The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 850 | "When Dove Cries"
Release Date: August 9, 2025
Host: The Joe Budden Network
Description: Join Joe Budden and his eclectic group of friends as they navigate a myriad of topics, from hip-hop dynamics and award show controversies to social media privacy and personal anecdotes, all delivered with their signature humor and candidness.
1. Introduction and Housekeeping (00:00 - 04:48)
The episode kicks off with Joe Budden addressing the audience, emphasizing the playful and non-serious nature of their discussions. A humorous attempt to limit cursing for the first few minutes sets the tone, leading to playful banter among the hosts.
- Joe Budden: “Please try not to curse for 40 seconds or something.” [00:00]
- Mal: “Like you just did.” [00:46]
2. Hot Topics and Current Events (04:49 - 34:48)
a. Chanel’s Controversial Shoe Line (00:55 - 03:52)
The hosts humorously discuss a fictional or satirical news item about Chanel releasing a shoe line integrated with ankle monitors, leading to laughter and mock-serious debates.
- Mal: “Chanel’s making money off dudes in prison.” [01:51]
b. Monstars Group Chat and Relationship Dynamics (03:58 - 07:05)
Discussion shifts to internal group dynamics, referencing a “Monstars” chat and teasing each other’s personal lives, including playful jabs about relationships and appearances.
- Parks: “What's the name of that little group chat?” [02:27]
- Ish: “Y' all in competition for drug dealer award.” [03:01]
c. Flip’s Near-Death Experience (07:22 - 10:05)
The conversation takes a serious turn as Mal shares a personal story about Flip nearly dying, highlighting the importance of vigilance and support within their community.
- Mal: “Flip almost wasn't here with us.” [07:26]
- Joe Budden: “So thank God he's here.” [09:41]
d. Concert Reviews: Meatpacking District and Earth Gang (17:12 - 25:18)
The hosts delve into recent concert experiences, specifically reviewing a Meatpacking District event featuring Earth Gang. They praise the performances, discuss the venue's layout, and express their excitement for future shows.
- Flip: “Earth Gang was actually fire.” [18:50]
- Parks: “Their visuals were fire.” [24:49]
e. BET Suspends Soul Train and Hip Hop Awards (28:07 - 35:52)
A deep dive into BET’s decision to suspend the Soul Train and Hip Hop Awards, the hosts analyze the potential reasons behind the move, including profitability issues and shifting media landscapes. They debate the cultural significance of these awards compared to mainstream counterparts like the Grammys.
- Mal: “BET has reportedly suspended Soul Train and Hip Hop Awards.” [29:19]
- Joe Budden: “This was a sign that it wasn’t going well.” [34:46]
3. Social Media and Privacy Concerns (34:49 - 47:22)
a. Instagram’s New Maps Feature (46:32 - 51:43)
The hosts critique Instagram’s introduction of a real-time location sharing feature, labeling it as a dangerous privacy risk. They discuss the potential for stalking, accidental location sharing, and offer tips to safeguard personal information.
- Mal: “This sounds like the worst fucking idea ever.” [29:19]
- Flip: “Go into your phone camera settings and make sure that your camera doesn't have access to your location.” [48:12]
4. Breaking News: Stockton City Funds Misuse (47:23 - 58:41)
A significant segment covers a news story about Stockton’s interim city manager, Jason Lee, under investigation for misusing $50,000 from the city's risk mitigation fund to support a Wild 'N Out event without proper authorization. The hosts express their opinions on the matter, discussing the implications for local politics and the integrity of public funds.
- Joe Budden: “This is why I don’t fuck with you, Jason Lee.” [93:03]
- Mal: “It was amazing.” [81:31]
News Highlights:
- Investigation Details: The funds were intended to prevent the cancellation of a comedy show, with concerns about economic impact.
- Hosts' Opinions: Joe criticizes Jason Lee's actions, questioning his integrity and leadership.
- Community Impact: Discussion on how such misuse of funds affects public trust and future events.
5. Listener Interactions and Advice (58:42 - 87:42)
a. Caller Widdle J.'s Family Concern (Approaching 1:40:00)
Joe introduces a heartfelt listener question from Widdle J., who seeks advice on reconnecting with a sister trapped in an unhealthy relationship with a drug addict.
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Widdle J.:
“Has anyone been in a similar position trying to reconnect with a sibling you cut off, especially out of concern for their safety and well-being?” [148:07]
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Flip: “You can’t do it without opening those old wounds, though.” [150:07]
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Mal: “Reach out with non-judgment and love.” [159:07]
Discussion Points:
- Strategies for Reconnection: Importance of non-judgmental communication and patience.
- Emotional Challenges: Acknowledging the difficulty of reopening past relationships.
- Hosts' Personal Experiences: Sharing their own stories of family conflict and reconciliation.
6. Music Reviews (87:43 - 125:58)
a. Gunna’s New Album (117:01 - 132:30)
The hosts provide an enthusiastic review of Gunna's latest project, praising its quality, cohesiveness, and Gunna's resilience amidst label disputes.
- Parks: “Jid's album is a love it Album of the year contender.” [117:17]
- Flip: “It's a fire album.” [117:43]
- Joe Budden: “Gunna is doing something like Atlanta Kendra type.” [133:28]
b. Bryson Tiller’s New Release (120:08 - 125:48)
Bryson Tiller’s album is discussed with mixed reviews. While some appreciate his foray into rap, others feel the execution falls short of expectations.
- Parks: “I like that record.” [121:04]
- Mal: “It's a great album.” [121:30]
c. Other Artists: Alchemist, Mozzy, Juicy J (125:49 - 134:36)
The hosts cover releases from Alchemist, Mozzy, and Juicy J, highlighting standout tracks and production quality.
- Flip: “I don't always want people to step out, but when it works, it does.” [125:28]
- Parks: “The Juicy J tape is hard, bro.” [122:34]
d. Discussion on Will I Am’s Controversial Comments (54:34 - 58:41)
A heated debate arises over Will I Am's remarks comparing Black Thought to Jay Z, with Joe defending Black Thought's prowess and criticizing Will I Am's authority to make such statements.
- Joe Budden: “Black Thought is 1 trillion times better than Jay Z.” [54:55]
- Flip: “Nobody would say that.” [56:00]
7. Event Promotions and Endorsements (125:59 - 143:09)
a. Chris Brown’s MetLife Concert (27:22 - 28:10)
Joe hyped up the upcoming MetLife concert featuring Chris Brown, emphasizing his excitement and the performer’s dynamic stage presence.
- Joe Budden: “Chris Brown is great music, too, at midlife.” [27:56]
b. PrizePicks Promotion (61:13 - 63:12)
An endorsement segment for PrizePicks, a daily fantasy sports platform, detailing how listeners can participate and win.
- Joe Budden: “Prize Picks is the best place to turn your sports knowledge into real cash money.” [61:13]
- Promotion Code: “Download the app and use promo code JBP for $50 instantly when you play your first $5 lineup.” [61:36]
8. Fun and Comedy: The Dildo-Throwing Incident (63:13 - 85:00)
A comedic discussion ensues about a bizarre incident where dildos were thrown at WNBA games, allegedly as part of a marketing gimmick by a cryptocurrency group.
- Joe Budden: “They are planning more pranks.” [66:30]
- Mal: “This is a hell of a marketing scheme.” [67:51]
- Flip: “It’s going up, really think I’m joking.” [68:40]
Highlights:
- Dildo Coin: Creation of a meme coin to protest toxic environments in the crypto world.
- Public Reaction: Hosts debate the appropriateness and implications of such pranks at sporting events.
- Future Predictions: Speculation on whether this trend will continue or escalate into more significant disruptions.
9. Personal Anecdotes and Relationships (85:00 - 160:30)
The hosts engage in candid conversations about personal relationships, aging, and maintaining appearances. They humorously discuss the concept of looking "dusty" as they age, balancing self-care with social life.
- Joe Budden: “If your sister’s happy with her drug addict boyfriend, then mind your business.” [155:00]
- Flip: “Just get a hobby.” [116:45]
- Mal: “I was at a conference and met my idols.” [81:31]
Key Points:
- Aging and Self-Perception: Exploring how appearance and lifestyle choices impact relationships and self-esteem.
- Balancing Public Image: Jokes about maintaining a youthful image versus embracing maturity.
- Advice on Relationships: Encouraging supportive and non-judgmental interactions within personal circles.
10. Closing Remarks and Farewells (160:31 - End)
The episode concludes with final thoughts on upcoming music and events, along with playful jabs and goodbyes.
- Joe Budden: “Shout out to Broccoli’s new album.” [127:01]
- Parks: “We got Mozzy’s 'Intrusive Thoughts'.” [125:58]
- Closing Banter:
Joe Budden: “Everybody stay safe this weekend. ... Until next time, I bid you adieu. Farewell. Adios.” [165:42]
Notable Quotes:
- Joe Budden: “Black Thought is 1 trillion times better than Jay Z.” [54:55]
- Mal: “Chanel’s making money off dudes in prison.” [01:51]
- Flip: “Earth Gang was actually fire.” [18:50]
- Parks: “Their visuals were fire.” [24:49]
- Joe Budden: “Prize Picks is the best place to turn your sports knowledge into real cash money.” [61:13]
- Mal: “This is a hell of a marketing scheme.” [67:51]
Conclusion
Episode 850 of The Joe Budden Podcast weaves through a tapestry of humor, serious discussions, and personal anecdotes. From dissecting the suspension of beloved award shows to navigating the complexities of social media privacy, and from reviewing the latest in hip-hop music to addressing heartfelt listener concerns, Joe and his friends deliver an engaging and multifaceted listen. Their blend of candid insights and playful interactions ensures that both long-time listeners and newcomers find something to enjoy and reflect upon.
For those interested in the dynamics of hip-hop culture, the impact of media changes on award shows, or simply seeking a blend of humor and honest conversation, this episode offers a comprehensive and entertaining experience.