Episode 817 | "More Mt. Rushmore’s"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 817: "More Mt. Rushmore’s"

Release Date: April 16, 2025
Host/Author: The Joe Budden Network
Description: Tune into Joe Budden and his friends. Follow along the crazy adventures of these very random friends.

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Introduction

The episode kicks off with the hosts engaging in their typical banter, setting the stage for a lively and unfiltered discussion. Joe Budden opens with a mix of humor and intensity, establishing the casual yet dynamic atmosphere of the podcast.

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Tax Season Troubles

Timestamp: [00:50] – [05:44]

The conversation shifts to the frustrations surrounding tax season. The hosts discuss the challenges of filing taxes, extensions, and the complexities of managing financial obligations. Mal brings up the issue of writing amounts on hoodies, which leads to a broader discussion about supporting black-owned businesses and the pressures of financial responsibilities.

Notable Quote:
Mark Lamont Hill: "I think if y'all a lot of information, have y'all supported Ish by buying hoodies?"

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Supporting Black Businesses

Timestamp: [05:44] – [39:13]

A significant portion of the episode delves into the nuances of supporting black-owned businesses. The hosts debate the balance between supporting these businesses based on heritage versus the quality of their products and services. Mal emphasizes the importance of supporting black businesses without compromising on quality, while Mark stresses the necessity of active support to sustain these enterprises.

Notable Quote:
Mark Lamont Hill: "We have a responsibility not to play into that. And I don't. And Wallow does support black business... the message is saying that we don't have to just think you can write off being black."

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Mount Rushmore of White Rappers

Timestamp: [65:06] – [93:18]

One of the standout segments revolves around the creation of a "Mount Rushmore" of white rappers. The hosts each present their selections, debating the impact and legacy of various artists. Eminem, Beastie Boys, Third Bass, Action Bronson, and Post Malone emerge as top contenders, with lively discussions about their contributions to the genre.

Notable Quote:
Corey: "Beastie Boys, Eminem. I'll go Mac. And I'll go... Action Bronson."

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Violence and Conflict Resolution

Timestamp: [143:37] – [157:08]

The hosts touch upon sensitive topics such as violence, relationships, and personal conflicts. Joe shares a personal story about a fight with his partner over social activities, highlighting the challenges of maintaining relationships amidst chaotic lifestyles. The conversation also broaches the topic of historical conflicts in the hip-hop community, particularly referencing the feud between 50 Cent and Ja Rule.

Notable Quote:
Joe Budden: "I hurt too much, right? You miss it too much. You need her."

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Battling in Music

Timestamp: [157:09] – [174:38]

A significant segment is dedicated to battle rap, with the hosts discussing recent battles and performances. They commend emerging artists like Rumnitty and reflect on past battles involving well-known figures in the scene. The discussion emphasizes the skill, preparation, and impact of these battles on the artists' reputations.

Notable Quote:
Joe Budden: "Rumnitty has proven himself as one of the greats. Undeniable."

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Controversial Birthday Cake Incident

Timestamp: [128:07] – [144:51]

The hosts recount a viral story about a birthday cake that read "best pussy ever," which sparked controversy and debates about respect and appropriateness. The discussion explores generational perspectives on such incidents, with varying opinions on decency and the intent behind the message.

Notable Quote:
Mark Lamont Hill: "If you name your daughter something that requires certain expectations, that's problematic."

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Promoting New Music and Events

Timestamp: [174:38] – [191:00]

Towards the end of the episode, the hosts promote new music releases from various artists and discuss upcoming events. They highlight recent releases, congratulate peers on their achievements, and share their enthusiasm for supporting each other's projects.

Notable Quote:
Joe Budden: "Shout out to Rory. I think this first time ever winning the Masters. Round of applause."

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Closing Remarks

The episode wraps up with light-hearted banter, reflections on the day's discussions, and final shout-outs to guests and listeners. The hosts maintain their signature blend of humor, candidness, and camaraderie, leaving listeners anticipating the next episode.

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Key Takeaways

• Financial Pressures: The complexities of tax season and the importance of supporting black-owned businesses without compromising on quality were major discussions.

• Cultural Impact: The creation of a "Mount Rushmore" for white rappers sparked debates on legacy and influence in the music industry.

• Conflict and Resolution: Personal stories highlighted the challenges of maintaining relationships amidst a hectic lifestyle, emphasizing the need for communication and understanding.

• Battle Rap Prestige: Emerging artists like Rumnitty are gaining recognition, showcasing the evolving landscape of battle rap.

• Respect and Decency: The controversial birthday cake incident opened conversations about generational differences in perceptions of respect and appropriateness.

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Transcript

[Joe Budden]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. I would have had to slit him if I seen him the other day. Whenever I see his outside, I'm snuffing him.

[Mal]

So what you're saying is he don't be outside no more.

[Joe Budden]

Now where I be at?

[Ish]

What you referring to?

[Joe Budden]

He be with hundred thousand dollar be at niggas that make a hundred grand.

[Parks]

Enough. Gotta go. Where you wait. Birds of a feather.

[Joe Budden]

That's true. Hey, there you go. That's true. We seen with the.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm about to say that don't work no more. You wrote the number on the hoodies?

[Joe Budden]

I'm not gonna start the joke, but the second he get it going, I'm on the bandwagon of it.

[Mal]

Me and Mark saw it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, he getting money, yo.

[Parks]

It's nothing more than a joke, though.

[Joe Budden]

Why did you write how much your hoodies is making on the back of Mark Lamont's vanilla hoodie and left it? I mean, vanilla envelope and lefty manila and Lefty here for all us to see.

[Parks]

That's not what took place, but it's cool.

[Flip]

What happened? You forgot it?

[Parks]

No, I needed to allocate the things to the printer.

[Joe Budden]

Don't say allocate to me. Don't say allocate to me.

[Mal]

But we all saw it, though.

[Flip]

All right, that was salute and we did the math.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I did a glitch. This number was crazy.

[Mal]

Yeah, that was inspiring.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, for real.

[Joe Budden]

50 grand?

[Flip]

You cannot say that. You heard that. You ain't rich up here.

[Joe Budden]

It was 55 grand.

[Mal]

55.

[Joe Budden]

2,200.

[Flip]

That's like a week.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I saw a nanny and a driver on that paper.

[Flip]

Right?

[Ish]

Get to it, my son. Let your nuts hang.

[Joe Budden]

I know one thing, boy. Drag on the autism. Kid's gonna be happy this month. Make some noise for that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah, they get this month because that hoodie is fire. He got on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That hoodie is fire.

[Joe Budden]

That's a fire hoodie. It is. And this is Joe being positive. Sounds negative.

[Ish]

Positivity highlights.

[Joe Budden]

It's a fire cause. And there's plenty of people out there that want to donate to that. I know we getting them at least half of the 55,229 a week.

[Ish]

We a designer, nigga. You get. You get into it, boy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Do you design those yourself?

[Ish]

You ain't design that with no. You're not that creative. He's getting away from me. My who you.

[Joe Budden]

Who you gas now he might be doing it himself, cuz. S did an interview. Said she dubbed him. She don't really talk to that really, so he probably had to get new designer.

[Ish]

No, no, he just got in check.

[Joe Budden]

She spoke to that nigga on some work.

[Ish]

She did what she's supposed to do. Professional relationship.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She st.

[Ish]

So my biggest.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Tweezy.

[Ish]

Yo, tweezy and tweezy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That was impressive. I watched that interview.

[Ish]

Good job.

[Joe Budden]

I watched that interview too. I did.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They asked about you. She was. She stood right hand high for you, dog.

[Joe Budden]

She held it down for you.

[Ish]

Yeah, yeah, but you got to understand. You got to look at the little clues. Her shit started twitching when she talked about this. I had to remind her there was nobody there. Who you. She tried to look it to the side. I say my son back. Got it on.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, new listeners. We talk about male old friend.

[Ish]

She like.

[Joe Budden]

I like what the new listeners may not know. We talking about one of male old friends, y'all.

[Flip]

Anyway, that's. That's putting.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Anyway, she did an exclusive.

[Ish]

That's putting too much in.

[Flip]

That's putting way too much.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, way too much. You ain't always got to do that. When we doing it, we be doing it already.

[Flip]

Okay, yes, I got you.

[Joe Budden]

You make it a point to get out there.

[Flip]

That I did.

[Joe Budden]

You make it a point.

[Flip]

Did these words leave my mouth.

[Joe Budden]

You do it in, like, a classy Planet Jackson type of way. I heard from a friend today that you said you were in town. Poetic injustice. Head ass on the planet Jackson.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Planet Jackson is crazy.

[Corey]

That's great.

[Ish]

I want to save the garage.

[Flip]

That's great, but it's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Where that hoodie money at, though? It's April 15th. That's probably why I'm thinking about it. It's tax day, so you must. Your filings must be crazy.

[Flip]

Did you file yet?

[Joe Budden]

Mm, mm, mm, mm.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Did you file?

[Parks]

I did file.

[Joe Budden]

You talk to him? Extension.

[Flip]

You asked for the.

[Joe Budden]

Why'd you have.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I did the extension too.

[Flip]

Why you guys don't wanna see the number?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Um, I didn't wanna write a check.

[Flip]

I saw the number sometimes principal.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I just been wanting to write that check.

[Flip]

I don't wanna write this check.

[Joe Budden]

Is this. What are y'all talking about? For the people that don't know. April 15, they talking about writing checks. And for the People that's listening out.

[Ish]

There, April 15th is the final day to file.

[Parks]

People that are self employed or that have to pay taxes. Today is your deadline that you're supposed to be following your. Or you filing spanking or you can file an extension.

[Ish]

So October, are you trying to look for a return?

[Parks]

A return.

[Ish]

What is it called?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, like a refund.

[Ish]

Refund, yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's looked at you like you know how rich I am. Did you see the manila?

[Ish]

Might be pulling some.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, yeah, you know, you looking for refutish.

[Ish]

You claiming baby girl, Baby girl. You do. I don't know.

[Joe Budden]

I'm.

[Parks]

I'm. My accountant is figuring all my out.

[Ish]

Shout out to you.

[Parks]

It's a lot of.

[Joe Budden]

But. Oh, you got an accountant and you need an extension.

[Parks]

Yeah, my accountant files the extension.

[Ish]

They filed for the extension.

[Parks]

I know, but yeah, they filed for.

[Joe Budden]

Probably just needed some more time. A lot more gathering everything.

[Ish]

Indeed.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So if y'all a lot of information. Have y'all supported Ish by buying hoodies?

[Ish]

I bought a hoodie.

[Mal]

I got a hoodie.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what's up.

[Joe Budden]

That's what's up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was really asking, did you buy one? Yeah, I bought. I bought one. That's part of why I was trying to figure out I bought one.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. I was asked to make sure we all support him. Everybody out there should support Mark.

[Parks]

One. Two, actually.

[Ish]

Oh, you always trying to overdo.

[Mal]

He got a one up, everybody.

[Ish]

I didn't know if you burn ass, nigga. Mark, what you doing, man?

[Mal]

What you got to buy two for?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I ain't know y'all didn't buy two. I thought y'all might have had five. Y'all been working there for years.

[Joe Budden]

Disrespectful.

[Ish]

We support our brother.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's right. Everybody support.

[Joe Budden]

Support.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Ish hoodies, man. I think they dope.

[Mal]

This nigga a genius.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He really is.

[Mal]

See what he did with the autism joint? Put the 20, 25 on it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, he come back right.

[Mal]

I see. Listen, I understand the game.

[Joe Budden]

We getting them niggas.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We squeeze them niggas every year. Old ass autism.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, what they gonna do about it?

[Parks]

What's wrong with you, man?

[Ish]

Yo, we don't.

[Joe Budden]

What. What the little autistic kids going to do if we rob them?

[Mal]

No, he donating.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, they got. They got wallets. They got bank accounts. They taking the out there.

[Flip]

Do you let us. Do you let the people know how much of the proceeds go? Like, is it like 5%, 10%?

[Parks]

Such a white Canadian. Do I let what people know?

[Flip]

Well, anybody purchasing the hoodie for the cause.

[Ish]

Good job, man.

[Mal]

Portion goes.

[Ish]

What's a. What's a portion?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh.

[Ish]

What is the portion to you?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Ish.

[Parks]

When you go donate money to the Red Cross, you ask them what they giving them.

[Ish]

No, but they have it all written down. 2% go. But the Red Cross. My mom used to work with me with them. I don't want to take the Red Cross around anymore. Listen.

[Mal]

Yeah, they are.

[Ish]

They are.

[Flip]

Some companies do. 50 of the proceeds are going to go to such cost.

[Joe Budden]

Some companies do.

[Flip]

Some companies do.

[Ish]

Some do. Some companies do.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Most don't, though.

[Joe Budden]

But some do is what Mel is saying.

[Flip]

I was just asking.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, that's a great question.

[Joe Budden]

I'm just repeating what Mel said. Mel said some of them do say 50%.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Listen, me.

[Flip]

And sometimes they say, because it used.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

To be a hustle back in the 80s, y'all remember, like Sally Struthers and them, to save the children, they would go and get all this money. You give a penny a day, 5 cents a day to give rice to a kid in Africa. And all of the money would go to the organization, the infrastructure. And then they raised a million, maybe 10,000 would go to Africa, if that. Yeah, exactly.

[Ish]

That's the type of shit me and him on.

[Parks]

Wasn't just the 80s, true. Oh, it wasn't.

[Mal]

They were saying that about niggas was texting, yelling facts.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was trying to.

[Ish]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

When that Hades shit was happening, yo.

[Joe Budden]

Autistic kids, yo, it's just gonna break y'all off. Unless the sales start going too crazy. Then he got y'all. But just later at the economy, summertime is coming up. Need to go the Drop Top or the Urus.

[Mal]

Something like.

[Joe Budden]

Something like that. Big BM's new seven series is out. I got it. He got to go to France. Look at him. He a France face ass nigga. So he got a couple of trips lined up. You got to purchase them ahead of time. So now is the time. I got a splurge on the back of the autistic kids this summer. My man, right?

[Ish]

I like how you get your trip shit off, too.

[Joe Budden]

The turkey hair transplant. Yeah, on these autistic kids back.

[Ish]

No, stop that. That's not nice.

[Joe Budden]

It's not nice, but we gonna give him a couple of quarters.

[Ish]

You know, when he come and talk about his vacation, he just come out of nowhere. Like, next week, yo, I got a vacation going to Monte Carlo next weekend. How many days you going?

[Flip]

I'm going to Nice.

[Ish]

11 days.

[Flip]

Jo be like, wait, what 13 days.

[Ish]

You like you ish. Don't worry about it.

[Joe Budden]

Oh yeah.

[Flip]

Where you going this year?

[Joe Budden]

You ordering food?

[Ish]

My, you good?

[Joe Budden]

Why you all in my phone?

[Ish]

I've been watching you. I don't give a. Ever since they got that. That phone tracker, I'm watching everybod.

[Parks]

Oh yeah?

[Ish]

Hell yeah. You got that little stupid ass they do on the computer tell you how much minutes you on your phone for the year them.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, Flip.

[Mal]

That's wild.

[Ish]

Smart, smart. You gonna wait?

[Mal]

Give him a minute. Let him get his shit right.

[Parks]

It's a nice hat too.

[Flip]

It is nice.

[Joe Budden]

You don't talking about me?

[Flip]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

How much money you had to get to text people?

[Flip]

Oh, too much.

[Joe Budden]

What's too much?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, that's a good question.

[Joe Budden]

And did you register Hide and Walter?

[Flip]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

It's a new.

[Ish]

That's a new thing.

[Flip]

Registered, applied for the trademark. I got all that.

[Joe Budden]

You can report all income.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You got expenses.

[Joe Budden]

Why your home girls report all income.

[Ish]

No, it take eight months to do it.

[Joe Budden]

Don't try to lie. Talking about, oh, I paid Tasha Smith to show up.

[Mal]

Had to pay for the. Had to pay.

[Flip]

It is expense.

[Ish]

Write that down.

[Flip]

You don't leave that poor girl alone.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Jesus Christ.

[Ish]

No, you leave that alone. You leave her alone.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Flip]

Yes, I claimed. Yes, it was five figures.

[Mal]

That's wide range.

[Flip]

Yeah, I know that's a lot.

[Parks]

Why you pay that much?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She must have made a grip.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, shut the up.

[Corey]

They don't respect that hallway at all. They think that little curtain is right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Magic cone of silence.

[Joe Budden]

Anyway, you answer, go ahead.

[Flip]

No, it's five figures. And yes, that is a wide range. That's all I'm going to divulge. It was painful, man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What's the biggest year of income you ever had?

[Joe Budden]

I don't know, but think about it and answer like in terms of like.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Was it like the height of video stuff? Was it like poc. Like what era?

[Joe Budden]

Or now?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Or. Or is it now this one?

[Joe Budden]

Or is it right this second? Jack, Today.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Today?

[Parks]

Why am I responsible for your peak?

[Joe Budden]

Oh, that's exactly what he said.

[Mal]

For now.

[Joe Budden]

That is not what I said. That's exactly what you. That's not what I was saying. That's why that you even interpreted that like that.

[Flip]

It is what it sounded like. It is. It's absolutely what it sounded like.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I heard.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, I was being supportive of a black or kind of black woman saying that her best day is now and tomorrow of the business ventures and the way that the world has changed. Looking at employing women and women being entrepreneurs. I wasn't thinking nothing about what the y'all are talking about. What y'all talking about? The window. Now there's more black, black female millionaires being birthed today than ever before.

[Parks]

And you're happy that you. Anderson.

[Flip]

You are absolutely right.

[Joe Budden]

Who's Anderson?

[Parks]

Windows.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, oh, Windows.

[Parks]

I'm slow.

[Joe Budden]

I'm slow.

[Corey]

It's a contractor joke.

[Parks]

Anderson Windows.

[Ish]

We don't.

[Mal]

We don't.

[Joe Budden]

Houses, nigga. Mel.

[Flip]

Oh, yeah. Now is. Now would be second to the time where I ended doing videos, started my television hosting career, and then was doing merchandise and making appearances around the world.

[Joe Budden]

I need you just freestyling. Making appearances.

[Flip]

I'm not. I was.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, hey. The Brandon Jacobs days.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Wait, who.

[Ish]

Who the fuck is who?

[Flip]

Brandon Jacobs.

[Ish]

Who's Brandon Jacobs?

[Joe Budden]

Let me look at this.

[Ish]

Who's he talking about?

[Joe Budden]

I remember those days, big man.

[Ish]

This is crazy, man.

[Joe Budden]

He used to be the running back from the Johns.

[Flip]

Ochiaite.

[Parks]

He don't like offense.

[Flip]

He's just not on the list. Let me see.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, no, I name wrong names on this, big bro.

[Ish]

That's my. Don't try to play Brandon like that.

[Joe Budden]

Well, yeah, but the ball part.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Flip]

No, I mean, right?

[Joe Budden]

So what do you fucking know? Don't try to make me sound.

[Ish]

Because it wasn't ham anyway.

[Flip]

It was somebody else.

[Joe Budden]

All right, five figures for Mel. Mark, how about you?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Probably. Oh, I haven't looked at the numbers yet, but probably high fives. Low sixes are probably.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, got it, got it, got it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Because I do a good job of paying quarterly, so I don't have to pay a lot at the end of the year.

[Flip]

Can I just tax her?

[Joe Budden]

That's smart.

[Ish]

Smart.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And that's what everybody should do. Especially, you know, if you're getting this, you know, kind of burden at the end of the year, you spread it out.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, Flip, I've learned.

[Ish]

What?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. How about you hurt less, right?

[Ish]

What's the question again?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It hurt, Right.

[Parks]

What's the most you've paid in taxes?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, the most.

[Ish]

That's the question. No, just this year.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, this year.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, not mine. That's not mine.

[Ish]

What's your question, though?

[Joe Budden]

But you knew that wasn't mine. Why you asked? He nervous? That's what.

[Ish]

What's your question?

[Joe Budden]

I'm saying, how about you taxes this year?

[Ish]

I don't understand the question. How much.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What you looking at?

[Joe Budden]

What you looking at this year? How much was the. Like, was it bad? Was it real bad? The day?

[Ish]

Yeah, it's A lot. It's a lot.

[Joe Budden]

Were you prepared? No. Thank you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I thought.

[Joe Budden]

I thought.

[Ish]

I thought I came up and I did.

[Parks]

It knocked you down, right?

[Joe Budden]

Now clear the account.

[Ish]

Like when Corey went through. Clear my out?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. That's hurt.

[Ish]

Because my thing was, like I said years ago, I've been doing payment plans with them. Forget my mother say, yo, you gotta do this shit. I do pay. They gave me like, three payment plans.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Then. Then my shit got fucked up. Cause I'm like, man, I'm not paying nothing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right, Right.

[Ish]

And for that year that. When I first got here, they was like, you owe this. So that was the whole thing I was going through. But then, now what they did is they went. When I got with this accounting firm and whatever, they went back to the payment plans and said, you owe this, and you didn't pay quarterly. You came with this deal. So they just said, yo, we can clear this up by taking this.

[Joe Budden]

All right, so let's clear it up then.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not happy, yo.

[Ish]

I'm not. I'm not happy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Resolve it however you can. There's nothing worse than getting a paycheck with a zero on it. Or like, you go somewhere and speak, and they'd be like, we can't give you a check because the IRS took it. I've had that happen to me before where it is a hurt piece. You go somewhere thinking you about to make a nice, nice piece of change. And they take all of it.

[Ish]

You saw what I was doing. I was at the room. I was talking shit to anybody, nigga.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I got you, boy.

[Ish]

Fuck out of here, then. You put that nigga for free. I was looking at your negativity. Holl out of you, bitch. Uncle Sam said, well, hey, we've been watching you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, Uncle Sam got the Internet, too, nigga.

[Ish]

Wow.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right?

[Parks]

So your man was punching people. We about to punch you, right?

[Ish]

Why they like that, though? They don't give a fuck. They have no consideration.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know what it is? This is what I learned. Unfortunately, the dude that's in charge. It's just like when you go to jewelry store or the clothing store and they act like they better than you. And the only one who can't afford this is the person behind the sir behind the counter. Yeah, the IRS officer resents the shit out of anybody who owes more in taxes than they make. Which is almost always the case when I owe taxes like five or six.

[Joe Budden]

Mark saying that they listen to pods, too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They do listen to pods. Oh, it's a patreon. Either they Going no. Oh, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Y'all be sleeping on these airways.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's true, that's true. I'm caught up now. They can eat a dick now.

[Parks]

Was him inviting you to his penis?

[Joe Budden]

Come on.

[Parks]

That little Spanish was mad at me, boy.

[Joe Budden]

What?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm saying. They be mad.

[Ish]

They be taking it personal to the DMV.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Whoa. 10 time. Dude was.

[Parks]

DMV can't do nothing to you.

[Ish]

Are they more ruder than the DMV people?

[Parks]

Them niggas can make your life miserable.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cause they know your business. This dude to me was like, you can't pay your taxes, but you can sit at the Sixers game. Yeah, I saw you at the Bulls game, Nick. Like, he didn't say nigga beats. I saw you at the Bulls game. Why can't you pay your fucking taxes? I'm not giving you no breaks. Pay it all this month. Like they talk to you crazy.

[Ish]

He said that on the phone?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

In person.

[Ish]

Mark, Ain't nobody, ain't no tax man.

[Parks]

Talked to you about that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Then what you gonna do? Punch him in the face?

[Joe Budden]

That's when I walk outta H and R Block. Get the fuck outta there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This is the IRS building. This is the IRS office.

[Ish]

Niggas is rude.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And it takes eight months to get a meeting. So they rude all you got. Yeah. You just gotta take it.

[Ish]

Wow.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Uncle Sam is still teaching lessons.

[Mal]

That's it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Just pay.

[Mal]

That's the lesson, right?

[Parks]

I had a little refi. I had a little refi. Said, no, no, no.

[Mal]

They need all that.

[Ish]

What?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Need that?

[Mal]

Need that.

[Parks]

So I cut the check and the was like, nah, we not taking it out the proceeds. I'm like, yo, just take it.

[Mal]

When we close.

[Parks]

Pay me first.

[Mal]

And then you close.

[Joe Budden]

Oh.

[Parks]

So I had to come up with all the bread, pay them niggas and.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Then take your hoodies too. They take everything.

[Joe Budden]

So you had to walk upstairs? Damn, man, I gotta pay them all now.

[Ish]

Have you ever been to the IRS building, nigga?

[Joe Budden]

So you walk upstairs under the bed, pull out the big joint, the gore Tex shoebox.

[Mal]

40 below.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Vasquez. You go get them the Vasquez shoebox.

[Joe Budden]

You go get them people their money, man. That's it. That different?

[Ish]

Yeah, it is. It's different.

[Joe Budden]

All right. This isn't fair.

[Parks]

What?

[Mal]

Paying things.

[Parks]

It's fair.

[Joe Budden]

It is fair.

[Parks]

Play the game.

[Joe Budden]

Go back.

[Ish]

Go back to the old life.

[Mal]

God.

[Parks]

Play the game.

[Flip]

What the does that mean?

[Ish]

Meaning go back to the cults. You have to pay. You don't know they Use the church as a no.

[Parks]

You should have just bought.

[Ish]

No, the culture don't pay taxes.

[Parks]

Piece of property this year.

[Ish]

Churches don't pay taxes.

[Flip]

Ma'am, I. I had a choice. Invest in business or buy the house.

[Joe Budden]

And your studio you had to build. You built your studio.

[Flip]

Oh, my God.

[Parks]

All of that is a write off.

[Flip]

I. With all the write offs, I still owe five figures. Yes.

[Parks]

Change accounts.

[Ish]

Why I be saying that?

[Joe Budden]

Like.

[Ish]

Like be having wrong but should be happening. Y'all account the best in the world. She's right.

[Parks]

You're Jay Z.

[Joe Budden]

No. Oh, okay.

[Ish]

We don't. I don't listen. That's my man.

[Joe Budden]

But damn, man. Right when I took the poor people drop out of the computer, y'all start sounding all poor and poverty stricken. You all right? Y'all need a loan. Yeah. Y'all need something.

[Ish]

Don't stop talking like y'all need to borrow something. We know when the IRS kicked you. We know when the IRS kicked you in the ass how you came in here.

[Joe Budden]

That's now. Yeah.

[Ish]

Now you a little happy. Cause you got your cuz. The shit did good. Cause whatever happened, I'm happy because I've.

[Joe Budden]

Changed my understanding of that. That's part of the plan. If you plan to be successful every year, this number is supposed to continue to grow. No, I'm supposed to pay them more.

[Ish]

Each year when you paid the irs.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know the tricks. You'll teach me. Someday when you want. When you want to be friends again. For real. When you stop this competition thing with me. Whoa, yeah. For real.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Then you'll share the tax tricks.

[Parks]

You heard them.

[Joe Budden]

The Zumundan Bank.

[Parks]

You ain't hear him.

[Ish]

They ain't gonna play right now.

[Joe Budden]

Stop this competition thing with me, man.

[Ish]

We'll get some win and we know you got a plan for next year.

[Parks]

This is insane, right? You mean. You mean once I get to a level that you think that my words really make sense and that I know what I'm talking about and I'm not because I got a black face, you don't really listen.

[Joe Budden]

It's not the black face. It's cause you don't shop a lot.

[Parks]

That might be it. So if I had some nice cars and clothes, then you'll listen?

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah.

[Parks]

Oh, there you go. Well, you won't ever listen.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Why you got bigger? I'm not gonna have no nice cars from 91.

[Parks]

I'm not gonna have no nice cars and clothes.

[Joe Budden]

You could, though.

[Parks]

I don't want to, but you could. That's part of the plan.

[Joe Budden]

But this is him playing with me.

[Parks]

So every day.

[Joe Budden]

I'll take it. I'll take it. I'll take it. I'll take it.

[Parks]

No balenciaga for me.

[Joe Budden]

Y'all want to start? Yes.

[Parks]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Budden]

Do y'all know what y'all want to start with?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Yeah, we got something to start with.

[Joe Budden]

My neighborhood really was just poor black.

[Mal]

And poor white, so I hear a lot about white privilege and I'm like, man, missed that.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, I knew some with sweaters, okay? Don't get me wrong, you know, But I was two tank tops in the.

[Mal]

Winter.

[Joe Budden]

And my black friends would get mad at me, man. Like, man, look what you did to us, man. Look what you did to us. Like, bro, do you think I would do all that shit and move right next door, bro?

[Mal]

Are we gonna split these plums or not, man?

[Joe Budden]

Like, if we're down here together, dude.

[Mal]

You think I took all your and.

[Ish]

Just don't have it?

[Joe Budden]

Somebody else has both of our.

[Mal]

And they're watching us.

[Joe Budden]

You up?

[Parks]

I'm the lyrical Jesse James.

[Ish]

What year was this?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, they got my part right there. That's what I'm waiting for. I'm waiting for the both of them. Hey, wait a minute, Wait a minute. Hey, mic check, 1 2, 1 2, 1, 2. Get out to wherever you might be listening from. Wait a minute. Oh, farts. Yo, this beat is so hard. This beat is so incredibly hard. I'm mad none of y'all rappers did what y'all supposed to do over this. I ain't gonna lie. Nothing started a Saturday morning back when I was 8, 9 years old like turning on Z100, nearing some snap Good luck.

[Corey]

I'm just gonna sit here, laid back.

[Mal]

To this nice mellow beat, you know.

[Ish]

Grab some smooth lyrics, take it away time to set it straight, you know what I'm saying?

[Savon]

It ain't no half step let's go, I'm ready.

[Joe Budden]

Rappers stepping to me they wanna get some let's go.

[Savon]

Ain't so young, you know enough about.

[Ish]

Me so pick a PC day Cause you're history, we offended oh it to.

[Mal]

Get for you to beat me it's gonna take a miracle and step and.

[Joe Budden]

Chill me that's the wrong move so what you want?

[Ish]

I just devour Like a pit bull against a chihuahua when it comes to.

[Parks]

Being dope Hot damn, I got it.

[Mal]

Good now let me tell you who.

[Parks]

I am W I G E A.

[Joe Budden]

Double D Y K A N E.

[Parks]

So don't compare me to another shout.

[Joe Budden]

Out to wherever you might be listening from out there. Everybody in their car right now is popping up. Dope boys and dope out there was popping.

[Mal]

No, you're just some fun tonight.

[Joe Budden]

I'm a machete.

[Mal]

Wait until when you drop the fun so I can chop into your body.

[Ish]

Just because you try to be basing.

[Mal]

Friday the 13th. I'ma play chase Lee.

[Joe Budden]

Chase Lee.

[Mal]

Chase the blackness.

[Joe Budden]

Always for the ladies. Always for the ladies out there. Shout out to wherever you might be listening from. Whole New York City, big Jersey, Big Jersey, whole dmv. Everybody in the Carolinas right now. Everybody in Atlanta right now. Everybody in Florida right now. Everybody in Texas right now.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All right.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, sir. Shout out to all the parents out there. Listening to all the kids always for the children. Shout out to all the college out there.

[Mal]

All you frat out there.

[Joe Budden]

Wait a minute.

[Savon]

Hey, you hit up for some reason.

[Joe Budden]

Got a great show lined up for y'all today, I think. Wait a minute. All right, man, time to get to it. Why not? Best broadcast in the world. Keep this applause going for the best crew in the world. What episode is this?

[Corey]

817.

[Joe Budden]

817 of the Joe Button Podcast. Keep that applause going. Brought to you by Fueled by Powered by Prize Pigs. Prize pigs, gang. Let me get these drops out the way and get to the best broadcast in the universe.

[Ish]

Who's the doctor that he told you to go see?

[Joe Budden]

Excuse me, sir, I'm sorry I have to wake you. Are you a doctor?

[Flip]

Hold the up.

[Joe Budden]

Excuse me, sir, I'm sorry I have to wake you. You're a doctor?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Who's the doctor?

[Ish]

Who's the doctor?

[Joe Budden]

He told you to go see Flip and mail.

[Mal]

Mel?

[Joe Budden]

Mel? Mel.

[Flip]

Excuse me. Did this motherfucker get a drop?

[Corey]

Two, actually.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That was kind of dope. Can I hear that one more time?

[Parks]

Who's the doctor?

[Joe Budden]

Who's the doctor that he told you to go see? Excuse me, sir, I'm sorry I have to wake you. You're a doctor?

[Ish]

What you want me to be?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, no names were named again.

[Parks]

But your little chin quivering and everything.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, what happened?

[Flip]

That's fury, that is.

[Ish]

Well, wait, why you offended?

[Joe Budden]

Let me tell me.

[Mal]

Are you cold, nigga? Oh shit.

[Joe Budden]

Are you cold? Oh shit. It's shivering for real.

[Mal]

Are you shiver about to you up?

[Joe Budden]

Mel Mark is one of your biggest supporters.

[Flip]

Of course you I know that, but you. What the what? Flip?

[Ish]

I don't care.

[Joe Budden]

Flip. What you don't look at Flip. Stand on some. Finally.

[Ish]

Her eyes is watery. What the you did to her?

[Joe Budden]

Wait for It.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You did have that drop a couple months ago.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, she's about to cry.

[Ish]

Oh, man, you did that, bro.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, nah.

[Ish]

Stop, stop, stop.

[Joe Budden]

That's not funny. Excuse me, sir, I'm sorry, I have.

[Ish]

To wait for you.

[Joe Budden]

Excuse me, sir, I'm sorry. I have to wait for you. A doctor. Well, wait, that's not fair because Mel had to drop.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You had a drop months ago.

[Flip]

I got small hands, a soft mouth. Okay, I'm doing just.

[Joe Budden]

You didn't like that. But we didn't hit that one out of the park. So we just still working.

[Corey]

And we give you an analog custom a la carte drop every single episode.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, that's true.

[Ish]

Are you standing with that?

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Ish]

And you had bro.

[Joe Budden]

And you had the perfect drop from one of the biggest artists of all time. But I mean, the dick sucker part. Sorry.

[Corey]

Talking about game.

[Flip]

I see where this pot is.

[Joe Budden]

How's everybody doing, man? What's popping? What's popping? Good, man.

[Mal]

Good.

[Joe Budden]

Is it a thing that you have to drop?

[Flip]

Yeah, of course, of course. By the way, great song to start with.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, thank you.

[Flip]

Optimism, I think is my. I love that song.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Favorite songs I can listen to every day. Literally.

[Flip]

I will work out to that song. Just totally charged up.

[Ish]

Let's get it.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Corey]

I'll do a mad push ups.

[Ish]

Looking like an OG Richard Simmons outfit. Like, yo, Mouse, sit down, yo.

[Joe Budden]

That's the only time she be looking her age. Like when she doing this shit, she's like, oh, child, she. All right.

[Flip]

I would advise you to stop right there, okay.

[Joe Budden]

My girl?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Because punch down.

[Flip]

Just come to the gym with me one time.

[Joe Budden]

I'm down, though. I promise you. I'm down.

[Flip]

Okay, Po, you ready?

[Joe Budden]

Invite me? Po. Me Po came to the gym with us over the weekend.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Are you going to ask?

[Flip]

Are you going to act like I have never invited anybody to go?

[Joe Budden]

If you invite me out, I'll go. Huh? Okay. Okay.

[Parks]

I'm not talking about you.

[Flip]

I'm not talking about you.

[Joe Budden]

If you invite me to the gym, I 100%.

[Corey]

Okay.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

And I think that all of us should do like we did the basketball. I think all of us should do hot yoga.

[Flip]

I. I'm down.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm down for sure.

[Flip]

I agree. Or Pilates like I've been suggesting.

[Mal]

What the is hot yoga?

[Flip]

It. The room's really hot and we're doing yoga.

[Joe Budden]

And they in there, though. And they in there. Yeah, but they in there Flexible. More flexible than we are for sure.

[Mal]

Oh, okay. Okay. Set that up.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

They a lot more flexible, but we should do that.

[Flip]

We could do like a couple of poses here today. Like, we could do like tree.

[Joe Budden]

It's not hot anymore. No.

[Mal]

Yeah, it's not hot. It's cool.

[Flip]

I mean, y'all will get hot like.

[Parks]

If you don't Venus fly. Trap your ass out of you talking.

[Flip]

We ain't talking about you hopping on Cass.

[Mal]

Should do some pos.

[Parks]

Show off will be falling on them characters over there.

[Joe Budden]

One drive to the basket. One little quick. Just one little quick finger roll. Got that look. My man.

[Corey]

Man wheels. For real.

[Joe Budden]

God damn. We can't even finger roll no more. That's just crazy. Anyway. Oh. I ain't introduced nobody. I'm me. We're us.

[Parks]

That's true.

[Joe Budden]

Mail flip.

[Parks]

Ish.

[Joe Budden]

Motherfucking freeze. Dr. Mark Lamont Hill up in the building. Excuse me, sir. I'm sorry I have to wake you. You're a doctor. Parks is here, Poe is here. Corey is here. Erickson is here. Ian might have left. We dragged him so hard in the bts. Keeb is still here. How's everybody doing? Feeling. Shout out to Savon and Tanner here with us remotely. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here. What's going on? What's poppin?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What's poppin'what's?

[Ish]

Poppin'chilling? Chillin'chill.

[Joe Budden]

Chillin'great. Glad that everybody's chilling. What needs our attention the most, y'all call it?

[Flip]

Well, did anybody do anything dope over the weekend?

[Ish]

Fun?

[Joe Budden]

No.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Right.

[Corey]

You know, I sat around, was sad in the rain. It was great.

[Mal]

Went out real quick, but nothing too crazy.

[Ish]

Okay.

[Mal]

Ran into Joe and Kino in the spot.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Flip]

Oh, well, that sounds exciting.

[Parks]

No.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

No, no.

[Mal]

Really wasn't.

[Corey]

Ish. Wasn't there?

[Joe Budden]

Nah, I'd have slid in.

[Parks]

I got the call.

[Flip]

Didn't you have, like, a baby in wifey free weekend this weekend?

[Parks]

I did.

[Flip]

What'd you do? Oh, okay.

[Parks]

Enjoy my weekend.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Ish]

Fair enough.

[Flip]

You gotta make it seem like you were gonna step out.

[Joe Budden]

She's asking how did you enjoy your weekend?

[Mal]

Yeah, what you did.

[Corey]

Shit with the doors open, jerked off on the couch.

[Ish]

All the good shit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That was the main thing.

[Parks]

Yes. Messed up a couple tank tops. You know what I mean?

[Joe Budden]

It's probably it.

[Ish]

Man in the crib by himself.

[Parks]

Had my bed to myself.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And go out for a while.

[Joe Budden]

Did you experience cabin fever? I know that could be a lot when you in the house alone by yourself.

[Parks]

Nah, that was cool.

[Joe Budden]

You was all right.

[Ish]

He was good. Yeah. Yeah, he was good.

[Mal]

You Just in the house. Missing her, right?

[Parks]

Indeed.

[Ish]

Missing the family. Huh.

[Parks]

Quiet was a little different.

[Joe Budden]

Oh yeah? That's when I called something up.

[Parks]

I mean, you got better options than me.

[Joe Budden]

Something I called something up.

[Ish]

He got options. You don't got no options. Right.

[Joe Budden]

Zero probably deaded his whole roster optionless. And one of the number one broadcasts. Don't help to bring no fine girls to just speak to me. Me as a shy brother. That don't help either. Just chilling, man.

[Mal]

You got to be looking for that, my brother. Not looking for that.

[Parks]

They think I like white girls.

[Ish]

You like all people, bro.

[Parks]

That's what they think.

[Corey]

There's probably a lot of white girls.

[Joe Budden]

To listen even that's a startup line though. You can't trick me, you can't fool me, boy. I don't know who you talking to. Yeah, I think you only like one girl. Oh, yeah. M. Yo, come through. Watch this. Hey, come through around 9ish. Let me dispel that one. That little theory you got there. What did I do this weekend? I stood on business. Cause I went out five times, five days out of the seven day week. And my girl tried to say you went out too much. I stood on business.

[Mal]

Had to go out.

[Joe Budden]

I stood in business.

[Parks]

What does that entail?

[Joe Budden]

Fight to the death. Even when you wrong. Yeah. Insult her.

[Mal]

Turn the gas on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Gas.

[Joe Budden]

Gaslight.

[Mal]

Turn that gas on.

[Joe Budden]

Drag it, realize you wrong and then drag it for a few days.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was gonna ask you, how does it end? I'm asking for advice on this a little bit too. Like when you live with somebody or you're in a serious relationship. When does the fight. How do you know it's over?

[Parks]

The fight is over.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like, me and my wife had this big argument last night about something dumb, right? And I still feel away about it, but like not enough. Like. I don't wanna talk.

[Joe Budden]

You miss it too much. You need her.

[Parks]

You don't wanna talk?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, I wanna talk, but I don't wanna. I just need a minute. But when you. You know what I mean?

[Mal]

I say that, but you can't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

When you still gotta do. You gotta pay bills, you gotta talk. You gotta figure out who gonna pick up this. Who gonna do that. Like what are you.

[Joe Budden]

You be real curt, you gotta talk.

[Parks]

You be real cursed.

[Mal]

How to say that?

[Parks]

Yo, you hungry?

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Flip]

That's usually the icebreaker.

[Parks]

Yo, two o'clock. What you doing? I'm picking them up. You picking them up? All right, bye. You know what I mean?

[Ish]

Quick with it. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Got you. Oh, no.

[Mal]

Mad quick.

[Parks]

With it.

[Ish]

My wife is stubborn.

[Flip]

And then send like an emoji.

[Parks]

Yo, I'm about to go get something to eat. You want something?

[Mal]

Thumbs up. The double tap.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, the relationship.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The double tap is a good one. If I said the thumbs up, that is.

[Ish]

Yeah, that's a relationship.

[Joe Budden]

Hold up for.

[Ish]

She was in a relationship before.

[Flip]

I remember what it's like.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, there you go.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Dead emojis.

[Ish]

Oh.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Flip]

Teacher's pet.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Teacher's pet.

[Ish]

Hello, Ms. Johnson. I bought you a apple. I bought you some.

[Mal]

Oh, no, we don't.

[Ish]

So highlight it.

[Mal]

No, no, no. Let me tell you what your man said.

[Ish]

You know what? Hold on, wait, wait. You know what I thought about today? You highlight when one do some up, you make it about all of us doing up. Like, yo, we got to come in on time. 10:30, all of us. I'm letting y'all know, when one nigga. When a nigga doing good, you wanna just throw it in his face. Yo, he doing so good, nigga. Highlight that Cass is doing good or highlight the individual that's doing bad. You bitch ass niggas.

[Mal]

Hey, Flip, I walk in today, the nigga goes, yeah, yo, thanks to Mark, they get new couches now.

[Ish]

Who got new couches? Excuse me.

[Mal]

Thanks to Mark, we getting new couches now.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You guys have to thank me.

[Ish]

Just.

[Mal]

Tell what the man said.

[Ish]

This is his job to cross the sort of content, but it don't work. His trigger hand is shaky. He do it wrong. A n like me. I know that. I know the. I know what you got. I know what I got. So I just look like, oh, well, wait.

[Flip]

What's the correlation?

[Ish]

I know my man, Guy. I know my man.

[Flip]

What's the correlation, Mark? New couches.

[Ish]

He's saying that Mark did so. He's saying that Mark upped it so much that he's able to invest into new couches thanks to Mark. And I think that's fly. I'mma sit there and enjoy it. Nigga, give me a new chair too.

[Joe Budden]

Mark.

[Ish]

Big Mark.

[Joe Budden]

Shout to Mark.

[Ish]

I salute that nigga.

[Joe Budden]

I was like, fuck it.

[Mal]

Shout out to Mark, Give me a new couch. I hate this shit.

[Ish]

I know my offer. Yo, I need you.

[Flip]

You want your new chair to have, like, the attachable table that flips up? No. Okay.

[Ish]

Oh.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay, wait. It's going to be that kind of show.

[Ish]

Shoot shot at me. That's the close range head shot.

[Joe Budden]

Audience, I want y'all to know I asked the cast about the. The shooter meter before we started. And if everybody was cool with where the shooter meter was last episode, everybody was like, cool. So it's up. It's just up for life now.

[Ish]

Hey, yo, this weekend, man, I tried to get into the Vibes concert, and I didn't get in.

[Mal]

We told you that.

[Ish]

Yeah, but I tried to go on. I recorded the whole thing. Face recognition outside.

[Parks]

And you Jamaican.

[Ish]

Hey, yo, they didn't let a lot of people in. I don't want to call names, but I just know being outside, they was trying. I was arguing with. Trying to roast me, boy. I'm like, yo, Flip, you still outside? I wanna go on with you. Yo, what's going on? I'm going back and forth with Skane on the phone. He tried to do some old school. Yo, we gotta do the band shit. Like, nigga, get me in here, nigga. Cause I saw for a while.

[Joe Budden]

Did they stop accepting tickets after a while?

[Ish]

I didn't have no tickets. I said, face recognition.

[Corey]

Did it work?

[Joe Budden]

I got way, slow down.

[Mal]

What's your night?

[Ish]

Saturday.

[Mal]

You went both nights, though?

[Ish]

No, I didn't go Friday. No.

[Joe Budden]

Any night this trip probably wasn't gonna work because.

[Mal]

Cause the D, I thought he might double back, like, all right. They work this night.

[Ish]

No, no, no. My plan. I was doing work with the artist. My plan was to go in with the artist I was doing work with. But, you know, when shit get a.

[Mal]

Little crazy, the artist went in.

[Ish]

Artist went in and performed. She got me tied.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Did she kill it?

[Joe Budden]

You are a sucker. You are a sucker.

[Corey]

Just buy tickets.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, on principle.

[Ish]

No. I'm able to go to the Barclays Center. You couldn't carry no crates on any event. I'm able to walk in.

[Mal]

Well, not any event.

[Ish]

And no. But obviously. And I do feel away. I don't feel away, but I do. Because when it comes to the Caribbean. To the Caribbean genre, I'm here promoting it. I'm promoting it everywhere I go.

[Corey]

I feel the same way about underground hip hop, but I just buy tickets to the show because I don't want to have to. That's part of feel.

[Ish]

Yeah, I don't mind go through that.

[Joe Budden]

I don't want to go through it.

[Parks]

You play one sleeper a 19 months.

[Ish]

She gonna talk about. But it's more than that, though. I highlight the culture. It's more than that. I introduced the culture to different people. I argue for the culture, but you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like an ambassador for the culture.

[Joe Budden]

You think Vibes should care about that on a hot Saturday night, Sold out shows all over the place.

[Ish]

No, I don't think Vibes should care about that. No, but what I do think is that people should put things in place so Queen Flip is always covered when it comes down to the transactional situation, ticket sales.

[Joe Budden]

No, you're not that hard.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right.

[Joe Budden]

You're not that hard.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Ticketmaster.

[Ish]

First of all, I am that hot. But all the se. Don't interrupt this. Don't interrupt this. 1v1.

[Joe Budden]

You're not that hot.

[Ish]

You may be right. But all this did was motivate me. And I'mma show them.

[Joe Budden]

That's what it's supposed to do.

[Ish]

I'mma show them. I'm going show you for what you said. I'mma show them. And you going to see. I'm not playing.

[Joe Budden]

You can avoid all that inspirational and just buy the ticket.

[Ish]

Yeah, no, because even.

[Mal]

Or just be him.

[Ish]

Even if I bought the ticket, I'm going. I'm not sitting. I'm going backstage.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, shit.

[Joe Budden]

Real quick. Let me interrupt.

[Ish]

Everything is beneficial for me.

[Joe Budden]

Let me interrupt. Interrupt you real quick to talk to the Pistons. Pistons. Piston fans. I bought my tickets for round two for the Celtics.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Damn.

[Joe Budden]

Damn. Hey, early game two, you going with Royce. I mean, game three. I'm sorry.

[Parks]

You going with Royce.

[Joe Budden]

Sorry, Game three is in New York.

[Parks]

Oh, I mean.

[Joe Budden]

No. Game two is in New York. We got home.

[Parks]

I thought you was going to Detroit to see the.

[Joe Budden]

I'm. No, I'm. Game three for the round two against the Celtics. Celtics. And I bought a ticket for actually, the Pistons, but. But I bought my Celtics ticket, too. Pistons fans don't think you'll be around too long anyway.

[Ish]

Yeah. So let's lose.

[Parks]

He missed my joke.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I caught it. He just said, you gotta check in at Detroit, man.

[Parks]

No, I don't.

[Mal]

You gonna see the game with Boston versus Detroit? Yeah.

[Parks]

You and Royce going to see Boston Detroit game. Boy.

[Joe Budden]

You're not stupid. Oh. You're not crazy. You're not.

[Ish]

How the Pistons looking? Are you looking good?

[Parks]

Yeah, they looking good.

[Joe Budden]

Stop.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

My money on the Knicks, but they going.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, stop the Knicks.

[Parks]

Probably going to be.

[Joe Budden]

Not get crazy.

[Parks]

No, it's not.

[Mal]

He said some gangster. He talking about five games.

[Joe Budden]

It will be five games.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I take the Knicks in five or six. Yeah.

[Ish]

Are the Knicks healthy right now?

[Parks]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They actually got healthy at the right time.

[Ish]

Wow.

[Parks]

I. I don't think it's no cakewalk, Detroit.

[Joe Budden]

We not stop. We got to get to. Actually, before we get to it, let me share something with y'all that I. I shouldn't. My mom and my dad went away this weekend to some Shit that they go to every year together with their significant others. Yeah, like a group trip. Like, my mom brought her man. My dad brings his fucking wife dope. They take the ride. It's in Virginia somewhere. I can't speak too much about the trip, but they take a trip every year that's fine together.

[Ish]

I think that's dope.

[Joe Budden]

They get the hotels, boats and shit. Cool. Saturday morning, my mom gives me a call on the phone. She says, good morning. Say, mom, good morning. But her voice sounds like, funny. It sounds like floaty, like just happy and just real good start to the morning. Even though it's only 8am but I don't pick up on it yet. I just say, mom. Mom sounds funny. Same old.

[Parks]

What's going on?

[Joe Budden]

Said, oh, not much, huh? My man, just. When he left, he went, go do such and such and such and such. I stayed back, figured I'd get some extra sleep, lay down. He told me if he'll come back later and get me. It's like, okay. Like, you all right?

[Parks]

Proposed.

[Joe Budden]

She said, oh, yeah, yeah, she's feeling good. She's in a great. She in a great mood. Everything's. I said, are you crazy?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Y'all.

[Corey]

Spidey senses went off in real time.

[Joe Budden]

I start thinking like, I've heard this voice.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, God.

[Joe Budden]

I heard this voice before, just not from my mom. And then when she said what the.

[Mal]

Was doing, yeah, he just laughing.

[Joe Budden]

He'll be back.

[Mal]

I said, ma, are you crazy?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Are you okay?

[Joe Budden]

I said, you can't call me with this voice.

[Ish]

She said, what? What, bro?

[Mal]

I said, he just folded you up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, God.

[Ish]

I said, y.

[Mal]

You just got folded up and you called your son?

[Parks]

No.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I said, you can't do that.

[Mal]

She said, wait, we.

[Ish]

We talk about.

[Joe Budden]

I said, yo, don't do this again. I'm not playing with you. We talk about everything.

[Mal]

We not that. Don't talk about that.

[Joe Budden]

We not that type.

[Mal]

That's Bruno.

[Joe Budden]

So. And she said, don't you go talk about me. She said, don't you go talk about me on your little show. And I said, I 100% am. But only cuz I wanted to ask.

[Parks]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Corey]

Don't play with me, Mom.

[Mal]

We might slide.

[Joe Budden]

You are correct.

[Parks]

I'm robbed with moms.

[Joe Budden]

Don't do that, right? No, no. And shouldn't do that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no.

[Joe Budden]

And y'all know the voice I'm talking about. The fuck is wrong with her?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Let me ask you a question. Would it have been better if it was your dad? Okay.

[Corey]

H. Call me after that.

[Mal]

And why you. So I.

[Joe Budden]

So I start giving her a pep talk. I said, all right, she ain't need it. No.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, no.

[Joe Budden]

I say, m, you got to get up and get dressed now. You can't just be laying here with no dignity. You can't just be, hey, mom, you got to get up. You in trouble.

[Mal]

Yeah, you right. Yeah, get up. Go be doing something.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, me and my mom had the greatest laugh about this, but I just thought that was hilarious.

[Parks]

That's funny.

[Mal]

No, that's funny.

[Parks]

That's hilarious.

[Joe Budden]

Can't do that.

[Corey]

No, not at all.

[Joe Budden]

Cuz now I'm supposed to look at.

[Parks]

This man like, you want to knock his face off?

[Ish]

He SM glasses, right? With the glasses.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, my mom boyfriend. I was like, I'm only going to tell a story, cuz you faithful. Like, if you wasn't a faithful woman, then. Then I wouldn't say it on the post that, hey, if you listen out there, that's when we don't tell the whole truth. When somebody's not being faithful, shout out to moms.

[Ish]

It's crazy.

[Parks]

Watch me listen to this.

[Joe Budden]

All right, we don't want to start.

[Ish]

Let's do it. Let's do it.

[Joe Budden]

Let's do it. Let's do it. Where do they need our attention most, Gil?

[Mal]

Women. Women in space.

[Joe Budden]

Space.

[Parks]

Mel, take it away.

[Flip]

No, I don't.

[Joe Budden]

This is the only time we can say women are space cadets and not be.

[Corey]

The crazy part to me is they rode the dick rocket that looked exactly like a.

[Joe Budden]

Yes. And some of them throbbing through space. It was nuts. It was a dick rocket.

[Corey]

It was a dick rocket.

[Joe Budden]

Who wants to start? Who wants to lead us off here?

[Parks]

No matter how I feel like Mel.

[Corey]

Should really be the deliverer of this crazy information.

[Flip]

I'm just gonna say how confused I am by this whole situation.

[Ish]

Okay.

[Corey]

I'm glad it's not just us, man.

[Flip]

Every single article or piece I've seen written in the media has focused on their outfits, on the fact that they're doing their hair, doing their makeup. I'm like, what the are we talking about?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What exactly is happening? I didn't. I didn't get this story. What exactly is happening?

[Flip]

Jeff Bezos, his.

[Joe Budden]

His.

[Flip]

It was his first flight to the moon. I don't know where the they went.

[Mal]

No, they just went right to space and back down.

[Joe Budden]

So we said, Jeff Bezos is doing. Doing like space influencers.

[Corey]

So then he said he's doing his Elon impression.

[Flip]

Yeah, his Elon impression.

[Mal]

So he said, Katy Perry Gayle King, aerospace engineer. Aisha Bo, feminist activist.

[Joe Budden]

Amanda Nguyen, Corinne Steffens, Carrie Anne Flynn.

[Mal]

And his girlfriend or whatever she is, Lauren Sanchez.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They all went up in space.

[Mal]

They just went up and up high in the atmosphere.

[Joe Budden]

Stacey. Dad. Yeah.

[Mal]

I. I had a whole nice list. Like, we put some others on there.

[Parks]

Let me ask you.

[Ish]

They was there for one day, right?

[Corey]

Not even day. Was up there for like 10 minutes or some stupid.

[Parks]

Went to Vegas and came back, went around the corner. Let me ask you, what were they supposed to be doing?

[Corey]

I mean, looking cute and going to space.

[Joe Budden]

Raising money for autism too.

[Parks]

But in. In the insurance. Him. That's my point. Like, yo, Mel said she was disturbed by them just doing regular.

[Flip]

I just don't understand.

[Corey]

That's not regular.

[Ish]

Yeah, Hair.

[Parks]

As a woman.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The hair and the makeup.

[Corey]

Doing hair and makeup to go to space is a little.

[Flip]

I don't.

[Joe Budden]

Well, we going about here. Mel been to space.

[Ish]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Budden]

All right, that's my last.

[Mal]

Said to shoot. Shoot me up.

[Joe Budden]

I asked early.

[Mal]

He set us up.

[Joe Budden]

Asked early. Said Mars asked early. Okay. That's my last one for the album.

[Flip]

You're lucky that went over my head. Okay. Anyways.

[Ish]

Remember that Chris Tucker Mad movie, the Fifth Element, the lady in the Blue.

[Joe Budden]

You know what I'm saying? Great movie.

[Flip]

I love that movie. It's great. I like the lady in the Blue. Anyways, I don't know what you just was.

[Joe Budden]

So do you believe that they went.

[Flip]

Yeah, I think that they went. I think they went up and they came back down.

[Joe Budden]

How many people in here believe that they went to space?

[Corey]

Define space.

[Mal]

What's. I was just. What the is space?

[Corey]

They went up do.

[Mal]

I think they broke.

[Parks]

I think they broke the atmospheric plane and came right back.

[Corey]

That's it.

[Joe Budden]

I do.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So the first thing I thought was, well, two things. One, I. I get why they would wear makeup and stuff like that for all the press and all other, like, it's. I. I would. It'd be weird if they did, like.

[Flip]

No, no. It's not the fact that they had makeup on. It's not the fact that they had makeup on and they did their hair. It just seemed like every single piece I saw written on it, the focus was on them doing their makeup and their hair.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's why you have to either get scientists to go up there, astronauts or not. Right? Because if you get celebrities, they're gonna do celebrity shit. I don't think you're wrong.

[Mal]

That was the point, fam.

[Parks]

You want to see Katy Perry come from space? With no makeup on.

[Corey]

They said no uglies up there.

[Flip]

I just really want to know why the. She was going there in the first place.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But I actually thought it might be good for all this flat earth. That's the thought. That's my other thought was, like, if you can see the Earth, the Earth's.

[Corey]

Aim that at that couch.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, that couch is the flat earth.

[Mal]

You know why she went in the first place? Because they keep sending scientists up there. Nobody gives a. Oh, God.

[Flip]

Okay, so let's try to.

[Mal]

Try to make the common person care. We talking about it. We ain't talking about no sign. They had scientists stuck up there for months.

[Flip]

That's true.

[Mal]

Nobody gave a.

[Corey]

We talked about it a little bit.

[Ish]

Eight, nine months.

[Mal]

Nobody cares.

[Corey]

They're flat earthers.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't believe that. Y'all aren't flat earthers.

[Mal]

I'm not a flat earth.

[Parks]

I'm not.

[Mal]

I'm a. I don't know what the. It is.

[Parks]

I'm open to it, though.

[Joe Budden]

I don't see that. That's. That's the. The. The loophole. And I'm not a flat earth. All right, we take it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

If y'all already talked about this. I don't want to talk about.

[Joe Budden]

Please.

[Flip]

Yes, but you didn't, you dick.

[Joe Budden]

Ryan.

[Flip]

Maybe if the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But, but.

[Ish]

Oh, wait. Oh, wait.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You can't do that.

[Mal]

Let him go.

[Ish]

Let him go.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Are they with me?

[Ish]

I'm not being.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I can't tell if y'all joking.

[Corey]

No, they're kind of serious.

[Joe Budden]

Serious, Bro, they right there. You can talk to them.

[Mal]

I don't know what the. Is up there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So you don't believe, like, the people who've left the Earth and looked down at it?

[Joe Budden]

Oh, hell no. Hell, no. We don't believe them.

[Ish]

They don't believe in that, bro.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not a flat earther. I'll tell you this.

[Mal]

I don't believe we went to the moon.

[Parks]

Let me ask you a question. Why we always get the same picture?

[Ish]

Because the same thing I know from the same angle.

[Corey]

I'm sorry.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

For thousands of years, we've determined that the Earth is a sphere.

[Parks]

You got it, bro?

[Mal]

I'm not saying it's not so.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Why would you be?

[Joe Budden]

But you're not saying it is.

[Parks]

Exactly.

[Mal]

Hey, look, you said for thousands.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You believe in gravity. Like, if I jump up in it, it's gonna come down. Right? If I came in and said I'm open to the fact that it's. That gravity doesn't exist, that would be, like, a strange thing. Right. Because we have evidence of it. What's the evidence? That we. That the Earth could be anything.

[Mal]

Let me answer that for you. Prior to that, we quote unquote knew for a fact the Earth was flat.

[Joe Budden]

Right.

[Mal]

Until it was disproven. Yes or no?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's a little different. What's the difference if I say I think there's nobody in that other room. Based on my knowledge, there's nobody in that other room. That's the best knowledge I have. And then I walk in there and see somebody in the other room and then you're still in here saying, well.

[Mal]

I don't believe you went in the other room.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So that's why I asked, that's all.

[Mal]

You might not have went. It's possible you could have told me that you went in the other room.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What if I sent you pictures? You see what I'm saying? Like we have so much evidence of the Earth being. But also just how gravity, how the planet works. I mean, there's no scientific basis.

[Joe Budden]

It's cool.

[Mal]

Again, all science is theory until proven disproven. So period.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And you don't think the rat.

[Mal]

I think that as technology evolves the that we know, we realize we don't know and it keeps happening. We know for a fact this and then some new come out. Oh, we was wrong about that. They told us dinosaurs had scales and now they say yo, they were cover.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That would be.

[Mal]

We don't know until. We don't know none of this.

[Parks]

When you was in school it was nine planets, right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Sort of, yeah.

[Mal]

It was no. Sort of. It was nine planets.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Some people said yes, some people said no.

[Mal]

And when you was in school it was nine planets. It was nine when I was in school. So there's no way it was eight or eight and a half or whatever when you was in school.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay, now it's not.

[Flip]

Well, I mean this. That's a little different. So it's the designation as to whether or not food is still there, but it's whether or not it's designated as a planet.

[Mal]

But my point is at one minute this was a fact, it's not the same. And then next thing you know we find out some more information and it's no longer a fact. Was to say that we find out some more information and what we thought was a fact is no longer a fact.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's if there's nine planets, we could find more. Right? Or we could or.

[Mal]

Right, correct. We could.

[Parks]

But let me ask you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But saying that there's an object on that table either it's there or it's not.

[Parks]

You ain't seen it. Let me ask you a question.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So you're saying you only believe if.

[Parks]

You go, let me ask you a question. Do you believe Antarctica stops the bottom? That's it. It's nothing after Antarctica. It's nothing after the North Pole. You believe that?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't. I don't understand.

[Parks]

Does this stop, and does this stop at the bottom? They proven that it's below Antarctica?

[Mal]

Huh? You lost me a little bit. We good?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I just. I don't understand. I'm not disagreeing. I literally don't understand what you're saying, dog.

[Corey]

It's all right underneath the ice.

[Parks]

It's the main pot. We good? We could talk about this little picture.

[Mal]

Oh, let's get the 10.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, no. We're not doing that no more. If. If anybody has a point to make, make it and close this conversation.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, my part. I'm not trying to close you. I'm saying I. I just. I'm just surprised, that's all. I get the idea of saying that we can get more scientific evidence, but science is definitive on the realm. The spherical Earth thing.

[Parks]

Now it is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The only question would be whether you think science is lying or there's a lie about it.

[Mal]

Right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's different. If you're saying there's a conspiracy, like, we didn't go to the moon, that's different. But to say that, like, we don't have enough scientific knowledge after thousands of years, like, God, yo, stop.

[Joe Budden]

Corey, you're not on a podcast. He right, though, for a reason. There's a reason Corey's not on a podcast or a broadcast. There's a reason for it.

[Mal]

All I'm saying is we know something. And then we keep coming back and saying, oh, shit, we was wrong about that, right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But we've seen it, okay? We have seen.

[Joe Budden]

So Gayle King. So Gayle King.

[Mal]

Yeah. Gayle King.

[Joe Budden]

I personally don't really give a fuck.

[Mal]

Would y'all do it?

[Joe Budden]

They did look funny on the space dick.

[Corey]

They did.

[Mal]

Would y'all do it?

[Joe Budden]

No, no, no, no, no. I'm cool. Right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not interested in it.

[Joe Budden]

There's no reason. What is the what? Why are we doing it?

[Mal]

If I was, like, curiosity. If I was 80, curious, I'd do it.

[Parks]

I would do it at 80.

[Joe Budden]

I wouldn't do it now. If I'm in the house, I'm definitely not curious why the. I want to know what's going on in beer.

[Corey]

I. With Earth. This is Dope.

[Flip]

But you're right, I do it. If I was like. If I lived a big full life, then I'm like, if something happens.

[Parks]

Yeah. Like if I was wealthy and I did everything down here that I wanted to do and dreamed of doing and it was nothing. You know what I'm saying? I would do it. But I seen what happened to them niggas in the stodda can. I'm cool in the water.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

I'm good.

[Flip]

A little different.

[Ish]

That was different.

[Joe Budden]

What's the difference?

[Flip]

You could say the Challenger.

[Parks]

That's a challenge. They both are the same. You searching something that most of the world hasn't seen. So. And it's an adventure. It's a.

[Ish]

But also they Xbox control. And also they didn't take the proper, you know, precaution to go down there. Like the people has been down there to see the Titanic. They just took a cheaper route. They didn't use the proper material to build the ship, to build whatever the submersal. They didn't.

[Parks]

I'm not saying. I'm saying the rush is the same.

[Mal]

Got it.

[Parks]

The reason that the people did those things things was to. You know what I'm saying? So if I was older and I had done mad here and there was nothing else for me to do. I've traveled everywhere I wanted to travel.

[Joe Budden]

But what do you mean by that? If you've done everything here.

[Corey]

Life is past.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

If you go right up to the.

[Mal]

Everything right. Every girl in the world.

[Joe Budden]

Right. I just don't know what it means if I did everything. Everything on earth I would do it.

[Flip]

Crossed off his bucket list.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Mal]

They're trying to open that up and make it commercial.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Which I think is.

[Mal]

And this is how. This is a start.

[Parks]

But a lot of people have tried.

[Flip]

You mean like just taking like a.

[Parks]

Man from Virgin tried to do that.

[Mal]

Gonna be up there going, that's gonna be a proposal for some folks situation. Be some regular at some point. Hot air balloon. First go in a hot air balloon. They was like, yo, you crazy as hell. Why you getting off the earth? Why you going up in the air right now? It's regular. As it progresses, that's what's going to happen.

[Parks]

He's right.

[Joe Budden]

All right. I'm going to wait till I speak to Neil DeGrasse.

[Corey]

What is beyond Antarctica.

[Joe Budden]

Yo. The flat earth talk. I'm.

[Mal]

And get mad as hell when you say that too.

[Joe Budden]

That's Mark's. Mark was so flabbergasted that I just.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I just never met anybody life. It's Not. It's not? No. I mean, there are people that operate.

[Joe Budden]

Under other belief systems then.

[Mal]

I'm not saying that I believe it's flat. I'm just saying that I'm open to other information. I've seen a pattern where. Yeah, we know. We don't know no more.

[Corey]

That's all. Everybody up.

[Mal]

Boy, if I get edible, we get talking.

[Joe Budden]

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[Mal]

He ain't film himself though.

[Joe Budden]

So then I was like, all right, I'm a fallback back. Cuz if this is a cool event for guys to go cry at, then I'mma shut the up.

[Mal]

I was ready to fling too. I saw then a dude put a tweet out and he was like, when Max B. Come home, that's going to be me at the concert. And I said, you know what? I understand it now.

[Joe Budden]

No, you don't.

[Mal]

I understand it say that I understand it now. What that mean?

[Parks]

You rel?

[Mal]

No, I'm just saying like, yo, when it's somebody, I get what vibes mean to them. It's gonna be crying at the big show.

[Ish]

Yeah. What do you mean to the world what Vibes mean to the world.

[Joe Budden]

Don't say that again.

[Mal]

Say what you thought. You can say what you want.

[Ish]

A couple of years ago, it looked like it was no hope for Vibes to come home. Now he's home and you're able to.

[Parks]

See him now listen, he's.

[Ish]

Able to perform.

[Joe Budden]

Some of the witnesses didn't. Right?

[Ish]

I can hear you. What?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Just say what I read.

[Mal]

Hey, Flip, you cried outside.

[Ish]

No, if I did cry, it was crying with anger. I did cry. I was wang.

[Parks]

It was a wake up call.

[Ish]

For what? The Vibe joint? Yeah. Not way. I'm still Queen's Flip, but I know. I know what I'm going to do now.

[Mal]

That a work in Brooklyn, right?

[Ish]

No, I know what I'm going to do moving forward. Nah, I'm just talking my Joe.

[Joe Budden]

That's it.

[Ish]

Right, The Vibes.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Ish]

I don't know about what you told my witnesses and like that, but you know.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I'm just saying. Shout out to everybody that was in tears at the Vibe. Good for y'all. N them was going crazy. You keep trying to trigger me.

[Parks]

No, I'm saying, fam.

[Joe Budden]

The Jamaican, he's more like Michael Jackson than Max B is.

[Parks]

Yes, yes. By far, yes.

[Joe Budden]

And if we see Ice crying when Max come on, speak to Ice.

[Parks]

One month.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, I don't care about that. I don't what y'all think about me.

[Flip]

Why? Cuz it's corny to them to show vulnerability.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Toxic masculinity that they.

[Ish]

They exude.

[Flip]

And then you. And then you say the world doesn't care about y'all and your feelings and look how you're treating your mans.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Look at his fist. No, I did.

[Flip]

I'm talking to you too. You're totally included in that.

[Joe Budden]

When we lived together, me and Ice and the cops came, he pointed them to my room and they arrested me.

[Mal]

Yeah, you're right there, y'all.

[Joe Budden]

No, he did so. Yes, he did. Yes, he did.

[Mal]

Yes, he did.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Why would you do that?

[Mal]

Because I wasn't going down in there.

[Parks]

I thought you watched the show. This story been told.

[Joe Budden]

Like you might have missed this one. I. I don't watch all of you teasing him.

[Mal]

Hey, big dog.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But wow.

[Mal]

I don't play play with them folks. They weren't there for me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I've heard you joke about that.

[Mal]

No, it's not a joke.

[Joe Budden]

He's not joking.

[Mal]

If they come.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Look, this is worse than the flat up shit like. Let me point something to you. Let me play something to you.

[Mal]

If they come here asking for you and they look at me like, yo, where he at?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Because, well, you could just say nothing. I'm not saying you should go in my place.

[Joe Budden]

Well, we don't let him answer the door anymore.

[Mal]

Y'all don't answer the door.

[Joe Budden]

We don't let him answer the door.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I've heard that joke a million times. I didn't know that's where the it came from.

[Mal]

Now remember when. And I answer the door, and I.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hope that's why I didn't get the. Wow.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine.

[Mal]

The best thing a person can do is tell you who they are. Whether you believe them or not is up to you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And you. Like, I'mma tell.

[Mal]

I'm telling y'all. I'm not fucking with them people for nobody.

[Joe Budden]

Stop.

[Corey]

Stop.

[Joe Budden]

Not even. Not on this ultra black podcast. You will not. You will not on this broadcast. All right, Melissa, Just showing me a little story on the side that we're not going to talk about anyway. Can we talk about something that we can talk about?

[Parks]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Joe Budden]

I did want to ask you guys. There's a Mount Rushmore conversation going around. I wanted to ask you guys, who is your Mount Rushmore of white rappers?

[Corey]

O EM's got to be on there.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah, Eminem. I'll put Mac on there.

[Joe Budden]

Everybody, please just. I don't. Just do your list separately, please.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Cuz that's the point of me asking. I want to hear the different name or the different names.

[Corey]

Well, mine.

[Joe Budden]

How do I do the Beastie Boys as one?

[Corey]

As one. Okay.

[Parks]

All right.

[Corey]

Beastie Boys, Eminem. I'll go Mac. And I'll go. Damn.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Action Bronson.

[Joe Budden]

I want to say you put Action Bronson on Rushmore.

[Corey]

I guess for my. My. My favorite.

[Joe Budden]

You.

[Mal]

I'mma go.

[Corey]

I'm trying to think of who else I would put in.

[Mal]

I'm go.

[Ish]

I like that list. I agree with that, Mac.

[Mal]

Got to put the B.C. boys on there, and especially if they count as one. And I'm going to post Malone.

[Parks]

That's my fault.

[Corey]

I don't think he's a rapper, but okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, that's interesting.

[Mal]

Post.

[Joe Budden]

You said that's your 4th. Is.

[Parks]

That's my 4. That's my 4.

[Joe Budden]

That's your 4.

[Parks]

Uhhuh.

[Joe Budden]

Do you want to participate in this?

[Ish]

Yes. I'm going PA Fox, Beastie Boys, Action Bronson, and Mac Miller.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I got m. Beastie Boys search.

[Corey]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And I go Mac. I was thinking Paul Wall too, but I go Matt.

[Corey]

Oh, Paul. Wall's a good one, too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I should go.

[Joe Budden]

Paul Wall.

[Mal]

What's this?

[Joe Budden]

My. I like third base. I like Beastie Boys, but I don't need both of them.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Parks]

I was about to say I gotta.

[Joe Budden]

Go Boys is one. I'll do M. I want to do Everlast just cause.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Just cause I want to do it just to throw some games.

[Corey]

It's not bad. I mean, jump still is jump.

[Joe Budden]

Jump is jump.

[Corey]

Jump is jump. To this day.

[Parks]

No. They had a career.

[Joe Budden]

And I wouldn't be mad at any of the rest of the fourths. I would throw Russ name out there anyway.

[Corey]

I wasn't sure if you were gonna throw Vanilla Ice in there.

[Flip]

I was totally gonna throw Vanilla Ice in there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He cannot be on there.

[Joe Budden]

I don't think he can be, but.

[Corey]

I wouldn't be mad at someone saying that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I would be mad. I punched him in the face.

[Joe Budden]

You're not a Mount Rushman.

[Parks]

Like, I thought Serge, but they.

[Joe Budden]

Serge and Pete.

[Parks]

It wasn't long enough.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I should have just said third.

[Parks]

Base, but, yeah, it wasn't long enough.

[Mal]

I was thinking be real in there too.

[Corey]

Be not white.

[Mal]

He's like, I'm sorry. I thought. All this time I thought be was white. No apologies, cuz.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Part of it is, like, talent, and then part of it impact, right?

[Mal]

What you want me to say thing? I thought he was white, bro. What is he?

[Corey]

Some. I'm not sure what. He's Latin.

[Mal]

Okay, okay, okay. I think a lot of them are white.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Lat of bar accident.

[Mal]

White people get off.

[Joe Budden]

No, it's fine. It's fine. We're not a music podcast, so it don't matter. You can think off. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like, if we talk about just strict bars and people I enjoy Action Bronson will be up there for me. It'll be Mac it, You know, I mean, Eminem, obviously, but, like, the Beastie Boys changed the game in a way that you can't ignore.

[Mal]

You have to put them up there.

[Corey]

And they have some incredible albums, right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, great albums. But for me, Third Bass did something different too. Cause third Bass was the first white rappers I saw that rapped like niggas. To me, when I heard third Bass rap, when I watched their videos, I felt like they rap rap. Whereas I didn't feel like that with the Beastie Boys. Even though I love the Beastie Boys albums, it's still Third Bass felt like they were in the genre, squarely in the genre, in a way that I didn't feel from the Beastie Boys. So it Just so to me, their impact is different.

[Corey]

I can dig it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Mal]

See, that's how I felt. Like, if it's just who I listen to, it's a different Mount Rushmore. But if I'm talking about what you're. That's why I have third base in them up there. I would have MGK on mine.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's another good one.

[Mal]

I would 100% have just.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not mad at that.

[Mal]

I would have MGK a thousand percent on a personal Mount Rushmore.

[Joe Budden]

But, you know, and if Ice got to say be real, and I'm saying Chino works. Xl.

[Parks]

Chino XL ain't white.

[Joe Budden]

I know, but he corrected the record.

[Ish]

The Latin hip hop. Mount Rushmore.

[Joe Budden]

Let's just put Latin on there.

[Corey]

That's a different Mount Rushmore.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Which we can have, too, if you want.

[Ish]

Big Pun.

[Corey]

Big Pun.

[Ish]

Fat Joe.

[Corey]

I'm putting Be Real on there.

[Ish]

Put Be real Pun.

[Mal]

I'm not putting pun.

[Joe Budden]

Andrew.

[Mal]

Joe.

[Ish]

Well, you never put pun in.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You're not putting Joe.

[Mal]

No, I'm not going to put Joe.

[Parks]

Pun's on there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, pun is.

[Mal]

Pun is on there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Pun is the top. But you wouldn't put Joe on the.

[Joe Budden]

On a.

[Mal]

No.

[Ish]

Yo, that's interesting.

[Joe Budden]

Free.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Who would take his spot?

[Ish]

Who.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Who would be on. On a Latino list other than him?

[Mal]

Rapper.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

M.

[Mal]

N. Joe. Joe's not going no more.

[Parks]

Spanish rapper.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know. Yo, we just. Y'all just freestyle. Go ahead.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Joel Ortiz.

[Parks]

Bad, Bad Bunny.

[Corey]

I don't know if you guys.

[Joe Budden]

I love chopping music with you guys, man.

[Ish]

Did you say your mom?

[Joe Budden]

I don't have one.

[Mal]

What is the mountain words?

[Parks]

One.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know. I don't know. Holy.

[Mal]

There was one more going around.

[Ish]

Would you put.

[Mal]

And I want to get your thoughts on it. There was a mixtape artist around Mount Rushmore.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, yeah, I see.

[Ish]

Artist or group?

[Mal]

No. Artist. Mixtape.

[Ish]

50.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Wayne. No.

[Flip]

Wayne.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Who else? M. Let's go. M. I was joking. I was joking.

[Flip]

Help her, Nikki.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, okay.

[Flip]

Why y'all looking at me? Oh, no, go ahead. I just said two. That was big.

[Parks]

You said one, but okay.

[Flip]

I said Wayne gotcha. At the same time. There's somebody else.

[Joe Budden]

I'm putting mad on this one.

[Parks]

Yeah. My, my.

[Joe Budden]

On this one. I'm not putting four. I don't have four. I'm putting mad people on this.

[Mal]

Do five, then. Just do five.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not doing five.

[Mal]

How many you got on your mouth?

[Ish]

This activity?

[Joe Budden]

At least 7, 8. Because you have. You have to do 50 you have to do Wayne, you have to do Dipset Cam. Any one of the. That you want to do, you got to do Jadakiss and them you got to do. You got to do currency. You kind of have to do whiz. There's a few of these people that you have to put in all time.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think the first four you said is the. Is the answer, though.

[Joe Budden]

I'm putting me in there on mine.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was going to ask if you put yourself on there. Yeah, yeah.

[Parks]

Fab is a problem.

[Mal]

How about to say I would have.

[Joe Budden]

Fab has to go in there. Fab.

[Parks]

Got to go.

[Mal]

I would have Fab.

[Joe Budden]

Look at his face.

[Parks]

What?

[Mal]

That's not a disc.

[Parks]

It's not a disc?

[Ish]

Yeah, it's not a disc.

[Parks]

I'm reading his face.

[Mal]

Joe ain't got no soul tape.

[Parks]

He got moon music.

[Mal]

Okay, then he ain't got no. There's no competition. He got no summertime shootouts series.

[Joe Budden]

I got a Patreon too. Coming without your ass. Taking his ass off a couple episodes. See how. See how it feel. Took me off my own song. Say less. I'mma wait till your hottest take strip him right off of there. Anyway.

[Mal]

Salute, man.

[Joe Budden]

Salute to anybody with the Mountain Rushmore. Nobody care.

[Mal]

It's all a convers. I like the combos around them.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's been good combos. Posse cut combo was good. You know, all. Although I'm still mad that list.

[Joe Budden]

I want to bring that conversation back up.

[Mal]

That posse combo with that.

[Parks]

Go ahead.

[Joe Budden]

And B do is coming up here. Good. I think today. If he gets me back.

[Ish]

Oh.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, that's awesome.

[Mal]

Okay, great.

[Parks]

It's a few.

[Joe Budden]

Stay Fly to me is a top ten posy record.

[Ish]

K that one.

[Joe Budden]

No, no.

[Ish]

Stay Fly 36 Mafia.

[Mal]

I'd have sipping on some scissors. Higher than that. I'd have who Like a lot of 360.

[Joe Budden]

There's another one. There's another who run it probably goes on there. I think there's a lot of three. Six missing. I don't think enough attention was paid to Khed.

[Ish]

All very good.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Let me look at this.

[Parks]

Like at all time.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Parks]

Khed.

[Corey]

Khed has.

[Mal]

All I do is win. We take.

[Parks]

I'm on. Well, I'm on night was big bro.

[Joe Budden]

I'm on one. It's a boss ladies night.

[Mal]

But see by the criteria that I'm only going by B Do C. That's what started the conversation. Four needed four more members on there. Four more people on there.

[Joe Budden]

B is wrong and three is. If I was Gone. Oh.

[Mal]

If that's the case, still tipping going on in there.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, that's not. We sticking with it.

[Mal]

I got some threes.

[Ish]

Would you put French record on there?

[Mal]

What?

[Ish]

Don't stop. Pop that, pop that.

[Parks]

I don't know.

[Ish]

Impact.

[Joe Budden]

French got to squeeze in my mixtape combo too.

[Corey]

French got some real good mixtapes, as does Max.

[Mal]

Gotta go in that combo.

[Corey]

Someone listening to a podcast right now?

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

You're Mark.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, I'm sorry. I'm looking at the posse cut list. It popped up. B dots thing I'm sitting. Symphony and scenario to me, are way too low on this list. I also thought respiration should have been on there. Am I the only person that thought that?

[Corey]

I don't think it's poss. Cut.

[Parks]

What's respiration?

[Ish]

Why wouldn't it be?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He said for teeth is common most quali. And. Oh, I guess the remix was okay.

[Parks]

No. Great song again. The ladies night was a monster. I'm with that one. That was a hit.

[Joe Budden]

It was ladies night. What? It must be Angie on the mind. Honey got the sugar and the spice. Oh, if you say that to Angie now, she'll smack the out of you.

[Corey]

Like her rap career.

[Joe Budden]

I'm. I won't speak for her, but don't run up on her singing the lyrics to any one of her songs. No. What's the other one? Maybe not Ladies night. Ladies night might be cool if I could go. She going to smack me.

[Ish]

You'll fly away.

[Joe Budden]

Sicario was writing that hip hop. All right, all right.

[Mal]

What else?

[Joe Budden]

What else is in music? What else is in music? Do y'all care about this gyro $0.50?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I do. I've been following. I'm obsessed with it always. But this iteration, I thought was interesting. First of all, I hated the response 50 gave to when Irv Gotti died. I thought that was awful when I saw Ja Rule go in the Breakfast Club and respond to it. Finally, after all this time, it felt like he was rising above it. Like, you know, like, we're masters of self defense. We're not gonna start nothing. You know, I didn't like this, but I took the good advice aprem. And I thought that was gonna be the end of it. I thought it was gonna be a. A good moment. Then he hits Twitter the next day, like, yo, I got time. And it just started coming at 50 again. And you know it's gonna be a response. It's been decades of this. I know they're never gonna hit a stage together. I know that they're never Gonna be friends. And I've accepted that in life. Some people just don't need to be friends. But I feel like they could give a different model. They could model something different for everybody. They could just let this shit go, you know what I mean? At this point everybody's successful, everybody's good. They look to me, two 50 year old men going back and forth on Twitter looks crazy.

[Joe Budden]

Last time I said something like this, I had naked AI pictures on the Internet for a month and a half.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You and Shimmy.

[Joe Budden]

Take it away with what you guys think. Harrison, camera off me.

[Parks]

No, it's just, it's just a, a bad thing like Mark saying, like it's 50, 50 year old successful dudes and hopefully no violence could come from it.

[Mal]

But violence came from it, right?

[Joe Budden]

No more violence.

[Parks]

That was a long time ago, bro.

[Mal]

Some people don't let that go, bro. We sit here and joke about if it's up, it's up. Some really live by that. That's why like I get. I understand the mature side of it. I also get 50 side.

[Joe Budden]

I hate ice.

[Flip]

What's 50 side?

[Joe Budden]

Absolutely hate.

[Ish]

Why? I swear I agree with him, bro.

[Mal]

At some point.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not mad at you.

[Ish]

Why? Why not? Why?

[Parks]

Talking about.

[Ish]

I feel like.

[Joe Budden]

I feel like. I feel. You're asking me.

[Ish]

So I talk about the character, the person we respect.

[Joe Budden]

I feel like what I. I didn't start talking about you. I was on my ICE and then.

[Ish]

Come back to me. You said that you would agree with that. I need to understand that theory.

[Joe Budden]

I just feel like what ICE is saying is such a young man's quote.

[Parks]

Yes, yes.

[Joe Budden]

And us as older men.

[Ish]

Got it.

[Joe Budden]

Don't really need to echo a quote that is made for the youngins. It's up. It's up for life. Those are for people, the 20 year old people that view themselves having a lot of life left.

[Mal]

Hey Joe, this is a. This is two 50 year olds that's up for life with.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, no. And that's why I'm saying it does not mean the same thing when we get to talking about 50 year old men. I'm not talking about them and how they do things but.

[Mal]

But that's the conversation.

[Joe Budden]

But that's not a normal. That's not a normal outlook for people our age with tendinitis and arthritis, with.

[Parks]

Hundreds of millions of dollars. My. That have seen some shit in the world.

[Mal]

Right.

[Parks]

You should have modified how you think and your. And your mindset on the world. You got little kids looking at you. My. So one Hand. We're gonna talk about that.

[Joe Budden]

That's.

[Flip]

I don't even think that part's even relevant.

[Parks]

That I talk about with ICE sometimes because ICE takes this staunch stance on. I'm snitching, I'm ratting, we not going.

[Mal]

Out, I'm not writing, but go ahead. You say you are riding, but thank you.

[Ish]

Whatever, go ahead, go ahead.

[Parks]

It's good, whatever the case may be. But then on the same time it's like, yo, if it's up, it's up.

[Mal]

And I'm.

[Parks]

And I'm not condoning, but kind of condoning this message. I think that that is. I think that that is horrible.

[Mal]

Allow me to respond. I can talk for me. Oh, I'm being objective. I'm telling you that for someone who's who. 50 Cent has showed us who he is his entire career. I can understand his stance on it. Not saying I agree with it, but I get why he's acting the way he's acting. And he's not going to change on this gotcha. It's forever up in his eyes.

[Joe Budden]

Cause he's probably one of two, two 50 year olds in hip hop still in fighting condition. Him and fucking Freddie Fox, the rest of Everybody got normal 50 year old bodies and 50 year old breath. And if you punch one of you niggas the wrong spot, y'all niggas run around drunk, pilled up, fitting all duck. You hit one of you niggas the wrong way and y'all bump your head, you're gonna be dead. Stop it, please. And all the niggas that got busy with the hands from back in the day, hey, I'm looking at y'all now at 50. Y'all look one sugar tablet away from.

[Mal]

It being the end.

[Ish]

Please.

[Joe Budden]

You tough 50 year olds. Except for 50.

[Mal]

But again, y'all moving it. We talk. You said except for 50. That's who we talking about.

[Joe Budden]

That's not who we talking to though, right? That's not who we talking to though, right? That's who we talking.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I get what you said. You understand where's how we lie?

[Joe Budden]

That's who we talking about when I.

[Mal]

Say I understand why. Why he's acting this way. He talking about I hate Ice for that take.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, but, but I think what.

[Joe Budden]

I understand it too. Freeze.

[Parks]

I don't understand how you understand it. Oh, I don't understand how you understand that point.

[Ish]

Why not?

[Mal]

Because I'm being open minded and I. He's told. I believe a person who tells you.

[Ish]

Who the they are not talking about that.

[Parks]

We talking about how we, the people in this room, are viewing this particular scenario.

[Ish]

If you.

[Joe Budden]

You got shot is 1v1 with freeze.

[Ish]

Hold on.

[Parks]

We not having a 1v1.

[Ish]

It's not a woman.

[Joe Budden]

Well, let him have the conversation, please.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But.

[Ish]

But the conversation. I have a theory on the conversation.

[Joe Budden]

So wait till they finish.

[Ish]

He can shoot now.

[Joe Budden]

Go ahead, Flip.

[Ish]

Not shooting at you. You've been shot before.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ish]

So what I'm saying is that you've been shot. Have you forgave, forgiven. The man that shot you, have you sat down with him? If you see him today, the man that shot you, would you sit down with him, Have a drink, be cool? Okay. That man almost lost his life, period. He was blackballed by these people where he feel like he was blackballed. A lot of things happened to this man that he overcame the odds. So now, while it could be a skewed way of thinking, now his thing is I'm up. And it's up forever. Because you guys tried to take this from me. You guys tried to take my passion. If I didn't fight through it, persevere through it, I would no longer be here to provide for people. I understand that way. The person that shot me as well, I didn't feel. I don't feel comfortable speaking to that person, the person that broke my jaw. It was very difficult to sit down across from the person by having sane thoughts in your mind. And that it takes more than that when your life is on the line. Seriously. So when I say I do get it, because they are figures, but I do understand it as well. And I would expect you to understand it. I know you speak it from a mature standpoint, but you've been through something traumatic as well. And if you wouldn't sit with the guy that shot you, we shouldn't expect that from other people.

[Mal]

But isn't there a third route of.

[Corey]

Just, like, leaving it all alone?

[Joe Budden]

Exactly.

[Parks]

Look, you conflate. It don't gotta be one, it don't gotta be one or two. I wouldn't expect 50 Cent and Ja Rule to give a fuck about each other to the day that they die. Like, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that. Yo, dawg. And if you in 50 cent shoes, in my opinion, nigga, I made you niggas look like peons.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He already won.

[Parks]

I'm a couple hundred million dollars up. Through all the shit y'all put me through, through all the adversity, I. To get to this point, suck my dick I won. I beat the game at this point.

[Mal]

And 50 Cent is also the same person who's lived. His line says, if it's war, it's war to the very end. And anytime they think they back, we start it up again.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's the part that's unhealthy, I think, and dangerous.

[Mal]

I'm with you.

[Ish]

Trying to squash it, though. Fat Joe was trying to squash it with them. Yeah. 50 was open to squash and Ja Rule wasn't.

[Mal]

Okay, Right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So like I said, both of them. I think the shit is crazy.

[Parks]

I'm not, I'm not. It's about both of them I'm talking about. Yo, at 50 years old and we carrying ourselves like this. My nigga, they both rich. Supposedly I can't count. Nobody pockets. But, dog, the kids is watching you.

[Ish]

Got you.

[Corey]

My advice would be to leave it alone.

[Ish]

Leave it alone.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I got it.

[Parks]

Tell a nigga, suck my. You know what I'm saying? Like, I wouldn't on either side. I'd be like, dog, I'm not fucking with him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They could just be dead to you.

[Parks]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's how you do it, man. Maybe get Wallow to intervene.

[Joe Budden]

I do.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's a peacekeeper.

[Joe Budden]

I'm so glad that you said that. I wanted to ask you guys where y'all stood on the Wallow speaking engagement that he had, where he started talking about how he felt about black businesses. Soon as I find the clip.

[Flip]

Mark, I'm assuming that you've heard the clip.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And I love Wallow is my guy. I'm a Wallow fan. I consider him a friend. We do business together sometimes, you know, in terms of him supporting the store, things like that. But that shit was the most off base thing I've ever heard Wallow say.

[Flip]

Where was he when he made this statement?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He was speaking. From the clip, it looked like he was speaking to a group of either entrepreneurs or business owners or something like that. He was kind of giving him a motivational speech about business and things like that because his whole thing was. I'm not here to tell you. I'm not here just to make you feel good. I'm gonna give you the real, too.

[Joe Budden]

And I have the clip here.

[Mal]

Nobody want to hit us. Oh, I'm black. No black people. Nobody gives a about that. Kill that shit. Either you got a good business or you don't. All that. Don't nobody want to hear that shit. That's a hustle. Support me. Cause I got a black business. Is your restaurant clean? Is the food good? Do you got consistent cooks. Is the material your good. Stop doing that. Oh, you support the white people now? I support consistency, baby. About what color you is. I'm gonna spend my money. That paper. I'm gonna spend them. Them where the I want to spend it at Rabbit's Porsche, Ferrari limit. I'm going to do what the I want to do while I'm here. But I'm gonna tell you one thing. I ain't gonna be finessed off some black. But one thing about it. Listen to you is not going to make it. I'm not no fake ass motivational speaker that talk this dumb. I'm the number one in the country. You know why? Y'all seen me come out of the penitentiary. I make millions and I make millionaires, baby. You understand me? I come from the ghetto.

[Flip]

Tell me why you found it offensive. And that's just the first word that came to mind. It might not be offensive, but. But just tell me what was wrong with what he said.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think a lot of times the most dangerous things that are said are lightly dipped in truth. So bars. So it's not that anything specific he said is wrong. Like there's nothing wrong with saying I don't want. I want to be colorblind here.

[Flip]

Just let them get it good girl.

[Ish]

That shit was.

[Flip]

That shit was poetic.

[Ish]

Slurpee, girl.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Slurpee from the distance.

[Joe Budden]

I know, I ain't like it. Cause when she first asked Mark, it made it sound like she might have had a different opinion. He say two sides Barbara bars.

[Ish]

Well then shut your ass up.

[Flip]

No, I do though. But keep going.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So if you take each of the things he says individually, like, okay, you know, race. We shouldn't just look at race. Sure. If you run a business, you shouldn't be riding on the back of just being black and expect people to support you if it's a bad business because you're a black. Your cook should be lined up, your business should be tight. The restaurant should be clean. All that's true, right? Most of y'all are not gonna make it. I actually think that's an important thing to tell any business owner, any entrepreneur. All that is good. But what the takeaway comes from that is we don't have to. We don't need to have a special responsibility or special duty to support black businesses because they're black. And I think as black people, we absolutely have a duty to support black businesses because they're black, whether they're good or not.

[Mal]

I totally disagree.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's where the straw man comes. That's where the straw man comes again. I'm not saying keep going to a restaurant that has rats in it. But what I'm saying is he's saying. He's framing it almost like he said it's a finesse riding off this black show. I'm not gonna support you just cause you black. I'm saying, yo, we should support businesses just cause they black. We should pay special extra attention because they black. Cause a lot of times what black people do, which frustrates me as a black business owner. And everybody up here is a black business owner. So y'all understand this is that niggas will throw us away so fast. If somebody has to wait for 10 minutes at the soul food restaurant. Man, these niggas. I gotta wait. I had to wait 25 minutes for my soul food. I ain't never coming back again.

[Flip]

They'll wait like an hour at Houston's, nigga.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They will have a buzzer at the Olive Garden waiting for an hour to get that food right. They give us no grace, no mercy, no breaks. And I'm saying we need it. No community has the money. Leave their community faster than black dollars.

[Mal]

That's fact.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We give that shit away quick. And we love to give it to the dry cleaner, the restaurated, and it.

[Mal]

Goes straight to the other.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And that's what I'm saying. So I'm saying we have a responsibility not to play into that. And I don't. And Wallow does support black business. Like I said, he makes extra ships to my bookstore just to buy books when he could buy them from Amazon for a lot cheaper, frankly. But when you send that message out, it's dangerous. Cause people hear the wrong thing.

[Mal]

But you're proving his point with him supporting your business and what you said.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But they don't know that. I'm saying the people who hear that clip ain't gonna know he does that. That's the. That's my issue. It's the message. That's. That's. It's like we just said with John 50. It's the message. And the people that hear that and what do they do? People who are inclined to not support a business because it's black.

[Mal]

But if he's telling the business owners or the entrepreneurs, hey, don't run your business, don't look for your business to. Don't look for my business or anyone's business just because you're black. Have something else to offer. Because there's people that just. They come up to me, yo, man, support black owned Business. But this is a bad product.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yep.

[Mal]

This is poorly. Just cheap is this. Is that. And I'm like, I wouldn't mind supporting it if it was a good product. How about put that. That's where the finesse part come in. Like, I could do subpar shit and use just out of obligation should because I'm black. That's a finesse. And he's right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think he is right on that point. The problem is two things. One, the people who hear that, that don't get that message. And two, part of being a black business is working with other black businesses. So it's not. I get what you're saying. This is like an inside conversation with the restaurant owners. Like, look, don't just think you can write off being black. Right. Don't. That riding off black shit is a hustle. The problem is, again, instead of having that conversation in isolation, I'm saying, in addition to that conversation, we need to have a conversation encouraging black people to buy black shit. Because otherwise, that black business owner, do they get the black sandwich distributor? Do they get the black janitorial company to help work in their business? That's the part I'm worried about. And if people don't get that extra push to say, yo, support them because they're black. And I think sometimes at this moment, we're afraid to say that. I'm saying, support. Support people because they're black. And he's saying, I'm gonna be colorblind. Right. I'm gonna support people purely based on.

[Joe Budden]

Whether supporters are probably answering you and saying no. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And I'm saying, I disagree.

[Joe Budden]

That's what they're saying.

[Parks]

I disagree.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And I disagree with that.

[Parks]

I see. I hear Mark's take. I think Mark's take and Wallow's take are different.

[Mal]

I think so. So.

[Parks]

So I don't think Mark is.

[Joe Budden]

Is.

[Parks]

Is mainly opposed to what Wallow was saying. I see both sides.

[Joe Budden]

He's saying, you shouldn't say it publicly.

[Ish]

He don't want to highlight it.

[Mal]

See, I feel like the other part, he's talking to. I can see if he put this, like, as a clip out just to the world. Somebody recording it and putting it out is different. He's talking to a group of entrepreneurs.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right.

[Mal]

So my message is for the business owners. Owners, hey, y'all, don't go out there marketing looking for your support just because you black. Now, somebody recorded and put it out and get out.

[Ish]

Cool. Yes.

[Mal]

But I think he's doing this the right way. I'm talking to the business owners telling them focus on making a good product, not focused on getting support just because you black.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Again, I agree with.

[Mal]

So it sound like you agree with him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I agree with that message. I'm saying that message is dangerous when it gets put out in that way. Because in a world that already already looks to not support black shit, I'm saying I think you need to add a little more to that so that people get the full picture.

[Flip]

What could he have said? What could he have said added onto it that would have flushed out the entire message?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Now, if the product is good, I'm gonna support you because you're black.

[Parks]

No, I think you should.

[Flip]

I kind of feel like he said that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I think he's saying I'm supporting you because the product is good. I'm saying it's okay to say I'm supporting you not just because the product is good, but because you black.

[Parks]

Yeah, I'm gonna support you in initially because you're black. Period.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Boom.

[Parks]

I'm gonna support you initially because you're black if your service is good and if your product is good, I'm gonna continue to support you because you're black. If you are lacking in. My man just opened up a restaurant across the street. Life after, that's my man, right? So anybody that I know, I tell them, yo, my man, open the restaurant. Go to life after. Go to life after. I'm telling the people to do that now. I also, when my friends go there, I'll, yo, how was it? And people have given me positive, mostly positive feedback. And then the little bit of negative feedback that they give me, I tell my man directly, yo, this is what my people said. Yo, this is what my people said when they came there. But initially, I'm gonna support your product because you are black. The niggas that who clothes I wear on this show, I've never taken a dime from nobody who shit I wore on the show. I'm supporting this because you are a small black business, and that's what I want to do. Now, if your product is trash, I'm not gonna keep supporting you based off the simple fact that you're black. And that's what I think Wallow was trying to convey. Like, yo, dawg, your consistency, your cooks, your product, your service, all of those things need to be up to par. Because if they're not, then I'm going over here to the whites.

[Joe Budden]

I feel like Mark is just saying there was a more not so anti black way to sound that he could have presented it.

[Parks]

That's why I said, like, yo, is.

[Corey]

It possible that that was cut out somewhere since this is a cell phone?

[Flip]

I think it's possible, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

There may be more from the seminar. And this is the part that took off.

[Parks]

I've owned the business over 20 something years, so I'm not gonna tell somebody not to go support. And you should shoot to my plumbers, my electricians, whoever the fuck I hire. I'm trying to hire black first. I'm gonna try and hire black first. Now, if I don't have success with that, I still got a business to run. So therefore I. I don't give a fuck if a nigga's purple. If you could get on the roof and the bitch stop leaking, I'm gonna give my money to the purple man, but I'm gonna shoot for the black roofer first.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And that's all I'm saying. And that's all I'm saying. And I think it's important. That's the other piece of it, right.

[Parks]

Dog, is the hoodies. My nigga. Nigga never touched one of my hoodies. They be like, yo, dawg, he not Nike. What does that mean? What the fuck does that mean? So Nike is worthy of your money, but because I'm black and I'm starting out, I'm not worthy of your money? Money. When you take my hoodie sleeves and you stick them next to Nike hoodie sleeves, this is clearly superior to Nike. Our mindset is up. And so that's what I think Marcus is. Is. Is speaking to. I think both of the people have poignant points in the neutral world.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I wouldn't care.

[Joe Budden]

Where did you get the Nike?

[Parks]

It don't matter to the outlet.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, that sound good. Outlet.

[Parks]

That's not Foot Locker. Nike can't on my hoodie.

[Mal]

O tell them I agree.

[Joe Budden]

Animani seem better than Shade. I don't care what y'all say.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He stood down on that on Twitter. He was like, I don't want that.

[Joe Budden]

I couldn't wait for him to get here. I was going to ask him to sing. Give us. Give us a little something. Let's see. Be the judge of that. And I'm talking with m. Say he.

[Parks]

Can sing better than sh.

[Joe Budden]

Huh?

[Parks]

He said that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He said that when we was having the Shade conversation on Friday.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

He didn't say he can sing better.

[Mal]

He know seven people from.

[Parks]

He said he know a bunch of people.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no.

[Joe Budden]

Then he said, I can.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I can sing better than sh. We were so busy roasting them.

[Joe Budden]

You didn't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We didn't hear that point. Cuz I heard. Heard it on the replay. I didn't hear it live. I heard it on the replay. He said, I can sing that on Twitter. He was like, yeah, I was just talking. I went too far.

[Joe Budden]

Oh yeah, I'm act like I ain't read that tweet.

[Parks]

Acknowledge.

[Corey]

I don't follow you, bro.

[Joe Budden]

Mel, where do you stand on what Wallow said?

[Flip]

I can understand Mark's point, like in terms of maybe he didn't say it with the eloquence that he could have said it. But I mean, Wallow just, he just, he just talks, you know what I'm saying? Like he's, he's so energized, you know, and he thinks he's. The message is understood the way that he, you know, the way it's just, it's left up to interpretation kind of thing. If he had said, I will start by buying black. I'm looking for the consistency, though. Like, if I buy black and it just fails to, you know, kind of like have a point of consistency, that then I'm not gonna continue to buy from this business. But I'm always going to, like ish said, I'm always going to look for black first.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And that's all I want. And I think we have to constantly tell black people that because every single one of us has experienced a situation where we got passed over when we were just as good because we were black by black people. Nobody love white people more than black people.

[Parks]

Indeed.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And so every opportunity people get to choose white, they choose it unless they're encouraged to do otherwise.

[Flip]

And you're absolutely right. When it comes. It comes to us not having the patience for each other, you know, standing in line for 10 minutes versus, you know, going to Houston's and standing in line for a hour, you know, buying Nike over issues, hoodies, you know. So, yeah.

[Mal]

Hey, Mark, your lawyer black?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Which. Which lawyer?

[Mal]

Just asking a question.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, it depends on which lawyer.

[Mal]

Oh, I just remember you coming in here saying, my personal injury lawyer lawyer.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So here you go. And of course, that was tongue in cheek a little bit. My personal injury lawyer. You.

[Parks]

You said that live?

[Joe Budden]

What?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, well, we said it at the beginning of the show. And then I was like, is this recorded? And we said, yeah, but like, yeah, I don't care about it. My personal injury lawyer, the one who made me all my money, the one who I gave a large chunk of money to as a percentage, is black.

[Ish]

You know what I mean?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't. Do I have a white lawyer at all. I have a white agent. I do have a white agent.

[Flip]

Your brother's not your lawyer?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

My brother's black. No, my brother's my personal injury lawyer, but he's not my.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, that's. No, but that ain't the real thing.

[Flip]

I mean, personal injury lawyers are. He said it. He got all his money from him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I had a traumatic fall and got about, what, 450, I think, about two years ago. And I went to a black lawyer, and he's my brother, but I would've gone to a different black lawyer otherwise. I don't have a problem going to a black lawyer. My accountant is black.

[Flip]

My accountant's black. And a woman.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

There you go. Check. Check.

[Flip]

Mm.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

My agent's not. But would I have a black agent? I'd love to have a black agent. It just didn't work out, out that way. My agency doesn't have black agents.

[Ish]

Got you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, but I think. I think, again, I start with a.

[Parks]

Black person, and if I don't go to William Johnson.

[Joe Budden]

See, that's.

[Ish]

Look, look.

[Mal]

That's.

[Joe Budden]

That's the whole.

[Parks]

Saya got seven. Yo, let's go.

[Joe Budden]

No, man, look, I think different than whatever point Waller was trying to bring home. If that's how you get to speak to at the speaking engagement, then sign me off.

[Mal]

Man, could you imagine Joe?

[Joe Budden]

He's just going in there and talking to people. Like, I bet at all y'all, I'm the number one in America. Hey, y'all gonna fail. You're not gonna make it. And I don't give a if you black. Wait, what? Then they gonna pay me?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Did they give me 50 for that?

[Joe Budden]

Holy. I've been doing this all wrong, yo. Hey, I'll go out there and jump on a ledge if that's what we're doing. I'll talk to him, too. Hey, hey, creators, call me up, I'll go talk to you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, some people need that tough love.

[Joe Budden]

I agree with Wallow, too, by the way. I just agree with Mark also that that's not applicable across the board. Right. I support black business. If you lead out with that and there's nothing that follows, then I'm gonna look at you a little shady. But also, if you're a black business, then that's gonna prompt a conversation from me, too, though. It's not. Just like when I'm in the mall and the niggas on the first floor hustling out the fucking out the cubes, and they say here, if I'll stop and talk to them niggas see what they on. Yo, man, where you from? How long you been right here? How much this cost to get this now versus when you say it to some niggas in the mall? And they be like, yeah, it's poor black business. And be like, no. And suck my. Suck my dick, somebody. You bubbit up. Let me tell you how it goes the other way. Yo, but I love you some more bad babies. Nah. All right, you.

[Parks]

I never was in that mood.

[Joe Budden]

Why we don't just get a longer screw for this thing? Like, I don't feel like that's normal for this mic to fall out like wheels. I'm real crackage.

[Mal]

They real short.

[Parks]

My is never my. Don't fall out.

[Joe Budden]

That was some sloppy. I'm just. That was disgusting. We in the same room before, so I know you just talking about the mic.

[Parks]

No, I'm not.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They.

[Parks]

They came back for me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's time for the gay segment.

[Joe Budden]

Here they go.

[Parks]

They came back for me. They just took your money and ran.

[Flip]

They don't think they're in competition with each other.

[Parks]

Took your money and ran.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right, right.

[Ish]

It stayed in there.

[Mal]

He ain't pay at all.

[Joe Budden]

Look impressive. Proud of it all these years.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Wow.

[Parks]

Oh, wham you talking about?

[Mal]

Yo, y'all never go. Y'all gonna be 80. They gonna be 80 years old.

[Joe Budden]

No, not if he continues the sugar at this rate.

[Parks]

I don't eat, yo. You mean if you do the red meat every day.

[Ish]

What's your mouth talking to him like that?

[Joe Budden]

Yo, I just want my mic fit.

[Parks]

You just ate some pork.

[Joe Budden]

What'd that mean, I just ate some pork?

[Parks]

He's judging you as your intestines.

[Joe Budden]

He can't judge me.

[Parks]

He said something about sugar. I said something about pork.

[Joe Budden]

He been 270 since he got here.

[Parks]

I've never been 270 and won't lose.

[Joe Budden]

Weight and made a bet and made a bet and still couldn't shed the weight.

[Parks]

I've never been 270 in my life.

[Joe Budden]

265.

[Parks]

You ain't far behind.

[Joe Budden]

Wherever I am. Far behind that.

[Parks]

I've never been 270, so I'm far behind that. I've never been 265. I've never been 260.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Y'all should do a weight loss challenge. Why don't y'all see who can lose the most weight?

[Ish]

Oh, my God.

[Flip]

We tried.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Who lost the most weight?

[Joe Budden]

Joe.

[Parks]

No, we never had a weight loss challenge.

[Mal]

It wasn't a weight loss challenge. Ish came in here and told us he would Be a certain weight in two months and refused to step on the scale.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Why did you lose the bet or you just didn't want to step on the sk.

[Parks]

I lost the bet.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay. Why don't you have a head to head competition?

[Parks]

Never.

[Joe Budden]

Cuz there is no competition. Yeah, yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Silly me. What was I thinking?

[Ish]

It.

[Joe Budden]

I'll do it.

[Mal]

All it's going to take is one of them say I could lose more weight than you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And that's all I'm saying.

[Parks]

I'm not entertaining none of that no more bro.

[Mal]

Since anytime he say I could blink more than you, y'all go.

[Ish]

You know what? I just. I just. I just saw. I put everything together. I just saw that behind the scenes. Saw talking about it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So last week over that water.

[Ish]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I had some strong opinions is on that.

[Ish]

Let's hit it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

If I was a judge, I would say Joe was right.

[Ish]

Really?

[Mal]

No.

[Parks]

You wouldn't listen to what I'm saying.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Let me tell you what I would do. And it. And it. The spirit of which I. Wait, maybe I'm saying that backwards.

[Joe Budden]

Hold on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm sorry.

[Joe Budden]

If I was a judge, judge you would say is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I would say is right.

[Joe Budden]

Excuse me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You're right.

[Joe Budden]

There you go. There you go.

[Mal]

You're right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I bro in. If it was a judge, I would say you were right. But the spirit of it I thought was about the quality of the water. Not just about whether you bring water, but technically based on what was said. You absolutely were right. If I was a judge, I would have said you were right. That's fair. So next time y'all make a bet, let's make one with clear rules, clear stipulations. Why don't y'all do a 90 day challenge? Who lose the most weight?

[Joe Budden]

I just get gratification in knowing that he couldn't do the shit that he was saying he could do. Even if he gets the win on the bet. I don't care. I don't care about that part. But I knew he wasn't gonna break. Bring that quality water in here for two months. Trip. That just wasn't gonna happen.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Was that your understanding of the bet though when you were going through it or you just thought you had to bring water?

[Parks]

Fam, we've been having this bet for two months.

[Corey]

Uh huh.

[Parks]

The one I bought a po. I was running late. I bought a Portland spring water. I had a full green water in the refrigerator. I bought a pool of spring water that I didn't even drink here. Right. But our bet was you will not bring water here for two months consistently straight. That was our bet.

[Joe Budden]

It's not true.

[Parks]

That was how.

[Joe Budden]

Well, let me not say that.

[Parks]

Let me finish. Let me land my.

[Joe Budden]

Smart enough to know what the.

[Parks]

Can I land my plane?

[Joe Budden]

Could you be quiet and you be playing stupid.

[Parks]

Don't you play quiet and let me speak. No, you be playing grimy. And you always look for a loophole to alleviate yourself out of some. That's what you'd be doing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Polarity, fam.

[Mal]

You'd be.

[Parks]

Know what you did the other day? You did what Finesse did when we played Monopoly. That's exactly what you did. And you got super upset at Finesse when we played Monopoly. And you did the same exact shit that he did. You look for a loophole to escape. We replayed this shit live. We heard all of the terms of the bet and this nigga still said he's not wrong. What are we talking about? When me and Joe placed the bet and I lost, all of y'all niggas up here was on my ass every day. Yo, you paid him yet?

[Mal]

You lost.

[Parks]

You lost. You paid them him yet. When Joe loses, y'all swallow the whistle and everybody becomes a mind.

[Mal]

I said you're right in two to two months ain't up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Once in college.

[Mal]

The bet ain't up yet.

[Ish]

You know what I'm saying?

[Parks]

So. So like I said, my.

[Joe Budden]

But they can't say you want to be.

[Parks]

I'm clearly right in the terms of.

[Joe Budden]

Of. Of their.

[Mal]

In terms of the bet. You're right. The whole.

[Parks]

To me he went to go find some. That was said two hours after that.

[Mal]

Once the bet is made.

[Joe Budden]

You know that bet keep fighting for me too.

[Parks]

What you talking about? The same way I wipe my ass.

[Joe Budden]

Listen. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm off.

[Joe Budden]

I'm off of your general understanding of what my point was that bet.

[Parks]

I don't know what your point was.

[Joe Budden]

I know you don't.

[Parks]

We spoke to what your point was that day.

[Joe Budden]

Come on. My point is proven. It's fine. I'm not trying to prove it to y'all.

[Mal]

He said his point is you not agree.

[Joe Budden]

You know what the fuck my point.

[Ish]

Was for two months.

[Joe Budden]

Which is why. But you did.

[Ish]

I did.

[Joe Budden]

You brought Poland Spring one time. Behave here like you behave at home. I do behave here like you behave when you're dying.

[Ish]

I do.

[Joe Budden]

That was the point.

[Ish]

I drink as much.

[Joe Budden]

Spring you a polar spring at home.

[Parks]

No, I'm not.

[Joe Budden]

They come to work and be a polar spring.

[Mal]

I Wore that home.

[Joe Budden]

Except for sometimes you talking about.

[Ish]

Except for sometimes you talking.

[Joe Budden]

Sometimes you drink a spring.

[Mal]

I have that in my house.

[Joe Budden]

You just last week brought a polar spring.

[Ish]

Sometimes you spring, sometimes you.

[Joe Budden]

Stop it. I don't do that.

[Parks]

Don't try to minimalize me. I drink what the I want to drink and what I bring here.

[Joe Budden]

Sometimes that ain't include a Poland spring.

[Ish]

Is you talking about.

[Joe Budden]

And sometimes that includes a Poland spring is all I'm saying. I'm not trying to get rowdy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's pretty rowdy.

[Parks]

Never talk until he get first talking.

[Joe Budden]

Cause he want to stay on one part that he writing. You know what the the general conversation was about?

[Parks]

The general conversation is, nigga, for the last month, two months, generally, I bought.

[Mal]

A water that cost more than yours. Why the would you lean on them one day that I didn't?

[Joe Budden]

That wasn't the bet, though, because that was the premise. Antoine is not going to bring in the same quality of water and consume it the same thing for two months.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And I did, though he did have.

[Flip]

The green bottle already in the fridge.

[Joe Budden]

I bought better water than yours and more and polar spring.

[Parks]

You win, bro. You semantics, Larry. Like I said, you loopholes.

[Joe Budden]

What is wrong with me saying you brought it apart? Poland spring.

[Parks]

You got it, bro.

[Joe Budden]

You did so act like a bowling spring.

[Parks]

You did.

[Joe Budden]

Don't come to me and act like you alkaline, Larry. Act Poland spring when you talk to me.

[Parks]

That bet, you sound like a idiot, all right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I just hate it when you guys fight. This is the best, yo.

[Mal]

Because it takes nothing to get, yo.

[Joe Budden]

It don't matter. It don't matter. Turn it up.

[Parks]

This is great, bro.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

These argue about water.

[Flip]

Yes.

[Mal]

80 years alkaline.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm telling you, that's the wildest sentence I've ever heard in my life. 80 years old.

[Joe Budden]

It's going to be the same for real. No, no. I ain't talking to no polar spring at 80. 80 years old.

[Mal]

Protecting my peace.

[Parks]

You ain't protecting your stomach. Then you just ate a chicken, egg, pork, egg, and cheese from the corner. Now, now, Paul is way too good for you. Too bad for you. You ate a ham, sliced ham from the corner.

[Joe Budden]

That's one of the. I think that's one of the best sandwiches in New Jersey. But we can talk about it another time.

[Parks]

Rosalie, what's that?

[Corey]

Taylor. Taylor, Taylor ham.

[Parks]

That's Johnson ham.

[Mal]

Talk about Williams ham.

[Joe Budden]

We good? We good?

[Ish]

We good now, right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We good, we good. All right.

[Mal]

So one of them throw another little out there.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, we Good. We great.

[Ish]

All right.

[Mal]

That is amazing. It's a talent.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Y'all just know each other.

[Mal]

Activate like Doc.

[Ish]

I like that little.

[Joe Budden]

That wasn't even us activating.

[Mal]

No, y'all got activated. Everyone y ain't full.

[Corey]

Everyone's head flows flew off at some point in the argument.

[Joe Budden]

So that's.

[Corey]

That's up there.

[Joe Budden]

I want to pretend tip though. The one that just making it. He wasn't pretending. Yes, he was. That was a two on it when.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He jumped up on that one leg was like alkaline.

[Flip]

What the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I knew it was up then.

[Joe Budden]

Man.

[Ish]

He don't say something else like he.

[Joe Budden]

Thinking I said what I had to say already.

[Ish]

I let it go.

[Joe Budden]

I don't repeat myself.

[Ish]

Let it go and do the right thing.

[Joe Budden]

It's over already.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You pay him yet?

[Joe Budden]

No, the debt ain't over.

[Mal]

Wait, it was two months from the.

[Corey]

End of February, so March and April.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Wrong. But if he's all right, my business.

[Flip]

Yeah, that's safe.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But the bet is that he has do the same thing every day, right?

[Joe Budden]

I mean the bed is whatever he say it is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So you're busy.

[Ish]

Don't do that. Jo do that reverse check.

[Joe Budden]

He try to get the big. The big thing of eggs I ain't.

[Parks]

Talk about.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Joe said I wipe my ass with. He said I do. Y'all rich Rich like they asked for.

[Joe Budden]

$2,000 and I don't. And I was mad in Balenciaga the other day that they had one ply toilet tissue.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What they got one ply in Balenciaga.

[Parks]

That don't come from Balenciaga. That come from whoever the wherever cleaning company.

[Joe Budden]

Wherever it come from is wrong.

[Parks]

The that be stop whatever comes wrong.

[Ish]

Did you say something to them?

[Joe Budden]

No, that's just on the yo, you.

[Parks]

Took a in Balenciag complain.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You got ad as a dude.

[Corey]

You got ad.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, I'm not.

[Parks]

I'm not against that. My don't be clear.

[Joe Budden]

Well, actually no, you're wrong cuz I didn't take a in Balenciag multiple. I love that bathroom.

[Parks]

No be clear. I'm not against.

[Joe Budden]

I love that bathroom.

[Parks]

I'm not against.

[Corey]

There's worse places to don't let me.

[Joe Budden]

Find a public bathroom I like. I'm going in there Target on River Road.

[Parks]

My y'all in Target like home.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That that bathroom downstairs and you sit on the toilet.

[Mal]

That bathroom downstairs.

[Parks]

One. You know how many days I've been going home like you blowing it up now.

[Corey]

Now it's going to be hot.

[Mal]

Well, it's hot when I leave anyway.

[Ish]

I'll be down there.

[Joe Budden]

Comfy.

[Mal]

It's nice and comfy.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah.

[Flip]

You were also in the Target bathroom.

[Ish]

No, downstairs.

[Flip]

Oh, okay.

[Parks]

Big stall.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ish]

Turn the lights off.

[Parks]

The best bathroom in the world.

[Ish]

Oh, you hold it in right, Doc?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, or I hover. Y'all look like y'all be chilling like the raw dog in the seat.

[Corey]

Oh, no, I'm gonna sit.

[Parks]

I'm gonna make the biggest pallet on that seat that gonna feel like this. What you. You sitting on the seat naked?

[Mal]

I got taller cuffs.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't even say nothing. I'm asking you, do I sit on the seat naked in the public to know have toilet covers.

[Ish]

Right?

[Joe Budden]

Toilet covers. Don't be in there, Balenciaga.

[Parks]

You naked.

[Ish]

You raw dogging raw ass.

[Parks]

You go raw and bag love white businesses.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You think that you gave Balenciaga your.

[Ish]

Whole ass, but they gave you single.

[Joe Budden]

They also have cleaning utensils in there. Like you can spray it down.

[Flip]

Do they have a b I A Trying to.

[Joe Budden]

I would think it's a nice bathroom.

[Parks]

They got a thing where you can spray.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, yes, it's a nice bathroom in Valenciana.

[Parks]

That's kind of fire.

[Ish]

That's fire to have you clean your house.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Y'all in there cleaning the toilets in Balenciaga.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, I've done it. I've done it.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Mal]

That's what it looks like.

[Parks]

I would before I sat on the seat naked.

[Corey]

Mark's a bougie shitter.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I am a bougie shitter. I got. I lay. I mean, I will lay the toilet paper if it's an emergency, but usually I just hover.

[Mal]

You don't drink coffee, do you?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I drink coffee on the coffee shop.

[Parks]

Timeout time.

[Mal]

Be a bougie shitter when I come.

[Joe Budden]

All right, guys, enough on our shit styles, all right? We did it. We did it. I'm hearing that Taylor Swift will be starring in the new version of the Bodyguard.

[Corey]

Stop it.

[Joe Budden]

What?

[Parks]

Bodyguard?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

Whitney Houston. Kevin Costner, Bodyguard.

[Corey]

Wait, they're going to flip it.

[Mal]

Who's Kevin C. Yeah, Bodyguard.

[Corey]

Michael B. Jordan.

[Mal]

Johnny the Major shots, man.

[Flip]

Probably. Probably.

[Parks]

I thought.

[Flip]

Yeah, they were talking about it, remaking it.

[Joe Budden]

If y'all think that they like.

[Parks]

That is blasphemy.

[Corey]

It is.

[Joe Budden]

Jonathan means you can't go in no bathroom in no weird at all with no white girl. Oh, you think they gonna let.

[Ish]

He already had an episode. Holy. Get a whiff of running.

[Joe Budden]

What would you have Jonathan Majors on Hot and Baller?

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Of course.

[Joe Budden]

Of course.

[Flip]

I Would.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, slow down now, Megan. Good job.

[Flip]

And she can come, too.

[Parks]

You want that flippity flip.

[Flip]

But so Taylor Swift is going to play it. She's really tall, so they'd have to have somebody equally as, like. Well, taller than her. Her. So I would say.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And black.

[Flip]

If they're gonna do that, they're gonna flip it.

[Joe Budden]

Bodyguards don't have to be taller than you.

[Ish]

Well, in this. Love.

[Joe Budden]

Interesting.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Flip]

In this. Let's just.

[Joe Budden]

Are y'all trying to do, like, a real movie or a comedy like me?

[Corey]

Oh, it should be Travis Kelce.

[Joe Budden]

I want a real one.

[Parks]

She ain't gonna be kissing Matt Damon.

[Joe Budden]

It should be a black guy. It should be a shorter black guy.

[Parks]

Kevin Hart.

[Corey]

I'm watching that one first.

[Joe Budden]

I want to see that, bro.

[Corey]

Cat Williams.

[Joe Budden]

And I ain't even get to what the funniest part would be to me. What let Taylor Swift do. I will always love you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm here for it. She going to smoke Swifties. Swifties unite.

[Parks]

She going, what?

[Corey]

You're a swifty.

[Joe Budden]

You're a swifty. I don't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I hear a lot of judgment in that question.

[Corey]

Yeah, there is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

There's a lot of judgment. A lot of judgment. A lot of judgment.

[Joe Budden]

Dress like a swifty.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's fine. That's fine. Look, Taylor Swift is super talent, talented, and she's made some great albums. I like Folklore more than some of the mainstream albums, you know?

[Corey]

Oh, he's really getting into his swiftyism.

[Parks]

Take it away and the play is gone.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey, but I'm not. I'm not.

[Joe Budden]

Shake it off.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know the song now. You don't want to know in the song.

[Parks]

I do know the song.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Exactly.

[Parks]

My daughter loves the song, but go ahead.

[Joe Budden]

Just.

[Mal]

Your daughter, right?

[Parks]

Yeah, my girl don't.

[Mal]

With her. I want.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But you right about you.

[Parks]

I know.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And you know the remix. You know all that shit. Taylor Swift is super talented. Yes, I like her music. I don't. I'm not like a Stan. But I do like her music. And I think she gets too much criticism. I think she gets way too many awards. She's one of the people that get so many awards that people start hating on her as if she giving them to herself. Like, I ain't mad at her because she get awards that she don't deserve. You know what I mean? But I think she'd be great in the Bodyguard. The Bodyguard was made for a pop singer. It was for Diana Ross first, Right?

[Corey]

Do you listen to it in the little compact car you're writing like real life. The glove.

[Joe Budden]

Right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

By the way, it's not even a Galante. It's a mirage. I realized when I got downstairs, that's the little one. That's why y'all was so surprised. It was so big.

[Flip]

Yeah, it looked like a smart car.

[Joe Budden]

I feel like this contradicts your wallow point.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Uh oh, which part?

[Joe Budden]

I feel like there's a way to say what you're saying right now in a different way. Right. Like, it's important for black actresses to have prominent roles in blockbuster movies. And now you're just fine with Taylor Swift taking it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know why?

[Ish]

Because the.

[Corey]

Because she's not an actor.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Here's why. Here's why. Because I support. Unlike y'all, I believe in black men and support black men. When the movie was first made.

[Joe Budden]

When.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The movie was made, it was for wrong. When it was made, when the opposite. When the script was written, it was for Ryan O'Neal and Diana Ross. So that's what it became. In the 70s, written script was written like 40, 60, 40, 50 years ago. Hollywood wouldn't make it.

[Corey]

How do you have this information?

[Joe Budden]

Yo, he's the best.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So they keep making the films, right?

[Joe Budden]

And so.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But the idea was always that there'd be a racial back, you know, opposite race thing. So they've done it for black women two times. So I'm saying if you have. If they keep that pattern going, now you got a white woman. So now a black man finally gets a chance to represent on the main street.

[Corey]

They could go Black Panther, too, and do Neymar.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They could, but I think they're not. I think they're gonna go with a big, strong black man. A Jonathan Majors, a Michael B. Jordan, Aaron Pierre.

[Joe Budden]

What are you talking about? From Latin, P. Panther.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, he trying to say they go brown instead of black. But I'm saying, like. But who's the black? Kevin Costner. Right? That might be.

[Mal]

Man, they get the Rock to do that.

[Ish]

Wait, hold up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's black.

[Mal]

Hold up right there.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, you know how many people listen to this broadcast? Why you keep saying, like, man's name?

[Flip]

Cuz he's an actor before he's her man.

[Joe Budden]

That ain't true.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Who said that?

[Flip]

Okay, act. Ask him.

[Parks]

Oh, you ask him.

[Flip]

Do you want to be defined by your relationship or the work that you.

[Parks]

Put out, depending on who you're in a relationship with? A lot of got definitions.

[Ish]

Oh, you about to call with their name.

[Flip]

Tiana is amazing.

[Joe Budden]

So if you saw. What's his name? Aaron Perry.

[Parks]

Aaron Perry.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know if I ain't singing the J Hood song. Aaron Pierre. If you saw him, that's what you ask him. What, like how he wants to be defined by your job or by that.

[Ish]

Watch your mouth.

[Flip]

I'm not putting it like that at all right now.

[Joe Budden]

That's right. Get out of there.

[Flip]

I'm not like that at all.

[Joe Budden]

But if we're say that name again, though.

[Flip]

Okay, fine. Ap.

[Ish]

Oh.

[Flip]

Okay. Okay. All right. I'm thinking about.

[Ish]

You ain't learned.

[Flip]

I'm thinking about younger.

[Ish]

She from all them we go. Maybe if we go that brownstone. You sitting on the brownstone. You get kicked right off that brownstone, boy.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Rolling down. I'm Jo. Come on.

[Flip]

Anyways, if she. If we go older, more distinguished. Black Idris.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, that's a good one.

[Flip]

Idris would be great. Blair Underwood would be great. Mahar.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That guy.

[Ish]

Is.

[Parks]

Oh, y'all don't like him now?

[Flip]

No, I love him. I don't see him doing this role beneath him, actually.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He be all jokes aside. He would be a good body. He's tall. He's. He's all the things.

[Joe Budden]

Taller with us.

[Parks]

All the things.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All the things you want in that Kevin Costner movie checklist.

[Flip]

He is.

[Parks]

He get your whole checklist.

[Ish]

He filled my whole box.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He filled my whole box.

[Ish]

He's Mark. What?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm comfortable with myself.

[Ish]

I'm just saying some. I know, I know. I know.

[Parks]

He tall.

[Mal]

You could.

[Ish]

I know big.

[Corey]

He just pick him up off the ground a little bit.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know if he would do that.

[Ish]

If you can't beat him, you join him. I saw some recently. I saw some recently.

[Joe Budden]

Said he wanted to do be a podcaster.

[Parks]

Everybody want to be a podcaster.

[Ish]

Why you scratching your eyes for?

[Corey]

It's allergy season.

[Ish]

You got space for my. You got space.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's allergies.

[Ish]

You got space for him.

[Parks]

Pollen inside.

[Ish]

You got space for him.

[Joe Budden]

Lord me? No. I'm happy with my cash.

[Ish]

No, no, no. You got that. Come up here. Go from potter to month.

[Joe Budden]

Mark might have to kill Mark. Mark. Mark might have to end him.

[Ish]

Got to kill that Mark.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Drink this, right?

[Ish]

You know Mel. Mel turn on you quick. Hey, Michon. She went with no.

[Parks]

Your last name.

[Joe Budden]

It's up. Have women to do that.

[Ish]

Mel. Ali. And she don't care one thing about her. She don't care.

[Flip]

I wouldn't turn on Mark.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, you, Mel. You turn quick turn.

[Ish]

You was a turn cold.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Mel never turn on me.

[Flip]

I would never turn on him. I just.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I'M just kidding.

[Flip]

Facts. I just have made it clear that.

[Ish]

Wait, wait, hold on.

[Joe Budden]

Wait.

[Flip]

Yeah, I'm skating right over that. I just made it clear that, like, you know, I like his face and body of work.

[Ish]

You going to learn, brother. When I sit there in the cold mud, somebody I gonna. You up.

[Joe Budden]

Stop.

[Parks]

They be hearing you be saying.

[Mal]

They.

[Ish]

Gonna treat you like the a.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They.

[Flip]

Any.

[Joe Budden]

Any who moving right along. Even though that was funny, I want to stay there, but I. I'd be viewed away. Joe. Is everyone here familiar with the Carmelo Anthony story? Not the basketball player, the young black man that they arrested for the murder of Austin Metcalfe. Austin Metcalf. Who? His bail was a million dollars. And recently the judge, black lady judge, shout out to her, reduced it to 250.

[Ish]

And now he's been released on house arrest.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, he's on house arrest. He's on house arrest. This story, there's a new fact that we find out new facts about this story every week. There's a lot of outrage behind where does everybody here stand?

[Parks]

What's the new fact?

[Ish]

That's what we need to know first.

[Joe Budden]

Well, every week there's been a new fact about where this fight started, who started it, who was supposed to be in that section of the school. Like, who was in the right, who's in the wrong. Just new facts.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think for me, the first part about it for me is about the bail. Reducing the bail I think is important. And this is a reminder to black people especially, I'll say, even just activists and social justice minded people, but also black people, bail is not a punishment. A lot of times we root for the people. We don't like to get high bails. Like when a cop shoots somebody, give him $10 million bail, give him $50 million bail. The point of bail is not to be a punishment. You're innocent until proven guilty. And for every killer cop that gets an exorbitant bail, for every white racist that gets an exorbitant bail, bail. Thousands of our children get bails that are so high that we can't get out. 80% of people in jail around America are there. Not because of any threat to safety, not because of any mental illness issue, not because of bureaucratic issue. 80% of the people in jails around this country are there because they don't have enough money for bail. Not talking about prison. I'm talking about jail. This is before trial, before you've been convicted. That means 80% of the people who are in jail are there because. Because they're too poor to not be in jail.

[Joe Budden]

Just the Kalief Browder. Right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The Khalif Browder is a perfect example. They're literally too poor to not be in jail. And that is a crisis. So the next time y'all root for the cop that kills somebody or the crazy person that does some awful shit to get the. To just get roofed with bail, understand that that same thing is gonna happen to your children or somebody like Carmelo Anthony, who, from what I see, was dealing with something that's far more complicated than what the initial news story and initial police reports were saying.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

So let me ask you. I. I disagree with Mark's point.

[Joe Budden]

Which point?

[Parks]

The judges do use bail as punishment.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm saying they shouldn't.

[Parks]

No, but you said it's not being issued.

[Flip]

It shouldn't be.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I'm saying. I'm saying bail is not a punishment. I'm saying theoretically, yes.

[Parks]

Oh, okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay. Judges used all the time.

[Parks]

They definitely use that shit as punishment. We've seen same judge, same court, same this, same that, same charge. And one person's bail will be a million dollars. Somebody else's bail will be a hundred.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I told you, they gave my brother a million.

[Parks]

You get what I'm saying? But your brother got it. But what I'm saying.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Not that brother.

[Parks]

I'm joking. I'm joking. But. So we've definitely seen that use as punishment. And I think that against us, puff, puff, ain't no. Well, it could be a flight risk, but you get what I'm saying? Like, some of that shit is. Is a little crazy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Here's the other thing. Statistics show that an exorbitant bail doesn't really make people more likely to come back to court. You get what I'm saying?

[Joe Budden]

So.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So it doesn't even work for the thing they say it's for. They're like, oh, if we just make. If you owe this much, you'll definitely come back to court. People who don't come to court don't.

[Parks]

Come to court, cannot come to court.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's true. All right, so that's the bail aside.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like the other piece of it is. I think, again, there's always a rush to judgment. And I get social media has an impulse and even news reports. Now, there was a time when there were only three news channels. You were time to work a story and develop a story and get the facts on a story. Now the goal is not to get the story right.

[Parks]

It's to get the story first and sell it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. And getting the Story first almost always happens at the detriment of the victims. And in this case, the victim might be Carmelo. So I'm not saying just the person who gets killed. I'm saying whoever's being wronged. The less information we have, the more easy it is for them to fly under the radar. So I think, again, this is just a reminder, as Joe was saying, every week new facts come out. And those new facts make this a whole different story than what people thought it was initially. That's all.

[Parks]

So what was the initial perception?

[Ish]

That this black kid killed this white kid because he accidentally moved? He didn't belong under. Under the. In the. In that area that he was in that section that he was sitting in. And basically that he was being a bully.

[Flip]

Then when the black kid being the.

[Ish]

Bully, of course, that was the perception. Yeah. That the black kid was just being the hooligan.

[Parks]

And now because all the story was.

[Joe Budden]

Is black kid murders white kids in Texas.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And in Texas, we're in Texas.

[Joe Budden]

So as the details continued to come out, it was like, okay, he wasn't. Oh, shit. It wasn't just the white boy. It was the white boy and his brother. Oh, shit. These guys are six, Right. Oh, shit. He wasn't supposed to be right there. And I said, like, that's what I mean. Facts just keep coming. I wanted to report on this weeks ago, but too many facts were coming out. So I'm like, let me slow down.

[Parks]

Here to be irresponsible.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, but it's Texas. The story basically is just about a black man's right to defend himself in Texas.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right. Which doesn't exist. Exists. Right. Texas and Florida love the.

[Flip]

Stand your ground.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Until you're black. Until.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Mal]

So you blacking the victim is white.

[Joe Budden]

Yep.

[Parks]

That's crazy.

[Ish]

They were showing, like, Carmelo Anthony with the pictures with guns and stuff like that. And then people came out and showed the brothers with guns and stuff like that.

[Flip]

Texas is Texas. Yeah, exactly.

[Ish]

They were trying to just paint him as some sort of bad cat.

[Parks]

And that's what the media does. The media shout out to the people.

[Ish]

That came forward and shout out to.

[Joe Budden]

The young man that lost his life as well.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Of course.

[Joe Budden]

Right. Like, that's important as they clear up the facts of the matter.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, it depend on what he did. I need more information to know if I'm shouting about.

[Ish]

Okay, Mark, easy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

If you instigate a fight that leads to a death sequence, I'm not necessarily feeling sorry for you, but what if.

[Ish]

It was the other way around?

[Mal]

But we don't know that just yet.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's why I said I need more. I said I need more information to make a decision about how I feel.

[Ish]

What if it was the other way around? What do you mean? What if the black kid got killed by the white kid? Would you feel the same and the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Black kid, like, jumped him or started.

[Mal]

I don't know at the moment.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Again, I'm not saying they did that. I'm saying I need more information to make a judgment on how I feel about that death. That's all I'm saying. If somebody stuck you up and you shot them, am I supposed to feel bad about the person trying to stick you up? You be confusing me. I don't know the story. I'm saying I don't know what really happened. So I'm not. I'm not one of the people to be like rest in peace to everybody involved. I believe in violence. I don't believe in non violence when.

[Ish]

It comes to women.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, no, no, we're getting somewhere now. All right. I believe in violence.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I believe in violence. Right. I don't believe in peace as the ultimate answer to everything. I don't believe in nonviolence as an overarching philosophy.

[Ish]

Malcolm X.

[Joe Budden]

Well, let me. Let me land with what I was trying to say first.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Sorry. Yeah, you.

[Joe Budden]

I was trying to say. Well, I'm gonna say rest in peace to the young man because I never want to see a life lost, no matter what happens, especially a child as a dad, like. Yeah. So I want to start with rest in peace to the young man. But why you may see some black people feeling better about this than we normally do when these stories break is because they typically have a really sorry ending. Fatal, fatal ending for the black person involved. True.

[Mal]

That's a fact.

[Joe Budden]

Like, two things could be true. And I think a lot of people were really just happy. Go ahead.

[Parks]

And no. And then after the black person is fatally injured, the white person typically gets a slap on the wrist. Or some don't really suffer for their actions.

[Joe Budden]

We ain't got to go that far. It was the two black brothers that was killed in the sundown town. What was that in Georgia that the cops was saying that everybody, the whole town was saying they was on their way to the airport and the cops said they. They detoured and they had the gun on them. And it was all types of lies on these two kids.

[Ish]

Two young kids, two brothers. Right?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

No, it don't stop. So I think it's a two part. Like, yo, if you did some and they gave you life. It would give people a little bit of reassurance when they get 18 months and then gets 12 of that suspended. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like that shit be trash. That's the trash part.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like the.

[Parks]

When the cops do some bullshit, they don't ever get to suffer any consequence.

[Joe Budden]

Right. You know what I'm saying?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's rare. It's rare.

[Parks]

Even if they get, you know what the maximum is for cops, five years.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think George Floyd's killer got a little bit. Went down. He got a little bit more. Derek Chauvin. But to your point, that took a whole nationwide. No, he got roofed. But because he got the federal and the state charge. I'm saying. But it took a whole nation to watch this shit. It happened during the pandemic to get that kind of perverting. I mean, she's right. It just takes so much to get justice. And that's why I don't lose no sleep over there.

[Mal]

Showman got 21.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

21, yeah.

[Parks]

Children, you know, and we.

[Ish]

So real quick you brought up. We don't know the update on the brothers that got killed. We don't know the update or anything.

[Joe Budden]

There was an update.

[Ish]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

There was an update. I think they may be investigating now or viewing it as a homicide. Nobody believed the story. Story of these two. These two young black boys unalive themselves on the way to the airport. They had a gun. It was like.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's crazy.

[Joe Budden]

So. So I think they are investigating it as opposite. We can look that up to fact check it because it is important and I'm going off my memory, but I watch a lot of news, so my memory is kind of good with that also. Kyren Lacey, rest in peace. Yeah. Let's get. Let's get all. All of the sad news out of the way. Kyren Lacey is the. Yeah. Star wide receiver who got in that car accident. Accident in December where someone lost their life and he fled the scene. And they're saying that now they're reporting that there was an argument. Allegedly because it's too early. But they're reporting that there was an argument, there was a high speed chase and that he unalived himself at the end of it. I don't know that to be factual, but that is what's being reported. It's still.

[Mal]

Rest in peace.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, rest in peace for sure.

[Joe Budden]

Sure for sure.

[Mal]

Even without all the facts.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like that's the easy rest in peace for me.

[Parks]

That one's crazy.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. I just want to be careful of. Of Reporting that people unalived when and that might not.

[Mal]

Yeah, we don't know.

[Joe Budden]

Don't know yet.

[Mal]

Yeah, you said it.

[Joe Budden]

Right.

[Mal]

This is what they're reporting.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, they put that on the two young black boys that was headed to the airport. So let's just wait and see. But rest in peace to Kyron Lacy. Extremely sad story from what I'm hearing. An amazing person and highly regarded potential first round pick. Right? Just sad. Just sad all around the board.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Justin.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, go ahead.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So we talk about sad stuff. Can we move to something a little bit more upbeat?

[Joe Budden]

Sure.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

There's been this thing going around the Internet and I've heard some reports that it may not be true, but I think it's still worth talking about either way. Right. There's a person who made a cake and for her birthday party, the cake said happy birthday. And then on the cake it said, best pussy ever.

[Mal]

They said, her dude made that cake for her.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Her dude made it for her. Yeah, right. Her dude made it for her.

[Joe Budden]

Right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So she's grown.

[Mal]

She's 27.

[Joe Budden]

Are they together?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Yeah, but that's her boyfriend.

[Mal]

The best was a haha moment.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's not the ear. That ain't the issue. Right, so the girl gets a text message from her dad who was at the party, and she sends a message to her dad saying, I wanted to wait till after everyone left to ask, why did you get mad and leave? It was a gathering for my birthday and it hurt my feelings to see you just up and leave. He writes back, china spelled C, H, Y, N, A, which to me answers all these questions. That shit was highly disrespectful. I'm sorry. If you name your daughter China with a Y, you have to have certain expectations.

[Ish]

There's a ceiling.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

There's a ceiling.

[Ish]

Stop it.

[Mal]

You can't do that, man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Have you ever.

[Parks]

You know what? China.

[Ish]

Come on, talk to China.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

China? Yes, China. China.

[Corey]

Why you say it like that?

[Joe Budden]

China.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I said it with the word China was That shit was highly disrespectful. The cake, I mean, your mother and I were there and that's the cake your friend decided to pick up. That was very disrespectful. You're still my little girl. At the end of the day. She says, it wasn't that deep. I just feel like you're being dramatic as always. It's obvious you don't like him.

[Flip]

Was the cake in the shape of her vagina?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No Shake of the round cake.

[Mal]

It just was written on there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It just said best Pussy.

[Joe Budden]

There's a lot of flip questions too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

On a low.

[Joe Budden]

On a low. You do.

[Flip]

What, you mean legit?

[Joe Budden]

It could have been a cake in.

[Flip]

The shape of a fucking vagina.

[Joe Budden]

What?

[Ish]

It could have been what you did. You should watch this.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He says it's not about not liking someone, Chyna. It's about decent damn respect. You think your father wants to eat a birthday cake that showcases how good his daughter's private part is? No. Hell no. He puts it in caps. She writes back. I still don't understand why you're mad. It was just a joke, but okay. I'm 27, not a child. He said it's about respect, Chyna. Look, we'll talk more about it tomorrow. She said there's nothing left to talk about. About honesty. Now, again, some of the Internet people are saying that this is. This is manufactured. But either way, I'm curious.

[Joe Budden]

No.

[Mal]

No way.

[Corey]

Pops is overreacted, man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hell no. Is it?

[Joe Budden]

No. Even if the Internet. Even if this is, man, it's still a conversation.

[Ish]

Now, I'm with the father on this one.

[Corey]

She's 27 years old.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I want to know where the girl dads are on this.

[Joe Budden]

I'm shutting up.

[Ish]

I don't give a. You can't listen.

[Parks]

You don't do no like that.

[Ish]

Not in my. Not when I'm there. Don't holler at my daughter. Daughter's private parts or how good it is. Who the you think you are even.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

10 years from now.

[Ish]

I don't give a. Have some respect. I wouldn't do that to. To your parents.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Your dog. You could be 40 and your mother and father at the party and the gives you a cake that says the best dick sucker ever.

[Ish]

Or the best head ever. Come on.

[Corey]

That's a little different.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Dick sucker. Every is a little different.

[Joe Budden]

No, it is not.

[Corey]

Dick sucker.

[Flip]

Still more flagrant fellatio would have been better.

[Corey]

Yeah. Still work.

[Mal]

Let's keep it to this cake.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Let's keep it right here.

[Parks]

I'm opposed to that.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, can y'all have the fight?

[Parks]

I'm opposed to that. I just believe in decency. Again, for somebody's. If you had that cake at home when she came home, that's different. But if you had a cake in a public spot and my family is here, my older aunts and like that. Yeah, like, I think that is disrespectful.

[Ish]

You come from a family of older people, man. Don't do that. We don't stand with that. You wouldn't like nobody doing no like that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, yeah. I think it's disrespectful.

[Ish]

Oh, yeah, I think it's disrespectful.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't do that to me. I think that. I think.

[Ish]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Mal]

I think it's disrespectful. But at the same token, I do think the dad is like going a little too far. Like leave the party.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, I want to see you in 22 years.

[Mal]

Listen, I might change then. I'm talking about right now. I'm just looking at that situation.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. What would you do? You stay.

[Mal]

I don't know.

[Corey]

I can see not eating a cake.

[Mal]

I wouldn't eat a slice. I'm definitely not eating.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm about to say, would you eat the cake?

[Mal]

I'm not eating no cake. No, no, thank you. I don't want no cake. I'm gonna have a little attitude in the cut. Like, man, come on.

[Parks]

And the wife was there too.

[Mal]

Come on, man.

[Parks]

So it's not just the dad. The mother and the father were there. Come on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Do you eat the cake? Ish.

[Parks]

I would have left like the father.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, you left. You stayed. But don't eat the cake.

[Mal]

The age to me, like again, if she was 18, even though that's still. Still grown by today, I have more of a problem. She damn near 30B. So I'm not tripping as bad.

[Parks]

So your man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You don't feel disrespected.

[Parks]

So your man should. 30.

[Mal]

I'm not gonna feel disrespected.

[Parks]

Her man should have some decency and some respect. That's my personal.

[Ish]

I'm with you on that.

[Mal]

I'm not disrespecting.

[Joe Budden]

He said girl dads.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Now I want to know what the non girl dads. I was just thinking, those of you who can make boys, what do you say?

[Joe Budden]

Oh, that's me.

[Parks]

Pardon me.

[Joe Budden]

Excuse me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Let me get through.

[Joe Budden]

I don't think there's any wrong answering this true. I think that if she's 27, then it's time to start separating the birthday celebration that mom and dad can come to versus the ones that's for me and my friends who out out and react. If she knew that dad was coming and clearly by what she's saying to him in the text, he's been a tight ass.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right.

[Joe Budden]

This is not a surprise. He been on. I'm getting that from what she said to him.

[Mal]

Yeah. She said, you're overreacting like you always do.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right.

[Joe Budden]

And you know, and it sound like the. The boyfriend might be a comedian. It's Got to be somebody job to, to, to mediate this thing, to break the ice or, or to say or.

[Parks]

You know what it sound like? It sounds like a generational disconnect because the shit that she's saying, yo, you ODing as you always do. He might be looking at that shit like, no, I'm not ODing. It's just certain shit that we did in my day that y'all do today that's disrespectful. Or it could be considered disrespectful by somebody in that age group.

[Joe Budden]

I agree with the dad, but not for the same reasons as, as the girl dads. Like, if I'm a dad and I'm in that spot, I don't think that somebody should be put. I'm put, even if true about my daughter on a cake for a party to see.

[Parks]

Yeah, I'm saying that.

[Mal]

And that's what, that's what it says. That's the generational.

[Parks]

It's a decency thing.

[Mal]

That's funny to them. That's funny.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Let me ask you, is this gendered at all? And I'm not saying it is. I'm genuinely curious. Like, for example, if you're saying son's girlfriend writes best dick ever is a.

[Parks]

Bad idea, it's a bad idea.

[Ish]

I would like that.

[Parks]

It's a bad idea.

[Joe Budden]

But see, women know that. So women wouldn't do so women would never put best dick ever on the best dick ever's birthday cake.

[Corey]

To be clear, this, this is a birthday party and not like a engagement party or something.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's just a birthday party. Yeah, it's a birthday party.

[Corey]

So I think that might adjust.

[Mal]

China, China, China. Not doing that. They're not doing that.

[Joe Budden]

That was just you that ran into car house ready to tell.

[Flip]

But stop, stop, stop it. It's either way, it's up you, you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You agree it's up my. Would you be embarrassed by that? Like if you do. You're 45.

[Flip]

Yes.

[Parks]

You're 45 years old.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not a 44.

[Parks]

Pardon me?

[Joe Budden]

Respect me.

[Parks]

I'm saying I didn't, I didn't know.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's a long five months.

[Parks]

Yo, look, right, if, if, how would your mom feel if one of your female friends. No, I'm saying every one of your females.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't want to use me because me and my mom are kind of close.

[Parks]

I mean, you just listen what I was about to say and your mother is one of the more open minded younger persons.

[Joe Budden]

My mom wouldn't care, but she would Judge the girl.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Exactly right.

[Joe Budden]

My mom wouldn't care that you would daddy, but she would judge the girl.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Parks]

And she'll tell you later. Joey.

[Joe Budden]

I can hear her now. Joey.

[Parks]

Dead ass. Yeah. What are we talking about? And again, your mother and your father are more open minded.

[Joe Budden]

They're more current.

[Parks]

Progressive.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, progressive.

[Mal]

I agree.

[Parks]

So that's what I'm saying. I think you still look at that with a level of decorum that.

[Mal]

The person wouldn't walk out though, would they?

[Joe Budden]

I also wouldn't let. Do you think I sound stupid?

[Mal]

Do you think they will walk out?

[Parks]

No, no.

[Joe Budden]

My parents ain't leaving.

[Parks]

Parents ain't doing.

[Joe Budden]

They gonna stay to see if there's more they need to judge.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, that's true.

[Joe Budden]

My parents are. If you're stupid enough to do that, you might have to watch also though, just on some. I'm not letting people surprise me with a cake at my birthday party.

[Ish]

True.

[Joe Budden]

I'm never letting that happen.

[Ish]

Especially.

[Joe Budden]

Especially if my parents and is here.

[Parks]

Which I ain't do the birthday cake.

[Joe Budden]

What we thinking? You think you can see when Mel. Mel. White titties a white ass in here for my birthday? I'm not letting nobody do that.

[Flip]

The thought that counts.

[Joe Budden]

No, it wasn't the thought that counts.

[Flip]

I thought I was getting a black ass.

[Parks]

It was our money that count.

[Mal]

I thought I was paying for them.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You open. You open. Hold on, hold on. I'm not even talking about the money. Money party. Which I still don't can't wrap my mind around. But it's easy to wrap your mind.

[Mal]

We got scammed.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Listen, I ain't gonna say you got scammed, but you definitely got burned. You definitely got. But you got burnt.

[Flip]

Okay, can you finish your thought?

[Ish]

Who you talking to?

[Parks]

She thought she was getting a black ass. A fat ass in the cake.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But you. I mean you got little white titties.

[Parks]

With some little ass white butt.

[Ish]

I'm gonna.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You opened the box but you opened the box right before you brought it in.

[Ish]

It's the thought that count.

[Flip]

By that point it was too late.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But you. So you.

[Mal]

You brought. And had to bring something.

[Flip]

It was very short notice. Nobody had decided to do all for his birthday. So I. That was the prevailing attitude.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So you crowd sourced.

[Flip]

I crowd sourced and decided not only that to like also order food.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Go fun mail.

[Mal]

That's not true.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Which part?

[Flip]

It's not. You don't have a microphone. So whatever. Whatever you're saying doesn't even matter.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Corey's off Mike saying that other things Were done. I'm not saying it's true. I'm just wanting just. The audience knows what's happening.

[Corey]

There was other desserts.

[Flip]

No, no, forget the desserts. We got lunch that day.

[Ish]

The.

[Flip]

The bread pudding, the wings, all the. The fries that came that day too.

[Ish]

From you?

[Flip]

Yes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Did you pay for it?

[Flip]

Yes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

How much did that total?

[Flip]

All of it together was like $800.

[Joe Budden]

Mel, are you a crackhead right now?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You say including the cost of the.

[Joe Budden]

Cake, how much was it worth?

[Flip]

It was like five something.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So you said you spent three and then they spent five.

[Parks]

No, that's not what she's saying.

[Flip]

I crowdish Ish, please. I crowd source. I put in 100.

[Parks]

You put what?

[Flip]

I crowdsourced and you took your 100. Why are we backing? Why are we backing?

[Joe Budden]

I was just trying. I would not let. I try not to let people surprise.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Me for reasons like that. Cuz you end up right.

[Joe Budden]

Unless we had Johnny Rockets or some where they gonna come out and sing the song.

[Mal]

Oh, that's crazy.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, you got me some pink.

[Mal]

All right.

[Joe Budden]

Crazy. But like a friend, please.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I don't trust my friends that much either.

[Mal]

And it's always that one friend that wanted to go overboard and do some.

[Parks]

Get some white titties.

[Ish]

I think Ish would get a good cake. I think free to get a good cake.

[Mal]

I don't think Ish would get a good cake.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I do.

[Mal]

I think Ish would plan to get a good cake and wait too late.

[Ish]

To get the cake and get the fuck up for carbon.

[Mal]

They'd be like, yo, dawg, I was gonna get you a cake, but I caught them motherfuckers too.

[Parks]

Couldn't get a cake.

[Joe Budden]

Now even if Ish got the cake, he ain't walking in the. He came to my birthday party when it was over. I mean, that was a great time to get cake. Like if he bought the cake at like 1am yo, like when it was over.

[Parks]

Exaggerating. Yo, yo, what's wrong with your brain? My. I came in there when it was over.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Ish]

Y'all just said you came late, but now it is.

[Mal]

It was late. It wasn't over.

[Joe Budden]

Kept me going. I paid for overtime, cuz my man just got here.

[Parks]

Them hadn't got a salad when I got there.

[Joe Budden]

Food did come out later.

[Ish]

Appetizer.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I think I'm doing catering this time.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, that's good.

[Joe Budden]

I think I'm going just pick a spot and do like catering.

[Mal]

That'd be fire.

[Parks]

It's hit or miss.

[Mal]

Black caterer.

[Joe Budden]

For sure.

[Mal]

There you go. I just want to make sure who else sticking to the script.

[Joe Budden]

Let me not. Let me not front. Like I don't hire a good laughter too sometime. Careful. That's another one where I'm on my wallow.

[Ish]

Shit, you turning 45 though.

[Joe Budden]

So what that mean?

[Ish]

Oh, you still going to do a party?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I'm saying to eat at the party.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm still have a caterer. Yo, you should call my cousin. It's so funny. Remember we. When I first came in, we was talking about, you don't want my cousin to do pods giving cause somebody might smash my cousin. Turns out she's cooked for you before.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, fuck. I thought you were about to say.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Turns out.

[Joe Budden]

It turns out she's ready.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes, I actually it was 50. 50.

[Joe Budden]

What?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You already did.

[Ish]

Oh, shit. Wait.

[Joe Budden]

You said she cooked already.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She said, yeah, I cooked for him in Miami.

[Parks]

Oh, she gave neck bones.

[Ish]

Oh, shit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I said. I said. I said she.

[Joe Budden]

She. She didn't watch the show.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She was just like, you tell Joe I said hi.

[Mal]

I was like, yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was like, how the do you know Joe?

[Joe Budden]

What's your cousin name?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Chef Santiago.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah, that tracks. Y'all said that's racist.

[Mal]

No, that's you.

[Joe Budden]

There's a word for some of that with Jo.

[Mal]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She end up cooking for Kyrie, I think.

[Joe Budden]

No, I know exactly who he's talking.

[Mal]

I bet you do.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. She was like, yeah, tell Joe I said how? She said, you know, I used to cook for. I cooked for Miami one time.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, and she smoked that at the satire.

[Parks]

Pan American.

[Joe Budden]

It's just food, Mark.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, who's this food? Ham hocks, yams, yam.

[Joe Budden]

I love people.

[Mal]

We know, we know.

[Joe Budden]

Anyway, what was you trying to say?

[Ish]

Could you just open up a.

[Parks]

What are you doing with the turkey leg Hut.

[Ish]

You opening up wine.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, do you do this?

[Ish]

Look, she bought a wine bottle and popped it open during the broadcast.

[Parks]

Yo, you snitching.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't give off that snitching.

[Joe Budden]

Why you be on male body like that? As much as you get up and go do leave for 40 minutes, I'm.

[Ish]

About to do it again. Keep hyping. Keep hyping everybody up and that. I'm do it again. You you talking about? I'm talking to be respectful, man. Chill out.

[Joe Budden]

Excuse me, sir. I'm sorry.

[Ish]

I got a problem with that. Oh, you thought. You get me. You thought I was never up. That's fire. I'm a fan of that you to go See?

[Joe Budden]

I'm sorry, I have to wake you. You a doctor?

[Ish]

Yeah. That's from that old movie. I know that movie. That's from Captain Heburn or one of them shits.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right?

[Parks]

What movie that's from?

[Ish]

I don't know.

[Joe Budden]

Airplane, I think.

[Corey]

Airplane.

[Ish]

All right, what else we got?

[Joe Budden]

What else we got? What else we got here?

[Corey]

Y'all watch Black Mirror yet?

[Flip]

Yes, sorry.

[Corey]

Emphatically.

[Flip]

I mean, I watched the first two episodes.

[Corey]

The first two episodes?

[Flip]

Yeah. I had to take a break after the first two episodes cuz that was a lot.

[Parks]

What season is this?

[Mal]

Seven. Seven and it's six episodes?

[Corey]

Yeah, maybe that sounds about right.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Good.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I mean, I'm still on one.

[Joe Budden]

I had to.

[Mal]

I fell asleep last night.

[Corey]

What is up?

[Flip]

One is.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't get there. I could tell it's going and I didn't finish it. Yeah.

[Corey]

Oh, okay. Let's watch it.

[Joe Budden]

All right.

[Mal]

No.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Flip]

All right.

[Corey]

I guess we can wait to talk about.

[Joe Budden]

But I do hear that this Black Mirror is a lot better than last Black man. Absolutely hate it.

[Corey]

It's definitely better. There's a couple of them to me.

[Parks]

That you watched the whole season already.

[Corey]

All of them?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Oh, you jumped. Okay.

[Corey]

Absolutely.

[Mal]

I just wanna. Since we talking shows. I know it's. Oh, I want to thank y'all. Yellowstone was absolutely. I love when y'all give me a show and I'm like, yeah, yeah, I was right on that one. I'm in. I'm in the last season now. And good looks. That is amazing.

[Flip]

I couldn't do it.

[Corey]

You gotta try it again.

[Ish]

You.

[Flip]

I couldn't do it because the first 10 minutes there's a horse dying and I just couldn't get past it.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah.

[Mal]

Impact. You watch where people die. Eye.

[Ish]

She care more about animals.

[Flip]

Yes, yes.

[Ish]

These humans.

[Mal]

She care about animals more than humans, though.

[Ish]

Animals raise you. We see Daisy, girl, you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You want some twat like Daisy look hungry right now.

[Ish]

What's that? Narnia?

[Flip]

Stop talking about. She does not look hungry.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Daisy. Look. Daisy went in my pocket.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Y.

[Ish]

Well, wait, hold on. That must be. No, I changed.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You taste a familiar smell. No, Uncle Mark. I knew where the joke was going. It's fine. Yo. It's fun. And it's all. It's all jokes and stuff, but it's actually mad funny because first of all, Flip was on fire last Patreon.

[Mal]

What?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And I mean, like, we were in tears. It was some classic shit. It was some classic shit. Like he's a fucking genius, I always say. I Tell people, like, Flip is an improvisational genius, but that shit was amazing. But the edits that came out had people. People doing all kinds of crazy speculation about what was what. We deleted and some of the shit was wild. I was like. I didn't. This is my first time seeing that, where, like, when the edits come out, they start. I mean, they was guessing the wildest shit. They thought my wife was about to jump bell. They thought. I mean, just crazy, improbable, impossible shit. I was like, that shit crazy. Did y'all. Did y'all know?

[Joe Budden]

No, that's crazy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That is crazy, but preposterous. Lots of people want to jump melt. No, but in all seriousness, like, that. Is that some normal?

[Ish]

Like, is what normal?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Did the fans speculate that much on the edits?

[Parks]

What?

[Corey]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Mal]

Let me tell you.

[Joe Budden]

I warned you about this.

[Ish]

Hey, you know what's even worse? I speculate on the edits. That's the worst thing. I'm an edit speculator. So what I'm saying is that while I do want to respect things, I'm gonna be respectful.

[Parks]

You are a nut.

[Ish]

Boy, we just having fun.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I love it all, man Energy.

[Ish]

In the room be tense. Yo, stick it in. German guard dogs. So we just having fun. So, yes, there's a lot of speculation and we played into narratives and had fun. But, you know, shout out to Parks for the wonderful edit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, he did a yo, bang up job. Y. That shit.

[Joe Budden]

Bang up job.

[Ish]

Speaking of bang up. Outstanding. Yo, man, I ain't going to lie.

[Joe Budden]

You, you.

[Ish]

You officially. I called Mel. I said, man, good job.

[Flip]

I appreciate you.

[Ish]

You just. You just accept faith.

[Parks]

These guys are nuts.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Sure.

[Joe Budden]

Do I want to congratulate Rory for winning the Masters. Round of applause.

[Corey]

Sure.

[Joe Budden]

Shout out to Rory. I think this first time ever winning the Masters.

[Parks]

Rory golf.

[Ish]

Like that. You be dog whistling.

[Joe Budden]

I got Rory coming back.

[Ish]

He dog whistling a. We fine with that.

[Joe Budden]

Boy, what is wrong with you?

[Ish]

Stop.

[Joe Budden]

Stop.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Dog whistling.

[Ish]

Other boy.

[Joe Budden]

The other white Rory that won the Masters.

[Ish]

We don't know. We thought Rory got the master. Orange yellow. What's his team Orange? What's their name?

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God.

[Parks]

Emotional.

[Ish]

Emotional arm. Shout out to them is a golf award. Oh, my. I thought he was a music award tournament. I thought he got Rory on the Masters. And emotional orange.

[Flip]

I'm with you. I. I was.

[Ish]

Thank you, man.

[Mal]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Budden]

Y'all two would be the first to know if Rory was coming back.

[Ish]

Oh.

[Joe Budden]

No, you wouldn't find out just on air or you might.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Look, he gotta Sit somewhere.

[Parks]

Knowing you. Knowing you.

[Ish]

No, no, no. And take a guess. Whatever.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Ish]

Hey, yo, you should live with that. But guess what? I stayed with that, too. Let's get at him. It'll be worse. The I. I stopped making sure.

[Mal]

Hey, we doing. Congratulations. Congratulations. Named the VP of A and R over at Empire.

[Ish]

So shout out my guy. Man. Salute.

[Parks]

Word.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Salute.

[Corey]

Very well deserved.

[Joe Budden]

What else? What else? Shout out to Paige. Shout out to page. Number one pick in the WNBA draft. Hold up. Let's get the round of applause. Dallas had the first pick, if I'm not mistaken. The Dallas Wings. So shout out to Paige.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What's.

[Joe Budden]

What's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What's Paige's ceiling to y'all? Is Paige, like, going to be. Is it going to be some bird magic?

[Joe Budden]

She's.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I think so, too. I don't think she's Caitlyn, but I think she's right under.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, she's. She might be. I want to be respectful.

[Parks]

She not right under.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like I'm being respectful by saying right under.

[Parks]

She not right under.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think Caitlyn's generational.

[Parks]

So there you go.

[Corey]

For sure. But Paige is. Paige is good.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Paige is a beast.

[Parks]

Paige is good.

[Joe Budden]

But you think juju will. Will be a Caitlyn Jo.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

Juju. The one.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

But not Paige.

[Parks]

Not Paige.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think I take Caitlyn over juju, too.

[Ish]

Juju.

[Parks]

See, this is what I think. I think that. I think. I think that juju could get still even where she is today, exponentially better.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Even with the knee issue. You don't. You don't think it's going to compromise athleticism? That be interesting to see. I think juju's amazing. I think juju may end up being the second best player in the WNBA behind Caitlyn. You said Ms. Caitlyn.

[Parks]

Yeah, Caitlyn's there.

[Joe Budden]

Go.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Full handkerchief.

[Parks]

Caitlyn's different, bro.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I ain't seen nothing like Caitlyn.

[Mal]

She different.

[Parks]

Caitlyn could probably average like 6 with the men.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I ain't gonna go that far.

[Parks]

But she got range and she got handle.

[Joe Budden]

So the show that was all that was on. I just wanted to shout out Rory and Page. Page. There's nothing else there that I need to get out. Yeah, I think that's.

[Parks]

Yo, did. Is it true? I don't know if it's true. Did Angel Reese get traded?

[Joe Budden]

I haven't seen.

[Corey]

I haven't seen that.

[Mal]

I haven't seen nothing about that.

[Parks]

Okay. It just might be wrong, you know.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But I wouldn't trade. I would not trade Angel Reese if I. If I was Chicago, who should play for Chicago, right?

[Mal]

Yes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. I would not. I would not trade Andrew. I mean, I don't think she's. She's as good as these upper level players we're talking about, but she just brings so much to a team and.

[Corey]

She'S a different kind of player.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She's got a motor like crazy, you know, and she brings money and attention, I mean, to a league that needs it. I wouldn't give Angels. Angel's a beast too, for sure.

[Joe Budden]

Before we leave, I do want to take the time out to officially say that Rumnitty is the best battle rapper in the universe currently. From that, I'm excluding the Luxes and the Mooks and the people that have already kind of. It might really just be Lux and Mook that I'm excluding Surfs from that. So you haven't beaten Daylight, Surf and Daylight. Al excused. I'm not mad. I'm not mad at nobody catching an L to Rumnitty right now. That's what I'm trying to say. I've been outside for a lot of. The meteoric ride on Saturday was the Apollo event. I tip my hat to the people that threw that event. Chilla Jones, all the good people over there was in Houston. The Real Sick and Mack. What I liked was they had. They featured a lot of battlers from other leagues that you may not be all the way familiar with, like the Smack Niggas and made them face off against the Smack Niggas. So like I said, the Real Sick battled Mack. That was a real good battle.

[Mal]

Battle.

[Joe Budden]

I watched it. Real good battle. I watched it. Jada Nightwing and Ill Will. I wasn't all the way familiar with Jada Nightwing. That's my first time seeing him. Great, great performance. Was good to see. Daylight. Daylight sounded like daylight for three rounds. If you have. If you have enough time to sit and listen to what he was trying to do with the aliens in the Bible and yada yada, yada, yada.

[Mal]

Nah, I can't do it.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not mad at you.

[Mal]

Cannot do it.

[Ish]

Said I was after the Lux, but, you know, Gray goose, that was fire. I like luck. I mean, I like daylight. I think Daylight did great. I mean, I see what R R. I'm.

[Joe Budden]

I'm surprised that he took that battle. I'm surprised that Daylight took that battle before battling Lux.

[Ish]

No, you shouldn't be surprised. I Am though, cuz you need a warmup before you go against Lux. Lux is a highly anticipated battle.

[Joe Budden]

Lux did the same thing. I don't think Rum Nitty is a warm up. I think that's a blockbuster battle. Of course that, that has potential to not go your way. All the way. Right? So if all the hype in the world is here for 20 years for us to see you and Lux, give us you and Lux. Now they've taken some sting off what that battle means because Rum Nitty has in some people eyes, beaten them both. One, two, if your name is Daylight and Daylight, you my man, if your name is Daylight and you battling one of them punchline king type of niggas, what he did with the name Daylight for three rounds, some of that was some of the illest I've heard. Man. I ain't gonna lie.

[Ish]

Me too.

[Parks]

So, so is it unanimous that Rum Nitty won?

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Ish]

Okay, hold on.

[Joe Budden]

I don't want to say unanimous like I speak for the streets. Some people could have Daylight. The only debate that I see Is was it a 30 for Ryan from Nitty or did you get Daylight the third?

[Mal]

Was it, was it you saying you said the flip on the Daylight name, was it better than what Absol did when they battled?

[Joe Budden]

Yes. Oh, because it was crazy non stop. And some of them shits was unpredictable. Like at one point he was like, and I'm. I don't. I all these bars. At one point he was like, but I ain't gonna kill him no more gun bars. I'm too mature. I said, I'm too mature. I said, I'm too mature. And then he got into some shit about. But if I seen him when I was younger, I'd have stuck the knife in the back of the day. When I was young. But I'm not a kid anymore. He just thought it was like, like, oh shit, you pulling day. It was a lot of day flips in this. That some of them was unconditional, conventional. Okay, there's a lot more. I'll probably go pull the battle up. And then on Patreon explain more of them. Some of them day flips, I check it. What did that say about daylight savings? Oh, he said, ain't no daylight savings. Like I'm Arizona. And then he said, and I know such and such had a daylight savings ball hard, but times have changed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was bad. It was bad. Really, really bad.

[Ish]

Shout out to Rum Nitty. I think, I think Rum Nitty has proven himself.

[Mal]

You saw it.

[Ish]

I think Yes, I watch, I purchased it, I watched it. I think Rum Nitty has proven himself, you know, like one of the greats. You know, we give. I gave him a hard time for a lot of years, you know what I mean? But undeniable.

[Joe Budden]

And then I think Punch was there. He said something, something.

[Mal]

He flipped.

[Joe Budden]

Scissor, paper, rock into, into Punch, pay, scissor, something. He bugged out up there. Then he said, I'll come to the event you at even say what up to everybody. Even extend a hand to Punch.

[Ish]

Like Dawson.

[Joe Budden]

He, you know, I'm, I'm ruining these.

[Mal]

Lines because his, the setup and delivery is like the.

[Parks]

Boy, oh boy.

[Joe Budden]

I don't really know if I'm glad that Surf caught him when he wasn't doing this. I'm glad Surf has battled him already and ain't got to come home and be like, this is scary. This is spooky. Surf would still be scary, huh?

[Mal]

Surf would still be scary, but. Yeah, I get what you're saying though. It's just more of a fight.

[Joe Budden]

It would be scary.

[Parks]

It's more of a fight.

[Joe Budden]

But I, I've been outside for everybody's meteoric rise. Tay, rock, clips, verb, anybody you name. This one is different. Even Geechee. This one is different.

[Mal]

You say they announced Hitman?

[Joe Budden]

Hitman? Yeah. I'm never betting against Mook.

[Parks]

Ever.

[Joe Budden]

My days of betting against Mook are over and have been over since Soda Slaughter. Yeah.

[Parks]

Since Luxury.

[Mal]

Yeah, that, that was.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not bad.

[Parks]

I never seen nothing like that in my life.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Me neither.

[Mal]

Me neither. Hey, I, I, I got Hitman in this.

[Parks]

You got what?

[Mal]

I got Hitman in this.

[Parks]

In the battle.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Me too.

[Mal]

Yep.

[Joe Budden]

Why? Based on what?

[Mal]

I think Hitman got a point to prove. I think, I think he.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I just.

[Mal]

Think he got a point to prove.

[Parks]

He ain't have a point to prove last year too.

[Mal]

Yes. And that's the thing now, now y'all think I'm chump. A little bit. Like cuz he went in with a little bit more arrogance in his last two battles and now y'all think I'm chump or, you know, the, the, the other has gotten to my head. I'm, I'm, I'm too successful over here. I ain't really got it.

[Ish]

I love you see him versus all.

[Joe Budden]

Of that that I'm with is all of that existed with him versus Geechee and him versus, and him versus. I got brave for easy. Yeah.

[Mal]

So now the entire everybody is saying, yeah, this is, this is a cakewalk for Mook.

[Joe Budden]

Now.

[Mal]

So I think he has a point to prove. More than. More so than before.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And Mook might be overconfident from the last battle.

[Mal]

No, I'm never playing that cardio. There's no such thing as overconfident. If Mook is focused, he's a problem. Let's be clear.

[Parks]

That nigga's prepared, bro.

[Joe Budden]

If he's focused, he's the most prepared.

[Ish]

Yes, I think it's gonna be an.

[Joe Budden]

Ill battle, but I do think.

[Mal]

I think Hitman just. We gonna see a different hitman if you lose.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Lose?

[Joe Budden]

I'm not saying he lost. Some people say he lost to Geechee and Easy. I don't think you lose to those two and then turn around and beat Mook. True.

[Mal]

I think you can.

[Joe Budden]

Mook is not that type of. We've seen nothing in our lives to say that. Is what I'm saying.

[Ish]

True.

[Joe Budden]

We could be wrong. We just ain't seen nothing to support.

[Mal]

Mount Rush for a great battle.

[Joe Budden]

Ain't lost around since Iron Solomon, since before Iron Solomon.

[Mal]

That's a lie, bro.

[Parks]

Mooc is on Mount Rushmore.

[Joe Budden]

I know what you go, yeah, you have to be.

[Mal]

Oh, absolutely.

[Joe Budden]

You can't have a Mount Rushmore without anybody's Mount Rushmore.

[Mal]

I don't think anybody could have. You can't even have a Mount Rushmore or battle rap without Lux.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm gonna say Lux is on there too. Who else is on? Who else on the rest?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, you could.

[Mal]

Now it's a preference game after that. Now it's a preference game after that. Mooc and Lux.

[Joe Budden]

If.

[Mal]

If Mook and Lux are not on your. Your Mount Rushmore of battle rap, I don't even want to see your Mount Rushmore battle rap.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's fair.

[Mal]

I mean, it could mean something to you. Cool. I just don't want to see it.

[Joe Budden]

Before we go, did y'all hear John Morant's explanation for the grenade celebration?

[Corey]

No, I thought I did, but.

[Joe Budden]

Okay. Awesome. Awesome. I'm so glad. Is there more? He says it's not what people think. It's not what people think. The grenade celebration is him taking the words from his mouth.

[Corey]

Uhhuh.

[Joe Budden]

Throwing it out there and then blocking out the noise.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with him.

[Corey]

Yeah, come on.

[Parks]

I'm with him.

[Flip]

That's plausible.

[Joe Budden]

Come on.

[Mal]

I'm with him.

[Corey]

What was the acronym for?

[Mal]

Thug Truly Humble Under God.

[Corey]

Truly Humble Under God.

[Joe Budden]

Nity broke it down like that.

[Mal]

That's right.

[Parks]

There it is.

[Joe Budden]

I'm rolling.

[Mal]

I'm rolling.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Makes sense.

[Joe Budden]

To me, you still won't get any prime time games now next year. But I do like that this thing is going viral like it was a in China did it. It's a couple doing it. That viral. I like it. Chan is crazy.

[Mal]

I like it.

[Joe Budden]

And then blocking it out there.

[Mal]

I'm blocking the noise. I don't want to hear what y'all got to say about it. Good jock.

[Parks]

I ain't pull. I ain't pull.

[Joe Budden]

That's a good publicist.

[Mal]

That's crazy.

[Joe Budden]

That came up.

[Parks]

I ain't pull a pin out the grenade.

[Mal]

No, I sure didn't.

[Joe Budden]

Now that was the words from his mouth.

[Parks]

That's it. You know what I mean?

[Joe Budden]

That's it.

[Parks]

He had to pull them out.

[Corey]

Got to block out the noise.

[Parks]

That is nice.

[Corey]

Got to block out the noise.

[Joe Budden]

I don't have anything else for y'all. Y'all got anything for me?

[Mal]

No, no, no.

[Flip]

Patreon.

[Joe Budden]

Hey. Oh, they flew Brand new sir out of my hands Featuring m Hater, Friend of the show, Friend to the show Ego.

[Savon]

Traveled all the portions Made a lot of bad starts broke heart even when I sir maybe I'll be good I should be the one maybe one day or someday I want to run maybe the sun won't come down on maybe I'll be back we go ahead.

[Corey]

And.

[Savon]

Try to make you choose I could take it love is out of my head I remember flying scoring through the sky when I was shot down that didn't feel good don't know where I landed found that I was standing broke down maybe I'll wake up and still be the one maybe someday or one day I won't wanna come down on the truth maybe I'll be back to you we can try to make this work but we're taking a chance never second we we just trying to work this time might just find the perfect timing oh put the temperature just keep climbing on sky got a car you don't keep flying on I want it to work this time Want to make you mine and I may never be the man that you are we can try to make it right love been taking a chance Never said that we can't let go of the past Wish I could take it back but it's out of on my head.

[Joe Budden]

Brand new music for my guy, Sir Friend of the show, featuring Major. That record is called out of my hands off of the sir Deluxe, available in your phones and on dsps right this very second.

[Corey]

That was fire.

[Mal]

All right, man.

[Joe Budden]

They smoked that.

[Mal]

And news. In other news, this Just will not stop dropping heat Tory lanes, put out another two P2 pack. This one's called rather. Rather you than me Excuse me.

[Savon]

O in my bed like aunties and Mr. F come and let the concrete.

[Ish]

And mommy stop talking Coming with the damn team and mommy stop talking.

[Joe Budden]

See all.

[Savon]

Eyes that you can see Trying to get as close as two can be I'm up rather you than me.

[Joe Budden]

It.

[Savon]

Might be I get as close as to can be.

[Mal]

And that's rather you to me Tory Lanez. He's been dropping for, I want to say at least five months now. He's been dropping lost tapes, twitch tapes like that he's just been working on before he went in.

[Joe Budden]

Right.

[Mal]

They've been mixing them and putting them out. So this is one of those records that was dope. That was dope. He has a entire clip of just heat that he been letting go.

[Corey]

Speak Speaking about people that have been putting out a ton of music. Boldy James has been on a run. It's almost too much to keep up with. I'm playing something off of his project with vdon. The album is called Alphabet highway and the record is called Dr. Demento.

[Erickson]

A few knocks at the window.

[Joe Budden]

Where.

[Erickson]

We at I'm just a d selling dope in your town in hopes to take it up magnum 20 shots half empty box of bacon so never colored outside of the lines made back grand mocha ravioli seats in that GT but the paint crayola on that corner all night breaker Davis trying to make take my quota younger just got served as paperwork versus the state Dakota out here trying to ride my way but never face the flooding glow stick on my head might get on tip something like baby yoda diamondbacks fitted get you slid off by the paper soldiers like how much that you want to bet Bet I can snake a cobra speaking venom on my name mad at me they can't get over nor I'm in that HOV lane 10 bricks and gray October my remaker making the bend feel like I'm playing poker all these pissy huggies meant to plug he look like baby Joe brand new vision where I scrape that pot and make that y do yoga I'm from belvedere but the block I slap is say in do knocks at the window two spots on sorento blocking my kins up y in the stand up watching for the kick duck live on the six foot tied in the dis and Dr. Dementor few knocks at the window two spots on Sorrento blocking my kins up y stand up watching for the kick up laugh on the six and Dr. Demento Ko half a pound of gumbo from all the dry to French road it's trappers Alejandra don't even know your pedigree shout out G and mambo big bu with the extra cheese look like a rally combo welcome back baby power Pablo only my brother sponto most would have been fo BXR to the crossroads GXR two way do sexy for school craft enjoy road we move that back and morse code that's my M.O. you damn right Air mail express the next day for 94 in Van Dyke to the van Wick expressway Go go gadget watch my street look like a battle but I miss the off white hoodie with the bojacks but they Travis Scott catch him pops you can tell I'm up just by my ice game baseline and CH's doing 90 plus in the bike lane and do to them shot your brother you was not no dumper have my shooter pull up on your bumper you ain't got no jumper you knock at the window two spots on Sorento blocking my kins up ys in the stand up watching for the kick up live from the six foot tied in the disrupt and Dr. Demento few knocks at the window two spots on Sorrento blocking my k up y from the six tied in with this.

[Corey]

And Dr. Demento that's Dr. Demento, baldy James, my guy V Don shout out to D Polo and all the guys over there album is Alphabet Highways and it's real dope. Check it out.

[Parks]

I'm going to Damn. I had like three songs to pick. I'm going to Jake and Papa. Okay, this song is called Floating.

[Joe Budden]

Life.

[Savon]

Is picking my hair the head on the rose ain't there three une glue.

[Mal]

The top off.

[Parks]

Yeah hand on the.

[Savon]

Inside of your thigh my left hand.

[Joe Budden]

Still while I drive and you move.

[Parks]

My hand north side ow.

[Savon]

Can you.

[Joe Budden]

Feel my love.

[Ish]

Going in on the.

[Savon]

Drive.

[Joe Budden]

Got the readers on night.

[Savon]

All time don't matter space don't leave me.

[Joe Budden]

Down smell the isis watching you shine.

[Ish]

One touch then we illuminate like a.

[Savon]

Light be running on high oh yeah keeping your head turn over yeah we can make CL go slower yeah I'm a song for you feel my love my there's a holding.

[Mal]

We going to.

[Savon]

Take flight when we come by know the night time is the right time doing lifetime after lifetime you're the climax of the woman design now I.

[Ish]

Now you know.

[Corey]

That is floating by Jake and papa. That was dope. That was super dope.

[Joe Budden]

Big Mel. Fight back.

[Corey]

Mel.

[Ish]

This is not Fight back.

[Flip]

My song is called Worship. Worship by.

[Joe Budden]

Is it fighting back?

[Flip]

Christ on a fucking cracker. I don't know. Okay. Worship by Ari.

[Corey]

Don't prohibit to this that a where.

[Joe Budden]

I put my price that ain't where I put my.

[Parks]

I don't put that on my cracker.

[Flip]

Settle down.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, let's go, Mel.

[Corey]

Kanye.

[Flip]

Kanye don't insult me.

[Mal]

My bad or her.

[Savon]

Baby don't lie it's okay that you cry leave me your eyes on my body are shaking get high on before you're forsaken Pretty when you say my name like that Feel your lips trace them and act on don't say nothing just pray pretty when you're looking up like that you back put on your knees worship me make you believe I'm what you need so bed darling please whisper give me real life yeah, we're both sinners your body is close your tongue lingers you feed me the taste of your fingers freak Pray when you say my name like that Feel your lips down my neck don't say nothing just pray Pretty when you're looking up like that Rivet up never won't let you back Put on your knees wor make you believe I'm what you need so be darling please.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, they have to stop that though.

[Corey]

Take the fake out.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, but how they did it is this solo.

[Corey]

That's Ari Abdul Worship.

[Joe Budden]

That was a white girl, right?

[Corey]

I don't know. Shout out to the guitar.

[Flip]

Abdul.

[Joe Budden]

Who's A.R. abdul? I don't know. Is it Paula? You related to Paula?

[Flip]

Does she sound like a white girl?

[Joe Budden]

White girls changed their name to some Abdul all the time in the music. Music business.

[Flip]

She's not.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know if Ariane is a guitar solo.

[Corey]

Yeah, for sure.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

That was fire. Come on. That was fire.

[Corey]

Big man up.

[Joe Budden]

Big male. Yo, what would you do? Where would you get your big males from if not here with us?

[Flip]

Honestly, I don't know. And I don't know what I would do with myself because really it just. It lights my fire.

[Joe Budden]

Honestly, that type of support. I don't know if you playing, but that's.

[Ish]

I'm not.

[Flip]

I'm not being sarcastic.

[Joe Budden]

That support does feel good.

[Flip]

It does. I swear to God, I'm not being sarcastic at all. I love that.

[Ish]

Damn.

[Flip]

All right, any who's.

[Joe Budden]

Did n Blackman drop something?

[Flip]

Oh no, apparently not.

[Ish]

Because.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, so we. Okay? Yeah. Cuz he. He left again for the day. Now he got one today. We got Mark.

[Flip]

Mark.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no, no.

[Parks]

You need help?

[Mal]

Sure, I got you.

[Joe Budden]

I got you need help. Cuz. Ish got a. A ghost person that sends him his sleepers.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He could see me?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, he could probably add you to the group text.

[Parks]

I got three or four of you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm good, I'm good.

[Joe Budden]

This is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Wow, it's been a rough week.

[Joe Budden]

I need one. Let me hear what else in the chamber. What you got in the chamber? Let me see if you let me.

[Mal]

Hear what Alex sent you.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Cause you know what's funny? I went. I went a few days after we did the pod to search for new music. Bumped into the fucking KWN song, copped it cause instant heat. And then I seen somebody like. Like, you know, cuz I walk out during ish sleeping sometimes that seems am I like yo H play the KW and heater. And I went and would just. Sure enough. No, he played it. And I know it ain't picked that. It ain't picked up.

[Mal]

Alex sent him that one.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know who sent it to him, but.

[Mal]

Well, that's who been sending them the sh before.

[Joe Budden]

That's what I'm saying. He might add a new person. He ain't picking this stuff though.

[Parks]

It's crazy.

[Joe Budden]

You ain't picked that record. You a pick that record.

[Mal]

We have different music tastes. I don't hate.

[Joe Budden]

But you have it on the run, so I. I can't on you as you. That's a fake shit. I can't shit on you.

[Parks]

Pardon me?

[Joe Budden]

You've been on a run. I can't.

[Parks]

I can't even lie.

[Joe Budden]

You been cool. You and whoever that is y'all killing.

[Parks]

It's a team.

[Mal]

That's his mans that be sending them the tweets. He send them sleepers too.

[Joe Budden]

Some of them shit sound like it's a dude. Probably this is me. He's probably a dude. Some of them songs got that dude touch. See, I wasn't got to go too far, you know?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Definitely a dude.

[Joe Budden]

No, it's got to be a dude. Yeah.

[Mal]

Ain't no woman going to send him.

[Joe Budden]

You think. You think that my friend Antoine would be exchanging R and B love songs with a girl in the text or dm?

[Mal]

Not my friend.

[Joe Budden]

Not my friend.

[Mal]

He don't even text a DM like that.

[Joe Budden]

Especially if he's in the house all weekend cuz his family is gone. Like. Nah. No way. You're not in the house texting love songs.

[Mal]

What.

[Joe Budden]

You in the house. Talk about something. You heard this gonna kill him. Oh, man. All right, man. Good part. Indeed. Good part today, man. Look at you guys. Come on. Best crew in the world. Best crew in the world. They can't with us at all. All right, man. Hopefully y'all have enjoyed this broadcast as much as all of us have enjoyed delivering it to you, man. Keep us in your prayers, boy. Do we need it. We are up individuals. Liars, sinners, thieves, cheats, all the bad, man. We. We. We've done it before. We need you. Y'all lucky. Y'all lucky, boy. Y'all telling y'all Y'all lucky, man. I come in the party and get. Get the break dancing started. What's up? Somebody play with me. All right, man. Pray for us because we need a lot of help. Till next time, we bid you a do. Farewell. Adios to Riba Dirche. Hasta la vista, Arbois. So long. Goodbye. A simple head knob will suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments. And moments pass. Please, let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Hey, you know what I mean? I just want to love as loud as my higher power does. I want to love like the Lord, man. Please anchor me in your spirit.

[Parks]

Hey, yo, you might be a preacher at like 65y.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, hopefully them getting to it. They getting to it, and they got the H.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey.

[Parks]

Oh, man.

[Joe Budden]

Anybody doing anything fun this week? Anybody doing anything fun this week?

[Ish]

No.

[Flip]

Better go get some acupuncture.

[Joe Budden]

All right, but could you, at the drop of a dime, huh? Talk to them if they listen. Talk to them if they listen now.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Nope.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Yeah, right?

[Joe Budden]

No.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No.

[Joe Budden]

Lie.

[Mal]

Hell no.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. That was a trick. Stupid. That was a trap. We would all be like, right? It was a trap. It's true. What am I doing for the week? Am I turning it up?

[Mal]

N N. Not you.

[Joe Budden]

Not this week. I told you. I was just fighting all week with my girl. I went out too much last week.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All I.

[Joe Budden]

And this is how I knew I was a dick, because we made up about the fight, but the fight was about me going out like six out of seven nights. So then I didn't go out the day that we had to talk, but I was gonna text her and say I did. Home, babe. I just got in. But I'm against. I'm against up people's mornings that I love. I don't feel like the morning should start bad.

[Parks]

So you hate us.

[Mal]

Why would you? But you ain't. Why would.

[Joe Budden]

Why?

[Mal]

I'm just curious, cuz.

[Joe Budden]

That's Hilarious. I feel like that's one of the funniest things that's hilarious. To just have that fight and be like. And just do it again the same day, but not do it. Yo, home, babe. Oh, she had a conniption. Wait a minute. Y'all hold it down, man. You see me in the street, don't be afraid to speak me, man. This lying.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You ain't going to see him in the street.

[Parks]

They do it to me. They be like, yo. I be like, what?

[Corey]

I appreciate that.

[Parks]

Yo, dog, I know that seems like common decency. I know y'all don't really like, you know, I'm like, bro, that's him. That's not me.

[Joe Budden]

No. Yeah. You'll just sit there and talk for hours. Give him your number. Dm Go to a play together. Go. Go see the new Tank on Broadway. Yeah, take us on Broadway. And he. And he asked when we coming.

[Parks]

You lying.

[Joe Budden]

He did ask.

[Flip]

Any Alicia Keys play. He's playing her father at Hell's Kitchen.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, he and he did. Really? And he did ask us to come.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, we should go.

[Parks]

I'm in there.

[Joe Budden]

We should go.

[Parks]

Hit my plug right now.

[Joe Budden]

I don't want to go with you, though.

[Flip]

Why?

[Joe Budden]

I wasn't talking.

[Ish]

Okay.

[Parks]

No, I can't, bro.

[Mal]

I can't, I can't, I can't.

[Ish]

Who you talking to?

[Mal]

This nigga crazy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Crazy, man.

[Ish]

Who were you talking to?

[Joe Budden]

The listeners. Yeah.

[Corey]

Try to help a man up.

[Ish]

Oh, shout the Tank, man. We'll be there.

[Joe Budden]

I be treating the Broadway like it's the movies. Like them going to be there forever. Work.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, and he, too.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah, I know. Though.

[Mal]

Tickets high.

[Parks]

As with some of that bro, them Denzel sh.

[Joe Budden]

Is that. Is that that Denzel?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I need to.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I'm going to play in a while.

[Parks]

About to be over in a minute.

[Ish]

It is. When?

[Parks]

No, Dell about to be off in a minute.

[Flip]

I think it's done in June. In June. It's done in June.

[Joe Budden]

Cut yourel off.

[Parks]

When did you say that Denzel is about to be off?

[Joe Budden]

I thought it cut Zel off. Wait, actually, they did.

[Parks]

They.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, they did. Enzel, I'm talking. But they ended Zel as an app.

[Mal]

Yeah, as an app. Now you got to do it through the direct.

[Joe Budden]

Through the banks, cuz you never mind.

[Ish]

Scammy. Sc be going crazy with this Zel scams.

[Mal]

What?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. No, the scammers is all the way up. Every time I talk to the bank, they scared to death. And I keep failing the authenticity test.

[Corey]

Yeah, we watch you you're not authentic enough.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not. Not me. Every time I do it, you'll get mad at them. Yeah, yeah.

[Mal]

Why you pick this one question to ask me? I don't like.

[Joe Budden]

Who know my dead cat name better than me?

[Parks]

It's a question that you told us.

[Joe Budden]

Their system start tripping up. They rely on them Autobots too much.

[Mal]

Autobot, I be cursing them shits out.

[Joe Budden]

Autobots.

[Mal]

I curse them shits out.

[Ish]

Hollering on the phone, Representative Joseph. How can we avoid this in the future? How can you know is when I call.

[Parks]

How could you know it's me?

[Ish]

It's me when I call. Like fix that.

[Parks]

Yo, one of them AI go ahead.

[Ish]

Listen to the stupid Joe say that up me. I'm like, who the you talking to? Make should have hung up the phone on you.

[Parks]

Keep playing when I'm rushing a going to get your voice. It's me, dummy.

[Ish]

How do we figure out our way around this?

[Parks]

I know you got a little bit of dollars in there too. Yeah, them hit your. You gonna be mad cursing the bank out.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You're gonna be wiping your ass with that money.

[Parks]

No, they gonna wipe their ass right in a new hut. Oh, niggas gonna be over there chilling.

[Mal]

Well, they're not in the hut.

[Parks]

I feel like this racist in Bali.

[Ish]

You talking about Africa?

[Parks]

No, I said Bali.

[Ish]

All right, clean it up.

[Parks]

I'm not you, bro.

[Ish]

Never. I'm down with you.

[Parks]

You don't like the immigrants.

[Ish]

Yo, you going let him say that to me. You going let your man just tell me I don't. I am one.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He is the immigrant trade.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, he learned that at the Barclays. The hard way.

[Parks]

No, he American.

[Ish]

What did I learn him?

[Parks]

A Yankee boy in him.

[Mal]

They left that right outside.

[Joe Budden]

And they open the door and looked at him. Oh.

[Mal]

Yo, that's crazy.

[Ish]

For a while, Lord, I was out there. How long you standing for you?

[Flip]

Two hours.

[Mal]

You say the whole show?

[Ish]

No, I didn't say the whole show.

[Joe Budden]

Catch the let out. You've never heard of Joe, buddy.

[Ish]

Never.

[Mal]

I was there too.

[Ish]

And the ball play. They have a section where the cars go, where the you got to drive in.

[Joe Budden]

Whoa, whoa. You can't even think about saying, don't talk about that section again.

[Ish]

I was over there.

[Mal]

But you wasn't in there with a.

[Joe Budden]

But you wasn't in there.

[Corey]

You was out there trying to sneak in the car.

[Ish]

They wanted me to do that.

[Parks]

J.R. out there, arm broke, holding the camera.

[Ish]

That's my nephew. Y my face recognition get me into places. Remember I told you that. So I can. I can take a chance. My boss.

[Joe Budden]

Well, if you don't feel like traveling far, then, yeah, anyway. Like, if you gonna keep it local.

[Ish]

Then yeah, anyway, any city. Watch your mouth, boy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Local don't sound like any burrow.

[Mal]

Yeah, it don't sound like. It don't sound like Brooklyn.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, definitely not Staten Island.

[Ish]

Listen, they turned a lot of away at the ball.

[Mal]

We're not talking about them queens, Flip.

[Ish]

And I respect that.

[Mal]

I saw Shigy and Drew in there and where. Not mine and where.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Come on in tickets.

[Ish]

You don't need no tickets. Come on.

[Joe Budden]

And they let their whole squad in. I seen Juki plus 40 in there.

[Mal]

Had like 90.

[Joe Budden]

I bet. You see he a boogie them too. They just got in without you, though.

[Ish]

That is nasty.

[Joe Budden]

Buy a ticket, represent the company correctly.

[Ish]

Never, never represent.

[Joe Budden]

Flip the network correctly.

[Ish]

I put. I put on for the career. Trick them.

[Joe Budden]

Trick them. Now, not my.

[Ish]

I put on. And they gonna pay for this.

[Flip]

Look, I got. I'm tight behind it all hands, a soft mouth. Okay, I'm doing just.

[Joe Budden]

Excuse me, sir. I'm sorry, I have to wake you. You a doctor? Excuse me, sir, I'm sorry, I have to wake you. You a doctor? Excuse, excuse, excuse. Excuse me, sir, I'm sorry I have to wake you. You a doctor?

[Mal]

We got him. We got him.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God.

[Ish]

Yeah, she was tight. When you were in the back room, she was looking like, what's going on?

[Savon]

Where would you be without the JP By.