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You can just chill. This told me not to be Mr. Rah Rah. Y' all more chill mode today, y' all. I mean, it's just. We chilling. We chilling, man. Sun shining, motherfucking electrical. My electrical shade broke in the crib. I can't even see the sun. My remote. I'm just. That's the extent of my troubleshooting batteries. I was just getting ready. You got to reset the system. Let me pull it up on YouTube, man. I'll reset the system. They are YouTube making money for just. They showing y' all how to put vacuums together. Everything. Everything. Any question you got. Best way to clean your stove right on YouTube. Question from my car. I jump right on YouTube. YouTube university, man. And I should have walked you through it. Shout out to the YouTubers. The YouTubers. I got it in 10 minutes. I'm going. Know what type of mood I'm in. I got to see what I got to see that. I got to see what the team needs from me today. Test results back. What? Test result. Yes, sir. It's going to be that kind of day. Let's go. Okay. You said you could. You good? Okay. Burning. All right. So everybody's feeling good? Good, good, good, good. All right. Was here she be rocking with me. I'm doing it for my sister right now. This my, too. I like you, too. Listen, if we getting the rap beef, then I'm starting with my rock and roll. My soft, soft rock. Mic check, mic check, mic check. Stop playing with Boy. Yeah, man. We in the car right now. Hold up. Some of y' all know about my white boy play, all right? You heard the knock, Boo Boo. Oh, man. Oh, we have a good time today. Yo, shout out to wherever you might be listening from. Always for the ladies. Shout out to the entrepreneur. Nine to five is out there. All the parents and cheering instead of mental health. I like it here with my childhood friend. Here they come out. Okay, listen, man. Hey. Shout all you beautiful people. Y' all could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with us. Shout out to the streamers out there, the YouTubers out there, postal workers out there, the teachers out there. Welcome to your life. Everybody in the office. Shout out to the people in healthcare, the manicurists, the pedicures and all that. Everybody in the retail business. Here goes. Yes, sir. Hey, I don't give a. I don't give a. That's what I'm on today. I like. I like selections two and three. This is what I'm on today. I noticed N who you talking about? This is how I'm feeling. Nigga, this is flip shit. Exactly. Nah, nah. This flip bag a little bit. You know what I mean? You don't know this boy. My guy flip straight from the puff trial. Yes, sir. Hey. Yes, sir. Real journalism. Not that Mark be doing on the Zoom at night, y' all. I ain't gonna hold y' all. Me and my girl had a good laugh, too. If you just click on Mark Zoom at night, that should be lit. That. Yo, I thought you talking about. Wait, What? I go. I click Mark thing to support him, right? Let me go see what Mark up to. Mark might not be up there. No, he kicking the system. He killing the system. I said the same thing. He be some Nubian couples doing some Earth dances, singing a song. His own network. Who the. That be Miz Yo Miz. Yo, for Malcolm x 100th birthday. He was crazy. Miz was like, 3,000 in there. I was sh. Tell you about that. We had a good time. Yo, Mark is amazing, man. Shout out to Malcolm, man. Rest in peace. All right? We going to have a real good time today, man. Oh, yo, I want to talk about Godfather. All of them, too. Y' all say Malcolm X. That's what I thought about. Yo, why Frank Lucas? Y' all caught up? Yes, I think so. Why Frank Lucas, man? Frank Lucas ain't all right. Come on, man. Let's have a good time today. We have a good time today, man. In a real good move. Thank God, man. Thank God. Thanks to a higher power. Let's keep this applause going for the best crew in the world. Let me get these drops out the way real quick. Excuse me, sir. I'm sorry I have to wake you. You're a doctor. Who was that new. Ooh, Flip. Flip is here, y' all. Flip, what type of show you want today? You know, I gotta. I gotta rub this whole peace in like 3.2 seconds. Why you doing that peace? Why you can't just make it peaceful so we can enjoy the show, man. Serenity. Got your man Corey got his shoes off. He ready to get at me. I want healing. All right, Sage. I want to calm. So hold on. So after you press that, acknowledge me better. I did. Yo, Flip here, too, y' all. No, no, no, no. Flip here. Flippy again. Anyway, man, what episode is this? Hey, yo, Flip in the building. 827. Yeah, Flip is in the building. Welcome to Eight, episode 827 of the Joe Button Podcast, brought to you by Fueled by Powered by Prize Picks. Prize picks, gang. You. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, really happy to be here, host Joe. But the best crew in the world, Melissa Ford, is out doing what the fuck she wants to do, and deservedly so. So make some noise for that. Yeah, so let's make some noise for them. Getting that Gracie. Gracie, man. Getting that Gracie Award. She took a whole week for the Gracie. That's where the cap come in. She got that right there is where the cap coming. I talked to her this morning. I was like, yo, how's the award shit going? She said, oh, it's today. It's in a couple hours. I was like. She took the. Why the fuck did you leave Friday at noon? I was so confused. Yeah, she said she needed time to get ready to prepare for the grace of the. I totally respect that. I totally respect that. And I stand with her. I just didn't understand. Y' all talk every morning. No, I called her to ask her about the show. Cause I was running late, and she's like, I'm not there. I thought she was here. What did you running late have to do with Melissa Ford? What'd you say? I see how that could sound crazy, but no, I was running late and I said, are you there yet? Tell Joe I'm not there. I'm quitting track. You rather call her than call Joe directly? We got a group chat number. Honestly called. Mel said, okay. I called Corey first. He didn't pick up. Yeah, you better. You better start throwing some other names. She always wanted to answer. I called Ian. He didn't answer. Then I called Mel. Okay, I probably should have called Ice or anybody. Who the dick? Oh, man. Anyway, Dr. Mark Lamar Hill is in the building. Queen's Flip is in the building. King Wawa ish is in the building. Welcome back, ish. Freeze. Mr. Take it further is in the building. Big Parks. King Elmira in the building. Poe is in the building. Corey is here. Erickson is there. And I have no idea who's in there with him. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here. What's poppin, though? Hey, shit, man. Chilling, man. Good to see y' all. Good to see y' all. Good to be seen. Yeah, Ish, welcome back. Thank you. So y' all looking good. Y' all smelling good. Come on. Where we at with it? Where we at with it? All right. Rat Beef time indeed. Another year rap beef. Another summer rat beef. Let's not get carried away. It is, though. It is. It might not be the main event rap beef of last year, but it's good rap. All right, audience, I'm letting y' all know Parks and Ice are ready today. They not. They not playing for sure. This is their type of beef I'm chatting up. Actually, I'm surprised it's not yours. Word. Well, we'll get into it. We'll get into it. As soon as we left Reason Drop, or while we were here, Reason Drop. So I wasn't able to hear that. Give me a little bit of reason. I haven't heard. Daylight just dropped 10 minutes ago. I haven't heard that. All right, park, we are going to try to play some of most of these disses. Like they said, these niggas are really rapping. So these tracks ain't the shortest. Yeah, for sure. This is reason Dead Apple. Here we go. Okay. Shout out to Reeves, friend of the show. Yeah, right to it. Let's go. Dear Joey, Joey, ain't expect my name to be spoken. That shit really hurt my heart I could truly say that it's broken I get it's just a ball but when I sit down and focus, it's a coast Jealousy that you thought we ain't noticed Y' all used to be the method. You was really goated. We heard your techniques and applied it. While y' all was gloating, the sacrificial lamb, the soloist with no band members, Joey Kaepernick. Nobody gonna take a stand. Y' all used to have his texture Struggling really rough in it Hit a bumpy road slick Fell off. Now you won't suck a West ate the course. Our name blew up and puffed a bit. And speaking of puff, you niggas been on some nutty shit. This ain't the New York I know. This ain't the New York I know. All right? He's bringing New York into it. All right? This is probably the start of the jump, okay? Like the. The melee, the. The Avengers, everyone's brawling. I think this kind of. I will give reason that credit. Why are they all jumping his man again, the west coast in particular, when he ain't like that. It's no different. Yo, this is the flip of when Kendrick did Control in that line. He said, I'm Machiavelli's offspring. I'm the king of New York. And a bunch of New York who he wasn't talking to jumped in and started right? Everybody jumped in. Control. Yeah, you were one of them. Joel Papoose. You name them. Anybody from New York who had a pen, who felt the way. Hey, you the what? No, this is the flip side of that. I don't think this is the equivalent of that. Why not? Let me. Because. What song did Joey say this on? The Rule is back. I don't think. What was the line? I don't think that's too much equivalent of Lose Control. He didn't address any of y' all. He was talking back to Control. He was talking to who he was talking to. We know he was talking to. He said the niggas by names. Everybody else that replied, it was, so what? We don't want to hear from you. We want to hear from the niggas he's talking to in his. This is facts. This is. No, I'm just saying. But if you call yourself the king of New York, then the niggas that are in New York City are going to take that as a shot and start replying. Okay, so. So if the west coast is having a moment right now, which they are, clearly. And then you come out and say, it's too much west coast dick licking, even though it's a play on the, you know, someone else's lyrics, but you come out and say that from the west coast who are in this moment right now are gonna feel away and say, hey, who you talking to? That's what's going on. I agree. I just don't think they're equivalent. But I get. I'm just saying it's very similar. I want smoke. I ain't mad at him. Yeah, these is dragging it. These is dragging it he responding. So where's the drag at? I love it. It ain't like he said this shit and never said nothing else again. He out there for smoke. Oh, you say something cool. I got you. You said something. I' ma dress you. You said something. I' ma address you all within 24 hours. See, the west coast feel like shouldn't nobody be saying nothing about their run and they summer and they sound and they region. And if you do, all of us gonna jump on your ass, right? I ain't mad at that. I ain't mad at it. They've been getting shorted so long or they feel like they've been getting shorted so long that if you say something about my brother, I'm on your ass. I'm not mad at it. Even if he ain't my brother. You say something about anybody out here, we on your ass. Come on. Let me hear more from Reeves. Like, the way you talk it out Still, Reeves, I 2 or 2? 2 beats never been dropped had to slide for my interest Left up a hundred ass God as my witness stepping on my own cause I needed my percentage unique chamber I'm cold independent don't worry, Rafer, I ain't gonna take up that on this. Doing a light job off the princip shot ain't direct enough but did you mention me? I'm with the drama the cipher was cold I run it back for you and I leave your soul beside you I push a button like it's giving my I never sued but I settle it the clip hungry out of fed in my neck we ain't good fellas I could pressure your method I can turn it into Personas Unique in your posture I turn in the runny if it's about the violence but you ain't surviving it's the west turning up the temperature you want the top spot climbing in a 20B Joe like I'm locking a foam in I'm pressing and sliding. He rapping. He's rapping. Rebody. All right. Re's body. That sounds great. Yeah, that sounds great. Re's going. He's going crazy. No, he smoked that. Yes. Shout out to Reese, friends of the show, Reeves. Absolutely. And then we got. Are you proud? Is that Ree can go? Yeah. And Reeves be looking for a reason to go. Got it. So I like the guys. That is. Oh, wait, I didn't even get to the part where he said the best rapper from New York is on podcast. And then followed it up with a button punchline. Oh, please. I don't know exactly where it's at Went straight to the West Coast I'm mad that the west coast dude beat everybody from New York to the. To the dope New York shits Where you being? What the. I ain't spook satellite dishes we'll put it on your roof Turn is L and choose peace I ain't lone I can catch a friendly with the homies that's just how it is Y' all come and try it Let it sing like a quack here whole lot of carry cannons like Mariah Dear Calm all that bass in your voice we the pioneers oh, all bad the best rapper in New York on the podcast I button up this shirt and give out jaw taps this ain't clout chasing what you call that? This ain't about paper what you call that I bring it right to where law that we whack a better God Never fall back it's the llama. Let's get started. He went crazy. Damn, Joe. Acknowledging the man, huh? I mean, I thought that was common knowledge. I mean, I thought everybody knew that part. God damn. He wasn't talking about you, though. Jada got a podcast. He's got a podcast. Cam got a podcast. Mace. Yeah. You weren't talking about you. I mean, I think Dory. Yeah. Who? Troy. Come on, let's just do it now. Come on, D. Got him. Come on. Come with your name anyway now it may know may know that's true. That's right. I think I'm aware of everybody else podcast, but thanks, friends. Oh, yeah. We hold you down. You know we got you. Come on, man. Come on. You know we got. I feel so love. Yeah, for sure. I do like the West Coast. West Coasting, the New York beats. Yeah, like that back down. Sounds absolutely crazy. We'll get to it in a second. What he's doing with New York. New York sounds nuts. It's tough. I just like. They doing that and still rapping, right? No, I ain't rapping. Yeah, like, it ain't. It ain't even with the west coast bop. You still rapping, right? That's. That's all that's important to me. All right, so who we got next up? Az. Az Chi came out, which. And we're fast forwarding, but his name is ruined. To me now. The record was hard. The record's hard. The record was crazy. Still is hard. It's still. The record was hard. Unfortunately for him. I hate to be the one to say it. Yeah. Joey followed up with a record and called him ass Cheek. His name is spelled A, Z, C, H, I, K, E. And it just. It just kind of took the. You know how you give a half a bar but that half a bar so hard that it's like you just. We only want to hear it no more. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was respectfully. Respectfully. And I like the record, too. I like him. That's the dude. He was a feature on Peekaboo who kind of stole the show on the GNX album. I like. I like dude, but that just. I forgot how to pronounce his name. I feel horrible. That hurts, bro. All right, that one hurt. Let's hear the gentleman. You want to hear it? Okay. No. This is hard, though. It's very hard. We gotta give him a couple bars. They say it's the quiet ones you gotta worry about. I walk in, step on like a dirty hose. One feature got boogers around 30,000 about the coast Source chose you Watch your mouth. Shoulders rotating. I'm just getting in that mold. When built like foam, of course they fold the people's champ here on who they chose. Now it's time to get your muscles wipe like a itchy nose. See the chit Chatter like chisel don't get busy. Yes, the badass is boss. He can't with me. He keep talking about the West. He's strictly dicky. Great. Got some. I guess some. We going 50, 50. Tag me in time to get a gone. Yeah, you bad to the ass. I'm just bad to the bone. Hey, little snip, you want even more of a song? Shout to Opium. I show you on my still ain't made a head. Thank you, man. I love that one. But salute. Salute to him. Keep going. Daylight came next. Underwhelming mark. Watch yourself, Joey. Joey, unfortunately for a. Yeah. Dismissed that rather quickly with the ass cheeks bar. It's never gonna hit the same. So to speak. It is never gonna hit the same. Daylight. Daylight's up. Daylight. This was pretty dope. I like. I like the beat Flip. Is this the new daylight? This is old daylight. This is two, three days ago. Oh, no. This was the one. Yeah. I like the beat, boy. When he was outside doing a video in the train station. I like the beef. It was cool concept what we built. We popped and then skirted. Now expect to be killed. They think you going nuts, so it's cool. Vasectomy dealt you won't wreck with me. Told him cold on the mountain, your death can't be healed. God, why he be for the giant like we equal Defiant scar. Think you can kill a king. The people was lying. But tell him and why. Cinderella, it's time to crash. Spaz. Cinderella. You hung out with the. Hey, yo. Clearly. Thoughts on. I'm. I wasn't a fan of it. Yeah. I'mma keep it a buck. I like the concept of the beat flip. Yeah, I like the concept. I like. I like his balls. But it's just. I think it's maybe a little too abstract. Yes. Which daylight is going to. Yeah, that's a good way of putting it. It's too abstract. Especially for this. For battle. Yeah. I don't. I don't need the battle where I really gotta. I know it's gonna sound crazy, but I don't really need the battle where I have to overthink. Yeah. To get what you're trying to say. Be blunt and direct. That's what my favorite rap battles have been doing. Yeah. What you think of that? I. I didn't like that one. Yeah, I didn't like that one. When I heard it, I was cool. That's when I saw people saying they like to sit down and chill. That wasn't his best. His best effort. And some of the ones he did earlier, I think I played one of them up here, were super hard because I went back and listened to the whole chronology of this. I made an album out of it. He had a couple slaps in there, but that one. I like the concept, but it didn't really fly. It didn't resonate. Yeah. Next we got cj Fly. I'm not gonna play it. I thought, yeah, we go to Joey Badass. Get the Ray Vaughn and Joey Badass. I do want to play Kai Cash for at least a couple bars because he went crazy. This is Nixon 6. Oh, I heard it from. I was unfamiliar with Kai Cash up to this point. See, it's time to bring the bars back. It's time to bring New York back. All that fly, all that drill that is cool but never needed reasoning just needed somewhat equal for it simple ray of joy gonna make it feel a bit appeasing. Mr. Died and wound up pregnant. All that riding, you conceiving something less than anything that ever came up from the east. A lot of little reaching I'm guessing dreams deferred. You trying to swing for a big homie that ain't never seen you serve Never made it to your games Ain't pick you up when you was down Ain't lift your head until you smile when bullied you for hours off yawning all that boring you spewing it ain't sparring. It's just shadow boxing. Lot of second guest releases, lot of doubted options. You just the only nick repping for your team. That's why they empty this shit. Sad to watch. It's only one with Napoleon complex. With glory in arms reach. He put a lot of years in and couldn't find a worthy battle. You gonna get harmed easy your freshman year. Helping you get closer to God. Heathen. It's time to put the game on. Stay warm. We can turn Rayvon and Trayvon and go without conviction. Niggas never been committed touchdown to reach a claymore and money won't make this go away. Now you mission in the city was debate, huh? You could have left outside of this debate though. They never seen it coming from this angle. It ain't safe to make disclaimers about my section without sanctioning. It's only gonna lead to more angles from the Yankees, dog. I'm in this. He's just a one friendly kid. I got him looking like who is this? And how he found his way to us and that he ain't got no business in. He's nice. Who is this? His name is Kakash. I don't really know too much about him. It just popped up. It's like he jumped in and put a record. Who is this? All right, so we just playing anybody that jumps in and says hey, yeah. I mean the nice ones. Whose side is he on? I know, but does Joey know him? Okay, so we don't know. Lost a plot. Okay. All right, go ahead. Watch your mouth. We don't know him, but he nice. A hundred going at Joey Badass. Yeah. Let somebody from New York that's getting this off get in there and six that I was out there. I was out there just jumping around. I get crazy. I didn't know none of them I was out there with. That's what happened New York. Watch yourself. He was nice. He was nice. He was nice. He's nice but I need that ain't tricking me. I felt the same way until I pressed play. You trick me in trouble daily this they going to get me in some rap beef. I'm shutting the upper. All right. Thank you. Csych Kash. Shout out to Kycash. Who the is Seaside? You want to go to work to Joey. Oh, he's generation now. These must forgot, man. Thank you. Y' all niggas must forgot, man. My town Joey are fucked up now, man. My town. Know what I'm saying? Are you stupid? Are you dumb? Y' all niggas thought this was man look your dance is number like days of summer rain the shine Imma bring that thunder looking like I can't see light yeah okay the question is it me vu or UV ray? Either way these L's get you passed out lights off when I black out swerving in the lane with me better crash out you niggas lightweight I swear I ain't even maxed out. No matter what stage they put you on, you still asked out. Your thirst for attention is sad and you could say could take away that such you said on Vlad I would say I'mma get on your ass. You might like that smoking on you in the blunt this the life pack the I need for months they told Joey to fight back now every punchline they need a crutch and a ice pack we silly with the uppercuts video poof y' all still tweeting for get in the booth I'm ready to truth y' all better off according the truth better yet get the general I'm killing his troops I put the last in a body bag now watch his spun back to get his dog tag Thought I told y' all ain't with with me R for R they a war ready they more ready for Comic con morning with the rap phenomenon. Take the number falling line I'mma get through the day fast like Ramadan fire you got like the way no, we're playing this entire joint like all of this other like, get me to the main event. I don't have time for all time for the openers. We need openers sometime. No, not on this broadcast. Go go to them other youtubers and hear what the openers are doing. I'm here for the main event, which is light Rayvon, Joey badass and now loaded Lux. Listen, call it New York bias. I think Joey's up. He's up and I think he's up. No, he's not up. Rayvon's been Joey up. Rayvon is going what's a lot to you? We'll have a time where we can go around the room and hear what everyone thinks. I'm just saying what I think. I'm not saying it's fact. In my opinion, Joey's beats has been have been a lot harder. This one sealed the deal for me. This is the one that sealed the deal for me. This beat switch and then bringing in loaded Lux. But some of them earlier rations was hard. Yeah, I don't think his beats have been harder. Ray ran out of to say to Me, well, this the very last. Really have nothing else to say. I was very careful picking my words last bar when I called. Called Raid a better wordsmith, which I think he very well may be. I don't know that that means that he's a better rapper or MC than Joey Badass, because it's about what you have to say, not how many fancy words you can rhyme. Joey sound like he got a lot to say about every one of y' all, even though it's low profile compared to Kendrick. I also think that there is some veteran verse, rookie or first year, however you want to view. Ray Vaughan player, you know, I'm saying, Joey's been here for a minute. He's been here 15 years. He's seasoned. That's what I'm saying. Like, with all due respect, it's easy to dismiss Ray Vaughon and Daylight and anybody on tde. That's not them. Yeah. That's not Kendrick. Solo Rock Schoolboy. Anybody else over there is easily dismissed. Sorry. And that's why they rapping the way they rapping on these records, because is gonna easily dismiss them. So let me show you something. Reason went crazy, bro. Yeah, reason's going crazy for a lot of people who might not have ever heard of Rayvon. It's like, oh, who is this? And he's killing. That's my favorite part about this battle between him, the dude. I'm independent now. You gave me a reason to come back out and show nigga what I could do with a pen. Yeah, I think this is gonna make a lot of these dudes gain some fans, which I love. Yeah, yeah. Just rap. That's. That's at the bottom line. Ain't no industry games, no. No label games, no nothing. YouTube drops bad mixes it. Let's go, Parks. Yeah, let's go. The rap phenomenon take the number four in line I' ma get through the date fast like Ramadan I'm the real boogeyman y' all should be afraid taking y' all so long you all them shots y' all took and I ain't even getting grazed Son of y' all Canaan ain't the only thing getting raised Triple entendre don't even ask me how I pack him out Punchlines pack a packy out tell them real bars is back in style and y' all getting smoked like black and mild I hope the streets call you Quill no wonder why your feathers ruffle bird teach a man to scuffle I'm a gladiator word of Russell Flexing all you in I ain't even had the move was single the kid from Westbrook got the whole west cook they jazz weak now Heard they working on their best huckle Look Rayon was so last week. Now I'm hearing about some named ass cheek who want to be the next victim. How many dolls will it take to sickle? Trying to take a bite out the apple is just forbidden Imma break them down to the atom then split them when I hit them with the finish your eyes on the pride hit on my fire don't make me pull us up better be wise cause if the wooden girl off Turn this off turn this off turn this off Slow down, slow down, slow down don't make me pull it so yeah, busy. You go crazy. Yeah, I like when the bars give you that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've really changed. I've really changed. I I love when you could hear like he gonna start out with a mix to death. He gonna start powering to death. But that's the angle. That's his strength and that's the angle that they using against him. I hear they trying to use against him. I hear you. It's something to be said for the where you could hear every word, understand every word. The mix sound pace. Yeah. His pace to me is more expensive sounding beats. Not for nothing. Yeah. All of that matters right this second. True. Them over there is rapping. They rapping. Yeah. And I don't want to take away from the production side over there too. Cuz I don't want to make it sound. I love them. Rayon beats Joey though. Standing alone. Something to be said for the demonstration he's putting on. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, I agree. And that sound crazy. It looks like it's a jump and he's winning the jump. That bring the pain flip. Oh my God, that was hard. Yo, though, he winning. Yeah, he's definitely winning. Ray went and they jumping him. Yeah. And they jumping. That's the impressive. That's the impressive. He's still standing. Yeah, he that off. Like call my man as like someone jumped in the fight and he just turned around. Anyway, back to the main event. That's real. Which is what should happen to homeboy for sure. Like, hey, you was on Peekaboo. Boo. Awesome. Thanks. And you could be a really dope guy with a bright future. Not now. Sorry. Hey, but I'm not mad at young boy. Now is round of applause for that. I don't want to be introduced to none of you during the beef. That's me. Oh, I don't. I do. That's my favorite part of the show. And you wasn't. Yes. Well, you're interested. Peekaboo. Yes. Says you. I didn't know homeboy's name on peek. Y' all speak for you. I get that. I don't know him and him jumping in this beef I pass speak for you. I understand. I know a homeboy's name. But if I was introduced on a number one album, my. The song that I'm on is, I think number six or seven. Some people have been introduced to me. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. And I'm not mad for him trying to shoot a shot. Me either. I'm not mad at that, but. Yeah. Can you get to that? Heavyweights, please. The plot is now thicker than bib Foxes I'm killing you. Really the villain I'm back and restoring the feeling y' all is really the feelings nothing but my chance these flows could break ceilings knock feelings down told y' all I'm back I know you feeling now and now what's you making it seem like you predicted my bar when in reality you heard my freestyle since March I'm calling your bluff, you want to see me cause you running for who say they want power go for script the battle you don't commit but what I can't do is put it on whack, you know it's lit hold a minute Skateboarding and doing tricks all my sh I was just at Jordan with the kick flip what we doing east to the west that's crossroads for you Whenever we intersect line for line and hashtagging same bout good kids or badass it's when punks who talk like they want it don't have bad for the palace, for the challenge I'm a game, you a chalice this light work and my aura on Aurora bore reality, you know the challenge hype me up, nigga I want all the value cut it out cause for the record we ain't drunkin songs and albums or performing ballads Just press oratorical talent this one at me ain't valid, can't chase them so bank on room to come and get that check Then he puts it all in the balance to fall over flat tried to climb the mountain and he broke his back LA strip players is exposed with lift chambers how you switch up? Yeah hit us like mama the whips raising my slip hanging a bench rain in the kitchen don't miss thing in position her kid came in here sniffing I'm cooking Notice troll faking making window shot came in some serious. I'm a man that can show him just playing and he gonna catch a fit he can't hang with T Grizzly. I'm big gamey the Knicks head coach. I'm putting pain. You've been on a rope. That's why you wear that ski mask. Career's gonna slope your playing freeze tag. You've been going for broke in game Joey out here lighting you up, playing with your name. I'm just saying they thought it was a game, man. God damn. Yeah. Yeah. That was dope. It was a dope tagging like you said. Yeah, There you go. Got him right here. Dope tag. I love that. Building anticipation for Lux and Light at some point. Yes. I love Lux being the person that Joey tags in. I love. I loved everything about that perfect execution beat. The flows. There's nothing to. Not really like about that one. That was. These is just doing a lot for where this beef started. That's all that, like. It's a lot going on. It is. But that's what I like about it. Pride is hip hop. I think it's promo. That's the main thing. Like, yo. And not just. I'm independent. The label is doing some bullshit. It's hard for us to get music out. This is giving me any reason to go get some more fans. I'm not mad at it. People are trying different things, flowing on different beats. Yeah. That's the part like, yo, I can rap so cool. You said something. I'm on your ass again. If you say something else, I'm gonna do it. This is. This comes to me in my sleep. These is bar spitters we talking about. Not. These ain't clout. Chasey. You know. This ain't that new generation gimmicky. Yeah, yeah. The. That could do everything but rap. Right, Right. That's what I'm loving about it. It feels like pure hip hop to me. It feels like that part. Like a sport. Yeah. I love it. She gets you excited. Listen. I'm like, yes. Who? Like who? Who got something to say next? I want to hear it. All right. Until. Until I listen. Until they don't. Yeah. Until I don't. Until they start missing. No, Until I don't. Until I get tired of it. But right now, I'm not tired of it. I love every second of this. Me too. You know it's going to be a million more tracks that we facts. That's go rap. We've been begging to rap for years. Word. So go Rap been saying New York ain't been sounding like New York for years now you have New York rapping good. Hey man, they let that off that casting couch. They let Johnson and Johnson holy got get back on Troy and ain't say heard he out here begging for DOC I let the case spit get smackdown thinking re wrestling with all them Ray flips little shots ain't hurt by wit I'm in the matrix electricity out here flexing with his power check had a pushing up daisies it's a flower set trooping with this Then why y' all ain't deploy I heard you was sliding no diddy but won't slide for you I was signed for five years and got blocked by Covid. You were signed for like 20 and 60 still ain't got motion you had legends in turned out bonus just a 4 bliss miss with a bad boy bonus look CJ got no hit Kirk got no hit. You ain't got no hit so pro era don't exist PD east ain't that about a. You got a label full of artists every blog post Skip I'm a D1 crash out I'm dummy as it gets Indian street food a made it off the wrist a made it out of wheel but my name ain't J. Smith thinking I ain't got his number number he authorized the Hitler's always coming from your lips if you're standing next to Diddy then you shouldn't mention See this is where he started. He started beating the Diddy down. Yeah, he did a little too much. That's my only issue with that. Yeah, me too. It was dope until but then it starts to get a little repetitive in the angle that he chose. Yeah, well that's my thing. How much are you going to be able to say about Joey Badass? I think they're going to start running out. I think both. I think everybody's going to start running out as you say and now we're just doing it it for the sake of doing it. Yeah, that was hard. That is hard though. Yeah, till then. But then it starts to daylight. Whatever your new is, we'll get to it on the next one, buddy. Yeah, so sorry. I'll check it out during the break. I still got Joey Badass up. Me too. Me too. But I think Ray has been right there with him. I'm not mad consistent. Yeah. And I'm not mad at Ray continuing to do that because Ray actually has an album out. He does so. Which is dope. Again. A dope album. And Album's dope. I missed that LA leakers freestyle he did. He went absolutely crazy up there. Yo. I didn't see it. We came in and talk. We talked about it. We talked about it. We definitely talked about it. Yeah, he went nuts. It was like 10 minutes long. Plus, y' all don't think we have a summer of rat beef coming, right? No, no, no. Who's it. Who's out here? The beef that the masses would want to really hear. This is for the Heads. Yeah, the masses. The masses don't give a about this. They don't. Not really. Sure Masters don't care about this. How long does this run? What do y' all think? Like, maybe another week. Okay. Week and a half, tops. I think it's kind of Joey Badass got a girlfriend, so he ain't gonna keep doing this with you. I can't speak for everybody or. I might want this. Yeah, Yeah. I might want this. Yeah. It's good traction for everybody involved. K and over. Yeah. Them is rapping like, ain't no girl in the house looking in the living room saying, hey, when you coming to bed? Joey Badass ain't gonna keep staying up all night. He gotta go to bed. Canon over. I got time. I got time. I do love it, though. Shout out to Joey, man. Shout out to. Shout out to Ray. Shout out to Daylight. Right. Shout out to you other whose names I don't know yet. This is. This is great. This is great. I love it. Yeah, me too. No, no, I excited. Ice. Ice what? Hip hop, though. We're not. We're not getting. We're not getting no rap albums. This is the closest thing we got to a rap album this year that we give a about. For me, I played this playlist more times than I've played any album, I think this year outside of Alan Two changes. Y only got two albums I with this year. Damn, that's crazy, right? We need Game to get involved. No, you can't do that. Can't do that. I love Game, but not right now. Bad timing. I feel like he's going to. They will light Game ass up with all the. That they got that they could use. Right? This second game is house shopping. Yeah, he got to chill. I also feel like it's a generation thing. Like he's a he. Yeah, you're right, but it was a generation thing. When Tyga was dissing Dirk, he didn't give a. That's true. He will. He. I'm sure he will insert himself in this beef at some point, but I don't think it's needed. Yeah, I wonder what all the rappers are doing. All the rappers is busy with life. They ain't doing. I know. That's what's funny too, because I see them tagging rappers on, like, Twitter or whatever, saying you need to get. Like, they hit banks. Banks like, yo, I just dropped the album of the year contender. I'm not thinking about this. You know, they. They hitting other rap. Like, I'm not getting in that. They got it right. Y. Y' all could do that. I don't. I don't prove my pen already in on that front. I think the same thing should go for game. Like. Yeah, but he, like, I know it. That's it. Yeah. It be beef that you don't want him in, and he just jumps in anyway. That's a fact. That's all. That's a fact. That's why I wouldn't be. If circumstances were different, I'm sure he'd be in here. Let the youngest duke it out. I agree. The up and comers got it. And Joey. And Joey kicking ass. We got a big dog. Freeze. I love when you do that. He would have get all this shit off again. Freeze. Nope. I told y' all. Y' all not gonna get me today. Nobody did nothing. All right, what's up? What else is going on? What else is hot out there? Come on, Flip. You was doing some real life journalism, huh? Was the pup trial you've been doing a lot. Yeah. Left work early the other day, and then I saw you in a sea of Knick fans. Yeah, I didn't leave for that, though. But I mean, yeah, I left work early. You know, I was, you know, went out there to be with the Knicks fans and shit. Had a meeting. Yeah. Puff trial, man. I was driving by with JR to go film something. I saw my mom outside. I didn't know what the fuck she was doing out there. I'm like, what? So then I got out the car and then, you know, they were asking me a lot of questions about how I feel, but. But who's that? People, tmz, different outlets asking me questions. And I just told them, like, you know, I'm not well researched yet, so I can't answer any question. You know, I learned from where I learned from the show that I'm on, that your voice is very powerful, and I don't want to speak out of turn. And it was like, okay, that's good. And then salute to that. Yeah, it was just mayhem and stuff like that, but I don't know my mother being out there for me. I gotta watch her. She's doing a lot. What's your there for doing that? Like just I guess blogging or vlogging on what's going on on her opinions around the corner from my job and it was good to see her, you know what I mean? And fresh and fit nigga was out there too. And I'm looking like I hope this ain't. Cause I know how my mom is. And J.R. was telling me, yo pop, did that guy go please calm down because you know they going back and forth outside so. But my mom was cool. Everybody was cool. I saw so many people that were just like you said was just running down there to be a part of the trial or be inside or try to get a scoop. Is it open to the public? I'm right. Completely. It's hard to get in there. I think that's so interesting. Like the people that wake up and say, you know what, I'm going to puff shit. I'm going to puff trial today. There's a lot of people that's outside. A lot of argument. A lot of arguing outside. So Laura LaRosa out there, she's cool. So yeah, she's dope. She's been streaming. I've been getting all my reporting from her. And some white lady. Yeah, I know you're talking about. I saw them out there. White lady cooking. She killed. She body of that she got. But the white lady had a little corner like she's not even trying. Yeah, she on the corner. She got a little space. She not with all that in the front. She go in the corner like it's like around the corner when nobody's on the stairs and she's just sitting there getting her off. Yeah, I know who you talking about. I don't really have nothing to say. I know some more people took the stand. I don't have anything else to say about the trial. As it stands currently is. You weren't here so if you have anything to say, please. They leaked the pictures of the escorts. I saw that. That was crazy. These niggas was in there with some mid. That's what you. They threw me all the way off with these Dolph Lundin looking ass head scores. That's where you go with this. Yeah. For months and months and months we've been here about baby oil and escorts and. And like was having a time. They put this list down, man. These muscle head fitness puff better had a mask on in there. It wasn't your type hey, watch if they strike two for you. I'm asking you. You said that men are men. It is. It is. You hit it earlier. I took it in. Strike. Right. Come on, dog. Anyway, the second one, you said that men were mid. Yeah, the list. Everybody on that list. It was a lot. It was a mid pack. I can't believe that that's who they was in there tossing up, said, let me put a mask on and go. I don't want to be seen with these. Hey, yo, let me tell you something. That list looks absolutely nuts. My. They was getting. That was the back page escort that's getting them from. That's when she started getting them from back paging and Craigslist. Yeah, but if you have a billion dollars. That's the problem. We assume that a billion dollars affords you a different lifestyle. And sometimes it don't. Sometimes it don't. Sometimes you pulling from the same escort list. What if the thought was, yo, they gonna. If I give them this bag, they gonna keep it quiet. Cause they from the back page and they from the Craigslist. One of them. I would think that would be the other way around. I'm about to say I wouldn't think that. I would think the opposite was on some retired weird wrestler. He looked like one of them that Hulk Hogan had to beat up in no movie. The ball head. Yeah. I ain't gonna lie. When he come. He came in there and wrecked. There goes Brutus Beefcake. Homeboy came in there and. Anyway, does anybody have any education? Educated takes? Oh, we only got the educated brother here. Don't put that on B9. Well educated. I think. I think the Charles Gorgeous where we thought. No new. No new information. I know Dawn Richard's testimony yesterday was. It didn't. It wasn't earth shattering. Yeah. Her didn't sway none. It didn't sway one way or the other. She. She made some points, but it was a lot of the same stuff from a civil trial and then. And there was some times where the defense when they were asking questions, she didn't remember certain details. But there was no. They said they chewed up and they said she. Yeah, they said they chewed up and they said she met up with the feds eight times, I guess, prior. Yeah. And then some of the stuff that she forgot got to mention or she didn't mention when she met up with them. That was something that they held on to. Wong. I think what's interesting though is that a lot of the witnesses have said now I don't recall. Or that was Too long ago. And each side is kind of being selective about when they think that's a big deal to not remember when they don't. So I'm curious to know how the jury interprets that. Well, dawn said she keeps remembering things as time goes on. And then Puff's defense was like, isn't that the opposite of how it goes? Like, don't people normally forget as time goes on? Unless somebody says you remembering things, which is not a good look, you know. But again, I'm curious to know how it plays out long term in terms of how the jury sees it. It's gonna be a long trial. So I'm wondering if at the end of this so called eight weeks, if people. How much Cassie or Dawn or whoever will even still be in people's minds. You think it'll last eight weeks? They said that at the beginning. The pacing seems a little fast to me. Like it wouldn't shock me if it was like five or six weeks. They four or five people now? Yeah, yeah. They got Cassie. Mom, want to stand right now. But I'm wondering if there's something we just don't know. You know, you can have a witness that. That could last 10 days depending on how things go. I just don't know. If Cassie wasn't pregnant, I'm sure that they would have loved her to stay longer. I'm sure they would have put her towards the end of the trial. Yeah, ideally. So it's the freshest thing on people's minds before deliberation or whatever. And I don't know how true it is, but I read that that Jane Doe 3 is not testifying. They can't find her. Can't find her from. From basically what I Y' all sleeping on that part actually. Don't say that, man. Change gonna come. Is it alone? I think they got them too, by the way. I'm just having fun. I do think they got him, right? I keep saying that. Yeah, they got him from now. Also, mind you, I've been. I've been wrong. Anytime I've guessed the verdict of one of these major celebrity trials, I've been wrong. So let me just say that too. I think they got him cuz they want to get him. I said that when you went here. I would agree with that. But I'm talking about if I'm judging based off what I'm seeing take place. I think you're judging based off of. Of the. Before the trial when the news outlets were saying they have all these informations on Puff. So then People like, damn, they got him. But now that we're going through the trial, it's looking a little different. Every day somebody get in that stand, they prove that he was beating motherfuckers up. And he not on trial for beating up. He's not on trial for that. For domestic. Yeah. But I still think they'll get him by making people see that this nigga is a menace. Got it. This nigga hit Cassie friend with the hammer. It's like, all right. You just. Yo, yo. Nah, I'm reading the shit. You can't hit. All right. I think they gonna get him. Just because they can't have thug go free and puff go free back to back. That ain't. I think they got him because the other trials wasn't the feds. The feds gotta. They make a tight game. When the feds come, it's different. I think that thus far, from the evidence that we've seen, thus far, from reports that have been released thus far, I think he winning. They said that the judge said. The judge stated like, what does this have to do with racketeering? They said. The judge said that somebody said. So when the judges started being like, yo, dog, y' all not the case. Yeah, it don't fare well. That's what the judge in Atlanta kept doing. Yo, dog, what are we talking about? I think that's. I'm curious to know what the next four or five weeks gonna look like. They're laying this out slow because I think what they're trying to lay out now, it's not just that puff comes out character flaws. Character. But also another thing is that part of the sex trafficking thing is coercion, force, or fraud. And I think they're trying to show that he has the ability to dominate and coerce and terrify people. And so it's not just he's a fucked up person. True. But also, like, he's capable of making people disappear. He's capable of doing these things. So you might really feel like you have to get involved in commercial. So we're going to show how violent. No, but we gonna lay it out slow. So we're gonna show how violent he is. We're gonna show he has a history of violence and making these things happen. Cool. Now when you go down the line and say, yo, why did you stay for so long? Boom. He was violent. Y' all saw that he did XYZ to these people. So I think they laying it out slow. Right? I ain't want my car to blow up right now, though. I think he's winning until they come through and tie it all together. Then they might do a masterful job of doing so. But I think as of right now, he's definitely winning. It's a whole bunch of reasonable doubt in what we've heard in the first two weeks. Here's the other thing, though, and this is what I've been thinking about. I mean, it seems like the prostitution stuff seems pretty cut and dry though, right? I think you're right about the racketeering. They ain't proving that at all. But is there any doubt that he paid for prostitutes and had them travel? I'm Cloudy. I know y' all read it here. I'm Cloudy on if that's sex trafficking. Yeah, me too. Like, because some people's version of coercion is different. We read the definition of coercion up here. But he can't necessarily forcefully say that he did those things. And I think that's where your point about the early thing is really important to tie those two things together. Because if. Because if I say I didn't coerce him to do it, and he says, yes, he did. And we've already established for three weeks that you coerced everybody doing everything. Cause everybody's scared of you, I think now all of a sudden. See, but you being scared of me is not coercion. And that's where it's tricky. No, but if you have a history of. And not me, anybody, some people are getting anybody, anybody. But if we have a history of, when I step out of line, he beat my ass. So now I might have did all of these 20 things voluntarily just so I ducked getting an ass whipping. And what I'm saying is I'm not certain in the court of law that that proves that. I know that Puff's defense attorney was asking Cassie, hey, did he ever beat your ass when you said no to a freak off? And the answer was no. So their angle was whatever the domestic abuse was about, it wasn't about this. It wasn't about these freak offs. That just sounds like a wild sentence to even say, no, no, no. But. But. And they. And so I don't. So I don't know. I don't know where the. The jurors fall on that. And from what I've seen also, they were having the freak offs when he wasn't even present. So, yes, if that's. Sometimes he asked for souvenirs, but that lends to. Yo, dog, she was doing this shit when I wasn't even there. And she was the alpha, you know what I'm saying? And. And. And the. And the lead person in these activities, and I wasn't even there. So I think that also bides him a little bit of reasonable doubt. I mean, now type of shit. I did hear that they're trying to get a doctor up there to talk about trauma. Right. Because they've stated that Cassie did text him in 2018 and 2020. You know what I mean? After she said the abuse happened after they broke up. So they're trying to say that maybe in 2023, when she filed the lawsuit, that she had time to realize that she was going through something or it was traumatic or it was toxic. She felt safe and free. Yeah, she felt safe and free. But what the defense is trying to say is that you said Puff is all these things, but you told him that you missed him. You were already engaged in a relationship, pregnant with your child, and you're reaching out to Puff, telling him how much you missed him, saying that he's your best friend, saying that you wouldn't be here if it wasn't for him. Your life wouldn't be this magnificent if it wasn't for him. So, yeah, it's a great this. This weekend. You know, we all. We talked about the cult stuff before, but I. I was thinking about when I lived in the cult and some of the kids who got molested, some of them moved back in. I was thinking about how many of them went back a year later or six months later or two years later, or who said they missed the name. We call it. They missed the leader. And at the time, I couldn't understand why they would do that shit either. I didn't get molested. So, you know, I was. It was easy for me to be out. I thought I. You know, a lot of them went back. So I guess for me, I can wrap my mind around it. I understand. But I remember their defense was the same thing. If I was this monster, why are these kids coming back? I don't know what's true or what's not true, but I do know that they're gonna have to convince the jury that that's possible. Cause there's a lot of people, everybody up here. We had this conversation last week. Who's doubtful about that piece. Jurors are gonna be doubtful about that too, so they're gonna do some real convincing. Yeah. Question for you. You said that when you were in the cult, though, when you left, you were basically homeless. Yeah. Right. And you had nowhere to turn and nowhere to go. Right. So there's a lot of that go to that demarc. Yo. He got himself together. No, no. But he was ashamed to go back home. That's what he said. He said he didn't want to go back home because he had an issue. I know he had a disagreement with mama loving him. Greatness. What I'm saying is a lot of when they come home from jail, they don't be having nowhere to go. And as fucked up as jail is, will do some shit to go right back to jail to what they know, where they're comfortable. Yeah. It's a comfort thing. Maybe more so than facing the outside world and all of the shit and adversity that comes along with that. You might as well go back to what you know. Exactly. And that could be potentially it. Especially when what you know is actually like a mansion. Three hots in the cot. Yeah. All that shit. Yeah. It's like Cassie had a whole much better warm. You know, her option was even better. So that's, that's. That's just some. I totally can see how it would happen. It doesn't make her right, doesn't make her wrong. But I can't could see it. It does. When I see that her do that, I don't go. That proves that proves she lying. But. But that proves who's lying. It's. Some people see that and say if, if she went back then she. Then she must be lying. I'm saying that doesn't necessarily mean that for me, the thing that come the, the, the thing that a lot of people had trouble with when it came to Cassie or as it pertains to Cassie. And I don't want to stay on her cuz she's no longer on the stand. They had a problem with how she, how she. She left because she realized she could never live up to the ghost of Kim Porter. Kim Porter. He didn't want to have a baby with her. All of those things are kind of saying now, you didn't leave as a result of abuse, you left as a result of. He wouldn't fulfill the things that you wanted out of your significant other. And even when they asked her on the stand, it's like she almost stopped by herself short of saying, yo, I still love this man. Yeah. And she might. So it gets tricky. She might and she might. And she might. Listen, she's not on trial, is she not. But we not in court. Yeah. Also true. Mark, Mark, how do you look at this? Right? We say that when we talk about the government and everything and, and the current people in power, we say that the world is this way, right? Like people think this way, People think, like misogynistic, and people have this way, this skewed view of viewing the world. And then when you go on in the trial, right, and you listen to what's going on, are we hoping that. And help me. Cause, you know, take a talk. Are we hoping that people will see things from a different lens? Because if we still see, if the world is fucked up, Trump and all that shit, and people have this view and we don't look at things about from the trauma perspective, or we don't acknowledge. Some of the people don't acknowledge public, not postpartum Stockholm syndrome. Are we hoping that they do see that view or look differently? Cause the judge or the jury may come from, I guess, the right side of the wing, if you understand what I'm saying. You understand what I mean? I don't think it's. I think the issues. I'd be curious to know what y' all think. But I think the issues are bigger even than just the last two years, four years, eight years, 10 years. I think it's just the way society looks at things that it doesn't stop at an election. So I think in general, we don't believe survivors. In general, we don't trust the testimony of people who say they were abused or we're skeptical about. Because we don't talk to people who get harmed a lot. We think that getting harmed looks a certain way. You get abused, you walk out, you never come back. And anybody who does something different, we see that as evidence that they might not be as harmed as they were volunteering, almost exactly. So that's always the tug of war. And so I think in the courtroom from. You're almost having to educate the jury about how to look at the world differently, when ideally we should be doing that for each other so that we never even get to that place. You know what I'm saying? And I think that's why it's an uphill battle, and that's why a lot of people don't go to court. That's why a lot of people don't go to the police. That's why a lot of people don't sue. It's not cause they're not harmed. It's because they don't want to have to go through all this shit where they end up being the person that gets scrutinized as much as, if not more than the person who actually did the harm. So you Know, I don't. And I think Puff's attorneys are hoping the same thing. I think they hope in the world, looks at the world the way we always do, you know, And. And that's why I think he's got more hope than most people. And. And I know we got it. We got to jump something else. But, like, it's. The only other thing is I say. I know sometimes we say the feds are unbeatable and they do have like a 99%, 98. But a lot of that is because of. Please. Most of it is. Almost all of it is plea bar. And so a lot of times they just put so much weight on you that you feel like you have to plead. You could be innocent. And if you know these niggas got a 90 something percentile victory rate, and they offer you. You looking at 40 years. And these niggas say, yo, take this three years, you could be innocent, my nigga. I know people could be innocent. Now you weighing, yo, three years, 85% of three years or 40 years. Yo, if I go take this tool and some change, I could still see my kids grow. So you get what I'm saying? They face. They put damn near immeasurable odds up. You know what I mean? Put you up against immeasurable odds, and niggas will take the easier route. That don't necessarily mean that they kicking ass, but when you got money and lawyers now, them odds go down a whole lot considerably. Considerably. So don't think he's going up against 98%. He might be going up against 50% for all odds. You know what I'm saying? It's a lot better odds when you got resources. I know we got an ad to get to, but can you all tell me what life can potentially look like for Puff in the event that he's out? What does that look like? Out, completely exonerated? Or out as in I did two years. Yeah. And I got time served. Or that. Or that. Which one? I think it's two different answers. I think it's two different scenarios. But even if. Even if he. Even if he. And I said this yesterday, even if he's found innocent, not guilty, some st. Based off the video, some stains are unremovable. His life is ruined. Yeah, some stains are unremovable. In some ways, people would still mess with Puff, but some stains are unremovable. That video of Cassie was still playing people's head. I understand that video, but this is Puff. If he gets completely exonerated of this and walks Away a free man. He still got a lot of powerful ass friends and a lot of people who want to show that, yo, I had your back. I never turned on you. And there's going to be a lot of that happening. And I think Puff will bounce. So you did the video. You did the video with this. That view of the video would disappear. I mean, and. And it'll be talk in the public's mind. But I'm just saying in terms of Puff getting back to. Getting back to the money. Been back to the money. I don't think that would halt to stop him at all. I think he'll be able to get to the money. I do think it'll be a little bit difficult for him to be like public facing in the way that he has been for 30 something years. I don't think walk the dog for me. Get to the money where I don't think he could take that. Like how Puff could go back to revolt tomorrow if he's an innocent man. Well, he sold it, right? So remember he sold. Wasn't it public? He sold his shares. He sold his part. Yeah, but come on. I'm saying he soldiers and resigned. I'm just saying, like I can see if wanted to be associated with me giving my shares to somebody or me losing my shares don't necessarily mean I have control of my shares. Ownership and control are different. I think a large part of Puff's brand has been him being a public figure. And I don't see how he can be a public figure anymore. But there's a lot of people that still on Puff side that are in the public. I think it depends on how a lot of people out here screaming Free Puff women. It's a lot of people. I got a slightly different take. They won't hold up. Let's go around the room. I'm asking like, who are you talking about? Artist wise Joe? Are you talking about people? Anybody but nobody. I guess what ICE is saying is the people that's not publicly condemning him, we automatically deem that they're on the side. If they're not criticizing him. If they had no comment. We automatically think that, okay, they waiting to see how this shit plays out. They waiting to see how it play out. They will work with Puff. We are in a social climate where if somebody might 100% feel like free Puff. You can't say that publicly for fear of damaging your own brand. I just want to know where he's getting his money from. Gina Thompson in total. That's what I'm Asking. I just think. I think Puff has enough capital. I don't know where his money is. I think he has enough capital. I think he got enough networking. Like we forgetting, bro, Puff was at the bottom working with Martha Stewart and all them niggas back in the 90s. Like he got enough resources. I think he can go invest his money and make a bunch of money. I think that he has enough ownership of people's intellectual property to keep him afloat. Unless he had to sell all of it, which I don't know the details of, but I think that he would have a nice little head starter. He could live off what he's. I mean, couldn't he live off royalties and properties? Right now? Even if you. I'm thinking if he went from. Even from a being worth a billion being worth 100 million. I don't know how to g. I don't know enough to know either. That's what I'm really asking. But it seems like I know he know I know how much he had at one point. Like you said, intellectual property of people, right? That seems enough to survive off of. I think there are people who have been going, look at Mike Tyson, for example, right? Mike Tyson was convicted, came back, won a championship again and became famous again. And he was found guilty. But there's a big chunk of people who thought he got a raw deal. I think with Puff, there's enough people. Puff will never be the Martha Stewart. You know the difference in that though? Yeah. Video, no and boxing and music. Not even video changes shit. That's true. Seeing it. Seeing it right there in real time changes it all. I think everybody's seen it. I think it'll be a blemish on his record for the history of time. I think Puff is gonna come out, start doing anti drug shit saying that he was high. People have already attest to him always being high. I was out of my right mind. I made some mistakes. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He can't never shake the video. But I think financially he can rebound from this because I think motherfuckers is fickle. Yeah, I think people are fickle and they really don't care about it as much as they might say in the public framing of things. I think that when it come to, yo, puff could bring $20 million over here quarterly. I think niggas will forget that this girl got beat up, unfortunately. And there's another piece to this that I think which might be off the beaten path. I might be way off on this. But there's an opportunity For Puff to be a public celebrity spokesman. No, no, no. I'm going somewhere totally different. I mean, one day he could be a spokesman for something or other. But this whole sexuality thing is a new lane. I mean, there's no secrets about Puff's sexual identity, who he's with, what he likes to do, how he gets down. There's a whole world out there that he could. There's a whole Pardon expression, untapped world that he could start to tack around partying, around sex, around fluidity, all that stuff. I mean, there's a whole world that would embrace him. He could be the party king in my. I mean, there's all kinds of lanes for him. If it was just about money. Now, that might not be the legacy or the image he wants to have. That might not be how he sees himself. But I'm just saying there's a lot of stuff that's come out. I'm about to say for. For. For what you saying happened. He would have to claim that fluidity, and we've never seen him do that. But he couldn't be based on what he would have. Potentially. He couldn't. That's true. I'm saying now, if he wanted to, he could. I'm not saying he could. That's a hell of a lane. Now, he could. I don't know about that joke. The girl said that. I don't know about that. The girl said that. That he would make her keep the. The ejaculate. Ejaculant on him and come in the room and rub another nigga's come on his nipples. Right? That's what she said. So now there's a whole. Those are the souvenirs I was talking about. Yeah. She didn't say. That doesn't make him gay. Yeah, and don't. Nobody said anything about. Make him buy. Nobody said anything. Just saying makes him have kinks that he. He would have hid progressive as the next guy. But hold on. No, it doesn't, though. It doesn't. I'm with you. This is the opposite day. Wait a minute. Y' all telling me that the dude that says, hey, come on in. I know you were getting pounded by some guy and he netted on you now, but that doesn't make him gay. What does it make him? It doesn't make him freak. It make him freaky. It makes him nasty or freaky among somebody's eyes, but that don't make him. That don't make him gay. That's true. You all are correct, and I'm wrong. And I'm not being sarcastic. You're absolutely correct. I guess what I'm saying is, is I can't. I've never met anyone who wanted those things to happen who was not. Also. How would you know that? How would you know that speaks to what we. And that's. That speaks to your whole thing. All of those things, they were. He was hiding for years now because it's been open to the public. He can now come out, embrace that and get embraced. I stand down. You're 100% right. I'm. I'm being too narrow minded on this. You. You absolutely. But no, you introduced it. Yeah, I'm saying you're right. I'm saying my instinct is probably homophobic. My first instinct is yeah, if a nigga want some other dudes come rubbed on his nipples, he might be gay, but ding, ding, ding. Anything is possible. True. And there's a lot of flu. But I'm saying that you're right. That is the whole point. But look dog, even if you what you think the freaky people in the educated community, the conscious educated black community is on. Like what type of freaky shit you think they on? I don't know. I don't go in no ser. Man, them native wearing. Oh them no deodorant wearing dreadlocks. Hey, watch your mouth. Is flip, flip, flip Mark. No, I don't know anything. I bet you though. Busting all over these market stocks. Turn the page 59 cut that dress and bring it back to his you play with niggas dress. What? Oh man. Anyway, we'll stay tuned to this. Yes. We will not be reporting on this every pod. Yeah, no, thank God, because I just can't. But it's a lot. It's a lot. I beg to differ because I think what's gonna happen every three to four days get a whopper. Something's gonna come out. Yeah. Somebody's testimony is gonna be newsworthy to where we gonna have to come in and address. We might not go, you know, deep dive, but I think something's gonna come out every three to four days that has to be talked about. I don't think so. I don't see it like that. We'll see. Okay. Or this gonna be super short. Or they could think a lot more is. Well they should. They're actually involved in the trial. They could think a lot more is newsworthy than we to. To report on. Like we didn't say a word about all of the Dawn Richards shit. The Cassie friend. But things came out. No, but I'm saying. But in the next three days. You get what I'm saying? The next three days, somebody will probably hit the stand that has some shit that is reportable. A lot of it's gonna be to talk to all that straight behavior that y' all just talked about. A lot of it may come out in trial transcripts when they start interviewing escorts and things like that. We're gonna hear some wild sexual shit that's going to turn in for people jokes into fodder, into debates. And that might be the. We end up talking about not like the childist stuff, but that. But like all of the funny. Oh, yeah. All the reduced. Yeah. That is absolutely not gay. Poor Chef. That'll be short. Taking the stand. That's all I keep asking that he better not. Well, you know, he got a book coming out now, so I think he's saving his material for the book. Do you believe me now? Now, Chop. September. That's what his book is called. Dead ass. Believe me now? Wait, what's this book called? Do you believe me now? And it's him on the COVID like it's. I seen you. Cole wrote that. You got it in stock. It comes out September. Did you co Write it? It comes out in September. And I can't believe you doing the forward. I have absolutely nothing to do. I did talk to Al and I have. He gave me some of the things off the record that I have not published. But I'm excited to see the public find out the things that he told me. He promised me an interview and then he got the book deal and said that I had to hold the information, but it will come out in September. So it's some stuff in there. And I'll just say this. I don't know if it's true or not, but if half of what Al B. Sure has told me is true. Puff is worse than we thought could ever thought he could be. Oh, I could believe that. And I've heard. I thought I heard everything. I heard. We sure talk. Some of that shit sounds so left. I'm not saying it's not possible. Yeah. Because power is power. Some of that shit is so left. It's like some TV shit, right? And that's why he's like, you believe me now? Because he feels like the case is being made for what he said. Yeah. Can I ask you a real stupid question before we do this prospect? Should be fast. What's up? Humans don't eat hippopotamus, do they? No. Maybe somewhere. Probably somewhere y' all haven't eaten. No, no, no. Would you? Yes. No, I'll try it. No. Well, maybe. Absolutely not. Probably. Don't call me close minded, bro. I'm good. Chicken is just fine. Why Dan had stumped me all yesterday that humans don't eat. It's a big beefy. I just. Who said they don't? Don't. It's a big beefy animal. Like in some parts of Africa. It is consumed and has been for a long time. Yeah. Ain't like we just got hippos running around on the farm. Why we. Why we don't eat that over here? We not eating no hippo. We, you know, winners. They're not here. Stop. Hippos are like, you got cows. Hippos are crazy. Hippos are crazy. You can't keep them like cows. Yeah, yeah. Tear that whole shit up. You're not just grazing the hippos. Look, it says. It says hippos do what they want. Look. Hippo meat is not commonly consumed, but those who have tried it describe the taste as somewhat similar to beef, though it can be tougher and gamier. The meat is said to have had that a rich, fatty flavor and it's often compared to other large game animals. So do with it. Yeah, but you ain't risking your life for a tough ass. Nah. Yeah. Yeah. That don't sound good. Yeah, it ain't worth it. Chaotic. Like deer tough. They don't play hippos. Hippos don't play at all. No. Hippos don't. Strongest bite and all that other dumb. Who the hippos are. Yeah. No one wants to do it. Yeah. Let me get that cow right there. Yo. Your bunch training, yo. Would you try it, hippo? Yeah. No, but I'm gonna try human. All right. All right. It's time for my favorite part of the show. Favorite part of the show, dog. I love this part. I need friends that don't get so taken aback by just my normal thoughts. Like, what was wrong with what I just. You want to eat. You want. You want to be a cannibal? I think the normal thought was the hippo party say, no, no, no. Him saying, I want to eat human. No. Oh, hippo's too far for me. I want to try human. That was crazy to me. Why? Saying you want to try human? Not if I was in, you know, some. A dire situation and if I was stuck, I would do it. You didn't say that. You said it like, I wish it was a restaurant across the street where I could walk in and say, yo, let me get. Yo, let me get that nigga arm. Hey, you can't say that. Yo, let me get. Yo, let me get a quarter pound. What you talking about, bro? You don't think that's off a little bit? Not at all. What part of the human you. But long ago, I've accepted that. That you. Yeah, that you think different. Yeah. Do you see individual humans and be like, yo, they might taste. I wonder what Sharon tastes like now. What kind of human PhD brother thinks I'm crazy too now. No, I'm. No, no. What I'm telling you how you want your human to look? Ice. Trying to be. Look, I. I'm asking you. You want one that was in the park running with the tough muscles or you want the fat with little more lean? I think that somewhere in the world, human meat is being sold on the Dark Web. And I think that people that have tried human meat. Actually, I've seen people that have tried human meat speak about it, and they say it's to die for. No pun intended. Really? They say that it is some of the best meat you could try. I wouldn't know that because I'm not killing anyone and I'm not on the Dark Web. But if one of y' all happened to. To pass out or have some untimely thing happen to y' all, I am going to fry a little slice. A little slice of you I got to see. So. Yeah, okay. Yeah, that's all. See them docs. Them docs will you up, son. So humans eating bats and all that other don't gross you out, but human to human, I don't gross, like out. Don't none of that gross me out. Human. Human is some human. Yeah, that's where it's a little. I'm cool. Eating your own is a little different. Oh, please. Put some salt and pepper right on one of you. Let me get some Tabasco. I'll put some old B right on one of you talking about. All right, it's time for my favorite part of the show, PR and if I've never said it before, I absolutely love prize picks. I just want to start there, man. It's a flip comment. I'm not sure if I've said it before, but prize picks. So I'm rolling with guns and places. Let me tell you what it is, though. Yeah, we got the number one deal. Yeah. What's Prize picks, Joe? Prize picks is. Would y' all shut up? Prize picks is the best place it's been. The best. 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Jalen Brunson for more than two three pointers and he's got TJ McConnell here for more than 6.0. I'm going with OG and Anobi go with OG for whatever's there. Just whatever. A whole lot of paces up here for nothing. We going with OG for whatever's there. Again, if you download the app right this second and use promo code Jake, you get $50 instantly when you play your first $5 lineup. I repeat, for the people in the back, if you download prize picks right this second and use promo code JBP, you get $50 instantly when you play your first five dollar lineup. So good luck to all participants out there and run your game. All right, who you said before prize picks, you kind of joking about wanting to eat people and maybe eating somebody here. If you had to eat somebody on the cast, who would you choose and why? Well, hopefully I wouldn't have to make that choice, but I mean, if I had to shit everybody here fat. Parks is tall. That couch is fat. He's fat. I won't say Mel. I've dealt with that shit before. Nope. Ain't getting me there. How about you? Who would you eat on the cast? Ah, hey, I would think be easy. What I was thinking of the male cast. Yeah, the. The only one here. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I wouldn't eat Mel because she's too lean and healthy. You want. You. You want. You want fat meat? I think it'd be you, Flip. You'll get up when you go. You ain't punch right in your shit. All that Malcolm X ain't gonna help you. You get up lean and healthy. We know, brother. You gonna learn, brother. Welcome man at home. Make sure your feet is nice and clean. Spend some time on that welcome man before you walk in. So you eat me parts. And don't let your keys jiggle. Jiggle at the door. Don't let. You gotta go sideways. You got a quick insert. Yeah, quick insert turn. You know what I mean? It's a fact. Same reason I wouldn't eat parts. He's too healthy. Look at him. He lean. Ain't nothing there. Yeah, they probably flip. It be flip. Oh, it be flip. Got it. Got it. Yeah. Can we talk about something that's not so sad? I know. We got the boat. The boat cross New Orleans coming up later. Everything is said New Orleans. This is funny now. That's kind of. Them went live. Wait, tell me, tell me. I don't know. The New Orleans escaped, right? How many? How many of them? 11. 11. 11 of them escaped from a new world. They captured. Yeah, they captured four. And now the Internet, since we stupid. The Internet is placing bets on who will be the last man. Man standing. One of them went live and said, I'm free and got come on in. Right. Right after that. Shut up. Not lying. You lying. Yo, yo, look, we. We free. Get down, Rashi. You lying. They wild as they caught the other sleep on the bus stop. On the bus stop. Yeah. Yeah, I heard about that. Some of these is breaking out. He should have went back. Yeah, he should have went back. Can you have a way to go? That's why you shouldn't have left. Indeed. I mean, and this was a jail, not a prison, right? So some of these. These people hadn't even gotten convicted yet. I don't know. Or it might have been short or they had a year or two. I'm just. I hope you didn't break. If I'm racially profiling as I'm looking at the pic, they're guilty. Come on. That's not nice. What? I said if I'm racially. All right. I'm just saying, if you in jail, it either mean. It either mean you didn't get convicted or you got a real shit them wrote on the wall on. Too easy. That's kind of funny. Too easy. I knew they did it because in the escape video, they didn't run the fastest to get away. Nah, they hit him with a light little job. Well, you can't run. That's too obvious. And the highway is there, but they Walked right across. I think they don't have that much manpower at that, whatever that. Wherever that was, you know what I mean? But niggas is going live. They sleeping on benches. They going shopping. I'm wondering where they get their clothes. Clothes from. Like, are they stopping places and like that? Like, they. Some one of them they caught, he had that on. I said, oh, he goes shopping out there. New Orleans get dressed like that. It was like this. Yeah, they catching them, yo. Now how did all of them escape? Do we know? Through a hole. They busted out a toilet or something. Or something. And they wrote too easy on the wall. Now, it wasn't no barbed wire Gatorade or nothing outside. Oh, I don't know about that. We just seen the picture of the inside. Yeah, we just saw the whole. This for me, is not the flyest jailbreak that I've ever seen. No. I don't even know if it's in the top three. Nah. Number one for me is still the dude on the Netflix doc. We live through it. So we didn't need that Netflix dog. But that was in the relationship with the older white. But that wouldn't be number one. But that's number one. She walked him out of the back door outside. Walked outside and got in a cop car and took him. That's fly. How else do you do it? How do you do it? Fly than that. Okay, I see what you now. Rest in peace to the lady, cuz. She and he got. She self transitioned. Yeah, yeah. And in that. It's that game. I can't say it, but. But what? You can't say. I can't. I can't. I. I'll say it. No, cuz this is a family show show. It's not. You stop changing the title of the show each time. Music show. Family show. Please. Enough. You. You. Cause conf. Like y' all can catch on a. Like me. It confuses me. It's a family show. It's not a family show. It's only a music show when ice and parks get in their bag. So right now. It's a family show right now. Family show right now. Okay, so we can't say we talk about nutty nipples. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Mark. And eating humans. Yeah. We can't say how Homie got it all off the tall white. What he did. He caught a leg. He caught. He had her open that mouth game. He had her open. That's the you be doing. You would have been out that lady haven't felt like that in years. Rest in peace to Her. I'm not trying to make fun, but the way he got out, she walked that right on. And she retired. Oh yeah. That's why it's the flyers too. She was a month away from retirement. They got to. Actually she had served heard anyway. Why. Why do people. Cuz I. I pay a lot of attention to prison and breaks. Why do people never go nowhere reasonable? Like half the time when you get caught, you get caught going back to your own hood. They don't got no money. And where you gonna go? All right, you only know what you ain't got no phone. If I break out of jail, I'm. At least try. You're not locking me up in my own two blocks from my house. So where you going? Where you going though? Far. Like how. Play it out, okay. You don't have no money, you don't have no phone. You're watching. Lay it out. Okay. And they got your picture everywhere. First of all, they usually don't. I mean, this is. I mean usually you got. You got like a solid 12 to 24. I'll give you a perfect example at CFCF in Philly, right? That's my brother was before he got sentenced. Two guys broke out about last year. They got out, no one knew they were missing for like two days. They did the guard count. They had the count wrong. Guards still didn't pay attention. Two days later, you said 48 hours to go anywhere they want. With nothing on the news, dude went from northeast Philly to west Philly. And he was walking around. At least this dude was wearing a hijab. He dressed up, he was smart. How they catch him? Because he went to, quote, go find his opps dog. When it's up, it's up. I grew up in a jail time that deserved to be caught. I. I was so mad, I'd be embarrassed to go back to the jail. But let me ask you, where you going to get money from? That's one. Did he catch the ops? No, he caught the cops. Yo, some of these prisons, I grew up in a jail town and there was an escape back in the early 2000s. It was national news and all that. But there, it's like the woods out there. Like. Yeah, I know. Like right where the prison is at. Like once you get out of there, you're not. Not just hopping on a fucking train or some shit that don't exist there. I see getting caught, Elmir. But in New Orleans or in northeast Philly, once you get on the bus or the train that you on, just keep Going past your normal stop, whatever stop you get off of. Keep at least do how you get on the bus and when you get off. No, when you get off at the last stop, where you go look, it's a great point. You make it. Maybe getting caught is inevitable, but I would feel embarrassed getting locked up in my house. I'd go to the Home Depot. I'd be in Delaware at least and take some wood, put it on people cars and cheat rocking. Make a couple dollars. That's the kind of I would do. Do something. I escape from jail, I'm gonna get some pussy. That's what most of them do. I'm going to my girl house. I'm going to beat that thing. You're going to your girl house? This you won't get no coochie. He can. Yeah, he will. They might catch me there. It won't take long. How long you think it take me? I thought they won't take long. Post it up at your mother house, your girl house and all of that before you even get. That's what I'm saying, dog. Yeah. Catch me so much. I don't do crime to have to. I avoid these. I done jerked off all them years I was locked up. I'm going to. How many years you locked up? I hope they catch me in Hawaii. So I was like, no, I'm good. Hopefully you be in Hawaii lit. You going get caught, you probably making the news. You making the news out there with some blonde dreads and a tan. Hawaii ain't the best place to go to, by the way. It's out of the way. Yo. You want to go to a different country? I think. Yeah, that's true too. If I'm going leave. If I'm going to fly eight hours over water, I'm. I'm going to another country. It's going to be. It's going to be hard to catch. Hawaii. Yes. Yes. Are y' all talking about Y? What? Y' all ain't flying nowhere. That's what I'm saying. Hawaii probably ain't going to happen. Talking about. Stop watching. I got shout out to the brother when. When he was on the run. He went from New York to Atlanta and he was working in. He was working in like a market. He had a whole other life. He got a new id, new Social Security car, new driver's license. He got a whole new world. That's the I would be. Went on a run from the little Tay K. Went on a run from Dallas and was found in Elizabeth, New Jersey, in the Basement. I respect that. I was and made a. A video on hate. Why Want to run? That's all I'm saying. This is what y' all respect. No, I respect the run. I respect the effort. I respect the effort in the run. Respect the effort. You is hood. Respect the effort you got is weird. Oh, no, no. They. They, they. I don't know their crimes. I'm just saying. No, no, no. Don't worry. Don't worry about it. They. They got. They got it. Yo, Mark. Mark. Some. You know, sometimes they get it wrong. This one they got right. They hit the nail on head with that one. But did y' all hear Johnny Gill say that Stevie wanted to beat him in a game of air hockey? He said he beat him. Ralph, Tres Van ke. Like he beat a few of them in air hockey. Told him never to tell anybody. Speak nothing of this. I believe it. That's a. Yo, y' all ain't gonna keep lying to me just for the people that still believe. Stevie Wonder's blind. Yeah, Stevie1 is. Is definitely blind. He's just gifted. But blind don't have to mean you can see. Legally blind. I learned that too. Blind don't mean you don't see nothing. Like absol. Is blind, but he can see. Like legally blind. Legally blind. Okay. Got you. I think that's what Stevie got. No, that can't see. That ain't going to fool me. He's a genius, y' all. Cuz if he can see, then he's just a hit maker, right? If he blind, he has a gentleman genius. I. I like what? Wait, that. Playing the drums. He just got them slaps, right? But he. He blind. I think him a genius. That's part of the genius. The was 8. Playing the drums and the keyboard, singing. He. A lot of kids in church do that. Not the blind ones. Once a become blind is a different level. That's all I'm saying. Stevie. Stevie's. That they didn't write. That's part of the gym Master Blaster and all that other. What are you talking about? Mark on with this. Oh, my gracious. Oh, Harmonica. You can't just in your white bag today. It's about time. It's the though. This was luck. N. This was. This was. I mean, like. No, think about this. No, no, no, I'm serious. And I say this. I say this every year in the playoffs. In order to win a title, you have to be good and lucky if I just told you Boston's gonna be up for their first two home games by 20 points. And they're gonna lose both of them. You have to have a little luck on your side. And the Knicks got lucky. We broke an NBA record for misses. We didn't expect that, like coming to you. We're saying, oh, you know, Mike check. Mike check. One, two, one, two, Mike check. Here we go. You might need things for Starbucks. Yo, silence. From whose team? Silence. Because in game three, we were down 20 points. And we cry about it, Paul. And one in a game. We're not supposed to cry about it. I'm not even looking at the Knicks like they just outplayed us. They probably outworked them. They probably like, got some hustle and some calls there and we missed shots. I'm not out here going to revamp. Like, if we came back healthy. I'm not. It's not a. You think about this when you win a championship you like. All right, we need this. We need that. Broke that team right the up. We need to remap our roster. Mike shack. Mike check. One, two, one, two. I saw think about this. You have two boxers go 12 rounds. I'll beat you up 11. And then you caught me at the 12 and I shut the up. What the you talking about? Watch your mouth idea. And I like. Jalen Brunson's a fight player. But if Wild's pal Bill Simmons put it perfectly when he called it the saddest sweepstakes ever. The Jalen Brunson sweepstakes. Jalen Brunson, one of the. Mike Jake. Mike Jake. One, two, one two point guards. Yeah. I mean, looks like I've lost the room. Not at all. I'm here. Stay strong. Part of some CAA master stroke of all. Now we have these guys. Shut your ass up real quick. Shout out some of the Nick legends. Yummy. Alan Houston, Larry Johnson, Latrell Spreewell, Chris Childs. Oh, Jerry Dudley and all that. Little step on Marbury and all that. Hold up for a minute, man. Are these talking about we're gonna sweep them 4 to 0 trash. I hate New York. Everything about him. We're gonna beat him in four, 10 days. Overpaid, trying to beat us. Spend all the money and they can't even come close. Just listen. Yo. Easter Conference finals. Long, long, long. 25 years. If you a Knick fan under 25, you've never seen anything like. Like this. If you're a Nick fan that was just born. Ish. Find something safe to watch. Don't watch me. I don't need with when I'm in my bag. I don't need with hazel eyes looking at me at all. Nigga. Yeah. I mean if you're a Nick fan 25 and under, you've never seen anything like this. If you're a Nick fan from back in the day, a little older then this was a long time in the making. Took care of the Pistons. Hopefully Jared Jack is having fun with his tilapia. I hope he's doing something a little better. Hope he's finding something constructive to do with his time. Him. Cade Cunningham. Sure glad I don't have to hear that name again. Cade Cunningham. What Jared said. Beef Stew. Beef Stew. Cute nickname. We do hope that Jayson Tatum is recovering. We do. That's our man. This is. But as far as the rest of them niggas, pack it up. Pack him up. Pack him up. Go on. Shout out to the wild white boy. Nick fans that was climbing the billboard facts climbing the building. I saw you Any y' all ever want to know why Joe Budden leaves early? Just look at Nick fans outside of Madison Square Garden. Niggas was outside. He the beat the defending champions. Got him out. We didn't beat. We didn't be the Nuggets team that just fired their head coach three games before the season started. We didn't. We didn't do that. Nah. We didn't take advantage of a cavalier team that wasn't full strength. We didn't do that. Nope. Just took care of the defending champions when nobody said it could be. All experts had to sell winning. Turns out they were wrong. I like to wait till the game is over to get in my bag. I'm not like Mark. Mark come in and do all of this hootenanny, all of this yelling when it's still one game to be played. And what do you know? That was the biggest and best Nick victory probably in a lot of our lifetimes. Smacked him by 40. I downloaded the app on my phone to watch the game from the bar. Why not? But then why not? After the second quarter, I was like, I actually don't have to watch this at all. Didn't matter. We was up 38. Still. I didn't want to see no4nothing run from the Celtics. I didn't want to see that. Anytime. The nigga shot a little three in the free throw. The Knick fan. And I said, coming back, Knick fans, they had a lot of good times in the last 30 years. We got Patrick Ewing blown layups. We got Reggie Miller scoring nine points in eight seconds. We got Charles Smith missing every fucking layup he could under the rim. We got John Starks going 2 for 19 with a healthy Hubert Davis and Ronaldo Blackman on the fucking bench. Like what are we talking about here? If you in New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, if you anywhere to get hot 97. Hey some parts of Philly, then we should be rejoiced right now. It's a good time to be in New York. Facts. I want to shout out Jalen Brunson the best player left in the playoffs. I said it. I said. I said what? I said yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I said in the playoffs. Maybe not the best player is SGA out. No. Jalen Brunson has been and is the best player remaining in the playoffs. You think he better than SGA in the playoffs? I'm saying what I'm trying to say in the playoffs. Yes. Is and has been. Is and has been. Hopefully we get to see him. Hopefully they make it. I have the Wolves beating them. I know I'm the only one here that has them. He'd be better than anti. I like the Wolves in this. Do you? Yeah, I do. I like the Wolves, but it's just. I want to see Ant man go. I want to see him win one. I got the Wolves. I got. If the. If the Thunder beat the Wolves, it'll be in seven. I just like how the Wolves match up with them. I love what Julius Randle is doing. I love. I love that all remaining team in the conference finals having won one have a Knick on their team that helped them get there. Julius Randle, Obie topping on the Pacers. Ah. Huh. Different diva. Denzel over there. Over there. Hartenstein. Hartenstein on the Thunder. I love that former Knicks have helped these teams get to where they need to go. Go nightmare. And I'm so glad that we will never see this iteration of the Celtics ever again. Ever again. We took care of the Celtics for y' all for this, this playoff and most of next season. And some people got the nerve to breathe New York air and have an attitude with that. Oh, I do. Go Pacers. They gonna go. I'm rooting for the Pacer. Don't worry. They'll go fishing. They gonna go. They next. And he not having a better than. I'm rooting for the P6. Thibodeau is sitting with Adam Silver right now, showing him a map of Indianapolis and a map of New York City. Y' all heard Eric Adams, man. Hey, some of them cities, I mean, Kansas or whatever. New York just got a different. The NBA want New York to Win. Exactly. For sure fixes it. I mean, if we're saying that, then what happened the last 30 years? No, it's not just for this year. The west now. Yeah. The west is only presenting a small market team. You only get the Indiana. Oklahoma will be a nightmare for the NBA. Yes. Minnesota. Indiana is horrible for the league. New York Knicks, Ben Stiller, you on the second row. But all them niggas in the final. When you get close to the finals, your seats move back. Back, cuz. Watch your mouth. Watch mouth. Well, y' all was in the first row for non playoff team, right? Watch y mouth. Y was in the first row of your draft lottery team. I think those tickets are real cheap. Yeah. $60. Had a 50. 53. 53.99. You get them tickets on Grubhub? You talking about the lottery team? No, the highest tickets. That's. That is crazy right now. That is. I'm going. Game one, please. Oh, thank God you are. I'm going tomorrow. Tonight. Tonight. Tonight. There you go, Joe. Oh, perfect game. Warners tonight. I'll be in the building. That'll be fine. I'll come up. My man Lloyd Pierce is the head assistant on the Pacers. He'll. They'll breathe easy, though. You're going to be there. Yeah, right. I text JJ too. James Johnson, have you won. Have you been to win or win this playoff? Excuse me. Have I been to or win this playoffs? Yeah. I don't remember now. I don't remember. There's a. No. Well, my memory's bad. I don't know. Cory's saying no. I'm going by. You lost it against Detroit and you didn't see any wins against Boston because you gave away the last seats, right? So. Gave them to my dad. My dad and his. I seen Jack. They got all the TV time in that motherfucker. I seen Jack right next to him. I couldn't have been more excited for them. Right, right. To be seated behind Bad Bunny. I know that. My dad's wife absolutely loves Bad Bunny, so. Yeah. That was amazing. I throw the parks. You guys. You got to send them again. Joe, button seats ain't bad, man. Sit your button senior out there, you know, I mean. Yeah, man. Go Nicks. Go Nicks. Go Nicks. Go Nicks. Go Nicks. That's it, man. I ain't going. I ain't going to do too much right now. Where were you when you watch the games, huh? Yeah, I was home. Crazy. I was home. You already knew it was that. Yeah, yeah. Nick fans deserved a Stress free watch. Right. Like being up 40 every game has been decided by three. Two points wasn't nickish. Cause y' all went. Y' all be scratching and clawing for all y' all wins. Like y' all gritty and y' all thug it up. It's dope. Oh, I'll take the 90.1. I kept saying that if you watch this Knicks this year that you know that they can score 140. Like they can do that. They just have haven't done it so good. Good to see that version of them pop up. This Pacers team is deep. I have a healthy respect for them and I'm an old school Knick fan. So that means that I'm fully aware of the damage that the Pacers do. The Davis brothers Pacer trouble. We. Yeah. We've seen the Pacers the last four times we've made it to the Eastern Conference final. Dayton Becky back to 94. 94. 95. I want to say so. And even in more recent years that. That the Hibbert mellow block in 2013. Yeah. In game five last year when we watched every Nick deteriorate against the Pacers and still took him to seven. I absolutely love Rick Carlisle. So this should be a good series. I might go to. I might go to Indiana for one of those games. That's not bad. Yeah. I might go out there for one of them games with Teague and Zaire and them. That might be a good idea. And those tickets should be 11. They cheap as hell. They should be about. They should be about 28.50.14 with tax. With a free T shirt. You going out there wearing that gear, huh? No. You wouldn't. You wouldn't do that. No. I don't understand fans would do that. I do that. I was in Boston one time. Might have been 2000. And when was. When was the World Series? 0203. Some way back then. And I had a Yankee hat on. I didn't know. Me neither. And it wasn't. It wasn't nice. I experienced the same thing. It wasn't fun at all. So I vowed to never do that again. Homeboy. They had that Pacer jersey on that ran through the Garden. I don't. I don't get the thinking. That was crazy. I don't get you. You asking people to play with you. A certain like you asking sport fans to be logical and healthy and peaceful and that's their most. Most hype. Yeah. I don't see drunkest. And I thought they took it easy on Them. They did, they did. They did. They just dumped the trash, hit him with a pizza slice or two. Yeah, that's it. Some go, Nick. Speaking of Indianapolis. Yes, I know Mark was pretty hot about the Caitlin Clark foul. I was. And apparently I hate women. According to my social media platform, black women in particular. Have they ever heard you, nigga? There is nothing more irrational than people embroiled in the Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese feud debate, whatever. It is really the heart of the race wars of the last year and a half. Dead ass. Like, it's ridiculous. So the people that don't know it was opening night, opening game, marquee game, wnba. And of course, their teams are playing Chicago's playing Indiana. And. And Caitlyn took a foul on Angel Reese earlier in the play, angel had shoved one of Caitlyn's teammates. I think that's important to add too. Caitlyn gets Caitlin fouls her, but she doesn't just foul her. She does push her. Now, I think angel put a little extra sauce on her. Yeah, I thought she put the. She hit the dice, which again, you're supposed to do. That's not a knock. You're supposed to. I mean, you embellish it to make sure you get the foul, especially when you're big. Getting pushed by a little person. And they did that. Angel jumped up, up like she. Like she wanted smoke. And she was like, what the fuck is wrong with you? You effing crazy. You fucking crazy what she said. Exactly, exactly, exactly. And so they had this whole exchange, and all I said was that Angel Reese overreacted. To me. She overreacted to the foul. Given the context. Okay. And I got so many texts and messages about how I don't stand up for black women that, you know, this is an example of why black women can't be protected. But did you stand up, up a black woman in this instance? I think that's a different question, but I would say no. Whose side were you on? Kaitin Clark's side? You know, I a say I was on Caitlyn's side. I just thought Age overreacted. I thought Caitlyn took a bad foul. I thought. I thought. So you think the black girl overreacted? Ab. Absolutely. Okay. Absolutely. Absolutely. You hear out there? Got him. Run your game. Hear that, Angela Rock. But to me, it's just basketball. To me, that's the point is that I was trying to see if I could find some of the tweets, but it was. I screenshotted it, but it was a. To me, it was just a basketball player. But it turns into this whole race war thing where it's like if you choose one person or the other, then it means that you either don't stand up for black people or you're a coon. Your Uncle Todd. Yes, I saw that. It's these extreme positions too extreme over a fucking basketball game. And the truth is, is Caitlin Clark does. They don't like each other and they do foul each other hard. She clotheslined Kaitlyn last year. You know what I mean? Caitlyn plays Karen and act like, I don't know, I just took a foul. I mean they both do bullshit. But to me it's just basketball and I wish it could just be basketball. That's it. What's your response? If you've ever seen Angel Reese foul Caitlin Clark, then this should be a non issue. Angel Reese has attempted to clothesline and take Caitlin Clark's head off. Head off of her shoulders. Yeah, yeah. At least ten times. One, two. I mean Angel Reese is a little. Little what? What you say? I might be back in the game. Come on, say it, say it, say it. I might be back in the game here. I need. You know what, homie, what you trying to say? She overreacts. She overreacts to things at times. Like Mark said, the foul where she just knocked her, knocked Caitlin's teammate on the floor. And Caitlin pointed and said, hey ref, we're not looking at that. At that point she goes to push her. She's defending her teammate. It's a basketball play. I'm always on the side of the black girl. And I don't think that it needs to be a race war, just not when it comes to Kaitlyn. Okay, cease you think? Have we accepted. Have we accepted him all? Take Caitlin Clark out of all y' all old. Have we accepted it though? Have we accepted it? Everybody's accepted it except for Angel Reese. Except the what? That Caitlin Clark is a great white hope. That Caitlin Clark is going to be the reason that everybody here gets paid. That's it. That I can agree with. And it won't do it. And I don't think it'll be her alone. But for the time time being, it's large part her. I think juju will come and have something to say about that. What's the girl that went number one this year? Paige. Paige. Paige. I like. There's somebody else coming out next year that I like and this is as a casual, casual fan. Juju. No, outside of juju. The other girl. Somebody else coming out from Notre Dame. The two. Maybe the two girls from Notre Dame might come out. That's what I'm saying. I don't think so. I think that the W. The W. It will be in a great place. Is in a great place and will continue to be in a great place. But injury is just extra. She is extra. Do you feel like how they both handled the off season speaks volumes? Like how Angel Reese was outside podcast? See, that's the part I don't like. I feel like. Hold on. I feel like the press conference. The press conferences speak. They matter. And I won't lie. That's my favorite part of this whole kerfuffle. They panned to Caitlin Clark and the Fever. Big lice. Long table that they don't sell at Lowe's. Not one of them little folding tables. Lot of elbow space. Charcuterie. It was beer. I think I saw a Boost Mobile sign in the bag. It was sponsored. Yo, the reporters gave Caitlin all the time to say what she needed to say. Say, man, it's a basketball player. You overreacting. Yada, yada, yada. They was like, all right, cool. And then she got up because she had. She was busy. She had things to do. They didn't bother her. She went on about her business. Then they panned to whatever team this girl was. Chicago episode. Stop. Stop. I wasn't looking for the team. They paying the Chicago the headaches. What was their name? Sky. Sky. Chicago Sky. Headaches. They paying to the headaches. Stop, wait. The camera was blurry. The camera was fuzzy. And they put Angel Reese in a locker with the step and repeat. That room was the size of a bathroom. I was like, yo, y' all have lost this battle. Hey, we shouldn't even be talking about nothing that happened on the court. If this how your press conference look in comparison to this? It looked like it was small. Like $17 went into that press conference. Y' all the ones that should be wiping Caitlin Clark blood off and making sure she's okay. She had 20, 10 and 10. You motherfuckers that don't even. That don't even have a room to hold a press conference in. Y' all the ones that should be. Shit. Y' all should be fucking. Maybe tutoring Caitlin Clark's cousins on how to play the younger cousins. Y' all should be doing something extra. So stop. Man. I'm dead ass, though. This is where the other side of the argument I do understand gets frustrated because I'm not on either side. I just try to. You just watch basketball. And if anybody has Seen Andrew Reese Shoot 24 shots, miss 27 shots, and just keep jumping up, hitting her head on the ring. Look, I fuck myself up, try and be funny. Somebody. Anybody watching the TV should be wanting to push. All right, go ahead. That's what I say. Angel, I think part of the problem is they want us to be Magic Bird, right? Yeah, but it is. No, but it is Magic and a bird. Ow. Man, what's wrong with you? Yo, it is, man. You can't say that. It is Magic versus Birds. Oh, look at this. Where y' all going? Look at the look. I meant like the game. Like. Mark, this was your segment. You eat a donut. This is Curry. Vers Bird. Jordan. Vers Bird. Come on. Yo, can y' all come work, please, man? Cuz this is Mark's segment. I ain't even supposed to be talking right now. Jack out to the Chicago Wind. What. What's their name? Sky. Sky. Magic versus. That was crazy. That was. That was completely out of pocket, man. So, Mark, they're attacking you right now, cuz you chose a. Yeah, but I ain't worried about that part. This is what I'll say. It's supposed to be a rivalry. I think the problem is one. I mean, Caitlyn Clark is a much better basketball player than injuries. Yeah, they're not on the side. Same tier. It's not Magic Bird. It's just not. Do you. Okay. I mean, just in terms of skill sets, Caitlyn is. Caitlyn is. Is at worst the second best player on her team and probably will be for the next 10 years, you know, along with, you know, it's Caitlyn Aaliyah and, you know, and those two are. I mean, that's a hell of a one, two punch. And they just. And they build a whole team around him. So it's. It's just two. It's just apples and oranges to me. I think we should be able to allow Angel Reese to be great and let Caitlin Clark be great without it being a rivalry in that way. It's not a rivalry in any way. No, I know black people don't want you to say that. It's not a rivalry. Do you think Caitlyn gets frustrated by they making the comparisons? I don't think Caitlyn does. Caitlyn is frustrated she has to share a court with. It is a rivalry. It's a rivalry since college. And the same way that Draymond Green might. Wait, what's the rival? Not. Wait, what's the rivalry? Come on. Freeze. Them two have Been going at each other. It was a college rivalry. Stop. Was a legit college rivalry. It was a legitimate college rivalry. And once they got to the league that rivalry, it would be like saying Draymond and Le. I mean, it's not perfect example, but St. Draymond LeBron have rivalry. They do right. What they did right when they. When. When Cleveland was playing Golden State. But they're not same. I get it. Adrian's not the top of the food chain on a championship team. I don't believe in the wnb. I don't see that happen. I think she still have more work to do. Dude. Is there room for her to get better? Hell yeah. I think she's a very good basketball player. She has a hell of a motor. She has a great motor. She has great. She has a great motor. She's a motor. You talking about mouth? No, no, no. Great, great, great energy. Great spirit. She plays hard. She's. She's a freakishly good. Cleaning up. Hey, hey. Pant him. She's a freakishly good rebounder. Got good touch. She. She does not touch. I'm talking about rebound and touch. Not scoring touch near the basket. That's her weak. But you just saying the. In the same category, but trying to separate it to make. Well, no, what I'm saying is it's not just that she gets 17 rebounds is because although she. I think 17 the other night. Got it. It's that she's probably the best rebounder WNBA has ever seen. Okay. Got it. Okay. Even when you. Even when you account for her Mrs. Okay. Still has high. Now we going crazy. This a fact going. Do you watch it as much as he does? I don't know how much you watch it. I watch WBA a lot, actually. But. But what I'm saying is even when you account for her misses, her offensive rebounds were still high. The highest in the league. Even when you take out the ones that were the Moses Malone offensive rebounds when she misses her own. That's all I was about to say. Got it. Okay. But the thing I don't like that I do agree with a lot of Angel Reese supporters in the off season is how they represent them. They'll take a white player and make. And they do this in the NBA too. Listen what I'm saying. Come on. And they're like Angel Reese is outside and while Caitlin Clark is in the gym. And that's just not true. Angel Reese was also in the gym. Now, I agree. She did podcasts. She did a whole bunch of other shit. She's also, like 24. Right. They decided Andrew Reese is young, too. Too. I mean. I mean, Caitlin Clark is young as well. Yeah. I don't know if Caitlin Clark was outside. She might have been the rodeo for the how, don't you know? Because of two reasons. One, how they present themselves, which I think is an important point. That's important, but also how the media represents. I'll give you a perfect example. When back when the Knicks had another period where y' all had hope and y' all thought y' all gonna be good was when Jeremy Lynn was here. Yes. I mean, I didn't, but remember that week of Lynn sanity? It was longer than a week. It was longer than a week. Let me be. I'm with you. I ain't fucking with you. But when he first had that run, I watched the ESPN commentators talk about Jeremy Lin at halftime. He goes into the locker room and watches the footage to see what he did wrong in the first half. He looks at as if Carmelo was in the corner shooting dice while he was doing that shit. Right. The whole team was doing that shit. But they made Danny McJeremy the Harvard grad, the intellectual, and sometimes they frame it that way at the expense of the other players. Caitlyn is great, but you're making excuses for Angel Reese. Cause Angel Reese was out here doing the stuff that they're accused of doing. She was on podcasts. She was in videos. But they were saying she wasn't in the gym. And I'm saying she was in the gym. She also had a broken wrist. So the idea. Okay, so that's why she wasn't in the gym. That's why she wasn't doing drill shooting jumpers. But she was in the gym working out every day. I don't think. You think. I know for a fact she was. And there is. And later, almost like her team had to show. Look, I. I'm in the gym, too. Oh, okay. All I'm saying is that I didn't know that. Once the narrative is about you, it's hard to break it, is all I'm saying. Mark, don't come here and try to gain back the favor you lost. I don't need to gain nothing. I hear you, Troy. Both things can be true. Angel does get represented unfairly, but that doesn't mean we can't criticize her. We should be able to do both. Yes. Let's just not do it in the same sentence as anything, CeCe. And that goes for Caitlin Clark, CNC Music Factory, CeCe Zabathilia. CeCe Zebathy. You. Chanel. Chanel, yes. No, sorry. Yeah, No, I agree. I don't think they're peers basketball wise. I. I mean, I don't. They're not in the same tier. They're not in the same tier. Yeah. But there are people who are on her tier that sometimes get ignored because of Caitlyn. The Asia Wilsons of the world, for example, you know what I mean? Who actually is the. To me, the best player, the dominant player in the league right now. Okay. You know what I mean? Wait, who's who? Asia Wilson. Asia Wilson. Okay. Yeah. So you think Asia gets ignored in some of the conversations? Yes. In some of the conversations, yes. I'm glad she started commercials and branding and things like that outside of WNBA purists. Like, a person who don't really watch the WNBA might not have never heard of A.J. wilson. Right. But we've heard of Caitlin Clark. We've heard of Angel Reese. We've heard of some of these other names who are not as good as her. Right. And that's all I'm saying. Yeah. So, yes, she does get a good. I just want. When we. The whole idea that Caitlin Clark is bringing all this money to The WNBA is 100, 100% true. Okay. We can't ignore that. But I don't want. But it only happens because of the labor of all these other people who helped build this thing up for the last 15, 20 years. And I think we got it. We got a whole space for both of those things because one, Caitlin Clark doesn't make the WNBA either. You know what I mean? It works because there's a great, talented league that she happens to be a great star on. Was that crazy? No, I disagree. I don't think people watch the WNBA and put all that money into it just because Caitlin Clark is not there. I think that's why they're doing it. I think it's about to say there's a lot of people watching now and putting more money into it because of her. No, what I'm saying is it's a. Actually happening, though. But there's a lot of talent in the league. All I'm saying is she's shining above a great amount of talent. And I just don't want to pretend that she's the only talented person in the league all of a sudden. But, you know, like, all I'm saying, you know, like, like the. Was it Indiana? They had to move their games to a bigger. She's a rock star. She's the biggest thing WNBA has ever seen. I'm not denying that. I'm saying we should acknowledge she's bringing the money. She also pulled up to Duke, wherever the Duke men team was at high school. Kay pulling up to gyms saying, yo, where. Where the. That ain't playing. It's like during spades when we locked in, the four is playing over there trying to get a game. Kaitlyn just pulling up the places and pulling that bow. Yeah, she's a. She's a baller. She's great. But. And this is where the library Magic Johnson thing would be apt. There's this. There was a narrative for one moment that Larry Bird back in. I'm talking like the late 70s, early 80s where Larry Bird was the hard worker. He was always in the gym. Magic Johnson was also in the gym doing. He also was obviously doing other stuff. But no, he wasn't on. All right. Nope. He was doing stuff. He said he wasn't just in the gym. I'm about to say, you know, you know, you gonna get yourself a trouble taking me down. Shout out to the brother, Magic Johnson, great brother. Listen, man, my point is he left the gym a lot early. Too early. Early. Sharon. Oh, yo. 120. The other pieces that I wanted y' all opinion on, and this might get controversial, I don't know, is the aftermath with Ryan Clark, Clark and RG3. Because now this is juicy. Because Ryan Clark. Oh, no. Search with RG3 analyzing the whole situation we just described, particularly the basketball part of it, and deciding that Angel Reese hates Caitlin Clark. That was his analysis. Yeah. He said Angel Reese hates Caitlyn Clark. And he said, I got five or six examples of this. You can see from the foul, you can see the way she responded that it's. That it's personal, she hates him, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That was the RG3 in that Ryan Clark, his colleague at ESPN, responds and basically says RG3. I'm paraphrasing, but RG3 is full of shit. He's wrong. And the reason he doesn't understand what happened and the reason he has this analysis is because he goes home to a white woman or he doesn't go home to a black woman. And so he doesn't understand black women, how they think, their emotions, et cetera. That's the gist of Ryan Clarkson analysis, which was a valid point. Which was a good. He says whack. I was whack. And dismissive. You don't know that just because he goes on to. He can have white sisters. He could have I mean, excuse me, he could have black sisters. He could have all these other women that are black in his life and still get and understand what they going through. I don't like how you just go right off and dismiss somebody's shit just because of who they go home to. I think you could. I think that's. I think you could look at people and tell. I think those. If we having an honest talk, you could look at somebody else. You could look at somebody and tell it's going to a white girl. Don't nobody look at. Well, I don't look at him and think a lot of them do. That's the point. I think more fair, I think more fairly. He said he works with him. He said he works with him in his conversations. But I think this, though, hold on, because I just want to give ice. Because even if. Even if ice is right, right. RC went on to say that while they work together, he has overheard Ryan Clark. I mean, not Ryan Clark, RG3, saying shit like whether he was joking or not. Boy, I love milk. I love this milk. Making a whole lot of I love milk. He's been posting that on Twitter for. We've seen him on Twitter behaving that way for a while. So I mean, I think when somebody behave like that. But I think. Let me do this real quick. Let me read what he actually said so we all on the same page so we can be honest about what he said. When RG3 jumps on to the hate train or the angry train, it now follows what we saw from Keith Olman and David Portnoy as they. David Portnoy as they poured onto Angel Reese to make her a villain and Caitlin Clark heroic. The one thing we know about RG3 is he's not having conversations at his home about what black women have to endure in this country, about what young black women and athletes like Angel Reese have had to deal with being on the opposite side of Caitlin Clark's rise and ascension into stardom. If you're RG3, when was the last time within your household you've had a conversation about what Angel Reese's deal? You haven't been able to do that because in both of your marriages, you've been married to white women. And then he goes on and on and on. And then this is the part that you just said. When I worked with RG3, he would make all of these sort of corny jokes about milk and how much he loved it and how important it was. And he always points out on social media the Color of his wife's skin. As if the color of her skin is what makes her special. As if the color of her skin is what makes her a good wife. I've met the lady. I've had a conversation with her. I think she's more than that. But it also leads to what black women deal with a lot from black men who have chose to date or marry outside of their race. So I'm just saying. I just think that context is important. Very important. Very important. I do get that. Does that change how you. How you. How you feel about what Ryan Clark said? Yeah. Yes. Yes. Because the way you said it first, I'm like, that don't necessarily. And that's one thing that was exactly saying it. Right. That's why I want to read it first. But he went in because he. Know him. He worked with him and gave some extra backstory. No, he. He's been. For a long time, actually. RG3. RG3 has been. He's been. He's been saying some wild. Take that. That for a long time. Approach to a lot of that. A lot. Yeah. I. If you go home to a white woman, you go home to a white woman. But RG3 is doing something else. According to Ryan. I don't know RG3, but according to Ryan Clark, he's doing something else. He seems like this. It's almost like he wants to be with her because she's white or he's obsessed with whiteness. Remember Hubert Davis? It sounds like he was like, I'm proud that my wife is white, which is different than I love my wife and she just happens to be white. Right. I'm proud that she's white is a different thing. I agree. And. And, And I think they caught my man Huber Davis lacking on that one. Yeah. And I don't think he meant it the way he said it. I don't think he did either. But he said it. And I definitely went in at the time. But, you know, I. If he said, look, I didn't mean it that way, I. I'd accept it. Why you ain't give him grace? You don't give grace. I give grace all the time, but I don't. Let's. Seriously. I don't know. I don't. From the day. I'm certain he was nervous. His alma mater, fucking Dean Smith was there forever. Long like he. I mean, Roy wins whoever he took the fucking job from. I'm saying, you know, that he's nervous sitting there having to give that speech. He should have Said it. I don't ride with what he said, but I know that he was nervous. Thank you. That's fair. That's fair. But just to not lose sight of this. My question was, would be. Still, even if that's true, even if RG3 is obsessed with whiteness and his white wife and all of that, does that still mean that he doesn't have the ability to understand Angel, Reese or black women? He's had a black mom. He probably has black siblings, maybe black sisters. I don't know. He's certainly been around black women. I mean, even if all that's true, it seems like the wife part might become almost like a easy. I don't call it cheap shot. But he could say he's not tuned into black women's experiences without doing the home thing. Because I think the home thing becomes a distraction. I think anytime you involve people's wife and kids, you're running the risk of looking away. And Ryan Clark is amazing, and I love Ryan, and I like the sentiment in a lot of things he said. But I think that some of the. Some of the jabs in the family realm or a little. It gets a little muddy. Audience. I know. Unnecessarily. Yeah, yeah. That wasn't necessary. He could have just. Even though I think he's right, I think he's right about RG3 based on what I've seen from RG3, not because of who his wife is. I'm saying RG3 does a lot of cornball shit. RG3 does a lot of shit where he seems obsessed with whiteness and white people and showing the world how connected the white people he is. And that makes me think he might not be empathetic to black women. If you were married to a black woman, I would say that based on what I've seen from. That's what I'm going to say. Like, I just think that who he is and how he's been representing himself over the last decade and a half, he just seemed like a corny dude that'll say some funny shit. Or he might think like that. Cause a couple things we. It's a lot of black people, fam, that feel like, I'm better than that. It's a lot of black people that look at her like a ghetto girl who Angel. That are critiquing her and dissing her too. You get what I'm saying? So I think. I'm telling you he's right. You're wrong, Joe. It's a lot of black women. So What I'm saying is I think that RG3 just came in on some goofy shit. You know what I'm saying? I think even if he was married to a black woman, his type of black woman still might be a black woman that we might look at like, eh. I just think he's the one of the black niggas that sit on the other side of the gate. I wanna reply to that couch saying that. I'm not arguing that black women are not dissing Angel Reese. Okay, Okay. I don't think that. I haven't heard or seen highlights cited a diss from a black person that's in the same realm as the Dave Portnoy comments. I didn't hear Dave or no, I'm not saying it's the same degrees. What I'm saying is that there are black people that sit on the other side of that gate and feel like, yo, dawg, look at these Donald Trump supporting heavy, heavy, heavy supporting black people that come out and say a whole bunch of dumb ass shit in support of Trump. You could be a black Republican and not say some of that shit that they be saying. So. So I think that at RG3, he just a, I guess like a goofy that be just saying for fam, we got friends that be like, yo, if it ain't snowing, I ain't going. That's a fact. We have them that come up here to be like, yo, if it ain't snowing, I ain't going. If it ain't white, it ain't right. They say that shit up here. Joe don't have. I don't have friends that say that. Yes, you do. Yes, you do. Yes, you do. No, there's one person that says that. All right, that's not friends. That paints a very different picture. There's one that say that shit. I'm just saying. What I'm saying is. I'm just saying. And we can get into how some of them Dominicans feel. True. I'm not disappointed. When Dominicans get into their bag, I try to let them. A lot of goofy blacks feel like that too. Especially once they've ascended to a certain level. They feel like everybody over there is over there. So I just think he a goofy nigga. Regardless if his chick was white or black or purple. I think he's just a corny goofy. Nah, I can't even give him that. Because I think part of his chick, part of him being that way is because his chick is white. That's why he went after her. That's why he went out to the one before her. He only wants that because he feels in some way that that's better. He a corny, goofy. Yeah, but it ain't. It ain't. No. If his girl was from. It's not. No. If his girl was black, he wouldn't even go to black because he looks at it as black beneath. Oh, good point. I see what you're saying. That's a good point. Yeah, That's a good point. I agree. That's a good point. Yeah. And it becomes problematic when those are the vo. Those are the black voices picked to chime in to represent black matter. Well, see, that's a whole nother conversation, because why they picking them voices? But we also have to step. I think nobody asked that to say anything. That's true. No. But even when they do, they know. They know. They go to certain folk who know they're gonna play it if they want. He can handle football stuff. I think a lot of people. They could leave football stuff. I'm not talking about this guy, but I think a lot of people dismiss others because of who they choose to be with or their partner. And I think that we have to stop that. Just because somebody. Huh? I don't like that. Yeah. Just because somebody has a white girlfriend, that doesn't mean you don't stand with black or black power or you're not aware of what's going on in our community. You come from that. We come from that. You know what I mean? And I think that a lot of times people use that to weigh the scale on who to take serious or who can speak on something. I think that's whack. You can't tell people how to judge people, though. But I just think it's whack, though. It may be whack. You can't tell people how to judge people, but I think, like, judge them people because I stand. My wife is. My wife is. Wait, hold on. Listen. Wait, hold on. Everywhere in America, they're judging you based off your significant other as well. That's not just. If you have those who judge you. My wife is. My wife is an Indian woman. Right. But I'm not that. You can't. I come from where I come from. I understand it. I. I just fell in love with who I fell in love with. If you judge me on that, you're an idiot. Because I'm outside, I'm in the trenches, and I get back to the communities and I understand the struggle. Not. And. And me. I do. Why I say m. For I was saying to something said you right before that today I was want to say you don't think you. But you don't think you can fall in love who you fall in love with. I think you can, but sometime that's an excuse. Like I'll give you an example. RG3 is probably saying I just happen to fall. I'm not criticizing you. No, but let's talk about. No, because I don't want to talk about RG3. We already described it. Let's talk about. I'm just saying in general terms. I think people say that and sometimes it's true and sometimes that becomes the excuse or it becomes a way of convincing yourself that you don't have certain, like deep seated, like commitment. Hold on. That's all I'm saying. Can I ask you a question? And I don't. Is your wife black and Spanish or. She's fully Spanish. She's a black Puerto Rican. A black Puerto Rican. Cool. When I watch you. Aren't you teaching your son to speak Spanish? Isn't that your thing? Yeah. That don't take away from your contributions or how you feel about black women or. But she is a black woman. Yeah, okay, I see what you're saying. Yeah, I got it. I got it. Okay. So that's not a good example. But what I'm saying is that there's some people out there. But let's say she were white. Yeah, but she's not. It wouldn't be for me. But let's say she were. I don't think it's unreasonable for somebody to say that. That shapes how they see me. Right. But my point is even bigger than that is I'm just saying what if every woman I date dated was white? Okay. And I say I just keep falling in love. I just keep falling. It's like if a woman. If a woman say, I just happen to keep meeting NFL players. Right? Yeah. We don't be letting that ride. Right. That's what I'm saying. Like at some point you got a type, but it's. Yeah, but your type shouldn't take away how you feel about your people. Yeah, I disagree with that. Really? I disagree with that. Let me ask you. You be a hip Bob. I'm a hypocrite. But that I don't like when you do that though. Because when you do that, everybody can't have. We can't have the discussion. Well, we can still have the. Because you should. Listen, I fall on the side of. You're being judged by your partner. That's my blanket. You can be judged, but it doesn't matter who your partner is. You shouldn't take away your contribution or what you do or what you believe in. It should. That shouldn't. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. I disagree. Okay, discuss it. No, it probably doesn't shape my contribution. Right. But if I'm fighting for racial justice and I have a white wife and I'm fighting for racial justice and she's out there with me every day. I have a white wife. That's why I made a point of saying, like a pattern. If my whole social circle is white, if all my partners are white, that's different. That's different. I got you. Right. That's what I'm saying. At some point, your choices matter. And they're not just random, they're informed by something. That's all I'm saying. I agree with you. Even if question to both of you, even if you're a white woman, wife, or whomever is out there with you in the struggle is out there. Like while you fighting for social justice is with you along the way. Does that still take away from your contribution? For me, we don't even have to keep saying wife. My experience in this is with the opposite of black women being in black spaces kicking black, extra blackity black shit. Yes. With white husbands that you couldn't mention on air that they couldn't be seen with. They couldn't pop up. It was like a covert thing. I've seen that multiple times. But why you think that is? Because we would take. First of all, it's hard to be a woman in the field. And on top of that, you would discredit her and her contributions because she has a white husband, so they have to hide it. You wouldn't. Not only they're not taking them serious initially, but you would even give her a more excuse than not to take her serious. You got a white husband, you can't talk that shit. But it should not take away from her contribution to what she feeling about the struggle or help me out. I think he's articulating yourself perfectly. I just disagree. It will and it does. I agree it will and it does. It shouldn't. But the truth is it does. Okay. I think it should. I think that's why it should. I think. I think. I think it should. Why? Why do I disagree? You or ice, I don't care. I disagree. Because who are we to set the standard on what is important to somebody else? Again, I think if we start talking about Pro black issues, right? Because that's what we talking about. So I'm gonna stay here. Somebody could have be black with a black wife and black children and don't do shit for outside black people. They don't do a fucking thing. They selfish. They don't do nothing for nobody else. And then you can have somebody, a man and his white wife that spend tons of time. We not even gonna get into much. We're gonna talk about time. Cause time is more important. It's niggas that got they feet on the ground helping people, helping other people progress in our neighborhoods that those same black people with a black wife and black kids don't do a fucking thing for. So when you look at that and you look at the actual acts and you look at the actual time being given, who is giving more to the black community in that particular instance? See, I don't think that's indirect, direct response to what I'm saying. It's not how? Because. Because. Oh, go ahead, you can go. So. Because I don't think no one is saying that the only people that should be judged is the black person who's dating the white man. So the black person who's married to a black person doesn't do. They should be judged too. Exactly. So, so. But no, hear me out. Hear me out. I'm not calling that person pro black. I'm not saying that they are act like they are. Yeah. And you not pro black just because you got a black family and the people that might be a mixed family that are doing mad and doing mad, giving mad contributions, you can't say that they're not. Right. So my argument isn't that. First, my argument isn't that everybody who's in an all black family is pro black. I know you didn't say that. I'm responding to what you said. Just hear me out fully. So I'm saying that in the same way that I make a judgment against that the person who's black who chooses a white partner, white partners, I'm also making a judgment, a worse judgment, to the black person who's with a black person that doesn't do shit, they get the worst judgment from me. You're not addressing what I'm talking about. Address the family. You'll see how it all connects to you. Let me finish. I promise. So that's the first thing. The second thing is the black person with the white person that is doing a lot. They also get a judgment from me, a positive judgment. I think that they're doing extraordinary Work. And I would call them pro black. I'm just saying that it's a demerit for me, you know, not that it doesn't. I'm not throwing away the black person with a white. With a white partner. And I'm not embracing the black person when a black person doesn't do shit. I'm saying, though, it is a factor Ice often talks about like the Madden scores. I'm just saying that that bar on that slider. Slider. That just goes down on the slider for me. So you don't believe that you can just meet somebody and fall in love with them no matter what race they are? Yeah, I think you can. Even if you were pro black. Pro black. You just meet a lady and you fall in love with her. You had black girlfriends your whole life or a black ex wife and you met somebody and you fell in love with them. You don't feel like that could happen. I believe that some of these people, they wouldn't allow themselves to fall in love with a white person. I believe that some of these people, no matter how great the white woman might be. Well, watch Guess who's coming home. Watch Guess who's coming home for dinner. Sidney Poitier. So I think that a lot of people. Well, again, no matter how dope the person would be, they would just not do it. You know what I'm saying? Like, they would. They would fight it. And so I think that, yeah, I think that that's. If that's in your bag and you're not open to it, you're just not open to it. Everybody, like some people have Ice. Ice has a preference of. I'm not just saying go ahead. I ain't saying no. I got a preference. Women. Yeah, right. So Ice could potentially, potentially meet a woman that is bigger. Ice wouldn't allow himself to go down that road. So he wouldn't even know that this woman is just an amazing, super duper duper dope ass person. Ice is not going to open himself up. That's fair. That's fair. Okay, so that's what I'm saying. Like it's not on Ice. That's just. I know Ice, so I know his preferences. I think that some people won't allow themselves. Well, that's crazy to say. I know we be immature. Why is it crazy? Joe, Go ahead. You can't do that. That's a. Wow. Oh, no. I don't know what the preference is. Yeah, I heard it too. I was trying to stay locked in. That's why I stay Locked in. I. I'm sorry, I ain't. What's wrong with you? He prefers petite. No, it just sound. That's cool. I just. I just think. I just think, like. I just think that, like, give you an example, like Jane Fonda. Okay, I'm listening. You know where I'm going, right? So Jane Fonda was a huge, huge, huge financial supporter of the Black Panther Party. Huge. A lot of people don't know that. Huge financial supporter of the Black Panther Party. So this, and this is in the 60s, 70s, where that shit was like blasphemy at that point in time. So do you now say Jane Fonda was. Wasn't pro black again? You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm just giving examples. He just said. He just said, knock the slider down a little bit. You're not gonna be a 99 overall. You might be a 99. I just feel like it's still pro black. Means the same thing for white people and black people. Exactly. I don't think that means the same thing at all. Whoopty doo. Jane Fonda fucking donated some shit to the Black Panther Party. What it means for her to be pro black and what it means for a black person to be pro black, I don't view the same at all. That's possible. Okay. Again, I think everybody makes the up for themselves. What I'm saying is, I think that, like, I don't. I'm judging people based on who the person is. Like, you know what I'm saying? That's it. Like, and I think that more of us should do that. I think that sometimes when we don't get judged based on who we are, we find it offensive. Right? Like, we find it offensive and become part of the problem. We get super because we. We want. We want. We want change. We want. We do want change. And we talk about change and then. Without changing. Yeah, without changing it. Oh, and I'm not saying dating outside your race, but I just said we want change. That sounded racist to me. What? We want change without changing. Something sounds off about that to me. It's not. No, it's not. I'm just telling you how it sounds to me. You become part of the problem if you. What's the word when you exclude people? Ostracize. What's the word I'm gonna use? Ostracize. But I don't wanna ostracize people. I just don't wanna. I think that part of black liberation has to come with building black community and black family. I agree. Okay, I agree with that. And I think that that's very difficult to do if we're not even looking at our. Looking for partners inside of our community. And it's not just women. I mean, I hear black gay men talk about this all the time. They said a lot of the other black gay men, particularly when I talk like academics, they say a lot of the black gay men who they would want to date are dating white men. Latino, you know, white Latinos, not black men. Like, they're looking outside too. So it's not just even a gender thing. It's that part of white supremacy is teaching us that we're not good enough. Good enough. Okay. And so our success is to go outside. And so I'm skeptic. And so that's my skepticism of people again. I know people who have bogeys, you know, they got. They got. I don't frame it like that, but where there's one person, you know, there's one exception to the rule. I get that. But I find that sometimes when you look. I mean, there are some prominent black intellectuals. Well, black people. The only people running around even to have the freedom to. To do this, that we talking about them. Other people is having different conversations in their households. And it ain't even their decisions up to the parent. So don't you bring no in here. Don't you bring no person that's not Chinese, Asian, white, Jewish. They just getting. They just strict with it. We out here trying to be. Oh, rainbow coalition. Yeah, get this. The out at the bottom of the lab. They don't let none of that happen. They'll have a meeting every month. They'll go pick. So who. Who the black people dating. Who do Asian people dating. Like, if you're saying that the black people. Other. Other ethnicities aren't allowing it. How are white people dating so many people outside their race? And Asian women, Asian women or black men are the two biggest demographics that are dating outside their race. And here's why. Because. And you make a great point, but part of it is that when Asian women date white men, they're perceived as marrying up. So this is. Don't bring. Oh, they're talking with the blacks too. Yeah, but not nearly the same rate the families. I don't. I don't know the percentages. I'm just telling you those two things are factual. And it's also which Asians, you know, like Cambodians are dating and Hmong are dating black men far more than like Koreans and Japanese Filipinos. Yeah, exactly. But the Idea basically, is we want to preserve our race or uplift our race. We're going to preserve our race by being with our people. We're going to uplift our race by getting white men. You know what I mean? And I think that's part of the equation. And that's why that one friend that y' all mentioned talks like that. I don't know what you mean. One friend. The one friend that y' all said, if it ain't white, whatever. That's why they talk like that. I think. I think. But I think that's more than just I think, no, that's a yes, I'm agreeing with you. Look, I'm thinking about it. I'm agreeing with that. What I'm saying is it's this misconception that if you date outside your race, you are viewing your race as less than. That's a misconception because I don't think white people are better than black people at all. And my girlfriend is white. And I don't think white people, I mean, if you look at it in its entirety, can hold a candle to black people. So I don't feel that way. It's nothing insecure about me. I'm 49 years old. I've dated black women my whole entire life. I don't look at white women like they're better than black women. That's a misconception. And I also think that's a dismissive view of how we take something and just drop it in the water. Oh, he must have got self hate or some other dumb bullshit that people say. Mommy issues. But when you talk like RG3, he's a dodo. That's something. Okay, he's saying dodo. And he's been saying dodo like, this is who he is. This is who he's proven to be. You get what I'm saying? Like, so you never heard me say, no, if it ain't snowing, I ain't going none of that. Doofy, Antoine and fire, we ever heard these like that? No, I'm just saying that to me. So. So let me. Let me ask you another. Look, I want to just pivot off this and just ask one more question, which is, should this be out of bounds for your colleague at work? Because remember, RG3 works with Ryan. Cause RG3 basically makes a statement saying, this is out of bounds. You're not a good teammate, they're saying, you know, now it's a professional. I think. I think if RG3 kept it in a basketball context, of basketball. Yeah. I think that he's well within his right to do so. No, I'm talking about. I know. Listen. So if he did that and then. And then Ryan Clark attacked his personal choices, I think that's unprofessional. Should ESPN do something about it? So a lot. I don't think they should. I don't think so either. But there's a conversation online about that. They should intervene. They should suspend them. They should punish them. They should. ESPN is running out of black people. No. Why? I think they should suspend. No, I think they should suspend them. You say? Yes, I think they should not suspend. I think they should discipline them. Because when you flip it, let's say he don't get any repercussions. Repercussions. And then when a white person does the same, we'll be calling for their head. You get what I'm saying? So I think that you should keep it. Oh, you mean like if somebody said, like. Oh, of course he understands John Moran. He goes home to a black woman or some. Or she goes right, yo. It's easy for Malika Andrews to understand what they're going through. She grew up in Newark. You know what I'm saying? And then you. We like what. So we'll be tight. If some of that were to. To surface. You get what I'm saying? Rightfully so. So I'm just saying if I'm RG3 and he expresses any. Any discontent with what Ryan said, then I think they gotta step in. But RG3 might not give a but. I mean, he wrote a whole presentation after he did. He's very upset. And he pinned it right above the video of him selling booty enhancements from his wife, saying that this helps end discrimination by showing that white women have booties too. I think in man code, you can't. Theoretically, I think you're correct. You shouldn't talk about anybody's wife. Ryan's first sentence in his reply tweet says, your dog. You know what it is with me and you? That's what the very first sentence says. Anything after that, I understand, but not in a professional form. I still understand. I understand, too. I still understand. I understand too, but not did it. He said it as professionally as you could say it. Yo. All he did was state facts. He didn't get into how he felt about it. He said, you've been married twice to white woman. White women. This is how you speak about your white wife? I've met her. I think she's more than that. I think that's respectful if you talking about somebody's wife, right? No, he didn't diss his wife. He's like, you're objectifying your wife, not me. Yeah, I don't think he dissed his wife. You're fetishizing her whiteness. Yeah. That's what you're doing. Yeah. You running around talking about how good the milk is and all that other shit is goofy time. Cause I don't think RG3 ever bagged the baddest milk in the club. I mean, that's subjective. I'm saying in his life. I'm not talking about his wife right this second. His wife right this second. Second is an attractive woman. He might have. I'm saying, the way he speaks about her. National athlete, bro. Yeah, but niggas be grating on the curve with coming a lot of times. I'm just talking about him and his. That nigga went to and was him in college, so he had to pick up a litter in some of these high colleges that got 30,000, 40,000. Don't make me go back to the RG3 draft and see who was sitting next to him. No, because I'll go. Look, I'm talking about who he might have had. Man, them white girls go crazy over black athletes in college. Yeah, but if you. I feel you. You know what I'm saying? I don't know him. I don't know his. Why. I don't know nothing about him. I'm just saying. Yeah. Anyway, it'll be interesting to see what happens with it. I. I don't think a suspension is coming, especially since so much of it happened off air. Oh, it happened off air. Yeah, because, like, some of it's on, like, their platforms, their. Their streams, you know, Twitter. I thought they did that on the show. Show. No, Ryan did it on. Ryan. Ryan did it on the pivot. On the pivot also. Ryan did it, so it's fine. I know we've been on sports related topics for a while. I did want to let you guys know that I went to my stepson's football game in Boston. Like some. Some football camp. He asked me to go, so I went, no, that's good, Jerry. Dope. Mom's been asking me to go for mad. Oh, he really wants you to see him. Shut up. It's different when. It's different when the kid hits you itself and says, yo, I need you to come to my. Gotta show up. I need you to come to my ABC camp or whatever the fuck the camp. Well, Under Armour, I Don't fucking know. But it was right there in Massachusetts. So it. Let's go. Hopped in the car, didn't fly. Cause Newark Airport still has me scanning. Scared. I'm not playing with them. Teboro clear. Go ahead. I took Newark Airport. Oh, okay. Yeah, I mean. I mean, not new airport. I took a car. I mean, Joe Button seats. I took the Joe Button. Literally, I took the Joe Button seats down here. All right, well, Good left at 6am on, on. On Sunday. Quick drive down there. That shit was an unbelievable experience. I guess that's what I'm trying to say to y' all. Learned a lot, saw a lot. Well, my mind is fucking blown. My mind is kind of blown away. What regard. Yeah, what you. So you go there. It's the Under Armour camp, so huge field. Kid from East Orange was in there too. This kid from East Orange, my man's nephew, was in there too. It was 500 kids. It was a lot of kids. And they all were standing outside the field and there's coaches saying, our quarterbacks. Quarterbacks, Quarterbacks. By every position. So you seeing all of these young kids. I mean, some as young as seventh grade, but they got they gear on, they focus, game face, shit. Even my motherfucking steps on once we got there. I'm looking at him like, yeah, like proud and shit. Healing. Yeah. I'm serious. Like, whoa. It's a whole nother look. So anyway, we go in there, I'm seeing all of these parents. Like, it almost looked like these bleachers could be filled if we all sat here at the same time. Just to watch a camp. Not a game, not a scrimmage. So I'm just looking at the coaches that came out there, scouts that came out there. I'm looking at how the kids were being coached. Them coaches is straight to the point. Oh, you hard headed. You have a hard time listening. Anywhere else you can cut immediately. Oh, you not making it. You're not going to the league if you don't clean this. They getting right to it. We ain't got time to mince feelings here. So the coaching, I was blown away at. Once I started talking to some of the sports dads and some of the scouts out there. Shit. Cause you know there's some podcast fans out there now. I was blown away by that too. Look at all these young kids. None of these niggas was alive when Pumping up came in. They don't know you as they don't know you. They don't know shit about pumping up. But the dad's out there. So you get to kicking it. Talking to these NIL agents is out there. They start talking about just how much money is involved in youth athletics and just scouting and just hearing some of the numbers thrown around. And now I'm out here for a couple hours. Shit. I'm looking at these kids like I'm a damn scout. I'm like, oh, shit, him right there. He gonna go somewhere. His mechanics off. I could have put some money in one of them receiver's pockets and try to. It was just an amazing experience. Shout out to all of y' all high school kids that's focused on where you going and big business and intent letters and colleges, and then they meeting with the parents, and here goes fucking stupid thicko. I want to talk to all these coaches and some Lululemons. You bitch, you don't move. That shit is big business, bro. Like, AAU and all that. Like, my man, I was telling Corey off mic. Like, my man, two of his daughters play aau, and he was like, dawg, I don't see how the parents are traveling. Like, it's. They got a different spot every weekend. AAU is full time, bro, and that shit is costly. Like, my man is up, up. But he was like, dawg, I don't see how these people are going from Kentucky. Next week you in pa. Next week you in Tennessee. Like, y. Traveling and all of that shit with these kids. That shit is costly if your kid is not a star. Cause you know, if you star, we gonna make kids. Everybody should care, take care of you. But if your kid is not a star and you covering all that, it's hard for them to get in the aau, which means it's hard for them to be seen and go to the next level. High school's not enough anymore. When we were coming up, high school was all you needed. My niece is a very good volleyball player, and she's in Texas, she's in Boston. She's in all these places just to be in the circuit, to have a shot at a. Like I said, I saw it with Taya, and then I saw it with Sharif. Like, they father been moving around for six, seven, eight, like, every weekend, bro. Two and three times. You traveling throughout the week just so that your kids could play basketball? Oh, the basketball's all year, too. My girl is different, bro. Three months, bro. That is different. In three months, every weekend somewhere different. So Mark said, yo, dog, in the summer, they playing eybl. They doing all this, and then the winner is the actual seasons. So it's Just nonstop like that. Shit is a money grab on another level. Just a lot of politics. They were telling me a story. Let me make up some schools. They were telling me this old lineman was at Rutgers getting. Let's call it 40 grand. UNC called, say, hey, we like them, we need them over here. We can get them a buck. Excuse me, Call it a buck sixty. Jesus. He go over there. Mind you, they've been watching him and they showed him. They've been watching him. They kind of know his bill of health and all that. So he get over there, he does the health test. They see something that they were aware of, already had a change of heart on it and say, you know what? Nevermind, we cool on you. Wait, what? You just modified your entire life. So now you blew your starting spot over here and you're guaranteed money over here chasing us a. A dream. And they just dead you like that. So yeah, some of the stories and some of the. That's some of the politics that go along with. It's getting worse. This shit's getting crazy. Like it's gonna get worse again. Like, you know, my peoples is shout to Ace Bailey is represented by home team future Sixer. But. But no, that is different. Like I watch that, bro. That is a. That shit is a job, a 24 hour job that these eight agencies and all of that go through. It's different, bro. This is big, big business with these high school kids. Like, we know who's. We knew Stefan with Stephon when he was in play. Small fry. Like I played small fry. Stefan played. And I'm older than him. I'm two grades older than him. He played with the grade above me like he was getting 50 in their age group. He was always better, you know what I'm saying? Like they, they. So you knew already who Steph was going to. You knew who some of these kids was going to be. They just didn't have nil back then. So then 500 kids, after it's all said and done, the coaches get up in front of the Under Armour, step and repeat and say. All right, check this out. Picking two of y' all from each position. If I don't call your name, better luck next time. They picked two people from each position. Now I gotta watch. I gotta watch five 494K kids. 92 kids. Be tight. Some of them I thought was all right. They. They didn't get picked or they might have been all right. Yeah, and the politics start kicking. Oh yeah, that part. The politics started kicking. My man got picked congrats. Number number 50, bring him up. See him doing all that Richardson, they see him doing all that quick foot. But he looked different, too. See, that's the thing, too. Now, the camp. The camp we went to was in Boston. He been balling in Texas. And it's different. It's very different. Texas and Florida, Alabama, very different. I'm taking my Texas talent over here with this little recreational camp. This is cool, but I'm balling like the football country down there, dog. He got on 700 rubber bands of every camp he been to. All of the placards hanging off his book bag of every camp he been to. Like, he looked like. He don't look like these little Boston bums. I'm showing y' all I do this right, you know. And that's the first thing the coach said when they called him up here, too. And then I'll say that in closing, because Coach, like, it's important to make yourself identifiable out here and staying out. This young kid just did just that. They bring the aim up. Number 50 out of here. It's like, God damn. Cheering, I'm hit the chase. Talking about cheering, we way past invest. All that tricking money is about to go somewhere different now. I finally found a way we can get this thing back. Hey. All the spinning I've been doing for six years. A light at the tunnel. Goddamn it. You. Me got potential. This kid's got. This kid's going somewhere now ain't bad. That's naive, man. That's dope. I'm happy. It probably meant a lot to him. The next one is in Ramsey. Oh, oh. Which is in Jersey if you get picked. So I guess yes. Good man. Different. That's what's up. That is big business. Big, big business. Ain't no more leaving it to chance. These got trainers in high school. Oh, yeah. Personal trainers in high school. All of that shit. Do y' all want to get to the tragic boat? Boat crash? Sure. It was a tragic boat crash. Brooklyn Bridge. The bridge didn't even. That was a Caribbean. The Caribbean boat. Mexican Navy. Why are you smiling while we delivering? Because you know he. I'm not. You want to be flipped? No. Get off camera. If you have a smile while I'm listening to what you. There's nothing I said that will cause. No, it's not fun. 19 people injured. There was two people died. Oh, for real? Yes. Yes. Queens flip two people. That's why it's tragic. Got it. And some niggas was hanging off the thingamajiggy we saw one person dive in the water. Yeah, you move. Cause you don't know how to be. You're not. You know, you're not mature enough. Cause you're not. I don't think not. No, you're not mature. Get. Get the fuck out of here. All right. You need to go, too. Get the out. I'm good. I'm good, son. Y' all, it's to evil people. I don't understand. Yo, go ahead. I did. And Y. Sn said I did. I. I went, no, it's tragic. That looked fake when I was watching it. We were at a show in Brooklyn. They said a boat just hit the bridge. Like, yeah, right. That's some. Yo, kick Cory out, bro. Yeah, that's who you got to kick out. Cory don't have a mic. I'm not looking at him, listening to him. When I first saw the axes incident, I didn't understand just how. I just didn't understand. Because those look like just lights. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't get what the hoopla was. And then more footage started coming out, and you're like, wait, there was people standing up there? Yeah. Yes. So that's part of the. It's like a ritual or whatever. It was a Mexican naval ship, and when they leave, the final docking, they. They do that. It's like a display. They stand up, they stretch the arms out. They stand across all the way around the thing. From what I understood, the boat lost power. Yes. And it was. It was actually drifting backwards. Yes. When it hit. So it's not like they stood there and saw this coming and ran into it. It was drifting backwards when it hit the bridge. That is unbelievable. Yeah, I had a. I. I immediately, I'm like, wait, a Mexican naval ship in Brooklyn? So I had to look. But then I understood that this was something that they knew this was some part of some display, and it was cool. I'm waiting to hear what your man Big T say. It was cool after that. At first, I thought this was some BS Words. He gonna say some dumb shit. Are you waiting for it? He gonna say it. I already know it's coming. Told you he gonna say some stupid shit, but we shouldn't beat him to it. No, I'm saying he's an idiot. No, I. No, the first thing I was away. But. But they said that basically, somehow it lost power. But they said that's similar to what happened with the other boat down in Maryland. Like, this lost power. So, you know, my conspiracy theory brain started running wild, but, you know, prayers to those people. But that is crazy. And it's mad scary. Some Final Destination type. That's why I don't get on both dead ass, you know what I'm saying? Like that was scary. That was petrifying. Seeing some people fall in the actual water, you know? Yeah, I was scared for the bridge too at first. But then. That's a good point. Yo, the Maryland shit, the bridge fell, right? You know what I'm saying? So that's a whole different ballgame. Imagine what New York would have been like if that bridge would have fallen or something. The Brooklyn Ridge. Yo, dawg, we talking about gridlock, like the. Cause I think the tractor trailers go over to Brooklyn. They go over old. I don't think they could go over the Manhattan Bridge. Oh, maybe that's true. I think the trucks or some shit can't go over the Manhattan Bridge. So it would have fucked up all of New York traffic. Like eastern seaboard traffic, courier, packaged goods, all of that shit. Moving across that shit would have been catastrophic. Way more than it already was. Prayers go out. Indeed, prayers go out. Thousands of everybody that was affected by that boat crash. The people that lost their lives, the people that had to hang off of the thingamajiggy. That was super disturbing to see. Hopefully we don't have a summer of sin. Super disturbing shit like this. I feel like we just keep seeing shit we shouldn't be saying. I've been saying that for a few. Pause now. But yeah, real disturbing. Well, since we're sending prayers out. Joe Biden. Former President Joe Biden has been diagnosed, they announced, with cancer. Prostate cancer. Stage 4 aggressive, they said very aggressive. Stage 4 cancer. Cancer of prostate. Which I gotta say I have some thoughts about. But in terms of the timing of it, but in general, again, I just. I don't wish that on anybody. I don't wish that on anybody. I'm not a Joe Biden fan, but when it get comes to the medical part and the health part and the life part, he loved people, people love him. I hope he's okay. But that. It was just shocking to me that you could be the President of the United States and get to stage four without. As a President of the United States. Yeah, as the President of the United States. I guess that makes sense. Do they do the health check thing every year? Yeah, he ran for office in January. He ran for office last year. Like, so I was gonna say it's a weird time to look for a conspiracy, but I guess that makes sense. And I don't even know if it's because. I mean, I think it's just. I just wonder if he just didn't want to tell us right away, you know, that's possible. I didn't believe and don't believe that they just found out about that. Not at all. The pressing slow. That's the other thing. Prostate cancer is not one of them cancers that, like. It's not like thyroid, where you can. You can look up and you got. You get to stage four right away. Pancreatic or something. Yeah, you can. You can get pancreas, probably a better example. Yeah. All the cancers. Well, my dad had prostate cancer. My aunt just passed away from pancreas. Either one of y' all had to take it down? What? No, I'm just saying. No, no. I don't know. He didn't die from it. You feel bad for the. You feel bad for the. When talk about their family. You don't feel bad, right, Joe Monster, you just asked me to walk off the set but talk about their family. You don't feel bad. Bad. I do feel bad. What? You crazy? Don't make no joke. That's why I don't. That. But that don't make a joke. That is the joke. But just so you know, that is the joke that I feel so bad that when people do it, it's like a buzz kill. It's like, oh, I feel bad. That is the joke. All. I'm making sure I'm checking your temperature. Yeah, probably. You don't need to check my temperature, homeboy. Well, what you trying to turn me up. I ain't turn a peaceful. Cool. He said, you can't check my temperature. Picture. You trying to turn me out. Turn me up. No, you know, I'm trying to. I heard out. I'm with you. I'm with you. Yeah, Yeah. I was in the gym the other day. I got that 225 for me, man. I saw you put the picture of the weights on the. On the Instagram. I thought we didn't see you pushing up video. We didn't see. I only saw this. You can show us. You don't think I'm lying? You can show us. Wait, hold up. Not true. Wait, hold up. You can show us. Before Patreon. Just show us. Just show us. That's it. That's cool. No way. You think I'm telling a fib? I do. Well, that settles that. Now you gotta do it. You can show us. I believe you, Joe. Y' all think y' all got friends that lie about, like, yes, shit like that. I got family members that do it. Exactly. Well, family is gonna do it. But y' all think y' all friends. You pick your friends. Y' all think y' all have friends that lie about. About shit like that? Oh, man. See, I. Yes, I had. I do. I do, but. And y' all think I'm one of those people? I don't. I think you did it. I don't think you did that. Cause I think, you know, somebody would test you on it. And I don't think Corey, like, now he did it right? Wait to lie and then take a pic. Well, you think it's a point. It ain't like somebody did it four times and then you did it. I think niggas sleep all night. Corey said he did it four times. Yeah, four, one. Six. Oh, I'm about to say yeah, but no. Four times. He here. You did four reps. Something I should. You did four reps to 225. Yes. Why you shouldn't have did it. I just didn't feel like I should have done all that, cuz I'm not in there keeping count. I got a trainer, so I just do whatever he said. But not just that. You've been working out for a couple weeks now, so you're getting stronger. Hold on. That's a quick. Hold up, hold up, cuz. We. We addressing. Would you just be lying? Read this. I got that up about 10 times, so I'm hype. Four sets. Two reps per set. That's 16. 16. Wait, let me ask a very basic question. How many times did £225 go up from Joe? How many times overall, did he lift 225 pounds? 12. Okay. Oh, okay, then. All right. That's impressive from where you were last time. You said lift weights. Let's go see. Nigga, I want to see. I kind of want to see. I'm proud of you, though. The more you go to the gym, yo, you're not a weak dude. Already lift last time with us. Bench press with us. Oh, oh, okay. You said you want it in last time. That's all. Okay. You back to your skinny self, too, yo. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody. It was kind of brolic last year. Yeah. Clothes is coming. No, I'm not. Dis. Nobody compliment n you summertime ready last year. You looking healthy, bro. You looking good. Yeah, you look great, man. Yeah, you ready for the summer. What else? What else? What else? What else is there? What else is there? What else is going on out there? Any exciting summer news? Hey, Memorial Day. Memorial Day weekend. That is crazy. Memorial Day weekend. We're serious. This weekend. I didn't know that. It's the least eventful Memorial Day ever. Who doing something? I need a barbecue to go to. I'm pulling up somewhere. Yeah. I thought you and your wife was gonna do something. I was gonna try to come to y' all. Shit. Don't do something. Yo, I will. See, I do that. None of y' all show up, invite me. I'll be great. If I get invited, I'll come on. Why don't you invite some? I hate y' all. Cause you like, invite. But I want to see what the house look like. I keep seeing. I keep seeing the little night school room. Yo, listen to. Why walk away, right? I have a very crib, the driveway, the moldings. I gotta go. I didn't want to come look around. I come judge you. No, I have a very small. I have a very small, modest house. You would not be impressed with my house. I'm impressed. I know how much house cost, and it's impressive. I know where your house at. That's enough. I know how much it costs and where it's at. You can say that shit to them or it's not a big house. I promise you. Mark, I said I know how much it costs, and you say it's not a big house. Yeah. Sometimes you pay for the neighborhood, not for the house. That is true. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. I paid for the neighborhood. I prioritized location, over location, location, location. Yeah. I didn't want a huge house. All right, so what time you. What day you doing something? We might do something. You know, I mean, you know, I gotta get permission. I ain't gonna lie. This so full of. Yo, I don't have any plans. These gonna show up. No, you full of. You full of. How many square feet is your house? I don't know. You do know. You think you're supposed to clear line. I'll show you the house. I. I don't. I don't know. The reason I don't know is because it was. It was renovated. You've said this on air. And I realized that when I did that before, I had miscalculated a bit. How much you said before? What'd you say? How much I remember. This is a whole episode, man. You just said you remember when you did it. I remember that when I did it, I miscalculated because afterward I did some other things. What was your calculation back then? I don't recall. I do. Oliver North. It's okay. I got. Got you. What else you got? Moving right along. Oh, man. So nobody has any Memorial Day weekend plans? I'll be upstate. Nope. Nah. You going upstate? Yeah. How about you, Flip? Y' all should do something. Are you going? Don't you got one of them carnivals or something? What carnivals? Who y' all? Y' all. What you people? What you people do? You people. Hey, yo, listen. Yeah, I mean. I mean, man, I may go away for a little bit. You know what I'm saying? I'll figure it out, man. But it doesn't matter. You should. Oh, you know what I'm being. Brooklyn has something every year at the band festivals in Brooklyn. They have a street. They have a street festival. Festival. Yeah. Yeah. Right, right. Right across from my old crib in Brooklyn. Yeah, that's the move. Yeah. I get up with you, man. I see what I'm doing. You man. Yeah. Got right out of that shit. I saw what you did. No, I'm just saying. Watch your mama Caribbean, too, Nigga, there's no carnival. I love you people. Yo, stop. This is the trouble. I know you on your Adol. Your fba. Don't start that, cuz. If I say something, they attack me. I can't. I can't hold it down, Doo, please. Did you say Adolf Adol with an S Ados. The Alof. No. No, you don't. American descendants of slaves. Okay? You never find these people in the ao. They gonna get. Oh, yo, y. Is stop. Look this way. Get y' all. They go get y' all. All right, well, that was our Memorial Day weekend breakdown. There you go. I mean, there you go. Mad informative. Racist at the same time. Oh, man. Yo, Joe, why don't you do something? You used to have great parties. That's why. I don't anymore. He old now. Oh. Oh. That's why I don't. He got the 1v1 spot. They were legendary. I used to. I used to want to invite. I did it for too long like I was the kickback house for ever. So it's over now. Now. Now I like my piece. You sure? Yes. I think. I don't think you. I think you can't do it the same like you used to. That's what it is. So now you just mask it with. I'm older. You just can't do it the same way. You got to be allowed to. Maybe, maybe not. Yeah, acknowledge that, cuz. You ain't got to do nothing. You don't clean. You don't cook. You. You you people. I mean, you get all the managed, so it's really do. You wouldn't be around that many people in your house. I clean and cook. Say you don't have to. So you could do the kickback without having you cook labor. I've had. Not trying to be funny. I've had. I know you clean. You. You clean that. Kickbacks. Weird. I said it. I. I had the man, the grill until somebody else showed up. It wasn't the greatest. I didn't know that part. That is annoying. I've been the guy that. Forget it. I ain't getting in there. If you're throwing the kickback, it's a lot of work. It's a lot of work. It's a lot of work. I got it in my 40s going out, getting all the liquor. Even if you get a lot of. To do. Even if you get a kid catered, you still got to manage all that. A lot of that's true. Like, the setup is a pain. You can have a little more fun, but the planning is. No, you don't. You don't really get that much fun. Day off. Invite the people you invited. The people you didn't invite. They. Plus the people that came. Came to your block and pissed all over the neighbor's lawn. Yeah. Dealing with the police because there's a microscope on your house because you had all the parties. Not enough people showing up. Too many people showing up. You know what I mean? People not leaving. When you say leave, that's the worst. Both of them want to stay. People coming with slides, trying to wait each other out. Right. People coming with slides that's ready to rock. So now they hound you. Yo, I need a room. She's ready to rock. Can I go in your room? No. Like, guess I've had enough of guests, invites, all that kickback. Nah. So it's done for good or you just need a break? Well, it's not done for good if. Yo, what are y' all doing? Talking about. Those were the days. It's not done for good if you count, like, my birthday party. Got you. But that's still not going to be at the crib. It won't be in my house no more. Crib I'm standing. There'll never be anything at my house again. Shouldn't have nobody at my home. Not too much nice in your crib. Now. Now today. Yeah, I feel that. Sorry. My barber was in my house the other day, looked at the little beautiful little steel sculpture I got over there. He's like, yo, Man, I'm redecorating my. My shop. I'm thinking about getting some shit. He cutting too. He's like, I think I get some shit. That shit you got right there and over there, like, fly. If you don't mind, I got how much it costs, like, so. So I tried to save. Save them early. You said in your most modest. No, first you try to get out of. This is art. You don't want to know, and it's not important. Try to get away from it first. Try to come off pompous. Of course. And he said, no, that's the pompous. That's the pompous. You don't want to know. It's not important. Right, Exactly. That's different. No, you have to differentiate between decor and art collection. I would have told that the price. That's how you do it. No, no. He said no, for real, man. Like, all right, was it five bands? And you start laughing. No, no, I did what Cory's doing. Look, I almost got a head. You almost my hair up. You. Luckily you got bald. Said, yo, man, don't even worry about it, man. Just go play with something safe. It's a non pompous answer. Yeah. Oh, man, I don't know how that came up, but that's your non pompous compass. Got you. How you answer that? What? Without being like I said, you got to differentiate. No, because everybody said that to me. Yeah. I'll be like, that was too much. I'll say something like that. Like, yo, that's too much, yo. No, I'm saying for me, like some stupid. I did. You know what I mean? Like, my girl made me do it some dumb cool. But that's. They keep pressing up. Yeah. That's not gonna turn a. Away from wanting to know the price. I mean, like, see one and no round a buck, around 80, you gotta say, like around seven, 70, you get a little one for about 55. Wanting to know the price of things can be really, really fun or not so much humbling. Yeah. Feel like a peon. A whole chess kid. I go in the Louis store the other day looking for slides. I ain't looking for. I caught. Caught the slides in every color, too. But I ain't looking for. She looking for something, you know, Mother's Day gift. Yeah. I don't know how we got there, but. Okay. Okay, I guess. Yo, did we have. Hey, what did y' all get y' all girls for Mother's Day? Keep going. This is just me. Mine got returned. So your gift got Returned. Yeah, I don't care. Oh, she returned it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now let me ask you, when she did the return, where did the money go? Oh, you. Well, prior to the gifts you wanted. Yeah, for the gift you get something different. Plus. Plus a penalty for choosing wrong. Got a penalty. You gotta pay a tax. Gotta get a penalty. I got her a card, a love bracelet, but she just wasn't her thing. And cuz it was supposed to be like for me and my son. Yeah, not so much. So that little red box back there. Yeah, not so much. So anyway, so we go in Louie and the guy says, first of all, you got to know somebody. Even going there now. You can't just go in there and look around no more. It's over. Scammers done one. But anyway, the guy says, hey, man, you want to go to the fifth floor? Of course she wants to go to. What's on the fifth floor? Don't even matter. He said, some furniture, huh? And I said, oh, Lord, I don't need no furniture. But then I thought about it again and I said, you know what? I definitely want to go to the fifth floor to see some Louis Vuitton furniture. He said, it's brand new. We just opened the fifth floor. We just started. We just started selling furniture. Now that's all prep talk, by the way. Way. That's all to let you know this is going to crack you. Right. But go ahead. So I go in there. Apparently Pharrell done did some shit. Pharrell done designed some. And I skipped the couches. He like, oh, it's the couches. It's Ben tables. We do need new couches. It's a super Fly. Not from there we don't. It's a superfly record player in like, the next room. Okay. When I tell you that is standing, it's beige, same color as all my. In my crib. It got some futuristic, funky design. I might have to find a picture for you. It was beautiful. And I was about to just walk away, but I couldn't. I had to see how much it cost. You had to. So I looked at the thingamajiggy, and you guessed it, $150,000. Sheesh. For the Pharrell Louis record player player. I said, yo, dog, do y' all have a record store? Where are you getting vinyl? No, it's way better than that. It's looking futuristic. Oh, the trunk. The trunk. You talking about the trunk that play the records? Oh, no, it wasn't a trunk. It looked like some space capsule. It looked nuts. Right here. Look up the Pharrell, Louie. It said Pharrell. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, it's fine. Fine. Yeah, go ahead. I'll tell my girl to find it. But anyway, that's what I mean about. Do that price checking. She know I ain't getting no $150,000. Please. I'm in the button seats. That's true. I'm in the buttons. I ain't playing like that. You crazy. Anyway, shout out to y' all out there that's buying Louis Vuitton furniture. Sure. I don't know. Not I. Not I said the captain. What else is there? What else is there that's important, Unimportant. I see Salt and Pepper written up there. Yeah. They're suing Universal umg, basically because their music was supposed to come back to them after 30. 30 years. About 30, 35 years. And then music didn't come back. And then they're saying UMG took everything off of streaming, which is basically now devaluing it while holding up to give it back to them. So they're selling, try to get their back. Good for them. First of all, did they resolve their issue? Is it Salt, Pepper and Spin, or is it Salt Pepper? Yeah, they was beefing with Spinderella for a while. I don't know. So I'm just wondering. This is interesting. At first they had the internal thing and now external thing. I'm glad they're fighting Universal. I want every artist to fight Universal and all these other big majors because they. Everybody has the same complaints. The audits show different things. Forensic accounting shows something different. They don't, you know, do what they say they're going to do after 30 years or 25 years. Good for them. I hope they get every dollar they deserve. Man, I love Salt and Pepper and Spin. Shout out to all of them. Yeah, word. Shout to Salt and Pepper. It's Spin and Tretch. Bumped in the trash the other night. Spin was. He's doing all right. Spin was. Spin was up. Spin, you mumbled when we was little. Spin was the one. She's beautiful. Oh, that's what you're saying? Yeah, I know. Spin's beautiful. Spin, the rebel child. I don't have anything else that I need to get to. Joey dropped again, right? Yes. Yes, he did. Got busy from Ice's account. I'm. I don't really need nobody to respond to it. Uses your mind over there listening to yo this. He. He took the. He took a West coast, like, flip rhyme, like them addressed all of the shit that they Just said in these records that just came out a day ago. Like, it's kind of like put the to bed at this point. And I know I just said earlier in the show that for the to keep going, but now I'm cool. I don't know what y' all can do to top that record record, because now I jumped over here on y' all and absolutely smoked it. And again, back to what y' all were saying. You can hear the money difference. You can hear it in the. The clarity of the production. You can just hear I spent something to get this even made real quick, and y' all really can't with me. But the wreck. The record is hard, though. I'll listen to it soon. Yeah, I gotta check it out. It's called Crash Dummies because Ray Vaughn keeps referring to himself as a crash house dummy. So. Yeah, no, you're a crash dummy. That is pretty funny. All right. I ain't got nothing else going on, man. I ain't got nothing else popping. Let me see, let me see, let me see. Actually, that's not true. I'm seeing a lot of rumors floating around about Justin Bieber being broke. I don't think that's the case. How would you know? That's hard. He's had a lot of successful records, bro. That's why this is the rumor popping up is a thing. They're saying that he owes Scooter Brawn in orbit and amounts of money that he owes somebody else. I could find it, but it's like 30, 40, 50, and 60 million. Jesus. They keep showing pictures of them not looking the greatest. I don't know because I'm not in his business, but it wouldn't be the first time that we've heard somebody go broke that we didn't think should be going broke that fast. I don't think it's fast. Very fast. Is he like 30? 30? How is he 30? How's that fast, bro? The just had a monster album seven, eight years ago. That purpose album was eight, nine years ago. That was a great album, by the way. The album was amazing. And he had an album after that. He's 31. The purpose one was my. But he had an album after that. I think Justin Bieber has been out long enough to be going broke. If he were going broke, he'd been out long enough. But it's certainly possible. I can't swear by his pockets. Yeah, yeah, I would be. I would be shocked as well. I don't know about probable, but it's possible. It's definitely possible. He could have. Yeah, he could have gambling problems. Like we don't know his personals, you know what I'm saying? But. Or just big spirit. Just doing a quick. A quick search. Again, not doing any deep research. His estimated net worth was at 300 million, so. And again, that's obviously if he. You got gambling issues or you owe a lot of debt or that's not real money all the time, but that's just you. Such a big gap. The rumor is that he sold some of his publisher catalog. Catalog. Yeah, that he sold some of his catalog because he was down really, really, really, really bad. And again, I know that that's subjective, but broke just mean more going out this than it's coming in, right? Oh, that's possible. He hasn't put out a record in a while, but he might not be super liquid. I mean that happens. Yeah, it's a lot of crack, bro. Lose 300, you got a have a different type of smoking problem. What the we talking about? What? How much is crack right now? How much? I don't know how much is crack today? Let me go check the stock. The price is up and down like Wall Street. It's been a bit. It's been a while. All right. I would be shocked if I. I don't think he's. If he was broke. Personally, I just. I refuse to believe it. Said Michael Jackson was a bro. I don't refuse to believe it. I do. I just. I just decided I don't want it to be true. Yeah. All right. So now I'm done. I'm officially done. I am going with for my sleeper. Let's go to kw and known record is called Eyes wide open. Girl, I've been watching you for a while soon as I heard about your name knew I was involved oh how quickly things can turn from pleasure to pain like that rotten fruit in your fridge we went out days focus guys. I've been holding on to eyes Cuz I got to stay with you instead to the boys I'm sick but I never man it Even though I know I should be independent oh girl I can't stay away from you Took a minute to get over us two feet I'm so undecided okay. All right. That was no. Yeah, that was brand new music. That was kwn. Eyes wide open. Eyes wide shut. All right, man, I'm going. What's the password? Freeze. I don't know what y' all are referring to. I'm playing myself. It's flip fl. No, it's you fio. What is it? Fidelio. Fidelio. Oh, and you peeped it first they put on you fail. Comments is crazy. No, let me go through the comments. What we playing today? I'm trying a better way. They won't stop. You can ignore them. Hey, I want to see no feet. Play some key Glock, right? I'm playing key Glock made away y stupid. Y' all see that? That they said boss man D. Oh the other snaked out. It don't even matter cause I still make my way way Y catch me on the private jet long way from that greyhound. You can't be like Gliz when you grow up if you stay down. I built a sprite with eight that's how I take my pain down. I used to want to add it that cost my chain now trying to split a wig chopper sing like James Brown they say money talk what these going to say now? All my not it all my bad I keep a rocket you run up I blast my two threes on the gas. My two, two, three on the seats. These ain't talking about money, these rather talk about me. And before I pay for some Snoop dog gonna throw up the beat. Yeah, before I pay for some why she gonna throw up the seat? Gotta get mad, we gotta eat. Then we repeat these ain't no I'm ready to tweak out as I speak. Ain't no I'm ready to tweak out as I speak. I've been up, down, bad snake, it don't even matter cause I still make my way. Catch me on a private jet Long way from that greyhound. You can't be like Glizz when you grow up if you stay down. That's how I take my pain down. I used to want an alley that cost my chain now trying to split a wig chopper sing like James Brown they say money talk what the gonna say now? Jesus. And that record is made away by Key Glock off of his new album, Glockelli the Dawn. That is in your phones, on DSPs and wherever you copy your music from. That was dope beat Flipper. I'm going to the West Coast. This is exhibit and Simba. American Idols. King Maker, he went crazy on us. Simba went crazy. He went nuts. So next, huh? Where does she go? Tell me ain't no mountain high enough fire trucks. You know what happens when them wise touch made a gang of noise. With these quiet bucks I move in silence. You gotta keep a pair of quiet chucks. It's been one hell of a ride. Pray for plenty more have you talking to a ghost like you did me more celebrating my losses let the hit friendly war you when you're taught that's what this benny for we came from nothing you appreciate everything I know that pain only family you got is your game Praying for your day in the sun but it never came to let them kill your dreams like Martin after Lorraine so insightful pick up the rifle American Idol hyperin IO you better get geico or die slow cut to the chase we all got music to face exhibit back at the dinner table sitting 1948 but this what I know crack babies with high hopes come look into Moscow these days everything a touch go pyro different flames, different name, different game if you think flying private makes you rich we are on different planes. Trey showed us what happens after math. Invest in yourself that's how you get to the bag. Every bit of bitcoin was built to take your last why with the metaverse you can never touch the cash. You say the wealthiest businessman becomes become suicidal Give a we up they can suck my eiffel deals with the devil what would you do for a title? It's all my people American idols Papa was a rolling stone Mama raised me on her own she ain't do no wrong all my idols dead it ain't coming home I just wish I wouldn't have glorified I shouldn't have known drug deals, robberies and pippin hoes But I can't blame myself for being pro broke, crammed in pigeonhole it's rare when get it right and crack the code Especially from the stove that's why most of us look up the hole Hop off from the worst when hate you at your best cause people feel like it's a certain amount of seats to success I'm dying for respect I'm not living with no regrets cause people who got regrets be down playing your check Nick Cannon rich enough to go live on the island think he corny cause he ain't kill nobody Kyrie donate 20 million still ain't take no credit Kanye dropping Jews and now he too messing to my in the streets who out here killing these crackers want you dead so they can traumatize your children they make us kill our own through circumstances we was given you only killed my idol cause he had you in your feelings. Breaking news out of Southern California. Eric R. Holder Jr. Was sentenced to 60 years to life in prison for the murder of Nipsey hussle back in 20002019 older was also convicted of two counts of attempted voluntary manslaughter in the death of the famous rapper. Rapper as American Idol Exhibit and Simba off Exhibit's album kingmaker, which actually has got a lot of slaps on it. Yeah, yeah. That King Mac album is hard. Yeah, I did get a chance to listen to that. Shouts Exhibit man shout to shout tax. I'm going to aegion. The song is called Brie breathe Suck on. Had a long day I just want to see your face it I don't want to wait swing around my way been going at it going back and forth? You've been real dramatic and I'm no o. Let's get stuck like magnets right here on this floor? You know me too. I don't need no breaks I want you on me. You've been acting real strange I know what you need. You need some of this. That right? I know how to feel it's. They don't know this the only game I'm playing your little attitude cute, unfaded, pleased all you big men that don't you waste it se cuz you got some tension we need to. We been going at it going back and forth. You've been real dramatic and I know a f. Let's get stuck like magnets right here on this floor. We both know the deal that's just how I feel baby I notice your true baby don't worry about these deals baby show me that it's true baby I don't need no break weeks I want you on me. You've been acting real strange I know what you need you need some of this. That right I know how to feel as Asian breathe. Shout out to the band. That record was absolutely fire, and it ended up right as I was about to come say something off mic to Mark that the audience shouldn't have heard. Well, Mark has a sleeper, then you. Is there another one? He does. Hey. Yeah. So this is a little bit off the beaten path, but this is my favorite living singer, Gregory Porter, and this is one of my favorite songs of his called no love Dying. One of the great jazz vocalists of this generation. Okay, let's hear it. Okay. All right, back to the T. There will be no love that's dying here. The bird that flew in through my window simply lost his way. He broke his wing I helped him heal animals Then he. He flew away. Well, the death of love is everywhere but I won't let it be. There will be no love is dying here for me. So my man, Lou Rawls right here. This is Sammy Davis Maggot get your like, the most decorous in the world. Sound like Kanye about to drop some ill soon as the beat drop way too. Yeah, there will be no love that's dying here. I need a Kodiak or something for this. Yeah, you know, I think I won the Grammy for best album, like, three, four years in a row. Mark paid for three. A sweet old lady, y' all just not in the midst. I feel I need to be in a cigar lounge. Yeah, I need like an ascot. I need an ascot got for this house. You know, I'm bring y come in here next month. I'm bring y tick get y tickets. Can I wear my ascot? I'mma cube it a boss. He's coming. All right. That's brand new music. Oh. Oh, no. Yeah. Oh, let. That's. Look at that. That was some. That's Gregory Porter. No love. Gregory Ford. Somebody's Henry Ford. My Michael Porter Jr. That sound like the. That gave the slaves the strength, strength to escape. That sound like that's the last that they heard before freedom. It's not like the song. When they seen freedom when they run it. Canada's right there. Well, Canada's right there. That is not where we would. People ran to Canada for freedom. Right? About wrong. Yeah, you're right. Okay. Right. Don't listen to these unwashed, unlettered Negroes. Don't listen to crazy. Don't listen to me. I don't know. Well, for the audience out there, Gregory Porter is. Is one of the most celebrated jazz vocalists in the world, has won the Grammy Award for best jazz album and jazz vocals multiple times, and he's generally regarded around the world as maybe the best living singer of his. Of the genre. So. So he is alive. All right? He's like 40N. What are you talking about? He's 40 years old, Derek. Reporter's like, he's like 50. He's older than me, but he's not that much older. Wait, if that just now was 40 years old and he's in Brooklyn. Oh, let me Shut up. He will. Yeah. He might down. He get more blues hands. All right, man. Let me see. Breaking news. Kid Cudi is set to testify in Diddy's federal trial this week. Oh, this nigga's going free, man. I don't know if Kid C is gonna get there. Yeah, everybody, they load early. I'm waiting till it's done. Cuz I ain't. Cuz I ain't. We said anything out here. Now they shooting, they load. I think he double down. All over the nipple or whatever. Yo. Freedom, freedom, freedom. I want to meet that single. Sound like Django. Stop this. Imani was talking about why y' all didn't appreciate. I thought that was a cine soundtrack. Vin Reigns took his off Rosewood when he lift himself up and cut the rope. Yeah, that sound like the lead single off the Rosewood soundtrack right there. Out his boot. He pulled himself out. Yeah, that sound like the black version of. And I guess that's why they call it the blue. Strip it down. Everybody go, go, grab Be good and Liquid Spirit. Is it on? I'm good. Get. Be good. Get Liquid Spirit. Great albums. I'm only cop. Take me to the album. Three of his best albums. Amazing albums. Again, never hear him if it ain't no sale. I ain't copping it. I ain't up. That's just. It's not for me. And I. And I guess that's why they call it the Blue Mark. Be playing some. All right, let me see. I don't even know where to go after Gregory Ford did that. Shout out to Gregory Port Porter. Sorry. I'm not trying to be funny. Gregory Porter. I'm not trying to be Grammy award winning vocalist Gregory Porter. We love you, man. You got some jotting John Legend there or something. Oh, he gonna. You. Oh, my God. See y' all, too. Oh, my God. Heard that you said on your show. All right. Holy. No, he not. That's what I'm trying to say. Oh, what date is this? Great show, y' all. Indeed. I can't wait to talk to y' all. Yo, when this broadcast. As soon as he hit that button. I cannot wait to talk to y' all in private. Hit the 1.5 button. Do nothing. Just sit there. Yeah, yeah, don't. Don't grab that nothing. Don't run the Patreon either. My talk ain't gonna be on Patreon. It ain't gonna be nowhere where you can find it. YouTube at all. Sorry, y' all. Oh, my Lord. Come on, get us out of here. Yeah, I'm trying. I'm trying. Yo, pray for everybody. Till next time. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need it. Yada yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada. Life is a yada, yada, yada yada. And lastly, the baddies. Y Y Y Y oh, man. Anybody do anything exciting this week? Not enough on this weekend, man. All right. Saving your energy for the weekend? No, I used up all my energy and saving some for next week. I'm saving mine. For the weekend. We baby free. So. All right. All right. Fire. Yeah. You know you. I'm hitting Brooklyn on the weekend. That's it for that Memorial Day. Memorial Day. I'm be out there. I'mma come out there and with you. Me and J. Me and J. Me and J. I'll catch you outside. This is the bet I ain't doing. It's Vincent's birthday party on Saturday. That's Lex. That look crazy. You know we can hear you crazy. I don't give a fuck. Shaking his head at me. Yeah. You E. Oh. I'mma get you a patriot going. Kill you, bro. She calls out to the man. Watch. All right. I'm done. Defend this again, boy. I'm officially done. Okay, Flip, you're done too. Don't say another word till this broadcast ends. Please. Please. I'm say please. I'm being polite. What do you mean? I'm done. I'm. I'm fire twice. Okay. You always try to get fired the month when you sign your new contract. You are trying. Okay. I mean. Yeah. Let's go. Y' all hold it down, man. Hopefully y' all enjoyed this broadcast as much as we have enjoyed delivering it to you. Y' all hold it down out there. Shout out to all the kids getting ready for graduation. Graduation is coming up. I know. My little brother graduates next week. I think prom is coming up too. Graduates from what it is. High school. I went to a graduation this weekend. I'll be moving. Bro. Yeah. What? What? My little brother's graduated from high school next week. Why they look. What happened? Hold up. What? Little brother Antoine. What? What am I missing? That's. That's. Wait. Ethan and Anthony graduate from high school. Man. I thought them little is like ninth. Ninth grade. What? Yeah. Bro. Life come at you. We old. We are old. We old. It's okay. What? Yeah. So shout out to all the kids. Again. Shout out to everybody participating in youth athletics while. Wow. Wow. Shout out to all the NIL agents out there. Wow. I'm pocket watching. Yes. Wow. Who else? I want to shout out. Shout out. Shout out to Duff. Shout out to Duff. Just cause. Prayers to Duff. Who else? Who else? I want to shout out Mona Prius to Mona. Mona. Don't call me white girl should be here on Friday. Oh. Should be here on Friday to pay us a visit. Nice. That's the Philly. Philly. Stand up. I love her. Oh, yeah. We absolutely love the friend of the show. Friend of the show. Shout out that trainer that got you benching225 shout out to Donnie, man. Shout out to my trainer as well, man. Trying to get this summer body right. My brother Ish inspired me. Just trying to get right. That's it. That's it. We about to go downstairs and watch it happen, right? Flip. Yes, sir. Well, no. You said you believe me. He didn't. So now I'm lifting for flip. Flip. Not worth the lift. Actually, I wouldn't mind going to get a little stretch. I need to do it. Am I worth the lift? I would mind going to get a little stretch. I need. I need the lift. I've been nursing jbp. Jbp. Where would you be without the jbp? Who is that?