Episode 838 | "Thank You For That, That Was Informative"

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Joe Budden Podcast Episode: 838 | "Thank You For That, That Was Informative"
Release Date: June 28, 2025
Host/Authors: The Joe Budden Network
Description: Tune into Joe Budden and his friends as they navigate through personal stories, industry insights, and lively debates in this engaging episode.

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1. Homie Court and Internal Conflicts

Timestamp: [00:00] - [05:00]

The episode opens with a playful yet intense exchange among the hosts regarding internal discussions about releasing certain content. Joe Budden emphasizes the importance of discretion and clarity in their communications.

Joe Budden (02:23): "So this is homie court."

Melissa Ford (03:38): "Does that not indicate to you that I am extraordinarily against this being put out?"

2. Graduation Reflections

Timestamp: [05:03] - [26:18]

Joe Budden shares heartfelt stories about his brothers' graduations, highlighting the emotional moments and the dynamics within his family. The discussion delves into the pressures and expectations surrounding academic achievements.

Joe Budden (21:06): "I cried the whole time."

Erickson (26:07): "He has all these 40 years of trauma that me and you ain't never."

3. Education: College vs. Trade School

Timestamp: [26:21] - [37:24]

The conversation shifts to the debate between pursuing higher education and opting for trade schools. The hosts discuss the financial implications, personal passions, and the evolving job market's demands.

Joe Budden (32:58): "If nothing goes your way, you can walk away with making 50 grand a year."

Melissa Ford (31:34): "They got something going on."

4. Jeff Bezos' Venice Wedding Controversy

Timestamp: [37:28] - [53:22]

The hosts critique Jeff Bezos' extravagant wedding in Venice, addressing local protests and the environmental concerns raised by the city's residents. The discussion touches on the impact of such high-profile events on local communities.

Melissa Ford (40:16): "Venice has a lot of canals. It's built on the water."

Joe Budden (42:16): "I'm gonna buy this and send y' all to. What you say, Venus."

5. T. Pain vs. Drake: A Music Industry Beef

Timestamp: [53:23] - [99:36]

A substantial portion of the episode delves into the longstanding tension between T. Pain and Drake. The hosts analyze public statements, leaked clips, and the potential impact on both artists' careers. They explore themes of respect, artistic influence, and personal grievances within the music industry.

Joe Budden (76:55): "I see the resentment."

Erickson (84:41): "But you also can't guilt me for being respectful."

6. NBA Draft Discussions

Timestamp: [99:36] - [138:59]

The hosts review the recent NBA draft, highlighting standout picks and potential trade implications. They offer insights into team strategies, player potentials, and the overall excitement surrounding the new season.

Erickson (65:01): "A lot comes with that."

Joe Budden (68:54): "We shall see."

7. Movie Rankings: Top 100 of the 21st Century

Timestamp: [138:59] - [197:43]

Melissa Ford presents a rundown of the New York Times' top 100 movies of the 21st century. The hosts debate the rankings, express their favorites, and discuss the cultural impact of these films.

Melissa Ford (158:10): "Number 20 is The Wolf of Wall Street."

Joe Budden (161:57): "That's just what I was waiting for."

8. Legal Battles and the RICO Case

Timestamp: [197:43] - [207:46]

Joe Budden discusses his ongoing legal case involving RICO charges. The conversation covers the complexities of the case, the prosecution's strategies, and the implications of potential convictions on his assets and freedom.

Melissa Ford (138:55): "The jury must find that he knowingly transported..."

Erickson (144:43): "He's not got no evidence."

9. Podcast Promotion and Moving Forward

Timestamp: [207:46] - [215:00]

As the episode nears its end, the hosts announce changes in their podcast's location due to lease termination. They reassure listeners of their continued presence and tease upcoming content, including new music releases and exclusive videos.

Joe Budden (200:18): "The owner of this beautiful establishment has decided to terminate the lease here."

Ish (215:00): "We gotta get back to it."

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Conclusion

Episode 838 of The Joe Budden Podcast offers a blend of personal anecdotes, industry critiques, and spirited discussions. From heartfelt graduation stories to intense debates about education and high-profile legal battles, the hosts engage listeners with their candid conversations and diverse perspectives. The episode concludes with announcements about the podcast's future directions, ensuring fans stay connected and excited for what's to come.

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Notable Quotes:

• Joe Budden (32:58): "If nothing goes your way, you can walk away with making 50 grand a year."

• Melissa Ford (40:16): "Venice has a lot of canals. It's built on the water."

• Joe Budden (76:55): "I see the resentment."

• Erickson (144:43): "He's not got no evidence."

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This comprehensive summary captures the essence of Episode 838, highlighting key discussions and memorable moments. Whether you're a long-time listener or new to The Joe Budden Podcast, this episode promises insightful and engaging content.

Transcript

[Joe Budden]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show.

[Melissa Ford]

I see what you're doing.

[Ish]

Making a lot of money. Did you put that out, too?

[Melissa Ford]

Why does he know?

[Joe Budden]

Because he's intuitive.

[Ish]

What is it out?

[Joe Budden]

Are we recording?

[Parks]

Yes.

[Ish]

Oh, is that.

[Joe Budden]

What are you looking at me for? I didn't talk to him. I didn't talk to him about nothing. I mean, I only said throughout the whole piece, hey, I'm putting this out.

[Ish]

I didn't know it came out.

[Joe Budden]

Throughout the entire piece, I'm sitting with this man. I'm putting this out.

[Melissa Ford]

I did not.

[Erickson]

Said it a hundred times.

[Melissa Ford]

I literally. Why did everybody hear that and I didn't?

[Ish]

Cause you were in the midst of.

[Erickson]

He said that shit, but he was like, yo, I'm telling y' all, I'm.

[Melissa Ford]

Maybe it was because I was, like, in an extreme emotional stress, and so was the other party. So we were not focused on that.

[Joe Budden]

That.

[Melissa Ford]

That possibly could be the reason.

[Ish]

I'm not gonna lie.

[Joe Budden]

Audience, welcome. He didn't say it. Welcome. Welcome. First of all, we are so happy to have you. Please take your shoes off at the door. Get comfy. Mi casa yukasa. Sue. Nigger and Sue's casa. And free Sue. God damn it. And shout out to Sues from back in the day. Anyway, hate to open up with internal beef, but as many of you predicted, this week, it's begun. Yes, there's a lot of help me with strife coming from the right, but.

[Erickson]

The Republicans did.

[Joe Budden]

The right physically.

[Parks]

The right.

[Erickson]

The right, it.

[Ish]

Right. Look, right here, it seemed like you just treat us how you want.

[Joe Budden]

So this is homie court. Oh, and that's when it get there. When you beefing with your girl about who watched the vision, she say something like that. It just seems like for the last eight months, you've been disconnected. It's like, wait, what? How did I get here? You tricked me.

[Erickson]

That nigga compared you to his young man.

[Ish]

I know. I heard him.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, shit. My guy turning on me now.

[Ish]

So I would just say this.

[Parks]

Web.

[Joe Budden]

Listen. You hear you, man, Listen. So we open with a brief homie court, and I guess that's me.

[Erickson]

Yeah.

[Ish]

You want to start first, man, you got two cases.

[Joe Budden]

A brief homie court.

[Erickson]

That's crazy.

[Joe Budden]

We got the greatest show on turf coming your way, I promise. Get great, get a vice, get comfy, grab some Uggs.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay, well, let me address the court. If you are asked, hey, how do you feel about this being put out? And your response is, I'm incredibly uncomfortable with that. Raising A, B and C. What's A, B and C?

[Erickson]

Your reasonings.

[Melissa Ford]

The reasoning. The reasoning which includes the other party, you know.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, okay.

[Melissa Ford]

Does that not indicate to you that I am extraordinarily against this being put out? And I also want to mention that we do discuss that we all have, you know, the. The ability to say, edit that part out. We're told that constantly. Aren't at least once an episode.

[Joe Budden]

I agree. As a courtesy.

[Erickson]

I don't know about once an episode, but yeah, yeah, it's so quite frequently.

[Joe Budden]

But do we also recognize that that is a courtesy?

[Erickson]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Ish]

Yes, you are.

[Joe Budden]

It ain't your case yet. Yes, yes, it's a courtesy.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay, so that.

[Joe Budden]

Hold up. Let him go.

[Erickson]

If it's a courtesy, then that means we don't really have the autonomy to say, take it out.

[Ish]

Third case.

[Melissa Ford]

Thank you.

[Joe Budden]

I disagree with that, but continue.

[Erickson]

Just the ability to say that is a courtesy because you go somewhere else, you can't say that. That's where the courtesy comes.

[Joe Budden]

But.

[Ish]

Okay, I see, I see.

[Erickson]

I agree.

[Parks]

But. But that ties into our conversation later.

[Erickson]

It does it? Definitely.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Erickson]

But then we don't have the capability to do that. Not to control the edit, but the ability to say, hey, I would like.

[Joe Budden]

That edited out is a courtesy.

[Erickson]

True.

[Ish]

Got it.

[Joe Budden]

Melissa Ford, do you recognize.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay, so then it's Melissa Ford.

[Joe Budden]

Do you recognize that as a courtesy? Yes or no?

[Melissa Ford]

No.

[Joe Budden]

Why not?

[Melissa Ford]

Because if that's the case, if it's a courtesy, but you're going to make your decision anyways and it disregards what my feelings are, then at. After give evidence as to why I think it's not a good idea to put it out. Then it's just lip service.

[Erickson]

That feeds into the courtesy piece. Like the, The.

[Joe Budden]

The.

[Erickson]

The owners are giving you a courtesy.

[Melissa Ford]

A courtesy to what?

[Erickson]

Express your opinion. Express it.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, wow. Okay, so when you say you have the ability to have things edited out.

[Parks]

True.

[Melissa Ford]

Exactly. It isn't.

[Erickson]

Gotcha.

[Joe Budden]

But you do have the question.

[Erickson]

You don't.

[Melissa Ford]

You don't.

[Erickson]

Maybe not always, but you do. Okay, so we've all had something up here that we've said, hey, can you take that out? And it has been taken out. Yes.

[Melissa Ford]

Yes.

[Erickson]

So then it does exist. There Too.

[Ish]

But also in the foot.

[Erickson]

Just not 100% of the time.

[Melissa Ford]

So why ask me if I want. If it's okay to put this in and then you're gonna do it anyway when I express, I don't want this.

[Ish]

Also, in said footage, he repeated constantly, yo, I'm putting this out. Just so you both know, he repeated about, like, five times. I heard him.

[Joe Budden]

I did agree. Can I take the stand?

[Erickson]

Not yet. But if. If you are saying, yo, I'm putting this out. I'm putting this out. I'm putting this out. All the parties know that after the fact. Why Ash?

[Ish]

I agree with.

[Erickson]

Comfortable with this being put out.

[Ish]

He shouldn't ask that.

[Erickson]

Should just say, yo, I'm putting this off.

[Melissa Ford]

That too.

[Joe Budden]

Or that could be a way of.

[Erickson]

Saying, shut the up. No, that could be a way of reminding you that this is going out. I took when he was saying, yo, I'm putting this out. I'm putting this out. And putting this out as, yo, y' all should shut the fuck up. That's what I thought. And do this later. Because I'm putting it out. That's why. I would have stopped.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Ish]

He even told Parks, take this. Put it out. I'm putting this out. He said that. Well, both parties were. I thought you was aware. But he was aware.

[Melissa Ford]

No.

[Joe Budden]

Can I take the stand?

[Melissa Ford]

Fine.

[Joe Budden]

Can I take the stand?

[Melissa Ford]

Go ahead.

[Erickson]

You swear to truth? To the whole truth?

[Joe Budden]

Not much on gay. On God, no. Dead ass. Turn down a little bit. Yeah. Pause that for a minute. Two members up here have a spat. One person started that spat on main airwaves. One person set that spat off to another person.

[Ish]

But you kind of. You kind of. Joe, Wait, hold on.

[Melissa Ford]

Thank you.

[Erickson]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Wait, wait, hold on. That's not true. That's not true. Started the spat was her saying, did I do something to you?

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Erickson]

That's the start.

[Melissa Ford]

It's not a. It's not a start. It's a question. That was a question.

[Erickson]

We don't get there without that question.

[Ish]

You a legend.

[Erickson]

You don't get there without that question. So that is the start.

[Joe Budden]

Y' all talking over each other, pausing for a minute.

[Erickson]

That is definitely.

[Ish]

I heard you whisper to Mel to, don't you got some to get off to? I heard you say that. Don't you got some shit to get off Mark? You said that to her.

[Joe Budden]

I. Not in the footage that I seen. That's not true. Oh, so you edited that part? Dog, I had no idea that Mel was going to do that.

[Erickson]

Yeah. I don't think.

[Joe Budden]

Number one. And number two, for reasons that can't be said, Mark was in a different zone.

[Erickson]

That's true.

[Ish]

He was.

[Erickson]

Yes, he was.

[Melissa Ford]

That is also.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not scripting that.

[Ish]

I see.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, I promise we coming to y' all soon. Mel said, yo, do you have an issue with me? Because she misunderstood something that was being said. He said he was saying something, trying to be an ally, and she misunderstood it. Fired at that nigga.

[Melissa Ford]

I didn't fire her.

[Joe Budden]

Mark is articulate, so he ain't us. So he gonna slow walk the dog like he did. And at the end of it, Mel. Yeah, at the end of it.

[Parks]

Objection to the usage of the word.

[Joe Budden]

Dog at the end of it.

[Melissa Ford]

Right? Don't get disrespectful. It was a. I know, I understand, but keep going.

[Joe Budden]

See, that's what happened then.

[Melissa Ford]

I understand the term walk the dog. I get that. I get the term disrespectful. I know. I fido commentary.

[Joe Budden]

So listen, Marcus articulate. He slow walked the dog to. Whereas it was tough to misunderstand what just occurred. And then I said, end it. And throughout the whole clip, I'm saying, hey, I'm putting this out. I'm putting this out. And you're doing that while cameras are rolling and mics are on in a main pod. I only stopped it from the main because it was disrupting our groove. I didn't think it was so bad when I watched it back. It was. It was pretty dope. I send it to Mark. Bomb, yo, lay eyes on this. Tell me what you think. Hear me back. Yo, I think this is dope. The discourse is important. It shows how we can heal. It shows how we get through. He hit me with all of this. He said, I think it's great. And I wasn't gonna send it to mail because I know Mel a little bit, but it's not right.

[Erickson]

It's only fair.

[Joe Budden]

So I sent it to mail. Bomb. Hey, lay eyes on this. Let me know what you think. I think we both were triggered, and there's clearly a lot of pain.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay, that's not how I said it.

[Ish]

And I said.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, what?

[Melissa Ford]

That's not how I said it. That's not how I said it.

[Joe Budden]

And it didn't go out, so. No, it did not go out.

[Erickson]

Oh. Oh, it didn't go out?

[Joe Budden]

No, it didn't go out.

[Erickson]

So what are we talking about? What the fuck?

[Joe Budden]

Now it's triggered again.

[Ish]

Don't put that. It didn't go out.

[Joe Budden]

No. It didn't go out.

[Ish]

Put that out.

[Joe Budden]

What are we doing?

[Ish]

Put that shit out. Bro, bro, put that out.

[Melissa Ford]

Trigger, I'm not tripping.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, Mel is a manipulator.

[Erickson]

What are we arguing?

[Ish]

If it didn't go out, how am I a manipulator?

[Erickson]

Mel, I ain't gonna hold you. By the way you approach. You had me thinking this was out.

[Melissa Ford]

I thought it was out.

[Joe Budden]

So she don't even know.

[Erickson]

She don't got no evidence.

[Joe Budden]

She has no idea because he.

[Melissa Ford]

You.

[Ish]

Put it out.

[Melissa Ford]

Did he not make it seem like right now that it was out? Because you had you thinking that it was out? You thinking it's out. You thinking it's out.

[Erickson]

But that was based on your interaction. I don't know nothing about that.

[Melissa Ford]

I did not know if it was out or not. I did not know. That's what it seemed like he did by way of this conversation up here.

[Joe Budden]

All right, ladies and gentlemen of Nigeria.

[Ish]

I rest my case.

[Erickson]

That was.

[Ish]

That was everybody.

[Erickson]

That.

[Joe Budden]

I rest my case.

[Ish]

But hold on, hold on, hold on.

[Melissa Ford]

What?

[Joe Budden]

Hey, wait, wait a minute. Shout out to all the listeners out there. Hey, who they.

[Erickson]

Who?

[Joe Budden]

We go. That's funny.

[Ish]

Hey, hold on, Parks. Hey, yo, real quick, though. I think you should put it out. I think you should put it out.

[Joe Budden]

I did plan on speaking to Mel later about it.

[Ish]

I think it was just so we.

[Joe Budden]

Could lay eyes on it.

[Ish]

As long as Marcus, both should be fine.

[Joe Budden]

Because, listen, I'm telling y' all, I think some. I think sometimes we take advantage. Not we. Let me not say that, but it's looking like that. That little courtesy can be taken advantage of. If you be sitting here on air and you set it on somebody and they respond and. And that's the end of it. I agree. You set it off on that nigga.

[Ish]

Did she see. She saw it, though. She watched it.

[Erickson]

Let me ask you a question, though.

[Joe Budden]

What up?

[Erickson]

You set it off and steal on A. And they eat it and then they scoop slam you. Now what?

[Joe Budden]

What do you mean, now what?

[Erickson]

Now what?

[Joe Budden]

You got scooped. Slammed on the floor. You said it on.

[Erickson]

You don't want the world to see that happen.

[Joe Budden]

Well, that's where. Rest in peace, Q. Worldstar really changed the game.

[Erickson]

There you go.

[Joe Budden]

Like when you get snuffed at the gas station. Now, there's a possibility that. Hey, but everybody might not see it that way. Some people might see it the other way.

[Melissa Ford]

The fact of the matter is, is that that particular type of situation I have dealt with more than anybody up here, more than Anybody up here, and I've taken it on the chin every single fucking time. So don't talk to me about me feeling like I'm. Oh, I don't. I'm embarrassed or humiliated because he dog walked me or whatever the case is. That's not what the fuck happened.

[Joe Budden]

Stop.

[Melissa Ford]

No, I'm just paraphrasing right now because y' all.

[Joe Budden]

But you're lying on us.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm.

[Joe Budden]

We didn't slow walk the dog don't mean dog you.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

That's not what that means, man.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay, okay.

[Erickson]

It just means he slowly got to his point.

[Melissa Ford]

Yes, okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Ish]

But if you didn't feel away, you wouldn't mind it being put out anyway. Especially if Mark said he's fine with it. You obviously feel away about the dog.

[Melissa Ford]

Hey, listen, listen. Majority rules. Do what you want, okay? Majority rules. Do what you want.

[Joe Budden]

Majority does not rule.

[Melissa Ford]

I. I've expressed discomfort with that. I've just. I've expressed.

[Joe Budden]

That should be the end of it.

[Melissa Ford]

But, hey, majority rules. Do what you want.

[Ish]

Respect.

[Joe Budden]

It's her trauma, Joker. She laid down. That's that trauma, Joker, that she lays down. Yeah, get the out of here with that. It ain't. You ain't about to guilt me. This ain't.

[Ish]

It ain't out.

[Joe Budden]

You ain't about to guilt me. This ain't out. Cause we love you. Get the out of here.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, my God. See, that's.

[Joe Budden]

We love you. They about to guilt us because of how we love you. The fuck outta here with that.

[Melissa Ford]

Mm.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, that's another hot segment. Now, anytime y' all would just let me start a block.

[Ish]

Yeah, please, let's just get started. Nah, nah, wait.

[Erickson]

Oh, no. That was only one case.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, now it's pay per view time.

[Ish]

Well, well, here's the thing. I'll make it short and brief. While I was shaking ass in Nashville handling my business, it's a good place to shake ass. And I was happy because I know that the JBN is extremely supportive of Queen's flip. I went to the Airbnb to lie down in the ac, and I received an email from your team, a deduction email, saying that they're gonna duck me doc me my pay because I missed two days of podcast right back in the court. And I mean, I was fine with it. I mean, I saw the price, I didn't like it. I was angry. And then I started to be fine. I said, you know, I know the game. I'm making money. But then I got mad again because.

[Melissa Ford]

The principality of it, right?

[Erickson]

Yeah.

[Ish]

You just leaked. Not you. It just. The numbers leaked. So the numbers leaked and now you want to come at your man for the. I don't like that. I have a problem with it. Told him how I felt about it. I still feel how I feel. I felt away so much that I flew in early. I was supposed to arrive at 3pm I was going to go to sleep at home. I'm fresh off a flight and I'm tired as. But you know what? Dedication is important. I'm gonna show him and everybody out there and the jbn, they can't stop me. You ain't gonna stop this, but you gonna pay, brother.

[Joe Budden]

Can I take the stand real quick?

[Ish]

Yeah, get a ticket.

[Erickson]

Rock out.

[Joe Budden]

The days that they said that you missed. Did you miss them?

[Ish]

Except for today, but yes.

[Joe Budden]

Well, today hadn't happened yet when the email got sent. Yes, true. So did you miss the day that they said you missed?

[Ish]

Yes, I did.

[Joe Budden]

And do you have that verbiage in the contract where that happens?

[Ish]

I shot Ian and Mark show, so I thought it would be good. I thought I could pull a move. Listen, man, look, I just want to get to work and we going to talk about this privately. And I ain't going to lie. I sent your man a message to a lawn joint and unsented.

[Joe Budden]

And he unsented like a cuz you at graduation. Oh, yes.

[Ish]

And I knew you graduation because it didn't, you know.

[Erickson]

Oh, you ain't get that?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, my phone wasn't working.

[Ish]

No, I got an incident, yo.

[Joe Budden]

Fans. I've been watching Think Pieces all week, man. Y' all called the. Y' all said it would happen, man, the right side is going berserk.

[Melissa Ford]

What the thing Pizza say about me and him?

[Joe Budden]

I don't. I'm not doing it with you. Now let's get.

[Ish]

Let's get the show started.

[Joe Budden]

You ain't seen no thing Pieces? No, I watched every one of them. Anyway, listen, I don't even need to intro this now. Like, I know, like, I had an intro. I thought it was pretty fire, but I was here. Yeah, we. We in now. We here now. Mic check, Mic check. Shout out to wherever you might be listening from. We love all of y' all. Yeah, they gonna think we a whole payroll, but I song. I was at home when this dropped, boy. DJ had the exclusive, yo. We got a great show lined up for y' all.

[Ish]

Got to feel me.

[Parks]

Includes Homie Corp.

[Erickson]

You can do that from your phone?

[Ish]

Yeah, he got like a DJ app on his phone, right?

[Parks]

Why you trying to sell.

[Ish]

Sell my secret?

[Parks]

That's crazy.

[Joe Budden]

That's crazy.

[Parks]

You want me to start telling the inside scoop about what happens behind the scenes and flip the network?

[Joe Budden]

No, he. No, he does not want you to do that. No, no, no, listen.

[Ish]

You can ask me that.

[Joe Budden]

No, he does not want that to happen at all. He don't want that to happen.

[Ish]

He just saw me in the lobby chilling.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Now he don't want nobody. He's. Yeah. Invisible NDAs, boys. He got him with us. You know what? To share the flipping network details. Hi, you. Hey. I don't have all the drops, so I got you. That's most of them.

[Parks]

That's most of them.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Mark's not even here, so.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, he's here.

[Melissa Ford]

Spirit, look, I got. God damn it.

[Joe Budden]

See? You say on air, you say on air, and they be mad when. When that's trying to do a. You know, I mean. But I respect you, so.

[Ish]

That's not fair, though. That's not fair.

[Joe Budden]

Mel's in a tough spot. She does take a lot of peer, but.

[Ish]

She does. But Mel is also.

[Joe Budden]

She also takes advantage.

[Parks]

Welcome to episode 838 of the Joe Button Podcast.

[Joe Budden]

No, you do take advantage of it. What? Episode 838. Welcome to episode 838 of the Joe Button podcast. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, highly favored host, Joe Button, here with some really amazing people. This broadcast is brought to you by Fuel by Powered by Prize Picks. Prize picks, gang. To my right, the legendary Melissa Fo Bigqueen split in the building.

[Ish]

Yes, yes, yes, yes. I'm here.

[Parks]

Fresh off the flight.

[Ish]

First class.

[Parks]

First class, Flip.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, you did first class.

[Ish]

I did.

[Joe Budden]

Stop playing with him, man.

[Parks]

On the short. On the short notice, too.

[Erickson]

You got to come home. Had to get that money back.

[Joe Budden]

Had to get that money back, huh? And where you was at? Memphis. Where you with.

[Ish]

I was in Nashville.

[Joe Budden]

Hot chicken.

[Ish]

It's not about that. Yes, I did.

[Joe Budden]

King. Wah wah. Antoine is here. Big Ish himself. The freeziest of them all. Freeze is here.

[Erickson]

Yo, yo, yo.

[Joe Budden]

Big Parks is in the building. Po is here. Corey is here. Erickson is here. Savon and Tan are here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here. Shout out to each and every last one of y' all. Shout out to new people as well. I know it's a bunch of y' all. Shout the patronus and shout out and shout to the patrol always. And shout out to the patrons. How y' all doing? Great, man.

[Ish]

Doing good.

[Joe Budden]

Man, Good, good.

[Erickson]

How you got that little heat wave over?

[Parks]

Yeah, yeah.

[Erickson]

Hot as. I ain't gonna hold you.

[Ish]

How you feeling, man?

[Joe Budden]

I feel good.

[Ish]

How was your brother's graduation?

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my brother's graduation. Shout out to my brothers. My little brother graduated yesterday. My other little brother's graduating right now, so shout out to Ethan and Anthony. I did go to the graduation, but because. Why not?

[Erickson]

I'm glad you went.

[Ish]

I'm happy you went.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my. Where do I begin here.

[Parks]

Was it indoor or outdoor?

[Joe Budden]

Indoor.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Erickson]

That's good.

[Parks]

Well, how was the AC indoors?

[Joe Budden]

It was cool. It was cool. It's a private school, so it wasn't a long. A long graduation. Like, it wasn't a whole bunch of kids. Like, oh, that's the best. Yeah. This was a private school. All of these kids, when they put their face on the big projector screen, they. They already had the college that they were going to, most of them.

[Erickson]

So how much scholarship money they got.

[Joe Budden]

And all that other. Yeah, yeah. So. So that was real fly.

[Parks]

Did they want to stop and pod with you?

[Joe Budden]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Ish]

Not at all.

[Joe Budden]

No. I'm too old now. Don't nobody. The principal knew who I was. Okay. Yeah. He said I ain't need a ticket, so shout out to him. But you're not ticket to graduation. Apparently. It's a big deal. My little sister go. It's a few people that didn't go because the ticket restriction all the way to kindergarten.

[Erickson]

Yeah, it's different. It ain't just. They don't play.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. So I do appreciate the gesture.

[Erickson]

Awkward conversation, too.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. You're right about that. Yes, it is. Yeah. So. But yeah, we had a. We. We had a. We had a good time.

[Parks]

That's all it matters.

[Joe Budden]

I cried the whole time.

[Ish]

First of all, for real.

[Joe Budden]

I cried then entire time. Anytime.

[Ish]

Such a.

[Joe Budden]

I'm with you. The salutator, the. The salad, the salutatorian. What do you say? What is it?

[Melissa Ford]

Salutatorian.

[Joe Budden]

Salutatorian. Get up there. Like, these is young kids.

[Ish]

Yeah, he's right.

[Joe Budden]

They parents, they brothers. They is in the audience. Like, they get up there and just. They talk about how tough the school is. So they get up there, start talking about the SAT scores, the attendance, the four years. They start talking to the teachers about, you know, bring you back a little bit. I dropped out, but I remember some of that shit. Oh, we couldn't get through this without Mr. Bass encouraging us the whole way. Oh, Mr. Charles. Those tests was hard. We stayed up all night facetiming our friends to get through it. But we got. Nah. But it's a graduation, so it wasn't no noise. I'm joking. It was the silent tears. So you just sitting there chilling, really? And just tears.

[Ish]

Just.

[Joe Budden]

You keep trying to wipe them on the low. I'm like, nope. Them just keep rolling out. I might have cried when the perfect attendance wanted.

[Erickson]

He made it every day.

[Joe Budden]

Yo. It's so tough.

[Ish]

It's so tough to do it.

[Joe Budden]

Nah, for real. And then, so. And then in the beginning of the graduation, they had Duke come out, and me and my dad is sitting there as musicians, so he come out with the bagpipe or whatever the.

[Parks]

That machine was just making you cry sometimes.

[Joe Budden]

He had the skirt on. He started doing this. It sounds like people crying, and it's killed. Yeah, but he was playing a bass line. This is an interesting instrument. He's playing the bass line that never stopped. And then, I swear he played, like, 11 different songs with them flute chips. So my dad gonna tap me and say, that's one of the toughest instruments in the world to play. And I'm like, yeah, man, look hard. He's on his ninth song. But why? Black people don't play that shit. But he ain't answering me.

[Parks]

So it's not very, like, rhythmic. It's very droney.

[Joe Budden]

But the way the songs was coming.

[Parks]

Out, it's like the white church. It's like the white church organ guy.

[Joe Budden]

Same sound, but. And when a black guy gets on the. And it's a different bop. So I would like to see the black guy on this instrument here, this bagpipe or whatever it is. But cool. He played nine songs. That was fly. And then whoever got up there to sing, I guess the whole school knew this singer person, the teacher that could sing. And she got up there, and she was black, so now she did the Stars Spangled Banner. But it was like, a black woman is up here.

[Erickson]

77 Adlet.

[Joe Budden]

Runs and shit. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Parks]

Gotta balance out the back.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, this is the remix.

[Ish]

And the rockets.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, wait, wait. And then right when it was the last song of the Star Spangled Banner, she went in to lift every voice and say. So she went right into that.

[Erickson]

She crossfeeding.

[Joe Budden]

And she remixed the. Out of that one. But she had a great voice, so.

[Parks]

I mean, that's fine.

[Joe Budden]

Go ahead. To livery. To victory. To victory. I thought, hit me, but all right, cool, cool. Say a bunch of awards. Oh, no. And then I fought with my dad.

[Melissa Ford]

About what?

[Ish]

Oh, man.

[Joe Budden]

And then I fought with my dad. Which is why I didn't want to come to this in the first place, because I didn't graduate. So I know I'm going to sit here and cry. And me and you don't have the same views when it comes to these things.

[Ish]

Okay, I don't understand.

[Joe Budden]

Long story. Less long. Two twin brothers going to the same college.

[Ish]

Okay.

[Erickson]

Oh, are they?

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Parks]

But they went to different high schools.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Parks]

Interesting.

[Joe Budden]

One is very excited to go, the other one not so much. Not so much. Okay. And now Pop is telling me, but the other one is announced, like, kind of Ethan. Either kind of quiet, too, so. Either cool. So he quieted to himself. He like nice things. He's recognized that about himself. And he knows that he wants to make a lot of money. So I want to start a business. That's what he wants to do. Pop is like, he can do that and go to school. Yeah, cool. Pop said. Because now, first of all, now you triggering me because he talked to me like I'm his brother. I don't think. I don't know if Pop know that I'm his kid. Sometimes he's sitting there saying, me and. Me and my kids have a deal.

[Ish]

Wait, what?

[Joe Budden]

We at the graduation and you gotta stir up this deep trauma.

[Erickson]

I ain't signed the paper, nigga.

[Joe Budden]

I got all these 40 years of trauma that me and you ain't never.

[Erickson]

Really kicked in the ballot.

[Joe Budden]

And I'm at the graduation and this nigga says, yeah, me and my sons, we had a deal.

[Ish]

His sons.

[Erickson]

I didn't get that contract. You know, I'm.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, but cool. I don't say that. Got it.

[Parks]

Got it.

[Joe Budden]

He said, they. I told them, gotta go to college. Gotta go to college, Gotta go to college. This is instilled in you for their whole life. And if you do that, I will support you in anything you want to do. I said, oh, that's a trick. I said, because if somebody don't want to go to college, then who gives a fuck that you supporting them in something that they don't want to do? And why do we. So then start telling me. I told him, once you go to school, you can't come back home. I said, excuse me? I said, oh, so you about to have your first run with a rebellious kid, and you don't know what that looked like yet because now what you going to do when he can't come back home? But he ain't fucking with school. So now he go fuck the old. The older chicken town. Like all of us do. Get her pregnant. Live with her. And now you got now. And now. Yeah, now that's the world that you living in now. Like, do you want to play these games?

[Erickson]

Yo, dog, you gave a positive side. Yeah. You know how much it costs to live out here, nigga? Start doing something else. Yo, when I went to school in Baltimore, you know, I went to Morgan, my nigga, most niggas didn't come back home. Cause they couldn't afford New York prices. Yeah, they never came back home because they couldn't afford to live here. So niggas made a way down Baltimore. Cause the cost of living was so cheap that if you would have came back here, you couldn't afford it. You would have been living with your parents after living on your own for.

[Joe Budden]

For four years, dog. That's where our fight goes. My dad thinks, because of his thinking from whatever era he come from, that a degree guarantees you $150,000 job and up.

[Erickson]

It guarantees you enough money to sustain yourself. And it don't. No, don't. Not even.

[Joe Budden]

And I'm saying because, you know, my views are different on this, Pop. That's not a guarantee today.

[Erickson]

It's less likely to even happen today.

[Joe Budden]

And I argue the other side of it, see, because part of me is offended. It. Because I'm the example that I'm talking about in front of you, and I came from your dick. But when I say that he tastes. That's what he says. I don't want to hear. I don't want to hear none of that, dog.

[Erickson]

And not just that.

[Joe Budden]

He says, you live in another world.

[Erickson]

You do, but you are an out. No, but I'm on your team.

[Joe Budden]

I wish that parents would just support their kids sometimes. If. Even if it's in spite of what they think their kids should be doing.

[Parks]

I think that there's a happy medium there, too.

[Joe Budden]

If your kids. If your kids tell you I ain't really feeling college, like, I would rather do this for a little bit. Like, I mean, my folks.

[Parks]

I was kind of. I wasn't feeling college. But they're like, all right, cool, but do some community college. And I did that. That was the in between. I didn't go off to a big school and do all that. I was like, no, I'm just gonna. I'll sit here and do my bartending, make beats in the attic, all that. But I'll get some degree to keep them happy and cool.

[Erickson]

I think I always say, like, I had. I have my younger brother, not our mother, young brother, and two of my younger cousins who Was like, I don't necessarily want to go to college just because I don't know what I want to go for. And they was like, yo, I know people that go to college and walk out with just a ton of debt. They not even working in that field. I'm scared to do that. Cause they got a little bit more information now. Financial side, tons. So my advice was always, hey, dawg, if you don't know, don't do that. But at least trade school. But wait, did I push everybody to trade school?

[Joe Budden]

If they could.

[Melissa Ford]

That's a good, that's a good option.

[Erickson]

That's like the middle ground.

[Melissa Ford]

Did you say that they're getting scholarships, partial scholarships or anything like that?

[Joe Budden]

They got something going on.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay, well, I mean, like that kind of clears at least part of the debt that they would accumulate. And I can understand from the parents perspective always wanting your kid to have something to fall back on if, you know, if passion and dream takes a little workout. Exactly.

[Parks]

In my case, I did the community college shit, which in the first two years of college, you know this, you went to school, you're doing like kind of general shit anyway. So it didn't matter. By the time I was done with those two years, it was like, okay, cool, I'm just gonna go to music because I do know I want to be in music. So I found a music business school, school, yada, yada, got my bachelor.

[Erickson]

Cool.

[Ish]

Oh, nice.

[Parks]

So I think there's a way that you can do that.

[Joe Budden]

My point to my dad was if I'm. I'm all the way with what you're saying. If a kid wants to go to college, like, don't misconstrue my point. Yeah. Like, just because my views are what my views are. Listen, when my son called me and said, hey, I'm in college and I'm over this shit, Cora's sitting right next to me. I said, stay there, stay there, don't leave. Stick it out, thug it out, try your best, yada, yada yada. And this is when I thought I was getting robbed because of pandemic prices at the colleges. But I told them, stay there. So it's not because of my views. If you want to go to college, go to college. But if you looking at somebody and they clearly have a creative, A more creative way of viewing things, I think that you're shooting that person in the foot by not. By not exploring that.

[Erickson]

So I agree with you. I think it's a conversation.

[Joe Budden]

Right? That's all.

[Erickson]

I think it's a Conversation. If you go to trade school, go to trade again. I own a construction company so I think we especially black kids are not going to trade schools enough and we're missing out on that. Right. Trade school people are making more money than some of these lawyers and doctors make sure. Cool. I'm for that. However, I've also been a business owner for a very long time and I think that some of the stuff that you learn in college, if you go to just be a business major, a finance major, even if you want to go to entrepreneurial route, these things help you on that. Like I'm talking from experience that these things help you on that path. You might not know it, but they will help you.

[Parks]

Absolutely.

[Erickson]

As a parent. Yo, it's a really hard job because you want to be supportive and whatever. Yo. If your kids say yo, I don't want to go, I want to go to be in a Peace Corps in Rwanda, you like yo dog, I gotta support you.

[Joe Budden]

Right.

[Erickson]

I really don't want you to be going over there. But I gotta be supportive.

[Joe Budden]

See, my parent brain, if it were me would say I done watched my kid be locked in a room on a video game for. With headphones on in a gamer chair for the last 13 years. People are making millions of dollars doing that. Cause that's where our conversation led to. Then it let. He's like all right, well paint, paint the picture for me. I said well he can start a business in his own name. And there's streamer kids that are making. If you fail, you can walk away with 60 grand like so.

[Erickson]

Which is more money than most kids making coming straight out of college.

[Joe Budden]

And that's. If you completely. If nothing goes your way, you can, you can walk away with making 50 grand a year.

[Parks]

I wouldn't say that's the. I think that's a little extreme because I think if everything fails, you could just be the kid with one person on your stream and you make zero dollars. Like that's. That's a possibility.

[Joe Budden]

But I think there is a. I'm his brother. So I mean it's a cheat code for sure. I'm gonna go give him the information and tell him exactly what to do and set him up that we always talk about financial literacy.

[Parks]

Right.

[Joe Budden]

And gaining understanding. So if you close minded to the information then you just shut, shut a world off. So you don't even allow the anomaly to be birthed. True. You don't. You, you shut the door in that. So no, I would, I would. I told my dad at the end of it. I was so mad at him. I said, I got him. Don't worry about it. Don't worry. I'm gonna give him the information he needs, and he gonna be good. But if you want to explore that, let him.

[Erickson]

Yeah, he should be allowed to.

[Joe Budden]

But if you're gonna force him away two hours away to college. Listen, listen, man. I told my mom when she sent me away to school, and we'll close this because I'm probably dragging it, but.

[Erickson]

I think this is going. It's a great conversation.

[Ish]

A lot of people could resonate with this.

[Erickson]

Are you crazy?

[Ish]

Up to this day, my father still tells me he was school. I said, man, I'm a grown man.

[Joe Budden]

So now I'm sitting there depressed, doing a whole flashback of. Of my history because I told my mom, yo, don't send me away to school. She sent me away to school, scared of what I would do in a Jersey city school. So I went out there. Where a boarding school. A different structure and environment. I done learned all this, and now I go back to Jersey. You want to put me in a regular high school? That's not gonna work for me, right? You not paying attention that you missed how my mind was working. That wasn't gonna work for me. I was so shocked when I got to Lincoln High School in Jersey city that they was allowing us to go home and wanted us to come back.

[Ish]

I couldn't believe it till my lunchtime or just period.

[Erickson]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I come from a boarding school.

[Ish]

Got it, Got it.

[Joe Budden]

If I go home after I done been around, all the girls done got drunk, had lunchtime. I'm not coming back here tomorrow. But that was me.

[Melissa Ford]

Did you thrive in the boarding school?

[Joe Budden]

What's thrive.

[Parks]

Do well.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Did you do well academically?

[Joe Budden]

No, but by then I wasn't trying to do well academically, but I was. I was bored with school from earlier because I was ahead of wherever they was teaching.

[Erickson]

And that's. That's a lot of. That is where it starts right there.

[Parks]

For sure.

[Joe Budden]

There was.

[Erickson]

There was no mental stimulation for you in school.

[Parks]

They didn't have like, advanced classes or was like some probably racial biases or some.

[Erickson]

Wasn't you offered these.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, that was early. That was.

[Erickson]

But it starts there.

[Joe Budden]

Well, that's.

[Erickson]

We'll check out a school.

[Joe Budden]

That's why the graduation just RS up all of my deep, dark, hidden like inside that I. That I go to bed with. I don't tell nobody else. Stupid.

[Parks]

Aggressive. To the brothers for yeah, congratulations.

[Erickson]

And all the graduates out there, congratulations.

[Joe Budden]

Shout out to everybody graduating this year's class, next year's class. That does look fly. It does. It do look fly. The friend groups. Hey, listen, I didn't graduate, so I'm unsure on this, but they had all types of. On their cap.

[Parks]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

You couldn't do that in the 90s.

[Erickson]

In high school you could.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't really see it.

[Parks]

We did that in my school.

[Joe Budden]

School. But I don't know if that was.

[Erickson]

They going a little crazy.

[Parks]

It's been a thing for a while.

[Erickson]

Depending on what associations you affiliated with, all of that.

[Joe Budden]

True.

[Erickson]

You could put the.

[Parks]

Oh, no, no, no, no.

[Erickson]

People are home. D. Di. But yeah, like, I did my daughter for preschool.

[Parks]

What you put under, I just had.

[Erickson]

She's big on frozen, so I had a bunch of frozen. All the el. I should have had her name. 20, 25.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

Went crazy. But.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. I thought I was about to go to another graduation today. Yeah. Nick just went on and just cried all day because then the cry got to a point where this wasn't working. So then you had. You couldn't hide.

[Erickson]

You had to knead the tissue. Dark shades, man.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't bring shades because I thought I would be cool.

[Parks]

That's why you gotta go back to the undershirt, man.

[Erickson]

That's crazy. I'll cry. Okay, we know. Yeah, we know.

[Joe Budden]

That was crazy.

[Erickson]

That's crazy.

[Joe Budden]

Anyway, no more for me. Graduation. Just horrible.

[Erickson]

Different.

[Joe Budden]

What y' all want to start with, man?

[Erickson]

Young. Oh, yeah. What are you talking about? It's gonna be worse. Way worse.

[Joe Budden]

What?

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah. Water works.

[Erickson]

Yep. It's on.

[Ish]

It's on.

[Erickson]

Dre.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. It's gonna be bad or. I'm telling you.

[Erickson]

It's cool, though.

[Joe Budden]

It's the stuff that you live for, man.

[Erickson]

Indeed. That's it.

[Joe Budden]

Really. That's it. The moments. Anyway.

[Parks]

Well, speaking of life changing things, we're going to talk about the. The marriage.

[Joe Budden]

The.

[Parks]

The Bezos marriage in. In Venice that Mel was telling us is being.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah. Another Joe and Mel fight.

[Melissa Ford]

It was. But. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Why we keep fighting. I got so much love for you today.

[Melissa Ford]

I do, too. But, you know, we sometimes have a difference of opinion, and I think. I think our algorithms might be slightly different.

[Joe Budden]

They are.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I see you on yours and always get a good little chuckle.

[Erickson]

I'm not.

[Joe Budden]

That's what it is.

[Parks]

She throws them right to us in the group chat.

[Joe Budden]

Everybody here does a great job of ignoring Mel in the group chat.

[Parks]

Absolutely. I didn't know Gavin Newsom had a podcast. I was kind of intrigued by that.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, yeah, that was kind of a surprise to me. But again, like you said, it kind of does track.

[Parks]

It tracks.

[Joe Budden]

Absolutely.

[Melissa Ford]

It tracks. So Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez are getting married this weekend. Star studded affair, $50 million wedding. He basically rented Venice.

[Joe Budden]

The city basically about it.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Let's start correcting some of this early because you trying to leave out our fight again.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay, so I'm getting to that. So the residents and citizens of Venice are really upset. And they are. And they're protesting one of the things that. So they've tried to divert where he. All of the things that he had planned, you know, so if you don't know, Venice has a lot of canals. It's basically like built on the water. Yeah, built on the water. So they have threatened to like put like alligators or crocodiles or something like that in the water or something like that. At least fake ones try to create cruise.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, they blew up a little raft with Basil the Gondola blow up doll on it.

[Erickson]

You gonna piss me off.

[Ish]

Yup.

[Joe Budden]

What? That's what I'm saying.

[Erickson]

No, no, no.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

Bezos, leave me alone. I' ma buy your shit.

[Joe Budden]

No, hold up. Cause I ain't fucking with Mel.

[Erickson]

You gonna piss me off.

[Joe Budden]

We said. Or I said. Yo, I want to talk about Jeff Bezos renting out Venice for his wedding. And Mel said, no, he's not.

[Erickson]

They got that motherfucker right out of there.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, they not gonna let him do that. So he had to move and they protested. I don't know what news you've been.

[Erickson]

Reading, but I know I'm not gonna make a move.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I, I listen, I synced it with my own eyes. Jeff Bezos spent 55 to 65 million dollars for.

[Erickson]

This is my city.

[Joe Budden]

So. And the city, except accepted. That's it. That money.

[Ish]

Yes, they did.

[Joe Budden]

And what?

[Parks]

New roads, gondolas for the whole city.

[Joe Budden]

What? Yeah. So now what that means is it's my. When me and my friends are walking down the street.

[Parks]

Well, there's no walking boating down the street.

[Joe Budden]

Whatever we do. No, no, no. It might be.

[Erickson]

I've been in the city, nigga. I might put some roads out here like that. I put a hovercraft on these waters, you get your fucking ass back. Nah, nigga. You know what? She don't even want to be on the road. On the water. She better not pave all this shit right now.

[Joe Budden]

Actually, my shit now.

[Erickson]

You stick your pinky toe in this water, your ass going to jail.

[Joe Budden]

When we, when, when we come down the street. You go in your house and close your windows. No, I don't want you looking. And if I see you, then I'm going in your house now, too. No. Yeah. You find it? Actually, yes.

[Erickson]

It's my house.

[Joe Budden]

I bought all of the houses in your family.

[Erickson]

Yo, who's the captain? I'm the captain.

[Joe Budden]

Now, what the is wrong with y' all the protesters.

[Erickson]

And keep your kids quiet. Yeah, you see, I don't want to. I don't want to hear nothing. If I hear three days.

[Joe Budden]

If I hear a peep out of that house, I'm going to fix y' all real good. Are you crazy?

[Erickson]

60 million for three days. Whew. You crazy.

[Joe Budden]

Gotta go and. And listen. Protest. Sit. People of. People of Venice. He just trying to rent for now. He get hot for now.

[Erickson]

You piss me off.

[Joe Budden]

I'm gonna buy this and send y' all to. What you say, Venus. Yeah.

[Erickson]

Wrong with you.

[Joe Budden]

Actually, you know what? I'm gonna have you assassinated. Like what? Whatever I want to do.

[Erickson]

Think about how. Yo, that's some big dick. Like I'm going just rent the whole city.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah.

[Erickson]

And y' all talk about y don't want no more billionaires. The city accepted.

[Joe Budden]

Damn right. Wait, we talking about what?

[Erickson]

You don't want no billionaires? This is what billionaire is now.

[Ish]

I'm with you.

[Erickson]

Yeah, you. You want your what and where? All right, cool. What where at what resort? I want the city. Oh, all right.

[Joe Budden]

I agree with Mark's concept. I disagree with the number that he cuts it at. Like, I wouldn't. I think you can earn a billion dollars. Yeah, 100 billions. And once you start getting to. But this is.

[Erickson]

You do. When you get to that.

[Parks]

I just think it should be tax appropriate.

[Joe Budden]

Well, yeah, that's the thing. We making jokes, but technically, no one person should not be able to come and rent. Mel is right. If we're being mature.

[Parks]

Or they should, but they should pay their fair share.

[Erickson]

No, no. She not right. No, my. I'm giving this town or this city. I'm the stimulus bump here. Million dollars.

[Joe Budden]

I think cities should have gatekeepers that. That should be able to decline that he shouldn't be able to rent Venice.

[Erickson]

Joe.

[Joe Budden]

If we're being mature. But I'm with y' all.

[Erickson]

No, we being mature.

[Joe Budden]

I'm being mature.

[Erickson]

Hey, dog. I'm giving you y' all new books. Police. New police of vehicles, new hospitals. Clean.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Hey, y' all get back in the house now. Yeah, yeah, get back in the house.

[Erickson]

I am the economy. Yep.

[Joe Budden]

What say. What say you?

[Erickson]

I'm just saying, for 600 a week, 1200 stimmy. These things out here selling at 60 for the three days.

[Melissa Ford]

People in Venice have had a little bit of, you know, difficulty with the tourism industry as it is. Like, it's a very precarious situation in Venice. It's a sinking city, basically, you know? And so what?

[Joe Budden]

Sinking as in I could use that $65 million.

[Melissa Ford]

Sinking as in, like, no amount of money.

[Erickson]

We gonna put some pylons up under this bitch.

[Melissa Ford]

And also, there's no guarantee that the officials that have accepted this money are going to disperse it to the citizenry.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, wait, wait. Hold up a second.

[Ish]

Try to disperse that.

[Melissa Ford]

Disperse it or.

[Joe Budden]

Listen for two seconds. Mel did not disperse.

[Melissa Ford]

How does it benefit?

[Ish]

You know what the Italians. Hold on. Do you know what the Italians did to the world?

[Joe Budden]

They're not dispersing.

[Ish]

We not dispersing this. We used to.

[Joe Budden]

Breaking bread.

[Ish]

We use.

[Joe Budden]

All right, y' all can come back outside.

[Erickson]

We got rid of Bezos, some fresh rolls over there.

[Ish]

Oh, man, you know the Italians.

[Joe Budden]

Listen.

[Ish]

They had you. Sunlight tax. A ground tax.

[Erickson]

Ground hall tax.

[Ish]

They tax the people you dead and we keeping this money.

[Erickson]

Let Jeff basically be arguing about tourism. Tourism is what feeds them cities and be keeping them cities afloat. They could talk all that they want.

[Melissa Ford]

I totally understand that. But also, there is people that. That tourism is sometimes a scourge to a place.

[Ish]

Okay?

[Melissa Ford]

You know, sometimes when tourists come, you can't guarantee that they're going to be respectful of the place that they're visiting, you know, and so if I pay.

[Erickson]

60 million, I'm not going to be respectful. I'm going to tell you right now.

[Joe Budden]

I'm pissing off.

[Erickson]

What is your.

[Ish]

Why are you against him getting married there? Or you. Why you. Why are you taking the people side?

[Melissa Ford]

I mean, I'm not necessarily for or against. I'm just.

[Joe Budden]

Mel ain't with that marriage.

[Ish]

No, I'm just. No, no, no.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm just.

[Ish]

Oh, shit. I didn't think so. Oh, shit. I didn't just say that.

[Melissa Ford]

Do you know the story of Jeff Bezos and Loren Sanchez?

[Parks]

Please tell us.

[Ish]

Fill us in.

[Melissa Ford]

So you know that Jeff Bezos was married to Mackenzie Bezos, who now, you know, they're divorced and whatever else.

[Erickson]

That's the richest woman in the world.

[Melissa Ford]

Yes, right. Exactly. Well, the world, I'm not necessarily sure about one of. One of definitely. Who is like, an amazing philanthropist, and she's giving a lot of her wealth away to various charities and Philanthropic activities. She's a wonderful person. Okay? So.

[Joe Budden]

You need to grow up.

[Melissa Ford]

Mackenzie and Jeff, they had a couple that they were besties with. That was Lauren Sanchez and her husband.

[Parks]

Oh, this is a little wife swap swapping mouth.

[Melissa Ford]

It wasn't a wife swap. It wasn't a wife swap.

[Erickson]

It was Gimme.

[Melissa Ford]

It was a take. Jeff started cheating on mackenzie with Lauren. She found out, they got a divorce. I don't even know where Lauren's husband is anymore. Well, now. Ex husband. And now he's in the fish.

[Ish]

He's in the sea.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, exactly. Now they're together. That's the fucking story. You know who actually did a wife swap was Shania Twain and her husband. They swapped out with their besties.

[Parks]

Gotta be careful of them double dates.

[Erickson]

No, I ain't.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, yeah. So Shania Twain's husband, they so said, I want her.

[Erickson]

Yeah, he can move him.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, well, he got her.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, dog, how much for the life?

[Erickson]

I was just about to say, yo.

[Ish]

Is this a proposal? Yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

I mean, clearly.

[Erickson]

20 million for your wife.

[Joe Budden]

If y' all had Jeff Bezos money. Y' all know y' all be doing ignorant.

[Erickson]

I. I have told y' all this every chance.

[Parks]

I don't know if it would take. Jeff Bezos.

[Erickson]

Don't let me.

[Joe Budden]

I keep telling y' all.

[Erickson]

My God, no.

[Joe Budden]

All right. 2500 on the right. New York Street. You could feel like Bezos for at least 35 minutes before she got to work. Yo, hey, the price drop, if you let it still go to work.

[Erickson]

You got your passport.

[Melissa Ford]

So clearly, if y' all were Lauren Sanchez in this story, and you were married, and Jeff Bezos and his husband and his wife were the besties, you would definitely be giving him the eye. Like, yo, I can drop this fucking zero if you get rid of her. Yes.

[Erickson]

Wait, say you lost me.

[Melissa Ford]

If you're Lauren Sanchez in this situation and you're married, never. You'd stay with your husband?

[Erickson]

I would stay with my significant other.

[Melissa Ford]

Your significant? Yeah. Okay, so he got like, 20 million. Jeff Bezos has 400 million. Okay. Oh, okay. That sounds good. Any who's.

[Joe Budden]

No way Are we. Any who's ing from that. Do you think that they're telling. Do you think that they're fibbing?

[Melissa Ford]

Yes. A thousand percent. You think it's for sale in that scenario? Absolutely. The way you guys talk about, if I was a girl, I would be this guy for.

[Erickson]

I never said that.

[Joe Budden]

Says that proudly, too.

[Erickson]

He said that.

[Joe Budden]

Triple down and triple down in it.

[Melissa Ford]

You have. Okay, so I thought that that was like a collective thought process up here. My bad. Sorry. But yeah, no, actually. Actually, if you were in Lauren's position. Yeah. I think you'd be like, I'm gonna drop this fucking zero, get with a hero.

[Erickson]

Yeah, boy. What if she were the hero, though, huh?

[Melissa Ford]

That's her mentality.

[Erickson]

She dropped her husband and she was the first nigga. The first thing that was a hero to her. He ain't a zero just cause he don't got Bezos money.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay, well, clearly she made a decision.

[Erickson]

True.

[Melissa Ford]

And she felt like her husband was the zero. And she got with.

[Joe Budden]

We don't know what else about this husband. He could have been a monster whooping her ass.

[Erickson]

That Annie could have his own money. They just could have fell out of love.

[Parks]

He might have had another piece somewhere.

[Melissa Ford]

She was like, yeah, yeah, let's create the ideal situation for her.

[Joe Budden]

Get a male.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, let's.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, you know, they love to do that.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, let's create the ideal situation for her to have been cheating on her husband with the bestie.

[Parks]

But you're creating the ideal situation for him being nefarious.

[Erickson]

Him being a mutter.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, listen.

[Ish]

Oh, listen. They got mad. The wedding is going on.

[Joe Budden]

Tow y' all on.

[Ish]

The wedding is going on right now, and that's what it is, okay?

[Joe Budden]

And if you say another word, them people in Venice is going to get catapulted somewhere.

[Erickson]

That is some fly. Y' all say what? We not letting doves off. We letting people off.

[Joe Budden]

I think it's fly.

[Parks]

You got to take all the water up out of there.

[Erickson]

I'm just.

[Parks]

Look at you.

[Joe Budden]

I'm build a dam, get no water.

[Erickson]

I think that's some fly shape.

[Melissa Ford]

Was having like a foam party. Do people still have foam parties? Isn't that like.

[Erickson]

You are. He can do what he want.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay. Same.

[Erickson]

Could have a sauerkraut party if you want. What you're talking about phone parties.

[Joe Budden]

You would think it was fly if you was in.

[Parks]

Yeah. Cuz it would be.

[Joe Budden]

It'd be some nice fob Mel do.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm just saying phone parties.

[Joe Budden]

Phone parties were cool when you were.

[Melissa Ford]

Like, in your 20s.

[Ish]

The parties that you go to around.

[Erickson]

Whose foam it is.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay, all right. Some rich foam. Gotcha. Gotcha.

[Erickson]

If your man Leonardo DiCaprio has in that phone.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay, listen.

[Erickson]

So who's who in that phone?

[Melissa Ford]

This conversation, it's too rich for my blood. I'm gonna shut the. My poor ass is gonna shut the fuck up. I can't even be talking about this stuff. Y' all go on with your phone parties and your, you know, taking over a Venice.

[Ish]

What about pool parties that you like to go to?

[Melissa Ford]

Who told you that? Who you talking to?

[Ish]

Could just see you from the street. Oh, where you going? The pool party where you don't live.

[Erickson]

Crazy, yo.

[Ish]

What?

[Joe Budden]

No. What?

[Melissa Ford]

He's telling on me again.

[Ish]

She's a legend. She just going, you know.

[Erickson]

How did I know that?

[Ish]

Cuz they rat. They rat the Mel at the pool party. Any who's she had the pool party outside You.

[Erickson]

L.

[Melissa Ford]

Get off me.

[Ish]

She don't give a. She was at the pool party.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, is Mel's body her body, her choice? First of all.

[Ish]

First of all, Mel was at her choice.

[Joe Budden]

Whose pool party?

[Ish]

She's right there.

[Joe Budden]

Mel who's pool party?

[Melissa Ford]

I don't know what he's talking about right now. I think he's talking about last summer when I was hanging out at the.

[Erickson]

The pool. But not.

[Joe Budden]

No, he's not.

[Melissa Ford]

That's what he's talking about now.

[Erickson]

He's talking about some new.

[Joe Budden]

I don't have.

[Melissa Ford]

There's no new. I haven't even been to a car yet.

[Erickson]

We don't care. Let Mel live her life.

[Joe Budden]

Nothing new. Then let's get off him.

[Erickson]

All you want.

[Joe Budden]

Get off him.

[Ish]

Let's fall back before they say we harassing you again.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay. Anyways, so we did it, right? Jeff Bezos getting married this weekend.

[Parks]

Congratulations.

[Joe Budden]

And you Venice heathens better shut your traps.

[Erickson]

Venetians.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, I'll get an extension. You better. Jeff Bezos ain't like me leaving the hotel. No running back.

[Erickson]

Yo.

[Joe Budden]

Late checkout.

[Erickson]

Running back, check out.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, you know, and black people don't.

[Ish]

Respect the late checkout.

[Erickson]

Never.

[Joe Budden]

All right. What is the late checkout? Noon. Yeah, I asked too.

[Erickson]

Just so I know I'm not leaving some places.

[Joe Budden]

Some places it's new. So the cleaning people could get it done and check in by 3:00 clock. Yep.

[Melissa Ford]

Mm.

[Joe Budden]

Two is the love. But even if you tell me two, I'm leaving at 3:34, 2:49.

[Erickson]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not leaving at 2:00 clock.

[Erickson]

Yo, that's crazy.

[Joe Budden]

Why black people don't respect the late checkout?

[Erickson]

Cause we ain't getting up that early.

[Melissa Ford]

No, not even that.

[Joe Budden]

We taking. Cause we beautiful. We taking our time. We're putting our lotion on. We putting our good, good scent on. That's the dress code for my birthday party. We're your good scent. That's it.

[Parks]

I've seen Cardi in the Castle.

[Erickson]

Good is relative, my nigga.

[Parks]

Cardi in the castle. Stephane got her to the castle.

[Ish]

He went to the castle for her. Yeah, I saw that.

[Parks]

While we're in extravagant rich.

[Erickson]

See? See, that nigga would have rented Venice if he had it too, nigga.

[Melissa Ford]

That's where she shot her promo, right?

[Parks]

Maybe. I don't know.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, that was where. That was where I saw. That was the thing I saw.

[Erickson]

Where was the castle at?

[Joe Budden]

I don't know.

[Parks]

I just seen a castle.

[Joe Budden]

Castle.

[Melissa Ford]

You can.

[Erickson]

You can rent castles, everybody. Yeah, I've spent the night on it before.

[Melissa Ford]

I mean, sometimes.

[Ish]

Hold up, hold on.

[Erickson]

In Portugal.

[Ish]

These guys, such a beautiful man.

[Erickson]

Do that for real.

[Ish]

We know that.

[Joe Budden]

We just never did it. Yeah, I never. I've been to Portuguese. I can't smell Portuguese.

[Parks]

We're just poor Portuguese.

[Ish]

You stepped in the king's room and like that.

[Erickson]

Yeah, like that.

[Parks]

Of course.

[Erickson]

Oh, of course. Where you thought he was going to sleep at?

[Ish]

Who am he? He probably got busy, right? My ances. My ancestors went crazy.

[Joe Budden]

You took my.

[Ish]

My ancestors went crazy.

[Joe Budden]

Y' all back.

[Ish]

The king of fortune went crazy in this.

[Joe Budden]

I'mma pay now. You took my question. You in the castle?

[Ish]

Of course he did. His mind is crazy.

[Joe Budden]

So you stop blushing at me. Did you in the castle?

[Erickson]

It's like a whole.

[Parks]

I'm burning the castle. I'm in the castle.

[Joe Budden]

I never in the castle.

[Erickson]

I'm a fucking in castle. It's scary, though.

[Ish]

They fixed it up.

[Erickson]

They modernized. It's really a castle.

[Parks]

They had plumbing.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, they modernized it.

[Erickson]

Think about all the shit that potentially went on in this place. That shit is kind of scary also.

[Joe Budden]

So you went to work? Nah, for real. It's just getting busy like this.

[Erickson]

You can't ask your man that question.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, you went to work in there.

[Erickson]

Yo, leave me alone.

[Joe Budden]

My. This. You just said that. All the memories from the old regime of the castle, you'd be scared, like.

[Erickson]

So you had to show out.

[Joe Budden]

So you was nervous.

[Erickson]

You had to show out, though.

[Parks]

Like, were the floors cold?

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah. Oh, you was on medium. Did you have.

[Melissa Ford]

Did you have a butler? Did you have a bed wench? I mean, I feel a bedwench. I figure if we're, like, you know, asking him if he's Refer to his other.

[Erickson]

That way, I'm not hemp and I'm not bezos. I ain't got that, like, money like that.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay.

[Erickson]

This guy is crazy. Did you have a bad w.

[Joe Budden]

Don't do it.

[Ish]

Don't do it. Never.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, man. You just gave the regular, though.

[Ish]

Regular de softy. He used the Mouth.

[Erickson]

That's not my regular.

[Joe Budden]

No, no. At 50 it is. It got to be you bugging. It's soft. I know it's not your record. No, no, no. I'm not doing.

[Erickson]

You had to talk with you.

[Joe Budden]

I'm saying at 50, 50 years old.

[Ish]

Today, some ancient, ancient Viagra. What is this? This is the blood of St. Mary. Two squirts of this. It's you a freak.

[Joe Budden]

Rub this.

[Ish]

Of course you did that, son.

[Erickson]

Idiot. Bro.

[Ish]

Let's lay down. That's you. Let's lay down real quick.

[Erickson]

You should. You should rent one and go pie out of there.

[Ish]

The cats are fire, Joe.

[Erickson]

Scotland or something.

[Ish]

It's amazing.

[Joe Budden]

That's why it's important to establish a long term relationship with your partner. Like in your late 30s, early to mid-40s, so that when you hit that 55, 60 and your dick ain't giving what it used to give, she just is love you.

[Erickson]

She remember what it is.

[Parks]

She just.

[Joe Budden]

She just. Yeah. She just care about you like no one do. You the worst. You're right.

[Melissa Ford]

And she'll tell you it still hits the same.

[Joe Budden]

Thanks. Good luck. Appreciate it.

[Erickson]

Lie to me.

[Joe Budden]

Lie. Lie to me.

[Erickson]

Appreciate it. I ain't going to lie to you about that, Sahara. I'mma tell you that. Oh, I'mma tell you that.

[Ish]

DJ Clue doesn't stop.

[Erickson]

Dry lap.

[Ish]

Yeah, we both lying. What you talking about?

[Joe Budden]

I be trying to off the natural dick. My just be lamping though. I got cold lip. My girl be doing that. My dick is like being around the world. I be like, all right, let me go to the bathroom real quick, baby. Hold up, hold up.

[Erickson]

25 minutes.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, let me start killing time.

[Erickson]

And she bike 25.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, 15. If. If it's a good po one. Now, now you just come back in the bed now you come talk for 15 minutes. Cuz you know you about to quit. I came to bring the pain. Now I go into the brain.

[Ish]

Let's go inside, right?

[Joe Budden]

You know what's about to happen to her. So you talking to her like, all right. Yo, how was your day?

[Erickson]

Wake up, yo.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, you sleeping all right? You watching? You up?

[Erickson]

Nah, look.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, you're not. All right.

[Erickson]

Hot water. Hot water make it dissolve quicker.

[Joe Budden]

Your system. See you need help. I ain't mad at them. That's what all the tea is for.

[Erickson]

Oh.

[Joe Budden]

You crack the code. Oh, man.

[Erickson]

Yo, that is hilarious, son. What's wrong with y' all? Oh, going down.

[Joe Budden]

You talking, girl.

[Erickson]

You see? Wait, man, you see the game? You looking like.

[Ish]

Hurry up.

[Erickson]

You see the game but when they wake up.

[Joe Budden]

Well, I was gonna say that game.

[Erickson]

You'Re a new game.

[Joe Budden]

You can get the natty dick in the morning when the more something about the sunrise and give you the power of Thor in the morning. I'm cool. I'm cool. I can roll over.

[Parks]

Just.

[Joe Budden]

What if it's the night time at 45. Yeah. And the game just went off.

[Parks]

It's not about the dick energy for me. It's the body energy for me at the night time. I'm just exhausted.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

Go hand in hand.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

Yo, that is hilarious.

[Parks]

Yo.

[Ish]

Hey, yo, listen. All that is cool.

[Joe Budden]

You nighttime even sound like a even listening to sound like a task. Then we got to have an argument. All right. No, I know you.

[Ish]

You.

[Joe Budden]

No you. Oh, come on. You stupid. Come on. Thank God I'm in the gym now. Thank God. Thank God that she was getting before. Thank God you rich dictate where you going?

[Erickson]

Oh, I said.

[Ish]

I said don't do that. Don't do that.

[Erickson]

That's fucked up.

[Parks]

Well, if Jeff Bezos can do it.

[Joe Budden]

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[Erickson]

The kid.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, BJ Edgecomb.

[Erickson]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

VJ Edgecombe went three. I think Trey went four, and Ace Bailey went five to the Utah Jazz. I guess that's where most of the talk begins because it said that Utah is one of the. Is one of the teams that he did not work out for. For. So I'll clear out from here and toss it to is. Is. What did you think about it?

[Erickson]

I think that Trey went six. By the way, I'm sorry to cut you off. Trey went six.

[Joe Budden]

All right, Trey went six.

[Erickson]

Who went for con?

[Joe Budden]

Oh, the big. The white boy that could shoot him.

[Erickson]

Duke.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, the white boy that could shoot. I'm sorry. Sorry about that. Go ahead. Sorry about that. Thanks. I freeze.

[Erickson]

I think anytime you grow up playing the sport like kids have been playing these sports since they were 6 and 7 years old, your goal is to make the league. So I think that's a blessing in itself for you to be drafted. I don't give a fuck. If you get drafted in the 10th round and you make the league, that's a blessing. I think that nowadays people have started to take more of their future in their own hands now than they could before. So I think nowadays a little bit of arrogance, a little bit of spoiledness has athletes and I guess a little bit of business savvy have athletes wanting to go to major markets. They got athletes saying, I want to win. I don't want to go over there where they have a history of losing all of those things now come into play. And so I think they try to pretty much determine their own path. I won't say it's right. I won't say it's wrong. I think that you should embrace the blessing of being drafted, period. Right. I just think, again, especially coming from a lot of communities where we come from, yo, you're an instant multi, multi, multi millionaire. You walk into eight figures. So I think that that's a blessing. As far as ACE goals, I think Ace Utah could be a blessing for ACE in disguise. I think sometimes the major markets is a lot of distractions. In the major markets, I think Danny Ainge is a genius, and I think he's already. They had an amazing draft I absolutely loved. They had a good ass.

[Joe Budden]

Draft. Draft with ace and Clayton Jr.

[Erickson]

I think Danny Ainge saw Jayson Tatum at Ace. Like that's what he used to be getting compared to when he was in high school, you know what I'm saying? He liked the next Jayson Tatum and I see it, he gotta work on his handle.

[Joe Budden]

Well, the Mormon should help with that.

[Erickson]

Sarah.

[Joe Budden]

Utah. Sarah.

[Erickson]

But no, I mean you'll be. It is.

[Ish]

I've been out there and you'll be a little bit more focused.

[Erickson]

That's what I'm saying.

[Ish]

You can't be distracted. You won't be distracted.

[Joe Budden]

You'll be announced by 6pm you'll be.

[Ish]

One of the Mormon girls.

[Erickson]

I remember, nigga, they dresses to their.

[Ish]

Knees to their ankles.

[Erickson]

I remember JR Smith was saying when he was in New York, there was so many distractions in New York.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

And when they got to Cleveland, he was like, yo, it was less shit to do in Cleveland. And they used to be bowling as a team. They would be walking through the gym at 9, 10 o' clock at nighttime as a team going over plays and shit in New York. You outside. So again, for an 18 year old, 19 year old kid, sometimes those distractions can be a big thing. So I think Utah's a positive for me.

[Joe Budden]

It's my opinion again, I think Utah had a really good draft. My team, we had the 50th pick and drafted the project. So I was shooting. Shut the up. Ain't nothing really for me to say. What was some of the other stories from this draft? Joe Dumars, that trade that he made where he gave Phoenix an unprotected first round pick from next year, even though the Pelicans are not even projected to make the playoffs, a lot of people were left scratching their heads with that one. The New Jersey Nets using all five of their picks to draft. Oh, I said the New Jersey Nets. God damn it, man. The Brooklyn Nets using all five of their picks to draft essentially the same player or the same position. That was interesting. What else? What else was interesting? I feel like there was one more trade that was kind of interesting that I'm forgetting right now.

[Ish]

So was real. I'm sorry, was, was Ace Bailey was the one that when they called his name he was said, nah, that was.

[Erickson]

His other kid that got drafted by Toronto.

[Ish]

Toronto. Okay, got it.

[Joe Budden]

I saw that. And he wasn't. In his interview he looked like he could not be happier to go to Toronto. So I think on the cameraman that's a little bit you Know that's some trickery. Like, he wasn't saying, fuck because I'm going to Toronto. At where he was drafted, he knows he's going to Toronto.

[Erickson]

He said Toronto was the first place he worked out for. He liked it. He was kind of.

[Ish]

So he was. It was the. Like, a shock. Fuck.

[Joe Budden]

Like, yeah, it was really happening.

[Erickson]

Like, yeah, shit, I'm really here now.

[Ish]

Got it, got it, got it.

[Joe Budden]

Okay. Yeah. Damn it, damn it, damn it. What was the. Oh, homeboy. The big. The big Chinese dude. I'm not. I don't want to be funny. I don't know if he's Japanese.

[Parks]

I think he was Chinese.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, he was Chinese.

[Parks]

I believe. So.

[Joe Budden]

The big Chinese boy that went 15, that was projected to go late second round, wasn't even seated in the. In the lottery pick area. And then he had to come from the bleachers, from the Joe Button seats. And as soon as they showed it, Rich Paul was right in front of him walking around. I said, this motherfucker, man. Listen.

[Erickson]

The agent said he had 85% of the draftees first round.

[Melissa Ford]

Wow. Wow.

[Erickson]

See how political that shit be? Shit is different. No disrespect to them, but that shit be different.

[Ish]

I also saw something about a kid that. From Africa. Did you see that? And he was crying.

[Erickson]

It was a bunch of kids crying, bro.

[Joe Budden]

That was. Yeah, that was homeboy. The first. The first African player drafted. Yada, yada, yada. Yeah, yeah, he was crying. Oh, he. He was crying. And they showed the juxtaposition between him and Ace. But, yeah, those are real tears. I'm not mad at him. Listen, VJ Edgecomb, in one of the more powerful draft speeches I heard was like, yo, my mom. I'm amazed at how she used to feed us. We lived off a generator for seven years. I didn't have electricity. Like, what? Wow. Like, how do you not feel? How do you not feel? These stories.

[Erickson]

The tall kid from that went to Georgetown, he broke down, started crying for his mom. Like, that shit is different.

[Joe Budden]

That's how I felt at the graduation.

[Erickson]

I know.

[Joe Budden]

I believe, like, watching families cheer for their kid and they going up there getting all of the little. There's a rope for this award. There's a rope for this award. Then there's a. They just. Some of them kids. Some of them kids, where they go, John J. Lord, universe, like, bro, like, how do you not crying all day? I like. Like that especially.

[Erickson]

And. And he was in a private school.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

So imagine when you start seeing some of the kids in the Public schools that really had shitty upbringings. That's why I kind of did this shit. Not even patting myself on the back, but did shit with the prom shit. Like a lot of these kids wouldn't have went to the prom, My nigga.

[Melissa Ford]

Donating money.

[Erickson]

They don't have it. Yeah, they just don't have it. So a kid that might be coming from a fucked up circumstance, like getting a full ride to Johns Hopkins or you know what I mean, or whatever school, I'm just making up some shit. But getting a full ride to Brown or some schools that. That's cost more than your mother made for the last five years. You got a full ride.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Some of these kids are gonna change their family's lineage forever.

[Erickson]

Yeah, it be people up there. Yo, I'm a first generation college graduate, shit like that. College graduate or attendee? Attendee. Yeah, you're right. Attendee. Yeah. That shit is real and it's powerful.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah. No, for real. Where y' all wanna go? Where y' all wanna go? Where y' all wanna go?

[Erickson]

Well, you talked NBA draft. You wanna talk about Dylan Brooks and his situation? What's going on?

[Joe Budden]

What's going on?

[Erickson]

Him and his baby mom going at him.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

He's filed restraining order. Restraining order.

[Joe Budden]

And Dylan Brooks is a guard on the now Phoenix Suns. Right. He's down in the Rocket.

[Erickson]

Just got traded this week.

[Joe Budden]

All right, so he's on the Suns.

[Erickson]

He's on the Suns. So he had a restraining order against his baby mom from November of last year, set to expire at the end of this month.

[Joe Budden]

His baby mom is the one that him and Drake was beefing about.

[Erickson]

That's new to me. Yeah, that's news to me. I didn't know that.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't know that y' all didn't.

[Erickson]

Know what that Drake was beefing over.

[Joe Budden]

Anytime y' all don't know something, it make me seem like a way messier bitch than I am. And I am a messy bitch. But yeah, they. They. And I don't know this tea, but.

[Melissa Ford]

Not you, but do you know what she looked like?

[Joe Budden]

This is real, T. Actually, there was a. There was something going around where they was pulling all the lyrics from the. From that damn Drake album that was about her and dissing him.

[Erickson]

I know that Drake was a different girl.

[Joe Budden]

Okay? Different girl. Got it good.

[Erickson]

This a different girl. Got it.

[Joe Budden]

Well, yeah, he.

[Erickson]

He put out a bunch of text messages.

[Joe Budden]

So the finger in the mailbox thing is a coincidence because in the Dylan Brooks readings, he filed a restraining order saying hey, she threatened to cut my fingers off and have a mailed to my family. And that is a Drake lyric also. That could totally be a coincidence. I don't know. I'm taking your word that it's not the girl. I don't know the girl. I didn't know about the girl.

[Erickson]

I mean, if that.

[Joe Budden]

But they have been beefing over some girl.

[Erickson]

That makes a lot of sense then. Because in her message she tells him, I will have your fingers cut off and you'll never play basketball again.

[Melissa Ford]

And then she also made a comment about I see why people are racist.

[Erickson]

I see why she called him a nigga in one of them.

[Joe Budden]

What? Allegedly.

[Erickson]

Well, yeah, allegedly.

[Joe Budden]

Allegedly.

[Erickson]

We don't know because you know how.

[Joe Budden]

Screenshots get heavy accusations.

[Erickson]

Yes, yes, you are correct.

[Joe Budden]

If you say to somebody, I understand if you're white and you say to a black person, I understand how people could be racist. You're racist.

[Erickson]

Yeah, as fuck. She's saying she's racist.

[Joe Budden]

That person is saying, I don't think they know that. That's what they saying.

[Erickson]

No, I think they know. They know. I think they know exactly what they're saying.

[Joe Budden]

I get it.

[Erickson]

Fuck you talking about? How could you not know? You basically saying, I see why people racist, meaning that you black motherfuckers be on some bullshit or y' all less than, or y' all are inferior or a bunch of other things that you can assume that they mean. To me, that statement says everything that. That they say about y' all is true. Yeah, or anything that any negative things about y' all is true. You're proving it. You talking about.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, no, I'm skipping the psychology part because some of these like racist white girls. And that's a separate conversation.

[Erickson]

But it is, it is.

[Melissa Ford]

On another note, they. I just saw a post about a black author writes a best selling children's book for black boys about the dangers of trusting snow bunnies.

[Ish]

Hey, what?

[Melissa Ford]

It's called Stay Away from Sneaky Snow Bunnies by J.

[Erickson]

Look, somebody, I'm clapping up for that one.

[Melissa Ford]

Personally, I would actually like to read this just to, you know, for context.

[Ish]

But wouldn't that disrespect your snow bunny side?

[Melissa Ford]

You know?

[Ish]

Listen, are you throwing it away? Are you fully black?

[Melissa Ford]

You know, don't ask me that. That's entrapment. It is you that is entrapment.

[Ish]

Like, you had checked this before about how you.

[Melissa Ford]

I apologize like a. Okay. Because I will be reminded every step of the way about the one drop rule. And did you go through that as.

[Ish]

A child, did you go through. Did you. Did you suffer from that? And I know no. Okay.

[Melissa Ford]

No. Simple answer is no. In Canada, it's. It's just very. It's very different than. Well, I will say in Toronto. That was not my experience. The experience that I've heard from biracial children out here.

[Ish]

Gotcha. Okay.

[Melissa Ford]

Where they're like, what are you? Which side do you choose? It wasn't like that there. So, anywho, thank you all for that. Didn't really want to.

[Ish]

Why you gotta. Don't thank us, boy.

[Joe Budden]

Why don't thank us. That was informative, and I appreciate that. And it was vulnerable.

[Parks]

It was.

[Ish]

It was.

[Joe Budden]

Let's get right to T. Pain versus Drake.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

As soon as I find my little.

[Ish]

Ah, wisdom ass, yo.

[Erickson]

What?

[Ish]

I don't know. He thought he some crazy.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, that was crazy. That was nice. Okay. Got my little wire here.

[Erickson]

He got a charger in his ass.

[Joe Budden]

T. Pain. Oh, Oops. All right, T. Pain versus Drake. Here we go.

[Erickson]

Drake.

[Joe Budden]

And here's the crazy thing. One thing I learned from Drake, but one thing he hasn't followed his own words. Drake said, I want to be. Be one of them people that gracefully.

[Corey]

Bow out and not get kicked out.

[Erickson]

I have ever since said, thank y.

[Joe Budden]

I appreciate y' all. I'll see y' all. I'll see y' all when I drop.

[Ish]

Don't worry about it.

[Joe Budden]

I'll just drop something. Let me know if you heard it.

[Corey]

Drake is like, no, listen. Okay, I got another one.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, check this out. Check this out. Y' all didn't like that one? Okay, real quick, just one more. Let me try one more.

[Erickson]

And then he's the person. Person that he said, you know, he.

[Joe Budden]

Didn'T want to be. And I learned that from him.

[Erickson]

Like, when he said that I want.

[Joe Budden]

To gracefully bow out and not get.

[Corey]

Kicked out, I was like, you know what?

[Joe Budden]

I'm out. This. I'm not trying to impress y' all. Y' all don't give a about live or die. Why the would I keep trying to impress y' all? I'm out. I'm done. I. I did everything that I was trying to do. I changed the game.

[Erickson]

I made a sound.

[Joe Budden]

What else? What else? You literally can't. You.

[Erickson]

It's only.

[Ish]

Even if you make a hit today, it's.

[Joe Budden]

It won't even. That's just normal. Yes, it's just normal. It's like, yeah, that's okay. Well, that's what T. Pain had to say.

[Melissa Ford]

And Drake responded with a Tweet, right?

[Parks]

Instagram comment, I believe.

[Ish]

Instagram comment with a tweet.

[Parks]

He was on Facebook.

[Melissa Ford]

I thought it was a tweet read.

[Joe Budden]

Let's hear. Let's hear it. Drake said what Drake said.

[Erickson]

This guy always had resentment for me. You can hear it every time he speaks on my name.

[Melissa Ford]

I don't know if I hear resentment there.

[Joe Budden]

Well, it could be.

[Erickson]

If he's saying, like every time this dude say my name is something negative, he could just have a thing against me and he's never gonna speak positive of me. Basically, take whatever he say with a grain of salt because it's coming from a place of resentment.

[Joe Budden]

Before we get to the resentment part, what did you guys think of T Pain's assertion?

[Erickson]

I disagree. I think that he got kicked out. If he would have just left after getting your ass whipped by Kendrick, then you get kicked out. You didn't leave under your own terms. You didn't leave under your own. You know what I'm saying? I think that he's scratching and clawing to get back into an industry that he want to put some more music out and redeem himself. So I think the way he going about it is what he gotta do. And especially if you're not getting no push from the label. Cause a couple of them songs that he put out wasn't that bad. We came in here and played like two of them that weren't that bad. That if he would've been getting his normal Drake buzz and his normal Drake push, they might've went, you know what I'm saying? I think now he's scratching and clawing to get back into a mainstream.

[Parks]

I mean, he's mainstream right now. Nokia is a hit.

[Erickson]

I said fate. Oh, that's.

[Parks]

Nokia is a hit.

[Ish]

It is.

[Parks]

You're not gonna be outside and not hear Nokia.

[Erickson]

It's a hit just by. It's a hit. But like, I now listen to the radio. I never used to. But now I just want to hear what's going. Cause you know, we know how radio works. So now I'm paying more attention to that. Nokia is a hit. Yeah, it's undeniable that I like the song, but I get it. But I still. I still don't think he's being looked at like Drake. I think he needs a couple more, you know what I'm saying? Slaps to get his umph back. Personally, even prior to the Kendrick, you know, I came in here, I didn't like his previous projects. I didn't. I thought he was kind of in A slump anyway. But as far as the leave without being kicked out, shit, he don't ever have to leave. I don't even like that argument.

[Melissa Ford]

We came in here and talked about the fact that it seemed like he needed. He needed to take a break. He needed to take a self imposed kind of hiatus, which he wasn't doing. And then we discussed, you know, what the label, what responsibilities he might still have with the label, which is why he's not taking a break. But before the beef even started, everybody was. We were kind of like in consensus up here that he should take. And I think that that's.

[Joe Budden]

I wasn't with that.

[Melissa Ford]

I think that that's what he's talking about here. Not a. Not a permanent leave. Just like there was a point in.

[Erickson]

Which you respectfully to T Pain, you've never made it to the level where Drake is. A lot comes with that. And sometimes those who hit that level want to stay there. And anybody else know, once you take a break, somebody else take your spot. So that's why I looked at Drake's discography from 0708. He ain't went maybe 9 months, 10 months without dropping something. I'm talking about a project, whether it be a mixtape album. He don't go too long without a drop every year. It may not all be albums, but he's been very, very, very continuous dropping music, dropping music, dropping music. And that's what consistent. Excuse me. That's what helped him get that run and stay there. So to him it's like, yo, I want to be be number one on all the charts. I want to break all the records. I don't care about what y' all. If y' all think the music ain't the best music quality in the world. I want to stay at number one and outrun everybody. And to do that I have to be current because they don't give a about what you did last last month.

[Joe Budden]

Your graceful, graceful exit. Graceful exit. Never said I was exiting with all of the people I came with and all the people I acquired along the way. I get it that there are, let's call it 25% of people that view Drake differently out after that battle, even if you want to up that percentage to 35, let's call it 65. 35, 35 people that may view Drake differently. If Drake loses 40% of the who Drake was then that's still Drake. And you still got to deal with him. He's still gonna sell records.

[Parks]

I don't think the number's that high.

[Erickson]

By the way, I don't think so either. I think they fickle.

[Parks]

Yeah. In terms of actual, like, I'm gonna listen to or purchase or go to a show or whatever. I don't think that that probably impacts.

[Erickson]

I don't think he budgets for him, really.

[Joe Budden]

No. He's 100. Seen differently, for sure.

[Parks]

People perception might be different.

[Joe Budden]

Perception is different on him.

[Erickson]

That's because.

[Joe Budden]

But he's still him.

[Erickson]

He hasn't dropped that Drake hit when.

[Joe Budden]

He drops the Drake hit. Perception was. Damage was done. I don't want to get back into last year. Damage was done. I agree with that.

[Erickson]

Significant damage.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Yeah. With that said, he's still Drake. He's still gonna sell records. He's still gonna be number one. Niggas are still gonna listen. He's still gonna tour. He's still gonna create his own path. Because like I said, ain't nobody been.

[Erickson]

Nobody did this.

[Joe Budden]

Nobody's been at this level. On the flip side of that, niggas that hate you are gonna hate you, and there's nothing you can do about that. So if that's T Pain, if that's me, if that's whoever it is, and that impacts their commentary, then I don't want to hear Drake respond every time he thinks somebody is saying something out of shade. If you want to do it, cool. But no, he should be. He should be on a mission right now. And this is coming from. I think the 21 album is fire. I think that the party album is fire. Like I call him on a little lightweight run. It ain't the Drake run that we know it to be. Yes. It ain't the Drake run we know it to be because he doing all his playboy cardio. All this other. It's just this. He's in the. Listen, let that people.

[Erickson]

I think he fighting to have something stick to the wall.

[Joe Budden]

If nothing sticks to the wall, he's still Drake, and you got to deal with him.

[Erickson]

I don't think he thinks that.

[Joe Budden]

Well, that's different.

[Erickson]

Get what I'm saying?

[Joe Budden]

Well, that's different.

[Erickson]

I think he wanted come reclaim his. Reclaim his spot, and I'm not mad at that. I don't think if that's how he feels internally, then who the is T. Pain to tell him ride off into the sunset?

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

I don't know if creators, creatives, or.

[Parks]

Musicians specifically can have to ever feel like they need to retire. They rarely don't. You know what I mean?

[Erickson]

So we. We got rumors of Jay Z having an album, Right.

[Joe Budden]

But there's something to be said for how you retire. A Kobe retirement is still a Kobe retirement, and it's reserved for the greats.

[Parks]

And Drake, we're talking about.

[Erickson]

Yeah, we talk. Father Tom plays a part in the Kobe retirement, but how you're Father Tom don't play a part in Drake retiring but don't have to retire. No, I think you're talking about the perception of the retirement. Yeah, yeah, I think he's talking about that. So if Drake sailed off into the sunset on his own terms, he can give you a one album every four or five years. Right. By all intents and purposes, he's retired. Right. He just come out.

[Joe Budden]

That would be output.

[Erickson]

That would be retirement.

[Joe Budden]

But he's very much active. Yeah, yeah.

[Erickson]

That's the thing. He's still out here.

[Joe Budden]

He's nowhere near retirement from what it seems, if I'm just reading the tea leaves. And when he decides to retire, there will be the parade down 34th Street, I think.

[Erickson]

So.

[Joe Budden]

It ain't many rappers active right now that's getting a parade. I know all of y' all think that your don't stink. All of y' all ain't gonna get a farewell. It's like Draymond told Paul Pierce, you ain't Kobe.

[Erickson]

A lot of times, most of the. Not most. A lot of rappers are the last one to find out that they retired.

[Joe Budden]

Last season, that game in Boston. Boston and Golden State at the free throw line, Draymond was on the bench saying, you ain't Kobe Wayne. We ain't jacking this whole retirement. You're not getting that from us. So now I got this clip from when T. Pain did. Did humans with me, and he said this. I think this is around the time Scorpion drops. I'll tell you what I couldn't do. I couldn't listen to side B on Scorpion with you. Couldn't do it. Well, yes. We're too romantic. Couldn't do it. Not even. That would be in the romantic part. I couldn't argue about side B with you. It would just be too much. We argued about size B. Oh, we would argue so much about savvy. Because first of all, half of it's me. Just get that out the way. Half who is what? Me. So I get that. I love you. And that was what, 2018? I don't remember when it was, but it was a while ago. So, I mean, clearly there may be some truth to what Drake is saying.

[Parks]

True.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

I never really peeped at T Pain and Drake Beef over the years, but.

[Joe Budden]

Why would he be why would Drake be surprised that he's resented? True, you're resented, but maybe him doing.

[Erickson]

That, he not surprised. I'm letting y' all know. Don't pay no sense to what this nigga's saying because he has resentment. A lot of people might not know that. So they might just hear T. Pain and say, oh, T. Pain is saying this.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

But Drake got to come out and say, yo, he's bitter.

[Joe Budden]

I get that. But that makes it sound like the resentment negates the sentiment. And that's a. That's. That's good. That's.

[Erickson]

To a lot of folks.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. But it also can't. And framing it one way makes it look like. Because there's resentment, there's no truth to anything that this person ever has to say.

[Erickson]

Or it could be like, yo, when it come to me, he's gonna say the bullshit just because he's biased. That's true. It's a very big bias. Let me let y' all know ahead of time, when you hear him speak on me, take it with a grain of salt. Cause he on my. He's on my.

[Joe Budden]

I feel that. Let's get somewhere else. If you are T Pain, with all that you've contributed to music, and you hear Drake disc two of Scorpion or anything that may be T Pain esque to him, how do you feel? Are you angry? Are you mad? Do you. Does that. Do you harbor resentment?

[Melissa Ford]

Are you.

[Joe Budden]

It depends on what my thing with T Pain is. Yo, once you let it go, it ain't yours no more. Once you put the album out, it's not yours. Their art belongs to other people. You can't be mad at how your art inspires the world.

[Melissa Ford]

So are you. In the interview, did you get the feeling that his resentment or whatever, however we're gonna say it, is based on a lack of homage being paid to him?

[Joe Budden]

I didn't recognize that there was resentment until this line of, hey, I. I listen to this to a Scorpion, and I hear me, but T. Pain is such a goat to me. Yeah, that.

[Parks]

You said that for a lot of people's music.

[Joe Budden]

That. That. That don't. That don't say beef to me. You are a goat, and you inspired many people and is jacking some of that.

[Melissa Ford]

So in hindsight, I looked at this. In hindsight, though, what?

[Joe Budden]

That's the one with Jada, right?

[Erickson]

Yeah. I'm looking at what's T. Pain, Jaden.

[Joe Budden]

If I hear jaded and I'm T Pain, I'm tight.

[Erickson]

I'm not.

[Joe Budden]

I am. And Read. Read the track list. I'll tell you what's T Pain.

[Erickson]

All right. Peak. Summer Games. Jaded. Nice. For what? Finesse. Ratchet. Happy birthday.

[Joe Budden]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Summer Games. I think. Hold up. There's another R B record on it. That's T Pain. Summer.

[Erickson]

Out of. Out of. Well, out of 13 records up here.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, I don't think this is it. This ain't it. If I'm T Pain, I don't pay that no money. If I hear jaded and I'm T Pain, I feel away.

[Erickson]

I don't.

[Ish]

But Jada said.

[Erickson]

But if it's two or three out of 13. That's what I'm saying. Blue tint in my feelings don't matter to me After Dark Final Fantasy March 14 now, if I have resentment and I'm looking for a reason, I might.

[Joe Budden]

Say that if I'm T Pain, I got a problem. When Shut it down came out with dream.

[Erickson]

That's different. That's that I could get that. I understand.

[Joe Budden]

But if you understand that, then we don't have to focus on whether T Pain got the album wrong. We've highlighted where T Pain could build resentment. I'm hearing somebody sound like a little.

[Erickson]

Bit more than that.

[Joe Budden]

Take a look. Well, maybe is. I ain't spoke to Pain about it, and I'm not. I'm not repping for either side. I don't have a horse in this.

[Erickson]

Me neither. Me neither. I'm just.

[Joe Budden]

I respect both of them, and they. And they both goats to me.

[Erickson]

This sound a little bit more than.

[Joe Budden]

Just like you fuck with T Pain business. T. Pain married?

[Erickson]

No, no, no, no, no. I wasn't even saying that. But a lot of times somebody come in, get hot, you hear you, you know, you want to work with them or something. Drake. I don't know of any Drake T Pain records.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay.

[Erickson]

I might not have did that with you. Nah, I'm cool. T Pain ain't been popping like that in a minute. And now I feel away.

[Joe Budden]

T Pain is also extremely close with Lil Wayne. So while you don't have T Pain and Drake record, you have a bunch of T Pain and Wayne records.

[Erickson]

Hold on. Whole project.

[Ish]

Can't believe it.

[Joe Budden]

Leads back to my theory that I ain't saying yet that I've already said I've said it. Mad why people don't. But it's. I'm right, right?

[Erickson]

But even right. But not back then. You think back then, too?

[Joe Budden]

Yes. Yes.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm. I don't know.

[Joe Budden]

Long time. I think the second homeboy Stepped in them like, yo, what. Listen, I'm me. I don't know what this contract say. Give me the. About it. I'm not with y' all.

[Erickson]

It was up.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I'm out of here. I don't give a. About what you're talking about.

[Ish]

They said Drake, allegedly. I read something online. Drake was supposed to send a verse for one of T. Pain songs, and T. Pain had held the his album up waiting for Drake, and Drake never sent it.

[Erickson]

Now, see that I would believe somebody to have some resentment over, because again, and especially depending on when that album was coming, a Drake verse would have done a lot for your album.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, yeah.

[Erickson]

So I held my album up. You didn't send the verse.

[Joe Budden]

So if that's true, then you know where my resentment come from.

[Melissa Ford]

Then that would be.

[Joe Budden]

So why you on the Internet acting like you shocked at my resentment?

[Erickson]

He not acting like he's shocked.

[Ish]

No, he just said.

[Erickson]

I'm just saying. Telling y' all.

[Melissa Ford]

He's also burying the reason why, which would lead people to be like, yeah, I'd be resentful, too.

[Erickson]

Not me. No. Yo, dog, if you, you and you saying you, you and you this creative dope ass and you wanted to go, you don't need me. Go do what you doing without me. That's not true. And in hindsight, I'm happy I ain't send you that used.

[Joe Budden]

All of. That's great. You have to say that.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

If you promise somebody or. Or. Or. Or on the verbal tip, say you got a verse for me. I'm sending it to you. You don't have it yet. And the other person says, okay, I'm holding my album waiting.

[Erickson]

Hey, Joe, you had it. You added. Come on, now we talking music industry.

[Joe Budden]

Well, no, he just read this.

[Erickson]

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. He's saying, supposedly, if this true, I don't know. And if you say, yo, dawg, I'm gonna hold up my album till you send me the verse. That's one thing T. Pain saying, yo, I held up my album cause I thought he had a verse coming. Is a totally different. How many people you said, I got a verse. You got a verse coming. And last episode, you told bad niggas y' all got a verse coming your way. And you never sent. Don't do that. You said that. That's a part of y' all industry games that y' all play.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, it happens. And I say it a lot because it's a funny joke. I mean, it happened. Yeah. When you're dealing Artist to artist with two people that's popping. And. And it's the level of one of them being able to tell you I'm holding my album. That's very different from you just telling.

[Erickson]

You threw something in there, too. Again, I'm not trying to be disrespectful. You did throw something. You threw something in there. You said two of them popping. No, and no. You and you said, yo, one of them told them. I'm not saying. I never said T was not popping.

[Joe Budden]

I love T. Pain's T. Pain at all times. I agree. He may not be Drake, but he's T. Pain.

[Erickson]

True, you just said we both popping. But no, you said, no, we not.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't say hot. I didn't say hot.

[Erickson]

We not popping.

[Joe Budden]

When does it. I can't.

[Erickson]

I'm not doing what I. What you said that I. You said that. He told him, yo, I'm holding up my album for you. He might not have told me, yo, I'm holding up my album. That changes the thing.

[Joe Budden]

Let's not do some answer. If he didn't tell him that, I could say, still see why T Pain would have a resentment. See, I don't play none of that. No mine. See, freeze. What you talking about is when me and. And. And homeboy talked in starlets and he promised me a verse, I wasn't popping at all. So when the verse never came, the verses don't come. And everybody going about their business. If somebody is looking at that differently, I can see how they would look at him differently is all I'm saying.

[Ish]

Okay, here go. I found a tweet from 2011. I know y' all waiting on the album, but the last thing I need is a verse from Drake and the album is complete. T. Pain wrote that one. 30:11 now.

[Erickson]

Now I'm not sending the verse 2000 like this. Don't.

[Joe Budden]

What.

[Ish]

What was Drake's.

[Erickson]

And it's gonna make me sound like I'm standing for homeboy. Like, y' all act like y' all don't understand how the music business go. Like, dog, I might not with you like that. And I might have said that I don't know know what their relationship is like. What I'm saying is, dog, even you.

[Parks]

Tweeting that ish different Twitter back in that time.

[Ish]

What I'm saying what Drake was in. I'm sorry, what Drake was. Did we have in 2011?

[Joe Budden]

Drake is Drake in 2011.

[Erickson]

Exactly. And T. Pai in 2011. He was on the way. I'm looking at the records that came out in 2011, just the features. Not even him. Because T Pain's album run. The one that. The ones that we talk about that stopped in 08. Yeah, it was about that.

[Joe Budden]

I don't understand what I said.

[Erickson]

I'm saying that that whole T Pain wasn't T pain in 11. Not that T Pain that everybody cared to. Oh, he's hot as fish grease. He wasn't that and Drake was.

[Joe Budden]

My argument is not T Pain was hot as fish grease. My argument is T Pain is.

[Erickson]

I'm still T Pain.

[Joe Budden]

I understand talking about his relevance and his. What records. You doing all that. I'm not. I'm not doing that. I'm saying because of what has already. Already been done. T Pain is T Pain. That's it.

[Erickson]

I get that.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not comparing him to Drake, nor am I saying that that Drake is right or wrong in this. I'm only saying I see T Pain's resentment. Okay. I'm not saying that Drake is wrong for nothing. He did.

[Erickson]

Okay. Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

I see.

[Joe Budden]

That ain't what I'm doing.

[Erickson]

I see the resentment.

[Joe Budden]

That's all I was doing.

[Erickson]

I see the resentment.

[Joe Budden]

That's all I was doing. I don't have. I don't have a right or wrong.

[Erickson]

Definitely. I see the resentment.

[Joe Budden]

Niggas, again. I see that. I see you not getting embarrassed.

[Erickson]

Yeah, n. I'm.

[Joe Budden]

I get what y' all was trying to tell me. I get that. I get that.

[Parks]

No.

[Erickson]

Cause I. I don't think three years is a big deal. I think T Pain music.

[Joe Budden]

Three years is music. Lifetime at that time, it was. Today it ain't.

[Erickson]

T Pain was still t pain in 2011. But what I'm saying is this. Now I don't send you a verse. Now you saying my album is you. The second part of my album is you. You saying all of these negative things about me in the press. I'm happy I ain't sending your ass a verse. Yep. So I'm happy I ain't seen you a verse.

[Joe Budden]

We deserve a Drake T. F song.

[Parks]

We did.

[Erickson]

We did. Especially just as. As fans. Absolutely. As fans.

[Parks]

I take that today, no disrespect, but we got Bob on Up Down. That could have been Drake, you know.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, with all due respect, no disrespect.

[Erickson]

I'm just gonna be disrespectful. N. I ain't trying to be disrespectful to nobody either. But I. Again, we see this happen all the time. All the time. And we see Some artists hold it as.

[Joe Budden]

And.

[Erickson]

And it turns into a resentment. Other ones be like, all right, that nigga, I'm gonna go do what I do. Yeah, I'm gonna go do what I do, and then I'm gonna get so hot that he might want to come jump on my.

[Joe Budden]

I can see Drake having told that. I'll give you a verse line to almost everybody in the business. Yes.

[Melissa Ford]

And so it was just lip service.

[Erickson]

Times 10. Yeah, times 10. Everybody.

[Parks]

Everyone does that, though.

[Joe Budden]

So from what I hear, everybody ain't him.

[Parks]

True.

[Joe Budden]

When. When someone of that magnitude says it, you change your plans.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, that's just like them.

[Erickson]

Why did he do a pod with him? True. You get what I'm saying now? Now that's like to now have a resentment because, oh, he didn't do. Yo, the said he was gonna come.

[Joe Budden]

Sit with me, but he ain't come sit with me.

[Erickson]

Kevin Hart told Monique. Monique. Monique ran and told them. Told them. Drake said that people y' all got to. Kevin Hart being in my next movie. So, yeah, get that budget right ready.

[Joe Budden]

But at one point, he tried to do a pod with people. I'm just not a pod. But at one of them. One of them album cycles, he was trying something where he was inviting all the media people to come to him. And then you get your allotted amount of time.

[Erickson]

That's why Elliot went up there, if I'm not mistaken, right?

[Joe Budden]

No, it's after.

[Erickson]

No, that was after that.

[Joe Budden]

After that. After that, Ellie was supposed to go. Gilly supposed to go. And we were supposed to go. A bunch of people were supposed to go. But it just never happened. Happen. Oh, okay. And that's him. Him and his people controlling at it again.

[Ish]

And I ain't, you know, with that.

[Joe Budden]

Them control. Yeah, not at all.

[Erickson]

But, yeah, I. I get it.

[Joe Budden]

We as fans deserve a T Pain and Drake record. Some. Some in music is just like a travesty. It's just like. But if we missed the boat, we missed the boat.

[Erickson]

Yeah, that boat going.

[Joe Budden]

No, we missed the boat. It's fine. We got enough Drake and dream for me to be. All right.

[Parks]

Fair.

[Erickson]

I got enough Drake and Drake.

[Joe Budden]

One of y' all want to pull up this Ross record with Pharrell?

[Parks]

Sure.

[Erickson]

No.

[Melissa Ford]

Have you heard it?

[Erickson]

Do we have to?

[Joe Budden]

I clicked on it in the new music section today. That's my new Thursday, Thursday, Friday morning ritual.

[Parks]

I wasn't copped up, you know what I mean?

[Joe Budden]

And I see Ross name and get excited for music and for rapping on a tear with the clips. Immediately, I got excited thinking that this was about to be something.

[Erickson]

I ran to it.

[Parks]

I'm already turned off.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not gonna hold you.

[Erickson]

I was like, where we going?

[Joe Budden]

Some big boys in here. Big boy moves only big boy talk on me.

[Parks]

He found the Pharrell beat from 19 2009. Yeah.

[Ish]

1995.

[Parks]

That's a Trayton snap Trayn for the.

[Joe Budden]

Money everybody won't be want smoke hoes getting high on dope Everybody got rich then they went broke Hoes want to shop then they want to post But I came for the money.

[Erickson]

That try to put out a one dance that sound confused I don't know who I.

[Ish]

Want what I want this I like your style.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't make it that far into the record. Let me hear something. Verse.

[Erickson]

Cut that one off.

[Joe Budden]

Distinguish panel. How we feeling?

[Parks]

If I were Pharrell, I would have said, you. You gotta wait like things are looking good for. For what I got going on.

[Joe Budden]

We're hot right now.

[Erickson]

Might have had this forever.

[Ish]

All the hard I gave to the clips. But hold, I. I got this pack for you.

[Erickson]

This is called nah, nah nah nah. That ain't how that went. Ross said, oh, this bubbling out here. Let me. Let me go throw this record I have for 12 years out. Yeah, this shit is. They could have kept this.

[Joe Budden]

That's true. Because we are music lovers. But I'm gonna try to defend Ross a little bit. If Pharrell's in the studio, he comes with a certain amount of acclaim and respect. If he plays the joint that you're not necessarily feeling and he's in there doing that, Pharrell see, producers sell their beats, of course. So if he in there doing the dance and singing different hooks and it's people in there jamming. I can see you taking that and trying it and putting it out, but you got to put it out. You got to be a musician to. You know, how many didn't like or wasn't in love with the single they got from Pharrell until Pharrell said, this is our single, and then it took off. There's a lot of those stories. So I'm just saying that you have to.

[Erickson]

You have to at least trust a little bit.

[Joe Budden]

And I ain't saying you got to, but you gotta. You gotta at least listen when.

[Erickson]

But let's see. One of Rick Ross's strengths, though. Production is hit or his knack of just picking beats.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

And I'm not even the music. I know that.

[Parks]

Yeah. Ross always got fire production.

[Erickson]

He got an ear yeah, it's for real on this.

[Parks]

It says featuring forever. I did make it part.

[Ish]

He forwarded his final.

[Joe Budden]

No, please, no.

[Parks]

Yeah, I don't want my ears.

[Joe Budden]

Please, no.

[Erickson]

Because even that would be something. If Rail's not. If it's just a beat, he's not on there at all. But you.

[Parks]

It's becoming common to tag a producer as a feature when they're not.

[Erickson]

Especially when it's Pharrell right now.

[Parks]

Correct.

[Erickson]

Just curious that.

[Joe Budden]

No garage. Trying to catch one too. I don't want to hear songs where it sound like somebody's trying to catch one in 2025.

[Erickson]

Yeah, especially somebody that caught a bunch of them that knows how to do it.

[Joe Budden]

The trying to catch one error should be over. It should be done.

[Erickson]

No, no, I disagree with that.

[Joe Budden]

It should be done.

[Erickson]

Especially when ain't one out here right now.

[Joe Budden]

That's because it ain't no rappers. It's three rappers. It's three rappers we about to get a rap song from.

[Erickson]

Are not dropping it.

[Joe Budden]

Ain't a rapper in sight. You talking about. You better be happy somebody put a record out. What's up, Flip?

[Ish]

No, I said, speaking of Ross, did you guys see the French Montana interview? When he got up, when they asked him. When the lady asked him about Drake and Ross.

[Joe Budden]

Riley.

[Ish]

Oh, Riley.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah, that was Riley.

[Ish]

And he got up and walked off.

[Parks]

I didn't see it.

[Joe Budden]

No, I didn't see that. I saw it.

[Erickson]

I saw it.

[Ish]

What did you think about that, Joe?

[Joe Budden]

It looked like he had given a list of things that he didn't want to talk about, and it looked like she asked it anyway, and he boogied. Simple as that.

[Erickson]

I ain't mad at it.

[Joe Budden]

Everybody handled that differently. Some interviewers think they can get it off, and you got to deal with what comes with that. But listen, I'm from the school. I love a podcast walkout. Yeah. You stay. Nothing. Nothing takes us out of here like a podcast walk out.

[Ish]

You do the headphones too?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah. Dramatic. Dramatic. I mean, he was like, yo, I'm double parked outside. I'll be back. But I like when Ross walked off. Off of.

[Erickson]

That's funny.

[Joe Budden]

So 85. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love when he walked out, but he didn't say a word. He just walked out.

[Erickson]

That was funny.

[Joe Budden]

They thought he was coming back.

[Erickson]

That was.

[Ish]

That's my guy.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. I love a good one. I love Ross.

[Erickson]

I. I don't. I don't know.

[Joe Budden]

I. Wait. We. We.

[Parks]

We love you, Ross.

[Joe Budden]

This.

[Parks]

This ain't it.

[Erickson]

Yeah. This one ain't ain't like I don't. I don't doubt his capability.

[Parks]

So n. He back?

[Erickson]

Yeah, I'm cool.

[Joe Budden]

He'll be back.

[Erickson]

He'll be back.

[Melissa Ford]

That sounds like some that would be played in, like, parties in Europe.

[Parks]

It sounds. Yeah. Or it sounds like a soundtrack record or something like that.

[Ish]

Yeah. They driving a car movie. They dropping a car like Monte Carlo.

[Melissa Ford]

Or some like that. Maybe it's for F1. Who knows?

[Joe Budden]

And. And as much as. As much as we love you, Ross, we love music up here too much to even discuss that record any further when things like this is going on.

[Big Jersey]

Slow down with the fake It's a yield sign no doubt hate me but I still gotta hold down It's a hometown that believe in me Whole time I've been going tired of the scene Every showtime let's go outside maybe courtside spot game and try part ways with the game but the score top when it's war time leave everything horizontal Never had my heart healed, man had my heart broke Sound hostile say how so I've been all blanco trying to get on my zone White black made back like eleven Conqueror about the drop number eight they ain't being patient I'm at patron again picking out flavors I'm frustrated for real but I'm not blazing I pay Jason for that look at my glazes look I've been a topic, baby I know the optic bad but look, you're not to worry Hurry and drop already they told me that already don't really rock with anyone I'm already genetic I gotta watch my thoughts, my heart too big look what I done these shots, my influence dick riders I don't bother anybody My iPhone beyond vibrate we'll be silent but I got a mark I call what a dialogue is full.

[Joe Budden]

Of pop.

[Big Jersey]

I'm in shotgun it's funny that they want to throw me off and it does but I won't spiral Y' all think I'm blessed I want this spot, bro Y' all think a bless so y' all prosper I don't.

[Parks]

Want to pro you this is fire.

[Joe Budden]

This is ridiculous. Absolutely fire Saying some this is absolutely amazing. This the W that a lot of people have been waiting to see, right? This is the W that a lot of W fans knew existed. This is the wale that can be put up against any other rapper in the world right here.

[Big Jersey]

A lot of them fans say they get a high street Everybody not playing Run up on the wrong man put you in the sky look, they won't Bust the grape they won't swat a fly don't go towards the bubble that phone father God go toe to toe with that back four for y' all they ask what I do I should have laughed it all they got a bone and picked I know I not spin all you see you gone in the one scrap break it down for y' all we all got a bag it's about the side you want it's like that a bunch of slight I don't like rap but I get it when the tie switch get a life jacket I swimming through the hype look at my stroke natural I feel like Mike th I flow two, two, three like Mike like bro two things less like Dan y' all excuse me had to move back two seconds now move forward Everybody saying y' all cyclone killer.

[Joe Budden]

Multi hype man y' all have one.

[Big Jersey]

Y' all 24 hours and 48 laws that's 72 reasons y' all cutting y' all lost y' all really so fickle y' all really so flawed Y' all really just said ain't checking for long on my leg not the one to sing song just on those number one boy but you slow down with the face yeah gotta stop sign whole time bro the heel sign but they stop trying to heal now we got crash out, cash out real time I be outside number everybody better stop trying when I rhyme they gonna feel that feel like I need healing for real heal now I'mma feel what I feel till this real give back broke saying hostile saying house up I've been all blanco in and out of my zone White black made back like another Z course yeah about to drive number 8 damn patient I'm at patient again picking out.

[Joe Budden]

Flavor Sorry I couldn't find a spot to cut it off.

[Big Jersey]

Look at my good.

[Joe Budden]

For Lauren yeah, this tough wale Great, great cost in that address. This was just. That was a phenomenal display of penmanship.

[Parks]

Yeah, that's not an easy piece of rap over either.

[Joe Budden]

I'm about to say also picking a pocket yeah flowing like that he body that Joe, that was absolutely amazing. If you coming like this on the.

[Erickson]

Album, man, I. I got him at 3 for 3 so far because I with the Blanco record. I liked it.

[Joe Budden]

I love the single.

[Erickson]

The single way to start. And now a freestyle too. You covering all?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Salute.

[Parks]

He just dropped this on YouTube or something, right? It's. It's not. Yeah.

[Erickson]

This is how you gotta come out. That's how you gotta come out, Joe. Can't do that.

[Joe Budden]

Did you see the Leak not coming out. Talk to me about that.

[Ish]

Oh, oh.

[Joe Budden]

Me up.

[Ish]

Oh, you get your off. Yeah, we saw the leak. Slow down with the fake.

[Erickson]

Yeah, see, coming out, the way to start.

[Joe Budden]

You know, this is old school, where you put out a dope single and then put out all this to support. No, support it.

[Big Jersey]

Completely different. I don't know where to stop But I just want to know when it.

[Joe Budden]

Let's go.

[Big Jersey]

I don't know what we are But I just want to know what you are let's go. I don't know where to stop But I just want to show you what.

[Joe Budden]

It is.

[Big Jersey]

I'm about to lower My God. So kill me now unless you want.

[Erickson]

Hey.

[Joe Budden]

You blow my mind.

[Ish]

Hey, party time.

[Joe Budden]

All right, man. What are you showing over here? What's going on?

[Ish]

So I saw. I thought she. No disrespect. I thought she had a rough night with one of her young because she had a bruise here.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, what are you. I'm just saying, this lady's.

[Ish]

Yo, bro.

[Joe Budden]

Private business.

[Ish]

I had to tap her. Yo, you good. Like she got a bruise.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, and she's covering it with this Allen Iverson sleeve she keeps.

[Parks]

No, the answer.

[Melissa Ford]

I am the answer.

[Ish]

She was just showing me. She did some cupping.

[Joe Budden]

You know, the baddies bruise easy, baby.

[Erickson]

Cup and bruises you.

[Ish]

No. Yeah, she told me. Yeah, that should work.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Feel good?

[Ish]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Erickson]

I don't feel good.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, I like pain.

[Joe Budden]

He wasn't asking. He wasn't asking you.

[Ish]

Easy, man. Don't say I like pain.

[Joe Budden]

What'd you say?

[Ish]

I like pain.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, a masochist. That's a masochist.

[Melissa Ford]

A masochist. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Man, you are not a damn masochist.

[Melissa Ford]

I mean, I do.

[Ish]

So you like physical pain, not mental pain?

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Ish]

Because you ain't. If you would like mental pain, you can put out the video now. Sorry.

[Joe Budden]

You're not even supposed to be here. You're supposed to just be docked. And this is this behavior. It's this behavior right here, man.

[Ish]

Mel not with me getting docked, though. She not with me.

[Joe Budden]

You know she don't give a. If I get do. Yeah, you know better.

[Melissa Ford]

She don't give a. Oh, no. It's a thing.

[Ish]

You get Doc, too.

[Melissa Ford]

Yep.

[Joe Budden]

Mel is Philadelphia selfia. Queen's not helping you.

[Ish]

Hey, yo.

[Joe Budden]

See, you know what's trying to get this BMW.

[Ish]

You up surrounding ourselves. My. But we was getting our off last year. Boy paid full getting my content like this. Hey, that came and he up and the up came while being up Looked at the books. Hold up. Come on, let's start doxing these. Y' all want to do this? Nick, I was taking, like, five days off.

[Joe Budden]

I love when some of y' all up here speaking speak as if you speaking for the cast. You ever notice when your cast alienates the message? Do you notice that, though?

[Ish]

I'm just asking if you them are.

[Joe Budden]

Professionals because it's you and Mel. Do y' all notice when the cast alienates y' all? And what you got going on?

[Melissa Ford]

I definitely notice.

[Ish]

I throw you in this ish.

[Joe Budden]

Look at Mel Shavior. I know this.

[Melissa Ford]

I know. I'm ignorant.

[Ish]

He love you too much, Ish. He love you too much. Y' all got a funeral in Nebraska. Yo, Ish got a few. He come up here. Yo, guys, Ish ain't coming today. Called me this morning. Ish get away with it, nigga. I gotta be grandpa.

[Joe Budden]

Ish talk to me like I work for him. But that's why it works. Isha text me at 11:45. I just left the crib, man.

[Erickson]

Yo, that's not true.

[Joe Budden]

Like, oh, all right.

[Ish]

She say that.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, he text me annuity. Traffic crazy today. Like, it's small talk. What I'm gonna do about it? Nothing. Nothing at all.

[Erickson]

And I gotta stop and get something to eat.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I'm hungry, too. You want something? That's his line. You want something? I want you to bring your freeze. What is he talking about?

[Ish]

The asked Joe if he want a bacon naked cheese. He called Joe and say, y' all passing the spot. Joseph.

[Melissa Ford]

No, it's noon.

[Ish]

Yeah, I remember that. You remember that?

[Joe Budden]

That called one thing. He called with nut. Yo, it's a Tuesday, yo, I'm in North Carolina. But wait, why Fourth of July is coming at you? Fireworks. Yeah, I had to get the cheap fireworks, so. But I'll be right. I'll be right back. I'll be right back down there.

[Erickson]

Wholesale joint, you know we gonna flip these.

[Joe Budden]

That broke his foot. Was like, yo, I'm in Cali. Mark. Mark recommended someone. I'm like, I don't give a about, bro. Think I'm way more empathetic than I. Anyway, what else? What else?

[Ish]

Yeah, I had a question for you.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, get your off.

[Ish]

So I wanted to know how you felt about the Bag Fuel interview.

[Melissa Ford]

We gotta give us some context.

[Ish]

The Bag Fuel interview they did with Saigon. Do you look at them differently? Because I know you and I are coe. I'm with it. And I've done interviews where people have talked about others, especially people that I'm close with, but I take a different stance. I'm more aggressive with my stance. But I also do believe in content over everything. I believe in that if you have a product, you put it out. It is what it is. We sign up for this. Everybody has their opinion. But I also feel like if somebody bless somebody or somebody come to the platform and they're bigger than you and they rock with you, they did it for the lookout. You should handle them with a little bit more care. This is how I feel. You know what I mean? So I wanted to ask you, how did you look at that situation? Do you even care about the situation?

[Joe Budden]

No, I don't care about it. I have a. I have a healthy. I have a healthy respect for the game that I signed up for.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Like, I view it like you. The game is the game. So you know what niggas is doing to get their numbers up and like niggas moving a certain way. So I don't have. And y' all know how I feel about words. Like words are empty unless you put power to them. So I don't care about that. I don't care about that. Now am I gonna just pop right back up over there? No, because I gotta distance myself from players that caused me harm, especially after I just left there. But it's not a beef with them. It's not a beef. That's just self preservation for me.

[Ish]

Do you feel like.

[Joe Budden]

So.

[Ish]

You don't feel away, but you just. You're gonna distance. So the distancing yourself is acknowledging that. Yo, what y' all did, I just don't stand for. So you are kind of ridiculing.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, not at all. Again, we have this talk up here a lot. There's too much money out there to be made for me to not understand why people are running their content that they content. You always say that is the way that they run it. Get to it. I don't have no beef with that. I can't just come pop up over here again after I just left, when the second I turn my back. We will allow that type of conversation to go unchecked.

[Ish]

Got it.

[Joe Budden]

But it's no beef. I still support those guys. They got Clue over there. Shout, shout out to Clue. Yeah, yeah, but, yeah, but yeah, I ain't bad no mind. Saigon is slow and has been for a long time too.

[Ish]

Were you shooting at him for real?

[Erickson]

Well, you.

[Joe Budden]

I wasn't shooting at him.

[Ish]

Did I miss something?

[Joe Budden]

No, not at all. But he's off. He's off. In that a little bit. He's off net. No, I just have. I just have a respect for our exchange. So anytime there's a battle going on and I start hearkening back to mine, that one comes up and I feel like I won't. But me and Emmett, there was no B. We pieced shit up. It was fine. So. But he's off. So his interpretation, or whatever that was is his interpretation. I'd rather just not say nothing about it no more now that I see what we on and how we on it. Nigga, it wasn't that serious for me, so I'll chill. Let Bag Feud do the interview, let you go and do whatever you doing, and that's that.

[Parks]

I don't like when you bring Trey into it. That was my only thing. And the battle is whatever. But on the podcast, 20 years later. Not 20 years later. 15 years later, that was a little.

[Joe Budden]

Well, 15 years ago, stuff said and lyrics had had an effect on my child. I'm very, very grateful today that that ain't the case.

[Parks]

Right.

[Joe Budden]

Me and my kid know what. What's going on? We strong as ever. So there's nothing that a Saigon could. No doubt, do about that. Like, I ain't about to come up off my throne and go spray raid on him. That's bad.

[Melissa Ford]

No.

[Joe Budden]

Pour some salt.

[Melissa Ford]

Clever.

[Joe Budden]

A little slug salt on the slug. Evaporate. I ain't gonna do that. Was there anything else in music? The artist dropped Big Jersey. Whole project is heat.

[Parks]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

So now I'm in heaven between the artist. I like that. The artist and K1 keep dropping around the same time. Cause it's a whole vibe. So I'll probably play some of that as a sleeper.

[Erickson]

Who the hell is K1?

[Joe Budden]

K1. You played K1 up here before KWN. That's how you say it's not. Really, it's not. Her fan base checked me. I thought it was known, too. Her fan base checked me. It's Kwan 1 hold you.

[Erickson]

You know, they think they be artistic.

[Joe Budden]

With the scholars, and I thought it was.

[Parks]

I do get confusing sometimes.

[Erickson]

That new Quan. All right. It ain't even K W N. So I would. I would have guessed K something.

[Joe Budden]

The new kids thought it was known.

[Erickson]

Yo. I swear, I thought it was known.

[Joe Budden]

The new kids spell different. If you old, you just got to learn it.

[Erickson]

Learn it from them and all right. That's it. Got it. Thank you.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, but the art shout out to the artist. That project is fire. Of course. Let me see. Did anybody else drop? We did Ross New Teyana Taylor record dropped. That's pretty fire. It's called Escape Room. And it was a quiet tip on the music front.

[Erickson]

It was quiet.

[Joe Budden]

It was on the music front. It was.

[Melissa Ford]

That's the song she performed at bet.

[Parks]

Oh, it's okay.

[Erickson]

Yeah.

[Parks]

I thought that had came out before to BET you. Oh, okay.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, not this song. I don't know what y' all talking about.

[Erickson]

Well, in music, though, what y' all think about Big T using Usher? Daddy's home. If I was Usher, I'll sue that nigga. I thought somebody made that. Sue that nigga. I didn't know that was real. That's funny. Hold up. No, you didn't. Yo, you gotta give it to him.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, he charismatic.

[Melissa Ford]

It came as a result of some. Somebody was on, like, Fox News, and then they were referring to Trump and, you know, saying that, you know, he should be awarded the Nobel Prize because of his, you know, the whole Iran thing. And then he started.

[Erickson]

For what, though?

[Melissa Ford]

I, I, I don't know. Whatever. Whatever the. They think they come up with absolutely nothing. So. Yeah, and so he started making a. He started making a correlation between Trump and Jesus, you know, and so Jesus the father, and then he's like, so.

[Joe Budden]

Trump is here wherever we are.

[Erickson]

I was just asking about Daddy.

[Melissa Ford]

Trump and Daddy.

[Joe Budden]

What is going on?

[Melissa Ford]

This is where it came from. Okay, so this person was just like, you know, referring to Trump, almost like he's Jesus and Jesus the father. So Trump is like our daddy. And then fast forward, Trump comes out to Daddy's home.

[Erickson]

That's where that shit came from.

[Melissa Ford]

Yes.

[Erickson]

Yo, this we fucked, man. Jesus ain't even daddy.

[Joe Budden]

He's from school, though. Jesus is the son.

[Erickson]

Yo, you stupid.

[Melissa Ford]

Look at his face.

[Joe Budden]

Thank you for that.

[Ish]

Thank you.

[Joe Budden]

That was super informative. Don't stop. This new Live. It was. I didn't know about any of that.

[Erickson]

I did not know none of that. I didn't even know that was wrecked up. I made it, but when I saw that.

[Joe Budden]

Thanks, y' all.

[Erickson]

Holy un believable.

[Ish]

She's still going.

[Joe Budden]

She.

[Ish]

She don't read social cues. She still left.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, Mel, do you.

[Ish]

I feel I love when she do that.

[Joe Budden]

She keep going.

[Ish]

When you say sarcastic shit, she just still go like, oh, yeah. So she did that like seven times.

[Erickson]

Letting y' all know I'm putting this.

[Joe Budden]

Out on a scale. On a scale of 1 to 10. And I'm off male. Cause we're too much. Not too much on male, neither. Mind y' all fucking business out here. On a scale of 1 to 10, how good do you think you are reading social cues?

[Melissa Ford]

I'm excellent. I know when you guys are making fun of me. I know when the sarcasm starts. Okay, I was just wrapping it up.

[Erickson]

Sarcasm, but him saying, y' all. I'm putting this out.

[Melissa Ford]

I did not hear that.

[Ish]

No, he did. Mel.

[Joe Budden]

Stop right now before you go. Know what that also says? Is that when I sent her the video to lay eyes on it, you didn't watch it. That you didn't.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, no, here's the thing.

[Ish]

You didn't watch it.

[Erickson]

Yeah, good point. That was a good one right there.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah.

[Ish]

You watched the whole thing.

[Joe Budden]

You didn't watch that video. That is a bold face lie. It.

[Melissa Ford]

No, it doesn't matter. It doesn't. Doesn't matter.

[Joe Budden]

I love you, man. I swear to God. You're right.

[Ish]

Okay. I respect.

[Melissa Ford]

It doesn't matter because in the time. During the time that we were recording is what I am referring to. Yeah, but you keep acting stupid about.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, no, you're right.

[Parks]

We are also stupid. So.

[Ish]

Yeah, you know me. You know, they call me chicken nugget.

[Joe Budden]

Oh.

[Melissa Ford]

I am referring to the point in time in which we were having our exchange and he was saying this. I did not hear him. That is what I'm referring to. I did not hear at that time.

[Ish]

One question in closing.

[Parks]

Did you watch the video?

[Ish]

Now, now, now, now. Now that we talked about it, now that you're more comfortable with it, don't you feel like for content purposes and.

[Erickson]

Being a team player, you said.

[Ish]

You know what, Joe? Just listen to me, man. You know what, Joe? I'm here for the team. Go ahead.

[Erickson]

Just.

[Joe Budden]

Just.

[Ish]

Just. Just go ahead.

[Erickson]

Put it out and cut me in for real, man.

[Ish]

On some content.

[Melissa Ford]

I really, really started to give some thought as to how much I would be able to handle if I was making the amount of money that this was. Oh, you could say whatever the fuck you want about me. I. Yep, yep. I go along with it.

[Joe Budden]

She want some bread.

[Melissa Ford]

It really. It really softens the blow. You know what I'm saying? When you got some money in your pocket, it softens the blow like a. Like I got a sealy posture peing underneath, right? Ow. God damn it.

[Joe Budden]

That should hurt you.

[Ish]

Should you give us a. There's some crazy shit going on up here. She tell you put it out of bread. That's what she saying.

[Joe Budden]

Fans, I fear that many of you are. Were right. I thought that y' all was just dead wrong, but it appears about what y' all got Us, they got the think pieces. The think.

[Melissa Ford]

The think pieces said that summation.

[Joe Budden]

This crew would. This crew would never be the same.

[Erickson]

Basic.

[Joe Budden]

Basically, the crew would never be the same. You got to watch the performance now. You got to watch how they look at Joe, how they respond to Joe.

[Erickson]

Because the numbers is out. That ain't no if.

[Joe Budden]

You about to reply with maturity. Yeah, we not on maturity.

[Erickson]

No, that's real life. That was no shocker to me. It was lower than what I thought, if you want to know the truth. Who you talking to?

[Joe Budden]

Go ahead. That's a bad month.

[Erickson]

It's a bad month.

[Ish]

N you talking about getting mad? That makes sense. When you.

[Erickson]

Oh, thank God.

[Joe Budden]

This is what y' all saw.

[Erickson]

They just leaked at the right time.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, I was exposed and vulnerable.

[Ish]

No, you wasn't. I know that number. I know what number they saw. I know Joe did that to throw off this. The predicted.

[Joe Budden]

You ain't got tell me they sick of that.

[Ish]

There's the actual number and there's a number number where they predict that you're gonna make. And usually the actual number is more than the other number. It's crazy. It's some slick shots. I thought I had to think about you doing some shit over there.

[Erickson]

He not fooling me.

[Parks]

Math is pretty easy to do, guys.

[Ish]

You're right. It is 25. 159,000 subscribers. Or 10.

[Joe Budden]

Y' all seen the numbers, man. It was a low month. We gotta get back to it. For real.

[Ish]

We gotta get back to it. Put that out.

[Joe Budden]

The summertime, that drought again. The day of drought.

[Erickson]

The summertime drop off.

[Ish]

Break mel off so you can put it on.

[Parks]

What are we doing for 4th of July?

[Joe Budden]

I'm going fishing now.

[Parks]

Me too, actually.

[Erickson]

For real.

[Joe Budden]

Well.

[Ish]

About why y' all doing that?

[Joe Budden]

About that. The fourth of July is on a Friday.

[Erickson]

Yo, here we go.

[Joe Budden]

I did make plans. For me for you to not be here. Yeah, because.

[Ish]

Are you crazy?

[Parks]

I'm gonna figure out how.

[Erickson]

I just want you to know when.

[Parks]

He figured out from the boat.

[Erickson]

You do know that, right?

[Ish]

Say what?

[Erickson]

What he just said. He said he made plans to go fishing and he was insinuating that rest of us.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, we're holding it down.

[Erickson]

That's your fault.

[Joe Budden]

Just cause. That's a funny joke.

[Erickson]

I know.

[Joe Budden]

It is funny. I'm trolling, y' all, but I want the wood. What do y' all ask?

[Erickson]

When he was in here saying, what.

[Joe Budden]

Do y' all want to happen on.

[Erickson]

The 4th of July?

[Joe Budden]

Cause told me hot dogs and hamburgers.

[Erickson]

There Some holes.

[Ish]

No, no, no.

[Joe Budden]

That you can't eat hot dogs and hamburgers here.

[Ish]

Cory tried to come up with that. Cory tried to say, yo, you know what? I'mma have Cory.

[Joe Budden]

What are they talking about? What do y' all want to do for the 4th of July?

[Parks]

Barbecue America.

[Joe Budden]

So we can barbecue America. I mean, Cory, I'm being here dressed like Joel.

[Erickson]

You think I'm not coming?

[Ish]

Paul, this is what Corey said. He tried to soften the blow. Yo, I'mma have somebody barbecue and just bring in some hot dogs and hamburgers and some trays. I bet I'm looking at Cory like, if you don't shut your ass up, we not in jail. We want. We want that fresh hot. We don't want you to bring that in some trays and we just pick out of it. We can't do it there. We can't.

[Joe Budden]

How you feel is about what? America coming to work. America.

[Parks]

The birth.

[Joe Budden]

The birth.

[Erickson]

Celebrating America's birthday.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. How. How do you feel about.

[Ish]

But at least if you have us come ultra side, if you could get buy the proper grill to go up there and have somebody behind grilling, that would.

[Joe Budden]

Where we letting this off at? Y' all never spoke to me like this before. Yo, when we come up there, steak right there.

[Erickson]

And we want steaks on the grill is crazy.

[Ish]

Joe, you could do that, though. You could do that, Joe. You could do it right now, right there. It look ill.

[Erickson]

You know what? Yeah. Every Friday in the summer.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, there we go.

[Ish]

Every Friday.

[Erickson]

Every Friday in the summer. We do some summer we getting dressed down Friday.

[Ish]

Would that be bad, ma' am?

[Melissa Ford]

That would be amazing.

[Ish]

Y.

[Joe Budden]

They the greatest.

[Ish]

He had his whole plan. Y had his whole lined up. He had a whole plan. That plan never happened yet.

[Melissa Ford]

I ran into Keno. He was asking what we're doing for the fourth.

[Ish]

Oh, look, we ran into him, too, but we didn't talk to him.

[Joe Budden]

We just said hi.

[Ish]

We saw him. We saw him, too. We just said, what up? Yo, he had a. He said, what up? Salute, nigga. You had a whole conversation.

[Joe Budden]

That's your little superpower. Running into people and just speaking. Exchanging numbers, speaking to them.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, what am I supposed to do?

[Joe Budden]

Anyway, if y' all want to have a cookout up here, we can have a cookout.

[Ish]

Please.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Ish]

Don't play around. I'm coming in.

[Joe Budden]

If y' all want to also start the work day early on the 4th of July, so that can get out of here by 4. I'm cool with that. Too. But I'm not moving Friday to Thursday because of America. Can we do both? I'm not. I'm not doing that.

[Ish]

Can you have some? Because last time you did it when you did your little. Not little big 10 year anniversary.

[Joe Budden]

I looked at the.

[Ish]

I looked at the sign sheet. It was up here early. 8am setting up 7am here early and.

[Joe Budden]

Get out of here. If y' all want.

[Ish]

No, just. But get. I do want to do that, but I also want you to bring somebody up here to barbecue. I just take a hamburger and a hot dog.

[Erickson]

Bro, you don't even eat ketchup.

[Ish]

I just. I do eat ketchup.

[Parks]

That's all he eats.

[Ish]

All you need is ketchup. If Joe, that's. You think it looks flish.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, this is crazy. I ain't going to lie.

[Erickson]

Yo, this is funny.

[Joe Budden]

This is.

[Ish]

No, I go right there, back there, mid paw. Just go out there, get a hammer and walk in.

[Joe Budden]

But we. We've gotten a little bit distracted.

[Ish]

Gotcha.

[Joe Budden]

Mel, you saying that if you get paid, you'll deal with the triggering and the abuse somehow.

[Melissa Ford]

I feel like it would soften the.

[Joe Budden]

Blow a little bit.

[Ish]

Let's go. Mel.

[Parks]

I feel like that's a perfect segue. I ain't going to hold you.

[Erickson]

I ain't going to hold you. I won't be the one to say it. This what Puff the Fist was saying.

[Joe Budden]

Exactly.

[Ish]

Look, he got it from me.

[Erickson]

I looked at him.

[Ish]

I said, that's what.

[Joe Budden]

Look what happened to Stockholm.

[Erickson]

What happened to Stockholm?

[Joe Budden]

No.

[Ish]

Get a flight and go to Stockholm for some money. Oh, don't do that to her. What the happened to Stockholm? Don't do that to her. Don't shoot. Don't bring no guns out.

[Joe Budden]

What are we talking about?

[Erickson]

I love you. That wasn't a shot.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, I'm going to smoke because I.

[Joe Budden]

Do want to put it out. How much?

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, man, talk about that off camera.

[Erickson]

I like.

[Ish]

I like. I like her angle. I feel like she. I feel like if that. I feel like hell.

[Erickson]

Yeah.

[Ish]

It's gonna make way more hazard pay.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I'll pay you.

[Erickson]

I'll pay for it. It's called hazard pay.

[Joe Budden]

Put it out now. Now, fans, I was gonna give it to you on the arm, but now that money gotta come from somewhere, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, time to make that shop number a little more important.

[Ish]

Exploring. I know about that shop.

[Joe Budden]

All right, Come on. What else? Let's go to the pool. No, no, no, no, no. Hold up, hold up. We didn't leave music Yet. Oh, man. And I hate to do it, but it won't go away. And we can't keep running from it. Who?

[Parks]

We should know.

[Joe Budden]

No one. Okay.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, I see.

[Joe Budden]

But we will.

[Erickson]

I want this on somebody.

[Joe Budden]

But we will try to figure out why Amerie keeps trying to sing acapella.

[Parks]

Front of the show.

[Erickson]

The band was up. She made them shut up. You know, sometimes she cut them off and made them stop. And then.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah, maybe.

[Parks]

Maybe someone in the band was out of key and she was actually in key. Never thought about that, did you?

[Erickson]

They forgot the keys at home. They always trying to save you.

[Parks]

Nope.

[Erickson]

I bought the book.

[Parks]

That's what's up.

[Joe Budden]

No.

[Parks]

My stomach hurt.

[Erickson]

Who's she going on tomorrow?

[Joe Budden]

Marie is a friend of the show, so I'm not going to say anything negative about her. I support her no matter what she does. But what I will ask is, you know, you just don't have to do that.

[Parks]

TV tracks are just fine.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, it seemed like she's popping up a lot of places and singing live.

[Parks]

They even make the little autumn pedal shits. You can go real.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, I get it. The book, the album, Music coming soon.

[Parks]

Oh, yeah. Which I'm sure will be good.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. But, yeah, the music could be fire. But I just don't understand this. I don't get it. But whatever. We love Amory Salute. Shout out to Amory Salute. Salute. Also, in quick questions that nobody cares about, why does Jewel Santana have the half half Shiesty watch your.

[Ish]

Because he wants to.

[Erickson]

Because he doing he. Because he a trendsetter.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I'm glad that you said that, friend.

[Parks]

Fourth of July.

[Joe Budden]

Well, first, let me hear from. Never mind. I'm glad you said that. My next question is. Y' all. I didn't. What happened? He called the blank man.

[Erickson]

That's how blank man look.

[Ish]

Do what he want. Remember that Blankness. I forgot about that movie.

[Joe Budden]

My next question for y' all. Is Jewel Santana a fashion icon? A rap fashion icon?

[Parks]

He certainly was at one point.

[Ish]

I think so.

[Parks]

It certainly was.

[Erickson]

Was.

[Parks]

Does. Does fashion icon have to be forever?

[Joe Budden]

Like, maybe we just not seeing the sauce with the half face. Shiesty.

[Melissa Ford]

And does fashion icon mean trendsetter?

[Joe Budden]

No.

[Ish]

They were trendsetters.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay. I'm just.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Melissa Ford]

So I feel like the two things are not the same. Okay, so trendsetter, not fashion icon.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, baby, that's my.

[Erickson]

If you start enough trends, you would be deemed icon.

[Parks]

Maybe it's multiple trends.

[Joe Budden]

Would you consider fashion trends?

[Ish]

Did you consider what's my man name? From back in the days. Dapper Dan. Do you consider Dapper Dan a fashion icon?

[Melissa Ford]

Yes.

[Ish]

Okay. Because he started a trend, though, by taking the fabrics and he's.

[Melissa Ford]

But he's also a clothier.

[Joe Budden]

Like, we're underselling Dapper Dan further.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, for real?

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Ish]

I don't want to understand a personality.

[Joe Budden]

That just dresses changed all of this.

[Ish]

No, please.

[Joe Budden]

Thank you.

[Ish]

I don't want to undersell him. I tried to reach out to him, so don't do that to me. Yes.

[Erickson]

He's different.

[Ish]

Got you. Okay.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay. So that's my. Take that. That was my opinion. Not fashion icon. Trendsetter.

[Parks]

Sure.

[Melissa Ford]

Yes. That's what I'm giving him.

[Joe Budden]

The half face, shiesty looks. Did y' all see it?

[Erickson]

I saw it.

[Parks]

No, I'm gonna take a look.

[Erickson]

I saw it.

[Joe Budden]

You want me to show you?

[Erickson]

Yeah, show them. Show them, please.

[Ish]

Why did you screenshot it? I hate when you do that.

[Joe Budden]

Part of my research for the pond.

[Ish]

Stop.

[Parks]

You don't want to miss anything.

[Erickson]

And that's the summer shiesty. It's. It's hot.

[Joe Budden]

Ish.

[Melissa Ford]

Look like a Teenage mutant Ninja Turtle.

[Ish]

Stop.

[Erickson]

It's too hot to have the whole shy on. All right?

[Parks]

That's what it is.

[Joe Budden]

That was the end of my quick questions that no one really cares about.

[Melissa Ford]

You think that's going to catch on?

[Joe Budden]

No.

[Melissa Ford]

In trends?

[Joe Budden]

No and no.

[Erickson]

Listen, I'm gonna keep it a buck. If they was hot enough, I could see it. If they were.

[Joe Budden]

If.

[Erickson]

Yeah, they were hotter.

[Joe Budden]

Although, actually, I lied. I have one more quick question that nobody cares about. Well, actually, that's a lie. Everybody cares about it. Okay. Who were the geniuses that decided to kill off Marge Simpson the other night?

[Parks]

Excuse me?

[Joe Budden]

Marge Simpson from the Simpsons is dead. Yeah. Is dead. May she rest in peace. They killed her in an episode the other night and had a funeral.

[Parks]

Is this like the final season or some final season?

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, well, it's the 36th season, so I don't know. Maybe that's it.

[Parks]

I didn't even know they were honestly still making Simpsons. It's been a long time since that's happened.

[Erickson]

So, what, she passed away from old age?

[Joe Budden]

What you say with the show?

[Erickson]

They did Terminator.

[Joe Budden]

But you know about Simpsons predictions, right?

[Erickson]

They did the Terminator.

[Joe Budden]

If they predicted it, she dead.

[Parks]

That's true.

[Joe Budden]

All right, good. So let me not jump the gun. I saw a lot of rest in peace, Marge Simpsons. Let me not lie to y' all and act like I watched the Simpsons that night. I did not. I Did not. Please. All right. That was the end of my quick question. I fucked me up for a minute.

[Erickson]

Just gonna cry. No, but you can't kill Mark Simpson though. Just can't do it.

[Joe Budden]

What else needs our attention? The Puff charges. The Puff case?

[Ish]

Yeah. Mel had this queued up for a while. Queued up for a while.

[Erickson]

Take us out of here, Mel.

[Melissa Ford]

All right. The prosecution delivered their closing argument yesterday. It was four hours. Her name was Kristi Slavic.

[Joe Budden]

And that's basically presenting the case again.

[Melissa Ford]

Basically. That's what they basically have to do.

[Joe Budden]

They have to submit for four hours. You presented the case?

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

And I think after an hour, hour.

[Joe Budden]

And a half, you lose the jury.

[Erickson]

The jury's sitting there about to fall asleep. Like it sounds like wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, at that point.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah. So basically for counts three and five to convict Combs and two counts of transportation to engage in prostitution, she said the jury must find that he knowingly transported an individual in interstate or foreign commerce, et cetera, et cetera. So it was. I mean, I have a recording of people who were like, you know, did like a summation of what she said. Like a minute and a half, please.

[Joe Budden]

I'd love to hear summation.

[Erickson]

Bill Maher came out publicly and said something about it and it caught a little bit of traction. He was basically kind of in support of Puff.

[Joe Budden]

You got a clip? I'd love to hear it.

[Melissa Ford]

Did they say who they're alleging was a part of this so called conspiracy? They did. And they actually showed their pictures during this presentation. They showed KK Christina Karam's face.

[Joe Budden]

Combs.

[Melissa Ford]

Former chief of staff Fahim, one of his security guards. Drock. Another security guard. Uncle Paulie.

[Joe Budden]

I'm sorry, babe.

[Melissa Ford]

No worries. Please, no worries. Okay.

[Erickson]

Showed shepherd here, showed Johnny.

[Joe Budden]

Those sound just like the voices. I imagine what's going on on the Internet.

[Melissa Ford]

It was Andrea Canning from Dateline.

[Joe Budden]

I love Dateline, but that, that sounded. Anyway, come on, let's. Let's put some. Put some soul in this story, dog.

[Erickson]

I still think it's 50.

[Joe Budden]

50.

[Erickson]

It might actually be about 60, 40, I think. Puff's way. I think he'll get found guilty on the prostitution charges. And from my understanding, they allegedly dropped the arson charge and I think the attempted kidnapping charge that were tied into the racketeering shit. Just from my reports that I've been seeing. In my opinion, I think they'll find them guilty on the charges, but I don't think they could prove the conspiracy and the RICO shit because it's organized crime that's a hard charge, I think, for them to prove. But I'm not an attorney, so that's just my opinion.

[Joe Budden]

Neither am I. So I can't speak to whether charges were dropped or not. Everything I'm reading was they directed the jury to not pay any attention to that part of the arson and all that. Yeah, yeah. And I don't know if that's dropping, but to them, they're. They're simplifying the case for the jury to pay attention to these things that we think we got them on and. And not, like I said that the puff people was moving for mistrial. Every time they got up there and said some that they couldn't prove, like, yeah, you burnt my car. It's like, all right, we not. Let's get this out the way and get to what we're here for. They say that we could get a verdict as early as next week.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah. His lawyer was closing today, and part of her closing said, this is a case about his real life relationships, and the government is trying to turn those relationships into a racketeering case. The evidence is going to show you a very flawed individual, but it will not show you a racketed racketeer, a sex trafficker, or somebody transporting for prostitution. She also made a joke towards the. The jury about kidnapping and asked them whether or not they felt like they've been kidnapped.

[Joe Budden]

Then I read something else that says if he is found guilty, then the government takes control of all of his assets. What'd you say?

[Erickson]

Yeah, that's true. Because they're gonna say he got those assets. That sucks.

[Joe Budden]

Well, if that alone, I would. I would think they would charge they would bring him back guilty. But it's in the jury's hands.

[Parks]

No, I think on that they won't.

[Erickson]

I think off of that, they would bring him back innocent because they know that he didn't acquire those things through those means.

[Joe Budden]

No, I take it back because it's on the jury. I thought it was a judge. It's on the jury.

[Erickson]

He didn't acquire that shit through.

[Joe Budden]

No, not through that.

[Erickson]

Yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

This is an interesting statistic, though. In 2018-2020, 2, federal prosecutors won convictions in more than 97% of the cases in which RICO was the most serious charge filed.

[Parks]

It doesn't speak to how many went to trial or how many actual. It just says they got convictions on the RICO charge.

[Erickson]

Not just that. Most people start playing out. They play out getting looked at 200 years, right. Niggas will plea out for 27 or 30. You know what I'm saying? And that's still a win for them. Yeah, that's still a win.

[Joe Budden]

And in some of the recent cases, we starting to question what a RICO is and how it applies versus them going after the people that RICO was intended for. Right.

[Melissa Ford]

So it says even if Combs is the only person indicted as part of a broader criminal scheme, which would be the rico, prosecutors can still argue that he relied on the help of others, such as personal assistants, bodyguards, and business associates. Associates. Some of the witnesses against Combs have testified in return for immunity for prosecutors or have spoken with federal authorities during proffer sessions during which the statements they make cannot be used to prosecute them. So in the summation that I heard, they listed a bunch of the people that they feel were the enforcers, you know, the assistants, bodyguards, charged.

[Erickson]

None of them got charged.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, but that's what they're basically saying, is that prosecutors, prosecutorial fucking witnesses, they gained immunity by way of testifying. So even though these are named individuals who are part of the criminal enterprise, they've escaped prosecution because of immunity.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, but they weren't.

[Erickson]

Yes and no.

[Joe Budden]

They were never forced and coerced. Yes, you can. Yes. We're giving you immunity because we want to hear your complete and truthful testimony. Even with your involvement.

[Erickson]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

Your involvement doesn't say you were forced, coerced, pressured. And I think that's where a bulk of this case lies. He's not. Again, he's not on trial for domestic violence. Right.

[Erickson]

But no, I want you to come in and rat on this. I want you to rat on him. In ratting on him, you might implicate yourself. So we're gonna say, Joe, you was riding with Ish when Ish shot the nigga. We not mad at you. We gonna give you immunity for your testimony against Ish. Joe never got indicted. Nobody else got indicted. Nobody else got charged with him. So that's my thing. When they start talking about it being a criminal enterprise and organization, if it's an organization, then there are some other guilty parties within the organization and nobody ever else got charged. That's the part that, again, I'm not.

[Melissa Ford]

Well, that's the. That's the thing about prosecuting witnesses for the prosecution and them offering immunity. Like, they look at that as the lesser of two evils. We don't want you as the assistant, the bodyguard. We don't want you. You're not the big fucking fish. That's the big fish. That's who we're going after. So if you sit up There. And you say, you indicate that you're, you know, you're enabling or enforcing was strictly based off of his direction, explicit direction, then that is them making their case.

[Joe Budden]

It also sound like people that never tried to force anybody to do anything before. Like it's difficult to force four and five people to do one act in concert.

[Melissa Ford]

But it's not. It's not necessarily in concert.

[Erickson]

Not true.

[Joe Budden]

Listen to this.

[Erickson]

It's other ways to force people without physical force. Like, you could just. If you paying somebody. I heard an artist say one time that I'm giving XYZ a certain amount of money, and now I got a problem with you. And I tell them, yo, y' all money cut off as long as my problem's still walking around. Now, I didn't force y' all to go do nothing. I infer I indirectly said, go handle that so y' all can get your money back. So it's ways that you could skirt around. I ain't forcing somebody. I didn't indirectly say, I told you, why you not getting paid? I didn't say, go handle that. When I say, go handle that, that's me telling you, go handle that. I'm telling you, yo, Parks, I can't pay you because Joe did some bullshit. Whatever Parks goes and does on his own, I'm completely unaware of.

[Joe Budden]

And again, I'm only talking about the part where they said some of the sex workers were there against their will. Nobody. I didn't. Nobody testified. None of them testified to being forced to be here. Some of them said, yo, it was. It was her. I never spoke to him. Some of them say, hey, he was never there.

[Erickson]

I never saw him.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. So it depends on the jury's understanding and interpretation of all of the stuff they said, their retention of all and how much. They've been sitting there for a while.

[Erickson]

Because out of the country at sometimes when they was having freak offs or whatever the case may be, it's like.

[Joe Budden]

Because, look, I'm 50. 50. If they get him, I can understand it. If he walks, I totally understand. I'm 50, 50 on this one.

[Erickson]

And the whole thing about the sex worker saying, yo, it was her. I never talked to him. And then she turned around and say, well, it was for him. You get what I'm saying? Like, there's your organization part. Got you. But what if I'm not there? You get what I'm saying? Like, again, I see both sides. I get both sides. I get both sides. If I'm not there, I'm out of the country. And you rocking out and we got text messages of you saying you want to rock out.

[Parks]

He was there sometimes. Just cause he wasn't there sometimes the process means.

[Erickson]

Though I might not have been forcing you. All true. That might have been something you wanted to do. I'm not copping or caping for a puff. I'm giving an objective viewpoint that, yo, sometimes me and Parks might smoke weed together. Sometimes Parks smoke weed on his own. That don't mean you forcing him to smoke weed.

[Joe Budden]

Again. I'm 50. 50 on this.

[Erickson]

Yeah, me and.

[Joe Budden]

Me too. And we too close to a verdict for me to sit here with all that. We a week away, too. Weeks away. I can wait. I can wait.

[Erickson]

I think they're gonna come back quickly. I think we had that verdict by.

[Joe Budden]

Next spot, and I think that's why he. He didn't even bother to call nobody's ass. We dragging us out any. Some more. I think I did what I had to do.

[Erickson]

All my. On my. All my defense team told me, yo, they did not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that we did nothing. It's doubt here.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. So pretty much.

[Erickson]

But we'll see.

[Joe Budden]

We shall see. That's gonna be a big part day. Yeah. Yeah, it is. That's gonna be a big day.

[Erickson]

Culturally, people smarter than us, people more legally advanced than us are still having their questions. So that just speaks to potential reasonable doubt.

[Joe Budden]

True, but I don't think there's too many people smarter than you. Don't show it yourself. That's not your son. Yeah, you him. I'm listening to what you say about it. Done it. All them legal action experts, anybody in.

[Parks]

College from MAD.

[Ish]

That got the college still.

[Joe Budden]

Are you planning on finishing? Yeah, I know you always say that, but I mean, seriously, do you plan on.

[Erickson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's just time hasn't really opened up for me to do that.

[Joe Budden]

You got it. Got it. Got it.

[Erickson]

Because again, when you get toward the end, I told you, like, they don't just have the classes all the time. At the very, very end, they might get at class once a semester, and that shit might be a Thursday night. You know what I mean? On Tuesday night, some shit like that. It'd be hard to really schedule.

[Joe Budden]

Well, not if you sit down on a Tuesday night or Thursday night. Like, do it if you want to do it.

[Erickson]

No, but the Tuesday night we work here. It might conflict with my schedule.

[Joe Budden]

You can leave for seven months paid, like, go get your degree.

[Erickson]

You said what?

[Joe Budden]

You can leave for seven months, paid, like, if you coming back with your. What is it? You. What is it? What's the paper?

[Ish]

I don't like that shit, nigga. Bachelor's.

[Joe Budden]

A bachelor's.

[Ish]

I don't like that shit.

[Joe Budden]

What?

[Ish]

Yeah, I know. Favoritism.

[Joe Budden]

If you want to go get. You. Do you want to get a bachelor's?

[Ish]

I want to go. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Or do you want to be a bachelor?

[Erickson]

Yo.

[Joe Budden]

Or do you watch the Bachelor?

[Erickson]

Yo, they got French fry class.

[Ish]

I want to go to college.

[Joe Budden]

Get it done. It's real. Like, don't put it on the back burner. This guy crazy. All right, you the. I don't care no more, all right?

[Erickson]

You just argue with Pop over this.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, I didn't, because that's a joke, bro, relax. Anybody that want to go to college, please go to school. Like, don't listen to me.

[Erickson]

Don't force the ones that don't want to go.

[Joe Budden]

But if you don't.

[Erickson]

Get a mop, we should talk.

[Joe Budden]

Get a mop.

[Erickson]

This thing is stupid.

[Joe Budden]

Look, he said a mop. Yeah, that was the mentality in the 80s. Yeah, in the 80s and 70s. If you don't go to college, you're just gonna be mopping masa floor. The world ain't like that no more.

[Ish]

You don't have to be a janitor.

[Erickson]

I go go to get an electrician license. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

That's what Tyler the creator just finished.

[Erickson]

Telling everybody stealing out here.

[Joe Budden]

Go be electrician. Go build. Put some cabinets up. Everybody don't have to be a podcast.

[Erickson]

Ask Corey. He's stealing.

[Joe Budden]

All of. My little brother and my little sister are asking for a Tyler creator ticket tickets to his concert. It's just funny to me when you learn who your siblings and the little. The. The next generation are a fan of. I think that's so cute.

[Erickson]

It's fire.

[Joe Budden]

I'm so happy for them. One of them is Kendrick Doubt. My sister is Tyler Doubt and Ethan too cool to do anything, and they think no Travis. They think he going to college. No, Travis, Ethan, Ethan don't give a fuck about none of that.

[Erickson]

No, I'm saying none of them not Travis fans.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But. But Kendrick and. And Tyler, they fan super crazy. But yeah, they all want to go to the Travis show. What else, what else? What else? What else is there? I'm really enjoying the sponsor for you. Yeah, this is great.

[Melissa Ford]

Ice, you had me put the double XL freshman list up there.

[Joe Budden]

Why? Why?

[Melissa Ford]

I don't. I have no idea why.

[Erickson]

No, we were just empower talking about it.

[Joe Budden]

It's a New list. Take it away. I'd rather y' all talk about Love Island. Y' all are the Love island guys. But you know what? Let's see what double XL is talking about with the Fresh, the freshman cover.

[Parks]

I'm curious. Are you pro hutta or anti Hutta? Me, too.

[Erickson]

That's like ice. No, what's ice mean? What do you mean?

[Parks]

She's a problematic cast member of Love island and a lot of people hate her because she is extra annoying. But for me, you need to crash out on the show.

[Erickson]

She was. She was annoying to them because they was hating on us off the rip. Like her and my man Jeremiah, man. Yeah. Spit on her and put it. Wow. That's what they showed. I don't watch the show.

[Joe Budden]

I haven't seen.

[Erickson]

Shorty was crying over a dude. Some chick was crying over some. Like, she was distraught, right? And the very next scene, they showed some nut to butt with her, and she up to her and got to getting that thing right. Very next scene.

[Melissa Ford]

Did you say nut to butt?

[Erickson]

Yeah.

[Ish]

This is freaky, yo. This is.

[Erickson]

We don't know what nut to butt is.

[Ish]

He like an old porn star, son. Like, he, like.

[Erickson]

Why. Why you winking your eyes like the.

[Ish]

Old, old porn star with the wooden panels on the wall with the lava lamp? Bubbles.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[Joe Budden]

That was his porn name, too. Bubbles. Look at this. He. Look at his bubbles. You're not putting it down no more.

[Erickson]

You're right.

[Ish]

Went to the castle and gave it all up to the masters.

[Joe Budden]

Just be a good dad.

[Erickson]

There you go.

[Joe Budden]

All that powerful dick is over. Yeah. I'm 50 years old in one year. Who's planning your 50th birthday party?

[Ish]

Oh, yeah, you asked that, too.

[Joe Budden]

But now we're closer, so I'm asking him. And look, you gotta have this, Corey.

[Erickson]

I'm telling you. I don't. We gotta have any plans.

[Ish]

They've been saying that, though, Joe. And you said that you was gonna plan it for him.

[Joe Budden]

You should. All right. You should have something for your 50 birthday.

[Parks]

It's the winter time, okay?

[Joe Budden]

Oh.

[Ish]

Gonna be 50.

[Erickson]

Minx out.

[Joe Budden]

Look at him. He dead ass. He's a weirdo. Look at him.

[Ish]

He came. He didn't tell us when his birthday was. He just came and sat here on, I think on his birthday date.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, he did. Yeah. Never mind. Never mind. No one know when I'm gonna get mad. No.

[Erickson]

Let me tell you what happens.

[Joe Budden]

Thank you, Flip. Yo, and then it's gonna be January 19th or whatever the is oh, he's 16th. It's gonna be the 17th. It's gonna be a Friday. He gonna go or nothing?

[Erickson]

Yo, no, me. What y' all do this week?

[Joe Budden]

That was my birthday.

[Erickson]

Like, what me and Imani was sitting for. Nat birthday.

[Parks]

That's what he.

[Erickson]

I was like, oh, yeah, yeah. Nat a Capricorn. Yeah. My was the other day. Now Iman's like, we just talk. Hold up. Whoa.

[Joe Budden]

Back up. My.

[Erickson]

When your birthday was? I was like, yesterday or two days ago. Iman's like, yo, you different.

[Ish]

Don't like, that.

[Erickson]

Is not normal.

[Ish]

You should do something for your 50th, bro. Even if you're not gonna have a party, at least let us come together and have a.

[Erickson]

No, you gonna have a party. We just not gonna going to know.

[Ish]

Be mad Venezuelans. That's a mad Portuguese. Mad people from Portugal.

[Erickson]

Me, amigo.

[Ish]

These your friends? He's my girl. You know my girl. Cory know that. Cory know.

[Joe Budden]

Why is funny. The other day, I minded my business somewhere. Oh, actually, I was in bed, chilling on some old nigga shit. O. Our friend of the show. O From life after. Shout out to O. Shout out to O. Yeah, send me a text. He said, yo, they having a little function over here at the cigar spot. And I ain't gonna lie to you. It's kind of lit in here. This look like a lot of money over here. And I ain't gonna. And there's some. There's some. Something going on. You might take a look. I was like, yeah, right. Dog, get off my phone. He says, yo, you want me to send you a video? I said, send me a video. He sent me a video. It was a lot of white people, men and women, having the time of their lives at that cigar bar. And then he said, guess. Take a guess what he said. You guessed it.

[Ish]

It's just his.

[Joe Budden]

It's just like. And I said, yeah, he. We feel differently about. I mean. I mean, you can't send me the video. All the snow.

[Erickson]

That ain't gonna bring you out.

[Joe Budden]

Even though he said it was something exquisite up in there. Actually, should I be saying that?

[Melissa Ford]

Exquisite. That was the word he used. Exquisite.

[Joe Budden]

Exquisite. And then I was like, she white. Like, yeah. I was like, all right. It's cool.

[Ish]

She won't accept that.

[Joe Budden]

25, 27, 28, 50. A little bit.

[Ish]

She'll come here and Turn it up.

[Joe Budden]

3200. Best and final. Best and final.

[Erickson]

You might get it for 19.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah. Depending on where you get the white.

[Erickson]

Girl from, what that means. Yeah, they Ain't doing no better.

[Joe Budden]

19. That's crazy. So what else needs our attention? You guys?

[Melissa Ford]

I found another list.

[Joe Budden]

All right.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay. It's from the New York Times. It's the best movies of the 21st century. But it's a list of, like, how many. It's a list of 100. So I'm going to. I'll just start from 20 and then go to one. Yeah, cool.

[Joe Budden]

All right.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

All right.

[Melissa Ford]

Number 20. Yes.

[Erickson]

21St century.

[Melissa Ford]

21St century, yes. So for the last 25 years.

[Erickson]

Old one.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah. Okay, so number 20 is the Wolf of Wall Street.

[Parks]

Great movie.

[Melissa Ford]

Number 19 is Zodiac. Number 18 is Itu Mama Tabian. 17 is Brokeback Mountain.

[Joe Budden]

Hey.

[Melissa Ford]

16, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. 15, City of God, Crouching Tiger. It's very polarizing. Some people are like, that was trash. And other people were like, it was genius.

[Parks]

That is fire.

[Melissa Ford]

15 was City of God.

[Joe Budden]

I'd love to. Okay, guess what number one is or number two is. What's your guess for what's at the top?

[Melissa Ford]

You'll never guess.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, never mind.

[Erickson]

Oh, yeah, no, no. But, you know, one of them, Infinity War.

[Joe Budden]

I go Interstellar.

[Erickson]

Interstellar. Was that wasn't before 2000? No, no.

[Melissa Ford]

There was 20, wasn't it 2011.

[Erickson]

Anything interstellar is top.

[Joe Budden]

Interstellar is probably a top.

[Erickson]

Should be top 10. It should be top 10.

[Joe Budden]

Let's hear it.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay, so 14 is Inglorious Basterds.

[Erickson]

Heal me some.

[Melissa Ford]

13 was Children of Men. 12 was the Zone of Interest. It was a. It was. It was just, like, a couple years ago. It's like indie film.

[Joe Budden]

Got it.

[Parks]

Got it.

[Melissa Ford]

Eleven was Mad Max, Fury Road, Charlize Theron and Tom Hardy.

[Erickson]

They don't make the list. I mean, interesting, interesting.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay, number 10 is social network.

[Joe Budden]

Nine is better believe It. You Better Believe It. And I hear that they trying to work on a sequel to Social Network. I don't know how to. I don't know how that's gonna work. But Social Network, I just watched that the other day. That's how good that movie is.

[Parks]

David Fincher is doing a Squid Games American reboot after this is over.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, that was racist. Stupid. Go ahead, Mel.

[Melissa Ford]

All right. Nine is Spirited Away. Whatever. Eight is Get Out. Seven is Eternal Sunshine of the the Spotless Mind. Number six, no country for Old Men. Incredible movie. Five was Moonlight.

[Erickson]

That was good. Four, moonlight was good.

[Parks]

I don't know about five.

[Erickson]

I don't know about five either.

[Joe Budden]

It was good, though.

[Erickson]

About 55.

[Melissa Ford]

Four was in the Mood for Love.

[Joe Budden]

What year? Cocaine Cowboy came out.

[Erickson]

Documentary. It was a doc. And that was a long time.

[Joe Budden]

Dallas International Club. What's the movie? Late 90s.

[Erickson]

That was 25 years ago. It wasn't 25 years ago. Yeah, that was a really.

[Parks]

Somewhere. That was an amazing movie.

[Joe Budden]

That movie should be on this list.

[Erickson]

2013.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, it's not in the top 20. Okay, so number three is there will Be Blood. Great epic movie.

[Parks]

Great movie.

[Melissa Ford]

Number two.

[Joe Budden]

I want to get some more.

[Erickson]

Don't put, like, Dune on there or some shit. Don't was good.

[Parks]

They better not.

[Erickson]

Not.

[Joe Budden]

Where's Batman with Bane?

[Parks]

That's probably gonna be in this top two somewhere.

[Erickson]

You out.

[Joe Budden]

Your Batman with Bane is one of the best movies in the last 25 years.

[Erickson]

Not no top 25. Not better than the one with Joker.

[Melissa Ford]

None of the Batmans are in the Heath Ledger one.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, Heath Ledger one is.

[Parks]

The first one. Is the best one out of all.

[Joe Budden]

The Heath Ledger one. You're right. Dark Knight, that's Bane was my. But Batman, that was the one.

[Melissa Ford]

None of the Batmans are in the top 20. All right, zero.

[Erickson]

Give me two.

[Melissa Ford]

Number two is Mulholland Drive from 2001.

[Parks]

Wow, that's high. And I like that movie, but I love David Lynch.

[Joe Budden]

Rest in Peace.

[Melissa Ford]

Number one is Parasite.

[Joe Budden]

I could see that.

[Parks]

That was a good movie.

[Melissa Ford]

The Korean film that, like, once swept the Oscars.

[Erickson]

It was good.

[Parks]

That's the last movie I snuck into.

[Erickson]

But yeah, number one.

[Melissa Ford]

Dark Knight is number 28.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Erickson]

Where's. Like.

[Joe Budden]

Is that Dallas Buyers Club on?

[Melissa Ford]

Anyway, so hold on, let me find out.

[Joe Budden]

Island.

[Parks]

Yeah. No, Shutter island was.

[Joe Budden]

Excuse me.

[Erickson]

The Departed. Where's it like.

[Parks]

Where's Departed was Fire. I wouldn't.

[Erickson]

It wasn't top 25.

[Joe Budden]

Great movie. The town better be on this list somewhere, too.

[Melissa Ford]

Christopher Nolan, inception. Number 55.

[Joe Budden]

Damn.

[Melissa Ford]

Which is crazy that it's.

[Joe Budden]

Inception was the other one. I was gonna say Interstellar. Inception.

[Erickson]

That's high.

[Parks]

I loved Inception.

[Erickson]

Had to watch inception, like, four times.

[Melissa Ford]

12 years.

[Erickson]

Still arguing over the end of Inception.

[Melissa Ford]

Oppenheimer was number 65. Gone Girl was number 64.

[Joe Budden]

You better believe it.

[Erickson]

You know that.

[Joe Budden]

You know, personally, a little too low on the list. We'll take it. We'll. We'll take it.

[Melissa Ford]

Kill Bill, volume one was number 61 for sure. Spotlight, which is one of my favorite movies, was number 66. You guys familiar with that?

[Parks]

I don't know if I.

[Melissa Ford]

It's about the. The Catholic Church and the. The Boston Globe doing their expose on. Yeah, with What's His Name with Rich Rachel McAdams and Michael Keaton and. What's the other one's name? Mark Ruffalo. Excellent.

[Erickson]

The Hulk in there.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay. Did you lose? All right. Ocean's 11 is number 71.

[Parks]

I wasn't the hugest. Oceans.

[Joe Budden]

Ocean's 11 is like Star Wars. Like I like oceans. 11 had a spark when you started.

[Erickson]

None of them was garbage. I don't know about them being the top.

[Joe Budden]

None of them was great. The cast and the acting and the writing. Like, other than that, the movie was. Oh, it's the bank. I can name a few other bank robbery movies that maybe beat it. Yeah.

[Ish]

No, you can't.

[Parks]

Dog Death.

[Joe Budden]

New.

[Melissa Ford]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

If I sit here and walk it out.

[Melissa Ford]

I haven't seen it.

[Erickson]

Yeah. I was he.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

Anchorman. The Legend of Ron Burgundy.

[Parks]

Where Step Brothers at?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

Now we talking.

[Melissa Ford]

What number 81 is Black Swan. And I found interesting.

[Erickson]

Dodgeball is Step Brothers is not up there.

[Parks]

Talladega Nights.

[Joe Budden]

Go ahead.

[Melissa Ford]

Interstellar is number 89.

[Erickson]

That's true.

[Melissa Ford]

No, that's so low.

[Parks]

One of the hangover. The first thing first hangover.

[Erickson]

That's horrible. That's hard. 89. 89.

[Melissa Ford]

So I'm gonna read 191.

[Joe Budden]

All right.

[Melissa Ford]

Number 100 was super bad.

[Joe Budden]

That's just what I was waiting for. I was just waiting for.

[Melissa Ford]

Because there might be some ass.

[Erickson]

Should have made the list. I'm not.

[Parks]

I think when you're done with this, you should do.

[Melissa Ford]

There's crazy in here.

[Ish]

Should keep going, too.

[Melissa Ford]

Do you not want to do it?

[Joe Budden]

I want to hear it.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

This is so informative.

[Melissa Ford]

You know what? That's it done.

[Joe Budden]

I want to read just one so quick.

[Ish]

100 super bad.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay. 100 super bad bad. 99 is memories of murder. 98. Grizzly man. I even know what the that is. 97. Gravity number six. Black panther. 96. Yes. 95. The worst person in the world.

[Joe Budden]

Don't know what the White Panther drop.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

It better be some more Marvel movies ahead of 94.

[Melissa Ford]

Minority Report, 93. Michael Clayton, 92. Gladiator and 91. Fish Tank.

[Joe Budden]

That movie.

[Erickson]

Number two. Number one and two was what?

[Ish]

90. 91.

[Melissa Ford]

Parasite. Number two was Mulholland Drive. Number one was Parasite.

[Erickson]

I meant 91 and 92. I'm sorry.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, nine.

[Joe Budden]

You're getting old.

[Melissa Ford]

I mention 92 was Gladiator and 91 was Fish Tank.

[Joe Budden]

Gladiator.

[Erickson]

Should be glad Citizen ain't up there.

[Melissa Ford]

No.

[Joe Budden]

No.

[Parks]

What do you want Pelham123 on there too?

[Erickson]

Some of that.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, don't play with Low Body Citizen like that. That's hilarious.

[Erickson]

What you say?

[Joe Budden]

Those movies should be later on.

[Parks]

You 123.

[Joe Budden]

He want money dragging up there.

[Erickson]

And Gladiator need to be way higher.

[Parks]

Gladiator is a group.

[Erickson]

Way higher protest. It is good.

[Parks]

Streets good.

[Melissa Ford]

They don't have the hangover, but they have bridesmaids.

[Joe Budden]

As they should.

[Melissa Ford]

Bridesmaids was number 32.

[Parks]

Wooden crashers that wasn't.

[Erickson]

I'm saying Step brother's not being up there as a Travis Classic movie, bro.

[Joe Budden]

That list was great, you guys.

[Melissa Ford]

Dark Knight was number 28.

[Ish]

All right. We read that. We got it, man. That's a break.

[Parks]

While you're in there, look up the Indiana Jones.

[Joe Budden]

Make some noise. Make some noise.

[Melissa Ford]

Shut up.

[Parks]

So we did it. So informative.

[Ish]

She kept going. She's never returned to one.

[Joe Budden]

I wonder what was 110 to 101, though. For real.

[Parks]

I think we actually got to get to it.

[Erickson]

I need to know.

[Joe Budden]

He'Ll move it on.

[Erickson]

Y' all are bad.

[Joe Budden]

Y' all are killing. I don't. Let me see, let me see, let me see, let me see. Anything else up there?

[Parks]

You got to start watching Love Island.

[Joe Budden]

I plan on. I'm waiting for my girl, though. So you can do this remote where you.

[Parks]

You know what I mean?

[Ish]

Hey, hold on real quick.

[Joe Budden]

Might as well check me into a home. If I'm start doing that. I want to have a little bit of sauce left.

[Erickson]

Use your apple. She can see you watching it.

[Joe Budden]

She can see everything. She's the allseeing eye. What up?

[Ish]

Who's Man Mandami Beat Cuomo, right? Did you expect that? Like, I don't know.

[Parks]

That was crazy. Yeah, that's our political cycle.

[Ish]

No, I don't know anything about it. No, I don't know what that is. I don't know anything about it.

[Erickson]

Mother worked for the mayor's office. Yeah, that's right. Let me get his off.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

More than 20 years, but, yeah, I'm.

[Joe Budden]

Shutting up right now.

[Ish]

I don't know anything about it. I just saw that he won.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't know I hired somebody for this.

[Ish]

Yeah, he's not here. I said we'll wait. We'll wait.

[Joe Budden]

They think I can't read big letters. Mandavi beats Cuomo.

[Erickson]

Hey, and then.

[Joe Budden]

Look, all right, look.

[Parks]

Take it away.

[Ish]

We wait till the og.

[Joe Budden]

No, we can kick it a little bit. Mark, that shocked me.

[Parks]

I was shocked.

[Erickson]

I was shocked about politics.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, I don't have a boat in New York, so y' all was kicking my Ass. About my opinion. Like, apparently New York has a real disdain for Cuomo that I was unaware of.

[Parks]

Yeah, for sure.

[Erickson]

Well, he didn't beat him by much.

[Joe Budden]

He beat him.

[Parks]

It was. I was surprised by where he beat him. He beat him all throughout Midtown, downtown, Astoria, Williamsburg, all the places with bread.

[Erickson]

No, that's. But it's progressive.

[Parks]

I don't care. Usually people with money are not necessarily the biggest on socialism, but a lot.

[Erickson]

Of those younger areas with these younger people that got bread, and I don't think it's. They be looking for a change. A lot of them be looking for a change.

[Melissa Ford]

There's a lot of old money in Manhattan. You're a trip.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

That's why it was shocking that Cuomo lost the way he did. Yeah. Because he had all of them backing him.

[Parks]

I was shocked by where he lost. For me, that was the biggest thing for me. And I mean, Mandami's 33, very young.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Let me get the round of applause.

[Parks]

I've seen him on the grind for a long time. At least he's lived in Astoria. He's been running around Astoria with the old school. The truck with the horn on the top, yelling out. The truck shout out to him. I found out we're birthday twins.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay.

[Parks]

So.

[Erickson]

Okay, look at that.

[Parks]

Just looked it up. It had his birthday right there. I was like, oh, no.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, we're birthday twins. We're alike.

[Parks]

Who? I don't think we're like. But salute. I was shocked.

[Joe Budden]

I might move to New York just to vote against Eric Adams.

[Ish]

So how's every Adams looking?

[Joe Budden]

I ain't gonna lie to you. I might. I might move out there just to vote against him.

[Ish]

How's it looking? He's running what?

[Parks]

Independent.

[Joe Budden]

It's over. It's over. It's over.

[Ish]

Is over. Adams.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, it's over. Yeah, it's over. Again. I don't have a vote in New York. Maybe I'm out of time. It's over. Eric Adams is arguably the worst mayor in New York. New York's history. Yes. Yeah. Get him the out.

[Parks]

I'm sure there's been worse.

[Erickson]

I'm trying to think.

[Joe Budden]

And I ain't sure. I ain't sure.

[Ish]

They said you want to go to was the best.

[Joe Budden]

What?

[Ish]

That's what I heard.

[Joe Budden]

I was about to say, unless you want to start talking Giuliani.

[Parks]

Right.

[Joe Budden]

But Giuliani was a mess.

[Erickson]

But that depends. But that depends on who you ask.

[Melissa Ford]

Can I play something?

[Ish]

Cause I had this conversation with my mom a lot. Giuliani cleaned Up New York City. So when you say that he's the worst, you can't say he's the worst because of his stance. Today we're talking about his run of his run during his.

[Erickson]

That's why I'm saying it depends on who you ask. Would you remember before Giuliani came to New York, bro? 42nd street used to be the trick spot. It used to be a lot of shit going on in midtown Manhattan that does not exist anymore as a result of Giuliani. But he still was stopping Frisk and all these other things. So it depends on who you are.

[Joe Budden]

I got it.

[Ish]

I see what you're saying.

[Erickson]

You know what I'm saying.

[Melissa Ford]

Let me play something that Eric Adams had to say recently, like today.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, please.

[Parks]

This would be so informative.

[Ish]

You just say you don't like.

[Melissa Ford]

That's all you fucking want, you fucks.

[Joe Budden]

No, Mel's helping me produce. I love this. She.

[Erickson]

This is a biblical moment.

[Joe Budden]

You know, Jesus was on the cross.

[Erickson]

He said, God, forgive them, for they know not what they do.

[Ish]

Oh, she talking to you?

[Joe Budden]

All these Negroes were asking me to step down. God forgive me.

[Erickson]

Hold us.

[Ish]

Old.

[Joe Budden]

What's old song, man.

[Melissa Ford]

Is it old?

[Joe Budden]

Old?

[Erickson]

It's old. We played this and clowned it up here before.

[Ish]

That's.

[Joe Budden]

Can you give me the quarterback? Don't give me the cord back.

[Erickson]

This is still funny, though.

[Joe Budden]

Don't ask for it again, okay? Don't ask for this chord for the rest of the list. Okay? Biblical moments is still funny.

[Erickson]

This shit's still funny.

[Parks]

Mel, you on Facebook.

[Joe Budden]

Aren't you the worst?

[Melissa Ford]

I am not on Facebook.

[Joe Budden]

Mel's on Facebook.

[Melissa Ford]

I hate Facebook.

[Erickson]

More on Facebook, Nigga, yes.

[Ish]

Yeah, that tracks.

[Melissa Ford]

That tracks. I hate Facebook. I hate it. It's not easy to navigate.

[Joe Budden]

Create a page, though.

[Melissa Ford]

I have one.

[Joe Budden]

Use it.

[Ish]

I do.

[Melissa Ford]

I mean, I have somebody else using it for me.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, you got that person controlling all of your social.

[Melissa Ford]

No, not that. No, no, I've got.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, they controlling.

[Erickson]

Not that one.

[Joe Budden]

Can't get that one, big man.

[Ish]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, yo, Mel. Guess who wrote you.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, we need to stay out of our business.

[Ish]

The Daryl Strawberry. He did what?

[Joe Budden]

What is the Strawberry?

[Ish]

That was Strawberry. His inbox.

[Joe Budden]

You.

[Ish]

You so smell. So let me see.

[Joe Budden]

Send me a screenshot. No. What's wrong with you?

[Ish]

Get down with strawberries.

[Melissa Ford]

Where did you come up with that name?

[Ish]

I heard he was killing it back in the days.

[Joe Budden]

Don't play with him. What? Oh, my Lord. They argue for that.

[Erickson]

Him and Doc Good. What? And Them had Yayo. They definitely had.

[Joe Budden]

What?

[Erickson]

Yeah, smoking them.

[Ish]

Hey, yo, Joe, man. B, Simone heard what you said, man. She started trolling after the backlash.

[Melissa Ford]

She got backlash from everybody.

[Ish]

Wasn't this my man? My man put on a clinic. Yo, best friend.

[Joe Budden]

And on the playback, I was more passionate than I needed to be on the topic.

[Ish]

Shocked the out of me. I thought you tried to hire her. She dubbed us.

[Joe Budden]

Doing some performative. But on the playback, this was like, you're not afraid? Like, shut the up. I don't care. I don't care. I knew it was bad when Sin hit me like, yo, yo, why you wild on my girl? I was like, oh.

[Erickson]

That'S funny.

[Joe Budden]

I forgot Jaws first. Oh, my God. Anyway, yeah, be Simone's a nut. I double down in what the I said. But my tone was. My tone was a lot.

[Ish]

You can't say that.

[Joe Budden]

I do want to slow down.

[Erickson]

Yes, I can.

[Joe Budden]

That girl's a nutcase. But my tone was a lot, so. And I get it. I'm a nutcase too, sometimes. But I don't identify with her brand of nutcase.

[Ish]

But you also said that when she's focused, she's likable. You said that in the same sentence.

[Joe Budden]

Like, oh, then that was a mistake. I can't speak to that. I don't. I don't know.

[Ish]

You said that. Yo, she had some likable moments.

[Joe Budden]

She could be very. Oh, she has a fan base. I don't know if she's likable. Got it.

[Ish]

That's what you're saying.

[Joe Budden]

She could be unlikable. I don't know. Anytime that crew wanted to go to the diner, I went home. I'm not going to all diner links when y' all just get to inviting people because we in the same spot, and the diner's right up the street. Oh, my God. Everybody, come on, let's go. Let's get tape.

[Erickson]

Table for 14.

[Ish]

The diner.

[Erickson]

It'll be so much fun. Nah, they still go to diners.

[Ish]

It's some.

[Parks]

I love diners.

[Ish]

Do some research on this. You got too much passion with that. She tried to go to diner back in days when you was with Sin.

[Joe Budden]

No, I'm saying to the diner.

[Ish]

You check that?

[Joe Budden]

No, sorry. Just. Sorry.

[Ish]

Back in the day, just.

[Joe Budden]

I just. Would I be at the diner? Would be Simone. No, thank you.

[Ish]

But you would be at a diner, wouldn't you? Diner was lit up there.

[Joe Budden]

Jersey is the diner capital. I say Jersey is the capital of mad. Ain't we the diner capital?

[Erickson]

Yes. Yes.

[Joe Budden]

We don't know.

[Erickson]

No, we don't care. I'm saying it anyway.

[Joe Budden]

Yes. Yeah, yeah. Hey. Yeah, we are actually there.

[Ish]

The food out here is not too.

[Joe Budden]

Good, but fans gonna be loving. No, you're not. Denver.

[Ish]

The food in Jersey's trash, bro.

[Joe Budden]

Excuse me.

[Ish]

Diner food is good.

[Joe Budden]

The food in Jersey better than New York. Ish.

[Parks]

It's not better than New York.

[Joe Budden]

I just got to go look at topics.

[Ish]

It's not right.

[Melissa Ford]

That was what diner?

[Joe Budden]

Wait, you talking food? Mel and Corey this time when I ordered a 5050 firecracker with fried shrimp and calamari. Can I have some? Cuz I ordered two last time. One for y' all to bust down and one for me. And y' all two get to digging in a bag and can. So can you at least save me some if I order two?

[Melissa Ford]

I had five pieces.

[Joe Budden]

Mel, you're a liar. Stop. Mel, you are a liar.

[Melissa Ford]

No, I'm not.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God.

[Melissa Ford]

The salad was huge. And I had your fries, which you didn't want, so you know. I had juice.

[Ish]

She's so boy. Look, while she's talking, she's looking at his phone to see what he's ordering.

[Melissa Ford]

I am, I am, I am.

[Ish]

He's so greedy.

[Melissa Ford]

I want him to.

[Ish]

Yeah, you want the Bach?

[Melissa Ford]

I. I only had. I had four shrimps and one piece of cauliflower.

[Parks]

You did not count your shrimps.

[Melissa Ford]

I did.

[Parks]

You did not count your shrimps. I refuse to believe.

[Melissa Ford]

Cuz I had shrimp in my salad.

[Parks]

No one counts their shrimps.

[Melissa Ford]

I did.

[Erickson]

And I said.

[Melissa Ford]

What?

[Parks]

Bish was counting your shirts. That I actually believe.

[Erickson]

Really good, D. Great tea. She's amazing.

[Melissa Ford]

And we split Joe's fries.

[Erickson]

Oh, yo, we couldn't come out. Three fries. I had three. She said we split a hold. Now we count fries. I don't even eat fries like that.

[Parks]

She said we smell for real these podcasts.

[Erickson]

Yo, dog, we caught, yo.

[Joe Budden]

We caught.

[Erickson]

We are caught. Give them under the car. It's a rat. Yo, come out from behind the building on the left, bro.

[Parks]

Notice ever sat in front of a plate of fried food.

[Ish]

And I think that's. I mean, think. Yeah, he does that, though. But don't y' all think that's rude to just go food. He don't care. I watch this. Watch.

[Erickson]

He going food.

[Ish]

Yeah, I watch this. Just go with food. He made it.

[Erickson]

Comfortable. It's good for that, too. She can't be. She can't be worse than Joe. Joe bad at it, though.

[Ish]

Joe made it comfortable to go in food.

[Joe Budden]

If. If I do that it's somebody I rock with, so I don't expect. I'm going just take a quick fork while you. I'm not going to go behind your back digging there. So you ain't got no food. And when I order, I'm going order a bunch of so. Yeah, how about that? But this.

[Ish]

She wants you to hand her the phone so you can order.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not handing Mel. After she barked to me earlier and did that trauma reverse.

[Melissa Ford]

It's okay. He's probably going to order something. I want to eat anyways.

[Joe Budden]

I'll pass you the phone.

[Ish]

She said that you can put it out through three racks. Three racks. Boy, I want to see that.

[Joe Budden]

She love that trauma.

[Erickson]

I'm feeling traumatized just selling the trauma.

[Joe Budden]

Look, she traumatized again.

[Ish]

All right, hold on, hold on real quick. Sorry. Just want to acknowledge that we noticed that you trying to buy us a lot every now you trying to buy everybody food. This your new bag. Even though you do it like now, you letting us get orders. And it feels good. I ain't gonna lie. I thought about it at home. Like, damn, my man is good. But don't think. You don't think.

[Melissa Ford]

Don't think it up.

[Joe Budden]

Saying it up.

[Ish]

Okay. Is this his bag? Clean me up. All right. I just felt good about it. Like, damn, man. My man buying lunch for you, you.

[Joe Budden]

Know, I mean, there's no new behavior happening because of that LE leak. I'm the same me. Flip. Okay?

[Ish]

I'm just. Sorry, Joe.

[Joe Budden]

I just want to make sure food before.

[Ish]

I didn't hear it. It didn't say nothing. I gotta tell you. You his oldest friend. I gotta tell you.

[Erickson]

How do I get in this nonsense, Yo?

[Joe Budden]

And no, he ain't.

[Erickson]

No, I'm not.

[Joe Budden]

Who just met this in 08?

[Ish]

Who would be your oldest friend here?

[Joe Budden]

I don't know. I don't keep counting the guy. He friends. Oldest friend.

[Ish]

Oh, you was doing that.

[Joe Budden]

That's what the league do. I don't have any friends.

[Erickson]

Business associates.

[Parks]

Hey, don't worry.

[Joe Budden]

It's gonna happen to y' all, too. You're gonna turn your back on quite a few folks.

[Ish]

Stop it.

[Joe Budden]

I'm joking.

[Erickson]

Stop.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, I'm joking.

[Erickson]

I don't see what he's saying that.

[Joe Budden]

Is Joe a joke?

[Ish]

Don't call my man a name.

[Joe Budden]

No, I'm about to play some music. Hold up. Got to get that feeling.

[Ish]

Got to restore that freeze.

[Joe Budden]

All right. I'm playing a song by the artist Big Jersey. Great project. Shout out to her. This record is called Red Light. Special featuring C. Let's go.

[Erickson]

Gravity. I was going to play Gravity.

[Joe Budden]

Never, never, never. Pretty back out. Nice face, nice smile not the time to get around Made one call and touch down Contemplating whereabouts you care about your past now you pick the place I hold it down I'mma make it wizard word well baby your body's good love I should be taking it slow you can deny it but I kind of like it it's making me want to see where it goes Give me your kind of love don't think about it, don't worry about it Never got to do too much, never got to say too much Never got to do so much baby all day, all day Let me take my time Let me make you mine and show you really know what to do with it say it's for life right? Say you ain't got no type but somehow the right type your plan on give me the world might as well leave me alone Said I like it and love it the thing that you do what you doing? Snatching myself your touch for me the way that you for me Flip me in every way show me you ready B I'll be your personal freak It's a pretty soul snatcher in love with.

[Melissa Ford]

A chopper boy Break me down like.

[Joe Budden]

A key and whenever I want it he making it happen don't pull up, get nasty for me Never got to do too much never got to say too much that is brand new music from the artist. That record is called Red Light Special, available in your phone and on DSPS right now. Featuring Cali. Shout out to Cali. And the name of that project is called who I am Again. Really Fire Project. Big Jersey. Shout out to the artist. Salute.

[Erickson]

Big Jersey. All right, so I'm gonna play a sleeper since a lot of y' all were acting like Malice is just now popping back up with the Ace Trumpets record. And I was telling y' all that he's been doing this for a minute now. So this is I pray for you clips. Push a T and Malice off. This came out in 2022. Pray for the one who will betray me again Pray for the killers, I pray for the saints Please pray for.

[Joe Budden]

Me now Cause I pray for you.

[Erickson]

I pray for you.

[Joe Budden]

I pray for.

[Erickson]

You.

[Joe Budden]

I pray for you.

[Erickson]

Pray for.

[Joe Budden]

You.

[Corey]

Rarely do you see the phoenix rise from the ashes Lightning struck twice on four Classics. Self preservation we separate ourselves from the plastic the ankle of my sweat still elastic, still do gymnastics if home still forever young Then I'm a somersault backwards through these chapters Land in the soft White Cook it till it's off White they questioning my scorecard hold it to a torchlight I hid it in the porch light See I had the foresight my 911 was pulling up to matching Porsche night Ooh. The married drug dealer even named my son Bricks he raps what he lives so the nanny gon sit it's the grown man in me searching for the plug that's the nomad in me still the X factor that's the role hand in me reluctantly A role model that drowned in too many gold bottles Harold Melvin without the blue Note the past 10 years screaming UNO and sidestep back into the duo the kings of the Pyrex I'm my brother's keeper if you listen and you dissect All I talk is money if you listen to my dialect Bitch I shot grinding in my mama's mama's projects I'm just being honest with you. How is that for context?

[Ish]

You can live forever when the shit.

[Corey]

You write is timeless we gonna live forever? Cause the shit we write is time Tell me what I missed New designer drugs and emotions I don't get I don't Hellcat still paddle when I shift Vietnam flashbacks I get triggered by a sniff Today's top five's only strengthening my myth belong on Rushmore just from chiseling a brick still fighting demons See that curse is now my gift seekers die with me that's as deep as the abyss that is no coincidence When I was in the mix Opened up your nose like I'm cutting it with Vicks Slaving over stoves like I rubbed together sticks Paved another road so my soul will coexist but heaven only knows I will dig another ditch In a suit and tie like you Putting on the wrist Three record deals show me ignorance was bliss Trying to milk a game that is only 2% X told you hell is hot I told you repent Faith never wavered as I walked along the fence Faith moves mountain so what are you up against? Watch my brother round you I know he pretends I greet you with the love of God that'll make us friends I might whisper in his ear Bury all of them Light another tiki torch and carry it again Back up on my high horses chariots again Put the ring back on a finger Marry it.

[Joe Budden]

Again.

[Erickson]

And again that record is I pray for you.

[Joe Budden]

It's.

[Erickson]

It's a sleeper. Because apparently y' all have been sleeping on what malice has still been doing. So.

[Parks]

Fair enough.

[Erickson]

And they'll be back in two weeks.

[Parks]

Two weeks. Can't wait. I am going to South Carolina. This is Nick Grant. It ain't personal.

[Corey]

Yeah, yeah All I ever wanted was a Rockefeller chain in the cosign All I got was trying to pull my people out the dope house this the life I know about Quick as the liquor store route like a buzzing rapper this pistol will kick your door down soon as I finish squeezing Scream everything is a rollout Couldn't see I was right but it's like I'm Stevie at Motown Shane Dirty lowdown will come round, go round Keep a fire stick for a watching my program I was 17 in my Nova bumping the snowman pill press a kicking out bite like it's some toe jam Never chase the you never bow down to no man Red and white chevelle look like I sponsor the coke brand gave the game a hall but I rarely believed in romance Training day Denzel got money under the flow plan that's my neighborhood them love me like the dope man you ain't never listen to my that's your bad five star flow yeah I'm the king of the notepad Even on your bitch they'll raise the stick like the slow dance I'm from where them niggas be robbing to get the dough back from where the dope fiend soundtrack is Bobby Womack know that I just tell them keep the faith when you got no money all of them bitches play keep away paper chase and get the bread as long as we feed the safe it's gonna be all right we draw down on you like anime hey spent my whole life trying to come up on these dreams Looking at the game man this ain't what it seems I'm looking at the game man this ain't what it seems I'm looking at the game no longer personal.

[Joe Budden]

To me.

[Corey]

Yeah this no longer personal.

[Big Jersey]

To me.

[Corey]

Tell me how to fuck all you fake better than all you wish I was active in the 90s ain't no competition you gonna think dress cold how they tuck they tension from where they knock your brains loose Boy the game is senseless from shaking hands with Jigga to nah saying I'm the illest from where them niggas multiply this back with they gremlins swimming in money My squad got different strokes but if it ain't got no money what you talking about Willis I'm back no top bridges this dope audio too we top billing they gon let me cook we bubble fresh out the kitchen I bubble back like cellulite key On I had to ratchet like when your wifey caught you with mistress top record flow my should be in Guinness and imma keep balling like Kobe Torres Achilles never seen defeat but still standing on business geeking on you niggas like Urkel with the suspenders Came for the money but know that we back for interest Traces of HOV and got some remnants of Biggie All I see's a real nigga when I'm in the mirror ain't nobody realr you know I raised not sounds like a child and take a village how I'm shooting through the scope you think a filming the flow keep running out pure it ain't no filter a take me for a joke I played a villain spent my whole life trying to come up on these dreams Looking at the game man this ain't what it seems I'm looking at the game man this ain't what it seems I'm looking at the game no longer personal to.

[Joe Budden]

Me.

[Parks]

As Negran it ain't personal. Shout out to Nick, man.

[Erickson]

I'm going back to it's an older song. Gentleman's name is Elijah Waters and the song is Lose Control.

[Parks]

Rock Band.

[Ish]

I lost my mind one time and now I never show to the places that I know it's not the same I need a I cannot breathe, I cannot see My eyes are be I don't reach out, I don't got reasons I don't see I've been inside looking for ways to say I can't make it it's way too much B that I took it now I can't take it Take me by the can you make me understand can you take me back to earth? Can you show me what it's worth? Can you make me go first? You don't break my heart, touch my soul take it on, let it go Lose it all, lose control lose it.

[Joe Budden]

All, lose control lose control, lose control.

[Ish]

It'S hard to see it doesn't matter when it's animated Afraid to lose it I'm come through I can't move on I, I can't control it how I betray she broke my heart and stepped upon it and she's still my favorite I'm not safe it's coming at all time fast pace it follows me outside full force go finally open when I close the door Break my heart, touch my soul take it all, let it.

[Joe Budden]

Go oh, that's Elijah Waters.

[Parks]

Lose control that's fire A little alternative rock vibe. Melissa Ford, you. You gonna join us?

[Melissa Ford]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

I'm sorry.

[Melissa Ford]

Mine is called Gemini by Mar.

[Joe Budden]

St. In the cycle of. Yeah. I'm going back and forth like, do you love me? Love you all now. And all we know is made.

[Erickson]

This makes sense.

[Joe Budden]

We do this like everything.

[Erickson]

Me.

[Joe Budden]

It's fire. And that's the last of it.

[Parks]

That was Marais. Gemini.

[Joe Budden]

That was heat.

[Parks]

That was dope.

[Joe Budden]

That was fire. Mello's got some alternative heat. No, I did it. I fixed it. Is there anything else that we are forgetting?

[Parks]

I don't believe so.

[Ish]

Yo, man, what are you looking?

[Parks]

We'll really unpack that XXL freshman list at a later date.

[Joe Budden]

No, go ahead. Don't do that. Come on. Get your off. I don't want to step on that. These are people that are excited about being on that cover. It. It don't matter that I'm old and don't know nothing. Please, please.

[Erickson]

Actually, you do know some of them.

[Parks]

You know a couple of them.

[Ish]

Let's do it.

[Parks]

Jello's on there.

[Erickson]

The kid Ray Von is on there.

[Parks]

Ray Von is on there. Salute.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, go. Congrats.

[Parks]

Samara Sin is on there. Salute. Cardo's doing all the beats. That's dope. Actually, a couple of these people I don't know as well, but I guess we'll. We'll get familiar with them. Nino Paid Low Shimmy E Tripling Baby chief do it. 1900 rugrat. I don't know these people. Salute.

[Erickson]

I know a couple up here, but.

[Parks]

I'm happy for everybody.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

Yeah, we old man.

[Ish]

Wow.

[Melissa Ford]

Those names are gonna stand the test of time, huh?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

1900 rumble.

[Parks]

One day we're gonna be looking back at this video like, man. 1900 rugrats. We thought it was silly back then, but.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I don't have anything else that is.

[Parks]

I'm happy that at least this year there's some people that we are familiar with. There's been a long string of.

[Erickson]

It was like, I haven't heard. I'm not even familiar. Haven't heard these names ever correct. Like, not even. I don't know your songs. But some of these from a couple years ago, it's been like, yo, I'm out of it.

[Parks]

Didn't know any of them.

[Erickson]

Yeah. The entire list.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

So we played some of these records up here. So this is cool.

[Joe Budden]

Nah, it's good. Anytime you are discovering new acts or helping new acts get discovered, it's all the way fire. But after hearing y' all read the list, it does beg the question, like how. How much money could double xl, say by just ending itself As a publication.

[Parks]

I didn't know there.

[Joe Budden]

If XXL just ceased to exist, I wonder how much money would be saved. Like you think A little bit. Like they ain't got to keep wasting.

[Parks]

People'S time trying to get under Elon.

[Joe Budden]

Shit. Hey, double xl. Go ahead. Go ahead on, man. Go ahead on. It's okay. It is okay.

[Parks]

You could let on the radar and then hold it down.

[Erickson]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Joe Budden]

You had a great run. Yeah, you had a great run. Like, y' all still tricking these young acts into thinking that you all matter and you don't.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, wow.

[Joe Budden]

I'm sorry. I don't care what they gonna do. What are you gonna do?

[Erickson]

Lady don't like you now, bro.

[Joe Budden]

Who? Vanessa? I don't know if Vanessa's still editing over there. Shout out to her. I like Vanessa. I like people even if they don't like me.

[Erickson]

Especially when you give them a reason not to like you.

[Joe Budden]

Nori said he on his way over here.

[Parks]

That's what's up.

[Joe Budden]

That's what's up, patronies.

[Parks]

Tune in.

[Joe Budden]

Bottom of some things for the audience. I hate to end this episode this way, but I do have good news and bad news for y' all. So even though you're not here, I'll ask y' all, which news do you want first?

[Parks]

Always leave with the bad.

[Joe Budden]

Always go with the course. You want the bad news. So we're approaching the end of June, and after much consideration and a lot of conversations and emails, the owner of this beautiful establishment has decided to terminate the lease here. So.

[Parks]

Damn. Damn, what a run. What a run.

[Erickson]

Yeah, but what's the good news, though? Hold on now.

[Corey]

I knew it.

[Joe Budden]

My son ain't playing with the good news.

[Melissa Ford]

He bought it.

[Joe Budden]

We decided we going to stay right here. Hey, guess what, audience? Don't fret. I mean, hey, we ain't going nowhere. I mean, they wanted us to not have a little lay at the city. The city line in the background. They wanted us to not have the water in the background. They in these podcast group chats talking. Guess what, audience?

[Ish]

I don't feel like moving.

[Joe Budden]

Don't feel like calling the movie company. Is they talking about can't terminate the lease?

[Erickson]

What, you own it?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. What the is going on out here, man? Big mail. Don't worry about. In about two weeks, man, we gonna pop some. Some champagne or some sparkling cider or something like that. God is good. All the time and all the time. Amen. Amen. Big, big man. They tried us, man, but God is good. My God don't play about me at all. Not at all.

[Erickson]

Wow.

[Joe Budden]

How you feeling, Mel? You ain't want to move. You ain't want to have to call that moving company again. I want that. You scammed. We had to call them back.

[Melissa Ford]

I saved the.

[Ish]

You said that just now.

[Erickson]

Hold up.

[Ish]

What you say like this, I'm about.

[Erickson]

To lose my job.

[Melissa Ford]

No, not that. Hey, every sign.

[Ish]

Wait, hold up.

[Joe Budden]

But if you sizzle for a long time too, they can't get rid of you. You got some of the fan base thinking I was about to fire you. Because last part you're like, ah, my job was in jeopardy. I was about to lose my job.

[Ish]

Well, it was.

[Joe Budden]

That was a freestyle. That's something you and Flip made up.

[Ish]

I record. I recorded you.

[Joe Budden]

She has never heard anything from me to say that her job was in jeopardy. Never. She has never heard any of that yet. Out of here.

[Melissa Ford]

Put some pressure on that.

[Joe Budden]

No, I'll turn this off. I'll find a little outro song. I just wanted to talk some.

[Ish]

That's what's up. Congratulations.

[Melissa Ford]

Congratulations.

[Erickson]

Congratulations.

[Ish]

Oh, that's what?

[Joe Budden]

Another one, another one, another one. Good pod today, y' all.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, great pod.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Hey, we keep buying like this. I'm at just building.

[Ish]

I'm gonna say that the building a lot here.

[Erickson]

How many units the in this building?

[Joe Budden]

I don't know. I don't know. Uhoh. Let's go, let's go. Yo, don't let my man get involved. Don't let me and my man get on the s cord. Hold up and it be like Idris and what's the name in the wire? Boy, stop playing. Don't play with us now.

[Parks]

Which one's Idris?

[Joe Budden]

Idris is in school.

[Parks]

Idris.

[Joe Budden]

Idris. Idris. Idris. Good, Paul, man. Hopefully y' all enjoyed this broadcast as much as we enjoy delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time we bid you adieu. Farewell. Adios. Arrivederchi. Hasta la vista. Au revoir. So long, goodbye. A simple head nod will suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments. And moments pass. So let's make each one last as if it's all we have. And lastly, the baddies are insecure and hungry in the summertime. You know them hoes want to eat something. Now that's true. The stagnant women want to travel. And the closed minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you with Tylenol. You might need it. Give me A quick run of what? Everybody we can look like what everybody week? It look like work.

[Melissa Ford]

It's the pride parade.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

Back. Woody, is you getting naturalized gonna interfere with that?

[Melissa Ford]

No.

[Joe Budden]

Can you go or is this like the protest?

[Melissa Ford]

I can go because I'm gonna be hanging out on my friend's balcony, so I'm gonna be able to watch the parade from the safety of his apartment.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, you was begging again. All right, never mind.

[Melissa Ford]

It was an invite.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, you can hear. You can hear the begging now. My friend's balcony is right there. It's hiding Times Square. He said I can check stay. I pass days. You bring a days flip. You said you working, right?

[Ish]

Yes, I'm going to the property, but I'm not going. But I'm sending some flip.

[Joe Budden]

Are there more flip the network people that need to meet their dad.

[Ish]

There's a lot of people that need to meet their dad.

[Joe Budden]

You bringing a lot of people to meet their dad. And it's some of the best content I've ever scene. What is wrong with you? Y' all don't know. Yo, if your dad is able and alive, man, go ring his bell with flip, man, and get to the bottom of things.

[Ish]

Thank you, thank you. Thank you, guys.

[Joe Budden]

It's. What you doing, man?

[Ish]

Yeah, you know, nothing, man. I'm just chilling. Cory, Cory, no, Cory, what we doing? Yeah, talking is you get a building here. If you get a place in here, you lit, I'm coming to your crib. Not like this. I'm in your here. I'm sleeping over randomly too.

[Joe Budden]

Is what you on this week?

[Erickson]

You.

[Joe Budden]

Are you going to. Are you going to more cigar lounge events? What are you doing?

[Erickson]

Chilling, bro.

[Joe Budden]

So you're gonna be home all weekend?

[Erickson]

I'm gonna be working.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, life after has the working working.

[Joe Budden]

No, not this week. Not this week. It's next week.

[Ish]

Why the more informed than you, Melly, you be there.

[Melissa Ford]

I mean, he is there more than I am. No, I feel like he might be for real. I don't know. I don't know.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know.

[Melissa Ford]

I thought it was. I thought it was every weekend. I heard it was this weekend.

[Joe Budden]

Well, it's next weekend. Okay, this weekend. They rented it out to next weekend. If cookouts be back. You get your little fast ass out there. Get some catfish, right? You get some catfish. Freeze.

[Erickson]

I'm to going going to jeezy got the TM101 show for the 20th anniversary.

[Ish]

All Black in Jersey.

[Joe Budden]

It's at Apollo Fire.

[Erickson]

So I'll be out there for sure.

[Joe Budden]

Shout out to.

[Erickson]

Shout out to Jeezy. Shout out to drama.

[Joe Budden]

Bring the strap with you. Be careful out there on 25th Street, Piggy.

[Ish]

What you doing, Piggy?

[Parks]

Trying to balance work and outside relationship. You know I want to be outside, but I want to work, too, so I'm going to do both.

[Ish]

Oh, my heart dropped. I said, oh, whoa, whoa.

[Joe Budden]

I'm stepping outside of my relationship.

[Parks]

I'll be stepping outside with my baby.

[Joe Budden]

She found out about that rent going on up, man, these.

[Ish]

My heart dropped.

[Parks]

Sometime I want to be outside, but I got some to do, too, so.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, man, I'm not mad at you.

[Erickson]

Trying to get outside more.

[Joe Budden]

I don't have too much plan, man. I'll be chilling, being faithful, being focused. Faithful and focused. That's it till next time, man. Y' all enjoy your weekend. Hold it down till next time. Remember, if you didn't enjoy this broadcast the way that we enjoyed delivering it to you, it doesn't matter at all. We'll be back same time, same place, next week. But tweet away. I enjoy reading it. Any final words? Final words.

[Ish]

We love y' all.

[Erickson]

We love y' all.

[Ish]

Make sure you pledge Patroni's pledge to see exclusive content. And also, oh, we got a commercial. And also, we dropping some new videos, some exclusive pay per view videos we'll be dropping this weekend. We see you soon. Love you.

[Joe Budden]

We need the harmonica now.

[Ish]

Hey, yo, Mel, can I get a piece of that 3K, girl?

[Joe Budden]

Oh. Male how much? You ain't say how much?

[Melissa Ford]

I told you we'll talk about that off camera.

[Ish]

Can I get a piece? All right, man, that's fine. I advocate for you.

[Joe Budden]

700.

[Ish]

I want 500.

[Joe Budden]

That's all. Give me five. She only getting seven. No, you can't take most of the seven. You're gonna take most of the seven. You really trying to keep 700 in the pool one of these days? Hey, Mel's so easy to get.

[Melissa Ford]

Hey, I don't need you for the pool. Hey, how many people I know in this building?

[Joe Budden]

No, why? Hold up for real?

[Ish]

She went across the hall to a whole different elevator. I never seen.

[Melissa Ford]

I sure did.

[Ish]

It was like this. I wanted to pop on, like, what the.

[Joe Budden]

Are you doing okay?

[Melissa Ford]

I'm surprised you didn't, actually.

[Ish]

No, I respect you.

[Joe Budden]

All right, cool. And once you get kidnapped, I don't want to start to turn on the news and she'd make it sound like it was somebody else fault. You keep wandering and just place it got coerced. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Power down there I work in there. I work in that building. That's it, man. Oh, look at P.O. getting some BTs. Don't talk to us like that again. That was crazy. We asked you to get to bts.

[Ish]

Hey, he.

[Joe Budden]

We don't give a about Ian.

[Erickson]

I ain't no beats Yesterday, we don't.

[Joe Budden]

Care about Ian tomorrow, and we work out together. You wasn't supposed to talk to me like that. That was crazy. You repeated it. Crazy. Nah. Paul was like, nah, not today. Nah. I didn't see the camera out in. All right. Oh, man. Cory, what you doing this week? You're staying single, staying away from them. Yeah, that's right. Protect yourself. You've never heard of Joe, Buddy.