Episode 849 | "Super P" (feat. Offset)

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 849 | "Super P" (feat. Offset) Summary

Release Date: August 6, 2025

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1. Introduction and Welcome

The episode kicks off with Joe Budden welcoming listeners and introducing the main cast, including Melissa Ford, Ish, Flip, Parks, and the special guest, Offset from Migos. The hosts set the tone for an engaging and dynamic discussion filled with personal anecdotes and insightful conversations.

2. Melissa Ford's Movie Experience

Melissa Ford shares her recent experience working on the movie "Red Flags." After filming, she took a relaxing trip to Mexico to recharge before returning to the hectic environment of the podcast.

• Melissa Ford: "Old habits die hard. But, yeah, no recharge, no nothing. It was really difficult." (02:54)

3. Joe Budden at SummerSlam

Joe discusses his attendance at the WWE SummerSlam event, highlighting the electric atmosphere and his interactions backstage. He expresses admiration for the production quality and the dedication of the wrestlers.

• Joe Budden: "The energy in the room was unlike anything I've ever experienced." (22:27)

4. Introduction of Offset and Discussion on His New Album "Kiari"

Offset delves into his latest project, "Kiari," emphasizing introspection and personal growth. He talks about stepping back from constant recording to focus on other business ventures, such as fashion and branding.

• Offset: "This album is about looking in the mirror and focusing on different aspects of myself." (58:22)

a. Themes and Inspirations

Offset explains that "Kiari" is a deep dive into his personal experiences, aiming to reconnect with his love for music while balancing other entrepreneurial pursuits.

• Offset: "I'm treating the studio as a safe space to express freely without distractions." (62:23)

b. Business Ventures Beyond Music

He discusses his investments in fashion, merchandise, and other businesses, highlighting the importance of diversifying his portfolio to maintain focus and passion for his music.

• Offset: "Fashion and music go hand in hand for me. They allow me to express different facets of my creativity." (80:07)

5. Regional Music Trends and Album Reviews

The hosts engage in a conversation about the resurgence of regional music styles, using Metro's album as a focal point. They debate the importance of understanding the cultural context when reviewing music from different regions.

• Joe Budden: "It's irresponsible to judge an album without grasping its cultural background." (44:53)

6. Critique of Modern Music Industry Practices

Offset and the hosts critique the current state of the music industry, emphasizing a preference for authenticity and meaningful storytelling over fleeting trends and streaming numbers.

• Offset: "I'd rather drop a song that resonates deeply than chase numbers that disappear overnight." (82:34)

7. Fashion and Branding with Chrome Hearts

A discussion on the fashion brand Chrome Hearts unfolds, exploring its saturation in the market and its impact on streetwear culture. Offset shares his thoughts on high fashion collaborations and their relevance to the hip-hop community.

• Offset: "Fashion always comes back, and brands like Chrome Hearts savvy in how they maintain their hype." (86:53)

8. Company's Handling of Artist Scandals

The conversation takes a critical turn as the hosts discuss how companies handle scandals involving Black artists. They express concerns about favoritism, accountability, and the broader implications for the community.

• Joe Budden: "When companies cut ties with the most successful Black artists, it sends a troubling message about how they value these creators." (155:35)

9. Personal Anecdotes and Host Interactions

The episode is peppered with light-hearted banter, personal stories, and interactions among the hosts and Offset. This segment adds a layer of authenticity and camaraderie to the conversation.

10. Prize Picks Advertisement

The hosts briefly promote the Prize Picks app, encouraging listeners to participate in daily fantasy sports for a chance to win cash prizes. (Skipped in summary per user instructions)

11. Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts

As the episode winds down, Joe Budden reflects on the discussions held, emphasizing the importance of staying true to one's art and community. The hosts express gratitude towards their listeners and tease upcoming episodes.

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Notable Quotes:

• Joe Budden: "Please don't play with me today. Cause you've been funny since you walked in, and I'm trying to be serious." (05:06)

• Melissa Ford: "Each time I've done a film, I've had the most incredible castmates." (19:20)

• Offset: "Music becomes the soundtrack of your life. I remember where I was the first time I heard you." (84:31)

• Joe Budden: "If you drop a record that resonates, it will have longevity. Don't chase fleeting numbers." (82:34)

• Offset: "I'm treating the studio as a safe space to express freely without distractions." (62:23)

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This episode of The Joe Budden Podcast offers a blend of insightful discussions on music and cultural trends, personal experiences from the hosts, and meaningful interactions with Offset. It underscores the importance of authenticity, community, and the balance between art and entrepreneurship.

Transcript

[Joe Budden]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show.

[Ish]

Damsel in distress. Yo, yo, Joe, look.

[Joe Budden]

All right, let's do it. We're here.

[Ish]

Yo, this was stuck right here.

[Joe Budden]

Look, she could have just moved it over.

[Melissa Ford]

I couldn't.

[Ish]

She said and looked at me and I moved it for her. That shit worked.

[Melissa Ford]

Old habits die hard. I'm sorry.

[Joe Budden]

Well, that supports the theory that I came up with before we started, which was you, Mel's son.

[Melissa Ford]

I don't know. When did.

[Joe Budden]

You are Mel's son. There's nothing wrong with that.

[Ish]

It's not.

[Joe Budden]

But as soon as you came in. And we not hyper focusing on you and Mel, but as soon as you came in, you seen Mel. We happy to see her. She had the board doing her one, two. You like? Oh, shit. Yo, I called you. Yo, please. I can speak to you on the side for a second. Look at him. Sundown. I tried to call her. That's what I'm saying. She can't even do a job. First day back, she gotta step to the side. You're right.

[Melissa Ford]

That's okay, man.

[Joe Budden]

What's up?

[Melissa Ford]

I'm good.

[Joe Budden]

Make some noise for Big Mel.

[Melissa Ford]

Come on.

[Joe Budden]

Welcome back. Welcome back.

[Melissa Ford]

So glad to be back.

[Joe Budden]

Fresh back from the movie set. Or the beach, maybe.

[Parks]

They were filming on the beach.

[Joe Budden]

She done did. Yeah, she done did so much shit. Thank God we made that little change in them contracts.

[Melissa Ford]

Well, yeah. God damn it, that hurt. That motherfucking hurt. But, yeah, no, it was good. It was good. I did the movie, but then I had, like, the weekend, and I just booted over to Mexico just for some sun and relaxation.

[Joe Budden]

Sure, sure.

[Parks]

Just boot right over.

[Melissa Ford]

It's just down the street.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why I love her. Yo, y' all gotta see me when I leave town. I hustle and bustle back to this motherfucker. She's, like, going to Mexico. I'm already out. And what she didn't expect was the movie set. People taking the group pic at the end, saying, hey, we done filming. They was done, like, nine days ago.

[Melissa Ford]

No, they weren't. No, they weren't.

[Joe Budden]

They was done ages ago. I'm looking at the Twitter, like, just fuck it.

[Ish]

She did it again.

[Joe Budden]

She got me again.

[Ish]

She did it again.

[Joe Budden]

No, she didn't give me this time. Cause that little change.

[Melissa Ford]

That's right.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, she could stay away as long as she motherfucking wanna stay. I tell you that.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, yeah, that changed.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I'm happy. You serious? I'm very serious.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah. He's dead ass.

[Joe Budden]

He is.

[Melissa Ford]

He's dead ass.

[Ish]

We feel.

[Joe Budden]

That's. Yeah, he. He.

[Melissa Ford]

That's.

[Joe Budden]

I don't even know what you saying, but I didn't even say a word. I know, but I can hear you.

[Melissa Ford]

I could tell you he's just wondering, does that apply to us? And that swipe of his hand is across the board.

[Joe Budden]

Now you speaking for people. Now you're speaking for people. If Apple.

[Ish]

You know why they laughing? They got the veteran contracts. This shit ain't change.

[Joe Budden]

No, they come to work. Who? Them two? Them three. All right.

[Ish]

That's my man.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, dog.

[Flip]

Stop, stop.

[Joe Budden]

They come to work.

[Ish]

If one of these come to work, me, my nigga.

[Joe Budden]

If one of these niggas don't come.

[Ish]

To work, it's an emergency, do you come to work?

[Melissa Ford]

Yes, that is a fact.

[Joe Budden]

You two niggas, you'll run to Bermuda. You'll go try to save a family in Cincinnati. Introducing chicks to their dad ass. You catch a flight. Tyson Beckford called you two. Y' all don't give a about this the Times. What I'm trying to do? Nothing. What you trying to do is she ran to Mexico.

[Ish]

What you trying to do is.

[Joe Budden]

I was in a movie. I ran to Mexico for some. What did she call it, too? They booted.

[Ish]

Boot over. She said, I booted over to Mexico.

[Joe Budden]

Right down the street. I'm so happy to have you boot over. I can't wait to hear about how the movie went.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

I'm sure you saw the fans missed you as well.

[Flip]

What's the name of the movie?

[Melissa Ford]

It's called Red Flags.

[Ish]

Oh, yeah, I did see that.

[Flip]

Nope.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, shout out to the casting. They casted the. Out of this one.

[Melissa Ford]

Boy, did they ever.

[Joe Budden]

Well, I can't wait to hear all about it. How y' all doing? Y' all cool? Good, man. I'm great. Feeling great. Good, good, good. Happy to see everybody. Yeah. Please don't play with me today. Please don't play with me today. Cause you've been funny since you walked in, and I'm trying to be serious. We got a long day today. I'm trying to be efficient, okay? There's a bunch of niggas coming. I'm trying to raise my. So I charged my Social battery, though.

[Parks]

Oh, that's good.

[Melissa Ford]

Well, who's coming?

[Joe Budden]

Okay. I love Ish. Ish is also one of my favorite people. He's on the group chat I was giving.

[Flip]

Is he in that group chat?

[Joe Budden]

My butt was a green.

[Flip]

This one? No.

[Joe Budden]

My butt was a green.

[Parks]

I think this one.

[Flip]

No, I'm not.

[Joe Budden]

You still one of my favorite people. I don't care you.

[Parks]

I appreciate it.

[Offset]

Yo, you in that one.

[Parks]

This is. Let me check the list here. Cory Ammani, Ian Ice is Joe Button, Lamont Hill PO and Queens up. You're not mail.

[Melissa Ford]

What the.

[Joe Budden]

That's our. That's our dude. Ch.

[Parks]

Yeah. Even on vacation, I think was the issue. Maybe.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, it said he can't be in there if you going to be in there.

[Ish]

Oh, I'm lying.

[Joe Budden]

I'm lying. I'm lying. I'm lying. I'm lying. Yeah, y' all can figure it out. Y' all can figure it out later, you guys. Anyway, yeah, we got a long day of vision day. Just trying to be my best self again. Charge my social battery. Went out last night. Felt cute. Might delete later.

[Flip]

Saw you.

[Joe Budden]

Oh yeah. Saw you. Felt cute.

[Parks]

You made the rounds a little bit.

[Joe Budden]

Saw you.

[Ish]

Yes, you did.

[Joe Budden]

I had a blast. Did you And I had a blast.

[Parks]

I just went too, right? You went to or a different shit.

[Flip]

I went SummerSlam.

[Parks]

Oh, that was different.

[Joe Budden]

He went to the big.

[Parks]

I just saw big wrestling event and figured it was all the same thing.

[Flip]

Well, they had the whole weekend. They had Friday night.

[Joe Budden]

I'm a head now. I'm a wrestling head now. Watch.

[Parks]

I didn't mean disrespecting you my side gun.

[Joe Budden]

I mean disrespect you east side gun. East side. I'm a wrestler head now. I ain't going. It ain't gonna be too much on wrestling while I'm sitting here. I'll tell you that one. I don't give a fuck what y' all talk about.

[Flip]

They had Friday night smackdown live and predential that bag line.

[Parks]

Okay?

[Flip]

They had Saturday night and Sunday night.

[Joe Budden]

Can you stop interrupting Ice talking about SummerSlam.

[Flip]

Yo, what's that bag like?

[Joe Budden]

I wouldn't know. I'm not being paid by any wrestlers.

[Flip]

Wwe.

[Offset]

No, I'm not.

[Flip]

Not wrestlers or by the.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, wait, wait.

[Parks]

You got the wrestling gig before flip.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not being paid by anyone.

[Ish]

And on top of that, why it has to be a comparison, man? You fall right in the lines of disruption and cause a division. That was division. Very divisive of you. It wasn't I'm very supportive.

[Parks]

I think you would be an amazing wrestling correspondent.

[Ish]

I think what's meant to happen. When I saw Joe there, I was happy. I was excited. I think that was dope. It was fire. I was proud. That's motivational. It's my man. He did right there. Looking.

[Joe Budden]

He's looking.

[Ish]

Put his hand up. I was like, yeah, Joe, let's go.

[Parks]

I didn't really understand the pause part, but I mean, you know.

[Joe Budden]

Well, I guess it's Monday night. Raw. Yeah. Hey, Joe Budden's at raw.

[Parks]

Oh, okay, okay.

[Joe Budden]

All right. It's some social media manager. You trying to play the part. Hey, have some grace. Not too much on fucking wrestling, nigga. You're right, my bad.

[Ish]

Watch your out.

[Joe Budden]

Chill out with the wrestler. Watch yourself. Yeah, watch.

[Ish]

How did it feel being there watching.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, I want to start the part. I'd like to catch up with everybody.

[Ish]

Got it.

[Joe Budden]

I'd like to talk about all of the non important things going on on the board. Sure. Shout out to the first and last time listening Oh, I forgot how to start this shit, man.

[Melissa Ford]

You start by playing.

[Parks]

Perhaps you have a little tune.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, I do a little jingle. I do there's no feelings Larry Hoover.

[Flip]

Dove off the mountaintop and turned into a golden eagle that's true Time for us to come together as one shout out folk one gang, one nation we.

[Joe Budden]

Making informants get plastic surger I've been riding on some rap started revisiting some albums.

[Ish]

Please let a free dilated pupils.

[Joe Budden]

Are the season Is she lucky just.

[Ish]

To get some Chuck E. Cheese I bust my nut and holla lucky go rejoice with a blowjob Always wanted a.

[Joe Budden]

Rolls Royce with no job Then again all I do they don't feel me, they not feeling me yet yes, sir, yes, sir Shout out to all the entrepreneurs and 9 to 5 is out there Shout out to the dope boys out there Anytime I'm around Jerseys in the building you already know New York City what's poppin though yeah, such a breath of fresh air Get a blowjob, have a seizure on the lift or get a new car I could lease it for a year or bring it.

[Ish]

Back tomorrow that's some Lisa disappear count.

[Joe Budden]

New money pilling out a venue New May Bach after it was discontinued Never question mine my mind is so inventive Quadrupled my net worth and threw in a few incentives madebox 4 be a.

[Ish]

Lord that I adore all money gang.

[Joe Budden]

We got ones in the floor See me on the wood, nigga pause at.

[Ish]

The game meal and choose no flaws Ask them lanes to the boss in the presence of a dawn we started.

[Joe Budden]

On the corner didn't have a coin Playing my position for a club that I.

[Ish]

Everybody on vacation right now. Everybody at the airport right now.

[Joe Budden]

Go.

[Ish]

And get the chips, go and get.

[Joe Budden]

A rental I got a cute she.

[Ish]

Showing some potential so we taking trips.

[Joe Budden]

SS last with memory spade I'mma patch that ass I don't get paid I'm.

[Ish]

A Mike Tyson type.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. I mean, let me do it for the. That's on scooters right now in the short shorts, the pom poms with the dick out paws. I mean, Flip got Lululemons on. That's what they selling there, the dick out shorts for let's say too many names.

[Ish]

We got a great show lined up.

[Joe Budden]

For y' all today.

[Ish]

Always for the ladies. Always for the ladies.

[Joe Budden]

Who else could flip a chorus in the 40 minutes with Leonardo DiCaprio? While I don't bomb. Oh, word. Everybody out of town. Anybody in France, anybody in London, Germany. Everybody that been at some shows, them.

[Ish]

Festivals and all that.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, everybody going to their family reunion. What up, what up, what up, what up? Shout out to my cousins and see y' all soon.

[Ish]

Whoa.

[Erickson]

Hey.

[Joe Budden]

Happy birthday to my older brother.

[Ish]

Happy 50th do little.

[Joe Budden]

Happy 50th, man. Keep this applause going. Let me get these drops out the way right quick. Keep this applause going for the best crew in the world. Flip and mail. Mel. Mel. Shout out to our good brother Dark Lamont Hill on vacation in that Martha. Shout out to him out there at the vineyard. Man, can't wait to see him when he gets back. What episode is this?

[Parks]

849.

[Joe Budden]

Welcome to episode 849 of the JOE Button Cup Podcast, brought to you by a few by Powered by Prize Picks. Pride Picks, gang. Yeah, I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, happy to be here. Host Joe Button here with some really amazing people to my right. You seen her? Tell me, have you seen her? Do, do Tell me, have you. Tell me, have you seen her? Oh, Melissa Ford, back from wherever she was at. Make some moody hooties from the booty. Booty Hoot from booty. Well, Mel, tell us everything.

[Melissa Ford]

I mean, it was. I have a lot to say, so let's just get through the intros and.

[Offset]

Then we'll jump right in.

[Joe Budden]

ISO 1 bell, huh? To her right, queens get the money. Queens flip in the building. To his right, King Wawa Big ish. A thousand doors. And up to his right, big freeze Ice is In the building. Parks is in the building. PO is in the building. Corey is here. Erickson is here. TN and Siobhan are here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here. Before this show gets started, we want to say, sign up to the Patreon. Sign up to the Patreon. Become a member. And now, even if you are not a member, you could just go in there and buy shit a la carte.

[Parks]

That's fly.

[Joe Budden]

You can pick your favorite episode, pay a couple dollars, you know what I mean, and see whatever you need to see. That is extremely fire. Shout out to Patreon for making that change. Or maybe that's just for me. Well, shout out to Patreon either way. Shout out to Patreon either way.

[Melissa Ford]

Are you the most successful person on YouTube? Patreon.

[Joe Budden]

Read the article, I think in the.

[Parks]

Times over in Mexico.

[Joe Budden]

Times.

[Melissa Ford]

I was reading my script, so I didn't get a chance to, like, read through the entire. You know, I saw it. I saw. I saw what mattered.

[Joe Budden]

They said yes.

[Melissa Ford]

Yes. Well, congratulations on that. That is amazing.

[Joe Budden]

Thank you to that. Thank you. I couldn't do that without you guys. Make some noise for your. Yo.

[Ish]

Wow.

[Joe Budden]

Not today.

[Ish]

Oh, wow. Did you have to leave it.

[Joe Budden]

Go away?

[Ish]

He's a little successful. Successful black man.

[Parks]

That came a little crazy.

[Ish]

Successful, successful. Nah, I got.

[Joe Budden]

You said you gotta go back to school.

[Ish]

I got to success.

[Joe Budden]

You feel like that sometimes. Amazing. How's everybody doing? Great, man. Feeling good. Really great, man.

[Ish]

I just had a camping trip this weekend.

[Parks]

Oh, how'd it go?

[Ish]

Went well.

[Joe Budden]

Went well.

[Ish]

Where were you? Well, not Catskill. The pa. Yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay.

[Ish]

Nice.

[Melissa Ford]

Poconos.

[Ish]

Yeah, something like that.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Around me.

[Flip]

Anybody fight a beer?

[Ish]

No, no, no. I'm just a bunch of new people. Bunch of storylines created in front of me, man. I mean, initially, I was reluctant to find new people because I didn't know how it would go, but it turned out better than I think. I mean, sometimes you have to change, man. Change habits are good sometimes. You know what I mean? Stop getting used to what you used to. So I stepped out of my comfort zone. But it was nice, man. A lot of new people. Lot of great things happened. I can't wait to share it with you guys on the Internet, you know what I mean?

[Joe Budden]

But it was wonderful, Awesome. I can't wait to see it. That's funny. My wrestling story is gonna start with stepping out of my comfort zone. But I wanna hear about Mel.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, okay. Well, I saw him.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

All right.

[Joe Budden]

Well, you been to Mexico, nigga.

[Melissa Ford]

I did. I needed it. The one thing that I realized every time I did a film is I came right back to work. No. No recharge, no nothing. And it was really difficult. So this time I wanted to. Before I came back to this motherfucking mosh pit, I needed to take a little bit of a break.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, no complaints from Joe. Hey, me and you. Me and you are good.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah. A little Mexican. Little booted over there. Yeah, it was great. But the movie was great. I it by myself.

[Joe Budden]

Sure.

[Ish]

Who took the pictures? Ale. Alejandro. Who took the pictures? Alejandro. Maria.

[Joe Budden]

Yo.

[Ish]

Hey, Maria, can you take this picture?

[Joe Budden]

That's why I love you. She just are consistently the worst liar in the universe.

[Ish]

Bell is crazy.

[Joe Budden]

Look at that. And your face, when you turn your age and don't get the Botox, we can see the faces you be making when we say certain shit. Know what I'm saying? Your face moves.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

You bitches. Faces ain't moving out here at all. I keep saying. I'mma keep saying it too.

[Melissa Ford]

That's true. That's true. I do like this.

[Joe Budden]

Relax.

[Melissa Ford]

I do. I. Yes, I do.

[Joe Budden]

Now you hoes are casket ready in the face.

[Ish]

Seriously, when you talk, your top lip does not move. You look crazy like a puppet. I hate that, son. He's right.

[Joe Budden]

They forehead don't move. I'd be saying something that should be surprising. They can't do none of that shit.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, yeah, no, it's true. My face does remote. Okay. So yeah, it. Okay, fine. I went with my girlfriend Liz to Mexico.

[Joe Budden]

No, it's okay. It's fine.

[Parks]

Girl, sprinkle s' moreli in the line. It took you that long to come up with my girlfriend and just know.

[Joe Budden]

That there's a profile on women with bobs.

[Melissa Ford]

I don't know what that means. Could you translate?

[Joe Budden]

There's a profile.

[Parks]

It's a haircut.

[Joe Budden]

There's a profile. You have a bob.

[Melissa Ford]

What does it say about us?

[Joe Budden]

There's a profile on women with bob's.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

And I'm not saying it.

[Ish]

What's wrong with you?

[Melissa Ford]

Does anybody else know what it. No, no, no, no, no.

[Joe Budden]

Maybe it's just me.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Maybe it's just me.

[Flip]

You look beautiful.

[Ish]

You look beautiful.

[Joe Budden]

You look beautiful. And I'm so glad to have you back.

[Melissa Ford]

Thank you. Thank you. But I will say this, that each time that I've done a film, I've had the most incredible castmates. Like, that's been the consistent thing, and it did.

[Joe Budden]

We're not shouting Out. Castmates. Yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay, fine.

[Joe Budden]

Movie. All right.

[Melissa Ford]

Shout out to my castmates. You know who you are, because they won't let me say your names, but you were amazing.

[Joe Budden]

You got to do that. We a castmate.

[Melissa Ford]

These are my co hosts.

[Joe Budden]

You got to do that at the next Webby Award. What's that award you won?

[Melissa Ford]

A Gracie.

[Joe Budden]

You got to do that at the Gracie podium.

[Melissa Ford]

A Gracie. But, yeah, no, it was. It was great. It was wonderful. Wonderful.

[Joe Budden]

How was. How was actually shooting the movie?

[Melissa Ford]

It was. It was hard. It was hard. It was a really. It was much shorter than the last two projects that I did. And so, like, 124 page script with all that dialogue in such a condensed amount of time is really, really, really fucking hard.

[Parks]

How many days of shooting was it?

[Melissa Ford]

I don't know. It was a lot. It was not a lot. It was in between.

[Parks]

Got it.

[Ish]

Wait, what?

[Melissa Ford]

Don't worry about it.

[Ish]

Hit the road. We just go to Madhu.

[Joe Budden]

You day off. Like that simple of a question. Shouldn't be, are you like a robot?

[Melissa Ford]

Like 10ish? Something like that? Like 10ish.

[Joe Budden]

A lot of filming in not so many days. So it made it tough to memorize and retain the script.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. My memorization skills are a little rusty. Little rusty.

[Joe Budden]

Well, what. What did you. What did you learn about yourself from this movie? From. From the last one?

[Melissa Ford]

I learned that I got to do more projects. It can't just be one a year now.

[Joe Budden]

Why do you say that?

[Melissa Ford]

Because, like, you got to work on the craft. You know, you work on your craft. This is a craft that I need to work on. So I got to get my memorization skills. You know, I just. I felt I'm. I'm shooting for Viola Davis, and I'm like. I'm like, right here.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, so that's the goal.

[Joe Budden]

So you.

[Melissa Ford]

More practice.

[Joe Budden]

So you a little rusty. Yeah.

[Ish]

Yo, kick him out, please.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, make him kick this out. I never told him to come on Tuesday. He's just kind of just chilling.

[Melissa Ford]

I knew that would trigger somebody.

[Joe Budden]

Well, way to go, man. We glad you back. Big Freeze Went to that SummerSlam. Yo, you're not a wrestling head. Mute up right now. Yo, if you're not into wrestling, mute up for the next 10. All right. Big freeze. I did.

[Flip]

I did. I went to SummerSlam Night 1 at MetLife. It was my first live wrestling event in over 20 years. And boy, when I tell you the.

[Joe Budden]

Women was out there, they weren't some money. I thought that was what you about to say.

[Flip]

No they were. The women were out there, though. Yeah, it's money around out there, but. Nah, this shit was amazing. Yo, top to bottom, it was just a. We got. We missed the first two matches, but.

[Parks]

But every little hungover for Friday.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah. Oh. Cause you and Parks was out being birds on Friday. Yeah, we were being birds. We were being birds. Got it.

[Flip]

Definitely being birds. But the ovation. The way that crowd went when Seth Rollins dropped them crutches, cashed in the money in the bank and won the championship from CM Punk. I ain't. I haven't felt nothing like that.

[Joe Budden]

That shit was in your life.

[Flip]

You cried. No, not cry. I'm talking about the energy in.

[Joe Budden]

The energy in the room.

[Flip]

Fucking that whole world.

[Joe Budden]

You talk about about.

[Flip]

You talking about 50,000.

[Joe Budden]

He never felt nothing like that. Energy, my guy. Energy. Okay.

[Flip]

A live crowd with absolute ape from children all the way up. Like, that was crazy. I saw people saying the reports of an earthquake. I'm like, no, I think that might.

[Offset]

Have just been this.

[Joe Budden]

No, I wasn't at SummerSlam.

[Parks]

Did it really?

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Parks]

I always miss the fucking earthquakes.

[Flip]

My nigga. I thought somebody ran into my house with a car.

[Parks]

Oh, damn.

[Flip]

Yeah, it was some scary part you.

[Joe Budden]

Thought she had Jay. She got the address. She found her Addie. Nah, dead ass.

[Flip]

That shit was.

[Joe Budden]

I was on the balcony. That my old shit.

[Parks]

That would be a scary place to be in an earthquake.

[Joe Budden]

I like shit like that. Like we are on a planet and I think we just running around here like a sweet. We going to stores and all of this man made shit. Like the planet don't have a say in nothing. I like the plan to shake it well, again, I'm not in la, so trigger warning for the people that I know. It's different out there. Up here. We don't get that so much.

[Melissa Ford]

No, they don't.

[Flip]

It made me think about la. Cause it was short. It was like a second and a half. Like, it was short. And it was only like a 3. It was a 3.0, so I can.

[Melissa Ford]

Only imagine that was a 3.0.

[Flip]

Yeah, that shit was real. That shook my whole house family, I'm not gonna lie.

[Melissa Ford]

Crazy. So wait, there was another earthquake. Do you guys remember that? It was like.

[Parks]

It was like last year.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, it was last year. I felt that one.

[Joe Budden]

That one happened while we were at work.

[Flip]

We was working or something.

[Joe Budden]

We was working. Cause I felt that shit. Yeah.

[Flip]

Now that shit the other day was different. I could only imagine if it was a seven or eight and it lasted for five seconds.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, exactly.

[Melissa Ford]

So in la, the buildings are, like, retrofitted to Manhattan, too.

[Flip]

The big ones.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay. But here, like, I'm talking about like, even, like, buildings like this, they're not ready for that. And the frequency in which this is happening is kind of alarming over here. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

[Joe Budden]

We good?

[Melissa Ford]

That's a lot in a short amount of time. Sorry.

[Joe Budden]

But you had a great time.

[Flip]

No, I had a great time. Great time. Great time. Like, I had. Talk to her.

[Joe Budden]

Huh? Who'd you go with?

[Flip]

I went with my girl. Oh, okay.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Saw a lot of fans there.

[Flip]

It was dope. It was really dope. We were up. We were up in the suite, so we was able to see, like, the whole stunt.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, that's where they put the sweet. Yeah, it was sweet.

[Flip]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I'm joking.

[Flip]

But, nah, that shit was. That shit was fly. Like, I'm looking to go to more of these shits now.

[Parks]

Tell us about your experience here.

[Flip]

Yeah, I saw you out there. Yeah, I seen you. You wasn't in them button seats, buddy.

[Joe Budden]

It's different when I tell you ahead of time.

[Parks]

Where was it?

[Joe Budden]

The Barclays. Yeah.

[Flip]

Like I said, they had the whole weekend up here.

[Parks]

The whole city on the floor. The whole weekend. The whole city.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

So now, I wouldn't have done SummerSlam, I don't think. Not off the whim, because I'm claustrophobic, and that's just a lot of people. And y' all know how we've been feeling about arenas? Yeah, I mean, stadiums. Stadiums. Stadiums, right.

[Parks]

It's not that far off to be.

[Joe Budden]

In an arena, but a few weeks ago, I think it's a world of a difference even in just how you enter.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Like.

[Flip]

But see, that's.

[Joe Budden]

You better be in shape. You go. Go to the marinas.

[Parks]

That's true, though.

[Joe Budden]

You better be used to walking and breathing and jogging and. Yeah, it's a lot going that sweet.

[Flip]

Different over there at MetLife, yo.

[Joe Budden]

Huh?

[Flip]

That sweet is different at MetLife. Oh, you don't walk in through none of that. Oh, yeah, yeah. That is true.

[Joe Budden]

Okay. Yeah, I did that when. When I was with the Giants. It's just been a while. Ian hit me a few weeks ago, like, yo, August, whatever date that was, I want you to come out to the wrestling event. So I check the calendar and I do what I do. Anytime somebody ask me weeks in advance, I say, all right. Bet if you just ask me a month, a month and a half. Oh, yeah, I'm there, bro.

[Parks]

Yeah. It's not a Tuesday or Friday.

[Joe Budden]

Come on. For you?

[Offset]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, got you in there. You think I ain't showing up to that? I had to get my off. But anyway, then the date comes and Ian is like, yo, you know we got that wrestling tonight. My girl just left. All these kids just left. It's my first day by myself. You want me to leave the house at what time is this Raw? To go to another raw, rush hour traffic, to Brooklyn, to some wrestling and then hike it back? Is that what you want me to do?

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

He said, listen, buddy, it's not urgent. You don't have to go. We don't have to go, but it would be nice. It would be nice. What would? Motivating factor. What do you mean? What? When I'm invited somewhere, I don't typically ask, hey, why did you invite me?

[Flip]

No, what was the motivating factor to see wrestling?

[Joe Budden]

Huh?

[Flip]

Cause you'll cancel.

[Joe Budden]

Well, if I come out. If I come out, I'm probably coming out to watch the production. If I'm coming out, I was probably invited by somebody who was well established, literally really important. Yeah. So I went. Bottom line, I went. When I tell you, no traffic. Headed to the Barclays. Nice ice cube made. Today was a good day. This was a close Jersey rendition of it. Well, I will say no traffic.

[Parks]

I will say even when we were out Saturday, it was like, damn, shit is, like, kind of light right now. And I was like, well, this is the time of year when everyone's somewhere. No one's here right now.

[Joe Budden]

Exactly. I got to Brooklyn with the ease.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Pulled right up to the vip, hopped out, walked in. The dude that's working the metal detector, that's from the third party company, he didn't really get it. He didn't get me at first, but the dude that was standing right behind him, OG here, Joe, come on, man, take your lighter. Dover, come on, take your stuff. Awesome. So now we just being escorted around. We go through some elevator. Now we're backstage, walking around, and there's wrestlers. When I tell y' all that I don't know a wrestler. I don't know no wrestler.

[Flip]

Me neither. Them niggas I used to name, I.

[Joe Budden]

Was like, I don't know. No, I know him now, but I know some of the bigger ones, but they got a million successful new niggas. Wrestlers. This ain't like back in the day where you had your. It's a lot of these niggas and women. I don't Know any of the wrestlers. But anyway, so I get there. Monday Night Raw is on Netflix now, right? So on Netflix, we shout to Netflix. So they got a bodega. They set up a bodega for the influencers and the taste makers and yada yada, yada. So I go into bodega, I start seeing everybody that I haven't seen in 15 years. I see KP, shout out to KP from Complex. I see Chuck from All Hip Hop. He's not at all hip hop now. I see Shyen Reid. We see B Dot, we see Gene. My man Gene is in it. Who's at Netflix now. Who was at State of the Culture with us. Like, it's just a mix.

[Flip]

Oh, that's dope.

[Joe Budden]

So now we in mixie time. It's pictures, it's smiling, it's veneer. You know what I mean? So my social battery is draining.

[Ish]

It is.

[Joe Budden]

But this shit is so fly. And everybody is so in a good mood. Upbeat. It's food. They're giving you bags. Take all the shit outta here. We don't need it. It. And I'm just looking at the production. They got a million different departments with thousands of people working one event in concert, cohesive. They we, we on these headphones, we on these walkie talkies and it's work.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

When they say when. So we get backstage now, the wrestlers are shooting back there. So they like, hey, quiet. It's production.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

And I'm just looking. And they shoot. And then they stop shooting. They did that a few times. And then all the wrestlers walking by. And then you talking to all the wrestlers, the guy wrestlers, the girl wrestlers. And everybody is so polite and just warm and welcoming. They don't care. I don't know wrestling. They don't give a fuck. Hey, man, nice to meet you. Yada, yada, yada, yada, yada. Oh, my God, we are catching a little vibe, aren't we? We are having a sleep back here.

[Flip]

Sorry. Being outside.

[Joe Budden]

So then we keep following Netflix. Whoever we follow, we follow when they take us to our seat. Let's sit down. It's fucking Havoc because Havoc was in the bodega. Shout out to Havoc. It's Havoc. It's Method man, it's Kaz, it's Storm.

[Parks]

You dropping a lot of names.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, so let me slow this down. Why I'm dropping these names is these are the people that's sitting in the front, front row. Storm. When I was 19, 20 in Jersey City, Storm had the red Suburban or the Denali with the Some rims on it. And Storm was working with Gaddafi. And Storm was doing the DVDs of local talent spitting in Jersey City. I was the best nigga to ever grace that. Let me just be super, super clear. But online now, if you see a video of me like 1819, rapping some extra long ass verse in the granny.

[Parks]

I think I seen that.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, that's Storm shooting that shout out to Storm man. Okay, so this is like a full circle thing for me. That Storm is to my right with habit, and to my left is Method man and his children.

[Parks]

That's Fire.

[Joe Budden]

Behind me is Chuck, who I came up with in this shit. These is niggas from 01. Yeah, we talking 01, 02 now. This ain't for the puppies. So for me it's like a full circle moment. And it's so much hip hop at this wrestling event.

[Parks]

Yeah, that's Fire.

[Joe Budden]

That was ill to me. That was ill to me. Me. So then the. The. They start the monologue. Al Heymon, somebody. Al thinks.

[Ish]

Paul Heymon, huh?

[Joe Budden]

Paul. Paul, Al. Where they get Al from?

[Ish]

Boxing.

[Joe Budden]

Boxing, yeah, yeah, exactly. So Paul Heymon is up there projecting, giving the best monologue ever with. He does with Seth. They smoke this monologue. Camera down, lights down. Now we got some fighters coming out. I don't know who these people are, but when the crowd start chanting, it's a very organic experience for me. OTC, OTC, OTC, O TTC. Yeah. Fuck they talk about, nigga. Yeah. I don't know who's a good guy, a bad guy, but if the crowd is chanting, yeah, nigga, we on that. You OC we on. We chanting.

[Flip]

We chant Holy. When somebody go through a table. I don't care. We was doing all of that, bro.

[Joe Budden]

And then I guess Seth Rollins was out there bragging that he had the belt. Yeah, and then some came out. Roman Reigns. And I was like, yo, who didn't know? Nah, it wasn't wrong. I was like, yo, who the is this dude? Kaz is a wrestling head, so he bringing everything he says. Too much story to give you with this one. But this guy right here, that used to be in a group, they split up, yada, yada, yada. I said, what? The crowd start chanting, l. A Night. L. A Night. L A Night.

[Ish]

Hey, let's go.

[Joe Budden]

You switch teams and start shouting that they wasn't really with Seth. Oh, nah. They was like, he's on some bad guys.

[Ish]

Yeah, he's a heel now. Yeah, he's a heel.

[Joe Budden]

It wasn't really feeling, son they ain't.

[Flip]

Like that from Summer's label, I'm telling you.

[Ish]

Yeah, he took the bill from CM Punk.

[Joe Budden]

Anyway. Long story less long. The. The matches were great. The production was great.

[Ish]

Shout out to Netflix.

[Joe Budden]

Watching all of that was great. Shout out to Netflix. Shout out to fucking wwe.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

It was amazing. I would definitely go back.

[Flip]

Yeah, I'm in. I'm back. I went home. I was like, yo, I gotta get the boys into wrestling now. I'm in.

[Joe Budden]

And it was just like a culture shock, right? Cause in the writing, like, if it ain't broke, don't fix it in the writing. So much of the shit that's from our childhood is still in there, right? The shit that used to work on me, like, when the ref turn his back and then niggas start jumping.

[Ish]

Yeah, man, a couple months in the ring.

[Joe Budden]

Turn around. He right there.

[Ish]

So I'm seeing this work in person.

[Joe Budden]

So now, because I'm an adult watching, I'm kind of getting a groove of it. So every time somebody win and they get up on a turn rope to the tight to the top and talk to the fans and then some new come out, they right behind them.

[Ish]

They gonna get you, man. Turn around. I think that.

[Joe Budden]

I think that it's just more beautiful to me knowing that it's. Knowing that it's not real. It's iller.

[Ish]

Well, not that it's not real, that it's scripted.

[Flip]

No, you're an adult and you respect the production and all the other shit that goes into it as a kid. You're not looking at it from that lens.

[Joe Budden]

Exactly, dog. For them to be pulling some of them moves and slapping some of them N and earth slamming the acrobatics, I'm like, all right, real or not, scripted or not, some of this is going to hurt.

[Parks]

Pull that off within the script has got to be very fucking difficult.

[Joe Budden]

And I'm in the gym now, so everybody that come out there is like this. He like, God damn.

[Flip]

Yo, speaking of that, wouldn't want to fight. This nigga Jelly Roll fought Saturday.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, wow.

[Flip]

And I was like, wait, for real? And so I'm talking to.

[Joe Budden]

And he smoked it.

[Flip]

He smoked it. I'm talking to one of the dudes that worked with wwe.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Flip]

And he explained it to me how Jelly Roll's been training, and he's like, yo, he took this shit serious. Like, he came down here every day, and you saw it. Logan Paul. I'm like, yo, this is.

[Ish]

Logan Paul is one of the.

[Flip]

This is all right. Like, I'm Back. I'm all the way back now.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Flip]

If I see you getting some muscles, I know you're getting the bag.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. I mean, we had a time in there, though. This was. We had a real good time.

[Parks]

That's what I do.

[Joe Budden]

Them wrestlers were saying they work 52 weeks a year. Yeah, yeah. They said we get off when we don't feel well. I was like, that's how I do the poll. How about the same? But I'm just saying, think of a.

[Flip]

City, and that's physical work.

[Joe Budden]

Think of an entire city traveling to different cities for 52 weeks in concert, working together to put on this show. Yeah. This is one of the most amazing you're ever gonna see.

[Flip]

That's fine.

[Joe Budden]

So I'll definitely be back there.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

They talking about, they talking about this Canelo Crawford fight, cuz apparently that's on Netflix too.

[Melissa Ford]

Where's it supposed to be? Vegas.

[Flip]

Vegas.

[Joe Budden]

Okay. You guessed it. Do you want to go? Yeah. Do you got. Do you want to go?

[Flip]

Absolutely.

[Parks]

Sure.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Hell yeah. Seriously?

[Melissa Ford]

Yes.

[Flip]

Listen, I'm serious about what? What is it gonna be about?

[Joe Budden]

All right, say less. September 13th. That's Saturday.

[Parks]

Write it down.

[Joe Budden]

Anyway, again, Shout out to the wwe. Shout out to Netflix. Shout out to Brooklyn. That place was packed top to bottom. They came over, they asked me if I wanted to get on the tv. Okay.

[Offset]

Yeah, go ahead.

[Joe Budden]

Go ahead and do that.

[Melissa Ford]

What, like Kiss Cam?

[Ish]

No.

[Joe Budden]

All right.

[Melissa Ford]

It's a thing, you know. Okay.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, just a regular, just a regular, regular cam.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Regular camera. Oh. And that was my wrestling experience, man. So shout out to the wrestlers. That, that whole was fly. That was a vibe.

[Melissa Ford]

I've never been a fan. I, I, I'd be interested in going.

[Parks]

Yeah, I was a fan in the.

[Flip]

80S, but back in the maybe early 90s.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, like as a kid. But then you know the whole story.

[Ish]

It's an amazing experience.

[Flip]

It's a culture, yo. It's a whole entire thing that they have.

[Parks]

It's definitely that flip.

[Melissa Ford]

I'd love to see you in that, though.

[Joe Budden]

But to have the 5 year olds to the 70 year olds.

[Parks]

Yeah, it's crazy.

[Joe Budden]

And again, hey, it was some women up in that little bodega, bodega influencer shit they were talking about. Hey, don't. Hey, it's women at these wrestling events. Don't be ignorant, fam.

[Flip]

And that could be a nice niche market. Market famine they conquer. I'm telling y'.

[Joe Budden]

All.

[Flip]

So I believe they in there.

[Joe Budden]

Hopefully we can, we'll talk and we'll talk we'll talk.

[Flip]

Yeah, fam, we in the North East. When you go south, wrestling is a cult. Like that is different down south, dog.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, no, it was a cold here too.

[Flip]

Yeah, WWE is. That's everywhere.

[Joe Budden]

No, you should go. You would be a dope wrestler. That was another one of my thoughts. If I opened a strip club, which I'm not. My girls are wearing wrestling outfits. The girls are wearing wrestling outfits now. Anyway, them wrestling outfits, put these little outfits that Hama mela been be making to Shane. They be having hama mella in the back with a sewing machine. These rest, these wrestling outfits. And then it's nepotism, right? Cuz I'm old as hell. So it's. Yo, that's Rick Flair daughter. Yo, that's. What's the name? Charlotte.

[Parks]

Just like every other sport, she's the.

[Joe Budden]

Tag team champion with the other little, little, little girl.

[Flip]

She.

[Joe Budden]

Mexican girls came out. Cause that's the thing. It's kind of love and hip hop ish too. And I'll say this in closing. It's love and hip hop is too in terms of production, right? Like while you're talking, giving your speech.

[Flip]

With your homie, somebody gonna smack you.

[Joe Budden]

Music gonna come on, and now you gonna look stupid in the face. And your enemy is coming right there down the aisle. Just like in love and hip hop when you was at the pizza place and Mona, have your enemy walk right in the pizza place, sit down with you. The Mexican girls came out there. I said, oh, this is. This is getting deep. The Mexican girl had a little girl with her, so now they just gonna battle Rick Flair doing it. What? No, for real, I'm not. I don't know their names. It was the Mexican girl and the little girl in the show, but they changed champions and they won. Of course. You ain't going to beat the champion on Raw Kick Rocks. Anyway, what y' all want to talk about?

[Melissa Ford]

What's been happening? Whose phone is that?

[Joe Budden]

Probably me. Okay, that's.

[Flip]

That's. That's Zell.

[Joe Budden]

That's a bank app. No, that's not Zel Bling. Yo, what is wrong? I'm just saying.

[Parks]

That was Netflix.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, they played it wwe. We.

[Ish]

We winning.

[Joe Budden]

That's what it stand for, nigga. What? That's fire. And my brain somehow got to. Potters are like wrestlers.

[Melissa Ford]

How? In what way?

[Joe Budden]

As characters. Yeah, if we had it your way, it's characters. Yeah. Playing a character for a set role. And it has absolutely nothing to do with who you are and how you handle it. Behind the Scenes. Cause you have to successfully be both of those people for this to work. Work like for this to work. These giant fight fightingist of the fighters have to be soft, gentle, kind, and know how to talk to people from every age. Every walk of life is totally not the same at all. You could be out there booing them. That Irish that was fighting, the big Irish that was fighting. My man Rusev. Don't play with Rusev. I'm team Rusev too. I don't know if he good or bad. I don't know if he good or bad.

[Ish]

I'm a Seamus. N A.

[Joe Budden]

Watch him out. The Irish nigga, right? He ain't mad. What's his name?

[Ish]

Seamus.

[Joe Budden]

He ain't bad. But he was getting booed the whole fucking night. But backstage, he taking every picture with everybody. Like it's just one. Don't have your character. Yeah. So it was a sight to see. It was inspiring. It was a sight to see. I'll be back and let's work.

[Melissa Ford]

Kind of. I feel like it's already happening, but look.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, that cup halfway full already see me leave my own. The motivating Brooklyn.

[Flip]

Talking about what he kept saying.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Anyway, shouts to them. What would you guys like to talk about? Where would y' all like to start an hour in what's important, what's not.

[Flip]

Important coming off of the weekend. I think we should start about. Start talk with. Atlanta's not happy with us.

[Melissa Ford]

With who? Us up here or New York up here.

[Joe Budden]

Why?

[Offset]

Why?

[Flip]

Because of our review of Metro's album. Metro. Metro agreed with.

[Joe Budden]

I said Atlanta. They're not just mad at all. No, I'm joking.

[Parks]

Metro said salute to us. Ish. He just said that women were desolate.

[Joe Budden]

In the pods back process. He came in at the end. Thank you, Metro. We love you too up here. Thank God. Thank God. Never know who's a patronian, who ain't. Thank you, Metro, for helping out. Cause boy, everything that happened before that they were saying was about us. It was. It was. I was getting texts. That's how I knew it was for real.

[Flip]

I got texts.

[Joe Budden]

That's how I knew it was for real. Atlanta people began to text me. One of them. I got a call just to make up to get my Atlanta pass back. I'mma call you out here, man. Just say all that shit, man. But what I do want to say is before I cop please on the phone. And it's Atlanta niggas coming up here.

[Parks]

A lot of them.

[Ish]

Oh yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah. Oh, we got lined up.

[Flip]

Yo, yo, yo, and you know what?

[Joe Budden]

We got lined up.

[Flip]

We did get lined up. You know how I know we got lined up now? Cause the first one that's coming was like, yo, everybody's gonna be there, right?

[Joe Budden]

We got lined up, man.

[Flip]

Making sure that.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, so I'm such a huge Metro fan. Let me start. Let me start with this.

[Parks]

Let's go.

[Joe Budden]

There we go. Metro went crazy last year for me.

[Flip]

He did.

[Parks]

He did.

[Flip]

And the years before that.

[Parks]

Yeah, he's been.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, but. Yeah, but last year was eternal.

[Parks]

Some future albums were his last album.

[Joe Budden]

And the future albums, I think he did a score of a movie. He was going nuts. And it all was fire. I didn't know that this project was a concept album album. I just see Metro booming name. So it wasn't till later where I learned all of what he's trying to do, what Futuristic Error and what he was doing. So I commend him for that. Right up here. We have been big proponents of regional music coming back. We like that. That don't mean that it always has to be for me. But I'm really happy that he did that. That for those people. But I don't think I on it. I ain't gonna let y' all just put words in my mouth.

[Flip]

I don't think we on it. That was every argument I had.

[Ish]

It was a.

[Joe Budden]

It could have been a rough listing if you was from Atlanta and you was into it. I get that. But y' all must have never heard me on Something is all I said, because I acknowledge I didn't hear the whole thing. Maybe we need to hear this at. I need to hear this at another time, in another place. And. And it's for Atlanta and I'll have some holes around.

[Parks]

I think we're just regurgitating what we said.

[Joe Budden]

And yeah, they was coming at it.

[Parks]

I will say that part of the Bringing the regionalism back is some people are not going to understand and that's okay. Like you don't.

[Joe Budden]

We.

[Parks]

I don't expect for some Atlanta podcast dudes to run to a. Whatever, Griselda project and understand it to the same level that they understand the Metro project. It's okay.

[Flip]

But the put out a Queen Queens compilation album, and it had 90s queens, hip hop, everybody. It's not going to resonate with everybody.

[Joe Budden]

Exactly.

[Parks]

And that's okay.

[Joe Budden]

I'm calling Mey cuz he says it's very irresponsible to judge this album without the proper context from an Atlanta. Mey is 21's manager. He does a Lot of great things. And he calls out, damn near cursing me out in my text, so I had to defend myself. Let me give me easy see if. See if we blessed enough to have him answer.

[Offset]

This little light of mine.

[Joe Budden]

Stupid video.

[Offset]

I'm going to let it shine.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Y Y Y Y me.

[H]

That's crazy that you called cuz we literally just talking about Metro project.

[Joe Budden]

Show you Atlanta, yo. Me, I'm on air right now, so don't say anything to that would incriminate either one of us. But I told the people how. How you were perturbed about the review from this album and how you thought it was irresponsible for it to be reviewed without the proper context from an Atlanta Nick.

[H]

Yeah, yeah, I feel that way. I feel like you can judge it if you understand it and if you understand it and don't like it, then you can say you don't like. I say you, you. It's two things, bro. You can say some is trash or you can say some is not for me. I don't like is trash and you have no understanding. It's like a. That doesn't understand the clips. Calling the clips album trash and they don't even listen to it. Just say it's not for you.

[Joe Budden]

But for the record, nobody up here called that album.

[Offset]

Right.

[Flip]

That was the point. We made sure to not call it trash.

[Joe Budden]

But. But please give the proper context. What is going on on this album from the POV of the in Atlantis.

[H]

So for Atlanta, like future, it's like an era. You had errors, obviously. Y' all remember the Snap era, you know, like Depot L and you know, Franchise Boy. And then you had Crunk era with Lil Jon. So like right after the Snap era, it was like this like evolution. It was called like futuristic music. That's where you get your young LA a ni, your J Money, first name, last name. You got rich kids who y' all might not be familiar with. You got like young DRO and young LA with the black boy, white boy swag. That's where you get Travis Porter, you know what I'm saying? That's where you kind of get a lot of these people that y' all were hearing from, from Atlanta at that time. And it was like a sound and a swag. It was like these beats were kind of like upbeat. It was like certain strings and certain. You know, it was like an era of music. So at that time, you gotta think Metro is the early 30s. Me, you know, I'm 35. So pretty much everybody in Atlanta between Like I say, like 41 to 31. We all were, you know, young 20s to between 15 to 25, you know what I'm saying? And this is all. This is like.

[Joe Budden]

Like, why.

[H]

Why do you think future's name is Future? Like, this is like, this is what was happening at that time. You know what I'm saying? So it was like a sound in Atlanta, and it was these mixtape series called Space Invaders with DJ Spins, A hood rich mixtape with DJ Spins and DJ Pretty Boy Tank. That's why DJ Spins is the executive producer. And you hear his tags all through the album.

[Joe Budden]

Got it.

[H]

Because it's a.

[Joe Budden]

It's a.

[H]

It's a theme. Like in Atlanta, it was a major thing that's always listen to. So he's pretty much just bringing back a time because Metro used to come back and forth from, you know, St. Louis to Atlanta when he was younger. You know, he was out here making beats and working, and a lot of young kids loved the Atlanta sound. Everybody was on Gucci and everybody was listening to what was happening in Atlanta. So all he doing is kind of going back to what he grew up on and restoring that feeling of how Atlanta felt in the sound of Atlanta at that time. He's the only one. No, he's not the only one. But the leverage that Metro has, he was able to put ears on people that people would never naturally.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, that's fine. I get that.

[H]

So he had to utilize his leverage. And honestly, if it was. If he did this in 2010, it wouldn't have been on DSPS. It would have just been some show industry. It's been a mix, you know what I'm saying? But he can stream and be able to make these people some bread and utilize his leverage to kind of gain ears. And if you like it, you like it. If you don't, you don't.

[Flip]

And I feel like a lot of.

[H]

A lot of kids, you know, Metro has the. Metro. He kind of got hit with the, like, how people try to treat Drake with.

[Joe Budden]

What was it?

[H]

Honestly, never mind what kind of Drake was like, yo, I want to do what I want to do, you know, and people got mad at it, but it's like, I can swing my nuts.

[Flip]

Let me do what I want to do right here.

[Joe Budden]

I got y'. All. But listen, why you. Why y'? All? I get all that that you saying, and I love it. I respect it as honorable as fly. There's nothing bad I could say about it.

[Flip]

Well, if you.

[Joe Budden]

That's how y' all on it. Why y' all can't just enjoy all of that without acceptance from anybody who don't extend it, understand it. That's just a lot of words to come along with an album release.

[H]

Like, I don't like when people say something's trash because you don't understand it. That's what I don't like. Like, if somebody like that ain't for me, I have nothing to say.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, so you just talking to the people that said it was trash, right?

[Flip]

He not talking to us.

[H]

I. Yeah. And then another thing I hate is these bundle buying, these merch bundle buying ass white kids who don't know shit trying to dictate what any nigga's supposed to do.

[Joe Budden]

I'm gonna listen to. Okay, okay, all right, all right. You going crazy now. Thank you for your input. You've helped me to understand. Has he helped y' all to understand? Yes, Me then. You stood me up when you came to New York, nigga. Next time you up here. Come on.

[H]

I know, man.

[Joe Budden]

Don't run from me, Paul, Pause. No, no, no. I got you, bro. My God, I love you. Say less. I told you later.

[H]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Budden]

I get all that.

[Flip]

I get that.

[Joe Budden]

I get all of that.

[Flip]

And again, like, this is their moment.

[Joe Budden]

They having a moment. Like, but when LA did they. And they wasn't talking to everybody that didn't understand what was going on at all.

[Flip]

That's the only thing you don't get it.

[Joe Budden]

Cool.

[Parks]

Yeah. I don't think them having a moment needs to be like, all right, let's go, fire it.

[Flip]

They want everybody acknowledging our moment and they want everybody to accept moment. Like, yeah, bro, we don't get it. And that's all right. My whole point was nobody up here said it was trash. I've been arguing this all weekend.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Like, yo, y' all on this album, I'm like, all right, come on, let's go back. Let's go.

[Parks]

Look at what? Listen to it.

[Flip]

What did we say that on this album? We tried.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, we listened.

[Flip]

You made it to five tracks. I made it to six and went to the second disc. It's a try. Okay. This is not for me.

[Joe Budden]

Me and you.

[Flip]

Okay, well, maybe I'm listening to it at the wrong.

[Parks]

Yeah, we listen to it.

[Flip]

My girls, like, this is giving something to try. If I'm not from that I can't relate to that. Doesn't resonate with me. Then it's not for me. That should be okay. That's not us saying, yo, this is the work. Get this bullshit. We didn't do none of that.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, at almost. At almost 45, I'm down with all you niggas going to be as different and eclectic and as weird and unique as you want to be. Right. Coming off the Tyler release Metro doing some fly regional shit. I'm cool with niggas just doing what they want, want to do musically. I got. I'm not putting music pressure on nobody.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Flip]

But also, I just want everybody to also understand when you take these risks and do things, it might not be for everybody, though.

[Ish]

Exactly.

[Flip]

You can't now get mad at the folks who say, hey, you know what? I listen and I'm cool off that people love Tyler. People listen to that last Tyler project and said, eh, that one's not for me. He's not running around now mad at everybody who say that album wasn't for.

[Joe Budden]

Them, him at all.

[Flip]

That's the part you got to understand.

[Joe Budden]

Anything else happen in music. Cuz I think our guest is here.

[Parks]

We got. We got a juicy J project. I haven't listened to the whole thing, but I'm excited about it. Yeah, the new mixtape is out.

[Flip]

You heard something?

[Parks]

I just skimmed a couple, like literally around the corner on the way here. I just saw that it dropped. I think it came out after Friday.

[Flip]

Gotcha.

[Parks]

I got to check it, but I'm excited about that.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, he.

[Flip]

He keeps it. He keeps a good one for sure.

[Parks]

Head on a swivel is what it's called. And it's out now.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, that sounds fire. Shout out to Juicy J. All right, it's time for my favorite part of the show.

[Ish]

Prize Pick.

[Joe Budden]

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[Offset]

Asia.

[Joe Budden]

Asia Wilson. I fuck it up every time you send it. Cody Bollinger for more than five and a half fantasy score. And Aaron Judge who just got back. I think he's only playing DH for more than six and a half fantasy score. The Yankees are on a fucking four game losing streak. It's looking bad out there. Aaron Boone needs to get fired. Whatever. Listen, if you download the app right this second and use promo code JBP, you get $50 instantly when you play your first $5 lineup. I repeat, for the people in the back, if you download prize picks right this second and use promo code JBP, you get $50 instantly when you play your first $5 lineup up. So good luck to all participants out there and run your game. Let him cook.

[Ish]

Chill out. N. Not while I'm here. Chill out.

[Parks]

All right, here you go.

[Joe Budden]

You did. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen. Yes, we have a very special guest in the building.

[Offset]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Budden]

We have a brother I'm really excited to talk to. We have probably the only person in the. In the record business that I want to talk to. Like, I want to talk to. Let's just rock for a little bit, let our guest get situated. We have another strip club connoisseur in this. Finally, I'm not alone.

[Offset]

Yes, sir. Honest, she rare like a rat in the back.

[Melissa Ford]

And.

[Offset]

My rank.

[Joe Budden]

Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for Offset in the building.

[Ish]

Make the noise.

[Joe Budden]

Legends in the building.

[Ish]

Legends in the building.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, sir. Ski straight out of dream.

[Offset]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Budden]

How you feeling, man?

[Offset]

Good, man. I'm happy, blessed.

[Joe Budden]

I'm happy to have you here. It's good to see you. You.

[Flip]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Budden]

You're smelling good. You're looking good.

[Offset]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Budden]

You're sounding good.

[Offset]

Yes, sir.

[Parks]

Tape is fire. Album is fire.

[Offset]

Appreciate that.

[Joe Budden]

Offset, man. Offset, man. Which way? Chris Green, man. What you. What y' all want me to.

[Ish]

Which way we go?

[Joe Budden]

How y'. All. How do y' all want to. Well, first of all, how are you? First of all, Mel's back.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Melissa Ford]

How you doing? How's your mental health? How's everything? Okay, Good, Good.

[Offset]

Focus on the music and I mean, focus on putting the work.

[Joe Budden]

This sound like it? Yeah, it's rejuvenated.

[Offset]

You sound locked in, man.

[Joe Budden]

You in all types of pockets on these beats. They. Every one of these shits is impressive. Every record released pre album is crazy. Did you have a different motivation this album?

[Offset]

I think I just had more focus on myself, you know what I mean? Like. Like look in the mirror. Like that's the whole. That's the whole term of the album, like that's why I named my album Kiari, my real name. Just like different aspects. Looking at myself in the mirror in different positions. I've been in the game, I've been in the game a minute, you know what I mean? I've been through so many different chapters. So like focusing back on that and trying to find the love in it again, you know what I mean? In the music, you know what I mean?

[Parks]

It felt like a lot of introspection on the album and it covered a lot of bases. There's records for the girls, there's street records and then there's a lot of like introspective shit. Especially later, later in the album.

[Melissa Ford]

Were you starting to lose love for the game?

[Offset]

Nah, it's just trying to build so many different businesses in the like music take away distraction branding and doing merch and fashion and it take you. I feel like sometimes it take you out of the music so much. Cause you doing so many. Your hands in so many different things and you trying to build, build them things up. The music already built up. You trying to build them things up so it make you lose the focus in the music. So then I wasn't recording as much like as I used to. Like when I first started, when I first started recording. Every single day, every single day, all day, every day. Like I feel like if I ain't go to the studio where I ain't getting no work done, like you get lazy, you get more money, you get lazy, you get more status. So it become more of a thing you doing. You ain't treating it like no hustle. I wasn't treating the game like a hustle. I was cool in the pocket I was in, you know what I mean?

[Flip]

So.

[Offset]

Yeah.

[Flip]

How long did it take you to make this album?

[Offset]

This album? I dropped my last album about almost two years ago. It took me about probably like five months.

[Flip]

I was quick like cuz I had.

[Offset]

Some stuff, you know, I've been working, I've been working, I've been working and then I just like got into the different mode and scratched that and was like this whack.

[Flip]

Scratch everything.

[Offset]

Scratch everything. This whack but bodies body song. I had that for two years, but I was sleeping on it.

[Joe Budden]

Really.

[Offset]

I had it for two years. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

You know, we. You know, park says that that's your hardest solo record.

[Parks]

For me, it was for him. There's a lot on this album that might compete with that. But it as far as like single. Yeah, that's my favorite.

[Offset]

Appreciate it.

[Flip]

Yeah, that Combo's going to change with this album.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah.

[Parks]

That album is Fire.

[Flip]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

Offset, man.

[Offset]

Joe.

[Joe Budden]

Joe, you are the first of so many things right to me. And this is coming from somebody who built his rap career off introspection. Right? So part of going through things, like, it's hand in hand with the music. If I went through it, you were gonna hear about it at some point.

[Offset]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

And I put all my girly bars. I dissed so many of my girls, my exes, my baby moms, I did all of that shit. None of them could diss me back. You the first rapper that I could think of to go through anything that you go into right now. Like, you don't have somewhere else to look to see how this was done, which is why this project for me is a little different from you with everything that's going on is what I'm saying. So, yes, introspective. But how are you away from the studio? How are you managing? Right? We talking takeoff loss. Rest in peace.

[Flip]

Rest in peace.

[Joe Budden]

We talking anything. You and Quavo. We talking the relationship with P. Quality control. Right. And I know how you feel about certain things because you've called me sometimes like, yo, yo, hey, watch it. Well, yeah, we got kicking. So I know how you feel about certain things. So how is it recording with all of these things going on? And how are you away from recording? How are you handling all of this?

[Offset]

So recording with. With everything going on, it's like, easy because it give a context versus you rapping my jury and, you know, shining in the sun, you get some context. I can. And then also with the situation being how it is, I can freely rap and say what I need to say or how I feel for real. So it's like. Like it's easier for the studio. Cause like, free minded. Oh, I can't say that. I don't need to say that. Like, it's free minded now. Like, at a point in time, I was like, I ain't gonna. I can't say certain things. I can't. But now it's just like, I'm just being creative, open book.

[Joe Budden]

But that may be the easy part. What's it like when you go home after the studio?

[Offset]

Okay, shit, when I go home after the studio, well, I just surround myself with my folks and like, we stay on one mission. Like I was telling you, like. Like, I've been focused on music, bro. Like, I've been just focused on that. So hard production, everything, detail to it, and everybody around me on the same way. So even like friends that ain't in music. Like, I just surrounded myself with my friends and family, you know what I mean? Because the end of the day, we men, bro. I don't get in no dark mode. Like no dark clothes, down mode. Cause that ain't gonna do nothing for you. Thank God. That ain't gonna do nothing at the end of the day.

[Joe Budden]

Like, thank God.

[Offset]

I done been through so much stuff, like you said, throughout my career, I was locked up in jail, blew up, went to jail for no reason with the security situation, sat there, came home, made bad, and booze. It's always. It's always something that give me the little bump, like, focus up on this. That's how I look at it.

[Flip]

I was gonna ask, like, when you be going through stuff, is the studio and the music your getaway?

[Offset]

Exactly.

[Flip]

You know what I'm saying?

[Offset]

That's why I was safe space, easy. That's a safe space.

[Flip]

Cause I got free.

[Joe Budden]

Gotcha.

[Parks]

And it gives you shit to talk.

[Offset]

About, shit to pull from, give you context. It's writing a story for me. My life is just. What's happened in my life is writing the story for the music.

[Joe Budden]

Right? Any regrets?

[Offset]

Never have regrets.

[Melissa Ford]

Really?

[Joe Budden]

Come on, come on, come on. At least think about it. Regrets.

[Ish]

I ain't got no regrets, man.

[Offset]

I feel like I never.

[Joe Budden]

You gotta ask.

[Offset]

You never have regrets. You live and you learn. You know what I mean? But no regrets, though.

[Joe Budden]

So what is the biggest lesson you've learned, let's say, in the last last two years?

[Offset]

To not be so selfish.

[Flip]

It's honest, it's grown.

[Joe Budden]

And I think I understand because I'm a.

[Flip]

That's grown.

[Joe Budden]

But in what ways were you being selfish? That helped you to identify that maybe you need to change that.

[Offset]

Living for me. You can't live for you when you gotta live for a lot of other people.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Offset]

You got responsibilities as a man. You know what I mean? Is it real? Just the real.

[Joe Budden]

What. What's your favorite song on the project and why?

[Offset]

My favorite song on the project? See, I don't never have a favorite.

[Joe Budden]

Song like All My Babies.

[Offset]

Yeah, it's like.

[Ish]

It's like.

[Offset]

It's like. And then me. My thing is I sit when I sit with songs too long like I ain't been. I don't listen. I ain't listening to my. I don't want to listen. Listen to my album in the car no more. Cuz it made me think. Get the overthinking thinking, like, nah, this did this better. I need to do this. And it's like.

[Joe Budden]

Do you get demoitis?

[Offset]

Yes, for sure. Oh, with mix. Especially, like, with mixing. I know my mixer. I get on his nerve. I might be on. On the album. I think I. I was on mix 41. Each song.

[Parks]

Oh, damn.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Parks]

No, sir.

[Joe Budden]

No, sir. Sir Reborn. No, sir.

[Offset]

Rebound it be the smallest thing and make it pop. Like, it could be the simplest. It could be a sound in the beat. You can get a mix and then it ain't. It ain't even about. Sometimes a song. It ain't even about the words nowadays.

[Joe Budden]

It could be a piece of a.

[Offset]

Song that they hear that make them catch it and be like, oh, I love this song. And it might be dim down when the mix come, or compressed. It might be compressed when you do the masters.

[Joe Budden]

So, yeah, 41 is nuts.

[Parks]

41'S Alaska. That's like thriller shit.

[Joe Budden]

You should be arrested. Yeah. No, that's crazy craziness. What song on the album can we go to? To get the T. The T?

[Ish]

No.

[Joe Budden]

You know, that was the nice way of.

[Ish]

He found the smooth way to do it.

[Joe Budden]

That was a nice.

[Ish]

I've been trying to. Me too. That was a nice way to ask. I want to say, my man, you had no time to really process. He was a studio. You don't process these.

[Joe Budden]

Rapping is good with words. So he keep musicing me out of what I want to say.

[Ish]

Say he doing it fire, too.

[Joe Budden]

The song is the te.

[Ish]

Where is it at? What number?

[Offset]

Oh, oh, look, look, look.

[Ish]

The whole thing.

[Offset]

The whole project.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm telling you, the whole project.

[Joe Budden]

That new media.

[Flip]

It's sitting there on track one.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, okay.

[Offset]

I'll let y' all hear.

[Ish]

New media training.

[Flip]

I've listened. Oh, you heard it.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, I just heard the album. Parks heard the album.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I was supposed to hear the album. My girl.

[Offset]

I heard the album.

[Joe Budden]

Dog. He about to dog. But also. But also on that when people send me albums early, it is a thing for me because I like to buy it and have it downloaded and not have two copies. That's a joke thing.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

So I'm gonna just buy this album. I'll hear it, but I want to buy it and have my own. My own experience.

[Offset]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

And I'm not shifting through to see where the te is.

[Flip]

No, I just listen.

[Parks]

I just listen to.

[Flip]

I just listen. I was like, oh, yeah, there's a little.

[Parks]

There's teeth. There's teeth.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Flip]

Is it.

[Joe Budden]

Is it therapy T, or are you clapping at someone you love?

[Offset]

It's therapy. I ain't doing that on the album. Like, I ain't the shots. Like. Like I ain't doing that. I mean, I might, like, speak on what's like, life situations, but, like, I'm not doing. I told myself that ain't so.

[Flip]

You gotta.

[Joe Budden]

You're taking a high road.

[Offset]

That ain't the way to do it right. You know, I mean, too much involved, my family, kids. Like, that shit gonna be lame 10 years from now.

[Joe Budden]

That's just a fact. That is a fact.

[Offset]

Nah. So I ain't. I ain't on that. I ain't on that. But I. I'm expressing feelings of how I feel about certain things, but knowing.

[Joe Budden]

That you feel like that. Cause that's how niggas feel, right? Like, I went through some shit before, so. And I felt like now. I mean, this ain't how you carry it online. And yada, they don't never agree. No, no, they don't never agree. They're gonna get their off facts. How do you. Do you feel like any bar in outside was about you? Why do you feel about that song being about you?

[Offset]

I actually know about the song for the song come out, like, prior to the bullshit that was happening.

[Joe Budden]

So you can break some up. Yeah.

[Offset]

So I. It's. It's like, even though if they. If it is stuff at me, I ain't coming.

[Joe Budden]

It's about you.

[Offset]

I ain't.

[Ish]

I ain't new about.

[Joe Budden]

It ain't about nobody else but you.

[Melissa Ford]

Well, how you know beforehand? You said you found out beforehand.

[Ish]

Like, he was in the crib. I hear that shit you're doing in the other group. I hear that damn that shit knocking.

[Joe Budden]

That shit kind of hard.

[Offset]

Nah, it's like. It's just everything be a timing thing. Like that record been done for. Like, I know about the record. Like, I heard it. I know the record. I mean, it's been done. It's not like a thing. It looked like how it looked, you.

[Ish]

Know, so it was done before everything you said you've been heard the record.

[Offset]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

But shit get a new life when it get to the public now. Now when I'm outside and it's spitting bars about this, it's different. Knowing if. Knowing what's coming and then it hidden and if.

[Parks]

Even if the record was made when was all good.

[Joe Budden]

The world don't know. The world don't know that.

[Flip]

The world don't know that.

[Offset]

But at the same time, all eyes on me, Tupac. I'mma drop some and I'mma drop the Same day, remember?

[Joe Budden]

Yes, he did.

[Offset]

And check, check straight streams.

[Joe Budden]

Walk me, walk me through putting Jid on. On that record.

[Offset]

So me and Jib been locked in for about two years trying to do shit. He's from Atlanta, but to me, he like, he. He ain't no with him lyrically in. In our city, you know what I mean? And I seen his show, like his impact versus the public opinion. He touching folks for real. I went to his channel. He sell out Coca Cola 5002 nights in a row. When it might be a nigga that might be more popular and more famous than him.

[Flip]

Can't do that.

[Offset]

Can't sell out 2,000. You know what I'm saying? So I like the fact that he built. He got his fan base. It's a cult of them. And I just respect his artistry.

[Joe Budden]

And I love. It's a slow bake. He ain't rushing. He ain't rushing to do nothing.

[Flip]

He tough.

[Joe Budden]

He's slow baking, doing what he want to do.

[Parks]

I think y' all dropping the same day too, right?

[Joe Budden]

No, no, they don't drop the same day. Jen is actually coming in later. Yeah, but yeah, him on. On the last verse of this.

[Offset]

And then I like. I feel like the game been coming. Like the same repeated collabs with bro. Like I want to go different with niggas. Yo, I'm trying to go. I want you. Because the point of a collab is hearing somebody you never thought you'd hear them with. You know what I mean? The biggest records in hip hop be like that. You know what I mean? So it like I just want to go different. Different artists touch different places.

[Flip]

Like that's. That's how I felt when I saw you had the record with Young. I was like, oh, okay. This could go either way.

[Joe Budden]

And he said reach out and work with a.

[Flip]

Though that might be my favorite one.

[Offset]

I'm cooking, man. I'm trying to work.

[Melissa Ford]

Is there an artist that you want to collaborate with that like nobody would ever think of, like a country artist, something like that?

[Flip]

Yeah, some countries. Adele or some.

[Melissa Ford]

Right.

[Offset]

Adele on a song is hard.

[Melissa Ford]

That would be hard. Yeah.

[Offset]

I ain't going to lie. That's hard. But.

[Parks]

It don't got.

[Flip]

Somebody wouldn't pair with you.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Or hip hop from like a different region or some that you never did.

[Melissa Ford]

Like KRS1 or something like totally out there.

[Offset]

KRS1. I mean, shout out to the OG Wuang. That'll be hard. Just cuz I come from a group.

[Joe Budden]

You know what I mean?

[Offset]

That should Be hard.

[Joe Budden]

That would be. How do you feel about the. The. When they do the group rankings and where people typically place or where these lists typically place Migos in the all time rankings of groups?

[Parks]

It'd be high. Usually we be high.

[Offset]

It'd be hard because it be like. It'd be like, you got to respect the. The OGs, you know what I mean? That played that put the ground.

[Joe Budden]

Put.

[Offset]

Put the payment on the ground. We be always in the high. I don't ever feel like it's. No, I ain't never seen. It was like, man, what the fuck? Nah, I ain't never seen that. I hate when they pin us against each other, though. That's when they compare us. No, like, separately.

[Flip]

Oh, yes. Your brothers.

[Offset]

Yeah, I hate that shit. That shit be lying. Cause, like, I don't pay no mind to that shit, though. But it just be. I don't like that, though.

[Joe Budden]

I feel like toward the end of. End of takeoff again. Rest in peace.

[Parks]

Rest in peace.

[Joe Budden]

People started to understand what y' all did individually.

[Offset]

Yeah, you know how the game be. They want to give you flowers when. When. When you're gone. Man, that man been the best. Everybody said now, but he been the best.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know if I ever thanked you for getting me lit. I don't know. I don't know if I ever thanked you for this. Hold up, man. Let me hit the round. Let me hit the round of applause. Hold up, hold up. It is a classic. That's one of the best moments in hip hop history. It is, it is. So we gotta appreciate it. But so many, for years, even to.

[Offset]

This day, think that you talking about the BT thing.

[Joe Budden]

Huh?

[Offset]

What you talking about?

[Ish]

Yeah, the BT thing.

[Joe Budden]

And the record shout out to academic too. And the record shout out to AC Shout out to man, but yeah, n the Joe Button. The Joe Button dis the video with the impersonate. I was like, wait, what? Every strip club I went in for a little while, who's on your ass? Ass n them was like jumping. All right. I was just like, all right. That is a hit. These little is hot.

[Offset]

Why we always with you though, Cuz? You ain't never like, even with that situation. You always show love like, and respect a art, you know what I mean? Listen, D, y' all be on my ass on here sometime, though. You be on my ass.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, Speaking of. Because then that I'm now remembering all the times we got on your ass. What do you say to the people that say you got to stop the Internet shenanigans you have to stop replying to anybody, subbing anybody. Just put it in the music and that's that. Cuz people were saying that for a little bit.

[Offset]

Yeah. And I stopped. I listen.

[Joe Budden]

That's true.

[Offset]

See, I'm an artist.

[Joe Budden]

Listen to the fan base.

[Offset]

I'm. I ain't going to act like I don't see it. I listen. But at the same time.

[Flip]

You know, emotions be moved.

[Offset]

You live and you learn.

[Melissa Ford]

Do you think that you're depicted unfairly in the media?

[Offset]

Not unfairly. Cause that's like some bitch ass shit. It's just like it's really on some. It's really on some. Like sometimes you gotta take what you did, player. Sometimes you gotta. But, but, and then the media ain't.

[Joe Budden]

Make me got a therapist or something.

[Flip]

It's a grown man shit, nigga.

[Offset]

And I don't come from social media. I'm not a social media act. That popped from social media. I had a Billboard record when I had 9,000 followers. I'll never forget Versace going all the way up, going crazy. I got 9,000 followers. I didn't come from that. Like I didn't come from going viral to make records. I came from like bad. And bougie went number one in 16 weeks. That shit ain't got damn popping go viral. I was number one this week. Then it's gone. So I be thankful for that too. Cause sometimes time it be just talk. And then like for instance I drop by this like check the streaming, them dumpers is coming in. So it's like sometimes I don't let that blind me. I've been going through the media so long that like you gotta let them win and know like that it's real, but it's fake too. As long as you come with good product, you gotta come with good product. Music, good music. You gotta remember that liked you for music.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Offset]

Be forgetting that man like you for the songs you make. They don't like you for whatever the hell you doing back flips on the Internet. They gonna fuck with it. Cause you made the name off of the music. So you gotta just turn that shit back to the music. So that's all I'm doing.

[Joe Budden]

I want to ask you, earlier you spoke about all your different businesses. Can you go through all of those different business? The fashion this, the that, and with that. How much longer do you see yourself rapping?

[Offset]

Oh shit. How long do I see myself rapping?

[Joe Budden]

Cause I'm looking at you, it's kind of me up a little bit, right? Cause You.

[Flip]

You shouting out the OGs.

[Joe Budden]

And I'm like, yo, this N is a veteran.

[Flip]

You are even like he said, not coming from the social media era. All that. Like, that's veteran.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Flip]

And that was organic.

[Joe Budden]

So do you see?

[Offset]

But if you look at the veteran artists, right? Like you saying them niggas last. We lasting, yo. Cause we came from. We don't have that, cuz. See, if you. I feel like, like, no. Not saying to nobody. If you come from the Internet. The Internet turns and like they got like. The Internet changes.

[Joe Budden]

Everybody give a turn.

[Offset]

You see what I'm saying? It changes. And they followers.

[Flip]

Yep.

[Offset]

So like if a. Say your. If you got a. If. If. If you start having a train of saying your sound the same a thousand more f to say that, then a million people gonna come and say that. You gotta beat that because you come from that. I feel like we used to sell. We sold. Our first album was CDs, Brother. We had to sell that motherfucker ain't do nothing but some 10,000, some bullshit, 8,000, some like that. But it's groundwork, nigga. I did a show for 2,000. 5,000. 10,000. It wasn't. No. I did a song on the Internet. Oh, I can go pick up 100,000.

[Flip]

Go get 50 grand a more.

[Offset]

You not building no fan base. When I feel like the Internet shit be sometime handicapping niggas. Cause you not building a fan base.

[Joe Budden]

They do hip hop today. Want to erase that. That little adjustment period had before streaming took over from 0809 to maybe 2012, where was doing 20,000, 15,000, 17,000, 30,000. It wasn't astronomical numbers. Go build your. But that was happening.

[Flip]

But they could push the button for a new artist because it's 50 new artists coming next week. So they can make you go crazy.

[Joe Budden]

We got another.

[Flip]

We see it go. I don't say no names, but we see it.

[Parks]

And those 10, 20, 15, whatever. Thousand were usually more like real sales.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

As opposed to equivalent of streams, which who knows what the.

[Joe Budden]

That even means.

[Flip]

Regional. And then that just.

[Joe Budden]

What's up? We got bundle, Chris Green. We doing bundles. Where'd Chris go? We got bundles.

[Offset]

It's different.

[Joe Budden]

Huh?

[Offset]

What do you say?

[Joe Budden]

We got. We doing bundles.

[Offset]

Bundles.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Offset]

What's bundles?

[Joe Budden]

Bundle package with the album where they do the. They were giving you a T shirt. T shirt, socks and the hoodie.

[Offset]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

Boxes.

[Joe Budden]

I want an offset. Hoodie.

[Melissa Ford]

Box sets.

[Offset]

Oh, I got you.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I want to offset.

[Offset]

No, I'm going that way.

[Joe Budden]

I Want an offset hoodie from. From. Yeah, off you one of the fashionable out.

[Offset]

Ain't nothing wrong with it. Y' all don't like the Bundles.

[Joe Budden]

I know that's no problem.

[Melissa Ford]

You benefit from it. You absolutely do.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I'm not mad at the Bundles. My beef with the Bundles is. Well, used to be beef with the Bundles was that that option wasn't allowed to everybody, but now are doing about.

[Offset]

Yeah, yeah. But they take everything else from us too, though, bro. I feel like they be trying to deteriorate the music, man. Cuz what counts for, like, how they be changing shit. What counts for shit? Yeah, shit be in hip hop a lot too, bro. I'mma keep it real. Shit be in hip hop a lot, bro. It be discounted, like, down playing. I don't know if they wanted to stop giving us the money, but.

[Joe Budden]

Well, yes, you want to stop giving.

[Offset]

Us, but it be. And then my bonus be really. People, I see my shit. It ain't like I'm doing that shit for numbers. I see my shit. I drop denim chairs, collab and box sets. I see niggas. I see my shit on Stockx. I sold it for $30, motherfucker. $250. I see my shirt. I see my clothes on people on their birthday, wearing the merch to this day. It's two years ago. See what I'm saying? So I see it like. I don't know. For my people, it be like collectibles and shit like that. And then it be like a hustle thing too. Like, because with fashion, there's two sides. There's street and there's professional. I mean, it's corporate, but the street is what run everything. It helps just like anything else. Just like hip hop, we mold everything and then don't get to glorify for it. So I meet both worlds with it. Like when I dropped my clap with Tremaine and then the tears shout out to him, I knew his brand was focused on Tremaine, our people, you know what I'm saying? But then I knew I could bring other people. And then we collided together, make it make sense. And you see the work. It ain't like you just. Cause I know what you. I know what your beef is with the bundles and niggas dropping bondage. And you don't see the work, you just see a number and then it's gone.

[Joe Budden]

Well, that's the label game they play. That's the label game that they play. I'm with. Listen. Niggas put they blood, sweat and tears into an album. Niggas package they whole life from however many years to put in this album. I'm not with. Hey, we sold this the first week and then that album go away.

[Offset]

I don't fuck with the first week. All that old shit though. I feel like that first we then.

[Flip]

But you just said y' all ain't come from that.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Flip]

So that's why you don't put no much. That much stock into that, cuz.

[Offset]

Cuz when you drop a record, it's good. You're gonna see it.

[Parks]

Yeah. So many classes.

[Offset]

You're gonna feel it, you're gonna see it. When the see you, they're gonna say, that record.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Offset]

That's how I knew bodies was working. Cuz every time I see somebody, they not like talking about baton booze or worth it or no like that. They like, but they watch that bodies. This shit hard part. You're gonna see it. And when you can see it, it's gonna last. I ain't trying to. I rather. I swear to God, I'd rather drop a song that go top 30 and it end up number one. Then drop a song to go top 10. It's gone to 98 next week.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Offset]

Swear I do.

[Joe Budden]

And that's the label games.

[Offset]

I'm cool. I'm cool with that. I rather build my shit up.

[Parks]

Yeah. So many classics that didn't do first week. Classic albums. Like some of our favorite albums of all time.

[Joe Budden]

Dude. Yeah.

[Parks]

Nothing.

[Joe Budden]

Absolutely nothing.

[Offset]

Then it's just an album. Sixteen weeks like a year later or some like that. Then sza drop an album and it popped like a year later or something.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. And stayed popping till now.

[Offset]

That mean that built, built, built, built. Why everybody. Everybody cool.

[Joe Budden]

When I came out 02 03, the whole industry was laughing. I think Sean Paul dropped and did like 15,000 or something like. And that continued to go up. Every single. Single after single, Sean Paul run to like 3 million, 4 million.

[Flip]

So I was like, what the fuck.

[Joe Budden]

Is going on out here? Yeah, I'm 61 of you. Come on, Paul don't play with Sean Paul.

[Offset]

Music gotta touch people. And like, not just for the moment.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, that's when I realized, yo, lately I just been. I've been back in my rap bag. I'm playing rap music in my car, right? And what I'm realizing in the past two weeks, niggas are no longer making music to hit people in their heart.

[Melissa Ford]

No.

[Joe Budden]

Like you just making it for the playlist or the stream. These songs that I'm going to, you.

[Flip]

You feel Something as soon as they cut on, soon as it comes.

[Joe Budden]

They talking about 20 years ago, 30 years ago, 15 years ago, 2000, they hit me.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know what they sold. I don't know what they did.

[Offset]

Oh, don't do that. You can't. On the young. Some that got pain. They got pain music.

[Joe Budden]

But wait, I'm not saying that the young don't have that.

[Offset]

Ain't listen to it.

[Joe Budden]

But wait, this applies to the young too. Anybody making music make. You have to make a song that is hidden, that is hitting somebody in they. In their soul. It don't have to be about pain. It could be about shopping.

[Flip]

Could be about shopping.

[Melissa Ford]

Who do you think is making music right now that's gonna stand the test.

[Offset]

Of time making music right now?

[Joe Budden]

Yes. Who?

[Offset]

I ain't no hater, so I'm gonna say Broadway for sure.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay. Give me that.

[Offset]

He's talking stories and it's like relatable shit. He always talking about some shit. Relatable shit. It don't like when you hear his music, it don't really sound like he a rapper. He sound like he walking on the street with you. That's the type of. That's going to work. Generational that ain't already in. Like my peers. Away from my peers.

[Joe Budden]

Right.

[Melissa Ford]

Younger than you. Younger than you.

[Offset]

Longevity. See, that's not my peers.

[Melissa Ford]

Right? See.

[Offset]

Don. To Sullivan.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Offset]

I love it. The boy, Don. Amazing.

[Joe Budden]

Make music for your. For your heart and soul. Yeah.

[Offset]

And he could turn up some. Like, got different lanes.

[Joe Budden]

He turn it up. He turn it down. He keep the stove on the mid fire.

[Offset]

He can go sold on each other.

[Melissa Ford]

When we're talking about music that's like, you know, that has longevity to it. It's like music becomes the soundtrack of your life. Like, we remember where we were when we heard such and such. I remember where I was the first time I heard y'.

[Joe Budden]

All.

[Melissa Ford]

I remember exactly where I was.

[Joe Budden]

Little fat self.

[Ish]

Let's go.

[Joe Budden]

Where you was at when you first.

[Offset]

Heard where you was at?

[Ish]

Where you was at live on Monday. Where you was at when you heard Bamboo?

[Melissa Ford]

I wasn't in a club. I was in a Chinese restaurant.

[Joe Budden]

Tropez.

[Melissa Ford]

No, I was in a ch. I was in Mission Chinese on the Lower east side. That's where I was. Okay. Yeah. And with a. I was getting chicken.

[Joe Budden]

Nigga. Get some General.

[Melissa Ford]

No, here's the crazy part is I was there with Q Tip and he hadn't heard of you either.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not name dropping.

[Ish]

Oh, my God. You only got somebody named.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not.

[Ish]

Salute. Qt. We love you.

[Joe Budden]

Shout out to qt. We got it.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm trying to make a point. He and I had both not heard of you. And when you came on, we were like, yo, who the fuck is this? Like, it was that instantaneous reaction. And that's what I'm saying. Like, music becomes the soundtrack of. Of your life.

[Joe Budden]

Don't say Q Tip name again till he come up here. You got about two years.

[Melissa Ford]

You gotta work that out.

[Joe Budden]

And it's her second time implying that there's a Q Tip beef with Joe. Yes.

[Melissa Ford]

Is it? Okay, listen, we have a guest. Okay? We always do this.

[Joe Budden]

I have.

[Flip]

That's true.

[Joe Budden]

I have a fashion question for you. Do you feel like Chrome Hearts is oversaturated and overrated? And do you feel like you should be paid from the fucking every sale of some of this chrome hard shit going on?

[Offset]

Okay, let me answer this.

[Joe Budden]

All right.

[Offset]

Chrome Heart been out since 1980 something.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, 89. We got it 92. Somewhere around there.

[Offset]

It's a hype. So you can't shit on it. At the end of the day, it's a hype. It's a hype. It's hype. It's like the kids. Like, it's not. Cause fashion always come back, bro. And I don't give a damn. Big T shirts. Niggas be wearing big clothes now. And used to be talking about it back in day, like, what the fuck.

[Flip]

They got five years ago?

[Offset]

Big clothes, big oversized clothes. I do. I don't want to shit on Kai Faux with them. But it's like, me personally, I done it so much that it's burnt out in my closet. I'm not going that way. You know what I mean? I'm not going that way. And then I feel like the people make it the way it's expensive and shit like that. So you can't really hate on the brand for that. That's the people doing that. That's what they want to pay for. You know what I mean? You can't shit on the brand. Cause when it come out, it ain't that expensive. As high as it is in the street resale. But how they do it, they smart. They give you. They might make five belts, bro, and give it to LA, and three and five belts for Miami and that's it. So it's 10 belts. So it's like. And I know a couple young cats in fashion that make hundreds of thousands of dollars selling this shit.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah, that's part of what's stepping on the dope.

[Flip]

So supply and demand. And supply and demand.

[Offset]

Supply and demand. Saying gonna do that?

[Joe Budden]

No, you're not. We not. No, no.

[Offset]

Just like leaks on music. Selling that.

[Joe Budden]

No, no.

[Offset]

It's a website where all our songs on that 1500. You get the whole song.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Offset]

I'm telling you, he's telling the truth. It's just be a hustle and everything. So if the consumer is paying, you can't get mad at what it's costing. Cause these niggas paying.

[Joe Budden]

Give me the perfect opponent for offset.

[Offset]

Versus a perfect component for offset versus. Yeah, a versus.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, a offset versus which is anything Offset breathed around versus anything you breathed around.

[Flip]

It's hard.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Offset]

Like me versus me.

[Flip]

No, he can include Migos. He can include any song he ever been on.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, the verse is rules. Yeah.

[Offset]

Can't go versus with no like me. I got Migo catalog in mind. I got Migo catalog in mind.

[Joe Budden]

How you going to go? We.

[Offset]

We going be able to go for four hours.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Talk happy, though.

[Offset]

I don't give a damn who they is. I got catalog I got that's worldwide. I got. That's in the trap. I got in the script club. That's hits, though.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Flip]

It's tough.

[Joe Budden]

You can't listen. I don't see nobody say nothing about it. It's tough. Ain't nobody say nothing to you about it.

[Offset]

Especially, like on groups too old or young. We could pull up. We always had that conversation. Like, when it come to that, I just feel like my shit. Like, I know the be barriers we broke, man. We first came out telling us we rap like goofies like gumbo. Like what they was saying Bubblegum.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't understand what the. You.

[Flip]

Especially in New York. We had it.

[Joe Budden]

I ain't going. I was late on. I was late on the music. When y' all was dog. Fight night was going off, and I was just old and stubborn.

[Offset]

That's what I was.

[Joe Budden]

Just old. I was old and stubborn. That's it. But when I got past that. Oh, my dog. Oh, you see what she started doing? I'm just saying, once I got past all that. I know what I was on some. But that fight night and all that, that's why you got to get out your own way so you can appreciate music in the moment the way it's supposed to be appreciated.

[Offset]

That's the bag I've been to Point.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Flip]

So you remember where you was on fight night?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Not in the Chinese joint with a. Yeah. Mission.

[Parks]

We Used to play Migos records at Joe Bunch shows.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

So we might have been late, but we wasn't dinosaur late. Like slow, slow, slow late.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, no, no. We were later than we normally be on, but we was earlier than the rest of the world. Yeah. You know, we was playing off off that. This what I got for you.

[Offset]

What the was you doing walking outside and naked? I'mma ask you some.

[Joe Budden]

You want to ask me?

[Offset]

I'm ask you.

[Joe Budden]

I'm ask you.

[Melissa Ford]

Hold on.

[Ish]

This my man. You open the door. By the way. You open the door.

[Joe Budden]

This is my brother.

[Ish]

This my man. You open the door now.

[Joe Budden]

He going.

[Ish]

He open the door immediately.

[Joe Budden]

Cool. I don't care. Oh, that was a rough night.

[Offset]

This a wild night.

[Joe Budden]

That, that. That was a rough night. You know what happened? Know what happened? That was a. That was a Wednesday morning that. That happened. So we recorded all day through Tuesday. I took my fast little ass to starlets. They think Winnie or Edot, somebody was working where it was just, oh, I got home a little late and yeah, I slept. Walk right out the curb. I slept, walked. So I had. There's about three reported. Not reported, but documented. Remembered incidents of me sleepwalking. And I slept. Walked to the wrong door at the wrong time.

[Offset]

Happens to the best of us, man. I'm talking about just crazy shit in life.

[Joe Budden]

Nut shit happened to me. Nut nigga, shit happens to me. So I get it. I get it. That's a wild story of what you was doing walking down to the neighbor's.

[Ish]

Butt ass fuck was you doing?

[Joe Budden]

What was you on that day?

[Offset]

I ain't believe when I seen it.

[Joe Budden]

I smell.

[Offset]

Hell no.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't believe you when they told me. I didn't believe what they told me. A said, yo, we. You slept, walked to somebody. I said, is this on camera?

[Parks]

You thought he was getting pumped.

[Joe Budden]

I thought it was a joke, like a prison on camera.

[Offset]

It ain't on camera though.

[Joe Budden]

If it ain't. They kicked me out my crib. I was fighting Ludinus charges, all types of. That was a rough little month, Dan. I mean, forget the question.

[Melissa Ford]

I wanted to ask us all out, actually. Yeah, we all had to go.

[Offset]

Everybody had to go.

[Joe Budden]

That was a tough month up here. But. But gang stood strong. We survived. Yeah, we got through it. Came back better than we did. Holy shit. You got any more questions for me? Give me, Give me this. Give me this. On a. On a. On a light Monday, what are we throwing in? Strip club. Just on a light New York. I'm. I'm On New York. I'm not on nothing in New York light cuz this be in the New York. I know. He said I know, I know, I know. Light Monday night. What are we throwing in there?

[Offset]

There Light Monday night.

[Joe Budden]

Going a light Monday 10 piece. Wait, what? God damn. That's a light light Monday.

[Ish]

What's a heavy?

[Joe Budden]

What's a heavy? Yeah, now they don't trick. They not into none of that. They not into what you're saying.

[Offset]

You might go follow just off the vibe. Just off what's going on.

[Joe Budden]

The vibe is right.

[Ish]

But then also too off the vibe.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Offset]

Sometimes I go to the studio, go to the. Go to strip club to play my records because that's how I used to hear my. In the club I used to go to. We used to go on a. We might go to Magic on daytime on Wednesday just to hear our songs. So sometimes you. Sometime it be like a down there promos.

[Parks]

Oh, so that's. That's a write off then. I was doing, I was doing research, market research.

[Ish]

It ain't even that.

[Offset]

It's just like I gotta hear my. In the club. Like if I drop an album, we got to go to the club and hear hit the songs.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Offset]

Because it'll sound good in your headphones. And then you play in the club and your be low. And then sometimes that's how you get.

[Flip]

To 41 with the mixer.

[Offset]

Sometimes atmos. But sometimes atmos play. They playing to a system of computers. Like they're not playing these don't have these playing. I go from DJ game. These niggas got your song on their computer as a file.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Offset]

So that need to be hidden. And so a lot of times to be on some like that, you go private. Because I sometimes I don't want to. Like a lot of New York clubs don't have it like that. Like the private little session. You go private session and you just see the vibe of the room when you playing the new records and how it sound.

[Joe Budden]

They got a private section just after the club closed.

[Offset]

See our private session different. I don't want that private.

[Joe Budden]

After the club closed, she'll send you the attitude. They said 40 if the vibe is right. God damn it. They can talk big money.

[Flip]

I don't want nobody. I'm cool. I don't even like vibes.

[Offset]

You be in there too.

[Joe Budden]

Oh you goddamn right.

[Offset]

Don't do me like that.

[Joe Budden]

They raised me.

[Offset]

You getting that too.

[Joe Budden]

They raised me. You. But you get in there on Monday.

[Offset]

I know you going 5,000 low key. Trying to Be low key in the corner. I know how you go.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, depending on who working. You got to see what the lineup is. I checked before I came. I checked the lineup. I went to check the flyers to see what was going on before I got it. Light little fire. Light little fire. But 40. 40 is like. Is it my birthday?

[Offset]

That's a heavy. That's what I'm saying. It's not some like that heavy.

[Parks]

He said heavy Friday.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, and that we got to do 40. Come on. Ish. Who me and you?

[Flip]

I don't know Ish. I don't even know no name Ish. Are you crazy?

[Joe Budden]

The legacy of Offset. When it's all said and done. What? What? What would you like that to be when it. When, when you hang it up? Well, not when you hang it up.

[Offset]

Well, when it's you trying to make hang it up too early.

[Joe Budden]

That's not true.

[Parks]

No, no. You got another 10, 20, 33 years old.

[Joe Budden]

But. But okay, even that when you are 55. When you are 60, at the end.

[Offset]

Of the day, Buddy made his. Never came with him. He made his.

[Joe Budden]

No, that's a fact.

[Parks]

That's already said that's a fact.

[Joe Budden]

You good on that one. No, no, no. They can't with me no more.

[Offset]

You saying like when it's over with what I want people to say. Yeah, or I want them to just like appreciate the art and the time and the hits.

[Parks]

How long could you imagine yourself rapping? Could you imagine rapping in your 50s?

[Offset]

Hell no.

[Joe Budden]

Why? Why? He gonna have too much money in his 50s, yo. Why? That may be true.

[Flip]

He gonna have too much money in his 50s, man.

[Offset]

First off, bro, you 50, nigga ain't trying to hit you. First and foremost.

[Joe Budden]

That's just not true.

[Flip]

That's not true.

[Joe Budden]

I feel like no people are trying.

[Melissa Ford]

To get 3,000 to come back act.

[Flip]

This is the opposite of the young argument that you was just telling us who your favorite three rappers.

[Offset]

When you're 50 years old and you haven't put a stain in the game where appreciate you, they don't want to hear that.

[Melissa Ford]

Have put the stain.

[Offset]

You said Andre, right?

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah.

[Offset]

Is one of my favorite artists in the world. I want him to drop an album too.

[Melissa Ford]

Everybody does.

[Joe Budden]

But he felt saxophone album respect his art.

[Offset]

So that's why you want to do that. It's about the pink, the paint the picture.

[Melissa Ford]

But the argument right now is that some of the best music being dropped is by the vets.

[Offset]

But the vets is my people, my generation.

[Melissa Ford]

No, no older than you. Wu Tang.

[Joe Budden]

Well, you included in that. You a vet now. Wait, wait, hold on.

[Offset]

What's the statement you just said? You said, you said that they saying older. You saying what? Say it again.

[Melissa Ford]

They're saying some of the best music being dropped right now is by the OGs right now.

[Offset]

Being dropped.

[Parks]

Clips. Clips is clips.

[Melissa Ford]

Nas.

[Flip]

Like there's they upper 40s, early 50s eclipse.

[Joe Budden]

Right, right. Malice.

[Ish]

50 something years old.

[Melissa Ford]

52. Mal is 52.

[Offset]

So that's okay.

[Melissa Ford]

We're basically saying that when you get to 50, process. Okay, sorry, I'm trying.

[Offset]

Yeah, yeah yeah.

[Flip]

If you 50 going to still want.

[Parks]

To hear you that the part.

[Flip]

Even though your body of work.

[Joe Budden]

True.

[Melissa Ford]

Yo this, you know you take your fan base with you.

[Joe Budden]

They, they grow with you.

[Offset]

Look at all the cuz. Listen, this the thing about this thing about this the thing about music, right? The richest in music in hip hop that I see them had their hands on fashion, got their big bag from fashion and then went left on some other business. You want me to name them?

[Flip]

You right, go ahead.

[Joe Budden]

We all know, we know but go ahead.

[Offset]

It's a little controversial with their name, but I don't judge for whatever they got going on. But yay, Puff, Jay Z and Puff bro. If you look at all them three, the got real chicken after music with the brands with, with with clothing and then took that money and did whatever they did with to make whoever they is now.

[Parks]

But some of them still made music.

[Flip]

All of them still make music. All of them continue making.

[Offset]

That's why I was saying my comment. What I was saying you, you have to be at legacy in your youth days to be able to do that shit.

[Parks]

But you that if you 50, yeah, you that.

[Offset]

I don't want to be rapping 50. I'm trying to be low to baked potato, you know what I mean? I'm trying to have so much of.

[Ish]

That shit, sour cream and chives.

[Offset]

I'm trying to do that shit like ho n I could drop in seven years and then it's gonna go crazy.

[Joe Budden]

So let's try it a different way. When you hit your 50th birthday, how much money you want to have?

[Offset]

50Th birthday pay minimum a billion dollars. Cuz I look at stats, I look at money and look at stats, right? If you look at the stats, ain't no touch, no 500 million in their 30s, it's always 46, 44 you got right.

[Flip]

It's coming earlier.

[Offset]

They just took the money. They did some money when they was young, when they had all the hype and everybody following in the leadership. But if you just trying to come out at 50 and like I don't wanna say no name. And certain niggas can't just drop no album right now.

[Joe Budden]

Oh it's a fact. Oh no, no.

[Offset]

That done had hits though.

[Joe Budden]

That's a fact. Yeah, I tweeted that shit the other day. It's people that had a wave of run with and I don't feel like.

[Offset]

When the people were saying about the. The older acts of making better music, I feel like they talking about like my world. I feel like. Cause we technically older acts. Cause we've been in the gang over 10 years and it's the same niggas that I was running with that's running shit now. True to be honest.

[Melissa Ford]

Like in hip hop and also there is a billionaire in the.

[Offset]

You got the thugs, you got the gunners, you got the. It's the same where all this used to be in the studio. So it like that's what I see is making the shit that's sticking currently. I feel like hip hop always gonna respect good hip hop at the end of the day.

[Parks]

Facts.

[Joe Budden]

That's true. I agree.

[Offset]

But these niggas is trendy niggas now. The game changed. Sorry sirs. Is trendy. Is trendy. You know what I mean? Like don't even respect like how I make an album now is not how I made it out in the beginning. Like in the beginning it used to be like appreciate album. They wanna you let a get into the hard banging hit. These young want to hear six songs. If the first six songs ain't smacking, they cut your album and they want short records. You better put that pressure off Rip.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, also I do want to make one correction. There is a billionaire there who made it in their 30s.

[Joe Budden]

Who?

[Melissa Ford]

Rihanna.

[Offset]

See, that's one of a kind. Riri is one of a kind. I'm talking about age bracket.

[Melissa Ford]

True. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

And.

[Flip]

And I think they coming younger and.

[Joe Budden]

Younger even with a bill.

[Flip]

They got a blueprint now. They have a blueprint to follow now.

[Offset]

Rihanna. When fashion the artist. You're going to make money out of that fashion, bro make. It ain't about just the shows you're going and it's building the people that want or tech.

[Melissa Ford]

It's building like like niggas. He did really, really incredible investments early fellas.

[Joe Budden]

Let that Mel is right. Let that Rihanna story inspire you. You could find you a 30 year old billionaire. Put two babies up in them, take them out to gang squash Quan Squat, squat. Make Them quit the music. That's like Rocky for niggas in the hoods. Shout out to Rihanna. Shout out to Rocky.

[Offset]

Bro, that up, bro.

[Joe Budden]

I be up sometimes.

[Offset]

Look, bro, be real, bro. Be putting in work and then you'll get downplayed for some like, you downplay you down playing him and put in work, though.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, I can't. No, no, no, no.

[Offset]

Be trying to disappear.

[Joe Budden]

Work. Yeah.

[Offset]

Impression or something like. Or when you get with it, that shit be lame. As players, we can't do that.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, you hear him? You heard him, right? It's players. I'm not a player. I'm super faithful to my. Like, I'm not a.

[Flip]

He don't mean that kind of player.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, just keeping it beat.

[Flip]

He mean, like, keeping it beat because he. Cause he went with somebody that got a little bit more bread, maybe a lot of more bread than him. You can't just diminish. Diminish what he's done.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, he's absolutely right in that. You thought I was going to disagree.

[Ish]

Like, if you went and got somebody.

[Flip]

That was a B up, be like that bum ass Joe Button.

[Joe Budden]

If I went and got somebody that was a B up, I would expect to hear more pump it up hate than I have.

[Flip]

And I wouldn't care.

[Joe Budden]

To start having an opinion. I. I get that. Damn you, man. Made me forget my question I was to ask.

[Melissa Ford]

You're really excited about it, too.

[Joe Budden]

I'm excited to have this.

[Melissa Ford]

No, I know this.

[Joe Budden]

Like, we keeping it cool, but God damn.

[Ish]

You got too much media. He got like, the Jacoby and Myers media training nigga. The ill nigga nigga, the way you answering questions, you know, like, I'm Jim me, bro.

[Offset]

And then you want me to say some sucker shit.

[Ish]

No, I don't want you to be a sucker. You don't give me that. No, no. Oh, got it.

[Joe Budden]

I back.

[Ish]

I remember that.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, thank you, Flip. I'm so glad I remembered my messy ass glass. I am so glad you know how mad I'd have been if this had walked out. I forgot my messy. You know I'm a messy.

[Ish]

I'm down with you. He open the door.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, we was arguing up here. Yeah, multiple pods. We argued up here. And you the perfect one to settle this if you. What was our debate? Cause I don't want to do it on him. Because I'm not talking about him. I just want him to address our debate. If someone cheats up and down. Up or down, which one hurts more? That was our debate.

[Offset]

If somebody cheat up or Down.

[Joe Budden]

Like, if me and Mel are together and I cheat on her and I.

[Melissa Ford]

Go get some dusty ass or. And then I end up with.

[Joe Budden]

Or somebody that's Idris. Idris. Can't.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm just. We're making a point.

[Joe Budden]

We're just making. Married. You name me married men again for sake.

[Ish]

Stop going. Stop doing whistling.

[Melissa Ford]

Pick a soccer player.

[Offset]

My truth, I ain't never met none that I left went up, so I don't know how to expand. I don't know.

[Ish]

Talk that shit. Talk that shit.

[Joe Budden]

Nigga.

[Ish]

Chill out. Nigga. Crazy son.

[Offset]

I'm Hemothy Jones. So, like, every situation I ever seen go on, it didn't work out. It's. How can I say this?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, there you go. There you go. There you go. I got a question.

[Offset]

It's like. It's like the unseen season version. I mean, like. I mean, I ain't never seen no upward where I'm like, damn. Now. Now I feel like it'd be a lot of. It'd be a lot of people that. I don't know how. Look at theyself. Me, myself, I ain't never lost something anymore.

[Joe Budden]

Talking that.

[Ish]

Hold on, let me ask you. Wait, wait, the. He said he handled things too macho. Listen, so let me ask you a question, because now that up, right now I'm here with everything. Listen, let me ask you a question.

[Offset]

Yeah.

[Ish]

So when are you able to show your emotions? When are you able. Who do you show that you're hurt to? Cause you say, I surround myself with people that do music. So obviously we all know the elephant in the room, what's going on. So if you surround yourself with people in the music, that's sort of like a filler or like a shield, you're not able to really sit down. Wait, hold on. You're not able to really sit down and really process what's going on. When do you have that time to yourself, like, process?

[Offset]

It's the same thing I said earlier. Cause I hear what you're saying. You basically saying, like, who do I talk to?

[Ish]

Cause some shit be going on. It be bullshit.

[Offset]

I'm hurt or I'm hurt or some shit like that.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, right.

[Offset]

I'm a real nigga, right? I'm a Sagittarius man.

[Joe Budden]

Right?

[Offset]

As a man, it's my birthday. Like, I have to understand what is the cause and effect of some shit, bro.

[Ish]

Okay?

[Offset]

Feel what I'm saying. All that pounding. A nigga will say it's a cause and effect, bro. Dead serious. It's a Cause and effect of shit. And I'm a man. I ain't no girl. So I'm saying, so as a man, I got to know it's a cause and effect.

[Ish]

So you saying that even if a situation happened, whatever, you know what caused it and you're sure a situation.

[Joe Budden]

Six.

[Offset]

Months after a situation, you see what I'm saying? You'll see some shit because it's the outside. I'm in the public. I'm in a public situation. So you gonna see it. When you see it, and then your opinion come.

[Melissa Ford]

Then it's like, but it's already happened.

[Flip]

But you done.

[Ish]

But what about the bullshit that happened in real time that you have to deal with in real time when you're looking at it? How do you deal with that? You just like, I'm.

[Offset]

I mean, I'm a human being. You seen me say some dumb shit sometimes. And I mean. But then I just had to realize it is what it is.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, no, no, no, no. Wait.

[Flip]

I feel like.

[Offset]

Cause he being like, his. His question ain't so direct. That like.

[Ish]

No.

[Joe Budden]

So let me. So let me. Let me help. I recently went through some shit like this too. How do you say, not publicly and not online, in co parenting, just as co parents. How do you say, yo, you are wilding the fuck out right now, but.

[Ish]

As a co parent, there you go. That's what I'm saying.

[Joe Budden]

On some. We're just parenting, you know, you don't.

[Offset]

It's public. You don't. It's a different ball game. This ain't. I'm not a regular citizen walking around this. It's a different ball game. You don't.

[Joe Budden]

No, not publicly.

[Offset]

I'm not doing none of that. I'm not saying none of that.

[Joe Budden]

Privately, no.

[Offset]

Privately, no. Cuz at the end of the day, you got to respect gang. At the end of the day, whatever's.

[Joe Budden]

Happening, way more PE than me.

[Ish]

They way more PE, nigga, you Super.

[Offset]

P. No, it's not. It's not that. It's that, bro. At the end of the day, bro, that's not what like, defines life, bro. Like, I ain't going to be hitting, cuz I hear what you saying. I'm not going to be doing. I'm not doing that behind the scene, bro. My kids took care of Cuff. That's cool. Long as this is good, these folks ain't in no harm. You f. Got good education. You fol eat every night. Everything's good with that. Everything good with that. And it's good, bro.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, I'm just accept this. Wait, hold up. No, no, no. Hold up, hold up, hold up.

[Ish]

No.

[Joe Budden]

I be as pee as him, but then my kid is a rat.

[Melissa Ford]

Well, let me ask you this.

[Joe Budden]

Like, my kid come in the house and snitch on what the fuck is going on?

[Melissa Ford]

So let me ask you this. A lot of times, whenever two people and their, you know, their messy business is unfolding in front of the public eye and shit like that, a lot of the commentary you see is like, you know what? Their kids are young now, but eventually they're gonna see all this stuff. Like, is that a concern that you have? That all of the mess that has transpired in front of the public eye is somehow later on gonna have an effect on the kids?

[Offset]

Yeah. Hell yeah. As a parent. Yeah. A lot of shit gonna affect him, though. Music. The shit I said in music. But for sure that's why you stepped the fuck back. You stop this shit.

[Joe Budden]

Would you remarry?

[Offset]

No, sir.

[Flip]

You would never get married again?

[Offset]

Never. I'm married to music.

[Joe Budden]

I think that's deep that be married.

[Flip]

A lot of them say when they.

[Parks]

Get out, I'm married. I don't think I would do it again if something.

[Melissa Ford]

I think a lot of people feel that way. Like, a lot of. I've heard a lot of women say the same thing, like, I will never get married again.

[Joe Budden]

I'm talking about what the men feel right now.

[Melissa Ford]

Well, there's a woman in the room, so acknowledge that.

[Offset]

I know I'm with you. You got a nice lady. Don't do that with me right here. Do that with me right here, Joe. Say what you got to say, baby.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, man. For real.

[Offset]

I do be wanting. I be wanting. Cause you could see. Cause you be on my ass on the show. Cause I really want to talk to you.

[Joe Budden]

For real.

[Ish]

Yeah, she be on my ass.

[Parks]

He heard that shit.

[Ish]

You said the side of the natural on his face.

[Joe Budden]

Cheesing with teeth out, smiling.

[Ish]

Yeah, Pony.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Parks]

That's a good defense. That's a good defense.

[Melissa Ford]

Bring it on.

[Offset]

No, it ain't no thing. We competing. Don't do that.

[Melissa Ford]

No, no, no.

[Offset]

It's no competition like that. It's just.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay.

[Offset]

It'S on you.

[Joe Budden]

What? I don't think. She don't remember nothing.

[Ish]

He talk about the situation.

[Parks]

We talk a lot.

[Melissa Ford]

We do talk a lot. So if there was anything in particular.

[Ish]

I've never seen you have the situation with the breakup.

[Flip]

About a man.

[Joe Budden]

Man.

[Ish]

You heard, man.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not a man. No, for real.

[Melissa Ford]

So you. You Said what? I. I've never.

[Ish]

When the situation happened, when it flip. He not gonna say it. He just said it.

[Melissa Ford]

I couldn't hear. Cause all y' all were talking.

[Ish]

You want me cool gas.

[Joe Budden]

Back.

[Ish]

Back up, Mike.

[Melissa Ford]

Go ahead, tell me.

[Offset]

I'm just saying, like, you feel like.

[Melissa Ford]

I've never had your back.

[Offset]

How you feel?

[Joe Budden]

Hmm?

[Offset]

How you feel?

[Melissa Ford]

I mean, you know, when. When the situation is unfolding and we are all processing it in real time, you know, that's why I asked you the media question. Do you feel like you are depicted. You know, how do you feel about your depiction in the media?

[Ish]

I am trying to have. Don't let me out.

[Joe Budden]

Don't.

[Offset]

Don't let me out.

[Joe Budden]

I'm trying to have a conversation.

[Ish]

Something happened between him. You was on the. The woman's side. Why you. Why you give him the benefit?

[Joe Budden]

I want to give her an example. I just ain't going to do it in front of him.

[Ish]

He was outside up. One of the things that you defended in here that we had a fight about, that was.

[Joe Budden]

Was nuts if you a listening. But I ain't saying.

[Ish]

I remember that.

[Joe Budden]

I. Yeah, you bugged out that day.

[Flip]

Like three or four.

[Joe Budden]

One she went quick. One she bugged up.

[Ish]

She went to Mars on that shit.

[Joe Budden]

Saying, is this our. But you. Yeah. What you got to say now?

[Ish]

In your face right here.

[Joe Budden]

Smelling good looking. Keep that same energy. Hating songs.

[Ish]

Look at you doing what all them do.

[Joe Budden]

Smiling.

[Erickson]

Switching out.

[Ish]

Oh, you so funny. You the king, the out. That's how you get him. That's how you shake his head. Don't do that. That's how you get him. That trick, that trick. That's how it work.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, oh, yo.

[Melissa Ford]

I am the sole female up here. So often times I.

[Offset]

And I won't and I won't and I won't like. I. I love females. Yeah. I want, you know, I mean, I want to. I want to smooth things out with us.

[Joe Budden]

You don't love him a little less after all this.

[Melissa Ford]

That's why he said he never wants to be married again. So he can't get hemmed up again.

[Flip]

Listen to the album.

[Joe Budden]

I'm going in the album.

[Ish]

Go.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, I do want to know your thoughts on if you're allowed to share the whole Shannon Sharp debacle and just the trend.

[Offset]

Shannon Sharp.

[Joe Budden]

What.

[Offset]

What happened with Shannon Sharp just got.

[Joe Budden]

Never mind.

[Parks]

Don't worry about it.

[Joe Budden]

Never mind. Okay.

[Flip]

Oh, I don't want to speak on another.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, no, you're right. He's. I keep forgetting you Pee.

[Offset]

No, it's not that. It's just that right there. I don't want to be in none of them mix.

[Joe Budden]

Especially now with good music out. You're absolutely right. Let's get back to this album. I can't wait to hear.

[Ish]

Me neither.

[Joe Budden]

This project.

[Flip]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

Is there a tour lined up? Like, what's, what's, what's some of the post promo looking like?

[Offset]

Post promo. I'm trying to. I'm going. I'm going to it for sure. You saying post promo just after the.

[Joe Budden]

Album comes out, like you hitting the road, the next record just like, what are you doing to keep the life of the project going after it drops?

[Offset]

Oh, I'm doing a visual project. So all my. All my songs on my album, it's gonna have a video to it. Even if I gotta put the bread up each song though.

[Joe Budden]

You hear that Coach Green, he put his own bread up, nigga.

[Offset]

I'm gonna see that big. That big. And then like, it's. I feel like people been attracted to more of the lifestyle videos versus definitely the big concept videos. Cause when I look at the viewership, if I drop some shit on the street right now, riding the bottom, that gonna have way more views than I don't spend 3, 400,000 some, you know, but with me, sometimes the budget just. You, you gonna go over budget. Cause the art, me, everything with my projects, I always drop. I want niggas respect the art that I put in for it.

[Joe Budden]

Who did creative? Who did your chain?

[Offset]

Eliante.

[Joe Budden]

Eliante, right.

[Offset]

Costa be the boss too. Go in there.

[Joe Budden]

I went to go see him, and then my taxes hit and I couldn't do nothing.

[Offset]

He want arm, leg, and two toes.

[Joe Budden]

You ain't got to tell me. I'm going though. At some point. I'm saving.

[Offset]

I like that Patek you got.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. This man also. You're doing. You've done good for yourself, my brother. I'm extremely proud of you. I'm happy for you. I don't think you could paint the picture of Atlanta, hip hop and hip hop period without your participation. I don't know if you get the flowers that you supposed to get get. But just know up here we. We understand, we appreciate it. And thank you.

[Offset]

Thank you. I appreciate that, bro.

[Joe Budden]

Does anybody have any final questions for Offset? Cuz, his little publicist friend. Hey, Chris Green. You ain't speak to her. Let her know that me and you go back to like the year 2000. She talking to me like some new, like, some just on a press run. Like, you Ain't speak to. Now, that's family, man. That's family right there. She don't play. Anybody have any final questions for Offset?

[Offset]

Yeah, y' all say something N. This was dope.

[Flip]

I ain't know what to expect.

[Joe Budden]

But no, yo, y' all talk to.

[Ish]

Him before you go.

[Joe Budden]

Step to these business. Before you go. Cause y' all be having to say the gay you.

[Offset]

I mean, yeah, I was happy to come up here.

[Joe Budden]

That's true. That's true.

[Offset]

I'm coming for my folks. You know what I mean?

[Joe Budden]

I'm glad. I'm glad you came.

[Offset]

Ain't no sucker, bro. That's the thing. Be trying to pay me how to be a sucker. I'm not a sucker.

[Ish]

Said nobody nowhere.

[Flip]

You know what happens, yo, Videos of.

[Joe Budden]

You jumping off of bars.

[Flip]

I'm not talking about that. That don't make you solid. I'm talking about the. He's saying as a man taking accountability and all that other. At 33, that.

[Joe Budden]

That shit. We heard about the.

[Ish]

The fights in Atlanta, you know, it's hard for me. I'm. It's hard to. When you have a relationship with somebody, the other party, when you cool with the other party, and then you see a nigga who's honorable, it's really hard to say anything. Cause I could just be biased and say, yo, that's homegirl. What's up with this? What's up with that? But you carrying it. How you carrying it? I tried to be slick and ask questions, but you just carrying it honorably. So there's nothing for me to say without making me look like a sucker. So you just handle it well. Like, usually a nigga, you ain't say nothing. That one, Slick. You ain't throwing no subs. You talked about the children. So even if I'm cool with cardi and shit, like, that's family. And I ask a question, everybody flip. You being messy. You didn't leave any room for me to be messy. You just answered honorably. Yo, it's about the children, yo. This is what it's about, yo. Go listen to the album. That's why I said you media trained.

[Flip]

I was selfish.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

I was self. I understand now if you would've gave me a little. Now, when you ask me the question about being naked, I say, oh, you open the door. Yeah. You open the door to be messy. But then you just carrying it. How you carry. It's. You know, so we got.

[Offset]

Ain't on that messy, bro. Yeah, that ain't for me.

[Joe Budden]

No. He always been Cool, man. We went through our. He was. He was cool. Yeah.

[Ish]

Running outside of stuff.

[Offset]

We had our conversation, my brother. We had private conversation.

[Joe Budden]

That's what I'm saying.

[Offset]

Hey, hey, what's happening?

[Joe Budden]

Hey, hey, hey, what's happening?

[Offset]

That's it, though.

[Joe Budden]

But even that, right? I got. I'm gonna say three things. Things in closing before we go. Yeah, even that. Because I know how you was carrying it on the strength of your family and your wife when anybody said something to see how it flipped and turned. That leave that sour taste, and it just leave a feeling in niggas. So for you to be on it like you on it right now, again, you way more. More P than me. Hats off to you, my 1, 2. I would like to know what the standing is with P or anything. Quality control.

[Offset]

Oh, P and Coach, my brothers.

[Joe Budden]

Shout out to P. Shout out to Coach.

[Offset]

P and Coach, my brothers.

[Joe Budden]

That's fire. I like that.

[Offset]

I sent him to get my album. To this day, hey, here it is. If I put it out, what's happening? The end of the day, it was never no problem with us. We just wanted to fix a little business, you know what I mean? And them niggas support. Nigga, them niggas hit me. Hey, by your album, it's hard as shit at 90%. I done heard. So, like, you gotta. Cause I feel like you always gotta stay rooted, Ja'.

[Joe Budden]

Lite.

[Offset]

You always gotta stay rooted. You never bigger than the program. Never. I don't give a damn what it is. Sometimes everybody don't go to the next chapter with you, but you still stay tuned to them chapter. Cause that's what made you. You know what I mean? So shout out to Coach P, man. They know what's him.

[Joe Budden]

If an Atlanta nigga has $1,000 and a New York nigga has $1,000, who wins?

[Offset]

Wins the fit off on the fit off.

[Joe Budden]

If they both go shopping and come back with a fit, who wins? I'm getting. I'm getting. And I'm asking this from Yachty. Yachty recorded some music up here. Shout out to Yachty, my bro. And he was awesome. Yo, Atlanta are fashion, y'. All. And we was like, yo, how you saying that? While you out of here, like. And him and Jim, what's the question? If you go. If you go, not you.

[Offset]

But if I'm from Atlanta.

[Joe Budden]

So if I go with a New.

[Offset]

York, I'm a smoke you, not you.

[Joe Budden]

Because you got. But the typical Atlanta get $1,000 and a New York get $1,000. They both got to Go get a fit. Who comes back to freshest?

[Offset]

Who come back to freshest? I'm going to say, damn, bro. You trying to make me go against my city.

[Joe Budden]

Said it off.

[Ish]

You said Atlanta now.

[Joe Budden]

Nah, he said so.

[Offset]

I know what be going on.

[Joe Budden]

He know what time it is, though.

[Offset]

I know what be going on. I know y' all is. This is a fashion city, bro. You gotta respect game. You'll be a goddamn. I ain't no captain ass nigga. I can't cap on New York, okay. Cause when I was first comp down seeing shit that I ain't know about, it was here. You see what I'm saying? Cause we don't have. It's just. We just don't got the same. Like, this is a fashion city, bro.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. It's flagship stores.

[Offset]

Atlanta is a hustler city. I mean, that's why we got more black folks with more money than this city. Probably.

[Flip]

They do. Yeah. No, you do for our.

[Offset]

For our. No, they do for our hustler. So we gonna always get make money. But when it come to fashion, I gotta respect New York. I do this shit for real. I can't shit on New York, man. I can't shit on New York. Atlanta, too. We, musically, music and fashion go together, so we shape y'.

[Joe Budden]

All.

[Offset]

Cause musically, y' all don't got it. We got it. I'm keep real. I fuck with New York artists, and. I mean, it's just. I feel like y' all lacking originality in New York.

[Joe Budden]

That's fair, yo. When me and Me was talking about their Metro album and our review of it. But in that conversation, he was like, where's the New York version of that? And he kind of shut me up because what was your.

[Offset]

What was your opinion on the tr?

[Joe Budden]

I didn't hear the whole thing yet. And when I heard it, I didn't realize it was a concept album. I got to like, track six and was like, all right, I need to hear this some other time.

[Offset]

It's some shit for Atlanta.

[Joe Budden]

Well, that's what I learned.

[Offset]

When you get big enough, don't see the play. Like, when you get big enough, you control the world. You got to go home. Who made you?

[Joe Budden]

I agree with that.

[Offset]

So. Because if you don't got home, I always said, if you don't got home, you don't got nothing. I don't get down. These folk give you. If you can go get 500,000 in Milwaukee and you can't get 500,000 at home, you losing. Cause these folks made you These folk gonna break you, too.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Offset]

Make you break your ass. I feel like that was a take. And he's so big that he got a. Got down that is put on a. But that shit for Atlanta and that shit hard. And niggas gonna catch on later. Remember I said it. Cause that's what always happened with Atlanta. Y' all nigga be catching on late. Cause we having sauce, and niggas don't understand the sauce. And then once the sauce get the goddamn going through the females. Cause what happens is, it go. We drop some shit, then the females like it, and then the catch on. Watch it do that. It do that speak. But I fought with him doing that, though. Cuz I'm from Atlanta. Goddamn. Like, some of them artists on that that created us, the ones that's on goddamn never had a real opportunity to shine. So I.

[Joe Budden]

With High Street.

[Flip]

That's dope.

[Offset]

Y' all don't know. Some of them. We would listen. I listen to in high school, eighth grade, sixth, seventh grade. This all. I listen to him. I listen to no, who signed to no label. I'm listening to these. That's on the album. So I fuck with how he did the concert. I fuck with what he. It's really a deeper. It's a deeper move than what people seeing and what he doing. He really bringing niggas that didn't get to fully make it to that BET stage, that VMA stage, and giving them an opportunity to have a sound. So I fuck with that.

[Joe Budden]

Like, there's a few of them niggas that wasn't on there. They trying to riff about it, but we're talking big sticking.

[Flip]

Messy as hell.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Yo, yo. No, no. My final two question. My final question. My final question. Yo, she gonna come over here, box you in the head with the coffee. I go back 20 years with Chris Reed. She got the. Hold up for a second. My last two questions. The. In no order, the five cities with the baddest are where?

[Offset]

The five city with the baddest.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Look at my man. Yeah, you up for that one, right?

[Joe Budden]

Look. Look at you. It's my man, right? See how you doing. Me? I got it.

[Ish]

Are you gonna turn on me for.

[Offset]

This top season in America?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Offset]

Let me think. Now, let me think. New York, number one. Y' all got too many people. It's too many. It's too many. It's too many people. We go to New York first.

[Joe Budden]

We'll fold that up right now.

[Offset]

Had some from New York, too. I had some from New York. So you Said five Crazy. You said five.

[Joe Budden]

New York.

[Offset]

Atlanta. I gotta say home.

[Parks]

Sure.

[Offset]

I mean now. I want to say two seasons. Boston.

[Joe Budden]

Okay. Sleeper. Boston is asleep as I know you got. Yeah, never mind the. That say B. They know what time it is. Hello. KK Low cape cake.

[Offset]

Okay, so that's three cities.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Offset]

Hold on now. Houston. Lord have mercy.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. There we go.

[Flip]

I was waiting for that one.

[Joe Budden]

Yep. Gotta be there. Gotta be there. I love you, baby.

[Offset]

I ain't gonna say Miami because Miami. Just a whole bunch of mixed like. Like that don't be. It's not from there.

[Joe Budden]

The workout bbl. Hold on.

[Offset]

It's another spot. Hold on, hold on.

[Flip]

It's another spotless.

[Joe Budden]

As soon as he said y' all could go. I promise I'm done. I promise I'm done. What?

[Offset]

I'm on three, four.

[Joe Budden]

Houston was four.

[Offset]

Houston was four. Hold on now. New York on there twice.

[Ish]

Damn.

[Joe Budden]

Wow. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for Offset. Joe.

[Offset]

Yo, we got it in the strip club.

[Joe Budden]

But if. If you. I gotta come out there with my five bands. Come on.

[I]

Five, five.

[Joe Budden]

No, for real.

[Offset]

Work 10. You make 10. Like 20.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. If I do it slow. All right. Bet. Chris. I'mma hit you. Ladies and gentlemen, Offset album in stores this week. This week. This week.

[Offset]

Inspired arc 22nd Man Kiara album. Man, y' all go check that out, man. I mean, I put blood, sweat it, tears and this. Let's get it.

[Joe Budden]

We lit the 22nd. Check that album out. Until next time, we are gone. One, not anybody that works here. You stay here.

[Offset]

They sign the jet. And two, me in the middle.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, hey, hey. I know you be having a strip club in mind when you make this.

[Parks]

You got to.

[Offset]

I was from clubbing.

[Joe Budden]

You got.

[Offset]

I got out of it for a second fire.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. I'm not going to lie to y'. All off. That might. Might have been one of my favorite people.

[Parks]

That was great.

[Joe Budden]

I knew that already. Cuz I. I know know him a little bit. And I know that he a fly. Yeah, he's dope.

[Flip]

But he's dope grown. Yeah, he likes that Smart set.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Informed, educated, funny. Don't sleep.

[Flip]

Honest.

[Joe Budden]

Funny. Honest. Keeps it pee just real.

[Flip]

You can tell he chased that bag about his money.

[Joe Budden]

Vision, the plan about his money. I'm not on my wife. I don't care what y' all are talking about up here. I see what's going on. I still don't care. Like, that's just. I don't think it's too many people that have been through or gone through as much as he has, especially in their music career.

[Flip]

Publicly.

[Joe Budden]

Ain't 33 like and on the strip for him. Cause he keep it so P. I ain't bring up no rumors. We ain't even bring up rumors and beef with it and this. And we ain't do none of that. Just a real respectable nigga, man. Hopefully me and him have a timeout and die diamonds tonight. Ed. Make it right. Make it right. Mel.

[Melissa Ford]

Yes. What?

[Ish]

Let the bodies hit the floor.

[Joe Budden]

That's what she do.

[Ish]

Everybody hit the floor.

[Joe Budden]

That's what she do. She let them hit the floor.

[Melissa Ford]

They don't do any such things.

[Joe Budden]

Mel, when our guests come, I need you to not. When they leaving, I need you to not happen to have to walk down the same hall hallway.

[Melissa Ford]

By the way, let it be known that the bathrooms are down that hallway. And we were sitting here. Not all of them parks was in.

[Joe Budden]

Your bathroom so you could hold that little.

[Melissa Ford]

I went looking for the other bathrooms to see if they were free. And every single one was taken. So then I walked back in here and.

[Joe Budden]

Please, you have to catch a uti, man.

[Melissa Ford]

I really don't want to.

[Joe Budden]

They kind of suck. Take the pill. It'll leave in a couple days.

[Flip]

Cream, cranberry juice.

[Joe Budden]

You have to stop that. You. Because you. That's what you had a little move. When you try to steal our guests to go to hot and bother, you will be fired.

[Ish]

Yeah. Don't touch.

[Joe Budden]

Don't touch. Offset arm.

[Ish]

Hey, I told you, Cardi just hit.

[Joe Budden]

A with a JBL speaker.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay, that's fine.

[Joe Budden]

And that bottle ended your stop.

[Ish]

Yo. Oh, yo, keep it up, Joe.

[Joe Budden]

But she gotta chill.

[Melissa Ford]

I didn't do it.

[Joe Budden]

Because girls be on women empowerment until the come and is charming and funny and smell good and got money and got hits, you know, more hallways.

[Melissa Ford]

I literally.

[Joe Budden]

Because you do that. You do. You know what? She break her hip doing all this.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

And I said I don't want to p. Without Mel. Yo. I can't lie. I miss me.

[Ish]

I know why you got it. Mel got it. Talk to him. I know why you can't talk to him.

[Joe Budden]

Flip.

[Ish]

There's something about Mel, man. Mel's cachet. There's something about Mel that when people come in, they love Mel. She's able to keep them a lot of. She said a lot of lies. She made a lot on Eddie Griffin. All them. Remember that time she was just lying and standing this listen. And then I'm like, Joe, why you. Why you. I know why you got me here. Why you Got Mel here. Now I see male. Stop playing with big.

[Joe Budden]

I take that.

[Flip]

That whole question, I got asked differently before. Remember?

[Joe Budden]

I was like.

[Flip]

I thought we was getting line like, yo, everybody gonna be there? No want to know if Mel was gonna be there.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, they love you, Mel. That's what that was. I never thought he was lying to us. Cause I know him, he a cool name.

[Flip]

I'm joking about the line.

[Joe Budden]

But Mel. All right, let me tell you like this. Mel has done a lot to disrupt our group.

[Melissa Ford]

Really? Have I done a lot?

[Joe Budden]

She should have been fired 90 times.

[Ish]

More than me.

[Joe Budden]

Let's talk as Mel should have been fired 90 times. If you're wondering why I won't.

[Ish]

Hey, I know why.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, no. We got it.

[Ish]

This doing a new you the new you the new. I know what's going on.

[Flip]

You the new.

[Ish]

What's the.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know what's going.

[Ish]

Bishop Joe, Magic Wand.

[Joe Budden]

Nah, nah. The new should have been out of here.

[Flip]

The new shit's gonna put a camera in the hallway.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Re you say that? Let me tell you. That's the pie right there. Let me tell y'. All.

[Offset]

That's funny.

[Joe Budden]

When I close on this place, which is soon, because it technically ain't mine yet. So I'm being cool. When I close, a sign is going for when you enter that say, hey, from this point, FYI, this is what we on in here at all times. And I'm putting a nice camera set up.

[Ish]

They got that a lot of places.

[Joe Budden]

It's going to look like when I was on couples therapy and they put the camera on the headbo. You couldn't even pillow talk with your without them saying something. You had to go in the bathroom. Because it's illegal to put cameras in the bathroom. But a couple's therapy. Go ahead and get the pillow talking with your in that bed. I dare you. And then wait a couple months.

[Flip]

That's like the Love island camera.

[Ish]

As soon as you walk in a Viceland building, they got that. They had that stupid.

[Joe Budden]

And that's what is gonna happen here. Cause Mel take that little baddie walk down the hallway too much for me.

[Ish]

She moved quick too.

[Joe Budden]

And if you don't know her, it'll work.

[Ish]

What's your info?

[Joe Budden]

If you don't know Mel, Mel do all this touching you and hey, what's your number? How long do you keep.

[Ish]

What's your number? What's your info? Yo, put my number in your phone quick.

[Flip]

Ain't no girl ever be like, that's what she do.

[Ish]

I get it. Mel passed the phone over by the kitchen and pick it back up by the door. Right, right. She passed Mel.

[Joe Budden]

Don't give up.

[Ish]

Yo. She. She passed the phone by the kitchen and then act like she look it up by the door. How'd you get there?

[Joe Budden]

That damn Daisy try.

[Ish]

She tried to act and she tried to act like before he left she was looking for Daisy to have us look outside. Where did we all look? This way. She walked right on.

[Joe Budden]

That's a smooth move. Yeah, that was but 90% of the guests that come here have an adverse reaction to Mel. They love us because of who she is and what she be. They don't know who she is today. But. But the what she's contributed culture not they don't know do they don't know. Don't nobody know but October, London, everybody else. It's only him. Oh really? I love Mel. Mel, you're never getting fired.

[Melissa Ford]

Thank you. Good.

[Joe Budden]

You never. You never go to Mexico. Girl. Do what you want. Absolutely do what you want. Do your own thing. Go cuz you hot and bothered on company time. It don't matter.

[Melissa Ford]

Did no such thing.

[Joe Budden]

What. What is important to us? Your dog. I could really go home. That's how fulfilled now that's had to say like it's a slow news week. That man.

[Flip]

That was dope. I really appreciate him.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. And he answered a lot. Even if you don't know that he answered in different ways. Yeah, I understand. He answered a lot. He talk this.

[Ish]

He know I was trying to get him too.

[Joe Budden]

That regrets question.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Now we spoke to him and he spoke back.

[Offset]

Yeah, he did.

[Joe Budden]

I ain't feel like he was on the shout out to him man. Again. Albin store stores August 22nd we had up the release.

[Parks]

Yeah, we did.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

My bad.

[Joe Budden]

Because it's him. And we got so many guests coming up here today that it's just a tough time. But offset album in stores and in your phone August 22nd. You support real. When you see them.

[Parks]

It's fire.

[Joe Budden]

And. And that's that on there.

[Flip]

It is fire.

[Joe Budden]

If being fire is a plus. So awesome. What else needs our attention? Totally up to y'. All. Totally up to y'. All. We got Charlamagne versus Trump. We got Nikki versus Ass Brian.

[Ish]

No real quick. While we was potting, we had an earthquake here.

[Joe Budden]

We did.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, we did.

[Parks]

That's my first earthquake.

[Ish]

There was an earthquake going on.

[Parks]

I thought someone just dropped something.

[Melissa Ford]

You didn't feel it?

[Joe Budden]

I didn't feel this one.

[Flip]

I didn't feel it.

[Parks]

I felt it.

[Ish]

I felt it.

[Parks]

I felt it.

[Ish]

And Mel looked at me like.

[Joe Budden]

You felt that?

[Parks]

Yeah, I thought someone just dropped something upstairs.

[Melissa Ford]

Nah, that was a little. That was a little tremor.

[Parks]

It was a little tremor.

[Joe Budden]

Know why I know New York ain't cuz When I was speaking to about that first earthquake, everybody was like, yo, I just thought my neighbors was wilding again. Exactly. Yo, these niggas on top and next to me with the. That's crazy. I'm about to go over there up pole on these. Yo, relax money, right?

[Parks]

I thought they put a sub up there. Subwoofer.

[Joe Budden]

All the density in New York. Niggas don't think earthquake.

[Flip]

They don't no think.

[Joe Budden]

I'mma knock on my neighbor door and knock him out if you keep doing this shit one more time.

[Flip]

You got one more time. Yo, it's 10:30. I'm telling you right now. Put my baby to sleep.

[Joe Budden]

Word.

[Flip]

Knock it the off.

[Ish]

Let me see.

[Joe Budden]

Let me look up at that list. This man. All right, we got Billy Vers, Cam and Johnny Manzel. We got Nikki and De. A bunch of that we don't talk about. So where do we stand? How do we feel? What do y' all want? Y' all pick it. Y' all pick it. I'm Mel. You just got back. You pick it.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay, I'm just pulling at the hat, cuz. I don't know what these are about. So let's go.

[Joe Budden]

Wait. When you was in Mexico, you wasn't keeping up with the news from when you got back to your real job.

[Melissa Ford]

I know I wasn't. I'm sorry.

[Joe Budden]

I checked the fuck out and Ish came in. We was like, yo, put Nicky and DEZ up there. He was like, yo, what happened, dez? Barn, what's dez? Like? Yo, this is the best crew in the world.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay, well just add.

[Joe Budden]

And Mark got the nerve to be in Martha's venue. I'm a fuck Mark up the community all excited. Cause Mark is my Eskimo brother.

[Melissa Ford]

Did you guys discover the swallows?

[Joe Budden]

Okay, Mark, in the middle of our 520 interview, said he told me that he's my Eskimo brother. And I don't know. And he was getting his off. Cause I keep calling him a nerd doofy uncute ass nigga. So he tried shooting me, but I don't be knowing. But when you try and shoot at me and we gotta confirm that I fucked this girl. Bitches be lying on my dick. Be lying on my dick. I don't know if anybody in Here has a shared experience of somebody lying on their dick. But it ain't enough. Enough can't come to me and say, yo, we asking my bro, who did I love her? Like, where's that?

[Flip]

What am I claiming that body?

[Joe Budden]

This is lying. I got a question for y' all. Off of anything that's in pop culture or lifestyle or news related. And I know what type of immature podcast this is, so I know how y' all will take the question. Just take a minute to think.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't have another way to word it. Have any of y' all ever cut somebody off for being ugly? I repeat. Cause I know y' all are immature. Has anybody here ever cut anyone off for being too ugly?

[Flip]

Can I ask a follow up question?

[Joe Budden]

Alex Bound.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Flip]

I need more info.

[Joe Budden]

You ever been cool with somebody or close to somebody and seen them do or say something that was so ugly?

[Flip]

Okay, all right, okay.

[Joe Budden]

Like ugly in the spirit and soul.

[Ish]

I don't know about Drake.

[Joe Budden]

That didn't have no ramification for you. Nothing to do with you. You just saw that. You just saw somebody you fuck with be too ugly for you to continue fucking with them in that same. Has that ever happened to anybody here?

[Ish]

Yeah, Yeah, a lot of.

[Parks]

Of people. Yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Yes.

[Parks]

I don't even look at it cut off because I don't regard those people enough to cut them off. Like, I try not to be around people that move and talk and behave ugly.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Flip]

But it'd be the one you don't even know. And then when you see it, it's like, yeah, you didn't know you was.

[Joe Budden]

Flying up with this. You didn't know that they even stored this inside of them. And then one day they just said something about somebody that didn't have nothing to do with shit. And you was like, wait, wait. Yes. You surmised what I told.

[Flip]

I told the story up here before about this was like pre smartphone days. So, you know, back in the day, you would go to a gas station. Cause the gas station were the people that you get directions from.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Flip]

So niggas was in. They was going to do a series called River Road before a reality TV series called River Road. And niggas was looking for directions to go to the meeting. So people went to the gas station. It was at a real popular steakhouse. I think it was like Smith and Wollinsky's or something. And I like Smith and Wolinsky. And then they was like, yo, excuse me, you know how to get to. And that gas Station dude was like, I think it's down there. So. And the girl was like, am I asking you for how to get to Smith and Wollinsky's? You pump gas for a living.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, no, it was a rap, dog. It was a rat. No, it was a rap. That's exactly what I'm talking about. Why I asked this question.

[Flip]

It was a rap over never again.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah.

[Flip]

With you. Never again.

[Joe Budden]

Mel, you too.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, definitely. You know, been out. The dining experience and the treatment of serving servers, the serving staff, like, I do not play with that. I. I used to be that. And so I had. Have zero tolerance for any form of rudeness. Kurt. Nothing. I don't give a shit what the fuck you're going through. Don't take it out on them.

[Joe Budden]

Rudeness to service workers is a big one. It's a big tell.

[Parks]

Yeah. Animals.

[Melissa Ford]

Animals, too.

[Joe Budden]

How you feel about animals? How you treat animals?

[Parks]

Old people, for sure.

[Joe Budden]

Another big tell. A few weeks ago on the news, I was so disturbed, I ain't even bringing any. Or bother to discuss it. They put some nigga on the news, took a dog in the Bronx or Harlem. Dragged. You've seen it, right? Dragged it out the back of the truck for blocks and blocks and then set the dog on fire.

[Parks]

God damn.

[Flip]

They caught him.

[Joe Budden]

You goddamn right they caught him. And threw the book at his ass. Good for him.

[Parks]

Good.

[Joe Budden]

Good for him. I wish I could tell y' all the sentencing, but good for him. Good. Good for him. Cause what possessed you to do that to a dog?

[Flip]

Why would you even do.

[Melissa Ford]

I've always want. I've always.

[Flip]

That's the mention.

[Melissa Ford]

I've always wished for there to be more severe penalties for people who are arrested and convicted for animals. Animal cruelty. Because to me, it's indicative of something else for sure. Something. Something else that you're capable of doing.

[Parks]

Usually when you hear the horror stories.

[Melissa Ford]

About serial killers, they started on animals.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

It just. That's another level of cruelty when you're, you know, doing something to a helpless animal. Like a helpless being is up off.

[Joe Budden]

Of dogs on my tv. I don't have no TV to offer y', all, but that shows smoke that I told y' all to go watch last week.

[Parks]

I was just.

[Joe Budden]

Episode. Episode seven.

[Parks]

Oh, I'm not there yet.

[Flip]

I just started.

[Offset]

I literally.

[Joe Budden]

I don't have nothing to say about it.

[Parks]

I'm up to five.

[Joe Budden]

Episode seven is like that episode of Paradise. What was it, eight? You remember that one episode of paradise all of us watched and was like. That was one of the best TV episodes this year for Smoke and what they doing. I think it's episode seven or eight in the interrogation room when they get both them niggas in there.

[Flip]

All right, all right, all right, all right.

[Offset]

A lot.

[Parks]

Do it a lot.

[Joe Budden]

That's television. And I'll say that I'm up to five.

[Parks]

The John leg.

[Joe Budden]

I can't wait for Friday.

[Parks]

John leg was.

[Melissa Ford]

I'mma get on that. I started the pit.

[Flip]

Oh, the Pit is great.

[Joe Budden]

The Pit is great.

[Flip]

Pit is great.

[Joe Budden]

One Awards. The pit is for a lot of.

[Melissa Ford]

Like, Emmys and like that.

[Flip]

So I need TV shows right now.

[Parks]

The disappearing girl on the ship. I forgot what it's called. Amy.

[Offset]

I watch that.

[Ish]

I watch that.

[Joe Budden]

I watch that.

[Ish]

See in Barbados somewhere. They saying, right?

[Parks]

Yeah, I'm not sure they don't.

[Joe Budden]

No issue. Yeah. You think.

[Ish]

You think she's.

[Joe Budden]

You do.

[Ish]

You think she's dead? But after watching the parks kind of.

[Offset]

Smoke, really kind of Apple tv, you.

[Parks]

Think she fell into the water or something? That room is dumb. Small. Like, it don't really make sense that she would have moved through four people sleeping and no one would have woke up or nothing. It's odd.

[Ish]

So the people that came and said that they seen her, you think they just making it up like y' all.

[Parks]

Seen about making it up? I think that you can get something in your brain and then. Then, yeah, think that that's them later, you know what I'm saying? You could just have an incident that happened today at the gas station or whatever, and then later your brain implants this missing person or this whatever. I think your brain could trick itself for sure.

[Joe Budden]

I gotta say that looking at a sketch on a dock and looking at a sketch in real life is not the same. Yeah. Like when them niggas robbed me on 145th street and the cops put the sketchbook in front of my face with 900 pages of stuff. Schedule your dog, even though he just left. I don't know who you talking about.

[Parks]

Hey, now you're confusing more probably.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know who you talking about. I can't spot whoever y' all showing.

[Flip]

Me what's going down there. Point of mount.

[Joe Budden]

A fact.

[Ish]

A fact on top chain.

[Joe Budden]

Fact on top chain on 145th Street. When I was playing spades and the cop was directing traffic on 145th street and they pulled a gun down, just took my. And. And. And melted it right down. Melted it down.

[Ish]

I ain't saying nothing. Pops got mad at me about that.

[Joe Budden]

No, not God. He Is still.

[Ish]

Pops ever wanted to give me a burn. Gave me.

[Joe Budden]

You know what I noticed? I noticed this. And I don't see anybody else talking about it. I was waiting for somebody else to talk about it so I could put it on them. Cause I didn't want all the think pieces on me being the one to point this out. Out. That little volume V is gone from Shannon Sharp videos. Shannon Sharp was signed to the volume.

[Flip]

I know. But I'm just.

[Joe Budden]

Which is a Colin Coward thing. They have. Angie. They have 520. They have. You see the play that Colin is running. That V is no longer there on Shannon Sharp Sharp Nightcap videos.

[Parks]

That could just be a lay low omission. Or it could be not.

[Ish]

You look for everything, Joe.

[Joe Budden]

God damn. Huh?

[Flip]

No.

[Joe Budden]

It could be.

[Ish]

You look for everything holy.

[Melissa Ford]

I mean that logo was not. It was.

[Joe Budden]

I've been in similar circumstances where the company that you with has to now make a decision.

[Melissa Ford]

And like.

[Joe Budden]

And we could be sued and we might be liable and you not. Your name ain't so favorable.

[Ish]

How does a company gets sued for something like that? If it's. If it's in the contract.

[Joe Budden]

If you do something and you sign to me, then somebody could sue me. Yeah, but if you.

[Ish]

But you put in the contract that you're not liable for my action.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, but they can still sue you. Up to this jury to decide.

[Offset]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Okay. So it's up to su.

[Joe Budden]

You.

[Ish]

Okay.

[Flip]

They can sue everybody.

[Joe Budden]

I can sue you no matter what a contract say. And a judge or a jury will have to decide on this if it's got it.

[Parks]

That's why you always see when these big laws, lawsuits against celebrities, Puff being one of them. Everybody in this.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know how I feel about that V being going from Shannon.

[Ish]

I don't know how I feel neither.

[Joe Budden]

What you mean like I've been processing for a few days. I still. I'm still not sure how I feel about it.

[Ish]

How do you feel overall about the Shannon? I mean, I know we talked about it a lot.

[Joe Budden]

Right.

[Flip]

I'm saying I don't get weird.

[Joe Budden]

Like I understand it because you would be held liable for some things and it would be some money. I. I understand it. I guess I'm always. It's always interesting to me to see the decision that companies make when they are riding the black. New York Times says that their deal ends at the end of August. All right. Erickson says that the New York Times says that Shannon's deal ends at August. I'm sure that's True. Which is why we heard some of those rumors and shit coming out. It's not the end of August and that B is gone. Right. It's not like they. It looked like. What we assuming here speculative is it don't look like they tried to keep him. Were working in good faith to keep him. And it's just always interesting to me to see how the companies handle it that are riding the hot black hands.

[Flip]

Two things, though. Four or five months ago, they might have been in. This is all speculative. They might have been in contract negotiations. You might have been giving us your ass to kiss. Now all of a sudden jumped off.

[Joe Budden]

We good. There's a lot of.

[Ish]

You get what I'm saying?

[Flip]

It's a possibility.

[Joe Budden]

I'm taking your premise because we part. So it's fun to theorize shit. But taking your premise. There's a lot of gray area between you giving us your asticus and we good. Right? Like if you do some dumb and I know you valuable and I'm able to get you at a cheap or at a discount now, then we having new conversations. But to go from you, the hottest nigga on earth to ESPN leaving you to. Now we are leaving you as the volume. I don't know if I like it.

[Ish]

Me neither.

[Flip]

I don't know if I like your name. Could be that I gotta stay away from that right now.

[Joe Budden]

I've been exonerated. Not in public opinion.

[Flip]

That's what we talking about, though.

[Joe Budden]

I don't like that from companies.

[Flip]

You technically haven't even been exonerated. If Busby don't write that letter stating all of that stuff, I think this is gonna sound bad, but I'm not saying this. I think honestly, they did him a service by saying, like, yo, it was consensual and all that stuff. I think that's part of the agreement. That was part of the agreement.

[Joe Budden]

You don't even get this money without saying yes.

[Flip]

That wasn't clear. That was part of that. So I think that when you make a settlement to the public opinion, you guilty, unfortunately. And that's why some people be like, fuck that, I'm not settling. Cause it's almost an admission.

[Joe Budden]

But that's where my problem lie. Not with the opinion. Not with the opinion of the public. But, nigga, I settled. She said what she had to say. And my company still stepped away.

[Flip]

At every company, it's somebody to sit there and weigh that shit out. And they looking at it as, yeah, what's the risk of him keeping him of the company keeping him Signed here. Long term or what's the reward if we don't? Right.

[Parks]

And they got a lot of shows over there. Back to your initial statement. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

And none of them Shannon Sharp. Cool.

[Flip]

I might not need my shark.

[Melissa Ford]

I mean, post this.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah. They don't seem to care.

[Melissa Ford]

To me, it just seems like they're just gonna put him on ice.

[Joe Budden]

It may be a blessing in disguise too. Don't. Don't make it. I'm not trying to sound like this is all horror and gloom and doom for Shannon Sharp. It could be a blessing in disguise. I just don't really love that. From the volume, seeing that they are hand picking the culturally important shows. So if you're doing that for your bottom line.

[Flip]

Stand by him for me.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not saying I feel you.

[Flip]

No, no.

[Joe Budden]

If you do that, if I hire Ish, I gotta know that a tenant roof might be leaking one day and he won't come in. That's on me to know. That's on me to deal with. I don't like the benefits. And then you getting totally ghost. When hardship come, even though this is an understandable hardship. So I'm a little at a crossroads. I'm a little like they'll be sitting.

[Flip]

There saying, yo, ain't nothing personal. That's business. When that. Yo, yo.

[Joe Budden]

These certain no company do that to the most important person on their platform. I guess that's what's bothering me. Okay. If it wasn't Shannon Sharp, I could get it. But when you do that to the biggest, most successful, most important on your platform, I think it says a lot about you. It just shows everybody it ain't. You ain't just washing your hands of him. You telling your black demographics how you handle it when some come up. And maybe because of my personal experience, I'm not comfortable with it.

[Flip]

How about, say. Because I don't even look at it. I think. Yeah. I didn't see that as a color thing. I see that as I'm letting my color.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Flip]

You said you're telling that you're black. You're telling your demographic.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, no, no, no, no. All right. But let me correct it. They're riding the hot black hands. I'm not talking about the decision being racist.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

I'm just talking about their business model and the demo that they're after. So when you make a decision, this is the demo that's looking. I'm not trying to say it's racist. I'm not trying to say. Okay, okay. I'm not trying to say That I.

[Flip]

Think it could set the standard, though. Like, yo, dog, if we. If we're willing to.

[Ish]

Everybody's expecting.

[Flip]

If Pat Mahomes don't come to. If Pat Mahomes in practice for three weeks, and now I punish Pat Mahomes, it's letting everybody else on this roster know if he could get punished, the rest of you motherfuckers could get fired. You get what I'm saying? Like, you.

[Joe Budden]

It's a top. You cut Pat Mahomes, though.

[Flip]

You're not gonna cut Pat Mahomes if you. I'm just giving you an example.

[Joe Budden]

I'm just Janet Sharp in my example. It's Pat Mahomes.

[Flip]

I'm just giving you an example that if somebody can get punished, everybody else under us can get punished. And I think sometimes people might not run their company like that. Like, you'll look at the. The stars get star treatment. And so a lot of times it's a disgruntled thing. It's like, yo, dawg, if he could go. The rest of you motherfuckers, like. Like the saying, ain't nobody bigger than the program.

[Joe Budden]

Ain't nobody bigger than the program.

[Flip]

And that's kind of. And that's kind of what I've been hearing that.

[Joe Budden]

I've been hearing that a lot lately. I forgot who else said Offset. Just said it. That's it. He did say it, too. And somebody else. Oh, oh, my girl's daughter kept saying that. Why does that phrase keep popping up?

[Melissa Ford]

I know somebody Google it.

[Flip]

Ain't nobody bigger than the program.

[Joe Budden]

True, though.

[Flip]

I mean, it's true.

[Ish]

No matter how. In most instances, no matter how hot you think you are, no matter how much you.

[Joe Budden]

All instances.

[Flip]

Not this one.

[Joe Budden]

Name one. You. No, I'm not being in the program.

[Flip]

You are the program.

[Joe Budden]

No, I'm not. I'm not. I don't look at it like that at all. I'm not the program.

[Flip]

You don't gotta look at it like nothing.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not the program.

[Flip]

What you talking about, nigga?

[Joe Budden]

I'm not the program. All right, cool. Program is way bigger than Joe Butt.

[Flip]

I think the program. Bigger than.

[Joe Budden]

Is this shit bigger than Nino Brown?

[Flip]

Oh, you talking about something? I'm talking about.

[Melissa Ford]

Do you think that his numbers dropped?

[Joe Budden]

No.

[Melissa Ford]

In any way, shape or form from this scandal?

[Joe Budden]

Oh, Shannon. Yes, they did.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay. Well, I mean, that could be something that they're taking into effect right now. They're just. I feel like.

[Joe Budden]

But wait, hold on up. It's not just his numbers dropped because most would Say a hit record is a hit record, and when you get one, you'll have one. But with this type of story, the people that can help with a hit record are going to distance themselves.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, but I think that.

[Joe Budden]

So now you just left to talking to the.

[Melissa Ford]

The ether. I get it. I just think that they're. I think that they're taking a standpoint of. So we're going to back up a little bit until the stink wears off of you a little bit more. Which it will. People have short term memories. Scandals pop up every five fucking minutes. People are going to get bored of talking about this story and then possibly return to the fold. And then they're like, we can continue conversations then, but right now you're fucking napalm.

[Joe Budden]

I agree with you, but all of that is a trick. And I'm speaking from some type of experience. All of that is a trick. It's the shock jock trick. You said something or did something. We have a behavioral clause in a contract that says we are allowed to distance ourselves from you. But you still down with us. We just getting away from you for a little bit. And if you are dope enough and hot enough to survive, we'll circle back.

[Flip]

If it behooves us to come back.

[Joe Budden]

And fuck with you. But we're wiping our hands. We're done. This is a soft fire.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. And if you survive it, we'll be back. It's a trick. I hope Shannon does well. He's learned from his mistakes.

[Flip]

You said that was Nightcap, right?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, that's the.

[Flip]

With him. And.

[Joe Budden]

That V was there and now it's gone. And they were both sued now. Yes, currently.

[Flip]

Oh, yeah. I see the company saying, oh, no, that's. This is different from that.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, that is true. I don't like that.

[Melissa Ford]

And also it's like addition to that.

[Flip]

But now this show technically is being sued.

[Melissa Ford]

Yes.

[Flip]

Like, this ain't Shannon too now it's y'.

[Joe Budden]

All.

[Flip]

The show that's on this network are the ones sued. I forgot. Oh, no. I could see the company saying, nah, I'm cool. That ain't. And again. And it's back to back. Yeah, the new suit. I forgot that part.

[Joe Budden]

I don't care about that part. As a company.

[Melissa Ford]

That's the part they care about.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Flip]

As a company. Company.

[Joe Budden]

Give a. What y' all talking about. Okay, so I don't give a. What y' all talking about. Hold the up, cuz.

[Ish]

You've been. I've been trying to say something. When the night. All right.

[Joe Budden]

Has Come. The night has come. That's when shorty came, jerked you off and the land. And she white. She like 22. What you about to say, Flip? Exactly.

[Ish]

If you are a company. If you are a company. Are you saying that. Would you take a different approach in a situation as a company? Like, say, I had to show one. Just use improper and I just do something outlandish.

[Joe Budden]

Get out of here. So. And that's a joke. I'm talking. You have. If we. If we. If we could talk for a second. You. You've. You've had stories hit out there that if I were that type of company, you should have been fired.

[Ish]

Yes, that is true.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't. I understand it. I've been through it. I'm a creator. I understand it. Hold on. I'm gauging how this goes.

[Flip]

And that's the one. Not. Wait. Not just that, though. He's had stories, not lawsuits, right?

[Ish]

Yeah, but the stories could lead to.

[Flip]

But my point is what he said.

[Joe Budden]

With respect, I don't want to get stories. Take it off the hill. Stories lead to lawsuit. Cool.

[Flip]

In their case, it led to things.

[Parks]

True.

[Flip]

We got to that point already. That's all I'm saying. We're now our attorneys. We're paying attorney hours to represent ourselves because we've been listed in the suit. Not just that. Your perspective and some white executive's perspective are totally different.

[Joe Budden]

Different.

[Flip]

You have been on the flip side so you can directly relate to where Flip is headed. The white executive that might have grew up in wherever that. It's a disconnect there. You are gonna understand, Flip. One, we come from the same culture. One, you've been in media here in media. You walked the life.

[Joe Budden]

That Flip. I don't think the nigga should be able to profit off of the hot black hand if you don't. If that's not the case, what you're saying, it's the same thinking that niggas have with police in the community, right? If you're not from this community and you didn't grow up in this community, you're not going to handle it with the same care as you police it.

[Flip]

Because one is, you are serving the people. In a police instance, you're serving the people. You are a man of the people. In a business instance, you don't give a fuck about the people. You care about the body, profit, the bottom line and the profitability of the company. The company is to who your loyalty lies. When you are elected official, you're a cop. You any of them. The People is your primary.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not one of those advanced analytics. I'm going off what the numbers and the metrics say only I'm a human with a heart and a soul. So I want to use my human brain to insert here. This is not just self checkout. I agree yourself.

[Flip]

What if the numbers and the analytics is what got them here in the first place?

[Joe Budden]

What I say because I'm just what I went off of my response. What I say because I'm inserting my human abilities in this is I know better than a machine or AI that if someone is able to overcome adversity they'll be bigger than what they were. True. I believe in that because I'm a walking environment. Right.

[Flip]

You've done it right.

[Joe Budden]

I can't say that a machine or a robot or somebody that's only looking at metrics that the. I don't know where Shannon Sharp stands three, four years from now. If he puts his head down and does the work and just continues to live up to the talent that he has, I think he'll be bigger than ever. I think the universe will take care of that. But if you the company and you not there for that because you just shunning. It's tough. It's tough. I get both sides. I get both sides.

[Flip]

1. I'm not standing on one.

[Joe Budden]

It just bothers me a little bit when it happens to black people that were successful.

[Ish]

I feel like that in closing. I'm sorry. I know. I feel like companies that are self sufficient that rely on. So the company may rely on you. A lot of the companies rely on me and a lot of people that go through things. You look at it from a different lens. If you could relate to it and you're able to make a decision based off your. I understand what you're saying. Based off your human heart. There's a lot of stories and you know you could have been like you pull me to the side and shit like that. We're gonna have to get into it.

[Joe Budden]

Everybody up here but maybe with the exception of Parks has had.

[Ish]

But you have used your heart.

[Joe Budden]

Unsavorable story out there that if the company was on bullshit could get you the fuck outta here. Yeah, all of us. And Parks maybe just keep his on a different lipstick alley. I don't know where but we all got. Ain't nobody exempt. Yo. Everybody get a turn.

[Ish]

The fact remains that you're exactly able to still stand by us or stand by the people because the business relies on you.

[Flip]

No, no to me. Not just that he could make decision. Well what you listed with everybody. The business wasn't affected. The business wasn't.

[Ish]

But it relies on. It's a Joe. But if you understand what I'm saying.

[Joe Budden]

Freeze.

[Ish]

I'm probably not saying it right. Like he can make the decision. I'm gonna keep this person here because the business is not gonna be affected.

[Flip]

No, he's saying the sole decision relies on you. It's your.

[Joe Budden]

Thank God.

[Ish]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And the business. The business won't be affected.

[Flip]

Because when I say the business affected, I'm talking about again back to the financial.

[Ish]

Yeah, the where.

[Flip]

Now this company could be as a name a lawsuit on it. Now the business gets affected.

[Joe Budden]

But I do understand if I go sell half these companies for $500 million and now I have to answer to people.

[Flip]

They often get.

[Joe Budden]

Go ahead.

[Ish]

I noticed he been taking a lot of Patreon screenshots. I noticed 41 minutes, 42.

[Joe Budden]

And then you stand that rising fast.

[Ish]

Boy, my started to rise.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, why didn't do the times. Hey, sit tight. Just sit tight for a second. Damn. What was I saying?

[Flip]

The was I saying? 500 mil. You sell half for five.

[Joe Budden]

Now you got an answers to other people.

[Parks]

People do with nothing that you've been doing.

[Joe Budden]

And those people don't give a about it. They don't. They don't flip the net. No, they don't get him out.

[Flip]

That's my point.

[Joe Budden]

Get him out. Yeah, and I think that's the position that he in. So I get that. It just bothers me, that's all. That's all.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Not saying that I won't ever be in that position. They have to make a similar decision.

[Flip]

But five foot six, sweet Chuck looking man from police academy. Remember the.

[Ish]

Never had no girls. They don't know what the he talking about.

[Flip]

Like he just don't relate.

[Joe Budden]

He did what?

[Flip]

Oh yeah.

[Joe Budden]

He gotta go shout out to Shannon. Shout out Joe. Like I was watching Sterling Sharp's hall of fame inductee.

[Flip]

I cried the other day.

[Joe Budden]

It was definitely cried how he was up there talking. I saved it, but it was too long. I won't play it for y'. All. But he got up there. The first brothers inducted in the hall of Fame. He got up there and said everything I do, I do. Did it for this. For this person right here. When daddy died, when this person died, it was just us. And then it brought me back to Shannon apologizing. And I know what that apology is. When you love somebody so much and Something you did on bullshit overshadows something like the hall of Fame. I know how Shannon feel, so everything else is icing on the cake. You find me from espn, cool. You find me from over here, cool. Right now. I don't care about none of that. I let my brother do.

[Flip]

I disappointed my brother.

[Joe Budden]

I let my brother down. And I put this smut during my brother's most acclaimed accoladed. I know how he feeling, so God damn, man. Shout out. Shout out to Sterling Sharp. Congratulations to both of these brothers and Shannon, I hope you bounce back. I hope you bounce back.

[Flip]

I think you will. Definitely was a tearjerker. I cry definitely.

[Joe Budden]

I cry for sure. I cry for sure. When once he said, said, hey, I need you to come on up here. Oh, God. Oh, God. It's. It's over. I'm a still looking out.

[Flip]

No. And you could tell they when he talk about his family, he like, yo, my, we was the other poor. Like, I ain't see running water till college poor. Like, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So my brother was the.

[Joe Budden]

The. The.

[Flip]

The shining example of a man. That's the only example I have. So everything I did, I did to almost honor him. My brother retired. You know what I'm saying? Like, my brother retired. He gave me sneakers. He drove the. My brother gave me the fly whip, and he drove the old truck. So my brother was rich. I'm driving the dope, he driving the up. And now I let you down.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah.

[Ish]

What?

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

That's a different type of pain. It's a different type of pain.

[Flip]

Different.

[Joe Budden]

Go ahead and put your shoes on. Put your shoes on. You trying to hit the with a foot fetish? Girl, Ain't nobody looking at them feet, girl, you can put on your pumps. It's fine. Put on them Terry Burches.

[Melissa Ford]

These are Giuseppe's.

[Ish]

She be correcting the out of. We got some of her shoes, boy.

[Joe Budden]

Well, she just got. Well, all right.

[Ish]

She didn't just get yourself.

[Joe Budden]

She got the alo Giuseppes. You got the gift Giuseppe. Oh, you got the collab.

[Ish]

Giuseppe's in North Face.

[Joe Budden]

I miss you so much, man. Just been up here getting along.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, wow.

[Joe Budden]

No, not dog fouling. I miss dog.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm gonna put an end to that.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, I love that. I love that. I got an invite to speak somewhere.

[Melissa Ford]

Ooh, where?

[Joe Budden]

Where? Harvard. Really? For what, Cuz? I'm mean, watch your mouth. Cool. Yeah, you cool. He. I don't with him, though. I don't with that. He just did like, why. Why you what topic, bro? Listen, listen, chill, chill. Look at what times are do talk about it now about some black business and just designing the future for black entrepreneurs. Nice keynote speaker. Now hold the applause. Hold the applause.

[Parks]

Congrats, man.

[Joe Budden]

Clapping. I told them a dropout got invited and it wasn't even a golf clap. All right, forget it.

[Ish]

Yo, proud of you, bro.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, that's great.

[Joe Budden]

Big clap.

[Flip]

You going?

[Joe Budden]

Oh.

[Ish]

Let'S go, man. It's your mother, August.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, we climb more for the WWE than hardware.

[Ish]

And she didn't even clap right.

[Joe Budden]

She missed when I get that clap.

[Melissa Ford]

Sorry.

[Joe Budden]

Jeez. Oh, my God.

[Parks]

You gonna do it, right?

[Joe Budden]

I don't know. Come on, son.

[Parks]

You should do it.

[Joe Budden]

Should. Man, I've been. I've been. I've been pretty successful and like Flip was saying earlier, like getting out of your comfort zone and some shit working like. I didn't want to do that time's piece. We did it. It was work. Yeah, I didn't want to go to wwe. We did it. It worked. Yeah. So maybe I'll go do it. You should do it, but you should do it instinctually. Do I want to do. I was just honored to receive the invitation.

[Parks]

Of course.

[Joe Budden]

But I know some other people may have gotten that invite and had to rescind it.

[Flip]

Why would you not want to go?

[Ish]

How you know other people got the invite and resented it.

[Parks]

May have been a conversation on the podcast before.

[Flip]

Yo, this is terrible, son.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not.

[Ish]

Mel got an invite.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not talking about Mel.

[Ish]

Okay, Don't.

[Joe Budden]

Don't apply. People up here may have gotten an invite before and got it rescinded. Mine sturdy all the way through. Like from now till Feb. It's legit, man.

[Ish]

What happened?

[Melissa Ford]

Just don't walk out to your door naked and it will stick.

[Joe Budden]

No, I did and they still invited me.

[Melissa Ford]

Oh, wow.

[Joe Budden]

That's the difference between us.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay, man.

[Ish]

Why you got your invitation?

[Melissa Ford]

I don't know. Ask Harvard.

[Joe Budden]

Everybody body don't hit the. You know what I mean? You say you got it because you got a better body on my body.

[Ish]

No, ma'.

[Joe Budden]

Am. Ain't coming to my. You crazy. Yeah.

[Flip]

That'S crazy.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my Lord. That's fine. Now I ain't inviting Mel so she can invite home Harvard to hot and bother. Now sit down, go up there, talk to the professor.

[Offset]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Get ahead.

[Ish]

Graham, is that you?

[Joe Budden]

You ain't put in a word?

[Melissa Ford]

No, I'm fine, thank you, cuz.

[Joe Budden]

That I remember. That hurt. That hurt.

[Melissa Ford]

It did hurt my feelings, but I fix it up. No, it's cool. It's cool.

[Parks]

All right, well, I don't think you should do it then.

[Melissa Ford]

No, he should.

[Ish]

Absolutely.

[Joe Budden]

Solidarity.

[Ish]

Oh, would you want him. Would you want him to go do it, Mel?

[Melissa Ford]

Absolutely.

[Flip]

You shouldn't even say nothing. He shouldn't even want to do it on a strip.

[Joe Budden]

You.

[Ish]

You wouldn't want him to go.

[Melissa Ford]

I. I had nothing to do with this. He should absolutely go. I mean, what was the point of doing the New York Times article if you weren't going to accept all of the invites to do keynote speaker and talk about how you took this little tiny podcast to a multi million dollar business?

[Ish]

Tiny Po saved you, girl. You was. She was in Florida in a flood. I mean la. The flood.

[Melissa Ford]

I'm talking about when he started it. You.

[Ish]

The flooded studio. You forgot.

[Parks]

You booted it to Mexico and got all this hate.

[Joe Budden]

Oh.

[Ish]

Got out the wall. You're the sweet cat rocking f in my face. Ask could he see the grenade.

[Joe Budden]

No. What's our song? What's. I'm leaving.

[Parks]

Come on.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. No, no, no.

[Parks]

It's funny cuz it also so opens up the whoosh. I thought it was the same whoosh.

[Joe Budden]

N Mel reminding them that I walked out naked.

[Flip]

That was sick.

[Joe Budden]

That was some sick. That was sick shit. No good is coming your way in America. Maybe in Mexico. Okay. Johnny Manziel says he's going to smack the shit out of Gilly the Kid when he sees him.

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah, Okay.

[Flip]

I think Johnny Manziel got another thing coming that he don't know about.

[Joe Budden]

Which.

[Flip]

Is a left hook with an uppercut behind it.

[Joe Budden]

I don't believe that Johnny Manziel is going to slap the out of Gilly the Kid when he said. I don't believe that. I think just be tweeting.

[Melissa Ford]

Why does he.

[Joe Budden]

Johnny Manzel is coming to the defense of Cam Newton and this is in Jalen hurts Cam Newton debate.

[Parks]

I don't like that this debate has gone on this long and spread out to Johnny Manziel.

[Joe Budden]

Johnny Manziel kind of just inserted himself in black business.

[Parks]

Yes, you did.

[Joe Budden]

Like, and I get it. That's your man. You standing up for him or whatever. But he came in hot, heavy and.

[Parks]

Aggressive saying, I want to smack you as little.

[Joe Budden]

I'm going to smack you when I someone you don't know, like, because I'm an Eagles fan and I think that one quarterback is better than another. That's just a lot. That's a lot.

[Melissa Ford]

But isn't that just like a. Like a. Like just a term that people use. It's like you.

[Parks]

When I see sarcasm.

[Joe Budden]

No, no.

[Flip]

You say, that's France. Knock the out you.

[Joe Budden]

Yo. Knock you out.

[Flip]

And what he. What he said, yo at Gilly the kid may be the biggest loser on the planet.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay, well, that's different.

[Flip]

Talking like you done anything on a football field. If I see you just know I'm going to slap the out of you.

[Melissa Ford]

Okay, that's different. That ain't so.

[Flip]

That ain't said in the same.

[Parks]

Yeah, it doesn't sound funny.

[Melissa Ford]

Nope, not at all. Take it back. Okay.

[Parks]

Unless they know each other something I don't think they do.

[Melissa Ford]

That sounds still.

[Flip]

I don't even know you. Somebody know you, you know, that you talk to like that.

[Parks]

Yeah, yeah.

[Flip]

The biggest loser on the planet.

[Offset]

And that's a lot.

[Melissa Ford]

That is aggressive.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Cuz he's not the biggest loser on the planet by a long shot.

[Flip]

Not even close. Yeah, Johnny might.

[Joe Budden]

I'm just not with typing that. I'mma smack the out. If you going to do that, then do that. But to type and all this, that's. That's just a lot.

[Parks]

I'm pretty sure if you type it, you're not going to do it.

[Joe Budden]

Shoot the out of Johnny Manzel.

[Flip]

Gilly will take his dead hand. Gilly will beat the shit out of Johnny Manziel. I'm sure this just looked like cloudy.

[Offset]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Or like drunk. What time? What time was it?

[Ish]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Flip]

Oh, yeah.

[Parks]

We might have a little whiskey in.

[Joe Budden]

The system and that's being nice.

[Parks]

Yeah, yeah.

[Flip]

1253.

[Joe Budden]

I like how Gilly was like, okay, you gonna see more than whiskey. I got that. What am I doing next? Am I just walking away hobbling off?

[Flip]

Yeah, play that out.

[Joe Budden]

Like, how does the rest of that scene look? I did like that from Gilly. This podcast does not condone violence. But if y' all niggas gonna get to it, do it at the fight. The Crawford fight. When I'm there, the coke.

[Parks]

The coke on the nose was also very funny.

[Flip]

Hilarious.

[Joe Budden]

Really funny.

[Parks]

Crazy.

[Joe Budden]

Gilly's an acquired sense of humor. Like, I see how some niggas could see that coke video and be like, I thought it was funny, but not just that.

[Flip]

Nigga, you jumped in this and disrespected me. I could take it however he Gilly, I don't care how you look at it. Gilly ain't do nothing wrong.

[Parks]

Not at all. Not at all.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I don't think he did either.

[Flip]

I'm over here talking to him. Me and him got a thing Going. And then you jump in and say what you say.

[Joe Budden]

All right.

[Flip]

You inserted yourself into this. Yep.

[Joe Budden]

Nicki Minaj somehow ended up in a back and forth with dez Bronze client. A lot of things were said that are too foul for me to repeat, so I will not. I feel like that's a reoccurring theme every. Every time this comes up.

[Parks]

I hate seeing all this.

[Joe Budden]

It's. It's. It is nasty to see. It is nasty to see. And if this was Nelly Furtado or somebody, we'd be carrying this different. That's a fact.

[Parks]

That's a fact.

[Joe Budden]

If Fergie was talking about. If this was one of them acting like this boy, this pod had his pod on fire for the next two months. But Nikki has my phone number, and I don't want no smoke, no trouble. Just unhinged behavior. I keep saying it. It's unhinged behavior. I don't know why. I'm not saying that. She don't have her own reason, but how it looks. It does look nuts. I'm sorry. I can't sit here and pretend it looks nuts. Only because dez, when I caught his reply, I thought he handled it perfectly. Yeah, he did. He did.

[Offset]

I'm a fan.

[Joe Budden]

I love you. I'm a fan. I don't want no. No beef. No problems. Good luck with everything. God bless you. I seen that and was like, that may be the best way to reply to Nikki. And then I took a nap and woke up and it was all, hell on. I'm like, yo, how did we get here from I love you and I don't want no beef.

[Flip]

I'm a fan.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

Yes, I would if it went to hell. I'm really interested to see what her first response was right after that.

[Joe Budden]

It was all pretty good. It was all bad. It was all really, really, really bad. Bringing up, like, some really got it bad shit.

[Melissa Ford]

Got it, got it, got it.

[Joe Budden]

That I can't. That I'm not.

[Flip]

I'm not.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not bringing up.

[Parks]

And then they both got nasty with it. Yeah, it's all. It's all bad. It's all bad. I don't like it.

[Flip]

All right, now let me ask y', all in the book, they both got nasty.

[Joe Budden]

And don't sign me up for no fight. That's.

[Flip]

I was getting to that part.

[Joe Budden]

Me in my relationship. I'm not talking about Nikki and her. I'm asking us in my relationship.

[Flip]

Fellas, here.

[Joe Budden]

No, no. My girl hopefully would not sign me up to fight for $10 million while I'm not in training camp. Like, don't make me fight some athlete nigga. While I ain't trained at all. I ain't. How tall is DEZ Bryant? I think it was a catch. I still think it was a catch. That died. Shit. That was some of the most athletic shit I. I haven't seen.

[Parks]

Yeah, no.

[Joe Budden]

Send me to fight a. That I'm supposed to be fighting, not DEZ Bryant who's angry because you done said a whole bunch of. While I was in the supermarket.

[Ish]

Crazy.

[Offset]

Okay?

[Flip]

That's crazy.

[Joe Budden]

It's crazy. Clip it up kind of crazy, you know, TMP thoughts and prayers.

[Ish]

You don't like to see people that you. That don't know you in situations like that. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Budden]

Or don't.

[Ish]

Don't remember you. You don't like to see that, man, it's crazy, man. You can't even really say nothing.

[Joe Budden]

Well, I said my. I said more. I said what I had to say.

[Ish]

You said. I heard what you said. The thing is, you said what?

[Joe Budden]

You just crazy. Yeah.

[Ish]

There's a value in unhinged behavior, though. But not with people that you love, Joe. We don't have to see that because at some point you. You try to find an understanding in what's being done. Like, okay, there may be a point, but when it keeps going and keeps going, I think the understanding or the validity gets lost in that. Lost in translation. She's too much now talking about somebody being on it. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Just the way she mudslang calls for more mudslinging. And then you in a mudslinging battle.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

And that's just nasty. Don't know decent human being want to even report on a mudslinging battle. It's all nasty and disgusting.

[Parks]

And it all just started over football contracts. Like.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Inserting yourself.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know.

[Ish]

Maybe watch.

[Joe Budden]

It is a superpower, though. I hate to say this. If you're watching myself, I'm shooting nigga some type of bail. I'm not trying to. But it is a superpower to behave that way and not really care what nobody else is thinking. I don't know that that's what's happening, but she do that shit and just go disappear back into oblivion until it's time to do it again. True. I don't know what's going on with Nikki, but we love you thoughts and bridge. Same to dez. Let's not send niggas to fight each other for money. Need. Let's not. None of that. Let's use our words and communicate and not be divisive and yada yada. All that PC did y' all know I'm not good at so I'm skipping it.

[Parks]

Where's Mark?

[Joe Budden]

Where the hell is Mark? He's in Martha's venue. Let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see. Is there anything else? Anything else?

[Flip]

Charlemagne.

[Joe Budden]

I don't care, man. I don't care. It's over. It's too many guests here for me to do it. If it was no guests like we got pack it but I'm sorry, I can't.

[Flip]

I'm down.

[Joe Budden]

I'm done actually potting. I'm finished. I have a sleeper.

[Parks]

Oh, play a sleeper.

[Flip]

That works.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, let me find a sleeper. Unless y' all got something to say. What?

[Ish]

No, no, no.

[Parks]

I do want to say rest in peace to Hitman Howe T producer from special ed and yeah.

[Melissa Ford]

Rest in peace.

[Parks]

Rest in peace. How do you etc character.

[Joe Budden]

I got one more thing to say too.

[Ish]

Forgive me. How do you feel people that I mean just everybody watch you man.

[Joe Budden]

That's.

[Ish]

That's it. Like everybody watch you and it's great to have so much, so many great eyes on you. And that's. That's just what I wanted to say.

[Joe Budden]

That's what you want to say? Yeah.

[Ish]

Yeah. Be watching, yo be calling be watching man. And it's just low as luck. This some illuminati going on for you?

[Joe Budden]

Are they what they saying?

[Ish]

Are they saying good threats in quiet ways. Yo, I seen this says screenshots of Flip yo who this? Your man. Your man. Talk about shit. Tell that chill out.

[Joe Budden]

Somebody hit you to threaten you about me? No, I'm about to say I'll turn this whole up right now.

[Ish]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Joe Budden]

Oh okay. I miss G called me oh dollar my guy. Happy birthday dollar Happy birthday Sk no I love skane.

[Ish]

You speak to him yet?

[Joe Budden]

No.

[Parks]

I do also want to shout out Gibbs and Alchemist sold 38,000 highest numbers of both of their careers first week. That's awesome.

[Joe Budden]

Totally unrelated I wanted to let Duke. Duke Dennis. That's the name, right? Duke Dennis the streamer. That's my man. I really like what he's doing, but every time I see him with the streamers he does look considerably older than in him. Like he's big now I with Duke Dennis but. And he got a lot of motion but when he be at the events everyone he's parks is dying right now. He's so much older than the Rest of the streamers.

[Melissa Ford]

Is that a bad thing?

[Joe Budden]

And that has never mattered until this past week, this past weekend. Arrested when he. They. But everybody's gotten arrested. And I'm not. I don't laugh at nobody when they get arrested. That's a real serious thing. Depending on what you got arrested for. He got arrested, the report says, from playing. From playing hide and seek in the mall. And so when I read it, I was like, see, See the video? No way of him getting arrested or played a hide and seek arrested.

[Ish]

Wait, wait, nah. Tell me what the going on. Freeze.

[Flip]

They arrested him. That nobody getting arrested is funny.

[Joe Budden]

But then when you look up to.

[Flip]

The second level, you see Kasat walking by across the top.

[Joe Budden]

And Ky tried to come shoot a bail, right? Try to help him.

[Flip]

I didn't see that in that clip. It was just a clip that went out. I don't know what happened after the clip.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Yo, when you older than your crew, you can't do everything they want to do, is what I'm saying. So I can see Kai saying, hey, man, let's play hidey seeking them all. Duke Dennis say no. You were supposed to say no, man. Nah, nah, I'm not gonna do that. I'll be the ref. You're too big to even hide in the mall. You and Wes Elm looking dumb in the face. Pull behind the mannequin. Hey, what are you doing?

[Erickson]

Oh, shit.

[Joe Budden]

And then that's just a stupid reason to even have your people read that you got locked up. I was playing hide and seek, nigga. Find something to do with your time. Duke Dennis, that's from my heart to yours. I love everything you're doing, but stop that shit. Seriously.

[Parks]

Sleepers.

[Joe Budden]

It's crazy. It's crazy, crazy, crazy shit. Crazy. I do have a sleeper. I'm gonna go with my man Josh Quee.

[Ish]

What up, boy?

[Joe Budden]

Flip the Jagged Edge joint. This record is called He Can't. Oh, wait up. The slider got it.

[Erickson]

I'm telling you, he can't love you.

[Ish]

Like I love you, baby and you know it, too. You should never want to be with a man. Ain't trying to sl no f no time with you Ain't too many left sh. You can put that hurt on the shelf. Yeah, your last man ain't listen with me.

[Joe Budden]

Going to.

[Ish]

You should never want to be with.

[Joe Budden]

A man.

[Offset]

No pay for you no.

[Joe Budden]

Time with that is brand new music from Jacques. That record is called He Can't. Available in your phone and on DSP's right this second. Shout out to Jacques Friend of the show man that's dope. All right, what we got going to.

[Flip]

West coast with it? This record is called for a necklace. This is Mozz.

[Joe Budden]

You.

[I]

If I saw would you still love me like the mother? I ain't think so either. That's why I'm never snitching them type of things you boys that never witness. Cuz I go lay down in that cell like it was heaven sent it better miss me they lost a dollar on his brother he been betting with me Just slap a nick on every bag and that's a extra 50. When it was smoke I never left the biddy I had business to stand on and as a man I stood pull up on me with your blam you good, you with the thugs Real street shouldn't pay attention to subs Real street ain't associating with duds fingernails dirty, got it out the mud that's how my life is Ways deep as way different from you diving in well get him, we gonna try again if she got drop shot by it then we ain't worried about the rentals y' all been hiding in. We gonna find him, he'd be like, go get the rest Knew the NBA wasn't with me with them checks from there it's been a set Utilize your yeeky if you is upset, feel like you a threat Cause I don't think you threaten show them boys the world you gotta get out here and fetch it you know what you gotta do for now for a necklace Tell me about your birthday coming up you need a pretty cause you know what you gotta do for now for a necklace nigga you know what you gotta do for now for a necklace Gotta spill blood behind these Vs ones, y' all It'd be like go get the rest New the NBA one with me with them checks from there it's been a set Definitely gonna step definitely gonna total out this load this ton of rig same jersey mention this just a different there they say the bitty back on fire like that ain't been apparent we come from drug offensive homes and other single parents forever foes death the only way I lead this marriage we still living careless it be like I don't get the rest Knew the NBA wasn't with me with them checks from there it's been the set Utilize your yee if you niggas is upset feel like you a threat Cause I don't think you threaten show them boys the world you gotta get out here and fetch it you know what you gotta do for now for a necklace. Tell me about your birthday coming. Coming up. You need a present. Cause you know what you gotta do for now for a necklace.

[Flip]

And again, that record is for a necklace by Mozzie off of his new album Intrusive Thoughts 2, which will be available this Friday.

[Joe Budden]

I'm gonna go hold up for a second. That. That. That was heat. Before we finish the sleepers, I think we should note that Lil Wayne is putting the drought and dedication mixtapes back on or on streaming.

[Flip]

On dsp. On streaming.

[Joe Budden]

So let me hit the round of applause for that.

[Flip]

So that mean he owns that content?

[Joe Budden]

I can't speak to. Well, I don't know who owns what. Whoever owns it okayed it to be on and streaming. And he's a classic mixtape series for the first time there so his fans can rejoice. That's one, two. I don't believe for one second that Tiffany Haddish and Jason Lee had picture a baby. Me neither. I meant to tell y' all that. I didn't.

[Flip]

Even earlier, was that who that was? Tiffany Haddish, that's who that was.

[Joe Budden]

Pretty little baby, though, huh? Okay.

[Flip]

Beautiful little baby.

[Joe Budden]

Beautiful baby. Who. Who's ever. It is. Yeah. I mean, I just am not that congratulations to somebody somewhere, but. Yeah. Nah, I don't.

[Flip]

Why couldn't that happen?

[Joe Budden]

Huh?

[Flip]

Why couldn't it happen?

[Joe Budden]

I'm not saying it could not happen. I'm saying I don't believe it.

[Flip]

Gotcha.

[Joe Budden]

It could happen happened. I'm not. I'm not believing that.

[Flip]

They just dropped the picture with the. The cats out the bag as the cat. No.

[Joe Budden]

And that baby is 7 years old in that picture. I'm cool, bro. That baby, biggest shit that nigga could dunk, like three or four months old. That baby ain't fresh out no goddamn womb. And Tiffany Haddish is a clout chaser. Jason Lee's her friend. Like I'm not. I need more confirmation than the Internet showing me something and saying this is what it is. If so, I mean, congrats to them, but I don't believe that for two seconds. With that said, Parks, what you got?

[Parks]

I'm going to Philly. This is RJ Payne Hustle for my last name.

[Joe Budden]

Beautiful pain Entertainment.

[Ish]

Phre on the beach See it's full speed ahead. Cause I need the bread. I'm like an evil Peter Parker How I feed the web Digital dope the shit they keep us fed One hit and eureka. Niggas passing out you wonder if they sleep or dead Short and sweet, I'm a street celeb and sure that you're my meat so you know she trying to show me she a freaking bed. I'm on the beach instead and it's legal think I sell the only drug around the world that can beat the feds second to none. I slept with my gun, stood tall at the worst times I was expected to run I live a life that could be hectic for some and struck it rich. I heard these rappers sucking dick just so they records get spun. Now when I say I'm rich, you probably thinking Grammys and wealth. I'm talking loyalty, the love nigga family and health. When I say I'm the people's champ, you better hand me the belt. You had to be poor before to understand me yourself listen, I'm not only getting cheddar, I'm in better shape and I'm energetic. I'm about to get my credit straight, you should listen more instead of hate, I'm trying to give you hungry food for thought now come and set a plate this ain't that fast food they fed the last dudes they cook your dinners with the chemicals the labs use. I got some bad news they sell you anything and kill you to get rich? Don't get it twisted, nigga cash rules. This is organic pain from the mother earth. I keep it subtle on a court like Jesus Shuttlesworth. You see me eating good now I had to struggle first I finally blew up I wasn't scared to let my bubble burst the plane on autopilot I'm just flying high every bar said the truth, my nigga I ain't lie life is hard for for everybody you ain't trying why get off your ass and stop crying Try your try your ey.

[Parks]

That's RJ Payne hustle for my last name that's fire off his ep. It feels good to win that was.

[Joe Budden]

Absolutely which is a lot of grow.

[Parks]

Man bars from pain.

[Erickson]

I love to hear it, love to hear it.

[Flip]

Going to song is called clarity it's the amor.

[Parks]

I did not expect this from the COVID.

[Erickson]

Exactly how my body tastes and who's coming next up in the race. So tell me are we good? Cuz I never really understand it's not like I said you once on my hand but you only good at making plans and that's all but you never follow through with should bother you to stress me.

[Joe Budden]

You could have just left.

[Erickson]

Me just tell me the truth you know what to do to impress me oh, trust me baby let's talk.

[Joe Budden]

I need.

[Erickson]

Some clarity would be Good for me. That song, some clarity make it clear for me that song. Something's changed from when we started things doubting all up in my head again questioning and then you tell me things that I want want to nag about another thing I get crazy when you say my name you don't want to be and save and you don't.

[Joe Budden]

You.

[Erickson]

Never follow through it should bother you to stress me you got to let.

[Joe Budden]

Me.

[Erickson]

Turn my love into what you don't have the heart to tell me why I only want the bottom line.

[Joe Budden]

I.

[Erickson]

Need some clarity.

[Parks]

Let'S see. Amores. Amores. I think that's right. Clarity. Super fire.

[Joe Budden]

That's the moors. The Amores.

[Parks]

That was fire. Mel.

[Melissa Ford]

All right. Mine is called Kill Switch by India Shop on.

[Joe Budden]

I want to play this one.

[Erickson]

Did you play it?

[Melissa Ford]

Did you play it?

[Erickson]

Before we get started, I have another one.

[Joe Budden]

No, we have guests.

[Erickson]

I don't want to have to carry your heart that's a dangerously dumb.

[Joe Budden]

Make.

[Erickson]

A whole mess to clean up the shadow we can put back the hearts that we break in the shadows where.

[Joe Budden]

They lay.

[Erickson]

Don'T wanna play with the no I'm losing my wish you came that night I'm feeling we need.

[Joe Budden]

Anybody.

[Erickson]

Else for you let's not even kill the crew. I don't want to have to carry your heart.

[Joe Budden]

Don'T look away now I.

[Erickson]

Don'T want to have to carry your.

[Parks]

That is India. Sean. Kill Switch.

[Joe Budden]

That was fire. No matter who else played it first.

[Melissa Ford]

Nobody played it first.

[Joe Budden]

But that was one of my favorite sleepers ever played on this pod.

[Melissa Ford]

It was just played right now for the first time ever.

[Joe Budden]

Well, my pod days are so much better. Better with you. And I'm so glad. And honestly, I'm glad. I'm glad you back. I missed you, man. These talking about ladies and gentlemen, hopefully y' all have enjoyed this part. Cause it's over. That's it. You ain't getting another opinion. A take a Kiki unpacking. I don't care what personal joke, inside joke it is is over. I ain't going to lie to you. I ain't going to lie to y'. All. Cameras in a Celine on my arm we get ghost. Hey, you already know what it is yo that God forgives I don't by Ross. Somebody tell me why that's not why why that album is not better better than Teflon Dawn.

[Flip]

It's too long.

[Joe Budden]

It's too long. That's the only reason. Teflon dawn is concise, perfect, but they're both Great albums. God forgives. I don't. God forgives. I don't. I just been cruising with 16 ain't enough kings. All that. That. That is so fire, man. Yo, keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until next time.

[Parks]

Deeper rap was fire too, huh? Deeper rap was fired too.

[Flip]

That's my favorite. That's my favorite Ra. Deeper than rap. That was the one for me.

[Joe Budden]

We bid you a do farewell Audio Cerebra di a V star V or so long about. A simple head nod will suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments and moments. Moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Anybody got any plans during the week? That's interesting. That I'll be able to exploit and make fun of.

[Melissa Ford]

I think I'm going to Cleveland.

[Joe Budden]

All right. What's going on out there? It's a nice conversation. No, what they doing out there?

[Melissa Ford]

It's a conference.

[Joe Budden]

A conference?

[Melissa Ford]

Yeah.

[Parks]

She tried to fight back.

[Joe Budden]

Cleveland University.

[Melissa Ford]

Or some black journalists.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, she trying to bear. Why you say Big mail gonna be in Cleveland. Shout out Hootie who if you see her. Anybody else? Anybody else doing something this week?

[Flip]

I'm going to this clip show Thursday.

[Parks]

So I'm going with you. Put me on that list.

[Joe Budden]

I'm going with you. Tell malice so all them you fly ab Lava bush. Tell them we coming. Pharrell.

[Parks]

Tell Pharrell we're coming.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, you know not going. Yo, don't ask about it. You're not going. Know where at. Why you coming out with us? Your girl went to Portugal. Your girl went to cure side. Where your girl at? Flip. Flip.

[Ish]

I'm just working, man. Nothing particular.

[Joe Budden]

Got it. Got it.

[Ish]

Trying to figure it out.

[Joe Budden]

Issue anything this week.

[Flip]

Work for a living.

[Joe Budden]

I ain't got too much going on, man. Just work in the gym. Preparation for my birthday. Staying true to God. Just trying to be a faithful and humble servant to him. Sure. Live my life. Life in his likeness, man. That's. That's all I got for you. Sure. Y' all hold it down out there, man. Summer coming to a close. These badass kids in Texas is going back to school.

[Flip]

They go to school before us, right?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, sometimes.

[Flip]

Start now, damn near.

[Joe Budden]

They starting a couple days this week. They start in a couple days this week? This week.

[Flip]

Some of them starting this week.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, this week they start. It's early as I ain't never known again. Y' all hold it down out there, man. This is a real good pod. Shout out to offset. Shout out to Jid, who swung by out to the other guests this late? And all the guests that'll be even later. Yeah.

[Parks]

Subscribe to Patreon.

[Joe Budden]

Again. Subscribe to that Patreon. Or don't just go over there and go buy some. It's all, all? It's all there for you? It's all there for you? Again? Shout out to Netflix the whole WWE Havoc. Rest in peace, Prodigy, Method Man, Everybody I seen at the event last night, Cho, we're gonna let this rock and call it a day after the verse, Shout out to the suicide? Or rather crucified? I prophesize your whole crew demise? But Tulu wife reside in Cuba? Shoot you, let you bleed out inside? Hey, they go. We'll fold that up right now. Don't look away now.