden
No, no, no, no, no.
Malcolm
Stop, stop, stop, stop.
Parks
Yeah, you might be right. They might not be in the same class.
Joe Budden
They're not in the same class.
Parks
Respectfully to Janet.
Ish
Oh, okay, Gotcha.
Malcolm
Wait, well, wait, wait, no. He's saying Janet's higher. You're saying Mariah's higher.
Parks
I know what he's saying. I know what I'm saying.
Malcolm
I'm saying they're both at the top of the food chain.
Flip
Janet is high. Stop it.
Joe Budden
Stop it. I don't know what y'all talking about now.
Flip
Janet is. Come on.
Joe Budden
Stop it. Where.
Ish
But wait, is it. Is Janet.
Melissa Ford
What are y'all measuring?
Ish
Is Janet considered higher by your standards because of the family that she's attached to?
Flip
All that Janet is.
Joe Budden
Maybe Janet is considered higher by. I don't want to speak for all black people, but black people.
Melissa Ford
Yeah.
Joe Budden
Like, I'm not measuring music careers.
Parks
Oh, okay.
Joe Budden
Like, you can have a great, great point, dude.
Parks
Got you. Gotcha.
Joe Budden
Janet Jackson was in good times.
Parks
Yeah, for sure.
Joe Budden
Janet Jackson is like, imprint from. She was in Different Strokes.
Parks
I was talking strictly music.
Joe Budden
I'm talking about the family she comes from and how young she was when we first saw her.
Parks
And I love them both, by the way. Had a crush on both in 91.
Flip
I get it.
Joe Budden
Which is a long time.
Malcolm
34 years ago.
Joe Budden
Yeah, but that's very different from 78.
Malcolm
Understand what I mean when I say. I'm saying the same. It's like in the NBA.
Joe Budden
Right, Janet?
Parks
No, Mariah. But carry on.
Malcolm
In NBA, some people are max contract people, right? LeBron's a max guy. AD is a max guy. They not the same, but they both in that same top tier. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying that when I talk about Mariah and I talk about Janet, there's a top tier people who. I would be up if they die. That don't mean they all the same in that same.
Joe Budden
Got it, got it, got it.
Malcolm
That's all I'm saying.
Ish
But not only that. You don't know what kind of impact that person legacy in music had on you. Like, it may not have the same impact on you that it would have on Mark. That's where the conversation was.
Malcolm
And this is where Joe was full of shit. Last episode of Patreon said he was in his mirror with a hairbrush singing Vision of Love and Someday in sixth grade. Yeah, that's the shit that should have you crying.
Ish
But then we also.
Joe Budden
It was a someday for me.
Malcolm
Which one was it?
Joe Budden
I said, it's Love takes time.
Malcolm
Love takes time.
Joe Budden
Oh, yeah.
Malcolm
If you singing that. Yeah.
Ish
But then the conversation morphed into who someday was. For the wife's not shout out to.
Malcolm
All the queer youth out there.
Joe Budden
Go ahead, go ahead, Mel.
Ish
No. Then the conversation morphed into whose death would or has had an effect on you that may not have had the same effect on other people?
Joe Budden
Like, for me, it was people that we thought couldn't die for me.
Ish
I'll give you.
Malcolm
I'll give you.
Ish
I'll give you two of mine. Anthony Bourdain and Philip Seymour Hoffman. When I saw that they passed away, I felt like, really, I'm with you.
Malcolm
But Anthony Bourdain, I mean, I just. I didn't see it. I mean, I like it. I knew Anthony Bourdain. We worked together. We shared that space. Sometimes I didn't cry.
Ish
All right, flex if you want to.
Flip
No, no, I'm not flexing.
Malcolm
I'm just saying, like, I get it was the same.
Ish
That's why I'm talking about impact. It may not have had the same impact on you that he. That him and his career had on me. You know what I mean? Like, that's fair to me. He's like upper echelon of like. Like, storytelling and just presence and intellect and all the things. Philip Seymour Hoffman was one of my, like, top three actors of all time. So I was very sad that I was he black.
Flip
Neither white guy from this guy, man.
Joe Budden
So you just naming white people in our.
Flip
This guy.
Ish
Yo, why you gotta be so racist?
Flip
Impossible. They trying to record me picking up my phone. Okay, let me ask.
Ish
Okay, okay. All right, wait. How. How many of us. How many of us were devastated?
Joe Budden
Look at who the fuck Marilyn's talking about.
Ish
How many of us were devastated when we heard Robin Williams died? Okay, thank you.
Malcolm
I wasn't devastated.
Flip
I was sad, though.
Ish
But okay, maybe I'm putting.
Malcolm
That's what I'm saying. Anthony Bourdain was sad to me because of how he raises him. But like, I was.
Joe Budden
Wait a second.
Ish
It's the tragedy, both of them.
Joe Budden
Yes, I was sad when Robin Williams.
Flip
I was sad as well. Yes.
Joe Budden
I was devastated to learn that Robin Williams was home with his entire family, went up to a side room, tied some fucking knot in the fashion that he did, and did this with his kids and wife in the house. That's devastating.
Malcolm
Okay, Anthony Bourdain, more of the same.
Joe Budden
Did Philip Seymour Drummond self transition date.
Ish
Passed away. He passed away.
Melissa Ford
Nah, don't do that.
Ish
I'm asking. He died of a drug overdose because he had the same issues that Robin Williams had had and the same issues that it was accidentally. It's all tragic. That's the point. It's all tragic. These are people that you.
Flip
Did you cry?
Joe Budden
Yeah.
Ish
Shed a tear. It bothered me. It was really like, were you in the bed? Like, no, I could move. I could. I could move on with my life.
Flip
Last time I saw it was Mission Impossible. He body that smoke.
Ish
Okay, yo, you guys know how I feel about actors. Y'all know how I feel about act white actors. Shut the up. You know, you guys keep. Keep that up. Okay?
Flip
I got in trouble.
Ish
Know you boy.
Joe Budden
Name some more people. Like, how many more names before. Name a couple more people.
Malcolm
Same.
Ish
When and when Princeton Michael Jackson passed away, I was like.
Flip
I was.
Ish
I had a very intense, inconsolable day. It was hard.
Flip
I was sad about Mike who left.
Ish
Really.
Joe Budden
Who.
Malcolm
Who would you up?
Flip
Who.
Malcolm
Who would die? Like, the way I had that Mariah moment. You said Larry David.
Melissa Ford
Hov. I got a list.
Ish
Like, ho would be.
Melissa Ford
Ho would. Long list.
Parks
There's a lot of people me up.
Ish
Yeah, but sometimes it's the circum.
Flip
Joe will me up.
Joe Budden
Oh.
Flip
I like yo. You be like, yo, Ian, can I spot five days? Five days a week? We can do this. My jo Jo me up, right? I wouldn't be. I wouldn't be able to move. What y doing with that? Cause y. Did he put my name down? Y'all ain't you into the well.
Joe Budden
Put your name down. Where?
Flip
In the will.
Ish
That's what he's working towards.
Joe Budden
No, no. My will must be jump if that's what he's been working for. I feel like it's my job to make this be less morbid. Bit.
Flip
Yeah, we been.
Parks
Although I don't know if you're the best guy for the job, to be honest with you.
Joe Budden
So something does need our attention.
Melissa Ford
All right, let's get it.
Ish
We got this.
Joe Budden
And this is very important.
Parks
Sure.
Joe Budden
Urgent, if you will.
Melissa Ford
Okay.
Joe Budden
Prize picks can wait a second. This is more important.
Parks
Always.
Melissa Ford
Oh, man.
Joe Budden
All right, let's do it.
Flip
7:00 on the day I'm in my drum. T. Who's in the street?
Parks
Huh?
Malcolm
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe Budden
One more again for the people in the back.
Melissa Ford
Whose.
Malcolm
Yeah. That was fucked up.
Flip
That's Imani for the people.
Joe Budden
No, this is Usher.
Malcolm
It's actually Usher.
Joe Budden
This is Usher oozing. This is Usher. And I'm gonna play it one more time. Hold on.
Melissa Ford
Play that again.
Joe Budden
Oozing the sheets for the people in the back.
Melissa Ford
They don't switch no lyrics on me now.
Ish
In the streets.
Melissa Ford
That's not what he says.
Ish
Isn't that Usher?
Parks
That is Usher.
Melissa Ford
I don't care who that is.
Parks
He forgot his words.
Melissa Ford
I don't give a who that is.
Flip
I thought it was.
Malcolm
It's cruising the street.
Parks
It's cruising the street.
Ish
I'm in my drop.
Melissa Ford
Cruising the streets.
Ish
I. I get it, but maybe we.
Flip
Did have it wrong.
Melissa Ford
No, we didn't.
Parks
No, you're not going to. Mandela affect me on this one.
Melissa Ford
He trying to keep paying. He trying to keep paying us with T Pain. So T. Pain got it off. So he said, let me switch mine.
Joe Budden
Up to T again.
Melissa Ford
All I do is win.
Flip
No, not that one.
Melissa Ford
It was that one, too.
Ish
So, wait, what was it? What did he say? It was.
Melissa Ford
Everybody's hands go up and they stay there. And they say, yeah. And it was.
Malcolm
He.
Melissa Ford
He. We was just saying that. They stay there. He's like, no, I say something else.
Malcolm
Oh. He said, I don't want.
Melissa Ford
I don't give.
Joe Budden
No way on. No way on earth. He's saying, buy you a drink in.
Flip
The streets is buy you a drink.
Melissa Ford
That one, too.
Parks
He had a couple of them.
Flip
This was. Man, where you was at this time, man.
Melissa Ford
Hold on, hold on.
Ish
Working out at Bally's.
Flip
You can.
Ish
It's there. You could act.
Melissa Ford
Usher went back and redid some of these. He went back and redid some of these shits, too.
Joe Budden
You can hear the new vocals. Holy.
Melissa Ford
I ain't rolling.
Parks
It's hard to tell with that little swoop sound right there.
Flip
He got us, Joe.
Melissa Ford
No, he didn't. He got us.
Parks
It's hard to tell with a little swoopy.
Melissa Ford
Y'all ain't.
Joe Budden
No.
Melissa Ford
He got us out of here.
Parks
You'll get the acapella button on your.
Melissa Ford
Yeah, turn the.
Malcolm
Drop the meat out Drop the meat.
Melissa Ford
The meat.
Joe Budden
Whoa.
Melissa Ford
The meat.
Ish
I am a product of my environment.
Parks
Hard to tell with a little sweepy sweep.
Malcolm
Yeah, that sweepy sweep is fucking it up.
Joe Budden
No, that nigga is saying who's in the streets.
Melissa Ford
He is.
Ish
Because you're not hearing the.
Joe Budden
He's saying who's in the streets.
Malcolm
It sounds a little like a cruise to me too. I hear what you would see.
Ish
Hard R is. It's not really there. He'd had to be like, who's in?
Malcolm
Yeah, it's a soft C. He's doing.
Ish
A soft C. And that.
Joe Budden
That he shouldn't be trying to correct nothing in 2025.
Flip
Yo, listen, yo.
Joe Budden
And in the street is mad thirsty while you in your drop shop on a hot Summer Day at 7:00 Nigga, why you wasn't cruising? Cruising?
Parks
You should have been cruising.
Joe Budden
Cruising is the fly. Yeah, braggadocious. I'm in my drop top at seven o'clock who outside? Where you at?
Melissa Ford
Where's.
Ish
Because look at the next lyrics right after that.
Joe Budden
Well, if you don't sing along with it, that don't even go with who's in the streets.
Melissa Ford
I'm looking for who's in the streets because I got this.
Joe Budden
Get the out of here.
Ish
Collecting.
Joe Budden
Sorry, buddy. Who wrote the sorry buddy?
Malcolm
Can we ask somebody?
Joe Budden
Hey, yo, listen, this might be a.
Parks
Let me see.
Melissa Ford
You got an older version?
Parks
No, this might be an official acapella. Let's see. Here we go.
Joe Budden
We're just tell me what you want to do when you got a high for me already. Baby, not. This is really disturbing us.
Malcolm
Okay.
Melissa Ford
Yeah, no, this is pissing me off.
Joe Budden
Because this is the worst one of. Of all of them.
Malcolm
Be ready.
Joe Budden
This is my Usher's sexy voice with.
Melissa Ford
A little thing I like.
Joe Budden
Hey, baby, tell me what you want to do with me it's 7:00 on the dot I'm in my drop top cru. Thank you.
Ish
Thank you.
Malcolm
Out of here.
Ish
All right, there we go. We heard it.
Parks
Sorry, Usher. You're wrong.
Melissa Ford
Usher just trying to get some talk going.
Joe Budden
Usher tried it.
Melissa Ford
He did. That's all.
Joe Budden
It worked.
Parks
Look at the one little thing that a good sign.
Melissa Ford
Do it. Do something else.
Flip
Yo, listen, listen T pain and buy you a drink. It was. And the real lyrics was and then I'mma take you home with me. But we thought it was ooh wee I'm gonna take you home with me.
Joe Budden
It is ooh we.
Flip
No, it's not. Definitely ooey and then.
Joe Budden
No, that's corny.
Flip
He said he clarified how do you.
Ish
Mix up and then with ooh wee?
Joe Budden
He's wrong.
Flip
Cause of how he said it.
Ish
It's two mouth sounds.
Melissa Ford
And then.
Flip
And then.
Joe Budden
Please, please. Yeah. No, it's ooey.
Flip
It's oo wee.
Joe Budden
Crazy Joe, I'm gonna buy you a drink. And then. You know that feeling you get food when somebody buy. Yeah, you know.
Flip
You know the so hot in your A sun peek out with Melnote act.
Joe Budden
All right, now time for my favorite part of the show.
Flip
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Joe Budden
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Flip
What do we got?
Joe Budden
What do we got? Let's go next time.
Melissa Ford
All right.
Joe Budden
All right.
Melissa Ford
We got Sixers, okc.
Joe Budden
The Sixers is still a thing. They're like Dallas East. You said okc.
Melissa Ford
Yeah.
Joe Budden
Give me everybody on okc. Then if they play in Philly, give me all of them.
Malcolm
Don't forget about Quentin Grimes, though. He's been lighting it up lately.
Melissa Ford
Yeah.
Joe Budden
Yeah. I'm so mad that. I'm so mad that we gave him the Dallas and then Dallas gave him.
Malcolm
To y'all, and I'm so mad he keeps scoring.
Joe Budden
Well, he went to Detroit somewhere in there, too, I think. But Quentin Grimes. All right, he's up the plan right.
Malcolm
Now, Paul George, we trying to be losing now, and now they want to win.
Joe Budden
Actually, you know what? Marcus Brown, right. I will take Quentin Grimes because he ain't gonna stop no time. Give me Quinton. He could really shoot. Give me Quentin Grimes for more than.
Malcolm
20.
Joe Budden
Yeah, more than 20 points. Give me SGA for more than 24 points. What else? Give me some more.
Melissa Ford
Y'all play the spurs, we play the Spurs. Away game.
Joe Budden
Give me cat. Yeah, give me cat. No, Wimby. Wimby killed us. I was at that game in the garden. Give me. Give me cat for more than four boards. He only rebound. Enough of me. Give me cat for more than 18 points.
Melissa Ford
All right. And the last one, I give you Nuggets. Lakers.
Joe Budden
Nuggets. Lakers. I'm telling you, I really do like the Lakers in the.
Malcolm
In the conference final against Golden State.
Joe Budden
I don't know if Golden State gets there. I like the Lakers to get there, and I Think I saw Steven A. Say that the wildest finals matchup would be the Lakers versus Cleveland with LeBron trying to stop Cleveland from getting a championship.
Malcolm
That would be amazing.
Joe Budden
That's so.
Melissa Ford
That's great tv.
Joe Budden
Interesting.
Melissa Ford
That's great TV right there.
Malcolm
That'd be amazing.
Joe Budden
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Parks
The loser of the fire everything loser of the five.
Joe Budden
Which made me want to ask y'all which one you would rather be in that equation? Decision.
Parks
The girl that got beat up.
Flip
I'd rather be the person beating up, getting beat up. No.
Ish
Or the one, the aggressor.
Flip
The aggressor. Yeah.
Joe Budden
Okay. I'll get beat up before you ruin my whole house. Yeah.
Melissa Ford
I've been the other person already that had walked in the house and said, wait. So, yeah, I'll take the other side.
Flip
You're saying it wrong.
Parks
You're saying it's the little ass over there so bad.
Melissa Ford
Yeah, I'm take the other side.
Flip
You said you'll be the who?
Joe Budden
I said I'll get beat up.
Melissa Ford
Up.
Joe Budden
Before I allow My entire house to be ran.
Flip
The person got beat up was the one that destroyed the house. Yeah, she got beat up, picked up the key fob, and said, okay, I know.
Malcolm
Destroyed. He would rather get beat up. The choice is between getting your ass beaten, getting your house.
Ish
No, I thought he was talking about the.
Flip
The in that situation.
Ish
The outcome of the entire situation.
Flip
Not the same situation.
Ish
No, because it's the one girl that.
Melissa Ford
Got beat up is the one who.
Flip
Ransacked the house, not the one that beat up.
Joe Budden
Yeah, I know that.
Flip
Yeah. So would you rather be the. Would you rather get beat up and have a chance to go destroy somebody house, or would you rather be.
Melissa Ford
Would you somebody up and have somebody el.
Flip
Have your house destroy?
Malcolm
Yeah.
Parks
I'm confused why this is confusing.
Flip
No, it's not.
Ish
You know, he said, all right, thank you, Alice.
Malcolm
Alice and Betty.
Flip
No, no.
Malcolm
Alice beat Betty's ass.
Joe Budden
No.
Malcolm
Hyper Betty then went to Alice's house and tore it down. Do you want to be Alice or do you want to be Betty?
Flip
He said, I'd rather. Nigga, stop fucking being on this. I'm not gonna say. He said, I'd rather get beat up than have my house destroyed. And that's the person that got. Exactly. The person that got beat up destroyed the house. So how would you rather get beat up?
Joe Budden
Okay, wait. Y'all wait. Cause y'all saying.
Flip
But if you're talking about the scenario. I'm not done. If you're talking about the scenario, that's not.
Malcolm
Listen to me.
Joe Budden
Cause we sounding, like, too off now. Like it ain't that deep. This is like the little meme I seen somebody was in Jersey City.
Malcolm
These guys are fascinating.
Joe Budden
And they was pointing the camera at people, and they was like, yo, James, grandson is my son. Who is James? To me, that shit fucked the hood up. The hood was so confused. I feel like this is one of.
Flip
Those moments right here.
Joe Budden
I'm saying you're right, and Mark is right. I'm saying I would rather get beat up than have my house rant. Have my house ranted. The winner of the fight got her house ransacked.
Flip
Yes.
Joe Budden
The loser of the fight ransacked the house.
Malcolm
Right.
Joe Budden
So your choice is.
Melissa Ford
I'm picking to lose the fight and go ransack versus yeah.
Joe Budden
And go ran.
Flip
Oh, so you're not talking about that.
Joe Budden
But having my house be ransacked.
Malcolm
He didn't switch it.
Melissa Ford
He didn't switch it. He's saying the same.
Malcolm
He just said, which person in the scenario is voting?
Joe Budden
Yo.
Ish
Okay.
Melissa Ford
It's okay.
Malcolm
It's cool.
Ish
Okay.
Melissa Ford
Anyway, I have a question.
Malcolm
Like I said.
Joe Budden
All right. It's seven fucking apples. All right.
Flip
Yo, that nigga. Y'all trolling, for real.
Ish
But wait, I have.
Flip
No, no, no. There are seven people in this room.
Malcolm
We all understand it.
Flip
We're on the right side.
Ish
I have a question.
Flip
That's not true. You're picking.
Joe Budden
You're being Wolfed here, too.
Flip
Seven people did not agree. Three additions.
Malcolm
Raise your hand if you agree that what he said makes sense. Whether you agree with them or not.
Melissa Ford
It makes sense now.
Ish
It makes sense now.
Parks
It always made sense.
Flip
Yes.
Joe Budden
The entire time it made sense.
Ish
Okay.
Flip
Nah, go back.
Joe Budden
It's okay. It's okay.
Malcolm
It's fine.
Flip
Nah, nah. I'm getting up. I'm moving.
Ish
I have one.
Flip
I'm not gonna allow him or you to do that on camera. It's going to change the energy in this room. Y'all both being playing around. And I'm going to get up and take a break, sit down over there, and I'm going. Come back when I call, cuz I don't want to mess up the show. Cuz in my mind, I'm going put it in my brain that y'all played with me, and I'm going to look for opportunity to play with both of y'all.
Joe Budden
Whoa.
Flip
So what I'm going to do, I'm going to take a step over there as an adult, sit to myself, and count to 10.
Ish
Do a box.
Malcolm
This is definitely an adult move.
Joe Budden
I just want to point out self employment. No. Yeah, he took my.
Malcolm
Oh, sorry.
Joe Budden
That is the adult thing to do when we can't agree on the hypothetical. Go take some time.
Parks
Go take some time off.
Joe Budden
4,000, 400,000. Go sit alone to yourself.
Parks
Do the math.
Joe Budden
And look, Mel was down with you. She left you hanging too.
Ish
No, I was like, do a box breath. You'll be fine.
Parks
Who dah.
Melissa Ford
A what?
Ish
A box breath. Like Navy Seals.
Joe Budden
On to part two of Way Too Much is caught on camera in for four in Newark, New Jersey. The pimp parked his car outside the Catholic church.
Melissa Ford
Yeah.
Joe Budden
And walked in and punched the pastor. And the shit that I saw, it was just a headline that said, yo, pimp punches the pastor over some unpaid debt. So I was like, bet I was.
Parks
Satisfied I skipped that one.
Joe Budden
I was satisfied with that. So then. Then a video started playing, and I said, no, they did not record the.
Melissa Ford
Well, they record church.
Joe Budden
Yeah, but they. I was saying in my head, they better not show that to me.
Melissa Ford
Oh, no.
Joe Budden
And sure enough, money walked up There.
Melissa Ford
Smooth, too.
Joe Budden
In an Easter outfit.
Flip
He was there 30 minutes before.
Joe Budden
Yes. Waiting. And what was funnier is there was a cop behind him. The There was trying to go get to him, trying to get to him to stop. He boot bopped that guy. The guy ran to the side. I'm like, all right, y'all don't think we have access to too much now?
Melissa Ford
Yeah.
Joe Budden
We should not be seeing these things.
Flip
Yes.
Malcolm
No, we shouldn't.
Melissa Ford
We shouldn't be seeing these things. We shouldn't be hearing anybody thoughts either facts or reading them.
Flip
He pushed the past, yo.
Melissa Ford
He smiled.
Flip
The pimp got up. He walked slow too. He didn't rush. He walked the style.
Melissa Ford
And dude knew what it was.
Joe Budden
Yeah, he knew.
Melissa Ford
He knew what it was.
Malcolm
He knew.
Flip
Oh, y. Up in Newark.
Melissa Ford
Listen, your debts.
Joe Budden
Do y. Do y'all. Are y'all for street justice or no?
Flip
Yes, I'm for street justice.
Melissa Ford
No, I'm not.
Joe Budden
All right. Ice is not.
Malcolm
I am most of the time. Yeah.
Joe Budden
Parks.
Parks
Yeah, I'm cool. I was watching the video.
Joe Budden
Parks is. Flip is a little bit.
Flip
No, he's. I'm.
Joe Budden
Are you all the way? Mark is most of the time.
Ish
Most times, Mel, in the right circumstances. Yep, absolutely.
Joe Budden
Look at Flip. Why are you so stupid?
Flip
You know what?
Melissa Ford
I'm.
Joe Budden
You could just let her answer and that be the end.
Flip
Why you gotta be all, I love her. I love her. She don't.
Ish
Wait, what you gotta say?
Flip
No, no, no, no. You ain't gonna trick me.
Ish
Okay.
Flip
I ain't having an HR meeting. Nope. Nope.
Joe Budden
Cuz when they arrested the pastor dude.
Flip
I was like, the pimp dude.
Joe Budden
I mean, the pimp dude. I was like, I don't know if this is right, because homeboy should have.
Parks
Paid Jordy true step to services.
Joe Budden
He should have paid Shorty. And we know that. That. That old ass dude went and took his ass over there by the junction and bought some pussy and then went to the Pierre and then went to the Pedestal to talk some good God shit. You know, he would that for sure.
Malcolm
I didn't know you could do that. You could buy.
Melissa Ford
Matt says it depended on. Well, anywhere Bodega. No, just anywhere.
Joe Budden
Yeah. Just get it back to me.
Flip
They gotta lay away.
Malcolm
But that.
Joe Budden
But that speaks to the audacity. You're not gonna promise me some don't pay my worker and then go to work and it be the church.
Flip
All good.
Melissa Ford
Spread the good word and I know where you at.
Malcolm
Yeah, Yeah.
Melissa Ford
I know where you gonna be and I know what time you gonna be.
Joe Budden
Sorry, buddy.
Malcolm
Police don't need to be involved in that.
Flip
Did you watch that for real?
Joe Budden
Yes.
Flip
How he walked up there smooth nine times.
Joe Budden
I watched him.
Flip
Yo, that. He slapped him or punched him.
Ish
Punched him, Punched him.
Flip
He knocked that.
Ish
Punched him.
Flip
And his man didn't do nothing. Hey, yo, y'all can't do that. CCC in Brooklyn. CCC church. Them security guards is you up?
Parks
Leave it alone.
Flip
CCC and Allen. CCC and Allen's in Queens. Y'all can't do that. All that pimp walking up Shaloti. Them niggas is fucking you up before you even get through the door. Security is extremely serious in there in those mega churches.
Malcolm
Oh, yeah. Mega church. Yeah. That's like get to a superstar.
Melissa Ford
Yeah. Oh, no, they couldn't do that Rest in Peace over at Christian Love either. He knew where to do it at.
Joe Budden
No, you couldn't do that in a Christian.
Melissa Ford
No, you couldn't do that there.
Flip
What's Christian Love?
Melissa Ford
I don't know.
Flip
That was a church.
Melissa Ford
It's in. Reverend Ron, Rest in Peace. That was his church. But you're not walking in there like that.
Joe Budden
We talking about mega churches. I ain't gonna lie. This is wrong. But the footage of Bishop Lamont Church getting robbed, Lamore Whitehead, y'all seen it?
Melissa Ford
Yes, we did.
Joe Budden
Yeah, the robbery.
Flip
Robbery that he set. The robbery that he set up.
Malcolm
I could choreograph it.
Joe Budden
I seen that like it was all them nights. I seen that a million times.
Parks
I'm so glad Russ Gemstones is back, by the way.
Joe Budden
Me too.
Melissa Ford
He started back yet, but.
Flip
Yeah, he locked up now, right?
Malcolm
Yeah, he was here like three weeks ago.
Joe Budden
He's locked up. But when you watch the footage of that church, like he. You should have been robbing the church. Like this was the church on.
Flip
He set it up.
Joe Budden
There's no other way that a criminal thought to rob that church. Like when they show the outside view of it. Nobody said they got it.
Melissa Ford
That's it right there.
Joe Budden
It's in there. Yeah.
Flip
He's shooting.
Joe Budden
Nobody call up the homie, say, yo.
Melissa Ford
I know where it sits. That my.
Joe Budden
That is a mess, that one.
Malcolm
Yeah, yeah. Top of a furniture store or something.
Flip
I remember Maya Angelou was at Rest in Peace was at ccc. They wasn't playing those. They mad aggressive. Y is. This is the house of the Lord. They extremely aggressive.
Malcolm
Yeah, Them Armor Bears.
Flip
Yeah. I don't know why they like that. I tried to walk in there with my hat on, push me. I said, cuz the white church, you can wear your hat. They Let you get it off.
Melissa Ford
Come as you are.
Flip
Yeah, come as you are. But not the black church. Maya Angelou hit at the lights and shit.
Joe Budden
Yo, we so lost as a people. Niggas named the whole list of fucking famous people that they would be destroyed if they left. It wasn't a sign of Maya Angelou. It wasn't a great black excellent one. It was Mariah Carey, Spud Webb, Lloyd Banks. We will never overcome as a people.
Flip
I think this probably was mad at Maya.
Malcolm
The OGs shout out to Maya Angelou.
Joe Budden
Wiser made drop.
Melissa Ford
Why keep this thing?
Joe Budden
Yo, man, his name I've been getting off some Philip Drummond Wiseman.
Ish
If you don't give him the.
Melissa Ford
Mission impossible.
Joe Budden
Get out of here.
Ish
So many more great before the devil does.
Joe Budden
I'm just.
Ish
I've never met anybody else that's watched that movie.
Joe Budden
What movie?
Melissa Ford
What movie?
Ish
Before the devil knows you're dead.
Parks
Yeah.
Ish
Always something amazing.
Flip
You know, A lot of crazy. Me, you, and Paul. I watch a lot of crazy.
Parks
I like movies.
Ish
Yeah.
Joe Budden
Same Philip Hackman. You talked over my fucking Gene Hackman tribute? That was fucked up.
Ish
I did not.
Joe Budden
Didn't give a fuck about Gene.
Flip
Y'all saw flowing. Stop. We care about Gene. We care about Gene.
Joe Budden
Get on these podcasts. Mike, come on. Somebody segue us out here. Gave Gene Ackman and his wife a whole 20 seconds. Junior Brisbane, Atlanta, y'all don't be giving a. Now all of a sudden y'all got a list. Who y'all gonna be distraught about?
Melissa Ford
Who got my list?
Flip
He said, hov?
Melissa Ford
Yeah, I got HOV on my list. AI is on my list. Snoop is on my list.
Flip
AI, like, oh, Al, I would again.
Melissa Ford
These are people that.
Malcolm
That makes sense.
Joe Budden
Yeah.
Melissa Ford
Meant a lot to me through childhood. Hey, hey.
Joe Budden
Yeah.
Melissa Ford
I'm just saying, it's. It's people. If something happened to him, it'll fuck me up for a minute.
Flip
How long, though? Like a month.
Melissa Ford
Nah, nah.
Flip
Okay.
Malcolm
I don't know them. It's like a day. A day or two.
Melissa Ford
Yeah. If I don't have no personal relationship with you.
Malcolm
Like Kobe. I knew. So I was upset. I'm still upset. Like Michael Jackson. It was like, more like that day. Then I anchored the funeral and I cried. Like during the funeral when Stevie started singing. Stevie sang I never dreamed you leave it in in the summer. And we was all fucked up. Cause it was like.
Joe Budden
Can you pull that mic close to you?
Malcolm
Oh, I'm sorry.
Joe Budden
The. Yeah, you ain't but 5,4n close to the damn mic.
Malcolm
Yeah, Something like That like, just a lot of times it'd be the tragedy of it. Don't be that the person meant that much to you.
Flip
Nonsense.
Malcolm
You know what I mean? It'd be like that. This like with Kobe. Even if you didn't love basketball and you didn't know him, it's still like something about somebody at that age dying and like, messes your head up. Same thing with Michael Jackson for me.
Flip
Same thing.
Malcolm
And Anthony Bourdain.
Flip
I was sad Michael didn't. Michael went too early for me. Me, yeah, I was sad as well.
Joe Budden
We can move on. But I'm dying to know who would have been on y'all list ages ago, before celebrity. Celebrity and fame and groupyism took over. Like, anybody that was like a world changer.
Melissa Ford
Nelson Mandela.
Flip
Nelson Mandela.
Joe Budden
Tesla.
Melissa Ford
You told off the river Tesla when Mike died. When Mike died, you said, whoever made.
Flip
Bread, you got the same Uncle Ben, right?
Melissa Ford
Rice.
Joe Budden
Famous Amos.
Melissa Ford
Famous Amos.
Ish
Nelson Mandela is good.
Flip
Nelson Mandela.
Malcolm
That was a good one. I didn't cry though.
Flip
I was.
Malcolm
Damn, I didn't cry for that one. Now that you mention it, I was at a funeral too. I, I, I didn't cry, but I was sad.
Parks
You went to a lot of funerals.
Malcolm
Now I feel like an asshole. Yeah, I probably shoulda.
Joe Budden
Mark be trying to get booked at niggas funerals to speak.
Parks
You trying? What you mean trying?
Malcolm
Right. As a journalist, you gotta go. I go to a lot of funerals to cover him, and then I end up just going and staying. So, like, I went to South Africa for his. It was amazing, you know, it was so amazing, you almost didn't have time to be sad. Cause it was so much partying and so much traveling and all of that stuff. He laid in state, so he went to like 12 cities, like to follow him be dead.
Joe Budden
But anyway, yo, thank God for technology. The obituary was such a horrible way to learn that somebody died or open the paper.
Parks
God damn.
Joe Budden
Oh, shit.
Flip
Yeah. In the Caribbean, they put that shit on the TV at night. This person died.
Ish
The daily obituaries.
Flip
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. On the television.
Melissa Ford
Oh, no, I think I'd rather the paper.
Flip
Shit.
Parks
Yeah, yeah.
Melissa Ford
Watch my show. And then I'm fucked up.
Flip
Can we talk about the fucked up obituaries, though? Like later on, some of the obituaries be up and nasty and I don't like it. They be leaving it to their kids. They want to go to cheap route. This should be the paper. The ink, the ink falling off. I don't like that. Yo, I got a problem with talking.
Melissa Ford
About families getting nasty with the obituaries too. Yeah, leaving.
Malcolm
Leaving people out.
Flip
Yeah, all that.
Melissa Ford
Hey, we was beefing with her. We don't like her. Her name ain't going in here.
Flip
It's not time for you to get your personal grievous out. When somebody passes away, you know, you're supposed to follow how they feel, but you can't do that them be disrespectful and spend some money.
Malcolm
I had no. It was. I was not in my family. My sister died. I think I was in one picture. No, I was in no pictures.
Flip
That's fucked up.
Malcolm
They had every. They had, like, cousins, aunties.
Ish
Who was responsible for putting together the montage?
Malcolm
Her daughter.
Joe Budden
Oh, what was your. What was her.
Flip
He was rich and he wasn't around.
Joe Budden
I never. I never think that a sibling should do it.
Flip
I agree. But who do you get to do with, though?
Joe Budden
One of the old heads of the family.
Malcolm
Yeah, that's who she do.
Joe Budden
Older person, one of the old. Even if it's not in age. One of the older heads in the family that is more responsible is gonna get all the pictures that talk to everybody. One that's gonna do it, right? Yeah, that's gonna say.
Malcolm
And be mature.
Joe Budden
Hey, Mark ain't in enough pictures here. This person's gonna do it, right.
Flip
Yeah, I understand.
Joe Budden
That be fucked up. You be at the funeral, sitting there waiting for your dick to come off. Or they start reading names. You.
Malcolm
Yeah, that's how it was.
Flip
He was in the front too. Mark was like, in the front. Hands folded.
Melissa Ford
Oh, they probably. They ain't. Freeway out.
Joe Budden
Freeway out.
Melissa Ford
No pictures today. Oh, that have been even worse. Like, yo, I was there.
Joe Budden
You can zoom out. You could tell they. They getting to the end of the montage. It started getting to the old shit. He just died. Pictures. Like the recent pictures. He like, I know I'm in some more pictures.
Malcolm
I wasn't in none. Damn. I wasn't even in the book.
Joe Budden
Yo, they show you. They show you a motherfucker whole life, and you wasn't there at all. You'd be sitting there looking at when they was one. Oh, shit. So speaking of this, this is part of my Bill Burr review.
Parks
Okay.
Joe Budden
Bill Burr said something I thought was really interesting, which was, why are we still having open caskets?
Parks
Oh, I was with him on that 100%.
Joe Budden
And he. Yeah, while he was joking, the more he talked about it, I'm like, yo, that's totally correct. Why are we still having open caskets where we're forcing People to go look at some dead motherfucker lying there who may be made up.
Melissa Ford
Right.
Joe Budden
Or not be made up. Right. And I take your word, if you say that this person is dead, then they died. Like, I don't need to see the proof. Right at the top of the fucking service.
Parks
He got answered the text, so I believe you.
Melissa Ford
Yeah.
Joe Budden
Open CAS could just seem a little.
Ish
I feel like you might know the history of why there's. Why we have open cast.
Joe Budden
Back in the fun. It's a great way to. There we go. Oh, that's the Roomba. Vacuum up the fun. Fun mark. What is the history of this?
Ish
I mean, I'm just saying, like, in order to like. Okay, fine, fine, fine. I'll back away. Fine. I'll back away. Be interesting.
Joe Budden
That's that. Philip Dron Moore. What do y'all think about this?
Ish
I've always thought that open caskets were really creepy.
Parks
Yeah.
Joe Budden
This is a really morbid episode.
Parks
It really is. It is.
Joe Budden
It.
Melissa Ford
I just think it's creepy for kids.
Parks
It's creepy for everybody.
Ish
It's creepy for everybody.
Melissa Ford
It's some funerals I've been to. It allowed you to. It's like that last bit of closure.
Malcolm
Wanting to say goodbye. I understand.
Joe Budden
If the kid is old enough for. They had to be peeking up, then that's bad. But you don't want to see that. But if they small enough to where you don't even really.
Melissa Ford
You don't know what's going on up in there.
Joe Budden
They should be done up. They be have leds. The kids, they'd be having glass in this. Yeah, they be propped up. They'd be like, all right, man. Yeah, your Bill person, they'd be in there all propped up. Sorry, Go ahead, Go ahead. Listen. Take it away.
Flip
No, I'm listening to you. I'm listening to you.
Parks
I'm with you. I don't like seeing that.
Joe Budden
That is whack.
Malcolm
I like seeing it before, I think.
Melissa Ford
Yeah, the way.
Malcolm
So like. Yeah, like when my dad died, the night before you go, you look at him, you know, say your goodbyes or whatever. The next day, I don't feel the need to see him.
Melissa Ford
But see, the problem now is. Cause everybody ain't got it. So you're doing it all in one shot. Yeah, ain't no more. The wake used to be the night before. Right. And then the funeral was the next day.
Malcolm
Right.
Melissa Ford
I just went to 1. Shit started at 1pm I'm like, wait, it's starting at 1. And that was the wake.
Malcolm
Oh, hell no. Yeah, you just don't get to see him. To me, you just don't get to see him. I mean, some people like to kiss the body goodbye and all of that stuff.
Melissa Ford
Yeah, some. Yeah. You know what really pissed me off though, is when they start taking pictures.
Malcolm
Well, that's some new.
Melissa Ford
I know it's new. That, that. I don't care. What. That really pissed me off when I.
Malcolm
See pictures in the funeral.
Melissa Ford
Somebody walking up to the casket. Yo, fam, fam.
Malcolm
Yeah, that's weird.
Flip
Hey, yo, real quick, real quick, since we talking about that, I just got. My wife just got a call that her aunt in Canada wants to. Passing away, but she wants to. She wants help with a company called maid, I think.
Ish
Medical Assistance in Dying.
Flip
Yeah, yo, and she asked me how I felt about that, but I'm like.
Melissa Ford
Nigga, it's like legal euthanasia. Yes.
Flip
I don't know. I guess that.
Joe Budden
Yeah, that's the company that come kill you faster.
Ish
Well, no, I think.
Flip
I think it's. I think it's.
Ish
I think it's selfish. No, I know it's so. It's only for terminal patients, but I thought about you.
Flip
But I thought that was.
Ish
It's not selfish if you're. If. If you have like two to three women weeks left and the quality of your life is so, you know, is just. It's non. Existent then.
Flip
But how many times. How many times we had people have two, two to three weeks left and they live for years.
Melissa Ford
That is. That is a fact.
Flip
You know what I'm saying, man?
Ish
So you never really know. I'm gonna. I'm gonna back out of this conversation.
Flip
I apologize.
Malcolm
I think. I think y'all have to.
Flip
It's called maid, though, you know. You know about it, right? Man, if you.
Malcolm
If you're in misery, I think people. I think people right to die with dignity. And I think people should make their own. Make their own choice.
Flip
We gotta get a call. Like, yo, I'm about to get. I'm about to have somebody help me transition on to the afterlife.
Malcolm
Yeah, I mean, if you're there, you.
Ish
Should respect that person's wishes.
Malcolm
Yeah, let that person.
Flip
She did respect, but I just didn't at the time.
Joe Budden
I'm sorry.
Melissa Ford
I think sometimes I think the opposite is selfish actually.
Ish
Keeping them alive when they want to go.
Melissa Ford
Look, you said you believe that person doing that is being selfish.
Flip
Yeah, cuz, it's so.
Ish
It's their life. It's their life.
Malcolm
They're the one in pain, so they're.
Melissa Ford
They're the ones that want to leave. So I think it's really it be us who still.
Flip
But I want to go. See, I want to go hang out with you. My like.
Malcolm
Come on.
Melissa Ford
That's the selfish part.
Flip
You wanna take a. I'm selfish.
Malcolm
Stay in excruciating pain so that I can kidnap you.
Melissa Ford
Cause I don't wanna. I don't wanna grieve you.
Flip
Well, no, no, not stay here. I'm beef deceased.
Malcolm
No, no.
Flip
I don't want them to stay in pain. But obviously if you could hold on a little bit longer so the family could come around and gather around, we would love that. That's it. That's all I'm saying.
Malcolm
Yeah, it's hard.
Flip
I don't wanna be selfish and make mockery out of it. Cause obviously it's important to the family and to my wife.
Ish
So why can't you just go now?
Melissa Ford
Yeah.
Malcolm
He got another.
Flip
Oh man, that's not nice, man.
Ish
I'm not. Listen, I'm not another move to do.
Flip
Now when my aunt in law passing away.
Ish
Go now then.
Malcolm
Go.
Ish
Go now.
Melissa Ford
Truthfully.
Ish
Go now. He's like, get up and go now.
Malcolm
He's like, I get paper episode. I'm not leaving here to Wednesday.
Ish
It's so important to you. Drop everything and go now.
Flip
Thank you, man. I got you.
Ish
Okay.
Joe Budden
Oh, well, I want nigga made too much last month. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Sorry, Nana. I'm with you and my friend.
Flip
That's not funny, Joe.
Joe Budden
I can get this bread out to you.
Flip
What's wrong with you?
Joe Budden
I need it right now. I'll do this for you, Nana. You wouldn't even want me to miss all this money.
Flip
If you knew.
Joe Budden
Oh, if only Nana knew. Sometimes you got to do it in the name of nature. That got sent some flowers to the funeral.
Flip
What's wrong with you, yo?
Joe Budden
Oh, sick. Yo, yo, what was that?
Melissa Ford
What was that movie?
Joe Budden
And think like a man. What was the name of that movie where their homeboy died? And at the end they all went to the beach and set the balloons up in their head why I get married. Whatever movie that was. Why they was acting like that was really their dead homie. Me in the balloon going to the black.
Ish
Tribute.
Melissa Ford
Tribute, everybody.
Ish
It's symbolic and meaningful.
Joe Budden
I'm gonna get in the house.
Malcolm
The only thing I would say on a serious. Not talking on a serious note though, as you think about. And I'm only saying it because we. We talked about this like sometimes people, elderly people get depressed and they don't know what they want or they think they want one thing, they want something else. Terminal patience is one thing. And I think people have a right to die with dignity. But I know, like, with my father, he.
Joe Budden
He.
Malcolm
We. They told us he was dying. They said he got a couple weeks, you know, just stop feeding him, like, you know.
Parks
Huh.
Melissa Ford
Wait, what?
Malcolm
Yeah, they said, like, the feed. Cause he didn't. Basically, he didn't want to eat anymore. And so they said, you could put it through a feeding tube or not, right? And so I said. And so I said, dad, I had my other brothers bounced. They were left. They didn't want to do it. They had me do it. I'm the youngest. And I said, hey, do you want to.
Joe Budden
There you go, throwing Frazier, yo, you ain't shit. I like to hear the funeral story. I get it. Yeah. Mark is foul. My other brother's bound. It was just me, youngest one.
Malcolm
You got this. So I went. And I was like, yo, you know, do you want us to keep doing the feeding tube or not? And he was like, just, I think I'm okay if I don't have the feeding tube. And I said. I said, I won't be upset with you. I won't be hurt. If you're ready to go. If you don't want the feeding tube, it's okay. He said, let him go. About two days later, as we were starting to do that, the doctor said, let's give him one more thing for his appetite Is an appetite inducing, but it's also an antidepressant. He took it. And it turned out after he took the appetite inducement, not only did he want to eat, but he felt better and didn't want to die anymore. I came back two weeks later because I traveled to San Antonio. I was waiting for. I was on standby.
Joe Budden
You going too hard for part of the month now, boy, you killing this shit.
Malcolm
I came back two weeks later. We had moved into a transitional home because my mom didn't want to die at home. And he was fucking up two plates of food. He was killing it. And he had gained, like 10, 15 pounds. He looked like himself again. And it was the fact that the appetite inducer was actually also antidepressant. I found out that a lot of elderly people are depressed and will be like, fuck it. Like, let me go. Because of the mood they're in. That's not negating what you're saying, which is when you're terminally ill and you're in pain, that's different. My dad was just depressed and Knowing the difference between those two things is important.
Ish
And also, MAID is a very. It's not. It's a lengthy process.
Flip
Yes.
Ish
You have to get asked a lot of questions. They really do. Like a cognitive and psychological testing to make sure that you are of sound mind making this decision. They ask you in front of people. They ask you alone, are you being coerced into this decision? Whoever's the executor of your will cannot be a witness because that's a conflict of interest. It's a lengthy process.
Flip
I understand, man.
Malcolm
I'm telling y'all now in front of everybody, don't do that shit for me. Keep me alive no matter what.
Ish
No dnr, nigga.
Malcolm
Hook me to the car charger. I don't give a fuck what you gotta do to figure out how to keep me alive. I don't care if I'm in pain. They'll figure something out. They find something new. It's not for me. But I respect everybody else's wishes.
Melissa Ford
Yeah, I'm. I'm the opposite. Once I get to a point where I can't do anything for myself and y'all can, let me go. I don't want to be a burden on nobody.
Malcolm
I feel that.
Melissa Ford
Let me go.
Malcolm
I want to be a burden. These niggas been a burning on me a long time. All right, you got it.
Joe Budden
Okay.
Malcolm
Send me to Frasier.
Joe Budden
Pull out that hat in the back with all of our happy topics. Now, two hours in, who wants to get happy? Anybody?
Flip
Or do we have any more stories?
Joe Budden
I'm still happy about when our parents died or, like, somebody we love. What you guys? What you guys think?
Flip
Stop.
Joe Budden
Made some.
Flip
Yeah.
Joe Budden
Would you do it? Would you want to live? Come on. What we got? Happy. All right.
Malcolm
Drake and umg, that makes us happy.
Joe Budden
Let's do it.
Melissa Ford
Ice, put the shit on me. UMG clapped back. They sued him, and they're trying to get out of the. Out of the lawsuit. I mean, the verbiage in the lawsuit was crazy.
Flip
Talk about it, Ice.
Ish
I got it.
Melissa Ford
Oh, you have it up?
Flip
Okay, let's go.
Ish
Big male plaintiff, one of the most successful recording artists of all time, lost a rap battle that he provoked and in which he willingly participated. UMG argued in a motion to dismiss. Instead of accepting the loss like the unbothered rap artist he often claimed claims to be, he has sued his own record label in a misguided attempt to salve his wounds. Who wrote this soldier?
Parks
He had an axe to grind her.
Ish
Shade the label said, not like us. Cannot form the bias of a defamation claim because Lamar's lyrics are protected as non actionable opinion and rhetoric hyperbole. This is especially true in the context of a rap battle, UMG added, where DISS tracks are often built around outrageous insights. UMG noted that this type of hyperbole was present in the nine diss tracks Drake and Lamar collectively released during their 2024 rap battle, and that Drake encouraged the feud by taunting Lamar to respond to his songs and lodge damning insults of his own, including accusing Lamar of domestic abuse on the track Family Matters. So that's.
Joe Budden
He told him.
Ish
That's pretty admitting.
Melissa Ford
Yeah. I just don't. I don't understand the. I don't understand Drake's suit. I never understood it.
Parks
Because it was a battle.
Melissa Ford
No. Not even just that you're. You're suing them for doing the same thing they did for you.
Parks
Right. That too.
Melissa Ford
That's the part that you benefited from this for years and now it's. Oh, wait, if. If it's true.
Joe Budden
What.
Melissa Ford
You know, y'all promoting the song.
Parks
Yeah.
Melissa Ford
I don't like that song, though. It's about me. It makes me look bad.
Joe Budden
It.
Melissa Ford
I'm gonna sue you.
Parks
It's all been bad.
Melissa Ford
That's. That's the part I just don't get. And I hear a lot of people saying, oh, you're taking the side of the machine. I'm not taking the side of nothing in this. I just don't understand. It's like.
Joe Budden
It's.
Melissa Ford
It's cool as long as it works for me.
Parks
I'm taking the side of rap battles.
Flip
Yeah.
Parks
It was a rap battle.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Parks
And it didn't go your way. And that's it. I'ma still listen to Drake music. Music I still do listen to Drake. I think a lot of people are in the same boat. The suit is stupid. I think it was all for the super bowl, but clearly still happening. So I don't know.
Melissa Ford
Following through. I don't know what y'all think.
Joe Budden
I think Party Next Door better be in the studio coming up with the fastest Nokia remix he can. That's what I think. Are you. You crazy as hell. We going to do a album together and your little song without me going go. You got me up.
Flip
Y.
Joe Budden
He always get the bad end of the.
Melissa Ford
I a even think about that. I'm listening to what they play on the radio. They play Nokia and give me a hug.
Ish
Yeah, give me a hug. Is has drink on it.
Melissa Ford
No, no, that's.
Joe Budden
They don't.
Parks
Yeah. They don't have.
Melissa Ford
They don't have party.
Malcolm
Party.
Ish
Sorry.
Flip
Never mind, baby girl.
Melissa Ford
I know key is hard, though.
Parks
It is.
Joe Budden
If I'm party next door. I'm not leaving the studio until I think of a new one of that for him to approve for him. And you crazy like, damn.
Melissa Ford
That is kind of fire. I'm. I'm going use that one though. Let me. Let me get that new album coming.
Joe Budden
I'd be tight. I know are not supposed to say that because it's still your album.
Melissa Ford
No, I would be tight. 100%.
Joe Budden
I'd be tight. I don't give a. I would say it.
Melissa Ford
I'm absolutely. I would be tight.
Joe Budden
I'm over the lawsuit. I'm over the law suit above my pay grade. I don't know who's doing what. I don't know why they're doing it. I'm. I'm. It's. It's last. It's a last year thing to me. Let it be relevant to the people it's relevant to, which is umg, Lucian and fucking Drake. Ovo. I don't care. I don't care. Like, it has no bearing on me. Win or lose.
Melissa Ford
I just want music. It's so sad.
Joe Budden
I don't even want that.
Melissa Ford
No.
Joe Budden
I want music from n. I don't Y'all have trained me into. Okay, there's. We not getting albums from all of the people I love. I told y'all throughout the whole week I'd just be thinking of all of the artists that I love. That just. Just off it now.
Melissa Ford
It's like if y'all often the.
Joe Budden
I'm be sitting by the itunes store for right when they drop, they'll drop.
Melissa Ford
That's what I'm saying. So it's just like I. If. If y'all. That's all I care about.
Joe Budden
If they drop a really dope project, then we'll get another one in six years.
Parks
Yeah.
Joe Budden
I mean, Drake was the exception today. I'm not really talking about him because he was dropping. But scary out there.
Malcolm
I ain't gonna hold you. I could go for a Drake album if it's. If he's just rapping. I don't. I hate the. The singing. But if he actually is just spitting bars.
Joe Budden
Bars.
Malcolm
I could go for it.
Melissa Ford
I don't think you ever get that. I think you've never gotten that.
Joe Budden
True.
Melissa Ford
And nor will he ever do that because his fan base is just too big for that. I just want a Drake album. I don't give a what. Long as I don't want experimental Drake like the. The dance album or. I don't need none of that. Give me Drake that I've become a. I've been a fan of since 08.
Joe Budden
It's rumored that he is coming, I'm sure.
Melissa Ford
And. And it's rumored that it ain't gonna be long.
Malcolm
And you don't think this UMG lawsuit is going to hem that up at all?
Joe Budden
It doesn't have to.
Flip
I don't.
Parks
Yeah, he'll find a way. Same way he did with the Party album. That's just really pretty much a drink.
Melissa Ford
Go. Go get with one producer or something and do it. Yeah, we've seen that trick a bunch of times. Yeah, the producer album, where it's his album featuring you or y'all together, but now it's over there.
Joe Budden
Got it. Or the label could have no problem with putting out a Drake album. We can have our fight and we can continue our fight. But if you got one, we have paperwork that says that we. We in on that.
Flip
Where do you see this going?
Ish
Like if he loses the lawsuit or what?
Flip
I'm saying the lawsuit in general. Right. They're trying to get it dismissed. If it doesn't dismiss it, what does it put out there to the other artists?
Parks
It's gonna get dismissed, I think.
Melissa Ford
Huh?
Parks
I think it's gonna get dismissed.
Flip
You think it's gonna get dismissed?
Joe Budden
Yeah, same.
Ish
But if it doesn't, is there a countersuit?
Parks
I don't know.
Malcolm
As of now, I have kind of.
Parks
Clocked out of this as well.
Joe Budden
Got it.
Malcolm
I think UMG's game was to get this dismissed out of hand at the early. And they didn't dismiss it. It's still moving forward, but I still think that it's not going to. I don't know if he'll be successful. It doesn't seem like he's going to be successful. Based on what? The legal expert. I'm not a legal expert, but that's what they're saying.
Ish
I've heard the same.
Joe Budden
Y'all think Luigi's getting off? No.
Ish
You talked about.
Joe Budden
No, I don't remember your answer.
Ish
Well, we talked about jury selection and just juries being committed to finding reasonable doubt.
Joe Budden
Yeah. That's why I want to know your answer. I don't remember it.
Melissa Ford
No, I don't think he's getting off at all. I think he's a patsy and they're going to make sure he don't get off.
Ish
Patsy. Like he didn't do it.
Flip
When y'all say you don't think it did. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait. When y'all say things like that, right? He didn't do it.
Joe Budden
You don't think he did it either?
Malcolm
Now I was shaking my head how always think somebody didn't do it.
Flip
Yeah. When you say he didn't do it.
Joe Budden
Those were his eyebrows.
Flip
What do you think?
Melissa Ford
What do.
Malcolm
What do you.
Flip
What do you think happened then? Like, do you think they just found somebody to make them be the fall guy? How did they convince him to be the fall guys guy?
Melissa Ford
They might not convince you.
Ish
So he was on his way to do that actual thing, but somebody beat him to it and knew he was going to do it. Kind of.
Melissa Ford
Or it could have been planned. He. He could have been coached through it. Like it wasn't just his idea.
Joe Budden
Right.
Malcolm
You were.
Melissa Ford
You were led to do this.
Malcolm
So he might have actually executed you, saying. But just might not have been.
Ish
Yeah, he was a tool. He was cog in the wheel. Got it.
Malcolm
Okay.
Ish
I don't know about that because early.
Malcolm
On people were saying, oh, that wasn't really him. Like he wasn't the guy. Like it was a mistaken identity. Oh, this crazy, like, scandal. And I'm like, I don't believe that. I think he open did just what it looked like. He pulled out a gun and shot somebody on broad daylight. And they got on the city bike.
Joe Budden
And left and went to McDonald's.
Parks
Got a full fish.
Joe Budden
That's the part that just got a little. Hey, I think he did it too.
Melissa Ford
With all the evidence on him.
Joe Budden
Do I believe that? Yeah. Do I believe that he was just needed a McChicken when he was up. He might be hungry, but yeah, too great of a plan to run to McDonald's and sit there with all the shit.
Melissa Ford
This makes me question things like the amount of planning that went into doing that. And then the movement afterwards. They just don't.
Malcolm
Cause you never gonna eat that. How you get food?
Parks
Shave your eyebrows?
Melissa Ford
Dog?
Ish
No, not them eyebrows.
Parks
Nah, you can take them out.
Melissa Ford
You would think the person that lays out that plan walks around with the evidence on them eyebrows.
Ish
Well, it was a 3D gun, so it's not. It's not a traceable weapon, has no serial number or anything. So what would be the harm? It's like it doesn't. The gun doesn't really exist.
Melissa Ford
I get.
Joe Budden
I don't want to hear none of that shit. If I'm a dude that tried to shoot Trump that shot his earlobe off, this dude's getting way too many props for me. Like, we don't know what this dude looked like still.
Melissa Ford
Right?
Ish
Exactly.
Parks
They killed him, didn't they?
Joe Budden
No.
Ish
So they said.
Malcolm
I don't know.
Joe Budden
They didn't kill him. I don't think. Think.
Malcolm
I don't know.
Joe Budden
I think there was footage of them actually arresting him.
Malcolm
I get. I don't remember, to be honest. I don't remember.
Joe Budden
The earlobe guy.
Melissa Ford
Let's check it out.
Parks
I think they took him out.
Joe Budden
Had to. He had them shook.
Ish
My man out to be there for like the.
Joe Budden
And that's not my man. I don't mean like that.
Ish
Of Luigi's trial.
Malcolm
It's gonna be tough.
Joe Budden
I don't.
Malcolm
I don't know who you exclude.
Joe Budden
Would you want to be a juror?
Ish
Yes, yes, yes. I would love to be.
Parks
Yeah. He was shot and killed.
Ish
Was his name. Is that funny that we don't know the name of the guy. Who?
Parks
Thomas Matthew Crooks.
Flip
The dude with the glasses on the roof.
Parks
Right.
Joe Budden
See, I don't know about that one. See, now, now, M ice they fair. You're like.
Ish
You're everybody.
Joe Budden
They did not kill that.
Malcolm
I'm more suspicious of that one. I think he did it too, but I'm more suspicious of that one.
Joe Budden
Dog, if somebody's trying to kill the president, man, you kill him. So that we don't get information as to who you may or may not be working for.
Melissa Ford
Yes, you damn right.
Malcolm
Yeah. You got snipers on you?
Melissa Ford
Damn right.
Joe Budden
We kill them immediately.
Ish
There was snipers everywhere. But yet they didn't see this.
Flip
They saw him initially. They saw him and they did nothing.
Melissa Ford
Listen, Let him.
Malcolm
He's white.
Melissa Ford
Listen.
Flip
No, they want him to knock off Trump.
Melissa Ford
Bam. The government, they turn. They. They turn a blind eye to certain. Allow certain to happen. He up.
Flip
He did.
Melissa Ford
We gotta kill this though, right? Because if they get him and he start talking, this is.
Malcolm
He up.
Melissa Ford
Moved.
Joe Budden
Trump would move.
Melissa Ford
Of all people. Yep.
Joe Budden
Trump would move.
Flip
It was almost over for that. Yo, you saw how close that was. He just did a head turn to do some.
Melissa Ford
He did watch enough, man. They be telling you about this.
Joe Budden
Wait, hold up. If you were a juror, what would you. Jur.
Ish
What would I jur.
Joe Budden
Yeah. What would your verdict be?
Flip
Innocent or guilty?
Ish
I would be there to listen to all of the evidence to make my decision objectively.
Flip
Okay.
Joe Budden
What do you think it would be?
Ish
Not motherfucking guilty.
Parks
Okay.
Malcolm
All right.
Ish
Free him.
Flip
Oh, shit.
Malcolm
I feel like a lot of people feel that way. Cause of how he looks.
Flip
Yes, they. Fuck me.
Ish
This has nothing to do with the way he looks.
Joe Budden
It's tough to Live in a world with all this patriarchy. It is. There you go.
Parks
It's tricky.
Flip
It's crazy.
Joe Budden
So you'd free him, huh?
Ish
Yes.
Joe Budden
Why?
Parks
Cause she thinks he's Canada.
Malcolm
Don't y'all get healthcare?
Melissa Ford
Don't y'all Got y'all. What the.
Ish
I haven't lived in Canada for almost 25 years.
Flip
But why freehand?
Ish
So I'm not. Not a tax paying citizen. So therefore I do not get the universal health care that the citizens of Canada get.
Melissa Ford
And even the people that's on the side of that because he killed the CEO of the. What? What company was it?
Ish
United.
Flip
Yeah.
Melissa Ford
Okay, Guess what they did.
Ish
They were denying. They were denying.
Melissa Ford
Guess what they did. Put a new CEO in.
Ish
They sure did.
Malcolm
Same outcome.
Melissa Ford
Guess what? Nothing changed.
Ish
You're right.
Joe Budden
So is this like when y'all wanted Jody Meeks first?
Melissa Ford
Yeah.
Ish
Who's Jody Meeks?
Melissa Ford
Yeah.
Joe Budden
Model.
Melissa Ford
Light skinned dude with the light eyes.
Ish
I wasn't invested in that. I didn't give a.
Melissa Ford
He wasn't white.
Joe Budden
Yeah, I'm sorry. It seems to be a trend.
Melissa Ford
My bad. That's my bad.
Joe Budden
I'm ignoring it. What else? What else? What else is. What else is important, Unimportant. What was we just talking about?
Malcolm
Some good news for all y'all. If you're thinking about sending your kids to Harvard, it's now free. Well, y'all make too much money. But it's free for anybody. Anybody who makes under $200,000. Any families that make under $200,000 a year. Your children now have free tuition at Harvard.
Joe Budden
What's the catch?
Ish
Wait, hold on. Is it children or students? Students of any age. So what if I make less than $200,000 a year? Can I go to. Can I go to Harvard for free?
Malcolm
If you can get in.
Parks
Oh, shade.
Malcolm
No, no, not to you. Not to you, Mel. I'm saying somebody asked, what's the catch? That's the catch?
Melissa Ford
Yeah, that's the catch.
Malcolm
It's not like more people can get.
Melissa Ford
They ain't accepting you niggas.
Malcolm
Right? Most people who get into Harvard already make more than $200,000 a year. There's a class component to it, so it doesn't really make Harvard that much more accessible.
Melissa Ford
People make a lot of folks legacy.
Malcolm
Yeah. Like rich people get into Harvard more than poor people. Poor people rarely get into Harvard, so it's not like they lowered the bar. And it's interesting because the right wingers on the Internet last night and all on TV were talking about this is, you know, Awful. This is more dei. This is letting ungrateful, unworthy people. It doesn't change the standards of Harvard. If you can get into Harvard, you can go. It just means poor people don't have to pay, which I think is a great thing.
Melissa Ford
I think it's great, too. I just would like to see the numbers.
Malcolm
I just think we need to not do it at Harvard, because who gives a fuck? I mean, like, do it at the state college. Do it at the local college. Do it at a place where people are actually getting in. Don't do it at a place where Harvard only lets in 3% of all applicants. So who cares? Like, there might be 10 poor people who get a free ride now. That's all.
Melissa Ford
If that.
Malcolm
If that.
Melissa Ford
This is just a headline to sound good, right?
Parks
That's it. Yeah.
Malcolm
Yeah, it sounds good.
Joe Budden
That's it.
Melissa Ford
That's it.
Malcolm
Some good pub, but it don't do shit for y'all. And nobody who was going to Harvard, who wasn't going to Harvard is now going to Harvard.
Melissa Ford
Then they said if you. If the family is under 100k, you get free room and board.
Joe Budden
Who's.
Melissa Ford
How many. What percent is that gonna apply to?
Malcolm
Again, almost nobody. And again, to your point, if you make 125 and you get in free, but you got to pay room and board. Room and board is a lot of money.
Joe Budden
It is.
Malcolm
So you still gotta come up cash out of pocket. So it's tough. So, anyways, it's an interesting announcement, but I want y'all to just look underneath the headline and realize it's not. Doesn't mean much. We should be fighting for free public education for everybody.
Parks
Agreed.
Melissa Ford
And you know they ain't doing that. Education is still a barrier, trying to keep folks out.
Malcolm
We get too serious. I can feel.
Flip
Yeah, yeah.
Melissa Ford
Let's get up out of there.
Joe Budden
You feel what I. I got.
Malcolm
I. I'm learning when to pivot.
Joe Budden
We gotta learn how to pivot. Without looking at me like this.
Malcolm
Smooth. Yeah.
Joe Budden
That was our first time. I wanted to shut up because that was my first time in 44 years hearing some Harvard news. I felt dumb as hell. That is fucked up. Oh, shit. Or great.
Parks
I don't know.
Joe Budden
Yeah. Fuck it. Holy shit. Harvard.
Melissa Ford
Well, in other news, Dreamville announced their final lineup.
Parks
They did.
Melissa Ford
Ooh, it's April. I wanna say a fifth and sixth in North Carolina. And it's.
Malcolm
Let me get.
Melissa Ford
Let me get the lineup up real quick for you guys.
Parks
I got you. It's Wayne Hot boys and the big timers. Juvenile, Turk, BG, Manny Fresh and Birdman 21 Savage party next Door, Ludacris, Ari Lennox, Chief Keef Keisha Cole, Boss Young, Nudie, Absol, Lou Omen, Kai Cash, Nico Brim, J. Cole, Eric Kabadu, Temple Glorilla, Jid Wale, Coco Jones, Big X, the Plug, Earth Gang, Anisha Kaz, Akia. I want to go.
Melissa Ford
Night one sounds amazing.
Ish
That's one night.
Parks
No, no, two nights.
Malcolm
I assume that was night two.
Melissa Ford
J. Cole once, he said, J. Cole. J. Cole. Erykah Badu, Tim's gorilla on down. That's night two.
Ish
Okay?
Malcolm
That's what I want to see.
Melissa Ford
Night one sounds amazing.
Malcolm
I'm old. I want night two. Oh. I mean, the big time is I want to see all that, too, but I just feel like I've seen them do their reunion thing now.
Melissa Ford
Yeah, they.
Joe Budden
They.
Melissa Ford
That's part lame, baby.
Flip
Leaving that nigga on stage. Yeah, we be seeing that. Why they going that nigga like that? They leaving that nigga on stage. He in the middle of a speech. They just walking out. Why the doing them like that, bro? What the fuck is. Is he on? What's up? Put me on, son.
Melissa Ford
I don't know.
Flip
Mac made on one of them. Why the. They keep leaving baby on stage mid speech? Yo, I love y'all niggas. Them in unison.
Joe Budden
Like, I'm seeing these clips. I'm like, yo, how old do you got to be before somebody pulls you aside like, yo, enough of this tour. Life, it ain't good no more. Like, remember the white dude that keep doing Vegas that they kept. That they kept sending out there? What's his name? Frankie something? No, you know the guy, but he shouldn't be out there no more.
Melissa Ford
Not Bob Hope, Tom Jones.
Joe Budden
It was Frank something then.
Parks
Frankie.
Ish
Frankie Valley.
Flip
Yeah, Frankie Valley. Frankie Valley.
Parks
Go to our president, white expert.
Joe Budden
I keep seeing clips of Birdman doing this. It's like, yo, at some point, you got to remember how old people are. It's like, get them out of there.
Flip
But he's not that old. How old is Birdman? He's not that old. It's got to be something else. Joe, he not old. Why he's.
Melissa Ford
Why he's touring or why they walking off on him?
Flip
Both.
Melissa Ford
I think it's business that we got to do this show together, but we don't really, with you like that. Yeah, I'm doing my contractual part here. This is yo need bread. Everybody ain't doing the unison. They might not really with him.
Joe Budden
Leave me over here while I'm Talking.
Melissa Ford
And not just that. If our business, if our business was right, I might not have to do this tour like Birdman robbed them for years according to this. So if our business was right, I wouldn't even be happy to be.
Flip
Let me say this. Do we really look at it as robbery? Nigga, he put the investment out there. He did a lot right. He presented them to the world.
Melissa Ford
Correct.
Flip
He marketed the promotion. I mean Birdman when the big. I don't really know the story. I'm not a hip hop head like you, but from what I seen when hot boys was out video shoots and all that stuff like you heard about Birdman putting that shit together.
Melissa Ford
Yes, absolutely.
Flip
Does he not deserve the kickback ROI investment plus more for all the investment that he had to put for six or seven motherfuckers. Juvenile, Mannie Fresh, Lil Wayne, all BG juvie.
Melissa Ford
Yes, yes, I'm agreeing with you. Now what happens is, and this is most hip hop. That's that initial deal I'm putting you on.
Joe Budden
Yes.
Melissa Ford
Now it might come time where all right, I, I've. I've become a bigger star than we might have imagined. I may want to restructure this deal now or I may want. I, I want to make more money now.
Flip
Yes.
Melissa Ford
No. And that's where the beefs come in with a lot, a lot of times I want to own my now. Oh, okay. Yo, Wayne was going to leave and go to Rockefeller with hov.
Joe Budden
Allegedly.
Melissa Ford
Okay. Allegedly. They told him, yo, we'll stay here, we'll give you your own label. Label gave him young money. What he didn't know. They gave him 49 of young money.
Joe Budden
Jesus.
Melissa Ford
So you really, you think you got your own label, but you don't because I got 51 of what we gave you. As you find out these things, you start to think the person that I looked up to that was my friend, that was my mentor that I caught. My father really did not have my best interest in mind.
Malcolm
But.
Melissa Ford
And now Beef.
Flip
But do you mean, does that mean I don't have your best interest in my in mind or that I have to make my money back that I.
Melissa Ford
Spent it might just using Lil Wayne alone. I think it's safe to assume you.
Ish
Recouped handsomely and then just Wayne.
Flip
But then, but then how about this? You hear plenty of times where somebody helps somebody become popular, put all away.
Melissa Ford
And put all the safe to us on you.
Flip
You hear a lot of stories where there somebody helps somebody get popping up, put all the leg work in and when they become famous they leave them in the desk.
Melissa Ford
They dip off. Absolutely.
Flip
So sometimes you got to protect yourself. Now, I don't know the details of it, but a lot of got to protect themselves.
Melissa Ford
Agree. You do got to. You have to protect yourself.
Flip
Put it the best.
Melissa Ford
That's where the problem go. Both sides are trying to protect themselves. And then you start to realize, oh well, we kind of married at this point. I really can't get XYZ without you. And here we go with them on tour together.
Joe Budden
I don't want to talk about them because I don't know. But what I can say in entertainment is it could look like somebody is successful enough to recoup and only 2% of earnings be going toward a recoupment. You never know when somebody is recouped or not according to the paperwork.
Melissa Ford
That's true. And it's shit. A lot of contracts are designed so you can't recruit coupe.
Joe Budden
Then there's that.
Flip
Yeah, okay.
Malcolm
All right.
Flip
So that's why they leaving them on stage.
Melissa Ford
Y that this is all speculation while.
Joe Budden
We'Re here, but I could understand that.
Melissa Ford
Is what I'm saying.
Joe Budden
Got it.
Flip
Me too.
Melissa Ford
Like this is just business.
Joe Budden
Iggy. Aelia tweeted on this news. Not this news, but related news. Universal Music. Mark my words, you ugly, you will pay me. What is ow. This has been going on between myself and them privately for over two years and counting. By the way, she continues. Crazy how in my entire career I was never paid a single royalty by Universal Music for anything outside of the usa. They owe me millions of dollars in back pay that they technically stole from me. As per my contract, I am due payment. The amount owed is in the eight figure range. Last week they tried to respond to my lawyer and offered me a settlement of 18k. I'm told this is a normal response from their lawyers. And after appearing in court, they end up paying millions as they're supposed to. Thankfully, I'm well off and I can and will pursue this issue until they pay me what they owe. But I'd like to publicly say that I think Universal Music are criminals who actively take advantage of all of their artists in perpetuity for their own gain. They are the scummiest company and they do this to so many artists who unfortunately can't afford to fight for what they're owed. Thus they get away with this behavior. Universal Music really needs to do better in their treatment of the artists who quite literally earned the millions via intellectual property they had zero part in creating. Yuck. That was her yuck, not mine.
Melissa Ford
I get it.
Joe Budden
This.
Melissa Ford
A lot of that sounds like buyer's.
Ish
Remorse on her part.
Melissa Ford
Yes. You.
Ish
Meaning she signed the contract, didn't read it through, and this is the outcome.
Melissa Ford
A lot of times I didn't really know I was signing this. I thought it was that, oh, I signed this, and now I want to rectify it. I'm old. Hey, she's doing it the right way because she got lawyers involved and stuff. She said this is normal, where they'll lowball offer you for a settlement. And I'm not even mad at that. Not taking the company side. But I'm never mad at the attempt.
Malcolm
I am.
Melissa Ford
I'm never mad at the attempt.
Malcolm
It's unethical. I mean, here's my thing. If you and I sign a deal and it's a bad deal, you just gotta hold that l. Right. But what I'm hearing her say and other artists say is sometimes they're dishonest, even in this context of the deal we sign. Like, they actually don't do what they say they're gonna do. And it's only when we do forensic accounting. It's only when we dig deeper that we realize they didn't give us the money. But the problem is the artist is.
Melissa Ford
So broke, they can't.
Malcolm
They can't afford to fight for the thing they actually deserve. I'm with you. If you sign a bad deal, you don't like the deal, you would. Yeah, yeah. But. But what I hear a lot of artists say is, is that these. These labels are stealing their money, and they know we don't have enough money to prove it. That's what. That's the part I think is fucking up.
Melissa Ford
And I'm with you. That. That part is up. I'm just talking about people signing bad deals and then regretting the deal later on.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Melissa Ford
Or had I known this, I would have never signed that. Well, and that's on you.
Ish
But doesn't almost every single artist say that?
Malcolm
Yeah, it's a predatory industry.
Melissa Ford
Exactly.
Parks
Yeah.
Malcolm
And that's the problem.
Melissa Ford
I remember. Well, it's. No, I'm sorry. I. I made this example to make it where, like, a regular person might understand who don't sign record label contracts.
Joe Budden
Tax.
Melissa Ford
We. We made the jokes before about the used car lot.
Joe Budden
All right?
Melissa Ford
You going on a used car lot.
Ish
And them selling you a lemon.
Melissa Ford
Nah, not a lemon.
Ish
Oh, okay.
Melissa Ford
Yo, you want this car?
Joe Budden
Cool.
Melissa Ford
We'll put you in this car. Give us five grand down. Your interest rate is 27.
Ish
You don't even know what that Means, yeah, I understand.
Melissa Ford
You just so glad. All right, cool. I got the car. I can afford to pay. Then you realize, you go home and look at it. Wait, the car is worth how much? And if I pay this off, I've bought this car three times over. Oh, they fucked me. No, they didn't fuck you. You don't know what you were signing.
Malcolm
And now you want to be true, though, right? I mean, like, you made a bad choice, but somebody. It's still predatory.
Melissa Ford
You got in the bed, though.
Flip
That's all I'm saying.
Malcolm
It's a predatory system. That it is. They go to people who don't have many choices, and they pray on your desperation and they pray on your desperation and lack of knowledge. I remember I wasn't here, but I remember watching when Jadakiss was here with his. With his father, Njwan, and they were talking about this. The first deal they got offered was trash. And the only thing that stopped him.
Melissa Ford
From doing it was the parents getting.
Malcolm
Was a parent who would say, don't do this. Interestingly enough, he ended up with a bad boy deal that ended up being trash even after that.
Melissa Ford
But you heard what he told him. As soon as y'all got 18, you went and signed your own deal without us looking at it, right? And it turned out to be a bad deal.
Malcolm
The problem is, for me, some people don't have that knowledge and just make their own choice. A lot of people take that first deal not knowing any better, and that's.
Flip
That's.
Malcolm
That's what I have issue. If everybody ended up in that second deal, that's on you.
Melissa Ford
But see, now, today, I'm only speaking today. I think if you end up in that first deal today, that's kind of on you. With all the information and stories we got now, you should be skeptical of any deal that comes across your desk. You should have it looked at.
Flip
It's the money, man. It's needing money. It's needed at instant.
Melissa Ford
And they hit you with the, yo, I got a bag of money right here and a diamond chain for you. But you gotta sign right now. This offer expires when I walk out the door. Niggas are gonna sign.
Malcolm
Yeah. I mean, that's capitalism. And so I guess that's what I'm saying. I hate that people are making bad choices, but I do got smoke for the companies, too, because they could not do that, and they could still make a lot of money without talking to everybody.
Flip
Then how would they benefit? How would they grow? How would they be able to get.
Malcolm
Other if Universal made half the money it made, it needs to be universal.
Flip
The money needs to go in the circle. To me, it needs to go in the circle so you can invest in more artists and do whatever you can do. And the game is there to be taken advantage of. People are there to be taken advantage of. Whether.
Ish
So basically ethics don't. It don't have any play any role in business whatsoever.
Flip
No, I, I. And the business that had ethics, a lot of them went down under.
Melissa Ford
I don't know, some of the mom.
Flip
And pop shop, some of the people that started that had ethics when they wanted to pay. Like when we watch a lot of businesses go down under for having ethics. It sounds up, but that's what True. Whether society is built like that or not, that's, that's what but there's a.
Malcolm
Big, there's a gap. There's a huge gap between exploiting the out of everybody and making deals so generous that you, that your company can't sustain itself. There's a middle ground.
Flip
Yeah, I agree.
Parks
Even just like slightly once you set the slightly up.
Melissa Ford
But once you set the bar.
Flip
Show me the middle of, of making.
Melissa Ford
Deals that are, as you said, generous to everybody. You, the entire industry up doing that. And they're not trying to do. Because now a new bar is.
Flip
Let's talk about.
Malcolm
Yeah, that's a good thing.
Melissa Ford
Ain't trying to change the yo. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Malcolm
Let's remove it. But it is broke.
Joe Budden
But it's broke.
Melissa Ford
To who?
Flip
Let me ask you a question, Mark.
Malcolm
Let's remove every artist.
Melissa Ford
That's this I'm talking about as the business, as the company.
Flip
Cool.
Melissa Ford
You smart enough to not sign this deal. Salute to you. I'm gonna go give it to him.
Malcolm
This is not about being smart. This is what I say. If just Joe's example. If Joe came in here, pay all of us exactly half of what he pays us. Whatever that that number is. Right. A lot of us, A lot of us would. That would be fucked up. But a lot of us might be in a position where we can't leave.
Flip
True.
Malcolm
And we can just say that's business.
Flip
Let me ask you a question.
Malcolm
And it wouldn't be that we're not smart enough to know that. It's just we wouldn't have a choice.
Flip
Let's remove that part. Let's talk about generosity. We watch a lot of people be generous in life and go down on it. Nigga Artists MC Hammer N Generosity. Put them down under Mike Tyson Generosity put him down under. Where's the middle ground? Yeah, but sometimes you have to do things to. Sometimes you have to take advantage in order to succeed.
Joe Budden
But here's what.
Flip
I'm just saying. It's fucked up to say, but it's true.
Malcolm
Just let me finish. Let me finish this response.
Flip
I'm saying something put me in my place.
Malcolm
No, it's not put me in your place. I'm just saying MC Hammer giving. Buying 30 cars and a whole lot of dances. Right. That's generosity. A company not exploiting you is not Universal. Is not being generous by paying people what they owe. Oh. Or by not extracting all the labor from somebody and giving them just the slightest amount to keep them on board. That's not generosity. And I think part of our. The system is up is we act like they're doing us a favor by paying us what's ours.
Flip
The system is up.
Malcolm
Yeah. I don't want to compare that to generosity. I don't want to compare Universal to the rapper who just came out the projects is buying all his homies change. Like, that ain't the same. You know what I'm saying? Like, they owe us. They owe us. I'm saying us like corporations owe everything.
Flip
They do.
Malcolm
Yeah. So that, to me, that's the difference.
Melissa Ford
I think they owe whatever you agree on in your contract.
Flip
Yeah.
Joe Budden
All right.
Melissa Ford
And if you agree on some bad terms, then you. You got some bad terms.
Flip
Yeah.
Joe Budden
I agree. I agree with that part. And I mean, y'all segue kind of quick, but to whom they concerned, if you'll keep the job with half the paid. And just before you leave. Right. Name and all.
Melissa Ford
Just write down the little box over there.
Joe Budden
A little box over there.
Melissa Ford
Little half.
Joe Budden
Like, if you. If. If on half to pay, you'll still come to work out of need and necessity, then all you got to do is grab a pen and paper and write it. Just write it over there.
Melissa Ford
Get that done asap.
Joe Budden
Anyways. Oh, yeah. What are you talking. Telling me about Kanye? Let me hear it.
Melissa Ford
No, I was just. I have Kanye, so I don't really be seeing. I don't see, but that's yours. People keep tagging me and pause. And he's. He's on a tweet rant again, going off about a whole bunch of. And one of the things that stood out, he said, Jim Jones. And I'm like, wait, what?
Malcolm
I love that.
Ish
And they were just on tour together, kind of. Oh, they were hanging out. Okay. I check it.
Melissa Ford
Jim went out there to Japan, hung Out bigged him up, gave him the.
Parks
Jeans and the belt.
Joe Budden
Yeah.
Melissa Ford
Kanye tweeting the Diplomat piece and all of that, and.
Ish
And then this.
Melissa Ford
What you want, man?
Malcolm
It don't take much. You do that all the time.
Flip
Probably part of the plan, man, to bring visibility.
Melissa Ford
I don't know.
Ish
What's the plan? To bring visibility.
Flip
Where To Jim's album.
Malcolm
Oh, there's better ways to do that.
Parks
Jim Jones has a good album. Listen to it.
Ish
I like it.
Melissa Ford
That's my favorite shit I'm listening to right now.
Flip
Is anybody gonna take what he's saying serious based off his rants?
Melissa Ford
But if this is gonna make you go, if this is gonna make you say, hey, Kanye said, fuck Jim Jones. Let me go listen to his album now.
Joe Budden
Let me go.
Melissa Ford
I don't think that would do that.
Joe Budden
Yeah.
Malcolm
Nah, it don't. But that's what he been doing the whole time. He.
Joe Budden
I don't sound like he spoke to somebody, Kim. I'm not putting cam name in nothing, but it sound like he spoke to somebody.
Malcolm
I think he's not. I mean, it could be. I think that's true, and I think he's not well. And he just does shit. I remember he was on Drink Champs calling Diddy a fed and fuck Diddy and tweeting crazy shit about Diddy. And then just last night, he's on Instagram telling him that he's like a father to him.
Melissa Ford
Yeah, that's. Some more of his tweets was about that. So he's up here basically defending the Cassie video.
Joe Budden
Kanye west is right now.
Melissa Ford
Yes.
Ish
What's he saying in defense? Okay, all right, never mind. All right, all right, Fine, fine, fine, fine.
Melissa Ford
He's victim blaming, let's put it that way.
Ish
Thank you for summing it up.
Malcolm
It's. It's wild. And then, you know, he. Diddy called him last night or in the last day or two, and then he Shade Room had an exclusive one it. And they played the whole audio call. And it's weird. First of all, I think Puff called Ye because he wanted to talk to Ye. I don't think Puff knew that Ye was gonna be putting it on the Internet. Like, I can't imagine calling somebody from prison being this private, not doing no interviews, and suddenly wanting my whole conversation in public.
Ish
But wait, what kind of phone was he talking to him on?
Malcolm
It was a legal one.
Ish
The one where they say this call is being recorded.
Melissa Ford
Yeah, but that don't mean that this person that you're talking to is recording it. That means that the prison Recording it don't mean we're gonna give it to the Shade Room either. That's just saying if you say some shit in on this call.
Ish
How do we hear any kind of calls? The calls on Dateline, the calls on whatever blog. Like, we hear them because they're recorded. So him thinking that this isn't going to go anywhere, Him, Diddy talking to Kanye seems a little preposterous to me.
Melissa Ford
I think anybody that talks or. Or text Kanye should expect it to go out.
Joe Budden
Yeah.
Ish
At this point, that too.
Melissa Ford
That's just anything. I. I was making that joke with my girl yesterday. I'm like, kanye is the dude that if. If he texts you, you don't even respond, that you got a voice note him.
Parks
Like, I don't even know if you.
Flip
Want to do that.
Melissa Ford
You might not even want to do that. Like, you just.
Malcolm
Nah, I wouldn't say nothing to him. And Puff didn't say nothing to him. Crazy. But he was just talking to him clearly in what seemed like a private moment, and he was trying to give ye this pep talk. He was like, you know, the system is wicked, wicked, wicked. That's the only thing he said about himself. Kind of like as if the wicked system is why he's in jail. As if, like, he had did nothing wrong and it's just a wicked system. But then on top of that, he was trying to give ye the pep talk. Like, you gotta get back on stage. We need you rocking mics again. We need you cutting samples again. We need. I need the old ye back. And ye was just like, yes, sir. He was very, like, deferential and, like, mature in the conversation. And then he was like, you've been like a father to me even before I met you. You raised me, you know? And it was all. It was like a love fest with Puff. And then on Twitter, he's doing the opposite. He's tearing down Kim, he's tearing down Jim Jones, he's tearing down all these people. So it seems like he's on another rant, like Flip said. And I don't know if it's because the album is out, if it's a mental health thing, if it's all the above. I don't know know. But I ain't going to lie. Sometimes it gets addictive. I can't stop watching.
Parks
That's not the opposite. I don't want to watch it.
Melissa Ford
Complete opposite.
Malcolm
Yeah.
Melissa Ford
I said. After last time, I was like, all right, enough. Block, mute. I don't want to see your no more.
Flip
He just saying Everybody.
Joe Budden
Yeah, except for Joe.
Flip
He always big. He always big up Joe. Joe, but he love you. I, I, I'm about to look into you a little bit.
Melissa Ford
A little more.
Flip
You know, Joe was the only nigga. He don't say Jim was just with him, but he go big up Joe in subway. He at church. Bigging up Joe. He's somewhere else. Bigging up Joe. Well, Joe Button say everywhere. What's, what's going on? Joe put me on to you and Kanye relationship.
Joe Budden
I don't know what to say.
Flip
Why he never shoot at you. You say a lot of preposterous up here. That deserves it. That can get you shot at.
Joe Budden
And be clear, for me, Joe Budden, God's not finished is an insult.
Ish
It could be taken a couple of different insults.
Joe Budden
What we just say nobody whole name singing it and then say, God is not finished with you. Are you crazy? Stop bigger heights for you.
Flip
Exactly.
Joe Budden
Somebody is in insult.
Parks
What saying you're a little rough around the edges.
Joe Budden
Yeah, this man.
Flip
He tried, like.
Malcolm
Did he say when he was a billionaire?
Joe Budden
Yeah, two weeks ago.
Flip
When he was in Japan.
Joe Budden
He was singing. He was just singing on at his show. He said, joe, but God's not finished. And then started texting me with. I'm like, God is done with me.
Melissa Ford
No, he not, though.
Joe Budden
Not.
Flip
No, he not. You still got. He places. You trying to get word. God's not finish your. God don't play about you. I'm going to get down to the bottom of you and Kanye shi. I'm. Let me call shade and find out. If I go through your phone.
Joe Budden
Nothing is happening with me and Kanye Joe. That nigga, I can assure you.
Flip
So, so dis him now so he can shoot at you. Say something so he can shoot at you. He don't shoot at you. You play. You said mad shit the last time he shouted you out recently. A couple of pause before that, we was talking about how the shit that he's doing is ridiculous. And what does he go on as.
Joe Budden
Far as, yeah, I come on you and say, I'm not the talking about him. He said, oh, Joe Button, somehow he found a way. Yeah, he finding a way. I was. I didn't even have him written on my list with all this y'all talking about. I had him with him going back and forth with Kim over trademarking North.
Malcolm
That's what I was about to talk about.
Joe Budden
I thought that was kind of interesting.
Malcolm
I thought it was super interesting.
Joe Budden
I wanted to hear where y'all stood on that. If y'all saw the text exchange.
Malcolm
Without.
Joe Budden
Pulling it up, just off the dome.
Flip
Got it.
Joe Budden
I guess There was a puff song that had north vocals that Kim stopped. Kim said, ah, not the look I want. We dead in that. So her and Kanye had a text exchange about who has the right to do that and who owns North's trademark, which Kim let him know. Or Kanye found out once that block happened that, oh, shit, it's Kim, and she can do that. So he came in hot, and he was like, yo, amend this. Amend this, or I'm going to turn it up on both of us. No one will be able to recover if you just read how Kanye texts people. I can't see you wanting to text with him.
Melissa Ford
That. That's what. That's what I'm saying.
Flip
I feel she should.
Joe Budden
The world was in a better place when Kanye didn't have a phone.
Parks
Yeah, that was a long time, too, where he was, like, a proponent of just the laptop.
Joe Budden
What'd you say? Alfred's more than that.
Melissa Ford
It's more because on Playboi Carti's album, she's on the album, and Kanye was supposed to have been on there, and he was taken off. So now he's tight.
Malcolm
That's kind of funny.
Joe Budden
No, this is funny now.
Melissa Ford
Now he's tight.
Joe Budden
That's funny. That's funny.
Parks
That's what all this spurs from to me.
Flip
Yeah. I don't feel that she should amend it. Y'all don't feel that he should have, right?
Melissa Ford
Hell no.
Flip
Why? Because of how he's acting on Internet?
Ish
He's erratic.
Malcolm
Yeah. If you. If you're fighting to get your kid on Diddy's album, that's crazy. I feel like that's a sign right there that you're not capable of making good choices.
Flip
Come on, man. Stop it. Come on.
Malcolm
Would you put your kid on Diddy's album?
Flip
Yes.
Joe Budden
If.
Melissa Ford
Which.
Flip
Yeah, the love one that. Before. Yes.
Ish
No, we're talking about now.
Flip
Diddy. I don't. I'm not aware of an album that Diddy has right now, but if he did have an album.
Joe Budden
My Child do that. You said you work with Kevin Spacy.
Flip
He don't. Exactly.
Melissa Ford
It's a love album.
Flip
I would. I would have Junior One of My Children on that album. Yes, the love album that. That came out. Yes.
Melissa Ford
All right, let me ask you, cuz. That album came out before all the Other started out.
Flip
Yeah, it's true.
Melissa Ford
So if he had an album coming out next month, would you allow your child on that album?
Joe Budden
I don't know. And it's a. The title is crazy of the album.
Malcolm
No More love.
Joe Budden
Title was something like. Let me tell you what she did, though.
Flip
You know, it's gonna stop it.
Joe Budden
The title. Something like, hey, she wasn't innocent.
Parks
They sped up the film.
Flip
Nah, I wouldn't do that. No, nothing like that.
Joe Budden
They sped up the film.
Flip
If it was an album of just pure art, man. I mean, to be honest. I mean, we saw the video. But like what May said recently that if he was on the list, he'll go visit Diddy. Right? A lot of this stuff is alleged. It still should be regardless if it's guilty before innocent. Still should be innocent before guilty. So right now, if he was coming out with an album that he had a record on and one of my children were on it, I would approve the sample. I would approve the record.
Malcolm
But the point is, I think she has a right to say as a parent, I don't think that's.
Joe Budden
I do.
Flip
Look, I do think so as well.
Malcolm
You know what I'm saying? Her and ye go back. And then ye also was making it like a race thing too. Like, now a white woman is controlling.
Melissa Ford
Well, I'm gonna read a couple of tweets on that because the first one is I held my tongue about not being on Cardi album. Him going to my ex to ask my daughter to be on the song two days later was too far. Nobody finna play with me.
Flip
Who's him talking about?
Melissa Ford
Cardi.
Joe Budden
Cardi.
Melissa Ford
Cuz Cardi had to hit Kim to get. Oh God, the daughter on the album.
Joe Budden
That's funny, though.
Melissa Ford
And then he says, so Kim got the name and likeness over my black children. So a white woman has control over the name and likeness of my black children. Children. And then speaks to Cardi about putting my daughter on a song with him. These dumbass celebrities be trying to play with me in my face.
Malcolm
Isn't this first he need to knock off that white woman? First of all, when he was with.
Ish
Us, he married her, right?
Malcolm
First of all, he wasn't. She wasn't white when you was her, right?
Melissa Ford
No, she was.
Malcolm
Well, no, no, he wasn't claiming her as white.
Ish
No, he wasn't that. The claim wasn't this.
Malcolm
You know how black people. She's Italian, she's Armenian, she's. They fight all kinds of. To say she ain't white. Now all of a sudden you ain't with her. She white again.
Flip
Yes.
Malcolm
But also, like, you made a choice. If.
Melissa Ford
If you.
Malcolm
If you choose to have a child with a white woman, then yes, A white woman is going to control what your children do. That's the choice you made for. Yeah, let it. You got, you got, you got.
Joe Budden
That's why the foundational black say you're.
Flip
Not supposed to do the fba.
Joe Budden
That's why they say, you know, the.
Flip
FBA are their jobs instead of Kanye, Right? Fba.
Malcolm
Don't.
Flip
Stop. Please leave.
Joe Budden
Hey, listen.
Flip
Leave them alone.
Joe Budden
Stop. We can't joke like that because they down with you.
Flip
Stop, please.
Joe Budden
What? I will say I don't even want to talk about Kanye. I'll talk about me if any one of my baby mamas wake up and start rocking a swastika shirt. I'm not giving them rights to anything simple.
Flip
Boom.
Parks
Yeah, I agree.
Melissa Ford
That's it.
Flip
I agree.
Joe Budden
Not a trademark, not a copyright, not a child support. Do you think it's his going to get custody?
Melissa Ford
I was just saying, whatever rights you do got, we can't. Ain't gonna talk about that.
Malcolm
That's different.
Flip
You can take away.
Joe Budden
Put them rights in a little mason jar, mail it on over. Mail it on over.
Flip
I agree with you on that.
Joe Budden
A swastika, Cuz even. No matter. Regardless of your views on things like you not thinking about your kid having to go to school and just be outside and walk around, right?
Flip
And like he's standing in the middle of the street with a swastika, having people record him. He's just doing. He's doing both.
Parks
He's doing bull.
Flip
He's doing a lot of.
Parks
He's been doing for a while.
Melissa Ford
He's doing and not caring how it affects anybody else.
Joe Budden
God's not finished. Or you. No, for real.
Flip
God not done with you either.
Joe Budden
I think he is.
Melissa Ford
No, not.
Joe Budden
This is it, y'all.
Flip
Cuz you in your mood. We don't give a About that moon. You gota. You gotta take care of us that moon. Wait, wait. This ain't made. We not made.
Joe Budden
This perfectly lines up to one of my we not helping you topics I had for y'all.
Parks
This says with a chunk.
Joe Budden
This lines up perfectly. This lines up perfectly. But I didn't do it. Cause I ain't want y'all to judge me for being depressed.
Parks
Let's hear it.
Flip
Pissing her off, man. She doing the eye roll.
Ish
Go ahead.
Joe Budden
Wait, I didn't say nothing to Mel.
Ish
Go ahead.
Flip
Which one of us. Was it Mel?
Joe Budden
I didn't even say nothing to Mel just now.
Ish
You didn't go ahead.
Flip
Was it me, Mel?
Ish
Go ahead.
Malcolm
I missed this.
Joe Budden
Yeah, that was y'all. What did I say to Put it on me.
Melissa Ford
I didn't even know Mel was ma'am.
Flip
My mood just changed. I don't know it was you.
Ish
Do you guys just really, really. It's tasteless as fuck. Stop talking about that shit. It is not a light matter. Don't do it. Step the fuck away from it.
Flip
What are you talking about?
Ish
The maid shit. Don't mention it. Don't talk about it. If you cannot be respectful about it, leave it alone.
Parks
I'm lost. Carry on.
Flip
The depressing thing, Mel, that wasn't to you. That was more to Joe. To bother him and say that we weren't helping him do anything. It was a joke to him because he came in here saying that he was depressed earlier. It was supposed to be between him and I, but I apologize to you if that offended you.
Ish
Thank you.
Flip
I would not crack that joke again. Thank you, Joe.
Parks
Depress us.
Flip
Depressed.
Joe Budden
Well, cool. But chill for a minute. I love when someone else's trigger defends me. That's right.
Melissa Ford
Your whole.
Flip
Oh, she started to roll her eyes. And you probably won't do that, man. You tell me.
Ish
Okay, okay. Yeah, you're right. But when it comes to something like that, I apologize.
Joe Budden
You got to stand strong for that.
Flip
Yeah, I'm sorry. That wasn't even thinking.
Melissa Ford
I don't remember now.
Joe Budden
I don't. What was I talking about? Just.
Ish
We were talking about Kanye swastikas.
Parks
There's a lot of different things we could find depressing in here.
Malcolm
You pivoted his story about to tell us something about.
Joe Budden
My depressing question was, has life killed hope for any of you? And if not, then what are the things that you still have hope for?
Parks
That's heavy.
Joe Budden
Well, yeah, I told you it was one of my depressing topics.
Flip
What's up with you today, nigga? Nigga.
Joe Budden
But then I was like, but wait. Cause while it started off rooted in depression, the more I thought about it, I was like, well, that's one of the great things about having youth on your side and being young is that you have hope for so many things.
Ish
You're still optimistic. Life hasn't fucking kicked you in space enough.
Joe Budden
And as you get older, right? Like, I'm in the shower today at 44, like, you know, doing math. Like, well, another 20 to 30 years would be awesome. And that makes things kind of finite, right? Like, there's some things we could lose hope for.
Melissa Ford
Yeah, but that's where y'all gonna say it. But that's where family and kids come in, bro. Your hope now translate transfers into that.
Joe Budden
Okay, I know that that's the cool.
Melissa Ford
That's the truth.
Joe Budden
Listen to me. I know that that's true for some and a cool cliche thing to say. And do I too feel like that when I look at my kids and then I remember that no, we're gonna die and they're gonna keep going and they're gonna come to the funeral with the shades and shed some thug tears and then they're gonna keep it pushing on their own journey. So even that dampens my.
Melissa Ford
Oh, you just wanna be in a sad place then?
Joe Budden
Well, I'm just saying you can feel good looking at your kid, but you can be dead and whenever you're dead and then that's it.
Melissa Ford
So. So that can get depression. You're gonna die no matter what.
Joe Budden
Answer my hope question, super dad.
Melissa Ford
I just told you. Yes, I still have hope now. The hope transfers into my kids. The hope for what? That I could bring her up to be a proper functioning adult in fucking society. I can give her the things that I didn't have coming up. Like, it's almost like I'm giving her a life that I just couldn't have. Access to schools, access to these things. I get a kick out of that. That's my.
Flip
When you love Joy, when you love.
Joe Budden
Me, do you have hope for anything outside of. Outside of your daughter, your kids or your family related stuff?
Melissa Ford
Like personal hope?
Joe Budden
Yeah, any hope, just hope.
Melissa Ford
That is my source of hope.
Parks
It's hard to have hope in the world at large.
Melissa Ford
I will say shit is fucked up out there. So I look into them.
Flip
I agree with Ice.
Joe Budden
Yeah, like it sounds like. It sounds like a weird question, so you really get to trying to answer it. Ain't got no hope.
Melissa Ford
I got hope.
Parks
I got hope.
Flip
You don't have hope. I got hope that I hope to see my children, you know?
Joe Budden
Yeah, you is hopeless.
Melissa Ford
No, it's not my.
Flip
Stop doing that.
Melissa Ford
Yeah, you got to stop.
Flip
Cuz you just don't share your feelings like that. But stop doing. You have to feel the same way. You can't be when you have, when you have kids. You can't.
Joe Budden
I do, but I think that kid is a scapegoat. And the world, world is just much larger. All right, we got that. Put that, put that in our default box.
Melissa Ford
Why is that? Escape.
Flip
What if you. What if you.
Joe Budden
Because put that in the default check now. What else is there in the whole universe that you have hope for or that the hope has dwindled for?
Flip
What if you not having hope affects your family? What if you not having hope and you being grumpy or whatever it is affects your family, affects how they move day to day day family is important to a lot of us. Having hope and inspiring and. And wanting them to know that no matter what happens, I'm going to be here for you. And I have hope to see you live and be the best person that you can be in this world.
Joe Budden
Talk.
Malcolm
That's beautiful.
Joe Budden
I didn't think so.
Malcolm
I'm just let try new ways to rap. I'm trying some new techniques. How was that workshop? And some things. Yeah, all right.
Joe Budden
You got it. I wouldn't drain y'all out. You got it.
Flip
I get what you're saying.
Malcolm
I put hope. I mean, I agree with y'all on the kids in the future. But I also, like, I think part of why I was activist and part of why I do the work I do is cause I actually believe the world can be better than we found it against all evidence to the contrary. Cause the world looks like it's gonna be fucked up and it's only gonna get worse. But I've seen like struggles get won. I mean, just in like the last 10 years, like, or last 20 years. You see marriage equality, people thought that would never happen. It could be something as simple as legalizing weed. Like, I remember when people said that could never happen. And now, like, you can buy weed everywhere. Like the world can be so different in 24 hours or 12 months or 20. So I always look to the victories and be like, we could change some other shit. Like we could. We could change so people get housing. We could change so people get healthcare. We could change so people aren't oppressed anymore. People get their land back. Like we could do shit if we organize. That's my hope. I don't always act on the hope. Sometimes I get caught up in the day to day just wanting to eat or hope my team makes the playoffs or hope that so. And so was, you know, I hope.
Melissa Ford
That Aaron Rodgers don't come to the Steelers. I got hope. I got hope, God damn it.
Malcolm
Yeah, that's a good hope. But like, there's other shit we can hope for. So like, that's what keeps me energized.
Flip
That's what keeps me hoping for it and working towards it is two different things. Would you say? Hell yeah.
Malcolm
Well, see, to me that's the difference between hoping for it.
Flip
If you hope that the world changed, but you work towards contributing to the world changing. Right, like out there. So we can give you that and salute you because you try to make you different. Sometimes you do the work. Yeah, a lot of us don't have the determination. Or not saying we don't have the determination, but a lot of us don't have the opportunities to help the world get changed. Or we don't know that we don't have the knowledge that you may have.
Malcolm
And the work fuels the hope. Like, the more you work, the more you be like, oh, this shit is winnable. Like, this is a winnable fight. It's a hard fight, but it's a winnable fight. That's why we say hope and not optimism. Optimism is just like, everything's gonna be all right. It'll just work out. Hope is against the odds, and you gotta be engaged in that shit, and you gotta actually know. So it's fucked up. The odds are against me, but I can still win.
Flip
Real quick. The mood that Joe described earlier, I've gotten into that mood just looking at shit like, man, what the fuck?
Ish
I wouldn't necessarily say that you're depressed.
Flip
Hold on, wait.
Ish
Oh, sorry.
Flip
Go ahead. Yeah, I've gotten into that mood, like, looking at shit like, you know, what else should you do? No, no, no. That's my girl. I look at shit in society, look at. Just think about the shit that my children have to go through, and just think about just a lot of shit that he's saying I could relate to. But my work and my determination snaps me out of that. Like, if I sit in it, it fucks me up. So I can relate to what does this have to.
Malcolm
Does it distract you from it?
Flip
It's a distraction because I don't want to. Because then, same thing with thinking that, damn, I'm not gonna be here one day. That still fucks me up, nigga. What if something happened to one of my kids? Like, all this? They had to take the train. What if something happened to them? Like, look, you can't even go outside and be free. Or you can't express yourself without being judged, maimed, or even attacked outside. Like, these things happen. I know how I'm gonna protect myself. I know the lengths I'm gonna go. But when it's other people, when you watch other people, like when he said he watches his brothers and he got emotional. The same thing with my daughter. My daughter, sweet 16 coming up. I started to shed a tear. I look at all the old pictures in my phone of my children, I start to cry. Same thing with J.R. like, yo, pops, I'm not gonna be here. I'm going to go film for what's my man? People's names from Sugar Hill. I'm gonna go fill stuff for Juels. And I'm gonna film a cooking show to watch JR Go on his own. Makes me look like, damn.
Malcolm
Like I gotta pay somebody for labor now.
Flip
No, no, no. Cause I pay him a lot of money. But what I'm saying is that I do understand those sentiments, and I share it with Joe. I just have to trick myself and get out of it. I can't sit in it too long. Cause I lay in the bed. It's been times when I was younger, 19, 20, and my mom said this. I lay in the house for months, just in the crib in the dark. I take a shower in the dark. I laid in the dark, and I had to snap out of it once. My back is against the wall. I have to get to it.
Ish
I feel like what you're describing now in present terms is more melancholy and nostalgia. Like, kind of like a blend of the two, especially the nostalgic part.
Flip
What does that mean? When I can't let go the past, man. Like, that's just something that's been bothering me.
Parks
Nostalgia To a degree, yeah.
Flip
Like when you can't let it go when you rent. I could have did this differently, or I wish I would have did that differently. Or I could have put the same.
Ish
That's regret. That's just regret.
Flip
Or mixing the two. Cause I don't regret nothing.
Melissa Ford
But if you sitting there saying, damn, I could have did that differently. And you harbor on it.
Malcolm
That's the regret.
Melissa Ford
That is regret.
Malcolm
But the nostalgia part is sometimes thinking the past was better than it was. Like, really remembering. Like, oh, back then, everything was fine. Everything probably wasn't fine.
Melissa Ford
Just remember good times about back then, right?
Parks
You look through rosy colored glasses about.
Ish
The past, and this is around the age that nostalgia really kind of, like, starts to set in.
Malcolm
Oh, hell, yeah.
Ish
Like, really starts to set in.
Parks
So I try to live in the now. Too much hope or depression for the future.
Flip
All y'all.
Melissa Ford
Because we got rolly beats.
Joe Budden
All y'all wake up every morning with the hope that you'll make more money. Is that true or false? True or.
Malcolm
Yeah, true.
Joe Budden
Yeah, that's true. Yeah, but, like, how much more?
Malcolm
More for me, it's an expectation.
Joe Budden
Or, like, is there or is the day creeping up where you look at it and be like, you know what?
Flip
Well, I'm determined to go get it. Nah, I'm determined to go get it.
Melissa Ford
Especially, like, in my 30s.
Joe Budden
It's so easy in humanity. And now it's like, nah, I don't think so. I think this is it.
Parks
It's easy with the news. Especially as much news as you watch to that Dateline.
Ish
And no, worst of us. That's not the depressing part. That's not it. Because that to. I don't know if I'm word.
Joe Budden
I didn't get none of these. I got these thoughts from the new Equalizer commercial.
Ish
Right? Okay.
Joe Budden
Because one day you may have had hope that Queen Latifah could do this thing. And then you see the trailer.
Melissa Ford
Well, see, that's your fault.
Joe Budden
She. Well, Big Jersey watch Victor ish legend. Watch yourself Flavor you. It's not just music.
Melissa Ford
It ain't either.
Joe Budden
It ain't just music. Go ahead, boogie down.
Parks
Production throw you right, right.
Joe Budden
Say something wrong about Flavor Unit Jersey?
Melissa Ford
Nope.
Joe Budden
All right, but go ahead.
Ish
No, I was just going to say like the Dateline stuff is more outlier stuff. You know what I'm saying? Whereas the news, like that's just the barrage of bad news and catastrophic news. Every day we've got like breaking news and just like, oh God, what the fuck else is gonna happen? Like we're all being kind of like worn down.
Melissa Ford
Do you believe that we kind of responsible for what we consume?
Ish
Yes, a thousand percent.
Melissa Ford
So it's like if your outlook, if you're watching the news, you watch the news more than my grandmother. Like you watch a lot of news, it's what, 85, 90% negativity on the news? Almost 100, you know what I'm saying?
Joe Budden
So focus on the news. In that conversation would be narrow minded or looking at things in a vacuum.
Melissa Ford
No, but I'm just saying take the.
Joe Budden
News out of it. We end this thing and we were born, Our parents fucked one night, got it done. Now we're here. This is the state of things out here. Y'all have 40 years left, man. They have nothing to do with the news, what we consume. Just being here in its current state ain't the best.
Parks
Ain't the worst.
Melissa Ford
It ain't the worst either though.
Joe Budden
I didn't say it's the worst.
Melissa Ford
So it's better than it's been years ago. And that's why I put the news in there. Because if you're consuming and you're getting all the negativity, all the negative reports, you'll think it's much, much worse than it is. It's bad, be clear. But it ain't. It's been bad. It's been worse years ago.
Joe Budden
What year?
Parks
Most of the Years?
Flip
Yeah.
Melissa Ford
For the most part, it's been. Bro, you. You say all the time you wish you was in the 60s, 70s. If you really think about it, you really think you wanted to be around the 60s and 70s? Like, it was worse.
Joe Budden
I had to kill Bobby. Woman. Womack. Bobby Womack would have been dead. Dead.
Melissa Ford
I ain't gonna hold you.
Joe Budden
That's the question.
Melissa Ford
I ain't gonna hold you.
Joe Budden
Sam Cooke didn't have brothers.
Melissa Ford
Somebody supposed to.
Joe Budden
Sam Cooke didn't have older cousins or somebody. I think about that a lot.
Melissa Ford
That was that. That might be top three.
Joe Budden
Bobby Womack should have been dead in front of the town, hung on top of the telephone like sneakers.
Malcolm
Sometime when you do enough trash on your own, you can't worry that much about what somebody else doing.
Melissa Ford
Yeah, but that's crazy as hell.
Joe Budden
Nah, wait, wait, wait, wait. Yeah, stop.
Malcolm
Nah.
Melissa Ford
Fast.
Malcolm
Read Aretha Franklin's biography. That's all I'm gonna say.
Joe Budden
What Sam Cooke did to Aretha Franklin.
Flip
I'm saying what he did, bro.
Malcolm
Tell us. I'll just say Sam Cooke. And it wasn't just him. It was all the first of the R B circuit and the gospel circuit were two of the freakiest places ever. Like, the gospel circuit was like. They was orgies and all kinds of shit, right?
Melissa Ford
I mean, that's kind of true. About the gospel circle.
Ish
I read this book.
Malcolm
Yeah, it's read. Read David Ritz's book on a reading. That's even better. That's the one that has all the good shit in it. I'll send you the link. But Areth Frank had Baby Xuf. Not by Sam Quick, but by somebody else. But Sam was getting down with a lot of R and B singers when they were 13, 14, 15 years old. So that's part of why he ain't noticed what was going on in his own household. Oh, yeah? I don't know about that. Don't do that.
Melissa Ford
Hey, Joe, I'm with you. Bobby was supposed to have been.
Joe Budden
Yeah, like Mark saying the right thing again. Bobby Womack would have been dead no matter what.
Melissa Ford
I don't care.
Malcolm
What the fuck.
Joe Budden
What the fuck is you talking about? Whatever he did, don't nobody deserve for you to wear their clothes. Wear their clothes to the funeral. Take my wife and then fuck my daughter.
Malcolm
It's a lot.
Parks
It's a lot.
Malcolm
They was nasty back then, man. And will make songs about it. That's the ill point part. Remember Roberta Flack song Jesse? You know it's for Jesse Jackson.
Joe Budden
No, no, I did not.
Malcolm
Jesse Come home this bed is. Yeah.
Melissa Ford
Hey, fair. Hold on.
Flip
Get the.
Malcolm
Yo, Mark, let me hold, hold.
Melissa Ford
Give me two seconds.
Ish
Play that as your sleeper, please.
Malcolm
Brother Flack told me that.
Melissa Ford
Give me.
Joe Budden
Yeah, you read a lot of celeb books.
Parks
Mark is ill.
Ish
He knows Roberta too.
Malcolm
He went to all if that was true I read it. Then I asked if it was true I can I don't mind saying since she's passed away.
Melissa Ford
Rest in peace Y. I'm reading the lyrics my son.
Ish
It is read.
Melissa Ford
Read the Jesse, come home. There's a hole in the bed where we slept now it's growing cold Jesse, your face in a place where we lay by the hearth all apart it hangs on my heart Face in a place hey Jesse, it's lonely Come home.
Parks
Jesse was putting it.
Melissa Ford
Jesse was beating break some blank he was getting.
Flip
He was getting away from that dog.
Malcolm
But to your point, you know who one of Jesse's background singers was in the 70s? I mean who Robert's background singers was in the 70s and 80s? One of Jesse's daughters. Same thing. It's a lot of cross pollination. Yeah, cross pollin.
Melissa Ford
That's a good word.
Malcolm
That's.
Parks
Yeah, that's a nice way to put it.
Flip
I mean this is before Dr. King died or after.
Malcolm
Is it all after anything? Anything you know about Jesse Jackson is probably after cuz King died in 68, this was 70. Whatever.
Joe Budden
Sure.
Flip
Just putting things together in my head, just making sense. He got off on that, on that Dr. King shit. He got up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He stepped this shit up. He got Dr. King out the way now he became the figure.
Malcolm
So Jesse was doing etch his name out, put Jesse on top.
Flip
Yo, like you never think about that Mark, he was dead, so you gotta. Mark, I know you got some theories on that.
Ish
Look, I've definitely thought about that.
Flip
Hopefully down the line you can share it with me when he pass away or something cuz he just, he just be around. Nobody say nothing to that son. Who the is he?
Melissa Ford
Yo?
Malcolm
I me, he's. He's a important guy.
Flip
Shout out to Jesse Jackson.
Malcolm
Shout out to my hero, Jesse Jackson.
Joe Budden
Wait, never mind, never mind. He ain't tricking me. No, they ain't tricking me.
Melissa Ford
He on your list.
Malcolm
Oh, but that's different, that's personal.
Melissa Ford
Oh, okay.
Flip
You know him personally?
Malcolm
Yeah, Jesse was a mentor. The first time went to Africa was with Jesse Jackson. He took me to Africa.
Flip
So you would, if you, if you knew anything, you wouldn't kick us back in right now. Yeah, no, I respect that.
Malcolm
I fall back. But there's nothing to know because he's been perfect. Except for the public scandals.
Flip
Oh.
Malcolm
Yep.
Joe Budden
Hopefully we don't get the Justine island report to come out. Mark might have been. Mark might have been on.
Melissa Ford
He was a plus one.
Flip
He might have been on Jesse's boat.
Malcolm
Nigga, no boats, no islands, nothing. I'm good.
Joe Budden
Did you go to Million Man March?
Malcolm
No, I didn't. I wish I did, but I didn't.
Ish
Why didn't you?
Malcolm
It was a couple reasons. Part of it was. It was. It was in middle of. We weren't allowed to go. Like, it was basketball season. We weren't allowed to go. And also it was. I had some. Had some ideological issues with it. You know what I mean? At the time. But I wish I had gone now. In retrospect, I wish I had gone back then.
Joe Budden
You wasn't with it.
Malcolm
I still had the same. The issues I have then, I have now. But I would have gone just to be part of history.
Joe Budden
Okay, so you still ain't with it.
Malcolm
A million people marching against, like, marches is supposed to be. Marches is supposed to be a thing, right? The march on Washington was. The March on Washington. Four jobs and freedom. You know what I'm saying? In 63. Like, you march and protest a system. To me, you march against your oppressor. You march against a power structure. I didn't like the idea of a million black men getting together to march against themselves. For me, I thought that they were. I would have marched for structural things. I would have marched for systemic things. I would have been fighting for a power. I understood Farrakhan's argument, and I don't think he's wrong. I just would have. I would have organized the march differently.
Flip
Be careful.
Malcolm
No, I've expressed that to him directly. And no, it's not flat.
Flip
Look at my.
Joe Budden
Make sure.
Melissa Ford
Make sure you understand right.
Joe Budden
Very impressive.
Malcolm
Make sure that you clear.
Flip
Yeah. Shout out to Falcon.
Malcolm
Shout out to everybody who was a part of the Million Man March, you know, brother Mark.
Joe Budden
Oh, God. So you would have organized it differently, would you say?
Malcolm
Yeah, yeah, Organized differently. But I love the idea of us coming together in a spirit of love and tradition. I mean, to get a million people, a million plus on that mall was amazing.
Flip
That's nice.
Joe Budden
For real.
Malcolm
It was a beautiful sight.
Joe Budden
Holy shit. I hate y'all. We can't never be serious. Even though this has been a pretty serious man. This has been a piss boy job. It being serious, cuz.
Flip
You get serious and hop right out of it.
Melissa Ford
Let me Depress y'all.
Flip
You double Dutch. With seriousness.
Malcolm
Do you have any hope, guys? And then we like, no. And he's like, this is too depressing.
Joe Budden
Yeah.
Flip
Then you crack Jo. Yeah, My polish.
Joe Budden
Y'all get carried away with the hopeless, Like.
Flip
I'm just asking.
Joe Budden
Jesus. Where's the therapist for the crew when you need it? Jesus. Lighten up. Pricks.
Melissa Ford
Hey, you a Knicks fan? Tell me about what's going on with Tracy Morgan.
Joe Budden
Man.
Parks
He had that surf and turf.
Melissa Ford
You eat the Garden Glizzy.
Malcolm
Yeah, that corned beef and.
Parks
Corned beef and cabbage.
Joe Budden
Yeah.
Parks
We'll save Patty's day.
Flip
That threw up on the side of the court. Come on, man.
Joe Budden
What on the side of court? Right there. Right there. His theaters right in the front by the table. Tracy Morgan has replied to that already. He says it was food poisoning. Is the reason that he was throwing up courtside at the Nick game.
Ish
That's unfortunate.
Joe Budden
And it's a spooky thing because we know Tracy to have had health issues in the past. So we don't look at it like somebody just throwing up like a regular person throwing up. So he says he's all right. Thank God he's all right. I know. He's a staple at these Knicks games. We see him all the time.
Parks
Yeah. Talk to you.
Melissa Ford
He made jokes off of that. He was like, yeah, they want to know when I threw up on the court.
Parks
So that's a bad place to get sick.
Ish
Yeah.
Malcolm
That's the most embarrassing thing that could probably happen, other than actually on yourself.
Joe Budden
It's a great place to get sick, actually.
Ish
Why is it a great place there?
Joe Budden
Physicians on deck.
Parks
Oh, okay.
Ish
I mean, like, maybe not courtside.
Joe Budden
Mar Hamlin might. Might have gone a different way if he were at L Boil.
Melissa Ford
You're not wrong. He might not have got the chest either, though. But. But I get it, though. I get it. I get it. It's crazy.
Malcolm
I'd be. Would you be humiliated from that?
Joe Budden
From what? Throwing up.
Melissa Ford
Throwing up. Like that. Sam was projecting. Throwing up. That was, like, dead in that video.
Parks
Yes. That shit looks like a cartoon.
Malcolm
I'd be. Would you be a marriage male?
Ish
Yeah. I'm thinking to myself right now, every time I've thrown up, I'm like, I know it's coming. So I would have ran. Not to say that this wasn't like.
Melissa Ford
He did it right. Right there. Yeah.
Malcolm
If he ran, it was worse.
Flip
I'm just. Forget it.
Ish
What.
Flip
What I was about. I was about to make a joke saying, forcing yourself to throw up and actually Throwing up is different. Going to the bathroom to get the hot dog you just ate out, cuz. I remember that trick. I seen a lot of girls do it.
Malcolm
He was going to make that trick.
Flip
Yeah, I was going to, but I stopped.
Malcolm
Good for you, cuz.
Flip
She not. Cuz she not playing. She not playing. I got to throw up.
Malcolm
I just.
Flip
I don't want to take the balls that big.
Joe Budden
Don't hit me, nigga.
Melissa Ford
No. Get away. What is wrong with you?
Joe Budden
Are you saying Mel was doing that shout out?
Flip
Mel. Mel, have you ever forced yourself to throw before in life? Exactly, Mel.
Ish
I thought when I was like 11 or 12.
Flip
Not that we talking about as an adult.
Ish
No. Then, no, no, Mel, stop. Why would I make myself throw?
Flip
Do you not know a lot of women, Women that. Do you not know a lot of women that make themselves throw?
Ish
You're talking about bulimia.
Joe Budden
See here.
Melissa Ford
Go.
Flip
Do you not know anybody?
Melissa Ford
Get out of there. Get out of there.
Ish
No, I personally do not know bulimix. I personally do not know bulimix, but it's something that people hide, so maybe I do, and I just don't know. And they told me you hit it. I am not bulimic.
Flip
You CL that toilet in. And then he told you not to go. He didn't throw it up.
Joe Budden
Yo, Mel, Mel made a knock at the fuck up.
Ish
I'm so glad I never threw up here.
Flip
Mel, he mashing. All of a sudden, he. Come on, Daisy. I feel relaxed. Joe said, can you please stop using that bathroom? There was not a smell in sight. So what the fuck were you doing?
Joe Budden
Yo, yo, y'all are shout out to man with you.
Flip
Man, that is real. I heard people throw up in the bathroom.
Joe Budden
Teenager.
Malcolm
You've done it.
Flip
I've done it, too. But wait.
Melissa Ford
No to go finish drinking some more.
Joe Budden
Oh, I.
Parks
The boot rally.
Flip
I like.
Joe Budden
Wait, Freeze did it, too.
Flip
I made here. I'm talking about I have too much.
Melissa Ford
To drink and had to throw up so I can get back to drinking.
Flip
You're a drunkie. Helmet. Helmet. The drunk helmet.
Parks
Once I throw up, I'm not drinking no more.
Melissa Ford
Oh, no, that part for me.
Joe Budden
Could y'all just shut up for a second? So gain understanding.
Flip
Come on.
Melissa Ford
Come on, Joe. Let me hear it.
Parks
He's in his white boy bag.
Joe Budden
You did that before? Like, stuck your finger in your mouth to throw up?
Melissa Ford
No, not stick my finger in my mouth. I know I got to throw up.
Parks
Like.
Melissa Ford
All right. You know what? I'm feeling sick. I can't drink no water.
Ish
Just look at the light.
Joe Budden
What was your little throw up move? You just.
Flip
I'm like.
Melissa Ford
I'm feeling it.
Joe Budden
Feeling I got to go in the bathroom.
Melissa Ford
Stowed up.
Joe Budden
Feeling yucky inside.
Melissa Ford
No, really.
Parks
Do you at least get a little shot of peppermint schnapps or something?
Melissa Ford
I've definitely done that though. You're right back to partying.
Malcolm
But did you actually.
Flip
You.
Malcolm
So you actually make yourself throw up?
Melissa Ford
Nah, I didn't like.
Joe Budden
No, it's like when you got to make the come out right. You got what?
Parks
Squeeze, push.
Joe Budden
What? Put your finger up there for a little bit.
Melissa Ford
You and your son be doing this your business.
Flip
You got to put your foot up. You got to prop your foot up.
Ish
That with the squatty potty.
Flip
Squatty potty.
Malcolm
Do that again.
Flip
The squatty potty helps.
Parks
Oh, careful. This one.
Joe Budden
We definitely moving on. We moving on. It's over. Holy.
Melissa Ford
Y'all are sick.
Flip
Bulimic.
Melissa Ford
I need problems. I got problems.
Joe Budden
That's fire though. To get the amnesia after the bulimia. Like just forget it. Come on. I got a sleeper.
Malcolm
I don't care.
Joe Budden
My shit is queued up already.
Flip
Go ahead.
Joe Budden
I don't give a fuck what y'all talking about. I'm done.
Malcolm
You don't got a show, huh?
Flip
You ain't got a fun of the show.
Joe Budden
Look at you. Nigga.
Flip
I'm talking about.
Joe Budden
Yo, the pay is locked. You can stop trying to do a better job. It's over the. All right, let's see. Let's see if there's Joe.
Flip
Bu. Queen Flint.
Joe Budden
Not no Joe, but me and Mel in here.
Flip
You think you'll do a Joe Bundeli? Without Mel?
Joe Budden
Yes. Without you. No. Don't drop a melon. Ain't you.
Flip
So she gonna be down.
Joe Budden
Flip.
Melissa Ford
Flip me right in here.
Flip
If I know the time. I'm lit. Corey.
Joe Budden
Let me.
Melissa Ford
No, it's live. It's live. You know what's happening.
Flip
All the live.
Joe Budden
I'm in. I know there's no new parties. Yo. We good.
Flip
Okay. Yeah.
Melissa Ford
Yo, if you open your patreon and see Joe sitting here online.
Malcolm
I be he drive right the over here.
Flip
I swear to God, I. I'm right around the corner.
Joe Budden
Yo.
Flip
He was like. Yo, because what are you gonna tell me on camera? Leave. You gotta leave. Then he's up the production.
Joe Budden
Let me just. Let me sit down really quick to make sure there's nothing else that has to get.
Melissa Ford
Oh, that would be hilarious.
Joe Budden
Yo. Sorry if we made any.
Flip
You. We didn't mean to do that.
Joe Budden
If we made you throw up or yourself. Anything.
Melissa Ford
Any bulimics out there? Our bad.
Joe Budden
Yeah. We made you call up your uncle and see if that was really your uncle. And we apologize. All right, let's see. Beat up rag. Yay, Tweez, Tracy Morgan, LeBron at 40. Make it make sense? No. Not getting me.
Melissa Ford
No.
Joe Budden
It's right there, though. No, but it's right.
Melissa Ford
No, he not.
Joe Budden
Not.
Melissa Ford
No, he not nice. I don't care. I don't care. Black excellence. No, he not.
Joe Budden
Mark.
Melissa Ford
No, we not.
Joe Budden
All right, but you do know. No, no, we are. I ain't saying it, but it is right there. Like. And I got a brain.
Melissa Ford
Nope.
Flip
Why he looks so good at. I don't understand.
Joe Budden
And then there's that company in Miami that nope. Are so dumb. Anyway.
Melissa Ford
Nope.
Joe Budden
What else I got here? Hype for snow. Snowfall. Spin off. They're talking about that snowfall spin off real quick.
Melissa Ford
Real quick. Yes, yes, yes, yes. I'm here. What else is here?
Joe Budden
That sexy Red Bruno Bruno song sure went away fast.
Parks
Real quick.
Joe Budden
Thank God. Never heard from that one again. I would like to hear before we go from Mark and Mel about this Jonathan Majors. Did he aggress? Yo, the aggressed leaked call where he was. Is it real? Is it not? Rolling Stone put this out. Hey, I'm still going to see that movie next week.
Ish
Magazine Dreams.
Joe Budden
Yeah.
Ish
Yeah.
Malcolm
Rolling Stone is usually pretty credible at vetting sources. That's what I'll say. And there's the audio.
Ish
Usually.
Malcolm
Usually. And I have no. You know, I don't. I don't know any. I don't have any reason to think it's not real. But, you know, who knows? She. They released it. And he's on audio acknowledging that he aggressed. That's the language he used. His former girlfriend. And she said you. She named, like, three things he did. Like, you grabbed me, you choked me. It's like all these things. And he was like.
Joe Budden
That was all covered under aggress, which.
Malcolm
Is a little bit of a snarky take when you're apologizing for being violent to somebody. And for a lot of people, that was not a smoking. Yeah. But confirmation of what he'd been accused of. And a lot of people had been running for him, saying, he didn't do anything, he's innocent, he's being framed. And he sort of understated what he did. And this audio kind of changes that. The timing of it is interesting to me. Yeah.
Joe Budden
That's what I'm saying.
Malcolm
The why of it is interesting because.
Ish
Of the movie that he's and his career is kind of being revised.
Malcolm
Yeah, Right. So I wonder if somebody said, look, I have this trump card and I'm gonna wait until he's revived again to do it. Because if you dump that all at once, he can then recover from it.
Ish
Yeah, I agree with you. Who's rumored to have anonymously just put.
Malcolm
Out there that part. I don't know. I didn't see a source or, like, an allegation of a source. So I don't know. But I'm genuinely curious about the timing of it. But regardless of the timing of it, if he did it, people have a right to play that car whenever they want. So I'm not. I'm not defending it. But it is interesting to think about the strategic. The strategic nature of maybe the release. There's some people in Hollywood who don't want Jonathan Majors to win. Whether you agree with him or not, it's been very clear. I've heard this on camera, and I've heard this behind the scenes. There are people who feel very strongly about him, honestly, in ways that they don't about other actors or producers who have done similar things or worse things. So I'm curious to know the why of that's why. He's black. I don't think it's just him being black. I mean, that's part of it. But I know even black people who have been able to recover from.
Ish
So do you think that it's part of the rumor that he was extraordinarily difficult to work with? Like, that was a pervasive, pervasive, pervasive rumor. But I'm always, you know, kind of, like, skeptical about that. Oh, difficulty to work with kind of thing. Because there's other factors that play into it as to why somebody might want to carry on with that narrative.
Malcolm
And I've seen both. I've seen people who just walk with dignity and have, like, a commitment to what they want.
Ish
And they. And people process that as audacity.
Malcolm
Right. But I've also worked with assholes. I mean, I could tell you. I mean, just a good example of VH1. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Worked with. Nobody appears like that, honestly. I mean, most everybody here is great, you know, and those who aren't guys still working on them. It's really, like, I was thinking about, like, VH1, where, like, when I. When I would work particularly, like, like, certain, like, reality shows where I could see a lot of the cast was dope and some people who, on camera were called behind on the camera, called hard to work with behind scenes. They really were hard to work with. You can always tell by who the camera people fuck with.
Ish
True.
Malcolm
Like, when the camera people be like, yo, fuck him.
Ish
Yeah, they get the worst answer.
Malcolm
That's always a very good. I always, always believe them because that's who they. Who will get the brunt of the bad behavior. And so I don't know if Jonathan Majors is good to work with, easy to work with, or hard to work with, but that narrative is probably connected to somebody feeling strongly about him, and that could play into this. So I don't know. But I do know that this timing isn't good for Jonathan Majors.
Ish
But, I mean, like, we went through the entire, you know, trial process, and he was found guilty, like, on a couple of the charges. So, like, related to being the aggressor. So it's kind of like what it's.
Malcolm
All about, reminding the public of why they shouldn't like you.
Ish
Yeah. Well, then.
Malcolm
So that you don't get the full.
Ish
Timing, and the timing is suspicious based on the fact that this movie Machine Dreams was everybody. It was like, a really big, big deal at Sundance, like, a couple of years ago, and then everybody, like, Sony dropped it, and it was like, okay, it's never gonna fucking come out. And now he's had, like, this resurgence, and they're like, okay, we're gonna put the movie out. And now here we are again discussing.
Malcolm
We'll see what happens. The good thing is if the public does not care care, then it's over. He's able to finally move on. And I have this thing hanging behind it because he may have known that audio was there the whole time and be constantly afraid of when it's gonna get released. And I'm not trying to cape for Jonathan Majors again. Whatever he did, he should have accountability.
Joe Budden
That's the scariest part about all of it, is that the public could not care about a domestic violence incident against women.
Malcolm
Right, Exactly. And that's actually the problem. He should be held accountable. He should. Whatever. But it seems to me he has been held accountable.
Joe Budden
Yeah, when y'all do that. What's wrong with y'all?
Melissa Ford
Us?
Flip
Why you being sarcastic?
Joe Budden
I'm not. That's the scariest part, is that the public could potentially not care about something like that. So it is our job to keep it always at the forefront of things.
Flip
Yo, listen, Jonathan Major shit, man.
Malcolm
I see the group.
Flip
It's difficult, you know. Listen, let that nigga get back.
Melissa Ford
What?
Flip
He needs to get back back, man. What he was charged with. Is unintentional. What was it again?
Parks
M like willfully obtuse.
Joe Budden
Mel ain't helping you. It's still up. She ain't with you this episode.
Flip
She with me.
Joe Budden
She that made was too beyond the limit.
Flip
No, but that was to you. But I'm a ch.
Joe Budden
You didn't read it like that.
Malcolm
It doesn't matter who was two. It's still inappropriate.
Flip
We play inappropriate jokes. Yeah, but.
Malcolm
But if somebody. If somebody lost a parent and had to deal with that. That very thing, I mean, you could see how that would be a trigger point.
Flip
Understood. But I'm not thinking in real time about math.
Malcolm
That's what makes it inconsiderate. I am inconsiderate.
Flip
I am an inconsiderate person.
Malcolm
Yeah, but that's why somebody.
Flip
And what about you?
Ish
Okay, let's. Let's see.
Flip
No, hold on. Let's get that in. What about you?
Malcolm
Yeah, I'm sure I am too. I would apologize too, but I would understand why somebody would be tight with me.
Flip
Yeah, but you still do inconsiderate shit. You inconsiderate to your coworkers by far.
Malcolm
Damn.
Flip
Yeah, but that's not right. So you should understand it and extend grace like flip ain't mean that. Especially if I say it's my fault.
Malcolm
Yeah, I thought that was a great apology.
Flip
And I didn't double down on it. Cause obviously I know it's sensitive.
Malcolm
And I thought that was a great apology, man.
Parks
One of the best I ever heard.
Malcolm
Seriously.
Joe Budden
It was.
Flip
And you guys, it was sincere.
Melissa Ford
It was from the heart.
Malcolm
It was beautiful.
Joe Budden
It's true.
Melissa Ford
Accepted accountability.
Malcolm
That was wonderful.
Melissa Ford
You just messed up by saying if, but you know.
Flip
Yeah, if was. If we all be drunk, man.
Malcolm
That was good. Wow.
Joe Budden
Way to close it down, man.
Malcolm
What a fuck.
Melissa Ford
Come on.
Joe Budden
What a five. What a pause, you guys.
Parks
That's what I'm talking about. And a high note.
Joe Budden
Okay. Holy sleepers. This gotta suck for Michael B. Jordan. He was just getting cool with him again.
Malcolm
He gotta take down the pictures again.
Joe Budden
Just like. Just like. All right, I will work.
Melissa Ford
All right, we back.
Joe Budden
I will work. Graham. Soon. Soon.
Melissa Ford
More Rollis.
Joe Budden
Don't drop that. Oh. Ah.
Melissa Ford
Change my number again.
Malcolm
Right?
Joe Budden
If I'm telling you that I aggressed you don't highlight. Highlight. What is.
Ish
What the aggressive?
Malcolm
Yeah.
Joe Budden
That was crazy.
Malcolm
I thought she was right. You gotta. You gotta do that.
Flip
When did he have this conversation with her? Right after the situation.
Joe Budden
I don't.
Malcolm
I don't have the. It was. It was soon after, but I don't have the exact. Exact date or timetable. Like how far after. But yeah, I mean. Cause sometimes saying I aggress allows you to gloss over what you actually did.
Flip
Got it.
Ish
Cause language matters. Yeah, so. And he's used those words specifically.
Joe Budden
And behavior is real important in those incidents. Seriously, Like.
Parks
Yeah.
Joe Budden
Yeah.
Parks
True.
Joe Budden
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. All right. I'm done. And I feel better.
Malcolm
That's good. That's a really bad.
Parks
That's important.
Joe Budden
Yeah, that's important. You guys happy?
Parks
We could bring a little joy.
Joe Budden
You guys did it. Thank you.
Parks
If nothing else, we made Joe's day better.
Melissa Ford
That's right.
Joe Budden
That's a fact.
Melissa Ford
Brain is different, bro.
Joe Budden
All right, I gotta sleep.
Parks
What had they been sleeping on?
Joe Budden
Joe and I have not left the Friday album. Like I told y'all, I wasn't leaving a Friday album. So I'm playing a yet another. Hey, that's Fire Friday Sleeper. And I don't care what y'all have.
Malcolm
To say about it. That's a great album.
Joe Budden
It really is. So this record is called Desert.
Melissa Ford
I lived about a thousand lives on.
Flip
My own.
Malcolm
Been waiting on a rain.
Melissa Ford
To come I was told that I would see signs on the way home But I can't see the road I wish I knew that I would be fighting for the life that I chose.
Joe Budden
Now I'm in the middle of the desert and no one.
Flip
I've been searching.
Joe Budden
For some water for days I swear.
Melissa Ford
Oh, I'm in the middle of the desert oh, I'm lost Trying to find.
Joe Budden
A way back Cool.
Melissa Ford
Closing in so dried in a desert sand I done seen them bullets turn Take out a better man so I know they got no mercy upon me Got to know when I should hold, I'm afforded Can't stay here it don't feel like home no love outside make.
Malcolm
A heart turn cold the things I've seen make a blind man lose hope.
Joe Budden
So I'm stranded here on a slowly road.
Flip
Now I'm in the middle of.
Joe Budden
The desert and nowhere.
Melissa Ford
For days I swear oh, I mean.
Joe Budden
Trying to find a way back in.
Melissa Ford
Some now.
Joe Budden
Brand new music from friend of the show Friday. That record is called Dessert. Dessert Desert. Off his brand new album, available in your phone and on DSPS right this very second. Shout out to Friday.
Parks
That was super fun.
Melissa Ford
That was fire.
Parks
That's a fire.
Joe Budden
He's got heat on there, man.
Parks
Best I've heard so far from there for me, besides the meek verse.
Malcolm
Except the meat, right?
Melissa Ford
Yeah, the verse.
Parks
So that's it.
Melissa Ford
I'm going go to far Rock. This is King Streets cut the stove on hey Twix mom's getting pay the.
Joe Budden
Bills.
Melissa Ford
Used to have that work up in the trap I was heavy there looking like LeBron before he play his potter everywhere I was there with Brody blue trail made me shed a tear he in the cell listening to my music on the second tier you never been in drug raids when a cop is war wait you out your sleep hand cuff you what your box can't be my dog if I second guess beside you all stepping with my pride is on that you know I got it all broke cause they ain't paying attention we could have got it as a team but they wouldn't listen everybody want to be Mike but that ain't the vision pimping got six rings too play a position I know real that's broke in some lanes of money should be tricky like that you know the game is funny when they toll on my I took a toll on a one time for mama love she never.
Flip
Out of here mom's getting pay the.
Joe Budden
Bills had to cut the stove on.
Malcolm
Them ain't riding with you then get.
Flip
Your roll on you can't point to a that I told on I'm still on the block this was so long.
Malcolm
And I've been in this for so long your music what I put my.
Flip
Soul on and I've been in this for so long I'm still on the.
Melissa Ford
Block couldn't pay the bills I was plucking up that portable stove I ate with it when I ran into that fork in a row Kobe test I had the they had to put up their nose and all the nights that we was cold and had to cut on the stove to heat up the crib nothing used to be in the fridge wishing them crackers let my dogs go free on the heading out of town the back to work up in the motel whole hood know who caught the body but they won't tell to my homies that the police putting them bodies on head shot to stop a clock you know what time y'all I can full of love just leave I threw them thoughties from party in Miami in the boundary on looking like I got a switch in it to turn my diamonds on first one to reach for anything that's who we slide on I'm rapping like the ring dude that's cuz it is every first of the month the rent off is one this so I gotta get it mom's getting.
Flip
Pay the bills had to cut the stove on them ain't riding with you then get your Roll on.
Malcolm
You can't point to the that I.
Flip
Told on I'm still on the block. This was so long and I been.
Melissa Ford
In this this for so long.
Flip
The music what I put my so long.
Malcolm
It'S such a good drop.
Melissa Ford
That was cut the stove on by King Streets. That's off of his project. Sacrificed a lot to get here too. In your phones, DSPs, all that good, good stuff.
Flip
All right.
Parks
I'm going to Brooklyn. St. Patrick's Day also means Sean Price birthday. This is figure 4. Rest in Peace Sean Price.
Joe Budden
Rest in peace.
Melissa Ford
Botswana, small town little league player Pop Warner rock corners with hot blocks that's drug infested supply supply is my money say thug invested no disrespect to duck down records after this go around a look for the exit piece. Sincerely, Pyrex Pot Sean Cookie cut it and spit it on all right.com the vet earner of stripes to skin burner tears in my eyes when thinking the hex murder what up, hex? I don't parlay with the crew, I don't wallet here the new hardcore rapping Mary J Blige Records. That's right, the gar gonna snap. I'm waving the 5 reckless Sean Price, the best rapper in Brownsville. Don't know me by the time this song done, you clowns will. Clowns will hurt something.
Joe Budden
Know what I mean?
Melissa Ford
Out of here, grown man rap. I get my son to one of y'all young rappers up.
Joe Budden
Word to mother.
Melissa Ford
Out of here. What up, Eli? Ah, where was I? Oh, yes, Sean Carter is nice but Sean Price is the best. Sean gone. No Sean Dawn. Sean is a dawn. I don't wear Sean John army suit BlackBerry brandy is long johns matching cheese tims you separate weed stems, weed carrier, bulletproof Vesta glock and spray your jester left with Rockaway and Chester. Too old to rap, too young to whack ten fingers, two hands my the guns clap out I don't like no more eight figure dreams but the figure is four these are words from a doubt in there selling, cracking the peas disguising some housing gear I up somewhere down the line but I got my in order the crown is mine.
Parks
That'S figure four. Sean Price. Happy birthday and rest in peace to the absolute legend Big mouth war. What kind of eclectic damage do we have today?
Ish
I really like that track that you just played, by the way. Mine is called Obsessed Xandros and Limmy.
Parks
Okay.
Melissa Ford
To hide you can sleep.
Joe Budden
On.
Melissa Ford
Me but it's on your mind always.
Joe Budden
I'm in your feelings Coming down from.
Melissa Ford
The weekend no I always make you right yeah yeah Tell me that your.
Joe Budden
Mind make it worth my time yeah.
Melissa Ford
On to the need like you believe.
Joe Budden
Set my mind on fire like you.
Melissa Ford
Never felt this way so close that's another one. Cuz you're scared to get too close.
Joe Budden
You keep running until you show up.
Flip
On my door There's a time with.
Joe Budden
Me is a time and not alone.
Melissa Ford
Yeah I know you know that but.
Malcolm
You.
Melissa Ford
My can but I still hold.
Flip
You down Got a dance to hide.
Parks
That is Andros and limmy obsessed all.
Joe Budden
Right the sleep of king coming back soon. You keep trying to go crazy mark that was a slap buddy coming back.
Malcolm
So I'm going old school since it's the 30th anniversary of the Roots. Do you want more album? Okay, I'm coming with Silent Treatment regular version.
Parks
Hey regular version of remix.
Joe Budden
Hey this was my.
Malcolm
There you go.
Joe Budden
Can't you see what you mean to me.
Melissa Ford
Girl you know that you just stop giving me the smiling treatment baby can't you say what you mean to me? I wanna constantly but you keep neglecting me that you can be silent.
Malcolm
Girl.
Melissa Ford
You know that you to stop getting Yo I had a queen named Amina High five seven caramel complected body like heaven met her through the sister of of my man big Vince like some from out the flicks We've been in love ever since she called me her chocolate brother I call her my sugar sister New shorty could work it since before I ever kissed her I never dissed her painted my picture to hit but because sex she wasn't with she started flipping and like listen man I'm Queen Amina Amina's not no freaking that game is weakened keep trying to hit I could quit speaking to Rican fact you being blacked on don't get you closer I dig your butt won't bone your be quiet cause I'm so called supposed to most of them would but that could envy me that's not my flavor Go home and think about that maybe later on I paid ya I contemplated and then concluded she was bluffing steady pursuing school and getting nothing but.
Parks
The solid treatment.
Malcolm
Maybe one I'll page.
Melissa Ford
You.
Joe Budden
This a song where I was like oh he think it got albums.
Melissa Ford
Crazy frustration about my loving situation where patience was a virtue But I wasn't used to waiting I want some Marvin Gay healing Feeling this real inside I slip and slide My ride will keep you occupied I love to get with it like that but my baby's kitty cats Captain Lock love Boat is dock at the shore and what for LA for groupies on tour why won't my sugar call me no more? I mean my queen gets upset Rejecting the sexually neglect then singing I'm more sewer than not suffixing close minded it's like I'm blinded by the skinning I'm into women because of that this one's ending Communication temptation played the vandal freaking my brain My mind gripping the handle on physically scandalous acts yo, she knew what I wanted but she fronted.
Malcolm
Know.
Parks
About you Silent Treatment roots the song goes on with saxophone solos and all types of a classic and the remix.
Malcolm
That still feel good.
Joe Budden
Yeah, you know, that was great. That was great. A blast from the past.
Parks
Indeed, sir.
Joe Budden
All right. Good day, mates.
Melissa Ford
Yes, sir.
Joe Budden
Good day. Good times to those. That's still here. For those of y'all just tuning in, we appreciate you.
Flip
Hey, yo. Hey, yo.
Melissa Ford
When I walk into a room feel a slight breeze Stay a little while.
Flip
So they feel they might freeze Never.
Melissa Ford
Understood why they never like me Cause.
Flip
When I lock the door, you're still.
Joe Budden
Here by the time of this recording me we didn't depress you too much with our morbid talk.
Melissa Ford
Tickets to who knows.
Joe Budden
Keep us in your prayers Lord knows we need to be there until the.
Melissa Ford
Next time Previous plans they spawn.
Joe Budden
So long a mile a simple head now.
Melissa Ford
Was a fight in almost every event Putting up points my like y'all stay scar all my from the projects like one up from the projects like when I like and pass me a cup for that good we on some projects.
Joe Budden
Remember life is a series of moments and moments pass indeed. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Y'all hold it down. Yeah, he did, but Nori went crazy.
Melissa Ford
Yeah, but you know who.
Parks
Yeah, yeah.
Flip
Okay, okay.
Joe Budden
Make sure remember the baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel and the closed minded women want you to teach them things.
Flip
Set it off too.
Parks
Right now I'm thinking I'm leaving.
Joe Budden
Yeah, this is.
Malcolm
Like a 12.
Joe Budden
We going, man. Y'all hold it down until the next.
Melissa Ford
Time.
Joe Budden
And all that, Brother, get your wig pushed down. What's up? Anybody doing anything fun this week? Anything fun this week?
Melissa Ford
No.
Joe Budden
Work, work, work.
Malcolm
My wife out of town. I sent her up for a retreat. Little spa. Five days. So I'm rocking solo with. With me and the boy.
Joe Budden
Got it, got it, got it, got it. That sound good time, huh?
Melissa Ford
How you doing?
Malcolm
Life is good, man. Life is good.
Joe Budden
Sound like good times.
Malcolm
I got no complaints.
Joe Budden
Mel. What's up with you this week? Anything, anything, anything.
Malcolm
Just work, work, work, work, work.
Joe Budden
Hot. And be still waiting on that movie promo to drop.
Ish
Okay.
Flip
We don't matter. High and ball, April 1st.
Joe Budden
Hope wa.
Flip
You.
Joe Budden
Oh, I don't think I ever. Girls. I'm cool, I'm cool.
Flip
I can't wait to see, man.
Joe Budden
We'll be back.
Malcolm
Same time, same place.
Joe Budden
Was so fire when it dropped.
Parks
They should have put cannabis first, though in hindsight, it was around and that's.
Melissa Ford
When he was scorching.
Joe Budden
They tried their best.
Melissa Ford
I hate how hip hop rewrite their history on cannabis too.
Joe Budden
I hate that. What did they rewrite?
Melissa Ford
No, it's just. It's. You know, once that happened with the. The battle and he became. They kind of treated cannabis like a joke, like he wasn't ever ill, right?
Parks
Oh, yeah, unfortunately, that's how it goes.
Flip
Yeah.
Melissa Ford
But him.
Parks
Him, this cannabis.
Melissa Ford
Exactly.
Malcolm
He's a problem.
Melissa Ford
He was there. You knew.
Parks
You better shut the up.
Melissa Ford
You know, any mixtape, anything, if it said cannabis. Cannabis.
Joe Budden
Can't rewrite that part. Yeah, they can't be right.
Melissa Ford
They wasn't there for it, so. Yes, they can't. That's how they doing it.
Joe Budden
No, you can't.
Melissa Ford
They weren't there.
Joe Budden
Can't rewrite it. Look, he had the whole firm scared on this. You know how tough you had to be to scare the whole day off? So you know what?
Melissa Ford
Yeah, you hold it down.
Joe Budden
Hold it down.
Melissa Ford
Yo, he might have had one of.
Joe Budden
The greatest rookie seasons ever.
Parks
Oh, for sure.
Melissa Ford
Now you really think about it.
Joe Budden
All right, we going, we going, we going, we going, brother Ish.
Melissa Ford
Get well soon.
Flip
Yes, sir.
Joe Budden
Get well soon. Until the next time gone.
The Joe Budden Podcast – Episode 809: "Willfully Obtuse"
Release Date: March 19, 2025
Hosts: Joe Budden, Flip, Malcolm, Parks, Melissa Ford, Ish
The episode kicks off with a discussion led by Malcolm, focusing on the redundant use of phrases like "willfully obtuse."
Ish counters by explaining the necessity of double emphasis in certain contexts.
The hosts delve into the importance of supporting Black professionals, particularly lawyers and doctors.
Malcolm emphasizes his commitment.
A significant portion of the conversation revolves around the appropriateness and execution of tribute performances at award shows. The discussion touches on artists like Mariah Carey, Prince, and others, debating whether tributes respect the legacy of the performers or merely serve as entertainment.
The hosts critique various tribute performances, questioning their sincerity and impact.
Joe Budden opens up about his struggles with depression, influenced by global events and personal reflections. This leads to a broader conversation about hope and resilience.
Malcolm shares a heartfelt story about his father's battle with depression and the role of medication in his recovery.
The podcast addresses the ongoing lawsuit between Drake and Universal Music Group (UMG), exploring its implications for artists and the music industry.
Melissa Ford criticizes the unethical practices of major labels:
The hosts discuss the dynamics of tribute performances, record deals, and the generational challenges within the hip-hop community. They highlight the complexities artists face when negotiating contracts and maintaining artistic integrity.
The conversation touches on the tragic passings of celebrities like Robin Williams, Anthony Bourdain, and Philip Seymour Hoffman, examining their impact on fans and the broader community.
A brief segment critiques Harvard’s announcement to offer free tuition to families earning under $200,000, questioning its real impact and accessibility.
Malcolm reflects on the significance of the Million Man March, advocating for organized activism to address systemic issues rather than internal conflicts.
The episode transitions to promotions, with Joe Budden advertising Prize Picks, a real-money sports action platform.
The episode concludes with the hosts sharing and discussing original music tracks, celebrating their creativity and connection to the themes discussed.
Episode 809 of The Joe Budden Podcast, titled "Willfully Obtuse," navigates a blend of linguistic critiques, deep dives into community support, the ethics of tribute performances, personal battles with mental health, and the tumultuous nature of the music industry. The hosts balance serious discourse with lighthearted banter, offering listeners a comprehensive exploration of contemporary issues intertwined with personal narratives and industry insights.
For those who haven't tuned in, this episode provides a rich tapestry of discussions that reflect the complexities of language, community advocacy, and the ever-evolving landscape of the music business, all delivered with the signature randomness and camaraderie that defines The Joe Budden Podcast.