Episode 850 | "When Dove Cries"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 850 | "When Dove Cries"

Release Date: August 9, 2025
Host: The Joe Budden Network
Description: Join Joe Budden and his eclectic group of friends as they navigate a myriad of topics, from hip-hop dynamics and award show controversies to social media privacy and personal anecdotes, all delivered with their signature humor and candidness.

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1. Introduction and Housekeeping (00:00 - 04:48)

The episode kicks off with Joe Budden addressing the audience, emphasizing the playful and non-serious nature of their discussions. A humorous attempt to limit cursing for the first few minutes sets the tone, leading to playful banter among the hosts.

• Joe Budden: “Please try not to curse for 40 seconds or something.” [00:00]
• Mal: “Like you just did.” [00:46]

2. Hot Topics and Current Events (04:49 - 34:48)

a. Chanel’s Controversial Shoe Line (00:55 - 03:52)

The hosts humorously discuss a fictional or satirical news item about Chanel releasing a shoe line integrated with ankle monitors, leading to laughter and mock-serious debates.

• Mal: “Chanel’s making money off dudes in prison.” [01:51]

b. Monstars Group Chat and Relationship Dynamics (03:58 - 07:05)

Discussion shifts to internal group dynamics, referencing a “Monstars” chat and teasing each other’s personal lives, including playful jabs about relationships and appearances.

• Parks: “What's the name of that little group chat?” [02:27]
• Ish: “Y' all in competition for drug dealer award.” [03:01]

c. Flip’s Near-Death Experience (07:22 - 10:05)

The conversation takes a serious turn as Mal shares a personal story about Flip nearly dying, highlighting the importance of vigilance and support within their community.

• Mal: “Flip almost wasn't here with us.” [07:26]
• Joe Budden: “So thank God he's here.” [09:41]

d. Concert Reviews: Meatpacking District and Earth Gang (17:12 - 25:18)

The hosts delve into recent concert experiences, specifically reviewing a Meatpacking District event featuring Earth Gang. They praise the performances, discuss the venue's layout, and express their excitement for future shows.

• Flip: “Earth Gang was actually fire.” [18:50]
• Parks: “Their visuals were fire.” [24:49]

e. BET Suspends Soul Train and Hip Hop Awards (28:07 - 35:52)

A deep dive into BET’s decision to suspend the Soul Train and Hip Hop Awards, the hosts analyze the potential reasons behind the move, including profitability issues and shifting media landscapes. They debate the cultural significance of these awards compared to mainstream counterparts like the Grammys.

• Mal: “BET has reportedly suspended Soul Train and Hip Hop Awards.” [29:19]
• Joe Budden: “This was a sign that it wasn’t going well.” [34:46]

3. Social Media and Privacy Concerns (34:49 - 47:22)

a. Instagram’s New Maps Feature (46:32 - 51:43)

The hosts critique Instagram’s introduction of a real-time location sharing feature, labeling it as a dangerous privacy risk. They discuss the potential for stalking, accidental location sharing, and offer tips to safeguard personal information.

• Mal: “This sounds like the worst fucking idea ever.” [29:19]
• Flip: “Go into your phone camera settings and make sure that your camera doesn't have access to your location.” [48:12]

4. Breaking News: Stockton City Funds Misuse (47:23 - 58:41)

A significant segment covers a news story about Stockton’s interim city manager, Jason Lee, under investigation for misusing $50,000 from the city's risk mitigation fund to support a Wild 'N Out event without proper authorization. The hosts express their opinions on the matter, discussing the implications for local politics and the integrity of public funds.

• Joe Budden: “This is why I don’t fuck with you, Jason Lee.” [93:03]
• Mal: “It was amazing.” [81:31]

News Highlights:

• Investigation Details: The funds were intended to prevent the cancellation of a comedy show, with concerns about economic impact.
• Hosts' Opinions: Joe criticizes Jason Lee's actions, questioning his integrity and leadership.
• Community Impact: Discussion on how such misuse of funds affects public trust and future events.

5. Listener Interactions and Advice (58:42 - 87:42)

a. Caller Widdle J.'s Family Concern (Approaching 1:40:00)

Joe introduces a heartfelt listener question from Widdle J., who seeks advice on reconnecting with a sister trapped in an unhealthy relationship with a drug addict.

• Widdle J.:

  “Has anyone been in a similar position trying to reconnect with a sibling you cut off, especially out of concern for their safety and well-being?” [148:07]

• Flip: “You can’t do it without opening those old wounds, though.” [150:07]

• Mal: “Reach out with non-judgment and love.” [159:07]

Discussion Points:

• Strategies for Reconnection: Importance of non-judgmental communication and patience.
• Emotional Challenges: Acknowledging the difficulty of reopening past relationships.
• Hosts' Personal Experiences: Sharing their own stories of family conflict and reconciliation.

6. Music Reviews (87:43 - 125:58)

a. Gunna’s New Album (117:01 - 132:30)

The hosts provide an enthusiastic review of Gunna's latest project, praising its quality, cohesiveness, and Gunna's resilience amidst label disputes.

• Parks: “Jid's album is a love it Album of the year contender.” [117:17]
• Flip: “It's a fire album.” [117:43]
• Joe Budden: “Gunna is doing something like Atlanta Kendra type.” [133:28]

b. Bryson Tiller’s New Release (120:08 - 125:48)

Bryson Tiller’s album is discussed with mixed reviews. While some appreciate his foray into rap, others feel the execution falls short of expectations.

• Parks: “I like that record.” [121:04]
• Mal: “It's a great album.” [121:30]

c. Other Artists: Alchemist, Mozzy, Juicy J (125:49 - 134:36)

The hosts cover releases from Alchemist, Mozzy, and Juicy J, highlighting standout tracks and production quality.

• Flip: “I don't always want people to step out, but when it works, it does.” [125:28]
• Parks: “The Juicy J tape is hard, bro.” [122:34]

d. Discussion on Will I Am’s Controversial Comments (54:34 - 58:41)

A heated debate arises over Will I Am's remarks comparing Black Thought to Jay Z, with Joe defending Black Thought's prowess and criticizing Will I Am's authority to make such statements.

• Joe Budden: “Black Thought is 1 trillion times better than Jay Z.” [54:55]
• Flip: “Nobody would say that.” [56:00]

7. Event Promotions and Endorsements (125:59 - 143:09)

a. Chris Brown’s MetLife Concert (27:22 - 28:10)

Joe hyped up the upcoming MetLife concert featuring Chris Brown, emphasizing his excitement and the performer’s dynamic stage presence.

• Joe Budden: “Chris Brown is great music, too, at midlife.” [27:56]

b. PrizePicks Promotion (61:13 - 63:12)

An endorsement segment for PrizePicks, a daily fantasy sports platform, detailing how listeners can participate and win.

• Joe Budden: “Prize Picks is the best place to turn your sports knowledge into real cash money.” [61:13]
• Promotion Code: “Download the app and use promo code JBP for $50 instantly when you play your first $5 lineup.” [61:36]

8. Fun and Comedy: The Dildo-Throwing Incident (63:13 - 85:00)

A comedic discussion ensues about a bizarre incident where dildos were thrown at WNBA games, allegedly as part of a marketing gimmick by a cryptocurrency group.

• Joe Budden: “They are planning more pranks.” [66:30]
• Mal: “This is a hell of a marketing scheme.” [67:51]
• Flip: “It’s going up, really think I’m joking.” [68:40]

Highlights:

• Dildo Coin: Creation of a meme coin to protest toxic environments in the crypto world.
• Public Reaction: Hosts debate the appropriateness and implications of such pranks at sporting events.
• Future Predictions: Speculation on whether this trend will continue or escalate into more significant disruptions.

9. Personal Anecdotes and Relationships (85:00 - 160:30)

The hosts engage in candid conversations about personal relationships, aging, and maintaining appearances. They humorously discuss the concept of looking "dusty" as they age, balancing self-care with social life.

• Joe Budden: “If your sister’s happy with her drug addict boyfriend, then mind your business.” [155:00]
• Flip: “Just get a hobby.” [116:45]
• Mal: “I was at a conference and met my idols.” [81:31]

Key Points:

• Aging and Self-Perception: Exploring how appearance and lifestyle choices impact relationships and self-esteem.
• Balancing Public Image: Jokes about maintaining a youthful image versus embracing maturity.
• Advice on Relationships: Encouraging supportive and non-judgmental interactions within personal circles.

10. Closing Remarks and Farewells (160:31 - End)

The episode concludes with final thoughts on upcoming music and events, along with playful jabs and goodbyes.

• Joe Budden: “Shout out to Broccoli’s new album.” [127:01]
• Parks: “We got Mozzy’s 'Intrusive Thoughts'.” [125:58]
• Closing Banter:

  Joe Budden: “Everybody stay safe this weekend. ... Until next time, I bid you adieu. Farewell. Adios.” [165:42]

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Notable Quotes:

• Joe Budden: “Black Thought is 1 trillion times better than Jay Z.” [54:55]
• Mal: “Chanel’s making money off dudes in prison.” [01:51]
• Flip: “Earth Gang was actually fire.” [18:50]
• Parks: “Their visuals were fire.” [24:49]
• Joe Budden: “Prize Picks is the best place to turn your sports knowledge into real cash money.” [61:13]
• Mal: “This is a hell of a marketing scheme.” [67:51]

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Conclusion

Episode 850 of The Joe Budden Podcast weaves through a tapestry of humor, serious discussions, and personal anecdotes. From dissecting the suspension of beloved award shows to navigating the complexities of social media privacy, and from reviewing the latest in hip-hop music to addressing heartfelt listener concerns, Joe and his friends deliver an engaging and multifaceted listen. Their blend of candid insights and playful interactions ensures that both long-time listeners and newcomers find something to enjoy and reflect upon.

For those interested in the dynamics of hip-hop culture, the impact of media changes on award shows, or simply seeking a blend of humor and honest conversation, this episode offers a comprehensive and entertaining experience.

Transcript

[Joe Budden]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. Yo, welcome. Welcome. Oh, let me ask y', all, please try to not curse for 40 seconds or some. Yes.

[Mal]

Like you just did.

[Ish]

Asking to beep it.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I got it. I got it. Please. Yo, what's going on? Look at this.

[Ish]

Well, Ish informed us that Chanel has a new shoe line with an ankle monitor attached, so.

[Joe Budden]

No, but. No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay. Because if. If he just informed us, I wouldn't be laughing so much. Okay. We was talking about topics, so he was informing us to share with the world. Yeah. Holy. Come on. 40 seconds, B. Oh, it's me.

[Mal]

Yes, you are the problem.

[Joe Budden]

Look at the flag. It believe that.

[Parks]

Yeah, I got you.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, somebody say what he's saying. Cause I'm a curse. What? He said, somebody.

[Mal]

Chanel's making money off dudes in prison. I mean, I'm trying to earn my keep over here. Dude, Chanel's making money off dudes in prison. How is. Well, they're making a shoe, you know, with the Lindsay Lohan, you know, ankle monitor. Well, you do it, and that's where we got to.

[Ish]

How do you remember that?

[Flip]

So.

[Ish]

Well, he just.

[Mal]

I don't know. I just. He did that.

[Joe Budden]

Nah, but. And then po on the side, audience was like, that's.

[Ish]

That's.

[Joe Budden]

No, but he said, it's smooth, cuz. We don't want to smoke with Is like, Yo, that was 10 years ago, yo.

[Ish]

And then Ish went to go. He went to go. Confirm it.

[Joe Budden]

Start scrolling harder like.

[Flip]

Well, this just came up on my feed two days.

[Joe Budden]

Two days ago. And they said, oh, wait, look, he's still. Look, he telling them in the car. Yo, this old y', all, he telling them. And what's that group chat he got? He tell the Simon we like them fine.

[Mal]

Monstars.

[Joe Budden]

What's the name of that little group? Chat?

[Mal]

Monstar.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, one of them gave up to me.

[Parks]

Is that a curse?

[Ish]

Yes, it is.

[Joe Budden]

You don't know. Whoa.

[Ish]

Gotta be the first two minutes.

[Joe Budden]

What's up, big dog? You don't know?

[Ish]

Did we pass two minutes once?

[Joe Budden]

What do you think?

[Ish]

It's a curse.

[Parks]

Yeah, for one person. Say it for sure.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, all right.

[Ish]

I got flag for those Words. Let's say in the first.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, first. One minute. We got rid of Chanel and Parks. Oh, man.

[Ish]

Y' all in competition for drug dealer award. Yo, you look like the plug. And you look like the one that pick up the packs. Yeah, you do.

[Flip]

I gotta be the runner.

[Parks]

Look what he takes offense to.

[Ish]

You got the run outfit. Ish. Look what he got, Sergio. Whatever you got. Whatever that's called.

[Mal]

He's the plug on the weekend.

[Ish]

Oh, I know you talking. For the little homies on the block. I know you talking.

[Mal]

No, just saying he's casual.

[Ish]

Wait, the little homies on the block.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, I'mma make a run, hold this down this weekend. All right. Call me if anything.

[Ish]

Let's go. You're right.

[Joe Budden]

Text me. You don't make this no decision. Just watch anything. Make sure I know nothing.

[Ish]

You know, let me know if Sergio come back.

[Joe Budden]

Excuse to watch the block for a second. Ish. What up? Play with us today. Pause.

[Ish]

Come on.

[Joe Budden]

Ish. Play with us today. Pause.

[Ish]

And I like that album.

[Joe Budden]

It's mad funny today. But all of this is funny. Who you ready to fry? You look like you got it on YouTube.

[Ish]

Yeah, he do. What's up?

[Joe Budden]

Why you standing like that? Like that's how niggas stood when they had it on him.

[Flip]

He definitely got a little poco on him. He might not have a blicky.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, you so stupid, bro.

[Flip]

I'm fine, dog.

[Joe Budden]

All right? I'm just checking.

[Ish]

Just checking on you.

[Flip]

No problem.

[Joe Budden]

Niggas could just walk up to the block like that. You crazy. Big male.

[Mal]

Hey.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, let me let y' all.

[Ish]

Know Joe is on bs.

[Parks]

I don't know.

[Flip]

All right, Joe.

[Joe Budden]

No, we can't curse yet, all right?

[Parks]

What is it, seven minutes?

[Joe Budden]

He said wait.

[Flip]

How many minutes?

[Joe Budden]

Just try not to curse. This is a family show.

[Ish]

Well, the real rule is you lose.

[Joe Budden]

A lot of money.

[Ish]

The real rule is you shouldn't curse the first three to five minutes in the beginning and the end.

[Joe Budden]

We're at 4. 48. Come on, let's get back to what we was talking about. Cause what we was just talking about, that was.

[Flip]

No, you just said Big Mel and me and Flip knew what that meant for you.

[Joe Budden]

What do it mean? I promise y' all don't know what it mean. And I'm not on BS today.

[Ish]

That's not true.

[Joe Budden]

That's a lie.

[Ish]

You just checked me outside about me and Mel.

[Joe Budden]

What did we do? Oh, yeah, you will get to. But do this first.

[Ish]

You called Mel name Big man. Big man.

[Joe Budden]

But y' all don't know what I'm gonna say.

[Ish]

I thought you was gonna go there.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not gonna say it. What I got in my mind is flagrant. I ain't say that, big man.

[Flip]

What up, Mel?

[Mal]

I'm chilling. What's going on? You okay?

[Parks]

You look nice today, Mel.

[Joe Budden]

Hello.

[Ish]

Hello.

[Joe Budden]

Ho. I am. Are you ready for a George Michael video?

[Mal]

Girl, do I.

[Joe Budden]

Yes. Or a baptism or.

[Flip]

That's what they put on, Mel.

[Mal]

You're right. You're right a little bit.

[Joe Budden]

Mel, what you got going on? 11?

[Mal]

You know, it's like. What is this called? Summer dress season? It's winding. It's winding down.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't try to get folded up.

[Flip]

Summer dress.

[Mal]

What do you call it?

[Joe Budden]

Summer dwindling down. Oh, you trying to go in the laundry room. Yo, head vitriol. She trying to hit that washing fold. What you doing? You don't never come to work like this, Girl, you look nice.

[Flip]

We ain't got no guests today, and.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not hyping, so.

[Mal]

Wait, I never. I don't look nice?

[Joe Budden]

Any other stuff? You don't typically come to work with this look.

[Ish]

Yeah, you doing something.

[Joe Budden]

Don't try to trick me. Someone in the same situation.

[Ish]

You be coming to work looking like. Nah, forget it.

[Joe Budden]

Damn.

[Ish]

Stop. You look like.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah, but you've been on a run with your little Internet stuff now. I remember what's going on, but you.

[Mal]

Just booted it out of you.

[Joe Budden]

Are you going through, like, a crisis?

[Mal]

No, I'm working.

[Flip]

All right, here we go.

[Ish]

What type of work? You got a photo shoot after?

[Joe Budden]

No, you outside.

[Mal]

I just got back last night from COVID All right.

[Flip]

You outside.

[Joe Budden]

One of my cousins subscribe. There you go. Wait, I can't say that. No, you keep it up, little missy.

[Mal]

Three to five minutes.

[Ish]

Literally five minutes back.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, I don't know what's going on. Cause you my girl, but don't fuck with me. My cousins, they know.

[Mal]

Leave me alone.

[Joe Budden]

They telling me, leave me alone. All right, forget it.

[Mal]

Leave me alone.

[Ish]

Wonder Woman, Bangle.

[Mal]

Anywho.

[Ish]

Okay, man. You don't want your headphones or you might mess up yourself.

[Joe Budden]

Audience thank God Flip is here with us today. Flip almost died this week.

[Parks]

What happened to Flip?

[Mal]

You want to tell us the story?

[Joe Budden]

Go ahead.

[Mal]

Or we can wait.

[Joe Budden]

Flip almost wasn't here with us, y'. All.

[Ish]

Are you crazy? That's not what happened. You talking about fire died or you talking about.

[Joe Budden]

No, like you.

[Ish]

Oh, yo, when I left here, you know, I hopped on my spaces, and.

[Parks]

You hopped on my space.

[Ish]

No, my spaces.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Ish]

Yeah, my. Flip the network Spaces.

[Joe Budden]

I wanna. I don't even want you. I wanna. I wanna go. I wanna go. Let me do it. Let me tell him.

[Ish]

Yeah, but say it right, though.

[Joe Budden]

Y' all know how hard we worked the other day, right? We did.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

Yes. That was the hardest I work.

[Flip]

That was crazy.

[Joe Budden]

I tried to not work that hard.

[Flip]

You tried to get us out of that last one.

[Mal]

He did.

[Flip]

You did.

[Mal]

He did.

[Joe Budden]

That was a crazy day of work, but the gig is a gig. Got it done. I'll suffer the consequences later or reap the rewards.

[Mal]

All the guests were great, though. That was what made it.

[Joe Budden]

But that was a long day. That doesn't typically happen 11 to 11. But damn, man, when I left, I'm like, man, the fans are really gonna enjoy these as they pop up. So I got in bed, I called my girl. Oh, man. Baby. Long day today. Tired. Oh, my God. This guest is yada, yada, yada. By the time I got three minutes into the story, the JBP community said, breaking news. The podcast had Hates Hood, Teyana, Taylor, Jid, and Offset.

[Flip]

Nah, you ain't do that, dog.

[Joe Budden]

What?

[Ish]

I did.

[Joe Budden]

Why? 10 minutes later? 20.

[Ish]

20.

[Joe Budden]

20 minutes later, I had to get the crust out my eyes. Look again. I thought it was AI.

[Ish]

Then it said.

[Joe Budden]

And then it was a real. Let's just say breaking news. They started adding people all this duck I hate. So I sent it to Flip Flip and said, you think this was wise? Are you crazy?

[Ish]

Honestly?

[Joe Budden]

That was the difference. The next text said, honestly, I didn't see it.

[Ish]

Cause I was on spaces still.

[Joe Budden]

So thank God he's here.

[Ish]

Then he called me. Listen, yo, it's a simple mistake. I don't cloud Chase. Simple mistake. I was hopped on spaces leaving the building. T came downstairs and was talking to me. Yo, hey, hold on.

[Joe Budden]

Boom.

[Ish]

Had the conversation outside. And then I was just excited, like, yo, Tay, we had a long day. Da, da, da. I thought I was talking to my peoples only, but I was out of line of what would happen again.

[Joe Budden]

Don't say shit like that. No, you did.

[Ish]

But that's what I did.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, your people.

[Flip]

Why would you do that?

[Ish]

But what I'm saying is that you know me.

[Joe Budden]

I try to know the funniest part about it.

[Ish]

I don't want to sound crazy.

[Joe Budden]

I beat in Flip Spaces in the A noms.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Just recently, me and my girl heard him say, yeah, y', all, man, I got some amazing stuff planned for this camping trip, but I'm not Gonna share it right this second. I'm not gonna share it right this second for y'. All. I'm keeping it. I'm gonna keep it a. Wait.

[Ish]

Why?

[Joe Budden]

I'm smack the shit out of Flip.

[Ish]

Yeah, it was, but now you right. You got me. You checked me. I got checked, but I, you know. You know, so crazy. Wait, hold on. Even if I was wrong, I felt the way how this nigga checked me. Something is wrong with me. I'm like, why this nigga calling me like that? Who you think you are? You know I'm not no nigga that's gonna chase. A lot of times I try to keep it separate. So you should know it had to be a honest mistake. It wasn't like, yo, hey, it was just a mistake. It flowed into that. And I was excited. Like, yo, the nigga working hard. I just met some nigga, the J. I, D, N. That's what I'm saying. Cause they heard Teon in the background, and I muted it. So that's what. That's. It just happened like that.

[Joe Budden]

But next time, see in my 30s, honest mistake. Hey, man, go ahead. It's peace. Yeah. 40s, 45 and up.

[Ish]

You right. You got it.

[Joe Budden]

Getting to the end of the road. Honest mistake, nigga.

[Ish]

So say that song.

[Joe Budden]

What's that mean?

[Ish]

I'm gonna do better. I'm gonna do better. Don't call my phone like that.

[Flip]

Stop looking.

[Joe Budden]

Prepare better so we not making honest. Honest.

[Ish]

You know what I'm saying to me. Say that to me.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God. Pardon me. Anyway, we got a great show lined up for y' all today. Yes, sir. What's up? How y' all feeling? Y' all feeling good? Good.

[Flip]

Feeling great.

[Joe Budden]

All right. Good man. Good, good, good, good, good, good, good. Okay.

[Flip]

Let'S go.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Flip]

1989.

[Joe Budden]

All right.

[Parks]

Stop what you're doing, cuz I'm about.

[Joe Budden]

To ruin I look funny, but yo, I'm making money See you got in your sh. Introduce myself Shout out to the whole Bay Area what up, what up, what up? Your crackers and your licorice it never.

[Parks]

Stopped me from getting busy I'm a freak I like the girls with the.

[Joe Budden]

Boom Whole Jersey, whole New York City what up, what up, what up Though.

[Ish]

I'm crazy, allow me to amaze thee.

[Parks]

They say I'm ugly but it just.

[Ish]

Don'T faze me I'm still getting in.

[Joe Budden]

The girls pants and I even got.

[Ish]

My own dance hey, winner.

[Joe Budden]

Mel, don't be looking at my computer, neither. I see you. You're looking at Your computer.

[Ish]

She's saying that it's.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, you are.

[Ish]

No, she not. She said that this sounds crazy without the headphones.

[Joe Budden]

She trying to look cute so she.

[Ish]

Don'T want to wear headphones.

[Joe Budden]

Uh, Mel, why you not wearing your headphones today?

[Ish]

First time.

[Mal]

It's not the first time. I usually take them off during patreon.

[Joe Budden]

But why you not wearing your headphones today, though?

[Ish]

You look nice. Golden ring ye.

[Joe Budden]

All the parents out there, all the.

[Ish]

Kids out there.

[Mal]

Feel so good to.

[Joe Budden]

Be together.

[Ish]

Spending some time. Hey, everybody in the park right now.

[Joe Budden]

Everybody on vacation right now. First and last time list is all the sub groups out there. You.

[Ish]

Open that. You feeling to what you want?

[Joe Budden]

What you feeling? I am feeling to.

[Mal]

Never stop. Never giving up.

[Joe Budden]

All right, man. Yeah. I mean, it's the weekend. Shout out to everybody in the airport right now. Everybody traveling. Hey, wait a minute, wait a minute. Hey, everybody cooking out right now. All right, hold up, man. Hold up, man. Let's get it together. Let's get this together right quick. So happy to be here with everyone. Oh, man. God is good. All the time. And all the time. God damn right.

[Ish]

Flip.

[Joe Budden]

And Mel, Mel, Mel. Shout to our brother, Dark Lamont, here with us in spirit. Hold your head. That text you sent, I mean, we hope you're doing well. Our prayers are with you and your family always. What episode is this?

[Parks]

850.

[Joe Budden]

Welcome to episode 850. 8 hundreds. I thought about this the other day. I love the eight hundreds a lot better than seven hundred. You?

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Having a blast in the eighties was fun. Yeah. Welcome to eight hundred and fifty of the Joe Button podcast. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, highly favored host, Joe Button, here with some really amazing people to my right. You see her, man? Stop playing. She need no introduction. Right, that's it.

[Ish]

Gold finger in the building. Let's go, man. Sorry.

[Mal]

Hey. Hey, what's popping?

[Joe Budden]

You really not gonna wear headphones for real?

[Mal]

No.

[Ish]

She tried to look.

[Flip]

Oh, no. Gotta play.

[Ish]

Eyebrows looking like something she speaks to people through, like the seat.

[Flip]

Mel has a play after this for sure. For sure.

[Parks]

She may literally be going to a play. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

All right, all right. We love that for Mel next to her. Queens flick. Queens get the money in the building.

[Ish]

Happy to be here.

[Joe Budden]

Next to him, Ish is here. King Wawa himself. Next to him, Big freeze. Ice is in the building. Parks is in the building. Poe is here. Corey is here. Erickson is here. Savon and Tanner here by remote. Last but certainly, certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are Here. Welcome to the new listeners. Shout out to all the women out there. This episode is brought to you by Fueled by Powered by Prize Picks. Prize picks, gang. What's up? How's everybody doing, man?

[Flip]

What's poppin? What's good?

[Joe Budden]

What's poppin? What's poppin, though?

[Parks]

Feeling great.

[Flip]

It's the weekend.

[Parks]

Me and Ice were out being birds last night. Hey, Namani.

[Joe Budden]

Let me know.

[Flip]

That's right.

[Joe Budden]

Well, I mean, he be a. Well, he'd just be a bird. Shout out to E. What y' all did?

[Parks]

We went to the clip show. We went to the clip show at T5 and then. Which was great, by the way. We'll get into the concert review. And then we went to the after spot for a couple drinks. Go home after. That was the plan. But then we found out that they're doing a little.

[Joe Budden]

Get out of here. Y' all don't normally strike me as the Afties crew.

[Parks]

I know, right?

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

No. All right.

[Parks]

And then they said the Clips are doing a secret special event at another.

[Flip]

Spot, so we went there.

[Joe Budden]

Meat packing. All right. Paul, wait. Hey, hey. It's all right if you end up.

[Parks]

In the meatpacking district. To those that don't know.

[Joe Budden]

If you're in the meat packing.

[Parks]

Yeah, but the clip show was fire.

[Joe Budden]

You gotta hit that little gas station right there, get some condoms. Back in the day.

[Ish]

That little gas station, it ain't but 9th and 10th.

[Parks]

He's got what, one?

[Joe Budden]

14.

[Parks]

He says what?

[Joe Budden]

Catch up, 14. I'm not talking about y'.

[Flip]

All.

[Joe Budden]

I'm talking about back in the day when Lotus and all that was rocking. It ain't but three gas stations in New York, so that flew 14th in the West Side highway on the late night, four in the morning. Back when wore condoms. That was clutch. You might die, but what choice you got? All right, back to y'. All.

[Parks]

Yeah, so we went and saw the clip show. It was. It was great. It was short and sweet. It was very punctual. Ice was there for Earth Gang that opened up. He said, they're great. I'm mad I missed it.

[Flip]

Earth Gang was actually. Was fire. I wasn't familiar. They rocked. The crowd had me wanting to get myself more familiar with their music.

[Parks]

You should. You should.

[Flip]

I am.

[Parks]

You'll like it. You'll like it. They're fire.

[Flip]

They were absolutely fire.

[Parks]

Very surprised the Clips came out. They did most of the album, and they did, you know, their slaps outside of that.

[Flip]

But they did 10 out of the 14 songs on the new album. And Then sprinkled in some clips, hits. It was dope to me. Excuse me, because no Pusha T Solo Records, they strictly kept it a clip show, which I thought was dope, you know, I mean, I'm not taking the spotlight off of us as a group. You getting all clips and the fans in there, where they packed that place out.

[Parks]

That was packed.

[Flip]

Three levels. It was packed. You couldn't move through there.

[Parks]

We couldn't get out for like 40 minutes maybe or something like that. Yeah, just the line getting out. It was crazy, crazy pandemonium. I would have liked this show to be a little bit longer, but I'm also not mad at being short and concise. If we hadn't been birds, it would have been nice to been home, you know, a nice. A nice time on a Thursday.

[Mal]

But how long was the secret performance that in me packing?

[Flip]

Was it about five, six records?

[Parks]

Something like that.

[Mal]

Okay, yeah, nice.

[Parks]

Also packed up there also.

[Flip]

Yeah, jam packed again. I'm shocked that they had it there. That's why.

[Parks]

Yeah, yeah.

[Flip]

Because that crowd ain't typically the.

[Parks]

Oh, they do some hip hop up there. They do from time to time. I've been to a bunch of.

[Joe Budden]

Oh no, they do and they do. They do. They do. The summertime concert series, the pop ups.

[Flip]

You never know who's coming.

[Joe Budden]

And it'd be a lot of rappers, hip hop, DJs. They do that up there? Yeah, they do up there.

[Flip]

It's fine.

[Parks]

It was a great time though.

[Joe Budden]

That was one of the best concert reviews I've ever heard. No, seriously. Can't help it.

[Flip]

Can't help it.

[Joe Budden]

Honestly, I thought you were gonna go. Y' all don't agree.

[Mal]

When did you go?

[Joe Budden]

I was gonna go. I was gonna go, but in preparation for the work day, the next day. People in my life aren't punctual. So somebody was supposed to meet me at 6:30, which turned into 7:45. And then I had to meet with them.

[Flip]

What? Yo, that's your.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

What is that?

[Flip]

Frying chicken?

[Ish]

Are you dumb? Call me chicken.

[Flip]

Frying.

[Ish]

Call me my name. Are you dumb? It wasn't. That wasn't intentional the way you was talking. It did that, bro.

[Joe Budden]

This is a good question. It is a good.

[Flip]

It's fitting. It's fitting.

[Joe Budden]

Anyway, after that I ran. I ran like I ran late so I wouldn't have made it then. I wasn't in the mood. And then I looked at their stories and saw what was happening and was thanking God screen earth that I didn't make it.

[Parks]

T5 is a. Is a bad layout for a concert that's that packed.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Even with the little VIP balcony, it didn't matter if I.

[Joe Budden]

If I come to a show. I realize if I'm coming to a show, I need to damn near be on your rider.

[Parks]

I would like to see it. Yeah, it's the thing.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Like, even though, like most places have the projector shit, like we had tv, like metals and shit.

[Joe Budden]

Like, this was a little bullshit.

[Parks]

Was a 26 inch Z.

[Joe Budden]

If I come out this show, I want the ability to walk backstage and grab a little. Some Minute Maid or some shit. I don't want to just be out here with niggas facts. Like, at some point when it's time for a break, I want to be able to go in one of these other rooms. And for the most part, it'd be like that.

[Flip]

They couldn't get out for 40 minutes.

[Parks]

I might be exaggerating, but it was a long time.

[Flip]

22 minutes. He would have been in that, pulling his hair out.

[Joe Budden]

I wouldn't have been in that moment. I wouldn't have that. Wouldn't have. You would have did some ignorance in and out, but.

[Parks]

Well, we tried to be on some James Bond shit and get out, but then someone was pussy and didn't. I'll refrain from who.

[Joe Budden]

They fucked it up.

[Parks]

They fucked it up.

[Joe Budden]

You two are here. The only other name that's been.

[Parks]

Listen, there's other people around.

[Flip]

We had a great time at the show.

[Joe Budden]

Shout out to the clips. Who else was there? Y' all see anybody on? Give me the feeling in the room. Give me the vibe. What type of girls? Yeah, come on, give us. Give me something.

[Flip]

We saw Var.

[Parks]

You saw your man Miro.

[Joe Budden]

He didn't really like that big marrow.

[Parks]

He didn't like that whole Bunny. You was talking.

[Joe Budden]

What do you say?

[Parks]

He said, no, I got my back. I don't know. It was loud in there. I couldn't hear all the. He was talking, but he made it a point. I've never spoken to Mirror in my life. He made it a point to pull me aside and said I was laughing with y' all until y' all started saying that and then he didn't like that.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know what party was mad at. He could have. You could have texted me and told me.

[Flip]

Well, that. That's what he kept telling me. He was like, yo, ain't no. Why is it? Ain't no beef. I don't have no beef with Joe.

[Joe Budden]

Meryl know I love him.

[Flip]

He was like, we Got each other numbers. Like, I ain't got no beef.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, but then make it sound like that.

[Flip]

And he was like.

[Joe Budden]

I was like, make it sound like that. It ain't no beef. That's my man. But any of my mans that sit on these cameras make it sound like what it is.

[Flip]

And he was like, when it's time.

[Joe Budden]

To big Joe up, I don't want to hear nothing about Joe got punched in the face in 09.

[Flip]

Like, that ain't my type of bigger.

[Joe Budden]

I don't like that.

[Ish]

I don't like that either.

[Joe Budden]

And also, you should be able to fact check your homie. You have not done this independently. That ain't no beef to what you know you wanted them niggas. And I love Merrill Merrow gave me the hat hookup when Carmelo was playing, like, yeah, so shout out to Merrill.

[Flip]

But he said he was like, yo, I was bigging Joe up.

[Joe Budden]

Nah, it need to sound like that. It need to sound like that. It didn't sound like that to everyone. That's all I'm saying. Make it sound like a big up to all ears listening. It should be. No confusion is all I'm saying. Don't trick me with none of that shit. I'm bigging him up. But he got punched in the face in 09, and I did the same shit he did back in the day. Like, nigga whack. That's like the Tyler Perry big up that I asked Kev on stage about. Hey, how do you feel about Tyler Perry's saying, yeah, what Ryan Ryan is doing is great. I taught him everything he knows, and I did that 30 years ago. Wait, that ain't the time right now for that.

[Parks]

I will say their visuals, too, at the show were fire. They had, like, oh, man, big projectors with just random 90s, yo.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah. This review's heating up now.

[Flip]

Birds don't sing live while Push is rapping the verse. It's just nothing but pictures of their mom on the screen.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Flip]

And then when they flip, now it's pictures of pops and then them. Like, you think you're ready. That one hit you. Even if you have your parents still it hit you.

[Joe Budden]

So it hit you.

[Flip]

It hit everybody in there.

[Ish]

Yeah, but did it hit you?

[Flip]

But it hit everybody in there, though. I'm just. But it hit everybody, though.

[Joe Budden]

Why is it so difficult for the save that it hit me?

[Flip]

No, it hit everybody.

[Joe Budden]

Why you can't say that?

[Flip]

Y' all notice that I said it hit everybody?

[Joe Budden]

Not one point. Did he say it hit Me, I.

[Flip]

Said it hit everybody.

[Ish]

It did hit everybody. But what about you? How did it make you.

[Joe Budden]

How did it hit you, though?

[Parks]

Sad.

[Joe Budden]

Cuz you tweet.

[Parks]

It's okay to say you were sad.

[Flip]

So the song makes you sad like it make you sad. But seeing that, that way, it's like.

[Joe Budden]

Damn, it was a great show.

[Mal]

Did they perform just this album or.

[Parks]

They did. They did the hits. They got damn and grinding and Mr. Me Too.

[Flip]

I'm bring my glasses. I'm gonna start leaving my glasses.

[Joe Budden]

Stop talking over. Mel.

[Mal]

Mel, I just asked. I just asked a question.

[Ish]

That's tight now.

[Mal]

Look, I know. I wait.

[Joe Budden]

I want to hear.

[Mal]

And it was being answered until you got started.

[Joe Budden]

See?

[Mal]

Go ahead.

[Flip]

No, they did 10 out of 14 songs on the new album.

[Joe Budden]

And he said, yo, thank you all for y' all review. Y, yo, yo, make some noise.

[Ish]

Yo, have a good time.

[Parks]

We had a blast.

[Flip]

We had a blast. We had a blast.

[Ish]

Weekends at Bernie's, we had a blast.

[Flip]

I'm sorry. I'm coming here jumping around and yelling like so. I don't do that.

[Joe Budden]

Please.

[Flip]

Everybody's their own. No, you took it that way, that's on you. But I wasn't shooting, okay? I don't shoot. I don't even bring my gun. My gun in the car.

[Joe Budden]

I love you, yo. Well, thank you, guys. What's up, man?

[Flip]

Good day, sir.

[Joe Budden]

What's up with you? How are you? I couldn't be better. I couldn't be better.

[Flip]

Glad for the weekend. Cool.

[Joe Budden]

I don't have too many weekend plans. I'm getting ready for the family reunion next week.

[Parks]

Lay low.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Where is it?

[Joe Budden]

Oh, and that Chris Brown.

[Parks]

What's that?

[Joe Budden]

Next week, Chris Brown. Chris Breezy on Wednesday. MetLife. Let's go. Happy belated, Munchie. Happy birthday, Munchie. Big Munch. Yeah. We going to MetLife.

[Flip]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Budden]

Yep. And I like walking backstage at those because he be having all the dances. That little ball head, little thick dancer that's on the cup. They off. Met Life in there. In there like swimwear. My baby coming. Let's go, babe.

[Flip]

He got a nice three or four of them.

[Joe Budden]

I'm excited about the Chris Brown. His great music, too, at midlife.

[Ish]

I know is. You want to go.

[Joe Budden]

You in there to the show? Yeah.

[Flip]

No, I don't really.

[Ish]

Yeah, it's your family.

[Joe Budden]

Avoid his cousin at all costs.

[Ish]

Boy, we want to introduce you to your cousin.

[Flip]

We want to introduce you to.

[Joe Budden]

I want you. Yo.

[Ish]

At least get a nigga a hug. That's your family. You too proud, nigga. Ain't too proud to be.

[Flip]

What does pride have to do with not going to a show?

[Ish]

Cause you don't want to go backstage and meet your family.

[Flip]

I went to Chris Brown's show last year.

[Ish]

Did you go backstage?

[Flip]

No.

[Joe Budden]

This guy is crazy.

[Flip]

What's wrong with your man?

[Joe Budden]

We saying we could bring you backstage.

[Flip]

I'm cool.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, shit. All right, all right.

[Parks]

Are you using the uncle side?

[Ish]

Nah, that's a different style.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yo, you stupid. Okay, so where would y' all like to begin today? What is of most importance up there? A lot of new music came out. We'll get to it. It did. New Gunner, new jid, new everybody. It's mad new music. We'll get all of it at some point, I'm sure. But we can start with BET suspending the Soul Train Awards and the BET Hip Hop Awards.

[Flip]

They gave a reason.

[Mal]

Well, I got an article from USA Today. BET has reportedly suspended Soul Train and Hip Hop Awards. And they said so for bet. Linear. We have suspended seat, Soul Train and Hip Hop Awards. Says the CEO, According to the outlet. He says we have a team that's actively thinking about where these award shows might best live as the media climate continues to evolve. They aren't gone, but I don't know.

[Flip]

All that sound like is we not spending money putting this shit on TV no more profitable no more. Yeah, we losing money. So we're gonna find a streaming app, we do it on our stream, on our BET plus app or something like that. And still gotta put the people in the seats and all that other shit to make the award show happen or.

[Joe Budden]

Loses its left there.

[Parks]

Yeah, well, that one, the COVID one, was fired that didn't have no. Nobody in no seats. I don't think they will go that route again. But.

[Flip]

But it was Covid.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Flip]

You know what I'm saying? So it was justifiable because it was.

[Ish]

Covet, and you were able to retain viewer viewership because everybody was home.

[Joe Budden]

That's true.

[Parks]

That's true.

[Ish]

So that's why, you know, it was.

[Flip]

Good during COVID man, once niggas stopped rapping and freestyling. For real. Because the Cypress was a big part of BET Hip Hop Awards. So now if we don't got the Cyprus, we don't really care about the awards. That's. And that's where your viewership dropped at.

[Parks]

I think that's valid.

[Flip]

But they stopped the Soul Train Awards too. So it wasn't a rap cycle. I'm just saying, for the Hip Hop Song no, I'm just saying. I just think that this ain't profitable no more, and they might not be able to get all the sponsorship and all of that.

[Mal]

DEI is a direct result of that. Yeah.

[Flip]

All that ties into viewership. Just what attracted you to the Hip Hop Awards was that. And there could have been something that was attracting folk to the Soul Train Awards. Either way, people are not watching.

[Parks]

I mean, you could tell the rain's been on the wall just by the way that they've been advertising for the past however many years, with every single segment being a Doritos or Dove or whatever that shows that the show itself was not particularly profitable.

[Flip]

Yeah. Let me ask you.

[Ish]

Doritos and Dub.

[Parks]

Yes. They had like, every. Everything was presented by. Every award was presented by an advertiser. You don't really see that at award shows, particularly, and certainly not even them historically until the last couple years. So that says in itself that this maybe isn't the most profitable thing in the world.

[Flip]

Let me. Let me ask you. Do you think that because the Soul Train Awards, BET Awards, again, they're geared toward us. Right. So is it a possibility or tie in because they can't get the premium A1X to come to the awards, period, as opposed to going to the Grammys? Like if Beyonce coming to the Grammys or if Meg is coming to the Grammys and Lady Gaga coming to the Grammys, they market that.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Flip]

So because you not necessarily gonna have that. Those people sitting in the front rows, they can't get the bread, you know what I mean? From the sponsors, from the majors, to even carry on an award show.

[Parks]

Yeah, that's probably part of it.

[Flip]

Do people get paid for these performances?

[Mal]

No.

[Parks]

I don't know.

[Flip]

No.

[Mal]

No, they don't.

[Flip]

I was just wondering, because I'm like, that. That could also tie in. But if that's. I think it play a part.

[Joe Budden]

What?

[Flip]

Because they can't get Beyonce, they can't get.

[Joe Budden]

I think all of it plays a part.

[Flip]

You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Budden]

Like, every. Everything being said, everything that y' all are saying plays a part in it. Right? This is new ownership.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Oh, yeah. Very important.

[Joe Budden]

This is Viacom. And it's a different game now. It's not Bob Lee. So new ownership gonna come in and do what new ownership does, which is remove the people that care. Yeah. And that part has been evident since they took Preem off the ciphers ages ago. Yeah, Nobody that cares would have did that. Would take Preen off the cyphers. But.

[Flip]

But real quick, with that again, I think it was Yachty or somebody on the radio when he was asking about a preemie. The newer rappers ain't rocking with that.

[Joe Budden]

I absolutely hate when you do that, fam.

[Flip]

If the Cyphers, we talking about just the Cyphers and they not really rapping like that at the Cyphers, you're not getting a rap. Like, they tried the father and son thing a couple years ago. It ain't enough that they could market that people really care about to put in the Cypress with the.

[Joe Budden]

The, the.

[Flip]

The. The popular.

[Joe Budden]

The.

[Flip]

The hot rappers at the moment. All right, so I'm just talking about.

[Joe Budden]

The fabric of a hip hop award show.

[Flip]

No, I'm with you. I'm just.

[Joe Budden]

It wasn't a Preem beat. It was.

[Flip]

Yeah, it was just.

[Joe Budden]

It's just a break beat.

[Flip]

Yeah, they can't rap over break beats, though. I'm only talking about Preem standing there.

[Joe Budden]

Go ahead, Joel. I'm talking.

[Parks]

And I will say that there are plenty of people that can rap. They just, for whatever reason, have stopped making that look away. It's probably partially because Pre not being there.

[Joe Budden]

Well, Preem not being there says we losing money. We don't got the money. We don't have the money to pay him. But then they did that shit where now, to ISIS point, they start putting these new on the Internet. They start splitting it up. Hey, we're gonna have some of y' all on TV and we're gonna have some of y' all on TV. YouTube. That lets you know that this wasn't going well. Fat Joe host in the last nine years in a row let you know that this wasn't. There were signs all over the place that this wasn't going well. I don't know about them saying. Them saying, we're taking this off bet linear. So where are you putting this? That says to me that if it come back. You putting this on app?

[Flip]

Yep.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

So you don't trust us for television because you can't make money off it, but you trust us for the app where you make money off.

[Flip]

Yeah, but we. We don't have to spend as much money to put a product app only versus spending all the money to make it TV ready and all of that.

[Joe Budden]

None of the people that were coming to the award show care about the business of an award show. We coming because this music, it's awards. We're musicians. You're highlighting us. It's visibility. Maybe this will help with our album. Nobody cares about the business side. So.

[Flip]

Except for the New business. Except for the new owners that bought this business.

[Joe Budden]

I know. So those people need to go hire some people, some advisors, some consultants, and some people that actually know how to turn around their failing ideologies and get it done. That has nothing to do with me. Us, the rappers, the singers, the labels. It don't. That's on them.

[Ish]

What if. What if in order to turn it around, you have to spend more money? But what if spending more money, you. You'll be going.

[Joe Budden]

In order to turn it around. In order to turn it around, you got to cut the record labels in. Yeah, in order to turn it around, you got to cut the record labels in. The Grammys ain't going nowhere whether it's a dollar or not.

[Mal]

That's true.

[Joe Budden]

So if you're not willing to do some of these things, Viacom or whoever is in charge over there, then what are we talking about? We coming from the love and the creative side, so.

[Mal]

But I also think that if they're not on that.

[Joe Budden]

Go ahead.

[Mal]

I was gonna say, I think that another factor here is the consideration of the prestigiousness of the award. Like, the perception. Like, I'm thinking Soul Train. I'm like, I cannot remember the last time I was invested in watching a Soul Train music awards show, honestly. And it's just.

[Joe Budden]

Well, that's you. They've been good.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

No, I mean, they have been good.

[Flip]

Siege of winning a Soul Train award winning.

[Mal]

But you said the Grammys. The Grammys is never going to lose. The lesser. It's seen as, like the top of the food chain in terms of awards to be, you know, won when you are a musician. But when you think about a Soul Train music Award, like, what's.

[Joe Budden]

It's.

[Mal]

It's lost its lust.

[Flip]

Whose fault is that, though?

[Mal]

A myriad of different factors. I think that this is just the arrival point.

[Ish]

I think it's the artist fault. I think the artist don't value it. Don't value it.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Flip]

I remember Michael Jackson at the American Music Awards with the trophy stacked up. Him and Webster. People thought that shit was something. Niggas value those awards. Those awards, to Mel's point, don't carry the same Nigga. I got 20American Music Awards. They be like, so how many grammars you got?

[Joe Budden]

All right, if the value on your house just start depreciating, then that's your. Whose job is it to fix your house?

[Ish]

You gotta fix it. You gotta find a way to fix it and bring the value.

[Joe Budden]

It's nobody's job but theirs to fix this. And it's not just happening here. Right. I thought about this the other day. More conversation is flowing around. Is it important to win a NBA title or not? You hear more and more players saying today, more than I've ever heard saying, I'm choosing the money. I'm choosing the money. I'm choosing the money. I'm choosing the money. You hear more players that didn't win a ring regarded by the up and coming generation as dumb dudes. Whether you got a ring or not, the perception is changing on that. The playoffs and the finals and all of them. The TV schedule is so different than it was for us growing up. Facts like, it's nuts. So if the NBA is putting more emphasis on ad dollars and where we can put this, and rightfully so, maybe they should. Yeah. What comes with that is we're not gonna view that thing you wanted us to view, which is the trophy. The same as before. Like, don't you be concerned about the money and then trick us to not to not being concerned about it.

[Ish]

And.

[Flip]

And that's what a lot of Jay Z says. I don't know the line. I'm trying to remember the line, but he be like, yo, we don't give a fuck about your awards like your Grammys. Y' all tricked us, making us think that this was the pinnacle while y' all robbing us below. Like, yo, but you got six Grammys. You might be broke, but you got some Grammys. You know what I'm saying? It don't have the same oomph to your NBA point. Your NBA point is great. When n cared about championships, the money wasn't the same. Now you like, yo, dawg, you want a ring and you make 3 mil?

[Joe Budden]

Cool.

[Flip]

A ring or 50 mil? Fuck that ring. Give me my 50 mil. It's a different. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Budden]

It was still their job as the people who contrived this layout to lead to a trophy.

[Flip]

True.

[Joe Budden]

It's those people's jobs to bring more money to the sport, but.

[Flip]

And when you bring it now, the players could care but about the trouble.

[Ish]

But I have an issue with that, though. I feel like it's devaluing the premise of the game. I don't like when I hear players that haven't won trophies or haven't won the NBA title saying that and just making it about money. It's sending a bad message.

[Mal]

The incentive has changed.

[Ish]

Yeah, like, I don't want to play.

[Mal]

The incentive and be good has changed.

[Ish]

I think that, like. And it's players that I Remember being young, how important the NBA championship was? I mean, I remember when Joe came up here and said that, yo, they're not even put in the NBA Finals or championship on the floor. And I feel like some of the players also are sending a bad message, so I think that they need to get back to either finding hungry players. There's no disrespect to some of these niggas. I don't know. I don't really watch sports, but a lot of it sound crazy coming from the vets that didn't win any championships. It shouldn't be that.

[Flip]

You know what happened.

[Joe Budden]

And honestly. Oh, go ahead, go ahead.

[Flip]

You know what happened. And it ain't just sports. It's music. It's everything. People, like years ago went in with the intention of being the best.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Now I don't really care about being the best. I want to win them. I want to make this money and change my lineage and. And pivot off into other things like now. So what if we not the best? I want to be the richest.

[Mal]

Yeah. The incentive has changed. So when it's like, when you're worried about your own contract, you're only worried about yourself. It's like, it's less team, more individual. So there's less emphasis on just on winning as a collective and. No, I got the max contract. I won.

[Joe Budden]

Let's bring it back to music and the awards.

[Mal]

But going back to music and the awards, Grammys and also Grammys, has stayed under the control of the same entity. You know what I'm saying? Whereas BET Awards and Hip Hop Awards and the Soul Train Awards, that has shifted hands, you know, in terms of who has held onto it. So in terms of, like, intentions of the awards being created when they were and now who has it, they don't have the same intention.

[Joe Budden]

Well, the Grammys are music people doing music awards. Yeah, that part. Like, let's have the people that make.

[Flip]

The steakhouse make the steak. Let's have the steak and judge the steak.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Mal]

But BET was.

[Joe Budden]

The Grammys know how to do Music network. What'd you say?

[Mal]

BET's considered a music network. Is it not?

[Joe Budden]

So.

[Parks]

Well, not for the past 30 years.

[Mal]

So that might play a role in all of this, is that they have shifted intention, they've shifted directive, they've shifted away from. And therefore it diluted the product. You know, I got it.

[Joe Budden]

That makes sense. Yeah.

[Parks]

It will make for one less fun night on Twitter a year. That's. Or two less fun nights on Twitter a year.

[Joe Budden]

Hopefully they fix it yeah, hopefully they fix it. Agreed. I mean, for it to get fixed, maybe something a larger picture needs to be addressed. I don't even know if the music business breeds enough successful musicians for award shows to have the same oomph that they have. Right. Unless you. The Grammys now have a whole block dedicated to the new act. Yeah, they're taking the best of the best. They looking at all of them and they're taking the five, six or seven. They increased it this year and they increased the performance time on them. Homeboy with the blue baby blue suit. I forgot his name. But the Freddie Mercury. Yeah, the Freddie Mercury looking do that whole block.

[Parks]

It was maybe the highlight of the show.

[Joe Budden]

It was the best part of the show part. You kind of have to, to, to, to. To keep it. You have to give it.

[Flip]

You have to.

[Joe Budden]

You have to pour into these new acts.

[Parks]

That's a fact.

[Joe Budden]

If all of the big acts. It ain't but nine of y'. All. It ain't but nine big acts. If we including the white people, the island side of Def Jam 2, then it's. It's 19 big acts.

[Flip]

I was gonna say that too. Other than that, the Grammys encompasses all the demos. The Grammys encompasses white country, rock, jazz, jazz, all this.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

But rap at one point. See, and that's some new shit today too. Where it's today's view of rap, which the landscape is the landscape. Rap has typically had enough superstars to go in any room of superstars.

[Flip]

No, I was talking about the Grammys is gonna stay poppin because all of the genres have.

[Joe Budden]

But we don't need Chappelle Roan to stay popping is what I'm saying.

[Flip]

But then what we don't.

[Joe Budden]

We don't need Taylor Swift.

[Flip]

But what happens is, and this is traditionally, once the white man allows you at his table, which is the Grammys, you say fuck the black people table, which traditionally was the Soul Train Awards. And now that we are being exposed, accepted in hip hop to the Grammys, where they. They didn't fuck with us before, now we. Now that we getting a chance to go to the Grammy table, we we saying fuck all the black outlets. It's like once the white Leno and them allow you to come on, they show you not gonna come to the Joe Button podcast. Possibly because I feel like I've extended past that.

[Joe Budden]

Grave mistake.

[Flip]

I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just saying. But that could be taken the same way.

[Joe Budden]

Grave mistake when that happens, you know what I'm saying? You.

[Flip]

We Talk about that all the time. How some of these bigger acts don't go sit with the hip hop acts or the black outlets.

[Joe Budden]

Same for sure. Good luck. That's what I got for you. For real. I was. I was barely watching them. I wasn't going. Like, I ain't gonna sit here in front. Like, I've been glued to the tv. They lost my viewership.

[Flip]

And that's. And that's. They. That's their real problem right there. There's a bunch of that.

[Joe Budden]

Fix it. Yeah, fix it. Yeah. Y' all ain't gonna call you the host. Your host. They should have.

[Flip]

I'm asking.

[Joe Budden]

They should ask. That's a. We passed that now.

[Parks]

And they should have hired someone to pass that now. There are dope. There's the Jids of the world that maybe would stay away from that, because I think he mentioned not being recognized up here. Was that him recently?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Like, these are the people that you should be platforming.

[Flip]

That's true.

[Parks]

Like, he has a fan base.

[Flip]

That's true.

[Parks]

He's not nobody.

[Joe Budden]

But to your point, Kai, not knowing Wale was a microcosm of what's going on out there. Right? Put music people with music stuff.

[Parks]

That part.

[Joe Budden]

Everything else should be. Everything else should be additive white people. Y' all own some shit. You want to get into black space? Go find people that know what the is. Yeah, that's it.

[Parks]

That's really it.

[Flip]

And that'll do it.

[Joe Budden]

Long and short of it. What else?

[Flip]

What else?

[Joe Budden]

What else we got. What else we got? Speaking of knowing what's going on in spaces.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Instagram is trying to set y' all up. Yep.

[Parks]

For sure.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know. I didn't know what was going on the other day. Well, yes, I did. They doing what? Snapchat?

[Parks]

Yeah. A decade ago.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, Instagram is. What are they doing?

[Mal]

They added a new feature called Maps, where you can put your location so all of your friends and family and whatnot can see where you are in real time. This sounds like the worst fucking idea ever. Like, hi, come kill me.

[Flip]

Hi, come kill me. No, hi, come catch me cheating. That's what everybody was talking about. Yo, yo, yo, chill, yo. That's, you know, that's a shame. We go right to cheating and bullshit. Fuck killing people.

[Joe Budden]

Well, Instagram, I think, explained it as like a safety measure so people could know where you were in the event that something happens.

[Flip]

That was bullshit.

[Mal]

That was super bullshit.

[Flip]

That was supreme bullshit.

[Joe Budden]

They also responded to some of the heat by saying, hey, this feature is something you have to cut on. Yeah, it is not just on by default in your phone homes. We're not doing that.

[Parks]

Yeah, for sure. But I could see how when I opened up my Instagram, it would be easy for someone to just hit continue, continue. Okay, okay, okay, Whatever. Just trying to get to their pictures and get their fucking dopamine fix and accidentally turning it on where it could be dangerous. I think it's a. It's a horrible idea.

[Flip]

It was easy to turn on. I mean, it wasn't easy, but it's a splash screen. It pops up soon as you open Instagram. You just hit the button and it's like an opt in. And now it's on. While we on this subject, I do want to tell everybody out there, go into your phone camera settings and make sure that your camera doesn't have access to your location. Because a lot of people don't know when you take a picture, the meta. The metadata attached to that picture shows where you were when you took the picture. So a lot of folks don't realize you take a picture and send it to somebody, they can swipe up and see right where you were when you took the picture.

[Joe Budden]

That's important.

[Flip]

Oh, that's gangster.

[Joe Budden]

That's important. And for some of y' all out there, no one's coming like, I know, I know.

[Ish]

Help or no one's coming to.

[Joe Budden]

No one's coming to do nothing to you. Nobody. No one. Not a soul. That's like the. This sounds alarming right now. It's like they out there listening on. All y' all don't need to be on edge. You ain't do nothing. Hey, you can unlock your window key under the mat. Put the key on top of the little molding door to that ledge.

[Flip]

Leave the door unlocked.

[Joe Budden]

Why that trash?

[Parks]

I could definitely see how it'd be super creepy for women, though.

[Flip]

A thousand percent. Hell yeah, we joking. But no women celebrities, like, yeah, definitely.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

O D O D regular. The girl with 30 followers gets stalked by some weirdo. It don't take fame or litness to.

[Joe Budden]

Hopefully she's sharing her location with her good friend.

[Flip]

Are we talking about.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Fall for anything around the world Wrapping.

[Joe Budden]

Around convenience or safety your are the greatest. Yo, you stupid. Don't worry. Natalie has my location. I'm sharing it, girl. I be done clock.

[Ish]

Natalie get there.

[Joe Budden]

Four hours later, Natalie is sleep or. Or Natalie getting folded.

[Flip]

Natalie gonna get slept when she walks through here too.

[Joe Budden]

Talk about sharing my location, Natalie.

[Ish]

That's the thing, though, man. A lot of these I Tell my kids that they had like 30, like 15 of their friends had their location. They almost lost my mind in that house. Take all that off. Y' all crazy. What the. They need to know where you at for and who y' all hiding from and why y' all sharing. I didn't like that.

[Mal]

What did they say? What's the response to why they.

[Ish]

That's the thing amongst.

[Joe Budden]

That's what they do. That's what they do. Lex done got 500 new Roblox friends. I had to go. Then I'm in my room doing some private them on the game, listening. Nah, dog.

[Flip]

No, no, don't go in the setting. I'll show you. Turn all that off.

[Ish]

I don't know what's going on. There was a side. They just spying on you, man. It's crazy.

[Joe Budden]

It's crazy.

[Ish]

And these kids fall right into it.

[Flip]

Adults, too.

[Ish]

Yeah. Nah. Nah is comfortable with Nokias.

[Flip]

Bring back a Nokia Snake on clear every day. Yep.

[Mal]

Oh, with the biometrics. Yeah.

[Ish]

No, I thought that. I knew you gotta stand there. I said, no, I'm good. I get them all the time. I don't take no picture of me.

[Joe Budden]

I'm straight.

[Ish]

You take a picture?

[Flip]

Nah.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah.

[Parks]

I was against clear until I got almost straight. I remember.

[Flip]

I remember.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, yo.

[Parks]

Yeah, sorry.

[Flip]

I got licenses and passports, right?

[Ish]

I do.

[Flip]

Okay. Yo, people kill me with that. I'm not doing this. I'm not giving my face in my. Yes, you are.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Yes, you are.

[Joe Budden]

My.

[Ish]

It's different.

[Flip]

You use atm, right? It's different.

[Joe Budden]

Law abiding citizens.

[Ish]

It's not about that. But nobody wants.

[Joe Budden]

You got a credit card. You're tracked. They got.

[Flip]

You.

[Joe Budden]

Had a kid.

[Parks]

Your car got bad chips in it.

[Joe Budden]

They know you. Yo, it's chips in your clothes.

[Ish]

There's no chips in your.

[Joe Budden]

I got y'. All.

[Ish]

Yo, I'm gonna be difficult.

[Joe Budden]

You and Ish.

[Ish]

I'm gonna be difficult to get.

[Joe Budden]

Boy, do you and Ish think y' all are eluding? What y' all think.

[Flip]

Yo, you unlock your phone with your fingerprint.

[Joe Budden]

Guess what they got.

[Flip]

And you've been arrested in the jail before.

[Joe Budden]

They been had those.

[Flip]

What are you talking about?

[Ish]

You don't want to just stand there.

[Joe Budden]

Y' all been arrested, like, recently. Like, let's not make it sound like it was far away.

[Flip]

No, I'm saying they. Ben had the print.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

No, but digital prints for y', all, though, like, a few months ago.

[Flip]

The digital order.

[Parks]

No, no digital updated mug shot.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, they know what you look like now.

[Flip]

Yeah, I a take no mug shot in a long time.

[Ish]

Me neither.

[Flip]

You talking about. All right, they ain't mug shot me.

[Joe Budden]

They didn't face card. Yeah, exactly.

[Flip]

That is true. Your passport. What's wrong with your face?

[Joe Budden]

Yo, dog, don't nobody want no problem. Sounded nervous when you called out. One of them days. You think? Cause he don't share it. You think? Cause he don't tell how you sound.

[Ish]

How you sound.

[Joe Budden]

One of those days you called out, it sounded shaky.

[Parks]

Sound like someone else might be wanting to use the phone for a second.

[Joe Budden]

It sound like something might have been going on that you wanted to keep to yourself is all I'm saying. That's all. And you didn't come in. Your gonna stop calling that with that one. I might make it for the Patreon, yo.

[Flip]

Nah, I'll be like, yo, let me know if you want me come to the patreon.

[Ish]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Flip]

I want you to come for the whole day. He didn't say, yo, bro, I. I don't talk to Joe. I talk to HR oh, let me know. All right, we'll let you know. I'll be like, all right, cool.

[Joe Budden]

All right. We want you to come in.

[Flip]

Thank you for telling me. HR, you the H and the R.

[Joe Budden]

We got it, buddy.

[Parks]

There you go.

[Joe Budden]

Stop.

[Mal]

When you were arrested recently.

[Flip]

Yo, she not letting that go.

[Joe Budden]

Get him, Mel.

[Mal]

I'm just.

[Joe Budden]

Get him.

[Mal]

I'm just asking.

[Joe Budden]

He was. Came over, gave us a shoelace in his phone. Looking all at my belt. He was looking all sad in the face. Look, now you want to play tough and cute. Look, now you Randy Savage. But that day, it's like, yo, come here real quick. Yo, can I take this with me?

[Flip]

That's what I was doing.

[Joe Budden]

Can I take this?

[Flip]

That's what I did.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Yo, take my. Here. Yo, make a call. Can I make a call? Yo, that's you Humble. That's you. You Humble pie. Yo, speaking of humble pie, I want to revisit our Will I am conversation. Because I let Parks talk me off the ledge with that bullshit he was talking about. And because I be trying to sound humble and open minded. I just went with it, but.

[Parks]

Nah, let's hear it. Nah, let's hear it.

[Joe Budden]

Will I am don't get to say that.

[Parks]

That he likes black thought better than Jay Z.

[Joe Budden]

No, that Black thought is 1 trillion times better than Jay Z. Will I am is not the emcee that could say that. And no emcee that emcees at the level we talking about. Would say that.

[Flip]

True.

[Joe Budden]

Just the comment by itself say that this person shouldn't be saying it. And when I saw Jadakiss talking about it and I loved what he had to say. Which was me too, dog. This is just division for no reason. For two names that nobody is even thinking. Nobody's. Nobody's here with this. It's only him. Will. I am who nobody is looking at like that. Or for that he's right. Shut the fuck up on some things. Will. I am a trillion. No. No. I don't care how the old shit sound. Before Shorty joined the group. Before the hits game. You can't say that. He can't say that.

[Parks]

I think he can say that.

[Joe Budden]

Man. No, he can't say that.

[Parks]

Who can't offer their opinion on fucking.

[Joe Budden]

Art that's more than your opinion on art. That there is no person on this earth that is a trillion times better than the person we talking about in one particular slider in hip hop. That don't exist.

[Parks]

It may have been a little hyperbole. You're right.

[Joe Budden]

And then when I watched it back. You saying that to sway, right? Mr. Hip Hop Card. You heard what Sway said. Explain your logic.

[Flip]

Show your back.

[Joe Budden]

How'd you get this answer? That's it. How the Noah needed to be said. Because nobody would say that.

[Flip]

That's true.

[Joe Budden]

He don't get to say that.

[Flip]

Nobody will. I am don't get to say that. Michael Jordan is a trillion times better than Kobe Bryant or LeBron. Like nobody.

[Joe Budden]

Nobody would say that.

[Flip]

They're not gonna say that.

[Joe Budden]

Like just the premise of this conversation is handled with the participants. You handle with more respect than to say a trillion.

[Flip]

That is true.

[Parks]

A tr.

[Flip]

All you're saying is that's my preference.

[Joe Budden]

Say I think black thought is better than Jay Z and this is why.

[Flip]

And that's it.

[Joe Budden]

And nobody. Nobody says nothing. That's your opinion. You could say it a trillion. You're trying to do a little more Mr. Techy Tech Tech. Mr. Tech Man.

[Parks]

That may be true. I don't know. He put some sauce.

[Flip]

You know what you do?

[Joe Budden]

Don't talk me off no leg when I'm on the ledge. I calculated before I walked up to this. Hell no. Will I Go ahead, man.

[Mal]

What was the context? Why did he just volunteer that information?

[Flip]

He was on Sway.

[Mal]

I know. But was the interview Sway asked him? Like. Do you think so and so's better than so and so? Like just seems like a random thing to just kind of pull out of here.

[Parks]

I think he may have asked him what his favorite MCs were or something. It's Mount Rushmore. I think that's what it was because it was around the whole Mount Rushmore fucking phase, which is still going somehow.

[Joe Budden]

Still. Yeah. And his thing was. I'm different, right? These are the names you normally hear, but mine is this and this is Nigga. Nigga's a fucking. You got it. Like, I respect. I like Will.

[Flip]

I am him.

[Joe Budden]

But he got carried away. It's okay to say when somebody we like got carried. You got carried away in front of Sway, which you shouldn't. Like, Sway ain't even the person to get carried away in front of.

[Parks]

I'm surprised that Sway didn't offer more push back sometimes.

[Mal]

I don't think that he needed to.

[Joe Budden]

Go.

[Parks]

Let him go on the ledge.

[Ish]

Oh, yeah, you think that. Oh, I. What?

[Mal]

What you said this clip is going to. To go viral.

[Parks]

And it did. And it did.

[Flip]

What we talking about?

[Parks]

It's been perturbing Joe for weeks.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't sleep right at night knowing that you talked me out of that. Because, Will, I am used to rap. So you still can't say that.

[Parks]

Who can say that?

[Flip]

Nobody.

[Joe Budden]

No one would and should say.

[Flip]

That is the point.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Nobody would. Who would? Let's think of somebody. Think of all the.

[Flip]

There's not one receiver living that is a trillion times better than Jerry Rice. I don't give a fuck who. You go get true Terrell Owens in the conversation. Randy Moss is in the conversation. They're not way better than Jerry Rice.

[Ish]

So we just stuck on the word yeah.

[Flip]

Or just wait. Like, it's just nobody out here that's doing it. You know what I'm saying? Like, way, way, way better than him.

[Joe Budden]

You can't do that in music. And we don't do that in basketball. The only time that's acceptable for me maybe is in baseball. Like, if somebody wanted. I've heard Gary Sheffield and the best of them say Barry Bonds was different. Yeah, they do. And they still don't say a trillion. They just say, he's not in nothing. He's better than everybody any day. No matter what he's wearing, no matter what he's. Take him out of this equation.

[Mal]

A league of his own.

[Joe Budden]

That's what they say.

[Flip]

He could wake up.

[Joe Budden]

That's acceptable to me. If you hear people today talking about Otani.

[Flip]

No, but no, like that. No. Who's saying it? Them. Gary Sheffield.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, it ain't just Gary Sheffield.

[Flip]

No, I'm saying to your original point, it's like when the, when the NBA talk about Kobe Bryant that played basketball.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, Will I am is not Gary Sheffield.

[Ish]

But we can. But you can say you can, you can understand. She did say that black thought is better than Jay. You can respect and understand as a people.

[Joe Budden]

I don't have to respect it. Everybody could say what they want to say. But when you start hearing from credible people in front of credible people at a credible location, trying to have an esteemed like real hip hop talk, it's important that we. It's important we have it. You can't.

[Flip]

He can't say that to who he.

[Joe Budden]

Said it to where he said it. If he home somewhere, say what the fuck you want to say. He shouldn't say that. Nowhere where niggas like me can hear it, where niggas like Jadakiss can hear, where rappers. When Nas is listening to this, they turned that on in the Mass Appeal office and probably had a stink face like what? No, no, no. Even there. No, they will not let him say that about Jay Z. Now. It's not like I'm glazing anyway. It's time for my favorite part of the show, Prize Picks. All right, I'm sure some of you out there are asking, what is Prize Picks?

[Parks]

What is it, Joe?

[Joe Budden]

Well, let me tell you. Prize Picks is the best place to turn your sports knowledge into real cash money. Wow. With millions of members, prizepix has made daily fantasy sports accessible to all. Really easy and simple to play. All you have to do is pick more or less want at least two players for a shot to win. Now, up to 2,000 times your cash.

[Parks]

It does seem easy.

[Joe Budden]

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[Parks]

Let's go.

[Joe Budden]

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[Parks]

Oh, they switch it up. Purple and green. That's a. Yeah, I mean. I mean, joker colors.

[Joe Budden]

Or maybe I just saw two different dildos. Maybe they threw a green one and a purple one. I don't know.

[Mal]

It's multiple colors.

[Joe Budden]

It is multiple.

[Mal]

It's multiple colors. Yep. Well, you know, I mean, I just.

[Parks]

Got the dildo tracker on the phone.

[Ish]

Yeah, I was about to be like.

[Flip]

Yo, fam, is that normal?

[Mal]

Know the, like, neon.

[Flip]

No, I mean, like, neon colors and.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, that's invasive. You can't ask Mel.

[Ish]

I didn't tell her.

[Flip]

I didn't say anything about hers.

[Joe Budden]

You can tell Mel don't look cool masturbating, too. Yep. On some old white lady. Yeah, on some old white lady. You just noticed she don't look cool at all doing that.

[Mal]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Budden]

And my cousin's the least swaggy. My cousin said.

[Mal]

And the.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, who's running that shit, Leave me alone. All right, but leave me alone. It ain't you, girl.

[Mal]

Leave me alone.

[Joe Budden]

All right, all right. I'm done.

[Mal]

Leave me alone. Anyways, multiple colors.

[Joe Budden]

What thoughts do we have about this? The WNBA responded by saying they will.

[Parks]

No longer allow dildo with the show. Yeah, okay.

[Joe Budden]

No, they will no longer allow patrons to bring bags inside the arenas. That ain't.

[Ish]

Who want to tell them Niggas be boofing it, man.

[Joe Budden]

Go to the B.

[Ish]

Pull it right out of there. Niggas do that. But I don't understand what. What is. Why are they throwing the dildos?

[Joe Budden]

Yo, can the NBA owner walk over there and just, like, lend his brain to the problem? You could tell that. Just girls trying to figure out no more bags. No, that.

[Flip]

That ain't going. Stop.

[Parks]

I think that they should be charged with sex crimes for this.

[Flip]

For what?

[Ish]

Somebody got arrested. They arrested.

[Parks]

But what they arrested for, like, some mischief.

[Mal]

Public mischief.

[Parks]

That could definitely be the charge.

[Flip]

Yeah, they need to be more severe.

[Parks]

Yeah, that's the issue.

[Joe Budden]

They didn't get the right person anyway, so it don't need to be more severe than that. They was just pressure to act.

[Parks]

Were they dusted for Prince?

[Joe Budden]

Yo, that's funny, son. Actually, two DNA. Interesting to get your juice off. Yeah, but this is a group, buddy. Oh, man. You can lock two people up all you Want that's just gonna make them throw more dildos on the.

[Flip]

They booked them for suspicion of disorderly conduct, assault and public display of explicit sexual material. You said it's a group. You chopped the head off.

[Joe Budden]

I'm saying this.

[Flip]

Al Qaeda.

[Joe Budden]

That's what you say. That's what you say. It's a sleeper cell. Listen, Kev from barstool said that he got an email from a group claiming to be responsible for throwing the dildos. They were anonymous and they said yo.

[Parks]

Those anonymous da encrypted email and they were like the funny voice.

[Joe Budden]

If you don't believe us, into the games. There will be more dildos. See you down. You did that really well.

[Flip]

That is hilarious.

[Joe Budden]

I think it's a group.

[Mal]

I think that the cryptocurrency group. Huh? Cryptocurrency meme coin creators say they are responsible for the sex toys being thrown at multiple NBA.

[Parks]

Someone has to do the voice and.

[Mal]

They are planning more pranks.

[Parks]

I need them to step out.

[Flip]

Hey, hey, Ericson, keep your eyes peeled. When that coin hit the market, that.

[Joe Budden]

Gonna take off and I'mma be right there.

[Flip]

Oh, that's genius. I see what they doing.

[Parks]

Well, you're gonna buy the dildo coin.

[Joe Budden]

You a look how fast it's turned cold on some money. He was just saying you think this is an organized sleeper cell?

[Flip]

You said once. Mel read it. You ain't right. I get it.

[Ish]

Smiling.

[Flip]

What's wrong on the kid?

[Mal]

Because I'm trying to figure out what the motivation it's. There's no pictures of dildos.

[Ish]

Step out of it, man.

[Mal]

No, I'm just trying to figure out what the motivation is. So the spokeswoman for the crypto spokesperson for this crypto group said that this was their intention was blah blah blah. He said a group of crypto enthusiasts and traders launched green dildo coin.

[Joe Budden]

Oh shit.

[Mal]

A meme coin intended to be lighthearted and perceived as a joke in late July to protest what they described as a toxic environment in the crypto world. According to the group, many smaller players in the space are struggling to keep up with the smaller players, influencers and scammers. So as a form of protest, the meme coin was created and the faction began infiltrating WNBA arenas with color coordinated sex toys to coincide with the launch.

[Parks]

This is a hell of a marketing scheme.

[Ish]

It is.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And it's working.

[Parks]

I don't know if it is.

[Mal]

Well, it's in USA Today we're talking about. Yes, it's working.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my bad.

[Mal]

It's Definitely working.

[Joe Budden]

It's working. Sydney Sweeney Jeans worked. It all works. All of it is working.

[Flip]

It's working here, too. Fuck you talking about? That shit is going up. Really think I'm joking? Yes.

[Joe Budden]

You such a bitch.

[Parks]

You call me what you are.

[Joe Budden]

Bro. Lime green next time.

[Ish]

Pick one.

[Joe Budden]

Fuck you talk about, nigga?

[Flip]

Think I won't have some shit? I saw one of them online sport book joints had. You could bet on what color you thought the next one was going to be. All of that is. Is going to make the coin keep going up and up and up.

[Ish]

That's it.

[Parks]

Do you think they'll throw it at the NFL games or the NBA games?

[Flip]

No, no, no.

[Parks]

Get your ass whooped for that, right?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Yes.

[Mal]

Apparently sex toys have been thrown at sporting events in the past. Probably the most well known incident was at the New England Patriots versus the Bills game in 2018. You guys remember anything like that?

[Parks]

I don't.

[Mal]

Yes, you do.

[Joe Budden]

I do.

[Parks]

What they throw out there?

[Joe Budden]

I remember them throwing something on the field during that game.

[Parks]

And was Aaron Hernandez playing Yo Mark.

[Ish]

Seven years.

[Joe Budden]

And this has happened at a baseball game before? I'm not saying it's never happened, but the ramifications. Do I think it's going to to happen at this frequency? At this clip?

[Flip]

No.

[Joe Budden]

Nah. And it'll be stiff. Stiff. Harsh consequences. Harsh. Yeah.

[Flip]

Because the dude next to you might snitch. Yeah. Family security come over there like it was one of y'.

[Joe Budden]

All.

[Flip]

Y' all both get up. No.

[Parks]

You might be pulling the Joe button and buying the whole rotor that meme coin money.

[Joe Budden]

I just want to see the pitch. I want to see the actual wind up. I want to see how the dildo is being.

[Parks]

Maybe they got one of them little T shirt.

[Joe Budden]

Because you got to do it on a low. You surrounded. There's people here. You got to hit with a.

[Ish]

You gotta hold it by the paws.

[Parks]

By the balls.

[Ish]

By the paws.

[Parks]

Do the dildos have balls?

[Ish]

Yeah, you got all about.

[Joe Budden]

He got. He's saying you got a shaft here.

[Parks]

It's a safe space.

[Joe Budden]

By the pickle part.

[Ish]

Yeah, the pickle.

[Joe Budden]

If you toss it by the ball. Yeah. You're not getting it where you want.

[Mal]

Dildos do not have balls.

[Flip]

The dildo got balls.

[Mal]

No, they do not.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, it did.

[Ish]

Heavy.

[Parks]

I've seen some balls on some dildos.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, what type of.

[Ish]

She used the other to plug in. She used the plug.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, Mel, you want some white. Some white dick.

[Flip]

You want some ch. Cheap with the deal.

[Parks]

Get you some balls, man.

[Flip]

Get a pair of balls. You want some? Cheap.

[Mal]

Listen, I have one, but I just keep going back to Old Faithful. You know, the Hitachi.

[Flip]

Hitachi one.

[Mal]

Hitachi. That's my favorite, but. Yeah, I forgot.

[Joe Budden]

Well, I hope. I hope the girl. I hope the ladies of the WNBA get a grip. I mean, get this. Get this under control.

[Parks]

You think that's the problem? It's just falling.

[Joe Budden]

I don't think they react to it well either, which means that this is going to continue.

[Flip]

That's really what it. Yeah, it's disrespectful money.

[Ish]

It is.

[Mal]

It's the next level up from a dick pic. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Huh?

[Mal]

It's next. Yeah.

[Flip]

That's why you don't think that's disrespectful.

[Ish]

Yo, man.

[Joe Budden]

Which it is. You're a monster, yo.

[Flip]

You a Corey. I.

[Joe Budden]

Same thing. It is.

[Flip]

I know you a Corey.

[Parks]

I think someone could flip that and make it into a profitable thing. Get a dildo sponsorship.

[Joe Budden]

Me, I like. I like funny disrespect versus, like, the real nasty, rude disrespect.

[Flip]

Like, how would you throw the dildo?

[Joe Budden]

I wouldn't throw the deal, though, because this is rude and disrespectful. It is. All right, but if you were to position.

[Flip]

If you were a rude, disrespectful person and was about to throw a dildo, how you throwing it?

[Joe Budden]

I would be trying to Steph Curry that shit to center court. I ain't gonna. And they could come arrest me. I'll make a spectacle. I'll spit in the camera like Pac. Yeah. If I get dildo arrested, I'm going out like a thug.

[Parks]

See, I've tried to find one with the suction cup and try to plant that in the back.

[Flip]

Definitely going to jail.

[Parks]

Well, you just got.

[Ish]

They stopping on the news, too.

[Joe Budden]

Then I got a lie about why I'm in. Yeah, you can't. If I go to. I can't. I'm not telling nobody. No. By the time we get murder. I thought of my story. I thought of my story in the van. I thought of mine on the way over. They gonna tell. Oh, my Lord.

[Flip]

See, I'm gonna be like, yo, we picked this dumbass up right here. Yeah. Slinging dildos at the Garden. Oh, yeah.

[Ish]

Whip your ass like noodles, huh?

[Joe Budden]

Yo, good luck to the ladies. I do hope y' all get that under control.

[Flip]

Indeed.

[Joe Budden]

Just not immediately immediately, because it's still fun. It's still fun. It's still funneling.

[Flip]

And let this coin go up a little bit.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah. What else Would somebody like to tell me why Shakari Richardson is pushing and shoving all over that man in an airport?

[Parks]

Ice Mel.

[Mal]

I don't. I don't know what happened. Ice.

[Flip]

I don't know what happened either. I saw her pushing him and she got her ass locked up.

[Joe Budden]

That's.

[Flip]

That's what I know.

[Joe Budden]

Because they leaked the video of her pushing him.

[Parks]

Oh, they did.

[Flip]

The video. Video came afterwards.

[Joe Budden]

I know. That's what. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Flip]

It was just the story broke first was she was pushing him. He kept trying to walk away. She kept bumping into him, bumping into him. Pushed him up against one of the columns in the. In the airport. And then they reviewed the tape and then went and locked her up.

[Mal]

Did she know this person?

[Joe Budden]

Yes, it was her dude.

[Mal]

Oh, got you.

[Parks]

It's her dude all right.

[Joe Budden]

And her dude didn't want her arrested.

[Flip]

He said anything at school.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not pressing charges. That's my baby. Yada, yada, yada. Real adult way to respond considering there's so many places to stuff her little ass inside of an airport in the event that she got to pushing you like that.

[Parks]

I think he's an athlete as well, right?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah.

[Flip]

He's sprinting.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Flip]

He can't do that.

[Joe Budden]

I know.

[Flip]

He can't put her little ass right in the carry on. He can't do nothing.

[Ish]

Don't put her ass right in the overhead.

[Joe Budden]

He did exactly what he.

[Flip]

Word is he did exactly what he put your little ass right overhead.

[Joe Budden]

Okay. In a medicine cabinet.

[Flip]

You make one move, that whole story changes.

[Joe Budden]

You know that little vehicle that drive the elderly people today? Gate. If it has a trunk, the elderly. Is it a trunk?

[Flip]

They drive me.

[Joe Budden]

You elderly and y'. All.

[Flip]

Oh, okay.

[Joe Budden]

There you go. You are the elderly. Oh, and I ain't far from the elderly.

[Flip]

Are you crazy? You think I ain't got 20 foot Mary? Yup, crazy. Get you right there.

[Joe Budden]

Just be ashamed of yourself.

[Flip]

No.

[Joe Budden]

Y' all are able bodied people walk from your gate.

[Flip]

I'm helping Kenneth. I tip well, nigga. And no.

[Ish]

You sit down in the car?

[Flip]

Yes.

[Mal]

Do you go up and ask them for the ride?

[Ish]

Yes.

[Flip]

Are you crazy?

[Ish]

What do you say, Pop?

[Joe Budden]

You know what?

[Flip]

You don't even got they. That's what they there for. Well, I go get the wheelchair, fam. Pop, what's up?

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Why are you going to get the wheelchair?

[Flip]

Because then it's any. Any passengers with disabilities, whatever needs extra.

[Joe Budden]

Help pre board first. I know.

[Flip]

Because he's cheap. He ain't buying first class oh, yeah. I'm not buying first class. So that's my first class.

[Parks]

That's wheelchair.

[Joe Budden]

That's my first class. Yeah, that should work. But what is your disability?

[Flip]

I need the wheelchairs. My disability is I don't want to wait. They don't know if he got a bad toe, Nothing. Oh, yeah, I always go to the ankle, yo. I get a little limp going. Yo, I got ankle surgery.

[Ish]

How long was it last you did that?

[Flip]

The last flight I took.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, you do that now?

[Flip]

Yeah, no, not every time currently. That's your man. I got a flight in a couple weeks. I'm gonna do that.

[Parks]

Oh, you're sicko.

[Mal]

Maybe not.

[Joe Budden]

No, you're saying I don't do that as someone who order first. First class ticket. This guy is a nut case.

[Flip]

We count on my pockets, right? Don't count my pockets, man. We different on first class for a three hour flight. I'm cool.

[Joe Budden]

You got it.

[Flip]

Yo, why don't people say that three hours is a long time to be in the air? Let me explain something to you. I'm drunk going on the plane. I'm sleep before we take off.

[Joe Budden]

So. So wait, so you're in a wheelchair drunk is what you say with no disability. I've been pretty drunk.

[Parks]

Never needed the wheelchair.

[Joe Budden]

That is funny, yo. Okay, you know what? That's hilarious.

[Flip]

Say what you want, baby.

[Joe Budden]

Got it.

[Parks]

Get it. How you live it?

[Flip]

Say what you want. No, one of my people's like, yo, the flight only an hour and a half, two hours. All right, cool. Hours different.

[Joe Budden]

I told y' all I ain't like ice. Airport swag. When I. When he came and forgot his in the car and had to run back. Ice is rush. Ice you could. It's a certain airport swag you gotta have like to go through the airport comfortably.

[Flip]

I just had too much that day and was rushing. I try not to rush for that reason.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, boy, when you took that trip, boy, Mrs. Beast was cussing you out and I was instigating too. Can you believe? Can you believe?

[Ish]

I know he was.

[Flip]

I know he was.

[Joe Budden]

I know he was. He's such a bird. Could you believe he did that?

[Flip]

How do you tolerate that?

[Joe Budden]

Hey, he been at it almost. What else he did? Girl, this guy is crazy.

[Flip]

That's why only their girls around.

[Joe Budden]

I know it's true. It's true.

[Parks]

Wait, so what do you do with missing peace when you. You're in the wheelchair?

[Flip]

She's in a wheelchair.

[Ish]

Oh, you got cookies.

[Flip]

The last, the last. The last time we came back from Miami. She was in a wheelchair. Yo, babe, get this. Come on. I got you. Anybody with disabilities right here. Pre board, take a flight with my mom. Mom, show them the surgery scars. Right here, we got the missing.

[Joe Budden]

Peace is young and attractive. Okay, she don't look disabled. What's the disability?

[Flip]

So disability gotta look now this your fault.

[Parks]

Oh, shit.

[Mal]

Oh, shit. Here you go.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, this your fault. Careful. Yeah, it's your fault. It's my fault. That Ice is king coon tough. It's my fault. Yeah, it's your fault. You got it, big dog. Sha'. Carri. Stop hitting. Keep your head, keep your head. Stop pushing men.

[Flip]

Because when I watched it the one time when she pushed him up against.

[Ish]

The pole, he got upset.

[Flip]

I thought he was gonna bounce off with the answer. Look to him for the restraint. I thought he was gonna bounce off. It looked like it. For a minute it pushed him hard on the pole. Cause she was first. She was just hitting him with them. But then that last one.

[Joe Budden]

I am not bigging him, fam.

[Ish]

What up one sl.

[Flip]

You seen losing all.

[Joe Budden]

You're bugging.

[Flip]

You're absolutely bugging, Joe. You're not big in a month.

[Joe Budden]

We taking this punch here too. Too damn far. Hey. All right, y', all pick him up. But don't speak for me. Shut the up.

[Flip]

When it comes to ain't nobody speaking for you.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not gonna big him up for having the restraint. You look over and see the girl is three feet and you love it. And she live with you. She be acting stupid. You know how this gonna go if you just mush. So you like that's restrain hard. It ain't hard. It's like, hey, you better knock it off.

[Flip]

But she don't knock it off and keep going.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, listen. Okay, you better stop it. The restraint. You sit there, laugh. Oh, God.

[Flip]

He wasn't laughing, bro. We in a public space.

[Joe Budden]

The only reason he wasn't laughing is cuz they was by gate 89. That is the only reason he was not laughing.

[Flip]

Okay? And that's when you supposed to laugh like, girl, you know right here.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, dog, Shakari would have been in the Burger King bathroom in the fry box if you have been in the shake in the Shake Shack in the Shake Shack fries bag. Hey, you know what?

[Parks]

What?

[Joe Budden]

Get your little self over here. What? You want a wild out?

[Flip]

And guess what happened then? Yo, you. That's why I saluted in the fry bag.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God. Wait till I tell the police what ice and his girl is doing. If you think I'm not telling somebody. That's crazy.

[Flip]

I didn't know that, you know.

[Joe Budden]

Wheelchair.

[Flip]

You see me in a wheelchair? Just salute me. I'm going. Mind your business.

[Parks]

You get the. In the grocery store too?

[Flip]

No.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Mal]

A little cart with the beep, beep.

[Flip]

That'll help you. That kind of flies.

[Joe Budden]

Now, that thing is fun.

[Flip]

That kind of flies slow.

[Joe Budden]

You gotta get the good one.

[Flip]

Yeah, you gotta get the good one and charge that joint. You gotta get them charged up, and.

[Joe Budden]

They gotta be charged up. It's just right.

[Flip]

I had to join the Wawa down south getting bucket.

[Joe Budden]

What?

[Flip]

That was dope. When I had the boot.

[Parks]

Well, sure, that's a valid reason to drive the car.

[Joe Budden]

I was getting money down there.

[Flip]

I thought I was at F.1.

[Joe Budden]

Crazy.

[Flip]

No, that.

[Joe Budden]

That.

[Flip]

That's. That's some other. The two.

[Joe Budden]

The.

[Flip]

The double wheelchairs.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Parks]

That's.

[Flip]

No, no, no, no, no, no. One of us is in a wheelchair.

[Parks]

One sits in the line.

[Ish]

Yeah. Pushing her.

[Joe Budden]

Lacking. Okay, what would you. Gentlemen. All right, we got. What would y' all like to speak about next? What. What needs our attention next? Do y'. All. Do y' all care about what Jason Lee is doing? Y' all heard the shit that Jason Lee is on. Big Man.

[Mal]

I don't know.

[Parks]

Speaking of scams.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, he's scamming. Yeah.

[Mal]

What happened?

[Ish]

Stop it.

[Mal]

Okay, Listen.

[Ish]

You know what's going on. I hate when you do that.

[Mal]

Listen, listen. I was at a conference this week. I was paying attention to what conference you was at.

[Flip]

How was your conference? You didn't tell us nothing about it.

[Mal]

Nobody asked.

[Ish]

Tell us about it.

[Joe Budden]

Well, tell us about it.

[Flip]

Say, how was your weekend?

[Mal]

Everybody bypassed.

[Ish]

I was at the Sex and the City conference. I met. I met Carrie Brasher.

[Mal]

That would be fun. No, I would go to that junket.

[Joe Budden]

Mel, you're gonna tell us about the conference.

[Mal]

Girl, I was at the national association for Black Journalists conference.

[Ish]

Oh, you told us about that.

[Mal]

Yes. It was in Cleveland, so I went for 24 hours.

[Ish]

So how was it?

[Mal]

It was amazing. It was amazing. I had. Well, for the time that I was there. Because it goes on until Sunday.

[Joe Budden]

Who gives better reviews than us?

[Ish]

She's about to give her review.

[Parks]

She's just warming up.

[Joe Budden]

I'm saying, but who. They can't fuck with us.

[Mal]

They can't fuck with us. Absolutely not. We are amazing.

[Joe Budden]

Let him know.

[Mal]

We are fucking amazing. So, yeah, it was. I hit Mark and I was like, mark, should I go to this? He was like, yes. Just. Single word.

[Joe Budden]

I was like, all right, Mark. Who was on vacation with his wife.

[Mal]

I sure the fuck did. Yes, I did. Because he is a journalist and I respect his opinion and he is my friend. And so I asked him quick question. Do you mind? I don't mean to disturb you. Okay. Got the answer. So I went.

[Ish]

You didn't write that.

[Joe Budden]

You just.

[Ish]

I did.

[Joe Budden]

You do find bread. Somebody else told me about a text that you see, you just be. You just find reasons to text people.

[Mal]

Well, I mean, if I'm asking a question that I need an answer.

[Joe Budden]

Do you.

[Mal]

Close mouths don't get fed on the boulevard.

[Joe Budden]

That's a fact.

[Mal]

Yeah. So, you know, I needed to know, should I make this investment? And I did.

[Joe Budden]

Okay. Did you speak?

[Mal]

No, I was not invited to. To the conference to speak or whatever else.

[Joe Budden]

What the.

[Flip]

Do you think it was worth it?

[Mal]

Absolutely.

[Flip]

You did networking and everything?

[Mal]

I did a lot of network. It was my first time going. I met a lot of people.

[Flip]

It was in Cleveland, right?

[Parks]

Yes.

[Mal]

What?

[Ish]

No way.

[Mal]

Talking to the mic. Talking to the mic.

[Ish]

You went there on your face.

[Flip]

Hey, that is Melissa.

[Ish]

I went there, said it to cry. You went all the way to Cleveland?

[Mal]

Have you ever been to a conference before? Okay, so you know, you walk around a lot.

[Flip]

Did you.

[Ish]

Ma'.

[Flip]

Am.

[Mal]

You know, there's like a lot of panels and shit like that.

[Ish]

Melissa Ford.

[Joe Budden]

Right.

[Mal]

I know that. And I got recognized. Everyone knew who I was. A lot of pod fans. Shout out to the pod fans.

[Ish]

I thought you were going in a talk.

[Mal]

A lot of patronies.

[Ish]

Okay, wait, let me just say this.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Ish]

You used that as a reply to his Harvard invite. And I thought you was gonna body it. Yo, I'm on her. I'm going there to speak.

[Mal]

That's different.

[Ish]

You went there to walk around.

[Mal]

No, that's different. He was invited to how. To Harvard to speak. A keynote speaker. This is a.

[Joe Budden]

How did I get.

[Mal]

He threw you in. This was a conference where multiple panels are happening. There's a job fair happening. There's events that happen.

[Ish]

Did you go to the job fair?

[Joe Budden]

I did.

[Ish]

I'm about to lose my shit. I'm about to get fired from Joe. Is this ebro?

[Mal]

Well, I mean, you know, the acronym that they use is also need a better job. So, yeah.

[Ish]

Whoa. Dang. Throwing shots at Joe.

[Mal]

I'm not throwing shots at Joe. I'm just talking about the shit that I learned while I was immediately starts bawling. Just a video of a woman who was running in a marathon, and when she looks over, she notices a friend.

[Flip]

Of hers flew in From London to watch her face. The friend flew in for, like, 24 hours.

[Mal]

And she's, like. She sees the friend and she immediately starts bawling.

[Flip]

She's, like, crying and running.

[Mal]

And you can tell she's, like, overjoyed.

[Flip]

That her friend would do such a thing.

[Mal]

I think sometimes when men are questioning.

[Flip]

Why women are choosing to be single.

[Joe Budden]

And a friend going to support a.

[Flip]

Friend, what if men do again? How is it.

[Ish]

How did we get into this conversation?

[Flip]

London to go and support the other.

[Joe Budden]

One that is running?

[Ish]

Like, what did men do again?

[Joe Budden]

How. How. How did we get into this equation?

[Flip]

How did we get into this?

[Joe Budden]

How.

[Ish]

How.

[Joe Budden]

We do.

[Flip]

Is this obsession or. You had a bad father in your life because I don't understand your bad choices. Some of you women go and choose bad men. Some of you are being raised by bad fathers.

[Mal]

Any who's.

[Joe Budden]

So what's.

[Mal]

What's the correlation between that and.

[Ish]

And me saying that? How did he get involved in the conversation?

[Joe Budden]

Thank you, Flip.

[Mal]

You did it.

[Joe Budden]

Thank you. Go ahead. Go ahead.

[Mal]

Anyways, it was a great conference, and I met several people that I am, you know, keeping in touch with. Idols.

[Flip]

Oh, yeah.

[Ish]

Oh, really?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

In the. In the. In the journalist space?

[Mal]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

I'm gonna ban review.

[Flip]

I tell you what.

[Joe Budden]

Go ahead, though. Good. All right.

[Mal]

Tell me how you would like a review to be done.

[Ish]

Good question.

[Joe Budden]

Who are the idols? You forgot.

[Mal]

No, it's not. It's not that I forgot. I bury the lead, right? Cause I like to, like, drag shit out. Is that what you're trying to say?

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God. Yo. All the shit you talking about? Nobody.

[Parks]

So who's the idols?

[Mal]

Stephanie Elam and Michaela Pereira.

[Ish]

Calm down. Who the fuck.

[Mal]

Okay, Mark down.

[Ish]

Let's get to it.

[Mal]

Just because you guys don't know that doesn't mean anything.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, thank you for that shout out to Stephanie.

[Mal]

They're my own personal. They're my own personal idols.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, okay.

[Mal]

All right. That's it for my review. It was fun. Had a great time. I'm here.

[Joe Budden]

Audience just know. I hope y' all enjoyed that review. That will be the last thing that's reviewed. Oh, speaking of reviews. All right. They got me ice. They got me ice. They got me ice. We're going to. Wait. What movies?

[Flip]

Weapons. Weapons.

[Joe Budden]

Weapons.

[Mal]

I'm going.

[Flip]

They got it. I don't usually fall for marketing like that. Usually. Actually, over marketing turns me off. I'm like, I see what you're trying to do.

[Joe Budden]

What?

[Flip]

I read every review. I've seen, like, even the in Depth reviews. Not just the. Oh, this is a great heart. You know, not. Not those surface ones. Everything I've seen has me saying. All right, I got to. I have to go see this movie. Movie. Now, the concept seems super fire and unique, but horror?

[Joe Budden]

Damn.

[Parks]

That's the first thing that popped up when I opened the little ticket app.

[Flip]

I'm good, yo.

[Joe Budden]

And you don't do horror movies?

[Flip]

Hell no.

[Parks]

Oh, it's not Shorty in it. I'm sold.

[Mal]

You scared?

[Parks]

Damn, these reviews are. Who's Shorty from Fargo or Ozarks?

[Joe Budden]

Why don't you do horror movies?

[Flip]

It's not my bad. They scare you. I can't sleep. Not my back.

[Parks]

Julia Carter.

[Joe Budden]

But you won't go to one. Yeah, Just cause it's horror.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Parks]

You don't feel like that.

[Joe Budden]

A little deeper. But if your girl is there, you.

[Ish]

Don'T feel like jumping.

[Joe Budden]

Hold her hand. You could jump.

[Parks]

Yeah. She'll keep you safe.

[Joe Budden]

She'll hold you.

[Ish]

You scared? Horror movies, bro.

[Flip]

You close your eyes.

[Ish]

Why you scared?

[Flip]

I'm not scared. What are you talking about?

[Ish]

Who did you think he's a devil? Like, okay.

[Mal]

It'S okay.

[Joe Budden]

Murdering killer from your neighborhood. But the horror movie is frightening.

[Flip]

It's different.

[Ish]

He said like. Like who? Like devilish worship.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, you.

[Ish]

You conspiracy bag.

[Joe Budden]

I got it every. Was it like Chucky?

[Flip]

N. That's. That ain't horror. Chucky in them ain't horror. When you start playing with the supernatural. I don't with none of that.

[Ish]

No. You got a lot. So no lotion? No supernatural.

[Joe Budden]

No lotion.

[Ish]

You make homemade applesauce in the crib. Homemade applesauce? I don't even make that.

[Joe Budden]

No lotion? No. Horror flicks. It's crazy. What else?

[Flip]

What else? Oh, with that.

[Joe Budden]

Anyway, I. I think I'm going to see this. Yeah, I think I'm going to see this movie. When the reviews started looking good online, I did go check the ipic. It's mad showtime. That's normally a good sign. And all the weekend shows were sold the fuck out.

[Ish]

Sold out?

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Mal]

No, they're not.

[Ish]

You just checked.

[Mal]

I just bought two tickets for Sunday.

[Joe Budden]

For who?

[Mal]

Myself and whoever she wanted to bring.

[Ish]

You buying tickets for niggas? Oh, shit. He got you.

[Joe Budden]

Let's go, man. I don't buy two tickets.

[Mal]

I know. You buy the whole row.

[Joe Budden]

So Monday my girl met us.

[Mal]

Got it? Got it.

[Ish]

Make sure you text him, let him.

[Mal]

Know I'm going with a girlfriend.

[Flip]

Fam, if you was going with a.

[Mal]

Dude, there's nothing wrong with that.

[Ish]

Let's go, man. I like.

[Joe Budden]

The girlfriend. It seemed like it ain't lit out there for you. So when you.

[Ish]

Once you pass 45, sometimes you gotta pay. You know what I'm saying? You gotta buy friends. Hey, you wanna go to the movies, girl, did you ask me what I'm doing on Sunday, stupid? Yo, you just bought a ticket. You didn't text nobody to ask them.

[Joe Budden]

If they wanted to.

[Mal]

You would know because you were always looking down on my phone, creeping and shit.

[Ish]

I love you, man.

[Joe Budden]

I love you, too. Listen, I'm going to see.

[Flip]

I'm. Check this out.

[Joe Budden]

Weapons.

[Ish]

Nigga, if you.

[Joe Budden]

And I'm waiting on one more movie, too. I don't know the name of it, but I saw the coming attraction around the same time I saw a weapon.

[Mal]

Denzel Washington and Spike Le. I'm sorry.

[Parks]

Did you see they're trying to cut down coming attractions.

[Ish]

You've been doing that to that all day. Earlier, he let you slide that. Looked at me. I'm like, this is my bed. It's okay.

[Mal]

Saw you do it.

[Joe Budden]

I'm sorry. There's a common attraction where it's. It's horror, too. So close your eyes. Close your eyes. But it's kids. It's like 100 kids take a long walk and they can't stop walking. Any kid that stops walking dies. They shoot them. Oh, what?

[Flip]

That's not hard.

[Ish]

That's glory.

[Parks]

Comedy.

[Flip]

No, but I don't. I don't know, man.

[Parks]

Is it just that there's guns involved?

[Flip]

That might be drama or some.

[Ish]

That shit sounds crazy, Joe. Where the fuck.

[Joe Budden]

It's not drama. What movie?

[Ish]

We went to see that.

[Joe Budden]

It's not drama. It's not sci fi. I watch. I go to the movies. No, I know you do see a lot of coming attractions.

[Ish]

That's fire.

[Joe Budden]

But any of them horror type flicks is going to show you that it's a really good. I wish I knew.

[Flip]

It's called the Long Walk.

[Joe Budden]

The Long Walk. Thank you.

[Flip]

It says a group of teenage boys compete in an annual contest known as the Long Walk, where they must maintain a certain walking speed or get shot.

[Joe Budden]

And it does look good.

[Flip]

It's a horror flick. Comes out September 12th.

[Joe Budden]

Mel said, I met my idols, Stephanie Aguero and Marlene Panera. This girl. Listen. Jason Lee. Jason Lee is under investigation, allegedly for stealing over 50,000 in city funds to cover a while and out of it.

[Parks]

So he took some city funds.

[Flip]

Oh, wait, he's in because he's elected.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, he's an elected official. Somewhere.

[Flip]

I forgot about that. Hold up.

[Joe Budden]

I'm gonna find. I'm gonna find my home, girl.

[Mal]

Stockton. Stockton, California. That's where he's from.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Mal]

And I think that he became. He became like a city councilman.

[Flip]

Okay. Yeah, that's dope.

[Joe Budden]

And we start tonight with breaking news. Late today, the interim city manager in.

[Parks]

Stockton announced an investigation.

[Joe Budden]

Investigation. It's all about the use of $50,000 in the city's risk mitigation fund. The money was used in connection to a recent Wild and Out event allegedly without the city manager's approval or knowledge. The city is now investigating exactly how that money was authorized and who was involved. So stay with ABC10 for updates. ABC10, you ain't help with shit just now. Get the fuck out of here. ABC10 has obtained emails indicating the city of Stockton Health Arena $50,000.

[Mal]

It was all in order to avoid canceling a show the vice mayor performed in. ABC10's Gabriel Forest has the latest from Stockton.

[Ish]

That's right.

[Parks]

We got those emails late this afternoon painting a picture of the latest controversy to grip Stockton City Hall. Those emails are between staff members here at City hall and officials with the.

[Ish]

Organization that operates the Adventist Health arena.

[Parks]

Just about a block away.

[Ish]

An email, emails.

[Parks]

Arena officials warned city staff members that.

[Ish]

The promoters of the comedy show Wild.

[Parks]

N Out were considering canceling their May event due to low ticket sales. This was just a day before the show was set to happen at the arena. The promoter asked the arena for $150,000 in support to keep the show going on, but the arena could only find $100,000. An arena official then asked City hall.

[Ish]

For the extra $50,000, saying that a.

[Parks]

Cancellation could deter future events.

[Ish]

Arena events. And that it could hurt the city's economy. With at least 10 other events already.

[Parks]

Having been canceled this year, the city's.

[Ish]

Economic development director found the money in.

[Parks]

The city's risk mitigation fund and offered it up. The particular event at the arena involved the vice mayor, Jason Lee, who said he helped bring it to Stockton.

[Ish]

Some of this controversy was brought up.

[Joe Budden]

They're about to cut to Jason Lee.

[Ish]

Meeting tonight here at City Hall. Take a listen.

[Joe Budden]

This really whole week has been about political witch hunt to prove somehow that.

[Flip]

The vice mayor conspired with city staff.

[Joe Budden]

To go in the bank accounts to give $50,000 to a brand that lost $170,000 on top of the $50,000 in an approved fund that they have used in the past. We Jason Lee. Now. Let me tell you something, Jason Lee. This is why I don't fuck with you. But we squashed our shit. But this is why I don't fuck with you. I've been on Hollywood Unlocked ever since. The story is broken. I ain't seen a peep. I'm just waiting for you to post your shit.

[Parks]

You want him to unlock his own shit?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, unlock that shit. You can't take the money from the Risk and Litigation Fund and give it to Wild' N Out so they could do a May event in the town.

[Flip]

And then he went to City hall.

[Joe Budden]

And doubled down Jason Lee, man. What do you think about this? As someone who used to work with him and has a close understanding inside, Like a source for this. Like, as someone that has inside knowledge of his inner workings and the business infrastructure over there. Hollywood, how do you feel about that?

[Flip]

What do you think, man?

[Joe Budden]

As someone who's worked closely with Jason Lee for 10 years. Well, four, which is 10. How do you feel about this, Mel? Look like the lights just got cut on when somebody asked that question. Mel, are you a wait girl?

[Mal]

I am. I am. I don't even know how to respond because I'm just.

[Joe Budden]

You just came from that Black Journalist of Canada and Cleveland conference with Rebecca, Maria, Sharon. What the fuck is going on in here?

[Mal]

I just heard it for the first time. First time. So I'm like, processing what they just said, and I'm just like. I don't know how to respond.

[Ish]

He's not gonna get at you if you comment. That's what, you concerned we will fry them up?

[Mal]

I'm not concerned about that. I just. I don't know. I'm just processing what I was doing.

[Ish]

$50,000 and paid wilding out so they could. So they won't cancel the show in.

[Joe Budden]

Stockton from the Risk and Litigation Fund.

[Ish]

What do you feel about that?

[Joe Budden]

Risk and Litigation sound like the last place you should take. Us need this. It's risky.

[Parks]

Four Wild N Out for Wilding Out.

[Joe Budden]

That's some sicko shit. But I'm here for it, Jason. I'm here for it. But she's still stunned. No, I mean, don't worry about it, girl.

[Flip]

It's fine. I get the why he did it.

[Joe Budden]

But you still can't do it why.

[Flip]

He did it again.

[Joe Budden]

Wild now is a hit.

[Flip]

No, but. Okay, it wasn't. Obviously it wasn't a hit there. If the show was threatened to be canceled due to low ticket sales. And we've already had other shows canceled. But look, if we've already had other shows canceled.

[Joe Budden]

You haven't met Big Face. Let me tell you the trick. This is a trick. Freeze. The promoter said that the ticket sales was low. The promoter called and said, yo, I need an extra buck 50 to run this.

[Flip]

If we've already had shows canceled here. Now when you get.

[Ish]

If you.

[Flip]

If Ish is getting ready to do a tour and your booking agent. Yo, Stockton, they don't show. We gonna skip Stockton because Cease and desist.

[Joe Budden]

Ish tour. Try to do it to her.

[Flip]

You can't do that.

[Joe Budden]

Cease and desist.

[Flip]

So Joe show up too. That's the funny.

[Joe Budden]

I cease and desist the out of that. That is. Go up there with the Tonight's conversation. Try to get a little something. Hey, cuz, you know it's gonna be some relationship Mandy. I'll bring a bow and arrow for Mandy. Hey, hey. I'll bring a special little BB gun or some. Go up there and say something. Go try to get a little gender war chin. It's from the jump was the. We had the airsoft and this is. Welcome to the stage. It's from the.

[Parks]

Be a great time to throw a green dildo up there.

[Joe Budden]

So stupid. Yeah. You're an idiot, bro. She still ain't Tell us what.

[Flip]

She.

[Ish]

Ain'T gonna go sit in the.

[Mal]

I was making. I was networking. That's what I was doing.

[Joe Budden]

I was walking around.

[Mal]

I. Yes, I was. I was walking around.

[Ish]

Holy.

[Mal]

I was walking around and I was meeting and greeting people.

[Parks]

Sure.

[Mal]

Yes, I was.

[Ish]

Took a lot of pictures.

[Mal]

Yes, I did.

[Joe Budden]

What is this? 850 episode 850. I'm gonna watch this again. Don't you worry.

[Ish]

You know, I jinxed it too.

[Joe Budden]

I said the eight hundreds has been killing seven hundred. Oh, yeah. Watch this. We got Cleveland journalism and Vegas tourism for you. Let's see, let's see, let's see. All right, Jason Lee, we got. Oh, all right. Right. Let's do it. Let's do it. We was talking about Dusty New York. That look.

[Ish]

Dusty in New York.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was that.

[Flip]

It was that.

[Joe Budden]

It was that. Yo, you is looking dusty and you're not saying it. I wish I could tell you. I wish I could call you out by name, but some of y' all I love.

[Mal]

Well, shouldn't you be able to call up the people that you love when they look dusty?

[Joe Budden]

No.

[Flip]

Call out.

[Joe Budden]

No. Publicly. That's not.

[Flip]

I can talk to you.

[Joe Budden]

If I treat people you love. That's why your friends. That's not why your friends be getting out of there. You can't do that to people that you love. So we started by talking about that look dusty and don't know that they look dusty. Yeah. And then I tried to progress the talk by saying if you're. If. If you. If you was dogging your lady out and your lady leaves you and go and actually finds a good man that she's happy with, your sauce points get deleted. You. You minus a thousand sauce points, you kind of automatically dusty.

[Flip]

So if she gotta go get with.

[Joe Budden]

A bum, then you.

[Flip]

You stay at your swag level.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

But if she upgrade, if. If she go get happy with someone that is actually better than you and doing better than you and looking to improve your dust meter, your dust rating, you'll be up. Going up to like 3,000. Yes. Stop me when I'm saying something wrong. I'm saying something wrong.

[Flip]

You're not saying. You look real crazy in the public. You will look nuts in the public. Cause you really look like it was that motherfucker the whole time.

[Ish]

We got to define what dusty mean. I thought y' all was talking about, like, let's do it like, clothing. No, I was talking about clothes. Yeah, that we was talking about.

[Flip]

Look, Dusty.

[Joe Budden]

Dusty is a aura.

[Flip]

Yes.

[Ish]

Yeah, it could be both, but.

[Flip]

Yeah, I agree with you.

[Joe Budden]

I agree with y', all, too. It's your clothes. It's. When don't put the. The hair lotion in their braids. When don't use beard beard butter. You can just tell when got the lotion. The scentless, scentless, CBS nasty, dusty shit. You can tell. Yo, this is not an elitist conversation either. A good lotion is $6 instead of 4.

[Flip]

It's not elitist.

[Mal]

Okay, well, then that's dusty as an appearance. But what's dusty aura?

[Flip]

Niggas could walk in with the most expensive of clothing and look Dusty.

[Mal]

Is dusty aura desperate.

[Flip]

No, it's not. The niggas that we know, they dress. They dress. They put that shit on Dusty.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, yo, if you outside every day at 47, 48, you do have a little bit of that sewer juice look on you.

[Mal]

Desperate.

[Joe Budden]

That's not desperate.

[Flip]

It's not desperate, though.

[Joe Budden]

Cause you might not be thirsty, man. What's up with you? I don't think it's. No, we not trying to say that. Why are you saying that?

[Flip]

It's neither of those things. Cause you're not necessarily looking for something.

[Mal]

Because you spent specified at age. You said if you out here 47, 48. That's why I chalked it out. That's why I'm drawing the comparison. Like Thirsty, desperate, Dusty.

[Joe Budden]

No, I'm not trying to say that. I'm just trying to say these things have a different look to them. At our age.

[Flip]

They do.

[Mal]

Okay. Okay.

[Joe Budden]

You don't have to be searching for something. I don't know why you at say Less eight days a week. I don't know.

[Ish]

You might be having a good time.

[Joe Budden]

All of that is, is could be fun for you. The look of it.

[Flip]

It's crazy.

[Joe Budden]

It's dusty.

[Flip]

It's crazy.

[Joe Budden]

It's dusty. Yeah, it is. What else is dusty? So you security be dusty looking like it. Look like it.

[Ish]

It do look a mess with the baggy black shirts.

[Flip]

The faded too.

[Joe Budden]

It only be a Chris Black.

[Ish]

Them young niggas got the security boy.

[Joe Budden]

And we talking about niggas. But now that we made it like an age appropriate conversation, there's a 48, 49 dusty look for the women too.

[Flip]

No, nigga, it's a age thing. It's a 42 and up dusty look for the women.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, you should just be living a certain way. All that shit Corey be drinking. What's the soy shots? What's the green? What's the little green?

[Ish]

Healthy shots?

[Joe Budden]

Regression grass, Wheatgrass. What's some more of that little healthy water? Turmeric. Just regular water. Turmeric. Hey, water. Drink waters.

[Flip]

Don't drink no water.

[Parks]

They'd be out too much.

[Ish]

Do you think it's that niggas just have a midlife crisis, Joe. Like niggas have nothing else to do. Meaning? Like, I feel like a lot of times I was just telling POTUS that niggas is stuck on what they used to do.

[Flip]

Yes.

[Ish]

They don't advance or they're not trying to work to get into a new realm.

[Joe Budden]

I'm with that. I couldn't agree with you.

[Flip]

And I think it's time and habits. Time is hauling ass.

[Joe Budden]

And.

[Flip]

I could speak for the men. Yo, dawg, you've been ducking relationships. You've been ducking settling down. Cause you were selfish and you was out here doing your one, two thing. Now you look crazy at 47 standing on them couches.

[Joe Budden]

See?

[Flip]

And you look insane, my nigga. Standing on them couches at 48 and you feel like if I'm not not visible like this, the love I got is gonna leave. Bro, who the want to be? No, you in the house and you ain't got nothing to do. No, I'm talking all your chicks. So now you don't got nobody to just come over and chill and watch a movie. You know what I'M saying, like, yo, you, you, you lonely. Be outside every single day.

[Parks]

I think I'm trying to appear young and lit when you're not young is setting yourself up for.

[Ish]

Yeah, but why don't them.

[Joe Budden]

It's talking about y'. All. That's not in relationships. I don't even think y' all situationship correctly. I think there's a way to even do that fly and age appropriate, where, hey, this is who you into. This is where you invest in. This is picking you up, helping you, holding you accountable, keeping you in on a snowy night, making you some chili. Y' all just didn't take it.

[Ish]

She doesn't.

[Joe Budden]

Just didn't.

[Ish]

Bro, she made a face. She didn't agree.

[Mal]

No, I'm just saying, doesn't this, like, kind of fly in the face of everything that you say when you talk about, like, the younger chicks are looking and want the older dudes.

[Joe Budden]

Dudes.

[Mal]

Yeah, but you're talking about these older dudes being at home lonely because they still have Peter Pan syndrome.

[Flip]

Yes.

[Mal]

How do the two things. How do things.

[Ish]

I don't understand.

[Mal]

I don't understand either. I understand how the two things go together.

[Flip]

Help me out.

[Mal]

You're saying that, like, 47, 48, you didn't progress in age. You didn't settle down. You're still out here. Da, da, da, da. But then when we're having conversations about, like, how women after a certain age are, you know, kind of left alone, but men don't seem to have the same problem that the younger chicks are going for the older guys. This just doesn't make. It doesn't line up.

[Parks]

That could be part of it, though.

[Flip]

Is where just because a younger chick might want to fuck with an older dude, that don't mean an older dude wants to settle down. A lot of these dudes don't want to settle down. They've been running around soaring their body.

[Joe Budden]

That's what I picked up from what he was saying for mad long.

[Flip]

And now you feel stupid at 50, me outside every day, and I know a bunch of them.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Just dating young girls, just didn't settle down with anybody. Right. That's what I thought he was saying.

[Flip]

Yeah. Like you had options. It's a lot of women that was dissing in their 20s, dissing these in their 30s. You got to about 39, and outside ain't the same. You look crazy being outside every night, even as a woman at 41 and 42 years old, but you look crazy in blue on the Hudson every single day.

[Joe Budden]

I want to add on to this point, because what you said. I agree what you're saying, but it could be taken wrong. We not talking. It's nothing wrong with being single. Being single and putting yourself first, right?

[Flip]

That's what JLO just said.

[Joe Budden]

If you put you. I don't. Every time my name come up, that's.

[Flip]

What she just said.

[Joe Budden]

If you putting yourself first and prioritizing your time and dating with intention and using the good lotion, scrubbing your feet right? Fucking getting massages and shit, treating your body the way it's supposed to be treated. Hey, we ain't talking to you. We ain't talking to you. We talking about the people that's just feeling all over the place. So the whole picture look dusty.

[Ish]

But even that's.

[Flip]

I think a couple.

[Ish]

Even. That's a crock of shit, though.

[Flip]

I think a couple of these niggas are trying to keep up appearances. They feel like I gotta let. I have to still look lit, even if it ain't really lit.

[Joe Budden]

Lit.

[Flip]

And the only way to really do that is to be outside and show y' all every day.

[Joe Budden]

And that's my problem. That's sending the wrong message. Because none of them is lit to being.

[Flip]

Say less.

[Joe Budden]

None of you is lit. Y' all not lit at all looking like that. It looks a hot. It looks deodorantless. That's how it looks.

[Mal]

Musty breath.

[Joe Budden]

It look like it ain't a dove. A dove in sight. At what age it look like when doves cry.

[Flip]

At what age you admitting Prince was looking a little.

[Joe Budden]

No.

[Ish]

At what age should they stop doing that? Oh, women or men should stop going to the spots every night, going to restaurants every night.

[Joe Budden]

I'm saying all this shit. I have the exact opposite stance. When me and my girl fight about this, she be trying to say, you dusty. Nigga, look at you outside. Girl, shut up. But, yeah, you need somebody to let you know when you're looking dusty. This.

[Flip]

It ain't cool.

[Joe Budden]

Seriously.

[Mal]

You said the. What's the age?

[Ish]

What's the age? Man, Tell me.

[Parks]

It's about the spots, too. Like, you could be outside every night, but go to, like, some regular.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Flip]

And classy.

[Parks]

Vibey.

[Flip]

A lot of these feel like they can't be regular.

[Joe Budden]

If you outside every night, you ain't taking care of yourself. You're not in the gym, you're not drinking green tea dog.

[Flip]

If you drinking liquor every day, period.

[Joe Budden]

And that is a doctor.

[Flip]

Two and three shots. Shots a day. Liquor every. I'm just giving an example.

[Joe Budden]

Fam.

[Parks]

Yeah, you're doing pretty good if you're doing that.

[Flip]

Your liver not even really getting a chance to. And don't drink no water. Nope.

[Parks]

Nor do they stop at 2 or 3.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, no, it's a group of y'. All. I was thinking about this right when I was looking at these dusty niggas. I was like, what are the pivotal ages for men right. In their life? And what I came up with was your decisions from 18 to 25.

[Flip]

Yep. That's. That's the whole rest of the world.

[Ish]

That's one.

[Joe Budden]

Are going to mold life. You get a little, and I want to say again, a around somewhere between 35 and 34 and 40.

[Flip]

No, you got to go 30, 26, 26 to whatever is important.

[Parks]

30 to 35, you should be making.

[Flip]

Some real, like 26 to 33.

[Joe Budden]

See, to me, 30 to 35, you could feel a little bit. If you entered your 30s not having it together. You could take them first five years, but 35 to 40, 41, those two stages, to me, are gonna pretty much set up what your life looks like.

[Flip]

And see, I feel like if that earlier. That what you said, 18 to 25.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Flip]

If that foundation is fucked up, you kind of on the wrong path already.

[Mal]

You could correct.

[Flip]

It's hard to correct, though.

[Parks]

I don't.

[Flip]

I don't agree.

[Mal]

I feel like. I feel like you around 18 to 25, 26, 27 even.

[Flip]

But you learned.

[Mal]

But then 28, 29 comes along. You're like, oh, here comes 30. And that seems to be a time where people, like, are like, whoa.

[Flip]

I think Joe discredited the 30 to 35. I think the 30 to 35 is second base.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Parks]

I think that's what you're supposed to be buckling down.

[Flip]

I think you're supposed to start getting a plan in action that you're going to try and execute at early 40.

[Ish]

Ish. When does it hit these niggas, though?

[Joe Budden]

Does it ever hit to go in the house? Go in the house?

[Flip]

I think they hit him at. I think it's. I think. I think it hit him already. No, I think it's hitting them at.

[Mal]

40 and they ignored it.

[Joe Budden]

Yup.

[Mal]

And they fucking.

[Flip]

They don't know how to fix it because I don't know life without it.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Flip]

I don't know the other side of that. And it scares the shit out of me, so I gotta do this.

[Joe Budden]

We sound like judgy motherfuckers right now. It's not really. I am judging.

[Flip]

I'm not judging. Nobody.

[Joe Budden]

That's just real. I'm trying to tell them the truth. You need to go to Restoration Hardware, Bob's furniture somewhere. Restoration hard.

[Flip]

No, no, they can't.

[Joe Budden]

Go buy a love seat. Go buy something to make you want to sit your hot, dusty ass down in your house, watch Wheel of Fortune. The soaps. Find you a good something to binge.

[Flip]

Man, just get a hobby.

[Joe Budden]

Why are you outside?

[Flip]

I say all the time, just get a hobby.

[Joe Budden]

These car smell like mosquito bites and off citronella. Yeah. You is in the club smelling like citronella and looking the opposite of skin. So soft.

[Flip]

Yo, you are idiot, bro.

[Mal]

There's got to be a moment in which it hits you, you know, like, you look around the club and you're like, all right, I shouldn't be here anymore. There's gotta be a. And I remember when that moment was for me.

[Ish]

Oh, I was about to ask Shout out to you.

[Mal]

I remember when that moment was for me. No, I do not be in the spots. I do not be in the spots. The point is, I am not in the spots. I've been in the spots for a long time, but I think I was like turning 37 or something like that. And I was in Greenhouse and I was high as shit. It was my birthday and I'm.

[Joe Budden]

You know, we was there, though.

[Flip]

I was there.

[Mal]

I mean, yeah, but it was just. It was the moment for me where I was just like. I was just kind of looking around at the crowd. I was just like, I gotta get the.

[Flip]

This shit ain't for me.

[Mal]

This ain't for me no more.

[Flip]

That's it.

[Mal]

It just ain't for me, you know, So I.

[Flip]

But then when that waka and Roscoe came on, I got out of that.

[Joe Budden]

Mode we got Wale verse came on. All right, it is for me. Look, my no hands. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Flip]

But no, it's a. It's a point that hits you when.

[Joe Budden]

You look around and start looking at jeans.

[Flip]

And they got the little gray in the white part.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Look like they had them on for a week.

[Joe Budden]

Then a couple of the Taz Angels come in. I'm out of here.

[Ish]

I remember blowing once.

[Parks]

You start running into people, they still around all the time. And they don't even necessarily. They just be out too. That should kind of start to be.

[Mal]

And that was the thing too. That's the thing too, is I was seeing New York.

[Parks]

No, that's being too mixy in the nightlife. When you start knowing people like, you shouldn't really know them.

[Mal]

Yeah, they're not in your life.

[Parks]

For real?

[Mal]

Yeah. From like 15 years ago in the club, I was like, nope, I can't be that if that's what he looks like and I'm judging him. I gotta get the fuck outta here, dawg.

[Joe Budden]

Today I leave a spot when people are too happy to see me.

[Ish]

Yeah, me too.

[Joe Budden]

I leave a spot today when niggas are smiling too many. Let me tell you it. Was that how you been?

[Flip]

No, I don't.

[Joe Budden]

I'm out of here.

[Flip]

That just let me know that I don't be outside. Like when people see me. Like, I went to something in my hood a couple weeks ago and it was 5, 000 people there, but won't.

[Joe Budden]

Go to a horror flick. This sound like a horror. 5, 000 people in the hood. It was a.

[Flip]

It was an R B.

[Parks]

If the do stop walking, what happens?

[Flip]

You're an dog. It was no A R and B house music shit in my hood. And I went there and it was just people that I didn't see in mad long. Even the niggas that's in my age group. And I felt good seeing them. Cause I don't be outside like that.

[Parks]

That's different if you're at home.

[Mal]

So Joe, like between the two, we're.

[Joe Budden]

Not talking about the same thing.

[Mal]

That's the difference between.

[Parks]

That's two different things.

[Mal]

Because something like that. Ish would just. Ish is the mayor of that exact politician right here. You would fucking die.

[Joe Budden]

My social battery is drained.

[Mal]

You would never even go.

[Flip]

You don't know. Because I don't. Yeah, yeah. I don't be outside like that.

[Joe Budden]

So your social battery is like a D. Like the big.

[Ish]

The big.

[Joe Budden]

The rectangle. What's the.

[Ish]

Got the 9 Vol.

[Joe Budden]

With the spring on it.

[Flip]

Shorty told me you was a triple A.

[Joe Budden]

But I was wrong for kissing on his. But I was.

[Ish]

Yeah, I mean, it's cool.

[Joe Budden]

I got me some of that sugar. The brown sugar. Oh man. Nah. But these do.

[Flip]

And the chicks.

[Joe Budden]

Anyway. Sorry audience that we went diatribe.

[Ish]

We're very judgy up here.

[Joe Budden]

I'm judging people in their 40s.

[Parks]

Judging people is one of the funnest pastimes.

[Joe Budden]

Really.

[Flip]

I don't be with it, but I just observe.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I'm not judging, but I can see it. You judging.

[Parks]

You just might not.

[Joe Budden]

Cuz it's vocal A with the wheelchair with no disability in the airport. You can't judge. You can't judge.

[Flip]

I'm judging everybody waiting online.

[Joe Budden]

All right, all right. New music New music. New music.

[Parks]

Let's do it. Let's do it. There's a lot that came out today.

[Flip]

Where y' all want to start, man? The good, the bad. What we. What we doing.

[Parks]

God does like ugly.

[Joe Budden]

Jiz. Jiz. Ship's hard.

[Parks]

Jizz. Shit is hard. We talked about it. Shut Patronies. Subscribe if you're not there yet. I love Jid's album. To me, it's a love it Album of the year contender.

[Flip]

Yep.

[Parks]

I'm not saying I'm putting it above.

[Flip]

Anything yet, but it's in the comments.

[Parks]

It's in that mix.

[Flip]

I. I came in here and said I had high expectations for this album, and if this album met those expectations, it was time for a conversation. I do believe it's time to start putting his name in them conversations. And this album is. I'm with you out. A definite album of the year contender. Like, straight through. This is a fire. Fire. Fire album. It ain't just because we talked to.

[Parks]

Him like, yeah, it was fire before.

[Joe Budden]

I had a final word with you. Exactly.

[Flip]

It's just a great album. Rapping. I like that.

[Joe Budden]

He.

[Flip]

He got records where I slow it down a little bit. I'm not. I'm a great technical rapper. Rapity rap, lyrical miracle. But I'm also doing this over here.

[Parks]

For the hoes, man. Let's just say. Look at this. Yeah, he's got a Thai record that's Fire. He's got a just.

[Joe Budden]

He.

[Parks]

Ray has record that's Fire. And then he's got a bunch of records where he's rapping his ass off.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Parks]

And it is. It is great. Go check out our interview.

[Joe Budden]

What y' all want me to play?

[Parks]

You could play. Because I'm trying to think of what we played on the show.

[Joe Budden]

It doesn't matter. That was the intro. We played the intro.

[Flip]

We played the intro. We played Community that featured clips. You can play VCRs.

[Parks]

VCRs. Is that. That Vince verse is unbelievable.

[Joe Budden]

From Rosewood all around the world. Brought to you by the same niggas that gave us us free. Reminiscent of the depths of Oscarville. Vengeance. From the ashes of Tulsa, we present to you a colossal. Fuck you.

[Ish]

Look.

[Flip]

You want a piece of that American pie? Cry humble. You want that nice crib in the hills? Real comfortable. You're Juliet, I'll be Romeo, Monte you. My mama said me fool around with you is irresponsible. You know how power and money do try to monopolize you. Like the man with the monocle on his eye When I Pass go give me $200 and shoot the fives I'm from the Six no Devil Prince of Egypt told me looking like through heaven's eyes Seeing evil was regular we recognized Taraji and Common Couldn't get the God to testify they wearing wives and camouflage is espionage Hop into the rides a hellcat with a vessel of God Cops probably stop me Anytime they feel jeopardized Pull me to the side I go ig live if I feel in danger.

[Joe Budden]

I'mma up my do it for the.

[Flip]

Squad because there's no child ever left behind hold me down dog have my back and just protect my spine and if they at your neck just know it's wrecking time Only one shot can.

[Mal]

Cause a second line 1, 2, 3.

[Flip]

Riding through the city with they strap.

[Parks]

On so this is fire.

[Mal]

It's fire.

[Joe Budden]

Vince. Vince versus I was just going to.

[Flip]

Say you get the Vince verse.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't want to cut.

[Parks]

Yeah, it is. It is what it is. The album is really, really great. Again our interview with him, he was amazing. Go, go check that out. But there's a lot of new music too. I mean we had. We got a Tiller album.

[Flip]

Okay. We did get the new. The first of two Bryson Tiller albums. This one is Devices which is actually.

[Parks]

The same second disc.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Parks]

From what. How it's laid out.

[Flip]

I. I don't understand.

[Parks]

We got a rap Tiller album.

[Flip]

Yes, that's. That's the best way to put it.

[Parks]

Not for me.

[Flip]

Not for me.

[Parks]

Respectfully, friend of the show.

[Joe Budden]

Not for me.

[Flip]

I knew the. I saw and I try not to judge this way. I saw the track list and the feature list and the features and I was just. No, not. I just said okay, this. Maybe he may be doing something different than what I'm expecting or then what I love Bryson Tiller to do.

[Joe Budden]

Right. And I ain't mad at him about it. He came up here and said listen, I'm a rapper, I'm an emcee. I love this. I can't see life without doing it. You all that you want in so cool. I want him to feel whole pause. R B Till is my bad.

[Parks]

Yeah. And I, I mean I'm not even mad at the art. He can rap.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Parks]

I would just like if he's gonna do the rap album I would like it to be a little bit more rappy. It felt in like a weird in between place that didn't execute for me personally. But there may be some people that love it.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, I met you by delivering arguably the most Impactful album of last decade.

[Parks]

It's up there. Kind of. That's invented a sub genre.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. It'd be tough to figure out an album that had a bigger impact last decade than that one. At least from black people. I don't know about no white. The white albums. I didn't think.

[Parks]

We ain't really got the most right now. It's been.

[Joe Budden]

It's been a rough couple.

[Flip]

It's a good one. I'm. I'm trying to think.

[Joe Budden]

12. Was that 2014? I don't remember.

[Parks]

Somewhere there it might have been 12. Anyway.

[Flip]

But anyway, you don't listen.

[Joe Budden]

I'm waiting for the next joint. I know he's gonna go crazy. Even though I'm not mad at him and Ross.

[Parks]

I like that record a little bit.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not mad at the him and Ross record.

[Flip]

I'm not mad at the Him Plaza and T Pain record.

[Joe Budden]

Oh yeah. I'm not mad.

[Flip]

I like that one. That's my one. That not my two records on it. Exactly.

[Joe Budden]

Everything else I'm going to wait for disc one. Yeah. Of this project. But shout out to Bryson Tiller, friends of the show.

[Flip]

And we'll be seeing him. Cuz he's on a crystal.

[Joe Budden]

You goddamn right.

[Flip]

So we'll be seeing him.

[Joe Budden]

And if he get up there rapping. I'm bringing my bow and arrow. Pel gun. Bringing my BB gun.

[Parks]

We got Premon Rock Marciano ep, sl Mini album. I don't know how they're classifying it, but I. I love it a lot. If you're a fan of them, gentlemen, they delivered exactly what you're looking for. That Juicy J tape is hard, bro.

[Joe Budden]

My sleepers from the Juicy J tape. Oh, we don't have sleepers. Oh, if we don't have sleepers, I'm playing this record right now. If we don't have sleepers, I'm playing this record right this second.

[Parks]

Nobody really safe was my on there. There's a. There's a lot of really good records on there.

[Joe Budden]

Hold up.

[Flip]

And y' all told me to. I'm so mad. I didn't. Oh, I still didn't listen to it yet.

[Joe Budden]

This is so soon. This is so sick. Huh?

[Flip]

Shout it, dick. Is gumbo ass sitting on Jumbo?

[Joe Budden]

Head up some.

[Flip]

I want that combo before I put my dick in.

[Joe Budden]

Strap up like Rambo girl.

[Flip]

I can see your camo. My friend screaming let's go. Hot like espresso I sold.

[Joe Budden]

I was outside with this sword in the car. I was on the road. I was like.

[Flip]

Let me borrow your.

[Ish]

For tonight Imma treat it right I promise not to buy Imma beat it up, baby Being polite Beefing with that.

[Flip]

So you know what's on side get.

[Joe Budden]

The work she gonna suck it till she burp no, she got the head.

[Ish]

She got a counterfeit purse your won't.

[Flip]

Come home with me I know why.

[Ish]

He mad.

[Joe Budden]

Dog this is Juicy J.

[Parks]

You know what I was thinking about when I was listening to this album is they never put him in the conversation of best producer MCs ever. And he is. He's in that conversation.

[Joe Budden]

He should be in there.

[Parks]

He's in the top five at least.

[Joe Budden]

No argument for me.

[Parks]

Maybe you want to talk about impacting.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, let's go with. Let's go Miss together. Let's go in tempo like a In.

[Flip]

The stands I'll be throwing bands out.

[Joe Budden]

Came up here this year A lot of up here stand out Let the person that she came with told me y' all she went to Google for my name.

[Flip]

I'm on some rich pocket.

[Joe Budden]

Sticking now that that record is so.

[Parks]

Hard that tape is super fire Head on a swivel it's out now. Tape is fire through and through.

[Flip]

We also got a new Mozzy album. Intrusive Thoughts. Two Mozzy fans. You already know what to expect. This is that. It's this exact same shit that Mozzy gives us. Which I tell y' all all the time. I don't always be wanting people to step out. They bag when it works.

[Joe Budden]

Right?

[Flip]

Like some people. Okay, cool. You're doing the same thing. Mazzy is. Gutter street hard raps over great production. We were doing sleepers. I had to sleep off of this. Should I play one last part? But I'll save it.

[Parks]

You know I don't like deluxes. But we got a deluxe of Life is Beautiful Alchemist. Two chains in June.

[Flip]

How many? How many new joints?

[Parks]

Two or three of this. This.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

I guess they want a verse from the Sensei most. These like ointment Bengate.

[Parks]

I'm sold. Chase might be my favorite rapper right now, bro.

[Joe Budden]

If I ain't handle my business I be backpedaling if I ain't open up a business I'll be back Peding crank, pedestrian black felon pack selling crowd shooter.

[Ish]

7 I'm screaming hallelujah Packed the Ruger.

[Joe Budden]

Way before I was drive bys and busted you with a thin line between blue out and prostituting I with my two lives keep making that point yeah yeah Properties multiple on this track. You heard me talk multiple PCs.

[Parks]

You hear me Chains, man.

[Flip]

I like what, cuz? He sound like he just having a conversation with Chains. He was going, he ain't rapping. He just be talking to you.

[Joe Budden]

He was going, we had all these up here. That's what I love. Oh, yeah.

[Parks]

We had chains up here, too.

[Joe Budden]

We did. I love that we had these guys up here and they out there showing they ass paws. I love that. Absolutely love that.

[Flip]

This shape. This is a fire year for raps, man.

[Parks]

The summer is stuff.

[Flip]

You got a lot of shit to drop.

[Parks]

Finally, finally, finally. It was a slow first half of the year, but this last couple months has been heat. Thank God.

[Joe Budden]

The song. I was looking for one of these. Oh, oh, this is it.

[Parks]

Oh, yeah, it's gunna.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

I a listen to gun.

[Flip]

25 tracks. I said I got. I got to.

[Joe Budden]

I got to wait, no.

[Parks]

Is that what it is? This one here, I copped it, but I ain't listening.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah. Yes, sir.

[Flip]

I got to play this in tomorrow.

[Joe Budden]

Fame. This is pain biting my game off that Gunner got to kill him. Hey, yo, none of y' all beefing with this boy can with him right now. I don't know who's beefing with him.

[Ish]

You so stupid.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know.

[Ish]

No, no, no.

[Flip]

They should just leave it. Leave him alone.

[Joe Budden]

None of y' all that have a gripe with him can do nothing with him at this particular moment. I'm not saying ever.

[Flip]

Hold on now.

[Ish]

And I'm G. Say, hold on.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Flip]

Because I'm G. Add on to what you're saying.

[Ish]

Sorry.

[Flip]

No, go ahead, go ahead.

[Ish]

You were right, too. You called it as far as Thug and Gunna relationship, you said, all that is smoke and mirrors. But when it comes to business, when he brought him out on stage and stuff, you called that whole thing when a lot of people was like, yo, Thug ain't gonna mess with him, or none of that. I just wanted to acknowledge that. I saw that the other day. I'm sorry for you.

[Flip]

No, no, you good. You said they can't mess with him now. They haven't been able to mess with him since he came home.

[Joe Budden]

Pretty much, yeah.

[Flip]

It's been. He's been on a run.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Flip]

For a couple years now. It's almost like y' all needed him.

[Joe Budden]

You could drop that. Almost like we gonna tell the truth. Yo, this is so hard. In the car, though. I think that goes right into this. Oh, oh, nah. Smooth Gunner. Don't be missing. This album is what the Bieber album was to y'. All. Hey, come on, man.

[Flip]

Man, y' all gotta leave him alone.

[Joe Budden]

It ain't hard to see who win it. It ain't hard to see who winning.

[Flip]

Look how st my gush can't take an image.

[Ish]

Catch me ever plenty. I don't get offended.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, a lot of songs on this gunner project. If you haven't made your way through the entire album, it just came out. I totally understand. There's heat on here. A lot of heat on here. I also understand if you saying that some of the songs early on, maybe, maybe 1 through 3, 1 through 4, have the same kind of vibe. That's a turn off for some people. For me it is not. If you are really, really, really good at this, at your vibe, then by.

[Parks]

By means produce albums sometimes should have the same vibe.

[Flip]

I'm not mad at that.

[Parks]

I'm not necessarily. With the mixtape album that we get.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. All over the place. Just not cohesive.

[Parks]

Something for everyone. Like, I mean it's dope when it's executed but I'm also okay with it being, hey, I bought Gunna and he gave me Gunna. Hey, I bought Alchemist and Gibbs and they gave me Alchemist and Git. Like I'm okay with that.

[Flip]

That's what I was saying about Mozzie album. That right there.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Like I. I got it exactly what I wanted to get from you.

[Joe Budden]

Right.

[Flip]

We talked about Bryson and I'll pay that one. We talked about Bryson and it was like, all right, this is not what.

[Joe Budden]

We wanted from you.

[Flip]

Somebody might like it. But that's what I mean. Exactly.

[Joe Budden]

Right. What I give Gunna credit for is you clearly are at odds with the label. Everybody knows this is the last album on said label and you still handed in 25 quality records. Unheard of.

[Flip]

Mike can't not make quality.

[Joe Budden]

Unheard of to me. Right. He might have tried to give him a bad album and it didn't work.

[Parks]

That's never good anyway.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Flip]

And you don't want to step on your own brand.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Keep.

[Parks]

You don't want to put up bad tape.

[Joe Budden]

We used to. Yeah, we used to because we just wanted to get out the deal. And this is up and our fans will understand when we come back with the next project. They. They 86 that way of thinking and they were correct. You should not do that today. Gunna, great project.

[Flip]

And the other thing I like about him, I ain't really heard of Pete from Gunna. Yeah, about nothing. Like, yeah, he.

[Joe Budden]

He looks quiet.

[Flip]

I'm putting out heat. I'm doing my tours, my shows and.

[Joe Budden]

Then I'm going and all them can't with me. And it's quiet. It's quiet. We let the work do the talk.

[Flip]

That's my point.

[Joe Budden]

Just let the work do the talking. Dog Gunner is doing something like Atlanta Kendra type. He is. I forgot how silent he's been.

[Flip]

Easy to work. You've been chilling Mad Loki. But it's been about two and a half. Maybe almost three years. Yes, almost three years now.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Three albums, not a peep came out.

[Joe Budden]

Got out that contract, went right to work. Working out, looking great, traveling, moving like you're supposed to.

[Flip]

That's how. That's how you keep your head above not looking dusty.

[Joe Budden]

Not looking dusty. We probably better off telling you who not looking dusty. Dusty. Most of the field is looking. Gunner don't look dusty. No, no, he looked like that. Good exfoliation. What else? What else? What else came out? This guy's a girl, yo. Oh, Mel, why do you keep looking at my phone? Why do you do that?

[Ish]

Sorry.

[Joe Budden]

You can't even help yourself.

[Mal]

You're right, I can't. I'm sorry.

[Ish]

You talk about me when I was.

[Mal]

And you do. Yes. It's this little thing over here. You look at my phone, I look at his.

[Ish]

You did a lot of off at work, man.

[Joe Budden]

Saw a girl. Saw girl. India Sean. Lucky Day. Cotton Candy Boulevard. This is a bop. If we were doing sleepers. I play it. I can take. Wait a minute. Hey. Cotton Candy Boulevard in your phone and on DSPs right now. I can't cut it off before Lucky Day comes on. I can it.

[Ish]

God damn Lucky day.

[Joe Budden]

You don't bring your. God damn it. You get the point. It's heat.

[Parks]

That's how to buy it.

[Joe Budden]

That's how to buy it. It's out there in your phone. DSPs.

[Flip]

India Sean.

[Joe Budden]

Lucky Day. Cotton Candy Boulevard. Mel just sent me something about. Is this out? You want me to play it?

[Mal]

I mean it's new music.

[Joe Budden]

You know I didn't vet. I don't just play on air without.

[Mal]

It's got Lucky Day.

[Joe Budden]

That ain't enough. That's enough for you. See, I bet more than I need more than that.

[Mal]

Don't be.

[Joe Budden]

Does this have the male CO sign to play on?

[Mal]

It isn't.

[Ish]

Answer the question.

[Mal]

No, wait, hold on. It literally is a question.

[Joe Budden]

Have you heard Dope way?

[Mal]

Is there an artist that is so dope to you that like they get an automatic.

[Flip]

I got a whole list of dope it.

[Ish]

Which way? Cause you're dope. Dope to you may be different from dope to me.

[Mal]

For me. Leon. I can see Leon Thomas name. And I'm gonna. I know I'm gonna love what I'm listening to because I love the sound of his voice. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Budden]

Or.

[Mal]

Or like.

[Ish]

Or you could use a stand.

[Joe Budden]

Cause you a R and B head.

[Mal]

Yeah, no necessarily. There's not.

[Ish]

A highly functional R and B listener.

[Mal]

Ish. What they trying to say, yo?

[Joe Budden]

Nah, you are a highly functioning R and B head. N. For real. That's funny.

[Ish]

That was crazy.

[Joe Budden]

But to answer your question, Mel, there's people that I will purchase just off the strength of their name. But it's in terms of playing on air on the broadcast without me hearing it. Nah. Okay, maybe Ho.

[Ish]

Yeah, that's it. Not Black Thought too.

[Mal]

Oh, shit.

[Flip]

No.

[Joe Budden]

I would bet the Black Thought record. But shout out to Black Thor.

[Flip]

I gotta cut the black.

[Joe Budden]

There's a couple that I sent.

[Flip]

You'll play Kendrick, you'll play.

[Joe Budden]

Not without. I'm not going straight on Kendrick. Hold on, Joe.

[Ish]

That's not. We were crazy. I guess it was during the beef time.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, any of that we playing, but even that. Some of that we listened out there on ear without putting an ear to it. Just putting. I'm not doing that. Let's see what Mel want us to hear.

[Flip]

Butterfly.

[Joe Budden]

This is her bag right here with this high as hell. Oh.

[Flip]

Hold on there.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, hold on there. Okay, now.

[Ish]

Okay, now.

[Joe Budden]

Mel trying to go to laundry mat so bad. Spin cycle washing.

[Ish]

Oh, you got it from. You got it directly from the source, huh? Via text. I saw that. I read your whole conversation.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, somebody text us right too, huh?

[Mal]

No, he did not.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, that wasn't bad, but that's what Mel be doing.

[Ish]

Hey, I'm on the show right now. Send it to me. I'm gonna get it played.

[Mal]

That is not what happened.

[Ish]

We're in the midst of the music.

[Joe Budden]

You are such a R B songstress, yo.

[Ish]

A highly functional.

[Joe Budden]

You are such a brilliant. This R B. Anyways, that does sound like he.

[Ish]

That was nice, bro.

[Joe Budden]

I'm gonna get us a purchase. Let's see, we went up over weapons. We went over Jason Lee stealing from the Risk and litigation fund. So Wild N out can still happen. Let's see.

[Ish]

We got nothing on there, bro.

[Joe Budden]

We went over music. We did Shakari. We went over dildos. Al B. Shore's new book. Mark put that there. He's not here to tell us about it because he's sending morbid texts from vacation. Is Vegas dying?

[Parks]

I don't know. Joe. Is it?

[Joe Budden]

Who gives a. Who cares?

[Parks]

People moved out of there.

[Joe Budden]

Anybody see Cam? And Cam reply to Gilly. And Gilly replied to Cam. And Cam replied.

[Parks]

They still going.

[Joe Budden]

And Gilly replied to Cam. I think it's over now because Sierra. We gotta have a talk about Sierra. Cuz Sierra pointed out that Gilly was in the move get out the way video and he was working. Y' all didn't see the clip? I didn't see that.

[Ish]

That wasn't him in the video though.

[Joe Budden]

Right, Joe? I don't have confirmation on that. I hope it wasn't, but it may have been. He didn't deny it.

[Flip]

Wait, that was really her? I saw the clip. That was really. No, that wasn't killed.

[Ish]

Let's find the clip.

[Joe Budden]

We don't need to find no clip. Look at it on your own time. Cause what is it gonna do? It ain't gonna help. Y' all look less stupid in the face right now. I got you sitting here listening to you.

[Flip]

I'm.

[Joe Budden]

We don't know. We don't know.

[Flip]

That's hilarious.

[Joe Budden]

Him treated it like it was him. Right?

[Parks]

And put a book.

[Joe Budden]

Put a book into that. But I think Gilly has responded. Gilly, I love you. So I'm not talking about that Sierra shit, but Sierra. I think Sierra has like an emasculation kink.

[Flip]

Keep going from the gym.

[Joe Budden]

Shit gym. And now this. Just waiting on strike three. But it seemed like she's just visiting our. Our macho niggas and just throwing some girly wrench in this. Like, yo, if I have a dwork, don't remind me of it. If I ever did it in a ludicrous video, I don't think it's your place to say or. That ain't something that's like the mero compliment. Oh, my God. Remember when you was in that band? I love that video you did when.

[Flip]

You was dwerking at the Sierra shit.

[Joe Budden]

That nobody in the world remembers. But I do.

[Flip]

I do.

[Joe Budden]

So now everybody runs to the clip. Ciara is on bullshit.

[Flip]

You know what? I think that.

[Joe Budden]

And I think that that's New York Ciara since this nigga came to the Giants. Ciara. This wasn't Atlanta. Sweet, kind and pure. Ciara is on bullshit right now. And nobody knows it but me.

[Flip]

I think she got a too comfortable thing. I don't know. Like she just gets. Cause she's so. Everybody loves Ciara. You know, she don't really get much hate or nothing. And when she come around, it just be. I'M so cool and comfortable, I could just get off some shit that I probably shouldn't even say. Cause ain't nobody said nothing to her about it yet.

[Joe Budden]

I'm glad.

[Flip]

Even when we did the gym shit, that shit was foul.

[Ish]

The gym didn't think so, though.

[Flip]

But that's my point.

[Joe Budden]

No, Jim was classy. He was classy.

[Ish]

No, no. I spoke to Matt about it. He said that he thought that he didn't know why people were giving Ciara a hard time. He said if anybody gonna tell him about getting married, why wouldn't it should be her? She's married, she's in her relationship.

[Mal]

And, you know, plot twist.

[Joe Budden]

I got it.

[Ish]

Yeah, I dropped the footage.

[Joe Budden]

Well, in the event.

[Mal]

Oh, did you?

[Joe Budden]

Mm. Well, let's see if he has that response. If a dude does that, him the.

[Ish]

Dude that's been married for a long time.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ish]

It's like, what a Kirk Frank.

[Joe Budden]

If Jonathan Majors crash his interview, say, yo, why you not married, homeboy?

[Mal]

You don't think maybe not.

[Joe Budden]

I think you should be married. Let's see if he's like, yo, Jonathan Major is a good dude. Marriage has been on my mind. Let's see.

[Flip]

I'm.

[Joe Budden]

These is full of. Jimmy. Full of. I'm done with these. He said that Jim is full of. All right, cool. Hey, marriage. Go, Sierra. The dork is foul.

[Mal]

What is dwark?

[Flip]

Use your. I mean, just.

[Joe Budden]

All right, Imani. Yeah.

[Flip]

You're very well read. Take two words, put them together.

[Parks]

I'm curious to hear what the dork soundtrack is about to do.

[Joe Budden]

It's your time to shine again. Now, this did get you two in trouble the last time. We. But, I mean, won't even hit the dwer for you no more. You really ruined it. You blew it. Look.

[Ish]

Yeah, I don't know what you did. Like a flat.

[Joe Budden]

We can't never talk. I don't know what. You won't even work.

[Ish]

Yeah, they be at the bathroom. He gonna hop away.

[Joe Budden]

Mel.

[Ish]

What?

[Joe Budden]

What happened? I'm drooling on her.

[Ish]

That nigga don't go to the elevator with her, nigga.

[Joe Budden]

Nah, for real. He's just looking at his phone.

[Ish]

I'll wait for the second elevator.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God, Mel.

[Mal]

Do we not have a part of the show? Yes, I saw you looking at this.

[Joe Budden]

What did you do to the interview?

[Mal]

Can we read parts?

[Ish]

Hey, guys, my name is Melissa Forbes.

[Mal]

I have figured out what Dorking is. Go ahead.

[Ish]

Let me tell you what I did. I want your opinion, guys. Especially parts. So I was at work See, Annette.

[Joe Budden]

That would take this episode out of here. You know what, you guys, I need your opinion on something. Am I the drama? Oh, here's. Here's the scenario. Oh, we be going. We'd be going, Melissa, but you want to come in here with the Cleveland Canadian black journalist that she didn't speak at that. She's just walking around.

[Ish]

I'll be speaking next year, so you mellow it now.

[Joe Budden]

That award show, that journalist convention will be defunct next year.

[Mal]

It will not.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, come on.

[Flip]

Cleaving Clens.

[Joe Budden]

That's how they got you, yo. Next year we gonna get. We gonna bite you.

[Ish]

That's how they got you with the Gracie.

[Joe Budden]

With the Gracie hater.

[Ish]

You said you gonna win one next year. No, I think the Gracies fly. But you did say you winning one next year.

[Mal]

I said a couple of things. A few awards.

[Joe Budden]

But why would a not d for someone like you? Like, can you think of.

[Mal]

I'm not even going to ask you. When's the last time y' all dwer for your girls?

[Joe Budden]

Oh, in Turks. In Turks. When we was trying to figure out what dworking was. So she showed me first, and then I did it. But I was doing. Doing it with my ass. She was like, can I get some dick move moving? I'm like, my sleep as hell. It was moving. Mom, you making jokes about my relationship. Oh, you making jokes about me working in my relationship. He tried to fry me up with that picture. I thought about that at home. That.

[Ish]

I thought about that at home.

[Joe Budden]

It wasn't even smoke. I wasn't. I was just making a joke.

[Ish]

He said, I'm ready right now. I'm ready right, right now.

[Flip]

I've been thinking about you.

[Joe Budden]

I fry you up right now.

[Ish]

Yo, me up.

[Joe Budden]

He take to the max. He's like 0 to 100 to the max. He is the walking embodiment of 0 to 100. He is. Mel, why would someone like you are a sex symbol?

[Ish]

Why would a nigga used to be a sex symbol? You just a symbol.

[Joe Budden]

You cool.

[Ish]

Why would.

[Joe Budden]

Why would somebody just a simple not. I cannot figure it out.

[Mal]

I don't know.

[Ish]

Come on, Mel. Just give us something juicy. Why would a man.

[Mal]

No, your imaginations run wild enough.

[Joe Budden]

And my cousin.

[Mal]

Leave me alone. Leave me alone.

[Ish]

I thought you canceled that shit.

[Mal]

Leave me alone.

[Flip]

Yo, which cousin?

[Mal]

Leave me alone.

[Ish]

You still got Cameo?

[Flip]

Yo, which cousin?

[Ish]

Hey, guys, this is me, Melissa Ford, Shout out to the. To the Bronson podcast.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, we do have a part of the show, all right? We do have a part of the show.

[Parks]

Let's all help some people out.

[Joe Budden]

Flip, change everything. Y' all have very interesting ringtones.

[Parks]

I wasn't a ringtone.

[Joe Budden]

All right, this is from somebody named Widdle J. Widdle, Widdle J. 89. What's up?

[Parks]

What's up?

[Joe Budden]

Widdle Widdle J says hello. JBP. My sister is 38 and has always wanted children, but she's never had a healthy relationship. Her current boyfriend is a drug addict and a thief.

[Flip]

Oh, okay.

[Joe Budden]

This girl's white. Whoever this is, this is white. While she doesn't use drugs herself, she's epileptic and gets tested at work. I can see how much this man is draining her. She's lost weight, and though she seems to be in better spirits some days. She used to be in a harsh. She used to be harsh and mean all the time. I fear she's just trying to hold it together while settling for someone who adds nothing to her life simply because she wants love, stability, or family. It seems like she's settling because she's afraid of being alone or running out of time. I'm two years. I'm two years younger than my sister, and we haven't spoken in over three years due to a personal fallout. I'm really worried about her, but I don't know how to reinitiate contact. I don't want to come off as judgmental, but I also don't want to stay silent while she's stuck in something that could be damaging. Has anyone been in a similar position trying to reconnect with a sibling you cut off, especially out of concern for their safety and well being? How do you reach out without reopening old wounds or making things worse? Wow.

[Flip]

Yes, I have. I've been in a situation with sibling that I cut off. I came and told y' all that we've recently reconnected. You can't do it without opening those old wounds, though. That's the first step towards the reconnection, though. Like, y' all are gonna have to get that out the way. There's no way around. It's like a dress. The elephant in the room type shit. With enough time has passed, hopefully y' all could be in cooler places and y' all can talk. And once you get that passed, y' all can rebuild your relationship.

[Joe Budden]

You about to cry. You good?

[Flip]

No, I'm not about to cry.

[Ish]

Freeze.

[Joe Budden]

He starts stumbling at the head. Perfectly fine. All right, but did your voice get shaky?

[Flip]

No, I'm just. I'm being sincere as I'm speaking to.

[Joe Budden]

The shaky, shaky Bro, it's not.

[Flip]

It's not shaky. It's nothing wrong. If you wanted to tear up for.

[Ish]

You, you didn't want to acknowledge.

[Joe Budden]

I cried at birds don't sing.

[Flip]

I didn't cry at birds don't sing. Absolutely.

[Joe Budden]

Did Barks cry?

[Flip]

No. Nobody cried.

[Parks]

But I was crying at the bar.

[Joe Budden]

That's some white crying at the bar.

[Parks]

Yeah, that's absolutely white therapy.

[Ish]

Lemon drop.

[Joe Budden]

I don't have no advice for you. I think you should mind your business. And if you was my sibling and I was running around happy with my drug addict significant other, then, yeah, I cut you off for a reason. Every time you popped up, you was on some positive.

[Flip]

He cut her off.

[Mal]

He could.

[Flip]

Yeah, by the letter. By that. He cut her off and now he's seeing her and he wants to reconnect.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, don't reconnect. Stick to. Stick to whatever. Whatever you was on. Whatever you was on. We still on there. Don't come back. J. Widdle. Where is your girl?

[Flip]

Don't listen to him.

[Parks]

Go talk to your sister.

[Ish]

Answering the phone tomorrow is a promise.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, normalize identifying the family members that you never want to speak to again. It did.

[Ish]

That's not good, Joe. I don't.

[Joe Budden]

Mark did.

[Ish]

I don't like that statement, especially a.

[Joe Budden]

That's about to be Mel. Did Mel cut off hourly. And we don't care. Never say that about it. But some of them approached me. Oh, never. Some of them step to me outside and I don't be knowing the tea because she don't tell us when they cut off. You gotta stop jamming up like a lot of shit. You gotta. They told me.

[Flip]

I was like. I thought y' all was still cool.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know what you're talking about. Smell don't play.

[Ish]

We're talking about.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, see, you want to do that when we.

[Mal]

Yeah, I know that you guys could tell me on the balcony, but we can't do that. You know what it's like the songs that you don't want to play until you vet them. I gotta vet what the fuck comes out of yalls mouth before we see.

[Joe Budden]

Why I need to vet. I went and played this song you sent me. It's a rap song.

[Mal]

Anyways.

[Joe Budden]

It's a rap song with Lucky day crooning in the back. See why I don't let these text me music.

[Flip]

No, not.

[Ish]

Yeah, yeah.

[Flip]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Budden]

Anyway, Jay Widdle, mind your business is my advice to you.

[Ish]

You about to go to family reunion. You keep my family. You ain't Gonna mind your business.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, no. I don't have any family. I don't speak to you.

[Ish]

You don't have any family.

[Mal]

Is there any family?

[Joe Budden]

I don't have any family members that I don't speak to.

[Ish]

Yeah, but if it was that, that you.

[Joe Budden]

My crazy cousins. I speak to my crazy aunts and uncles. My drug addict family members. I speak to Imani.

[Ish]

Imani knows something.

[Joe Budden]

I don't have any family members. That was a moment when he did that. But he apologized. He apologized.

[Flip]

That's the same thing.

[Mal]

This might be insane kind of situation, huh?

[Joe Budden]

But I was ready to ride balls.

[Ish]

To the wall and not talk to your brother forever.

[Joe Budden]

I'm ready to not talk to for the rest of your life.

[Flip]

That's how you ride with your balls.

[Joe Budden]

To the wall and just say. That's a weird way to vibe saying Antoine and Park. That's a weird place to put your boss.

[Flip]

You might got that lime green thing on the wall.

[Ish]

I don't agree with like, y'.

[Joe Budden]

All.

[Ish]

All of y' all that don't talk to family that don't want to. Man, y' all come on. Tomorrow doesn't promise.

[Joe Budden]

If your sister's happy with her drug. Drug addict boyfriend, then mind your business.

[Mal]

But that's the thing. Is he really. It could be dangerous to him not happy.

[Joe Budden]

What is Your advice then, Mr. I won't speak to my uncle or give him the car ever.

[Flip]

Car gone.

[Joe Budden]

See? So what advice?

[Flip]

Do you lie, pelican?

[Joe Budden]

You more open your old wounds, fam.

[Flip]

If your sister is going down a dangerous path, you should definitely address it and speak to it. Whether she listens to you or not, you can at least say, yo, I made a gallon of.

[Joe Budden]

But they don't talk.

[Flip]

I know.

[Mal]

So he's trying. His question is how do I reinitiate?

[Joe Budden]

Subpoena her.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Budden]

What are y' all talking about?

[Parks]

Text her. No bump into her at the grocery store.

[Joe Budden]

Pop up over the house when she at work, though. Let drug addict dude answer the door. Talk to him like you talked in this little emix. That's a good point. Let me see how thorough you.

[Parks]

Which drugs?

[Joe Budden]

I was about to say, depending on.

[Flip]

The drug that could work out for.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, tell it the home boy. Stop writing Dear Johns.

[Ish]

You can't tell.

[Flip]

No, no, you can't do no crackhead. Leave that nigga alone.

[Joe Budden]

Slide the shit out of J if you got that.

[Flip]

F you slot him.

[Joe Budden]

If you really love your sister, shoot him. Wait. He alive and he. He was doing your sister Roy breathing. Lucky I ain't got no sister. Oh, my sister. 11.

[Ish]

Can you really watch your family go down a dog hole with the guys of minding your business?

[Joe Budden]

My family is the dumb. What are you talking about? Get on these pods and act like they have healthy families. And y' all don't. But we don't have none of y'. All. Stop trying to sound like that. Y' all families is black holes.

[Ish]

Oh, you said your family's a black hole. Not mine.

[Joe Budden]

That's why you keep going to Portugal. You go everywhere but Virginia. Get your ass. Take your ass. Come to this Chris Brown show you coming to Chris. Chris Brown show you in Portugal. We reclaim.

[Flip]

Was it fx?

[Joe Budden]

Bring the camera. Reclaiming you back.

[Flip]

We going to introduce you to your cousin. I was just in Virginia. Family.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah.

[Parks]

That's actually a perfect lane for you, cuz.

[Flip]

You be doing that reuniting people with their family.

[Ish]

All right. Yeah. Breezy, my man.

[Joe Budden]

He better go home than see.

[Ish]

He better.

[Joe Budden]

No see. Hey, hey, speaking of reuniting, you better go. Huh? Hello.

[Ish]

You talking about me?

[Joe Budden]

Oh, no, wait.

[Ish]

Who the you.

[Flip]

Talk about you?

[Ish]

Oh, I'm reunited. Watch your.

[Joe Budden]

Thank God I got.

[Ish]

Yo, she be listening and she be checking your. That be highlighting. That don't need to be highlighted. Be wrong. That is up.

[Flip]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What you just say?

[Ish]

He be highlighting. That does not need to be highlighted.

[Flip]

He does say that one more time.

[Ish]

Do that right. I can repeat if you. If you. He highlights. That does not need to be highlighted. The other day, I was driving down from the camping trip. My wife called me. Yo, why Junior not with you in the van? Why you in the van in the tent, too?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

No, nobody was in the tent.

[Joe Budden]

I was in the rv.

[Ish]

Junior, no jr. I don't even do that in front of jr but do what she's doing. Meaning that I would never do something like that either. But if. Especially with Junior, I won't play like that.

[Joe Budden]

You slept in the rv with who?

[Ish]

By myself.

[Joe Budden]

And she accepted that answer?

[Ish]

She trusts me. Yes. Junior is there. He was on the.

[Flip]

Said you slept in the RV by yourself.

[Ish]

I did.

[Flip]

Where was Junior?

[Ish]

He was in the camp. He wanted to be in the tent. He was filming.

[Flip]

It wasn't. No, no, no. Nice cute bears in the tent.

[Ish]

No, listen, I was so far away from people. Like, the only way you can get to me is by driving.

[Joe Budden]

Huh?

[Ish]

So what I'm saying is that Junior had.

[Joe Budden]

He laid it all heavy for linking.

[Ish]

No, no. Because you've been getting me in trouble with that yo, so you gave a. I like that. Because of you, we don't play with your family like that, bro.

[Flip]

You gave a camping trip.

[Joe Budden]

Who don't blame people.

[Ish]

I stop when you check me.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, please.

[Ish]

I stopped. I never did it again.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, please. You came right on air talking about when Jordy was cooking for me. My girl heard it.

[Ish]

But wait, it was too good, cuz you didn't want to.

[Joe Budden]

You was like, oh, that food rag.

[Ish]

Yeah, it was when A saved the beans. Yo, E. What the E. E, the tied the bag. It was the old plastic bag too. They don't forget those plastic bags no more.

[Joe Budden]

The brown.

[Ish]

In the Spanish house.

[Joe Budden]

See?

[Flip]

Yo, you know you doing it again right now.

[Mal]

Highlighting sh.

[Joe Budden]

It should not be highlighted. You are the highlighter.

[Ish]

Wait, listen, what he said last time. Hey, yo, you've been hanging around with somebody a little bit too much, you know, and. And Linky asked me about it. I said, I don't know. That's just Joe being Joe now.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, that line's not working in 07.

[Ish]

No, that's just joking now. She called me the other day. Yo, Junior was in the Sprinter. I was in the van. Yo, why are you not. Why is J.R. not with you? What are you doing? I'm like, nigga, who you? I was just answering her questions, but I had to think about it, like. Don't be questioning me.

[Joe Budden]

J. Whittle. You're done. Flip Widow, you're done.

[Parks]

Taxi. Sister Jay Whittle.

[Flip]

Yeah, and I know that sounds crazy.

[Mal]

Start with love.

[Joe Budden]

Mel, you got any advice for this dude?

[Mal]

Yes. He should reach out to his sister and start from a place of non judgment and love.

[Ish]

Do you speak to your sisters?

[Mal]

Yes. Well, one. The other ones, I don't know.

[Ish]

You can find them, Flip.

[Joe Budden]

See you find these Chicago PD motherfuckers.

[Ish]

His sister.

[Mal]

That's hate.

[Ish]

He was at Thanksgiving with the Metronomy.

[Joe Budden]

He was at the meet and greet.

[Flip]

Wow.

[Ish]

Yo.

[Flip]

Y' all play too. Y' all dirty.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't hear what he said. Nothing. Don't repeat it.

[Flip]

Nothing.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't hear what he said.

[Flip]

You are crazy.

[Joe Budden]

Mel. And ish. Call your families and ish every day. Flip, go home. Home.

[Ish]

And Linky told me that she worked with listening. They'd be repeating. Stop, bro. She just told me. Somebody listen to she.

[Joe Budden]

People listen to this.

[Ish]

Stop doing that. Don't make. Don't hide. Don't hyper. Focus on me.

[Flip]

Yo, this don't. I gotta be in the Matrix.

[Ish]

I can do to people, but I don't like it done to me. And when it's done, that makes sense. The ramifications is different. Look my man here. Look. He lit new outfit me my different. I gotta get out the crib. I gotta walk with gambit. I don't want no problems. She coming in attitude. I don't get no food. I'm not nah. I'm not with that.

[Joe Budden]

I heard what.

[Flip]

That is crazy.

[Ish]

And them at her job be repeating them little dumb.

[Joe Budden]

I don't like that they got my boy under pressure.

[Ish]

Yo, it's up. It's not good.

[Joe Budden]

Jokes. Flip be making y.

[Ish]

But Joe, you do it worse. I never elude to Joe. I made jokes about one thing.

[Joe Budden]

No one listen. But. But my God don't play by me. A month and a half later my baby made some beans.

[Flip]

All right.

[Joe Budden]

See my God don't play that yellow rice was hit.

[Flip]

All right.

[Joe Budden]

My baby beans is my baby. Beans is way better than my baby. For real.

[Flip]

Wait, that's bad to say.

[Joe Budden]

No, my favorite beans is the best beans.

[Parks]

That's right.

[Joe Budden]

My favorite blacks with that blacks. I meant that black soul up in it. Let's play with my baby. Y' all make everything horrible. It's a nutcase. I don't have nothing else to say. I don't.

[Ish]

At the chill carnival around the corner.

[Joe Budden]

She cares. She cares.

[Ish]

Wait. I'm going car.

[Joe Budden]

She cannot wait.

[Ish]

Leaky told why she going there? I'm going right with you. That's. That's your why is carnival Caribbean people response. I'm going too.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, you.

[Ish]

Huh?

[Joe Budden]

I'm not he Caribbean though.

[Flip]

He can get it off.

[Joe Budden]

I told my girl she could go and I ain't going to be hounding. I'm not going to be on the phone. I'm not doing. Don't share no location.

[Flip]

You don't have to. The P got you.

[Joe Budden]

I'm chilling. Yeah.

[Ish]

The PI gonna be out there with the ill outfit. Why would you. Why would you go Joe things and.

[Joe Budden]

Just going to be flip.

[Parks]

Flip.

[Ish]

You don't think it be. It's something that you.

[Joe Budden]

I'm going go. She asked me to go by. That's not my bag. I'm sure she wants me to go, but I want her to go by herself. Go with your people and have fun. Yeah. Joe.

[Ish]

I think you should. I think you should go with Shot at the carnival.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Flip]

Joe is going to be there.

[Ish]

He is. I'mma be there.

[Joe Budden]

I don't plan on.

[Flip]

He may not be there. No, he might not.

[Joe Budden]

I physically be there.

[Flip]

Buddy.

[Joe Budden]

There.

[Flip]

Yo.

[Ish]

You ever seen CSI Carnival scene Trinidadian Spa. I seen csi, Some devils.

[Flip]

Carnival Scene Investigations. My nigga.

[Joe Budden]

Nigga, you crazy, man.

[Ish]

Would you go to Carnival?

[Mal]

Mel, I've been to carnival.

[Ish]

I know, but would you go at this stage in your life?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Which carnival you went to?

[Joe Budden]

That little Mexican vid was looking a little stiff.

[Mal]

Carnival. What?

[Flip]

Trinidad, what you say? What you said.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, you seen that shit? She was so severe.

[Ish]

She almost tripped over herself.

[Joe Budden]

Why are you poking him? What the is wrong with this?

[Ish]

None of that. She be on bullshit when she out of town, boy.

[Joe Budden]

Then she gave him the backside. Mel, you a different person, El. In the front and the back. You know what you talking about?

[Mal]

I don't know what they're talking this past trip.

[Joe Budden]

No. Sit down.

[Ish]

You have fun, though.

[Mal]

I do be having fun, yes.

[Ish]

You took a picture with your friends and went like.

[Joe Budden]

Like this.

[Mal]

I said, what the hell wrong with. Sorry. I don't know. I got too much PRCO that day.

[Ish]

Yeah, so you flash the camera. I said, yo, this.

[Joe Budden]

I forgot about that.

[Ish]

I said, this lady's 50, yo.

[Mal]

I am not sorry. I am not 42. No age me yet, so.

[Ish]

I love you, Mel.

[Joe Budden]

Call your sisters. I hate this. I hate y' all up here. Y' all so stupid. Oh, my Lord. I'm done, Yo. Hey, Y. Me on my BLM. Best buys. 40 and up. 40 and up. Shout out to Chucky Booker. Hopefully you've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we enjoy delivering it to you. We ain't talking about up here today at all. Not a damn thing. Keep us in your prayer. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time, I bid you adieu. Farewell. Adios to Riva dirti. Hasta la vista, Arbois. So long. Goodbye. Or a simple head nod will suffice. Ego shivdil. Hey, I mean, catch a little bar very quick. Anybody enjoying their weekend out there, stay safe. Here you go. Ship do what? You are so goofy. So stupid. Yo, why is this girl so goofy?

[Mal]

Yo, I need a shoot, dude. This is hilarious.

[Joe Budden]

Everybody stay safe this weekend. Remember, August is moving fast. What? So your summer plans hit that bucket list, man, September be here before you know it. Hey, park star is white as hell. Park star look like when I be on the gram, them be in the ocean cutting up the starfish inside. Just be mad white and meaty. Hell squid thighs. Yeah. Tan in bed. No. What y' all doing this weekend? Anything? Anything, Anything, Anything. What's going on? What's going on?

[Ish]

Family?

[Flip]

No plans this weekend in the house?

[Joe Budden]

I'm allow my baby moms until I'm out of town. Hold it down.

[Flip]

You Petty.

[Joe Budden]

Smurf Y Petty. You Petty. Yo, Petty. Murphy. Oh, man. Hey. Hey. I just said August is moving fast. We can't waste it with our kids. I got in the streets. She did. And I'm bullshitting. Maybe I'll see how I feel tonight. You should have been given. Mel, what you want this weekend.

[Mal]

I'm gonna hit the spa and then movies. I'm gonna go see Whippins.

[Joe Budden]

All right. All right. Park. Parks. Parks.

[Parks]

I might go see Weapons as well. Other than that, I don't know.

[Ish]

Me, too.

[Parks]

I was thinking about going to see Clips again, but I don't know.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I thought about it. Where are they?

[Parks]

They're in Brooklyn tonight.

[Flip]

Brooklyn tonight?

[Joe Budden]

Okay. Okay. Go. Clips, man. Yeah, man. Salute. Word. Hey, till next time, man. Y' all hold it down. We'll be back same time, same place next week.

[Flip]

We'll fold that up right now. Don't look away now, pussy.